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Description
San Bruno City Council Meeting May 5, 2011
10c. Lions Field Synthetic Grass Project
C
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council,
my
name
is
Will
Anderson
I'm,
a
staff
engineer
in
the
public
services
department
and
I
will
be
making
the
presentation
regarding
updating
the
lines
field.
Synthetic
turf
project
as
far
as
the
status
of
the
project,
as
well
as
the
funding
Randy
Schwartz
Community
Services
Director,
will
be
assisting
me
in
addressing
some
of
the
funding
aspects
of
this
project.
C
Basically,
this
project
is
going
to
replace
the
existing
natural
turf,
that's
currently
out
on
the
field
with
a
synthetic
turf
system.
By
doing
so,
we
will
be
able
to
increase
the
use
of
the
field
primarily
during
the
winter
months,
and
we
can
also
reduce
City
maintenance
costs
for
the
field,
primarily
through
a
reduction
in
irrigation
water,
as
well
as
a
reduction
in
labor
efforts
by
city
staff.
C
Well
so
far,
the
project
was
brought
forth
to
council
for
inclusion
in
the
capital
improvements
program
that
was
back
in
April
of
2010,
and
we,
you
know,
brought
forth
the
design
contract
for
our
consultant
ver
de
design
in
November
of
2010,
which
was
approved
by
council.
Since
that
time
the
design
has
been
underway
and
we've
actually
had
several
public
meetings
to
gain
input.
As
far
as
the
layout
of
the
field
and
the
amenities
within
we
did
host
a
while.
C
They
also
did
a
preliminary
assessment
of
the
drainage
site
drainage
and
they
have
determined
it
is
feasible.
I
can
share
details
with
you
about
that
during
the
question-and-answer
period.
Other
items
that
are
part
of
the
pre
design
that
city
staff
is
accounted
accounting
for
are
the
environmental
documents
we
are.
C
They
are
currently
under
preparation
and
we
are
I,
guess,
there's
a
portion
of
the
right-field
that
currently
crosses
into
school
district
property
and
we
are
under
preparation
with
the
school
district,
preparing
a
right
away,
license
agreement
and
the
superintendent
of
schools
has
expressed
interest
in
the
preparation
of
this
license
agreement.
So
we
will
continue
to
move
forward
as
far
as
construction.
The
overall
time
period
is
four
months.
C
The
timing
of
the
construction
has
yet
to
be
determined,
but
we
will
bring
back
to
council.
You
know
be
prior
to
going
out
to
bid.
We
will
come
back
with
recommendation
on
the
timing
of
the
construction
because
we
do
plan
to
have
the
design
complete
by
this
summer
and
that
could,
as
one
alternative,
allow
us
to
construct
and
get
the
drainages
system
in
place
prior
to
thanksgiving,
which
is
when
I
consider
that
we
consider
the
heavy
rains
to
kick
in
or
after
the
design
is
prepared.
C
C
As
far
as
the
funding
when
this
project
was
presented
to
the
parks
and
rec
Commission
back
in
January
of
2010,
at
that
time,
it
was
estimated
to
cost
1.2
million
to
construct
since
that
time,
as
as
part
of
the
pre
design
report,
the
consultant
is
recommending
a
construction
budget
for
the
field
portion
only
of
1.5
million,
which
is
on
the
conservative
side.
At
this
point,
considering
the
design
has
yet
to
be
finalized,
and
today
the
design
costs
both
for
consultant
and
city
staff.
C
C
As
part
of
the
design,
we
will
be
including
bid
alternates
for
restroom
and
concession
stand.
We
do
have
two
alternatives
at
this
point
and
one
of
them
being
a
smaller
footprint
with
just
two
single
stall
restrooms
another
that
would
add
an
additional
three
hundred
thousand
to
the
cost
for
the
field,
and
we
do
have
another
bid
alternate
for
a
larger
restroom
concession
stand
structure
that
has
separate
male/female
rest
rooms
with
two
stalls
with
in
each
so
for
additional
commenting
on
the
funding
I'll.
Let
Randy
take
over.
B
If,
if
the
council
were
to
to
look
at
recommending
more
setting
aside
a
million
dollars
and
of
the
1.5,
that's
currently
in
the
park
and
LU
fun,
and
then
going
then
asking
the
the
nonprofit
groups
to
do
a
fundraising
effort
of
half
a
million
dollars
to
close
the
gap
between
those
two.
That
would
be
the
general
recommendation
at
this
point
from
staff.
