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From YouTube: DEC 15, 2021 | City Council Continuation from 12/14/21
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City of San José, California
City Council Continuation Session from December 14, 2021
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B
B
Okay,
all
right,
we'll
resume
the
meeting.
Then
I'd
I'd
like
to
ask
if
our
city
clerk
and
our
each
of
our
council
members
can
be
as
clear
as
possible.
I
know
we're
going
to
have
various
motions
and
ask
our
city
clerk
to
record
each
of
the
specific
changes
made
in
each
of
the
motions
and
then
that
we're
going
to
post
those
at
some
point
on
the
screen,
so
everyone
can
follow
along
and
know
exactly
what
changes
are
being
made.
B
B
B
Before
I
I
jumped
in,
I
know
there
was
an
initial
question
about
the
maps
that
chris
presented,
and
I
believe
that,
where
we
left
off
last
week
was
that
there
would
be
an
option
for
the
council
to
consider
in
districts
two
and
ten
and
chris,
you
presented
a
map
yesterday
that
had
only
one
of
those
two
options.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
you
have
both
options.
F
F
So
the
first
the
map
version
one
which
is
in
your
packets.
It
was
included
the
made
by
motion
on
december
9th,
and
it
includes
the
para
for
all
council
member
paralyzes
changes
to
district
three
four
and
six
council
member
carrasco's
changes
to
district
five
and
and
eight
and
council
member
arenas
changes
to
district
seven
and
eight
its
total
population
deviation
is
10.2
percent
and
just
the
highlights
so
you
can
see.
District
10
is
under
populated
by
5.3
percent,
and
district
4
is
overpopulated
by
four
point:
nine
percent.
F
F
F
B
F
F
F
F
F
B
F
F
So
the
issue
really
is
district.
10
needs
to
grow,
so
there
are
a
couple
neighborhood
splits
along
along
its
northern
border,
so
you
could
move
district
10
up
to
the
up
to
this
line
to
to
unify
fox
chase
and
oak
ridge.
You
could
also
move
it
north
to
include
dent
the
dentwood
neighborhood
or
you
could
move
it
north
slightly
to
include
dartmouth.
F
The
other
option,
of
course,
would
be
moving
along
the
district
10
border.
You
could
also
move
you
could
work
in
this
area
of
the
map.
You
could
move
palma
park
up
to
the
85,
and
maybe
I
I
don't-
and
maybe
this
the
santa
teresa
neighborhood
line
as
well.
Those
would
be
easy
fixes
or
slight
movements
in
the
map
to
align
to
major
thoroughfares.
B
Go
into
okay,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
clearly
what
you've
just
articulated
that
you
could
move
from
district
to
palma
park
or
parma.
Is
that
what
you're
suggesting
yeah
exactly?
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
make
sure
it's
all
laid
out.
People
can
see
options
all
right
all
right.
Let's
then
go
to
council
discussion.
As
I
noted
last
night,
councilman
raynes,
you
had
your
hand
up.
Would
you
like
to
speak.
G
G
G
Councilmember
carrasco,
your
microphone
is
on
so
so
anyways.
I
wanted
to
thank
all
of
them
because,
because
of
them
and
because
of
their
coalition
and
their
unity,
they
were
able
to
express
to
a
number
of
us
some
of
their
concerns,
and
we
listened
and
heard
them,
of
course,
and
have
come
up
with
a
solution
that
I
think,
is
amenable
for
those
folks,
and
this
is
highly
important,
as
these
are
the
people
that
represent
all
of
our
communities
of
color
that
have
been
undermined
by
previous
lawmakers.
G
It
was
really
not
because
they
were
marginalized
or
they
don't
have
a
political
voice.
It
was
because
of
a
certain
level
of
comfort,
and
I
and
I,
while
I
can
understand
that
this
is
not
a
process
that
takes
into
consideration
preference
and
comfort,
because
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
is
greater
than
than
that.
G
So
in
particular,
darma
makes
some
changes
to
the
canoas
gardens
area,
and
this
is
really
to
ensure
that
communities
of
color
are
not
removed
from
district
six,
and
I
understand
that
there
isn't
anything
that
this.
These
changes
from
district
six
in
district
9
are
defensible
and
there
isn't
anything
that
from
from
what
I
understand
that
that
could
be
pointed
out
as
incorrect,
but
simply
because
it
is
to
the
letter
of
the
law.
G
Three
just
restore
district
five
boundaries
in
little
portugal
and
restore
some
of
the
boundaries
in
district
8
as
well
and
and
then.
Lastly,
we
have
some
technical
directions
to
ensure
that
the
reed
hill
view
and
and
while
both
of
these
two
area,
san
jose
state
university,
south
campus
stadium.
Well,
both
of
these
are
not
supposed
to
have
any
any
population.
G
G
And
lastly,
my
my
map
builds
on
what
my
council
colleague,
cohen,
has
released
in
in
terms
of
what
we're
referring
to
as
a
cohen
map,
and
I
just
want
to
make
one
observation
about
this
map.
It
takes
into
consideration
segments
of,
I
would
say,
all
of
the
three
maps
and
so
in
in
taken
from
all
the
three
maps.
It
also
considers
what
those
commissioners
and
what
those
stakeholders
have
provided
as
input
throughout
this
whole
time
of.
G
That
that
that
it
might
lessen
the
asian
community-
and
I
I
want
to
correct
that-
because
the
cohen
map
actually
increases
the
share
of
our
asian
citizen
voting
age
population
in
districts
on
average
and
in
it
on
average,
it
goes
from
34.4
compared
to
33.7
by
any
other
map
that
the
council
has
considered
to
date
in
the
community
map.
It's
at
34.1.
G
The
commission
map
is
at
34
34.
Even
the
unity
map
is
34.1
and
the
council
map
that
we
that
we're
labeling,
the
one
that
we've
been
working
off
of
since
last
week
is
34.3,
so
that
is
an
increase
of
any
of
the
other
maps
that
have
been
considered.
It
also
augments
the
voices
of
our
asian
community
in
the
densely
asian
districts
of
d1,
d2,
d4,
d5,
d7,
d8
and
d10
increasing
by
almost
one
percent
compared
to
our
current
district
lines.
G
G
My
district
has
a
an
overwhelming
number
of
asian
communities
of
very
diverse
countries
and
they're
my
neighbors
their
my
community
and
together
we
we
create
a
unified
voice
that
will
benefit
all
of
san
jose,
and
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
spoke
up
and
clarified
that
and
and
lastly,
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
this.
But
I
want
to
say
it
because
I
think
it's
it's
in
in
this
spirit
of
making
sure
we
elevate
each
other.
G
I
think
you
all
have
received
an
email
from
my
former
chief
of
staff,
patrick
mcgarrity,
and
currently
I
have
the
first
vietnamese
american
chief
of
staff,
and
we
really
should
not
be
saying
first
of
anything
at
this
point,
but
yet
we
are
saying
first,
first,
vietnamese
american,
as
in
my
chief
of
staff,
who
is
nancy,
lay-
and
I
couldn't
be
more
proud
of
this
accomplishment.
She
does
her
job
well
regardless
of
her
ethnicity,
but
I
do
want
to
make
that
to
make
sure
that
that
voice
is
there.
A
B
B
B
I
So
I
want
to
make
a
substitute
motion
and
I'm
going
to
go
really
slow,
so
everybody
can
follow
along.
So
I
want
to
start
the
deliberations
by
starting
out
with
which
is
identified
as
council
map
version.
1
corrected
2
9.,
and
I
want
to
adopt
changes
that
were
suggested
today
from
redistricting
partners
to
move
a
small,
neighborhood
or
neighborhoods
from
d2
into
d10
to
ensure
the
d10
population
and
overall
map
is
within
the
plus
minus
10
allowable
population,
variance
to
revise
the
changes
suggested
last
week
that
will
reduce
the
asian
american
population.
I
J
I
J
B
B
I
B
K
K
F
F
So
district,
just
to
just
to
re,
remind
the
council.
Districtor
is
for
public
submissions
of
of
district
maps,
okay
maps
generated
by
redistributing
partners,
we
don't
we
don't
draw
into
district
or
because
we
can't
make
them
perfect
because
we
have
to
hand
draw
them.
So
we
provide
html
google
maps.
We
provide
the
shape
files
to
your
gis
department.
