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San Bruno City Council Meeting September 24, 2013
10a. Report on Parking on First Avenue
B
Jpp
caltrain
so
I'm
giving
a
quick
update
this
evening
on
where
we
are
with
the
parking
and
some
proposed
mitigation
to
some
of
the
parking
losses
that
we've
been
working
jointly
with
city
staff,
so
real
quickly.
Just
quick
update
on
the
parking
discuss
some
of
the
mitigation
and
then
just
take
any
questions
you
may
have.
So
how
we
got
here
was
during
the
September
4th
outreach
meeting.
B
So
what
I'm
going
to
give
you
right
now
is
the
as
plan.
So
this
is
what
the
contract
plans
say
today.
As
far
as
parking
the
minuses,
you
can't
see
in
real
well,
but
these
are
minuses
I'm,
sorry,
those
are
pluses.
These
are
minor
search,
so
red
equals
spots
that
have
been
that
will
be
lost
from
existing
condition.
Green
represents
additional
parking.
B
That
is
not
there
today,
so
very
quickly.
San
mateo,
this
is
say,
mateo
up
by
the
what
used
to
be
the
lumberyard.
That's
currently
the
transit
center.
This
is
San
Bruno
up
here,
going
up
down
on
this
sheet.
So
what
we
discover
that
San
Mateo
is
that
there
are
15
spots
that
are
there.
Currently,
they
get
lost
and
five
of
those
five
additional
spots
get
added
for
a
net
loss
of
ten
parking
spots
on
san
mateo.
B
The
reason
for
that
is
that,
in
the
final
condition,
there's
going
to
be
a
center
turning
lane,
which
is
required
to
facilitate
people
entering
or
leaving
the
station,
and
that
actually
means
that
we
can't
get
the
full
width
in
there
and
some
parking
spots
get
lost,
and
then
this
is
the
course
now
the
southern
section
of
the
of
the
project
site.
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
first
avenue.
I
erroneously
gave
the
council
the
information
of
forty
two
parking
spots
lost.
B
B
My
designer
just
took
a
google
map,
measured
/
20,
it's
a
little
more
complicated
man,
because
there's
driveways
and
there's
other
impediments
today
that
mean
that
not
everything
is
as
simple
as
that,
and
so
the
spots
that
get
lost
at
that
first
avenue
or
all
the
northern
end
of
the
project
site,
so
this
bulb
out
is
the
cul-de-sac.
That's
there
now
melody
toyota
is
on
the
upper
left
hand
where
I'm
pointing
a
laser.
So
these
six
spots
that
get
lost
is
because
there's
no
longer
street
there.
So
previously
First
Avenue
flowed
into
San
Mateo.
B
B
In
addition
to
that,
there
are
11
spots
on
san
mateo
up
by
canes
and
san
mateo,
up
on
the
left
of
your
joint
and
then
a
mat
of
11
spots
on
I'm,
sorry,
16
spots
on
honey
tip,
so
there's
some
additional
parking
provided
up
by
on
the
east
side.
However,
that's
offset
by
some
losses
here
because
canes
now
turns,
whereas
previously
huntington
float
in
the
same
tale.
B
So
now
I'm
like
to
just
talk
about
some
of
the
things
we've
worked
with
the
city
on
some
of
what
you're
going
to
see
here
is
a
little
preliminary,
so
I'll
describe
that
as
we
go
through.
So
what
we
did
is
we
sat
down
with
the
city
and
looked
at
all
the
locations
of
which
parking
would
be
less
than
what's
there
today
and
try
to
see
what
of
any
of
those
spots
could
be
recovered.
B
And
then
we
looked
at
different
alternatives,
in
particular
for
First
Avenue,
to
see
how
many
spots
we
could
recoup
in
that
area.
And
finally,
we
looked
at
just
different
options
for
the
remainder
of
the
the
project
site,
in
particular
san
mateo,
in
huntington,
and
I
should
note
that
we
are
continuing
to
work
with
the
designer
to
see
if
there
are
any
other
individual
spots
that
we
can
gain
back,
we're
never
going
to
get
the
same
bang
for
our
buck
as
we
see
in
these
two
options.
B
However,
if
we
were
able
to
just
squeeze
things
up
and
gain
an
extra
spot
or
two
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
as
the
design
progresses,
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
San
Mateo
Avenue.
