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Description
San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting June 19, 2012
Whole meeting 1 hour 25 minutes
A
C
B
E
B
Two
things:
the
first
is
the
standard
at
san
bruno
CA
gov.
The
agenda
packet,
which
includes
the
agenda
and
staff
reports,
is
available.
Just
go
to
the
community
development
section.
You
could
download
the
PDF.
Their
second
thing
is
the
Planning
Commission
received
an
email
from
a
citizen
about
concerns
over
drinking
in
the
downtown
area
and
the
am
in
the
a.m.
Hours
and
the
potential
for
fights
and
other
nuisance
type
activities
to
to
to
happen
down
there,
and
they
were
talking
about
the
parking
lot.
That's
in
back
of
big
Joe's
and
the
parking
lots.
B
B
Chief
telford
did
respond
to
the
citizens
complain
that
they
have
responded,
responded
in
writing,
saying
what
steps
have
been
taken
and
also
have
had
extra
patrols
and
go
out
there
and
take
a
look
to
see
if
there
are
those
type
of
nuisance
activities
happening
where
this
could
come
up
to
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
this
is
better
something
for
the
police
to
handle.
At
this
point,
the
law
allows
there's
two
bars
downtown
fall
into
two
categories.
B
The
first
categories
is
that
they're
grandfathered
in
and
they
did
not
go
through
a
use,
permit
process
so
40s
for
instances
in
within
this
ballpark
and
they
have
to
live
up
to
certain
performance
standards.
In
order
to
keep
this
non-conforming
grandfather
status
at
the
police
chief
deems
that
they're
no
longer
meeting
these
performance
standards,
a
hearing
would
be
set
and
they
would
come
back
to
you
for
a
decision
of
whether
or
not
they're
meeting
these
performance
standards.
In
this
case,
we
don't
even
know
if
the
complaints
are
driven
by
bar
patrons.
B
A
A
Seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
public
hearings.
Item
agenda
agenda
item
number
5a,
which
is
at
3850
money
away.
It
is
a
request
for
a
use
permit
to
allow
an
addition
which
increases
the
gross
flow
area
by
50%
61
percent
and
would
exceed
2,800
square
feet
of
living
area
with
a
two-car
garage,
/
sections,
12
230,
B,
1
and
12
200
aa3
of
the
San
Bruno
Municipal
Code
staff
report.
Please
thank.
F
You
and
good
evening
the
project
is
a
single-family
edition
and
the
Pacific
Heights
neighborhood.
The
existing
house
is
two
stories
with
an
attached
garage
the
applicant
is
proposing,
in
addition,
straight
back
on
both
floors
of
the
existing
home.
The
lot
size
is
quite
large
at
eight
thousand
three
hundred
eighty
nine
square
feet.
The
proposed
floor
area
is
3366
square
feet
which
results
in
a
point:
five
one
floor
area
ratio.
F
The
project
requires
a
use
permit
because
it
exceeds
the
fifty
percent
expansion
thresholds
and
also
proposes
to
over
2,800
square
feet
of
living
space
with
a
two-car
garage.
It
does
comply
with
all
the
other
development
standards
of
the
Municipal
Code
in
terms
of
design
staff
finds
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines.
The
existing
house,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
consists
mainly
of
houses
that
have
a
very
simple
building
form,
so
I'm
kind
of
a
simple
structure,
mostly
with
gable
roofs
that
run
parallel
to
the
street
and
not
very
steep
pitch
routes.
F
This
project
complements
that,
by
maintaining
the
front
elevation
of
the
house,
it
also
maintains
the
existing
height
of
only
18
feet
and
also
maintains
that
basic
massing
by
having
the
project
go
straight
back
to
the
rear.
All
of
the
exam
exterior
materials
would
match
the
exist
sting.
The
applicant
has
also
indicated
that
they
wish
to
reuse
some
of
the
existing
windows
for
cost
savings,
as
well
as
green
building
measures,
and
so
staff
would
suggest
that
we
allow
them
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
and
seeing
what
windows
could
still
be
usable.
F
Based
on
some
of
that
feedback,
we
received
at
the
Architectural
Review
Committee
about
Windows
staff,
sent
a
courtesy
notice
on
March
30th,
and
we
did
receive
one
phone
call.
A
neighbor
was
concerned
that
the
project
was
too
big
and
could
block
her
view.
However,
she
declined
to
meet
with
staff.
We
asked
if
she
would
like
to
meet
to
review
the
plans
and
see
if
we
could
mitigate
any
of
her
concerns.
She
indicated
that
she
wasn't
able
to
do
that,
but
did
want
her
concerns
reflected
into
the
record.
After
mailing
the
legal
notice.
F
F
Staff
has
applied
the
standard
conditions
of
approval
to
the
project,
but
I
would
like
to
point
out
one
unique
condition
and
that's
number
10.
The
lower
level
of
this
house
has
quite
a
bit
of
storage
area
and
that
storage
area
is
included
in
the
floor
area
calculation
as
prescribed
in
the
Municipal
Code.
G
G
G
H
Chair
with
that
condition,
10
and
you
you
included
shouldn't
we
maybe
have
an
asterisk
on
gross
floor
area
yeah.
So
if,
in
the
future,
someone
just
reading
the
chart
and
doesn't
read
all
the
conditions,
they
can
see
that
the
gross
floor
area
is
really
not
3366
and
not
what
your
kind
of
explaining
that's
not
really
not
really
3366.
F
F
H
F
A
I
My
name
is
Bob
bowls
I'm,
with
beausoleil,
architects
of
San,
Francisco,
745,
facts
and
avenue
san
francisco,
my
client
Bob
revis
is
there.
If
you
want
to
raise
your
hand,
he's
is
happy
to
talk
to
also
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
the
area
of
that
store
room
is
where
the
I
should
say
this,
the
storage
space
that
it
counts
as
a
potential
habitable
space,
it's
about
440
square
feet.
I
It's
got
a
high
enough
ceiling
that
potentially
sometime
in
the
future.
They
might
want
to
fix
it
up,
but
they
don't
have
any
different
plans
to
do
that
now.
So
it's
really
it's
just
there,
because
it's
there
that
the
lane
wasn't
shaped
that
way.
They
wouldn't
have
had
that
and
didn't
didn't
really
want
it.
So
the
owners
wanted
a
very
simple,
straightforward
project
so
and
that's
the
nature
of
the
house,
so
I
think
the
design
reflects
that
we
do
intend
to
make
it
as
as
green
as
we
can
within
economic
reason.
I
We
plan
to
put
a
pre
plummet
for
solar
water
heating
and
put
in
conduit
for
future
photovoltaics
and
reuse
as
many
windows
as
we
can,
but
in
the
minimal
looks
art
more
than
the
minimal
amount
of
insulation
and
so
forth,
but
basically
it's
just
a
very
simple
addition
to
the
house
that
will
help
them
with
their
family.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any.
