City of San Jose, CA City Council, 29 Nov 2022

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City of San José, California
City Council, Evening Session, November 29, 2022

Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
This public meeting will be held at San José City Hall and also accessible via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.

Agenda: https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=999878&GUID=CDB0A6FB-AC1C-4101-BF06-DB5E8796244A

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We're going to resume with uh testimony from the public and we have many people who want to speak, who are online as well, but before we do so I wanted to announce, because this is going to be a very late meeting. We all expect we'll be here till midnight, because we have several other items also to here, which are of significant controversy in the community. For that reason, I'm going to have to reduce the the public comment to one minute with apologies.

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I know, you've been very patient and waiting, but we have a lot of people who want to be heard and we want to make sure we hear from everyone. So thank you for your patience. uh Tony. Do you need to call roll before we start up again? Yes,.

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Jimenez president Morales.

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Carrasco Davis Esparza here Arenas here holy here, Mayhem.

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President, thank you, Tony. Okay, let's resume with public testimony.

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I'm gonna call names that I called before the break. um I did receive new cards as well. You guys will be called so for everybody who was not here earlier I'm going to call names first person, the microphone line up, say your name and begin speaking for two minutes. I have Jason one minute: sorry, one minute: Jason Kunta, Thai, Amy, Chow, Ellie Jasmine. Those are the names from before the break.

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Good evening, honorable honorable manager and SEO members today is another here: I encourage you guys vote for note on Noble site, because it is you can see there is it. The site is really close to the school and for the children. Safety comes first, please vote for no and do the right thing and the best gift election tells everything you you get to live in nightmare for us. You will have another election. Believe me, people have the power. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

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So my name is Jason, so I come here. Just I want to speak out, so I think it's either. One of the pro has a purpose of building the EIT and the cartoons station I think that's another. The right place to build the erh, so that area is a very high density of the population and always a lot of traffic jam.

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So I think is that not good and another thing is- uh is uh the largest for parking, so I use it to take my kids to Children's Museum and a high-tech, high-tech Museum. Tech Museum always parked there and took the lateral. So if we build this year, Edge so not enough parking, so very not convenient, so please reconsider it. So thank you. The city had to be responsible.

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Tom Wilson and Lori catcher.

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Hello, everyone I'm Ali I, want to see. If you don't live around the cultural area, you don't know the total Road environment very well. Cultural VTA parking lot is next to the 85 Highway entries. The entry is very busy in a lot of cars. It's not the red living place for human beings, it's very dangerous and noisy all the time people living there.

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People live in that tiny crowd. Parking lot can cause a lot of car accident accidents and it's very, very dangerous for both drivers and homeless. It's also very noisy all the time it makes people crazy and because a lot of health and the mental problems. If anyone agreed to build eih there, then please try and live there one week to see how you feel if you really care about homeless. You should find out thank.

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You next speaker.

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Hi, my name is Tony I'm here to against the building the tiny home at the mobile side. I'm just saying is: if I need to do something in my own house, I need a permit, but you cannot just build something in my backyard without our vote, so please consider for the safety and people leave at Noble side. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

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For over 45 years, reached two park has been deliberately planned: improved dedicated and used as a park consisted with four planning documents: the city Charter and the city's 2040 General plan. The first one is the County's 1977 penitentia Creek chain master plan. The second is the 1981 tri-party agreement between the city, county and Valley water district. The third is the city's penitentia Creek master plan for reach two and the fourth is the joint Trails project plan prepared and approved by the city and water district in June 2007 for Upper penitentia Creek reaches one and two.

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So please vote in support of preserving Penitentiary Creek reach 2 for now and forever. Thank you.

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Ankhart Lori, Stewart and Chris Logan come down.

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Hi, my name is Lori catcher I'm, a 20-year resident and taxpayer of District Six I am here with surge of Sacred Heart and supportive SOS and Rex also committees at Sacred Heart during the pandemic, I finally started paying attention to my unhoused neighbors and I began volunteering in Columbus Park for the past year and a half on Saturday mornings and getting to know the people who live blocks away from my home for those of us who have warm beds to live in at night and who have toilets and toilet paper to use.

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During the day, we don't have to think about those things. Every single day of Our Lives, eih housing gives people's beds to sleep in bathrooms to use and services that they Gravely need I'm in support of all eih housing sites, more funding for our city workers to provide services there and I also fully support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones, I'm opposed to any measures that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused neighbors, who are human beings just like those of us who live in homes. Thank you.

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Hi I've only called three names: I have a lot more people who are standing, I have Reese, Chris and Lori are the only three names that have been called so far go ahead. Hi.

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My name is Rhys enghart I'm, a member of Sergio Sacred Heart speaking, solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred. Heart I spend a lot of time in Downtown, San, Jose and I've had many friendly interactions with the unhoused people living there. I wish them well, I. Don't want them to be cold outside simple, as that, when we talk about unhoused people.

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Let's remember we're talking about actual human beings about our neighbors, so I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services and Outreach at all emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide these Services I support. The staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones and I am opposed to any measures that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused neighbors. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you next speaker.

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Hi, my name is Chris Logan and I am the organizing manager for Sacred, Heart housing, action committee and survivors of the streets? I live right near Santa, Teresa in Colorado, I believe it's in council member Foley's, district and I'm speaking in support of emergency interim housing and against demanding of encampment zones. I just want to say, first of all that every time an unhoused person buys coffee at 7-Eleven they pay taxes and at Sacred Heart. We believe that everyone is worthy of dignity and respect, and so unhoused persons are indeed normal.

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I've had the privilege of working with a committee of people who are currently unhoused or have unhowed owls experience, and we recently were able to win prioritizing housing for people with behavioral health issues. At the counting level, I've seen I've been astounded at the stories of these individuals. One of them has a PHD in engineering. Another was a lawyer. Another was a successful small business owner and so I believe that all these people need a chance at living and so I support the interim housing.

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Thank you, um Erica mendretta, Nicole, buccolo and David cerlick. Please come down yeah.

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My name is Lori Stewart I live downtown, I walked over tonight. It's cold outside I saw Samuel eating his dinner on my way he had his dinner resting on a garbage can I was glad to see. There was a flat top there. I know Samuel, because, along with Lori catcher I did not know her. A year ago, I also started volunteering at Columbus Park and he's there every week, along with 40, to 70 of his friends to clean the park, he works hard Patricia, who you met earlier she's down there, almost every Saturday as well.

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These people have changed me I'm here today to support all new emergency interim housing. I support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones, Eminem opposed to measures that would increase criminalization of our unhoused neighbors and please start picking up the trash again at Columbus Park. It was really depressing the last two weeks to see these piles of trash it's inhumane and unsafe. So please get it back there. It's amazing what happens when these people have a hand in cleaning up their own Community.

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It's an awesome place to hang out come join us on Saturday. Thank you. Thank.

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You next speaker.

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Good evening my name is Erica mendieta I'm a resident of Villas on the park. It is important for someone to have shelter that provides dignity and opportunity to live a normal life, and it also allows a healthier lifestyle. I. Ask that you please approve the motion. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

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Always, thank you, hello, hello. Everybody since U.S is a free speaking country I expressed my opening about construct, 10 house at VTA, a cultural parking lot. I disagree this progress program because I have two important reasons. First, I remember Fifth Amendment, say says a treat. Everyone is equal, putting too much Penthouse at Santa, Teresa and the cold Road area. This is not equal to resistance, a living item in this area.

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Second, I remember 15 amendment side: it says a suit protect property of citizens too many Penthouse located at the court Road and the senatories area is so they make. Thank.

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You next speaker, thank you.

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Your time is up.

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Hello, my name is Nicole buckalow and I work for path in San, Jose, emergency interim housing is a life-saving intervention and is critical is a critical step in individuals and families paths out of homelessness.

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These types of sites provide people with dignity by providing much more privacy and control over one's environment than larger congregate shelters at Evans Lane. We have been able to move people into permanent housing and other supportive environments at really high rates. Due to our strong team and emphasis on Supportive Services, we know that housing with Supportive Services ends homelessness. Permanent housing is still the long-term goal and the solution to homelessness, but our neighbors living unsheltered need help right now. This motion will be an important first step for so many San Jose residents.

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We sincerely ask for the council's approval today and we affirm the recommendation for a service-centric model. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker also come down. Anthony fan, Deborah St, Julian and Michelle Lau.

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Hi, my name is David cerlock from District three and I'm, a member of SOS, a Sacred Heart I have a PhD from Stanford University and I, suffer from mental illness and became unhoused I'm an example of the type of person that can be helped by more support for the unhoused community.

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I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more service and Outreach for all emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide those Services I support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones and opposed to any measures that would increase the criminalization of our own house neighbors. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you next speaker.

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My name is Anthony fan: I live in District 7. I'm, a member of the housing action committee at Sacred, Heart speaking in solidarity, SOS at Sacred, Heart I, live in a neighborhood with a substantial unhoused population. I've had the opportunity to speak to many of these residents, who could still not find stable housing. These people are hard working, they are passionate and they are resilient, but we cannot ignore the scenario that is stacked up against them.

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Many people have found their footing, but they still cannot climb the mountain that is, our housing inequality and lack of community Assistance I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services and Outreach at all: Community emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide these Services I support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones and am opposed to any measures that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused neighbors. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you next speaker also Lily Jen, Meyer and Catherine hedges.

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I'm Deborah, St, Julian and I'm in showing up for racial, Justice and I belong to Urban Sanctuary right over here. Your neighbor and I was a nurse practitioner at Kaiser for 14 and a half years next to Cottle. Okay, so and I want to say just yes to everything.

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He just said: I support your hard-working staff recommendations across the board and I want to say, as a person of faith, that I am compelled to see every person on the street as actually my brother or sister or my child, or my partner and I, can't just walk by him anymore and think. Oh, oh! Well, that's somebody else's problem. I want to I heard three things. First, parking I worked at Kaiser. Half of that thing was filled up with Kaiser people who parked there didn't take transportation and walked over I'm sure your people know this.

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Your staff that place is not full I, hear fear and I, hear your staff say you it's it's going to be less scary. If you have interim housing so yay your staff is right. It's not going to be scary. You know it's glitchy, sometimes yay.

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My name is Jen I'm, a voter taxpayer, SEIU worker, a member of surge in solid area with Rex and SOS I, actually live in D3 I am walking distance from eih and I would like to say that these types of housing make my neighborhood better rather than worse, safer, rather than more dangerous and I find the hand-wringing express tonight by folks in d10 and D4, two of the districts with the lowest amount of eih to be quite distanced from the reality of living uh in the district with the most eih beds, and it's fear-mongering to stereotype on house folks as dangerous when in fact most are simply people living with disability or chronic illness.

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Emergency housing and Supportive Services is good for all of us because it prevents crime and the kinds of disturbances that folks in D4 and d10 are worried about. It also is a moral imperative. We are taught to love our neighbors emergency homes and increased services are how we do. This I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services and Outreach at all eih Sites. Thank.

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You thank you next speaker also Robert, McKinnon and Sandra Harrison come on down hello.

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Everyone, my name, is Lily I, moved to this area, Highway 85, for about one year during this one year, I only walked outside about less than 20 times. The reason is that my house is under the airway. I can hear the noises of the cars I mean the police cars sometimes, and we often read news about theirs and say for some bad guy running around the neighbor, which threatened me a lot uh today. I only want to express my um threatening being a citizen of San Jose at that area.

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I I think when I, when I want to tell my friend or my neighbors, that I'm, a citizen of San, Jose I, want to tell them proudly, but I just cannot I think it's a very good action. That government should help everyone, including residents and host people we want to. We want to be nice, but I think there must be other good ways or better ways to do that to protect both Us and Them.

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Thank you. Next speaker.

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I repeat the stealth bomb of a vote you dropped on our community in June has robbed us of our summer and our fall. What makes this extra upsetting is that Noble Ave should have never been put on the table for consideration in the first place. This was preventable.

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The very least you could do to make some kind of amends, don't add, even more unnecessary and preventable stress by making our Berry as a community wait for another four or five months before you provide penitentia Creek reach to the protected open space Park status. It in fact, already has I want to add that you're never going to solve this crisis. Unless you stop using vague and umbrella terms like homeless or unhoused, you need to say people with drug addictions, people with mental illness, people prematurely released from prison people experiencing financial hardship.

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This is not one demographic thank.

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You next speaker, Elva Wilson, TIffany, Lee and Donna Wallick come on down.

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City council today is your big day today. Is your opportunity to take a big step forward in restoring the trust in your local government, I'm encouraged, knowing that you have been given all the facts about the noble site, officially named penitentia Creek reach to park, now that it's very clear to all of you that the noble site is 100 percent a park and should be protected from having tiny homes built on it.

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I'm asking you to restore the community's trust the communities trust we need vote to, remove the noble site from the eih list permanently now and forever. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

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Good evening my name is Elva Wilson, while I appreciate all the agencies here in support of eihc housing. I could guarantee many of you that those agencies have a lot to gain from providing these Services likely receiving a no bid or informal bid contracts same difference. I was a professional in Contracting.

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uh Most people here opposing uh Noble and coddle, um are here because it is an inappropriate site because it's an inappropriate site not because they're against housing homeless.

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It's an inappropriate site and pleading with you to have some sensitivity to the vulnerability of women in proximity to homeless. I was personally accosted twice two times, Alone by a homeless persons. One time exposing himself. Thank.

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You next speaker, please.

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Good evening as an alumni of toyan Elementary, School, Piedmont Middle and Piedmont Hills High School I have fond memories of running across the street to the 7-Eleven right as the school bell rang to grab a Slurpee before walking over to Noble Library, where I spent countless hours studying with my friends until my father, who worked multiple jobs at the time, could pick me up with the proposal of these eih homes. It's disappointing to think that my future children may never experience the same sense of safety and freedom that I felt after college.

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I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase my own home in the Berryessa neighborhood, where I could also be near my Asian parents during the midst of the pandemic, the need to maintain a mentally and physically healthy lifestyle really showed in that time, when people were so fearful to even leave the house, our nearby parks served as a place of Solace and refuge. The safety of our children, seniors and Wildlife should always be a priority vote, no on the noble site. Thank.

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You thank you. Canson Chu also um I have Catherine Hedges, who I called but didn't come down in case. You didn't hear your name um so canson Chu and Catherine hedges.

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Honorable Mayors and Council, my name is canceled. True I spoke in front of you earlier regarding to the noble sign on behalf of the various Union School District, to ask you to not consider building the tiny homes so close to the to the school and I'm here tonight to respectfully request you to permanently move, remove to this Noble side and also I believe the Commodore Parkside, as well as to be to Paris school district office side all of the list.

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So we don't have to come back again to to avoid our concerns regarding to to the the close proximity to our residents and the school. Thank you very much.

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Good evening Council, my name is Catherine Hedges and I'm, a member of showing up for racial Justice and I'd like to remind the audience and Council I'm. Sure already knows this: according to the city staff and the report, um I'm sorry I lost my place.

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There are probably 5400 till unsheltered individuals in the community. Housing queue, the city and county of Santa clarity's coordinated entry for housing and the most vulnerable individuals are prioritized some data on those individuals in a housing queue. 72 percent have a disabling condition. 50 percent or age 45 and older 36 have chronic health issues, seven percent are families are children, five percent are transitional, age use and three percent are veterans. Data from YWCA confirms a significant need for shelter and interim housing for survivors of gender-based violence.

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These are vulnerable people who will be getting the interim housing. The people in housing are overlooking the needs of their unhoused neighbors. Thank you very much. You. The council, need to protect the unhoused people and approve the erh. Thank you.

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Thank you. I have called all of the speaker cards for the people who, in the council chambers I'm going to move on to zoom. um If you did not hear your name earlier, just resubmit a card, um so moving on to zoom I have Jackie Hefner.

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Okay, thank you mayor and Council. um I am a 30-year resident of of District 10.. It used to be District, Two and I'm. uh Speaking to you today in support of the caudal VTA. I hope that you do approve what the housing department is suggesting. It is a wonderful location. There is no on-screen parking around there, which makes it easier for you to go around and to see that nothing else is going on. It is located next to shopping. Obviously, Transportation a hospital and the goal, if I understand correctly, is to get these done quickly.

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If you do not approve this uh site, we aren't going to see an eih and we're going to see people suffering I might remind you that Thursday we're experiencing a big rainstorm and lots of cold weather. Our unsheltered people are going to be suffering during that time, and we cannot not do something. We must step up and do something. Thank you.

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Hi, thank you um we're not here to talk about eihs or Aesthetics, or the social necessity.

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What we are here to talk about, however, is the suitability of the Colorado VTA eih as a district 2 10 resident I'm speaking here today on behalf of my family, as well as my late Uncle, who in 2021 was recovering at Kaiser before Contracting covet in hospital and passing away shortly thereafter, despite all of the safety and health precautions at that time, even if you feign ignorance regarding the negative impacts to our schools, Parks public transportation and Community congestion, if I had only one main point to make, it would be this using the rationale of covet to place a large eih facility directly in a heavily congested Junction, having constant ambulance vehicles and next to a multi-faceted hospital, is completely wrong.

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Borderline Reckless and contradicts the original.

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Hi, my name is nihar Agarwal and I'm, a member of race, equity and Community safety at Sacred, Heart speaking in solidarity with SOS at Sacred, Heart I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing in the staff recommendation for more services, Outreach at all, emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide those Services. Criminalizing homelessness has been shown to be the least effective and most expensive way of managing homelessness, which Echoes what those with the lived experience in Alice have been saying for years in San Jose.

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This isn't an unsolved problem. We know what works here. People with lived experience have presented real and Lasting solutions to the underlying causes of homelessness that are validated. Both data eih is help, and we know that housing is a benefit to our entire communities, lives hanging the balance here, particularly the lives of her most vulnerable communities.

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My name is Sophia I was born and raised in District three and I'm. Also a member of Rex at Sacred Heart speaking in solidarity with SOS I, grew up very low income. We were fortunate to have relatives in the city, but without their support we undoubtedly would have been unhoused many times over. Not everyone was as lucky as us, I think about my friends in school who live with their families in their cars and I.

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Think about how eih sites could have provided them with more stability and when I think about folks living on the streets today. I think about how terrible it is that people refuse to recognize you as a person with dignity to endure continual police, harassment and destruction of your belongings and to lose trust in a city that promises that it cares but has failed to deliver. Dignified housing.

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I am very happy to see sites developed in my district and ask the council to approve the eih sites presented today and the Stafford recommendation for more funding services and Outreach at all Sites. However, I am firmly against creating no encampment zones in our community. The implementation of no encampment zones necessitates the violence of so-called abatement. If our city is failing to fully meet the need of housing, we have no right to criminalize how people navigate homelessness. Thank you for your time,.

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uh Hello, my name is cassette Fitzgerald I'm from District 4 and I'm, a member of surge at Sacred Heart I support emergency interim housing for the city. This matters to me personally, as I've had a couple of young disabled, queer and trans unhoused friends who have struggled to stay safe, especially during the pandemic on House people are normal people and they are not inherent threats to Public Safety emergency interim housing helps our most vulnerable Neighbors at the multiple forms of support they need and we need to stop criminalizing mental illness and acts of survival.

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I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing, more services and Outreach at all eih sites and more funding for city workers and case managers to provide those Services I. Do not support implementation of no encampment zones and I do not support any measures that were criminalized on house neighbors. Like my friends, thank you for your time.

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Hi, um my name is Emma Hartung I'm in city council District, three I'm, a member of search at Sacred, Heart speaking in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred. Heart I just want to Echo what so many people have said that we know housing costs are Sky High here in San Jose and how impossible it is to find affordable housing um last year between 2020 and end of 2021 about 250 people that we know of died living homeless in our County.