B
Looking
for
funding
it's
important
for
as
they've
done
as
they
look
at
fundraising
opportunities
and
now
greg
has
already
applied
for
at
least
one
of
the
national
group
of
the
national
grants
what's
been
difficult
is
not
having
a
target
construction
budget
which
has
been
1.5
million
dollars,
as
well
as
request
amount
from
the
national
organizations.
If
we
have
a
set
goal
in
this
case
$500,000
and
between
the
groups,
we
come
up
with
a
funding
strategy.
B
It
gives
the
opportunity
for
for
ayso
or
the
other
organizations
to
to
really
ask
for
hard
numbers
and
have
more
specific
data
when
they
approached
the
these
corporate
sponsors
more
the
national
organizations
themselves.
So
that's
more
of
the
fundraising
picture
and
I'd
be
happy
answer.
Any
questions
of
that.
C
So
to
wrap
up
our
presentation
of
our
next
steps
will
be
to
complete
the
design
that
should
be
finished
by
this
summer
and
initiate
the
fundraising
efforts
so
prior
to
going
out
to
bid
to
construct
the
project.
We
will
return
to
counsel
with
an
update
on
both
the
fundraising
efforts,
as
well
as
the
design
of
the
project.
A
D
Could
discuss
drainage
during
the
questions?
I
have
a
few
questions
on
the
drainage,
and
this
is
something
that
we
may
have
covered
before.
It's
been
a
while,
since
we
talked
about
this
topic
and
so
either
slipped
my
mind
or
maybe
I
wasn't
thinking
along
these
lines
back
then,
but
currently
the
way
with
the
natural
turf
any
rainwater
that
falls
on
the
field
gets
absorbed
into
the
ground
and
doesn't
ever
see
its
way
into
our
storm
drain
system.
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is
capture
some
of
that
and
what
I'm
wondering
is.
D
C
D
C
C
Believe
the
odds
of
that
are
very
low.
The
existing
pipe
out
there
is
a
48
inch
and
the
quantity
of
water
we're
generating
my
preliminary
estimates
once
upon
a
time
we're
fairly
low
and
because
it
will
actually
flow
into
a
sump
system.
We
can
kind
of
control
the
amount
of
water
released
into
the
system.
If,
if,
if
we
need
to
okay.
D
And
was
there
any
thought
given
to
doing
anything
else
with
that
water
that
gets
collected
other
than
putting
it
into
the
storm
water
system?
I've
been
reading
about
some
cities
or
putting
in
these
filtration
systems
on
near
parking
lots
where
they
catch
the
water
and
then
let
it
sort
of
filter
itself
back
into
the
aquifer.
D
E
What
it's
called,
but
they
have
the
drainage,
storm
drain
system
and
all
those
things
with
the
plants
and
all
that,
so
they
have
two
of
those
things.
Maybe
there's
a
way
to
easily
connect
it
or
to
make
something
in
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot
or
do
something
like
that.
So
I
I
know.
Jim
Shannon
has
a
lot
of
information
about
that.
Yeah.
C
E
E
Then
the
other
thing
I
don't
know
who
can
answer
this?
How
see
how
likely
or
how
much
is
it
possible
to
get
in
these
times
from
grants
and
donations?
Is
it
I
mean?
Should
we
should
we
set
a
reasonable
goal?
That's
like
two
hundred
thousand
a
hundred
thousand,
what's
reasonable
to
set
that
we
could
actually
get
the
money
for,
or
does
anyone
know
that's.
B
B
B
B
Everything
would
be
hard
to
set
a
specific
target
and
say
this
is
how
much
we're
going
to
be
getting
from
certain
organizations.
We
don't
have
that
experience,
but
we
know
that
it
is
attractive.
We
have
submitted
a
preliminary
grant
to
one
of
the
companies
and
it
was
a
competitive
grant.
We
are
given
an
award,
although
its
condition
upon
which
vendor
is
selected
in
the
process,
so
we
are
not
counting
it.
B
We
have
not
made
that
information
available
because
we're
still
going
to
pick
the
best
vendor
for
the
facility,
with
all
the
criteria
that
that
public
services
in
and
verde
design
come
up
with.
So
we
know
that
it's
at
least
attractive
in
some
aspects,
with
the
multiple
use
in
multiple
age
groups
going
on
out
there.
Okay.
E
I
have
one
more
question
in
in
conjunction
what
Michael
was
saying:
there
are
clean.
There
are
grants
to
do
the
water
filtering,
clean
water,
thingys
that,
like
I,
said
the
names
are
just
escaping
me
tonight
that
might
be
available.
