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San Bruno City Council Meeting May 11, 2010 10c. Cable TV Rates
A
B
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
council
annually,
the
City
Council
reviews
the
rates
and
services
of
san
bruno
municipal
cable.
To
consider
any
amendments
you
have
before
you,
the
staff
report,
which
details
my
presentation
and
I'll
be
providing
you
with
highlights
and
staffs
recommendation
for
your
consideration
over
the
past
two
years.
As
shown
in
table
2
of
your
report,
substantial
increases
in
programming
costs
have
occurred.
These
are
the
fees
that
san
bruno
pays
to
various
programmers
that
make
up
thirty
eight
percent
of
our
cable
budget.
B
Almost
every
channel
we
offer
charges
a
fee
for
carriage
and
an
aggregate.
These
charges
have
increased
over
twenty
two
percent.
In
the
past
years
last
year,
the
City
Council
adopted
a
rate
increase
of
eight
and
a
half
percent
which
offset
some
of
those
programming
fees
are
not
enough
to
capture
all
of
last
year's
increases
and
the
capital
expenditures
necessary
to
run
a
viable
business.
San
berdo
cable
is
a
member
of
the
national
cable
television
cooperative,
which
strives
to
negotiate
the
lowest
rates
on
our
behalf.
B
For
majority
of
our
channels,
some
programmers
that
we
pay
directly
require
individual
contracts,
and
while
we
have
dropped
some
channels
due
to
contract
pricing
disputes,
in
many
cases,
we
have
successfully
have
been
successful
in
negotiating
the
lowest
fees
possible.
Despite
these
efforts,
programming
costs
continue
to
gradually
increase
over
the
course
of
the
various
contract
terms,
and
sometimes
more
dramatically,
as
in
the
case
of
Comcast
SportsNet,
creating
a
basis
for
our
rate
increase
for
video
services.
As
shown
in
table
one
of
your
report,
a
14-point
86
increase
for
video
services
is
proposed.
B
This
video
service
increases
necessary
to
fully
cover
our
actual
increases
in
programming
costs
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
two
years.
It
should
be
noted
that
there
will
not
be
any
Anchoress
increase
on
the
limited
basic
service.
Those
are
the
channels
from
1
through
26.
There
were
also
any
increase
on
the
internet
service
as
well.
B
During
the
past
year,
San
Bruno
basic
cable
rates
have
continued
to
be
priced
under
Comcast
by
about
twenty-five
percent,
as
determined
by
the
annual
rate
survey,
which
is
provided
as
attachment
to
in
your
report.
After
the
proposed
rate
increases
implemented,
San
Bruno's
cable
rate
will
still
be
about
%
hello
Comcast
rates
at
this
time,
although
Comcast
generally
has
a
rate
increase
later
in
the
year.
B
The
annual
comparison
to
satellite
and
AT&T
services
provided
as
an
attachment
five
of
your
report
indicates
that
San
Bruno
cables,
video
packages
and
rates
remain
comparable
to
other
local
video
service
providers.
Sanburne.
Ok,
ball
has
led
the
way
in
the
Bay
Area
by
offering
a
complete
digital
cable
system
before
the
other
cable
providers
in
surrounding
markets.
We've
upgraded
our
internet
service
to
be
able
to
offer
100
megabits
per
second
downloads.
In
2010-11
this
new
internet
service,
utilizes
docsis,
three
technology
and
channel
bonding.
B
What's
channel
bonding,
ok
I'll
explain
a
little
bit
about
what
docsis
three
is
because
I
throw
these
terms
out,
sometimes
and
see
confused
faces.
Doctors
3
is
a
technology
that
has
advanced
for
internet
delivery
and
it's
a
different
modem
than
the
one
most
of
you
have
already
all
of
our
subscribers
have,
and
it
is,
has
the
ability
of
delivering
more
bandwidth
to
the
subscriber.
It's
done
two
ways.
B
Currently,
we
use
one
channel
on
our
system
for
the
download
of
data
in
the
future,
we'll
be
able
to
use
four
channels
and
we'll
bond
them
together
and
this
new
device
that
stocks,
just
three
modem
that
will
employ,
will
be
able
to
pick
the
frequencies
of
those
channels
and
download
more
information.
It's
just
a
bigger
pipe,
so
they'll
be
able
to
download
more
information.
