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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting 11-10-09 Full Meeting
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San Bruno City Council Meeting 11-10-09 Full Meeting
D
A
A
I
have
a
few
announcements
this
evening.
The
13th
annual
Coats
for
Kids
program
is
collecting
clean
gently
used
coats
for
distribution
at
the
volunteer
firemen's
hall,
which
is
at
618
san
mateo
avenue
on
thursday
november
nineteenth
next
week
from
four
o'clock
to
seven
o'clock
p.m.
if
you
need
more
information.
A
You
can
get
that
on
the
city
website,
it's
a
great
program
and
it's
a
great
way
to
use
those
coats
that
you've,
either
outgrown
or
kids,
have
outgrown
and
are
still
in
real
good
shape,
and
it's
a
real
big
program
each
year
and
very
successful
there's
a
special
meeting
for
the
purpose
of
installing
newly
elected
city
officials
here
in
this
chambers
on
tuesday
december
first
at
seven
o'clock
p.m.
and
there
will
not
be
a
second
meeting
per
city
ordinance
in
december.
A
This
december
to
city
council
only
meets
on
the
second
tuesday
of
the
month,
not
the
fourth
presentations.
There
are
none
this
evening
review
of
agenda
I
have
no
items
to
be
changed.
Hearing,
none
from
the
council
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
special
council
member
council,
meeting
of
September
28th
2009
and
a
regular
City
Council
meeting
of
October
27
there's
no
changes.
The
minutes
will
stand
approved
as
submitted
hearing.
Then
the
ministry
and
approve
consent
calendar
all
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented
earlier
council
action
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
A
E
E
The
moratorium
by
government
law
could
only
be
enacted
for
a
time
frame
of
a
maximum
time
frame
of
45
days,
and
so
that
moratorium
is
going
to
expire
on
November
27
by
its
own
terms.
What
the
government
code
requires
is
that
at
least
10
days
prior
to
the
expiration
of
that
moratorium,
that
city
staff
for
that
the
City
Council
rather
adopt
a
report,
and
that
is
in
part
the
purpose
of
the
report
this
evening.
The
report
had
to
occur
this
evening
in
order
to
make
that
10
day
limitation.
E
So
by
the
government
code,
what
is
required
that
staff
do
in
the
interim
is
report
back
to
you
on
the
measures
that
are
taken
if
any,
to
alleviate
the
conditions
that
led
to
the
moratorium
in
the
first
place,
and
what
I'd
like
to
be
clear
about
is
that
there
really
isn't
anything
significant.
That
I
feel
that
I
can
add
to
my
report
this
evening
that
wasn't
already
provided
to
you
on
octobre
13,
and
that
is
because
the
primary
issues
are
really
legal.
Now
there
is
a
new
report,
a
report
from
the
police
chief.
E
If
you
would
like
to
hear
more
from
him
this
evening,
but
I
think
I
can
summarize
his
report
this
way,
and
that
is
that
the
police
chief
is
unconvinced
that
regulations
could
adequately
address
the
negative
impacts
associated
with
collectives
I.
Think
that
was
his
opinion
on
October
13th
and
his
report
indicates
that
his
opinion
has
not
changed
since
then.
I
do
think
that
there
is
a
value
in
continuing
to
study,
different
cities
that
have
enacted
moratoriums.
E
Excuse
me
have
enacted
regulations
overseeing
collectives
and
to
analyze
whether
there
are
any
whether
there
is
any
valuable
information
to
be
gleaned
in
the
particular
manner
that
they've
regulated
them.
That
might
inform
the
City
Council
as
to
how
it
wants
to
proceed.
But,
overall,
my
recommendation
is
really
the
same
as
it
was
on
October
13th
and
that
is
to
recommend
to
the
City
Council,
a
continuation
of
the
moratorium,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
the
legal
landscape
has
not
changed
whatsoever
in
that
time.
There
isn't
really
much
for
me
to
add.
E
There
are
no
new
cases.
The
issue
comes
down
to
this.
Does
the
City
Council
wish
to
allow
but
regulate
collectives,
or
does
it
wish
to
enact
a
band
and
in
presenting
to
you
to
the
full
panoply
of
options
at
this
time?
I
cannot
recommend
to
you
a
permanent
ban,
because
it
is
not
clear
that
that
is
a
legally
viable
option
for
you.
E
However,
if
you
know
already
that
that
is
not
the
direction
that
you
want
to
go
that
you
don't
want
to
enact
a
permanent
ban,
then
there
are
a
number
of
different
options
that
the
city
council
could
consider
in
terms
of
regulating
collectives.
There
are
a
number
of
different
approaches
that
cities
have
taken.
E
Now,
I
did
draft
up
an
ordinance
that
is
based
on
the
San
Mateo
model,
but
in
drafting
that
ordinance
it
made
me
realize
that
I
didn't
feel
that
I
had
the
council's
collective
direction
on
exactly
which
option
you
would
prefer
so
I
wanted
to
spend
a
few
minutes
just
reviewing
those
with
you.
They
are
in
your
packet.
One
is
one
city
has
used
the
approach
of
saying
that
medical
marijuana
collectives
are
allowed,
but
only
by
state
licensed
facilities
that
are
facilitating
the
care
of
elderly
or
sick
patients.
That
is
how
colma
has
approached
it.
E
One
is
that
the
City
Council,
if
it
would
like
more
information
on
any
or
all
of
those
approaches,
could
convene
a
study
session
to
obtain
more
information
about
these
approaches
or,
if
you
feel
prepared
this
evening,
to
provide
me
guidance
and
direction,
then
I'm
prepared
to
move
an
ordinance
to
the
Planning
Commission
as
soon
as
possible,
and
would
suggest
that
you
enact
a
short
of
moratorium
while
that
process
occurs.
So
that
completes
my
report
and
I'd
like
to
see
if
you
have
any
questions
for
me
this
evening,
questions
of
staff.
F
E
It
does
not
preclude
you
from
coming
back
at
an
earlier
time.
You
would
simply
rescind
that
ordinance
or
repeal
that
ordinance
and
then
enact
a
new
one.
There
would
be
a
30-day
period.
Well,
you
have
to
adopt
I'll
just
say
it's
a
30-day
period
in
order
to
repeal
an
ordinance.
So
that's
a
time
frame.
Okay,.
A
G
Good
evening
Richard
Silva
I
live
in
pacifica
I
got
a
call
this
morning
from
the
reporter
and
he's
pretty.
You
know
valid
on
that.
You've
all
made
your
decisions
and
that's
fine
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
educate
further.
It's
fine,
but
I
brought
some
folks
along
with
me
tonight
as
Suresh
here
in
the
front
he's
our
financial
backer
100%
legitimate
real
estate.
G
Man
owns
several
businesses
in
san
bruno,
we're
not
drug
dealers
that
have
piled
bunches
of
money
together
and
are
you
know
looking
to
profit,
my
man
Dave
in
the
front
there
he
has
a
medical
marijuana
card
to
see,
love
California
on
it.
You
know
passed
that
on
to
you-
and
you
know,
I
mean
the
bottom
line,
is
they're
delivery
services
and
there's
illegal
services
that
that
you
can't
control
that
you
have
no
control
over
no
matter
how
hard
you
try
it's
happening,
there's
one
in
millbrae
and
and
and
that's
happening,
there's
popping
up
everywhere.
G
What
we
would
provide
to
you
is
an
open
door
of
regular
tape
regulations.
We
want
to
work
with
you.
The
Chiefs
report.
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
come
across
I
guess:
they're
sent
to
all
the
Chiefs
in
California
and
they
compare
marijuana
to
opium
and
you
know
I
understand
you
make
your
own
personal
decisions
and
you
also
have
direction
from
your
peers.
But
I
believe
that
report
was
in
october
chief.
They
came
down
and
they.
G
Anyways,
every
chief
in
california
is
not
going
to
be
for
this.
That's
that's
just
the
way
it's
going
to
be
we're
not
he's
not
going
to
put
himself
out
there
that
way.
So,
on
the
other
side
of
the
other
side
of
the
the
grass
there,
we
want
to
work
hand
to
hand
with
the
police
we're
not
disguising
things.
That's
what
we're
wrong
in
south
city.
Is
they
weren't
up
front
I
gave
you
a
complete
inventory
of
how
things
would
work
and
our
whole
goal
is
not
to
sell
marijuana.
G
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
educate
people
so
that
they
can
grow
it
themselves.
I
mean
in
a
perfect
world,
I
mean
with
the
health
care
issues
we
have.
If
you
could
roll
your
own
medicine
in
your
closet
and
be
self-sustaining,
why
wouldn't
you
so
that
that's
where
I
stand
and
those
are
my
beliefs
and
they
won't
change?
G
And
whatever
your
decision
tonight,
miss
Thompson
has
my
number
I'm
willing
to
work
with
you
folks
today,
tomorrow,
22
months,
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
get
a
better
applicant
than
me
and
micro
hearts
and
that's
how
I
feel
about
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
D
D
A
G
G
D
H
G
H
G
Personally,
have
one
patient
and
that's
all
I've
ever
done
like
I
said
this,
isn't
my
profession
I'm
in
the
restaurant
business,
this
isn't
suresh's
profession,
he's
a
property
manager,
heroes,
real
estates.