B
Okay,
so
let
me
go
through
what's
been
proposed
and
seconded
just
so
everyone's
clear
and
hopefully
then
the
clerk's
office
will
also
be
able
to
demonstrate
and
display
it
we're,
starting
with
council
version.
One
console
map
version
one,
although
it's
labeled
version
two
and
the
link,
but
apparently
it's
version
one
when
you
pull
it
up.
Is
that
am
I
right
about
that?
Tony.
A
B
A
B
Well,
here's
the
problem
we
just
had
chris
present
two
versions,
one
and
two
and
version
one
sounds
an
awful
lot
like
what
is
version
one
in
the
map.
That's
displayed
when
we
hit
the
link
and
go
online
version.
Two
as
chris
described
was
the
amendment
made,
including
an
amendment
made
by
council
member
mahan,
which
has
a
smaller
deviation,
but
a
north-south
vertical
line
run
through
districts
two
and
three,
so
I'm
assuming
the
version.
B
B
We
would
be
moving
a
neighborhood
or
neighborhoods
from
district
2
to
10
to
correct
for
the
excessive
deviation
and
population
that
chris
has
described,
because
that
is
currently
10.2
and
needs
to
come
down
well
below
10.
So
there's
some
to
be
determined
neighborhoods
that
we're
going
to
need
to
move
across
that
line.
B
Then,
as
I
also
heard,
I
heard
moving
the
following
neighborhoods
hill
view
back
to
district
5.
I
believe
in
ocala
back
to
district
8
out
of
district
7..
Those
were
two
moves
that
had
been
made
by
this
council
last
week
and
you'll
recall.
I
raised
concerns
about
the
dilution
of
asian
american
vote
in
district
seven,
and
it
appears
that
that
would
address
that
concern.
B
There's
also
a
movement
of
little
portugal
back
to
district
3,
where
it
is
currently
out
of
district
5..
That
was
also
a
change
made
last
week,
but
would
return
so
all
three
of
those
would
return
boundaries
to
where
they
are
today
and
have
been
for
the
last
10
years
for
hillview,
o'connor
little
portugal
and
then
some
movement
to
ensure
that
the
airport
remains
in
district.
Five
with
the
populated
census
tract
around
that
airport
would
remain
district,
eight
and
finally,
aborn
silver
creek
would
go
back
to
district
seven
from
district
8..
B
Did
I
get
that
correctly?
Vice
mayor
okay?
So
I'm
inclined
to
support
that
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
One
is,
I
think,
it's
a
really
good
idea
for
us
to
start
where
we
left
off
and
the
council
and
everyone,
and
the
public,
most
importantly,
has
been
tracking
what
we're
doing,
and
I
think
it's
good
at
least
start
where
we
ended
up.
B
Secondly,
I
think
it's
good
for
us
to
correct
what
we
think
are
problems
that
need
correcting,
and
so
far
I've
heard
that
there
are
two
concerns.
One
is
the
deviation,
the
excessive
deviation
that
chris
described
and
that's
why
there's
an
attempt
to
move
a
neighborhood
from
d2
to
d10
and,
secondly,
there's
a
concern
about
potential
dilution
in
district
7
of
the
asian
american
community
there,
because
it
would
appear
to
be
a
a
district
of
concern
for
for
federal
voting
rights
act
purposes.
B
So
I'm
going
to
support
this.
I
think
this
is
a
good
place
to
start.
I
know
that
there
are
going
to
be
other
motions,
but
I
think
it's
good
to
start
where
we
left
off,
because
that
is
the
most
transparent
way
to
do.
It.
There's
been
a
lot
of
dialogue
about
this
map
over
the
last
week,
let's
let's
at
least
start
so
we're
not
confusing
people
with
new
maps
that
are
created.
J
J
J
B
B
Okay,
so
we're
moving
hill
view,
okay
and
that
those
those
districts
are
not
accurately
described.
I
understand
hill
view
goes
back
to
district.
Five
o'clock
goes
back
to
district
eight
and
they
both
would
come
from
district
seven
on
the
on
the
map
that
the
council
had
approved
last
week,
so
it's
from
district
seven
lv
would
go
from
district
seven.
B
B
Yeah
yeah,
if
I
I
just
heard
councilmember
foley,
raise
a
concern.
It
says
the
small
neighborhoods
at
this
point,
they're
small
neighborhoods,
to
be
determined.
So
it's
tbd.
Those
are
again
that's
going
to
be
subject
to
a
subsequent
motion.
We're
going
to
figure
out
what
those
neighborhoods
are
we're
going
to.
Let's
delete
the
word
the
before
small,
because
we
don't
know
what
they
are
yet.
B
B
B
D
Thanks
mayor,
and
can
you
hear
me
now?
I
know
where
we're
headed
yes,
having
audio
issues,
okay,
good
thanks,
so
I
think
you
know
I
would
agree
with
the
vice
mayor
that
the
entire
process
here
at
least
since
last
week,
and
maybe
even
predating-
that
is
not
ideal.
Besides
the
mayor,
this
is
the
first.
I
think
I
actually,
maybe
I
don't
know
if
you
were.
I
believe
you
were
part
of
that.
Yes,
you
were
on
the
council,
so
beside
you.
D
Where
do
we
start
and
as
I
mentioned
last
week,
I
I
wasn't
as
concerned
where
we
started
more,
where
we
ended
up,
and
maybe
maybe
that
was
part
of
the
issue
as
well
for
for
all
of
us,
because
you
know
I
think
individually,
there
were
concerns
whether
we
had
a
perspective
from
being
the
representatives
of
our
district.
Similar
to
to
you
know
the
one
issue
around
japan,
town
that
you
know,
I
recognize
it
to
nobody's
fault.
D
The
maps
that
are
currently
shown
for,
even
even
through
my
own
district
website
do
not
match
up
perfectly
with
what
japan
town
today
includes
within
its
neighborhood
association
and
and
so
some
of
these
nuanced
changes
in
in
bits
of
information
that
council
members
may
have
for
their
own
respective
districts.
I
think
already
we're
going
to
make
it
into
this
conversation
one
way
or
another
and
we're
going
to
amend
maps
and
and
so
anyways.
D
I
I
would
agree
with
the
vice
mayor:
it's
not
ideal
where
we're
at,
but
ultimately
I
think,
even
with
the
vice
mayor's
suggestions
today,
we're
seeing
there's
still
tweaks
and
changes
that
we're
going
to
want
to
make,
regardless
of
where
we
are
starting,
and
you
know
we're
kind
of,
even
if
we
pick
it
back
up
where
we
left
last
week.
We
recognize
there's
some
challenges
there
and
the
vice
mayor
has
made
some
some
suggestions
there.
D
Similarly,
I
think
kind
of
hitting
the
the
delete
button
and
going
back
to
where
we
started
last
week
and
and
ending
up
somewhat
similar.
Actually,
if
I
I'm
not
looking
at
the
two
maps
side
by
side
but
but
clicking
back
and
forth,
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
changes
that
are
matched
of
what
council
member
arenas
is
trying
to
do
with
her
motion.
D
E
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
I
I
feel
the
same
way
as
councilmember
perales
does
I
I
think
you
know
vice
mayor
your
attempted
to
to
get
clarity
and
to
bring
forward
something
that
what
was
not
as
complicated
as
what
we've
had.
I
I
think.
Unfortunately,
it
seems
to
me
it's
not
as
clean
a
version
of
a
map
to
consider,
as
it
was
via
the
motion
that
was
made,
the
underlying
motion,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
be
supporting
this
motion
either.
E
B
L
K
F
So
I
mean
hill
view
was
moved
and
then
the
adorn
and
silver
creek
and
dove
hill
were
moved
into
district
8.
I
believe
I'm
sorry.
It
was
a
born.
A
born
in
silver,
creek
and
dove
hill
were
moved
into
district
8
from
district
7,
and
then
the
vice
mayor's
edit
would
move
adorn
and
silver
creek
back
into
district
7
from
district
8.
F
F
B
F
So,
first
off
we
moved
all
of
the
population
back
into
district.
Eight
we'll
cut
the
census
block
to
ensure
that
the
airport
remains
in
district
five
ocala,
then
that
neighborhood
will
is
move
back
into
district,
eight
and
then
hill
view
here
was
in
version
one
in
district
five,
that's
been
removed,
I
mean
sorry
in
district,
seven,
that's
moved
back
into
district
district
five
and
then
this
adorned
in
silver
creek
was
moved
into
district
eight
in
the
version
one,
but
with
the
corrections
from
the
vice
mayor.