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This is something, and that is a problem that you can only address with housing, um I'm asking the council to approve new eihs and to approve all staff recommendations for more services and Outreach at all. Eih Sites, including more funding for non-sworn non-police city workers, to provide those services and I strongly support the recommendation for no no encampment zones and I'm opposed to measures that would increase criminalization as well, so no abatement, no more policing, please just let people live safely in our communities, and that means more housing and less criminalization. Thank you.

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Okay, moving on to Blair.

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All right, Blair Beekman things to consider with this item. We have now good State funding available into the future. I hope we really want to organize ourselves and how to address decades-old housing problems like how San Jose housing staff can follow from beginning to end the Journey of the unhoused persons. They work with engines, interestingly, to try to shift the focus and instead consider the concepts of a state government NGO, sponsored encampments and in local hot spots.

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It may actually add an important degree of safety and organization to the future of local San Jose neighborhoods, when considering the future of vision, zero and city-sponsored encampments, state parking and housing planning, I hope all sites to be considered can be where the land is not considered as toxic, harmful, questionable or unlivable.

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To conclude, the many different housing ideas on this agenda item may also be offering a certain lack of human care that may be needed for the genuine unhoused concerns of this agenda item and that I hope we are all learning how we can all work together to better understand and connect the unhoused issues and needs, but they need each local neighborhood of San Jose thanks a lot.

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Hi, my name is Andrew Siegler, a taxpayer from D3 in San Jose I'm, a member of surge of Sacred Heart speaking, solidarity with Rex and SOS, and Sacred Heart I'm, a San Jose, Native I went to school here and I worked in Tech. However, doing parts of a mental health disability and some bad luck, I ended up homeless for five years, it's demoralizing to hear the unhoused referred to as those homeless, while the house you're referred to as the normal people. As I've heard in previous comments, we need to take care of our most vulnerable.

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We need to stop fear-mongering and get people in safe locations. I asked the council to improve, approve the new eih and the staff recommendation for more services and Outreach to all eia sites and more funding to our city workers and especially non-sworn staff, to provide those Services I do not support no encampment zones and then opposed to any measures that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused neighbors. Thank you. I yield my time.

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Hi, my name is Rachel Krantz I'm, a member of surge at Sacred, Heart speaking in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred, Heart I'm, a therapist and I hear stories from my clients who are unhoused, I, see the devastating impact of not having a safe, warm place to stay. I want to say: unhost people are normal, are working people and are taxpayers. This is why we urgently need more emergency interim housing sites in our community staff. Analysis shows that emergency interim housing is more effective than congregate.

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Shelters in connecting residents to long-term housing residents feel safe at the sites because they have a private unit. With a lockable door, I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing, more services at all eih sites and more funding for our city workers to provide those services.

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I am against creating no encampment zones and I am opposed to any measures that would criminalize our unhoused neighbors. Thank you.

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Hello, my name is Julia Mangione and I'm, a member of surge showing up for racial Justice at Sacred Heart. It is disheartening and disturbing to hear our San Jose neighbors this evening, using harmful language and fear-mongering tactics. We can always find a reason that a site isn't the right one. Meanwhile, our unhoused neighbors are suffering I want to uplift the point of view that our unhoused neighbors live without safety every day.

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If we value safety, including for our disabled neighbors, our elders, our families with children, our neighbors with chronic health conditions like mine, then we will support all new eih sites proposed by staff. Our unhoused neighbors, like all of us, deserve safe and stable housing.

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Now, for all those reasons, and the many many other reasons people have shared tonight- I'm here speaking against no encampment zones and in support of the Swift approval of all emergency interim housing sites and of more funding for service providers to deliver these vital life-saving services that increase safety and well-being for all of us.

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I'm, a number of social studies and I'm speaking of solidarity with SOS is very good part Kim.

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We can barely hear you pardon me, we can barely hear you.

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Okay, is that better? Can you hear me now yeah, that's better. Okay! This is the racial justice issues as a homeowner I recognize that the reason why my husband and I can own a home is essentially because we're one our generational wealth with people of color in this country has any purpose for you and systematically put out of products we're not hard-working filling us up by Urban.

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It's also was humanitarian unhoused people of humans they and they stop committing a crime by being poor, I asked the council to approve the measures presented by the people who might attack George Scott finally came on you, Sam Ricardo, for making no difference.

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In 2015 or 410 houses, five numbers now took 17 times, but to get this 56 percent increase, despite all the money thrown moving.

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We live in Palmdale.

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And Anita, we can't hear you.

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Yeah, that's better foreign.

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Hello, you're, very faint. If you can just talk about her okay.

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This is ketan Muni and we live in Palmyra for last 20 years we had an opportunity to listen to the staff from last week as to why they chose cotton side, and it was very interesting to hear the two things that are really flawed one is it stated that the VTA site is under utilized and that's why it's a good site for housing, the emergency housing and then the second reason was because the Safeway is next to it.

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So those two reasons do not give any reasons for a site that really there is a lot of opposition because of safety and not doing a proper, thorough work. There are other sites that are.

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Caller 3781.

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Hello, I'm John Burke and the long meeting so I just came back from I'm gonna get my car and uh I uh so I'm a little bit flemished, but um as a person of faith, I stand in solidarity with SOS, correct and I, asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services or for more services and have each at all emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide those Services I support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones and then we'll post.

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Any measures that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused, neighbors and i2m upset that people would say talk about.

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Hey this is, can you hear me? This is Linda um the city I'm a resident near the cuddle Road area. um The city should protect hard-working law, abiding citizens who may be housed or unhoused. This is where the city's budget should be directed to without about without abatement matters, incumbent bans and more more stringent interest requirements. Yeah each program inevitably attracts individuals who post public safety and health concerns and those who do not want to follow the rules.

AP

The cultural roadside is particularly bad because it's close to residential areas and it's within walking distance to schools and elder care. We as a society has an obligation to protect those vulnerable groups from individuals such as sorry also those vulnerable groups, such as women, child from individuals who post public safety and health concerns attracted by eih. For those reasons, I oppose building the Colorado site and I'll post the city's recommendation of no abatement Zone and no income Banks.

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AQ

Hello, my name is Raquel Welch I'm, asking you to support the housing for all the homeless. We must protect all all these folks that are so vulnerable, in particular, with this bad weather that we're going to be having soon I do support all housing for homeless. Thank you.

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AR

My name is Jonathan Fleming and I am a resident of South San Jose, the residents of South San Jose want a plan that makes sense and do not believe that any project should be approved which proposes to improve one Community by harming another caudal. Vta is vital to our working middle class and placing eih housing on a transportation site will place barriers to the use of ETA for ridership.

AR

Most importantly, my neighbors do not agree with this proposal and do not want it. Thank you, mayor licardo, for the recommendation of no encampment zones. Thank you, council, member Jimenez, for recommending the removal of eih at the Cottle VTA site. The current plan for homelessness is not working. Housing first does not work. Homelessness is getting worse and people are dying because our government is focused on failed methodology and refuses to look at other Solutions like those which house our military service members overseas.

AR

Please do not support eih at the Cottle San Jose VTA station and reevaluate the overall methodology we collectively employ to assist our homeless Community. Thank you. Picky.

D

Vicky hold on before you speak um people in the audience. They can't hear you applaud, so you will be cutting their speaking off if you're applauding, while they're trying to talk, go ahead. Vicky.

AS

Hello, can you hear me yes, hi city council, unfortunately, that was disrespectful for leaving and not listening to us, your voters when informing you why we should not vote. We should vote no for e-I-a-e-I-h at cuddle VTA.

AS

Let us focus on Fair distribution. Most of eia eih are con concentrated in 1.5 mile radius. Approximately 65 of these programs are located in 1.5 radius. We want Fair distribution. We are not saying nothing negative about homeless. We are saying to remove cuddle off the list. Kaiser employees and patients use it. The cuttle VTA is highly on a dense slope. No v e, I a on for cuddle Sandy.

AT

Yeah, my name is Sandy Perry I'm, an affordable housing Network, and we support the temporary quilt uh quick, build housing as long as we recommend as long as we recognize its limitations that the real solution is permanent housing. However, we do need these sites. We support the recommendation for Cerrone and Cottle Road. uh We especially support the staff recommendations to not establish no encampment zones and uh I've heard a lot of people complain about on House people, but what they're saying does not make to use a word. It's not common sense.

AT

That's a word we're using lately. uh The with the eihs people will not be unhoused anymore and especially I've heard a comment from a Kaiser worker complaining about fecal matter being smeared around at Kaiser. Well,.

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AT

About building bathrooms for people, this is going to solve a problem, not.

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AT

Problem, thank you.

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AW

Hi, my name is Karen I'm speaking in support of the Cottle site. I live less than two miles from Cottle and less than a mile from the two existing eihs I'm on The Advisory Group for the two existing eihs, which provides our community the opportunity to work with the the provider to have issues that they are responsible for addressed very quickly. I do think the communities will benefit from enhanced services in the areas surrounding the eihs.

AW

Often it's the issues nearby that impact the reputation of the eih and people to tend to blame the eih for problems nearby that often existed before the eihs went in so I am supporting both the caudal and enhanced Services. Thank you very much.

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Gabby Mendoza.

AX

Yes, ESO said to see you know and hear these comments: uh I'm, um Navigator and I work with the community and um and I'm off the track. So I just want to say that, for the record and uh uh at our office with Amigos de Guadalupe, we see families coming every single day. Looking for intern housing, these people will not go and steal your stuff. Do anything they're so busy trying to get the life together.

AX

People these people are community members, they're part of society they're, just like you and me, and everybody else that has a home there's lucky enough to have a home. Okay, understand that they're, not the problem. They we need, they have a problem, but we need to help them and you guys are not making it easy for the city to find these places, because every time you guys come and say no, no, no, not in my backyard that mentality needs to get out of San Jose. We all won.

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AY

Honorable mayor and city council, I'm David Noel, a neighborhood leader in District 9. I'm speaking in strong supportive mayor licardo and mayor, elect mahan's, memos I'm optimistic that we are beginning to turn the corner on the homeless situation in San Jose While. Most of the public comment tonight has been focused on a few specific eih and safe parking sites.

AY

Tonight decision also set Citywide policy in order to soften neighborhood opposition from future eih and safe parking sites who need all the sites to improve the neighborhoods they are in, and that includes site, appropriate buffer zones, areas near eih and safe parking sites need to look better and feel safer than they did without the housing facility. We need more success stories like the one we saw on the inspiring video this afternoon.

AY

We also need to leverage the human potential of the eih and safe parking residents in ways that build community connections and Resident resumes and ultimately, self-sufficiency. Regarding the caudal eih site, please ensure there is sufficient Transit parking. Thank you.

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AZ

Hello, can you hear me yes, okay, uh good evening, everybody thank you for giving us a chance. uh I am here. I am a resident of uh periasa, and my house is nearby the noble, uh Park and I'm here to tell uh David Cohen uh our representer to permanently remove Noble from the list of the Year age. I. Think the reason is forward. This is not a issue that the lucky ones versus the unlocked ones. This is the issue that the people versus the environment.

AZ

We need to take care of our environment and willing to take care of our park, to save it for the future Generations. So I encourage David Cohen to listen to the voice of the people in your district and make the right decision. Thank you very much.

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Zeke Sandoval also Carly come on down and ye Liao come on down. Go ahead, seek.

BA

Good evening, mayor and council members, this is Zeke Sandoval public policy manager with path people assisting the homeless path is one of the largest non-profit, homeless service providers in California and, as you know, we're the proud operators of the Evans Lane emergency interim housing site. We were so happy to welcome marilicardo and Maryland Mahan to the site last week and grateful for their support, as well as the consistent Partnership of our council member Dev. Davis. Let's be clear, housing ends.

BA

Homelessness, San Jose unquestionably needs more permanent homes, but emergency interim housing has proven to be a life-saving intervention, while more housing is built like the emergency interim housing and operation now and considered. Today, Evans Lane is staffed by our dedicated team of support staff to help our residents exit homelessness for good. That's why we've been able to move about half of our residents into permanent housing already and even more into other housing situations with more intensive support. We happily support this motion and all staff recommendations that Center Services. Thank you.

D

Okay, we still have hands up on Zoom, but I'm going to go to the in-person speakers and then we'll go back to zoom speakers. So again, I've got Carly, elao, whoever's first to the microphone come down and then Jesse Noble.

BB

Good all right, hi, I'm, Carly, Peach and I'm here, with showing up for racial Justice and I, am here in um I, didn't really prepare my comments, so I'm I'm here in support of interim housing and when I think about um implementing these, like no encampment zones, I I bike through San Jose every day to get to San Jose State from Diridon, and it really is so frustrating to see people being cleared out and know that they have nowhere else to go, and so just like it's just really devastating and I feel really hopeless for them and so yeah.

BB

Please don't please don't criminalize our house neighbors and please do build emergency interim housing for them. Thanks very much.

D

Thank you next.

BC

Week, hi, custom and uh councilman, that's a say to you: it's.

BC

Please check the data. You can see that.

BC

Your backyard to see her to show your your help. Your help for her. This is the second one. Education is the key for reduce the harmless reason so put more fun in education, a lot in the air. huh Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

BD

Hi, uh my name is Jesse Noble um I, don't have anything to do with uh the site, that's just a coincidence. Otherwise I'd just say go for it. It's on my street. Let's do it, uh uh but no I, just kind of feel like I, have a duty to give some perspective here, because uh I worked volunteered at Habitat for Humanity, um alongside mayor licardo, twice actually at the Mayberry site last year, like in 2019 I, think out in the rain, um and so one thing that I hear people complain about.

BD

A lot is like these big tech companies that are not doing their share and they're, not pitching in, um but I worked right there side by side with a different crew every day from like Google and Amazon, and you know, and Facebook and super micro and all these companies that send their employees to Habitat for Humanity and we were building those little tiny houses. So it's really just like good all-around.

BD

um Thank you. It's oh there's way more to it, but.

BE

All the request and reject the alternative recommendation to uh develop private Recreation, open space, I.

C

Think, you're speaking on different item, sir, uh that item will be coming up subsequent to this one.

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BG

Yes, hello. Thank you. My name is Laura Sandoval I work for path, the non-profit, committed to ending homelessness as the regional director, I oversee all regional programs, including Street, Outreach, and also services at Evans, Lane and interim housing community. Every day our Outreach teams see and hear the growing need for immediate Housing Solutions throughout the city. Expanding interim housing interventions will save lives, providing not only a safe place to stay, but also wrap around Supportive Services for people on their Journey out of homelessness.

BG

We have seen that housing plus support, ends, homelessness and improves quality of life. Permanent housing is still the long-term solution to end homelessness, but our unshiltered neighbors cannot wait. They need safe and dignified options right now. This motion addresses a critical need for San Jose residents, and we ask for the council's approval for these recommendations today. Thank you.

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BH

uh We are not against homeless. I want to be very clear. We are against the eih site at Cortel VTA. It is very unsafe. Even for the homeless people, there is a big offer. uh uh The lot is on a big slope on and off the ramp of 85, so construction for homeless, tiny homes will be very difficult. Also, there is only one walkway for the ramp on the Riders VTA, Riders and Kaiser patients. It is highly congested by six major intersections, so we are not against homeless people.

BH

We are against the I eih site for the uh parking lot at the Cortel VTA. Also, the site would be too close to the hospitals and daycares, so please reconsider the site is not safe for the homeless people. Secondly, Omar in his presentation said that the neighborhood was informed with three languages about this site. We were not at all informed. We were only informed.

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BI

Hi, my name is Ali saberman and I'm speaking on behalf of the housing Action Coalition and as a San Jose resident I've had a long history of Housing and food insecurity, largely due to domestic violence and I don't happen to be a dangerous neighbor, as some folks have said tonight, I'm calling in strong support of the staff recommendations.

BI

After hearing some of the vile things that have been said tonight, I wasn't planning on speaking, because simply this is a no-brainer, but after hearing clapping and about fear-mongering of the unhoused community, I felt the need to speak up. I just want to thank the council for your leadership.

BI

Unfortunately, a lot of the people here who are directly, who directly benefit from this program, aren't here to speak, but according to recent uh Census Data San Jose reports, nearly 7 000 unhoused individuals. So it's really important. We begin to house all of our community this it affects all of us. Thank you.

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Friendly Jessica and yangtzee first one to the microphone and please say your names, so we know which which card typical.

BJ

Hello I'm a resident in a noble area, so I'm here to against the noble side. First I want to be very clear now that we are supporting the homeless people, but Noble's eye is definitely not a good idea, because first, it's very close to school. We we do. We need to think about the safety of our children. The most important thing is the mobile side is a park. A park. I think that's very, very clear. Not it is a park.

BJ

So if we consider all of Nepal can be uh like e e, I h, house or homeless shelter. I I recommend the mayor to change all of the park to in San Jose to be for homeless, but I just want to emphasize that it's a really bad idea to build a eih house in Noble. It is a park. Thank you.

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Thank you next speaker.

BK

Good evening, everyone I'm appreciate your time. Thank you for all the support for these homeless people um I'm really think that building on Noble side. Thank you for the effort of buying points in our next Generation by building a lot of homeless site right next course to um like a school. The libraries I think those people is definitely going to give a perfect example to our next Generation. Hey. If you don't work hard, you don't. If you don't study, don't worry about it because your government is going taking care of.

BK

You is you're going to have a place to live. You don't have to work a study. You don't have to do anything. It's going to take care of you, but my question is: is this going to solve all the problems that you guys have and when are you guys money is not coming from? Nowhere is because people use the highs and jobs they create. Their money is, and is our tax money right? If nobody is working, they just live there in their house for free. How are you guys getting money through and soon?

BK

No later the government is going to losing all the funds. I know us right now. They have 30 trillions of deaths.

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BL

Ers trying to help those people in need. Well, this doesn't justify the rash decision to actually build a homeless shelter, just the nearest school yeah, so so, firstly, that is uh established Park and the city and Santa Clara water district. The house cannot like spend a million years and resources on there, and also this side is not convenient for homeless as well. So this decision is going to be a waste of public resources. I would urge you to reconsider the site, consent selection thanks.

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BM

My name is Donna Wallick I'm from District Two I am speaking in solidarity with everyone who is here for new emergency interim housing and for more services and Outreach of all emergency interim housing sites and for more funding and for our city workers to provide those Services, also against any no encampment, and also against any criminalization of the houseless. I am a caregiver. Before the pandemic, one of my clients became houseless. It took her almost a year to find an affordable room to rent in a house that was accessible to her during her houseless time.

BM

She stayed in airbnbs. This was disastrous for her health and severely impacted her condition. She was constantly having to move and could usually only stay in the same place for a week at the most every time she had to move, she had to wake up early. We would pack up her car and then wait for hours until she could move into the next place.

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BN

Hello yeah, my name is Chester and uh I just want to mention a few points here and uh regarding the ehi house and in the cathode VT the parking yeah and first of all, you know we are residential there and we pay the tax and we pay a lot of money on the build up the BT and about now you want to set up another Point yeah. This is the first one, the second one and like other people mentioned there, is a no Direction working with from outside.

BN

Go to that parking. So the intersection is a lot of the traffic. So if those people who live there got injured, who will pay for them right? We also need a paper that is unfair for the residents for the people who live there right and uh I. Think the San Jose area is so huge as a number tense of the large city in the in the United States I believe in the mayor and the city council member. You could find another place.

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Derek Morris.

D

I think we lost Derek moving on to Michelle.

BO

My name is Michelle Coleman I'm, a member of showing up for racial Justice at Sacred, Heart, I'm speaking in solidarity with survivors of the street at Sacred, Heart I, pay taxes, I pay taxes own a home and vote in District Six. While those facts make me fortunate and privileged, they do not make me more deserving of health and safety, or a warm and dry place to sleep or privacy or being treated with dignity as a human being, this project will serve the most vulnerable members of our community.