A
Actually
have
a
couple,
my
questions
come
from
the
fact
that
I
own
a
house
with
the
same
floor
plan,
which
is
in
the
public
instruction,
so
02
issues
that
I
see
that
you
will
have
to
deal
with
and
it
may
cause
you
to
come
back
to
an
arc
review
meet
meeting.
One
of
them
is
the
the
roof,
the
dual
roof
you
have
in
the
back.
A
This
is
a
pre
tres,
yeah,
I,
sorry,
a
truss
roof
and
therefore
there
are
no
load
bearing
walls
interior
if
they're
all
exterior
walls
that
are
carrying
the
weight-
and
you
are
removing
a
portion
of
that
exterior
wall
which
would
need
to
be
hung
off
and
end
and
the
new
roofs
will
have
to
be
installed.
What
was
what
was
your
reasoning
behind
putting
two
smaller
pitched
roofs
in
the
back,
as
opposed
to
tearing
that
roof
of
heart
completely
and
redesigning
it.
I
Well
tearing
off
the
entire
roof,
including
the
existing
house,
we
didn't
think
that
was
something
we
wanted
to
spend
the
money
on
the
reason
for
the
dual
roof.
Is
we
just
like
the
looks
of
it
and
kept
the
profile
very
low,
but
I
think
we
can
put
a
beam
across
the
back
where
we
were
taking
out
the
wall.
That'll
support
the
old
dresses
and
the
new
rough,
both
without
affecting
the
structural
strength
of
the
trusses.
A
Yep
and
you'll
have
to
do
that.
The
beam
is
the
only
thing
that's
going
to
hold
it
up.
The
second
issue
I
have
is
that
retaining
wall?
It's
not
really
an
issue,
it's
just
a
concern
that
I
have
for
you,
the
retaining
wall
that
it's
between
the
storage
room
and
the
and
the
crawl
space.
There's
a
wall
that
exists
there
already
or
they're
physically
posts
right
now.
Are
you
planning
on
building
that
into
a
retaining
wall?
What'swhat's
the
intent
this.
I
A
I
A
A
D
D
A
A
This
is
a
request
for
use
permit
to
allow,
in
addition,
which
increases
the
cross
flow
area
by
fifty
percent
and
a
minor
minor
modification
to
include
a
eight-foot
street
side
setback.
We're
ten
feet
is
required
for
sections
12
230
B,
1
and
12
1
2010,
a
of
the
San
Bernardino
cipal
code
staff
report.
Please
thank.
J
You
and
good
evening,
as
stated,
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
use
permit
and
minor
modification
to
add
onto
an
existing
single-family
dwelling.
Decide
itself
is
located
on
the
northeast
corner
of
acacia
avenue,
santa
lucia
avenue
and
is
currently
developed
with
a
one-story
single-family
dwelling
consisting
of
730
square
feet
of
living
area
and
a
345
square
foot.
One
car
garage,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
first
and
second
storey
expansion.
The
first
floor
will
contain
one
family
room
steady
in
one
bathroom.
The
second
floor
will
contain
two
bedrooms
in
one
bathroom
in
total.
J
This
would
amount
to
a
four
bedroom
home
with
two
bathrooms
and
a
steady
consisting
of
1823
square
feet
of
living
area
and
a
one-car
garage
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
applicant
is
converting
a
small
portion
of
the
garage
into
a
hallway
to
create
the
required
required
internal
circulation
between
the
existing
single-family
dwelling
and
the
proposed
expansion
at
the
made
10th
architects
review
committee.
Several
commissioners
expressed
concern
with
the
existing
internal
circulation
and
felt
that
the
floor
plan
could
easily
be
converted
to
a
second
dwelling
unit.
J
Now
the
commissioners
were
primarily
concerned
that
the
current
property
owner
would
convert
it,
but
what
was
definitely
more
concerned
that
a
future
property
owner
may
see
the
layout
and
may
convert
that
to
a
second
unit.
Staff
has
added
two
conditions
of
approval:
I'd
like
to
point
your
attention
to
conditions
of
approval,
number
six
and
number
seven
condition
of
approval
number
six
is
our
standard
condition
that
we
include
on
all
single-family
homes,
and
it
reads
that
the
residents
shall
be
used
only
as
a
single-family
residential
dwelling
unit.
J
No
portion
of
the
resident
residents
shall
be
rented
out
as
a
secondary
residential
devonian.
Any
attempt
to
construct
an
illegal
dwelling
unit
will
result
in
code
enforcement
action
by
the
city
and
we've
also
included
condition
of
approval
number
seven,
which
is
a
custom
condition
strictly
for
this
application
and
record
states
that
a
deed
restriction
shall
be
recorded
against
the
property
prior
to
building
permit
final,
the
deed
restriction
shall
prohibit
the
conversion
of
any
portion
of
the
home
into
a
separate
living
unit
without
first
obtaining
planning,
division
or
approval.
J
J
The
architectural
review
committee
also
recommended
that
the
applicant
incorporate
wood
window
trim
throughout
the
home
and
include
a
green
building
statement
describing
the
green
building
measures
that
they
plan
to
incorporate
during
the
construction
phase
of
the
project
the
applicant
has
since
followed
up
with
those
recommendations.
The
applicant
also
has
made
some
very
minor
recommended
changes
to
the
plan.
Since
the
architectural
review
committee
meeting,
specifically,
they
say,
made
some
minor
window.
J
Changes
to
the
second
floor
plan
made
some
minor
adjustments
to
the
floor
plan
on
the
second
floor
as
well
and
increase
the
ceiling
height
from
eight
feet
to
90
staff
did
send
a
courtesy
notice
to
all
adjacent
property
owners
and
the
required
public
notice
to
all
property
owners
within
300
feet
of
the
site.
We
did
receive
one
email
from
a
concerned
property
owner
directly
across
the
street.
They
were
more
concerned
with
the
second
floor
expansion
and
felt
that
the
second
floor
expansion
could
potentially
block
a
morning
sunlight
that
I
currently
enjoy.
J
They
asked
staff
if
a
shadow
study
would
be
required
for
this
application
staff
responded
and
stated
that
a
shadow
step
shadow
study
typically
would
not
be
required.
Given
the
fact
that
the
second
story
expansion
is
meeting
all
setback
requirements,
it's
less
than
the
28
foot
height
limit,
it's
coming
in
at
23
feet
and
it's
meeting
the
daylight
plane
requirements
or
criteria
outlined
in
residential
design
guidelines.
