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San Bruno City Council Meeting September 25, 2012
10a. Approve Grade Separation Archway Design
A
B
Mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
there
several
I
hope
efficiently
coupled
together
pieces
to
this
presentation.
I
will
start
mark
Simon
from
the
caltrain
jpv
will
make
some
comments,
and
then
we
have
the
a
one
of
the
representatives
of
the
design
team
that
has
worked
with
both
the
jpv
and
with
the
city
to
put
together
some
design
concepts
for
a
decorative
feature
on
the
san
bruno
grade.
Separation
will
speak
as
well.
B
If
you
will
early
in
those
discussions
with
the
citizen
advisors,
the
concept
of
an
archway
feature
was
introduced,
as
the
possible
decorative
element
that
would
create
would
meet
those
objectives.
That
would
create
a
sense
of
identity
in
place
and
would
be
a
key
element
in
our
ongoing
efforts
to
revitalize
and
make
sure
that
our
downtown
in
our
central
core
of
the
community
area
is
revitalized
and
that
it
thrives.
B
It's
subcommittee
of
the
city
council,
consisting
of
now
mayor,
Ruane
and
vice
mayor
now,
vice
mayor
ibera
were
assigned
early
on
to
Shepherd
this
process
and
to
represent
the
city
council
in
this
very
important
dialogue
as
it
as
it.
What
wound
its
way
through
the
years
and
they
have
followed
that
process
since
the
very
beginning.
B
More
recently,
after
a
period
of
years
where
the
great
separation
project
went
on
hiatus,
it
rebid,
it
was
reemerged
when
the
caltrain
leadership
was
able
to
actually
accelerate
the
starting
of
construction.
And
now
we
are
very
pleased
that
the
project
is
well
underway.
You
can
see
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
B
So
you
have
in
the
packet
tonight,
unfortunately,
because
this
process
was
was
really
on
going
until
the
very
last
part
of
last
week.
You
have
in
your
packet
a
preliminary
snapshot
of
the
discussion
item
that
will
be
talking
with
you
tonight
about,
and
tonight
is
an
opportunity
for
both
for
for
you
to
weigh
in
with
comments,
but
also
to
express
your
endorsement,
if
you
will
of
the
design
concept
so
that
we
can
move
this
project
forward
in
an
expedient
and
Ben,
it's
expedient,
timely
manner
and
avoid
potential
delay
to
the
grade
separation
project
itself.
B
So
with
that,
I'll
ask
mark
Simon,
on
behalf
of
the
jpv
and
caltrain,
to
make
some
comments
and
then
what
we
have
a
rather
the
design
team
has
a
PowerPoint
presentation
that
will
walk
you
through
a
fair
number
of
the
details
of
the
design
concept
and
allow
you
to
ask
questions
and
make
comments.
Thank.
C
C
What
everybody
can
confirm
is
a
pretty
disruptive
process
of
building
this
great
separation,
but
it
is
moving
very
quickly,
as
you
can
see,
every
time
you
drive
by
it,
it's
really
starting
to
take
some
significant
form
now
and
it's
going
to
be
a
landmark,
and
we
have
been
in
concurrence
all
along
that
the
city
should
have
something
that
sort
of
puts
the
mark
of
san
bruno
on
it.
That's
really
why
we're
at
we
are
where
we
are
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
things
that
the
city
manager
alluded
to.
C
We
are
in
a
very,
very
tight
timeframe.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
left
to
make
these
decisions.
It
may
seem
unfair
to
come
to
you
and
say
that
to
you
under
these
circumstances,
but
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
on
this
project
working
on
this
particular
part
of
the
project
and
getting
it
to
the
point.
It's
at
now
we're
hopeful
that
you
can
find
it
in
you
find
it
yourselves
comfortable
what
we're
going
forward
with,
but
we're
running
out
of
time,
so
the
schedule
is
very
tight.
The
second
issue
is
budget.
