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From YouTube: City Council Meeting September 20, 2022
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00:07:42 CALL TO ORDER
00:09:40 Oral Communications (Part 1)
00:33:25 Consent Calendar
00:45:00 5. Reports
01:11:27 6. CLOSED SESSION
02:07:15 7A. HUNGER MONTH PROCLAMATION
02:13:33 7B. AUGUST UPDATE ON HOMELESS ISSUE
02:18:21 10A. CAPISTRANO SHORES MOBILE HOME PARK - LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR HEIGHT OF REPLACEMENT COACHES
02:37:36 8A. 2021-2022 CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION REPORT (CAPER) FOR EXPENDITURE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
02:39:00 8B. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE REVISED HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE
02:42:42 10B. CITY OF SAN CLEMENTE EFFORTS REGARDING E-BIKE SAFETY
03:08:21 10C. EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATING AGREEMENT (ENA) WITH PACIFIC MEDICAL BUILDINGS (PMB) REGARDING THE PARCEL AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AVENIDA VISTA HERMOSA AND AVENIDA LA PATA
03:16:37 11. Reports
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Please
rise
if
you
would
God
Almighty
creator
of
Heaven
and
Earth.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
life
and
breath
and
everything
that
we
enjoy.
Thank
you
for
these
council
chambers,
where
the
people
of
this
town
can
conduct
business,
help
our
business
to
be
glorifying
to
you.
We
thank
you
again
in
the
name
of
our
Lord
and
Savior
Jesus
amen.
E
F
F
Nope
oral
Communications
members
of
the
audience
wish
to
address
Counsel
on
matters
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
city
of
San
Clemente,
but
not
separately,
listed
on
the
agenda
may
do
so
during
the
oral
Communications
portion
of
the
meeting
speakers
May
address
Council
once
during
either
oral
Communications
part,
1
or
part
two.
A
total
time
limitation
of
30
minutes
is
allocated
for
oral
Communications
part
one
with
each
speaker
being
allotted
three
minutes
in
which
to
give
their
presentation.
Is
that
another
one?
G
C
F
H
G
H
And
welcome
this
is
a
great
facility
that
was
built
and
congratulations
to
the
city.
Last
session,
Mr
noblock
suggested
rotating
department
heads
at
the
interim
manager.
Instead,
we
were
informed
that
Mr
Joyce
was
needed.
Now
by
other
council
members,
Mr
James,
Duncan
and
Mr
Joyce
failed
to
inform
the
council
that
in
two
weeks
Mr
Joyce
is
on
vacation
for
four
weeks
and
in
his
absence
he
will
have
to
or
he
will
likely
appoint
department
heads
exactly
what
Steve
asked
to
do.
H
This
was
intentional
deceitful
and
not
transparent.
When
asked
Mr
Joyce
said
he
was
unaware
that
the
three
council
members,
Kathy,
Ward
and
and
Steve
noblock
and
Laura
Ferguson
were
not
told
that
he
would
be
on
vacation
shortly
after
taking
the
job.
It's
inexplicable
that
Mr
Joyce
failed
to
read
the
Agenda
Report,
because,
obviously,
if
they
had
been
told
it
would
have
been
a
brown
act
violation.
H
During
discussions,
Miss
Ferguson
cited
an
article
in
the
Orange
County
Register.
The
Mr
Joyce
had
been
driving
a
city-owned
car
after
drinking
alcohol.
He
had
failed
to
inform
the
council
that
until
after
his
contact
was
renewed,
I
don't
know
if
it's
true
or
false,
but
at
least
the
issue
was
raised
and
immediately
Scott
Smith
interrupted,
shut,
Laura
down,
I'm,
sorry,
Ms,
Ferguson
down
and
it
addressed
it
went
into
closed
session.
H
I
asked
her
a
full
explanation,
because
I've
reviewed
the
government
code
and
there's
no
provision
in
the
government
code
to
allow
the
city
council
to
go
into
closed
session
to
discuss
the
legal
issue.
In
fact,
if
Scott
felt
there
was
some
problem
with
discussing
this
issue,
he
this
should
have
been
discussed
in
Open
Session.
He
should
have
provided
the
reason
and
he
didn't
provide
a
reason
and
if
it
was
an
emergency
that
wouldn't
qualify
for
closed
session,
it
would
have
taken
four
council
members,
but
it's
not
an
emergency
issue.
H
So
this
seems
to
be
a
pure
violation
of
the
law
by
Scott.
Smith
and
I'll
inform
you
of
another
one
later
on
tonight.
Mr
Smith
forced
the
council
to
retire
to
closed
session
and
I
believe
this
is
a
pure
brown
act.
Violation
Mr
Smith's
required
to
explain
to
this
Council
on
the
citizens.
Why
such
Cindy
is
important
as
a
city
interim
manager
was
not
allowed
to
be
discussed
in
public.
Obviously
you're
not
going
to
just
discuss
positive
things,
you're
going
to
ask
positive
negative
and
ask
our
new
city
manager,
Sean
Joyce
questions.
H
Mr
Smith
is
a
parliamentarian
and
a
City
attorney
tonight
on
closed
session.
There's
an
item
about
pickleball
they're
required
to
provide
all
documents
relevant
to
knowing
that
it's
a
threat
of
litigation.
Only
one
document
was
provided
an
email
from
a
few
days
or
weeks
ago,
but
the
only
thing
that's
really
indicative
of
a
lawsuit
would
be
the
claim
that
was
filed.
Mr
Smith
informed
me
that
in
his
mind
that
wasn't
a
relevant
document,
that's
a
lot
of
BS.
H
E
I
have
a
I
just
have
a
concern
and
I
want
to
clarify
this.
So
the
speaker
was
talking
about
the
closed
session
items.
I
have
I
emailed
City
attorney
and
a
city
manager
wrote
me
back
and
indicated
that
the
announcement
of
those
closed
session
items
would
be
verbally
disclosed
tonight,
along
with
a
document
relevant
document
on
the
threat
of
litigation.
Is
that
available
interim
city
manager
and
City
attorney
for
the
public
to
see.
I
Oh
yeah,
mayor
and
Council
we're
not
to
that
point
in
the
agenda
yet,
but
the
brown
act
requires
thank
you
for
raising
that
the
other
day
at
the
point
that
we
are,
that
I
explain
that
how
I
concluded
that
there
was
a
exposure
litigation
and
we
make
available
documents
which
we'll
do
when
you,
when
you
get
to
that
point
on
your
agenda,
if
you
could
spread
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
J
Letting
us
come
to
approach
you
tonight,
I'm
coming
because
of
the
community
polls.
We
have
classes
down
there
and
many
of
us
are
handicapped.
Most
of
us
are
and
they've
moved
us
from
Vista
Hermosa
down
to
ollie
Hanson.
We
can't
park
that
there's
not
enough
handicaps,
there's
a
lot
of
Hills.
We
can't
get
into
the
pool
because
the
steps
are
too
deep.
So
I
don't
recognize
the
class
anymore
that
everybody's
falling
off
or
a
pretty
consistent
group.
We
come
all
the
way
through
the
winter
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
switch
was.
J
They
try
to
say
it
has
to
do
with
lifeguards.
There
was
four
lifeguards
down
there
on
Thursday,
so
I
don't
know
what
the
numbers
should
be,
but
many
people
just
can't
make
it
to
that
pool.
We've
been
I've
been
going
to
Vista
Hermosa
for
at
least
two
years,
and
now
they
say,
oh,
you
have
to
go
to
Ole
Hansen
last
night.
At
eight
we
get
a
call,
you
can
go
to
Vista
Hermosa
Thursday.
We
don't
know
we
used
to
be
Monday
Wednesday
Friday.
J
Now
we're
Tuesday
Thursday
only
combined
with
another
class,
so
I
think
we
had
almost
30
people
in
the
pool
today
at
Mr
Hermosa,
so
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out.
What's
the
real
answer:
where's
where's,
the
Staffing.
Why
are
we
getting
moved
because
the
handicapper
really
doesn't
fare
well
down
at
Ollie
Hanson,
not
to
mention
the
homeless
encampments
that
are
there?
J
We
can't
I
had
to
clear
the
sidewalk
just
to
get
to
the
front,
so
it's
very
it's
very
tough
for
most
of
us,
so
I'm
not
sure
why
that's
happening
so
I'm
not
sure
what
to
expect
as
far
as
an
answer
or
or
if
you
can
share
anything
with
me
us
on
that.
But
there's
a
lot
in
my
class
that
I'm
trying
to
represent
thank.
K
J
C
L
L
L
L
G
Don
Glasgow
I've
been
a
part
of
Courtney
Sandcastle
for
many
many
years
and
I
did
know
everything
that
Mina
just
articulated
and
yes,
you're
invited.
We
hope
to
see
many
of
you.
Staff
of
the
city
attend
this
this
celebration,
because
this
is
one
incredible
special,
lady
and
I-
think
everybody
knows
that.
Yes,
we
want
your
support
on
the
memorial,
it's
in
great
taste,
it's
quality
and
it's
it's
it's
very
fitting,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
your
endorsement
of
that
when
the
time
comes
in
October.
M
M
You
have
received
documentation
of
the
city's
violation
of
California
civil
code,
3480
California
health
and
safety
code
4600,
and
the
city's
own
Municipal
codes
here
are
some
of
the
city
violations
of
its
Centennial
General
plan,
beaches,
Parks
and
Rec
2.07
States.
They
consider
the
impacts
of
Park
features
on
surrounding
uses.
The
city
did
not
consider
the
impacts
of
pickleball
noise
on
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Our
City
attorney
Scott
Smith
has
known
since
2016
the
pickleball
noise
in
residential
neighborhoods
creates
a
noise
nuisance.
M
Ask
how
much
you
build
the
City
of
Newport
Beach
for
his
services
that
resulted
in
permanent
closure
of
pickleball
courts.
Why
did
he
not
inform
the
city
of
its
violation
of
California
and
city
laws?
The
safety
element
policy,
s-4.01,
noise
control
it
required
to
effectively
control
ambient
and
stationary
noise
conditions
by
maintaining
Baseline
information
monitoring
conditions
following
State
guides
and
enforcing
locally
adopted
ordinances.
This
city
has
failed
to
meet
these
requirements.
The
goal
is
to
minimize
exposure
to
XF
noises
levels
on
humans.
M
It
concludes
that
excessive
noise
can
adversely
affect
human
health
and
well-being
and
adversely
affect
property
values.
You
have
the
decibel
ratings
of
pickleball
noise
at
San,
Luis,
Rey
and
San
Gorgonio.
You
know
that
both
exceed
the
city,
maximum
acceptable
levels,
and
yet
the
city
continues
to
violate
state
and
city
laws.
You
have
also
received
the
study
of
noise
sources
and
their
effects
on
humans.
70
decibels
is
like
the
noise
of
a
vacuum.
Cleaner
110
decibels
is
16
times
louder
and
the
average
human
pain
threshold
slide
2.
Please
violation
of
the
city's
mission
statement.
M
The
city
will
Foster
a
tradition
dedicated
to
maintaining
a
safe,
healthy
atmosphere
in
which
to
live,
work
and
play.