J
Overall
staff
finds
that
the
addition
is
consistent
with
the
existing
single-family
dwelling
and
the
residential
design
guidelines.
The
second
floor
is
set
back
from
the
first
story
below
which
is
a
common
facade,
articulation
technique
outline
of
the
residential
design
guidelines.
Additionally,
as
previously
stated,
the
second
floor
expansion
will
be
meeting
the
daylight
playing
criteria
outlined
in
the
guidelines
as
well.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
existing
single-family
home
does
have
substandard
setbacks.
J
The
front
setback
currently
measures
11
feet,
7
inches
where
15
feet
is
required
and
the
street
side
setback
varies
from
five
feet
to
8
feet.
This
is
a
common
design
feature
within
the
neighborhood
and
is
present
on
many
homes.
Within
that
specific
major,
there
are
a
lot
of
substandard
setbacks.
As
stated,
the
African
is
applying
for
a
minor
modification
to
expand
the
first
floor
directly
north
of
the
garage,
and
this
would
continue
the
8-foot
non-conforming
setback
staff
is
in
support
of
this
expansion.
J
It
is
consistent
with
the
existing
single-family
home
and
the
development
standards
within
the
neighborhood.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
addition
meets
all
other
development
standards
of
the
zoning
district
overall
staff
is
supportive
of
the
use,
permit
and
minor
modification
requests
and
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved
the
project
based
on
findings.
Effect
1
through
9
and
conditions
of
approval
1
through
25
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
Thank
you
any.
H
J
Is
it
is,
but
this
the
commissioners
were
concerned
about
future
property
owners
if
they
looked
at
the
floor
plan
and
the
way
was
laid
out,
they
felt
that
potentially
this
could
be
converted
to
a
second
dwelling
unit.
So
essentially,
what
this
does
is
put
future
property
owners
on
notice
and
they
because
it
will
be
recorded
against
the
property.
They'll
know
for
a
fact
that
it
can't
be
a
second
dwelling
unit
unless
they
receive
Planning
Commission
approval,
I.
H
Think
we're
kind
of
singling
out
for
I
mean
we
should
do
this.
This
bigger
condition
on
every
project
I
mean
that's
just
one
more
problem
on
a
point
of
sale,
I
just
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary
gets
in
our
codes
in
our
regulations.
It's
in
our
I
mean
everybody
who
buys
a
house
should
know
that
they
can't
rent
out.
H
You
know,
use
a
part
of
their
house
as
a
second
everything
and
I
think
unless,
where
you
have
a
findings
of
approval
because
of
a
certain
layout
of
this
house
in
the
easy
access
for
a
second
unit,
I
mean
I
think
we're
just
kind
of
I,
don't
like
it
myself,
I
just
unless
we
do
it
with
everybody.
I,
don't
like
it
with
this
way,
I
understand
why
you're
doing
it,
yeah
I
I'm,
not
saying
I
disagree
with
it.
I
just
I
think
we're
being
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
wort
word
is.
I
B
I
think
the
middle
ground
is
something
that
you
you
touched
on
is
that
we
haven't
recommended
this
before,
but
it
is,
there
are
certain
plant
floor
plans
that
lend
themselves
to
potential
buyers
that
are
saying:
hey.
Let's
set
up
a
second
unit.
I
see
this.
This
floor
plan
would
work
well
with
the
second
unit.
So
I
think
if
we
do
apply
this
condition
of
approval
in
the
future,
we
should
apply
it
to
projects
that
also
have
similar
floor
plans
and
then
incorporate
that
language
within
the
findings.
B
That
way,
we
do
have
some
nexus
and
we're
not
just
saying
you
know
this
one.
You
know
to
winning
this
condition
on,
but
it
is
something
that
has
to
be
applied
consistently,
and
then
this
could
be
a
starting
point,
but
I
do
agree.
Some
type
of
language
should
be
added
to
the
findings
of
approval
so
that
down
the
line
we
make
sure
working
and
with
other
applications
or
similar
floor
plans.
H
H
See
and
I
can't
speak
for
a
fact,
but
upon
transfer
or
sale
this
house
like
it's
the
way
the
lenders
are
these
days
when
they're
looking
at
everything.
If
they
see
a
deep
restriction
on
here
that
you're
going
to
open
your
gonna
open
up
a
can
of
worms,
for
you
know
I'm
10
years
from
now.
If
they
try
to
sell
the
house,
and
the
new
lender
says-
and
why
is
this
house
I've
deeds
restricted
I've?
H
Just
I
don't
want
to
make
it
look
like
if
they
go
refinance
to
acid
there's
an
issue,
an
issue
here:
yeah
you
put
things
in
deeds
these
days
and
everything's
I
don't
want
to
make
third
third
life
miserable
later
I'm.
Just
trying,
though
I
think
verbiage
in
the
findings
of
fact
in
the
findings
could
help
out
Madero
same
through.
A
C
That's
out
of
the
range
it
it
does
have
to
have
some
level
of
hardship
or
some
level
of
issues
that
would
make
that
decision,
and
in
this
case,
unless
there's
some
historical
issue
and
some
background
findings
I
find
that
this
particular
time
to
have
maybe
a
an
ad
hoc
committee
or
something
to
take
a
look
and
to
say
this
is
some
of
those
going
to
be
moving
forward.
I
think
that
to
start
off
with
someone
and
to
have
something
on
record
of
this
sort,
it
I
feel
good,
a
bit
stringent
and
so
I.
C
I
would
agree.
I
would
agree
that
putting
it
on
a
deed
of
trust,
it's
just
another
level
and
I
think
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
it's
part
of
a
planning.
Commission
decision,
I
believe
that
it
requires
another
I
think
that
it
requires
them.
Some
future
discussion
and
at
least
from
my
point
of
view
before
it
comes
to
making
a
decision
of
this
nature.
K
J
J
H
C
Through
the
chair
Russia,
my
other
comment
was:
if
there
is
a
concern
in
this
particular
property,
is
there
something
within
the
layout
or
within
the
development
of
this
project
that
might
need
to
have
attention
two
min
to
minimize
the
size
so
much,
but
asked
to
take
a
look
at
this
disease
or
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
to
restructure
the
drawing?
So
it
doesn't
have
that
potential
of
a
future
concern.
J
Do
have
to
street
trees
that
played
into
the
design
of
the
proposal
before
us
tonight,
so
they
are
limited
and
they
have
to
the
only
way
to
really
create
that
internal
circulation
is
to
convert
a
portion
of
the
garage
into
a
hallway
space
to
connect
the
existing
single-family
home.
With
the
proposed
addition
given
site
constraints,
an
extreme
measure
would
be
to
completely
relocate
the
location
of
the
garage.