BO

These are our neighbors with disabling conditions with chronic health issues, including many older people, as well as families with children. These people in crisis are members of our community. They deserve compassion, they deserve to be treated with dignity and they deserve to survive. I asked the council to approve the.

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BP

Yeah hi, this is speaking.

BP

um There was a story about Chris which was really heartwarming. Let me tell you a story of said: it is a young adult with high functioning autism. He gets up at 5 15 every day takes away the a 24 miles to go to work and then comes back taking two vtas. He was doing this all the time until the time once when he was attacked by a unhoused individual in the City metro station, he since then he has refused to use VTA.

BP

The reason why I'm saying this is that and of course he also pays his taxes. He pays a very little of his taxes because of what he earns is is is not that much. The reason I'm saying is that for every story, there's another story for us to tell, and so this is not a cause. That only is taking the heart speeds off. This is a cause for all of us. We don't really look asking you to look at the data and don't Gaslight the individuals that are opposing the total side as somebody against homeless.

BP

BQ

Hi, my name is Nora and I'm in District 3 I'm, a member of Sacred Heart, speaking in solitary with Rex and SOS at Sacred, Heart I live near 13th Street and it's heartbreaking to see the number of unhoused Neighbors in the area. My young daughter asked me about the people she sees and the tents they live in and I have to tell her. The community has not yet stepped up to take care of each other. As the presenter stated emergency interim housing is good for all of us.

BQ

Emergency interim housing helps us care for our most vulnerable neighbors and it's a win-win. Many speakers have discussed concerns about safety, but the data showed that in the majority of neighborhoods, where emergency interim housing sites were open, neighborhood conditions stayed the same or improved it's traumatic. To create new encampment zones. It doesn't help solve homelessness. We need to work as a community to repair systemic wrongs that have led to this current crisis and we can't turn to criminalizing homelessness.

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BR

Hello, can you hear me? Yes, uh okay, um let's see here.

BR

uh As you know, so this site is important to to the to the noble community.

BR

um We appreciate this Unique Park, uh due to its natural characteristics, for the community to enjoy I appreciate, uh councilmember Kohan speaking up that this is a park and I appreciate the other leaders also uh from varies uh speaking out. The concerns for the school district and um I I, just wanna, uh speak out against putting these sites near schools and uh replacing parks with them uh I'm interested in hearing uh how what the other agencies have said about these proposed changes.

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BS

Hi hello, um my name is Nicole and I live in District three and I'm, a member of surge at Sacred, Heart and I'm speaking tonight, in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred, Heart, um so I'm fortunate enough to have a safe and stable place to live and I've never been unhoused.

BS

This is not because I'm particularly hard working or deserving it's because I benefit from White Privilege generational wealth and pure luck, um but for today in fact, I didn't even know that I live in the district with the most emergency interim housing living near eih has not made me less safe. It's had no negative impact on my life, um but as you've heard from other speakers tonight, eiah is life-changing for our unhoused neighbors. Everyone across all of San Jose deserves a safe place to live.

BS

So I asked the city council to approve new eiah and more funding for our city workers to provide those services and I support. The staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones and I oppose criminalizing our unhoused neighbors. Thank you.

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Jeffy Costa.

D

Okay, moving on to caller one three, two four.

BT

uh Yeah, this is Paul suffer from a horseshoe I think we need a historical perspective in order to really understand what we're looking at now in the 1940s we had camps, we had people living in tents in South sequedes. 80 years later, we still have people living in camps. This is a moral and ethical issue in the character of San. Jose is at stake right now, so because I hope, the council fills the heat, because the moral and ethical character of this city is at stake.

BT

Racist and crisis policies have continued to perpetually generationally kept people in tents. This is a moral issue and if District 4 depends on being reelected, I already know, he's going out, he's going to vote, he's going to make sure that Noble is canceled, but for the.

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BU

Okay hi, my name is Vicky I'm living in the neighborhood near to The Cult of ADA station I support to help the homeless people with sheltered places to live but I'm against and to say no. The tiny house is at Koto ATA station, particularly the station is near to the community facilities like school and the Santa Teresa Library I always walk to Santa Teresa library, with my kids when he's two years old and the other is five years old. I cannot afford any safety risk in this area.

BU

As a mother for my kids, considering the increased safety risk, I dare not to take my kids to the library. It's not fair for me for my family and for my neighbors as residents in San Jose, and also against the people who don't live in this area to say their support today to this program because it's unfair to the residents living nearby.

BU

It happened to our neighborhood at the end of the October.

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BW

Can you hear.

BX

Me yes, yeah! Thank you. Thank you for the council number to uh give me opportunity to say um so, as a resident in the noble side, I'm strongly against using the noble side as a homeless, Camp, so um I think that should be a better choice because um for the residential area and libraries or schools, those definitely are bad ideas and it's creating potential um harm risk to Residents around them and also I notice. A lot of people, who's working for the organizations or for the agencies are speaking tonight.

BX

They don't represent the residents in the area, so stop using your idea and forcing the ideas to the residents around. Thank you.

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Topher foreign.

BY

Yeah I'm a resident of South, San, Jose and I'm, not from Sacred Heart or any other agency imposing their Politics on other communities. I strongly oppose the eih at the cattle location. It's dangerous for everyone. Traffic is already highly congested in the area and it's very dangerous to cross the road in a car, let alone on bike or on foot.

BY

There are plenty of surrounding areas that can offer far more amenable solutions to folks, there's also been no mention of management for crime or disruption that can will inevitably be brought to the area and can already be seen by regular incidents in the nearby shopping areas I like Target and Safeway. uh These these issues will only increase the danger to our area for our families and our children, and we need shelters, but not by imposing them upon neighborhoods at any cost. Thank you.

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BZ

Hi, my name is Austin um I've lived in Palmyra district 10 for over 24 years and I strongly support the eia check. Auto VTA many of my neighbors are concerned about safety and I'm. A current graduate student in public health and Rising medical students. So I want to give you all some evidence in 2018, a study by the guardian found that in both Portland and Seattle, tiny home sites were actually linked with a 31 average decrease in community crime compared to before the sites were built.

BZ

Dr Elios Cohen at UCLA found that in 2021 now within 18 months of providing homes for the unhoused communities, crime rates decrease emergency department, visits decreased and employment rates in the community actually increased. So this just demonstrates further that providing for people's basic needs, specially done house reduces crime and improves the community and its safety long term, which we already saw in some of the slides, are presented earlier. This meeting with the decreased police calls and fire fire department calls. So thank you. Thank you.

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CA

Hello, hello, yes, I assume, that's me um uh really quickly! um Well, you know. We talked about the open space areas, Penitentiary, Creek and stuff, open space areas, environment areas provide important access to less less privileged areas, areas of the city who otherwise might not have access to travel to such places. Further away, these Airlines provide vital access for.

C

Children I I, think you're, probably calling in about a different item.

CA

No, this is about that. Well, unless you're only solely on the caudal Road area. Is that what are.

C

You I'm sorry I thought I heard something about open space. Well,.

CA

I'm talking about you know you penitentia Creek was on your list right. um Okay, thank you, and those in that area. um That's uh that's in an area that doesn't have access to that. That's important educational stuff for those families and those kids, and it needs to be leveraged better.

CA

um You know we have lots of pay varies over in the city which are near vacant buildings. We have land owned by large businesses and companies which have been purchased for future development that remain unused. Many of these areas have been denaturized in order that there will not be any eir issues when the time comes for them to develop the land. We could leverage that and use that land uh for for these uh kind kinds of uh housing.

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CB

Hi good evening, Camp, mayor and council members, I'm Simi Jose residing near cartel VTA and I am a registered nurse working at Kaiser I'm. Speaking on behalf of my one of many healthcare workers at Kaiser, I, first of all, I would like to say: I am not against homelessness, but we are against the proposed eih site at Cordell. Road I am staying beside The Cordial, roadside and I need to walk back and forth from work to my home. Some nights I have to be on car and I do not want to feel unsafe or risk.

CB

My safety at night, please consider removing eih from Cottle Road. Please consider Fair sharing of eih distribution station is the one of the busiest Transit Village in San Jose.

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CC

uh Hello, could you hear me as uh um good evening mayor and the city council so um I'm against using the code of VGA station as the year at home site, so actually I just off the 85 highway I using the highway only only day to go to work and and go home, so I feel it's very unsafe to use it as the side for uh eih home PSI.

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BV

Oh hi, um my name is salvi. um I live in the neighborhood I live here for almost 24 years now um my work is at not trying to say I I take a light rail. Quite often uh there are two things I wanted to mainly uh highlight today. uh Basically some of some Sacred Heart people from Sacred Heart. They were highlighting the safe aspect of eah, but that is that is going to be my main concern here.

BV

That site is not safe for uh homeless people, mainly because of all the runs um did there are for three ramps with no pedestrian Crossing. I I walked that road up and down many times every time when I cross that run I have to be extremely careful. uh I need to make sure the cars are not coming so fast and putting people with mental health issues or or someone with the drug problem right in a busy introduction. I feel it is totally interesting.

CD

Hi, thank you for giving me such an opportunity. I'm a 20 year, restaurant in barasa, people who support the eih tonight didn't realize that we are not against the homeless. We don't disagree with building shelters for the homeless. We are against building the units in the noble side because it is a park.

CD

It is near the elementary schools, libraries and Water Resources people who support ERS should help to create a list of eligible sets that are away from children, libraries parks and Water Resources, because children are our future parks and Water Resources should be protected under California law. Thank you. So much.

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CE

Hey uh this is should be done. I am a resident of South San Jose for the last 20 years. I would like to request the city council to reconcile the decision um of the quarter VTA, as the community was not communicated at any any any point in that decision-making process. We would like to receive the facts. We would like to receive the data before uh proceed. Proceeding further on this. Thank you.

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CF

Hi dog good evening, uh everyone so firstly, I want to make it clear: I'm, not against the eih I, like the idea, I'm just against putting it at the noble site. People have been against at this side for the entire half years since day. One reasons you know too close to school occupying Parkland. You know Water Resources I, don't want to repair them, but people have I I just want to say that people have been putting a lot of effort finding out negative sites which was What, er H office asked us to do um I.

CF

Think we found like 35 alternative sites, I personally I personally visited foresights in District Four. During my work hour, I was lucky out. You know my manager didn't catch me and uh anyway, so I think uh even you know yeah office after so many studies. It's recommending removing you know um Noble side from the list right now. So please consider you know just choose a better site to serve this yeah age project. That's going to benefit everyone! You know better. Thank you.

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BW

Yeah, so my name is Kate and I live in the beautiful Noble neighborhood, with my husband and my daughter. We also expecting a new one, so we support the erh but to choose the right side, not on Noble I want to point out one thing that I noticed tonight. So many people from the other SOS agency said we criminalized that on House people, which I don't know.

BW

How did they come out with that idea, which is totally not true, nobody's, saying all the house, people are criminals, but in the fact is high percentage of them are they use drugs? They have criminal records, which is not safe for the schools, libraries and all the neighborhood I personally donated clothes money blanket toys every year to help people, but I just cannot risk my own family. My children's safety to support this Noble site, which is absolutely a joke, and also this is so far from the convenience store grocery store.

BW

I, don't know who how you guys help with.

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CG

You didn't even count so it's Alex Shore with catalyze SV. You know our members frequently advocate for affordable and permanent Supportive Housing sites. We didn't have a chance to look at these, but I believe. If our members did, they would say a very important point, which is there are no perfect sites, or maybe there are very few perfect sites, and yet there are also very few sites in our city where we can find this type of housing.

CG

That's why it's so hard to find it. That's why it takes so many meetings and so much discussion, and so with that in mind, we really need to move forward with building as much permanent, supportive and interim housing for folks as we can. As we always say, the only solution to homelessness is to build more housing, and that includes all of the folks who are concerned or opposing this project. This is how we solve it. If you don't want homelessness in your community, then allow housing in your community.

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Okay, Carol.

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BH

Oh, can you hear me.

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BJ

Ahead, can you hear me hello? Can you hear me yes,.

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BJ

Okay hi, my name is Carol I'm, a resident in the Berryessa area for 15 years, I, totally supported EHS, but I'm against the idea. I'm building ehis on Noble side Noble set is a park for many years. People close by are enjoying the park. The kids from Noble Elementary and Piedmont Middle School go there for PE classes and also learn about the nature about the wild animals, and even the various School District Union is totally against to build the EHS on mobile site.

BJ

So here we respect you to ask the city council: please do not destroy the park and listen to the voices of the residents from this area and please choose a better side and vote no for Noble site. Please reconsider! Thank you.

CH

Can you hear me yes, hi? uh My name is madhukar thakur I live in District 10 uh within less than a mile from the Carter Road VTA station I am far I'm supporting getting the homeless into EHS eih housing. However, when we say the community should take care of the homeless, I want to define the community as the entire city of San Jose, all the districts in the city, not just District 2 and 10.. uh It's known that within District 2 and 10.

CH

Together, these two District house, 63.8 percent of the eih units, are planned to house that much percent, so that I want to make sure that we share as a community of the city of San Jose. We shared solving this problem and not this focus on districts, 2 and 10 having to solve this problem on their own. Thank you.

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CI

Hi, my name is Emily I live in District, Six and I'm, a member of surge at Sacred, Heart I'm speaking in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred, Heart I have to say it just really really hurts my soul to see us. The citizens of San Jose ignore the needs of our most vulnerable neighbors and emergency interim housing is what's really good for all of us.

CI

We need more housing, not the criminalization of Van house, so I strongly urge the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services and more funding for City staff to provide those Services. Thank you.

CJ

Hello good evening, my name is Jeffy Costa I'm, a member of the San Jose Unified, Equity, Coalition and I'm, also a resident and voter of District Six and I'm speaking in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred Heart. Our Coalition supports the safety and wellness of students and young people in San Jose and far too many too.

CJ

Many of them experience homelessness right in our city, so I'm calling in to support new emergency interim housing, I support the staff recommendations for more services and Outreach at all emergency interim housing sites and more funding for our city workers to provide those services and I support the staff recommendation not to implement no encampment zones, I'm also calling to oppose any measure that would increase the criminalization of our unhoused neighbors. Thank you.

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CK

Hello, can you hear me yes, okay, good evening, council members, my name is Maggie, so I want to express my opinion called VTA parking lot is not a proper site for eih2 site. It is a Highway constitution in between entrance way to Highway 85 and the lighter Rail and Highway 85.

CK

after hundreds of new apartments and houses were built on call to Road next to Highway 85. Every morning when I drove my two young kids to school, the road to Highway 85 has a much heavier traffic than several years ago. So I read everyday. We have to get up earlier to make case be on time to school. Traffic will be worse by moving more people into the community.

CK

We also have safety concern. Just to the north of the proposed VTA side is Village Oaks Shopping mall. It has silver Target and many other stores.

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CL

Good evening my name is Sandra Asher I'm, a 20-year resident taxpayer and voter in District 10. I am also a member of surge at racial surge at Sacred, Heart and the Rex committee. Please trust your hard-working staff's proposal and approve all eiah and vote against the no encampment zones. We consistently hear that homelessness is the number one concern for San Jose. How can we possibly solve this problem? If every proposal is opposed, stop criminalizing mental illness and saying they are dangerous? My mother and my son have significant mental illness.

CL

I assure you they are not dangerous to anyone other than themselves. Folks in eih are not homeless anymore. They have shelter, water bathrooms and support to get them into permanent housing. Every speaker tonight who lives near an eiah has spoken in support of this project. Please listen to them. Thank you.

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CM

Emily, yes,.

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CM

CM

Address for sure we're not taking it yet, but we do believe that it should be taking into consideration that um so that communities in the San Jose it could be all the.

CM

CM

To put the sites uh nicely that that evenly, that would be a better solution. The other thing to consider over here is that moving people into a busy area is the good idea or not right and look into other Solutions uh around the.

D

D

Nat I see you're unmuted, but we're not hearing you.

D

Okay, now we we're not hearing you I'm going to um move on to the next person. If you fix your audio, then raise your hand again and we'll call on you again s s.

D

I see you're unmuted, but we're not hearing you.

D

Okay, I'm going.

CN

To do the same thing, my my name is Sami and I'm from District 10. I'm here to provide you some details regarding the homelessness site which has been proposed on the uh penitentia Creek. The the cases that this particular Park is an open preserve, which has been utilized by the by the locals, close by as an open Park um as well as there is proximity to three schools and um and a library um considering this, that there will be eih or so on at this particular location.

CN

I think it would be even you're putting even them at Harm's Way, because there are no close by uh convenience stores. There is no way you can house them properly and the it is very easy for City to say that it will be. There will be reduction in crime or so on, but we would like to understand that more deeper before this assessment is made.

D

Lily and Teresa um in person Lily come down to the microphone Teresa line up behind her go ahead.

CO

I'm Lily I live in the uh around the Carter in the Premier area, I'm, not against the edge but I against the eih built in the Catholic uh a card roll station because you know around so many residents and evil they have a child. Have daycare has a hospital over there, so many people is dangerous and also I want to share. Is a you see?

CO

Oh, it's not the share very clearly and there is a lot of good communicate with our residents and live over there with just a little like a week ago, but in two days we have almost 1400 people to sign the petition. I think all the city. You can see that one in two days in the holiday in the science gaming day, we we don't have any sense of gaming. There, everyone working together when we know that it's not good for our communities. We have so many children live over there.

CO

Every child have the you know: go to have high school. Have the you know, Elementary School have the you know the daycare. So please consider for that. You know. If you, you know, the pictures cannot shift.

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CO

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CP

Council members, my name is Teresa from District 4. I'm here to object, a building the tiny house at Noble sites for three reasons: one it's in a place just across the elementary school middle school and a library there are bigger concerns of safety issues, the second it's a park and a reserve for people Recreation.

CP

The third reason: it's not an appropriate place to build a tiny house from homeless people, because it's not a close to the public transportation, not close to the supermarket, not close to any Social Service. Therefore, for the reasons about honorable council members, please consider to permanently remove the noble sites from the list. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

BI

CA

CQ

I hope uh you know homeless, but I I think we are against. You know, building the place in near Kato parking uh place. There are a lot of you know. Neighbors already mentioned uh before me.

CQ

um I think we should consider the uh you know Community uh already residing there and not put like a pain forced on the local residents we wanted to build. Can you guys move to like further like places actually not established like the the south south side? You know even um I mean you know you can bus people I used to work. You know to make a living I drive two hours every um you know every day. Just try to you know make my own living I. Think you you should.

D

N't be a thing.

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BJ

You hear me: yes, uh my name is hyen I'm, a resident of baryasa area for 15 years and my voter for more than 20 years, um so I'm here uh just try to express my opinion, um I'm a working mom with young kids. So my concern really I I love to help homeless people when I saw them on the street I, always land, food or money. However, building the quick, so-called quick build, Center or you know the emergency house in the Berryessa area or in a noble area.

BJ

It's not uh it's, it's not right and I hope we can vote no for it, because there are three School nearby, and this is a park for kids to have PE class for seniors to uh to work. Work by you know on the daily basis, um so I don't know why we have to sacrifice our seniors and kids life to uh to to for this. Just you know, and also it's a call, it's the program itself. June.

CR

Hi, my name is I'm actually uh abroad, but I'm, a residence of noble area and I'm against building the site that Noble um well. So when the Titanic was sinking who were allowed to enter the Lifeboat, the rich, the pope or the homeless, no, no, no, no, no! It's women and children, because humanity is all about next generation and Legacy. We knew that over a century ago, I'm just surprised that, even nowadays in the center of the universe, Silicon Valley, we don't know about that.

