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Description
San Bruno City Council Meeting February 10, 2015
Whole Meeting
trt 1:26:00
A
A
A
F
Good
evening,
Marouane
and
council,
when
I
was
here
six
months
ago,
to
give
the
council
an
update
on
the
organics
program,
I
was
asked
by
council
to
come
back
after
the
program
had
been
in
place
for
one
year
and
to
give
you
an
update
on
how
it
was
going.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
tonight
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
here
so
how
we
got
here.
F
So,
as
you
know,
January
first
we
began
allowing
residents
to
put
food
scraps
and
soiled
paper
products
into
their
existing
green
containers,
which
currently
had
yard
waste
and
grass
clippings
inside.
We
provided
them
a
kitchen
pale
and
to
a
system
in
this
process,
and
this
is
also
the
time
that
we
began
weekly
collection
of
the
green
cart.
During
the
past
12
months,
we
provided
education
to
the
residents
in
both
printed
and
electronic
format,
and
we've
also
reached
out
to
commercial
businesses
that
we
know
produce
high
volumes
of
food
waste.
F
Over
time,
we've
seen
that
behavior
change
is
a
large
factor
when
measuring
the
success
of
the
program
as
more
and
more
residents
and
businesses
participate.
The
concept
that
food
scraps
and
soiled
paper
products
are
as
easy
to
recycle
as
a
bottle
or
a
can
starts
to
take
root
in
our
community.
We've
seen
this
trend
continued
as
the
behaviors
continued
to
evolve
and
change.
Organic
diversion
continues
to
increase,
as
you
can
see
from
the
chart
in
2013.
F
Only
remember
only
the
only
material
allowed
in
the
green
cart
was
grass
clippings
and
leaves,
and
then
in
2014,
you
approved
the
addition
of
the
food
scrap
program
and
that
led
to
an
increase
of
seven
hundred
and
thirty-five
tons
in
its
first
year
and
I
also
would
like
you
to
keep
in
mind
that
2014
was
truly
a
year
of
drought
and
regionally
across
recology.
We
saw
from
the
food
waste
and
the
grass
clippings
tonnage
go
down,
so
that
number
is
significant,
significantly
positive.
F
Another
measurement
of
increase
in
program
participation
as
far
as
the
reduction
in
cart
size,
so
customers
are
pulling
their
organic
material
now
out
of
their
grey
cart
and
placing
it
in
the
green
cart.
So
this
shift
of
material
is
allowing
customers
to
migrate
down
to
the
20
gallon
cart
if
they
so
choose.
F
So
we
don't
have
many
customers
in
a
larger
can
anymore
now
we'll
take
a
shift
to
commercial
and
when
I
shared
with
you
previously
is
six
months
ago
we
talked
about
the
dynamic
makeup
of
our
commercial
accounts
and
134
our
major
organic
producers
in
366,
or
have
little
to
no
organics
because
of
our
outreach.
In
the
past
year,
we
have
58
customers
on
the
on
the
commercial
organics
program,
which
is
a
forty
three
percent
participation
rate,
and
in
six
months
ago
we
were
at
thirty-five
percent.
F
So
it's
continually
growing
and
it
is
an
ongoing
process
and,
that's
not
to
say
we
won't
be
reaching
out
to
the
additional
366,
because
we
do
find
that
there
is
additional
volume
there,
because
we
do
have
allowed
the
soil
paper
product.
So
there's
the
material
there
for
us
to
go
after
some
of
the
struggles
when
we
reach
out
to
the
commercial
customers,
our
management's,
reluctant
to
change
the
need
for
corporate
approval
and
some
have
some
space
constraints.
So
we
are
working
diligently
with
them
to
find
a
solution
that
works
for
everyone.
F
The
result
in
working
closely
with
the
commercial
clients
is
shown
here
on
the
graph.
They
are
changing
their
behavior
and
they
are
beginning
to
participate.
So
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
convert
our
major
garbage
producers
into
an
organic
compactor
and
YouTube
is
one
of
our
leaders,
they've
converted
their
recycling
compactor
and
they
also
have
an
organics,
compactor
and
mollie
stones
is
working
diligently
toward
that
process
as
well.
F
So
2013
was
our
pilot
year,
so
we
only
had
a
you
customers
participating
and
in
it's
in
our
first
year
of
the
commercial
program,
oh
shoot,
we
didn't
do
it
our
commercial
customers
and
have
increased
their
diversion
by
five
hundred
twenty-seven
percent.
They
are
diverting
765
tons
in
its
first
year,
so
they're
doing
a
great
job.
F
Organics
outreach
doesn't
stop
at
the
residential,
curb
and
commercial
we're
also
focusing
on
our
multi
families.
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
shelter
creek
and
they
have
three
hundred
pails
already
dispersed
within
their
community.
Those
are
residents
requesting
a
pale
and
that's
about
a
25-percent
participation
rate
from
shelter
creek,
I'm
checking
up
and
down
the
peninsula.
That's
a
very
high
participation
rate
for
multifamily.
So
it's
there
they're
a
strong
contributor.
We've
also
started
with
peninsula
place.
They've
got
some
kitchen
pails
out
there
and
they've
started
in
three
locations:
Pacific
Bay.
F
F
F
So
this
is
a
continued
effort
that
we
are
very
committed
to
our
outreach
and
education
moves
forward
and
new
ideas
and
presentations
are
coming
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we
have
now
scheduled
our
second
compost
giveaway,
which
will
be
on
Saturday
april
fifth,
the
same
location
as
last
year
up
at
Beckner
shelter,
so
our
residents
can
come
and
get
some
nice
rich
compost
that
they've
actually
that
come
from
the
material
they've
composted.
We
will
participate
in
educate,
tional
booths
that
come
our
direction
and
be
able
to
continue
our
outreach
there.
F
F
G
Michael
have
a
coke
questions.
One
do
we
have
numbers
on
an
actual
number
of
people
that
are
putting
their
their
green
bin
out
every
week
and
we
know
how
that's
changed
from
from
when
it
started,
I
mean
I
know
we
have
the
tonnage,
but
to
kind
of
gauge
actual
participation
do
we
know
and
how
many
people
are
actually
doing
it
on
a
weekly
basis.
We.
F
Don't
have
I
don't
have
numbers
here
tonight.
I
can
certainly
try
and
get
some
for
you.
Some
customers
are
still
putting
out
putting
it
out
on
a
bi-weekly
basis,
although
we
encourage
them
weekly
because
of
the
the
food.