However,
that
would
be
a
huge
expense
and
we
would
lose
a
street
treat
which
the
city
doesn't
like
to
do.
J
D
J
H
So
Tara
is
actually
I'm
going
to
look
at
this
here.
Kind
of
a
question
came
up.
I
work
today
on
another
house,
enosis
garage
besides
the
garage
door
has
no
other
act
exit
is
that
it
does
a
garage
need
a
secondary
exit.
I,
don't
that's
a
question.
I,
don't
know
there
was
another
house
and
different
whole
city
that
issue
yeah.
B
B
B
H
A
A
K
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
thanks
for
spending
the
time
to
review
the
project,
my
name
is
Jason
Chen,
the
architect
of
the
project,
and
he
is
the
owner.
Mr.
wall
and
I
think
met
the
painting
department
staff,
pretty
pretty
well
explained
the
project
and
I
don't
want
to
repeat
the
same
thing
again.
I
think
he
already
explained.
Why
are
we
putting
a
hallway
that
connect
with
a
new
edition
from
the
existing
building?
K
Because
the
limit
of
the
narrow
law
and
also
the
garage
in
the
middle
between
two
big
trees
and
then
the
car
cut,
will
be
relocating
the
garage?
Then
we
had
to
cut
down
the
big
tree
on
the
sidewalk
and
then
we
had
to
redo
the
curl
cut
again.
So
that's
why
we
keep
the
old
garage,
and
rather
they
go
around
the
back
of
the
garage
to
the
new
addition,
and
this
is
a
small
home
and
then
it's
only
730
1
square
feet,
and
then
they
have
a
to
go
up
kit.
K
A
K
We
don't
mind,
there's
no
intention
of
the
owner
to
create
secondary
unit.
You
know
and
as
I
said
earlier,
they
you
have
to
blow
up
kit
and
husband
and
wife,
and
then
they
want
a
bigger
house
and
then
they
want
to
stay
there
for
a
long
time,
and
so
they
don't
mind
if
the
city
feel
comfortable,
they
have
that
deep
help
them
design.
You
don't
mind
decided,
but
I
think
that
the
pending
Cole
have
the
title
for
single
family
unit
already.
K
K
A
A
C
B
If
it
weren't
for
the
Architectural
Review
Committee's
discussion
at
the
previous
meeting,
we
probably
wouldn't
have
included
it
I
think.
If
we
do
want
to
include
it,
we
should
include
it
consistently
going
forward
and
not
just
have
this
be
a
one
time
thing.
I
spoke
to
the
city
attorney
about
this.
When
we
first
drafted
the
conditions
of
approval,
he
said
some
cities
do.
This
is
pretty
/.
He
used
to
work
for
the
city
of
belmont.
That
was
something
that
the
city
of
belmont
did
quite
often
when
they
were
concerned
about
the
potential
for
conversion.
B
It
hasn't
been
our
practice
to
include
this.
So
if
the
Planning
Commission
is
comfortable
not
including
this-
and
you
know
just
letting
our
normal
zoning
laws
take
effect
on
our
known
normal
building
code
laws
take
effect,
I
think
we'd,
be
you
know,
the
staff
would
be
comfortable
eliminating
that
condition,
but
if
we
do
choose
to
put
it
in,
let's
do
it
consistently.
From
now
on
my.
C
Concern
is
that,
if
we
were
to
make
this
decision
is
leaving
without
some
some
discussion
or
some
new
research
on
it,
it
would
not
just
would
lead
to.
My
point
of
view
doesn't
feel
like
it
would
be
doing
my
best
thought
with
us
thinking
on
this.
So
my
my
point
of
view
is
that
I'd
like
to
eliminate
it
from
from
the
best
condition
through.
D
C
A
A
A
F
You,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
has
applied
for
a
use
permit
to
operate
a
weekly
farmers
market
in
the
parking
lot
at
the
shops
at
san
fran.
It's
a
somewhat
unusual
application
process,
so
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
background.
As
you
recall,
Pam
Fran
is
located
in
a
plan
development
zoning
district,
which
has
site
specific
requirements,
the
exact
type
and
location
of
retail
uses
are
not
really
specified
within
that
plan
development.
F
So,
since
this
is
an
outdoor
sales
use,
that's
not
specifically
permitted
in
those
words
in
the
PD
I'm
staff
determined
that
a
use
permit
or
temporary
use
permit
would
be
required.
So
the
first
step
was
bringing
it
forward
to
the
City
Council
to
confirm
that
the
use
is
consistent
with
the
overall
plan
development.
The
City
Council
did
make
this
determination
on
april
twenty.
Fourth,
and
at
that
time
they
also
requested
two
conditions
of
approval,
which
I'll
discuss
just
a
little
bit
later.
F
The
next
step
in
the
approval
process
was
that
we
staff
reviewed
the
application
as
we
normally
would.
We
routed
it
to
all
the
reviewing
departments,
including
engineering
fire
and
the
police
department.
Then
the
community
development
director
approved
a
temporary
use
permit,
subject
to
the
conditions
from
all
of
those
departments
and
temporary
use
permits
by
the
Community
Development.
Director
are
good
for
up
to
three
months,
so
the
market
has
been
operating
every
Sunday
since
May
twentieth
under
that
temporary
use
permit.
F
K
C
B
I
mean
there's
two
I
mean
there's
the
yeah
when
there's
a
direct
financial
gain,
yes
and
there's
an
obvious
conflict
and
then
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
that
has
to
do
with
perception.
You
know:
does
the
public
think
that
there
could
be
something
that
makes
you
vote
a
certain
way
so
that
that's
another
thing?
It's
just
the
perceived
conflict
of
interest
as
well.
I
think
this
using.
K
F
F
The
location
is
in
the
parking
lot
and
you
can
see
it
in
the
exhibit
see
to
your
staff
report
the
it's
basically
north
of
the
main
entrance,
so
that
made
entrance
that
people
go
into
that's
across
from
the
crossing
and
that's
generally
in
front
of
ulta
is
where
the
farmers
market
is
held
and
it's
up
against
the
El
Camino
Real
side.
The
market
is
approximately
located
on
70
parking
spaces
and,
as
you
can
see
there
in
the
exhibit
it
covers
to
drive
aisles.
F
The
market
area
is
separated
with
barriers
and
cones
from
the
internal
driveway
and
from
the
adjacent
parking
area.
There's
also
a
pedestrian
buffer
area
that
separates
the
market
area
from
the
main
drive
aisle.
So
this
creates
an
area
for
some
visibility
and
improved
pedestrian
safety,
as
people
are
moving
from
the
market
area
to
the
parking
or
to
the
mall
area.
F
Also,
a
Pacific
Coast
farmers,
market
staff
member
is
on
site
each
Sunday.