CR

We're giving our way to homeless, sacrificing our children, who is a sense of normal person or even consider building hundreds of homeless tiny homes within walking distance of not only one but several exclusions. Is it because not your kids that you're screwing with well? If that's the case, remember that Noble Community will fight you, because you're screwing, with our most precious thing in our life.

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CS

Hello, my name is Todd I'm, a resident of District uh District, Four and I just wanted to State my objection to the noble to the noble site as a eih location.

CS

um I owe it to council members to consider publicly removing from the list and make it apart. Thank you.

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CT

It when I called your name, can you hear me hello? Okay, can you hear me? Okay, yeah, okay, all right, hey, my name is resident in Coral Road uh I object, tiny homes, so I'm concerned about this safety. I have three small kids and I'm worried about it, and there is schools around this area and then my second concern is why all these tiny homes are moving to South San Jose. There is like more, you know, locations like more slot on this small radius I'm concerned about that too. Why?

CT

Why can we just spread it out? uh The third concern is like people who is not living around this area. Is you know um not around the city? They are making comments. They are like more favorable why they are not even living around this area, so I'm concerned about that too. Thank you.

D

I, don't know if you heard me Kunta, yes,.

CU

Can you hear me now, yes, yeah, my name is Kunta Thai I live close by Caro VTA station for 22 years, so a question for supporter of eih at Karo, VTA I noticed most of them. Don't live here like I. Do the question is: do you support reducing carbon footprint and mass transportation in the city? If your answer is yes, you should both know for eiha cargo VTA, Carlo VTA is a park and ride station. Someone claimed the parking lot is in low utilization, which is false.

CU

Clan I have historical satellite image to prove that and during pretending time the parking lot is more than 70 full. If the eh taking away 50 of the parking space, where are those three people think are going to park? Putting a yatch next to Vita parking is a ridiculous idea, a totally defeat, VTA Park and Ride purpose who want to park their variable vehicle next to the encampment with few people, riding video more car will be stuck on the highway and the city will ask for more.

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CV

Hi, my name is Sigrid from um Santa Clara and I'm, a member of surge at Sacred, Heart, I'm speaking in solidarity with Rex and SOS at Sacred Heart um regarding eih psych sites, we've had similar conversations in Santa Clara uh Community can't wait until we have a perfect site that works for everyone. If we want a perfect location, eih is never going to happen. Unsheltered people are already members of our neighborhoods, and so the way I see it.

CV

I have a choice to support shelter even in my backyard or lead these Neighbors unhoused in my backyard. So why wouldn't I ensure that as many people as possible have a roof over their heads?

CV

I asked the council to approve new emergency interim housing and the staff recommendation for more services and Outreach at all emergency and interim housing sites. Thank you. Jeff.

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D

Okay, moving on to Vera.

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BX

Hi go ahead, oh thank you! So I'm a resident in the noble sites and uh I'm strongly against um allocating this eih around the libraries and the schools, uh because it's we don't feel safe. So basically it's we don't feel safe. It doesn't matter what you say, but we don't feel safe for the resident around it. So please consider the residence idea I heard so many people are from Sacred Heart or some other agency and they are reading similar transcripts so who organized you to speak for the resident or you speak for your organization?

BX

Are you taking any benefit from this? How do I know so? For my in my opinion, you don't speak for us and we want the councilman to listen to the resident who doesn't feel comfortable with such arrangement. We are not against homeless. We are against this arrangement. We need a better solution. Thank you.

D

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D

Hello hi go ahead. All.

CW

Right hi, my name is Natasha I'm, a new teacher and someone who has grown up my entire life in District 10 I've, been living here for the past 25 years.

CW

um I never knew the severity of how the home situation was in District 10 until I went to school in Downtown, San Jose district 10 residents have no idea what the severity of this issue um I have taught. Kids that are homeless, I have had friends that are homeless, I've had professors that were homeless.

CW

When you were saying these people uh you're denying these people housing, they are regular people who are in our community that are just trying to get by all of us who work these jobs that don't make enough money are at risk from one or two bad days to end up becoming homeless. I stand in solidarity with Rex and SOS to Sacred Heart, because we have barely had any eih out scene compared to districts.

CW

Three: six, seven, two five and eight district 10 actually only has about 16 I, believe we need to pull our own weight and support our homeless Community instead of gatekeeping, our community and sections of our city. Thank you.

AI

BQ

Hello, can you hear.

BJ

Me yes, yeah I, want to say thank you and I'm arresting in dd4 close to Noble and I strongly against the noble side, because we uh it's very close to school and we have no safety concern and Noble is a park. I heard a lot of people from the same agency and they have the same against the support from agency and the organization reading similar transcriptions. They don't present uh Present written or real people. I want to compliment to hear the voice from narendon, who is an in D2 and uh hear the voice from us.

BJ

So I won the mayor and the councilman to wrote. No for the noble side. Thank you.

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BF

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BF

Yes, uh my name is iwan I'm living in near Kato station uh I'm, here strongly against poea actually station, simply because uh this kind of Eis should not build near the highway traffic area and the cut station is really really high with traffic I write in the morning, even in the noon time a lot of people gonna go on to review 85 to the work. uh Second cannot be near the hospital location since Kaiser permanently is at this location and also like many people talking about students feel near the library or school.

BF

This location close to Library on the school and another device shouldn't concern highly heavily raise resident diarrhea. Since you look the uh north east corner.

D

Jing Chen and Reverend Bainbridge.

D

First, one to the microphone just go ahead and start.

CX

Reverend Dana Bainbridge, Pastor Urban sanctuary uh I, find I'm mindful of the fact that uh we're having this conversation at a time in our Christian uh season, in which we recognize um La Posada the traveling of Jesus and well Jesus family, while he was preparing to be born from end to end and trying to find a place to stay, and so it's rather painful for me to listen to so much testimony um of not providing a place for people to stay in our community during this particular season when we as Christians are particularly mindful of the need to open our doors and to welcome those who have no place to stay to those who are fearful of what might happen in your neighborhood, I would say: they're already unhoused people all around you it's so it would be so helpful to have them be in a place where there's actually the structures and the support, and it will make your neighborhoods safer to have them be in that kind of situation.

CX

Thank you, oh, where they can have that kind of.

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Next speaker, Jing Chen.

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AZ

Hello, can you hear me? Yes, okay, thank you good evening. Everyone I am a resident of D4 and uh I. I. Think uh everybody here uh shouldn't know is actually the D4 residence has followed this plan for a long long time, multiple years and even any for this year we have hold multiple meetings to express our concerns and I think the default resistance has made it clear that the people in before we care about homeless, but we strongly against Noble. This is simply not a proper site.

AZ

We want everybody here, especially our councilman, uh to to recall his discussion. His lensity discussion with all the residents in D4 I feel interesting that this night there are so many agencies has jumped from nowhere to join this regime. Where is that from? Do they want to to get your cut from this program? We all know how bureaucracy the system is.

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CS

Hi, thank you. I just I'm, a resident of District, 4 and I just want to let to to express my solidarity with my District 4 Neighbors I have been a resident of this neighborhood for over 20 years. It's a beautiful neighborhood. We do care about the homeless, but a noble site is not a good site for an eih and I strongly urge the council members to vote it up list. Thank you.

CY

Hi this is Gayatri I'm, a resident um in Palmyra um close to cartel Road I'm. Sure a lot of the residents here have echoed this, but I just wanted to reiterate. uh You know that we already see um you know when I take my kitten dog down the road to like Safeway or Target to do our grocery shopping, like we see enough of homeless already, and it's like um it's it's quite a it's a very disturbing and scary instance.

CY

At times so um I urge the council members to ensure that we spread out the eih I'm. You know I'm totally in favor um of providing houses and providing shelters for them. um I think it's a noble thought, but I hope you can also consider that you know we have kids here.

CY

um You know my my daughter is like a year old. I do want her to grow up in a safe Society, so I'd appreciate if you give that a thought and um fine find another site for this. Thanks.

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BJ

Hello, my name is Claire, um so I'm a resident of District 4. I'm, not against the homeless. However, I'm against building a building on this housing system in in Noble site, because we have many schools nearby and we have library and this site is a park. So please uh councilman, please consider um our our voice and the other organizations. uh You know we have been I. I have been coming to the city hall for many times, but I'm working, mom I cannot come all the time. So please consider our voice. Thank you.

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Back to the council.

C

Okay, I want to thank all the members of the community came out to speak uh on all sides of this. We appreciate there's a lot of passionate uh sentiment involved here and a lot of concern and I think you know I I want to speak, for if I can for a moment remember from the city, Community I think we have this here at the city. We've got a lot of people working incredibly hard to make sure that these housing communities are good neighbors and they have all.

C

The evidence so far indicates that they are very good. Neighbors and um I I appreciate the hard work everybody to to make that happen. All right. Let's go to the council, councilmember Cohen.

CZ

Oh yeah, thank you. um First I want to thank everyone who came out and spoke.

CZ

I know this is a um an issue that raises a lot of uh passion and concerns, and it's important um for all of us on Council to address uh what is a crisis in the city of San Jose um and, as I've been saying, it's really important that we have these emergency room housing sites throughout the city and have locations for people to have safe transition from living on the streets to living on, uh to to being able to get into more permanent, safe supportive environments and I also wanted to spell right away something that I've heard throughout this discussion about well.

CZ

District Four doesn't have a problem. Why should District 4 have a um eih site? The latest homeless count was just released and the number was 433 homeless residents in the district, four, which was the fifth most of any District in the city of San, Jose and I'm, committed to making sure that we are part of the solution and and have options for people and kind of an interesting juxtaposition.

CZ

The number one uh concern we received from residents or that our office receives from residents is concerns about people who are living unhoused in their neighborhoods in The Creeks, along the roads, in unsafe unsanitary conditions and without these kinds of interim Solutions we're not going to be able to actually resolve that problem. So it's important that we do it.

CZ

Having said that, it's also important to do it right and, as I said, when this came to Council in June, and we were faced only with a single option in District Four doing it with speed is not necessarily better than doing it correctly and now I would actually say doing it um with where, if speed, um if you do it actually, what I should say is either do it right or it won't work and I. Think we've learned that focusing only on a specific site and trying to do it quickly is all that's ended.

CZ

Up doing is delaying us and that's what's been a frustration of mine, because we do need a site in District, Four and and I think we have a lot of options in District, Four um and I've worked with staff on many of those options and I think we have found a site that actually has is it?

CZ

Is it a good location and the frustration is that we could have been designing and building that site by this time if we had put in to get together this process at a sooner date, um it was clear to me that that the site on what is Parkland by Noble Avenue was not the optimal site in District, Four um and I'm. Glad now that we have a site that is workable and I will just talk a little bit about that site. The Cerrone VTA site there's a lot of space there.

CZ

It's one block from a light rail line, it's about two or three blocks from a shopping center, with a Target right by a lot of Transit, a transportation infrastructure. So it actually is a good location and we did when we did Outreach there. There wasn't um much concern by the community in that part of San Jose, so I'm um happy that we've we've gotten to this point now and ready to move forward on that site. I do want to just talk about um just the items in my memo.

CZ

um There are there's been concern from um folks obvious for obvious reasons that live near the penitentiary reach to park space about the long-term protection of that site, so I've just strengthened the language a little bit in my first recommendation um to use the word permanently: remove the noble site from implementation of eih um and then moving forward with the activities that are needed to plan um the eih at Cerrone. In addition, we talked about this in the last item about safe parking, but we put it into this memo here.

CZ

We should be going back through that list of eih proposals that came from residents in our office and other places in the city and try to find out which ones of those are appropriate for RV parking sites because of those 430 I think about a hundred in District Four are RVs and we need to find a parking for RVs. In addition to this kind of interim housing program, the other thing, the thing about of long-term protection of the park um is an important action.

CZ

I've put in a recommendation just to I think aligned with what the city staff is already doing, to create that city-wide definition for Parkland chartered status and go through and make sure that all spaces that meet that definition are then um included on that list, so that we know for sure in the future how we've defined those spaces and have an easily referenced list. We found out through this process that there is no comprehensive list anywhere and there are a lot of sites that are in question. So we will.

CZ

We will do that, but we need to go through that process, which will take a few months but we'll remove the noble site from consideration.

CZ

In the meantime, um the other thing I just wanted to bring up is um in terms of Expediting this process, I'm hopeful that we can consider some creative ways of potentially getting going out and getting bids for the construction of the sites, the buildings that are going to be on the site, regardless of where we might end up and pretend and try to get some bidders in some suppliers in place so that we can move quickly once we identify sites to actually stand them up, because if we do these things sequentially, where we first come to an agreement with, you know, go through a month or two to come to an agreement with VTA on the land use and then do the design and then need to go out and procure we could be talking about a year before we have the site.

CZ

So I'm, just hopeful and I- didn't put it in the memo, but I'm hopeful that we can consider some ways of doing some bids now to start that third step, so that when we have the design, we're ready to install and I know, there might be some site-specific issues, but I think we can probably get some Universal um types of units lined up. So I can maybe I'll ask that question. What is the thought about being able to do something that that does things in parallel, so we can move a little faster.

DA

Council, member I think we pretty much all agree in the need for urgency. Matt Kano, the director of Public Works, is, is here, I, believe, and so we're just going to ask him to to come down and and give you a sense. I know that we're working on a few things internally.

DB

Thank you, councilmember Matt Kano, director of Public Works yeah. We are continuing to explore the opportunity of possibly um defining the type of units and procurring the units ahead of time.

DB

We're also right now working on a request for an RFQ to get design, Builders pre-qualified for these units, and so that's already in progress and so that'll be posting in January, so that when the units are ready to move forward, even if we don't when the projects are ready to move forward, even if we don't um pre-get all the units ourselves we'll have a short list of design, build firms that we can put our proposals out to and get responses quicker.

DB

So we, but we are continuing to explore the idea that you suggested as well to see what works best great.

CZ

I appreciate that I think that's a great idea to pre-qualify the right uh contractors so that we'll be ready to go um just a couple couple: quick questions about uh the service enhancement area, um the service enhancement area would be applied then to all existing sites, and not just the new sites. Is that just is that correct? I just want to verify that.

DC

Thank you, council member Johnson rally, director Parks and Rec. Yes, okay, we can do the five existing up to another five that we would build, plus a couple safe parking sites with that two and a half million dollar uh recommendation.

CZ

Great I really appreciate that. That's a that's a great service and I think it'll. It's a good compromise that will help us um I've been a little concerned about um the practicality of of no encampment zones or anything more detailed than that and I think you outlined it well, I is it true. I mean our experience from school. Knowing Camden zones, for example, is that we have 150 feet buffer, but people just measure 151 feet and set up their Camp. There is that right.

DC

That's correct that does happen.

CZ

Yeah, so it's not clear to me that, whatever length distance, you put that you've really solved the problem or or helped a community necessarily depending on the layout, and as that map showed what it would look like. So I do appreciate that that we we have some um service enhancement that will keep areas cleaner and under control and safe, but doesn't necessarily rely on the heavy-handed approach, so I'm I'm going to um move my memo and this isn't meaning to preclude other memos that are on that are out there for consideration.

CZ

I move my memo, which includes staff recommendations and the other items on mine as I've learned through this process. It's important for me as a council member and all of us to take advice of the folks who know better in the areas where their sites are so I'm, not going to presume anybody else's memo and I want to listen to their input and be willing to take friendly amendments on other memos, but I'm going to move my memo to start right now, a.

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CZ

And then just make one other comment. Thank the folks at Noble for their continued engagement, I, look forward to being out there to plant trees in the spring at the space, we're we're getting we're going to get to bring in the resources for that, and you can save me a t-shirt. Thank you. One.

DA

Clarification uh councilmember, Mrs, Omar passens again, just uh your memo makes a reference to expanding the neighbor enhanced services to existing and future potential safe parking sites. Is that that right as well I just I thought I had read that I.

CZ

I think it says that yeah um it's been a long day, but but I mean the idea would be that that it would that as I think it's based on. What's in your memo, that's talk about service enhancements that existing in future sites. I, don't think mine referred to that element of it at all. Okay,.

DA

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DD

Thanks mayor appreciate it um well I want to Echo the thanks to staff for all of all of your work over the over the months and and the work that's gone into evaluating dozens of sites and the conversation about enhanced services. This evening, um I'm certainly committed to the shared goal of getting to to the Thousand new quick, build units that the council is committed to.

DD

I, really I think that the model has proved to be the fastest most cost effective way to get people off of our streets, which I think should be our primary goal as a city and I want to thank and recognize councilman Cohen for his work around the noble site. I appreciate how much work went into that and look forward to voting to remove that site from the list as we work to make it a proper Park um and I also want to thank the members of the public who participated tonight.

DD

I know these are really really tough decisions that understandably drive a lot of emotion. I. Think we're better off, though, for having this open dialogue. Hearing from diverse perspectives, even even when we disagree so I want to run through a few questions, and most of them will be about the caudal site in District, 10. and first Jim I just thought.

DD

If I could go to you or maybe Omar whoever's, most appropriate first, you know I know we have a lot of residents, many of whom are here tonight who pretty recently learned that caudal had become staff's, preferred site no longer Great, Oaks and I was just hoping that you could tell us a remind everyone or share with everyone a little bit of the process for how we got here and why Cottle is now staff's preferred site over Great Oaks.

DE

Yes, council, member Jim wartball from the city manager's office. As you recall, back in June, we made a staff recommendation to pursue the 85 Great Oaks site as the recommended site in District 10.. We had a couple of Alternatives as well that we had put out there. In the event we couldn't Advance the 85 Great Oaks site at Santa, Teresa, the Light Rail station there and then at Santa, Teresa and 85 two locations, but we thought 85. Grove Oaks was the best site at that point.

DE

In time we did recognize that Caltrans was contemplating selling a portion of the 85 Great Oak site to a a company called es Volta, who was contemplating a battery and transmission storage facility.

DE

So we didn't know that we could deliver on that particular site. You recommended, and the council approved that we continue to look for alternative sites in District 10 and in District, 4.

DE

um Deputy city manager, Omar passons in the summer, initiated community outreach and also initiated a process whereby members of the community could suggest alternate sites. In addition, we went back and evaluated sites that we had previously put on the list and weren't recommending to go forward to see if there were potential among those sites. So through that process this summer we brought in many new sites in District 4 and in District 10 and evaluated many new sites.

DE

We published that list in early September and initiated the evaluation, the process that we use, we've we've published those guidelines and we use those guidelines to evaluate dozens of sites through that process. The two sites tonight that were recommending the Cerrone site in District 4 and the model site in District 10, were suggested by the community. It was an anonymous process.

DE

We just asked that people suggest recommended sites and give us some basic information and we would take the evaluation from there and we did that in the August and September October time frame we're recommending today the Cottle site for a couple of reasons, one the size of the site, it's sufficiently sized to get a hundred unit eih facility. The shape is better than the 85 Great Oak site, that particular site.

DE

Although it has a lot of acreage is very long and narrow, and it's subject to Caltrans clear Zone setbacks where the off ramp is at and then since Caltrans has sold 25 feet on the south side of the property, it would be potentially subject to a setback from that making the project a very difficult design, a very difficult layout if you can Envision kind of a long, linear, snake type design.

DE

Those are part of the reasons why we think caudal would be a better location. It's it's a shape that would allow for an easier design, We Believe from a cost comparison standpoint, the coddle site compared to 85, Great, Oaks or 85 Santa Teresa would be more costly on a per unit basis and we would be able to get sufficient units to get towards the 1000 unit goal that the council has directed staff to pursue.

DE

There are probably a variety of other reasons as well that we could consider why caudal made sense. It's closer to a grocery store for people to get supplies. It is close to medical facilities. It is close to Transit as well. People in our unsheltered community probably have less use of automobiles more need for Transit. It's a light rail station. A bus, a bus station is right there as well. So for those reasons we think caudal is a superior site. We do recommend, though, that we continue to evaluate or keep in consideration the other sites.