The
city
is
creating
unsafe
traffic,
creating
unsafe
conditions
for
pedestrians
negatively
affecting
residents
right
to
the
peaceful
enjoyment
of
their
homes
and
loss
of
property
values.
M
The
city
is
responsible
to
provide
safe
traffic
on
Via,
San,
Gorgonio
and
surrounding
streets,
safe
conditions
for
families
to
enter
and
exit
San
Gorgonio
Park
comply
with
the
city's
noise
ordinance
for
residents
near
sancogoni
Park
and
regain
the
peaceful
enjoyment
of
their
homes
comply
with
city
ordinances
residents
near
South,
San
clegoni
car
can
retain
the
value
of
their
homes.
This
can
be
remedied
tonight
at
no
cost
of
the
city,
closed
pickleball
courts
in
residential
areas
and
require
the
city
scheduled
activities
of
an
El
not
cause
overflowed
traffic
under
residential
streets
that
have
no
safe
sidewalks.
N
So
good
evening,
Council
I
think
that
we're
all
enjoying
the
new
digs
here
and
I
have
this
to
say
that
there
seems
to
be
a
common
theme
in
this
city,
where
the
city
will
choose
to
litigate
rather
than
mitigate
and
I.
Don't
understand
it.
If
the
city
has
the
ability
to
follow
their
own
laws
and
state
code,
why
don't
they
do
it?
N
There
seems
to
be
an
ongoing
theme
where
vbk
is
placing
city
managers
across
various
cities
in
southern
California.
We
need
to
break
away
from
BBK
and
the
time
that
we've
employed
BBK,
our
cost
of
Legal
Services,
have
went
up
an
incredible
amount
and
we
lose.
We
need
to
hire
an
in-house
City
attorney
and
then
hire
outside
firms
on
a
Case
by
case
basis
on
their
area
of
expertise
and
I've.
Got
this
to
say,
too,
is
that
there
has
been
a
settlement
agreement
with
the
city
and
housing
as
a
human
right.
N
O
Oh
nice,
crib,
pretty
sweet
I
just
want
to
talk
tonight
about
the
friends
of
San
Clemente,
which
is
the
best
kept
secret
in
town,
we're
a
non-profit
that
have
served
the
city
for
over
20
years
and
basically
what
we,
what
we
do.
What
we
present
to
the
city
is
we've
given
them:
thirty
thousand
dollars
so
far
to
Parks
and
Recreation
for
Samantha
Wiley
to
offer
scholarships
to
families
that
might
not
be
able
to
afford
our
City
Recreation
programs
or
families.
That
could
only
afford
for
one
kid,
and
maybe
we
add
to
the
second
kid.
O
We
also
provide
the
Snow
Hill
at
the
glitz
down
the
end
of
the
hill
and
I
know:
Gene
James's,
grandkids
love
that
that
Snow
Hill
down
there.
We
also
do
the
Halloween
hot
handout
popcorn
and
treats
we
do
the
spring
tacular
and
handout
treats,
and
this
year
we've
added
the
Monster
Dash
to
our
our
agenda
and
that's
going
to
be
on
October
29th.
First
annual
Monster,
Dash
5K
7
A.M
to
11
A.M,
go
to
the
Civic
Center
down
there
and
sign
up
for
that.
O
It's
going
to
be
a
great
event
and
basically
we
only
have
two
fundraisers
and
those
fundraisers
are
the
golf
tournament
that
happens
in
in
June,
which
was
highly
successful
this
year,
and
we
also
have
the
carnival
the
four-day
Carnival
that
we
you
have
up
in
the
sports
park.
That's
our
primary
fundraiser!
This
year,
it's
October,
13th,
14th,
15th
and
16th.
It's
going
to
be
a
big
ferris
wheel.
You
can
throw
stuff
and
knock
stuff
down
and
get
prizes.
O
It's
it's
really
just
the
typical
wonderful,
mirth
and
merriment,
and
you
can
get
60
or
40
off
tickets.
If
you
buy
them
ahead
of
time-
and
this
is
a
great
deal,
those
books
are
almost
sold
out.
So
Brad
I
want
you
to
get
down
there
right
away
and
buy
those
tickets.
You
can
get
them
at
the
the
Vista
Hermosa
pool.
You
can
get
them
at
the
Civic
Center
or
the
Oli
Hanson
pool
again
they're
going
fast,
so
please
buy
those
tickets.
O
I
want
to
add
one
last
thing:
that's
not
Carnival
related
is
since
I
didn't
see
homelessness
on
the
agenda
just
want
to
shout
out,
you
might
not
know
Carly
Hunter.
Last
month
set
a
record
by
putting
11
people
in
shelters,
he
sells
for
11,
homeless
yeah,
that's
that's
worth
a
clap
for
sure
and
she's.
Just
really
working
hard
and
I
know
we
have
a
new
person,
that's
coming
on
board,
soon,
they're
being
vetted
it
or
whatever.
They
do
and
Carly
says
that
this
guy
wants
to
hit
the
ground
running.
O
He
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
homeless,
community
and
she's,
really
excited
and
I.
Think
we
should
really
be
excited
to.
You
know
basically
have
two
Carly
hunters
in
in
town
working
on
our
our
problems,
so
great
job,
great
hire
on
Carly
and
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
a
great
hire
on
her
her
her
partner.
She
said
matter
of
fact:
she's.
This
guy
is
so
good
that
she's
concerned
that
he's
going
to
look
better
than
her
and
I
I.
O
O
B
Good
evening,
how
are
you
doing
tonight,
I'm
here,
to
talk
about
pickleball
I
came
here
before
you
probably
a
few
months
ago
talked
about
my
health
talked
about
how
pickleball
has
been
affecting
me
and
my
family
and
not
having
any
peace
of
mind.
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
was
a
nurse
at
one
time
and
I'm
a
real
estate
agent.
It
is
affecting
sales
of
properties,
it
is
affecting
my
livelihood.
It
is
affecting
my
way
of
life.
It
is
affecting
my
health.
B
I,
don't
see
how
it's
right
for
you
to
make
decisions
for
us
who
bought
our
houses
to
be
able
to
enjoy
our
quality
of
life
and
what
it's
doing
to
us
personally
What
affected
me.
The
most
was
a
title
agent
asked
me:
do
you
live
across
the
street
from
that
Park
that
overlooks
the
ocean,
the
one
that
everybody
goes
and
plays
pickleball
at
I?
Just
want
you
to
know
people
from
Irvine
and
all
over
the
place
know
about
this
park
and
they
go
there
to
play
Pickleball.
B
Do
you
realize
that
this
was
a
tennis
court
of
two
when
I
moved
into
the
neighborhood
in
2014,
and
now
I
can
see
50
people
at
a
time
that
I
have
on
video?
That
I
can
send
you.
If
you
give
me
your
emails,
that
you
can
see
for
yourself
of
people
yelling
and
screaming
and
hooting
and
hollering
and
the
balls
bouncing
all
the
time
seven
days
a
week,
is
what
I
hear
from
the
time
I
wake
up
to
the
time.
I
go
to.
B
B
That
is
what
I
have
to
say
to
you.
As
a
council
I
want
you
to
take
into
consideration.
You
do
not
live
in
my
neighborhood.
You
do
not
live
with
what
we
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis,
I
work
from
home,
and
so
does
my
husband.
He
works
from
home
as
well.
You
are
destroying
our
quality
of
life
and
the
value
of
my
home
and
as
a
real
estate
agent.
B
P
We
have,
however,
experienced
a
ban
on
e-bikes
on
the
beach
Trail
Shoreline
and
Shoreline,
with
no
consideration
on
how
e-bikes,
Walkers
and
Runners
could
co-exist.
Seemingly,
this
band
was
adopted
with
no
Outreach
to
the
ebike
community.
We
are
taking
the
initiative
to
represent
e-bikers
in
the
effort
to
speak
up
for
equal
access
to
our
streets
and
trails.
P
P
P
P
E
F
Okay,
that's
all
for
oral
Communications.
All
items
listed
on
the
consent
calendar
are
considered
to
be
routine
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion
without
discussion
unless
Council
staff
or
the
public
request
removal
of
an
item
for
separate
discussion
and
action.
The
public
has
requested
the
removal
of
items
for
a
one
and
four
C.
M
Be
quick
and
I
may
be
at
the
wrong
area
of
the
meeting.
My
concern
is
I.
Couldn't
find
anything
in
the
minutes
that
reveal
at
the
last
council
meeting.
Would
that
be
the
minutes
that
we're
talking
tonight
I'm
trying
to
find
where
Scott
Smith
after
three
or
four
week
delay?
Finally
advise
the
council
that
it
is
required
by
law
to
comply
with
its
own
ordinances?
I,
don't
see
that
in
the
minutes.
Thank
you.
K
Mayor
I
wanted
to
pull
this
item
also
on
page
three
of
the
minutes
under
the
safe
parking
program
at
the
very
beginning
it
has
that
I
seconded
the
motion
and
I
did
not
second
that
motion
I,
don't
think
there
was
a
second,
so
councilmember
Duncan
pulled
that
motion.
He
withdrew
it
I
remember
a
discussion
on.
We
wanted
it
to
go
through.
Okay,.
K
K
No
I
said
that
I
wanted
it
on
their
own
for
them
to
take
something
up
but
not
to
be
directed
from
us
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
said
and
we
can
have
stuff
look
at
it,
but
I
just
don't
remember
a
second
that
I
actually
did
that
so
I
think
it
was
probably
confusing
because
I
someone
looked
at
me
and
I
said
nond
for
them.
E
E
E
Okay,
nine
of
15..
Okay,
let's
see,
there's
there's
the
motion.
There
you
go.
It's
accounted
for
on
on
yeah,
page
nine
motion
by
council
member
Ward
to
table
discussion
of
pickleball
till
three
council
members
want
to
agenda
as
motion
died
for
lack
of
second
motion
by
council
member
no
block.
Second
by
mayor
James
Kerry
did
Jen
dies
for
closed
session
at
the
September
20
council
meeting.
That's
today,
discussion
of
pickleball
noise
study
ordinance
and
claim
all
right
thanks
thanks,
Miss
Campanella.
E
K
K
K
It
says
that
discussion
followed
and
was
determined
that
the
chair
will
address
the
mayor
for
more
Direction.
That
is,
the
mayor
doesn't
give
direction
unilaterally
to
that
and
I
think
it
would.
It
probably
says
that,
because
you
were
at
the
meeting-
and
they
were
just
talking
but
I-
think
it
shouldn't
be
in
the
minutes-
that
of
that,
and
then
it
also
says
it
again.
On
page
three,
it
says:
Cherry
Dunn
will
review
any
items
being
added
to
the
new
2020
to
23
work
player
with
mayor
Jean
James.
K
K
H
Anyway.
There
appears
to
be
no
written
approval
of
somebody
else
sitting
in
for
probably
close
to
three
months.
Somebody
else
sat
in
for
Scott
and
it
wasn't
Mel
Richardson
when
I
mentioned
this
Scott
Smith
said
I
will
explain
it
to
Council
in
closed
session.