C
We
haven't
had
a
meaningful
and
firm
conversation
with
city
staff
or
the
subcommittee
about
the
total
budget
for
this
and
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
it,
and
that
will
be
the
next
urgent
question.
We
have
only
a
couple
of
weeks
within
which
we
have
to
enter
into
a
funding
agreement
with
the
city
to
go
ahead
and
do
this,
and
by
mid
to
late
October,
we
have
to
have
identified
the
funding
to
pay
for
this
and,
as
I
said
to
the
subcommittee
at
a
meeting
last
week,
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
C
We're
going
to
have
to
figure
that
out,
I
am
confident
given
the
ability
of
caltrain
in
the
city
to
work
together.
That
will
find
a
way,
but
right
now
the
way
isn't
clear.
Yet
before
I
go
any
further,
I
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
Raphael
Boland,
the
construction
manager
is
also
here
in
case.
You
have
any
questions,
you're
all
familiar
with
him
by
now
and
ash
Golani.
Who
is
our
project
managers
also
here?
C
So
should
there
be
any
questions
related
to
the
schedule,
particularly
about
the
timeframe
in
which
we
have
to
operate
they're
better
equipped
to
respond
to
that
than
I?
Am
we're
very
happy
to
have
filled
paoli
here?
They
did
some
terrific
work
under
really
trying
circumstances.
Some
tight
deadlines,
some
going
back
and
forth
on
the
concept
is
we
tried
to
sort
out
what
made
the
most
sense
for
San
Bruno?
D
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
mayor
and
city
council,
so
wanted
to
step
back
here
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
plot
project
goals
and
really
you
know
this
is
really
about
enhancing
the
visibility
and
identity
of
San
Bruno
with
a
new
signature
element
here.
These
are
some
of
the
words
that
we
heard
when
we
were
discussing
with
the
community
about
how
to
identify
this
community.
Here
we
are
an
hour
pose
site.
You
see
this
conjunction
area
here,
and
this
is
where
we
are
right
now.
D
So
we'll
go
for
that
in
detail
a
little
bit
later,
we're
going
to
be
using
typical
guard
posts
between
the
posts
and
we'll
also
be
using
the
existing
windscreen.
So
we've
got
quite
a
few
different
views,
so
you
can
look
at
it
from
different
areas.
The
colors
right
now
are
something
that
we're
kind
of
working
through
with
with
the
team,
with
a
lot
of
different
elements.
This
is
approaching
the
site
san
bruno
area,
an
aerial
shot.
You
can
see
that
we
have
a
glazing
system
going
on
on
the
tower
adjacent
to
it.
D
You
can
see
with
a
massing,
build
out
kind
of
how
it
can
kind
of
hold
its
own
in
the
space,
especially
if
the
color
is
more
pronounced,
a
view
from
the
north
east
as
you're.
Looking
at
here,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
things.
One
of
the
things
is
the
height
of
the
arch
itself
is
limited
by
some
physical
characteristics,
of
the
way
that
the
trains
are
running,
those
OCS
wires.
The
overhead
catenary
system
wires
limit
our
height
of
the
arch.
D
They
can't
be
within
10
feet
of
it
and
because
of
where
it
is
that's
about
as
tall
of
an
arch
as
we
can
get
in
the
space
instead
of
ins
in
because
we
didn't
want
it
to
be
a
diminutive
arch,
we
took
those
arches
and
extended
them
all
the
way
to
the
ground.
This
way
we
connected
the
upper
station
with
kind
of
what's
happening
on
the
ground
plane
and
made
it
a
larger
arch
as
well.
This
is
a
little
detail
on
the
top
there
you
see
kind
of
a
curving
arch.
D
You
see
an
I-beam,
that's
kind
of
holding
some
plexiglass
and
then
outside
of
that
is
a
colored,
perforated
metal
screening,
and
then
you
see
in
plan.