They
oversee
the
circulation
and
the
safety
aspects
of
it
and
make
sure
that
those
pedestrian
and
circulation
measures
are
effective
because
some
of
them
may
need
to
be
improved
or
updated
as
the
market
really
grows
and
is
successful
at
that
location.
F
It's
also
worthwhile
to
note
that
the
market
is
proposed
to
end
before
the
holiday
shopping
season
and,
as
you
know,
planners
and
engineers
evaluate
peak
parking
in
the
shopping
mall
such
as
this
really
during
the
holiday
season,
and
this
market
will
be
over
before
the
peak
shopping
season
begins.
So
we
do
not
anticipate
a
parking
issue
that
will
I'm
stretch
into
the
peak
season
and
I'd
like
to
review
a
key,
a
couple
of
key
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project.
F
First,
with
a
condition:
number
10
and
11,
the
applicant
is
responsible
for
trash
recycling
and
all
of
the
cleanup
of
the
site.
So
it's
strictly
their
obligation
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
trash
that
overflows
in
the
mall
or
into
the
public
right
away
condition
number
30.
If
there
were
to
be
any
impact
on
traffic
or
circulation
in
the
future,
the
community
development
director
or
Police
Department
could
require
additional
signage
to
help
people
in
their
circulation
and
getting
around
the
mall
and
from
the
street
and
conditions
of
approval.
F
So
that's
some
of
the
other
conditions
of
approval
approval
are
fairly
standard
for
any
kind
of
special
event
or
outdoor
event,
and
that
would
happen
within
the
community.
Since
the
market
started
operating
on
May
twentieth,
we
have
not
received
any
concerns
or
questions
from
any
members
of
the
public,
from
any
residents
or
from
any
city
departments.
So
no
issues
have
come
up
since
the
market
started
operating,
so
staff
does
recommend.
Approval
of
these
permits,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
staff
report
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I.
D
A
F
A
You
were
giving
you
a
report,
you
said,
or
so
just
wanted
to
clarify.
The
second
item
I
have
is
there's
a
requirement,
for
I
mean
for
about
17
and
18.
First
one
requires
a
ad
a
parking
area
of
at
least
two
van
accessible
spaces
from
the
exhibit
it
doesn't
seem
like.
There's
a
van
accessible
space
van
accessible
ad,
a
space
shown
on
the
exhibit.
Is
this
requirement
for
in
the
vicinity
of,
or
is
there
a
limit
as
how
far
this
this
van
accessible
space
is
supposed
to
be
you're.
F
Correct
it's
not
on
the
site
plan
after
the
site
plan
was
generated
and
we
talked
with
the
building
official
about
having
those
tube
and
accessible
spaces.
They
need
to
be
in
that
immediate
vicinity.
So
what
we
recommended
is
that
they
reduce
the
number
of
a
da
parking
spaces
and
stripe
out
the
van
accessible
area
or
otherwise
block
it
out
to
provide
that
immediately.
Adjacent
and.
L
A
A
K
A
E
E
A
L
My
name
is
alan
moyer
I
am
the
assistant
director,
the
Pacific
Coast
Farmers
Market
Association.
We
are
located
at
50,
60
commercial
circle
in
concord,
california.
We
are
partners
with
the
San
Bruno
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
shops
at
tanforan
mall
and
serve
as
the
farmers
market
operator.
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
chamber
or
the
shops
at
camp
friend
in
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
for
your
support
and
the
staff
support
in
giving
us
the
temporary
use
permit
and
allowing
us
to
open
in
May.
The
market
has
been
successful.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
growing
to
do.
The
original
application
stated
the
potential
for
50
vendors.
We
have
been
over
the
past
several
weeks,
averaging
more
20
to
25,
so
we
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
really
create
the
market,
that's
of
the
size
and
scale
and
quality
that
this
community
deserves
and
we're
working
hard
at
that
there
are
two
of
the
conditional
use
to
the
conditions
that
I
just
would
like
to
ask
the
Planning
Commission's
there's
some
opportunity
for
flexibility.
L
That's
number
18
and
19
number
18
of
to
a
DA
restrooms
we
rent
portables
that
are
delivered
on-site.
Then
they
are
serviced,
on-site
and
removed.
Given
the
fact
that
we
are
about
half
capacity.
Currently,
we
were
hoping
for
the
flexibility
to
have
only
one
restroom,
with
a
180,
a
restroom,
with
an
ad
a
sink
available
until
the
market
reached
the
size
where
there
was
the
demand
for
a
second
that
would
give
us
the
savings
of
several
hundred
dollars
a
week
that
we
could
invest
into
additional
marketing
for
the
farmers
market.
L
Secondly,
number
19
in
terms
of
the
placement
of
the
fire
extinguishers.
It
makes
the
statement
of
mounted
to
a
fixed
location
as
everything
that
we
do
is
temporary.
We
have
we
put
up
temporary
chance
for
the
day.
We
would
prefer
not
to
a
fix
something
to
tanforan
property.
They
would
probably
prefer
that
also.
There
was
also
be
no
way
for
us
to
guarantee
six,
since
we
were
only
there
for
seven
hours
per
week,
so
we
would
hope
for
some
flexibility
to
perhaps
have
those
in
a
visible
location.
L
We
set
up
a
farmers
market
information
booth
each
week.
It
is
our
practice
that
that
is
where
the
market
managers
doors
his
or
her
equipment,
and
that
we
could
have
a
fire
extinguisher
available
there
and
visible,
and
if
there
is
perhaps
another
place
within
the
market
that
you
felt
appropriate.
It's
just
like
that.
The
terminology
of
a
fixed
location
is
concerning
to
us
because
we
were
unclear
as
to
how
we
could
effectively
implement
that
on
a
regular
basis
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Here's.
D
A
chair
question
I'd
like
to
ask
staff
what
what
do
you
think
the
fire
department
was
looking
for?
It
looks
to
me
like
they're,
just
looking
for
three
fire
extinguishers
around
the
area
in
a
position
that
can't
readily
be
changed
unless,
unless
it's
purposefully
done,
is
this
something
it
can
be
worked
out
behind
the
scenes?
Yeah.
B
I
think
the
term
fix
doesn't
really
doesn't
mean
a
fix
to
the
ground
like
it.
What
I
think
it
means
is
a
consistent
location
that
they
that
people
know
where
they're
at
every
single
time
there
at
the
market
and
won't
have
to
search
search
form
if
the
fire
does
break
out.
So
what
we
could
do
you
know
both
18
and
19
are
things
that
are
really
at
the
you
know.