Well,
that's
again.
Another
Brown
act,
violation
number
one.
There
is
no
exception.
It's
a
contract
issue
that
cannot
be
discussed
in
closed
session
number
one
number:
two:
it
wasn't
agendized,
so
this
is
a
pure
violation
of
law.
This
is
Scott
Smith,
specialty
violating
the
law.
H
Now
what
he
told
you
I,
don't
know,
but
it
wasn't
allowed
to
be
discussed
there
and
I'm
asking
that
the
money
that
was
charged
for
anybody
that
served
in
his
place
be
refunded
to
the
city,
because
it
was
a
contract
violation.
The
reason
you
signed
that
contract
the
way
it
was
and
Scott
was
well
aware
of
that
when
he
got
the
job
was
because
you
were
hiring
an
experienced
lawyer,
who's
supposed
to
be
really
good.
H
H
So
what
happened?
He
needs
to
explain
to
the
public
why
he
violated
the
contract
or,
if
he
didn't
explain
that,
but
it
cannot
be
done
in
closed
session.
It
speaks
to
be
a
regular
Problem
by
Mr
Smith
returning
to
closed
session.
When
they're
not
allowed
to
do
it
and
he
doesn't
provide
code
sections,
he
doesn't
provide
case
law.
He
doesn't
provide
any
explanation.
So
I
ask
him
to
explain
this
tonight
and,
if
I'm
wrong,
then
I'm
wrong,
but
a
simple
explanation
can
explain
this
to
us.
So
again
it
was
not
agendized.
H
D
D
D
D
I
I
In
response
to
the
question
yes,
I,
I
was
gone.
This
summer
the
council
changed
altered.
Its
meeting
scheduled
for
the
summer
I
did
communicate
with
the
council.
That
I
would
be
gone
and
it
would
be
covering
I
urge
you
to
express
any
concern.
You
had
and
I
didn't
hear
any
so
I
just
want
to
get
out
on
the
record.
A
C
J
It
does,
and
it
may
well
have
been
an
issue
I
think
staff
with
good
intentions
may
have
intended
to
make
a
presentation
or
a
question
that
it
could
be
argued,
has
been
asked
and
answered,
but
we
were
sensitive
to
the
concerns
of
the
externalities
associated
with
activity
increased
activity
at
San
gregornio
park.
It
was
proposed
that
Public
Safety
Committee
look
at
those
issues
and
report
back.
K
So
mayor
I
would
this
being
the
Public
Safety
Committee
that
we
have
a
new
traffic
engineer
and
that
it
should
be
our
staff
and
Public
Works
that
should
be
looking
at
streets
and
for
for
this
for
safety
issue,
then
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
So
this
is
just
something
that
can
we
can
ask
staff
to
look
at
and
report
back,
I.
M
We
do
have
Rick
Loeffler
here,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
who
submitted
the
agendas
of
this
item
and
mayor
James
was
present
when
this
item
was
discussed.
So
my
sincere
thanks
to
the
Safety
Committee
members
for
listening
to
my
concerns
and
agendaizing
the
item
tonight,
it's
been
a
while,
since
the
city
council
previously
agendized
the
same
safety
issues
first
photo
since
then
the
city
painted
the
egress
curb
red,
with
the
intent
of
having
enough
room
for
cars
to
safely
pass
each
other
while
coming
and
going
it
was
greatly
improved.
M
But
the
problem
is:
is
that
the
unsafe
conditions
so
overextend
the
park
on
weekends
that
folks
are
desperate
to
find
a
place
to
park,
so
the
red
curbs
get
violated
second
photo.
This
is
how
the
city
denied
requests
to
apply
red
paint
in
front
of
the
fire
hydrants
on
Via
San
Gorgonio
again,
because
this
park
is
overextended
on
weekends.
Folks
are
desperate
for
parking
spaces
and
choose
to
block
the
fire.
Hydrants
third
photo.
Since
then.
The
city
painted
two
four
inch
white
lines
on
Via,
San,
Gorgonio
I,
have
to
admit.
M
I
still
don't
know
how
this
prevents
families
from
walking
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
The
street
has
no
usable
sidewalks.
The
city
would
stop
overextending
the
park
usage
on
weekends
families
wouldn't
have
to
walk
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
Fourth
photo
again
because
the
park
is
overextended
on
weekends.
Folks
are
desperate
for
parking
spaces
and
they
choose
to
block
the
fire
hydrants
or
maybe
they
can't
see
them.
The
city
has
applied
red
paint
to
about
20
feet
of
each
crib
at
the
entrance.
M
The
intent
was
to
provide
some
visibility
of
approaching
Vehicles,
as
there
are
blind
Curves
in
each
direction,
as
discussed
with
the
Safety
Committee.
This
needs
to
be
lengthened
to
be
effective.
The
city
has
no
Solutions
on
how
to
reduce
continuing
running
of
the
stop
sign.
I
appreciate
the
city's
efforts,
the
traffic
that
Miss
Ward
mentioned,
engineer
whatever,
but
they
didn't
improve
the
unsafe
conditions.
Hopefully,
Council
will
agendize
this
and
allow
the
Safety
Committee
to
join
in
and
investigate
the
matter
further.
M
K
H
H
Q
Year
I
think
we
we
do
have
the
Public
Safety
Committee
engaged
in
a
lot
of
different
projects.
This
does
seem
to
be
something
that
our
traffic
engineering
folks
have
a
closer
expertise
to.
So
let's
give
them
the
shot
to
remedy
this
I
agree.
If
the
problem
hasn't
been
solved
with
the
measures
we've
taken,
then
let's
look
at
other
measures
and
hopefully
they
will.
L
K
J
Mr
Mayor,
as
consistent
with
what
you
had
mentioned,
it
has
been
brought
to
our
attention
that
there
is
there's
some
scheduling,
conflicts
and
also
some
frankly,
some
understaffing
that
could
better
accommodate
water,
aerobics
and
twins.
Twins
twins
in
the
hinges
new
term
for
me,
and
also
some
swim.
J
Very
good.
Thank
you.
I
have
also
some
city
manager
approved
contracts.
These
are
contracts
that
were
executed
by
my
predecessor.
I
will
attempt
to
list
them
and
explain
as
best
I
can
my
understanding
of
those
contracts
underground
Solutions,
Inc,
Caya,
real
Pump,
Station
pot,
holding
15
185
dollars,
amerinational
cdbg,
home
Rehabilitation,
Loan
program,
Services,
twelve
thousand
dollars,
engineering,
Solutions,
Services,
on-call
grant,
funding
assistance.
Forty
eight
thousand
dollars
staff
requested
a
three-statement
of
qualifications
for
this
contract
engineering.
J
I
Thanks
mayor
council,
I
did
want
to
report
that
at
the
last
city
council
meeting,
the
council
discussed
in
closed
session
real
estate
located
at
the
corner
of
La
Pata
and
Avenida
Vista
Hermosa.
The
council
voted
unanimously
to
have
brought
back
for
its
consideration
this
evening,
the
exclusive
negotiating
agreement
that
appears
later
on
your
agenda,
so
we
needed
to-
and
it
was
a
unanimous
vote
action
that
was
taken.
I
I
I,
don't
usually
do
this,
but
if
I
could
take
the
liberty
of
correcting
a
couple
of
misrepresentations
made
a
little
bit
earlier
about
me
and
my
firm,
the
the
City
attorney
of
Newport
Beach
is
an
in-house
employee
of
the
city
council.
My
firm
doesn't
represent
them
when
they
face
the
litigation
relating
to
pickleball.
There
was
a
solicitation
for
litigation
firms
that
might
defend
the
city.
My
partners
were
successful
in
that
solicitation
and
worked
as
special
counsel
to
the
city.
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
case.
I
I
still
don't
know
what
it
was
about,
but
I
didn't
want
that
to
sit
on
the
record
of
without
a
response
that
our
legal
fees
have
gone
up
since
I've.
Been
here
is
is
not
true
either
the
city
council,
when
I
first
started,
was
concerned
about
38
Sober
Living
homes
in
the
town
that
we
gave
them
a
budget
for,
and
the
council
voted
to
close,
which
we
did.
They
didn't
want
a
freeway
going
through
the
middle
of
the
city.
My
partners
actually
absorbed
that
expense
of
forty
thousand
dollars
each.
I
They
didn't
want
Market
forces
to
determine
the
disposition
of
the
hospital
site
and
they
were
concerned
about
vacation
rentals
and
having
some
semblance
of
vocal
regulation
over
those.
Those
in
the
early
stages
of
my
representation
were
expensive
lawsuits.
Since
then,
with
your
help
of
this
Council,
we've
cut
that
Peak
budget
by
by
half
and.
I
In
a
budget
report
that
I've
given
to
the
council,
the
last
two
years
again
based
on
budget
parameters
at
the
city
council
approved
annually,
and
it's
in
its
Budget
Building
but
and
I
just
don't
like
to
hear
those
misrepresentations
made
when
I
can
provide
facts
to
to
counter
them.
So
thanks
for
that
opportunity.
Q
H
K
K
K
D
Mr
Mayor
I'd
like
to
discuss
if
we
could
perhaps
agenda
as
a
discussion
regarding
moving
forward
with
a
permanent
city
manager.
I
know
we've
sort
of
had
General
discussions
about
with
the
election
coming
up,
having
those
decisions
being
made
by
the
new
Council.
But
my
concern
is
that
we
not
wait
until
November
to
begin
the
process.
D
I
understand
that
we
have
a
consultant,
that's
been
hired,
Bob
Hall
who's,
looking
at
I
guess
was
instrumental
in
bringing
Sean
Joyce
on
board
and
I
assume
I,
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
assume
that
he's
also
in
the
process
of
recruiting
for
a
permanent
city
manager.
So
I
guess
I'd
like
to
maybe
have
a
session
just
to
discuss
the
process
of
how
we
move
forward
and
I.
D
I
asked
that
to
be
discussed
because
I'm
not
sure
if
the
last
process,
where
we
appointed
a
subcommittee
for
a
temporary
city
manager,
if
it's
in
the
minds
of
all
of
my
colleagues,
that
that's
the
same
process
that
will
continue
for
the
permanent.
So
maybe
I'd
like
to
at
least
know
that
begin
discussing
that
process
and
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
agendize
it
or
I.
D
K
I
Well,
if
I
could
mayor
in
Council
I'd
recommend
that
you
consider
first
discussing
on
a
closed
session,
because
I
think
part
of
the
process
is
is
discussing
the
adequacy
of
the
incumbent
interim
and
I.
Don't
know
how
you'll
do
that
in
Open
Session,
you
shouldn't
so
I
I'd.
First
talk
about
it
in
closed
session
once
once,
you've
dealt.
I
D
E
E
I
just
want
to
recommend
that
when
agendizing,
for
we
want
to
gendized
for
October
4
a
discussion
on
the
publishing
of
our
closed
session
items,
there's
been
numerous
times
since
I've
been
on
Council
that
closed
session
items,
threats
of
litigation,
pending
litigation
and
the
names
of
the
parties
aren't
there.