We
have
that
technology
and
we'll
be
implementing
it
in
the
2010-11
on
offering
those
services,
while
initial
growth
might
be
slow
for
those
services,
utilize
mainly
by
tech,
savvy
users.
B
All
industry
indicators
point
to
this
service
as
a
future
model
for
delivering
and
viewing
video
services,
as
provided
in
table
3
of
your
report.
Four
levels
of
services,
ranging
from
20
megabits
per
second
to
100
megabits
per
second
download
and
rates,
ranging
from
87
point
95
to
100
$49.95,
are
proposed.
B
We
are
using
our
existing
fiber
plant
and
extending
new
fiber
to
business
complexes
to
offer
commercial
services.
As
you
are
all
aware,
we
currently
provide
phone
and
dedicated
internet
service
to
the
city
of
San,
Bruno
and
dedicated
internet
access
to
the
San
Bruno
Park
School
District.
We
completed
installation
of
the
infrastructure
for
delivery
of
commercial
services
to
our
local
business
community
during
the
past
year
and
we'll
be
expanding,
dedicated
internet
internet
access
and
business
phone
services
to
the
greater
business
community.
B
Here
in
San
Bruno,
a
comprehensive
list
of
proposed
commercial
services
and
rates
are
also
provided
in
table,
4
and
5
of
your
staff
report.
These
additional
offerings
to
commercial
businesses
will
enhance
our
viability,
delivered,
cost
savings
to
local
businesses
and
eliminate
the
cable
fun
deficit
over
the
next
five
years,
as
shown
in
the
business
plan
attachment
for
of
your
staff
report.
B
The
cable
sub
committee
met
on
april
9th
2010
to
review
the
proposed
service
and
rates
and
recommended
approval.
If
approved,
the
rate
increase
and
proposed
new
service
rates
would
take
effect
on
July,
first
2010
and
as
required
by
law.
A
30-day
rate
increased
notice
will
be
delivered
will
deliver
that
in
the
June
bills
the
rate
increase
information
will
also
be
posted
on
our
website
and
on
channel
one.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
Take
city
manager,
I
will
take
questions,
questions
of.
C
Through
the
chair,
yes,
I
had
initially
some
concerns
about
how
the
how
the
rate
increase
was
was
being
applied
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
large
capital
investment
that
was
specifically
for
bringing
on
commercial
customers
and
ensuring
the
viability
of
the
company
and
I
believe
that
it
has
been
properly
allocated.
The
costs
have
been
properly
allocated
so
that
the
consumers
are
not
going
to
see
a
big
increase
because
of
that
investment,
and
unfortunately,
we
have
very
little
control
over
what
we
pay
for
the
services
that
we
that
we
supply
to
the
customers.
C
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
the
efforts
that
that
the
staff
is
made
to
keep
those
costs
down,
and
it
hasn't
been
easy
and
I
know
that
it
is
a
difficult
job
that
it
is
hard
for
people
to
justify
having
to
pay
more
for
television.
But
I
do
want
to
anyone
who's
watching
or
listening
to
know
that
it
isn't,
because
we
haven't
tried
to
keep
those
prices
down
in,
and
it
does
seem
that
you
know
it's
an
expensive
business.
I
was
happy
to
see
just
just
another
side
comment.
C
D
Your
left
door
open
with
the
you
know,
with
the
five
with
the
nine
point,
seven
percent
increase
and
so
I'd
like
to
hear
why
it
would
be
advantageous
for
us
to
go
with
the
proposed
14.8
six
increase
over
just
a
you
know,
the
nine
point
seven
percent
increase
I
know
it
includes
the
deficit
reduction,
but
then
I
mean
we
have
the
all
these
grand
ideas
of
that
the
commercial
component
is
going
to.
You
know,
bring
us
out
of
that.
But
I
know
it's
only
a
couple
dollars.
It's
just
it's
just
under
three
dollars
of
difference.
B
There's
there's
two
I'll
have
never
responds
to
that,
so
that
there's
two
issues
one
the
9.7,
as
you
correctly
stated-
will
not
cover
any
of
the
debt
reduction.
It
is
strictly
for
programming
costs
and
fees
only
so
it's
out
there
because
it's
an
option,
but
it's
not
a
recommended
alternative
to
councilman
Salazar's
comment
regarding
the
the
deficit
and
the
spending
that
was
done
for
commercial
services.