You
know
as
a
liquor
store
Dave
owns
his
own
pool
company,
so
you
know
other
than
having
working
knowledge
on
how
to
grow
and
have
been
members
of
clubs
and
see
how
they
the
business
and
works
of
it.
That's
where
our
interest
comes
in
and
it's
nice
to
give
back.
G
There's
not
there's
not
going
to
be
another
collective
or
none
of
the
collective's
give
back
the
way
they
should
period
and
we
like
to
set
the
standard.
I
know
that
if
you
gave
us
a
shot,
you
know
the
chief
wouldn't
want
the
new
squad
cars
coming
from
our
collective,
but
under
our
corporation
there
would
be
so
much
donations
that
you
know
and
of
course,
schools
and
and
everything
I
mean
we're
here
to
give
back
san
bruno.
G
G
G
No
known
as
a
certain
reason
why
it
has
to
be
in
sanford:
oh,
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
in
san
bruno,
it's
just
if
there
is
not
one
there.
I
lived
in
san
bruno
for
eight
or
nine
years.
I
know
the
people
of
san
berdo
and
I
know
there's
lots
of
marijuana
transactions
going
on
every
single
day
in
san
bruno,
and
you
know
whether
the
city
wants
to
take
an
opportunity
to
drive
some
funds
back
into
it.
Any
way
you
can
in
this
economy.
I
think
should
thank.
G
A
F
You
I
personally,
don't
know
enough
about
all
this
and
I
never
encountered
anyone.
Who's
used.
One
and
I
haven't
I've,
read
all
the
information
we've
given,
but
it
seems
to
be
in
a
state
of
flux
as
far
as
how
to
best
deal
with
it,
how
to
best
satisfy
everyone
and
how
to
best
do
all
this.
So
I
would
personally
love
to
have
a
study
session
where
we
get
all
sides
and
learn
more
about
it
before
we
make
any
disp
in
of
it
definitive
decision
on
it.
I
Briefly,
I
agree
I,
it's
too
many
things
that
I'd
have
questions
all
over
the
place
and
I'm
sure
this.
This
applicant
has
a
lot
of
information
and
can
pass
on
and
be
very,
very
informative
at
a
study
session,
along
with
other
other
individuals
and
other
organizations,
so
I
think
we've
done
very
well
in
getting
enough
information
or
getting
enough
information
to
make
a
statement
make
make
a
decision
at
study
session.
So
I
I'm
in
favor
of
extending
the
ordinance
as
extending
the
moratorium.
I
I
J
Am
also
going
to
share
as
far
as
extending
the
moratorium
I
know
in
south
san
francisco,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
one
on
spruce
that
we're
referring
to.
I
know
that
there
was
some
dialogue
of
there's
something
on
spruce.
There
was
supposed
to
be
another
one
going
in
on
utah
and
the
100
block.
There's
still
a
for
lease
sign
at
that
property
when,
by
trying
to
look,
I
wanted
to
educate
myself
to
understand
better
honestly.
My
understanding
of
it
and
again
maybe
very
naive,
is
that
it
was.
J
These
type
of
things
are
to
help
maybe
serve
folks
that
are
having
cancer
on
trying
to
alleviate
their
pain.
When
I
hear
from
the
speaker,
as
far
as
educating
people
to
grow
it
in
your
closet
and
there's
tons
of
troy,
there's
transactions
going
on
throughout
the
city
streets,
that
is
not
all
that
I
have
envisioned
and
encompass
as
far
as
the
collective
is
concerned,
so
I
know
in
south
city
they've
introduced.
J
I
think
I'm
not
mistaken
last
month,
moratorium
themselves
trying
to
better
understand
and
educate
themselves,
even
though
already
proving
something
on
utah
and
now
they're
in
discussion
about
that
itself.
So
that's
our
neighbors
to
the
north.
I
do
believe
that
it's
a
difficult
issue.
It's
not
an
easy
one
way
or
another.
I've
had
emails
from
folks.
I've
had
phone
calls
and
it
has
there's
a
diversity
of
opinion
on
this
on
all
sides.
J
But
as
one
person
who
emailed
me
and
who
I
called
her,
she
said
don't
have
a
knee-jerk
reaction
and
just
say
no
give
it
the
thought,
give
it
the
time,
give
it
the
understanding
and
the
concern
that
it
deserves
and
the
people
that
it
serves
or
those
folks
that
may
have
a
second
opinion
on
it.
So,
for
all
those
reasons,
I
think
it
only
does
us
more
of
a
better
opportunity
to
better
understand
everything
from
the
ground
level.
Up
and
honestly,
mr.
J
A
Just
on
the
study
session,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
and
there
there
are
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions,
but
I
would
think
we'd,
be
the
council
be
best
served.
Give
staff
some
direction
when
you
have
a
study
session
is
to
the
types
of
questions
you
want
to
answer
it
or
the
types
of
examples
that
you
want.
I
mean
because
I
would
predict
that
if
you
had
a
study
session
next
month,
the
study
session
wouldn't
be
much
different
than
the
meeting
your
have
now,
except
I
won't
be
there.
A
I
A
A
Was
a
unanimous
vote?
Okay
item
9
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
It's
the
council's
action
to
refer
matters
raised
in
his
formed
staff
for
investigation
and
or
action
where
appropriate.
The
Brown
Act
prohibits
the
council
from
acting
or
discussing
any
matter,
not
agendized
pursuant
to
state
law,
and
we
have
a
speaker
name
and
street.
D
Name
is
robert
wrinkles,
seventh
Avenue
I
just
want
to
let
the
city
know
that
I've
stuck
my
nose
in
probably
more
than
once
on
the
Fifth
Avenue,
where
you're
doing
your
your
trench
drain
for
the
improving
the
storm
water
flow
and
one
the
residents
are
happy,
you're
doing
it
and
it
seems
to
be
going
well
and
the
contractors
that
you
ended
up
with
seem
to
be
conscientious
and
professional
and
doing
a
good
job.
So
I
think
you,
whether
whether
it
works
or
not.
C
Lori
greenberg
fleetwood,
dr
in
san
bruno,
just
a
quick
reminder
that
to
remind
everyone
that
tomorrow
is
veterans
day
and
we
do
have
a
National
Cemetery
in
san
bruno
and
they
have
a
program
prepared
by
the
avenue
of
flags
eleven
o'clock.
So
it's
the
11th
hour
on
the
eleventh
day
of
the
eleventh
month
and
anybody
in
san
bruno.
Anybody
in
our
community
is
welcome
to
participate
in
honor
our
veterans.
So
thank
you.
K
Alice
Barnes
Fifth,
Avenue,
home
of
California's,
newest
storm
drain,
trench
and
I
just
couldn't
resist
my
brother
in
crime
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
also,
but
while
I'm
here
and
I
don't
come
off
and
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
Larry
friends,
Ella
I've
known
you
for
many
years
up
here
in
public
service
and
I
have
been
more
than
impressed,
and
san
bruno
is
a
better
place.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
for
the
guy.
Next
to
you.
K
Ago,
the
electorate
of
san
bruno
spoke
loudly
and
they
chose
Jim
ruin
to
be
on
the
council
rather
than
me,
and
that
was
the
best
choice
for
the
community
and
now
that
he's
well
I,
don't
want
to
steal
the
City
Clerk's
thunder,
but
I
understand
he's
going
to
be
the
next
mayor
and
we've
spoken
very
well
again.
So
thank
you.
Both
Thank
You
Alice.
A
C
Honorable
mayor
and
councilmembers,
san
mateo
county
has
28
days
from
the
date
of
the
election,
which
was
november
third
to
certify
the
results.
So
the
results
that
I'm
going
to
give
you
tonight
our
semi
official
results.
As
of
today
november
10
for
the
office
of
mayor,
jim
Ruane,
received
3210
votes,
michela
rahu
received
1165
votes,
council
had
two
open
seats
and
both
incumbents
ran
unopposed
rico.
C
Medina
received
3329
votes
and
can
I
borrow
received
3158
votes,
the
treasure
had
one
open
seat
and
the
incumbent
ran
unopposed
and
the
incumbent
John
Marty
received
3726
votes,
the
serta
city
clerk
had
one
open
seat
and
she
ran
unopposed
and
that's
Carol
Bonner
and
she
received
3811
votes
and
then
Connie
like
to
speak
to
you.
Our
city
manager,.
L
Thank
You
Carol
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council.
The
purpose
of
my
short
additional
report
is
to
provide
you
some
specific
information
and
give
an
opportunity.
The
heads
up
both
to
the
City
Council,
as
well
as
to
members
of
the
public
about
the
process
and
the
timeline
that
applies
under
state
law
for
the
City
Council's
decision
making
with
respect
to
filling
a
vacancy
that
will
exist
on
the
City
Council
with
councilmember
remains
election
to
the
mayor's
seat.
That
election
result
will
take
effect
as
of
December
first.
L
That
is
the
first
Tuesday
that
immediately
follows
the
timeline
for
the
city
I'm,
sorry
for
the
county
to
complete
the
final
results
of
the
election
which
occurred
on
November.
Third.
At
that
time,
the
new
mayor
will
take
his
seat
and
all
of
the
newly
elected
public
officials
will
be
sworn
in
and
take
their
seats
at
that
time.
With
the
transmission
of
current
mayor
larry,
crowne
xela
off
of
the
city
council,
there
will
be
the
initiation
of
a
vacancy
again.