We
all
know
who
the
parties
are
but
they're
not
there.
So
the
public
doesn't
have
any
transparency
there
right
advance
notice
to
know
that
they
want
to
go
to
that
meeting.
E
They
leave
their
home
and
come
to
that
meeting
and
speak
on
that
item,
because
it's
simply
not
there.
It's
not
on
the
agenda.
So
you
know
our
website
says
we're
transparent,
but
we're
not
and
I
did
email.
The
interim
city
manager.
We
went
back
and
forth
with
the
I
did
with
the
attorney
and
the
city
manager
regarding
tonight's
closed
session
items
and
was
told
there
would
be
a
document
available
for
inspection
from
the
public
and
the
items
for
closed
session
announced.
E
But
if
we're
going
to
verbally
announce,
we
might
as
well
put
those
on
the
published
agenda.
So
people
know
before
the
meeting
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
them
and
they
can
come
and
speak
to
them
right.
So
the
law
fine
might
be
just
the
floor
right,
that's
what
we
the
minimum
we
have
to
do,
but
let's
it's
not
the
ceiling.
Let's
do
beyond
that.
Let's
be
even
more
transparent
for
the
to
accommodate
our
public.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that.
As
an
item
for
discussion
at
the
next
council
meeting,
do
I
have
support.
D
Q
Well,
first
I'd
like
to
thank
our
staff
and
really
all
of
the
city
employees
for
pulling
together
getting
us
in
this
new
council
chambers
so
quickly,
I
think
that
was
fantastic
work,
a
lot
of
work
behind
the
scenes
to
pull
this
together,
so
we
could
get
in
here
today
and
it's
a
fantastic
facility.
So
thank
you
to
our
our
first
class
staff
for
pulling
that
together.
Hopefully
there's
no
one
sitting
in
the
community
center
right
now
staring
at
the
wall.
Q
Q
If
we
can
protect
our
Coast,
they
will
keep
it
there,
but
the
great
news
was:
we
had
a
San
Clemente
resident
Felipe
Toledo,
who
was
who
won
the
men's
division
he's
in
Talega
with
me,
a
neighbor
of
mine,
so
I
look
forward
to
recognizing
him
for
that
when
he
gets
back
in
the
country
from
Brazil,
where
he's
been
celebrating,
so
that
was
really
good
for
the
city
as
well.
So
all
good
news
on
my
end.
D
Mr
Mayor,
if
I,
could
back
up
and
sort
of
queue
off
of
Chris's
comment
about
the
need
to
play
up
incredible
events
like
that
we
have
a
Transit
occupancy
tax
that
is
about
10
percent
and
isn't
I,
understand,
focused
on
a
particular
function
or
need,
and
I
I
think
the
identifying
the
tot
tax
specifically
for
PR
activities
for
special
events
that
San
Clemente
is
doing
to
boost
our
town
in
the
larger
Regional.
Community
would
be
so
I.
D
Don't
know
how
we
do
that
as
a
policy
other
than
perhaps
we
agendized
that
to
discuss
that,
whether
or
not
we
want
to
focus
on
that
particular
tax
and
using
it.
Since,
since
the
taxes
on
people
from
out
of
town,
we
had
to
perhaps
use
some
of
that
money
to
attract
out
of
town
people
to
come
here
and
spend
their
money.
So
just
a
thought
for
discussion.
K
I
think
that's
a
great
discussion
for
the
ltfp
when
you
get
to
around
a
budgeting.
That's
a
budget
item
we've
already
budgeted
for
this
next
year.
We
started
it
July
1st
and
that
that's
when
you
talk
about
those
policies
and
you
think
of,
and
you
do
it
so
that
you
can
talk
about
it
in
conjunction
with
the
rest
of
the
budget,
so
that
you're
not
doing
it
in
a
vacuum
without
considering
everything,
wait.
D
Go
ahead,
I'm
just
going
to
say
rather
than
putting
it
off
for
a
year.
The
long-term
plan
is
is
an
appropriate
time,
but
that
doesn't
preclude
discussing
policy
issues
that
that
that
come
up
because
I
don't
know
how
much
right
offhand,
how
much
the
tot
tax
is
generating.
What
a
good
advertising
campaign
to
boost
our
city
would
cost
and
I
also
don't
know
if,
if
you
doing
that,
now
would
negatively
impact
our
budget
for
this
following
year.
So
I.
C
C
I
Q
J
Show
it
to
conditional
use
permit
16-349.
The
event
is
described,
as
quote
this
event
will
most
likely
occur
in
the
spring
or
summer
season
for
approximately
four
hours,
midday
Etc.
So
it's
it's
seasonal
and
we've
made
the
holder
of
that
cup,
aware
that
that
we
are
enforcing
that
we've
given
them
several
weeks,
so
that
we
don't
catch
them
by
surprise.
That's
not
our
interest
they're
aware
of
it.
J
They
have
expressed
an
interest
in
exploring
how
they
might
modify
that
cup
reviewed
by
staff
subject
to
the
approval
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
that
is
that
is
what
they're
doing
and
we're
helping
them.
The
applicant
process
that
so
that
a
public
decision
can
be
made
by
the
Planning
Commission.
Q
J
C
D
C
C
There
I
think
there's
a
couple:
I
I
don't
want
to
get
any
discussion,
but
I
think
there's
a
couple
options
here
and
then
the
last
thing
I
have
is
I'd
like
to
Council
support
on
this.
Other
cities
have
have
ordinances
in
regards
to
Street
sites
listing
the
Gypsy
type
of
listing,
and
this
is
getting
more
and
more
problematic
and
I
really
think.
We
need
to
look
at
a
an
ordinance
on
that
and
start
nipping
that
in
the
bud.
What.
D
C
Q
Ferguson,
thank
you.
Is
this
something
you
want
the
Public's
not
to
load
up
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
but
Public
Safety
Committee
to
look
at
first,
given
that
they've
got
law
enforcement
officers
who
are
used
to
enforcing
those
kind
of
laws
that
that
might
ease
the
burden
on
on
staff
a
little
bit
too.
Okay,.
F
I
I
Litigation
against
the
agency
exists,
in
fact,
and
circumstances
include
that
are
not
limited
to
an
accident
disaster
incident
or
transactional
currents
that
might
result
in
litigation
against
agency
and
that
are
known
to
a
potential
planet
for
plaintiffs,
which
must
be
stated
on
the
agenda
or
announced
there's
a
threat
of
litigation
from
a
member
of
the
public
dated
September
13
2022
relating
to
pickleball
at
San,
Gorgonio
Park.
The
presentation
that
we
have
in
mind
will
be
within
the
parameters
of
that
communication,
and
so
we're
disclosing
that
now.
I
The
other
item
relates
to
the
pending
adoption
of
the
updated
housing
element.
Your
new
housing
element
contains
Provisions
that
are
identical
to
some
that
were
challenged
in
the
litigation
previously
and
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
potential
for,
as
you
face
with
what's
before
you
today,
and
that
potential
lawsuit.
So
that's
our
disclosure
in
our
report,
the
rest
of
it
I.
I
H
The
item-
the
pickleball
item-
was
agendized
by
this
Council,
yet
not
put
on
the
on
the
agenda,
unbelievable
that
you
would
hide
it
from
the
public
after
the
council
agendized.
It
shame
on
shame
on
the
City
attorney
and
you
know
it's.
It
is
a
floor
and
ceiling
item.
How
can
people
are
they
supposed
to
drive
down
right
now
and
come
and
talk
to
you?
H
This
is
this
is
no
transparency
at
all
and
shame
on
the
city
and
the
City
attorney
City
admitted
that
the
pickleball
court
at
San,
Luis
Ray,
created
a
noise
nuisance.
Then
it
doubled
down
at
sangregornio.
Park
measurements
of
San
G
by
the
city
were
the
111
decibel
and
Ms
Martin
explained
that
to
you
earlier
city
has
a
duty
to
shut
down
the
park
duty
to
shut
down
the
park.
Pickleball
use
it's
it's.
H
H
The
Alternatives,
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
Staples
Staples?
You
could
release
that
the
community
center
it
could
be
moved
inside.
The
city's
had
since
2017,
maybe
18,
knowing
that
they
were
putting
pickleball
in
communities
to
move
to
the
Steed
Park
they've
had
four
years
to
avoid
this
nuisance,
and
what
has
the
city
done?
That's
right.
The
answer
is
nothing.
Okay,
the
so
they've
opened
himself
up
to
a
lawsuit
damages
legal
time.
Why?
H
For
no
apparent
reason,
except
that
it
sounds
like
a
good
idea
to
harm
this
one
neighborhood
double
their
courts
and
take
it
out
of
another
neighborhood
where,
where
is
the
brain
power?
I
know
it's
there?
You
guys
can
figure
this
out
tonight
in
closed
session,
shut
down
the
parks
tonight,
you're
not
going
to
get
a
lawsuit
if
I
doubt
from
anybody.
They'll
just
live
with
us
in
the
past
move.
It
I
also
should
tell
you
that
when
this
park
was
built,
everybody
knows
they
should
go.
H
Read
the
documents
these
these
pickleball
courts
are
not
allowed
under
the
environmental
assessment
that
was
done
at
the
time.
They're
not
allowed
to
be
placed
where
they
are.
Did
anybody
from
the
city
tell
us
that?
Did
you
do
a
sequel
study
before
you
moved
him?
The
answer
is
no
to
all
those
questions:
City
violate
the
law
and-
and
they
know
it,
Scott
Smith
seems
to
have
this
problem
and
and
I
think
you
know
you
need
to
find
a
City
attorney.
That's
in-house
that
will
stand
up
and
do
the
right
thing.
H
I
think
that's
really
important
I
think
it's
important
that
Scott
only
provided
one
document,
an
email
tonight
when
I
asked
him
why
this
claim
against
the
city
that
was
denied,
which
is
the
basis
for
a
lawsuit,
was
not
included.
He
said
you
can't
read
my
mind.
You
can't
tell
me
how
I
know
that
a
litigation
might
come
yes,
I
can
a
claim
is
a
litigation.
Email
is
not
a
threat
of
litigation,
it
may
be
a
little
bit,
but
a
claim
is
a
threat
of
litigation,
yet
it
wasn't
included.
Why
didn't
Scott
include
it?
H
Err
on
the
side
of
of
transparency
of
disclosure,
not
to
hide
the
ball
from
the
public.
Why
is
that
always
what
Scott
does?
Why
does
he
do
the
least
possible
instead
of
doing
the
most
possible
and
protect
the
city
and
by
the
way,
if
a
lawsuit's
filed
the
players
instructors
at
all
are
liable
under
the
state
and
city
law
for
damages
to
the
to
how
to
the
people
don't
allow
that
to
happen.
Vote
tonight
to
close
the
park.
I
M
April
20th
2022
I
filed
a
notice
of
claim
against
the
city
of
San
Clemente
for
damages,
resulting
from
the
city's
ongoing
disturbance
caused
by
the
city's
failure
to
comply
with
its
noise
laws
on
May
26
2022
I
received
notice
that
the
city
denied
my
claim.