You
have
this
arch,
such
section
with
these,
these
arches
kind
of
leaning
over
the
people
and
here's
an
idea
what
we're
talking
about
so
you
can
see
the
arch
and
then
you
can
see
these
the
supports
of
the
arch
that
need
to
actually
curve
out
and
the
reason
again
is
because
of
the
bulb
out
condition
of
the
platform
area
and
we
have
a
flat
arch.
D
So
that
allows
us
to
have
this
kind
of
feeling
that's
going
across
there
approaching
from
the
upper
Plaza.
This
is
a
view
that
we
have,
and
from
the
other
side
now
from
the
west
side,
you'll
note
that
this
is
really
what
you
see
so
there's
not
a
great
sense
of
understanding
that
this
is
an
archway.
It's
only
really
from
the
other
side
that
you
see
this
from
the
station
platform
area.
This
is
what
you
see
right
now
we're
looking
at
modifying
the
the
I-beam.
D
D
We're
looking
at
the
dimensions
in
size
of
the
perforations
right
now,
but
you'll
be
able
to
see
color
that
moves
through
this,
so
that
during
the
daytime
it
gets
a
backlit
situation
in
some
areas
and
then
at
night
it
gets
illuminated
with
LEDs
behind.
So
you
get
one
color
on
the
front
surface,
and
then
you
get
another
color
that
happens
behind
and
like
a
Georges,
Seurat
painting
with
a
whole
bunch
of
little
points.
Your
eyes
start
blending
the
colors
and
as
you
get
closer,
you
see
this
kind
of
almost
pixilation
of
color.
D
D
D
Some
examples
of
custom
perf,
so
some
additional
parts
of
this
we've
started
with
this
color
glazing.
That
would
happen
at
the
stair
at
the
elevator
tower.
So
it
really
gives
this
presence
both
during
the
daytime
and
at
the
night
time
and
it
kind
of
collects
it
allows
the
the
colors
to
kind
of
move
across
the
other
thing.
Is
you
get
kind
of
a
nice
curved
element
and
you've
got
a
vertical
element
right
next
to
each
other.
D
The
other
thing
is,
we
have
a
current
paving
patterns,
that's
kind
of
very
active
and
we're
simplifying
that.
So
it's
going
to
be
I,
think
I've,
more
subtle
and
subdued,
and
then
we
have
a
water
fountain
that
is
in
the
current
design
and
we're
removing
that
and
creating
it
more
of
a
proposed
planter
that
way:
kind
of
reducing
overall
running
costs
and
kind
of
making
it
a
nice
green
statement
there.
That
will
be
useful
kind
of
all
season
round.
D
We're
also
looking
at
the
potential
for
doing
a
pedestrian
enhancement
at
the
underpass.
We
feel
it's
an
area
that
we
need
to
study
a
little
bit
more,
that
it
is
a
place
that
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
walking.
It's
going
to
be
an
important
place
to
feel
safe
and
secure
and
interesting.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there
was
some
attention
to
detail
that
was
brought
in
that
area,
and
we
also
went
just
to
show
you
what
would
happen
if
we
end
up
putting
an
arch
on
both
sides
right
now.
A
E
Michael,
thank
you
Jim
personally,
I.
Don't
really
like
it.
Yeah
I
think
there
was
an
opportunity
here
to
make
a
structure
that
is
attractive
in
itself.
Instead,
I
think
we're
getting
an
unattractive
structure
and
then
tacking
on
a
colored
piece
of
plastic
on
the
front
of
it
and
hoping
that
that
makes
it
look
better.
I
I,
don't
get
it
and
and
I
know
these
things
are
a
matter
of
opinion,
but
you
know
I
would
question
the
how
enduring
a
design
like
this
would
be
a
I'm
sure
when
City
Hall
was
designed,
people
thought
wow.
E
That's
a
really
modern,
great.
Looking
building
that
we
look
at
it
now
and
it
looks
kind
of
funky
and
dated
in
10
years.
Are
people
going
to
look
at
this
and
say
what
were
they
thinking
back?
Then?
It's
not
I,
don't
know
it
just
looks
too
contemporary
and
I
I
would
have
preferred
to
see
something.