The
purpose
of
my
report
is
and
not
to
engage
you
in
discussion.
B
L
L
The
second
option
under
state
law
is
for
the
City
Council
to
make
an
appointment
to
fill
that
vacancy,
and
in
this
case
there
is
a
fairly
short
period
of
time
that
state
law
provides
for
that
they
can
see
for
that
decision
to
be
completed,
in
other
words,
for
an
appointment
to
be
made
and
a
new
council
member
to
be
seated
as
you
can
well
imagine
just
visualizing
the
calendar
in
your
head
beginning
december.
First
30
days
puts
a
very
tight
window
of
time
right
on
top
of
a
typically
busy
holiday
season.
L
L
If
the
city
council
elects
to
or
decides
to
make
an
appointment
again,
you
have
30
days
to
do
that
and
I
will
be
laying
out
a
proposed
schedule
for
your
consideration.
That
would
allow
the
council
potentially
to
complete
that
process
prior
to
the
full
on
holiday
season.
But
again
would
just
as
a
with
my
purpose
as
a
heads
up,
make
it
clear
to
the
city
council
into
the
public
that
this
important
decision
will
be
needing
to
be
made.
L
If
that's
the
council's
pleasure
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
it
has
traditionally
been
the
City
Council's
process
in
the
in
these
previous
occasions,
where
an
appointment
has
been
made
to
an
elective
office
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
citizens
who
are
interested
to
participate,
and
it
is
with
that
in
mind
that
I
will
again
be
making
a
recommendation
to
you
for
a
schedule
that
begins
almost
immediately
after
December
first
and
again
concludes
within
the
first
couple
of
weeks
of
December.
In
order
to
avoid
the
holidays
with
that
I
I.
L
A
A
L
So
while
the
staff
is
preparing
I,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
City,
Council
I
asked
for
this
report
to
be
made
tonight,
not
because
there's
any
action
to
be
considered,
but
because
this
is
a
highly
visible
long-anticipated
project.
And
it
is
one
that
about
which
I've
received
a
number
of
questions.
And
so
our
interest
here
tonight
is
to
provide
you
with
a
brief
update
and
again
for
the
purpose
of
informing
the
public.
As
this
exciting
project
moves
forward
to
completion.
M
Presenting
a
high
public
interest-
I
will
just
remind
you,
but
his
scope
of
the
project,
those
highlighted
median
on
el
camino
will
be
redeveloped.
That
was
is
the
intent.
Those
medians
should
look
like
very
close
to
this
picture
at
the
end
of
the
development
of
the
project,
and
also
the
two
monuments
will
be
installed
both
at
the
southern
entrance
of
this
project.
M
M
What
is
very
specific,
what
is
very
different
for
this
project
versus
other
project
in
the
city
is
that
the
work
is
for
very
late
here
this
evening
to
provide
me
Caltrans,
right-of-way
and
based
on
a
encroachment
permit
issued
by
them
part
of
the
encroachment
permit,
limited
the
construction
time
between
nine
o'clock
and
three
o
clock
PM.
That
really
gave
the
contractor
a
very
short
construction
window.
In
essence,
between
nine-thirty
and
230
each
day
also.
M
Based
on
certain
limitation
of
that
encroachment
permit
the
project
needed
to
be
closed
down,
for
what
are
the
weather
delays
and
also
based
on
other
traffic
related
issues
region-wide
like
the
bay
bridge
repair.
During
that
time,
caltrain
revoked
the
issued
encroachment
permit
on
last
friday
was
the
59th
working
day
on
this
project
and
at
that
time,
about
sixty-five
percent
of
dead
working
days
was
consumed
by
the
contractor
and
from
the
initial
scope
of
the
project,
they
basically
already
performed
around
75
percent
of
the
initial
scope
of
the
project.
M
M
Concrete
stone
drain,
which
basically
is
a
storm
existing
store
box
on
median
15,
also
is
existing
obstruction
underneath
the
road
bad
based
on
those
already
mentioned
by
me
reason
the
CD
extended
the
working
days
for
this
project
and
right
now
they
expected
completion
time
for
this
project
is
much
of
next
year
too
place
this
time
frame
in
context,
I
heard
mentioning
a
few
times.
The
construction
on
the
median
for
San
Bruno
that
was
little
bit
faster
than
how
is
the
construction
is
proceed.
Yes,
at
least
this
proceed
going
on
on
this
project.
M
That
construction
lasted
little
bad
well
over
five
months
and
certainly
wasn't
the
time
of
the
construction
wasn't
limited.
How
is
in
this
case
that,
basically,
the
contractor
has
much
narrower
construction
window,
then
for
that
project,
and
also
on
this
project,
a
contractor
encountered
the
challenging
site
condition
which
was
unforeseen
at
the
time
of
the
issuance
of
the
contract.
If
you
have
any
question
any.
I
M
Us
any
unforeseen
condition
in
the
field
will
have
a
financial
impact.
It
is
right
now,
based
on
our
ad
agreed
on
change
order
and
changes
in
for
the
project.
Those
contingencies
covered
the
cost
of
the
project,
but
the
late.
Some
of
those
items
are
still
under
negotiation
and
that
will
go
over
the
approved
budget
for
this
project,
and
this
is
my
expectation
at
this
time
that
the
department
will
be
back
in
probably
not
the
next
council
meeting,
but
the
following
concern
meeting
to
ask
for
additional
budget
appropriation
for
the
project.
I'm.
M
M
Are
correct
and
I
didn't
clarify
and
fell
enough
and
that's
why
you
slit
about
confusing
the
information,
the
sixty-four
percent
and
the
seven
if
the
65
and
the
seventy-four
percent
represents
the
initial
time
and
the
initial
scope
of
the
project
that
really
showed
that
F
would
not
have
been
any
unforeseen
condition
on
this
project,
then
the
contractor
would
have
been
little
bit
even
I
had
of
schedule,
but
due
to
those
unforeseen
foundation
in
the
field
that
had
a
negative
impact
on
the
schedule
and
also
on
the
budget
of
the
project.
So.
M
J
Future
and
I
know
you
keep
saying
these
unforeseen
circumstances.
What
are
these
unforeseen
items
that
were
referring
to
or
if
that
you
don't
have
all
that
in
and
are
you
talking
about
the
weather
condition
you're
talking
about
the
bay
bridge
closure?
But
you
said
there
was
something
else
and
that's
what
I'm
not
hearing
as
to
what,
unless
I've
missed
that
those.
M
J
Is
your
estimate,
or
maybe
it's
too
early
to
I,
know
you're
going
to
come
back?
Yes,
I
notice,
you're
going
to
do
when
mr.
frenzel
is
off
so
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
doing
that,
just
to
make
it
easier
on
her
hella
or
not,
but
but
what
are
we?
What's
the
what's
the
thought
of
the
overage
that
this
is
going
to
cause
because
of
these
unforeseen
site
conditions?
In
addition
to
the
other
items
that
you
mentioned,
I.
J
M
As
is
my
intent
to
come
back,
those
change
orders
won't
change
order
and
those
on
address
issues
or
under
negotiation
with
the
contractor,
and
that's
why
the
contractor
came
back
with
two
alternatives
and
what
which
alternative
of
those
two
will
be
accepted
by
the
city
will
have
a
impact
on
the
final
cost.
And
that's.
A
A
To
point
out
a
little
bit
clearing
many
people
understand
but
like
on
meeting
15,
where
it
says
the
obstruction
of
underneath
El
Camino.
We
are
a
roadway
bed.
Those
minions
planter
boxes
were
just
built
on
top
of
the
road.
It's
amazing
that
those
trees
got
to
some
20
feet
tall
with
about
2
feet
of
soil.
That's
why
you
saw
the
edging
of
the
median
strips
bulging
out
in
the
concrete
moving,
because
it
couldn't
penetrate
the
El
Camino
roadway
bed.
A
So
the
bed
has
been
open
so
now
new
plantings
will
actually
be
able
to
go
all
the
way
down
through
the
ground,
and
it's
amazing
that
those
trees
got
to
look.
You
got
to
be
as
big
as
they
are,
and
it's
no
wonder
why
they
never
looked
all
that
great.
There
was
really
not
much
dirt
there
there's
a
lot
of
room
so.
I
In
my
last
comment
is
that
my
concern
is
and
I
understand
that
there's
these
unforeseen
things
and
you
can't
thoroughly
survey
what
what
they're
going
to
what
they're
going
to
come
up
with
what
they're
going
to
contend
with,
but
I,
don't
I'm
very
concerned
that
if
you're
saying
right
now,
that
would
have
almost
exhausted
all
of
the
contingency
that
your
next
report
is
going
to
say
that
we're
going
to
be,
you
know
a
large
percentage
over
budget,
and
and
how
does
that
you
know?
How
does
that
affect
the
project?
I,
don't
want
to
think
I.
I
M
Member
I,
better
I,
am
NOT
expecting
the
cost
to
be
much
over.
Yes,
you
say
will
be
over
on,
but
I
don't
think
we're
way
too
excessive
over
on
at
this
time.
Based
on
what
I
know
today
and
I,
I
think
the
department
now
have
a
very
good
understanding.
What
is
the
existing
condition
in
the
field,
and
certainly
this
was
a.