The
city
informed
me
that
I
have
only
six
months
to
file
a
court
action.
M
E
E
E
G
E
C
J
C
J
Q
C
E
E
R
C
C
C
C
C
Welcome
to
part
two
of
our
regular
meeting
of
September,
the
20th
2022
Welcome
to
our
new
digs,
pretty
impressive
I
think
something
I'd
like
to
say
real,
quick
about
about
about
these
council
chambers,
both
the
police
services
station
and
this
Council
chamber
was
done
without
an
impact
on
our
general
budget.
It
was
impact
fees
that
the
city
had
had
for
decades,
and
so
we
were
able
to
do
both
a
a
police
service
station
and
this,
this
wonderful
Chambers
here
without
an
impact
Still
Still
taxpayer
money.
But
nonetheless
we
didn't
impact
our
budget.
C
Okay,
so
I've
never
read
from
here
before
San
Clemente,
whereas
hunger,
poverty
and
food
and
nutritional
insecurity
are
issues
of
vital
concern
in
California,
where
20
percent
of
Californians
face
food
insecurity
on
a
daily
basis
and
one
in
every
six.
Children
do
not
know
where
the
next
meal
will
come
from
and
whereas
the
city
of
San
Clemente
is
committed
to
taking
steps
to
combat
hunger
in
every
part
of
our
community
and
to
provide
additional
resources
that
those
in
the
city
need
and
whereas
we've
got
a
bunch
of
warehouses.
Here.
C
And
it's
projected
that
hundreds
of
thousand
people
could
face
continued
hunger
and
food
insecurity
in
Orange
County.
In
the
wake
of
the
pandemic,
along
with
increasing
cost
of
living
this
year.
And
whereas
the
above
name,
members
of
the
Orange
County
hunger
lines
have
distributed
more
than
82
million
pounds
of
food
in
the
last
year
through
its
network
of
food,
pantries,
soup,
kitchens,
shelters
and
other
community
organizations.
C
C
By
taking
action,
including
volunteer,
shifts
social
media
shares
and
donations
to
ensure
that
no
one
has
an
impossible
choice
between
food
and
other
necessities
like
medicine
utilities
and
child
care,
and
whereas
food
banks
across
the
country,
including
members
of
the
California
Association
of
food
banks,
will
host
numerous
events
throughout
this
month
of
September
to
bring
awareness
and
help
and
hunger
and
food
insecurity
in
their
local
community.
Now,
therefore,
it
is
resolved
that
I,
Gene
James,
acting
on
behalf
the
city
of
council,
do
hereby
declare
September
20
22
as
hunger
action
month
signed.
C
G
I
will
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Malia
Carey.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
I'm,
the
government
and
public
affairs
coordinator
with
Second
Harvest
Food
Bank
of
Orange
County.
We
partnered,
together
with
OC
Food
Bank
up
in
Garden
Grove
and
abound
food
care.
Another
non-profit.
We
come
together
as
the
OC
hunger
Alliance
September
is
hunger
action
month.
So
we
encourage
the
public
to
join
together
in
Partnership.
There's
many
ways
to
take
action.
G
You
can
visit
our
website
at
feedoc.org,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
right
now,
there's
one
in
11
people
in
Orange
County
facing
food
insecurity,
so
the
pandemic
is
not
over
as
far
as
we're
concerned.
There's
plenty
of
folks.
Still,
you
know
with
the
high
Rising
food
costs,
inflation
there's
still
a
food
crisis
as
far
as
the
food
banks
are
concerned.
So
thank
you
for
your
support.
Thank
you,
the
city
council,
thank
you
to
the
city
of
San,
Clemente
and,
and
we
appreciate
the
supports.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
G
R
The
Outreach
report
that
is
provided
on
the
screen
is
available
under
the
on
the
city's
webpage
under
homeless
resources.
The
month
of
August
is
unique.
It's
identified
with
an
asterisk
that
indicates
that
we
had
some
staff
on
leave
during
the
month
of
August,
so
the
numbers
are
a
little
bit
lower
than
than
other
typical
months.
R
The
number
of
unduplicated
contacts
is
is
lower
this
month
only
because
a
lot
of
those
contacts
and
those
individuals
pass
through
town,
and
so
the
numbers
that
are
reflected
here
are
generally
more
of
the
the
regular
individuals
that
we
have
in
the
city,
the
number
of
responses
to
the
public
calls
and
inquiries.
Those
numbers
are
a
little
bit
lower,
but
I
do
want
to
let
people
know
that
during
the
community
outreach
workers
leave
during
the
month,
their
the
calls
and
inquiries
were
forwarded
to
other
staff.
R
To
respond
to
those
numbers
are
not
reflected
in
their
work
because
they
were
responding,
not
not
so
much
with
Outreach,
but
with
with
just
contact
to
see
if
they
could
address
any
issues
that
they
found.
The
Street
exit
numbers
are
actually
higher
than
normal,
and
this
reflects
an
increase
in
the
shelter
bed
availability.
C
C
R
C
D
D
D
R
C
C
F
S
Evening,
I
don't
have
too
much
to
add
I,
think
the
letter
kind
of
speaks
for
itself
and
I
know
I
spoke
to
you
all
at
the
last
council
meeting.
So
if,
unless
there's
any
questions,
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
tonight.
Other
than
my
sincere
thanks
appreciate
your
guys's
time.
Looking
at
this
and
looking
at
the
letters
and
having
conversations
it's
much
appreciated.
K
C
K
S
S
I
am
aware:
I'm
also
aware
that
council
is
the
body
in
previous
councils
who
approached
Coastal
commission
to
take
action
against
the
heights
of
homes.
So
we
have
changed
our
procedure
based
on
council's
Intervention
in
those
permits.
So
now
I'm
coming
to
you
with
the
revised
height
and
seeking
your
support.
K
So
I
would
have
staff's
Cecilia.
If
you
can
answer
this.
I
don't
remember
intervening
on
on
behalf
of
any
permits,
but
don't
we
have
some
ordinances
on
views
and
with
our
coastal
zone
and
especially
our
C
Summit
Coastal
Trails.
Isn't
there
like
a
protected
view
from
that
trail
with
that's
already?
That's
a
coastal
permit
in
itself
is.
Is
that
those
trail
system
I'll.
N
N
K
N
So
we
do
have
ordinances
in
effect
that
protect
public
views.
The
coastal
commission's
standard
of
review
is
going
to
be
the
coastal
Act
and
the
city's
certified
land
use
plan.
So
I
don't
have
any
additional
information
regarding
the
findings
that
Coastal
staff
would
utilize
to
determine
what
height
is
appropriate.
K
K
Him,
okay,
so
this
letter
has
a
lot
of
different
things
in
it:
I
if
they
feel
like
they
want
a
letter.
I
think
there's,
maybe
a
compromise
here
that
we
could
have
that.
Maybe
we
say
simply
because
I
don't
know
that
we
should
weigh
in
on
any
of
these
details
in
here,
but
that
maybe
that
we
support
we
support
the
coastal
Commission
in
their
administration
of
this
or
we
support
you
know.
Whatever
height
is
available.
K
It
does
anything
to
the
Views
I.
Don't
think
we're
qualified
to
do
that
at
this
point,
because
we
don't
have
anything
except
you
just
said
it
was
priorly
determined
that
16
feet
did
not
block
it,
but
that
I
don't
think.
We
can
say
that
at
this
point,
but
is
there?
Is
there
some
wording
that
we
could
do
where,
as
they
apply
for
a
lot
I,
don't
know
what
they're
called
there
or
a
coach
or
whatever
unit
that
if
it
doesn't
block
the
trail
system,
we're
okay
with
it?
K
If
they
determine
it,
does
not
block
The
View,
so
is.
Is
there
any
wording
of
how
to
do
that?
I'm
asking
you
for
that,
just
because
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
that
if
it's,
if
it
meets
their
criteria
but
they're
asking
us
to
make
in
in
the
sample
letter
it
totally
backs
away
from
a
prior
Council
and
actually
litigation
that
the
council
took
up
and
I.
K
K
E
K
K
We
have
no
documentation
whatsoever
and
that's
what
I'm
telling
you
is
very
difficult
to
do,
but
if
we
want
to
come
up
with
something
have
it
be
where
it
doesn't
it's
consistent
with
protecting
the
views
of
Marblehead
the
trail
system
and
as
long
as
it
doesn't
block
that
we
are
for
any
just
there's
nothing
specific
that
you
know
it's
it's
any
anything
that
goes
before
them.
If
it
doesn't,
if
they
determine
it,
doesn't
block
The
View,
we
don't
have
an
issue
with
that.
K
K
So
support
not
blocking
the
views,
support
whatever
if
they
determine
16
feet,
doesn't
do
that.
We
don't
have
an
issue,
but
all
of
this
where
it
says
it
is
clear.
The
Capstone
resource
Community
is
a
reverse
course
on
design
standards.
I
I,
don't
know
any
of
that.
This
Council
has
none
of
that
before
us.
S
The
the
two
clarifying
points
I
would
go
back
to
is.
There
is
a
permit
that
was
denied
at
unit
space
number
three
from
the
coastal
commission.
It
was
roughly
four
months
ago
and
it's
contrary
to
every
permit.
That's
come
up
to
them
that
they've
approved
they
asked
for
16
feet.
They
denied
that
and
kept
them
at
I
think
that
one
was
12
feet
and
then
to
go
back
to
your
point
about
inconsistent.
K
K
K
S
That's
a
previous
application.
The
letter
that
I'm
asking
for
so
that
decision
is
done,
they're
not
appealing
it
they're,
not
taking
it
to
court.
So
in
order
to
avoid
a
400
000
five-year
litigation
for
this
applicant
to
go
back
to
fight
for
16
feet,
we're
trying
to
get
in
front
of
that
at
the
next
Coastal
commission.
Hearing
by
saying
16
feet
is
reasonable
and
it's
expected
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
from
you
here
tonight.
So.
K
K
Okay,
so
what's
wrong
with
saying
that
we
support
this,
this
prior
findings
of
16
feet
as
long
as
it
doesn't
block
the
public
trail
system
of
Marblehead.
Isn't
that
consistent
with
what
we've
already
been
seeing?
But
this
letter
that
you
were
asked
for
is
like
way
too
many
things
in
it.
That
I
feel
are
part
of.
K
S
D
The
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
coastal
Trail
in
that
area
I've
walked
it
quite
a
few
times
the
views
of
the
mobile
home
park.
The
the
Capistrano
choice
is:
does
not
block
The
View
I've,
looked
at
the
Little
Homes,
the
larger
ones,
the
two-story,
the
the
story
and
a
half
there's
no
view
blockage
I'm
not
concerned
at
all
about
view.
Blockage
I
think
the
request
is
consistent
with
prior
Council
actions.
Q
S
S
The
problem
with
views
in
the
coastal
commission
as
I'm
sure
you
have
been
aware
of
in
own
developments-
it
is
completely
speculative.
You
can
I've
done
the
math
on
The
View
we've
done
calculations,
it
is
less
than
one
half
of
one
percent
is
what
we're
talking
about
on
a
panoramic
180
degree
Ocean
View.