That's
more
more
traditional,
more
I,
don't
know,
there's
something:
that's
gonna,
something
that
stands
the
test
of
time.
I
mean
they're.
E
A
F
F
F
F
F
D
C
C
F
C
Of
the
things
we
have
tried
to
avoid
doing
is
making
it
about
ultimatums
or
take
it
or
leave
it.
We're
not
trying
to
present
it
to
you
that
way
what
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
left,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
make
any
significant
changes
to
it,
there
are
two
issues
you
have
to
consider.
One
is
the
cost
make
major
changes?
The
cost
is
going
to
go
up
for
something
that
has
not
yet
been
funded
where
the
funds
forward
identified
and
it
costs
us
time
which
ultimately
costs
money.
C
B
B
G
Dang
machemer,
eight
I
do
know
the
subcommittee
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
I'm
sure
dad
had
we
looked
back
to
what
we
started
with
to
where
we
are
there's
been
great
progress.
I'm,
certainly
not
a
design
architect
artist
by
any
standards,
so
I
would
share
with
what
councilman
said
when
you
know
it
didn't
wow
he
didn't
and
I'm
not
enthused
by
it.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
G
A
lot
of
time
has
been
spent
on
it
and
unfortunately
it
always
sounds
like
we're
about
out
of
time
to
do
anything
and
any
alternative
with
it.
The
fountain
was
the
first
time
I'd
heard
that
there
was
no
fountain
I
thought
there
wasn't
fountain
so
and
there
may
have
been
something
that
I've
missed
along
the
way
we
have
an
unknown
cost.
That
I
know
that
is
driving
this
too,
as
far
as
what
we
can
and
can't
do,
but
really
cost
has
brought
forward
so.
G
G
Thank
you,
so
the
fountains
there
so
I
don't
know
what
the
other
options
were.
I,
don't
know
what
the
with
the
suggestion
of
progress
was
on
this,
but
but
I
will
say
to
I
mean
it
doesn't
Wow
me
and
I.
Look
at
this
is
this
is
a
large
project
that
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
has
gone
in
and
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
this
project
is
happening,
and
this
is
going
to
be
an
area.
G
That's
supposed
to
be
the
center
of
town
with
the
transit
corridor
around
it
I
think
we're
going
to
have
one
opportunity
to
do
it,
but
then
again
we're
driven
by
cost.
So
I'm
sitting
up
here
wrestling
that
as
well
because
I
I
know
you
don't
want
to
answer
the
question,
but
I
kind
of
feel
in
a
corner,
yeah
and
saying:
if
not
this,
then
nothing
and
if
not,
now,
when
maybe
never
so
on
anyway,
the
city.
B
I
could
just
clarify
it,
I'm
sure
mark.
You
can
correct
me
if
I
miss
state
this,
but
I
would
like
to
just
attempt
to
respond
to
the
what?
If
it's?
If
it's
not
this,
then
what
the
design
team
has
identified
and
developed
a
number
of
different
alternatives
which
were
reviewed
by
the
subcommittee
and
which
have
been
worked
to
a
pretty
significant
level
of
at
least
visual
detail.
The
drawings
are
pretty
clear.
B
Those
are
options
that
would
not
be
attached
to
the
separation
structure
itself,
so
the
concept
of
public
are
at
a
gateway
feature
not
attached
to
the
grade
separation
structure
and
not
an
archway,
still
I
believe
offers
some
number
of
fairly
well-developed
ideas
and
potentially
other
ideas,
so
I
I
think
I
would
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
council
understands
that
it
was
the
interest
and
the
effort
to
move
the
conversation
back
towards
an
archway
attached
to
the
separation
structure
itself.
That
resulted
both
in
this
time
situation
as
well
as
this.
C
And
to
reiterate
something,
the
city
manager
noted
earlier
the
Citizens
Advisory
Committee
that
worked
on
this
and
was
actively
involved
in
designing
it
had
as
their
choice
an
archway
that
was
part
of
the
grade
separation
structure.