B
There
is
add,
you
know
it's
a
ad,
a
restroom
shall
we
present
on
site
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
building
official
and
then
on
the
fixed
pole,
just
say
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
fire
marshal
that
way
we
could
work
it
out
and
I
do
think
that
could
be
reasonable
if
there's
less
booths
and
there's
a
less
demand
for
the
poor
bathrooms
and
that's
something
that
we
could
work
out
with
the
building.
Okay,
that's.
B
L
I
that
would
give
us
thank
you.
Flexibility
and
I'm.
Also
of
the
restroom
requirement,
is
something
so
part
of
health
codes.
It
also
gives
us
the
flexibility
if
there
should
be
a
change
in
the
enforcement
by
the
health
department.
It
also
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
be
responsive
to
them,
which
we
appreciate
very.
D
L
D
E
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
not
being
the
applicant
I
have
not
received
the
full
all
the
restrictions
and
conditions
that
are
put
I've,
never
seen
the
document
I'm
a
little
alarmed
that
this
evening,
I'm
hearing
that
number
30
says
that
if
future
impacts
arise
on
traffic,
the
planning
director
and
the
police
chief
may
impose
additional
signage.
That's
something
I
should
be
aware
of
and
be
able
to
assess
and
discuss
with
ownership
before
it
is
enacted.
E
There
are
other
restrictions
or
demands
that
are
being
put
on
the
shopping
center.
That
I
need
to
discuss
as
well.
I
believe
that
there's
a
there's
a
demand
for
directional
wayfinding
traffic
for
the
JC
Penney
and
target
garage
structure
on
the
other
side
of
the
property.
I
also
believe
that
there
is
a
demand
for
a
crosswalk
at
the
barnes
and
noble
location
across
to
the
main
entrance.
These
are
large
and
impactful
requests
of
the
property
owner
not
having
been
an
applicant
I
haven't
had
the
benefit
of
reading
the
documents.
E
A
E
I'm,
relatively
new
to
the
property
I've
been
here
a
year
and
a
half
I've
had
the
fortune
of
working
with
their
on
a
number
of
issues
and
opening
the
doors
to
public
relations
and
working
with
the
community,
which
is
something
I
find
very
dear
to
my
heart
I'm,
a
former
planning
Commissioner
former
chair.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
I
know
it's
difficult
been
there
done
that.
I'm,
a
former
mayor
to
term
council
member
of
City
millbrae
I've,
been
in
shopping
centre
management
for
30
years.
E
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
sometimes
considered
a
competitor
or
an
adversary
with
a
shopping
center
when
it
couldn't
be
less
true.
We
promote
business
activities,
my
marketing
directors,
on
the
board.
We
want
Sam
gunner
to
be
successful
and
when
San
Bruno
knocks
on
our
door,
which
is
what
happened
in
this
situation,
we
opened
it
well
when
we
opened
it,
we
let
a
few
things
fly
in
with
the
friendly.
E
Let's
help
you
out
presentation
that
the
chamber
brought
to
us,
they
needed
the
visibility
of
our
property
for
the
farmers
market,
no
problem
thrilled
to
be
hosting
it.
It's
a
wonderful
community
program
doesn't
hurt
us
a
bit
it's
on
sleepy
sunday
mornings.
There
are
no
issues,
it's
a
non-issue!
It's
a
joy
well
before
2009.
I
believe
it
was.
There
were
some
previous
discussions
with
ownership
and
the
city
relative
to
peak
dak
traffic
periods
and
parking
ratios
relative
to
the
planned
development
project.
E
I
understand
these
discussions
are
still
ongoing
and
some
of
the
issues
are
yet
to
be
resolved.
One
of
those
issues
is
the
wayfinding
signage,
that's
being
required
by
the
city
or
imposed
upon
the
ownership,
but
totally
unrelated
to
the
farmers
market.
It's
an
issue,
9
years
old
relative
to
a
separate
discussion
which
is
still
ongoing
and
is
in
the
process
of
moving
forward.
That
argument
should
stay
with
that
argument.
I
don't
have
the
authority
to
spend
money
on
signage
and
I,
don't
know
if
that's
an
appropriate
request,
because
it's
crossing
over
issues.
E
It's
a
hangover
issue,
I
guess
it's
time,
I,
to
put
it
as
right
as
it
relates
to
the
crosswalk
I
need
to
go
back
into
my
recollections
of
how
this
property
was
developed
was
a
planned
development.
The
city
was
intimately
involved
in
the
development
of
this
facility
were
partners,
we
are
symbiotic
and
we
benefit
from
each
other.
E
So
to
just
say,
oh
by
the
way,
let's
put
a
cross
walk
over
there,
you
are
veteran
planning
directors.
You
know
that
you
can't
just
place
I
walk
without
understanding
its
impacts,
its
costs,
how
it
can
be
negative
to
traffic
I
mean
they're
up.
There
are
issues
that
aren't
being
addressed
and
there's
just
this
demand.
E
I
can
tell
you,
I,
went
out
and
had
it
assessed
for
cost
and
feasibility
and,
if
you've
been
to
that,
intersection
is
not
only
catawampus
from
the
direct
cross
road,
but
it
goes
from
a
sidewalk
that
would
require
a
truncated,
dome
and
and
and
and
ramp
set
in
to
an
existing
concrete
curb
that
is
not
a
DA
accessible
and
it
would
require
sloping
back
16v
on
either
side
on
the
ultra
side
and
the
front
entrance
side.
So
you
could
ramp
directly
properly
and
conforms
with
a
DA
to
the
truncated
dome
ramp.
E
Then
you
cross
the
street
and
the
stop
sign
that
is
there.
The
stop
bar
would
have
to
be
moved
back
about
four
feet,
because
it's
too
close
to
the
to
the
actual
exit,
Road
itself
and
we'd
have
to
make
an
adjustment
for
the
path
of
travel.
The
path
of
travel
would
go
into
a
curved
planter.
That's
rather
large
has
not
only
a
hydrant
but
a
PG&E
vault
stop
sign.
E
Sprinklers
I'd
have
to
completely
renovate
that
I'd
have
to
dig
it
out,
put
in
ramp's,
put
in
a
pathway
that
I'm
having
difficulty
understanding
could
potentially
be
non-compliant.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
actually
make
that
walkway
through
that
planter
ad
a
compliant.
It
might
require
an
ad
a
variance
it's
not
as
simple
as
striping
the
pavement.
D
E
E
D
What
you're
saying
is
that
your
proposed
resolution
is
to
at
least
temporarily,
if
not
permanently,
put
the
signage
and
cross
work
crosswalk
provisions
aside,
so
that
this
can
go
forward
at
least
for
now,
and
then,
if
the
city
finds
it
to
be
of
such
importance
that
it
has
to
come
back,
it
can
always
be
brought
back.
I
have.