So
it's
so
speculative
that
if
you
leave
any
room
open
for
that,
they're
gonna
just
dismiss
it
completely.
So
we're
trying
to
find
a
boundary
that
we
can
work
in
a
Mrs,
Ward
I
would
just
ask
why?
Wouldn't
you
want
the
citizens.
Q
Think
that
councilman,
your
points
are
well
taken.
However,
the
count
the
coastal
commission
is
going
to
do
whatever
the
coastal
commission
is
going
to
do
right.
They
say
in
here
they
they
are
going
to
go
lower
if
they
think
of
you
as
impacted,
so
we're
just
offering
our
assistance
to
some
some
some
homeowners
here.
They.
K
K
Q
Q
K
C
F
C
C
C
F
Okay,
the
public
hearing
process
includes
a
staff
presentation,
a
presentation
by
the
applicant
not
to
exceed
10
minutes
and
public
testimony
not
to
exceed
three
minutes
per
speaker
following
closure
of
the
public
hearing,
the
city
council
will
respond
to
questions
raised
during
the
hearing,
discuss
the
issues
and
act
upon
the
matter
by
motion.
The
first
public
hearing
is
to
consider
the
proposed
submission
of
the
2021-22
Consolidated
annual
performance
and
evaluation
report.
Caper.
K
K
C
A
Evening,
mayor
and
City,
Council,
Members,
Jennifer,
Savage
assistant
to
the
city
manager
and
the
PowerPoint
this
evening
is
almost
up.
It'll
just
be
a
short
presentation
on
the
revised
housing
element.
Update
next
slide,
please,
as
noted
in
your
staff
report,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
work
since
you've
adopted
the
housing
element
update
in
October
2021,
including
multiple
revisions
and
two
letters
from
hcd
before
you
tonight
is
the
September
22
version
of
the
revised
housing
element
update
next
slide.
Please,
there
are
three
key
revisions
on
in
your
revised
housing
element
this
evening.
A
The
first
one
is
the
sites
inventory.
Those
revisions
include
narrative
and
explanation
about
why
our
proposed
potential
rezoning
sites
are
sufficient
and
satisfy
the
the
need
to
create
housing
opportunities
throughout
the
city.
The
second
key
revisions
are
in
your
housing
action
plan,
and
these
are
where
your
programs
are,
and
it
states
what
we're
going
to
do
when,
over
the
course
of
the
next
eight
years,
the
changes
within
those
programs
are
providing
metrics
and
specificity
to
when
we're
going
to
implement
those
programs
and
what
metric
or
goal
we
have
for
each
of
those
programs.
A
The
third
key
revision
is
to
appendix
C
for
affirmatively,
furthering
fair
housing
or
affh,
and
that
particular
section
in
appendix
C
provides
a
a
robust
revision
for
discussion
on
justification
regarding
that
topic,
providing
additional
data,
including
additional
data
sources
that
have
come
to
fruition
since
the
adoption
in
October
2021
next
slide.
Please
this
evening
we
have
two
recommended
actions.
The
first
one
is
to
adopt
the
revised
housing
element
update,
and
the
second
is
to
authorize
us
to
submit
the
revisions
to
hcd
next
slide.
Please
and
should
Council
choose
to
approve
those
recommendations.
A
Our
next
step
would
be
to
submit
to
hcd
and
await
their
certification.
They
have
60
days
for
that
certification,
but
hcd
staff
is
working
with
jurisdictions
to
get
their
review
faster,
where
they
can
and
then
in
conjunction
with
that
and
afterwards,
Our
Community
Development
Department
is
actively
and
will
be
continually
implementing
the
housing
action
plan.
You've
previously
received
presentations
regarding
zoning
amendments
and
those
are
in
progress
and
then
shortly
thereafter,
you
will
see
a
rezoning
program
which
will
consider
the
potential
rezoning
sites.
This
concludes
staff
presentation
and
we
are
available
for
any
questions.
F
R
Good
evening
city
council,
my
name
is
Mark
enmeyer,
my
lifelong
resident
of
San
Clemente,
a
teacher
at
San,
Clemente,
High,
School
and
I'm
running
for
city
council.
I
wanted
to
come
again
tonight
to
address
the
issue
of
e-bike
safety.
I
first
wanted
to
thank
mayor,
Gene
James
for
agendizing
the
issue
and
to
Mayor
Pro
tem
Chris
Duncan
for
seconding
it.
Looking
over
the
agenda
item.
R
10B
I
would
like
to
take
some
time
to
point
out
areas
that
I
think
the
city
is
doing
well,
but
I
also
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement
before
we
focus
on
our
city,
though
I
want
to
look
South
on
our
neighbor
Carlsbad.
The
report
mentions
that
they
ratified
two
million
dollars
in
emergency
funds
to
address
Traffic
Safety.
It
doesn't
mention,
though,
that
they
did
this,
because
two
bicyclists
died
in
August
and
they
had
233
percent
increase
in
bike
vehicle
collisions.
Since
2019.
R
I
started
to
think
of
what
tragedy
our
city
has
to
go
through
before
we
decide
to
act.
The
report
also
doesn't
mention
that
Carlsbad
received
a
5
million
Grant
in
federal
funding
for
the
construction
of
traffic
circles,
pedestrian
Crossing
street
lights
and
other
safety
improvements
in
carlsbad's
Barrio
neighborhood.
This
goes
beyond
just
e-bike
safety,
but
safer
roads
in
general.
We
should
be
looking
at
how
to
apply
for
our
own
grants
to
create
our
own
roundabouts
at
places
like
Presidio,
on-ramp
and
off-ramp.
Among
other
improvements,
this
is
our
chance
to
bring
some
incredible
quality
of
life.
R
Improvements
to
our
town,
money
is
just
sitting
out
there.
We
should
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
get
a
piece
of
that
pie
back
to
e-bikes.
The
report
mentions
our
regulations
that
are
in
place.
There
are
some
great
ones,
such
as
wearing
helmets
and
not
riding
on
sidewalks.
There
are
two
problems,
though
one
they
aren't
being
enforced.
R
There
are
Myriad
of
reasons
for
this
number
one
being
Manpower
I
think
it
is
also
time
for
the
city
council
to
start
emphasizing
the
need
for
enforcement
on
this
issue
to
our
Sheriff
Department
two,
you
Can't
Blame
a
bicyclist
for
riding
on
a
sidewalk
when
there
aren't
Safe
Streets
for
them.
I
see
bicyclists
riding
on,
for
instance,
Kyle
del
Cerro,
all
the
time
and
I
can't
fault
them
for
it,
because
they're
afraid
that
if
they
go
on
the
street,
they
will
be
clipped
on
the
issue
of
e-bike
safety.
R
Education
as
well
intentioned
as
it
may
be.
The
information
is
not
being
received
by
those
who
need
to
hear
it
most.
When
I
ask
my
students,
if
any
of
them
knew
about
the
PSA,
the
bike,
safety,
Rodeo
or
any
other
programs,
they
looked
at
me
and
bewilderment.
We
need
to
brainstorm
a
better
way
to
make
sure
that
every
young
writer
knows
the
rules
of
the
road.
This
might
mean
some
sort
of
permit
program
working
in
10
with
their
schools
or
something
else
entirely
in
closing.
R
E
I
totally
support
ebike
safety,
I
mean
we've
been
on
Council
together
and
have
implemented
many
initiatives
to
help
with
education,
parents
and
children.
Many
ways
they're
all
listed
here-
bicycle
Rodeo,
prohibition
of
e-bikes
on
the
beach
Trail
enforcement
is
happening
there.
Marketing
and
social
media
Elementary
School
Outreach
partnering
with
assembly
member
Davies
I
think
we
should
continue
doing
those
things.
I
just
I,
don't
support
another
emergency.
Proclamation
I
just
feel
we
can
do
these
things
and
allocate
funds
for
more
officers.
If
that's
what
we
need.
E
We've
already
discussed
that
on
a
for
another
matter
for
safety,
Public
Safety
in
the
community,
so
I'm
for
all
these
things,
it's
a
it's
a
great
initiative
that
Carl's
been
doing
but
I,
don't
believe.
We
need
an
emergency
order
in
making
the
city
manager.
You
know
the
local
emergency
officer
effectuating
that
again
and
just
giving
more
power
and
control
to
you
know
that
unelected
staff
I
think
as
elected
officials,
we're
doing
a
great
job
already
with
ebike
education
regulations
here
in
our
town.
So
that's
all
I.
D
I
I'm
just
curious
if
Captain
Benfield
would
mind,
sharing
his
thoughts
on
the
current
situation,
with
enforcement
of
e-bikes
I'm
concerned
about
the
safety
issue.
Overall,
it's
you
know
these
are.
These
are
vehicles
that
are
that
are
motorized
they're
motorcycles,
there's
electric
rather
electric,
rather
than
gasoline-powered,
Motors
and
I
live
on
a
very
Street
Steep
Street
at
Del,
Sol
I
see
kids,
not
on
the
right
side
of
the
excuse
me
on
the
right
side
of.
H
D
Street
and
they're
going
up
the
Steep
Hill
without
pedaling.
These
vehicles
move
fast
in
our
community
they're
dangerous
we've
had
injuries,
we've
had
fatalities
and
Captain
Benfield.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
just
briefly
telling
us
what
your
department
can
should
be
doing
and
is
doing
perhaps
relating
to
e-bike
safety
and
citations,
I'm
just
curious
I.
T
Those
are
not
lawful
anywhere
in
the
city,
so
those
are
intended
for
off-road
use,
public
land
or
desert,
something
that
effect
they
can't
be
ridden
on
the
streets.
They
can't
be
registered,
there's
no
way
to
make
them
legal
to
operate
on
the
streets.
You
have
to
have
a
not
only
a
driver's
license
because
it's
qualified
it
qualifies
as
an
actual
motor
vehicle.
T
You
have
to
have
a
license
and
an
M1
endorsement
to
ride
those,
and
even
if
you
have
that
the
equipment
itself
cannot
is
not
street
legal,
so
we've
been
enforcing
those
issuing
citations
and
actually
impounding.
Those
bikes
I
understand
that
there's
still
some
of
them
that
are
out
we've
seen
a
significant
reduction
in
those
in
the
city,
but
I
am
being
told
by
residents
of
the
city
and
and
some
of
our
own
people
that
they
are
still
seeing
them.
T
I
know
we
towed
one
yesterday
or
actually
impounded
one
yesterday,
they're
still
out
there,
but
I
think
the
words
getting
out
and
then
e-bikes
as
is
mentioned
tonight.
It's
always
going
to
be
an
issue
in
a
city
where
there's
little
option
for
them
to
ride.
As
was
mentioned
already,
a
lot
of
the
parents
are
not
are
not
okay
with
the
idea
of
the
kids
being
in
this
in
the
street,
and
that's
why
they're
they're
up
on
the
sidewalks,
many
family
members
I,
think
believe.
That's
the
safest
place
for
their
family
to
be.
T
It's
mostly
mostly
like
education,
based,
not
a
lot
of
citations,
being
written,
we're
just
trying
to
create
awareness.