One
of
the
reasons
we
had
to
hire
a
design
firm
is
because
we
couldn't
work
out
how
to
do
so
in
a
way
that
wouldn't
also
run
afoul
of
the
overhead
catenary
wires
and
turn
it
into
one
law
voltage
trap
for
everybody
who
might
wander
near
it.
C
So
there
were
some
physical
issues
that
had
to
be
worked
out
and
some
rain
storm
and
it
took
place
the
the
only
optimistic
view
I
can
offer
you
perhaps
councilman
vadina.
Is
that
I
think
we're
all
surprised
at
how
the
thing
looks
now
that
it
doesn't
look
in
my
case,
like
I
thought
it
was
going
to
look
it's
it's
sort
of
more
dramatic
and
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
once
something
gets
farther
along
and
there's
some
aesthetic
things
that
the
designers
can
do
your
while
kocian
might
go
up
a
little
bit.
A
H
My
turn
the
rnase
of
what
what
what
was
said
is
that
10
years
ago
it's
it
was
a
consensus
as
to
what
we
wanted.
What
the
vision
of
this
great
separation
ultimately
wanted
to
be,
whether
it
was
driving
right
up
to
it
or
whether
was
it
seeing
it
run.
When
you
came
off
of
highway
101,
it
was
the
statement
and
I've
seen
archways
I've
seen
them
all
over
the
world
and
archways
make
that
statement
of
place
of
symbol
of
transportation
and
such
I
try
to
think
that
I
am
you
know,
I
can
envision.
H
H
You
know
not
part
of
the
great
separation
I
we
grappled
with
it,
and
we
made
the
decision
to
go
back
to
some
form
of
an
arch
on
the
structure
and
I
believe
this
is
a
using
your
term,
a
contemporary
form
of
the
arch,
whether
it's
a
trellis
structure,
whether
it's
actual
actually
an
arch
bridge
structure
that
some
that
you
see
you
know
in
overpasses,
most
notably
the
the
pedestrian
overpass
in
Berkeley
that
resembles
us,
which
that
resembled
what
you
know
what
what
the
artist
rendition
had.
You
know
previously
on
this
structure.
I
see
the
details.
H
My
experience
tells
me
that
this
is
going
to
be
something
that
I
can
be
proud
of,
that
that
is
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
a
statement.
We
made
some
comments
that
you
know.
Let's
get
away
from,
you
know
the
these
perceive
flimsiness
of
it.
You
know
lets
you
know,
make
it
a
little
bolder
in
a
statement:
I'm
not
buying
some
of
the
colors
yet,
but
that's
something
that
we
have
to
get
to.
H
But
I
truly,
like
you
know
the
the
way
it's
the
way
it
is
blended
in
what
the
structure,
how
it's
anchored
and
you
know
and
the
proportions
of
it.
You
look
at
anything
else.
You'd
have
to
look
at
this
thing
it
the
way
it
is
you
know
without
it
and
then
look
at
something
else.
You
know
as
part
of
maybe
the
elevator
structure,
but
you
know
definitely
not
part
of
the
overpass.
So.
H
The
mayor
and
I
for
ten
years
have,
you
know,
envisioned
you
know
not
necessarily
a
statement,
but
just
the
safety
and
seeing
you
know
seeing
a
seeing
an
overpass
here
and
I
think
this
is
the
icing
on
the
cake
and
it
will
you
know,
and
it
will
truly
make
a
statement
for
it
for
our
town.
You
know
and
and
make
that
statement
that
that
we're
here.
A
We
have
been
working
for
quite
a
period
of
time,
as
ken
said.
You
know
well
over
ten
years
with
the
CAC,
from
its
infancy
to
where
we
are
today
with
shovels
in
the
ground
and
concrete
being
poured
and
steel
being
Layden.
And
it's
been,
it's
been
quite
a
ride.