That's
now
in
the
green
cart,
but
some
customers
are
still
on
their
bi-weekly
habit
and
so
I
can
definitely
we
can
try
and
gauge
that
number
for
you
and.
G
Has
there
been
any
issue
with
people
putting
the
wrong
things
in
the
green
bin,
or
have
people
been
pretty
well
educated
about
what
what
goes
in
there
and
what
doesn't
go
in
there?
I
know
that
some
people
were
storing
things
in
plastic
bags
and
then
putting
plastic
bag
in
there.
Has
that
become
an
issue
they're.
F
Doing
a
great
job
because
we
are
semi-automated,
the
driver
is
still
lifting
the
lid
and
hooking
it
up
to
the
cart
so
he's
able
to
see
the
contents
if
they
aren't
doing
it
correctly,
they
get
a
tag
and
then
they
call
our
office
and
we
educate
them
and
from
then
on
they
do
it
right.
But
we
don't
issue
very
many
contamination
tags
in
san
bruno
they're,
paying
attention
and
they're
doing
it
right.
Okay,.
B
B
A
Review
the
agenda
item
number
five:
any
comments
on
the
agenda:
okay,
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
city
council,
meeting
of
January,
27
2015
and
special
council
meeting
of
January
27
2015,
any
errors,
Corrections
or
emissions,
seeing
none
will
be
accepted
as
submitted
proved
is
submitted
item
seven
consent
calendar
all
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented
earlier
council
action,
though,
and
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There
will
be
no
separate
discussion
less
requested
by
a
council
member
of
citizen
or
staff
any
through.
A
Okay,
anything
else,
any
action
by
the
council
on
the
remainder
second
motion
is
second
to
approve
item
seven
ABC
and
D
on
the
question.
All
in
favor,
aye,
aye,
post
item,
seven
e
is
adopted
resolution
accepting
funds
from
the
Senior
Center
program
activity,
trust
fund
and
authorizing
appropriation
of
six
thousand
nine
hundred
and
forty
six
dollars
for
purchase
of
a
replacement
refrigerator
for
the
San
Bruno
Senior
Center
nutrition
program.
Just.
E
A
couple
things
if
I
may
on
this
is
that
a
it's
in
need.
So
that's
clearly,
as
I
saw
it
this
evening
too.
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
how
how
does
being
funded,
because
it's
not
out
of
the
general
fund
so
I'd
like
that,
acknowledge
so
that
everyone
understands
what
the
board
is
done
and
what
they're
doing
up
here
in
order
to
help
as
they
always
have
its
been
a
volunteer
organization.
E
B
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council
I'll
do
a
brief
staff
report
and
then
I'll
specifically
address
the
questions
of
councilmember
Medina
we've
been
serving
the
nutrition
program
here
at
the
Senior
Center,
since
the
opening
of
the
Senior
Center
approximately
28
years
ago,
and
when
we
began
delivering
the
lunch
program,
we
were
fortunate
to
receive
a
refrigerator
from
the
San
Bruno
Park
School
District.
That
refrigerator
was
not
new
and
it
had
a
couple
of
years
of
use
in
their
nutrition
program
and
so
that
refrigerator
now
is
approximately
34
years
old.
B
Last
summer
it
began
to
show
some
wear
and
was
leaking
fluid.
We
had
hoped
that
we
would
be
able
to
continue
to
service
that
refrigerator
so
that
we
could
include
it
in
the
regular
flow
of
the
budget
request,
but
it
became
clear
to
us
last
fall
that
we
would
need
to
replace
that
refrigerator
more
quickly.
We
approached
the
senior
advisory
board,
which
is
the
volunteer
body
that
provides
guidance
here
at
the
Senior
Center,
and
they
have
authority
over
what
we
refer
to
as
the
program
and
activity
trust
fund.
B
That
fund
has
an
accumulation
right
now
of
approximately
one
hundred
and
fifty-eight
thousand
dollars
and
is
funded
through
donations
and
program
revenues
through
activities
and
programs
delivered
here
at
the
Senior
Center.
The
senior
advisory
board
generously
unanimously
agreed
to
fund
the
refrigerator,
and
we
are
now
pleased
to
be
able
to
bring
that
forward
to
you
this
evening
for
approval
I
learned
today
that
Recology
has
generously
agreed
to
dispose
of
the
old
refrigerator,
which
we
hope
we
will
be
able
to
do
in
about
a
week's
time.
B
We've
placed
the
order
for
the
new
refrigerator
pending
City
Council's
approval
this
evening,
and
we
should
have
that.
Like
I
said
in
about
seven
days
and
as
soon
as
we
receive
it
will
contact
for
ecology
and
have
them
dispose
of
the
old
refrigerator.
In
the
meantime,
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
the
vendor
that
we're
purchasing
the
refrigerator
from
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
credit
back
in
some
fashion
for
the
disposal
costs
that
they'll
no
longer
incur.
B
Appreciate
the
report
and
I
just
want
everyone
to
know
how
exactly
how
generous
that
nutrition
group
is,
and
it's
a
seven
thousand
dollar
refrigerator.
It's
not
just
a
thousand-dollar
one
from
lowes,
it's
at
seven
thousand
dollar
industrial
refrigerator.
So
we
we've
talked
about
this
refrigerator
several
times
now
and
nobody's
mentioned
the
price.
So
I
just
thought
everyone
should
know
that
it's
a
substantial
amount!
Thank
you
n.
With
that
all
moved
to
prove.
Second,.
A
Motion
second
to
approve
item
7
e
and
a
consent
calendar
all
in
favor,
hi
I'd
have
made
public
hearings.
There
aren't
any
public
hearings
this
evening
item
number
nine
public
comment
and
items
not
on
this
agenda.
Does
the
council's
Paulo
city
refer
matters
raised
in
this
forum
to
staff
for
investigation
and
interaction
where
appropriate,
the
Brown
Act
prohibits
the
council
from
discussing
or
acting
upon
any
matter,
not
agendize
pursuant
to
state
law?
Would
anyone
like
to
address
the
council
under
public
comment.
H
Good
evening
city,
council
members,
mr.
Ruane,
my
name
is
Ison
a
loot
at
my
shoot,
his
Pine
Street,
and
this
is
regarding
previous
comments
that
I
had
made
about
the
San
Mateo
community
college
district.
Previous
president,
jose
sanchez
had
been
working
with
mr.
ken
Ibara
regarding
a
shuttle
that
would
be
beneficial
to
all
students
here
in
san
mateo
county.