Those
current
services
was
a
small
part
of
that
project.
B
D
E
Again,
we've
provided
you
with
an
option,
because
we
recognize
that
the
over
fourteen
percent
increase
is
a
very
significant
amount.
Would
simply
remind
the
council
that
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
in
a
deficit
position
and
really
in
many
respects,
struggling
struggling
to
cover
the
operating
costs
in
the
programming
cost
increases,
is
that
the
rate
increase
that
occurred
last
year
was
maintained
at
an
amount
of
eight
and
a
half
percent,
where
the
original
recommendation
for
full
cost
recovery
was
at
a
higher
mound.
E
As
a
result,
the
bottom
line
the
deficit
got
bigger
and
again
this
year
at
nine
point
six
seven
percent.
We
would
essentially
break
even
on
costs
on
a
year
for
year
basis,
but
not
progress
in
the
direction
that
we
believe
has
been
historically
the
council's
interest.
So
we
recommend
the
14.8
six
percent
and
you
really
have
an
option,
not
just
at
the
nine
point,
six
seven
percent,
but
we
thought
it
was
desirable
to
give
you
at
least
some
perspective
about
what
an
ultimate,
what
an
alternative
rate
amount
would
look
like.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
say
we
look
a
few
years
ahead
and
commercial
is
just
doing.
Gangbusters
I
mean
we're
so
on
phone
service.
To
you
know
public
agencies
all
around
us,
and
you
know-
and
you
know
it's
it's
really
paying
off.
How
does
that
affect
our
customer
rates?
How
would
hell
would
that
event?
Would
that
potentially
keep
them
keep
them
down,
or
is
it
always
going
to
be
based
on?
You
know
the
the
channels,
the
you
know,
the
those
increases
well.
B
We
know
the
programming
fees
are
going
to
most
likely
go
up,
continue
to
go
up
and
that
cost
with
more
or
less
be
borne
by
our
subscribers
or
video
subscribers
who
are
paying
for
that
service.
However,
commercial
services,
if
they
were
to
take
off
in
the
manner
that
you're
saying
that
they
would
take
off-
and
we
certainly
hope
they
do-
there-
would
be
a
cost
savings
for
for
our
for
customers.
E
B
E
E
Complicated
but
you
see
at
the
top
of
the
page,
total
costs
for
the
various
components
of
our
service
delivery,
including
the
commercial
services
and
down
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
page
projections
over
a
five-year
period.
Five
year
period
that
show
the
deficit
gradually
being
resolved
through
a
combination
of
video
side,
internet
and
commercial
services
rates.
A
D
D
E
First
of
all,
this
is
a
comparison
that
the
city
council
asked
for
last
year.
We
correct
provided
a
means
of
comparing
what,
in
some
cases
really
amounts
to
apples
and
oranges
as
opposed
to
apples
and
apples,
but
we've
done
about
as
well
as
we
can
and
what
you
see
is:
there's
a
variation
in
this
table
about
the
quantity
of
channels
and
the
variety
of
services
that
are
provided.
So
you
know,
I
guess
you
can.
E
The
way
we
compare
when
we
look
at
comcast
or
another
cable
service
provider,
you're
comparing
to
different
technology
and
as
the
table
indicates,
you
have
a
variety
of
different
costs
and
charges
and
contractual
obligations
associated
with
many
of
those
types
of
service,
DirecTV
DirecTV
and
the
dish.
For
example,
I'm.
F
Probably
one
of
the
ones
that
has
the
biggest
worry
and
concern
as
far
as
the
cable
everything
else
in
here,
I'm
comfortable,
with
with
the
exception
of
the
cable
rates.
At
this
moment,
I'm
just
speaking
out
loud
giving
my
piece
it's
just.
We
have
lost
customers
as
far
as
capable
I'm,
not
saying
that
because
I
want
to
you
know
them
see
me
on
TV
more,
but
but
in
reality
over
you
know,
last
year
I'd
say:
we've
lost
hundreds,
not
one
or
two.
It
happened
before
I
was
driving
to
them.
F
F
It
really
didn't
know
much
about
san
bruno
cable,
what
it
had
to
offer
plus
I
had
eighteen
t
where
I,
where
I
moved
from
as
far
as
the
internet
and
as
far
as
phone,
so
it
was
just
kind
of
a
package
deal,
and
even
he
went
with
that,
though,
probably
as
he
told
me
as
I
was
leaving
a
you
know,
there's
a
better
package
out
there.
