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From YouTube: Budget Workshop May 22, 2019
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00:01:20 Presentation of the City's Fiscal Year 2018-19 Third Quarter Financial Report
00:04:50 Fiscal Year 2019-20 City Budget
A
E
All
right
so
given
to
you
today
is
the
2018-19
third
quarter
report
were
again
past
the
March
31st
timeframe,
where
more
than
three
quarters
of
the
way
through
this
fiscal
year.
So
this
is
a
report
on
that
again,
just
kind
of
I
usually
do
this
every
quarter
kind
of
give
you
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are.
Where
we've
been,
you
can
see
from
16
17
17
18,
18
19
we've
been
in
the
62
to
64
percent
range
again
we're
just
kind
of
in
line
with
expectations.
E
There's
there's
more
information
in
the
report
related
to
these
items,
but
general
fund
revenues.
You
can
see
we're
coming
in
at
62%.
The
ranges
vary
from
44%
all
the
way
up
to
83%
and
those
a
lot
of
the
differences
are
kind
of
related
that
the
timing
of
things
property
taxes
come
in
in
April
and
different
things
like
that.
So
that's
a
quick
snapshot
of
the
general
fund
revenues
as
of
March
31st,
31st,
2009,
general
fund
expenditures.
Again
this
kind
of
a
big
look
at
it.
E
Typically
we're
around
the
same
as
we
are
in
previous
years.
We
have
16
17,
17,
18
and
18
19
for
historical
context,
we're
at
50
point
9,
which
is
65
percent
of
the
expenditures
again
kind
of
in
line
with
expectations.
At
this
point
and
here's
a
little
bit
more
information
on
them,
we
have
salaries,
benefits
supplies,
contract
services,
other
charges,
capital
outlay
in
our
department,
all
transfers
in
debt
and
again
some
of
these
different
are
different
due
to
timing
capital
outlay.
We
have
multiple
year
projects.
E
That's
why
we're
only
at
26%
some
projects
may
be
going
full
gangbusters,
some
might
be
getting
off
the
ground
or
being
done.
Is
that
again?
No?
Nothing
really
outside
of
expectations
at
this
point
for
those
operating
position
again,
this
is
the
operating
for
the
position.
For
the
year
we
had
some
mid-year
adjustments,
which
boosted
this
up.
The
general
fund
operate
in
position
for
1819
at
this
point
is
approximately
1.3
million
based
on
operating
revenues
at
65
point
2
and
operating
expenditures
of
63
point
9.
E
A
C
F
G
That
is
that
we've
done
for
the
past
couple
years
through
town
we're
still
working
on
the
fourth
firefighter
at
station
50
that
we
added
with
the
hospital
closure.
A
few
years
ago,
Eric
will
explain
in
a
little
bit
greater
detail,
but
that
position
was
originally
funded
through
Oh
CFA,
it's
about
an
eight-year
process
where
we
will
be
coming.
G
You
know,
last
night
we
had
a
pretty
big
discussion
on
the
homeless
issue,
we're
working
through
it
today,
that's
what
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
doing
until
we
got
to
the
budget,
we're
still
working
on
the
on
the
toll
road
project
and
processing
our
our
fight
against
any
routes
that
might
come
through
San
Clemente.
We
budget
approximately
$400,000
for
the
Battle
of
the
toll
road
to
protect
the
city
ongoing
public
safety
costs
we'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
deeper
into
the
budget,
but
Public
Safety
is
always
going
up.
G
Direction
to
staff
was
to
come
to
a
resolution
on
it
and
I
want
to
thank
Heather,
Lowe
and
Bill
Humphreys
for
working
through
this
for
my
direction
and
come
up
with
something-
and
you
know
the
lifeguards
are
now
on
par
with
the
rest
of
the
employees,
for
the
city,
future
cost
increases
that
will
affect
the
city's
operating
position,
so
that
might
be
homelessness.
Ongoing
toll
road
battle
but,
like
I,
said
Public
Safety
costs.
Those
are
those
are
there.
You
know,
and
challenges
also
is
loss
of
sales
tax
revenue.
G
As
we
see
the
expansion
of
online
shopping
experience,
you
know
it
reduces
the
amount
of
sales
tax
that
comes
back
to
the
city.
It's
unfortunate,
you
know
it's,
it's
I,
think
October
of
15
is
when
the
outlets
opened
up
here
in
the
city,
they're
at
they've
opened
up
phase
one.
It's
about
three
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
I
want
to
say
it's
about
75
percent
occupied.
They
still
have
phase
two
to
open
up
in
the
future,
which
is
another
hundred
and
seventy
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
square
feet
of
retail.
D
Good
afternoon
Eric's
and
assistant
city
manager,
so
I'm
gonna
do
a
portion
of
the
presentation.
Then
I'll
be
turning
it
over
to
Jake
Rahn
our
finance
services
officer
to
go
over
more
of
the
budget.
One
of
the
things
that
I
did
want
to
touch
off
with
and
I
know
that
this
was
a
question
posed
at
last
night's
City
Council
meeting
as
it
relates
to
our
m2
audit
with
octa
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
as
we're
addressing
the
budget.
D
We're
also
addressing
any
other
answered,
unanswered
questions,
and
so
at
the
conclusion
of
those
inquiries.
The
city
I
reached
out
to
Janet
Sutter
of
the
octa
as
executive
director
of
internal
audits
and
then
provided
the
below
statement.
The
bottom
line-
and
this
will
be
available
to
the
public.
This
whole
PowerPoint
will
be
posted
on
our
website
and
people
can
look
at
this.
The
bottom
line.
If
you
go
to
the
bottom
and
short,
the
city
didn't
fail.
D
The
audits
were
brought
public
publicly
to
the
octa
fna
Committee
on
March
in
March
and
the
Board
of
Directors
in
April.
The
audits
will
also
go
public
to
the
audit
subcommittee
of
the
TOC
tonight,
which
was
yesterday.
We
added
a
total
of
twelve
different
cities.
11
audits
of
LFS
and
four
of
SMP
LFS
is
the
m2
transportation
funds
and
the
SMP
is
the
senior
mobility
program.
D
When
presenting
the
results
to
the
F
and
a
committee
I
said
Janet,
the
auditors
identified
findings
that
every
city
audited,
except
one
and
in
many
cases,
identified
multiple
findings,
so
San
Clemente
is
not
alone.
Many
of
the
findings
were
specific
to
do
with
agreed
upon
procedures
so,
for
instance,
in
bullets,
a
the
audit
of
the
local
fair
share
identified
the
issues
of
one
expenditure
for
$3,800,
which
was
not
properly
classified
as
an
mo
ii
expenditure.
However,
after
removing
the
amount
from
MOA,
the
city
still
met
their
required
minimum
mo
e
going
to
split
number
B.
D
The
audit
of
the
senior
mobility
program
side
of
the
following
and
reporting
err
on
the
expenditure
report.
Again,
three
of
the
four
cities
audited
had
some
of
the
same
types
of
reporting
errors
of
which
the
city
has
said
that
they
will
be
revising
the
file
which
we've
already
done
in
the
revised
report
and
submitted
into
one
ineligible
SMP
trip
for
$30
keeping
in
mind
the
senior
mobility
program
and
I
know.
Councilmember
Ferguson
is
aware
of
this
very
well
because
it
was
something
under
her
purview
when
she
worked
here.
D
There
are
boundaries
in
terms
of
where
we
can
transport
seniors
in
the
senior
mobility
program
and
then
three
transportation
services
not
competitively
bid,
but
that
was
corrected.
Effective
August
of
2018,
thanks
to
Tom
Vonnegut
in
Public
Works,
who
conducted
a
new
RFP
for
senior
mobility
program
and
council
awarded
it
to
I,
want
to
say,
yellow
cab.
If
I
remember
correctly,
our
previous
provider
was
aged
well
and
then
for
a
late
submission
of
monthly
reports.
This
was
observed
at
three
of
the
four
cities
audited.
So
again
she
indicated
there
is
no
pass
or
fail
for
cities.
D
However,
based
on
the
audits,
two
cities
were
found
ineligible
to
receive
M.
Two
funds
of
those
two
cities
were
agendized
at
last
week's
board
of
directors
meeting
with
octa.
However,
San
Clemente
was
not
one
of
these
cities
and
when
the
annual
eligibility
review
subcommittee
of
the
TOC
met
last
week,
they
suggested
three
cities
that
were
audited
for
fiscal
year.
17
and
18
will
be
Reata,
din,
18
and
19,
and
one
of
these
is
San.
Clemente,
so
will
be
looked
at
again.
D
The
final
decision
as
to
what
cities
to
select
for
audit
will
be
made
by
the
audit
subcommittee
of
the
taxpayers,
Oversight
Committee
and
they
meet
tonight.
Although
I
imagine
they
will
Reece
elect
San
Clemente,
so
they're
gonna
check
on
us
again
we
didn't
lose
any
issues
of
expenditure
or
grant
monies
and
we
were
in
compliance
with
that.
So
again,
I
just
wanted
to
address
this.
This
will
be
available
on
our
website
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
budget.
So
it's
important
every
year
we
do
a
budget
and
an
LT
F
P.
D
We
talk
about
themes,
and
this
goes
back
to
my
predecessor,
Paul
good
garrison,
who
talked
about
having
a
theme
within
the
budget
so
for
2016
and
17.
It
was
investing
today
to
protect
tomorrow
and
17
and
18.
It
was
as
we
approach
route
two
years.
It
is
essential
for
the
city
to
do
more
with
less
and
then
in
eighteen
and
nineteen.
D
So
the
key
themes
maintain
a
strong
financial
foundation.
We
do
that
already
by
implementing
the
long-term
financial
plan
recommendations
and,
as
James
touched
on.
This
is
a
road
map
that
both
the
council
in
the
public
can
provide
direction
at
the
LT
F
P
workshop.
As
we
begin
the
budget
process
and
out
of
that
LT
F
P,
we
came
back
with
pension
pay
down,
so
we
have
a
four
hundred
thousand
one-time
pay
down.
That
Jake
will
cover
a
little
bit
later
in
his
presentation
in
adding
fiscal
policies
on
pensions
to
address
our
unfunded
liabilities.
D
Also,
the
transfer
of
capital
project
funds
and
funding
reserves,
as
I
touched
on
earlier,
making
sure
that
we
have
money
to
deal
with
critical
infrastructure
and
in
working
to
increase
the
operating
position
for
eighteen
and
nineteen.
Because
again,
our
operating
position
dictates
how
much
money
we
have
for
unassigned
fund
balance
to
fund
our
one
times,
be
its
CIPS
or
other
one-time
priorities,
reallocating
budget
services
to
meet
priorities.
So
we're
constantly
looking
at
different
opportunities.
D
Think,
as
a
government
agency
were
always
tasked
with
maintaining
efficiency
and
not
getting
stale
in
any
routine
and
always
making
sure
that
we
can
do
it,
the
most
efficient
way
possible
and
cost-effective
and
then
again
continue
investing
in
the
future
of
San
Clemente.
As
I've
said
multiple
times
during
the
2008
recession,
the
city
couldn't
fund
reserves.
Since
2012
13
we've
got
back
on
that
track
of
funding
reserves
because,
as
parks
deteriorate,
if
you
don't
have
money
to
replace
them,
I
go
back
to
that
broken
window
theory.
One
of
the
big
steps
forward.
D
That's
going
to
guide
us
over
the
next
15
years
as
the
Beach
Park,
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
implementation
that
is
currently
going
on.
You've
had
some
updates
in
the
current
budget
year
and
you'll
see
tonight
some
of
those
implementation
measures
going
forward
in
the
1920
budget.
Again,
I
want
to
give
a
shout-out
to
Samantha
Wylie,
who
has
taken
the
lead
on
this
and
really
done
a
great
job
and
then
also
our
information
technology
technology,
strategic
plan.
D
We
didn't
have
IT
plan
or
a
strategic
thought
process
as
what
we
were
going
to
do
from
an
IT
standpoint
and
four
years
ago,
led
by
Brian
Brower.
He
created
the
IT
strategic
plan
that
basically
created
the
similar
roadmap
for
our
CI
P's,
identifying
IT
investments
over
the
course
of
six
years
and
Brian's
made
amazing
strides
with
regards
to
doing
a
number
of
projects.
D
I
think
the
most
significant
that
we're
all
enjoying
is
the
recent
transition
to
our
voice
over
IP
system
on
our
phones,
which
was
long
overdue
and
has
created
such
a
stream
line
of
easier
access
and
service
to
the
public.
So
I
give
kudos
to
Brian
and
his
team,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
it's
important
to
note.
Anytime
a
position
is
vacant.
We
stop
we
step
back
and
we
reevaluate
those
positions
and
those
functions,
and
so
tonight
you're
gonna,
see
or
today
you're
gonna
see
some
of
the
results
of
that.
D
So
in
the
general
fund
we
see
a
decrease
of
1.75
full-time
positions.
That's
a
net
below
we've
got
some
changes
that
reflect
that
with
regards
to
finance
and
administrative
services,
the
building
division,
beaches,
Park
and
Recreation
other
funds,
I
utilities,
where
we
have
a
decrease
of
2.0
FTE
positions.
D
The
one
thing
that's
amazing
about
the
employees
in
San
Clemente
is
they're
up
for
a
challenge
and
they
can
always
do
look
for
improvements
at
how
to
deliver
services
and-
and
we
couldn't
do
these
types
of
reallocations
or
reorganizations
without
the
support
of
the
employees
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
we
can
give
recommendations,
but
it's
the
employees
who
really
implement
those
recommendations
and
on
all
these
recommendations
you
see
before
you.
D
These
were
actually
brought
forward
by
the
department
managers
or
division
managers
and
department
heads
in
terms
of
recommending
ways
to
do
it
better
because
it's
been
such
a
long-standing
practice
in
the
city
to
always.
Look
at
reevaluating
vacant
positions
that
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
Jake
Ron
our
financial
services
officer
and
he's
going
to
give
a
budget
overview.
E
E
Four
and
total
expenditures
or
costs
are
budgeted
at
a
hundred
and
forty
four
point:
nine,
as
as
usual
with
this
expenditures,
are
slightly
more
than
revenues,
and
that's
because
we're
using
one-time
resources,
whether
it
be
fund
balance
or
one-time
revenues
received
in
previous
years
for
costs.
So
just
looking
at
the
costs,
the
all
funds
overview,
this
is
on
page
31.
E
The
city
has
five
major
fund
groups
and
within
those
fund
groups
there
are
twenty-six
funds.
Just
so
you
understand,
the
general
fund
is
about
forty
nine
percent
of
the
total
costs,
and
then
enterprise
comes
in
second
at
about
thirty
six
percent.
It
costs
and
those
would.
The
enterprise
funds
include
water
sewer,
which
are
the
the
primary
big
ones
for
the
enterprise
funds
and
with
the
next
couple
of
slides
or
with
the
next
few
slides
I'll,
be
focusing
on
the
general
fund,
again,
revenues
and
expenditures
comparison.
E
This
is
all
costs
all
revenues,
including
operating
and
one-time
costs,
or
a
capital
costs.
So
this
includes
everything
and
like
the
all
funds
you
can
see,
the
expenditures
are
slightly
higher
than
the
revenues
again
we'd
be
using
fund
balance
or
revenues
received
in
previous
years
for
those
one-time
costs,
whether
it
be
capital
in
nature
or
other
one-time
cost.
That
need
to
be
done
so
the
next
slide,
the
general
fund
operating
budget
comparison,
this
one
factors
out
capital,
outlay
and
reserve
transfer
or
one-time
transfers.
So
you
can
see
we're
kind
of
still
a
little
bit
tight.
E
E
To
get
a
little
bit
more
specific
on
the
general
fund
operating
position
again,
these
tie
out
to
the
previous
slide
and
go.
We
have
operating
revenue
of
sixty
seven
billion
three
hundred
thirty,
eight
seven
hundred
ninety
thousand
less
the
operating
expenditures
of
sixty
six
937
fifty
dollars
for
operating
position,
four
hundred
and
one
thousand,
which
it
might
sound
like
big
dollars,
but
when
you're
already
talking
big
dollars,
is
it's
not
that
big
again
it's
point
six
or
the
four
hundred
one
thousand
is
approximately
0.6
percent
of
the
operating
costs.
E
So
just
so,
you
have
a
little
bit
of
perspective.
Typically,
we
we'd
like
to
have
this
number
a
little
bit
more
around
500,000
to
a
million
just
to
provide
funds
for
future
capital
projects
and
provide
a
little
bit
more
of
operating
buffer.
If
things
come
up
during
the
course
of
the
year
to
deal
with
those
circumstances,.
E
No
total
general
fund
revenues,
I'm
just
gonna
focus
a
little
bit
on
the
dollar
change
column
and
primarily
the
big
changes
you
can
see.
The
first
line
is
taxes.
It's
going
up
about
3%,
so
about
1.6
million.
The
primary
driver
of
that
is
the
property
tax
revenue
that
we're
anticipating
for
next
year.
Sales
tax,
which
is
also
a
component
of
that
is
relatively
flat.
E
With
the
previous
year
kind
of
going
back
a
little
bit
to
James's
comment
earlier
Intergovernmental
you
can
see
a
big
decrease
and
the
bit
reason
for
the
big
decrease
is
the
safe
routes
to
school.