I
could
tell
you
that,
but
we
had
some
discussions
over
this
last
year
with
some
design
concepts
that
were
frankly
my
mind
pretty
far
out
some
that
weren't
attached
we
had
water
features
that
showed
up
when
there
weren't
water
features
planned.
A
We
had
altered
kinds
of
things
going
on
and
ultimately
we
went
full
circle
and
came
back
to
what
the
CAC
said
that
they
wanted,
which
was
an
archway
to
designate
you're
in
san
bruno.
We
may
not
be
able
to
do
it
on
the
on
the
west
side
would
be
nice
in
the
future,
but
on
the
east
side,
I
think
we
need
something
to
welcome
people
and
let
them
know
where
they
are,
and
some
that's
going
to
make
a
statement
for
for
many
many
years
to
come.
A
So
we
decided
last
Thursday
actually
that
this
sketch,
which
was
done
on
a
napkin
frankly
after
we
pretty
much
rejected
all
of
the
other
designs
that
were
put
before
us
to
go
back
with
with
what
we
thought
was
the
original
intent
of
everyone.
Now
the
arch
is
the
arch.
We
have
some
physical
constraints
with
the
with
the
Canaries.
The
electrical
wires
that
are
eventually
going
to
power
caltrain
in
the
future
should
be
nice
to
make
a
nice
bigger
and
more
substantial.
A
It's
not
going
to
happen,
but
it
is
something
that's
attached
to
our
structure
that,
in
fact,
I
think
will
highlight
the
entrance
to
our
city.
We
haven't
decided
on
colors,
yet
they
have
some
very
preliminary
proposals
on
perforated
metals
and
different
types
of
materials,
also
back
lining
in
the
evening,
so
that
they
will
be
LED
lit
this.
This
whole
structure
and
I
think
it's
not
as
substantial
as
maybe
you
know
something
that
you
might
see
in
st.
Louis.
If
you
will,
but
it's
it's,
it
is
in
fact
a
welcome.
A
It's
light
its
Airy
and
and
the
the
the
lighting
itself,
as
well
as
the
materials
that
are
going
to
be
finalized
shortly,
will
in
fact
make
it
a
substantial
statement
of
what
I
think
we
really
wanted
as
of
over
ten
years
ago.
So
we
do
have
some
constraints
and
my
fear
at
the
time
last
Thursday
was
that
boy
we're
going
to
put
this
right
on
the
council
without
having
a
whole
lot
of
other
discussion.
A
Preliminary
you
know
visit
to
two
different
structures
or-
or
you
know,
architectural
renderings,
but-
and
that
shows
this
evening,
obviously,
but
we
worked
very
very
hard
to
get
to
where
we
are.
We
went
with
an
arch
in
the
beginning
and
we're
all
the
way
back
to
an
arch,
it's
a
little
different
than
what
we
probably
wanted
as
far
as
substance,
but
it
is
what
it
is
and
we
are
in
fact
restricted
by
a
lot
of
construction
constraints.
Just
like
you
know,
people
are
say:
is
it
going
to
be
like
the
ones
down
the
peninsula?
A
Well,
they
don't
have
a
bart
box
to
worry
about,
for
instance,
so
our
structure
is
not
near
as
high
as
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
or
look
like
it
was
going
to
be,
but
we're
limited
physically,
but
I
think
in
in
the
bigger
picture,
what
we
worked
on
is
what
we
have
here
tonight.
There
are
some
very
fine
changes
that
have
to
be
made
and
and
colors
are
not
exactly
what
I'd
like
to
see,
but
that
can
be
worked
on
I
think
in
substance.
E
Michael
welcome.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
temper
my
earlier
remarks
and
I
certainly
meant
no
disrespect
to
the
committee
and
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
has
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
I'm
you
guy
up
here
and
you
guys
have
been
working
really
hard
and
it
didn't
mean
any
disrespect
to
the
designers
of
this
either
I
guess
if
this
was
intended
to
invoke
an
emotional
reaction,
it
certainly
did
and
so
I
apologize
with
my
comments,
not
the
one
we
wanted.