M
M
Also
before
you
and
you
approved
a
CIP
project
for
Ford's,
a
great
separation
project
and
you
allocated
funding
for
step,
support
and
consultant
support
to
work
in
the
development
of
this
project
in
September.
Also,
this
item
was
before
you
to
you:
give
direction
to
staff
on
basic
structural
design
element
of
this
project,
the
purpose
of
the
MOU.
What
you
have
before
you
tonight
is
in
essence
to
memorialize.
D
M
What
this
MOU
is
not
intended
to
do
to
specify
all
of
the
design
elements
of
and
agreement
on,
all
of
the
design
elements
of
this
project.
I
will
take
you
through.
If
you
I
will
highlight,
highlight
just
a
few
items
of
interest
from
the
MOU,
but
the
city
agrees
to
entering
in
this
MOU
to
the
city
will
agree
to
the
main
structural
elements
of
design
was
included
in
the
sexy
5%.
M
Project
design,
jpv
also
acknowledged
several,
are
resolves,
cope
issues
in
this
65
sexy
5%
design,
including
or
high-tech
chiral
feature
at
for
support
or
heat
actual
design
of
the
new
station.
The
aesthetics
and
surface
treatment
of
the
retaining
wall
system,
utility
relocations
and
less
and
landscaping
will
be
resolved
as
part
of
the
final
design.
M
This
project
is
intended
to
be
developing
to
construction
phases
based
on
two
difference:
construction
contract
and
will
be
a
decision
point,
but
JPB
will
have
to
make
poor
for
the
second
phase
of
this
project,
depending
on
the
decision
on
the
high-speed
rail,
and
this
is
a
statement
that
the
city
is
interested
in
one-time
construction,
that
basically
finishing
the
project
for
four
tracks.
Instead
of
finishing
for
two
tracks
and
coming
back
later
for
this
for
the
next
two
tracks,
JPB
and
the
silica
me
commit
to
conclude
discussion
of
unresolved
issues
in
a
timely
manner.
M
Jp
beaver
six
series
series
review
of
the
design
and
will
incorporate
those
comments
by
by
the
city
into
the
final
design
that,
if
they
are
feasible,
JPB
will
keep
City
informed
of
progress
of
construction.
And
we
coordinate
public
outreach
with
the
city.
They
will
designate
a
point
of
contact
and
the
city
will
do
the
same.
M
L
D
L
Interest
to
the
community,
the
JPB
has
on
a
regular
and
continuous
basis,
provided
a
very
collaborative,
very
cooperative
and
very
proactive
relationship
with
staff
in
working
through
a
myriad
of
design
details.
We
fully
expect
that
both
the
need
for
that
type
of
work
and
the
cooperative
spirit,
and
fact
that
has
guided
that
work
to
date.
We
have
every
expectation
that
will
continue
through
the
complete
design
and
development
of
this
project.
L
With
that
said,
I,
and
without
disregarding
fully
acknowledging
that
again,
there
are
many
issues
that
are
not
nailed
down
at
this
time.
They
are
also
not
specifically
articulated
in
this
MOU
and
for
clarification
purposes
just
to
reemphasize,
something
that
the
director
said.
It
is
not
the
purpose
or
our
expectation.
I
I
That
statement,
but
I'm
still
concerned
because
there's
two
statements
in
this
draft
MOU
that
seem
to
contradict
each
other
and
that's
during
this
in
the
description
of
the
scope
of
the
project
in
very
simply
states
that
the
details
of
the
project
are
more
specifically
described
in
the
jpv
65-percent
design,
drawings
dated
august
28
2009.
And
then
it
goes
to
paragraphs
later
that
the
JPB
acknowledges
that
there
are
several
unresolved
scope
issues,
the
65
isn't
yeah.
I
So
one
you're
saying
you
got
specific
details
of
the
project
and
then
not
and
then
another
statement
was
you
know
where
we're
expected
to
accept
that
there's
still
unresolved
issues,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
get
in
a
bind.
If
you
know,
if
we
start
using
now,
you
know
those
statements,
I
think
I,
don't
like
to
hear
the
details
of
the
more
you
know:
I,
don't
like
words
that,
like
specific,
like
you
know,
and
then
several
unresolved
I
mean
it
just
seems
to
be
a
contradiction
there.
I
It
and
I'm
fine
with
the
whole
MOU
and
the
whole
relationship-
and
you
know
in
that
that
setup
but
I,
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
concerns.
Not
only
with
my
colleague
on
the
subcommittee,
but
also
with
the
former
members
of
the
CAC
and
the
greater
community
that
there
are
details
that
we
are
still
undoubtedly
probably
going
to
have
to
argue
and
fight
for.
M
M
D
Equal
seventh
Avenue
I
gave
the
council
and
mark
Simon
a
copy
of
some
of
my
concerns,
but
I'm
just
going
to
touch
on
to,
but
I
don't
want
to
nitpick
what?
What
part
of
the
will?
The
original
CAC
play
to
assure
that
their
original
recommendations
are
met.
They
talked
about
they.
The
original
CAC
recommendations
will
be
considered,
but
is
there
any
community
input
to
from
that
group
going
forward
or
whatever
they
have
turned
in
is
where
it
is,
and
there
will
there
be
any
any
follow-through.
D
My
bigger
question
is
and
I
think
Clara
showed
in
in
one
of
the
slides,
the
the
JP
be,
and
the
city
agree
that
certain
design
elements
as
presented
by
the
CAC
will
be
included
if
technically
feasible,
but
there's
a
second
reference
in
the
staff
package
that
says
technically,
feasible
or
financially
feasible
and
I
think
when
they
put
that
financially
feasible
in
there.
What
one
of
the
scenarios
is
the
JPB
is
going
to
come
back
and
say:
we've
only
got
so
much
money.
D
N
Good
evening,
I'm
mark
Simon
executive
officer
for
public
affairs
for
caltrain.
First
of
all,
me
just
congratulate
mr.
Elaine
and
gradually
Larry
frenzel
on
remarkable
turn.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
service
and
Jim.
Thank
you
for
all
this.
For,
but
you're
going
to
provide
the
caltrain
staff
concurs
with
the
recommendation
of
the
city
staff
and
urges
the
board
to
the
council.
Excuse
me:
let's
meet
before
boards.
All
the
time
urges
the
council
to
approve.
The
resolution
is
described
by
your
staff.
We
have
been
working
and
we
appreciate
city
manager
jackson's
description
of
our
relationship.
N
Mr
ybarra
I
think
it's
significant.
This
is
for
sixty-five
percent
designed,
there's
still
I,
don't
think
was
ever
intended
to
be
something
you
wouldn't
bring
to
you
at
a
hundred
percent
design.
I
think
that
would
be
inappropriate
to
bring
you
essentially
a
done
deal.
Most
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
work
out
are
not
dissimilar
from
issues.
We've
already
worked
out,
sometimes
on
very
short
timeframe,
as
ms
fabry
described.
N
N
A
N
N
So
there's
no
question
that
will
be
one
of
the
factors
and
whether
it's
technically
feasible
is
one
of
the
issues
that
we
continue
to
address
with
the
city
staff,
and
there
are
times
when
they'll
convince
us
that
something
is
more
feasible
than
we
thought
it
was.
These
are
all
things
that
are
subject
to
negotiation.
As
for
the
role
of
the
CAC,
I
really
think
that's
up
to
the
council
and
staff
to
decide.
Certainly,
there's
no
question
the
CAC
an
extensive,
almost
unprecedented
participation
in
this
experience
in
this
design.
N
From
the
outset,
we
have
adopted
virtually
all
of
their
recommendations
and
I
believe
it's
really
the
responsibility
of
the
city
staff
and
the
council
to
make
sure
that
these
things
are
follow
through
on.
In
my
experience,
preparing
for
before
this
council.
Is
you
don't
need
me
to
tell
you
what
those
responsibilities
are
you're
very
mindful
of
them,
and
you've
been
very
aware
of
the
need
to
fulfill
them?
Thank.
B
K
Alice
Barnes
Fifth
Avenue,
honorable
mayor
councilmembers
boy
did
you
just
hear
him
say
quote
our
best
interests
and
he
did
mean
that
joint
powers
board
caltrain.
He
did
not
mean
the
city
council's
best
interest
or
San
Bruno's,
and
he
also
made
a
misstatement
and
when
he
said
that
the
recommendations
that
were
made
by
the
CAC
have
been
incorporated
in
the
sixty-five
percent.
I
sent
you
folks
a
letter
last
night
with
13.
K
Points
where
they
are
not
living
up
to
the
CAC
I'll,
give
you
one
real
quick
example.
Here
we
wanted
750
foot
long
platforms
on
First
Avenue,
that's
going
to
stick
out
atop
a
20-foot
wall
at
the
curb
for
four
tracks.
It's
going
to
stick
out
over
First
Avenue
ten
feet
and
suddenly,
in
this
sixty-five
percent,
they
have
added
a
future
possibility
of
200
f50
more
feet.
K
K
I
truly
believe
they
will
be
collaborative,
like
our
city
manager
said
I
believe
that
we're
going
to
negotiate
like
mark
Simon
said.
Did
you
just
hear
how
many
trees
we're
going
to
have
on
First
Avenue?
There's
not
a
damn
tree
from
Angus
south
on
First
Avenue
and
the
reason
is
I
I,
better
quit,
but
I
do
end.