Capital
project
was
funded
through
a
grant
so
again,
naturally
we're
carrying
out
that
project
we're
not
getting
in
that
grant
every
year,
so
those
costs
are
going
down.
In
addition,
we
also
have
the
SC
rides,
which
is
included
in
that
amount,
and
there
was
I
want
to
say
around
a
million
dollars
a
900,000
for
that.
E
So
that's
a
portion
of
the
decrease.
Also
another
big
decrease
is
in
the
inter
fund
revenue
and
those
are
actually
transfers
coming
in
from
other
funds
to
assist
with
capital
projects
in
the
general
fund.
So
that's
the
the
decrease
again.
Capital
projects
happen
over
time,
so
that
can
fluctuate
from
year
to
year.
E
E
Do
some
comments
on
the
next
couple
of
slides
for
that
also
to
point
out
again
the
capital
out
like
outlay
kind
of
going
to
my
previous
comments
about
the
the
revenues
coming
in,
we
had
grants
for
a
capital
project
and
then
other
transfers
coming
in
to
support
those
projects
again.
Capital
outlay.
There's
a
lot
of
information
on
that
in
the
capital
improvement
program,
section
of
the
budget,
interfund
transfers
it's
about
2.5
million
and
what
that
decrease
is
is
2.5
million
was
actually
transferred.
E
Some
of
you
around
some
of
you,
weren't
around
back
in
2017
LT
FP
in
2018,
opt
FP.
We
recommended
2
years
of
transfers
of
2.5
million
dollars
each
year
to
capital
reserves
so
that
the
last
year
of
that
was
in
1819.
So
again
we
came
to
the
complete
completion
of
that.
It's
not
budgeted
for
in
1920
to
move
those
funds
over
to
the
capital
reserve.
E
What
we
came
to
realize
as
part
of
the
whole
Olli
Hansen,
Beach
Club
process
and
the
renovation
costs
related
to
that-
is
that
we
needed
to
set
aside
a
lot
more
in
our
reserves
to
deal
with
potential
things
that
might
happen
in
the
future
and
as
part
of
the
ltap
process.
We're
gonna
go
be
going
through
that
in
future
years,
a
little
bit
more
to
better
identify
projects
that
those
should
be
allocated
to
or
different
things
like
that.
So
can.
F
E
We
do
because,
because
we've
got
two
kinds
of
fun
types,
going
back
to
our
five
different
categories,
it
gets
a
little
bit
accounting
here,
but
on
governmental
funds
you
don't
necessarily
depreciate
those
assets.
However,
you
can
set
aside
reserves
for
those
on
the
governmental
side,
but
then
you
go
to
again.
It
gets
a
little
bit
accounting-wise
on
the
on
the
full
accrual
basis.
You
do
that
we
actually
present
both
in
the
city's
annual
financial
report,
the
full
accrual
basis
and
the
governmental
basis.
So
yes,
and
no.
E
One
of
the
ways
that
we
set
aside
funds
is
we
look
at
the
activity,
that's
happening
from
those
capital
reserves
and
figure
out
the
costs
related
to
that
and
try
to
charge
back
or
allocate
those
costs
to
the
department.
So
it's
not
exactly
depreciation,
but
it
is
setting
aside
funds
based
on
the
activity.
Okay,.
E
Alright,
so
going
into
the
personnel
budget
or
hitting
a
little
bit
more
on
the
personnel
costs
again
this
last
year
of
a
three-year
agreement
with
the
Association,
the
MOU
expires,
June
thirtieth
salaries
increased
3.1
percent
in
each
of
the
years.
At
the
agreement,
again,
we've
reached
full
employee
pick
up
of
their
share
of
the
retirement
costs,
and
then
there
is
an
annual
increase
to
city
paid
portion
of
health
insurance.
E
Also
included
in
that
number
is
ongoing
step
increases,
including
the
budget,
so
as
people
receive
increases
based
on
merit,
those
are
received
and
again
just
to
comment
a
little
bit
on
Eric's
slide
earlier.
The
general
fund
is
actually
going
down
by
one
and
three
quarters.
Fte
and
other
funds
are
going
down
by
two
FTEs
alright.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
more
of
the
same
information
just
presented
in
a
different
way
for
the
general
fund,
expenditures
and
I'll
focus
a
little
bit
on
the
general
fund
police
services,
marine
safety
and
public
works.
E
So
the
general
government,
you
can
see
it's
going
down
by
6.4
million
dollars
again
going
to
the
some
of
the
comments
that
I've
already
talked
about.
Some
of
that
is
the
2.5
million
dollar
transfer
that
we're
not
doing
this
year
again,
we
have
already
accomplished
what
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
through
two
years
of
2.5
million
dollar
transfers.
So
part
of
that
decrease
is
the
2.5
million
dollars.
Part
of
it
is
a
reallocation.
E
What
we
realized
is,
as
we
are
going
through
the
budget
in
doing
the
poll
pension
paper
as
part
of
the
LT
F
P,
the
police
services
or
the
Public
Safety
UAL,
which
is
the
unfunded
actuarial
liability
for
the
pension,
was
actually
being
paid
from
general
government
and
really,
if
you're,
gonna
kind
of
mirror
a
little
bit
more.
What
other
cities
are
doing
that
would
be
paid
from
that
program,
so
what
we
did
is
moved
it
from
general
government,
which
is
1.3
million
down
to
the
police
services
area.
E
So
some
of
that
increase
in
police
services
is
related
to
the
movement
of
that
and
then
also
in
the
general
government
didn't
going
back
to
the
capital
projects.
The
six
point
four
also
includes
the
negotiate,
a
Hall
renovation-
that's
currently
going
on.
So
that's
some
of
that
and
if
you
I
think
that's
three
million
off
the
top
of
my
head,
so
that
kind
of
gets
you
to
approximately
six
point:
four
million
the
police
services.
E
Again,
that's
about
a
one
point:
eight
million
dollar
increase
about
1.2
1.3
of
that
is
related
to
the
movement
from
the
general
government
of
those
pension
costs
for
public
safety.
Marine
safety
I'll
point
out.
They
they
seem
to
have
a
large
increase,
but
that's
where
we're,
including
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
one-time
pay
down
of
their
pension
liability,
so
that
accounts
for
some
of
that
next
year.
I
would
anticipate
to
see
a
decrease
in
that
category.
Public
works.
E
We
have
a
three
point:
six
million
dollar
decrease
and
again
kind
of
going
back
to
the
capital
project.
Capital
projects
are
more
multi-year
projects,
so
a
lot
of
projects
are
budgeted
in
1819
they're,
going
to
be
carried
over,
such
as
the
the
bridges,
the
rework
of
the
bridges
down
on
the
beach
trail.
I.
Think
some
of
the
restrooms
are
in
there,
so
that
is
kind
of
a
lot
of
that
in
Crete
or
that
decrease
so
just
kind
of
a
high
level
snapshot
of
what's
actually
going
on
in
those.
E
As
you
can
see,
the
rest
of
the
the
departments
are
kind
of
in
line
with
the
previous
year,
so
not
too
much
changes
there
and
again,
just
because
general
government
we
had
the
big
decrease.
I
did
want
to
go
through
a
little
bit
more
specifically,
what's
occurring
in
the
general
government,
the
interfund
transfers
total
1.8
million
again.
E
A
million
of
that
is
related
to
reserve
transfers
and
that's
identified
in
the
budget
in
the
budget
overview,
but
that
also
came
from
the
2019
LT
FP
we're
doing
the
annual
750
thousand
dollar
transfer
to
the
street
improvement
fund
within
that
general
government
number
is
also
the
Casa
animal
shelter
costs.
We
have
general
liability
fund
charges
of
2.3
million
and
that's
going
over
to
the
liability
fund.
E
Legal
related
in
other
lobbying
amounts
account
to
about
1.6
million
and
that's
going
back
to
the
toll
roads
and
some
of
those
related
costs
and
other
amounts
in
that
category.
Are
the
DBA
for
32,000
that's
flat
with
the
previous
year
social
services
and
that's
a
variety
of
programs
and
that's
about
eighty
eight
thousand
and
then
council
contingency
is
now
at
52,000.
Again
it
used
to
be
at
a
hundred
thousand.
But
since
we
added
the
deputy
last
year,
some
of
those
funds
were
utilized
for
the
funding
of
that
deputy.
So
that's
remaining
at
52,000.
E
Alright
and
since
public
safety
are
some
of
the
biggest
costs
in
the
general
fund,
we
call
these
out
a
little
bit
more
again:
police
services,
seventeen
point,
eight
million.
It
represents
approximately
twenty
seven
percent
about
the
operating
costs.
The
OSI
ESD
contract
is
about
sixteen
million
of
that
the
general
fund
is
about
fifteen
point,
nine
of
it.
So
again
the
vast
majority
of
its
general
fund,
the
base
level
increases
by
approximately
three
hundred
sixty
thousand
or
about
two
point.
E
Six
I
think
it's
slightly
higher
than
two
point
six,
but
it's
like
two
point,
six,
three
years,
two
point:
six,
seven
again,
that's
no
service
level
increase,
but
it
does
maintain
the
two
deputy
officer
positions
added
in
the
previous
year
we
have
incorporated
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
for
the
labor
negotiations
process
and
again
just
calling
out
the
the
UAL
payment
it
includes.
It's
the
one
point
three
of
that
and
it's
actually
one
point
two
five,
but
I
round
it
up
to
one
point:
three,
so
Jay.
D
E
It
was
around
three
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
and
over
the
last
couple
of
years
it
has
jumped
up
to
the
1.2,
1.3
and
they're,
anticipating,
just
because
of
actuarial
assumption
changes
that
to
increase
a
little
bit
more,
which
is
why
we're
also
trying
to
take
steps
to
and
why
we
put
the
pension
update
paper
together
to
hopefully
keep
those
costs
down
in
the
future
to
help
our
future
operating
positions
all
right
on
to
fire
and
ambulance
for
Public
Safety
again,
that
represents
about
16%
of
operating
costs.
It's
about
10
point
7
million.
E
We
have
the
OU
CFA
based
contract
about
9.3
million.
It
increases
by
about
six
hundred
thirty-nine
thousand,
which
includes
the
four
point.
Five
percent
increase
its
maximum
increase
allowed
under
the
contract,
no
service
level
change,
but
it
includes
the
phase-in
of
the
fourth
firefighter
costs:
the
care
ambulance,
services
contract,
that
is
approximately
1.3
million.
The
ambulance
program
budget
includes
or
increases
about,
71
thousand,
and
it
includes
two
full-time
ambulances,
so
again,
those
at
27
percent
and
16
percent.
E
As
you
can
see,
our
substantial
part
of
the
general
fund
operating
costs
now
a
lot
of
times,
you're
wondering
where
we
are.
As
of
the
end
of
the
year
again
we're
funding
the
emergency
reserve,
we're
anticipating
the
emergency
reserve
to
be
about
thirteen
point:
four
million,
the
unassigned
fund
balance.
It
will
be
decreasing
from
seven
million
to
about
3.4
million
again
utilizing
for
a
one-time
costs
or
transfers
to
reserves
or
other
related
things.
E
Some
of
the
other
governmental
fund
highlights.
We
have
the
street
improvement
in
gas
tax
funds
again
just
based
on
their
name.
They're
they're,
primarily
going
for
street
amounts,
camino,
adult
and
de
los
Mara's
is
included
on
that
we
have
the
AQMD
fund,
which
is
currently
helping
fund
some
of
the
San
Clemente
trolley
operation.
We
had
the
police
grants
fund,
which
is
funding
the
other
portion
of
the
sheriff's
contract.
E
We
have
parks,
acquisition,
Development,
Fund,
the
Linda,
Lane
Park
restaurant
capital
project
and
then
I
added
this
one
there's
not
really
much
activity
going
on
there,
but
we
have
the
reserve
capital
projects
fund
and
that
fund
balance
ends
at
twelve
point
two
I
believe
two
years
ago
again
before
our
five
million
dollar
transfers.
That
was
approximately
around
seven
million.
So
that's
where
that
funding
has
gone
I'm
setting
it
aside
for
future
projects.
F
E
F
E
All
right
so
enterprise
funds,
the
highlights
again.
The
focus
recently
have
been
on
water
and
sewer
funds.
Again,
those
are
substantial
portion
of
the
enterprise
funds.
We
in
previous
years
completed
the
water
cost
service
study
and
implemented
a
new
rate
structure,
we're
anticipating
an
increase
of
approximately
nine
percent
on
January
1st
sewer
rates
are
currently
in
process
to
get
that
cost
of
service
study
completed
and
that
would
be
implemented
in
nineteen
twenty
fiscal
year.
H
Good
afternoon,
mayor
and
councilmembers
Tom
Vonnegut
public
works
director
I
just
want
to
make
a
few
key
points
about
the
proposed
capital
improvement
program
and
I
only
have
one
slide,
as
you
saw
in
the
budget
book
for
fiscal
year,
20
we're
proposing
60
new
projects
with
a
collective
value
of
about
21
million
dollars,
spread
throughout
different
categories
like
water,
sewer,
storm
drain
streets,
etc.
The
big
winner
next
year
will
be
in
the
water
fund.
The
single
largest
project.
We're
planning
is
a
complete
replacement
of
the
via
Blanco
pump
station
that
serves
reservoir
nine.
H
This
is
on
our
potable
water
system.
Almost
a
three
million
dollar
project
just
by
itself.
Arguably,
the
most
visible
project
that
we'll
expect
to
see
is
the
complete
complete
reconstruction
of
camino
de
los
Mars
from
the
I-5
freeway
to
Avenida
Vaquero
per
year
prior
direction.
That
will
include
complete
redo
of
the
landscaping
in
the
medians,
and
so
the
budget
does
request
an
additional
$1,000,000.
This
is
gas
tax
money
coming
from
the
increased
gas
tax
to
supplement
the
existing
gas
tax,
we're
probably
looking
at
close
to
two
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
project.
H
H
Nothing
drastically
has
changed
since
we
talked
to
you
in
March.
We
still
have
underlying
concerns
about
the
tree
and
they're
really
root
bound,
have
a
shallow
root
system,
so
the
concern
and
what
was
driving
it
was
they
might
be
susceptible
to
blown
over
in
a
windstorm.
But
we
haven't
had
that
issue.
Fortunately,
the
trees
are
relatively
happier
than
they've
ever
been
because
we've
had
more
rain
than
in
the
past
several
years,
they're
looking
pretty
good
and
we're
also
going
to
reconfigure
the
electrical
design
to
abandon
the
system.
H
That's
under
the
sidewalk
go
through
the
street,
which
also
minimizes
the
impacts
to
the
trees.
So
unless
you
direct
otherwise
it's
our
intent
to
take
the
trees
out
of
the
scope
of
work,
we're
just
going
to
keep
those
healthy
and
we'll
cross
that
bridge
in
a
decade
or
so
when
we
have
to
make
a
bigger
decision
and
the
project
will
be
a
electrical
design
and
we'll
try
and
time
it
with
a
paving
project.
H
I
have
been
coordinating
with
the
board
of
the
DBA
and
I'll
probably
give
an
update
to
the
general
membership
at
their
June
eating,
really
to
start
talking
about
potential
impacts,
and
you
know,
is
there
a
good
time
of
year
and
the
feedback
we're
getting
initially
is
hey
if
you're
gonna?
Do
this
the
relatively
least
disruptive
time
of
years
after
the
holidays?
First
quarter
of
the
calendar
year,
maybe
even
going
out
to
Memorial
Day,
then
cut
it
out
so
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
be
ready
to
do
that
by
the
first
quarter
of
2020
coming
up.
H
If
we're
not
I
think
we
can
wait,
one
more
quarter
and
we'll
go
in
2021,
but
we'll
update
you,
but
we
do
want
to
minimize
the
disruption
when,
when
it's
all
done,
though
it'll
look,
pretty
nice
Delmar
down
there
and
it'll
have
a
system
that
can
serve
the
electrical
needs
for
special
events
and
holiday
lighting.
Finally,
I
wanted
to
run
through
this
we'll
see
if
it
works
as
well
as
it
did
in
my
trial.
Run.
H
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
we're
trying
to
provide
information
in
a
more
consumer,
friendly
format
for
the
public,
and
so
we
have
these
project
sheets,
the
same
sheets
that
are
now
in
your
budget
book
here.
The
idea
is
to
use
this
as
a
vehicle
to
keep
the
public
informed.
So
when
you
get
out
to
our
city
web
page,
all
you
need
to
do
is
where's
the
menu
here
there.
It
is
you
click
on
current
projects.
This
takes
you
to
a
landing
page.
It
does
two
things.
Planning
is
also
implemented.
H
H
H
That's
a
further
tweak
of
last
year
and
we
hope
that'll
be
a
good
venue
with
all
of
our
CIP
program.
If
anyone
has
a
question
about
well,
what
are
you
doing?
It's
also
mapped
to
your
street.
So
even
if
you
don't
know
the
name
of
a
project,
you
can
zoom
in
and
you'll
start
seeing
colored
boxes
to
know.
What's
going
on
near
where
you
live
and
with
that.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
H
I
Kathy,
while
we're
looking
can
I
step
on
your
toes
real
quick
tonight,
can
I
interject
real
quick
sure
so
Kathy's
referring
to
this
packet,
that
we
got
last
minute
from
the
North
Beach
Community
Association?