It's
a
name
Kenyatta
CSM
in
skyline.
If
you
could,
please
get
the
ball
rolling
for
our
students,
who
have
to
take
the
ECR
or
train
it's
very
costly
for
us
who
do
not
own
vehicles.
H
My
email
address.
I
will
give
to
you
at
the
end
of
my
comment,
also
as
the
law
commissioner
of
this
town,
the
self-appointed
unofficial
but
recognized
within
the
community
volunteer
and
community
activists
and
liaison
between
the
criminals.
You,
members
of
the
City
Council,
the
community
and
law
enforcement.
I
am
in
the
process
of
attempting
to
coordinate
schedules
with
mr.
H
Chief
barberini
and
I
would
like
to
have
a
meeting,
because
I
am
in
the
process
of
filing
action
against
the
san
bruno
police
department,
as
well
as
the
san
mateo
county
for
corruption,
for
example.
I
was
arrested
by,
I
believe
I
cannot
recall
the
name.
It
may
have
been
corporal
Joe
valiante,
but
I
might
be
mistaken,
but
it
happened
at
wendys
and
it
was
for
an
open
container
but
to
be
a
expeditious,
as
my
time
is
running
out
for
resisting
arrest
when
all
I
was
doing
was
saying,
I
don't
have
an
ID.
H
I
do
not
know
if
you
are
aware
of
this,
but
this
is
a
serious
matter
and
it
caused
as
much
detriment
to
people
who
have
never
been
arrested
and
are
scared
for
their
lives
because,
as
you
may
imagine,
if
you've
ever
watched
programs
such
as
locked
in
or
I'm
you're
locked
up,
it
could
be
a
quite
scary,
frightening
experience
to
be
incarcerated
and
have
your
freedom
and
liberties
detained.
So
I
have
for
you
documents
that
I
will
give
to
you
after
my
comment
is
completed,
which
is
right
now.
So
thank
you
just.
A
A
C
C
The
purpose
of
tonight's
presentation
is
to
give
the
City
Council
and
the
community,
and
we
hope
that
there
are
numbers
of
people
watching
at
home,
an
update
and
a
report
on
the
now
four
and
a
half
years,
long
process
of
advocacy
in
action
that
the
city
has
undertaken
in
the
wake
of
the
devastating
September
2010.
A
pipeline
explosion
in
our
town,
I
went
to
first
of
all
acknowledge
the
leadership
provided
by
this
city
council.
C
We
we
had
even
then
virtually
no
idea
what
this
city
would
be
challenged
with
in
producing
a
full
recovery
for
this
community.
In
the
wake
of
that
devastation,
then,
and
immediately
after
the
explosion
in
2010,
City
Council
vowed
to
do
everything
within
its
power
to
rebuild
expeditiously
the
neighborhood
that
was
destroyed
and
to
restore
the
community
and
importantly,
to
support
recovery
of
the
victims
and
of
the
community
that
had
been
traumatized.
C
Much
of
that
work
is
actually
still
I'm
sort
of
sorry
to
report
still
in
progress,
but
the
city
has
achieved
some
very,
very
significant
accomplishments
and
we
we
wanted
to
eliminate
some
of
those
tonight.
But
before
we
go
on
to
the
the
real
meat
of
this
presentation,
I
wanted
to
note
that
this
part
of
our
story
really
begins
in
late
2011
early
2012,
and
focuses
largely
on
the
city's
participation
in
the
proceedings
before
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission.
C
Prior
to
that,
the
city
received
a
couple
of
very,
very
significant
accomplishments
that
are
not
the
subject
of
this
presentation
tonight,
but
deserve
repeating.
The
first
is
the
establishment
of
a
fifty-million-dollar
trust
fund
in
discussion
with
PG&E,
in
order
that
the
city
had
the
funds
and
could
thereby
pursue
all
of
the
necessary
actions
surrounding
rebuilding
restoring
this
community.
C
Subsequent
to
that,
at
the
cities
initiative
City
negotiated
a
restitution
fund
again
with
PG&E
in
order
to
provide
the
opportunity
for
this
community
as
part
of
its
healing
as
part
of
its
recovery,
to
do
some
good
to
provide
some
benefit
in
the
long
term
to
this
community.
In
order
to
address
the
serious
trauma
and
the
lasting
effects
of
the
devastation
that
occurred
here
in
2010.
C
Purpose
again
at
the
presentation
tonight
is
to
give
you
and
members
of
the
public,
specifically
a
report
on
what
is
going
on.
Why
is
it
important
and
most
critically,
why
does
the
city
of
San
Bruno
remain
fully
engaged
in
continuing
to
press
its
agenda
even
after
well,
after
financial
restitution
has
been
secured
and
funds
to
rebuild
the
ethical
devastation
have
been
secured
in
our
in
progress.
C
That
was
confirmed
by
the
NTSB
in
the
first
year
after
the
explosion.
The
NTSB's,
you
know,
conducted
an
exhaustive
year-long
investigation
that
determined
the
multiple
causes
of
the
disaster
and,
most
importantly,
that
investigation
revealed
that
this
disaster
was
not
an
accident.
It
was
not
a
tragic
accident
that
could
not
have
been
predicted
or
prevented.
In
fact,
what
caused
the
explosion
was
multiple
deficiencies,
largely
on
the
part
of
Pacific
Gas
and
Electric
Company,
as
well
as
on
the
part
of
the
cpuc
which
organization
failed
to
effectively
and
rigorously
regulate.
C
In
the
wake
of
the
NTSB
investigation,
its
conclusions,
it's
finding
its
in
its
recommendations,
the
city
identified
five
specific
objectives
that
would
guide
its
work
and
would
attempt
to
right
the
wrong
to
set
the
stage
so
that
the
people
of
San,
Bruno
and
of
ania
need
not
worry
whether
something
like
what
happened
here
might
possibly
happen
again.
Those
five
objectives
have
continued
to
guide
the
city's
effort
and
to
focus
its
work
effort
out
of
all
of
the
avenues
that
we
could
track
down.
C
First,
investigate
the
cause
of
the
explosion,
as
I
mentioned,
that's
been
completed
by
the
NTSB,
but
remains
in
the
latter
stages
of
progress
through
the
NT
I'm.
Sorry
through
the
CPUC,
correct
and
remediate
need
negligent
practices
and
conduct
and
as
we
go
forward
in
our
presentation
tonight,
you'll
see
that
that
remains
very
much.