K
Did
hear
you
but
the
the
the
problem
with
the
plan
is
we
on
a
CAC
we're
going
for
a
four
track
footprint
and
then
they
came
back
to
us
years
ago
and
said
we're
going
to
do
two
tracks
now.
They're
back
is
up
against
the
wall
and
they
need
that
10
million
dollars
so
we're
being
rushed
and
what
the
engineers
have
done
in
the
project
design.
Is
they
put
a
two
track
in
with
all
kinds
of
accoutrements
that
are
over?
K
On
that
other
side,
the
First
Avenue
side
and
they're
telling
us
we're
going
to
have
a
phase
24
for
tracks
well
to
go
from
two
to
four
tracks.
They
will
have
to
demolish
millions
of
dollars
of
enhancements
as
structual
at
the
whatever
they
will
have
to
demolish
that
and
then
build
the
four-track
folks
they
if
they
lose
the
10
million
dollars.
I'm
sorry,
but
you,
taxpayers
and
I
taxpayer
are
going
to
save
more
than
10
million
dollars
at
not
doing
these
things
at
not
tearing
them
down.
K
B
F
You
I
think,
first
of
all,
after
the
last
comments,
I
think
we
need
some
clarification
on
exactly
what
is
happening,
because
my
understanding
is
it's
going
to
be
a
one,
complete
construction
phase
and
that
after
everything
is
built,
there
will
be
room
to
add
two
more
tracks.
My
understanding
is
not
that
they
are
going
to
build
something
with
two
tracks
and
then
come
back,
tear
things
down
and
add
a
second
set
of
tracks.
So
could
we
please
clarify
that
by
whoever
wants
to.
O
O
F
O
O
O
N
Let
me
add
separate
the
idea
here
is
that
by
the
time
we're
in
the
position
where
we
have
to
make
this
decision,
we
will
know
whether
high-speed
rail
is
coming
or
not.
If
it
doesn't
come,
then
we
shouldn't
build
four
tracks,
we
don't
know
yet
we
don't
have
the
money
we'd.
Rather,
if
we're
going
to
build
the
second
set
of
tracks
at
high
speed
rail
pay
for
it
not
us,
so
we're
designing
a
two-track
structure
that
can
be
expanded
to
four
tracks,
but
it
will
not
at
the
outset,
be
a
four-track
structure.
N
A
N
F
The
cameras
picking
up
doing
that
so
therefore
I've
been
looking
at
the
design,
the
sixty-five
percent
design
documents
and
for
anyone
who
hasn't
seen
them
there.
It's
a
pile
of
documents
this
thick
and
this
big
and
the
print
on
it,
is
as
small.
It's
not
a
12.
It
has
to
be
a
10
font,
it's
small,
so
it
takes
a
while
to
dig
it
all
out
and
try
to
figure
out.
F
F
We
don't
want
anyone
coming
through
our
town,
doing
a
huge
construction
project,
two
tracks
for
tracks
whatever
and
then
coming
back
later
and
tearing
part
of
it
apart
and
adding
more
to
it,
so
that
that's
a
concern
and
we'd
like
to
hear
from
from
you
emphatically
that
that
is
not
going
to
happen.
That.
F
So
that
makes
sure
that's
on
the
public
record,
as
secondly,
I
understand
the
sixty-five
percent
planning.
It
I
understand
that
you
can
and
cannot
do
certain
things
right
now,
because
there's
other
decisions
that
are
being
made:
I'm
I'm
a
new
member
of
the
high
speed
rail
policy
committee.
There's
all
things
happening
with
that
and
I
understand
that.
There's
steps
that
you
can't
step
on
each
other's
toes
and
and
there's
phases
to
do.
Okay,
however,
Mike
one
of
my
big
concerns.
F
Besides
the
fact
that
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
how
the
storm
drain
water
is
going
to
be
moved
back
and
forth,
my
parents
live
right
down
there.
I
also
want
to
know
that
any
engineering
decisions
that
are
being
made
now
and
up
to
the
hundred
percent
will
not
preclude
any
aesthetics
that
were
promised
in
landscaping.
That
was
promised
for
First
Avenue
on
the
east
side
and
part
of
how
I
read
the
plans
is:
there's
a
lot
of
wonderful,
looking
things
on
the
west
side
of
the
tracks
and
the
station's.
F
There's
the
fountains
and
the
this
and
the
bat,
but
I've
noticed
that
there's
nothing
much
printed
on
the
east
side,
and
also
it
doesn't
look
like
there
was
any
consideration
and
I
could
be
wrong
because
I
haven't
been
studying
the
plans
all
that
long,
any
consideration
to
moving
shifting
the
whole
thing
over
five
feet
and
allowing
for
the
landscaping
on
the
east
side
of
First,
Avenue
and
I
know
when
I
say
that
sounds
really
simple.
To
do
that.
F
C
F
O
O
Is
not
technically
viable
to
get
all
four
tracks
by
shifting
everything
to
the
West,
but
we
did
look
at
all
possible
alternatives
to
shifting
it
so
that
wasn't
viable
in
regards
to
planting
or
to
any
kind
of
treatment
along
first
avenue.
That's
actually
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
city
right
now
on
the
city
is
specifically
brought
up
that
issue
as
being
one
of
the
items
they're
interested
in
is
possibly
incorporating
some
trees
or
some
other
kind
of
planting
along
there.
O
It's
specifically
excluded
in
the
MOU,
not
because
this
is
something
we're
not
agreeing
with
the
city
on.
Rather
it's
because
at
65
we
didn't
want
to
present
a
fez
accompli.
This
is
what
we're
going
to
do.
You
know,
love
it
or
leave
it
quite
the
opposite.
We're
working
with
the
city
you've
obtained
a
consult,
we're
working
with
that
consultant
and
with
staff
to
develop
exactly
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
So
we're
well
aware
that
that's
a
concern
that
city
has
and
that's
something
that
we're
we're
going
to
take
into
account
to
the
ninety-five
percent.
O
F
I
understand
all
those
things
and
it's
it's
hard
to
reconcile
what
you
just
said
to
some
of
the
plans
that
I
saw
that
show
a
three-dimensional
drawing
of
the
trash
can
is
going
to
go
on
the
station.
So
I'll
take
your
answer
for
what
it
is.
But
I
really
hope
that
you
don't
come
back
and
and
tell
us
that
there's
not
going
to
be
landscaping
on
them
or
seven.
You
I.
N
Understand
your
concerns
of
you,
don't
confuse
a
rendering
with
a
final
design.
Okay,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
to
be
done
still,
that's
the
whole
point,
others
MOU,
it's
really
a
structure
for
us
to
go
forward.
It's
it's!
No
different
than
the
decision
you
made.
I
think
it
was
back.
Log
is
29.
According
to
the
slide,
this
is
essentially
memorializing.
H
It
Jerry
yeah
just
a
couple
of
quick
comments
in
general.
The
MOU
is,
is
fine,
I
understand
completely
that
you
don't
have
all
the
answers
now,
but
I
guess.
A
lot
of
this
has
for
me
to
do
with
a
matter
of
trust,
and
you
came
to
us
a
number
of
years
ago
and
we
talked
to
you
about
deaths
occurring
at
that
at
that
site.
What
are
we
going
to
do
and
I
think
you
were
actually
based
on
prior
experience
with
this
prior
councils?
H
You
were
actually
very
happy
that
we
were
willing
to
work
with
you
and
we
started
the
CAC
process.
Long,
laborious
hard
fun
process
and
I
have
to
congratulate
Robert
and
Alice
for
being
a
very
integral
part
of
that
whole
operation,
and
we
came
together
and
worked
with
you
and
developed
what
we
thought
was
going
to
be
a
real
first-class.
H
If
you
will
and
trying
to
make
this
happen
in
a
cooperative
way.
I
do
in
fact
think
it'll
all
work
out.
I,
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
every
little
tiny
thing
that
we
would
want
on
the
wish
list,
but
we
have
assurances
and
elevators.
We
have
assurances
and
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
sort
of
in
question
even
just
a
few
months
ago,
so
I
just
want
to
bring
that
up.
Thank.
N
You
I
appreciate
that
I
know
that
was
so
similar
its
concern
expressed
by
councilmember
medina
the
last
time.
I
was
here.
It
is
an
issue
of
trust
and
it
works
both
ways.
We're
trusting
that
we
can
work
these
issues
out
in
a
way
that
allows
this
project
to
go
forward
in
a
timely
way.
The
thing
that
we're
very
nervous
about
is
the
same
tight
timeframe,
that's
troubling
to
everybody,
so
we're
taking
it
on
trust
that
that
there
isn't
going
to
be
a
month
of
delay
and
finalizing
this
agreement.
N
H
L
H
B
I
I
Maybe
we
need
to
put
you
know
we
could
need
to
go
over
some
of
that
stuff
from
the
PSR
and
yeah
and
and
see
what
may
you
know
to
at
least
pacify
us
that
these
things
will
not
be
lost
in
the
final
design
that
they
go
within
the
MOU.
Along
with
you
know
the
drainage
issues
thanks
so
I
mean
I,
think
you
hadn't.
We
had
no
problem,
placing
the
elevator
issue
or
the
fountains
issue,
or
they
think
within
this
MOU,
even
though
they're
well
past.