And
it's
a
reference
to
account
of
roughly
a
hundred
signatures
on
here,
a
petition
to
restriped
the
El
Camino
Rail
Road,
away
from
having
you
to
Pico
to
roughly
Avenida
el
port,
all
from
a
four-lane
thoroughfare
to
a
three
lane,
more
business
and
residential
friendly
sub
arterial.
Essentially
so
I'm
gonna
be
supportive
of
it.
F
Is
someone
familiar
with
it?
Luckily,
on
boca
de
la
playa,
we
have
a
an
engine
and
an
engineer
that
lives
on
that
street.
It
kind
of
looked
at
it
and
shot
me
a
a
concept
of
it,
and
I
know
tom
has
gone
through
it
with
them
and
is
somewhat
staff
is
in
favor
of
it.
I
think
it
it
provides
more
parking.
Also.
It.
H
Won't
change
the
parking,
but
now
they
change
the
road
dynamics.
So
if
to
answer
your
question
so
on
page
238
of
the
budget
book,
there's
a
project
sheet
entitled
arterial,
Street,
pavement
maintenance,
fiscal
year
2020
and
that
has
a
description
and
included
in
that
project,
which
is
a
super
project
of
a
number
of
street
segments-
is
north
El,
Camino
Real
from
Pico
to
roughly
Valencia
a
lot
of
El
Camino
RAL.
H
Basically,
where
we'll
do
crack
sealing
pavement
failure,
repairs
and
slurry
seal
and
then,
of
course,
when
we
finish
up
the
project,
weary
stripe
it
and
the
default
plan
is
to
go
back
and
strike
at
how
it
is
what
council
members
are
discussing.
Is
we
were
approached
by
representatives
of
the
North
Beach,
Community
Association
or
North
Beach
Association,
with
an
idea
on
part
of
that
segment
on
El
Camino
Real
from
Pico
to
roughly
El
Portal
past
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
up
there
when
weary
stripe
it?
H
Because
this
project
is
in
the
budget
that
your
council
would
consider
and
direct
us
to
look
in
more
detail
about
a
lane
reduction
in
going
from
four
lanes
to
two
with
the
center
turn
lane
and
provide
bike
lanes
and
then
keep
the
parking
lanes.
We
have
preliminary
looked
at
it
check
the
traffic
counts.
It
looks
like
it
works.
We
think
a
good
idea,
but
we
suggested
the
community
to
gauge
the
support.
H
You
know
reach
out
to
you
and
see
if
you
wanted
to
give
us
that
direction
and
it's
coming
up,
because
that
Street
is
planned
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and
really
to
Reese
type
it
in
a
different
configuration
as
an
insignificant
cost.
So
if
we're
going
to
do
something
and
it
works,
this
would
be
the
time
to
do
it.
H
I
H
Just
like
we
do
with
other
proposed
projects,
in
fact,
last
night
the
proposal
that
came
to
you
and
we
talked
about
Veracruz
and
the
lane
reduction.
We
would
go
through
the
process.
Go
to
Planning
Commission
seek
public
input,
get
a
recommendation,
so
you
would
see
it
before
it
goes
out
to
bid
we're
just
do
you
want
us
to
look
at
it
more
formally?
That's
all.
A
B
K
J
Make
and
there's
so
much
to
get
through
in
such
a
short
amount
of
time
like
five
days,
two
agendas
basically
and
this
so
I
can't
find
in
my
notes,
where
I
put
my
wrote
down
the
page
number
Mr
Bond
again,
but
I
wrote
on
here.
A
note
that
we
have
is
that
two
million
lesson
Street
or
pairs?
Does
that
ring
a
bell
to
you
and
if
so,
why?
No.
H
What
you're
referring
to
is
our
where
we
have
a
street
improvement
program,
but
probably
the
assessment
district
portion,
and
no
so
we
just
for
the
quick
background.
What
we're
talking
about
here
is
the
city
used
to
have
an
assessment
district
where
properties
would
get
charged
and
a
portion
that
would
fund
or
would
fund
our
street
program
combined
with
general
funds
that
expired
several
years
ago,
maybe
already
three
or
four
or
five
years
in
that
time
range,
and
at
that
time
we
looked
pretty
hard
at
at
doing
again
that
that
program
was
established
before
proposition
218.
H
It
was
a
20-year
program
and
basically,
the
the
long
story
short
is
that
we
couldn't
in
our
consultant.
We
couldn't
find
a
way
to
structure
a
defensible
program
that
met
the
special
benefit
tests
in
proposition
218,
and
we
could
not
find
any
other
city
that
would
have
successfully
done
that
one
City
try
and
they
failed
and
more
called
out
because
they
didn't
meet
that
test.
H
H
Fact
we
good,
we
would,
you
know,
offer
to
you
I
think
we're
in
really
good
shape.
It's
evidenced
by
our
pavement
condition
index
will
be
reporting
that
to
octa
shortly
and
so
overall
right
now,
except
for
some
problems,
streets
which
we
are
trying
to
tackle,
I'm,
pretty
confident
we're
in
good
shape.
Okay,.
I
While
you're
looking
at
low
ride,
I
got
the
page
you're
referring
to
with
the
streets.
No,
no
another
page,
you
referring
to
the
you
ask
Tom
about
so
yeah
page
130,
and
what
she's
referring
to
Tom
I
think
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
last
three
years
on
here,
we
did
have
a
spike
in
the
last
two
budget
years
of
a
million
dollars
which
was
represented,
30%
increase,
and
so
it
looks
like
we
are
seeing
a
reduction
of
roughly
a
million
dollars,
but
I
would
venture
to
say
that
increased.
I
H
Varies
according
to
when
we
have
a
big
project
and
then
some
years
we
have
a
little
bit
less
and
what
I
advised
councils
is.
It
will
go
up
and
down,
and
it's
okay
in
it
to
save
up
a
little
fund
balance,
especially
because
we
don't
have
that
assessment
district
that
we
essentially
piggy
bank
for
for
the
next
cycle.
Whereas
before
we
had
a
more
stable
revenue
stream,
we
would
kind
of
strive
and
do
a
certain
amount
of
pavement
repairs
and
to
keep
it
a
certain
level
of
reserve.
E
E
Alright,
so
some
of
the
budget
enhancements
that
were
incorporated
into
the
budget
this
year,
so
these
are
actually
already
in
the
budget,
and
these
are
outlined
a
little
bit
more.
On
page
43
I
forgot
the
page
number
on
this
one,
but
the
the
lettering
is
a
little
small,
but
you
can
see
the
general
fund
enhancements
that
we've
included,
or
on
this
page
we
have
ongoing
ones
such
as
the
enhanced
trash
janitorial
service
at
events,
sand,
pushing
and
sun
protection,
rash
guards
for
the
junior
lifeguards.
E
So
I'll
move
on
to
the
other
funds.
The
other
fund
enhancements,
we
have
things
coming
from
the
IT
strategic
plan
which
are
one-time
and
that's
the
e
DMS
system.
We
have
cameras
and
preventive
maintenance,
GIS
data
and
imagery,
and
then
we
have
other
one
x
and
again
you'll
see
on
the
right-hand
side
on
these
ones
the
funds
that
are
being
affected
by
these
ones.
We
have
balloting
and
marketing
for
the
clean
ocean,
feed
funding
to
replace
dump
trucks,
existing
transfer,
folding
machine
and
a
plotter
scanner
for
Public
Works.
J
A
J
E
All
right
so
we'll
go
ahead,
keep
those
in
the
budget
and
then
again,
staff
is
constantly
reviewing
things
to
bring
before
City
Council
want
the
City
Council
decision
item.
This
is
not
actually
incorporated
in
your
budget
and
it
was
the
yellow
page
that
you
were
giving
what
we
did
run
into.
Is
there
some
vacancies
in
the
Public
Works
area?
Again
the
decision
package
outlines
most
of
this.
E
It
would
be
adding
a
couple
of
positions
and
removing
a
couple
positions
and
the
net
effect
would
be
a
savings
about
sixty
thousand
and
an
FTE
change
of
about
0.5
FTE,
so
that
one
after
public
hearing
will
get
council's
direction
on
that.
Whether
we
should
incorporate
it
at
that
in
the
final
budget
that
we
bring
before
you.
E
So
with
that
any
other
questions
or
comments,
we
can
go
ahead,
address
them.
So
all
right
and
I
think
we
are
on
to
the
public
hearing
at
this
point
and
again,
resources
I'll
stick
this
up
there.
All
the
information
is
available
on
the
the
city
website
and
budget
adoption
would
be
June
4.
So
with
that
I'll
go
back
to
the
Pope,
it's
the
next
council
meeting.
So.
B
L
To
your
pleasure,
okay,
I'm
welcome
everybody.
I
hope
you
all
got
more
sleep
than
I
got
last
night.
I
want
to
start
with
I've
never
been
to
one
of
these
before
I
thought.
It
was
very
enlightening.
Staff
did
a
great
presentation,
but
to
me
it's
all
gobbledygook
there.
What
this
isn't,
how
anybody
else
would
budget.
You
know
what
you
do
is
set
priorities
and
you
work
from
there
down
and
see.
What's
left
I
want
to
tell
you
this
city
that
we
are
under
Sheriff.
Last
year
we
claimed
we
added
two
full-time
employees.
L
We
did
and
we
took
away
over
time
and
just
substituted.
The
sheriff's
need
a
lot
more
money.
We
talked
all
last
night
about
the
homeless
problem,
which
needs
more
sheriff.
We
have
crime.
160
homes
were
burglarized
last
month
on
an
annual
basis.
That's
8%
of
all
of
our
homes.
Is
that
really
the
city
we
want,
we
need
more
sheriff.
L
We
need
a
whiteboard
Sheriff's
increase
of
at
least
25%
I
hope
more
and
work
the
way
down
from
there,
and
if
we
have
to
cut
other
programs,
we
just
cut
six
point:
four
million
dollars
boom
in
general
funds.
For
general
funds,
six
point:
five
million
dollars:
nobody
cares,
it's
just
gone
I,
remember,
I
told
you
that
we
were
spending
six
million
more
per
year
than
we
had
now.
We
made
the
cut
this
year
to
balance
budget.
We
do
we
transferred
in
the
reserves,
so
you
can
look
at
the
two
items
there.
L
On
page
105
of
your
report,
you'll
see
where
all
cuts
came
from
staff.
We
increased
8%
this
year,
expenditures
but
sheriff's.
They
may
have
increased
whatever
three
four
percent.
We
need
more
Sheriff
and
you
need
to
find
a
way
to
do
that
and
you
need
to
cut
everything
else
necessary,
because
if
we
don't
safety,
our
kids
can't
walk
on
the
beach.
We
can't
walk
in
the
trails,
there's
needles
everywhere
this.
This
should
be
about
how
we
fund
the
sheriff's,
then
secondarily
Chris
in
the
fire
department.
L
L
What
I
looked
at
this
I
and
I
I
didn't
couldn't
see
that
slide
presentation,
but
as
far
as
I
can
tell
we
haven't
funded
for
the
300,000
special
election.
We
haven't
funded
for
the
three
million
dollars,
which
is
two
point.
One
plus
one
point
two
a
little
shorting
it
for
the
homeless
shelter,
so
we're
now
three
million
three
hundred
thousand
in
the
whole,
if
you
adopt
putting
up
a
temporary
homeless
shelter
next
year,
I
haven't
seen
that
accounted
for.
Where
is
that?
L
Coming
from
so
it
saddens
me
because
this
city
has
done
everything
they
can
not
to
increase
revenue
over
the
years
we've
stopped
businesses
from
coming
in
we've
not
created
a
hotel
zone
which
would
create
the
most
taxes
we
could
do.
I
suggested
it,
and
the
comments
back
to
me
is
we're
not
going
to
do
that
in
this
town.
Why
bring
in
hotels
is
a
great
way
to
raise
revenue?
It's
the
only
way,
I
know
the
two
operating
car
dealerships.
L
That's
not
going
to
happen,
so
you
know
we
need
to
look
at
the
revenue
side,
because
I
didn't
hear
one
word
about
how
we're
going
to
increase
revenue
going
down
the
line
and
if
you
guys
want
to
spend
money,
you
got
to
have
the
revenue
for
it's.
The
only
the
only
solution
is
to
increase
revenue
or
decrease
expenses,
so
I'm
asking
you
to
stop
right
now,
start
whiteboarding,
the
sheriff
and
the
fire
department.
Let's
see
what's
left
for
the
rest
of
staff.
Finally,
we
need
to
cut
from
the
city
manager's
department.
L
Five
years
ago
we
didn't
have
an
assistant
city
manager,
an
assistant,
we
never
legislative
analyst,
that's
about
500,000
or
600,000
dollars.
We
could
use
for
sheriff.
I
could
look
at
other
departments.
Do
the
same
thing?
Have
those
departments
too
suggested
where
we
can
make
cuts,
because
we're
needed
desperately
and
I'm,
not
against
staff?
I
just
think
sheriffs
are
more
important.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
I
I
can't
well
Brad
doesn't
have
his
cheering
audience
here
tonight,
unfortunately,
for
him,
I
have
to
correct
a
couple
statements
he
made.
The
first
one
is
that
he
said
that
we've
stopped
business
and
that
we've
stopped
hotels
in
the
city
of
San
Clemente
it.
Since
my
time
on
City
Council,
we've
built
an
outlet
mall
we've
converted
the
Kmart
Center
into
three
medium
box
stores.
We've
created
a
new
hotel,
it's
coming
to
town
on
top
of
create
a
new
hotel.
I
We've
gone
back
to
the
owner
of
the
hotel
and
asked
them
to
expand
their
rooftop
deck
operations
to
make
it
a
more
palatable,
more
joinable
experience
for
people.
We've
done
a
lot
in
this
city
to
increase
business.
Unfortunately,
the
revenue
stream
hasn't
continued
with
the
increase
in
business
that
we
and
that's
not
our
fault.
So
those
false
statements
are
just
that
false
statements
and
Brad
likes
come
up
here
and
make
false
statements.
Brad
correct
great.
C
C
C
C
D
C
C
I
think
I
found
money
in
the
budget,
and
that's
this
one
right
here
and
I'm
I'm
saying
this:
really
it's
a
joke:
cuz
I,
don't
want
to
be
serious
the
whole
time
all
the
bump
outs
that
we've
lived
through,
who
knew
you
could
use
a
sandwich
board,
is
a
bump
out.
I
mean
that
to
saved
us
millions
ball
bout
like
I,
now
come
in
you're
out
reality
where
we're
all
so
maybe
we
found
somebody
in
the
budget
for
that
and
that's
it.
D
C
I
So
the
bench
answer
this
is
something
we've
been
looking
at,
as,
as
a
City
staffs
been
looking
into
finding
a
suitable
material
that
will
work
on
the
back
of
the
benches
that
can't
be
damaged
it'll
last
longer.
So
that's
the
reason
having
replaced
it
with
similar
wood
structure,
that's
just
gonna
be
damaged
in
the
same
so
once
we
find
something,
that's
suitable
it'll
be
replaced
all
right
thanks.
Mr.
B
M
Good
afternoon
Council,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
respect
the
Orange,
County
Sheriff's
Department
a
lot,
but
it's
a
there's
such
a
long
response
time
now
in
our
neighborhood
up
to
an
hour
and
a
half.
When
you
call
them,
we
have
no
parking
enforcement
at
all.
In
my
neighborhood
except
street
sweeping
day
cars
parked
on
the
corners,
complete,
sidewalks
blocked
with
cars.
It's
coming
to
the
point
where
we
need
vigilante
action
to
deal
with
the
problems.
We've
actually
done
that
in
our
neighborhood
and
then
we
call
the
police
and
a
half
an
hour
later.
M
They
show
up
and
they
don't
do
anything.
They
talk
to
him
and
take
them
home.
Something's,
wrong.
I,
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
they're
not
doing
the
things
that
I
think
they
should
do.
I
know
the
laws
have
been
changed.
It's
only
a
misdemeanor
but
I
brought
a
picture
here
of
the
guy.
That's
been
causing
lots
of
problems
in
our
neighborhood.
We've
called
on
him
five
times
and
nothing's
happened.
Nothing
at
all.
They
take
him
home.
The
lady
across
the
street
called
on
him
twice
when
he
was.
M
He
was
imposing
on
a
neighborhood
house
and
they
said:
oh
he's,
just
mental.
Don't
worry
about
it!
This
guy's
that
cooked.
Let
me
tell
ya,
we
actually
got
him
on
the
ground
and
tie
wrapped
him
for
30
minutes.
Til
the
police
got
there
and
he
didn't
even
get
it.
Yet.
He
was
tied
up.
The
guy
was
so
screwed
up,
but
what's
going
on,
I
have
a
large
changes
aura.
Some
I
know
the
sheriff's
that
my
business
partners
in
Orange
County
Sheriff
they
don't
they
do
what
they
have
to
do.
M
Or
do
you
do
what
they're
told
something's
going
on
I?
Don't
know
what
it
is,
but
they're
not
doing
anything
in
my
neighborhood
I
live
in
Vario
Chico.
Do
you
know
where
that
is
it's
the
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
a
problem
in
San
Clemente?
We
just
had
a
stabbing
in
that
neighborhood
a
gang
stabbing
this
guy.
That
of
this
picture,
says
he's
a
member
of
the
body
of
Chico
gang
and
he
knows
everybody
here
and
he
runs
the
place.
So
they
can't
do
anything
to
him.