E
No
problem
with
that,
but
in
the
meantime,
I'll
be
putting
my
ducks
in
a
row
as
well,
because
it's
also
possibility
we
could
lose
a
parking
stall.
When
you
have
to
come,
look
at
the
location
Aaron,
we
could
lose
a
Parkin
stuff.
We
lose
a
parking
stall
or
further
down
the
road
and
negativity
on
the
parking
ratio
issue.
We
can't
let
a
stall
go
because
that
has
monetary
value
not
far
and
beyond
the
cost
of
a
crosswalk,
a
DA
or
otherwise.
E
If
we
can
go
with
the
flow
on
that
see
how
it
develops
see
if
it
grows
to
50,
if
you
guys
want
to
move
it
over
to
sears
I'll,
go
to
sears
myself
on
your,
be
have
and
make
a
case
and
I'll
be
happy
to
start
that
process
now,
but
we
don't
own
that
property.
So,
given
the
time
constraints
we
had
you
put
you
on
ours.
Yeah.
E
M
B
When
we
have
that
initial
meeting,
I'll
first
touch
on
the
directional
signage
since
2007,
the
tanforan
shopping
center
has
been
operating
without
the
required
number
of
spaces
several
years
ago,
and
this
is
because
of
a
DA
improvements
that
they
had
to
make
to
the
target
level
garage
that
knocked
out
about
200
parking
spaces,
or
so
so
it
took
them
down
from
the
required
to
have
four
and
a
half
spaces
per
1,000.
It
took
him
down
to
a
ratio
of
about
4.3.
They
started
to
go
through
a
parking
amendment
process
several
years
ago.
B
It
actually
went
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
was
scheduled
for
the
City
Council.
The
direction
at
both
the
Planning
Commission
at
the
city
council
meeting
was
fine
with
lower
parking
requirement.
However,
there
are
highly
impacted
areas
within
tanforan
mall
and
we
like
to
see
some
directional
signage
to
get
people
to
the
areas
of
the
mall
that
have
vacant
parking
spaces
and
obviously,
if
anyone
bins
tube
into
the
mall,
the
most
highly
impact
or
the
area
outside
of
bjs
in
the
area.
B
Volta
and
the
least
impacted
areas
are
the
JC
Penney's
parking
deck
in
the
target
garage
now,
I
think
the
City
Council
and
Planning
Commission
at
that
time.
This
was
years
ago
before
a
lot
of
people
worked
out
the
way
that
the
drive
within
the
mall
had
a
more
staff
to.
We
had
the
idea
of
having
a
more
comprehensive
parking
signage
program
to
direct
people
to
various
a
various
areas
of
the
mall
with
the
city
council
directed
at
this
last.
One
is
simply
one
sign.
B
This
sign
would
as
you,
because
you
make
a
right
out
of
the
main
entrance
and
you're
you're
headed
south
in
the
parking
lot
past
bjs,
but
simply
have
a
sign
that
points
people
there's
additional
parking
in
the
target
garage
as
well
as
the
JC
Penney's
garage.
So
it's
not
a
huge
deal
in
terms
of
the
number
of
signs.
B
The
reason
this
is
placed
on
this
is
because
we
have
a
situation
where
you're
taking
up
parking
spaces
and
you're
already
below
what
the
legal,
even
though
there
may
not
be
the
man
still
with
the
legal
parking
requirement,
is
for
this
zone
so
that
that
is
the
reason
behind
this
and
why
this
condition
is
placed
there.
What
the
general
manager
is
correct,
even
at
the
farmers
market,
weren't
going
to
happen.
B
This
is
this
would
be
a
requirement
that's
placed
on
this
when
we
eventually
do
call
up
the
parking
exception,
application
for
final
approval
to
the
city
council
meeting,
which
will
happen
within
the
next
three
months
or
so
so.
This
is
something
that's
going
to
be
on
this,
but
this
will
be
a
requirement.
You
know,
regardless
of
the
farmers
market
or
no
farmers
market.
However,
since
this
is
taking
up
additional
parking
spaces,
we
had
to
place
it
within
these
conditions
of
approval
regarding
the
crosswalk.
B
The
reason
why
the
crosswalk
applicative
requirement
is
here
is
simply
there
the
believe,
the
council
member,
as
well
as
staff,
noticed
that
this
would
draw
extra
pedestrian
activity
to
a
certain
area.
That
said,
we're
not
dead
set
on
the
crosswalk
I
think
what
we
could
do
is,
even
though
that
was
the
City
Council's
direction
and
they
may
end
up
requiring
that
what
we're
happy
to
do
is
sit
down
with
sit
down
with
with
tanforan,
as
well
as
our
engineering
staff
to
see
if
there
is
another
way
that
we
could
work
around.
B
B
B
Is
strong
direction
from
four
years
now
in
a
strong
direction
from
the
City
Council
at
the
city
council
meeting
where
this
was
this
was
heard
and
the
City
Council
was
making
the
determination
whether
or
not
a
use
like
this
was
consistent
with
the
mall
zoning
and
their
determination
was
part
of
the
mall.
Zoning
is
a
parking
requirement:
they're,
not
they're,
not
there
parking
requirement
isn't
being
men
at
this
point.
So
in
order
for
there
to
be
consistency,
directional
signage
should
be
put
in
pointing
people
towards
the
least
impacted
areas
of
them
all.
Okay,.
M
So
but
the
general
manager
of
the
mall
has
stated
that
she
was
not
in
receipt
of
I,
guess
the
whole
tire
packed
with
all
the
conditions
of
approval.
That
was
what
I
understood
correct.
So
I,
don't
really
know.
Why
not
to
me
it
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense,
but
it
is
what
it
is
didn't
get
it.
She
didn't
get
it,
but
that's
not
it's
not
good.
To
have
to
come
to
your
meeting.
You
have
something
you're
right,
all
of
a
sudden
you're
looking
at
a
cost,
because
you
could
very
well
vidya
cost
these.
B
Specific
areas,
though,
have
been
discussed
before
we
sent
an
email
with
the
specific
locations
circled
showing
what
the
condition
sheet.
We
did
the
error,
though,
in
the
fact
that
we
should
have
sent
the
final
packet
to
the
property
owner
as
well,
and
they
may
have
been
sent
to
the
property
owner
not
to
the
general
manager.
It's.
M
Art
of
impossible
Oh
is
there
some
way
that
even
tonight,
if
we
wanted
to
in
the
event
that,
as
as
it
stands
right
now,
let
us
say
that
it
was.
You
know,
voted
down
or
let's
say
that
it's
voted
in,
but
it
doesn't
meet
with
you
know.
The
out
of
the
mall
with
their
requirements
are
I
mean.