An
open
issue,
with
new
discoveries
being
made
virtually
on
a
daily
basis.
Even
now,
four
and
a
half
years
later,
penalize
appropriately
and
again.
C
I
would
just
mention
that
this
includes
not
only
the
compensation
and
the
restitution
that
the
city
has
received,
but
more
specifically
addresses
the
actual
fines
and
penalties.
It
will
be
assessed
through
the
CPUC
against
pge,
not
only
as
a
punishment,
if
you
will,
but
as
a
marker
for
utility
companies,
not
only
in
California
but
across
the
nation,
to
identify
that
poor
behavior,
poor
management
of
system
assets
can
result
in
devastating
financial
consequence
and
I
would
pause
here
to
just
note
for
a
moment
that
under
California
law,
fines
and
penalties
do
not
affect
rates.
C
So
shareholders
will
be
responsible
for
those
costs
that
are
directly
attributable
to
fines
and
penalties.
Those
costs
will
not
result
in
increase
rates
for
customers
of
the
utility
system.
Importantly,
ensuring
safety
improvements
it.
It
remains
a
guidepost
in
the
city,
work
effort
and
taking
efforts
as
that
that
we
can,
in
conjunction
with
others,
to
reform
the
regulatory
system,
and
that
in
large
measure,
is
a
part
and
parcel
of
what
our
conversation
with
you
tonight
is
about.
C
C
Second,
the
city
vowed
to
correct
and
remediate
negligent
practices.
The
cpuc
has
found
over
3000
separate
violations
of
law
occurring
over
a
period
extending
back
over
50
years.
70
corrective
actions
have
been
identified
as
needed,
and
a
proposed
1.4
billion
dollar
penalty
and
fine
is
pending
for
decision
before
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission.
C
C
As
to
the
city's
objective
related
to
you,
penalizing
appropriately,
the
fines
and
penalties
that
are
proposed
to
be
assessed
against
pge
represent
a
historic
level
actually
prior
to
the
explosion.
Here
in
San
Bruno
and
the
fine
and
the
proceedings
in
which
San
Bruno
has
engaged.
There
have
been
a
really
very
minimal
amount
of
fines
and
penalties
assessed
and,
in
fact,
as
we
have
continued
participation
in
these
proceedings,
we
have
actually
I
think
we
can
take
pride
in
the
fact
that
the
CPUC
recognizes
and
has
begun
to
step
up
to
evaluate
and
penalize
appropriately
again.
C
The
city
of
san
bruno
inc
importantly
continues
to
push
for
to
improvements
that
that
address
directly
the
needs
and
the
objectives
that
we
outlined
several
years
ago,
but
are
not
yet
assured,
and
those
are
the
establishment
of
an
independent
monitor
at
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission,
to
assure
oversight
of
the
Commission's
activities
and
its
regulatory
procedures
in
order
to
establish
and
assure
the
that
a
culture
of
safety
takes
hold
and
begins
to
frame
and
shape
all
of
the
decisions
in
the
activities
that
the
CPUC
is
responsible.
For
again,
that
is
not
yet
the
case.
C
That
pipeline
safety,
trust
known
as
the
national
pipeline
safety
trust,
has
been
a
vigorous
advocate
for
pipeline
safety,
for
legislative
initiative
and
for
regulatory
reform
across
our
nation.
Their
work
is
important.
It
is,
it
is
a
very
small
organization
and
although
it's
had
a
mighty
impact,
its
work
needs
particular
focus
in
California.
D
Mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
of
what
you
see
on
your
screen
is
the
lawsuit
that
you
authorized
the
city
to
file
against
the
public
utilities,
commission
for
the
disclosure
of
public
records
and,
as
you
know,
that
lawsuit
came
only
after
multiple
and
lengthy
attempts
were
made
by
the
city
to
get
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
to
comply
with
state
law
regarding
the
disclosure
of
public
records.
D
Ultimately,
is
you
also
know
and
authorized?
The
case
was
settled.
It
was
resolved
the
settlements,
a
matter
of
public
record
and
as
a
result
of
that
settlement
about
seven
thousand
emails
were
disclosed
by
the
PUC.
Those
emails
showed
about
40
instances.
That's
40
instances
of
what
the
city
felt
were
improper
ex
parte
communications
and
just
to
explain
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
in
improper
ex
parte
communication
is
one
in
which
executive
level,
members
of
the
public
utilities
commission
we're
having
conversations
undisclosed
conversations
with
the
same
level
or
similar
level.
D
D
The
very
first
one
is
something
that's
an
example
of
the
the
parties
discussing
how
they're
going
to
violate
the
ex
parte
rules,
which
they
otherwise
tell
everybody
that
they
either
follow
or
don't
know
enough
whether
to
follow
or
not.
So
this
is
an
example
of
something
in
which
the
city
believes
should
not
be
occurring.
You
shouldn't
have
parties
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
violate
the
rules
and
then
the
second
email
on
there,
I
think,
is
just
shortly
after
the
explosion
and
I
think
it
speaks
for
itself.
D
Let
me
pause
for
just
a
minute
and
ask
the
question:
what
what
did
the
city
learn
from
its
Public
Records
Act
case
at
the
settlement
and
the
subsequent
fall
out?
I?
Think
we've
really
learned
one
major
thing,
and
that
is
that
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
is
not
accountable
to
the
public,
your
constituents
and
there's
three
main
reasons
for
that.
The
first
reason
I
should
say
all
of
those
reasons
are
grounded
in
state
statute
in
state
law
passed
by
the
legislature.
D
So
the
first
reason,
they're
not
accountable
to
your
constituents,
is
that
state
law
says
that
all
information
that
flows
from
a
public
utility
to
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
is
confidential.
There
is
a
presumption
of
confidentiality
for
all
information,
and
that
is
one
of
the
basis
that
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
used
to
deny
our
request
for
information.
They
said,
look
at
state
law.
It
says
it's
confidential.
We
can't
possibly
produce
it
because
then
we'd
be
violating
state
law.
D
Well,
that
is
the
opposite
of
the
presumption
for
all
local
agencies,
the
city
of
San
Bruno
and
every
other
state
agency.
Where
information
that
is
sent
from
somebody
to
the
city
is
presumed
not
to
be
confidential,
it
is
presumed
to
be
a
matter
of
public
record
unless
shown
otherwise.
So
that's
the
first
state
law
that
results
in
the
lack
of
transparency.