M
I
ain't
buying
that
I
mean
if
the
police
won't
do
anything
and
we're
gonna
take
care
of
it,
and
that's
that's
not
what's
supposed
to
be
like
and
Brad
talked
about,
the
third
25%
increase
in
the
Sheriff.
We
need
more
sheriffs.
If
you
have
the
sheriff's
they'll,
do
the
job
I
guarantee
you
they'll,
do
it,
but
we
don't
have
them.
We
need
enough.
You've
got
to
find
the
money
somewhere
wherever
that
may
be.
M
Let's
see
one
more
thing,
this
is
a
the
plum
I
got
from
the
ethics
class
that
we
used
to
take.
Are
we
still
taking
the
ethics
class?
Now
from
what
I've
been
seen
in
what
I've
watched
we
haven't
been
taking
it
I,
hope,
I,
hope,
everybody's
taking
these
ethics
classes,
all
the
the
committees
and
everyone
takes
this
I
took
it
every
year
for
20
years
and
I
learned
a
lot.
I
learned
what
the
Brown
Act
is
and
what
it
means
and
everything
else
from
these
classes.
M
So
I
hope
that
we
can
do
something
about
that
and
let's
raise
let's
get
some
more
sheriffs
in
and
also
find
out.
Why
they're
not
doing
anything
they're.
Just
we
had
a
lady
coming
out
in
the
middle
of
the
night
screaming
and
yelling
strip
naked
and
take
across
from
my
house
and
take
a
shower
in
the
middle
of
the
night
drift
naked,
yelling
and
screaming
the
police
came
and
took
him
awhile,
but
it
was
ten
o'clock
at
night.
They
talked
to
her
she's
from
out
in
the
desert
somewhere.
M
You
know,
and
all
I
said
was
just
don't
come
around
your
knee
or
go
somewhere
else
what's
wrong,
why
isn't
this
lady
being
arrested?
So
it
seems
like
the
same
problem
with
that
with
the
homeless,
people
and
I
know
they
got
lawsuits
to
deal
with
and
all
that,
and
maybe
they
can't
do
it,
but
we
need
more
sheriffs
right
away.
F
We
know
the
issue
with
misdemeanors
and
the
problem
of
enforcement,
so
the
city
is
has
hired
I.
Think
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
Matt
silver
is
an
attorney.
That's
been
prosecuting
the
misdemeanors,
so
what
I
would
like
James
is,
can
can
Matt
get
with
this
neighborhood
and
talk
to
them
and
because
I
was
told
of
this
issue
and
yesterday,
so
this
man
might
already
be
on
their
radar
that
some
of
these
issues
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are.
M
M
F
M
M
N
So
yes,
my
name
is
Derrick
Greer
I'm
on
the
DBA
Board
of
Directors
I'm,
the
vice
president
I'm
here
representing
the
DBA
and
the
downtown
business
association.
I
want
to
start
off
by
first
saying.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
for
your
continued
support
over
over
the
past.
It's
been
a
you
know,
bringing
a
little
positivity
to
the
to
the
group
here
today
that
it's
been
actually
a
really
really
positive
relationship
moving
forward,
and
we
only
want
to
make
that
better.
N
So
real,
quick,
we
already
kind
of
know
what
we
are,
but
we're
a
501
3,
C,
nonprofit
organization,
dedicated
to
the
town
town
area,
the
board
of
directors.
I
have
some
representatives
here
today
and
our
members
are
primarily
representing
the
t-zone
and
retail
services,
restaurant,
nonprofits,
etc.
I'm
moving
pretty
quick
because
this
clock
is
ticking
our
continued
partnership.
What
are
the
benefits?
So
there's
some
pictures
in
here,
I'm
gonna,
just
run
off
the
the
events
that
you
guys
already
know.
N
San
Clemente
annual
car
show
that's
coming
up
a
very
famous
event
for
San
Clemente
in
general,
as
the
city,
in
fact,
rarely
does
the
DBA
even
get
credit.
It
usually
comes
up
being
the
city
which
we're
fine
with
that.
We
want
that
Santa's
Village
by
the
sea,
which
is
also
called
the
glitz
another
event
that
we
are
responsible
for
putting
together
and
put
put
on
monthly
village,
Art
Fair.
That
happens
every
month.
That
is
our
organization
as
well
treat
street
and
shops
mall.
So
those
are
the
main
events
that
we
do.
N
We
also
do
quite
a
bit
of
other
things
for
the
for
the
city
and
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
these
briefly
so
increase
sales,
tax
revenue
for
the
city,
that's
the
bottom
line
and
that's
been
a
topic.
That's
brought
up
multiple
times
today.
Bringing
revenue
to
the
city
is
also
making
it
a
place
that
people
want
to
come
not
only
from
a
rep
for
residents,
but
also
attracting
other
people
from
the
state
and
the
country,
family-friendly
fun
and
community
engagement.
N
No
other
events
in
San,
Clemente
I
shouldn't
say
that,
but
there
are
some
other,
but
we
are
the
main
big
large
downtown
events
that
are
family-friendly.
Fun.
It's
good
marketing
for
the
city
provides
needed.
Exposure
for
small
downtown
businesses,
like
myself,
I,
run
a
business
in
the
downtown
T
zone.
Edward
Jones,
through
our
partnership,
we've
actually
been
ranked
in
the
past,
is
the
number
one
downtown
in
Southern
California.
So
while
there
are
concerns
in
the
downtown
area,
we
also
are
very
positive
in
that
position.
N
We
are
responsible
for
the
beautification
of
Del
Mar
weekly
plant
watering
and
maintenance
for
the
entire
street.
Those
pictures
were
actually
from
2018
and
we
have
actually
been
representing
the
downtown
to
and
working
with,
you
guys
directly
to
make
that
actually,
you
know
continue
to
be
part
of
our
plan
and
we
actually,
as
a
non-profit
we
put
out
set,
we
put
back
7,200
dollars
a
year
into
the
downtown
area
into
the
T
zone
into
del
Mar.
That's
not
City
funds
that
is
being
reimbursed.
That
is
money.
N
That's
coming
from
our
bit
nonprofit
business,
going
directly
back
to
the
city,
so
survey
results
are
in
very
positive
love,
the
the
the
crowd
we
draw,
both
all
this
really
directly
and
indirectly
thanks.
Our
partnership
has
positively
affected
our
city's
economic
business
development.
So
10
seconds
for
the
ask
our
ass
today
is
total
annual
city
partnership
funds.
Budget
request
of
$40,000
for
fiscal
year
2019
and
2014
is
needed
for
approval.
N
Dbas
budget
can
be
provided
and
will
be
provided
there
was
an
audit
mentioned
we'd,
be
happy
to
provide
the
budget
and
historical
finances
which
we
have
documentation
for.
So
that's
our
ass
there.
We
have
been
since
this
last
year
on
a
decrease
over
the
years
because
of
a
lack
of
communication
from
from
well
all
parties-
and
we
are
here
now
representing
as
the
board
to
be
more
engaged
and
work
with
you
guys
in
partnership
to
to
morass
here,
is
pull
banners
to
help
provide
promotion
for
city
events
and
trolley
brochures.
Thank
you
guys.
I
N
That
is
not
ours.
In
fact,
we
worked
with
tom
bond
again,
I
believe
mr.
bunting
it
and
we
tried
to
figure
out
whose
responsibilities
those
was
and
we
actually
couldn't
find
out,
but
it's
not
any
direct
responsibility
or
any
sponsibility
we've
had
in
the
past,
and
so
that
that
was
discussed
and
we're
not
sure,
what's
a
good
what
to
do,
but
we
can't
help
that,
if
need
be,
we.
G
The
record
is
unclear
about
who's
responsible
for
the
newsracks.
We
agree
that
they're
not
being
used
correctly
and
and
there's
damage.
So
I
asked
tom
a
few
weeks
ago
to
work
with
the
DBA
in
in
the
future.
To
determine
are
those
newsracks
even
needed?
Can
they
be
removed
and
have
that
conversation
if
the
DBA
still
wants
them
there
on
Delmar
or
if
they
can
come
out?
We've
also
talked
about
you
know,
and
we
don't
need
them
there
we
go,
and
so
maybe
we
can
remove
them.
We've
also
talked
about
the
benches.
G
G
G
N
N
G
N
So
that's
actually
a
perfect
example:
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
the
one
event
that
the
chamber
does
and
we
hold
a
monthly
event
plus
two
major
events
plus
shops,
two
other
ones
that
go
throughout
the
year
and
we're
getting
a
total
of
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
and
we're
giving
seventy
two
hundred
dollars
back
to
the
city
directly
in
maintenance.
For
for
the
pink
of.
F
G
Is
a
chance
that
the
the
chamber
will
not
have
the
Fiesta
this
year,
because
this
year
the
brewery
that
they've
had
in
the
past
has
decided
to
charge
them
for
the
beer
and
without
free
beer.
The
event
becomes
very
expensive
for
them
to
hold
and
they're
not
sure
if
they
want
to
hold
it
based
on
their
cost,
going
up
so
that
thirty
thousand
dollars
that
we
use
that
we
budget
for
the
Sheriff's
Department
might
become
available.
But
at
this
time
I
don't
know
that
it
has
become
available.
So.
F
James,
the
glitz.
We
also
pay
for
extensive
sheriff
overtime
for
that
I
believe
also,
and
that's
directly,
the
DBA
and
I
don't
know
what
the
cost
is
on
that.
But
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
Rex.
You
know
some
of
them
might
not
be
taken
care
of
and
I
don't
know
which
ones
those
are
but
I
know
racks
for,
like
the
San
Clemente
Journal.
Those
are
you
know
and,
and
those
that's
very
popular.
F
G
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
time
to
bring
it
up.
Babe
I've
mentioned
in
the
past
that
I
I
would
like
to
create
a
downtown
Business.
Improvement,
District
and
I
know
that
this
is
going
to
get
booed
and
his
so
bring
it
a
potential
way
to
fund
it
and
provide
more
amenities
in
the
downtown
is
through
parking
meters.
There.
F
F
F
B
A
G
E
I
Have
a
question
real,
quick
we're
del,
unfortunately,
with
the
passing
were
mayor's,
some
of
the
constitutional
or
the
information
that
was
gathered
by
him
with
you
and
it
previous
meetings
may
not
have
been
shared
and
I
heard
through
the
rumor
mill
that
potentially
your
group
offered
money
to
restriped
some
additional
courts.
That's.
B
P
Pickleball
is
the
fastest-growing
recreational
sport
in
the
country
or
3.2
million
people
are
playing
and
if
you
travel
around
to
different
places,
especially
vacation
spots,
Hill
ball
courts
are
springing
up
everywhere
and
that
we've
got
a
large
group
of
people
in
San
Clemente.
As
rondell
mentioned
he's
been
teaching
here,
and
a
lot
of
students
fill
up
his
class
I
just
finished
my
pickleball
class
at
Saddleback
College.
P
Today
we
see
the
importance
and
the
growth
of
it
as
a
college,
because
on
January
2
2020
we're
starting
a
brand-new
tennis
and
pickleball
complex
over
3.1
million
dollars
that
we're
putting
in
because
we
see
the
growth
and
how
that
could
increase
student
population
at
Saddleback,
College
and
so
I'm,
just
here
supporting
Redell
and
the
rest
of
the
people
here
and
hoping
that
we
can
get
some
more
finances
to
get
some
permanent
courts
here.
I
know
we'd
have
to
use
probably
some
of
the
current
tennis
courts
and
I
know.
P
K
Aren't
these
budget
meetings
interesting
all
those
numbers,
these
accounting
systems,
GAAP
cash,
smoke-and-mirrors
tax,
that's
all
fun,
I
love!
It
I
love
it
members
that
say,
council.
My
name
is
Vern
West
I'm
a
38
year
resident
city
of
San,
Clemente
and
I'm,
a
founder
of
silver
paddles
server.
Paddle
is
a
group
of
seniors
65
and
years
older
here
in
San
Clemente
and
their
manure
interested
in
a
promotion
and
enjoyment
of
yes
that
dreaded
word
pickleball.
This
is
what
a
senior
pickleball
player
wires.
K
So
you
can
see
that
we're
kind
of
loud,
noisy
and
we're
gonna,
be
here
at
the
meetings
from
now
on,
I
just
returned
from
been
organ
playing,
pickleball
town,
a
similar
size
to
San
Clemente.
They
advertise
they
have
twenty
eight
hundred
players
band
organ
doesn't
have
12
months
a
year
to
play
pickleball
it
snows
it
rains,
it
gets
cold
up
there.
This
thing
is
going
to
explode
here
in
San,
Clemente
and
I'm
concerned,
and
I
want
to
help
the
city
and
the
City
Council
and
their
budget
planning
to
provide
for
pickleball
as
it
grows.
K
It's
going
to
explode.
If
there's
a
recent
article
than
the
captions
ours,
Personal
Finance
magazine
where
they're
talking
about
the
explosion
of
pickleball
with
seniors
your
parents,
I
want
to
get
your
parents
out
there
with
me
in
this
group,
you
guys
to
vote
not
wanting
to
play
with
you:
hey,
listen,
I'm,
81
years
old
out
there
playing
and
I
play
with
people
older
than
that.
K
San
Gorgonio
is
a
perfect
place
to
provide
the
additional
play
and
I
was
there.
Today
we
had
people
waiting
to
play
because
we
only
have
four
the
forecourt
she
can
get
for
pickleball
courts
on
one
tennis
ball
court.
The
other
thing
is
I
would
like
to
recommend
the
city
offer
classes
for
seniors,
65
and
older.
It's
a
different
game.
If
I
played
you
or
I
played
your
grandparents,
so
we
need
a
little
help
on
that
area.
K
I
had
a
meeting
with
Samantha
Wiley
the
last
week
and
I
suggested
that
she
set
up
a
steering
committee
made
of
made
up
of
pickle
balls
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
provide
my
time
and
experience
in
that
and
we'll
select
people
to
advise
Parks
and
Rec
on
pickleball
Samantha.
Who
is
a
manager
of
the
department,
her
assistant?
They
don't
even
know
what
pickleball
is.
They
have
never
played
it,
so
we
want
to
give
them
some
insight
on
what
this
thing
is.
K
P
Well,
who
knew
pickleball
was
all
the
rage
anyways
tonight
I'm
here
to
talk
about
and
advocate
for
the
hiring
of
additional
Sheriff
Deputies.
Last
night,
the
City
Council
took
a
big
step
in
the
right
direction
by
voting
for
zero
to
set
up
a
temporary
shelter
on
the
city
yard
site
of
Pico.
Thank
you
for
taking
this
step,
but
this
is
only
the
first
step
and
must
be
followed
immediately
by
hiring
additional
Sheriff
Deputies.
So
we
can
truly
get
a
handle
on
this
dangerous
situation.
P
To
accomplish
this,
the
council
needs
to
make
public
safety
the
number
one
priority
for
the
budget
non-essential
budget
budget
items
and
programs
will
need
to
be
reduced,
delayed
or
cancelled
to
fund
the
additional
deputies.
We
need
our
deputies
to
have
greater
visibility
and
more
presence
in
our
city.
After
all,
the
number
one
bullet
point
and
the
council's
mission
statement
is
maintaining
a
safe,
healthy
atmosphere
in
which
to
live,
work
and
play
well,
I'm,
pretty
sure
a
lot
of
residents
don't
feel
the
atmosphere
is
either
safe
or
healthy.
P
P
That
will
send
a
message
that
we
are
in
control
and
get
visitors
to
North,
Beach
peace
of
mind
years
of
misplaced,
compassion,
underfunding
of
police
services
in
virtue
signaling,
have
all
contributed
to
the
dangerous
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
today,
it's
time
for
the
City
Council
to
take
action
and
hire
the
additional
Sheriff
Deputies.
We
so
desperately
need
for
Public
Safety.
Thank
you.
P
Q
Speaking
to
is
right
there
on
the
end
of
the
pier.
So
that's
a
very
cool
innovation.
Thank
you
anyway.
My
name
is
Lori
Don,
Chuck
and
I'm
here
as
a
board
member
for
Pier
pride
Foundation
also
with
me,
are
two
other
board
members,
Mickey
Rothman
and
Jim
Neilson
in
the
audience
and
do
I
just
what
I
do
this
okay
well
go
fast?
Okay,
who
are
we
I'm?
You
know,
but
the
audience
may
not
know.
Q
We
were
founded
three
years
ago
and
our
mission
is
to
fill
gaps
between
the
city's
budget
and
what
isn't,
what
is
necessary
to
preserve
the
unique
experience
of
the
San
Clemente
pier
and
the
need
is
great
if
there
was
a
severe
loss
and
a
revenue
stream
when
the
redevelopment
funds
were
discontinued
in
2012.
So
that's
why
we're
here
we're
nonprofit
and
we're
100%
volunteer.
Everything
we
do
is
volunteer
hours
from
San
Clemente
residents.
Just
to
let
you
know
we're
really
proud
of
our
track
record.
Q
We
focus
on
capital
projects
as
opposed
to
program
and
a
20-17.
We
had
the
pier
sanded
primed
and
painted
with
marine
quality
paint
and
raised
the
funds
for
that
this
year.
We
just
unveiled
the
educational
signs
over
the
weekend
and
thank
you
to
those
council
members
that
attended
I've
gotten
so
many
emails
about
what
a
facelift
that
is
for
the
pier,
so
we're
very
proud
about
that
and
pending
approval,
we've
got
fishing
line,
recycling
canisters
that
will
put
us
in
compliance
with
other
peers
across
the
state
coming
forward
for
your
consideration,
I
think
next
month.