So
once
again,
this
is
the
area
up
by
where
the
transit
center
drop-off
area
is
going
to
be
where
the
lumberyard
is
so
in
the
current
condition
this
exists,
but
this
is
a
solid
curve
line.
So
we
recognize
that
by
dropping
back
that
curve
to
match
this
one,
we
were
able
to
gain
seven
spots
from
what
we
have.
B
So
these
numbers
you're
going
to
see
in
green
when
I
say
seven
additional,
that's
seven!
From
the
last
figure
I
showed
you.
It
still
equals
a
net
loss
of
three
parking
spots
on
san
mateo.
We
were
previously
showing
10
now
three,
so
that's
where
the
seven
come
from
and
then
First
Avenue,
and
we
looked
at
two
alternatives
and
to
make
this
work
still
some
discussion
that
has
to
happen
between
JPB
and
the
city
regarding
what
kind
of
Licensing
your
agreement.
That
would
happen
because
the
property
line
is
this
dashed
line
you
see
over
there.
B
So
that's
some
discussion
that
would
still
have
to
happen
to
make
this
work,
but
from
a
purely
engineering
point
of
view,
what
we
looked
at
is
how
can
we
mitigate
the
loss
of
31
spots,
all
of
this
one
Street?
So
what
we
came
up
with
it
as
a
first
alternative
was
if
we,
if
we
simply
extended
the
amount
of
parallel
parking-
and
we
just
took
it
all
the
way
out-
we
can
gain
back
18
spots,
so
that
still
means
a
net
loss
of
13
in
that
area.
B
B
Things
are,
of
course,
a
little
bit
different
than
they
were
a
few
years
ago
and
so
we're
looking
at
less
likelihood
that
we're
looking
at
four
tracks
anytime
soon
than
we
were
back
in
two
thousand
nine,
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
this
would
allow
us
if
we
can
take
off
the
table
even
temporarily
the
idea
of
four
tracks.
It
does
free
up
some
space
over
here
and
allows
us
to
do
this
extended
parking.
B
So
then
we
took
it
one
step
further
and
said:
well,
if
we're
already
pushing
that
curb
line
back,
what
else
can
we
do
so
we
looked
at
the
possibility
of
instead
of
just
doing
parallel
spots
if
we
actually
angle
these
back
a
little
different,
but
it
does
free
up
even
more
parking.
So
now
we're
looking
at
37
additional
spots.
If
your
call
they're,
actually
you
lost
31.
B
So
it's
a
net
gain
actually
in
this
alignment
of
six
spots,
so
we're
still
working
with
the
designer
on
the
specifics
of
how
that
would
look
in
terms
of
sidewalks
tions
and
things
like
that,
but
just
big
picture,
it
does
appear
that
we
could
add
thirty
seven
spots
from
where
we
are
today
for
a
net
gain
is
sex.
If
we
did
this
so
just
a
summary
total
of
what
is
proposed
to
be
reduced
in
the
after
condition
and
what
we're
proposing
to
mitigate.
So
this
first
call
of
this
proposed
lost.
B
That's
if
we
did
nothing
different
than
what's
in
the
contract
plans
today.
So
what
that
it
tells
you
is
oh
I'm,
sorry,
except
for
the
parallel
parking
at
first
out
of
you,
it's
assuming
that
that
happens
regardless.
So
obviously,
if
that
doesn't
year
back
to
31,
but
assuming
that
we're
able
to
make
that
work
that
that's
13
spots
lost
at
first
14
in
san
mateo
16
in
huntington
for
a
total
forty
three
spots
lost,
the
proposed
call
of
the
last
column
on
your
right
represents.
B
If
we
were
able
to
do
some
of
this
other
stuff,
we
were
talking
about.
So
the
six
added
assumes
that
we're
able
to
do
these
angle
spots.
In
addition,
something
we
haven't
talked
about,
but
something
we're
discussing
the
city
staff
is
the
city
has
shown
some
interest
in
leasing
or
in
some
way
having
possession
of
the
existing
caltrain
temporary
station.
So
at
the
end
of
the
job,
we're
no
longer
be
using
that
station.
All
the
caltrain
passengers
shift
to
the
new
station.
