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San Bruno City Council Meeting
November 8, 2011 10c. Approve Parking Restrictions on Atlantic Ave. and Bayshore Circle North

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Item 10c adopt a resolution approving parking restrictions on Atlantic, Avenue and bayshore circle. North.

B

Honorable mayor and members of City Council, my name is Tina, saying associate civil engineer with public services department. I am here before you tonight to recommend adoption of new parking restrictions on Atlantic, Avenue and bayshore circle. North.

B

Currently, the north side of atlantic avenue between montgomery avenue and cemetery, a venir, a combination of no parking zone, driveway and loading zone. The fire department requested that the existing loading zone be replaced with us, be replaced as no parking zone, because when cars are park at this loading zone and at the regular parking across from this loading zone, their fire trucks and fire engine cannot safely pass through this section of Atlantic Avenue. If the City Council approved this change, the vehicles will not be able to park on the entire north side.

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Eventing avenue between Montgomery and San Mateo in stats, review of Fire Department's request staff felt. Removing the existing loading zone in a commercial area would happen, a negative impact to local businesses. The TSP see concur with staff evaluation and.

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Recommend the council to approve the existing loading zone to be removed, relocated apologize that the proposed loading zone is approximately 40 feet on the south side, Olympic Avenue and you be removed with to park regular parking spaces if approved, local business were notified of the TSP, see meeting and staff. We see no objection of the proposed parking restriction on Atlantic Avenue. The next parking restriction is on Bayshore circle north. As you are aware, ratio circle north is a narrow one way.

B

Locust tree begins at Herman Avenue and eventually converse with Huntington Avenue East, a local resident that lived in at the mid block of the street request at the north west corner of Herman and bayshore circle north be established as no parking zone, duties, concern of hitting or sideswiping park cars when making a left turn from herman avenue in staffs.

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Preliminary review staff expects that most drivers are exiting accessing this roadway listening the area and are familiar with the roller configuration and should be able to successfully and safely make this left turn and therefore, the staff did not recommend the tfcc to approve the no parking request, as requested by the resident.

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However, after public input hearing a public input, the tfcc felt, even though most driver could maneuver the turn at this intersection.

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New parking restriction could be established to increase driver confidence and improve safety due to the awkward role configuration.

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Therefore, they consider and recommend a shorter, no parking zone of pony fee at the potential impact location right in front of 80 base. Your circle north, the proposed no parking zone is about 20 feet and you will remove one regular parking space. The resident of 80 base your circle north has no objection and the fracas in favor of this parking restriction. That concludes our presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have any.

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Questions of staff.

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Denis mayor this one is: this is exactly how it was this afternoon. I mean it was a car park there, just like in the aerial and just like you described it, you have to do it it at about five miles an hour so that you don't hit the parked car or you don't hit. The curb so I think this is. This is a good solution here, yeah, there's limited parking on the street, but I mean there's no limited parking on the properties.

C

I mean you drive in that neighborhood and there's six cars and every property it's my question for Atlantic Avenue is again going out there this afternoon. No one parks on that north side anyway, I think there's a common knowledge that you can't get through if they park their or just seems doesn't make sense to park there, because it does almost block the street there's another block that was in there.

C

Isn't there the 200 block that goes to to the dead end or to the from Montgomery from Montgomery Montgomery West. That's.

B

Correct right, that's.

C

What I thought we were talking about because I saw the red, you know the red parking on on this 100 block and so I think I mean you've got don't you have the same issue on the 200 block, even though no one parks on the north side.

B

This request was brought up by the fire department, so they must have some previous experience when you're trying to get through this tree and they could not get through and once, if there's a potential fire event at this section of Atlantic Avenue, and if, for whatever reason that loading zone is being utilized they're, even please their access. We.

C

Have the identical same issue at the next block, which I builtin it might be, the 200 block, which is just west of Montgomery. It is a street because it does have a street sign there and yeah based.

D

On your comment, staff will follow up with the fire department and we assess the situation on the block. What you are mentioning consider my.

C

Only by only comment with that whole area is that I mean loading zones are only good at they're used as loading zones, and it's my experience seeing in that neighborhood that cars park and loading zones just like any other parking space. So if they want a loading zone, you know give it to him, but just know that the enforcement may not be always present for them to to make it all was available to those properties.

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Teacher rica, starting on atlantic council Rivera, was ur today, I was there this weekend and I had the same question too, because I saw it this weekend. Now again, it's the weekend, Saturday at Sunday manager points. Do you think people might be home too, but it was pretty clear on the street that we're looking at now. You want to go back one more then. Yes, that was congested, I would hate to see a fire apparatus try to get back there.

E

You had businesses and you have a resident that I could see an upstairs resident that reside on that area. The yellow zone is that for the two businesses that are nearby, which is a parts facility and a detailing.