F
B
F
B
F
B
H
H
H
I
also
wanted
to
address
something
that
corrects
some
misinformation
out
there.
The
council
map
actually
increases
vietnamese
voters
by
one
percent
per
district
in
districts,
two
four,
five,
seven
and
eight.
So
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there,
so
we're
being
correct
when
we're
talking
about
asian
voters
and
in
particular,
vietnamese
voters-
and
I
I
know
that
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
people-
I
just
want
to
recognize
the
feedback
that
we
heard
yesterday
and
that
we
heard
since
last
week.
H
This
process
is
indeed
frustrating.
I
think,
that's
something
that
we
can
all
agree
on,
starting
with
three
maps
having
to
pick
a
map,
not
understanding
being
able
to
get
all
the
information
and
even
the
correct
map
after
these
exercises,
because
we
have
to
wait
for
redistricting
partners
to
then
go
and
finalize
it,
because
what
what
folks
can
do
online
isn't
100
accurate,
and
so
so
I
wanted
to
address
those
out
in
the
open
so
that
those
folks
following
can
understand
what
is
happening.
B
B
A
very
real
legal
concern
under
the
voting
rights
act
because
district
seven
is
a
voting
rights
act,
district
of
concern
with
regard
to
the
asian
american
community,
which
is
nearly
half
of
the
district
with
regard
to
voting
age
population.
So
while
it
might
be
accurate
to
say
you're,
adding
asian
american
voters,
it
would
also
be
quite
accurate
to
say
you're
deluding
asian
american
vote
and
reducing
the
voting
percentage
and
that's
the
relevant
consideration
legally.
G
G
I
have
the
brown
skin
that
dilutes
my
rights
within
this
society
automatically,
without
even
taking
my
character
or
who
I
am
into
consideration
and
now
being
accused
publicly
by
you
as
a
mayor
that
this
is
what
I'm
attempting
to
do,
and
so
I
reject
that.
I'm
offended
by
it,
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
the
memo
the
underlying
memo
achieves
equality
for
all
of
the
people
of
color
that
live
on
the
east
side.
Who
are
my
neighbors,
have
been
my
neighbors
all
of
my
life.
G
So
this
this
to
me
is
very
personal.
This
is
the
future
of
my
city
that
I
will
continue
to
live
in.
I
didn't
just
happen
to
come
here.
I
live
here.
This
is
where
my
childhood
is
at.
This
is
where
my
future
is,
and
this
is
where
my
children
are
growing,
and
so
I'm
going
to
reiterate
once
again
that
the
cohen
map
does
more
for
the
asian
community,
the
densely
asian
districts
than
any
other
map,
and
the
and
the
substitute
motion
does
not
correct
what
my
motion
doesn't.
G
What
people
are
saying
my
motion
isn't
doing.
My
motion
is
achieved
already
achieving
that,
so
there
doesn't
need
to
be
a
substitute
motion.
The
only
difference
between
the
substitute
motion
and
my
motion
is
that
it's
not
correcting
the
d6
and
d9
issue
and
and
we're
making
a
big
deal
here
of
the
asian
vote,
which
has
already
been
addressed
because
nobody
wants
to
talk
about
how
the
densely
latino,
asian
and
black
areas
of
canola
gardens
and
in
district
in
in
district
six
are
being
moved
to
district
nine,
which
is
the
least
diverse.
G
G
G
H
B
K
I
think
that,
having
continuing
to
move
forward
with
a
map
that
we
can
say,
the
council
owns
in
the
process
is
a
is
a
more
productive
way
to
go,
and
we
clearly
then
will
have
the
discussions
on
which
on
how
to
adjust
d2d10
for
those
changes
we
need
and
how
to
adjust.
E69.
This
map
is
not
a
vote
on
a
final
map.
This
map
is
is
for
how
to
proceed
from
last
week
and
so
I'll.
I
will
support
the
substitute
motion.
J
Mayhem
thanks
mayor
and
I'll,
you
know,
starting
on
a
lighter
note.
I
want
to
register
my
complaint
with
whoever
brought
the
donuts
this
morning.
That
was
the
last
thing
any
of
us
needed
after
sitting
here
for
12
hours.
Yesterday,
on
a
more
serious
note,
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
rhetoric
last
night
on
on
different
sides,
and
I
I
was
particularly
disappointed
by
the
script
that
was
repeated.
J
J
We
can
have
in
fact
I'm
supporting
a
motion
now
that
orients
east
west
and
we're
going
to
have
that
conversation
in
a
logical
way
and
will
weigh
the
pros
and
cons
like
any
responsible,
deliberative
body
and
as
we've
been
saying,
there
is
no
perfect
map.
This
is
a
difficult
process.
It
requires
trade-offs,
there's
no
perfect
map
and
for
the
record
I
want
to
also
say,
because
I
want
to
be
consistent
here.
I
don't
think
council
member
esparza
is
trying
to
suppress
votes
in
district
7..
J
The
two
biggest
issues
that
have
come
up
that
we
need
to
resolve
in
a
rational
way
are
the
asian
vote.
Dilution
in
district
7
and
the
population
deviation
in
district
10.,
and
this
motion
continues
the
progress
we
made
last
week.
It
builds
on
the
cohen
map
which
builds
on
the
commission
map
and
it
gets
us
closer
to
resolving
those
issues,
and
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
I
don't
believe
that
district
10
should
have
a
significantly
smaller
population.
J
That
would
be
a
problem
because
it's
a
it's
it's
a
it
has
a
larger
share
of
the
white
vote
and
therefore
we
would
be
giving
more
power
to
white
voters
if
district
10
was
significantly
smaller
than
other
districts,
and
once
hopefully,
this
motion
passes.
We're
gonna
have
a
rational
conversation
about
how
to
rebalance
population
to
deal
with
that
deviation,
and
similarly,
we
need
to
be
very
careful.
J
I
think
we
can
all
acknowledge
that
rationally
and
so
the
the
goal
here
and
I
appreciate
the
motion,
even
though
I
don't
agree
with
everything
in
it,
even
though
it
makes
it
proposes
a
very
large
change
to
district
10,
that
I
don't
like
at
least
it's
an
honest
attempt
to
address
the
two
big
challenges
that
have
been
raised.
The
two
big
concerns
the
population
deviation
involving
district
10
and
the
voting
age
asian
population
dilution
in
district
7..
J
So
for
that
reason,
I'm
happy
to
vote
to
move
us
forward.
I'm
still
going
to
make
my
case
for
why
I
don't
love
the
east-west
split,
but
let's
move
on
with
a
rational,
honest
conversation
that
doesn't
accuse
people
of
something
incredibly
serious
and
ethically
and
legally
wrong,
which
is
voter
suppression,
which
is
clearly
not
what
is
going
on
here.
Thank
you.
B
G
Yes,
these
are
new
comments,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
I
heard
it
correctly,
because
the
underlying
motion
has
council
member
cohen's
memo
councilmember
cohen.
Did
I
hear
you
correctly
and
were
you
is
your
position
that
you
were
not
going
to
that
you
were
going
to
support
the
substitute
motion.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
G
So
I
think
she's
having
a
hard
time
raising
her
hand
because
she's
not
on
the
zoom,
okay,
so
anyways.
So
the
the
difference
is
this
d6d9
boundary,
and
I
I
appreciate
I
I
have
huge
respect
for
our
vice
mayor.
I've
always
seen
him
as
a
fair
person,
but
I
always
agree,
but
I
think
generally,
we
tend
to
see
things
kind
of
in
the
same
way
and
of
course
no
two
people
ever
see
things
exactly
in
the
same
way.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
substitute
motion.
G
That
is
the
least
diverse
of
all
of
our
council
districts,
which
is
d9,
and
this
is
one
packing
and
two
cracking
of
this
community
so
packing
in
d6
of
of
the
white
vote
and
cracking
of
the
latino
black
and
asian
they're.
All
all
three
of
these
groups
live
densely
in
these
neighborhoods,
and
so
I'm
asking
for
you
to
really
reconsider
your
position
so
that
these
neighborhoods
could
also
have
a
voice
and
continue
to
have
a
potentially
a
unified,
a
more
unified
voice
and
opportunity
in
d6.
G
They
will
lose
any
opportunity
in
d9.
They
will
be
lost
it.