B
The
city's
had
some
interest
in
that
is
either
overflow
for
volumes,
gay
or
maybe
just
to
mitigate
parking
losses
in
the
community.
So
if
you
add
that,
depending
on
the
configuration
you
can
go
anywhere
from
70
to
90
spots
on
the
west
side
of
the
tracks,
which
gives
you
a
net
gain
of
about
anywhere
from
forty
six
to
sixty
six
spots,
you
can
take
any
questions
and
any.
C
Don't
have
a
question
but
I
do
appreciate
you
taking
our
comments
from
last
time
and
working
so
hard
to
find
ways
to
gain
parking
instead
of
losing
so
many
that
we
saw
so
I
do
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ken
I'm,
just
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
what's
lost
and
what's
what
was
existing
right
before
any
construction
right?
There
was
a
curb
line
along
the
right-of-way
correct.
B
C
C
B
B
C
Do
we
have
any
documentation
or
any
idea
of
what
the
parking
demand
was
Prior
I
mean
I.
Don't
recall
that
you
know
my
my
experiences
in
driving
down
First
Avenue
driving
through
the
Bel
Air
that
there
was
during
the
day
there
was
never
any
solid
parking
along
there.
I
mean
I,
don't
I'm
sure
there
was
parking
at
night
right
cars
parked
at
night,
but
you
know
because
there's
no
train
station.
You
know
we're
introducing
additional
parking
for
train
passengers
now,
which
is
going
to
conflict,
whether
or
not
we
have
sufficient
parking
or
not.
B
I
did
not
do
a
parking
study,
/
sampras
to
have
me
I
can
tell
you
anecdotally,
because
I
worked
there
quite
a
bit
with
the
box,
culvert
and
obviously
following
on
track.
You
are
absolutely
correct
that
the
parking
in
the
evening
is.
Is
it
a
huge
premium?
What
if
anecdotally
notice
and
take
that
for
what
what
it
is
standard
disclaimers
applied,
but
basically
the
east
side
seems
to
be
packed
capacity,
the
west
side,
where
we
were
doing
some
work
earlier,
it
tends
to
be
a
lot
easier
to
find
spots
that
people
don't
end
up.
B
C
B
C
B
So
you
ends
up
with
a
net
loss
of
13
spaces
from
what's
there
today
and
where
those
are,
you
lose
six
of
them,
7,
I'm
actually
actually
in
a
part
of
street
that
doesn't
exist
anymore
people.
I
got
wise
melody
and
you
also
lose
a
further
five
at
a
new
pedestrian
walk,
because
you
can't
have
a
car
park
right
up
against
a
crosswalk,
just
written
for
sight
distance
and
then
the
last
of
the
parking
loss
is
because
of
this
turnaround.
So
so
there
is
some
loss.
However,
primarily
of
course
the
parking
demand
is
up.
B
B
By
and
large,
these
figures
all
focus
on
this
extreme
northern
end
of
it.
Everything
from
there
south
is
unchanged
so
that,
if
there's
a
parking
spot
there
today
there'll
be
a
parking
spot
in
the
after
the
addition,
we
just
focused
on
the
north
end
cuz,
that's
where
the
big
losses
were
so
I,
don't
want
to
give
the
impression
that
we
were
removing
parking
from
the
whole
first
avenue
we
actually
born
and.
B
B
C
B
C
C
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
for
the
jpg.
Thank
you
very
much.
Keep
us
posted
mr.
wrinkles.
Oh
just
two
questions
or
a
question
in
a
comment.
I
would
be
leaning
towards
requesting
that
you
consider
putting
in
the
perpendicular
parking
along
there
for
additional
spots
and
the
other
comment
more
using
the
current
caltrain
parking
as
additional
replacement
spots
or
whatever
doesn't
really
tie
in.
For
this
end,
I
mean
people
are
not
going
to
park
down
opposite
lions
field
or
whatever
and
walk
to
their
homes
or
whatever.
A
So,
yes,
it
would
be
nice
for
the
city
to
maybe
be
able
to
use
that
for
things
in
the
lions
field
area,
but
to
say
that
those
40
or
50
or
more
spaces
are
substituting
for
some
of
the
loss
because
of
the
construction
of
between
pine
and
7
11,
and,
I
think,
is
not
the
right
conclusion
to
draw.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.