D
The
second
state
law
says
that
members
of
the
public,
your
constituents,
while
they
can
sue
the
city
in
superior
court-
and,
incidentally,
you
had
a
member
of
the
public
coming
up
tonight,
saying
that
that
you
may
be
interested
in
doing
that.
While
those
individuals
can
sue
you
in
superior
court,
they
can
sue
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
in
superior
court.
They
can
only
sue
the
Public
Utilities
Commission
about
important
matters
in
the
appellate
court
or
the
Supreme
Court
of
California.
D
D
That
is
the
opposite,
of
course,
for
every
other
local
agency
in
the
state
and
virtually
every
other
state
agency,
where
members
of
the
public
who
are
aggrieved
by
a
decision
can
simply
file
a
lawsuit
in
superior
court.
It's
local,
its
accessible,
it's
inexpensive
and
you
can
usually
find
a
lawyer
to
represent
you
not
the
case
in
appellate
court.
D
The
last
thing
we
learned
is
that,
while
the
ex
parte
rules
have
not
been
followed,
actually
there's
a
deeper
problem-
local
agencies,
like
you,
when
you
have
ex
parte
contacts
with
people
coming
to
you
for
development
applications
or
other
businesses.
You
are
required
to
report
those
communications
before
you
make
a
decision
and
in
fact,
you'll
remember
both
on
the
Planning
Commission
agenda.
In
on
your
City
Council
agenda
before
development
applications,
we
have
a
section
that
encourages
all
of
the
council
members
to
disclose
their
ex
parte
contacts.
That's
not
the
rule.
D
At
the
cpuc
at
the
CPUC,
the
commissioners
don't
have
to
report
any
ex
parte
contacts.
It's
the
private
entity
that
has
to
report
the
ex
parte
contacts.
So
then,
you
might
ask
yourself
whats
the
remedy.
If
the
private
entity
doesn't
report
the
ex
parte
contacts
and
the
answer,
is
there
really
isn't
any
because
a
all
of
the
communications
are
confidential
and
B,
even
if
they
weren't
you
can't
sue
them
in
Superior
Court?
So
the
combination
of
these
three
state
laws
are
what
we
believe.
D
D
We
also
have
ongoing
criminal
investigations
of
both
PG&E
the
corporation
and
a
number
of
individuals,
so
those
proceedings
are
are
going
forward
and
we'll
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see
what
happens
so.
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
the
city's
case
and
the
City
Council's
courage
in
taking
a
perhaps
risky,
perhaps
unpopular
decision
to
go
ahead
and
Sue.
D
Another
public
agency,
which
is
an
unusual
thing
to
do,
really
was
the
catalyst
for
all
of
the
many
things
that
have
occurred
and
the
revelations
that
have
opened
up
since
then
and
have
exposed
the
fact
that
it's
state
law
that
needs
to
be
changed
in
order
to
truly
reformed
the
Public
Utilities
Commission.
So
at
this
point,
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Connie.
So
she
can
conclude
the
presentation,
great.
C
Commission,
commissioner
picker
president
picker
has
committed
to
a
new
commission
code
of
conduct
under
his
leadership.
The
Commission
recently
ordered
the
release
of
the
65,000
emails,
as
a
city
attorney
reported
just
a
moment
ago,
and
the
Commission
has
begun
to
acknowledge
inappropriate
illegal
access
and
relationship
with
the
utilities
regulated
under
their
jurisdiction.
C
Commitment
to
change
is
a
good
thing.
It's
a
great
start.
It's
not
the
same
thing
as
actual
tangible,
sustainable
change,
that's
what's
necessary
and
that's
what
this
initiative
is
really
all
about.
I've
been
approached
a
number
of
times,
sir
people
have
said.
Well,
you
have
devoted
you.
The
city
of
san
berdo
has
devoted
a
tremendous
amount
of
time,
effort
and
resource
to
this
to
the
various
action
and
initiatives
that
you've
undertaken
and
something
is
really
happening
now
see.
Numbers
of
people
are
gone.
C
People
are
saying
the
right
thing,
you've
done
it,
isn't
it
isn't
that
what
you
were
looking
for
it
again,
I
would
say.
Yes,
it's
a
great
start,
and
it
takes
time
to
assure
that
the
tangible
reform
actually
takes
hold
and
that
the
change
that
is
sorely
needed
to
protect
the
safety
of
citizens
of
this
state
actually
take
hold,
and
so
we
can
be
proud.
Numbers
of
important
initiatives
have
borne
fruit.
C
They've
been
completed
and
they've
made
a
difference
without
ooh,
without
attempting
to
signal
what
we
haven't
done
in
favor
of
or
as
a
priority
over
the.
What
we
have
done,
I
would
I
would
jump
to
the
bottom
of
this
list
and
say
that
there
is
still
a
fair
amount
of
work
to
do
by
us
by
others
to
assure
that
the
penalty
actually
results
in
a
safer
system.
Good
progress
result
not
yet
achieved
an
importantly
reform
of
a
broken
system,
a
broken
system
of
utility
operation
and
a
broken
system
of
utility
regulation.
C
Our
initiatives
have
resulted
in
a
conclusion,
among
others,
that
actual
change
will
require
legislative
action
and
initiative
that
again
is
appearing
to
take
hold
our
legislature,
Jerry
Hill.
In
particular.
Now
a
state
senator
has
been
singularly
active
and
aggressive
in
forwarding
legislation.
Numbers
of
other
legislators
have
begun
to
take
notice
and
to
take
action
that
we
hope
will
actually
begin
to
change
the
rules
by
which
the
CPUC
operates
and
strengthen
the
effect
of
the
regulatory
environment.
C
Lastly,
I'd
like
to
just
acknowledge
the
recognition
that
the
city
has
received
I
think
it's
very
fair
to
say-
and
this
is
just
some
among
many
acknowledgments-
that
the
city
has
has
received
that
have
been
openly
discussed.
I
think
it's
fair
to
say:
had
it
not
been
for
the
cities
initiative
to
take
that
difficult
action
to
sue
the
Public
Utilities
Commission.
Many
of
the
pieces
of
information
that
belong
in
this
puzzle
would
still
be
under
under
cover.