Q
So
we're
here
to
talk
about
2019
and
it's
in
your
CIP
package.
We
want
to
help
you
refresh
the
pier
bathrooms
and
it
was
in
that
2.1
million.
That
Vonnegut
was
mr.
bonding.
It
was
talking
about
it's
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
projects
you'll
be
contemplating,
and
let's
see
what
we'd
like
to
offer
is
$50,000
toward
that
initiative.
Q
So
we
commit
to
race,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
pure
pride,
right
yeah,
so
our
goal
would
be
to
raise
funds
for
aspects
of
the
restrooms
that
might
improve
the
experience
you
guys
are
in
the
business
of
safety,
and
you
know
public
accessibility.
We
want
to
just
up
the
game
a
little
bit
and
so
I
know
you
can't
give
approval
but
we'd,
like
your
consideration
and
a
few
things,
and
this
first
image
is
the
starting
point.
That's
the
mainland
facing
facade
of
the
restroom
and
our
first
proposal.
Q
We've
met
with
Randy
little
and
Tom
Vonnegut
is
to
somehow
move
all
of
that
off
of
the
side
of
the
bathroom
and
make
it
a
branding
opportunity.
Okay,
we
just
put
the
SC
logo
up
there,
because
it's
on
the
trolley,
but
you
could
do
whatever
you
wanted
with
it,
but
wouldn't
that
be
cool
all
right.
A
lot
of
the
credit
for
these
ideas
comes
from
Redmond
Schwartz,
Marc's
design.
They
did
a
visioning
product
project
for
the
pier,
so
what
their
vision
is
refresh.
Q
The
painting
move
that
conduit
paint
the
trim
of
the
restroom
to
match
the
railing,
instead
of
it
just
being
black.
Consider
that
storage
door
in
the
middle
for
public
art
consider
lights
that
match
the
pier
lights
very
important,
reinsert
the
drinking
fountain
on
the
front
facade
that
was
somehow
taken
off
over
the
years.
Oh
okay,
this
is
$50,000
to
give
me
30
seconds
more
okay,.
Q
Okay,
we
want
to
do
a
public
art
initiative
on
that
storage
door
and
pending
your
approval,
we'd
partner
with
the
San
Clemente
Art
Association
or
somebody-
and
we
want
to
have
you-
take
a
look
at
the
interiors.
This
is
one
of
the
restaurant.
The
drinking
fountain
ideas
we're
interested
in
it
would
have
one
of
those
bottle
bottle
refill
stations,
okay,
and
so
our
proposal,
which
we
have
in
paper
here
is.
We
will.
Q
Commit
to
giving
you
a
check
for
$50,000,
January
2020,
assuming
that
that
CIP
gets
approved
in
June
and
we'd,
like
a
portion
of
that
which
Randy
little
estimates
at
ten
thousand
for
a
facade
mounted
drinking
fountain
with
a
bottle
refill
feature
and
we'd
like
permission
to
explore
public
art
as
an
element
of
the
CIP
package,
and
not
up
here
is
we'd
like
a
portion
of
that
money
to
go
toward
the
skylights
which
are
in
the
restrooms
would
and
put
pigeon
deterrents
on
there.
So
that's
it.
Q
So
next
steps
would
be
say
yes
to
our
money
and
then
approve
that
CIP
project
and
then
give
us
guidance
so
that
we
don't
step
on
anybody's
toes
in
the
process
and
then
for
you
to
chew
on.
We
would
also
raise
money
for
you
to
replace
the
shower
tower
at
the
base
of
the
pier,
which
is
in
desperate
need
and
also
pier
security
cameras.
You
just
let
us
know
that
that's
your
desire
and
we'll
get
it
done
for
you.
Thank.
A
Q
Before
they
were
part,
the
BBA
initiated
them
and
they
were
in
response
to
the
fact
that
you
know
that
little
wire,
one
that
was
in
the
visual
the
woman
had
those
were
all
over
the
Delmar
and
so
the
DBA,
and
it
was
part
of
Michael
cope,
thought.
Let's
have
one
centralized
place
for
media
to
live,
and
then
what's
happened
is
those
little
basket.
Things
have
sprouted
back
up
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
vandalism
and
also
the
use
of
paper
media's
declined.
That's
what
I
know.
I
R
Getting
there
good
afternoon,
Council
I
am
I'm
Marty,
Weinberg
and
I'm
here
to
discuss
pickleball
as
well
from
the
local
pickleball
community.
We
are
asking
for
your
support
and
to
include
in
the
new
budget
funds
to
promote
pickleball
and
to
grow
the
sport
in
San
Clemente.
We
realized
that
we're
currently
in
a
pilot
program
right
now
and
I'm,
not
sure,
if
anyone's
capturing
data
on
our
temporary
over
crowded
courts
but
know
that
pickleball
is
the
fastest
growing
sport
in
the
United
States
right
now,
it's
growing
at
12%
a
year.
R
That's
350,000
new
players
every
year
and
as
far
as
San
Clemente
pickleball
we're
growing
as
well.
Every
time
I
go
out
on
the
courts,
there's
new
players,
they're
learning
to
play
and
they're
part
of
our
group
I
started
pickleball
about
two
and
a
half.
Years
ago,
I
was
in
the
first
pickleball
class
that
was
offered
by
the
city
of
San
Clemente.
R
There
was
four
of
us
all
retired
and
since
that
class
we've
evolved
from
four
to
well
over
150
people
that
are
playing
in
San
Clemente,
and
it's
not
just
retirees
and
it's
not
just
not
seniors-
we're
getting
a
lot
of
young
adults
now
and
we're
getting
high
school
students
and
all
those
soccer
moms
stay-at-home
moms,
and
they
don't
wanna.
They
don't
want
to
stay
at
home
anymore.
R
They
want
to
play
pickleball,
but
they
want
to
be
able
to
play
seven
days
a
week,
not
the
current
five
that
we
have
and
they
want
to
play
on
permanent
court.
So
I
feel
that
San
Clemente
has
the
opportunity
now
to
provide
permanent,
pickleball
courts
that
we
could
play
on
seven
days
a
week
and
we
can
play
on
dedicated
courts
in
San
Clemente.
So
here
we
are,
you
know
just
think
about
it.
We
have
priority.
R
And
we're
always
thinking,
can
we
play
pickleball
today
or
do
we
have
to
travel
out
of
town
to
play
pickleball,
and
then
we
have
to
worry
about
the
tennis
players
and
we
don't
want
to
worry
about
tennis
players
and
I'm
sure
they
don't
want
to
worry
about
us
as
well.
So
the
remedy
is
more
pickleball
courts
more
days
to
play.
I
appreciate
you
allowing
me
to
speak
and
I
hope
you
consider
funding
for
pickleball
courts
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
Frank.
I
Yeah
before
I
get
in
the
comments
and
questions
here,
I
just
want
to
commend
everybody
who
came
out
this
evening
to
participate
in
the
this
public
hearing
in
this
process.
I
think
this
is
the
most
closer
closer.
There
was
a
public
hearing.
Thank
you.
This
I
think
this
is
the
most
well
attended
budget
hearing
I've
had
in
my
seven
years
on
council.
So
thank
you,
everybody
who
came
in
support
of
the
various
issues
here
this
evening.
I
This
is
the
first
time
I've
had
two
speakers
come
up
and
support
our
endeavor
for
more
police
officers,
which
was
absolutely
amazing,
I've
been
looking
for
that
for
the
last
seven
years
as
well.
So
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
with
that
said.
Adam
I've
got
a
question
for
you.
One
of
the
concerns
that
somebody
had
about
the
downtown
was
the
blight
jacent
to
the
benches
and
on
the
sidewalks
adjacent
to
the
trolley
stops
2017.
With
support
of
law,
read
on
check,
we
added
a
no
littering
policy
to
the
businesses
that
were
responsible
for
I.
I
Think
it's
a
500-foot
radius
does
that
include
that
disgusting,
dark,
sticky,
goo
that
comes
out
of
the
businesses
that
have
ice
cream
or
some
sort
of
gelatin,
or
is
it
only
specific
to
the
actual
trash
that
they
have
in
their
area
and
I
know
I'm
putting
on
the
spot
so
I'm
not
expecting
you
have
an
answer.
No.
H
N
A
F
I
I
I
B
If
the
proper,
this
is
the
budget
means,
the
proper
thing
is
to
have
Adam
go.
Take
a
look
at
that:
just
open
up
code
enforcement
files-
if
there's
yeah,
hasn't
an
ability
to
do
that
and
then
bring
that
back
to
us.
I
mean
I'm
totally
fine
with
that
it
has
a
code
there
and
somebody's
violating
it
then.
F
I
Next,
my
next
couple
issues-
these
are
more
budget
related,
the
newsracks.
If,
if
staff
and
the
DBA
can
get
together,
determine
what
we're
gonna
do
with
those
things
I,
you
know
I
think
I
having
an
echo
a
Laurie
sentiment
of
print
media's,
going
away
the
dodo
birds,
so
I
think
it's
time
to
get
rid
of
those
things
and
then
enforce
the
wire
racks.
Leaving
I
noticed
the
one
picture
of
wire
racks
was
shown
on
private
property
and
that's
something
that's
entirely
acceptable
and
some.
B
I
Would
I
would
venture
to
say
that
the
one
TVA
member
that's
no
longer
a
member
would
want
one
of
them
in
his
business
because
they
do
have
some
historic
value.
The
next
one
is
the
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
DBA
for
coming
to
the
meeting
this
year.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation,
thanks
for
taking
the
time
I'm
sure
that
you
guys
are
gonna
be
sending
us
your
annual
budget,
as
you
did
in
years
past
I
look
forward
to
seeing
it
I'm
gonna
be
supportive
of
an
increase.
I
I,
don't
know
if
$40,000
is
appropriate.
If
what
James
says
comes
to
fruition,
we
do
have
additional
funding.
Maybe
we
can
look
at
a
mid-year
adjustment,
but
I
was
thinking
more
along
the
lines
of
of
two
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
council
contingency.
So
that
brings
us
down
to
50
and
that's
raises
them
up
to
$34,000.
I
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
DBA
and
say
that
the
put
on
the
glitz
is
a
combined
event
that
is
hosted
by
not
only
the
DBA
but
also
the
city,
so
any
fees
we
incur
with
that
as
something
we
would
already
encourage.
So
they've
been
a
fantastic
partner
over
the
last
three
years.
I
want
to
continue
to
support
them.
The
last
ask
which
is
was
buried
into
the
report
that
he
didn't
get
to
get
to
was
the
poll
sign
issue.
I
Yeah
so
essentially
the
chamber
is
running
the
show
on
those
and
they
do
a
fantastic
job
by
the
way,
let's
give
a
shout
out
to
them
as
well
with
the
live
and
love
San
Clemente
campaign
they
have
so
I'm
not
proposing
to
take
any
of
those
down.
There's
some
vacant
spaces
that
we
discussed
in
the
past
when
I
was
the
DBA
representative.
B
D
I
Not
done
yet
Eric,
oh,
you
got
a
gun
jump
again
yeah.
My
last
item
is
I.
Don't
think
it
needs
a
motion.
What
Joann
might
think
differently
is
I
was
gonna
direct
staff
to
continue
the
talks
to
the
mayor,
initiated
with
the
pickleball
Group,
and
let
staff
know
that
I'm
supportive-
and
hopefully
we
have
counsel
support
that
if
the
pickleball
group
does
come
up
with
a
funding
source
to
add
the
stripes
for
the
pickleball
court
at
their
San
Gorgonio
Laconia
location,
I'm,
supportive
of
that.
I
F
I
Days
stays
the
same
I'm
not
asking
to
get
crazy,
I'm
just
saying
that
the
talks
that
Steve
initiated
on
adding
the
pickleball
courts
that
he
was
supportive
of
and
it
adding
pretty
well
courts,
is
a
misnomer
because
it's
just
it's
double
striping.
So
you
have
the
ability
to
play
tennis
on
tennis
days
any
of
the
billion
play
pickleball
in
pickleball
days.
We're
not
changing
the
policy,
we're
not
doing
anything.
I
F
I
F
I
D
If
I
mean
Mayor
Pro
Tim
in
your
proposed
budget,
you
have
you've
basically
once
approved
next
week
or
the
first
week
in
June.
We
have
site-specific
plans
that
are
as
part
that
are
part
of
the
budget
and
we're
doing
site
specific
plans
for
Sanji
and
soon
San,
Luis
Rey
and,
as
I
indicated,
to
the
pickleball
community,
when
myself
and
Mayor
Schwartz
met
with
them
and
Miss
Jorgensen.
D
That
would
be
something
that
we'd
be
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
totality
of
those
sites,
in
terms
of
like,
for
instance,
at
San,
Luis
Rey,
converting
the
lawn
bowling
into
a
permanent
pickleball
facility,
or
looking
at
Sanji
to
do
something
more
permanent,
as
well
as
other
amenities
in
line
with
the
park
master
plan.
So
that
will
be
something
that
the
council
and
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
deliberate
on
when
we
take
on
those
site-specific
plans.
A
Good
afternoon
Council,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
an
extended
period
for
public
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
council,
as
some
of
you
are
new
in
the
last
fiscal
year,
the
city
I'm
an
attempt
to
save
some
money,
cut
the
sidewalk
cleaning
budget
from
the
t-zone,
and
so
for
over
a
year's
period.
The
sidewalks
were
not
cleaned,
so
the
photos
that
our
friend
and
neighbor
did
show
earlier
were
true,
but
those
were
taken.
A
Last
year,
the
DBA
came
along
with
other
residents
to
lobby
and
talked
to
the
council
about
the
concern
of
our
dirty
sidewalks,
and
you
came
up
with
the
money,
the
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
to
clean
the
sidewalk,
so
it
has
begun.
You
did
it
I
think,
once
right
after
the
new
expense
was
approved
and
then
I
believe
you
have
it
coming
up
again.
A
Usually
you
do
it
right
before
the
summer
season,
so
I
think
that's
starting
again,
so
I
just
wanted
to
I,
don't
know
remind
folks
of
why
it
got
so
dirty
and
that
there
were
steps
taken
to
make
it
clean
again.
One
other
just
additional
thing
is
that,
with
the
increase
that
we've
seen
in
vagrants
and
folks
sleeping
in
the
bulb
out
on
the
benches,
we
have
seen
an
increased
mess
with
some
bodily
fluids,
vomit
and
other
discussing
things
like
that.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
then
just
one
other
little
thing
is
that
there
are
really
strict
rules
about
cleaning
it
and
that
you
can't
wash
the
water
down
the
storm
drains.
So
it's
quite
a
costly
expense
to
do
it
properly
and
to
contain
that
water
and
not
have
it
washed
down
the
drain.
So
it's
really
difficult
for
individual
business
owners
to
clean
that
and
meet
the
requirements
and
not
have
people.
You
know
complain
because
the
waters
going
down
the
storm
drains.
F
F
Don't
want
the
public
to
think
that
we
are
not
cleaning
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
an
entire
year
that
we
weren't
we
didn't
steam
clean.
But
one
of
the
issues
that
happened
last
year
is
we
cut
quite
a
lot
of
services
to
add
to
new,
sheriff's
and
and
unfortunately,
the
the
sidewalk
steam
cleaning
was
in
that
we
fully
intended
to
put
that
back.
But
in
the
meantime
we
didn't
realize
it
was
coming
up
so
soon
the
Fiesta
head
and
the
offense.
F
F
Fully
intended
to
do
it,
but
with
the
budget
and
the
Fiesta
hitting
it
just
it
happened
and
we
and
we
had
problems
with
getting
a
vendor
to
do
it.
So
that's
that's
what's
happening,
but
DBA
needs
to
if
they
see
something
like
that,
they
need
to
you
know,
you're
our
eyes
and
ears.
If
you
see
something
or
a
shop,
learn
to
see
something
call
our
maintenance
department-
and
let
us
know
that,
there's
an
issue
absolutely
we'd,
be.
F
F
G
B
O
G
B
Was
I
understood?
Yes,
I
understood
it
was
hey.
These
are
thoughts
we
had.
This
is
what
the
designer
architect
is
suggesting.
If
you
guys
want
to
do
a
different
art
theme
logo
on
the
front,
we
could
do
that.
So
I
think
the
answer
is
emphatically.
Yes,
we
want
their
money
and,
yes,
we
will
do
at
least
my
direction
would
be.
Yes,
we
want
the
water,
fountains
and.
G
I
B
D
So
three
things
that
we
need
to
cover,
so
we
have
a
decision
package
that
was
presented
earlier
with
regards
to
the
yellow
sheet
with
regards
to
the
Public
Works
reorganization
of
a
Deputy
Director.
So
if
we
could
get
direction
from
Council
on
that,
if
they
approve
it
or
not,
approve
it
and
then
the
other
item
is
the
direction
as
it
relates
to
the
arterial
Street
maintenance
project
from
the
North
Beach
Association.
Then
the
third
one
that
councilmember
Han
brought
up.
That
I
just
want
clarification.
D
B
D
I'll
answer
the
first
part
well
to
both
of
them.
Last
night,
when
you
approved
the
special
election,
you
also
approved
an
appropriation
to
fund
the
special
election
in
the
current
fiscal
year
that
will
be
carried
over
into
the
new
fiscal
year
as
part
of
our
carryover
process.