They
will
never
have
any
chance
of
ever
creating
a
coalition
in
d9.
It's
just
not
realistic
and
so
and
it
currently
in
the
substitute
motion,
it's
almost
impossible
to
fix
the
the
this
this
issue
on
this
canoas
issue,
because
d9
is
too
small.
G
So
it's
meant
not
to
fix
this
canoas
issue
and
so
in
the
same
way
that
that
some
of
my
colleagues
have
been
very
candidly,
very
offhandedly,
accusing
some
of
us
for
suppressing
the
asian
vote
and
I
corrected
and
made
sure
that
I
stand
my
ground.
I
continue
to
stand.
My
grin
there
is
no
dilution
of
asian
vote,
but
here
we
see
a
clear
case
of
dilution
of
latino,
black
and
asian
vote.
Yet
there
is
no
upheaval
about
it.
G
G
Supporting
the
underlying
motion-
and
let
me
just
mention
that
in
the
canoes
garden
area,
the
population
is
roughly
4
200.
of
that
the
latino
population
is
43
percent,
the
asian
population
is
20.3
percent,
the
white
population
is
23
percent
and
black
is
8.7,
and
so
it
it.
It
just
boggles
me
that
that
we're
not
discussing
this
and
pretending
that
this
is
not
an
issue
that
we
need
to
fix
it
it
really.
I
H
M
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
wow
this!
This
was
a
bit
of
a
trickster
for
me.
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
hate
the
fact
that
I
haven't
been
able
to
zoom
in
but
having
horrible
audio
issues,
and
so,
if
you
can't
hear
me
at
any
point,
please
let
me
know
immediately.
M
We
love
san
jose.
My
parents
helped
build
san
jose.
We've
been
here
for
at
least
the
last.
You
know
my
mother
died
at
the
age
of
90.
My
father
died
at
the
age
and
I
agree:
he'd
be
101
today
this
year,
and
so
we've
been
here
for
at
least
90
years
and
and
and
like
council
member
arena
said
you
know
we
were
transplanted
from
mexico,
but
it
was
90
years
ago.
M
So
forgive
me
if
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
especially
given
the
historical
moment
that
we
we've
seen
ourselves
in
the
last
24
months
with
the
pandemic
and
trying
to
come
out
of
it
and
making
sure
that
people
recover.
This
is
important,
and
this
is
why
so
many
folks
are
engaged
last
week
when
we
were
up
at
the
diocese
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
give
people
voice
and
give
them
representation.
M
M
B
B
M
Thank
you.
I
I'd
like
to
just
be
able
to
finish
my
my
comment,
because
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
on
with
the
motions,
I
hope
that
we
will
be
able
to
refer
to
this,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
make
clear
is
that
that
I
I
want
to
point
out
to
once
one
number.
That
is
a
particular
interest.
I
hope
for
everybody,
but
I
hope
also
for
vice
mayor.
In
those
numbers.
M
I
hope
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
these
with
these
attempts
to
to
give
our
community
voices
that
we
keep
in
mind
that
our
african-american
voices
are
very
few,
there
there's
very
few
left
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
but
in
kanoa's
garden,
8.7
of
the
population.
There
happens
to
be
black.
So
with
that,
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
current
motion.
That's
on
the
table,
and
I
hope
that
my
colleagues
understand
the
great
ramifications
that
are
involved
in
supporting
this
and
hope
that
you
will
support
the
underlying
motion.
Thank
you,
mayor.
B
Thank
you,
and
let
me
just
emphasize
again
vice
mayor
jones
specifically
made
a
motion
that
contemplates
additional
emotions,
because
there's
still
unnamed
neighborhoods
to
be
moved,
and
I
expect
there
will
be
a
motion
and
a
discussion
on
canoa's
garden.
So
this
is
not
somehow
another
subverting
that
discussion.
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
just
had
a
question
and
I
and
I
suspect
it
may
fall
on
deaf
ears,
giving
vice
mayor's
reluctance
to
accept
any
any
amendments,
and
this
isn't
necessarily
an
amendment.
But
you
know,
I
think,
the
conversation
around
d2
d10.
It
seems
to
me
that
we
need
to
d10
needs
a
little
bit
more
population.
So
the
presumption
in
the
motion
going
forward
is
that
that
population
is
going
to
come
from
district
two.
I
E
I
could
yeah,
I
completely
understand
that,
and
I
think
that
the
underlying
sentiment
of
some
of
my
colleagues
that
maybe
not
be
supporting
this,
including
myself,
is
that
we
we
understand.
I
think
it's
clear
as
day
that
this
is
not
the
final
map
you're
moving
forward,
an
initial
recommendation
which
we
know
is
going
to
morph
and
change
and
grow
or
or
decrease
or
whatever
in
certain
areas
and
certain
numbers.
E
K
K
B
Yeah-
and
I
just
add
in
terms
of
where
we
draw
population
to
increase
district
10
to
reduce
that
deviation-
that
is
a
very
significant
legal
concern.
I
would
just
point
out
that
district
9
has
a
population,
at
least
according
to
the
map
that
were
provided
online
is
98
800
about
98,
900
voters.
District
2
has
a
population
of
100
700
voters,
roughly.
B
A
E
C
A
J
B
B
J
Well,
marriage
thought
we
could
start
on
that
discussion
of
district
10
in
district
two,
and
I
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
I
thought
where
we
added
last
time
was
that
we
had
two
equally
viable
approaches.
We
had
an
east-west
boundary
and
or
sorry
the
existing
north-south
boundary
and
then
a
proposed,
east-west
shift
and-
and
you
know
the
position
I've
taken
all
along-
is
that
if
the
problem
we
need
to
solve-
which
I
think
is
is
the
the
focus
here
is
addressing
the
the
population
deviation.
J
J
I
I
also
say
I
think,
having
socioeconomic
diversity
in
the
districts
is
a
good
thing.
We,
my
office,
spends
a
lot
more
time
in
the
northern
part
of
the
district,
because
there
is
more
homelessness
there
and
speeding
is
more
rampant
and
there
are
extra
resources
that
our
office
can
put
into
those
neighborhoods
because
of
that
diversity.
In
fact,
I
know
it's
not
up
for
discussion
now,
but
in
the
hoffman-villamonte
district,
our
office.
Actually
has
a
dedicated
staff
person
who
focuses
full
time
on
the
one
gang
hot
spot
in
district
10..
J
So
I
I
am
personally
concerned
I'd
like
to
hear
from
council
member
jimenez
what
his
perspective
on
this
is.
I
am
concerned
about
polarizing
and
socioeconomically,
dividing
our
districts
and
moving
60
000
people
without
a
rationale
it
every
other
move
we
make
on
this
map
is
a
measured
move
neighborhood
by
neighborhood
community
of
interest
by
community
of
interest
to
balanced
population,
we're
moving
the
boundaries
at
the
edges
of
each
district
to
create
a
balanced
and
fair
map,
and
yet
for
some
reason
in
10
and
2.
Without
a
stated
rationale.
I've
asked
for
that
rationale.
J
We
are
talking
about
flipping
a
third
of
each
district,
so
my
my
proposal,
but
I'll
again,
is
to
go
back
to
the
north
south
boundary
that
we
have
and
where
we
left
off
as
one
of
our
two
equally
viable
options.
We
said
last
week,
which
is
north
south
and
then
discuss
which
neighborhood
or
neighborhoods
from
two
would
need
to
go
into
ten
to
better
balance
out
population.
J
J
I
guess
I'd
like
to
just
get
here
a
little
bit
of
your
perspective
on
what
I'm
describing
and
you
know
the
the
starting
place
of
going
back
to
north
south,
as
I
suggested
last
week,
because
it
actually
has
a
lower
population
deviation
and
it
keeps
a
number
of
communities
of
interest
intact.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
reasons
in
my
mind
and
I'm
open
ultimately
open
to
voting
for
a
map
that
doesn't
have
that
orientation.
J
I
don't
have
an
agenda
here,
other
than
what's
best
for
the
residents
of
district
10
and
ultimately,
the
residents
of
the
whole
city.
So
anyway,
I
guess
councilman
richmond
is
if
you're
willing.
Could
you
just
help
me
understand
your
perspective
on
that
boundary
and
if
there
are
specific,
neighborhoods
or
communities
of
interest,
you
think
clearly
belong
in
district,
10
or
two,
and
why.