We
have
seen
a
significant
increase
in
the
use
of
helmets
in
the
city.
I
was
just
commenting
with
some
staff
today
that
everywhere
I
go
now
I'm,
seeing
kids
with
helmets
is
particularly
down
by
the
high
school,
which
was
one
of
the
frequent
complaint
areas,
so
they
are
on
the
lookout
for
it.
T
We
are
engaging
the
community
when
we
do
see
violations,
but
but
I
am
interested
in
one
of
the
speakers
just
brought
about
a
program
that
Carlsbad
might
be
running
and
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
them
and
contact
them
and
see
exactly
what
they're
doing.
If
that
maybe
there's
some
something
we
could
adopt
here,
have.
T
No
again,
mostly
mostly
education
and
our
staff
that
works,
the
beach,
our
beach
Patrol
deputies
and
our
SRO
when
he
was
assigned
to
beach
during
the
summer
they've
come
in
and
because
I've
asked
that
direct
question.
Hey.
Are
we
citing
people
and
they're,
telling
me
like
the
people
that
they're
seeing
on
the
beach
Trail
it's
first?
First
of
all,
it's
infrequent
I.
Think
Captain
Milan
made
that
clear
that
he's
seen
a
significant
reduction
there,
but
but
the
ones
that
we
do
see
it's
probably
best
left
to
educate
the
family.
T
These
are
what
we
would
call
just,
not
not
people
doing
anything,
egregious
just
family
members
out
who
might
have
a
juvenile
who's
on
an
e-bike,
and
they
don't
feel
that
it's
necessarily
appropriate
to
cite,
in
that
case
they're
granted
that
Authority
by
the
law
to
decide.
You
know
whether
or
not
to
decide
or
issue
a
warning
and,
and
so
they're,
just
kind
of
using
totality
of
the
circumstances
to
base
their
judgment
on
on,
do
issue
a
citation
or
do
I
just
warn
these
people.
K
So
Council
I
would
say
that
if
you
look
at
the
policies
that
we
already
have,
we
have
a
pretty
robust
policies
in
our
gender
plan.
We
actually
have
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
master
plan,
and
so
there
was
a
comment
that
we
need
to
start
doing
things.
We
have
that
future
city
councils
need
to
support
our
staff
to
implement
those
and
I
think
this
Council
actually
said
when
we
took
the
e-bikes
off
the
trail
that
we
needed
to
start
looking
at
bike
racks.
Those
were
a
comment
made.
K
We
needed
to
dust
off
that
bicycle
pedestrian
master
plan
and
start
implementing
the
the
pathways
that
that
we
said
not
every
street
in
our
city
is
going
to
be
safe
for
people
to
ride
a
bike.
That's
why
we
have
the
Pacific
coast
bike
trail.
That
goes
through
all
the
way
to
Mexico
to
Washington
State.
But
it
goes
through
our
city,
but
it's
you
have
to
be
riding
along
PCH
or
El
Camino
Real
to
the
California
state
park.
K
To
take
that,
so
we
know
we
have
a
problem
Inland
and
that's
where
we
we
really
need
to
do
it.
I
think
I'd,
like
I
know,
the
sheriff
is
doing
what
they
can
and
we've
had
a
reduction.
So
I
I
heard
also
a
comment
that
we
need
to
educate
the
parents.
I
would
say
that
is
not
our
job,
that
is
the
parents
job
if
they're
buying
the
bicycle
for
their
children.
K
That
is
their
job
and,
like
my
dad
taught
me,
the
rules
of
the
road
I
didn't
have
a
city
teach
me
the
rules
of
the
road,
my
parents
did
it
and
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
The
kids
at
the
high
school
are
great
I've
met
them
all
I've
seen
all
those
e-bikes
there
I
almost
think
that
maybe
we
have
a
different
way
of
getting
into
the
school
that
would
take
kids
off
Pico.
You
know
coming
in
the
back
way,
going
in
a
different
gate
and
I'd
like
to
see
staff
like
our.
K
We
have
a
new
traffic
engineer,
reach
out
to
the
schools,
because
I
got
a
complaint
today
about
short
Cliffs
people
on
the
sidewalk.
Maybe
there's
alternative
routes
that
we
can
recommend
the
shortcuts
might
be
a
problem,
but
that
you
know
underage,
but
the
high
school
shouldn't
be
a
problem
and
if
there's
a
back
gate-
and
we
can
take
people
off
of
of
Pico
and
get
them
there,
because
our
kids
are
getting
to
school
on
those
bikes.
But
I
would
encourage.
Let's
send
that
and
give
direction
tonight
to
our
staff
to
look
at
things
like
that.
K
It's
just
something
I
came
up
with
when
I
was
sitting
on
Pico
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
There's
other
ways
that
they
can
do
it.
There's
not
too
many
people
on
the
sidewalk.
It's
pretty
much
the
the
high
school
traffic,
that's
taking
that
sidewalk,
but
other
sidewalks
in
town,
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
think
about
sidewalks
and
a
plan.
I
would
also
submit
that
I
think
our
old
traffic
engineer
that
was
doing
roundabouts
and
doing
great
things
in
our
city
is
now
with
the
city
of
Carlsbad.
K
So
we
have
a
new
traffic
engineer,
but
it's
time
to
dust
off
all
of
our
policies
and
our
plan
and
start
implementing
some
of
them,
but
I
think
we
have
the
tools
we
are.
We
were
far
ahead
with
our
buys
competition
master
plan
than
in
most
cities.
When
we
did
our
general
Plan
update,
there's
already
a
plan
in
place.
C
H
Q
D
Q
Well,
so
we
have,
you
know
illegitimate,
grandkids,
perhaps
as
well.
Sorry,
but
yeah
I
mean
this
is
just
a
reality
right.
You
know
the
kids
are
on
the
e-bikes.
The
the
horse
is
out
of
the
barn
that
that's
not
going
to
be
put
back
in
they're
out
there.
Writing
we
can't
just
we
can't
just
say
to
parents,
it's
on
you,
I
wish
we
could,
but
the
kids
are
out
there.
Writing
these
e-bikes
they're.
Q
That's
how
they're
getting
around
it's
helping
parents
and
I
I
actually
had
a
very
close
friend's
child,
though
I
witnessed
this
child
had
a
terrible
accident
over
the
weekend
coming
out
of
the
Talega
concert
at
a
high
rate
of
speed
going
down
a
hill
and
I
I
thought
this.
This
this
child
could
be
seriously
hurt.
Thankfully
they
had
the
helmet
on
and
the
helmet
was
fitting
right
and
our
fire
folks
came
right
away.
Q
Q
This
is
a
motorcycle
and
not
a
not
an
e-bike,
and
also
when
there
is
an
e-bike
speeding
around
on
the
bike,
the
beach
Trail.
You
could
be
able
to
identify
that
bike
instead
of
oh
well,
we
don't
know
who
that
was
so
and
then
enforcement's,
obviously
an
issue,
but
but
the
sheriff's
department
is
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
do.
They're
supposed
to
educate.
Then
then
cite
we
need
to
have
staff
supported
and
fully
funded
to
be
able
to
implement
this
critical
safety
program.
Q
I
actually
would
I
wasn't
even
thinking
about
I
would
support
giving
emergency
Powers
frankly
to
our
to
our
city
manager,
to
be
able
to
carry
some
of
these
things
out.
The
problem
is
we
don't?
We
haven't
supported
the
city
with
staff
to
be
able
to
execute
that
type
of
program
right
now,
I
know
our
Public
Safety
Committee
is
working
on
it
and
hopefully
they
can
get
a
plan
together.
But
that's
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
a
certified
training
program.
Q
We
can't
just
have
it
be
school
by
school,
it's
got
to
be
Citywide
supported
by
our
e-bike
I
wish
we'd
the
Epic
folks
here
still
our
e-bike.
You
know
sellers
in
town
and
and
an
approach
that
the
city
provides
leadership
on
and
really
takes
a
step
forward
to
to
keeping
our
kids
safe.
We
can't
just
rely
on
the
kids
to
keep
themselves
safe.
So
that's
where
I'd
like
to
see
in
the
relatively
near
future,
open
to
ideas
about
how
to
move
that
process
forward.
Q
I
know
that
there's
a
there's
State
legislation
that
empowers
the
California
Highway
Patrol
to
drop
basic
training
program
guidelines
that
then
cities
can
use.
Hopefully
that's
coming
soon,
but
we've
gotta,
we've
gotta
act.
It's
not
enough
to
hold
just
rodeos
and
events
which
are
nice
photo
ops,
but
don't
actually
move
the
ball
down
the
field.
I
want
to
see
real
action,
so
hopefully
that's
where
we'll
go
and
I
certainly
will
be
be
supporting
you
know,
supporting
the
city
and
taking
those
steps.
C
Mayor
Pro
Tema
had
no
idea.
You
were
opposed
to
photo
ops,
so
I
will
Echo
most
of
what
what
Chris
has
said.
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
register
these
things.
I
think
we
were
I.
Think
society
as
a
whole
is
caught
flat-footed
on
the
proliferation
of
e-bikes
this.
This
came
out
of
nowhere
I'm,
not
sure
anyone
predicted
this
I
was
in
any
bike
shop
the
other
day,
and
there
were.
C
There
was
an
e-bike
there
that
you
had
a
rider
and
then
you
know,
like
the
rickshaws
you
see
in
in
in
the
movies
from
the
Far
East.
You
know
for
the
old
movies
and
it
had
like
a
rickshaw
three
across
seat.
So
four
people
on
an
e-bike
that
how
how
is
that
safe?
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
enforcing
or
or
or
creating
criteria
for
for
e-bikes
in
the
city?
I,
don't
even
know
if
we
have
the
legal
authority
to
do
that,
but
we
certainly
need
to
register
I.
C
Think
the
e-bike
retailers
you
know,
I'm
I'm,
always
talking
about
capitalism,
but
with
capitalism
comes
accountability,
I
think
the
e-bike
retailers
need
to
take
the
lead
they
need.
They
need
to
get
together.
They
need
to
create
a
safety
program,
a
a
they.
They
need
to
create
a
a
program
in
which
both
parents
and
children
learn
how
to
write
these
things
safely.
C
Several
months
ago,
I
saw
a
gentleman
going
down,
Veracruz
coming
down
the
hill
and
he
wiped
out
didn't
have
a
helmet
and
what
would
have
been
some
scrapes
and
soreness.
He
had
a
traumatic
brain
injury.
He
was
in
a
coma
and
you
know-
and
this
was
a
middle-aged
guy-
this
was
not
a.
This
was
not
a
kid.
We've.
We've
had
an
e-bike
death
here
last
the
previous
summer.
We
had
an
e-bike
death
between
Doheny
and
San
Juan.
This
this
will
continue,
and
we
have
absolutely
positively
have
to
do
something
about
this.
Q
C
O
Okay,
I'm
not
meeting
the
micro
I
met
this
the
whole
thing
here,
yeah
just
to
fill
in
some
black.
Everybody
has
said
perfect
things
about
this,
including
Mark
I
Echo
Mark's
comments.