A
B
Just
to
respond
to
that
question,
it's
a
very
interesting
concept.
First
of
all
that
there
would
be
additional
public
art
and
or
use
of
a
theme-
maybe
it
is,
it
might
be
where
you're
going
in
terms
of
the
build-out
of
the
transit
corridor
specific
plan
in
that
area.
I
think
the
short
answer
to
the
question
is
yes:
that
could
be
something
that
is
factored
into
our
development
approval
process
in
the
form
of
some
sort
of
development
requirement
or
development
funding
requirement.
I.
B
Just
restate
something
I
said
earlier
too,
which
is
that
this
discussion
really
was
prompted
by
the
urgency
of
finalizing
construction
of
the
structure
itself,
and
so
I
think
there
is
still
an
opportunity,
in
addition
to
tasking
the
development
community
with
future
improvements
near
or
at
the
the
great
separation
area
that
there
is
also
an
opportunity.
If,
if
the
council
is
not
set
on
something
being
attached
to
and
part
of
the
structure
itself,
there's
still
an
opportunity
through
this
process
to
design
and
establish
something
in
the
on
the
grounds
of
the
of
the
elevated
structure.
I.
D
D
Chi
have
one
thing
that
we
needed
to
look
at
and
get
to
you
as
as
far
as
the
arch
concept,
and
we
felt
that
we
needed
to
present
something
to
you
for
this
meeting
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
beginning
of
a
conversation
and
that
we're
able
to
kind
of
proceed
with
developing
more
Wow
into
this
design.
But
I
wanted
to
just
say
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
done
thing
as
it
is
right
now.
As
far
as
the
design
teams
perspective.
E
C
It
depends
on
what
you
do.
I
mean:
there's,
certainly
the
the
kinds
of
demonstrations
that
Dan
made,
don't
really
begin
to
describe
what
can
be
done
to
make
it
look
more
substantial
and
to
really
make
it
stand
out
in
a
way
that
perhaps
satisfies
you
know:
you'll
want
people
to
pull
off
the
freeway,
look
up
and
go
wow
or
simply
to
say.
Oh
it's
san
bruno
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
C
No
other
city
has
something
quite
like
this,
so
I
think
that
there
are
things
they
can
do
just
within
the
design
of
the
archway,
but
it
to
echoes
something
Dan
said:
I,
don't
think
that
has
to
be
the
end
of
what
happens.
I
think
once
the
archway
is
built
and
as
the
city
managers
indicating
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
a
lot
of
other
things
that
are
in
concert
with
that
or
an
expansion
to
that
or
extension
of
that,
or
even
for
the
sake
of
art,
in
contradiction
to
it.
C
So
I
think
you
know
we're
eager
to
see
the
rest
of
the
finalized
design,
but
at
some
point
or
another
we
have
to
figure
out
how
we
do
that.
How
quickly
we
can
do
it
and
the
question
I
have
to
keep
coming
back
to,
which
is
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
in
the
design
characteristics
the
additional
design
elements
all
of
them
add
cost
to
the
project,
some
of
them
more
so
than
others
in
time
always
results
an
additional
cost.
I
B
I
Said
we
were
limited
to
the
height,
so
we
could
not
do
a
real
elaborate.
I
could
support
this
if
we
are
going
to
attach
it
to
the
structure.
Now,
if
we're
not
business,
connie
said-
and
we
want
to
do
something
freash
more
freestanding
than
we
have
other
options,
but
I
think
the
we
wanted
an
arch.
We
felt
that
we
couldn't
go
too
high.
We
couldn't
have
a
big
hanging,
part
that
had
stuff
coming
down,
so
I
could
support
the
proposal.
That's
before
you
now,
but
there's
some
work
obviously
still
needs
to
be
done.
F
G
G
F
F
You
had
a
drawing
that
you
showed
me
up
here
that
showed
a
strip
of
the
same
type
of
metal
under
the
archway,
with
lights
behind
it
to
tie
it
all
together.