E
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
for
asking
that
councilmanian.
I
very
much
appreciate
it.
You
know,
since
the
last
meeting,
I've
had
some
some
time
to
dig
into
certainly
the
demographics
of
the
areas
and
they're
pretty
similar.
You
know
I
often
told
people
that
district
2
really
is
a
microcosm
of
the
city,
and
I
think
the
northern
portion
of
district
10
really
mirrors
that
and
so
really
listen.
E
I
I
think
the
cohen
map
the
reason
I
was
supportive
of
the
cohen
map,
which,
by
the
way,
I
had
no
part
in
drawing
or
suggestions
as
to
where
the
line
should
be.
I
think
council,
member
cohen,
made
a
good
attempt
that
I
think
addresses
some
of
the
things
that
come
to
mind
for
me,
and
so
so
I
think
it
makes
common
sense
changes.
E
The
district
2
district,
10
border,
the
the
the
essentially
seeding
some
of
the
northern
part
of
district
10
to
district
2
and
district
2
city
and
some
of
the
southern
part
to
district
10.,
and
I
really
do
think
that
it
better
aligns
the
respective
communities
of
interest
in
district
2
in
district
10..
So
let
me
give
you
an
example
in
the
area
that
is
to
become
district
2
in
the
northern
part
of
district
10.
E
anecdotal
evidence
tells
us
that
the
renters
black
folks
asian
folks
latino
voters
in
edenville
and
along
the
capitol
expressway
that
really
they
share
common
concerns
related
to
transit,
affordable
housing,
tenant
protections,
which
are
a
common
theme
in
district
2..
Now,
likewise,
the
area
that
would
become
district
10
up
against
the
santa
teresa
foothills.
E
Similarly,
in
that
area,
really
almond
and
valley,
santa
teresa
foothills
share
interest
in
protecting
open
space,
limiting
density
and
preserving
single-family
neighborhoods,
such
as
opposition
opportunity,
housing,
which
you're
very
well
aware
of
the
preservation
of
the
view
sheds
concerns
over
fires
and
interest
in
common
trail
network.
Is
this
consistent
with,
I
believe,
a
lot
of
the
d10
general
interest
that
I've
heard
in
the
many
years
that
I
had
working
with
council
member
canis?
E
I
think
the
the
cohen
map
also
takes
into
consideration
some
of
what
the
city
charter
specifies,
as
it
relates
to
natural
boundaries,
geography,
cohesiveness
and,
of
course,
the
threshold
issue
of
deviation,
which
I
think
his
map
addresses
and
where
there
are
no
issues
right.
The
the
essentially
the
reason
we're
having
these
issues
is
because
there's
been
modifications
made
to
the
cohen
map
right
now,
the
deviations
have
changed
and
things
of
that
nature,
right
and
and
and
so,
and
so
the
other
thing
I
would
say,
councilmember
mayhem,
is
that
you
know.
E
Sometimes
some
of
the
fundamental
questions
are:
what's
the
problem
we're
trying
to
fix
right.
Let
me
just
say
first
that
this
this
process
allows
us
to
make
adjustments
to
maps
and
community
representation
without
solving
for
a
problem.
If
you
will,
what
I
believe
is
that
improving
upon
the
existing
boundaries
and
bringing
together
communities
of
interest
is
a
worthwhile
effort,
and
I
think
it
should
be
done,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
have
a
lot
going
on
in
your
district
in
all
parts
of
the
district.
E
You
can
rest
assured-
and
I
and
I
I'd
like
to
think
you'd-
do
the
same
in
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
support
the
residents
in
whatever
district
they
fall
into
right,
and
so
the
folks
aren't
going
to
be
left
without
representation,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
that
is
sort
of
the
rationale
right.
I
I
think
I
think
it
makes
sense.
I
think
it's
consistent
with
the
character
and
the
geography
of
what
is
district
10
in
the
santa
teresa
foothills
area.
E
E
And
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
I
think
your
chief
of
staff
is
the
president
of
that
neighborhood
association,
so
that
that's
that
creates
just
a
very
unique
circumstance,
but
but
there's
also
several
apartment
complexes
that
are
not
part
of
eep.
That,
I
think,
would
benefit
from
some
of
the
work
we're
doing
in
district
two,
and
some
of
those
are
the
woods
which
has
close
to
about
2
000
units
or,
and
maybe
about
2
000
families,
in
addition
to
some
other
apartment
complexes
that
just
aren't
part
of
vp.
E
Additionally,
as
you
well
know,
the
the
emergency
interim
housing
project
that
you've
been
moving
forward,
which
I'm
supportive
of
on
the
corner
of
branham
lane,
east
and
monterey
road,
that's
at
the
tip
of
district,
two
and
most
folks
think
that's
district,
two
and
so
again
common
issues
that
we've
been
dealing
with
in
district
two,
and
that's
why?
I
think
these
communities
of
interest,
I
think,
fall
very
neatly
and
tightly
in
district
two
and
and
that's
the
reason.
I
think
that
we
should
make
these
moves.
J
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
only
wish
the
residents
around
brandon
monterey
thought
it
was
district.
Two
I've
spent
countless
hours,
speaking
with
hundreds
of
them,
who
know
very
well
that
they're
in
district
10.
But
I
appreciate
your
comments.
Yeah,
I
mean
what
concerns
me
and
the
reason
I
don't
support
the
east
west
split.
Is
that
it?
J
So
I
just
I
can't
support
the
the
east-west
split.
I
still
don't.
I
don't
hear
about
a
specific
community
of
interest.
Yes,
there's
slightly
more
renters
in
the
northern
part
and
slightly
more
homeowners
than
the
southern
part.
I'm
not
sure
that's
how
we
should
be
drawing
our
district
boundaries,
so
I
my
motion
is
to
retain
the
north-south
boundary
and
to
identify
one
or
two
logical,
adjacent
neighborhoods
that
could
move
from
d2
to
d10
to
address
the
population
deviation.
B
B
F
B
F
I've
put
up
on
them
on
the
map
of
purple
layer.
This
is
the
alternative
version
of
the
map
that
uses
the
north
south
split
of
between
two
and
ten.
So
that
would,
I
believe
that
would
be
the
the
motion
would
be
to
align
it
to
this.
This
purple
version
between
two
and
ten,
and
that
drops
the
deviation
from
10.3
to
9.1.
B
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
really
get
to
one
very
basic
point,
which
is
the
threshold
legal
consideration
here
is
reducing
this
deviation
for
a
compliant
map,
and
this
change
reduces
that
deviation,
not
by
a
little
but
by
a
lot
more
than
more
than
one
percent.
1.2
percent.
Is
that
right,
chris?
Yes,
okay,
so
I
think
it
makes
some
sense.
It
certainly
for
the
reasons
that
comes
from
mayhem
articulate
about
communities
of
interest,
it
makes
sense,
certainly
the
historic
line
that
the
folks
are
used
to.
B
K
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
just
gonna
say
that
we
we
always
want
to
default
to
what
we
know
and
what
we're
comfortable
with
as
far
as
district
lines,
this
process
is
the
opportunity
to
reevaluate
where
those
lines
were
drawn,
and
you
know
some
decades
ago
lines
were
drawn
may
have
been
arbitrary.
There
may
have
been
some
reasoning.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
city
in
those
decades
and
if
every
cycle
we
say
well,
our
goal
is
to
keep
the
lines
where
they
are
in
all
boundaries.
K
I
think
it
it
provides
better
cohesiveness
between
the
districts
and-
and
you
know,
honestly-
I
don't
I
don't.
I
can't
it's
hard
to
look
at
the
numbers
on
the
fly
in
terms
of
balancing
the
numbers,
but
I
know
it's
doable
even
in
the
east
west
configuration
to
adjust
the
map
to
get
the
numbers
right
and
in
fact
there
are
maps
out
there,
including
the
one
that
I
proposed
last
week
and
the
one
that's
been
proposed
by
some
memos
yesterday
that
do
just
that
right.
K
They
they
bring
the
number
range
down
below
eight
below
seven
below
five
percent.
So
the
configuration
is
not
the
cause
of
deviation.
We
have
there,
there's
fixes
around
the
borders
that
can
fix
the
deep
that
can
address
the
deviation
as
far
as
keeping
school
districts
together
I
mean
that's
that's
why
that's
one
of
the
goals-
and
I
will
just
point
out
that,
because
of
d4
size
and
the
changes
in
d4,
I
have
four
schools
on
the
south
edge
of
district
four
that
are
now
split
in
half.