So
we
can
check
that
box
off.
In
terms
of
addressing
that.
With
regards
to
the
homeless
shelter,
we
haven't
been
receipt,
given
any
direction
to
appropriate
any
money.
So
there
are
no
monies
currently
funded
or
proposed
to
be
funded
in
the
fiscal
year
budget.
D
Before
you,
however,
mercy
house
funding
is
still
in
there
as
it
is
with
there
pursuant
to
their
contract,
and
so
we
have
that
for
the
mobile
outreach
services
and
then
obviously
the
the
funding
that
we're
incurring
for
the
camping
ordinance
project
that
we
approved
that
the
council
approved
last
night,
that
is,
in
the
current
budget
year,
to
fund
those
items
that
were
under
city
manager.
Authority.
B
So
final
thing
is:
we
haven't,
discussed
and
I
think
everybody's,
avoiding
the
public
safety
police
services
contract
and
what
we
want
to
do.
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
we're
not
cutting
any
of
the
services
and
I
think
those
two
positions
ever
add.
Elastro
now
been
filled,
I'm
wondering
what
the
appetite
is
on
the
council
to
add
a
crime
prevention,
specialist
person
when
I
went
out
to
Toledo
I
heard
that
repeatedly
that
that's
what
people
wanted
to
used
to
do
the
neighborhood
watch
program,
and
so
we
didn't
have
that
person.
B
B
G
We
currently
have
a
part-time
crime
prevention
specialist
in
the
budget
20
hours
a
week.
We
did
that,
based
on
the
request
of
the
last
one
she
left
on
maternity
leave
and
didn't
return
and
we've
had
difficulty
replacing
with
the
part-time.
So
by
going
to
a
full-time
I,
think
we're
confident
that
we
could
probably
add
that
person
and
I
think
the
cost
is
extra
Eric
for
a
I
want.
D
To
say
off
the
top
of
my
head:
it's
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
fully
loaded
for
a
full-time
crime
prevention,
specialist
into
James's
point.
We
already
have
25
thousand
dollars
currently
budgeted
for
the
part-time
position,
so
at
worst
case
scenario,
would
be
an
additional
75
thousand
dollars
to
fund
a
full-time
position.
75.
G
I
D
B
The
full-time
crime
prevention
specialist
is
about
a
hundred
and
two
thousand
dollars
net
of
losing
the
tube
of
taking
out
the
twenty
five.
It's
about
seventy
five.
Seventy
seven
thousand
the
way
our
contract
model
works,
all
the
position,
costs
and
overheads,
and
things
are
all
built
into
that
those
position
cost.
So
that's
that's
why
the
total
price
of
that
position
seems
high
its
its
benefits
and
I'll
be
overhead
that
goes
into
to
the
sheriff's
proper
contract
and.
B
O
How
that
person
would
help
out
in
that
position
we
like
to
see
the
neighborhood
watch
means
to
me
multiple
times
a
year
and
how
that
person
that
person
takes
notes
organizes
the
neighborhood
watch
program.
Has
the
community
communicate
with
each
other
and
provides
leadership
in
that
currently
right
now,
the
community
is
doing
it
on
their
own
and
utilizing
social
media,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
the
Sheriff's
Department
that
in
that
position,
specifically
provides
that
leadership
role
and
that's
what
the
community
was
asking
for
it
because
they're
just
kind
of
winging
it
I.
F
Think
that
this
person
needs
to
be
really
good
whoever
weekend,
if
we're
gonna,
expend
this
money
to
increase
the
program
and
bring
some
of
the
people
back,
you
know
that
you
know
the
neighborhood
watches
that
aren't
active
anymore,
because
with
a
be
109
and
Prop
47,
we
need
to
go
into
prevention
and
safety
where
we
prevent
ourselves
from
being
a
target
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
really
increase.
So
I'm
I'm,
excited
and
I
would
be
supportive
of
doing
that.
F
G
Think
I
think
one
way
that
we
use
the
crime
prevention
specialists
in
the
past
was
data
collection
and,
and
that
person
helped
out
in
in
crime
mapping
in
the
past,
so
that
that
information
could
be
passed
off
to
to
the
chief
and
to
the
deputies
and
then
they
knew
where
the
hotspots
were
in
town
and
could
better
address
them
when
they
were
out
in
their
in
their
in
the
field.
So
to
speak,
that's
my
first.
Yes,.
J
And
it's
important
to
note
that
for
years
I
know
I
started
working
at
this
city.
In
1999
we
had
a
fully
staffed
crime
prevention
office.
We
had
three
full-time
crime
prevention
officers
and
a
population
of
about
22,000,
less
people.
They
did
so
much
and
it's
not
much
to
ask
for
one,
but
we
there
were
different
components
of
what
they
did:
a
newsletter
for
Neighborhood
Watch
training
of
Neighborhood
Watch
block
captain's.
They
went
out
to
help
with
safety
and
security
at
various
homes,
helping
them.
J
You
know
secure
their
homes,
which
is
a
lot
of
education
and
outreach.
Then
we
had
the
home
the
schools
also
for
the
character
counts
program,
and
then
we
had.
You
know
the
statistics
that
they
did.
The
regional
crime
prevention
officer.
So
really
educating
the
people
on
preventative
crime
is
really
important
and
it
was
great,
so
I
think
that
having
one
crime
prevention
officer
full-time
could
be
a
great
asset
not
only
to
the
people
but
to
the
department
as
well.
Oh.
B
So,
as
we
told
you,
the
interview
you'd
be
jumping
out
of
the
fire
pan
or
frying
pan
into
the
fire,
and
that's
been
absolutely
true.
So
is
that
in
just
a
recap,
was
I
miss
staying
and
all
that
that,
with
the
current
levels
and
staffing
with
a
crime
prevention,
specialist
we'd
be
good
as
much
as
I
want
to
give
you
10
deputy's
right
now,
I
just
don't
know
in
this
budget
cycle.
We
can
do
that.
I.
F
B
F
B
B
B
I
A
I
Okay
and
then
the
last
part
was
just
I,
knew
you
guys
are
talking
about
adding
a
full-time
crime
prevention,
specialist
I'm,
not
sure
where
you
guys
were
planning
on
getting
funding
from,
but
I
don't
know
if
these
pages
remember
and
the
green
sheets
were
or
we
were
contemplating
adding
a
new.
What
is
this
a
new
locker
room
in
the
police
substation?
I
F
D
I
To
year
the
crime
prevention,
specialist
position
and
we've
had
some
is
Laura
pointed
out.
They
have
lasted
more
than
one
year,
but
your
year
it
seems
like
we
get
a
new
individual
in
there
and
someone
transfers
out
so
I'm
comfortable
with
it.
In
this
scenario,
damn
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
book.
There's
no
real,
hey.
I
F
I
I
F
I
I
B
G
I
I
just
received
an
email
from
captain
pocket,
and
you
know
earlier
this
this
year
we
appropriated
some
money
to
do
some
improvements
in
the
in
the
substation
paint
and
flooring.
Yesterday
is,
as
we
were,
doing,
the
flooring
project
as
directed
some
floor.
Tiles
were
removed,
they
came
up
with
the
carpet
and
everything.
G
There
was
some
concerns
about
asbestos
exposure.
Today
the
county
came
out
and
inspected
it.
We
also
had
our
Public
Works
had
someone
come
out
and
we're
waiting
the
test
results
and
I
received
an
email
a
little
bit
ago
from
captain
Puckett
saying
that
they
are
going
to
relocate
their
operations
to
the
city
of
Aliso
Viejo
until
we
get
a
better
idea
of
what's
going
on
with
the
asbestos
and
how
it
can
be
remediated
from
downstairs.
G
You
know,
asbestos
is
in
buildings
of
this
age
are
common
and
you
know
unavoidable
sometimes,
and
you
know
we
have
to
as
we
do
projects
like
this.
Sometimes
these
sorts
of
things
happen,
so
we
need
to
get
a
handle
of
it,
and
the
county
and
city
staff
need
to
work
together
to
to
see
what
the
extent
of
the
potential
exposure
was.
So
we'll
support
the
Sheriff's
Department
as
they
relocate
in
the
near
future
to
Aliso
Viejo
and
we'll
see
how
we
can
get
a
handle
on
the
on
the
substation
cleanup.
G
D
Calculus,
if
I
can
echo
the
city
manager,
what
you
could
do
is
you
could
give
direction
to
include
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
at
one
time,
and
if
there
are
mitigation
fees
to
address
the
potential,
as
James
indicated,
we
have
our
own
consultants
doing
the
testing.
If,
in
fact
it's
true,
then
we
could
use
that
money
to
mitigate
the
effort.
If
it's
not
true,
then
we
could
get
the
lockers
if
they
were
to
return
to
the
substation.
Just
throwing
out
solutions.
D
B
I
mean
I
would
be
that'd,
be
fine
with
me,
because
if
we're
gonna
have
to
do
something
to
mitigate
or
test
or
whatever
the
money
is
gonna
need
to
be
there
I
guess
the
lockers
if
they
do
go
back
there,
that
is
a
safety
issue
from
what
I've
been
told.
If
we
have
to
pull
some
of
the
other
capital
improvement
work
to
cover
this,
then
I'd
be
more
comfortable
with
that,
as
opposed
to
the
lockers,
because
that.
G
Are
the
full-time
crime
prevention
specialists,
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
recommend
that
we
keep
the
the
lockers
in
the
budget
and
then
over
the
next
two
weeks,
as
we
finalize
the
budget
before
it
comes
back
for
approval,
we'll
come
back
with
a
couple
potential
solutions
for
funding
that
position.
So
I,
don't
think
it's
something
that
we
can
figure
out
right
now,
but
I
think
Jake
and
Eric
and
I
can
go
back
and
and
figure
out
some
things
that.
B
F
J
I'm
not
convinced
they're
gonna
pursue
that.
Well,
we're
not
adopting
a
budget
tonight.
That's
June
4th
I
have
a
couple
a
couple
more
concerns.
Maybe
mr.
ron,
if
you
could
come
up
I
had
just
I,
took
some
notes
when
I
was
reviewing
the
budget
and
typed
up
some
notes.
You
had
touched
on
the
accrued
liability
payment
for
retirement,
yes,
moved,
okay,
so,
okay,
the
accrued
liability
for
retired
sank
many
police,
not
Orange,
County
Sheriff's
Department,
so
that
has
been
transferred
from
the
general
government
budget
and
to
police
services.
J
E
Again,
it's
just
recognizing
it
as
I'll
call
it.
Public
safety
related
cost
we're
just
changing
where
it's
budgeted
yo
much
like
other
cities
who
have
ongoing
operations,
they'd
be
paying
for
their
costs
through
the
public
safety
programs
that
they
have
so,
for
example,
let's
say
city
of
Irvine
or
city
of
Tustin,
they
would
have
unfunded
liability
and
that
cost
would
be
allocated
to
their
police
programs.
So
we're
just
recognizing
that
that's.
It
is
a
public
safety,
related
cost
and
necessarily
having
a
budget
in
general
government.
We
want
it
associated
it
with
the
public
safety
costs.
J
E
G
Think
that
if
we
had
our
own
Police
Department,
we
would
be
showing
that
cost
in
the
police
department
budget.
We
wouldn't
be
showing
it
in
the
general
government
budget
so
we're
just.
It
was
a
public
safety
cost
when
we
had
our
own
Police
Department
and
we're
just
keeping
it
in
the
public
safety
area
to
show
what
our
total
Public
Safety
cost
is.
G
It's
an
ongoing
cost
until
all
those
officers
and
and
their
beneficiaries
pass
it's
an
expenditure
that
we
have
to
keep
keep
spending
and
keep
up
to
date
on
because
of
our
history
of
having
our
own
Police
Department.
So
we're
still
we're
still
paying
for
that.
Even
though
we
went
to
the
sheriff's
department
back
in
94.
J
E
E
We
kind
of
took
a
look
in
most
of
the
costs.
I
would
say
our
police
related
they're,
probably
our
portion
that
are
fire
related.
We
could
come
up
with
a
percentage
or
something
like
that,
but
we
just
at
this
point,
figured
out
the
majority
of
its
police
related.
So
that's
where
we
put
the
cost
and
we
could
at
put
75
percent
against
police
and
then
25
percent
against
fire.
It's
it's
again,
just
where
I'll
call
it.
Those
costs
are
being
budgeted.
I
I
want
to
comment
on
that,
so
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I've
asked
for
going
forward
in
the
budget
process
that
we
nail
down
more
specifically
how
much
we're
paying
for
Public
Safety
I
appreciate
that
year
over
year,
we're
getting
closer
to
hammering
down
exactly
what
our
true
cost
is
because
to
Laura's
point
you
know
when
someone
throws
up
a
graph-
and
it
says:
oh,
the
city
of
San
Clemente
pays
ten
million
dollars
for
police
services.
Laguna
Beach
pays
twenty
two
million
dollars
for
police
services.
I
Well,
that's
a
12
million
dollar
deficit
right
if
we
were
to
go
to
a
police
agency
of
our
own
I.
Think
doing
this
more
closely
reflects
what
our
true
cost
for
Public
Safety.
Are,
that
being
said,
I
support
Laura.
If
we
could
break
it
out
and
show
this
is
fire.
This
is
police.
This
is
marine
safety
for
next
year's
budget.
So
that
way
we
have
a
clear
understanding
of
this
is
truly
what
our
public
safety
costs
are.
E
And
we
can
talk
with
our
actuary
at
CalPERS
in
the
future
to
try
and
identify
those
a
little
bit
better.
Like
I
said
everything
that
we've
received
from
CalPERS
I
would
wear
I'll
call
it
in
incremental
costs
have
been
police-related.
That's
why
we
just
associated
you
know
what
yeah,
probably
a
vast
majority
of
it
is
more
police,
but
we
can
talk
with
our
actuary
at
CalPERS
and
determine
a
more
respectable
percentage
break
out.
I
B
E
Again,
hopefully,
this
payment
will
go
away
after
time.
One
of
the
goals
of
all
the
pensions
are
to
be
fully
funded,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
contribute
towards
those
past
employees
anymore.
So
again,
you
know,
hopefully
at
some
point
they'll
go
away.
I
think,
based
on
the
timeline
that
the
actuaries
are
using,
I
want
to
say
it's
about
17
years
or
something
along
those
lines.
Again,
it's
in
the
pension
update
I
think
it
was
twenty
thirty,
four
or
twenty
thirty
five,
when
those
costs
would
actually
based
on
their
analysis,
would
be
going
away.
So,
okay,.
J
You
have
a
question:
Chris
I
have
one
for
James,
I'm
James.
You
said
earlier
when
you're
speaking
about
the
fourth
firefighter
on
the
engines
that
we
would
you
said
we
we
will.
We
will
take
over
this
funding
of
the
fourth
firefighter
and
I
meant
lit
the
specialist
he
had
30
years
and
fire
administration's
services,
because
that
was
that's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
concerning
to
me,
you
had
noted
three
positions,
but
we
have
three
shifts.
I
think
we
have
a
fireman
here,
three
shifts
per
day.
Correct.
J
Is
it
three
shifts
today
three
shifts
total,
so
three,
only
three
so
three
fire
fighters
anyway,
so
I
looked
up.
I
met
with
somebody
who
has
some
really
good
experience
like
I
said
three
decades
of
this
and
three
is
recommended
right.
Three
is
recommended
on
the
National
Fire
Protection
Association
issues
standards
and
they
don't
recommend.
You
know
you
don't
have
to
have
four:
it's
not
the
law
to
have
four,
but
it's
it's
a
high
cost
for
us.
J
So
if
we're
that's
going
away-
and
we
don't
have
to
have
for
this
person-
I
met
with
had
said
that
you
know.
As
for
fires,
the
city
was
the
first
well,
we
were
the
first
city
in
the
nation
to
have
a
fire
sprinkler
ordinance,
there's
a
lot
more
from
now,
but
the
city's
good
fire
safety
record,
because
as
historic
mandate
where's
the
data
that
demonstrates
the
need
that
we
have
to
have
four.
J
We
do
a
really
good
job
with
deterrents
there
can
we
shift
that
to
Deputies
so
that
we
can
add
a
couple
of
more
deputies,
because
for
years
and
years
we
keep
hearing,
the
community
wants
to
have
a
safer
community
and
more
deputies,
so
that
the
response
rate
is
better
and
crime
can
go
down
because
I
think
we're
really
suffering
in
that
area
and
I.
Just
I
just
can't
approve
a
budget
on
June
4th
when
it
comes
back
to
us.
J
G
Well,
the
the
fourth
fire
fighter
out
there
on
engine
50
was
added
when
the
hospital
closed
and-
and
the
purpose
of
that
was
so
that
when
the
when
the
fire
truck
ran
up
to
Mission
Hospital
in
Mission
Viejo,
they
could
leave
the
firefighter
paramedic
with
the
patient
at
Mission
Viejo
at
Mission
Hospital.
While
that
patient
was
waiting
to
be
admitted,
I
think
councilmember
Hamm
can
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
more
elegantly.
G
But
then
when,
when
with
that
firefighter
there
at
the
hospital,
then
the
fire
truck
with
three
personnel
on
board
can
still
respond
to
calls
within
the
city
of
San
Clemente.