C
I
think
you
should
take
personal
credit
for
this
as
well
on
behalf
of
the
leadership
of
the
community
of
San
Bruno
and
recognizing
that
preventing
tragedy
or
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
prevent
tragedy
from
happening
elsewhere
is
a
critical
piece
of
this
community's
healing
a
peace
and
security
that
no
amount
of
restitution
funds
can
buy
or
secure
for
the
citizens
of
San
Bruno,
who
have
been
so
irreparably
damaged
before
I
close
I
just
like
to
introduce
and
acknowledge
the
work.
Three
people
there
was
four
people.
I'm
sorry.
C
E
I
I
don't
have
any
questions,
I
just
like
to
say
four
and
a
half
years
and
sitting
up
here
with
this
team
and
mr.
mayor,
you
have
been
uncanny
and
almost
perfect
in
how
we
should
have
acted,
I
can't
think
of
any
other,
better
ways
but
proud
of
how
you've
represented
the
city
and
how
you've
dealt
with
not
only
running
a
city,
but
also
this
unusual
and
catastrophic.
A
Is
you
bring
it
back
to
that
evening
when
eight
people
lost
their
lives
and
that's
what
this
is
all
about
and
I've
said
before
you
know,
in
sam
brenner,
way
of
eight
angels
on
our
shoulders
and
a
lot
of
other
people,
and
you
saw
tonight
on
the
presentation,
have
a
lives
and
their
conscience
we're
finding
out
a
lot
of
those
people,
don't
have
much
of
a
conscience
but
we're
trying
to
make
it
different.
So
we
owe
it
to
them.
A
We
owe
to
the
families
that
lost
their
homes
and
the
people
that
are
traumatized,
so
we
have
a
little
ways
to
go,
but
we're
going
to
keep
doing
it,
we're
not
gonna,
let
it
go.
Thank
you
item
10b,
adopt
a
resolution
authorizing
the
transfer
from
the
city's
custodial
account
to
the
san
bruno
community
foundation
of
number
1
350
thousand
dollars
for
operational
expenses
and
to
140
1031
dollars
to
be
reimbursed
by
the
san
berdo
community
foundation
to
the
city
of
san
bruno
for
san
bruno
community
foundation,
formation
expenses,
good.
D
D
Let
me
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background.
As
you
may
remember,
the
resolution
of
the
settlement
with
PG&E
was
70
million
dollars.
Sixty
eight
and
three-quarter
million
of
those
dollars
are
in
a
city
custodial
account.
One
in
a
quarter
million
dollars
will
be
added
approximately
once
the
crestmore
lot
escrow
with
castle
companies
closes
that
you
approved
at
one
of
your
recent
meetings,
and
that
should
happen
by
mid-april
so
that
total
70
million
dollars
is,
is
there
and
will
be
there
for
the
foundation
separately.
D
As
you
know,
the
glenview
trust
was
funded
with
50
million
dollars
and
an
independent
trustee
appointed
to
oversee
that
trust,
approved
the
formation
expenses
for
the
san
bruno
community
foundation,
the
end
of
februari
of
2014,
but
once
the
board
started
regular
meetings,
which
were
in
March,
the
trustee
directed
that
the
foundation
pay
for
all
of
their
expenses
on
their
own
essentially
pay
their
own
way
after
they
started
the
regular
meetings.
So
the
board
has
now
hired
an
executive
director,
the
board
and
the
foundation
need
operating
capital
to
pay
her
salary
and
other
operating
expenses.
D
At
the
same
time,
the
board
is
not
quite
ready
to
accept
all
the
funds.
First,
they
have
to
adopt
an
investment
policy,
that's
subject
to
your
approval
and
they
need
to
retain
an
investment
advisor
they're
in
the
process
of
doing
that
by
issuing
an
RFP,
that's
going
to
be
developed
by
the
board
actually
at
their
at
their
next
meeting.
So
the
city
does
anticipate
the
future
transfer
of
all
of
those
remaining
funds
to
the
foundation.
D
D
That's
consistent
with
the
operating
budget
that
you
approved
that
the
board
approved
as
well.
That
was
sent
to
the
IRS,
and
even
though
that
budget
was
estimated
and
based
on
reasonable
estimates,
the
board
will
have
to
come
up
with
its
own
budget,
but
I
think
that
both
the
foundation
and
staff
believe
that
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
a
reasonable
amount
of
money
and
is
consistent
with
everything
that
was
in
that
budget.
So
that's
the
first
request
for
tonight.
D
The
second
request
is
to
transfer
140
1031
dollars
and
thirty-three
cents
we
forgot
the
33
cents
to
reimburse
the
city
for
post,
March,
2014
operating
expenses
and
you'll.
Remember
these
are
the
operating
expenses
that
the
trustee
of
the
irrevocable
trust
said
should
be
borne
by
the
foundation
and
not
by
the
trust
and
by
extension,
not
by
the
city.
The
bulk
of
of
those
funds
were
expended
for
by
the
foundation
for
its
executive
director
search,
the
rest
of
it
is
outlined
in
the
staff
report
was
for
insurance,
some
outside
legal
fees,
supplies
and
so
on.
D
So
the
idea
is
that
out
of
the
city's
custodial,
account
will
come
one
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
dollars
to
the
foundation,
and
then
the
foundation
who
will
have
set
up
their
own
bank
account
will
then
reimburse
the
city
that
exact
amount.
You're
wondering
why
go
through
that
rigmarole?
Why
can't
the
city
just
transfer
the
money
from
one
account
into
another?
D
The
answer
to
that
is
because
it's
important
for
audit
purposes
that
the
money
be
transferred
from
the
custodial
account
to
the
foundation
and
then
back
so
both
the
city
and
the
foundation
have
that
same
paper
trail
and
they
can
track
what
what
the
money
is
for.
It's
important
also
to
note
that
the
city
is
not
going
to
request
reimbursement
from
the
trust
has
not
requested
and
will
not
request
reimbursement
from
the
trust
for
that
amount.
D
So,
in
other
words,
once
the
city's
paid
back
from
the
foundation,
the
city
will
be
whole
in
terms
of
the
expenses
that
it's
that
it's
had
with
one
minor
exception.
There's
a
twelve
thousand
dollar
bill
from
the
executive
director
search
consultant,
the
very
last
portion
of
their
contract
that
was
approved
by
the
board,
which
just
arrived
today
so
will
account
for
that
in
the
final
distribution
when
the
rest
of
the
money
is
transferred.
D
So
for
tonight
the
total
transfer
is
490
1031
dollars
and
thirty-three
cents
I'll
work
with
Vicki
to
amend
that
resolution
to
include
the
33
cents
and
then
once
that's
accomplished,
the
foundation
can
be
on
its
way
at
least
we're
for
the
short-term.