K
I
can
name
them
if
you'd
like,
but
it's
unfortunate
and
the
orchard
community,
which
is
in
one
a
single
school
school
district,
is
being
split
by
the
map
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
I'd
prefer
not
to
do
that,
but
I
know
that,
based
on
demographics
and
other
things
and
the
changes
in
the
city,
we
we
are
that's
an
unavoidable
situation
and
you
know
we
can't
make
it
be
a
test
of
ours
that
school
district
lines
are
always
the
boundary.
So
I
just
I,
I
won't
be
supporting
the
this
current
motion.
E
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna.
I
want
to
make
a
substitute
motion,
but
I
also
want
to
just
as
it
relates
to
school
district
lines.
I
mean
the
existing
lines
that
currently
exist
for
district
2.
District
10
already
have
schools,
that
are
in
say
the
oak
grove
school
district,
but
fall
into
district
10
or
schools
that
are
within
san
jose
or
schools
that
are
within
well
actually,
several
schools
that
are
within
oak
grove,
school
district
that
fall
within
district
10,
where
the
majority
of
oak
grove
school
district
students
are
actually
in
district
2..
E
Additionally,
there's
other
parts
of
district
2
in
which
we
have
actually
schools
from
morgan
hill,
unified,
and
so
so
you
know
just
the
I
think,
we're
grasping
for
straws
here.
If
what
we're
you
know
if
what's
mentioned,
is
school
district
boundaries
and
such
you
know
I,
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
making
any
decisions,
but
decisions
based
on
that.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
keep
the
east-west
alignment.
B
D
I'm
talking
about
so
kind
of
having
the
map
on
the
share
screen
is
difficult
because
we
can't
quite
see
or
manipulate,
I
think
as
easily
ourselves
to
kind
of
determine
where
there
may
be
some
ability
to
move.
But
what
was
most
logical
to
me
and
and
already
presented
in
a
map
was
this
far
west
region
between
d9
and
d10
and
so
I'll
ask
councilor
jimenez.
Would
you
would
you
like
to
maybe
consider
that
change
now
or
do
you
want
to
stick
with
your
motion
and
then
consider
it
later.
E
D
D
Sure,
if
that's
the
name
of
it,
but
possibly
right,
no,
no!
Now
it's
the
literally
the
far
west,
so
you're,
not
at
the
far
west
you're
at
the
north
northern
kind
of
west.
I'm
talking
about
yeah
that
corner
right
there.
No
district
10
is
great
yeah
that
that
area
there
there
was.
There
was
the
map
that
was
presented
by
councilmember
arenas
and
it
includes-
and
you
can
chris
if
it
helps
you
can
pull
up
that
map.
D
D
F
E
B
Councilmembers
for
whatever
it's
worth,
I
actually
would
have
been
willing
to
support
your
substitute
motion
for
a
clean
motion,
as
you
described
now,
we're
moving
boundaries
in
district
nine,
and
I'm
not
eager
to
do
that.
So
I
know
you'll
think
through
all
this,
as
we
continue
to
go
through
the
discussion,
but
I
would
prefer
to
support
a
clean
substitute
motion
rather
than
one
that
didn't
move
other
boundaries.
J
Yeah
I'll
just
make
the
point
quickly
I
mean
I
can
see
you
know
just
based
on
the
conversation
with
councilmember,
samantha's
and
cohen.
I
mean
I.
I
can
see
that
we
are
heading
toward
a
reorientation
of
east
west
that,
as
I've
said,
I
I
don't
support
and
the
primary
reason
just
to
be
clear
is
not
school
districts
or
anything
else.
It's
what
I'm
hearing
from
residents
right.
I've
heard
from
hundreds
of
residents
and
I
can
count
on
one
hand
the
number
who
have
said
they
think
that
the
east
west
split
makes
sense.
J
So
that's
what's
motivating
me
is
my
staff
and
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
the
northern
part
of
the
district.
I
actually
live
right
in
the
middle
of
the
district
and
residents
in
the
northern
part
of
the
district
who
I've
spoken
with,
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
outreach.
Don't
understand
why
such
a
drastic
move.
So
that's
why
I
don't
support
the
reorientation.
J
That
being
said,
just
you
know
just
based
on
on
this
most
recent
proposal
from
councilmember
peralta.
I
think
we
ought
to
actually
have
a
separate
conversation
about
how
we
address
the
population
deviation.
What
what
it
looks
like
we're
now
heading
toward
if
we
do
go
east-west,
is
a
small,
awkward
pocket
of
what
would
be
the
new
boundary
south
of
or
under
85
there.
J
That
would
much
more
logically
belong
with
district
10.,
so
I
would
I
would
anyway,
I'm
going
to
vote
against
the
east-west
switch,
the
substitute
motion.
I've
explained
why
I
don't
think
my
constituents
want
it.
I
haven't
heard
a
compelling
reason,
but
I
also
can
count
the
votes
here
and
see
where
we're
heading.
If
we're
going
to
make
that
shift,
please
give
us
the
opportunity,
then
discuss
which
neighborhoods
should
stay
together
after
that
change.
Thank
you.
C
C
District
9
is
under
populated,
and
so,
if
you
take
the
dartmouth
area
away,
that
just
makes
the
underpopulation
even
greater
and
affects
the
ability
to
do
anything
with
canoas.
If
that
is
a
consideration
of
this
council.
So
if
consider,
if
canoas
is
more
important
to
move
back
to
d6,
then
leaving
dartmouth
alone,
as
it
is
in
d9,
makes
sense,
because
you
don't
have
to
then
play
with
more
population
in
d9
in
finding
more
residents
in
d9
to
offset
what
may
happen
in
canoa,
so
council,
member
council,
member
jimenez.
K
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
something
similar
to
what
councilmember
foley
said.
I
think
the
discussion
later
about
where
to
move
from
should
happen,
but
until
we
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
the
other
changes
that
are
kind
of
could
cause
a
ripple
effect.
It's
hard
for
me
to
support
reducing
the
population
in
district
nine.
Until
we
know
what
our
goals
are
in
the
north
end
of
district
nine.
K
So-
and
I
was
the
the
seconder
I
think-
of
certain
council
member
jimenez's
motion,
so
I'd
prefer
just
as
councilman
mendes
said
in
the
first
place,
to
leave
the
question
of
how
to
balance
the
population
to
a
separate
discussion
as
and
then
and
just
wrote
on
the
orientation.
So
I
won't
accept
the
friendly
amendment.
E
Yeah,
let
me
just
say
that
listen!
I
appreciate
the
comments
I
I
think
of
the
spirit
of
collaboration
and
consensus
building.
Would
I
would
I
hopefully
folks
are
okay
with
this,
but
what
I
would
say
is:
let's
remove
that
from
consideration,
we'll
move
that
to
another
part
of
the
conversation
a
little
further
down
during
the
course
of
this
meeting.
E
But
what
I
would
just
say
is
that
if
I
want
folks
to
be
open
to
have
a
discussion
as
to
whether
we
need
to
increase
the
population
in
district
10,
not
necessarily
assuming
it's
going
to
come
from
district
2
and
trying
to
figure
out,
you
know
being
open
to
having
a
discussion
about
it.
Coming
from
district
9,
I
think,
is
what
I
would
like.
B
E
So
so
I
would
just
say,
in
that
spirit
of
collaboration,
we'll
I'll
retract,
that
I'll
retract
the
acceptance
of
that
from
councilwoman
perales,
we'll
we'll
leave
the
discussion
as
to
to
where
to
increase
the
population
for
district
10,
whether
it
be
district,
2
or
district
10
or
district
9
in
the
future.
During
the
course
of
the
conversation
we'll
leave
that
there
and
then
we'll
just
move
forward
with
the
east-west
alignment.
A
clean
version
of
this.
B
D
B
B
A
E
B
Okay,
so
that
motion
passes.
As
I
see
there
at
least
two
issues
are
still
unresolved.
One
is
dealing
with
the
general
deviation
challenge
we
have,
and
the
second
is
addressing
the
canoes
gardens
issue
and
I'd
like
to
ask
for
some
clarity
from
our
attorneys
just
to
make
sure
we're
all
clear
about
when
race
should
be
a
driving
consideration
in
redistricting
and
when
it
should
not
be,
and
as
I
understand
it
and
nora
or
mark.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
when
you
try
to
determine
what
is
of
concern
in
the
voting
rights
act,
I
assume
that
you're
to
look
at
the
district
and
not
individual
neighborhoods
is.