If
there
was
only
three
firefighters
or
3
personnel
on
the
vehicle
and
it
went
to
Mission
and
it
had
to
wait
with
a
patient,
then
that
truck
would
be
out
of
service
and
there
were
response
times
issues
with
the
other
truck
I
believe
it's
truck
29
in
Dana
Point.
That
would
have
to
backfill
into
the
city
of
San
Clemente.
H
I
So
I
can
expound
upon
that
a
little
bit
for
you,
Laura
using
the
term
firefighter
it's
kind
of
misnomer
in
this
circumstance,
and
referring
to
the
NFPA,
which
is
national
fire
protection
agency,
sets
standards
for
firefighting.
The
position
was
a
firefighter
paramedic
that
we
added,
and
so
we
added
an
entire
paramedic
unit
by
adding
that
one
position,
and
so
with
the
closure
of
San
Quentin
Hospital.
We
doubled
our
transport
times
to
Mission
and
we
also
increased
our
wall
times
by
75
hours
on
average
per
month.
So
we
had
both
of
our
paramedic
units.
I
J
I
I
Thing
we
did.
We
had
one
ambulance
in
the
city
of
San
Clemente
for
70,000
people
with
the
near
state,
freeway
and
State
Park,
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
target
hazards
in
this
community,
but
tap
one
ambulance
was
we
were
severely
understaffed.
So
that's,
but
that's
an
entirely
separate
issue.
That's
a
private
contract,
not
fire
related.
So
that's
just
a
clarification.
J
Well,
my
comment
still
stands:
I
think
every
department
and
division
needs
to
make
some
reductions
so
that
we
can
fund
deputies
a
few
more
deputies
really
important
for
a
community
to
have,
especially
with
all
the
issues
we've
seen
just
exploded
in
the
last
few
years.
So
there's
there's
a
nexus
there.
F
J
G
G
G
G
I
cut
the
council
member
Ferguson
asked
for
that
back
in
February,
somewhere
around
there
and
I
sent
it
to
the
whole
council
with
the
idea
that,
if
you
guys
wanted
me
to
make
that
part
of
the
budget,
then
you
would
have
given
me
the
direction
as
a
body
during
the
LT
FP
process.
I.
Think
that's
when
we,
when
we
did
it
or
now.
You
know
that
the
the
cuts
are
still
valid
and
you
know
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
him
again
and
review
them
with
the
department
heads
but
yeah.
F
I,
don't
recall
what
they
are,
but
I
know
in
governmental,
accounting
and
just
what
Jake
did
trying
to
move
some
of
the
liability
and
call
it
in
the
fund
that
it
should
be
going
into
you're
supposed
to
call
things
what
they
are
and
that's
why
it
is
good.
It's
not
good
government
practice
and
budgeting
to
to.
If
you
need
the
positions
to
just,
have
it
and
come
out
of
overtime
so
that
I
understand
we.
G
Hadn't
typically
used
all
of
our
overtime
budgets,
so
chief
Peters
and
I
for
that
one
budget
year
we
blew
through
the
overtime
budget.
I
took
the
position
with
him
that
the
City
Council
budgeted
X
amount
of
dollars.
What
was
it
14
15
million
dollars
and
go
ahead
and
spend
fifteen
million
dollars?
You
know,
and
if
that
includes
going
through
the
overtime
so
that
we
can
get
enhanced
enforcement
to
see
what
it
looks
like
then
we'll
do
that
and
then
we
came
back
and
said:
okay,
let's
turn
that
over
time
into
regular
full-time
deputies.
G
F
G
That
it's
also
important
to
note
that
you
know
and
I
appreciate
everything
the
deputies
do
and
and
I'm
not
sure
that
overtime
is
a
healthy
way
to
staff.
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
healthy
for
them!
I,
don't
think
it's
healthy
for
us
and
getting
them
the
help
they
need.
If
that's
what
we
determine,
we
need
more
deputies
and
I,
think
that's
better
holistically
for
the
deputies
and
for
the
city
and
and
I
think
it
keeps
them.
I
would
think
that
it
keeps
them
fresher
to
do
their
jobs
they're
out
there
we're
doing
312.
G
Is
that
what
we're
doing
312
you
know
with
overtime?
They
can
work
up
to
16
hours
a
day,
you're
wearing
a
duty
belt
and
everything
else.
That's
a
lot
of
gear
and
to
be
huffing
around
for
for
16
hours,
so
I
would
prefer
that
we
have
fresh
deputies
ready
to
rock
and
roll
for
12
hours
like
we
like.
The
expectation
is
then.
F
Why
the
council,
director,
James
and
Erik
work
with
the
deputies
on
how
maybe
we
can
fund
more
out
of
the
overtime
budget
and
how
restructure
it?
That
way,
if
that's
a
possibility,
because
I
don't
I,
don't
know
of
any
more
cuts,
I
can't
remember
what
they
were,
but
we
took
such
a
hit
last
year
to
do
these
cuts.
I
just
don't
know
what
we're
there
is
anymore
and
I,
and
our
staff
already
that
we
has
gone
through
cuts
and
I
know
our
staff
is
working
with
less
than
they
ever
have.
G
Reduced
in
the
budget,
staffing
costs
by
$400,000
this
year
on
on
our
side
already
on
our
general
fund
side.
So
that's
that's
what
we
did
as
part
of
the
budget
and
we
still
came
away
only
came
away
with
a
$400,000
surplus.
So,
as
Eric
said,
you
know,
we
looked
at
staffing
positions
and
and
what's
needed,
so
we
have
been
doing
that
and
doing
more
with
less
and.
F
J
James,
maybe
you
can
s
answer
this
question,
just
just
a
hypothetical
now
I'm
looking
here
at
planning,
just
a
planning
department,
okay,
so
our
city's
built
out
right,
but
our
planners
in
the
planning
department,
the
staff
has
grown.
So
why
do
we
need
more
planning
when
our
city
is
built
out,
I'll.
G
J
G
And
that
was
part
of
the
the
matrix
study
that
we
did
back
in
16
or
17,
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
increasing
the
code
enforcement
was
to
help
with
vacation
rental
enforcement
and
those
various
nuisance
and
quality-of-life
issues.
And
you
know
some
of
those
issues
whether
they
were
noise.
Complaints
and
other
disturbances
had
typically
been
handled
by
the
Sheriff's
Department.
And
so
we
thought
that
by
adding
a
code
enforcement
officer
that
works
from
2:00
p.m.
G
J
J
A
Amendments
of
the
general
plan
implementation
measures
that
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on,
including
pierre
bowl,
specific
plan
update
and
other
specific
plan
updates.
So
you
know,
there's
still
work
to
do
to
implement
the
2014
general
plan
and
part
of
that
is
also
working
on
a
local
coastal
program.
So
we
can
have
the
ability
to
issue
coastal
development
permit
in
the
coastal
zone.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
Laura
can
I
jump
in
for
a
second
here
sure,
so,
first
off
I
want
to
commend
you
for
wanting
to
have
this
conversation,
because
it's
the
exact
conversation
I've
wanted
to
have
for
six
years.
If,
if
we're
gonna
talk
about
Public
Safety
and
make
it
a
priority,
then
we
need
to
dig
down
deep
into
the
budget
and
see
where
we
can
make
cuts.
That
being
said,
I
want
to
commend
you,
but
I
also
want
to
commend
our
Sheriff's,
Department
and
excellent
work
that
they
do.
I
And
if
that
is
the
case,
then
I
think
we
could
have
a
mid
budget
mid-year
budget
adjustment
to
adjust
for
more
deputies
because,
like
we
heard
this
evening
from
at
least
two
speakers
and
multiple
speakers
yesterday,
the
deputies
aren't
legally
able
to
enforce
the
laws
that
are
on
the
books.
Currently,
so
I
want
to
ensure
that
our
deputies
are
able
to
enforce
those
laws
a
week
from
today
and
when
they
show
that
they
can
enforce
those
laws
a
week
from
today
and
we
need
to
give
them
more
resources.
I
J
You
know
areas
resident
residential,
but
areas
that
are
more
east
of
the
freeway,
because
you
know
we
don't
have
the
bars
out
there
and
all
of
the
activities
that
come
with
it
so
and
I'm
signed
up
to
be
a
neighborhood
watch
block
captain.
So
we
are
we're
going
strong
with
our
reigniting.
Our
neighborhood
watch
there,
but
it's
we
need
some
help
in
San,
Clemente
and
other
communities
as
well
as
you
heard
tonight.
So
we
need
to
find
a
way.
J
F
F
B
I
I
was
gonna,
say,
I'm,
supportive
of
leaving
the
mid-year
budget
adjustment
out
there
as
a
discussion
point.
If
we
do
see
some
good
implementation
coming
forth
in
the
next
month
or
so
so
we
have
the
ability
to
have
the
conversation,
because
I'm
supportive
of
it
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
we're
just
a
little
late
in
this
budget
process
to
be
doing
it
now
and.
J
Cars
helps
and
and
to
piggyback,
on
what
councilman
ham
said
when
you
said
it's
late
in
the
process,
we
we
really
need
to
get
this
earlier.
I
think,
maybe
if
we
can
adjust
that
schedule
going
forward
in
the
future
to
not
get
this
just
this
budget,
just
like
ten
days
before
we
adopt
it
so
I'd
like
to
recommend
that
in
the
future
that
we
look
at
that.
B
G
B
B
O
O
That
would
be
directed
to
enforcement
with
the
burglaries
and
the
thefts
that
we're
having
those
are
dramatically
increasing,
so
the
more
deputies
that
we
have
out
in
the
field.
The
more
that
we
can
address
those
issues
also
too,
with
the
homeless
issue
that
we're
having
and
the
proposal
that
we're
trying
to
do
that's
going
to
take
resources
so
moving
people
and
doing
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing.
We
haven't
even
accounted
for
that,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
start
taking
deputies
in
the
field
and
start
repositioning
them
to
deal
with
that.
O
Well
now
your
neighborhoods
in
the
North
County
and
the
south
all
the
way
over
to
talega
those
deputies
aren't
gonna,
be
there
so
I,
don't
know
what
the
city
wants
me
to
do.
Where
you
want
me
to
address
it.
I
will
allocate
resources
where
you
guys
want
them,
but
I'm
telling
you
right
now
that
that
we
are
just
starting
a
huge
undertaking
right
now
and
I
haven't
gotten
any
help
to
address
that.
O
B
One
of
the
ideas
that
I
don't
know,
I
think
I've
talked
to
a
few
people
about,
but
if
we,
if
we
did
something
and
we
partnered
with
some
of
our
neighboring
cities,
for
example,
with
officers
I
deal
with
the
homeless
or
crime
prevention
specialists,
things
like
that,
and
we
come
back
in
the
mid-year
budget
cycle,
and
we
have
partners
that
are
willing
to
share.
Is
that
an
approach
that
we
could
potentially
take
in
terms
of
sharing
resources?
That.
O
Would
be
great,
and
so
we
have
the
homeless
outreach
team
both
on
the
on
South
East,
Division
and
North
County.
And
so
what
happens?
Is
you
have
other
cities
that
have
deputies
that
provide
for
those
teams
and
what
happens?
The
teams
kind
of
move
around
corrected
enforcement
team
news
around
two
hot
spots:
insults
problems.
O
Well,
we
have
the
most
homeless
in
the
Southwest
Division,
so
the
challenge
you're
gonna
have
is
having
the
other
cities
provide
deputies
for
homeless
issues,
because
the
Lisa
Bao,
according
to
the
point-in-time
study,
has
one
homeless
person
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
city
is
going
to
vote
a
deputy
to
that.
But
I
I
would
absolutely
encourage
that.
But
in
order
to
provide
a
defeat
for
that
position,
I
have
to
have
a
deputy
to
provide
that
I.
O
Don't
have
one
right
now
and
if
I
do
that,
I'm
gonna
pull
it
out
of
the
rotation
right
now
so
somewhere,
it's
gonna
be
cut
short
I.
Absolutely
encourage
that
I
think
that's
a
good
approach
to
do
and
San
Clemente.
We
can
be
the
leaders
to
kind
of
start
that
and
say
hey.
We
will
devote
a
deputy
to
that,
but
I
don't
have
one
right
now
to
do
that.
G
South
County
city
managers
have
been
having
an
ongoing
conversation
and,
and
maybe
commander
Sawyer
can
can
address
it
a
little
bit
more
clearly
than
I
can.
But
we
have
been
having
an
ongoing
conversation
since
before
sheriff,
Barnes
was
elected
about
maybe
potentially
having
a
more
regional
approach
to
some
of
the
issues
and
and
we've
we've
started
the
dialogue
with
him.
You
know
he's
been
on
board
since
December,
so
to
speak,
and
but
it's
a
conversation
that
we're
having
today
I
met
with
the
city
manager
of
Mission
Viejo.
G
O
Resources
so
a
special
enforcement
team.
We
do
not
have
that.
We
have
a
trip
team,
and
so
we
we
have
the
three
deputies
and
they
are
basically
a
special
enforcement
team
and
what
they
do
is
they.
Those
resources
are
allocated
to
problem
areas
that
I
determine
and
we
address
them.
So
that's
what
they're
doing
so
I'll
give
you
a
prime
example.
The
last
two
weeks
they've
been
at
the
mall
at
the
shops.
O
If
you
guys
read
in
the
newspaper
where
they
apprehended
for
burglary
suspects
in
custody
ran
out
to
their
car
were
with
the
suspects
rammed,
our
car
took
those
guys
into
custody
the
week
after
that
they
had
another
case.
So
here's
the
here's,
the
dilemma
we
have
that
going
on
constantly
going
on,
but
now
we
have
other
issues
in
North,
Beach
and
down
to
T
streets.
So
we're.
Where
are
we
going
to
allocate
those
resources?
O
I
can
pull
them
from
from
the
outlets,
but
now
the
burglaries
are
going
to
continue
and
so
that
that's
that's
what
I'm
asking
you
is
is
the
challenge.
Is
we
have
the
deputies
but
I
can't
I
have
to
put
them
in
a
certain
area
to
enforce,
and
so
when
you're
asking
me,
if
we
have
a
set
team
well,
I
don't
have
a
set
team.
How
the
trip
team,
if
we
want
to
do
the
hot
team?
Well,
then
I
need
a
deputy
to
do
that.
I!
O
F
F
F
O
Call
additional
resources
paper,
but
once
again
I'm
for
an
emergency
situation.
I
can
do
that,
but
Monica
says
consistent
basis,
no
because
somebody
else
is
paying
for
that,
as
if,
if
our
city
was
asked
to
help
out
another
city,
the
the
question
would
be
who's
paying
this,
and
why
am
I
paying
for
services
that
the
city
is
not
receiving
so
that
that
is
a
real
challenge?
O
So
if
you're,
asking
me
to
I,
can
I
can
reach
out
to
all
kinds
of
places
to
get
deputies,
but
they're
not
gonna,
be
happy
providing
them
if
they're
working
down
here
and
number
two,
if
we're
gonna
pay
overtime
for
it,
who's
gonna
pay
for
that
our
overtime
budget,
just
FYI,
you
guys
probably
have
the
figures
I'm
at
140
percent
right
now,
I
still
have
two
more
months
to
go.
So
we
want
to
talk
about
we're.
F
F
Was
I
was
asking
some
stuff,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
enough
people
for
our
current
endeavor
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
so
I
know
you're
courting
that
with
with
our
staff,
and
so
that's
just
an
interest,
because
we
have
some
people
we
need
to.
They
need
to
be
taken
care
of
well,
and
so
you
need
to
have
the
amount
of
people
that
you
need
to
do.
O
F
G
F
O
F
G
You
know
that's
a
that's
an
interesting
thing,
because
you
know
I
think
attractive.
You
know
it
attracts
a
certain
element
of
crime
and
I
think
you
know
the
Syst
the
city
has
has
been
deficient
over
the
years
as
we've
as
councilmember
Ferguson
pointed
out.
You
know
we
contracted
with
the
Sheriff's
Department
back
in
94.
We
pretty
much
set
our
limits
with
them
and
then
we
added
forster
ranch
telega
the
reserve.
The
outlets
now
see
summit
and
at
and
at
no
time
did
we
address
the
public
safety
need
and
we've
just
added
added
added.
G
G
G
Because,
as
Cecilia
mentioned,
we
have
a
backlog
of
planning,
initiatives
that
are
directed
by
the
council
and
by
the
public
and
and
it's
no
fault
of
the
the
Sheriff's
Department
or
the
fire
department,
but
their
pension
costs
are
such
that
their
rate
is
going
up
at
such
a
rate
such
a
high
percentage
every
year
that
it
impacts
our
ability
to
keep
up
with
them,
because
our
revenues
aren't
going
up.
At
that
rate
and
and
honestly
I
know,
you
guys
don't
want
to
hear
it.
G
I
know
public
doesn't
want
to
hear
it,
but
we
really
need
to
have
a
conversation
on
what's
important
and
you
know
if
services
are
important,
then
we
need
to
make
it
happen,
and
if
those
services
are
important,
then
we
have
to
look
at.
What
are
we
going
to
do
revenue
wise
to
to
pay
for
him?
Is
that
revenue
I'm?
Sorry?
But
we
didn't
adopt
the
t
ot,
we
didn't
adopt
it
in
16.
We
didn't
adopt
it
in
in
18.