The
city
can
be
reimbursed
in
the
short
term
and
we'll
look
forward
to
transferring
the
rest
of
the
funds
once
the
foundation
has
its
investment
advisor
and
policy.
That
concludes
my
report.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
A
Item
10c
adopt
a
resolution
authorizing
acceptance
of
a
technical
assistance
grant
from
the
federal
pipeline
and
hazardous
materials.
Safety
Administration
or
pipeline
safety
advocacy
initiatives
in
the
amount
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
contract
with
the
pipeline
safety
coalition
in
the
amount
of
$25,000
for
grant
administration.
C
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I
just
completed
a
lengthy
presentation
about
numbers
of
initiatives
that
the
city
has
individually
undertaken
as
part
of
its
response
and
actions
directed
at
recovery
in
the
wake
of
the
2010
explosion
and
fire
in
our
community.
The
subject
matter
before
you
tonight,
a
technical
assistance
grant
from
fins
of
the
federal
pipeline
and
hazardous
materials.
C
Safety
Administration
is
another
initiative
that
was
actually
begun
by
after
outreach
from
Mayor
Ed
Pawlowski
of
Allentown
Pennsylvania
shortly
after
a
similarly
devastating
gas
pipeline
explosion
occurred
in
that
town,
coincidentally,
exactly
four
years
ago
today,
on
February
tenth
2011,
just
six
months
after
the
explosion.
Here
mere
pawlowski
proposed
to
marry
Wayne
the
idea
of
establishment
of
a
bicoastal
mirrors
organization
to
advocate,
educate
and
to
otherwise
facilitate
legislative
and
other
reform
necessary
to
bring
about
a
safer
gas
utility
system,
particularly
in
populated
communities.
C
C
Working
with
the
pipeline
safety
coalition,
this
city
and
the
city
of
allentown
individually
filed
grant
applications
for
the
2015
grant
year,
and
each
of
us
were
awarded
a
grant
by
city
policy.
They
any
grant
are
required
to
be
accepted
formally
by
the
city
council
and
and
acknowledged
in
order
for
any
grant
funds
to
to
be
paid
out.
C
The
grant
awarded
to
the
city
is
in
the
maximum
amount
through
the
finsih
program
of
50
thousand
dollars,
and
it
generally
covers
a
work
program
that
is
focused
around
some
of
the
issues
that
were
identified
as
being
relevant
to
our
causal
factors
of
the
explosion.
Here
in
2010,
the
grant
provides
for
contract
with
the
pipeline
safety
coalition.
To
actually
do
the
staff
work
to
coordinate
with
experts
in
the
development
of
white
papers
and
best
practice.
C
Recommendations
on
the
topics
that
the
grant
identifies
and
is
intended
to
the
grant
is
intended
to
provide
a
self-sufficient
self-supporting
program
and
operations
so
that
the
the
grant
funded
activities
do
not
expect
and
should
not
impact
the
regular
city,
work
program
or
city
resources
other
than
those
that
are
provided
directly
through
the
grant.
I
did
take
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
film's
of
website
and
I
would
encourage
interested
members
of
the
council
to
do
that
as
well.
C
E
C
The
25,000
is
essentially
the
legwork
staff
work
to
support
the
development
of
the
white
papers
and
the
technical
evaluation
that
the
grant
funded
program
envisions.
So
under
the
so.
In
order
to
avoid
impacting
the
city's
staff
work
program,
the
contract
would
provide
for
staff
services
to
be
provided
by
the
grassroots,
not-for-profit
pipeline
safety
coalition.
That
is
has
connections
and
is,
is
is
operating
themselves
within
this
environment
to
to
produce
the
work
program.
That
has
that
the
outline
that
that
the
grant
funds
are
intended
so.
E
E
I
also,
if
I
could
mr.
mayor
I
just
went
on
to
the
mayor's
Council
on
pipeline
safety.
I
think
it's
great
to
I
mean
it's
it's
effective
because
it
shows
three
fairly
current
within
the
last
five
years,
san
bruno
being
the
first
one
major
catastrophes
on
pipelines-
and
this
is
I-
think
what
I've
mentioned.
C
That's
happened
with
a
little
bit
too
much
frequency
since,
since
the
explosion
here
in
San
Bruno,
but
also
to
engage
labor
interested
citizens
and
industry
representatives
as
well,
for
sort
of
a
multi-faceted
membership
led
by
elected
mayors,
whose
interests
of
representing
citizens
in
real
communities
where
these
things
have
actually
happened
to
to
put
together
a
work
program.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
other
grassroots
organizations
that
have
organized
around
advocates
landowners
whose
property
is
being
taken
by
big
oil
companies
who
are
bringing
you
know
big
pipelines
through
their
their
rural
areas.
G
Little
chair,
yeah
I,
think
I
was
a
little
confused
too
trying
to
get
through
the
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
acronyms
in
here,
and
it
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on.
So
basically,
fins
up
puts
up
a
grant
the
city
of
San
Bruno
applied
for
the
grant,
we're
going
to
take
that
grant
and
give
a
portion
of
that
to
the
pipeline
safety
coalition
to
do
work
on
behalf
of
the
mayor's
Council
on
pipeline
safety.
Yeah
that.
G
C
I
would
only
point
out
that
the
mayor's
Council
is
really
not
yet
even
really
a
organized
organization,
so
it
doesn't
really
have
the
ability
to
do
it
itself
unless
Jim
and
I
and
it
Pawlowski
where
to
actually
do
the
work
and
we're
we're
at
capacity
on
work.
So
so
so
this
is
really
an
opportunity
to
put
this
initiative
forward.
Get
this
organization
on
his
feet,
produce
some
tangible
work
product
and
begin
to
develop,
possibly
a
more
stable
funding
source.
Certainly,
these
tag
grants
are
likely
to
be
available.
C
G
C
So
that
so
the
grant
work
program,
as
I
said,
calls
for
the
development
of
best
practice
white
papers.
It
also
includes
the
budget
the
$50,000
was
allocated
in
the
grant
proposal
for
there's
some
travel
involved
for
for
Jim
to
meet
with,
with
Ed
and
other
mayor's
to
to
further
the
interests
of
the
of
the
mayor's
Council.
There's
I
believe
some
intent
to
use
some
of
the
funds
for
expert
consulting
assistance
to
develop
the
best
practice
recommendations.