B

Yes, but even though it's right next to those two businesses on other businesses could utilize that loading zone as well I.

E

Understand that, but is it primarily why it was initiated, is for those two businesses only or is it to serve. You know allegedly trucks going to pull up there and then unload and we'll the merchandise down the street around the corner or trying to say in the history of that, because when you look at it, there's a roll-up door on the proposed yellow side right where the yellow ends were they going to unload load across the street. They have a roll-up door that they can load and unload and pull into the driveway.

E

So I'm trying to understand the yellows owners to serve home.

B

Staff can go back and research on who initiated that request. Originally.

D

How how was presented previously staff recommendation for the loading zone to the south was to relocate the prior existence, loadings loading zone to the north, who, for how long that loading zone was at that location? Step, does not have information at this time, but will follow up with information for you. The intent relocating that loading zone was based on to accommodate the need and to the concern expressed by the businesses in that area.

F

If I could just ask, is that the council members interests that they loading zone be considered? Are you questioning whether there's a need for it at all yeah yeah.

E

And going down there and seeing if it's serve those two businesses specifically and they have roll-up doors, that they can pull a Bible in I'm questioning whether.

F

Or not to say not.

E

To relocate it yeah I can understand that but I'm trying to understand the value of who it's serving in that area, rather than we.

F

Could be so further work on that I think if it's the council's pleasure, what you could do is authorize the red curve for the entire length of the north side of the block and.

E

That's necessary you've.

F

Already been wrecked, it and we've already been asked to take a look at the 200 block and to consult with the fire department about that. We could defer if it's councils pleasure the establishment of the loading zone for further studies. So if that's your interest, we can. We can certainly take that action and do some further work with the business is in the immediate neighborhood to find out how necessary or desirable it is, and.

E

Then going to base your circle. Obviously that is always a concern. You know we have that my area that I wish would be shortened and then that would be more adequate for vehicles that travel. It's very tight and cars don't park on the street they park on the sidewalk and I, don't mean a little I mean most of the vehicle. I can understand why they're concerned about being hit.

E

You know accidentally I know when I was there if I was to make that turn on the green, that there were two trucks that were stick, this big trucks, sticking out quite out so now I'm thinking. Well, then we should have had read their grant at the parking. You don't want to restrict that too much either because I know it's it's. It's needed, I!

E

Think that area that addresses something, but it doesn't address the main issue of that area that has been ongoing and that again is the upkeep and the maintenance of his pain for that bayshore circle. I'll call the island, and it's also it would be ideal if we could get that and have it. You know shortened in size. So that there's more flow not only for the residents and getting by just trying to drive around there, but also for our emergency vehicles,.

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Irene, oh thank.

G

You I was just wondering why we're doing all this investigation is there any possibility of cutting into some of that because it is owned by caltrain or do we own I can't remember bayshore.

F

Circle yeah is owned by Bart Bart. You send you open space, the island in the middle that the riots and I was discussing by Bart.

G

How do we do that, but I mean maybe maybe there's some value in looking at taking part of it or using part of it are giving them to give us part of it to cut in for parking cut into it for parking for the neighborhood, because it is horribly narrow, street the M. This is an aside of this since we're doing all this investigation when I was driving there. Today on Herman, there was maybe ten was probably exaggeration. Seven limousines parked on Herman as well just similar to the product.

G

It was kind of like they used to.

E

Have on seventh Avenue, they used.

G

To park like seventh now they're parking on Herman and that really narrows the street down as well I makes it difficult for neighbors to the neighborhood to park. So I, don't know we should be doing some with that or informing those people. They shouldn't be parking there either, but other than that. I'm in favor of the the red part.

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Go into motion.

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Doing 3d resolution Jenny something introduced. I.

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Will introduce resolution to have the red zone on the north side of atlantic and the red zone on that section of bayshore circle? North.

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Councilmember O'connell I councilmember Medina, aye, councilmember ibera, our.

F

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Mayor Salazar are narrowing all right. Mr.

F

Mayor could could I request clarification as to the specifics of the council direction. I hear two council members expressing interest in our more of deliberate outreach to bart and addressing this issue of a source or circle for the city's purposes. Is that something that the Council wishes us to pursue? Irene.

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G

Definitely it's always been. It's.

E

Abundantly clear that I had wanted and I think we should pursue, and we should really yes make this one of those new year's resolutions. Let's start early, but.

G

But but not just Rico, you want to emotion and I want.

F

Our firm with many chances are.

G

That you're involved I.

F

Mean we don't need a separate motion and just to confirm the deferral of the relocation of the loading zone pending further study, yeah.

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F

To be part of your motion as well, yeah.

A

Thank you agreed. That's yes, edition. Okay, okay, we're all clear good.