He
kind
of
hit
all
the
points,
but
I
will.
What
I
can
fill
in
is
is
what
Carlsbad
is
is
actually
done.
I'm
fortunate
enough
Sergeant,
Scott
Merritt
is
in
charge
of
traffic
down
there
and
has
been
given
this
project
since
May
I
know.
O
Scott
I
was
very
excited
to
hear
that
he
got
it
because
I
know
that
this
guy
is
very
passionate
about
safety
and
traffic
and
I
know
that
he'd
be
aggressive
in
doing
whatever
they
wanted
to
do.
To
try
to
make
Carlsbad
a
safer
place
for
the
e-bikes
they've
kind
of
have
a
multi-prong
approach.
What
they
did
was
they
established
a
diversion
program
kind
of
like
when
you
know
juveniles
get
in
trouble
and
instead
of
charging
them,
they
do
a
diversion
in
education.
O
They
created
a
e-bike
education
program
that
lasts
three
hours,
and
then
they
started
getting
aggressively
in
in
enforcement.
They
actually
have
a
officer
that
only
thing
he
does
is
ebike
enforcement.
Now
and
that's
what
he
does
every
day,
he
hangs
at
the
schools
hands
wherever
and
he
stops
everybody,
and
the
first
thing
he
does
is,
let's
say
for
a
helmet,
stops
him.
What's
your
parents
phone
number
calls
the
parent
right
then,
and
there
says
hey
you
know:
Johnny
is
not
wearing
his
helmet
nine
times
out
of
ten,
it's
Johnny's
not
wearing
his
helmet.
O
The
parents
have
no
idea
now.
They
know
they
also
offer.
We
can
write
him
a
ticket
or
we
can
offer
him
this
diversion
program
where
he
goes
to
a
three-hour
class
and
get
some
information.
They
go
I'm
coming
right
down
there
to
pick
him
up
because
he
can't
drive
because
he
doesn't
have
a
helmet
and
that
diversion
program
sounds
great.
It's
had
a
huge,
huge
impact
because
it
does
educate
the
parents
most.
The
parents,
don't
know
that
their
kids
are
riding
three
people
on
a
bike.
O
They
don't
know
so
now,
they're
told
so
now
that
gets
the
parents
involved.
Most
parents
on
these
surrounds
and
and
Captain
benfield's
doing
a
great
job
with
the
surrounds
he's
stopping
him
when
he
can
catch
him
because
that's
difficult.
Sometimes
you
don't,
but
eventually
he
stops
them.
The
bite
goes:
it's
an
illegal
vehicle.
It's
like
driving
a
vehicle,
it's
not
registered
on
the
roadway
you
take
it
call
the
parents
and
and
I
don't
know
if
Captain
Penfield
has
any
direct
evidence
of
this,
but
I.
O
O
The
enforcement
is
an
important
part
of
this
and
it's
a
hardcore
hit
them
hard
early
hit
them.
Often
the
word
gets
out
and
then
it
starts
to
decrease
and
we
maybe
entertain
the
fact
that
we
we
have
some
overtime
money
stored.
Maybe
we
could
have
some
of
the
motor
officers.
The
sheriffs
work
a
couple
of
weeks
real
hard
on
this
and
and
hit
it
and
get
the
word
out.
O
Maybe
they
have
to
look
at
a
two-minute
video
or
something
whoever
buys
an
e-bike
and
look
at
it
and
sees
rules
of
the
road.
These
are
not
e-bikes.
If
a
class
three
have
to
be
over
16,
you
have
to
follow
the
rules
of
the
road,
and
maybe
something
like
that
to
to
start
with.
There's
also
a
possible
registration
might
be
part
of
this.
Also,
where
we
we
register
the
e-bikes
in
town,
so
the
parents
know,
are
they
getting
a
class
one,
two
or
three
if
they're
buying
it
class,
three
is
not
for
their
kids.
O
There's
plenty
of
kids
writing
class
threes
in
Talent.
So
right,
the
Early
Education
is
really
really
important,
but
the
enforcement
is
also
important.
Also,
we
have
to
make
that
part
of
the
of
the
of
the
fork
that
we
use
and
Scott
I
I
can
hook
him
up
with
any
any
of
you
and
it's
funny
when
I
first
texted,
Scott
and
said
I've
got
this
e-bike
issue.
Also,
we've
got
to
look
at
and
I
didn't
even
say
what
it
was
and
he
texts
back
immediately.
O
I
know
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
12
year
olds
in
town
and
then
then
it
was
some
cop
talk.
So
I
won't
share
that
I'll
share
it
privately
with
you,
but
basically
it
was
yeah.
We've
got
some
kids
that
that
are
just
they're
kind
of
doing
what
kids
do,
but
it's
dangerous
and
they
don't
know
it's
dangerous
and
they
need
to
be
saved
from
themselves
sometimes
and
so
I
I
think
we
can
do
this.
Also
talked
with
Captain
Benfield
had
a
great
idea
he's
going
to
take
it
back
to
his
bosses.
O
Maybe
we
can
do
something:
County
Wide
with
with
ocsd,
where
we
have
a
set
policy
and
we
all
get
on
it
and
work
the
same
way
for
this.
But
it's
just
like
I
say
we're
you'll
be
getting
this
report
from
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
we're
going
to
basically
I
I
hope.
Give
you
everything.
I
just
said
that
again
it's
it's
a
multi-prom
prong
attack
and
it's
the
education,
the
follow-up
and
then
the
enforcement
has
to
be
done
and
we
need
to
do
what
we
have
to
do.
O
C
C
S
G
Report
good
evening
Council
and
mayor
James,
this
item
is
going
to
be
a
property.
That's
familiar
to
you!
It's
at
the
corner
of
this
Hermos
and
lapada,
and
the
item
in
front
of
you
is
not
a
consideration
of
a
project
at
this
time,
but
merely
a
consideration
of
a
negotiating
agreement
for
a
period
of
three
months
where
the
council
could
discuss
potential
terms
with
PMB
regarding
a
potential
medical
building,
and
so
it's
simply
a
framework
for
those
discussions.
G
There
is
an
option
for
extension
within
that
period
and
highlighted
within
the
report
as
well,
is
a
desire
by
the
city
and
that
party
or
city
staff
in
that
party
to
confirm
the
status
of
the
the
Surplus
property
in
terms
of
the
Surplus
Land
Act.
We
believe
that
we've
completed
all
required
steps
in
that
process,
but
it
has
been
amended
a
couple
of
times
since
the
the
actions
were
taken
by
the
city,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
would
look
to
do
right
away.
D
I
I
I'm
I've
mixed
emotions
on
this
I
I
think
it's
good
to
move
forward
on
this
site.
But
what
concerns
me
a
little
bit
is
that
the
the
Surplus
act
we
began
about
what
four
four
or
five
years
ago,
with
the
determination
that
this
property
is
subject
to
the
Surplus
Land
Act.
That
needs
to
be
analyzed
and
reviewed.
The
council
before
the
president
Council,
was
installed
before
Chris
and
I
came
on
the
council.
There
was
a
number
of
offers
that
were
made
and
the
bulk
of
them
were
gas
stations.
D
The
community
has
spoken
pretty
loud
and
clear
that
gas
stations
isn't
something
that
the
community
has
a
big
appetite
for
at
the
present
time.
This
particular
party
that
we're
suggesting
we
enter
into
an
exclusive
negotiating
agreement
with
has
what
was
part
of
that
original
group
of
applicants,
and
my
concern
is
that
there's
been
so
many
years
that
have
passed
and
there
may
be
other
opportunities.
I
was
aware
of
one
application.
I
Q
Have
yeah
I
I
I
get
that
point,
but
you
know
we
had
this
open
for
a
good
period
of
time.
Anyone
could
bid.
We
got
a
variety
of
bids
yeah.
There
was
a
lot
of
the
gas
station
car
wash
Market
concept,
which
would
have
brought
Revenue,
but
this
was
this
was
part
of
that
solicitation
it
it's
it's
a
reputable
health
care
provider
and
the
idea
of
going
back
and
starting
from
scratch
again
just
just
I
mean
I
can't
support
that
I
mean
we.
Q
We
do
need
health
care
services,
particularly
in
the
Talega
area,
so
I'd
like
to
to
see
us
enter
this
and
explore
what
we
can
do
with
Hogue
and
if
it
doesn't
work
out
it
doesn't
work
out,
but
I
think
we
have
this
window
to
to
do
this
and
we
should
pursue
it
rather
than
starting
from
scratch
multi-multi-year
process
to
get
to
anything
else.
Councilmember
Ward.
K
You
know
my
feelings,
I'm
concerned
about
that.
This
is
a
a
property
owner-
that's
not
going
to
pay
any
property
taxes
and
I'm
from
the
old
Council,
where
this
lot
was
held
out
to
be
Revenue
generating
for
the
city
of
San
Clemente,
and
we
held
it
out
as
our
most
important
lot
for
that
for
future
of
the
revenue.
I'm.
K
E
Well,
I
I
support
entering
the
ENA
on
this.
We
do
need
health
care
services,
they're
critical
for
the
community
gas
stations.
I
know
a
couple
council
members
here
did
still
support
the
gas
station
for
the
revenue,
but
number
one
is
what
the
community
needs
not
not
about
Revenue,
but
it's
about
what
the
community
wants-
and
they
spoke
loud
loudly
on
that
so
but
I
do
like
this
concept.
E
C
D
C
Q
I'm
asking
that's
part
of
the
motion:
it's
in
the
motion
right
all
right,
I'll,
move
that
we
approve
and
authorize
the
interim
city
manager
to
execute
contract
number
c22-58
and
an
exclusive
negotiating
agreement
buying
between
the
city
of
San,
Clemente
and
Pacific
Medical
buildings
LLC
for
the
city-owned
parcel
at
the
southwest
corner
of
Avenida,
Vista
Hermosa
and
Avenida
La
pada.
Second,
all.
E
D
Access
off
the
freeway
I
just
think
it
in
terms
of
of
all
the
places
where
we
need
better
access
to
that's,
probably
one
and
I
think
in
light
of
the
litigation,
this
public
knowledge
and
has
been
filed
and
is
in
the
process
of
of
moving
forward
that
we
at
least
think
about
maybe
have
the
the
traffic
engineer
at
least
look
at
that
intersection
see
if
there's
some
way
to
open
that
thing
up
and
widen
it.
Just
a
just
a
thought:
I,
don't
know!
If
he's
a
motion
to
refer
to
the
traffic
engineer,.
K
D
K
Question
that
we
adjourn
to
an
adjourned
regular
meeting
to
be
held
on
October
4th
2022
at
3
o'clock
P.M
for
the
purpose
of
meeting
in
closed
session
to
review
City
Attorney
Services
part.
One
of
the
regular
business
meeting
will
commence
at
five
o'clock.
P.M
and
closed
session
will
commence
begin
at
six
o'clock.
P.M
part
two
of
the
regular
business
meeting
will
commence
at
seven
o'clock
P.M.
The
meeting
will
take
place
in
the
council
chambers.
Look
at
it.
910
Calia
negosio
second
floor
secondary.