Are
you
is
that
the
kind
of
added
detail
that
is
we
were
would
be
able
to
look
forward
to
is
that
kind
of
some
of
the
things
you're
looking
at
I
believe.
D
Okay,
if,
if
that's
the
case,
yes,
we
would
be
kind
of
working
on
all
that,
but
of
course,
we're
balanced
by
a
very
narrow
budget.
So
the
question
is
kind
of
where
we
distribute
the
funds
and
the
more
sites
that
we
distribute
the
funds,
the
less
we
can
put
on
your
wow
factor.
So
it's
it's
a
balance.
Balancing
act
and
hearing
these
priorities
from
you
would
be
very,
very
important
today.
E
F
E
A
D
F
A
E
H
Again,
my
last
comma
is
that
I
I
think
maybe
I
wasn't
strong
enough.
You
know
to
show
you
know.
As
far
as
my
opinion
on
the
color
and
it's
probably
in
hindsight,
I
probably
said:
don't
present
this
color,
because
when
you
look
at
it
from
this
vantage
point
from
the
distance
it
looks
like
ribbon,
it
looks
paper
thin.
What
sold
me
was
those
you
know,
the
other,
slides
and
being
being
a
design,
professional
I
could
see
the
structure
I
could
I
can
tell
how
it
was
being
put
together.
H
I
can
tell
that
it
had
some
beefiness
to
it
that
it
had
some
detail
to
it
and
then
putting
that,
together
with
the
materials
the
lighting
and
such
I
had
an
inner
wow.
So
I
can't
guarantee
that
you're
going
to
like
it
I
can't
guarantee
that
half
the
people
around
here
going
to
like
it,
but
I
think
this
is
what
resembles
what
that
community,
that
that
committee
wanted
and
I
believe.
Just
like
you
know,
mr.
Simon
has
said.
No
one
else
has
this:
you
have
if
you
want
a
Belmont
grade
separation.
H
This
is
something
that
we
will
work
towards
to
try
to
maybe
make
it
a
little
more
conservative
so
that
I
can't
stand
a
time,
but
in
time
you
know
people
are
going
to
recognize
san
bruno
as
the
arch
and
that's
going
to
be.
You
know
something
that
you
know
will
be
lost
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
put
put
it
they're.
A
D
The
only
other
thing
that
I
would
ask
is
that
you
have
this
discussion
about
funding
as
soon
as
possible
right
and
that
you
also
perhaps
create
a
hierarchy
of
needs,
meaning
that,
if
you
feel
that
most
of
the
resources,
if
you
want
a
bigger
wow
factor
that
needs
to
be,
we
need
to
rob
money
in
the
end
from
the
underway
passageway
to
get
to
the
big
archway.
Are
you
willing
to
do
that,
or
do
you
feel
that
all
three
of
these
elements
need
to
be
shown?
D
C
To
make
this
thing
happen,
so
we'll
begin
working
on
that
immediately
will
move
as
quickly
as
we
can
and
will
begin
meeting
very
shortly
with
the
city
staff
and
the
city
manager
to
begin
discussing
coming
up
with
a
final
budget
number,
so
we
can
begin
addressing
how
we
pay
for
it
once
we
fit
a
number
the
costs.
Estimates
will
be
itemized
so
that
there'll
be
additional
elements
that
you
can
see
and
see
how
much
traditional
they'll
cost,
and
some
of
them
will
be
things
that
don't
have
to
be
done.
C
Right
now
could
be
done
later,
like
the
pedestrian
underpass.
So
it
isn't,
it
isn't
going
to
be
quite
as
stark
as
well.
It
might
because
God
knows
I've
made
it
sound
that
way,
but
there
are
some
ability
to
make
this
ideally
closer
to
something
you'd
be
comfortable
with,
but
we'll
see
where
we
end
up
and
we'll
work
on
the
funding
questions
almost
immediately.