I
N
J
Zoo
the
chair
I'm,
just
obviously
there
are
changes,
have
been
made.
Their
questions
have
been
raised.
There's
things
that
should
be
placed
in
the
MOU.
Trust
is
an
important
thing,
but
there's
a
obviously
former
president
said
trust
but
verify.
Why
would
we
not
want
to
postpone
the
MOU
for
two
weeks
to
allow
some
of
the
modifications
and
updates
to
it
so
that
it's
all
presented
before
us
in
its
entirety,
rather
than
going
forward
with
some
of
the
changes
already
have
occurred?
F
N
We're
just
worried
about
you
about
the
time
frame,
yeah
two
more
weeks
and
then
there's
are
going
to
be
two
more
weeks
after
that
and
at
what
point
does
it
get
to
the
point
where
we
can't
do
this?
One
of
the
elements
of
our
discussion
prior
to
tonight's
resolution
was
a
commitment
from
the
city
that
this
was
not
going
to
take
a
couple
of
more
weeks
week.
We're
spending
a
million
dollars
a
week.
N
If
we're
not
going
to
get
these
things
done
and
done
quickly,
then
we
have
to
ask
and
I
hate
to
say
this,
because
I
don't
want
to
put
the
council
I,
don't
want
to
seem
like
I'm
putting
the
council
in
this
kind
of
a
position,
but
it's
the
position.
We
are
in
that.
If
we
don't
move
forward
on
this,
then
there's
some
question
about
whether
or
not
we
can
get
this
done
in
a
way
that
meets
the
deadlines
we
have
and
it
meets
the
requirements
that
we
need
to
meet
and.
J
I
appreciate
what
you
said
so
if
the
council
were
to
give
you
or
I
gave
you
my
word
and
say
trust
us
that
in
two
weeks,
when
you
came
back
that,
we
would
feel
that
everything
would
be
fine
to
approve.
Is
that
that
time
frame
of
the
two
weeks
is
still
of
a
considerable
challenge
and
a
problem
for
the
current
project?
It's.
N
It's
a
concern.
I
mean
we're
talking
we're
trying
to
we're
talking
to
city
about
days,
not
weeks
to
try
and
get
this
mou
resolved
and
the
remaining
issues
that
we
have
to
get
to
get
this
thing
signed
resolved.
That
leaves
still
other
issues
that
we
will
continue
to
work
on,
but
it
is
troubling
to
us
that
we're
not
able
to
get
moving
on
this
in
we
get
working
very
hard
already
excuse.
F
You
I
understand
the
point
of
the
two
more
weeks,
but
they've
made
very
public
statements
and
we
have
it
on
record
and
I
know
we'll
have
it
in
the
minutes
that
they're
asking
us
to
trust
them.
They're
asking
us
to
work
with
them.
We've
had
people
listening
very
closely
and
all
the
council's
listening
we
can
and
if
I'm
understanding
right,
we
can
add
things
tonight
to
change
this.
F
If
we
need
to-
or
we
can
add
a
line
saying
including
the
considerations
that
we
that
were
voiced
tonight
or
let
that
be
part
of
the
minutes
and
just
move
on
I,
don't
I
didn't
make
my
comments
with
the
intention
of
delaying
things.
I
only
made
that
my
comments
to
make
public
and
to
assure
people
that
you
are
working
with
us,
we're
working
with
you
and
that
those
things
weren't
swept
under
the
rug
and
forgotten
it's
a
very
small
part
of
our
town.
F
H
A
Was
just
going
to
mention
that
or
say
that
I
think
staff
has
a
real
good
idea
of
what
the
CAC
wants.
What
has
been
done,
what
the
concerns
are
and
the
reports
that
have
come
back-
aren't
surprising
that
the
JPB
has
been
very
cooperative
and
were,
and
working
and
diligently
to
get
things
done,
and
yes,
I
understand
that
you
have
an
interest,
and
so
I
know
that
you
understand
that
we
also
have
an
interest
and
you're
going
to
have
to
hit
some
kind
of
medium
ground
and
everyone's
not
going
to
get
everything
they
want.
A
But
I
think
it
is
a
real
time
constraint.
That's
been
placed
on
them
because
of
the
funding.
That's
there
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
have
any
problem,
or
at
least
I,
don't
have
any
problem,
giving
the
city
manager
authority
to
enter
into
the
mou,
making
those
necessary
changes,
and
if
she
can't
get
those
changes
made
then
we'll
see
in
two
weeks.
Okay
I
mean,
then
you
don't
want
to
be
here
in
two
weeks:
work
a
little
bit
later
and
get
her
more
satisfied
and
get
a
signature
quicker.
A
J
Remember,
Medina
I
can
appreciate
what
what
is
being
said.
Maybe
that's
why
you're?
The
mayor
of
course,
is
I
understand
your
situation,
that
we
have
our
situation,
we're
not
going
to
get
everything
we
want
and
it's
going
to
work
both
ways,
and
we
understand
that
we
spoke
before,
and
obviously
actions
speak
louder
than
words.
J
I
can
go
along
with
what
the
mayor
is
saying
is
that
we
could
enter
into
the
agreement
with
those
changes
and
modifications
made
to
the
mou
by
the
manager
and
if
it
doesn't
meet
the
expectations
and
what
you've
heard
here
this
evening,
then
I
would
agree
you're
back
in
two
weeks
and
I
think
then
the
trust
factor
will
really
be
tested
on
both
sides.
I.
N
J
A
A
B
P
J
P
No
trains
but
one
chair,
and
we
will
turn
that
chair
to
a
bench
eventually
yeah.
Approximately
five
years
ago,
the
last
piece
of
playground
equipment
were
removed
from
catalpa
Park
due
to
the
fact
that
they
no
longer
met
the
National
playground
safety
standards.
During
the
consideration
of
immediately
reinstalling
equipment,
a
USA
survey
revealed
a
30-inch
gas
line.
P
Pg&Amp;E
regulations
prohibit
the
installation
of
any
hard
surface,
including
playground
equipment
directly
on
the
gas
line
over
the
gas
line
or
within
five
feet
of
the
gas
line
on
either
side
and
a
blue
line
here
depicts
the
area
of
the
gas
line,
plus
the
five
foot
sections
on
either
side.
Two
years
ago,
the
Commission
held
public
discussions
regarding
improvements
to
the
property
and
upon
hearing
a
discrepancy
of
opinions
from
the
residents
in
the
area.
The
Commission
recommended
no
action
at
that
time.
P
Last
year,
the
Commission
continued
discussions
of
the
site
and,
in
the
in
june
july
of
this
year,
held
held
public
meetings,
invited
public
to
come
and
after
hearing
from
over
a
dozen
speakers
and
considering
multiple
options
for
the
site,
both
for
the
vacant
lot
and
for
this,
the
basketball
court.
That
is
directly
across
the
street
from
it.
The
commissioners
made
a
motion
and
proved
a
motion
to
restore
the
lot
as
a
playground.
P
The
plan
was
developed
with
playground
equipment.
It
was
presented
to
the
joint
meeting
of
the
City
Council
and
the
park
and
recreation
commission
in
September
council
members
spoke
in
favor
of
the
playground
concept
could
ask
staff
to
develop
a
lower
cost
option.
A
scaled-back
plan
was
approved
by
the
Commission
in
October,
and
that
plan
includes
surfacing
equipment,
installation,
signage
bench,
trash
receptacle
and
the
surfacing
of
this
basketball
court.
P
The
plan
that
was
presented
to
the
Commission
is
in
keeping
with
our
other
playgrounds
at
some
of
the
other
pocket
parks,
and
here
at
seventh
and
walnut,
you
can
see
the
one
piece
of
equipment
with
the
with
the
single
swing
set
here
at
fleetwood
same
thing.
This
would
be
similar
to
what
would
be
considered
a
Catawba
with
a
single
piece
of
equipment
and
the
swing
set.
P
And,
lastly,
at
hermann
park
with
the
single
piece
of
equipment
and
the
swing
set,
staffs
recommendation
is
to
support
the
commission's
recommendation
to
rebuild
the
lot
as
a
playground
and
to
place.
The
item
in
the
2010-2011
CIP
budget-
and
there
are
members
of
both
the
commission
and
the
public
who
spoke
at
the
at
the
account
at
the
Commission
meetings
they're,
both
here
in
our
audience
tonight
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
P
Would
be
presenting
this
plan
here.
This
is,
it
would
be
the
single
piece
of
equipment
with
the
swing
set.
The
other
piece,
the
other
proposed
that
we
presented
the
joint
meeting
had
a
couple
more
piece
of
apparatus
that
were
included.
This
is
this
is
more
in
keeping
with
the
with
the
cost
considerations
the
council
made
it.
That
means,
but
the
generally.
A
J
J
P
Cost
or
the
the
equipment
is
about
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
The
cost
of
the
paving
was
around
twelve
thousand
dollars.
The
rest
of
the
costs
include
the
curbing
if
it
would
go
around
the
playground,
the
surfacing,
which
would
be
the
Phi
bar
type
material,
so
that
would
handle
the
rest
of
the
costs
where
the
the
total
cost
of
the
project
would
be
roughly
forty
seven
thousand
dollars.
We
would
be
coming
back
with
roughly
a
fifty-thousand-dollar
budget
for
the
entire
project,
22,000.