DE

In the event we can't come to agreement with VTA VTA has been a very supportive and positive, thus far in that, but we think we should, you know, keep other sites in the mix. Until we know we have a secured lease agreement with the owners of sites.

DD

Yeah thanks Jim I think that would be prudent to keep those other sites in the mix. Obviously, my preference in the spirit of trying to better spread out the sites, has been for the Almaden Light Rail spur that's no longer in use. If we I know I've asked you this, but have we triple checked that VTA is not interested in using that site? Yeah.

DE

I can say I've at least triple checked. It I've had at least three conversations with the director real estate at VTA and they're, using it as a light rail operations center, and it is the bus line, 64, Park and Ride lot at that location and they until they figure out their long-term plans on light rail operations. They say that is not an available site to the city and I've heard that on three separate occasions from VTA.

DD

So you actually triple checked. Okay, I'm glad to hear that and then, in terms of Santa Teresa and 85, which we've been discussing, we haven't actually proposed a site plan to Caltrans what would be next steps on that site and what is the likelihood of it being viable.

DE

Yeah, the the the next step with Caltrans would be to show them or discuss with them our potential layout. It's a site that we've looked at it's a smaller site. It has slopes off of one side of it, uh undeveloped, slope that would need to be addressed so it it is a smaller site and to get up to 60 units which would make it a smaller facility, smaller Community. We would need to request an exception to the Caltrans clear Zone requirements, the 30-foot setback from the off ramp.

DE

So we would have to build our uh circulation and Fire Lane inside their circulation inside their clear zone. So it would require an exception from Caltrans for us to be able to build the facility just to get to 60 units.

DE

So, as you can imagine, if you're making the investment in all the utilities and everything that goes into a site, if you're only going to yield 45 to 60 units- and our goal is obviously you know to overall to get to a thousand that isn't getting us towards that goal nearly enough, but the cost is still going to be. You know pretty close to the same whether you go at a facility at 100 units. You know versus 45 to 60., so there is just the cost per unit.

DE

We don't think makes as much sense in that location.

DD

If we wanted to keep that one open, though how much more work and time would it take to share a potential site map with Caltrans and get their feedback.

DE

So two points: we could probably initiate some discussions soon and show them our initial layout concept idea, but in working with Caltrans over the years they would not approve anything until we have a more complete design plan where we have plans that they literally could look at almost like a sign off type level of plan, so they ultimately don't approve our projects until we show them truly engineered design plans.

DE

So it would be a two-step process, one we'd initially reach out to them, discuss it with them and then figure out what level of detail we would have to provide for them to actually consider and approve that exception. Okay,.

DD

But just to clarify your recommendation tonight does keep Santa Teresa and Great Oaks on the list and you're planning to continue conversations. Our.

DE

Recommendation is to pursue coddle and Cerrone as our lead sites. While we continue to consider other options in the event those sites don't work out and the steps that we would take. We are meeting with es Volta the company that bought the land near the 85 Great Oaks site, we're meeting with them tomorrow, just to understand their project, and we could initiate a follow-up conversation with Caltrans as well.

DE

But our recommendation is to also move uh on the coddle site with VTA as well, and that would be where we'd also be putting a lot of focus to advance.

DD

Got it yeah I'd, certainly like to request that you do continue the conversation with Caltrans around Santa, Teresa and I know. Councilor Jimenez has a memo that he'll, probably discuss, but I think it would be kind of aligned, with the spirit of that um just moving on a cognizant of time here, I'll try to speed up and wrap up my comments here in a moment. You know a concern that we've heard consistently from residents around Cottle is the use of the VTA lot.

DD

Do we have any confirmation from VTA of the utilization rates pre-pandemic I feel like that should be a knowable yeah.

DE

So so we we have had conversations with VT I have not seen data they're checking their records to see if they have specific data about it. Their experience is that it is not. The lot does not fill for Transit purposes. They've experienced, non-transit use at that site uh in the past, and and probably more recently, it's probably the the Kaiser hospital. That's that's driving a lot of that non-transit use.

DE

um Historically, they felt like it's been an underutilized, Park and Ride lot, not unlike Santa Teresa or the Snell location as well there's capacity in their park and ride Lots. They are still looking into their records, but a couple of perspectives on that VTA has always considered a number of their fights to be future development sites, and this is one of them that they would anticipate long-term being a future development site in our general plan. It's Zone commercial development.

DE

So it's something that we probably would anticipate someday having some level of commercial development on as well and to the extent uh you know that pre-pandemic levels there's a higher level of Transit utilization. You know we will continue our conversations with VTA about that, but we also recognize VTA from the standpoint that it's not just one location that you know manages the parking capacity for for this, the entire system there is capacity at Snell. There is capacity at Santa Teresa. We would retain a certain amount of capacity at Cottle as well.

DE

You know up to about 130 140 spaces could be retained at that location as well.

DD

Thanks and then a quick follow-up on that do we have any sense from VTA of the timeline for them, developing that site and potentially moving the on-ramp and the other things they've envisioned.

DE

Very long term is their perspective, my conversations with them and with our planning director and economic development director, it is probably a long-term future development.

DE

um The the good news is, is the deed that they have on the property with Caltrans requires movement of the on-ramp only with a permanent development. This interim proposal that we have tonight would not trigger the movement of the on-ramp, which is a good thing, because the cost of that would be prohibitive right.

DD

Okay and then just two other things, I want to touch on quickly and then I'll um yield to my colleagues here. So one is this: uh this is maybe more for Omar, but the neighborhood preference concept is something that makes a lot of sense to me. I mean I I've, as you all have heard many times. I feel very strongly that neighborhoods that are part of the solutions should see immediate, visible benefits. The neighborhood should be better off.

DD

It should really be a win win and I know that that's included as something to basically explore and come back and I'm curious. How much more exploration do we need and what? What? What evaluation needs to be undertaken to actually Implement a neighborhood preference policy? I know we're doing a preference in terms of Outreach, but is that are you anticipating that we would do any more than what we're currently doing? Yeah.

DA

So just to to sort of clarify what what exists- the housing department Reagan's right here, so she could speak to this, but has a preference such that sites, like the Blossom Hill Cloverleaf area that we we know well would be included in the current preference without a additional study Etc. So there there are spaces, it's intentionally flexible and Reagan could maybe live out a little bit more, but so there this isn't a call to do more study on that preference. It it exists currently. So it's.

DD

Simply reinforced and reinfor okay, so I misunderstood, simply reinforcing current practice.

DD

Okay, and do we have thoughts on how we could be more effective or maybe the word is aggressive, with the neighborhood preference of actually helping encampments in the vicinity of a site. Move together onto a site, I mean what have we learned from doing that local Outreach foreign.

DF

I think we see many um people who are experiencing homelessness and they live together in a community outside they support each other. They take care of each other and often times um want to or Express a desire to move together as a community into an eih.

DF

We saw a significant community living at um Felipe, an encampment on Felipe move in together to the Philippe uh bhc I would say what could be helpful in terms of doing more. Of that and being more proactive is the street Outreach resources.

DF

Our street Outreach teams are very limited and we're certainly not resourced in terms of having enough Outreach teams to meet the number of people who are living outside in San Jose and to have proactive Outreach to them and build the trust and relationships that it takes to bring someone inside and.

DA

Councilmember, just to really put a fine point on that for the your colleagues and the public, the the notion of having the proactive case management style, Outreach, that's trauma-informed, Etc, that's in the service enhancement recommendation. It adds capacity to be able to get out to people proactively and work with them. So that's a distinction from calling a phone number or something and having people trying to get people to run out. So it's a much more relationship, oriented approach right.

DD

So that's probably more what I was thinking of I mean you're. What you are recommending is that we explore being much more robust in our implementation of the neighborhood preference essentially, but that is a bit in conflict with the concept of of sub-populations and so I'm just curious about that tension. As we move forward. I understand we're going to have a follow-up conversation about that. But can you just say a little more on that.

DF

Yeah I think we we just touched on it in our presentation.

DD

DF

um A neighborhood preference.

DF

uh We have a lot of flexibility right now in terms of our referrals to our interim housing communities, where we can take an entire uh encampment together and bring them inside if, if the city wanted to implement a specific sub-populations at our interim housing sites, so, for example, taking an an interim housing location and serving victims of gender-based violence or another alternative is serving individuals who are in our rapid re-housing program that, while you could better Serve the People those sub-populations by designing very specific programs for them, it could potentially limit the flexibility that we have now with a geographic preference right.

DD

And I guess I'm just looking to understand what, when you all come back with in in the new year, what we should expect from that analysis? How are you weighing those two or what are you considering there.

DF

Yeah so we're currently working with the San Francisco foundation and a consultancy firm home base on a study of our interim housing communities.

DF

Right now uh the consultant is recommending consideration of serving sub-populations but I think a couple of things. We could do it in a phased approach and also we could uh still Reserve an entire interim housing community or perhaps more than one that could serve people who are impacted by encampment abatements, so I think there's a a way where we could try and serve specific populations in a in a more trauma-informed way, but also try and maintain some flexibility for the community. Another example is at a site.

DF

You could reserve a certain number of beds that are for people in the immediate adjacent area that neighborhood preference and then perhaps.

DD

DF

Portion is for victims of gender-based violence, for example, right.

DD

So just going back to caudal for a moment then, and then I'll ask my I'll, make my final point and move on sorry.

DD

um Do we know how many folks are currently encamped within that 10-minute walk shed, let's say of the Cottle site who, if there was a if we were to pursue our neighborhood preference in a more robust way, might actually no longer be unhoused in the in the vicinity of the site. So.

DA

I think I need to tease something out because there's sort of two two questions embedded there, the the enhanced service, the sort of proactive Outreach that the neighborhood service enhancements uh refer to that's the sort of smaller walk shed. 10 minutes, the neighborhood preference is already larger than that, so it it picks up, not just that walk shed but flexibly based on the neighborhood and in this case, including you know, the Cloverleaf, which is about a mile away and a few other locations that are a little further away.

DA

So just to make sure we distinguish that this, the current neighborhood preference would enable housing to be able to go to that broader location. I. Think the the answer to the number question is that we don't have the great information. We know that there's uh one off again on-again encampment within the the walk shed. That's just it's the nature of this Dynamic, sometimes that people are some places now and Another Place Another Day, but it does reach some of those other locations.

DA

DD

See, okay and then finally, I just wanted to end on this, um and I really want to hear from my colleagues but I. You know I wanted to voice my support for exploring uh everything in the mayor's memo, including the no encampment, Zone and I, understand that's a contentious position, but I think it's worth better, exploring and understanding how it could be implemented in a in a responsible, humane way. uh The cost of ongoing enforcement. Obviously a lot of considerations and we're in no position to make a decision on that tonight.

DD

But um the reason I feel strongly that it's worth exploring is that, frankly, I think we have a marketing problem. We have. We have seen that these sites can be very effective at helping people move off the streets, get the support that they need successfully help them. Transition into permanent housing, get back on their own two feet can actually reduce service calls in the neighborhood.

DD

There's a lot there to to celebrate, and yet most residents don't don't actually believe that these you know at least have a really strong fear that this site is bringing a problem to their neighborhood and- and my greatest fear is that somebody walks by one of these sites sees an encampment next to it and says wow. This is this is a failed approach. This strategy is failing. The city is failing to solve the problem.

DD

uh We we should not support any more of these sites and I I, just I I think that we have to meet the community halfway and make, in my view at least make some guarantees that we're going to take the steps necessary to ensure that their neighborhood is is better off. I also think it's likely better for the residents of the EA eih site to to also have that buffer around the site as they go through their kind of personal Journeys to uh to permanent housing.

DD

So um that's just my two cents on it I'm curious to hear my colleagues thoughts, but I certainly think it's worth exploring understanding the trade-offs and the and the potential costs. With with that I'll um I'll. Wait to hear my colleagues comments before offering emotion or hear what emotions they may have.

DA

Sorry, council, member one clarifying question about the notion: I. Obviously staff's recommendation was what it wasn't But, but so that we're clear the the notion of an encampment is it has a lot of. It means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, and so, when you ask about it no encampment zone, are you asking about um people tense structures, cars and RVs? Basically anything it's it's a it's one.

DD

Of those my view just I mean I, appreciate and I look I, think that's why it needs further conversation and clarification at the most basic level. A neighbor walking by a new eih site that we have placed in their neighborhood ought to be able to walk some distance. Whether that's five minutes I, don't know what the right distance is I, don't it's! Maybe it's not a radius I think you all have made a very compelling case that it's a walk shed. It's not a strict radius.

DD

You know that we draw with a protractor on a sheet of paper on a map. Fine, but uh should not um I think that we should couple a strong neighborhood preference with robust Outreach, as the sites are being implemented, to make every possible effort to get the people in that neighborhood indoors in a safe, managed environment and then enforce within a similar distance. A a no encampment Zone and by encampments I think what most of the public is really focused on is people living outside in tents and I.

DD

Think that that's a trade-off that we give people a safe indoor place to go, but then say an exchange in that similar radius. We're going to make sure that that area is clear of encampments and I. Think that that's something that would build buy-in people would say. Wow, I, I just went through this at Brandon and Monterey by the way, which is no longer in my district. The way that we got some buy-in from Neighbors for moving forward.

DD

That site was saying we have an unmanaged encampment with fires and noise and some real challenges, but hey. If we Embrace this site, we can house those people and you won't, have have the noise and the fires and the challenges and I get. The enhanced. Services is a great step and it may work it's harder to explain to the community. It's not a guarantee and I and I. Just think that we have a real marketing challenge here and I.

DD

Think if we were Bolder about our commitment and to what we're going to do to make sure that these neighborhoods are better off I. Think we'll get more buy-in and easier for us to scale up the solution, but again I'm I'm, just suggesting that we further explore it and come back next year to really understand the pros and cons.

C

Okay, council, member Foley.

DG

Thank you. First I want to thank staff, Omar Jim, James Reagan for our James John. At the end, sorry I can't see you for your presentation and and John in particular. Thank you for sharing that video. uh Was it Chris?

DG

His words were uh such a message of Hope and and for those who are uh lighting an Advent wreath this week the first candle is Hope, and that is what we should be talking about. Is the Hope for housing, the unhoused and getting them off of these out of these encampments and into the emergency interim housing.

DG

So I really appreciate your presentation and the thoughtfulness and the detail behind it. I also appreciate all the memos that are going around from my Council colleagues and I'll see where the memo the Motions going to be made because I'm not I, don't have a memo. I don't have anything out there, so I'm not going to make a memo or a motion and I also appreciate all the members of the community who are here who are talking about their particular areas, their neighborhoods I'm happy to support council member Cohen, removing Noble site.

DG

That's absolutely the right thing to do. I'm also mindful of the fact that District 9 is not represented in these eihs and I know that staff, Omar and Jim and others are looking at sites in District 9. But we haven't narrowed it down yet and we're we're not really ready to talk about anything specifically, but that every District must share the burden of an eih and and it's not a burden. It's really lifting up the unhoused and putting them in housing, which is the first step to putting them into affordable housing in District 9.

DG

We do have our share of affordable housing coming in about it very in in very many areas, around Blossom Hill, Road Etc uh of upwards about of about 3 000 units tentatively coming in, but that's not the interim housing that we need.

DG

We need the emergency housing first and then the affordable housing comes next plus affordable housing takes a lot longer to build so I'm completely supportive of the building, the Thousand units and we're close, and we need to focus on that and I hope that we'll be able to come back with a project in District 9 and that we'll be able to have thoughtful communication and Outreach with the community when that is an opportunity for us to have so for now, I will I am really great. This is something we absolutely need to do.

DG

We have an unhoused population that we need to take care of, regardless of the reason that they are unhoused. We need to get them out of the Creeks. We need to make them safe. We need to make our communities safe. We need to lift them up, but we also need to improve the housed residence neighborhoods as well, and the eihs will accomplish both so I. Think all of the memos are thoughtful I. The staff presentation was very thoughtful and helpful, and very detailed.

DG

So I really am grateful for all of that and I look forward to the motion and hopefully being able to support it and then having a future discussion about these sites and then in as they're called quick, build, I hope quick, build is a quick build and not two years down the line. We're still talking about the quick builds not being built. I'll just leave it at that. Thank you very much.

C

Councilmanas yeah.

DH

Thank you. Thank you for all the work um appreciate it and thank you to all the community members that showed up today, whether you're in support of it or eihs, whether you're against it I, think it's important that you all show up and express your opinion. That's what we do here at the city and that's what democracy is all about. So I very much appreciate your presence. You know, I did submit a memo.

DH

The memo, essentially what it did was highlight some of the work that District, 2 or South San Jose has been doing for some time and I paused there a moment because there was a Community member that told me it's South, San Jose.

DH

We don't see the lines I, don't care whose District it is right, and so that really brought me to acknowledge the fact that that's how it's viewed by residents and so from this point forward, I'm going to try to acknowledge it in that way in just South, San Jose, and so there was certainly some some compelling slides that were shown by some of the folks that popped in to talk a little bit about their concerns and and really the spirit of the memo really is the a dispersion of the sites of eih.

DH

As it wasn't, my intent wasn't to kill sites. The memo was really to continue different looking at different sites, and it was essentially suggesting to pause the the consideration of caudal and 85 in Great Oaks.

DH

While we explored other locations continue to explore other locations as Jim you, you had mentioned the the 85 Santa Teresa sort of on-ramp there, southbound on-ramp I, know, there's challenges there and I'll have some a question or two about that. Just to better understand what you shared earlier and really um it was also. The memo was also just to show that the this South San Jose has been really been leading the way as it relates to the development. A lot of the of a lot of these sites.

DH

uh I know that brown and Monterey is going to be coming online uh in the next. uh When is it? Maybe then, over the next 12 months, hopefully or I'm, not sure what the timeline is? um You don't need to tell me I can look it up. I, just don't have a tough in my head. In addition to that, I know that we're expanding the roof, Ferrari site and I, don't I, don't recall exactly how many beds we're going to be growing to there um Jim.

DH

If you know what off the top of your head about.

DE

DH

So about 100, okay and then obviously some of these that we're considering is is obviously top of mind for many of the folks, considering some of the other things that we're doing- and let me just say also that I I very publicly in case and some of the folks in the audience, especially the ones holding up the signs. They know that I don't agree with them on just not moving forward on any side, and so I would say that it's important to acknowledge uh that building these sites is the right thing to do.

DH

But I also think it's important to acknowledge uh that, although some folks aren't going to support any of those locations right and I, don't Kid myself and I.

DH

Don't think we should kid ourselves as a city that some folks community members, irrespective of where we put this, what services are offered they're just not going to like it and I, think that's, that's the true sort of feeling and sentiment that I think exists in some parts of the community, but I also think that there's some folks and I would put myself in this category that that are supportive of vihs, but have concerns about the concentration in South San Jose as an example, and that was really another part of the memo that I was trying to to highlight- um and in fact next week for all of you that care about this.

DH

uh There's an item on the agenda, 8.2 um and I'm. Mentioning this because I think it's in line with some of the things that we're thinking about as it relates to dispersion and concentration. It's the affordable housing, citing policy, it's going to be discussed next week and it's simply a policy to make certain that we don't over, concentrate, affordable, housing and other in only one District or one part of the city and I think that there are some threads of that conversation.

DH

I think, in my mind, uh that that sort of apply to this discussion and I look forward to having that conversation, but I just wanted to express that as well um and and the other thing I would say that is for all the folks here.

DH

That may feel that whatever comes pops out of the hopper tonight, if you will, as it relates to the decision from us that I encourage you, you I really really encourage you to to expend the energy that you have the interest that you have on this topic to help find sites across the city. I, don't think it was said earlier, but I know it's in the memo, but the caudal site actually came about through through a recommendation from a Community member and so I.