Is
that
correct
in
terms
of
determining
whether
or
not
you
should
be
addressing
this
threshold
question?
Should
race
be
a
driving
consideration.
L
B
L
Well,
there's
two
factors:
one
the
first
one
I
mentioned:
are
they
compact
and
large
enough
to
form
a
majority
minority
district,
so
50
plus
one
and
then
the
other
one
is
whether
there's
evidence
of
racially
polarized
voting
meaning?
Does
the
group
vote
for
their
candidate
of
choice
and
is
a
group
in
opposition
voting
in
opposition
or
for
another
candidate
of
choice?
Okay,.
B
L
B
And
I
guess
more
importantly,
as
we
look
at
the
two
districts
where
we're
trying
to
hash
out
where
the
canoas
gardens
would
go
district,
six
and
district
nine,
is
there
any
chance
that
district,
six
or
district
nine
could
be
a
voting
rights
act?
District
of
concern
as
any
boundaries
have
been
drawn
so
far.
L
B
B
And
while
we
might
conceive
of
communities
of
interest
that
have
racial
dimension,
that's
undoubtedly
true
race
cannot
be
a
driving
consideration
in
the
formation
of
districts
where
you
do
not
have
the
voting
rights
act,
issues
arise
and,
as
I
understand
in
districts,
six
and
nine.
Those
issues
are
not
present,
they're
present
in
other
parts
of
our
city.
B
So
I
appreciate
the
very
serious
concern
that
many
have
had
about
how
we
redistrict
in
this
area,
but
as
I
understand
it,
following
the
law
that
is
not
the
driving
consideration
race
is
not
the
driving
consideration
in
those
districts
all
right.
So
we
have
that
issue.
We
have
the
issue
of
what
to
do
about
the
deviation
overall
in
population,
and
so
we
can
certainly
take
comments
or
emotions
on
those
councilmember
cohn.
K
L
In
in
the
context
of
in
the
context
of
a
community
of
interest,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
historically
ethnic
neighborhood
or
perhaps
a
diverse
neighborhood
relative
to
all
other
surrounding
areas,
then
you
know
to
the
extent
it's
considered
a
community
of
interest.
Then
it
could
be
treated
as
such.
L
If,
if
couched
in
terms
of
as
a
community
of
interest,
then
then
that's
an
appropriate
consideration
under
both
the
charter
and
the
the
fair
maps
act
right
race,
however
race
and
ethnicity,
however,
just
can't
be
a
predominant
factor
in
redistricting
over
all
other
criteria,
and
so
to
the
extent
that
that
group
is
not
a
community
of
interest
and
race
is
being
used.
Then
it
could
be
considered
a
if
there's
not
a
vra
issue.
It
would
be
considered
an
impermissible
racial
gerrymander.
L
Community
of
interest
is
often
subjective.
It's
what
you
as
a
group
would
determine
to
be
a
community
of
interest,
but
it
does
have
to
be
related
to
a
particular
core
group
in
a
particular
area:
either
social
economic-
perhaps
they
just
can't
be
different
areas
of
the
city,
for
example-
can't
be
considered
a
community
of
interest
because
they're
as
together
so,
for
example,
a
neighborhood
on
the
east
side
and
the
west
side,
because
they're
far
apart,
even
though
they
may
share
similar
interests,
would
not
be
considered
a
community
of
interest
right.
Okay,.
K
And
then
the
other
question,
I
think,
just
for
clarification,
I've
I've
come
to
understand
that
you
know
there's
been
there's
been
concerns
raised
about
whether
some
districts
have
be
coming
to
having
too
many
white
voters.
There
is
not
a
in
fact.
It
is
compliant
with
the
voting
rights
act
to
have
to
increase
the
white
voter
population
in
one
district
at
the
expense
of
another
right.
L
That
can
be
permissible
if
being
done
in
order
to
comply
with
the
voting
rights
act.
You
can
under
populate
minority
majority
districts
in
order
to
reach
that
50,
plus
one
or
minority
influence
in
that
particular
district.
So
it
is
appropriate
to
do
it
if
you're,
it's
being
done
to
comply
with
the
voting
rights
act.
Okay,
thank.
K
G
G
It
wasn't
vetted
by
community
throughout
the
commission,
the
work
of
the
commission
and
so
and
it
was
it
so
so
one
it
lacks
that
community
input.
But
aside
from
that,
I
think
councilmember
cohen,
just
really
laid
it
out
nicely.
So
I
won't.
I
won't
go
back
there,
and
so
I
do
want
to
move,
make
a
motion
to
use
our.
I
think
you
called
it
our
ace
memo
boundary
so
that
then
it's
gonna
has
cosparza
boundary
for
d69
and
chris.
G
N
Thank
you,
councilmember
foley
and
I
are
in
a
brown
act
on
this
issue
and
we've
discussed
this
issue
at
length.
I
want
to
be
very
clear
to
set
the
record
straight
about
the
boundary
between
d6
and
d9,
as
we
had
discussed
it
with
the
council.
It
is
the
almost
exact
same
boundary
that
the
commission
map
had
almost
completely
identical,
including
the
canoas
garden
area,
which
is
really
three
areas,
and
it
is
not
majority
renter.
N
As
we
were
under
the
strong
neighborhoods
initiative.
The
only
consideration
for
what
on
the
map
is
called
canoas
and
almaden
and
farm
and
rubino
drive,
which
is
it's
a
strange
way?
It's
it's
denoted
there
but
is.
Is
the
population
was
compact,
sufficient
and
one
specific
school
where
every
all
of
those
people
attend,
so
that
it
would
be
a
very
easy
place
for
district
9
to
absorb,
as
opposed
to
lincoln
and
roy
and
cherry
and
dry
creek
and
bagby
all
being
absorbed?
N
And
I
got
many
many
letters
saying:
please
don't
do
that,
because
these
are
parts
of
willow.
Glenn
and
willow
glenn
was
at
one
time
its
own
incorporated
city,
and
I
will
tell
you
people
still
think
of
it
as
its
own
town
and
council
member
foley
and
I
both
live
in
willow
glen,
but
the
majority
of
willow
glenn
has
been
represented
by
district
six
for
many
years
and
they
have
their
own
schools.
N
There
are
actually
three
schools
in
this
area
that
would
move
into
district
nine
and
some
of
the
schools
that
are
in
this
area
have
attendance
to
the
north
as
well,
so
that
would
split
again.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
was
to
keep
with
the
commission
map
boundaries
as
much
as
possible.
There
were
some
a
little
bit
over
in
the
bagby
area
and
the
willowvale
area
that
district
9
needed
to
retain
again
for
numbers,
which
we
thought
was
important.
N
N
The
other
two
have
a
0.2
percent
difference,
so
I
won't
be
supporting
the
motion
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
what's
what
happens
with
willow
glenn,
which
has
told
me
repeatedly
with
hundreds
of
emails
and
I'm
not
even
exaggerating
when
I
say
hundreds
and
tony's
nodding
her
head
because
she
got
them
on
the
low
end.
I
will
say
it
was
over
200.,
where
the
request
was.
N
N
C
C
So
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
the
motion,
because
I
truly
believe
that
we
can
rep
that
district
9
and
our
staff
can
truly
represent
canola's
garden
farmer
beno
that
area
and
offer
them
some
services
and
advocacy
that
that
they
need.
The
other
thing
is
that
if
we
do
remove
canola's
gardens
from
district
9,
then
we
need
to
make
up
territory
in
district
in
the
willow
glen
area
and
as
council
member
davis
said
she's
getting
a
lot
of
emails.
So
am
I
getting
a
lot
of
emails
from
people
who
really
want
willow?
C
Glen
united
willow
glen
is
too
big
of
a
community
to
unite
and
historically
where
I
live,
one
block
south
of
houston,
which
is
the
dividing
line.
It's
been
that
way
since
I've
lived
in
that
house
for
31
years.
So
back
to
the
days
of
jim
bell,
he
was
my
council
member
on
in
d9
so
many
years
ago,
so
I'm
having
trouble
giving
up
canoas
gardens
because
I'd
really
like
the
opportunity
to
represent
them
and
believe
that
we
can
do
so.