There's
some
through
C
CAG,
there's
some
through
the
state.
So
maybe
we
can
do
a
joint
thing
and.
B
We
do
we
are
looking
at
that
I
think
proposition.
84
is
one
of
those
switching
the
field
over
to
synthetic
grass
does
save
approximately
900
to
a
million
nine
hundred
thousand
to
a
million
gallons
per
year,
and
that's
just
one
more
of
those
factors
that
we
will
put
into
all
of
the
grants
we
apply
for
mr.
F
Rico's
seventh
Avenue
down
at
the
end
of
where
all
your
water
comes,
you're,
saying
that
you're
going
to
have
a
sump,
basically
and
then
pump
the
water
from
the
sump
into
the
beginning
of
the
storm
drain
on
First
Avenue,
and
then
it's
going
to
continue
out
to
wherever
the
water
goes
basically
down,
Angus
and
I.
Guess
it
pumped
over
into
Cuba
trove.
What
about
pumping
the
water
directly
in
the
beginning
of
Cupid
row
right
word
comes
under
the
huntington
there
that
way,
it
doesn't
have
to
go
into
a
pipe
and
potentially
overtax.
F
A
G
Sure
there
are
two
items
that
I
had
actually
three,
but
I
think
the
drainage
is
kind
of
started
to
address
itself
to
the
consultant.
There
were
two
it's
the
funding.
One
is
funding
into
is
parking
on
the
parking
issue
it
is
indicated.
There
are
122
spots
that
are
available
for
usage
is
correct.
I
went
and
confirm
that
today,
23
those
spots
are
on
bellaire
grounds
through
a
locked
gate
that
primarily
is
used
by
Bel
Air
Field
for
pony
baseball
are
those
23
being
utilized
by
the
lions
field.
G
My
concern,
obviously
on
the
parking
is:
will
there
be
enough?
I
know
the
Commission
believe
so
I
think
consultant
does
I.
Believe
staff
does
I'd
also
talked
about
when
the
train
station
moves
acquiring
and
asking.
If
we
could
utilize
I
think
there's
almost
70
spots
are
already
paved
lined
on
the
east
side
of
the
tracks
that
the
train
station
currently
uses.
Has
anyone
reached
out
to
them
or
inquired
as
if
that
would
even
be
a
possibility.
C
Wow
to
address
maybe
the
caltrain
station
first
I
know
that
the
joint
powers
board,
the
JPB-
has
yet
to
finalize
their
decisions
as
in
regards
to
the
real
estate
aspects
of
their
station,
which
you
know
will
be
replaced
by
the
grade
separation
so
that
that
situation
is
pending,
and
you
know
we
will,
we
will
be
in
contact
with
them.
You
know
to
to
see
if
they're
open
to
that
possibility.
C
G
C
H
B
After
the
initial
question
came
up
at
the
previous
meetings,
I
contacted
them
only
about
the
use
of
the
current
spaces
and
they
were
not
open
to
the
possibilities
of
permits
or
anything
else
in
terms
of
the
public
using
those
spaces
as
a
free
basis.
In
terms
of
the
long-range
plans,
they
banded
mint
I.
Don't
think
we've
done
at
this
point.
I.
C
Actually,
those
were
included
in
the
analysis
done
by
our
consultant,
their
grand
total
for
parking
spaces.
You
know
at
various
locations
came
out
to
130,
including
those
23,
so
I
guess
we
will
definitely
reconfirm
this.
But
if
you
take
out
the
23
that
leaves
us
with
107
and
their
tally
for
a
typical
tournament
is
54
spaces
required.
So
if
both
fields
are
in
operation
for
tournaments,
that's
108
space
is
required
and
we
have
107.
So
we
can
definitely
have
entry
confirm
just.
G
B
Why
that's
why
tournaments
are
looked
at
separately
than
regular
league
play
or
practices
practices?
Is
the
lightest
amount
where
typically
the
parents
will
drop
off
the
kids
and
then
pick
them
up
an
hour
so
later
and
there's
very
few
cars
on
this
on
the
site
for
league
games?
The
parents
come
they
stay,
they
watch,
then
you
get
the
overlap.
Where
you
have
two
teams
playing.
You
have
two
teams
that
have
come
in
and
they're
waiting
to
play
the
next
game.
They
may
be
warming
up,
etc.
B
Absolutely
if
something
were
to
open
up
over
the
caltrain
site
later
on.