DH

Don't know who that was I know some people were asking me well, who was that I have no idea who that was, but but I think that's important to acknowledge right. So, if you are here and you think other districts, other parts of the city should be doing their part- that I encourage you to to use that energy to go, find those locations to make those recommendations to staff. To me to every council member.

DH

That's up here, because I am an equally frustrated uh with the lack of sort of the spread of some of these locations. I think every District needs to be doing their part and I.

DH

Think only that way are we really truly going to put a significant dent in in solving this uh this issue, and so I just wanted to express that so I encourage you to stay engaged uh Jim with regards to the uh Santa Teresa, 85, on-ramp, um and so there's obviously work to be done still right, assuming we, we want to go that route in the in the memo and you're the staff memo I think it says, I forget the exact word it uses, but it says uh in in you're sort of continuing to to sort of poke around on that site to figure out if it's viable is that correct.

DE

That's correct, you know it may not be viable um or it may end up. It may end up being a very, very small site in terms of the number of units we would need an exception from Caltrans related to their uh on-ramp clearance and setback policy. Right.

DI

DE

That's not something they take lightly.

DH

So so, if you don't mind me asking that, because one of the things that stood out to me because I read the memo, obviously, but uh why wouldn't we just you know, because there were some some uh sites in the in one of the attachments that Alyssa quite literally had a line through them saying no more not going to consider. This is a no-go. This wasn't one of those sites, I, don't think.

DE

It was not one of.

DH

Them yeah, and so why is that, if it seems so sort of long shot, if you will.

DE

Yeah, the reason: why is we we believe we could develop a very small eih community? We could stay clear of the setback Zone. We could do the necessary grading and create the retaining walls and just end up with a small eih community, maybe about 40 units, and the question is with the limited amount of funding we have to develop as many units as we can to try and address the unsheltered population. Investing us.

DE

You know a somewhat similar amount of money in 85 sanitary set to get 40 units compared to another location where we could get a hundred units. It's just the math doesn't work there for.

DH

Us, okay, that's.

DE

Why we wouldn't recommend that.

DH

All right and then the location of 85 in Great Oaks. How long remind me I forget exactly what you responded to to councilmember Mahan as it relates to the time frame you think is needed in order to figure out how that's going to sort of.

DE

Yeah I'll know a lot more tomorrow, I.

DH

DE

With es Volta the company that is developing the project, that would take 25 feet away from that site on the south side to see you know what is you know what other construction plans look like? What is their schedule?

DE

um Could we go before them? Is that even possible at all? So those are some of the questions that we'll be discussing tomorrow, regardless of those conversations with es Volta or with Caltrans the caudal site, given its its dimensions and it's the way it's kind of laid out. We think it is a better site.

T

DE

Needs more of the the preferred things that were seeking in a site, but we recognize you know, there's opposition different places. I I would tell you this. If Santa Teresa 85 became our recommended site, I bet, we would have a considerable number of the community out in.

DH

Opposition or that yeah do you have a census to some of the meetings you've been. You know, you've been in attendance and presented, you know at and such what the sentiment is of the community members that you interacted with as it relates to which well maybe caudal just came on sort of the Horizon right, but I was going to ask you, which you think they would prefer based on what you've heard.

DE

I think they would prefer the one that is furthest from where they live. That's.

DJ

DH

Experience doing this for many years right, right and you're, correct, correct, correct and that, and that and that's important to note. uh The one thing I would point out about the uh Great Oaks 85 site is that it is quite literally almost across the street from the Bernal site, uh not not exactly, but if you go across the tracks and right across Monterey and then go walk up about a block or two. If that then.

DE

You could characterize it that way. You could also characterize.

I

DE

That there's a uh a major roadway train tracks.

AO

DE

DE

DH

Would say: okay and then the the other thing I was going to ask is let's just say that everyone here that is not supportive of the caudal site, went out tomorrow and started looking for sites um and a site was floated to you all and, and it seemed promising, would you would you would I mean you would be open to exploring that and jumping on that, assuming it fit whatever? You know the criteria that we've established we want to use so.

DA

I'd say uh two things to that: one is as part of the process back in June when the memo was floated to do deep community outreach. We actually had had to put our foot on the gas to stand up and a website and a site form, and all that sort of thing where we are in time I think there's a little bit of a window that would be needed because of Staff resources and timing to be able to to spin up on on other sites. So we'd have to take a look at it.

DA

I think that's probably right.

DE

Well and I guess: I just add this I know we're you've preferred not to talk about Council District boundaries, but I'd really need to hear that from the whole Council. Are we talking district 10 or are we talking finding another site? It would take the time that Omar is talking about, but in District 10 I think we've, we've we've really beat the bushes pretty hard to find a location, yeah.

DH

I I mean I was trying to stay away from talking to the bound about the.

DE

Boundaries and I understand that, but the council has established that.

DH

Yeah they exist, but uh of course, I. I think that one of my frustrations has been- and you know Folks up here have heard me say it is- is that many of the projects that have been proposed have well one either been in in District Two or on the border of District, Two um and and so and so and I think that's part of the sentiment, that's sort of carrying forward some of the discontent that exists right uh right or wrong.

DH

I mean that's just yeah very much understood um appreciate it, but but that's why I'm trying to get away from that, because I I think to a certain extent. We just need to see it as the South South, San, Jose, and so um anyway, I don't have a clear path forward on that. So I'll put that on the shelf and I'm going to ask some questions related to some of the other memos I.

DA

Will just say something a little bit: sorry councilor, so that you know the the mayor council already gave the direction to consider all 10 sites. So so so we do have a work to do to be able to Resource um evaluating a bunch of sites all around so I just want to be clear. We just it might take a while to be able to do it, but but we have that okay.

DH

That that actually is a good question, because one of the things I was thinking about. Obviously the front and center in this conversation are sites in D4 and sites in d10. Right, that's but sites in other districts say d8, say D9, say other places. uh Is that on pause? Is that on the Shelf? Do you need to be resource in order to sort of kicks that Kickstart that again or wait? Where is that I.

DE

I would say the directional government Council was to focus in on potential Alternatives in District, Four and district 10, because we had sites that maybe weren't ideal or preferred for a variety of reasons. So we certainly prioritize in that area. But we were open to receiving suggestions in in other districts and as we move forward and make progress towards quick, build, which we've also heard. We are open to considering those other sites in District, 9, District, 8, District, 5 district, one yeah.

DH

And just so you know, the frustration for me is as a council member from District Two I feel, like short of me, driving around other districts trying to find sites. I know those I know the city. Well, but I don't have the time to go drive around other districts around.

DH

That's fine we'll do that. But but my hope is that every council, member sort of taking it upon themselves.

DE

And in the end, if, if we or if a site was suggested to us, that seemed very clear that it would be feasible and viable I, don't think we're going to look away from something I.

DK

DE

Know that we can stand up a significant process like Omar talked about the resources, but if somebody comes in with a really good site and we can see the the benefits of it right away, you know that could probably be in the mix. Okay, all.

DA

Right, including working with the Council Office, wherever that site, has to be the community members who are in that area, it would be the same level of deep Community engagement to make sure that folks are all engaged. Okay.

DH

All right, thank you and then I just had a few questions about the mayor's memo um so so, and I apologize if I missed it and the memo came out a little late. You know, given that it's blue, but uh um so so it should be a different color. No.

C

No, no, no well.

DH

That's how we recognize everyone. You know a memo that comes out uh uh shortly before the meeting, and so so what I.

C

DH

I was out this morning when I was curious. About is there's some changes at the May, and the mayor is recommending I think he's going from I. Had it written down somewhere from uh to half from to five minutes, walk shed instead of the 10 minutes, I think in the quarter mile, instead of a half a mile, I think I, don't know if I have that correct.

DH

I think it's item uh 2A yeah on his and so obviously there's a cost associated with that and I'm wondering if we've done back of the envelope sort of cost. As as how that compares to some of the costs that you enumerated in some of the slides, are we talking about more money, less money? Doing that I mean.

DC

We haven't done that analysis. The only the only place we really looked at a no encampment Zone was that 150 foot setback, but the way I read the memo man you can correct me if I'm wrong is, is really it's to do this analysis and bring it forward in the budget process, which sounds like an MBA to me. That's.

C

That's right, yeah. What I really want to do is present the council with some options here and and I know. Staff has really dug in on this on and looked at a lot of different issues. Here, I think we're going to learn some things, probably through this study it's coming back from home base and what I hope we're going to learn. Some of the things we're going to learn is is maybe how we can transition it from a from a security, focused model to a stewardship, focused model and perhaps perhaps with engaging the residents themselves.

C

DH

I guess I'm trying to understand. So if we were simply saying, do an MBA and and go do this work, I I get the sense in reading this that we're almost like. If we is, let's just say, we approve this. This was added to the recommendation um that you would go out and do this work at the cost estimates, and then we would move forward.

DH

I mean I'm, trying to think about sort of the decision-making processes really because you may come back with some numbers and we may say no and I guess obviously there's a process for including mbas into the budget and things of that nature.

C

Could I maybe speak there? Please.

DH

C

I, you know we're not going to get these built in time for the budget process, uh so the next Council I won't be on. It will make the decision about how to allocate resources to best accomplish the goals. I think that we probably all share um what I want to do is provide some transparency around our options to that Council and to the public and and the council will make the decision. Okay,.

DH

And and then mayor just another question about the memo item- 2D yeah, trying to understand that it says consider re-examining expenditures for those staff that.

T

DH

Cannot provide a visible outcome.

C

Or movements yeah, let me let me get over them. Yeah, I, I, looked I! Think it's on page gosh! It's at the very end of the memo. Is it 26 yeah? It's got a list of all the expenditures that are involved in the two and a half million, roughly and and I again, I I, don't know the level of depth that staff has looked at. This I'm sure they've thought about a lot harder than I have but I think about, for example, hiring Community, Liaisons and I.

C

Think that is that really going to move the needle in terms of the concerns that neighbors are going to have, or on the other hand, for example, could we imagine paying a resident of one of the communities or formerly on housed individual who could themselves get paid and go to Neighborhood meetings and communicate with the public in some way and that could provide both job opportunities and perhaps a lower cost model as well and provide some work, history and so forth?

C

So what I'm thinking about is, how do we shave some of these costs in some ways that can make this a little more fiscally sustainable, obviously, I understand, there's a lot of analysis and thought that needs to go into this and I'm guessing. Maybe the effort of home base will help yeah.

DA

One just clarifying point about that liaison so that we have a good sense that there's a I can order a magnitude of difference between um maybe having somebody with modest skills, go to a community member community meeting on a one-off basis and resp and respond to and I think from a liaison perspective. The 11 members, the elected bodies that have issue may have questions, as as it relates to these enhanced Neighborhood Services, the connection of neighborhood groups that that have these questions.

DA

What happens now is that ends up being handled by by our our staff, who are also responsible for doing the the actual work of cleaning and that sort of thing, and so I just want to make sure we understand that we're talking about a pretty deep level of of commitment in those roles and an ability to navigate a lot of different directions so that we are not compromised on the execution of these things of the of, in this case, neighborhood service enhancements. So just just so that we know what we're what that part is John.

DA

Do you have anything you need to add to that.

DC

No I don't well.

DA

DC

Appreciate your that was the one item that was a little unclear to me.

DL

So yeah clarification: do you mind if I add sure.

C

But at some point really really.

DL

Quickly, I think this goes back to building trust with the community, sharing the outcomes of service enhancements. Looking at data sharing, um you know sense in eih came on or since service enhancements are on board, showing the difference that it's made. So it would be about reporting back and doing a lot of the work that we already do with neighborhood associations, but um stepping it up and serving citizens advisory groups and others that are coming up and popping up around these eihs.

DH

Yeah, let me just conclude, and then I'll just ask one more question is just uh yeah my concern in reading. It was just simply that maybe you know examining sort of how someone's doing their job and then maybe docking their pay or something if they're not producing a particular outcome and, and that was I. You know.

C

I was trying to wrap my head around that but yeah it.

CS

Wasn't that it was looking.

C

At is are: is this exactly the staff we'd want to have the biggest the best impact in reducing quality of life concerns in a neighborhood, yeah and okay I'm still not very convinced yet about the whole liaison issue. I know we can talk about that in a time um also, there's a lot of money spent, for example, on vehicle abatement staff and frankly, we have some process issues that are still being worked out correct, and it's not obvious to me that by hiring more staff we get more effective vehicle abatement. Yet, okay,.

DH

Yeah and I agree with something yeah and I. The parts of the memo that are very clear to me. I agree with you know, consider employing formerly on house residents live in an interim housing. Those seem like logical things to me and and and and but I think the cost is going to be a big component in my mind, as it really is, how we incorporate this.

DH

uh The last thing, I would just say Jim back to what I, let me take it off the shelf, the the the the process going forward, then for the caudal site and the 85 site, and so um can you share with me your understanding. Then it is so you're strictly going to move forward with the sort of the timing of this right um and how how the communities is to understand sort of how we, as a city.

DE

We would be doing three things as simultaneously, as we could number one caudal, we think is the recommended and the right today, with the information I have the best site. So we would move forward with VTA to negotiate that license agreement and to you know, prepare that site for future development as an eih simultaneously.

DE

We would be meeting with es Volta related to the 85 Great Oaks site and Caltrans, because we have both of those entities on each side to kind of understand, make sure we understand the clear zones and then the es Volta project could we can we co-exist? Can we truly build these projects kind of simultaneously next to each other and have it Be an Effective project?

DE

And then the third thing would be at 85 in Santa, Teresa, Boulevard, um wood Caltrans approve an exception to their clear Zone policy, and let us build this community with the emergency fire lane in their clear Zone. Okay. So those are the three.

DH

Just so I understand about that side if they allow us to build in their clear Zone. That would still only get us about 60 minutes.

DE

Or so up to 60, okay and there's no way 40 to about 60.

DH

And you don't think, there's a way to engineer it or design it in such a way to give us.

DE

I, do not council member. This is one where I triple checked it again. I pressed our Public Works staff. Many times to see the maximum number of units we could get and I I've walked it with them and I'm pretty convinced. That's our upper limit. Okay,.

DI

DH

I I maybe have other questions, but I'll wait to hear some other comments. Thank you. Jennifer.

C

You want to jump in.

DM

Council member Jimenez just to just to put a another point on recommendation 2D from the mayor's memo. How I'm interpreting as city manager is that we're being asked to sharpen our pencil on the expenditures and making sure that we're getting the highest best use out of them and, for example, in our vehicle abatement program, we're in the process of reimagining that program and and the whole Service delivery of that program, which may or may not result in Need for new positions related to that.

DM

So that's how I'm interpreting it, and so that's how we would approach it if that was acceptable to the council. If that got approved.

C

Thank you I appreciate that um yeah and just for the record that I mean all the all the expenditures are listed and I appreciate, stop being so transparent about how they put this budget together, it's not easy, and um so anyone could always pick on any one light item, but in this case it was 365 000 for Community engagement, Liaisons I'm, guessing this Council next spring or the next Council I should say, is going to be challenged with this next budget. um You know California is saying they got a 25 billion dollar deficit.

C

It's probably going to be twice that and we know one thing about every state budget: it's in deficit. It makes the state grab money from local governments, and so we're all going to be doing everything we can to just look for savings, so I just want to at least put it on the table for discussion.

C

um I appreciate all the comments uh and the good discussion on my colleagues. I I really want to thank several folks in addition to all the people, I think in the Box uh I want to thank Mackenzie Mossing on our team and Nathan hope previously on our team, but they've been really uh passionate about pushing forward in this effort.

C

I know McKenzie's, but put plenty of uh plenty of uh weekends and long nights and working on different aspects of this and appreciate Omar, your collaboration with McKenzie and everybody in our team and and pushing forward and Jim, and everybody I also want to thank I, know, I, see James stagey and Matt Kano and others sitting above us here who have been working hard on all these I want to thank the team from VTA in particular, Ron Golem and Conan, and Kerry Graves for the ones to step up their Transit Agency.

C

They don't have to help us solve the homeless crisis, they're doing it because they think it's the right thing to do, and you know, frankly, there's a lot of other agencies that can be stepping up like they are and they're. Not. So, thank you to VTA and I really want to thank Jim morpole for coming out of retirement. To do this. This isn't easy and uh you know I know I.

C

Remember the earliest conversations that started with Dave, Sykes and and you Jim I, think it was probably March of 2020 right is the pandemic is hitting as we were talking about. Okay, we have a little bit of money. How fast can we build a lot of housing to try to get a lot of people out of shelters and and to into individual units? And uh you know, I, think Jim and the entire team just hit a home run in the first three projects?

C

They were really hard, but folks moved fast and and got a lot done, and a lot of hundreds, more than 700 of our residents uh have had a chance to get back on their fee as a result and I just think. That's fantastic, so I want to thank everybody for the hard work. um I uh I want to just ask a couple quick questions. One is about there's a lot of issues about the park and ride utilization at this site um at cuddle and I know a little bit about this since I'm a VTA board.

C

Member and I know. We wish that all these Park and Ride Lots were really full. So we'd have full light rail cars, but in fact we have the lowest uh I. Think that I think the very lowest uh um fare box return on light rail of any system in the United States outside of Orlando I. Think uh because Walt Disney operates his system for free.

C

So we uh we're a mightily challenge for ridership I I just want to check in based on your conversations, Omar or Jim, with the team at VTA how they felt about the utilization of this lot and the fact that they are going to continue some portion of it. I believe they're, just giving us a corner of it is that right.

DE

Yes, Mary, you know in talking with VTA, um they feel like a number of their Park and Ride Lots along that part of the light rail system are underutilized um and, and they are willing to work with us on this one I I think if we were asking them for three sites and we're going to take up all their capacity in the area, I think it would be a different conversation.

DE

They are further looking into the records and I think one aspect of it is: they feel like it's being used for non-transit purposes as well, and you know I think there's a big employer and facility kind of right next to it, and you know maybe we need to think about how do we maybe not have that used for that purpose and and have that parking happen elsewhere, but we'll we'll definitely have those conversations with VTA about how do we ensure that light? Rail usage is still uh you know, not.

DE

You know not impacted by this as best we can I think that that that's something that we definitely need to focus on with them.

DB

It's important.

DE

For us for a lot of reasons as well sure I think we're dealing with just a a unsheltered crisis, that's kind of epidemic proportions and that's why I think we're willing to to make some of these trade-offs.

C

Yeah yeah agreed: um okay, thank you and then, finally, that that slide, you put up uh last time the slide number three. If we could just take one last, look at it around the distribution of units in the city I, just you know, we presented it once and then we heard a lot of public testimony about how South San Jose is overly burdened. I just want to make certain we're really clear.

C

um Could we put up that slide again.

DA

Yeah, if we can we'll get it back up and then also while they're pulling it up yeah page 19 of the memo there.

C

We go yeah page 19, Amendment describes it by District, yeah, right, yeah and, and it's it's not a close call. I just want to assure everybody.

C

uh Well, we've got a lot more of these to build and we're going to build them in lots of parts of the city, but I can assure you, uh for the most part, uh the overwhelming concentration of units that we're providing uh one way or another, whether it's shelter housing is somewhere between council members, uh Davis, sparzas and paralysis, districts up in Central, San, Jose uh and and clearly the data bears that out.

C

um I I know that there's lots of concern about whenever we talk about things like no encampment zones, and we can certainly call them something else, and there are variations and I know uh that we can consider and I understand. Staff has considered this very deeply, but I would associate myself with the comments that council member Mahan, which is our goal, is to build as fast and nimbly as possible as many units as we possibly can to get as many human beings off the street into safe, dignified housing.