Is
there
some
way
to
you
know
for
a
month
continue
for
the
you
know,
farmers
market
until
these
issues
can
be
resolved,
I
mean
or
is
it
and
here
tonight
where
it's
either
going
to
be?
B
Have
an
approval
for
three
months,
beginning
May
twentieth
with
the
temporary
use
permit,
so
they
actually
had
there's
a
little
bit
of
buffer
time
in
there.
Would
it
be
we
wouldn't
yank
the
temporary
use
permit.
It
would
just
be
something
that
beyond
August
twentieth,
one
of
the
allowed
to
operate
so.
D
B
The
idea
was
that
we
were
going
to
do
it
as
a
temporary
use
permit
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
see
how
things
worked
out
and
then
address
the
long-standing
parking
issues
as
part
of
the
use
permit.
That
goes
forward
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
as
well
as
the
parking
exception
application
that
would
ultimately
go
to
the
City
Council.
So
the
idea
was
we
wanted.
We
didn't
wanted
to
lay
the
start
of
the
farmers
market
we'd.
Let
it
operate
as
it
is
right
now
and
then
for
the
long-standing
one.
D
B
G
B
D
I've
been
out
there
in
slow
times
and
busy
times,
Christmas,
Thanksgiving
and
right
now,
for
that
matter
and
I've
never
had
any
trouble.
Finding
parking
I
might
have
to
walk
a
little
bit,
but
there's
miraculous
number
of
open
spaces
even
on
the
the
most
busy
Christmas
shopping
day,
so
I'm
having
trouble
with
the
with
them
with
having
to
have
more
parking
there.
D
D
G
E
G
D
E
G
G
E
E
E
G
Because
my
thought
is,
you
know
that
portion
of
the
parking
lot
has
been
used
for
this
type
of
activity
before
it's
not
ideally
located,
I
mean
in
a
retail
sense.
What
you've
picked
out
is
ideal
for
congesting
people
in
a
retail
environment
where
they
can
go
shopping
to
go
to.
You
know
farmers
market,
but
we've
had
that
kind
of
usage
on
that
property.
Before
on
a
it's
a
lot,
less
traffic,
there's
a
lot
less
vehicle
flow,
there's
more
parking
over
there.
I.
K
E
Did
the
best
thing
we
put
you
on
our
property
in
here?
We
set
this
particular
project.
Has
some
specific
differences
as
it
relates
to
other
functions
that
have
occurred
on
these
sites?
The
carnival's,
the
the
pumpkin
patches,
the
Christmas
tree
lot,
other
proposed
uses
which
shall
remain
nameless
for
the
time
being,
but
those
are
tenants.
Their
pain
is
rent.
We
get
money,
we
get
commissions,
we
don't
get
anything
for
farmers
market.
J
E
M
Through
the
chair
Fisher
an
indirect
way,
though,
you
may
be
making
money
off
by
virtue
of
the
more
people
that
attend
the
farmers
market.
Hopefully
they
will
then
in
turn,
get
their
goods
and
then
decide.
Hey
I
need
a
t-shirt
whatever
I
do
hanging
go
to
one
of
the
stores.
So
there
is
that
indirect
hard
to
put
a
figure
on,
hopefully
you're,
making
some
money
off
the
farmers
market.
Maybe
not,
it
might
be
very
difficult
to
trace,
but
probably
all
you
know
more
likely,
there
is
a
trickle-down
theory
in
effect,
or
I
would
think
you're.
M
E
Well,
there's
two
things:
yes,
it
is
a
regional
shopping
center.
It
is
what
it
is.
It
exists.
Therefore,
it
is
that's
its
function,
however,
the
parking
lot
at
the
hours
of
the
farmers
market
only
right
now
only
has
a
two-hour
overlay
on
Sunday,
so
I
mean
it's
not
like
we're
open
the
whole
time
that
the
farmers
market
is
their
favor.
G
D
M
A
A
B
Wanted
to
give
you
a
development
update,
update
cedar
mills,
which
is
the
development
of
14
single-family
homes
by
lennar,
on
the
corner
of
pepper
and
cedars.
Doing
really
well
at
last
count
they
already
they're,
not
all
constructed
yet,
but
they've
already
sold
11
of
the
14
Homes
and
the
last
few
moments
they
figured
we're
going
to
sell
out
within
a
couple
weeks,
so
I
mean
I
think
what
they
just
shows
is.
There
was
actually
load
there's
a
lot
of
low
inventory
out
there
and
developers
haven't
developed
anything
in
the
last
four
years.
B
Treetops
is
going
along
well
I'm,
still
on
pace
to
first
occupancy
in
August
and
complete
the
project
by
june
july
of
next
year,
and
I
think
everyone
knows
the
rental
market
is
doing
really
well
as
well
so
they're,
you
know,
they're
excited
about
opening
and
trying
to
open
as
quickly
as
possible
in
order
to
still
hit
the
hot
or
rental
market.
That's
it.
Thank.
B
H
A
H
To
make
a
official
I
know,
I
talked
to
Aaron
earlier
about
the
food
trucks
on
el
camino,
and
maybe
the
staff
can
do
a
whatever
you
do
to
see
the
zoning
on
it
and
laws
on
in
regulation
on
I've
been
asked
by
a
few
residents
who
see
why
they
why
they
can
do
it?
And
you
know
the
restaurants
can't
do
other
things,
and
so
I
give
it
some
paperwork
that
I
looked
up
and
just
maybe
you
bring
it
back
or
if
any
I
don't
even
know,
far
or
jurisdiction,
but
yeah.
B
That
the
question
is,
as
you
know,
there's
taco
trucks
and
other
mobile
food
vendors
that
are
located
in
san
bruno
as
well
as
all
over
the
Bay
Area.
Now
you
know
they've
they've
grown
in
a
number
over
the
last
year
or
two.
The
question
is:
is
how
I
think
the
overall
philosophical
question
is:
why
are
there
parking
requirements?
B
K
I
think
it's
mike's
mike's,
auto
sales
I've
just
got
a
couple
of
signs
up
on
his
fence.
That
say
if
you
park
anything
there
that
blocks
the
view
of
the
lot
you
will
be
towed,
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
those
up
and
another
and
another
one.
If
I
think
is
in
the
city
code
about
not
parking.
If
you
have
a
for
sale
sign
on
your
vehicle
in
front
of
it,
but
in
any
case
I
think
the
staff
should
take
a
look
at
that.
Make
sure
that
it's
legit.
A
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
we
receive
the
indicators
for
sustainable,
sustainable,
San,
Mateo,
County
booklet
today
and
those
of
you
who
want
to
check
it
out
at
home.
The
website
is
www
org
and
you
can
get
the
same
package
at
home
as
well.
She
want
to
speak
about
this
anything
in
particular
the
peaks
your
interest,
I.