A
B
O
O
A
Spend
we're
going
to
spend
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
on
the
truck
faster
than
we're
going
to
build
a
park
for
50,000.
Why
can't
we
just
get
a
design
and
move
forward?
I
mean
if
you
put
it
in
the
2010-2011
capital
improvement
budget,
you're
now
not
going
to
have
it
the
budget
until
next
June
so
nothing's
going
to
happen
for
the
first
half
a
year,
then
we
probably
need
a
half
a
year
to
start
planning.
A
Then
we'll
probably
have
a
couple
more
meetings,
a
couple,
more
hearings,
and
next
thing
you
know
we're
going
to
decide
the
money's
not
there
and
we're
going
to
move
on
to
something
else.
When
it
sit
there
I
mean
there's.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
fifty
thousand
dollars
isn't
a
lot
of
money
when
looking
at
recreation
when
there's
hasn't
been
any
recreation.
Therefore,
he
said
two
years
ago
we
took
the
equipment
out
by.
A
Q
Q
Oh
we're
working
on
it
and
then
the
next
book
came
out
and
the
playground
equipment
was
gone,
but
there
was
a
bend
sure
there
was
eventually
there
is
no
catalpa
topping
nothing
in
your
booklets
for
the
last
three
four
books,
but
there
is
a
basketball
court
there
and
it
is
used
pretty
much
on
a
daily
basis.
So
when
you're
saying
that
this
hasn't
been
used
in
a
couple
of
years,
yes,
it
has
and
the
empty
lot
that's.
There
is
at
present
being
used
as
a
dog
park.
Q
I
went
by
there
today
and
I
took
pictures
and
I
can
show
them
to
you.
They're
on
my
camera
of
dog,
waste
of
weeds,
probably
23
feet
high,
but
across
the
street
at
the
police
records
building
that
property
is
kept
perfectly
its
mode,
it's
not
being
maintained
as
a
resident
of
rollingwood
I'm
disappointed
in
the
way
that
this
has
been
handled
over
the
last
few
years.
Q
Q
B
G
B
Kids
grew
up
playing
in
that
park.
My
grandkids
when
they
come
up
to
visit
I
used
to
play
in
the
park.
I've,
listened
to
all
your
major
problems
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
a
day
for
an
hour
and
a
half
and
I
don't
see
why
in
the
world
you
just
can't
spend
the
money.
Take
this
little
part,
get
it
fixed
and
get
it
off
your
agenda
I.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
B
Then
why
wasn't
I
own
way,
Sam
Brown
I?
Also
thank
you
lie.
That's
the
first
time
I've
ever
heard
anyone
say
you
know
what
we
should
have
a
few
dollars
in
the
Sun
bring
a
budget
Sonny
five
thousand
dollars
to
do
a
little
park.
We've
been
waiting
for
years.
It's
an
absolute
disgrace.
We
get
dogs
running
over
this
and,
like
my
wife
said,
we
can't
even
get
the
weeds
mode.
We
went
to
park
and
right
meetings
are,
are
they
there
were
not
permission
means?
What
are
they
hold?
I
mean
whatever
they
were.
B
Commission
Commission
me
check.
They
promised
us
that
they
would
keep
the
weeds
done.
It
hasn't
happened,
I
mean
technically
by
tomorrow.
You'll
see
it
it's.
It's
so
simple,
we're
not
that
hard
to
keep
happy,
but
we
will
long
enough.
We
like
a
park
by
please
spend
a
few
dollars.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Through.
J
The
chair,
raveena,
I,
would
say
I've
heard
from
a
couple
other
folks
in
regards
to
the
weeds
and
a
lot
as
well,
that
the
facility
across
the
street
is
maintained,
but
if
they're
right
there,
why
can't
they
go
across
the
street
and
maintain
that
law
that
the
city
owns
again?
The
city
needs
to
lead
by
example,
with
its
properties.
If
we're
going
to
ask
residents
to
do
the
same,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
can
obviously
maybe
look
into
that
tomorrow
and
ensure
the
residents
that
it
can
be
taken
care
of.
J
At
the
same
time,
when
we're
maintaining
across
the
street
were
already
in
the
vicinity,
I
would
agree
to
I
think
they
I
know.
This
goes
back,
I
might
even
been
on
the
park
and
rec
Commission
when
the
apparatus
was
taken
out
because
of
the
concerns,
and
then
it
was
not
put
in
the
phase
I
believe
too,
and
now
it's
been
brought
back
up
and
that's.
I
And
I'd
like
to
also
just
echo
that
we
take
a
lesson
from
the
familiar
Park
and
Rec
Commission,
because
they
they
went
through
a
good,
a
good
process
and
they
heard
from
the
you
know
from
the
neighborhood
and
they
could
have
gone
on
longer
in
discussing
this
and
the
Commission
decided,
let's
move
forward
and
make
our
recommendation
and
go
to
the
council
and
let
them
delay
it
and
I.
Think
and
I
think
we
almost
I
think
it.
I
A
I
R
A
R
There
are
three
different
areas.
The
first
has
to
do
with
a
consistency.
Finding
in
many
people
do
not
know,
but
currently,
within
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
a
majority
of
additions
do
not
go
through
architectural
review.
The
only
reason
they
go
through
architectural
review
is
if
they
exceed
certain
thresholds.
R
If
not
it's
a
non-discretionary
process,
it
goes
straight
through
a
building
permit
straight
to
a
building
permit,
and
although
the
planners
do
a
good
job
of
recommending
changes
to
the
to
the
homeowners
to
make
the
home
look
better,
there's
nothing
in
with
the
code
within
the
code.
That
requires
those
architectural
changes
to
be
made,
and
that
was
actually
one
of
the
first
recommendations
of
the
subcommittee
was
that
these
residential
design
guidelines
should
apply
to
all
editions
that
affect
the
exterior
of
a
building.
R
The
second
part
of
this
area
is
that
these
the
same
finding
for
approval
would
have
to
be
made
by
the
Planning
Commission
for
all
discretionary
/
missa.
Currently,
the
Planning
Commission
has
to
make
five
to
10,
depending
on
the
type
of
permit
findings
for
approval,
and
this
would
be
another
one
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
basic
design
principles
found
within
the
code,
the
second
door
found
within
the
residential
design
guidelines.
The
second
area
that
we
would
like
to
look
at
is
parking
requirements
for
small
homes.
R
Currently,
if
you
build
any
home
regardless
of
the
size
and
regardless
of
the
size,
a
lot
that
it's
on
you're
required
to
put
a
two-car
garage
on
it
now.
This
complicates
issues,
because
we
have
many
five
foot:
wide
lots
and
substandard
Laden.
The
definition
of
a
substandard
lies
anything
less
than
5,000
square
feet.
R
We
have
many
substandard
lots
of
in
san
bruno,
where,
if
you
put
a
two-car
garage
on
it,
it
makes
for
a
really
ugly
design,
because
you
either
have
a
two-car
wide
garage
that
takes
up
the
entire
width
of
the
lot
or
you
have
to
put
in
a
tandem
garage
that
ends
up
making
an
awkward
first
floor
plan.
That's
basically
unusable,
maybe
a
family
room
and
back
and
all
the
living
area
upstairs.
R
What
is
unique
is
that
it's
actually
inconsistent
with
our
requirement
for
existing
homes.
Currently,
our
requirement
for
existing
homes
is,
if
you
currently
have
a
one-car
garage-
and
you
don't
exceed
that
1825
foot
wide
lot,
a
25-foot
floor
area
plan-
you
don't
have
to
put
a
second
car
garage.
So
what
we're
recommending
here
is
that
the
to
be
remain
consistent
and
that
if
you
are
building
a
new
home
on
a
substandard
lot,
you
keep
it
under
hunt
about
1825
square
foot.
R
R
The
third
area
policy
area
has
to
do
with
front
yard,
paving
and
landscaping,
and
although
it
is
always
the
community
expectation
that
no
one
concrete
over
their
whole
front
yard,
there's
nothing
within
the
code
that
the
details
that
expectation
and
it
to
achieve
this
staff
has
identified
three
different
options
within
these
within
the
staff
report
and
presenting
to
the
city
council
tonight
how
we
can
meet
that
objective.
A
little
bit
of
background.
Currently
the
Municipal
Code
requires
that
at
least
no
more
than
eighty
percent
of
your
lot
is
impervious
surface.
R
So
there
has
to
be
at
least
twenty
percent
pervious
surface
on
your
lot,
which,
in
pervious
service,
allows
rain
water
to
drip
through
to
the
ground
and
not
end
up
in
our
stormwater
system.
We
also
have
a
15-percent
landscaping
requirement,
but
what
our
code
does
not
point
out
is
where
that
landscaping
and
where
that
pervious
surface
has
to
be
so
someone
if
they
have
a
large
backyard,
a
large
side
yard
to
make
further
whole
landscaping
requirement
in
their
side,
yard
and
backyard
and
then
pave
over
the
front
young.
R
So
with
that
in
mind,
we're
proposing
three
different
options.
The
first,
which
is
the
staff
recommended
option,
is
that
we
amend
the
impervious
surface
requirement
to
specify
that
front
yards
cannot
be
entirely
paved
over
and
apply
that
new
requirement
to
all
properties
within
the
city.
We
have
not
gone.