C

I think we all agree on that basic premise and we can only and we're already seeing uh the challenges we've experienced this in every public meeting. We've had I think Jim more ball. Put it exactly right. What every resident in this city prefers is that this get built as far away from them as possible, and we've got to do something to enable us to be able to build in every District in every community, and so if we can only move at the speed of trust and we need to show neighborhoods that were committed.

C

The one thing that will undermine our progress is when we come to a meeting like this, and somebody shows a photograph that goes viral. That shows one of our housing communities. That's built and literally 50 feet away or two tents, a neighborhood is going to say. Why are we burying the responsibility for housing, our unhoused neighbors? At the same time, our other neighborhoods are not bearing that responsibility, we're bearing the responsibility for housing, they're, unhoused Neighbors on our streets.

C

On top of that, we have to be able to demonstrate that there's Community benefit in the communities immediately and I. Think that's important I think we can do it without criminalizing homelessness, I think we can do it without it being punitive I think we can do it if, in fact, we have a model uh and I'm still also not convinced it always involves the police by the way. But we can talk more about that I'm sure in depth.

C

Offline I think there are ways we can do this, that simply encourage folks to move along, if they're within, say a five-minute walk shed of an existing housing community where we're trying to house 150 or 200 people who have just come off the street. And yes, there are occasionally issues. We know out in tents and encampments, around drug use and other things and I think we'd probably want those issues as far away from our housing communities as possible, and so I think.

C

There's reason for us to say- and this is not just us- it's considering it so Oakland did this actually very effectively when they were moving communities into.

C

um Although I would disagree with the with the means they use with the shed communities, I think we we all recognize here, that we want more dignified housing and better quality housing, but they kept people together as they were moving them from encampments, and then they created entire zones where there wouldn't be any encampments, because they didn't want to have those challenges uh both for the residents that they're housing, as well as the house residents and the neighborhoods around so I. Just think.

C

We should at least ask the question and ask more questions and what I'm proposing in this memorandum is just that we come back and allow the next Council to be able to consider this within radius. In this case of roughly a thousand feet, I think that's, probably a two and a half minute walk shed, I, don't I, don't know exactly, but I'm guessing staff will come up with a better indicator.

C

uh So that we can address what any council member Mayhem has described as a Basic Marketing problem, um you know, despite everybody's best efforts and let's face it, we've seen what the data says. The data says this: these make communities safer, not less safe, but nonetheless we're going to have a real marketing problem to the extent that we see encampments intent around the the housing communities that we're building so uh I think that'll enable us to move faster in the long run. I think will enable us to build a lot more units and.

BO

C

That's what I'm hoping we can accomplish so I I would appreciate consideration of my memorandum. I guess with councilmember mahan's as well. I'd also incorporate some of the concerns I think raised by council member Jimenez I would be willing to support a motion that would say essentially that we as a council are approving all three of those sites that were identified. Obviously with Primacy given I'm sorry I'm, referring to the three sites in South San Jose were Primacy given uh did the caudal site, but with staff having the discretion.

C

If, for example, I know Jim you're meeting with this representative tomorrow, if ultimately staff learns that, through its investigation of that site, as well as the caudal site, that hey there's a better way and we should pivot, then staff should have the ability to do that and do that. Nimbly and so I'd be happy to support something that says that, but we're recognizing that we are going full speed ahead unless there's some significant change of circumstances, um so I would be quite happy to support a motion that did all those things. I know.

C

We have part of that motion on the floor. uh Councilmember Cohen, if you're willing to consider a friendly, Amendment, I've.

CZ

Been waiting for the questions? Okay, so.

C

I just invited.

CZ

The question: what was it 45 minutes ago, yeah.

C

Yeah so I just gave you a very long-winded, a friendly Amendment.

CZ

uh You know I, look this. This is to do a study and come back with an MBA, so I I don't have a problem with that. I mean I. Think it's a reasonable thing to study. Most of what you're asking for is reasonable things to investigate. I I, don't have any problem with investigating it. We we've hashed out a couple weeks ago concerns that I and others have about some of the ideas in there. That doesn't mean that we're implementing it just one quick question for staff. What we're saying here is a.

CZ

What was it a? What was the distance 10 minute right now, service enhancement? That would be the policy unless we at some NBA point change it I guess. If we approve the, we would approve that and.

DB

CZ

We would say, let's study, other options and see whether shortening it gives us more resources to be able to do additional things. I'm. Okay, with that I'll just I'll just say. My concern has always been that you know you. You obviously I, there's a there's a valuable goal here. We want people to to see the benefit and feel feel good about it.

CZ

We also I mean I, don't think, there's a lot of evidence that in many of the places where you even have the problem, but we ought to you know, look into that, but if we, if we're saying we want every neighborhood to say, I want in order to fix this problem, you're going to have to build me a site. We're not gonna, have the resource to build a site everywhere. We're not going to be.

CZ

You know able to say that every District even has a viable site, even if we wanted one or every neighborhood has a viable site. So I'm just concerned that in some interim period, what we're doing is saying the places that don't have viable sites and can't have them are where everyone's going to congregate and we just cause a bigger problem. That's been my concern, but I'm happy to accept this as a friendly Amendment now and study it and then re-convene and discuss it further. When it comes back so they they can say.

C

Yes, thanks for coming so I appreciate the friendly amount of acceptance of is that, okay with the secondary? Thank you I appreciate you accepting the memorandum uh and then, with regard to the idea of uh empowering staff on the three sites. Isn't.

CZ

That already in the kind of in the memo I mean as far as I thought, it was kind of says. If a better side's come along, you can implement or is it or do we need to specify.

DE

That it does, it says, pursue the surrounding caudal sites while continuing to pursue other identified sites. We would do that along the lines that I described, accounts.

CZ

DE

I think once we conclude that which one we're going with, we.

DA

DE

Form the council, through an info memo.

DA

DE

Done our final work on it and then what came out of that process and where we're moving forward, that's.

C

Acceptable council, member Menace, yeah, okay,.

DA

Thank you mayor one thing just just to clarify this point, because it's going to impact how we actually do the the homework uh on this issue of a no encampment, um the council member Mayhem, mentioned earlier the notion of like the general public notion of of a no encampment being um a reference to people in intents or structures.

DA

um You know attachment M, and the memo includes an issue we had around six. You know the the moving of an oversized vehicle six different times over the course of a year or something because uh one of the challenges in terms of doing the homework that you're talking about is how to. If we're, including things like that, there are ordinance issues. There are the just additional staff work that we have to think through internally, so I want to make sure what it is that we're?

DA

What we're being asked by the council mayor council to do well.

C

As I think about uh arguments that were made back in the spring, I want to say in May when we were before the council, I can remember two speakers coming to us saying: roof Ferrari isn't solving anything, look at all these RVs that are parked out in front so I guess what I'm saying is I I'd like to be able to say to whatever Community that's getting one of these housing communities you're not going to have both right you're not going to have both a housing community and a substantial number of unhoused residents in the same space.

DA

So that that, fortunately thanks to Olympia Andrea beautify that area Roof Ferrari all all clear on.

C

That thank you by the way yeah.

DA

And their staff and team- yes, all clear, uh we went out there and made sure there's a couple: there's two RVs that are neatly parked uh nearby, but that.

R

DA

That was jammed up. My point, though, is the important distinction is when we start talking about oversized vehicles to go back to the RV parking memo earlier today there are some Department of Transportation San Jose PD other issues around what's involved, so I just wanted to get that Clarity so that when we huddle internally we can, we can make sure to come back fully.

C

Okay, I'd be happy to talk more offline.

DA

C

Because it sounds like there's some some issues in the weeds: okay, all right other comments or questions, councilmember, Cohen, I,.

CZ

Did just very briefly, while we're negotiating with VTA for the on the Cerrone site and I think I mentioned this before, and this this may or may not be possible and I know. Vta has thoughts about what they're doing in the long term. It's a big enough space that we don't necessarily have to limit ourselves to 100 units. So we ought to consider you know how much space we can get and what we should do with it.

CZ

If we can get more out of it and make it more cost, you know better bang for our buck and also serve more people. I just wanted to bring that up, and even if that means, potentially we can get the space to to combine it with an RV parking right on the same site, because it really is land that, in theory for now could lend itself to a lot of service.

CZ

Let's, let's consider that I just wanted to bring that up before we finish the debate and then just mention that it's important for everyone to keep in mind that the success of the site is that about 60 of the people within a year or less are moved on to other places and other housing. This isn't just serving 100 people.

CZ

A hundred bed site serves up to 150 or more people per year, so this is a really valuable.

CZ

um Temporary housing site and I just want to make sure that was part of this discussion to get that out there and that's it. Thank you.

C

Thank you, councilman very fully agree. All right, I think we got a motion. um Oh forgive me. Councilman, sparz, I didn't see that thank.

DN

You um I had a question about the MBA that is coming back so uh to the Future Council, so the MBA is going to include the costs um around uh the options around reducing the walk, shed, the costs of options, including the no encampment Zone uh within a similar radius and uh the cost of the options of repurposing. Some are all on-site security costs for bhc.

DN

So a couple of comments, one if we are going to include a pretty wide, no encampment Zone will that MBA also come back and look at the other setbacks that we will have established in the city around schools and walkways to schools, daycare centers and the like. Is that going to be included in this MBA.

DC

Councilor respirator John disarelli.

CI

DC

Don't have direction to look at that at this point, the direction in front of us is is to shrink the space and include uh the things that you talked about. um So at this point, we're not looking at other setbacks in other areas, be that schools or any other sites.

DN

Huge benefit because right now tonight, right now we are talking about tiny homes, or you know, bhcs, eihs um and and and we're talking about setbacks and a pretty wide one right what's in front of us is a thousand feet from a tiny home site and we're not looking at it in totality around other setbacks that are in the community that we will hear about and that do have costs um and I.

DN

I know this, because my office gets all the calls as I'm sure everyone else's does and we have a setback around schools of 150 feet. So we're saying that our setback around schools is across the streets, but for a tiny home site.

DN

We're saying that we will enforce a setback to what eight times that so I think what will help the future council is really to see the costs of that and the options of that in totality, so that, since we're talking about what the community is hearing from us from the city and and the marketing problems that we may or may not have I think the community would like to hear that we have thought through a matrix.

DN

If you will of setbacks and the related costs and services Associated to sensitive sites across the city and so I'm, just bringing that up, because you know if we have a marketing problem or we don't we're telling folks hey, you know what we're going to enforce this: no encampment Zone, uh half a mile or a quarter of a mile from a tiny home site, but where we're gonna, let tents and encampments go across the street from your neighborhood, School I.

DN

Think that's an even bigger marketing problem and the future council is going to have choices to make around those things and is going to need to know the costs related to that.

DN

The second thing I wanted to bring up, is uh you know, since we're talking about marketing problems? If we go to a community and we tell them we're not going to provide security or we're going to cut the cost of security for this site so that we can do trash pickup or whatever around the area.

DN

um You know I, think I I, think that's I, don't know if that's creating a new concern or alleviating a current one, and so I think I understand exactly what the mayor is.

DN

Trying to do and and I agree, I think the future council is going to have to make some difficult financial decisions, um but really the future council is going to need to look at those options, because security is something that I think residents are expecting um and and by the way residents that live in the tiny homes as well as residents in the neighboring area.

DN

um And so those are just my comments about that I'm. You know um the direction today is around tiny homes, but as we look at these setbacks and the radius and the radius and the costs of no encampment zones, we really need to look at um other sensitive areas that this Council has already approved, such as schools and day cares. That's it for me.

C

You can't swim, I, I, I, think and hope that the future councils will look at these I think as unique, there's going to be unique needs, depending on which subpopulations we're serving uh and perhaps how the the communities are are working in their surrounding environment, so I suspect security needs will vary uh as well as other issues. So in any event, I know that's that's for for further exploration as we uh as we get more built. Okay, uh any other comments. I have a yeah yeah.

DH

You know there was a discussion about uh that. I think uh Kaiser employees are using the VTA, Park and Ride lot. I think that's probably the case and I think part, but but I think my wife works there, but part of the reason I think that happens, and she doesn't do that, but is is that is, is the is that is that they don't have enough parking on their campus and they're struggling with them. They're actually going to be rebuilding that hospital and so I'm curious.

DH

And if, if anyone from the team and I know this is additional work or phone call and I can certainly reach out, but if anyone's reached out to Kaiser to see what type of impact it would have to essentially take that away. Even though it's not I know it's not theirs right and they're utilizing a space that belongs to VTA but curious. If that's been explored.

DE

It hasn't, um you know it it, so it has okay, all.

DH

Right I'll reach out to someone and then I'll I'll. Let you know what they tell me: I mean for what it's worth I think that's it's an important thing to consider. Thank you. Councilmember Pros.

DO

Yeah, thank you. Mayor I just had a question because I I had a concern about um the item two from your memo, but I actually appreciate now that it's really just looking for an MBA. So it's kind of a more of a future looking question as well. But what what kind of challenges do we run into legally?

DO

As we start to include more and more of these, uh you know so-called no, no encampment zones um right essentially everywhere in the city, is more or less a known, encampment Zone today, um but we have people camping in our parks and our waterways, our streets right um and we we don't necessarily have won the resources uh to go out and and enforce. That is as frequently as we may be be interested and we have challenges with the state laws currently write different challenges.

DO

You were running into being delayed um at Columbus, Park and and so I'm just curious. What what sort of legal challenges might that bring? If we continue to add um to this list of no no encampment zones.

DP

Thank you, councilmember I think that's a this is a Norah Freeman, City attorney I. Think that may be a question um for me and my office has been working with staff on um the the legal issues and we will continue to do that um case. Law continues to develop along those lines and we've been in discussions. My office has reached out to Oakland Los Angeles, some other cities on how they're managing um some of those ideas and restrictions, and we will continue to do that with staff. There are legal issues, but they're not insurmountable.

DP

At this point,.

DO

Okay, thank you. Yeah and I recognize it's just a an MBA, so this will be a discussion that the council will have next year and considering that that's the request that I think if it was if it was the other way around, if we were actually looking to accept that as a addition additional requirement today, it's something I wouldn't be able to support and I likely, wouldn't support it through the MBA process next year.

DO

But uh you know I think that um you know I I can be comfortable accepting it now is just a direction on on an MBA.

DQ

I think we should be focusing.

DO

The conversation not on on where people cannot.

DQ

Encamp, because again, we essentially already have that rule throughout our entire city today and we should be focused on where they can, because clearly, that's the more challenging one um and I wasn't planning on on adding um this Edition, but I. Think considering we're asking just for this. Mba um I am going to ask that we um also add additional language on the.

DO

Mba that we um we, that staff resubmit.

DQ

An MBA on the analysis of sanctioned encampments and that that also come back then to the to the Council next year during the budget process, kind of a re-update um to that MBA I think that truly should be the conversation that should be had um I. Think that's the the one piece of the pie that we still have not endeavored down, and um it's really the first rung of the ladder as far as I see it where we could attempt to to achieve even better results.

DQ

If we, if we had that opportunity to rather than just tell people where they can't be, um and maybe while I'm chatting about this Steph, can you pull up the the slides that you had I think they were 19 and 20.

DQ

um the the they were labeled, 19 and 20 on the slide? I, don't know if they were actually 19 to 20, but essentially, where uh I think it was John. That stated, you know here's here's kind of what what happens when we create a no encampment Zone.

DO

DQ

Me know when you, when you got that up.

CZ

Yeah I mean I yeah I. Think I'll accept that because I think it's a good conversation for the next Council to have so I'd be happy to uh accept that Amendment.

DA

DP

To go to 19., yes, I accept.

DQ

I appreciate that and and appreciate that the council will just have an opportunity to to talk about that next year is again another alternative, um but just I I I. Really, you know I I think this yeah thank you that 19 and then you can swap to 20, essentially just demonstrating right. It doesn't solve the problem and we all know that right, saying: hey, let's Abate an encampment or let's not allowing encampment here I get the argument of.

DO

um You know that that we're trying to.

DQ

Create some sort of uh you know win for the immediate Community or perception that that you know we're solving the problem, but we know in reality we're not. We know in reality, what we're doing is just moving it a little bit further away, and so that's why I think we're focused on The Wrong conversation if we're focused on hey.

DQ

Let's continue to add to the list of places where people can't camp or where we're gonna, add extra enforcement for people where they shouldn't camp and instead we should be continuing to talk about places where, where they can so I appreciate you, including that uh in the motion I'll be able to to.

DO

Support thanks.

C

Councilman, what's going to be great, is that, since neither of us are going to have any vote whatsoever in this matter, I look forward to having my two minutes with you uh when we're coming to the to employ the next Council to do whatever it is, we think they should do.

DQ

I'll join you I'll, join you.

C

Yes, absolutely: okay, uh I think. Did we get everybody all right, I think it's all been said. Let's vote.

D

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I Davis, yes, Esparza, yes, Uranus, yes, Foley I, Mayhem,.

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DK

Ricardo hi, thank you. Okay, mayor um can I have a point of order. uh It.

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DK

Know pretty late and we have some land use items that we definitely have to get through tonight. So I wanted to uh suggest that we defer items 8.4 and 8.5 to next week. It it and then have us work it out in in rules tomorrow.

C

Okay, so the suggestion from the vice mayor is that we would hear 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4. Is that right, yes, defer, 8.4 and 8.5 for a week? Yes, that's correct if.

DG

That's emotional! Second, it okay.

C

That seems to be emotion and it seems to be a second. Are there any concerns with that? My colleagues, okay.

D

I do have I have some public speakers for 8.4.

C

Yeah understood we we wouldn't take public testimony today. uh I think the point: would you hear the public Testament the time we're deciding the matter? That's.

DK

C

Okay, I'm not hearing anybody, raise their hand in objection or concern. So let's vote on the motion to defer 8.4 and 8.5.

D

Jimenez hi Corrales.

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D

Hi Davis, yes, Esparza, yes, Uranus hi, Olie, hi, Mayhem,.

A

Hi Jones hi, Ricardo hi.

C

Okay, let's um could I ask everybody, please um I know a lot of folks would like to leave. We don't blame you, uh please leave quietly, because we need to continue with this meeting, so you can have lots of conversation outside the door after the door closes. Please don't have the conversation here. If you just quietly leave. We appreciate it mayor.

DG

Can I may I just say something? Yes,.

C

DG

Thank the transportation dot staff and the planning department for sitting for.

C

DG

So long and then we'll see you next week.

C

Yes, thank you for all your suffering.

C

Oh, what we do to people all right here. We go um item 10.2.

C

We all need to hear down here. Thank you item. 10.2 is special use, permit investing tentative map and preservation permit for the property at 147 East Santa Clara Street uh North 4th Street in East St John Street. There is a presentation, welcome Robert, Chris.

DR

Thank you, mayor Chris Burton, director of planning, building code enforcement, I'm joined by Robert Manford, um and we also have other staff available by Zoom the project before you is uh the iclan echo project. This is uh one of our three downtown projects that we're bringing before you tonight um that have been moving through our process for some time.

DR

um So just quickly, I'll go through the presentation relatively quickly. The project involves the demolition of an existing building, uh roughly 20 000 feet and then the construction of two buildings, the first a 24-story building, which is 525, 000 square feet of office, space with 8 500 square feet of ground, floor, retail and then the second building, which constitutes 27 stories of residential uh 415 multi-family units and the project does include construction hours on a Saturday from 7am to 7 P.M.

DR

So, just a quick reminder that the property has both a downtown General plan designation and a DC downtown primary commercial zoning District. The project is consistent with both, as well as the downtown design guidelines and standards um and staff has followed Council policy 6-30 in completing the project moving it forward. Foreign draft environmental impact. Sorry, a draft supplemental environmental impact report um that was put out for a 45-day comment period, less than significant impacts with mitigation included, included construction, air quality, biological resources, cultural resources, tribal cultural resources, hazards and construction, noise and vibration.