Maybe
I
would,
I
would
think
about
it,
always
want
to
save
it
save
a
buck.
F
My
concern
is:
is
that
people
that
leave
for
other
services
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
get
them
back.
I,
remember
the
fact
or
figured
it
was
given
of
what
really
it
cost
when
you
lose
a
subscriber
because
having
to
go
out
there
and
earn
it,
and
what
the
true
cost
is
that
annually,
and
it
was
quite
staggering
to
me
and
I-
don't
know
if
you
remember
what
that
was
or
is,
but
it's
a
high
number
we
and
we've
lost
hundreds,
and
I
can
tell
you
when
I
walked
the
streets
in
2005.
F
There
were
not
so
many
dishes,
they
were
not
so
many
other
providers.
18
teen
was
not
amongst
us
and
this
last
go-round.
If,
though,
I
walked
very
little
or
only
to
certain
areas,
the
dishes
have
just
tripled,
and
it's
obvious
by
the
amount
of
folks
that
we've
lost
and
I
understand
that
we
provide
a
great
service.
I.
F
Think
service
is
critical
because
to
me,
even
if
you're
at
the
same
level
of
your
competitors,
but
if
you
offer
a
service
level
and
an
opportunity
in
which
they
have
your
problems,
fixed
and
people
respond
in
a
timely
fashion.
People
are
willing
to
pay
equal
because
it's
local
and
it
provides
a
better
quality
service.
That
has
still
been
a
concern
to
me
because
we
are
taking
on
so
much
new
technology.
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
the
ability
to
keep
up
with
these
times.
F
F
Why
aren't
we
looking
at
a
11.7
or
12
to
meet
the
objective
of
covering
costs,
meet
the
objective
of
some
deficit
reduction,
which
I'm
a
little
confused,
because
when
council
members
sellers
are
asked,
the
rate
payers
are
not
paying
for
the
deficit?
The
answer
was
that's
correct,
but
then
the
way
it's
being
said
again,
it
sounds
like
they
are
so
I'd
like
to
get
clarity
on
that
and
why
aren't
we
going
somewhere
in
the
middle
I?
Just
think
it
just
gets
more
challenging
for
folks
and
I
can
just
tell
you
garbage.
F
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
places
to
shop,
there's
one
place
in
town
and
it's
a
requirement
by
the
municipal
code.
As
we
were
told
every
seven
days,
it's
got
to
be
picked
up
here,
it's
a
whole
different
animal.
They
have
options.
There
are
a
lot
of
options
and
they're
going
to
those
options
and
I
understand
the
potential
for
the
commercial
is
great
and
hopeful,
but
it's
it's
unchartered
and
I.
F
B
B
We
have
another
company,
that's
also
very
serious-
about
not
only
internet
access
platform,
these
approvals
here
to
determine
whether
we
can
go
ahead
with
that
we've
already
given
them.
What
we
think
are
the
rates
that
are
going
to
be
for
that
service
and
they're
very
interested,
so
we've
already
done
some
of
that
homework
and
some
of
that
marketing,
just
as
a
test
to
get
to
get
out
there.
We
are
expanding
our
fiber
optic
network,
as
I
said,
before
we're
expanding
it
to
several
buildings
in
Bay
Hill
that
are
not
served
yet
by
san
bern.
B
E
Know
I
would
just
echo,
but
the
staff
saying
the
businesses
that
we're
talking
to
and
have
actually
come
to
us
when
staff
indicates
word
of
mouth
there
will.
That
is.
That
is
not
what
we're
relying
on
totally,
but
we
have
found
that,
in
fact,
the
business
set
is
connected
as
in
a
multi
business.
Tenant
building
word
spreads
fast
in
this
being
a
very
cost-effective
option
with
a
high
level
of
service
for
our
business
customers
is,
is
a
new
opportunity
that
we
think
is
going
to
take
off
in
a
very
productive
manner.
C
To
clarify
what
my
person
and
why
I
was
satisfied
with
the
answer,
my
concern
was
that
there
were
portions
of
the
capital
investment
that
were
specifically
dedicated
toward
commercial
and
I,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
costs
weren't
being
tacked
on
to
the
residential
side
of
it,
and
that
was
taken
into
account.