Was
that
desirable?
Of
course
it
is,
but
the
additional
play
with
the
synthetic
field
is
really
going
to
come
in
the
winter
months
when
bel
air
fields
closed.
So
we're
really
looking
at
the
games
or
the
turns
being
54
cars
for
one
diamond
rather
than
the
108
cars
for
the
two
fields.
G
And
I'm,
and
thank
you
for
the
answer.
It's
just
I'm
on
the
parking
issue,
I'll
leave
that
I
know.
It's
believed
that
there
will
be
quote
adequate
parking
is
indicated,
and
my
worry
always
is.
It
looks
good
on
paper.
Consultants,
elliott's
looks
great
and
I
was
remember,
account
form
a
council
member
and
mayor.
G
That
said
still
today
he
regrets
the
decision
of
shelter
creek,
because
the
parking
looked
good
on
paper,
but
we
obviously
know
what
we
have
today
so
and
you
can't
get
parking
back
once
you
go
forward
with
something
it
is
what
it
is
and
we
have
residential
neighborhood
there.
So
I
certainly
would
hate
to
see,
as
we
already
have
people
that
are
concerned
on
the
other
side
of
the
city
park,
that
their
streets
become,
which
has
already
congested
even
more
so
with
the
limited
parking
being
taken
up
by
others.
G
G
There
was
some
discussion,
though:
nothing
was
confirmed
or
decided
about
potentially
taking
600,000
out
of
park
and
LU
at
that
time,
and
maybe
six
hundred
thousand
or
fundraising
or
other
efforts,
I
believe
what
you're
asking
is
consideration
by
the
council,
two
out
of
the
1.5
to
put
a
million
dollars
toward
this
project,
leaving
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
is
something
have
we
really
examined
where
we
want
our
Park
and
luffy's
to
go?
Are
there
other
projects
on
the
horizon?
G
I,
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
get
much
more
influx
of
parking
Luffy's
soon.
So
that's
another
mechanism
that
concerns
me
too
is
is
on
the
funding
and
I.
Guess
that's
something
the
council
has
to
be
comfortable
of
how
much
and
they
of
the
current
existing
fund
they
want
to
have
dedicated
toward
the
project.
H
Think
at
this
point
you
we
got
your
comments
regarding
the
various
issues
associated
with
the
design
development,
which
was
very
helpful.
As
staff
indicated,
we
intend
to
proceed
to
the
final
design,
taking
into
consideration
the
comments
that
have
been
made
tonight.
You
will
next
see
the
project
up
for
your
authorization
to
bid
the
project.
H
The
the
one
last
item
that
would
be
very
helpful
is
if
the
council
has
we've
heard
from
councilmember
Medina
regarding
the
funding,
but
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
chicken
and
egg
problem
here
with
this
project.
If
we
we
don't
want
to
come
back
to
you
with
the
project
completely
designed
and
then
say:
okay
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
tell
you
at
that
point
that
we
have
some
amount
of
funding
commitments
beyond
funds
that
currently
reside
in
the
city's
resources.
H
So
if
you
have
a
comfort
level
and
you're
prepared
to
tell
us
tonight
what
that
might
be,
then
we
can
use
the
remainder
amount
as
the
and
or
if
you
can
tell
us
what
you
think
we
should
be
looking
for
in
terms
of
non
City.
Contributions
to
this
project
having
that
target,
as
the
director
indicated,
would
be
very
helpful,
believe.
H
H
A
E
Agree
with
you
and
I
seem
to
recall
that
before
all
this,
your
staff
and
the
park
and
rec
Commission
went
through
a
whole
exercise
of
what
can
we
spend
this
money
on
and
there
wasn't
a
lot
I
know
you
looked
for
other
fields.
I
know
you
looked
at
fields
that
exist
in
howdy.
Can
you
reconfigure
them
to
make
more
playing
fields
in
time
we
already
did
and
already
rehabilitated
the
playground
equipments
and
things
like
that?
E
E
So
I
too,
am
comfortable
with
up
to
a
million
and
I
am
as
I
would
like
us
to
look
at
redevelopment
agencies
times
are
tough
out
there
and
I
would
not
like
us
to
skimp
on
on
something
this
major,
because
we
don't
have
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
or
because
we
only
get
50
I
mean
500.
You
know
whatever
it
is
I'd
like
us
to
look
at
it
and
maybe
it's
not
for
the.
Maybe
it
could
be
a
partial
thing
for
the
drainage
itself
and
not
necessarily
for
the
park
part.