So
there's
the
the
$50,000
is
spoken
for
to
deliver
the
work
program.
C
C
B
A
C
B
I
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council
Jimmy
tan
city
engineer,
a
shelter
creek
development
was
constructed
in
the
late
1960s
to
early
1970s,
it's
located
and
bounded
by
west
of
a
280
sembra
Avenue
Whitman
way
and
shelter.
Creek
lane
part
to
develop
development.
Utility
easements
were
established
for
the
installation
of
water,
sewer
and
storm
systems
to
serve
the
complex,
but
one
utility
that
has
been
problematic
is
the
water
system.
The
water
pipelines,
you
know
ranges
from
six
to
twelve
inches
in
diameter
and
there
are
other
cast
iron
metallic
pipes.
I
One
of
the
water
pipelines
were
constructed
within
the
easements.
They
are
also
direct
directly
adjacent
to
the
buildings
which
restrict
access
for
maintenance
staff
to
repair
the
water
lines
when
the
break
occurs
since
1982
durban,
seven
water
main
breaks
that
occurred
as
recently
as
one
in
October
of
2014,
the
majority
water
main
breaks
in
the
past
were
concentrated
around
a.
I
Building
number
seven,
which
is
located
over
here,
the
main
breaks,
cost
the
significant
property
damage
within
the
residential
property,
where
the
water
flowed
into
the
buildings
and
flooded
the
residential
units
resulting
in
sediment
claims
for
restoration
of
those
effective
of
properties
in
1999,
the
city
conducted
an
evaluation
determined
the
cause
of
these
water
main
breaks.
An
investigation
consisted
of
excavating
six
different
pits
around
building
number,
seven
and
and
where
majority
breaks
occurred,
soil
samples
were
taken
and
the
pipe
sections
were
cut
to
determine.
You
know
what
was
the
cause
of
these
all
water
main
breaks.
I
The
investigation
concluded
that
the
mains
were
indeed
corroding,
because
there
was
no
corrosion
protection
systems
that
work
that
was
installed
during
the
initial
construction.
The
investigation
resulted,
you
know
to
the
replacement
of
the
portion
of
the
water
line
around
building
number
seven
with
the
PVC
pipe
nonmetallic
pipe.
This
water
main
project
well
for
shelter
creep,
was
originally
identified
in
a
master
plan
and
water
master
plan
has
priority
three
a
project
of
lower
party.
I
But,
however,
no
project
is
being
excavated
in
the
party
because
of
the
risk
of
flood
related
damage
to
adjacent
properties
and
to
prevent
future
main
breaks
on
the
site.
This
project
was
discussed
with
the
utility
subcommittee
meeting
on
over
12
and
also
included
in
the
fiscal
year
2014-15
CIP,
which
was
a
approved
on
january
27th.
I
Using
the
survey
that
we
received
from
from
this
contract
once
the
alignment
established
and
will
go
forward
with
an
RFP
to
get
consultant,
services
for
final
design,
RFP
for
the
serving
services
was
sent
to
serving
companies
and
I
was
also
advertised
on
the
city's
website
back
in
November
2014
and
the
city
received
a
seven
proposals
and
evaluated
them
based
on
firms.
Qualifications,
project
managers
in
the
team's
experience
and
the
approach
to
reduce
the
overall
cost
of
these
survey
work
the
cost
of
ranges
from
56,000
all
the
way.
I
240,000
so,
based
on
the
evaluation
staff
is
recommending
towel
to
provide
the
professional
serving
services
for
this
project.
Tau
has
over
fifty
nine
years
of
surveying
and
mapping
experience
and
has
to
successfully
provided
the
service
to
many
public
agencies
throughout
California,
such
as
a
city,
Oakland,
San,
Francisco
and
San
Jose.
The
scope
of
work
includes
establishing
horizontal
vertical
controls,
feel
verification,
utility
research
and
providing
the
base
map
that
include
that's
inclusive,
all
the
other
surface
feature
and
underground
utilities.
I
I
I
Assess
this
correct,
so
what's
what's
going
to
happen
in
some
Dobby
area,
photography
done
on
his
site,
so
they
will
fly
and
take
a
photographic
image
of
the
beach
decide
from
there.
The
the
surveyors
would
do
what
perform
ground
survey,
and
so
it
will
go
to
the
site.
They'll
have
a
utility
locator
locate
all
the
existing
utilities,
then
a
survey
or
a
ground
survey
crew
will
go
in
there
and
start
serving
all
the
markings
and
of
the
of
the
utility
locations
and
then
the.
E
J
J
G
Recall
seventh
Avenue
I
read
the
agenda
packet
online
and
I
guess
you
said
it
didn't
go
out
to
bid,
but
you
did
send
out
a
request
for
proposals
in
the
past.
You
have
listed
the
individual
proposals
and
the
estimate
that
the
city
engineer
or
whatever
has
has
come
in
with
how?
How
does
the
the
dollar
amount
that
you're
asking
to
be
awarded?
How
does
that
relate
to
what
the
city
engineer
felt
the
cost
should
be?
G
A
I
Did
evaluate
that
and
it's
it's,
the
RFP
was
very
detailed
and
all
the
scope
of
work
that
were
provided
by
the
consulting
firms
were
very
similar
to
the
scope
of
work
that
we
had
indicated
in
the
RFP.
So
it
was
just
the
overall
manpower
allocations
that
the
the
consultants
know
determined
for
the
need
of
the
the
project.
Okay,.
B
I
have
a
I
have
just
I'm
just
so
curious.
Why,
with
google
maps
google
earth,
why
do
we
need
anyone
flying
over
there?
I
mean
you
have
a
fabulous
picture
already.
Why
do
we
need
anyone
flying
over
and
taking
a
picture
was
one
why
three
months,
it's
not
that
big
of
an
area.
Why
does
it
take
three
months
to
find
the
waterline.
I
B
B
J
You
how's
member
O'connell,
also
in
regards
to
your
questions
about
google
map
you're
correct.
We
have
google
maps
now
and
they're
they're
very
useful.
However,
if
you
go
on
google
map
and
try
to
zoom
in
let's
say
on
your
house,
you
could
see
how
far
the
scale
goes.
After
a
certain
point,
you
basically
don't
have
the
accuracy,
so
you
could
have
you
could
see
your
house,
you
can
see
where
approximately
the
locations
of
the
features
are.
But
this
is
a
photogram
ettore,
which
is
an
exact
science
/
for
surveying
and
by
California
law.