G
That's
a
loss
over
the
past
three
years
of
1.1
and
three-quarter
million
dollars,
I'm
not
saying
we
would
have
used
it
all
on
police
services,
but
that's
two
deputies
a
year
right
there
that
we
could
have
funded
with
t
ot
that
wouldn't
affect
the
residents
of
this
town.
67,000
residents
would
not
pay
for
that.
The
visitors
to
this
town
would
pay
for
that
and
supplement
the
load
that
they
put
on
our
Police
Department
and
help
supplement
what
demand
they're,
putting
on
it
with
two
million
visitors
to
the
city.
G
Conversely,
I
brought
up
the
the
Business
Improvement
District
for
the
downtown
again
ad
meters.
Do
we
increase
revenue
there?
Can
we
take
that
money
and
then
dedicate
it
to
a
deputy
that
is
assigned
to
the
downtown
T
zone
and-
and
these
are
conversations
that
I
think
we
should
have,
and
we
should
have
them
in
a
mature
fashion
that
addressed
the
issues
that
are
in
hand
that
we
need
increase
public
safety,
but
we
also
need
to
do
these
things
like
Cecilia
points.
Out
of
you
know,
planning
initiatives.
G
We
need
to
provide
recreational
opportunities,
I
think
if
we
do
a
pickleball
court,
that's
a
350
thousand
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
budget
cost
to
out
a
pickleball
court,
the
size
of
a
tennis
court.
So
those
are
the
sorts
of
costs
were
looking
at
constantly
and
staff
is
evaluating
them
and
in
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
revenues
we
have,
the
outlets
right
now
are
doing
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
knew.
We
built
Vista
Hermosa
with
the
idea
that
the
outlets
would
pay
for
that
and
would
leave
money
left
over.
G
We
assumed
at
one
time
that
the
outlets
would
produce
upwards
of
four
million
dollars
in
sales
and
property
tax
right
now.
We're
at
I
mean
it
in
sales
and
T
ot
right
now
we're
at
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
It's
been
four
years
since
they
opened
their
doors
up
over
there
we
thought
we
were
gonna.
Get
four
million
were
close
to
three
million
dollars
behind
in
what
we
thought
we
were
going
to
get.
Mr.
Hermosa
costs
us
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
operate
close
to
a
million
dollars.
G
The
outlets
have
barely
paid
for
it,
so
those
are
the.
Those
are
the
challenges
that
staff
has
on
a
year-to-year
basis
and
it
really
comes
down
to
two
revenue.
We
did
do
a
survey
last
year
and
we
polled
the
residents
I
think
we
can
produce
it
for
the
council
and
we
asked
him
if
we
did
a
tax
increase,
a
parcel
tax
or
something
for
Public
Safety.
Is
there
a
desire
for
it
and
there
was
no
desire?
There
was
no
appetite
I
think
it
came
in
at
38%
Eric
a
little
lower
than
34.
G
F
For
me,
I
mean,
if
that's
our
great
thank
you
for
seeing
that,
because
we
need
to
remember
that
and
that
all
that
happened,
but
I'm
just
wondering
since
we
already
are
do
an
election.
If
you
could
look
at
adding
what
the
likelihood
of
adding
it
and
not
saying
Tod,
because
apparently
our
residents
are
not
for
visitors
paying
anymore
to
come
in
here,
I'm
paying
their
fair
share.
F
One
of
my
neighbors
I
hate
to
say
the
reason
he
told
me
he
didn't
vote
for
the
T
ot
is
because
he
travels
all
the
time
and
he
hates
all
the
extra
added
taxes
on
his
airplane
bills
and
I
said.
But
you
don't
understand
this
is
so
that
people
will
help
pay
for
our
infrastructure
that
they're
using
when
they
visit
it.
So
look
at
maybe
how
its
worded
that
it's
for
sheriff's,
oh
and
forth,
firefighter
and
all
of
that
for.
G
Public
Safety,
if
we
add
it
to
to
the
election
and
the
mayor,
pro-tem
and
I've,
had
this
discussion
on
an
ongoing
basis.
If
we
say
we're
going
to
dedicate
the
money
to
public
safety,
we
need
66%
to
get
it
to
get
it
adopted
and
we
got
our
butts
kicked
at
53
to
47
this,
our
54
to
whatever
it
was.
It
wasn't
pretty,
but
we
didn't
declare
what
it
was
and
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
and
I
about
a
ongoing
discussion
about
how
we
should
do
it.
If
we
did
it
again.
Okay,.
J
Regarding
that
the
t
OT
tax
measure
the
seat
on
the
ballot,
I
mean
any
any
ballot
measure
without
any
specificity
of
where
the
money
will
go,
it's
unlikely
it
will
pass.
So
that's
my
comment
there
and
regarding
that
outlets
in
the
hotel-
and
it
was
first
approved-
and
you
know
every
year
that
the
numbers
were
updated
but
I
remember
it
was
about
2.3
million,
not
four
million.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
I
was
very
involved
in
that
project
years
ago,
but
back
to
our
chief
mannhart.
J
O
Have
13
contract
cities
in
the
Sheriff's
Department
that
we
patrol
and
mayor
pro-tem,
been?
We
discussed
this
during
the
interview
with
the
city
manager
when
I
was
applying
for
the
job
when
I
came
down
here
as
a
deputy
that
that
San
Clemente
is
one
of
the
busiest,
if
not
the
busiest
city,
for
deputies
to
work
in,
we
have
a
high
volume
of
calls.
O
J
B
A
For
the
last
15
years,
I've
lived
in
other
surrounding
beach
cities
right
here.
All
my
life,
I
wasn't
even
gonna
speak
to
speak,
because
I
cannot
speak
succinctly
after
hearing
everything
I
heard
it
is
all
over
the
place.
I
was
gonna
start
out
asking
all
the
things
on
this
budget.
I,
don't
understand
miscellaneous
income
as
revenue
is
gonna
grow
by
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
percent.
That
is
amazing
and
fabulous.
What's
what
is
it?
What
are
we
doing.
A
A
Expenditures,
other
charges,
I,
don't
know
what
those
are,
but
we
spend
a
million
two
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
and
some
change
on
them.
That's
a
big
miscellaneous
category
to
me,
I
would
I
would
just
like
to
know
how
it's
spent
I
pay
over
ten
thousand
dollars
in
property.
Tax
I
don't
want
to
be
negative
and
condescending,
but
I
am
blown
away
that
you
guys
are
here
to
pass
a
budget
and
you
are
out
in
talega,
oh
I,
hope
they're
on
neighborhood
watch.
A
A
What
comes
over
the
ridge
I
live
in
those
homes
up
there
by
then
I
sure
hope,
they're
not
down
at
Mission
Hospital,
helping
somebody
when
we
need
them
right
here
this
the
response
time
until
each
one
of
you
individually,
experienced
your
power
broken
into
your
daughter,
being
raped
your
things
happening,
you're
not
going
to
understand.
This
is
amazing.
At
the
lack
of
waste
presents,
we
have
I,
feel
the
city
I
not
come
to
a
finance
me.
The
city
is
chasing
its
tail
being
reactive
in
a
huge
lag
time.
A
If
we
had
this
police
presence,
maybe
things
would
have
gotten
so
bad
these
criminals
as
drug
out
of
their
minds
that
they
are
phrases.
They
are
lack
of
education
that
they
are.
They
got
it
figure.
It
out
they
know
the
cops
can't
be
down
at
t
street
and
talega,
and
all
these
places
at
once,
it's
terrible
I
wouldn't
got
cameras
on
my
home
about
three
times
a
month
now
I
see
a
person
pull
the
door
handles
in
my
car
I'm.
A
Sorry
I
respectfully
ask
for
a
little
bit
more
because
you
guys
had
a
big
nail
on
the
head
of
unfunded
liability
about
contracting
now,
which
is
a
much
better
thing,
but
I
don't
know
that
the
public
on
the
county,
employee,
I'm
on
the
dole.
It's
a
really
good
thing.
All
you
guys,
I,
don't
have
a
employee
at
150.
A
A
Until
they
retire
I'm
sorry
until
they
die
and
their
dependents
die,
you
guys
are
still
paying
that
it's
that
way
with
every
single
one
of
the
employees
when
they
retire
out.
It's
a
huge
unfunded
liability.
I
have
so
many
questions
about
this
budget.
An
educated
person
not
in
the
city
can't
read
it.
B
Thank
you
yeah,
so
you
know
it's
gonna
be
adopted
on
June
4,
so
I
get
a
second
chance
to
email,
those
questions
and
you
can
appear
at
that
hearing
as
well,
so
my
house
was
burglarized
and
until
they
get
ten
years
ago,
so
I
I
definitely
understand
what
you're
saying
and
that's
order
and
try
to
work
on
Thank
You.
Mr.
Mamun.
L
Thank
you,
James
everything
you
said
was
correct
a
few
minutes
ago.
It
was
virtually
the
same
thing,
I
said
and
when
I
said
it
Chris
said
I
was
a
liar
and
you
know
I
don't
address
that
yeah
and
every
knows
about
me.
I,
don't
know,
address
individual
council
members,
in
fact
I
didn't
mention
Chris's
name
or
any
other
council
member
to
not
address
policy.
Shame
on
you!
Chris!
We
had
emails
back
and
forth
few
years
ago
that
you
would
never
attack
me
personally
unless
you
gave
me
a
chance
to
respond.
L
You're,
a
coward
and
I've,
never
called
you
up
before.
But
why
would
do
that
last?
It
was
complimentary
of
you,
and-
and
tonight
you
attacked
me-
is
lying.
I
didn't
lie
about
anything
the
hotel
you
talked
about
was
approved
years
ago.
Yet
it
took
a
chick-fil-a
took
what
two
years
and
is
still
not
approved
or
not
started
term
ended
three
years.
Don't
tell
me
the
city
is
business
friendly,
don't
tell
me
we're
approving
hotels.
Last
Hotel
we
approved
was.
B
L
This
is
my
point:
I've
never
called
you
out
personally
during
this
council
meeting
until
tonight.
I
didn't
mention
you
tonight.
Chris
I
didn't
mention
anything
about
you.
I
mentioned
the
council
and
the
city.
I
have
a
right
as
a
citizen
to
do
that.
If
you
want
to
attack
me
I'm,
the
big
boy
I
can
take
it.
You
want
to
call
me
a
liar.
Okay,
I
just
proved
you
I
didn't
lie,
so
the
the
city
manager
said
virtually
the
same
thing.
I
said.
L
So,
if
you
call
me
a
liar
calling
James
liar
I've
never
heard
him
lie
in
front
of
this
council.
He
tells
us
what
his
view
is.
He
has
the
right
to
do
that
and
so
do
I.
If
you
want
address
policy
with
me,
let's
go
at
it.
Chris
anytime,
you
want.
Okay,
you
do
a
job,
you
were
elected.
You
should
do
that
job,
but
we
have
a
citizens,
have
a
right
to
say,
maybe
or
not
nobody's
address.
Thank
you,
Dan
for
addressing
the
points
I
raised,
where's
the
three
million
dollars
to
the
homeless.
L
Coming
from
you
guys,
didn't
resolve
that
tonight.
You're,
worried
about
a
share
four
to
three
million
dollars
would
pay
for
plenty
of
Sheriff.
You
don't
have
it
in
your
budget
for
the
homeless,
shelter,
so
I
think
we
need
to
raise
these
points
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
exactly
what
I
said
it
would
just
find
revenue
sources.
That's
what
I
was
called
the
liar
about.
We
need
revenue
sources,
we
haven't
done
it
Chris.
You
haven't
done
it
and
I'm
sorry
for
addressing
you
personally.
L
This
council
hasn't
done
it,
but
it's
time
for
them
to
look
at
it
and
I'm,
not
saying
new
taxes
at
all
I'm
saying
zoning
that
will
bring
in
revenue
sources
implementing
quicker
turnaround
times
for
businesses
coming
into
town,
helping
businesses
through
promotion
there's
all
kinds
of
ways
we
could
do
without
spending
money
on
it,
but
we
can
make
it
business
friendly,
we're
not
a
business
friendly
town.
We
net
we
haven't
been
for
years
and
I
think
that
what
I
heard
from
James
tonight
was
great.
Maybe
we
could
become
that
you
know.
L
Maybe
we
can
move
towards
that
direction
and
as
far
as
cuts
to
departments,
there's
cuts
to
made.
We
added
to
enforcement
officers
for
compliance.
We
did
that
too.
You
know
for
to
help
the
people.
We
don't
need
those
they're
not
necessary
they're
sitting,
not
working
all
the
time.
We
can
cut
those
back
and
put
one
sheriff
in
place.
We
can
cut
in
the
city
manager's
department
at
least
take
away
an
administrative
assistant,
get
it
rid
of
the
legislative
assistant.
We
certainly
don't
need
we
can
get
rid
of
assistant
city
manager.
K
I
So
I'm
gonna
step
in
here
for
a
second
defend
myself
Brad
because
well
you
just
got
three
minutes
to
do
it
actually
and
I
interrupted
you
because
you
interrupted
me
from
the
back
multiple
times
this
evening,
but
I
will
tell
you
this
Brad
is
when
you
speak
calmly
and
concisely,
and
you
have
valid
points
you
make
very
good
ones,
but
when
you
make
rash
generalizations
like
this
counsel,
the
past
seven
years
has
stopped
business
or
stopped
hotels.
That
is
fact
you
actually
did
it's
factually
inaccurate,
Brad
and
I'm,
not
Brad
I'm
gonna.
I
Give
you
the
same
respect
that
you
give
me
which
is
I'm
gonna,
interrupt
you
right
now,
I'm
still
interrupting
you
Brad.
So
is
this?
How
we're
gonna
operate
from
now
on?
Is
that
we're
gonna
operate
every
time
you
get
up
here,
I'm
gonna,
interrupt
you,
but
Thank
You,
Brad
I
show
you
absolutely
respect
every
time
you
come
up
here.
I
give
you
a
full
three
minutes
to
speak
and
you
never
do
the
same.
You
never
do
the
same,
so
I'm
I'm,
just
I'm
rebutting
what
you
had
to
say
and
what
you
said
was
factually
inaccurate.
I
As
far
as
what
you
said
to
James
this
evening,
I
completely
agree
with
you.
I
think
James
is
a
curtain
what
he
said,
and
you
have
said
those
things
before
and
I
agree
with
both
of
them,
but
the
things
you
said
earlier
this
evening,
not
all
of
them.
Some
of
them
were
factually
inaccurate,
their
grave
generalizations
over
what
has
happened
this
community
over
the
last
five
years.
That's
all
I'm,
saying
thanks
for
coming
Eric.
D
So,
first
with
regards
to
the
question
of
metrics
in
terms
of
how
many
crimes
response
times
and
so
forth,
so
I
always
encourage
the
public
to
refer
to
the
performance
measures.
Tab
specifically
for
public
safety,
page
296,
which
breaks
down
not
only
calls
for
service.
It
breaks
out
the
type
one
crimes
it
drops
part
two.
It
highlights
moving
violations
and
it
provides
numbers
for
both
2017-18
fiscal
year,
2018
19
and
the
projection
for
2019.
D
Those
have
always
been
in
our
budget
and
are
available
for
the
public.
Jay
can
answer
the
rest
of
the
questions
and
also
I
would
refer
her
to
our
long-term
financial
plan,
where
we
did
a
pension
white
paper
on
all
of
our
unfunded
liabilities
and
council
adopted
financial
policies
to
address
those
unfunded
liabilities
that
are
reflected
in
your
proposed
budget
tonight.
Those.
G
In
those
stats
on
page
296
Eric,
those
are
all
provided
to
us
from
the
Sheriff's
Department
that
is
correct
and
before
Jake
addresses
the
questions
about
miscellaneous
income
and
expenditures.
She
also
mentioned
that
she
pays
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
property,
tax
and
and
I
think
you
know.
The
public
has
this
misconception,
that
their
property
tax
bill
goes
completely
to
the
city
in
the
city
in
the
city
of
San
Clemente
we
get
about
14%
15%,
but
Roger.
G
E
All
right
so
just
to
deal
with
the
question
on
miscellaneous
it
going
up
to
hundred
twenty
five
percent.
The
big
portion
and
the
reason
for
the
increase
is
there's
actually
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollar
going
down
to
our
public-private
partnerships.
The
Lea
Little
League
is
making
donation
for
some
capital
improvements,
so
175
or
a
hundred,
and
seventy
thousand
of
that
increase,
is
related
to
that
and
that's
identified
on
page
87
and
then
also
on
the
CIP
sheets
and
that
identifies
which
specific
capital
projects
that
be
on
page
218
and
225.
E
I
didn't
look
up
the
names
of
those
projects,
I
think
it's
some
sheltering
or
awnings,
or
something
like
that.
But
that's
the
the
reason
for
the
bakery's
increase
in
miscellaneous
as
to
the
other
charges,
which
would
be
the
expenses
those
are
identified
on
page
96
and
98
I
took
a
look
at
those,
and
the
vast
majority
of
them
are
related
to
contract
class
instructors.
E
B
I
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
move
that
we
well
first
I
wanna,
become
and
staff
on
a
fantastic
job.
Thanks
everybody
for
coming
out
and
with
that
I
move
that
we
adjourn
the
next
regular
counseling,
which
will
be
held
on
June
4th
2019.
The
council
chambers
located
100
Avenue,
a
Presidio
San
Quentin
California
closed
session
items
will
be
considered
a
5
him.
The
public
business
session
will
commence
at
6
p.m.
second.