The
residential
design
guidelines
specify
a
certain
amount
and
we
make
that
a
consistent
amount
so
that
someone
could
not
pave
over
their
whole
entire
front
yard.
R
But
what
we
would
use
is
the
term
impervious
surface
and
that
would
allow
different
pavers
to
be
used,
not
necessarily
living
plant
material,
but
it
would
require
something
that
allows
rainwater
to
go
into
the
ground
and
also
allows
some
type
of
aesthetic
issues
to
be
addressed.
The
second
point-
and
the
second
option
would
be
amend
the
code
to
require
that
primary,
primarily
living
plant
material
be
found
within
the
front
yard
at
the
same
percentage.
R
So
this
would
not
allow
for
pervious
pavers
to
be
helpmeet
that
percentage
and
would
require
that
it
be
all
living
plant
materials
and
the
third
option
is
kind
of
the
leave
it
alone
option
and
that
we
do
not
specify
it
within
the
municipal
code.
We
just
let
it
go
and
we
just
have
it
within
the
residential
design
guideline
document
and
it
wouldn't
be
replicated
within
the
municipal
code.
R
So
those
are
the
three
areas
of
policy
that
we'd
like
to
review
with
you
tonight,
we're
going
to
be
giving
the
same
presentation
to
the
Planning
Commission
next
Tuesday
to
also
get
their
feedback
and
then
ultimately
bring
it
up
to
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
city
council
for
review.
So
I
could
take
any
questions
at
this
time
and
laura's
also
from.
J
R
You
could
work
with,
but
I
think
you're
making
a
good
point
that
when
you
get
some
of
these
san
francisco
style
homes
that
maybe
have
a
three
foot
setback
or
five
foot
setback,
you
don't
have
that
much
to
work
with
and
you
you
know
you
want
a
part
of
the
area
to
walk
in
there
to
get
to
your
home
and
there
might
be.
You
know
there
might
be
other
issues
there
too.
I
To
the
chair
on
the
same
subject
at
like
a
little
more
elaboration
on
trees,
I
know
with
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
go
through
use,
permit
process.
Many
of
the
projects
are
required
to
provide
a
new
tree
and
it's
not
really
stated
water
to
be
anything
but
just
data
that
there
is
an
inn
Luffy
or
that
you.
P
I
R
R
It's
my
understanding.
The
law
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
This
recommendation
would
be
that
you
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
pervious
surface
within
your
front
yard,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily,
I
think
I
use
the
word
incorrectly.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
Polly
bean
plant
material,
but
it
has
to
be
something
that
allow
water
to
drain
to
the
ground,
rather
than
taking
it
to
our
stormwater
system.
Right.
F
Exactly
when
we
do
things
when
you
look
at
how
that
might
work
out,
I
strongly
think
that
there
should
be
some
kind
of
living,
even
if
it's
a
tree
or
a,
but
you
know
some
kind
of
greenery,
even
though
the
surfaces
maybe
pervious
and
allow
rainwater
be
something
green
in
front
on
the
side
issue.
Why
I
have
you
when
we're
going
through
when
you
go
through
the
guidelines?
Is
there
any
method
that
anyone
looking
through
this
is
going
to
be
able
to
tell
at
a
glance
what
is
required
in
what
is
recommended?
F
R
Actually,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
think
that's
something
that
if
the
council
would
all
agree
that
we
can
incorporate
some
type
of
legend
of
some
type
of
summary
sheet
that
at
least
goes
over
the
requirements
of
the
city
code
and
then
also
shows
that
these
are
other
design
characteristics
that
you
could
implement
in
order
to
meet
the
basic
design
principles
within
the
design.
Guideline
attitude.
A
Just
on
that
item
I
think
it's
real
important,
because
the
valid
point,
the
only
thing
I
would
hate
to
see
happen-
is
that
something
color
coded
were
someone
then
looking
at
it
says.
Oh
only
the
blue
items
are
what
I
have
to
do
is
I,
don't
even
have
to
read
the
other
items
or
give
them
consideration.
F
Even
italics
I
don't
know
somebody
must
have
done
it
somewhere,
but
but
some
kind
of
consideration
that
way
and
then
also
on
this-
and
these
have
been
percolating
through
my
mind,
with
the
the
sustainability
that
you
have
in
here
in
the
guidelines
which
I
think
are
great,
can
we
also
think
of
some
kind
of
carrot
to
go
with
this?
We
often
think
of
penalties
and
fines.
If
people
don't
do
things,
but
maybe
there
is
some
kind
of
you
get
ten
percent
off
your
planning
fee
permit
fee.
K
You
Barnes
First,
Avenue,
I,
apologize,
I
stepped
out
and
I
did
not
get
the
beginning
of
your
presentation,
but
I
have
seen
people
flat-out,
take
up
the
grass
and
put
down
the
concrete
for
years
and
I
thought
of
that
same
problem.
Is
there
any
possibility
to
put
together
a
packet
with
some
of
this
information
and
hey.
L
K
F
A
R
F
I
B
I
Necessarily
all
at
once,
but
give
them
the
information
that
you
know
that
there
is.
You
know
a
lot
of
guidelines
here
that
need
to
be
followed
and
then
help
them
to
it,
and
then
also
the
fact
that
it
gets
followed
up
and
that
it
gets
enforced
yeah,
because
then
yours
truly
in
the
district
will
make
it
very
clear
to
these
homeowners,
along
with
the
contractors
things
that
no,
they
don't
have
the
free
rein
to
do
whatever
they
want.
I
A
B
Honorable
male
mayor
councilmembers,
thank
you
for
your
time,
I'm
here
tonight
to
recommend
the
participant,
no
service
truck
for
our
water
division,
the
vehicle
we're
replacing
as
a
1999a,
zuzu,
cab
and
chassis
with
utility
body.
This
vehicle
is
used
five
days
a
week
and
for
after-hours
emergency
repairs
performing
such
task
as
repairing
walking
water
mains
repair
and
replacement
of
water
services.
Meter
water
meter
has
balls
and
replacements
fire
hydrant
big
trouble,
repair
and
replacements.
At
the
time
this
vehicle
was
versus
purchase
most
of
our
large
jobs
for
performing
outside
contractors.
B
At
this
time,
over,
seventy
percent
of
our
jobs
are
performed
by
staff.
Therefore,
the
size
of
this
vehicle
is
not
suited
for
today's
daily
operation.
The
new
vehicle
will
have
a
larger
gross
vehicle
weight
and
be
able
to
carry
all
the
tools
and
supply,
but
the
staff
now
utilizes.
This
truck
will
have
a
tamper
holder
located
on
the
front
bumper,
which
will
drop
down
to
ground
level
for
easy
access
and
make
it
easier
on
our
employees
backs
and
prevent
some
of
the
injuries
we
see.
B
J
B
J
Mr.
Lin
I
want
to
receive
some
information
I
appreciate
the
follow
up.
I
wanted
to
know
how
much
this
was
being
utilized,
how
many
days
that
have
been
down
this
year,
what
the
cost
was
for
the
maintenance
for
the
year
to
this
vehicle
and
obviously
I'm
being
told
that
it
was
out
for
23
days
due
to
maintenance
repairs.
This
year
alone
is
a
vehicle
that
is
utilized
for
emergencies.
It
must
be
maintained
and
ready
and
with
the
new
apparatus
said
it
brings,
it
seems
that
it's
a
warranted
purchase
is
earning
any.
B
L
L
That
situation
is
continuing,
although
it
is
rapidly
moving
towards
completion
and,
as
I
previously
reported
to
you,
there
is
there.
There
was
initially
uncertainty
in
consideration
about
whether,
in
addition
to
the
main
line,
repairs
that
were
visibly
indicated
on
a
televised
tell
televising
surveillance
of
the
line,
once
leakage
was
identified,
that
there
may
also
be
indicated,
repairs
or
necessary
repairs
to
the
associated
laterals.
L
Further
advises
me
upon
my
specific
questioning
that,
while
there
has
been
an
observed,
significant
slowing
of
the
leakage
into
the
underground
vault,
which
precipitated
our
concern
about
necessary
repairs
that
whether
this
particular
repair
is
fully
the
cause
and
therefore
fully
resolves
that
leakage
situation
cannot
be
fully
and
completely
known
until
these
repairs
are
complete.
So
I
look
forward
also
to
being
able
to
advise
you
of
the
actual
conclusion
of
a
situation
that
is
obviously
of
concern
and
interest
to
the
city.
B
G
A
11
reports,
the
Commission
boards
and
committees,
ehrin
Adam,
12
comments
from
Council
members,
yeah
man
item
13,
the
City
Council
will
be
going
into
a
closed
session,
provide
direction
to
legal
counsel
regarding
potential
litigation
pursuant
to
get
California
government
code
section
5
49
56.9
be
one
from
there.
We'll
adjourn
to
the
meeting
to
be
held
on
November
24th
at
seven
o'clock
p.m.
A
here
at
San,
Bruno,
Senior,
Center
and
we'd
like
to
adjourn
this
evenings
meeting
with
a
moment
of
silence
in
memory
of
men
and
woman
who
lost
their
lives
at
Fort
Hood,
and
also
a
longtime
member
and
active
volunteer
here
at
the
Senior
Center
Tom
rogalski,
who
both
he
and
his
wife
of
60
years
Terry
were
very
active
at
the
center.
If
we
could
just
have
a
moment
of
silence,.