C
J
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
council
members,
davis
and
foley,
and
I
I
find
them
compelling.
I.
I
also
think
that
when
it
comes
to
population
deviation
and
the
the
challenge,
we
need
to
solve
there
it's
down
in
district
10,
and
so
what
I'd
recommend
is
that
we
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion.
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
keep
the
district
6
district
9
boundary
where
it
is
as
councilmember
davis
has
just
so
eloquently
articulated
a
reason
for,
and
I
think
we
can
solve
the
population
density
issue.
J
Sorry
deviation
issue
in
district
10
by
moving
the
and
I
I
need
to
sorry
on
my
computer.
I
have
the
wrong
map
up,
but
there
is
maybe
we
can
put
it
up
on
the
screen
chris
chris
yeah,
just
under
85.
Sorry
south
of
I
believe,
that's
south
yeah
south
of
85
there
where
parma
park
is
and
I'd,
be
interested
to
know
just
population-wise
how
much
needs
to
move,
but
I
think
just
uniting
all
of
the
palma
park
area
there,
as
you
were
just
scrolling
over
under
85,
just
that
that.
F
J
J
B
G
E
A
H
A
B
A
H
H
H
A
F
E
F
E
F
F
E
E
F
E
Okay,
so
so
let
me
just
let
me
just
mention
that
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
not
interested
in
bringing
in
paul
mia
is
that
I
think
if
we
bring
this
section
in,
I
think
it
would
address
what
we're
interested
in
doing.
But
the
other
aspect
of
this
is
that
I
actually
live
in
palmia
and
so
I'd
like
to
the
extent
possible
to
stay
within
district
2.
Although
I
know
there's
there's
policies
in
place
to
prevent
me
from
being
essentially
evicted
from
district
2.
If
you
will
so
so,
that's
the
reason.
E
I
think
this
change
makes
more
sense
if
what
we're
truly
interested
in
in
in
addressing
is
that
deviation,
which
I
think
this
meets
based
on
what
chris
is
saying
and
so
so
mayor?
I
guess,
given
that
the
motion
has
been
made
to
bring
in
paul
me,
I
voted
against
it
can
do
we
need
to
reconsider
it
or
someone
on
the
prevailing
side
to
motion
and
reconsider
and
to
change
this
or
what's
the
way,
procedurally
to.
E
B
E
B
F
B
All
right
so
just
to
understand
better
986
people
move
are
in
metcalf
and
they
moved
to
district
10.
and
3090
people
a
voting
age.
I'm
sorry,
not
just
people
we're
just
talking
people
here,
3090
people
move
back
to
district
2
from
palmy.
Is
that
right
right?
Okay?
Could
I
make
a
suggestion?
Councilman
jimenez.
Do
you
want
to
perhaps
take
on
something
that
would
move
a
more
substantial
population?
B
E
E
A
E
Clear
clear
lines
that
would
be
helpful,
silvillar,
jokes,
so
kaiser
is
there,
where
you're,
where
your
cursor
is
so
I'd
like
to
keep
kaiser,
has
been
in
district
2
forever,
have
a
strong
relationship
with
everyone.
There
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
road
work
on
international
circle
on
and
on
what.
E
E
F
B
F
These
these
would
move
into
district
10.,
so
the
area
south
of
monterey
would
move
in
and
then
what
we
do
is
the
census
block
around
the
hospital
includes
both
populated
and
unpopulated
areas,
so
we'd
move
the
unpopulated
area
above
the
hospital.
In
this
little
shape,
almost
like
a
triangle
would
move
up
into
would
stay
in
district
2
with
the
populated
areas
this
area
here
and
then
down
south
along
85
would
move
into
district
10.
D
B
J
Thanks
mayor,
I'm
just
still
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
these
changes.
Frankly,
I
don't.
This
is
down
in
district
two.
I
don't
know
these
neighborhoods
as
well.
I
I
guess
at
this
point,
I'm
just
thinking
about
conic
continue.
Contiguousness.
Sorry,
I'm
tired,
contiguity
contiguity,
thank
you
and
compactness,
so
it
looks
a
little
funky.
I
think,
on
the
point
about
the
hospital.
I
think
we've
agreed
that
where
something
in
a
district
has
been
is
not
a
good
reason
to
keep
it
there.
I
think
that
was
the
very
premise
of
this
east-west
shift.
J
So
you
know
I'm
okay
with
this,
I
I
don't.
I'm
not
gonna
put
up
a
big
fight
over
this.
I
haven't
looked
at
the
demographic
implications.
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
cleaner
to
connect
the
boundary
all
the
way
along
85,
rather
than
have
a
little
neighborhood
there
on
one
side
of
85,
but
I
can
live
with
this
for
now
and
we'll
continue
the
conversation.
B
We
do
have
a
contiguity,
I'm
sorry
pardon
my
I'm
sure,
I'm
just
using
the
word
a
problem.
All
the
way
in
the
south
looks
like
an
area
where
nobody
lives.
I
I
could
be
wrong
on
that,
but
there
are
no
streets
just
to
the
on
the
on
the
far
right
bottom
corner.
There
you
see
that
parcel
seems
to
be
in
the
middle.
I
assume.
E
E
J
J
B
B
F
D
D
A
D
D
D
D
D
B
B
H
B
H
H
K
L
B
B
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
blair,
beekman
here.
Thanks
for
all
this
work
and
effort,
I
hope
you
know
with
all
our
current
law
enforcement
questions,
that
we
can
very
much
be
considering
the
ideas
of
of
reimagine
and
equity
to
better
address
our
law
enforcement
concerns
and
really
learn
to
include
reimagined
equity.
At
this
time
with
you
know,
the
ideas
of
pg
e
and
their
weird.
B
A
Ideas
at
this
time,
I
hope
we
can
rally
to
really
ask
them
to
not
work
in
those
terms,
the
same
with
the
cpuc
really
direct,
your
attention
to
cpuc
ask
them
to
make
changes
to
not
go
forward
with
pg
e
solar
ideas.
Basically,
and
to
conclude,
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
talking
about
voting
issues,
I
hope
the
future
of
council
agenda
items.
We
can
talk,
how
that
can
be
more
publicly
accessible.
A
If
we
want
to
talk
about,
you
know,
consent,
calendar
items
or
closed
session
reports
or
the
city
manager's
report
that
there
needs
to
be
a
statement
that
can
these
questions
can
be
public
questions
if
they
want
to
have
concerns,
we
have
to
work
on
accessibility
next
year.
Thanks
a
lot
margaret
mahl.
A
A
Okay.
I
just
want
to
thank
all
the
council
members
for
diligently
and
thoughtfully
working
towards
the
best
compromise
map
that
balances
all
the
different
points
of
view.
This
is
the
way
democracy
should
work,
tessa,
woodman
c
and
remember.
This
is
not
for
redistricting
comments.
This
is
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
Tessa
go
ahead.
A
M
A
A
Change,
this
is
that
this
is
the
change
it's
all
about
being
rich
and
that
they
want
to
have
a
nice
place
to
go
out
to
coffee
and
have
to
eat,
but
we're
not
dealing
with
the
people
in
terms
of
what
we
need
and
we
need
basic
needs-
is
food,
clothing
and
shelter.
We
need
to
start
growing
food
locally,
and
I've
been
saying
that
jill
borders.
A
A
It
brings
to
mind
that
until
we
actually
have
financial
reparations
for
communities
that
in
the
past
were
so
marginalized,
we
must
must
do
this.
We
must
support
this
any
way
we
can
and
we
need
to
find
ways
to
talk
about
it
as
a
city.
So
if
you
can
go
online
and
watch
some
of
those
proceedings,
you'll
find
them
so
amazing
and
right
on
point
to
where
our
city
needs
to
look
as
well.
Thank
you
alina.
A
A
So
actually,
I
would
suggest
moving
the
discussions
on
process
of
how
to
improve
commission
work
to
another
date
and
maybe
including
the
commissioners
on
a
charter
review
as
well,
because
we've
had
the
same
sorts
of
themes,
of
lack
of
clarity
on
process
and
how
to
best
to
engage
the
community,
and
so
I'd
really
like
to
make
sure
that
the
charter
review
commission
and
their
recommendations
get
the
the
spotlight
and
time
that
they
deserve
on
january
11th.
And
if
you
could
also
share
the
process
of
charters
and
how
things
go
on
the
ballot.