So
that's
why
I
was
satisfied
with
the
answer.
Getting
back
to
the
deficit
reduction,
the
we
did
make
a
major
investment
in
plant
and
I'm
wondering
on
a
going-forward
basis.
Is
this
something
we're
going
to
see
again
in
a
few
years?
B
We
have
to
continue
to
purchase,
you
know
the
set-top
boxes
as
demand
warrants
it.
Those
expenditures
are
accounted
for
and
we're
hoping
that
we
are
not
going
to
add
to
the
deficit
in
the
next
few
years.
We're
trying
to
pay
it
down.
That's
the
whole
point
of
this
rate
increase
and
the
point
of
our
operating
budget,
and
so
that's
that's
our
intention.
Okay,.
E
So
we
we
are
confident
that
the
plant
is
now
situated
for
the
near
to
long-term
future
for
the
deployment
of
the
services
and
the
recovery.
Is
the
staff
has
indicated
of
the
amounts
that
were
not
available
on
reserve
and
we're
necessarily
expended
in
order
to
situate
the
company
to
keep
up
with
the
demands
of
the
future.
C
And
I
know
that
industry-wide
the
trend
is
that
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
away
from
from
cable
television
and
we
have
seen
significant
rises
in
internet
subscribers,
so
we're
making
it
up.
On
that
side,
we've
made
the
investment
on
the
video
side
and
and
I
noticed
that
there
are
some
price
truckers
here
for
the
new
higher
speed
internet
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
requirement
on
the
internet
site
to
make
investments.
B
The
services
that
we're
offering
that
we're
going
to
be
offering
in
the
near
future
no
we've
made
those
we've
made
those
improvements.
We
have
that
equipment,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
do
any
other
infrastructure
improvements
at
this
time.
For
that
we'll
be
able
to
offer
that
level
of
service
that
I
talked
about
earlier
starting
july.
One
okay,.
D
What
did
the
one
of
the
water
rate
go
up
to
and
and
gas
and
all
everything
else
that
just
keeps
going
up
and
insurance
rates
and
everything
so
I
mean
I,
know
one
side
of
me
says
it's
good
business
sense
get
that
deficit
down
then
again,
I'm.
Looking
at
the
projections,
it's
still
going
to
take
five
to
six
years.
You
know
to
pay
that
down
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
versus
you
know
nothing
this
year.
D
If
I
can
can
convince
me
that
there's
going
to
be
just
a
nominal
increase
next
year,
I
know
there's
always
going
to
be
an
increase.
You
know,
but
are
we
looking
at
another
five
dollar
increase?
Are
we
looking
more
like
at
a
dollar
increase
or
two
dollar
increase
yeah?
Those
are
the
things
that
I.
You
know
that
would
get
me
to
say
all
right.
You
know,
but
I'm,
just
really,
you
know
and
I
realize
a
99
percent
increase.
It's
only
a
three
dollar
increase
versus
you
know
it's
a
three
dollar
difference.
A
B
F
Too
Jarren
I'm
having
my
and
again
it's
just
what
the
rates
and
I
worry
about.
The
future
I
would
say
to
that.
I
would
be
interesting.
I
would
be
interested
to
know
the
rates
go
up
on
July
1,
I'm
sure
they
will,
if
there's
a
tracking
mechanism
that
can
be
used
to
see
truly
what
effect
this
action
would
have
on
the
subscription
rate
on
the
subscribers.
We
know
we
lose
it
sometimes
with
certain
programming.
Obviously
we
don't
get
them
back,
they
go
elsewhere
and
it's
hard
to
get
them
back.
F
I'm
also
wondering
you're
talking
about
going
to
a
door-to-door
campaign,
but
if
we
thought
of
asking
those
that
maybe
have
left
us,
those
are
still
with
us.
Whether
you
can
I
want,
may
be
called
a
focus
group
come
together
and
get
some
feedback.
What
you
want
from
pay
per
views
for
their
time
or
phone
survey
or
whatever
it
is,
but
I'm
wondering
how
do
we
basically
reach
out
and
tap
into
what
is
good
about
us?
F
What
we
can
improve
about
us
how
it
can
provide
a
better
service
that
will
have
our
subscribers
retain
with
us
as
well
as
win
back
other
I,
understand
we're
going
to
do
this
campaign.
But
let
me
tell
you,
you
know:
they've
already
been
out
there
knocking
door-to-door,
and
you
know
what
what
they're
doing
to
try
to
win
over
customers
and
they're,
succeeding
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
can
compete
and
and
I
wonder
even
going
further
down
the
road.
B
You,
as
you
mentioned,
we
are
addressing
the
subscriber
losses
by
the
campaign,
the
door-to-door
campaign
which
we
hoping
to
start
this
year,
but
it
didn't
come
to
fruition
and
we
need
to
do
that
and
to
the
point
of
a
focus
group.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
I
did
some
surveys
with
SurveyMonkey.
It's
called
program
that
I
was
able
to
put
out
and
get
some
feedback
from
people
on
what
they
liked
about
Sam
oeun,
okay,
but
what
they
didn't
like.
B
B
One
of
the
issues
with
the
competition
is
that
they're,
taking
subscribers
from
the
largest
market
share
in
this
area
us
so
their
offer
can
be
really
good
at
least
up
front.
They
make
these
these
folks
make
you
sign
a
two-year
contract,
so
they
make
their
money
back
over
that
period
of
time,
and
it's
tough
to
get
those
customers
back,
because
it's
difficult
to
change
unless
you
have
an
offer
that
is,
is
is
substantially
better.
That's
what
this
campaign
upcoming
campaign
will
do
for
us
we'll
be
able
to
give
them
a
very
good
offer.
B
F
E
A
B
F
I've
known
you
and
I
have
faith
and
the
work
that
you
do
in
the
department
when
I
asked
you
very
honestly
in
forthright
and
bluntly,
do
you
feel
that
the
recommendation
from
staff
and
I
course
is
because
this
comes
from
you,
but
I
want
to
hear
from
you
as
to
why
it
should
be
at
the
14
plus
percent?
Not
12,
not
9.7.
I
want
to
hear
from
you
when
your
expertise,
you've
been
there
a
long
time.
You've
done
a
good
job
in
my
opinion,
and
so
I
want
to
hear
from
you.
B
Well,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
staff
and
the
subcommittee-
and
in
previous
meetings
we
wrestled
with
this
quite
a
bit.
It's
a
it's.
A
large
increase,
we're
aware
of
that,
but
we
have
the
deficit
that
we
have
to
address
and
so
from
a
business
perspective.
Again,
you
know
that's
something
we
we
need
to
address.
If
we,
if
we
keep
ignoring
it,
it's
not
going
to
go
away.
I.
B
Think
that
any
rate
increase
that
we've
done
it
done
some
analysis
on
rate
increases
in
the
past
and
we've
we've
taken
a
one
percent
or
so
hit
just
on
rate
increases
in
the
past.
I
think
this
rate
increase
will
will
take
a
larger
hit.
I
think
we'll
take
close
to
two
or
three
percent.
It
is
a
larger
increase.
B
C
A
And
as
I
said
in
the
subcommittee,
we
wrestled
with
this
for
quite
a
while
I
guess.
The
bottom
line
for
me
was-
and
maybe
I
make
it
too
simple,
as
if
you're
going
to
lose
some
people
because
of
a
rate
increase,
are
you
going
to
lose
him
because
of
fourteen
percent
or
twelve
percent
or
nine
percent
people
say
rate
increase,
I'm
out
of
here
or
I'm
sticking
around
I?
Don't
think
the
percentage
that
two
percent
here
they're
really
makes
really
makes
a
difference.
B
A
D
And
I'm
I'm
struggling
with
it,
but
I'm
going
to
go
with
it.
It's
it's
a
recovery
and
and
I'm
just
going
to
be
hard
pressed
to
to
vote
for
something
as
as
large
as
the
five
dollar
increase
any
you
know
any
time
in
the
future,
but
I
realized
what
what
this
organization
has
gone
through
in
the
last.
You
know
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
I'm
we've
made
good
sense
in
this
in
this
organization
and.
D
As
much
as
the
vice
mayor
might
think
that
you
know
we
we
are
losing,
but
we've
got
a
lot.
We've
got
a
lot
of
satisfied
customers.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
that
would
probably
be
a
major
up
or
if
we
even
considered
putting
it
up
what
you
yeah
in
your
terms,
putting
it
up
I
think
it's
a
value
that
it
is
a
municipal
run.
You
know
organizations
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
vote
for
the
increase.
The
recommendation.