DR

Significant unavoidable impacts included cultural resources for historic and land use related to impacts to the St James Square City, Landmark District. So, if approved, Council will need to include the adoption of a statement of overrideen considerations.

DR

um The project did receive six comments on the supplemental eir. um A First Amendment with uh response to comments was posted back in October. None of the comments raised any issues that required recirculation of the supplemental eir and then excuse me so.

DR

um Lastly, if I can just get the clicker to work, staff is recommending approval of the project which includes the adoption of a resolution certifying the supplemental eir approving subject to conditions the special use permit. That includes the demolition of the existing building and the construction of the new buildings.

DR

Adoption of a resolution approving the vesting tentative map and then also the adoption of a resolution approving the historic preservation permit for the demolition of the three non-contributing buildings and the construction of the the new tower, the new residential Tower, the echo Tower and with that staff, is available for questions, and we have the whole team here now.

C

Okay, welcome whole team and thank you for your patience with our late meeting um all right, so uh we have five minutes for the applicant, but I should warn the applicant. You've got a favorable recommendation from the staff, uh so don't feel obligated still defeat from the jaws of victory.

C

I didn't mean to say you shouldn't speak I just wanted to encourage you. I know it's late, so hello, Josh good to see you feel free to come on down and say hello.

DS

Thank you mayor and Council. uh We will keep this brief. uh Josh Burroughs here CEO at Urban, Catalyst and I. Have my partner Paul ring with me, and our project manager, Peter, solar.

DT

Thing can we have Alex cenino added to the.

DS

C

The screenshot he's on he's on Zoom right now: Alex, yeah, Alex and Nino. Can you bring him a board attorney? Okay,.

D

He's moving now, foreign.

D

He's in as a panelist he can unmute at will.

C

Okay, so he's a panelist now yeah yeah, okay, Alex, welcome. Thank.

DI

DI

The button to share my screen is: uh if I could share my presentation. You.

D

Should be able to, everybody, has permission to share.

DI

Yeah gotcha here we go. Thank you.

I

I know long process for us getting to this night.

C

I understood I think I first heard about this project about a dozen years ago, so I'm glad to see it.

DS

We were so excited uh to present, icon and Echo to you today um this evening and we hope it'll be one of the best examples of a Transit oriented development. Here in the city, it's been a labor of love assembling these block pieces that make up the project. My own personal experience goes back at the site, which is just across from City Hall back to when I was two years old.

DS

My dad was actually the pastor at First Presbyterian Church there for over two decades, so I'd spend my youth all the way through college at church, volunteering at the Town Park Towers senior apartments, next door and I really got to witness the city grow around us on a weekly basis. I look back now at typical Sunday volunteer and then go to what was formerly in McDonald's, which is now housing a thousand students at the grad project. I'd go over to my mom's office. She used to run Envision homeless, Services, actually out of the old Victorian.

DS

This is right where this dice was, and now we have a beautiful city hall in that place, so, whether it's icon and echo or the other projects going on in the city or New City Halls, the city goes through new iterations builds upon itself each year towards that Dynamic downtown that we all envision.

DS

There are a ton of community benefits on this project. I just wanted to list a few that we're very excited about a big one, being the 3 000 plus residents and workers. That would be at this project, supporting our local small businesses and non-profits, and also providing ridership to our biggest Transit investment in the history of the city, with the BART extension through downtown.

DS

We're excited that we're in the St James Park Management District, which was put in place years back, so that our Parks fees can go towards both maintenance of the park and Capital Improvements, and we hope that part of that could go towards that new level billion providing family-friendly concerts at St, James Park.

DS

We're excited to be tripling the size of the usable square feet and building a turnkey new backyard for Town Park, Towers residents um and, lastly, it may sound weird, but we're actually really excited about the increase in property taxes um when you remove a bunch of single-story non-contributing buildings and replace them with projects like this.

DS

That's where you get 10x annual property taxes increased and that's how we provide sustainable income sources for the city's general fund to provide services for police fire, keeping libraries open seven days a week, Paving roads and other social services everything's tied to the built environment. So we appreciate your consideration tonight. I know: Peter wanted to mention a couple things as.

DT

Well, yes, thank you. Thank you. Josh and I'll be very quick. First I want to thank the staff for all their help to get us where we are today. You know it's been in our process and we really appreciate it also in addition to the community benefits that Josh mentioned.

DT

I also want to add that we'll be we'll be providing 20 million dollars in Combined fees in affordable housing over the life of the project, five million dollars in park fees, 1.5 million dollars, Local Schools, 2.5 million dollars in construction Texas to the city, and he met, as you mentioned, 10 million dollars, an annual property taxes, we're currently paying currently paying 450 000, so it'll be a big big jump, uh seven million dollars worth of sight, a street and sidewalk improvements, and then the 10 million investment to Town Park Towers, which includes the turnkey Courtyard, upgrade utilities and uh and uh secured parking.

DT

This is a site plan of the uh of the courtyard. As you can see, we added we increased uh the Courtyard by by actually allowing it to to go onto our property and as well as we program the courtyard, with the Tai Chi area, a a dining area, gaming tables and an area to to grow vegetables. So this is obviously a big Improvement and then the last thing I wanted to point out. Is the community outreach there's a tremendous amount of Outreach on this project and we also received 12 support letters.

DT

Everything that has an asterisk is where we receive this a support letter each each group. uh So thank you for your consideration and uh look forward to having further conversation.

C

Thank you very much for your presentation and for your investment in our city. Okay, uh let's go to the public first and we'll come back to the council.

D

BI

Holly saberman San Jose resident um here on behalf of housing, Action Coalition, strong support of this project, great use of of land, adding over 400 residential units and up to 2000 jobs and a future BART station will be a great vision for Transit oriented development that the city really needs to achieve and we'll add great foot traffic and vibrancy to the downtown core that it absolutely deserves. Thank you so much and have a great night.

D

Catherine, hedges.

AD

Hi um Catherine, this is Catherine Hedges I am not representing A specific group. Now I live across the street, um although they reach out to me, and eventually they have not done any kind of outrage to the tenants as a whole in either building talking about the um construction problem.

AD

You know the the I'm sorry I'm I'm, really tired um the problems that we're going to have with the construction of their building and they reached out to me individually, but not to anybody else in my building and I haven't, had a chance to talk to them and there's going to be zero, affordable housing in this building and zero in Lou fees, because they're downtown they get an exemption from paying into the affordable housing fund and I'm, just disgusted that everybody thinks this is fantastic good night.

DU

Good evening, council members and Mr Mayor, my name is Liz moronte I'm, vice president of public policy, with the Bay Area Council, we represent about 300 of the Region's largest businesses and I'm, proud to be here tonight to support this project. We invited an iconic folks to our endorsement committee for consideration and was unanimously and quickly approved. This is exactly the type of project that we need to move our region forward. We need homes, we need jobs, we need them centrally, located in downtowns, close to a dense, good, reliable public transportation.

DU

Network, there's really just nothing not to like about this project and I strongly urge your support for it. Thanks.

DV

Evening, mayor and Council I'll keep this brief. uh Vince Rocher from the Silicon Valley leadership group. Our members have endorsed this project. For all the reasons Mr morante said it's centrally located. I need one of our biggest Transit Investments for the city ever which the leadership group has long supported. So we hope you approve this project tonight. Thank you, foreign.

DW

And uh yeah I also am very frustrated that there's not any affordable housing being built.

DW

um The person who presented and mentioned how it was in the St James Management District I'm like well, are any of the folks who live in St, James, Park gonna be able to live there and it's not enough just to have things be affordable, because that means 80 of the average median income versus 30 or even lower, and that's what we really need and it's just continuing to contribute to our homelessness crisis, because people aren't able to afford to live in such a nice area having access to Transit having access to jobs.

DW

It's like we want to make. We want to continue to live here. We just cannot afford to live here.

D

AU

Good evening, honorable mayor in esteemed city council, my name is Tony Miranda and I'm. Current board, chair for the San Jose Chamber of Commerce I, also serve as chair for the chambers, housing and land use policy committee. That committee is made up of design construction and real estate Professionals, in addition to a diverse group of local, small mid-sized and large corporate businesses, as well as some educational institutions, the icon, Echo mixtures project was presented to our group for analysis and potential support.

AU

After hearing the presentation, we discussed their project in some detail and ultimately move to unanimously recommend a formal position of support for the iconoco project. We have done so with the letter sent to all of you on behalf of our entire board of directors. We do so because the project fits within the city's General plan. It's the right site for a project, this magnitude and type while providing housing and economic boost by adding over 400, badly needed housing units and the project promotes both new housing and business in the downtown core. Please please.

B

DX

If you think honorable council members, my name is Aiden Marshall speaking on behalf of Silicon Valley residents for responsible development, Silicon Valley residents is an unincorporated association of individuals and labor organizations whose members who are going to work with today's San Jose Silicon Valley residents urges the city council not paper project at the time, but then send direct airs in the FDA or and address the product failure to provide affordable housing.

DX

We provided written comments with supporting substantial evidence that the ncar does not adequately disclose and analyze and mitigate potentially significant.

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DX

Quality Public Health, greenhouse gas and Hazards impact as a result of the Phoenix and policy and consistency, the city, economic, defining to improve the product experiments. We respectfully request the city council, not.

D

DY

Honorable mayor city council, this is Victor Gomez here speaking on behalf of the Downtown Association, uh not going to take up a ton of your time. We appreciate your your long work this evening, but really just wanted to express our support for this project and certainly want to thank Josh when his team uh for the work that they're doing on this project they've did a an amazing job. We admire the the work that Urban Catalyst has has done in the surrounding Community, especially the neighboring Town Park Towers.

DY

So we really support this project and and hope the San Jose downtown Association can uh count on your support. Thank you.

D

Mike sottergren.

DZ

Good evening, council.

AN

Members, honorable mayor.

DZ

um uh Pack, San Jose is not uh in opposition to this particular project, but did want to make three points.

DZ

um First, uh the project does include three uh non-contributing structures within the St James historic district, which caused um an analysis that said that the building height nearest to the St James Park should not have been as high as it is currently um and uh while uh pack agrees that the irregular lines of the historic district probably indicate um that that is appropriate, it wasn't addressed and that so it was a sloppy use of a financial hardship to justify the project and also we should be preserving the Tommy Smith and John Carlos mural. Thank you.

D

AV

uh Yes from the Horseshoe I was at that particular meeting when it was held with the historical landmarks District you're, going to cover up that mural okay. So it's disgusting that the city continues to moralize and and and adopt this this this this this kind of like moral imperative to protect the poor when you continually continually create market rate housing at an accelerated rate. That is what is accelerating the homeless issues in this city and you're doing it in order to protect the viability of people that aren't even residents of this city.

AV

Yet because you continue to serve market rate housing because of the residents that you have planned to come here to San Jose at the expense of the residents that are already here. This is disgusting, and what you did is that the historical landmarks commission voted 5-0 to turn this down. I want that talked about.

D

Back to council.

C

Okay, thank you all right, uh councilman Perez.

DQ

Yeah, thank you very much and appreciate the work on this and um I think there's some thanks to be given to a council and City staff that predates uh even our mayor's time here in the vision that they had on relocating City Hall over to where we're at today and really expanding and growing uh downtown uh to the East and we've seen it with one of the the most beautiful high rises that we have in the tallest building in the city right now across the street mural Towers.

DQ

If you're in City Hall in a taller building, you can look down and see their pool and see the the vibrancy of the building there and certainly I know for City staff, they've already taken advantage of the Starbucks on the ground floor and we're looking forward to the opening of a restaurant in the corner. This is now I think another step in in that direction, really again following the lead of the city that made an investment out here in in uh the Eastern edge of downtown um and so I just wanted to to say.

DQ

Thank you to The Visionaries uh that again predate uh every member on this Council and and really the opportunity that we've now had to expand and grow downtown. As we know, we can get taller as we go further east, and so that's why we've had the opportunity to get some of these. These actual uh real high-rise buildings. So it's exciting to see that level of investment um and want to say thank you to the thermocatalyst team for your investment here in uh the downtown core of San Jose.

DQ

uh Thank you for your support and investment of the senior living facility that you're abutting and really the the benefit that they'll be able to see out of that. It wasn't mentioned in their presentation, but it's in the report, but their uh fire Life Safety.

DQ

That's going to be enhanced for that building, as was now necessary, but I think really a benefit, something that they needed regardless and that now they're going to be able to to have on that site um and and then I wanted to speak a little bit to the historic nature, because some of my colleagues not be may not be aware of the Saint James uh historic district and the boundaries that are there. When I first came in office.

DQ

I became very very well aware of this, because we had a project literally across the street and and I actually fought on that project to preserve uh the old uh First Church of Christ scientists and uh that to this day, we're still working to fight to to make sure that it gets tarped and covered I. Know people think that it's ugly but we're actually saving it by tarping it every single year or requiring the the owner there to tarp it.

DQ

But I really learned a lot about the the history and the interest that there was at a time to preserve the historical nature of that District. The St James Park District. But when you look at the details of what is required of projects there, there was it was. It was really a snapshot in time to say: um there's things like a building must have more stucco uh than than Windows.

DQ

uh You know space on on it um and you can tell that they were thinking of buildings that really looked uh very similar to what is there today and weren't necessarily looking at well. How might we progress?

DQ

How do we preserve the historical elements that are here, but how do we progress and build in a way that benefits and enhances them versus uh really keeps our downtown core with low dense development and things that may not fit the the elements um that our community is interested in today, and so I I worked to try and and find a happy medium um with that first controversial project uh during my first year and uh and I will say that that's been the interest that we've had is to try to find out. How do we?

DQ

How do we embrace what is great about St James Park, the historical buildings that are there? How do we preserve them, but how do we also allow for growth that complements those buildings? And- uh and so that's been my interest?

DQ

This is actually just a bit um outside the immediate surrounding, so it's kind of on the border, Edge um I think so even maybe a little less of a crucial element of adhering directly to the historical elements of the St James, Park District, but nonetheless, I think that our our applicants here have done a great job on ensuring that this is something that is going to benefit the entire Community there and ultimately, hopefully, St James Park, as well with the St James, Park, Management, District um and and I will just speak to the affordable housing element of it.

DQ

This is a this is indeed a you know, market rate project, that's contributing to our housing, need that we have it's: it's not going to be the Primitive Port of housing. But if you were following us on the last item, you may have noticed that there, the most clusters of uh you know some of the the emergency interim housing and Supportive Housing are right here in the downtown core.

DQ

We are creating those and I have made a a dedicated Focus over my eight years to ensure that we are building more and more affordable housing here in downtown, so we're doing that, while we're also building high-rise market rate dense housing. We need to do both absolutely and- and this is a complement to that work that we've done so I'm excited about it and and look forward to this breaking ground. I. Don't think we I, don't know if you heard my motion earlier over the zoom, so I'll move approval.

CE

C

Thank you uh all right. Other comments.

C

Is your screen not working okay, we'll go to concert calendar we'll go to counselor.

CZ

Just just quickly, this is sort of peripheral to this I I appreciate the project. I think it's great to add to the downtown core. I also want to I want to thank staff, because in previous projects, I have asked specifically for details about tree removal and tree replacement and I, see that in here and I just want to thank you for putting that in here.

CZ

um The number of replacement trees I'm going to use this, as my first mention, though, of the tree audit that we're starting to hear next week at the t, e committee meeting, that's going to come back to Council in January I'm, very frustrated to read that we are not necessarily uh enforcing our tree requirement that we're not necessarily following up and making sure that the trees are get planted. That are promised that the money that's supposed to be paid for tree replacement if trees aren't planted is getting collected.

CZ

We've foregone hundreds of thousands of dollars as a result of that loss of that that lack of enforcement- and it's also an environmental problem. So I I I appreciate that this is here and I hope that we'll make sure that those trees get planted and that will continue to do a better job in future projects. But thank you for putting that information in the memo.

C

Council member Jimenez yeah.

DH

I was just going to ask someone from the team if someone can come up and just talk a little bit about the timeline and what what the expectation is as it relates to getting shovels on the ground and US. Seeing some some work.

D

DS

Thank you for the question. uh We have an appointment to submit for building permit uh December, 16th I believe so. We've actually already it's different than some developers. We actually spec and spend the millions of dollars on the construction documents, even though we don't have approvals, and things like that, so just to save time and cut down the overall timeline so that we can get the project delivered quicker, ultimately, for the city, so we are planning on submitting building permit in December with uh summer. Groundbreaking is, is the goal of 2023.

DS

pending how fast we get through Public Works and build it yeah.

DH

Well, hopefully, we can help, but thank you so much appreciate it.

C

Guys don't go away anywhere. We got any more questions. uh If no one else does I do um just two quick questions. One is that what we saw on the screen is that the design I know designs can change between iterations of. Are we seeing the actual design um in in the slides.

DS

What was on the screen? Yeah.

C

Okay, that's a beautiful design. I really want to commend your team and and the architect it was really fantastic. Second question is, um and you've got two components here: residential and office.

C

um Certainly it takes courage to build residential right now, take something more than courage to build office. Is there a likelihood that you're going to perhaps build in phases or.

DS

It's possible and I know a lot. A lot of folks in our community are wondering about office in general, um Mary you're, well aware the bits and starts we've had over the decades.

CE

DS

um And there's blips in the valley, but we've gotten through all of those, um and so we we don't see any problem with with financing for the for the office. Fantastic.

C

I'm excited all right. Thank you. Thank you for bringing this to our city looks fantastic all right, any other questions, if not, let's vote Jimenez.

D

Aye Morales, yes,.

I

D

Aye Roscoe aye Davis, yes, Esparza, yes, Arenas, yes,.

C

D

C

All right uh now we're rolling 10.3 is a site development permit for South, 2nd Street effectively.

DR

Known as boat town, that is correct. Thank you, mayor um again, Chris Brown joined by Robert, Manford and now just to point out, joined by David Keon, uh Dana, Peak and John 2 in the Box, as well as staff available online.

DR

um So, yes, the project before you is a site development permit for uh the bow Town project located at 409 and 425 South, 2nd Street.

DR

It's a mixed use project that involves the demolition of the existing vacant, Boat Town Restaurant, which is eligible as a candidacity landmark and three accessory buildings, um the removal of two trees and then the construction of a 30-story mixed use, Tower, which includes 540 units and uh 7 400 square feet of commercial space. Again, this project includes extended construction hours that have been included in the project description. Similarly to the previous project, uh this site has a downtown General plan, land use, designation and a downtown primary commercial zoning District.

DR

The project is considered consistent with both, as well as the downtown design, guidelines and standards, um and a supplemental eir was completed with this project and to talk about that I'm going to hand it over to David Keon foreign.

EA

Principal planner in the city's environmental review team just want to very quickly go over the eir that was prepared for this project. It was a supplemental ER to the downtown strategy, 2040 eir at public circulation from April 29th to June 20 June 14th, um the First Amendment, which included responses to public comments, was published on October 14th.

EA

Significant unavoidable impacts were identified to air quality due to construction, especially for excavation and cultural resources. Do the demolition of an eligible City Landmark, the bow Town building. In addition, there was less and significant impacts identified to operational air quality, biological resources, cultural resources, hazards, hazardous materials, noise and construction vibration.

EA

um I did want to mention. Also. Yesterday there was a letter submitted by Museo Drury um on behalf of Labor's International United I'm, contesting the adoption of a supplemental eir. I would like to point out that this firm did not participate in the SQL process. They never submitted any comment. Letters during public circulation during the notice of preparation or prior to the Planning Commission hearing, so they've submitted a letter right at the very end. However, none of the issues raised in this letter are substantially requiring recirculation.

EA

They claim that this eir is an adequate Baseline and defers mitigations of hazardous materials, because a phase two has not been completed. It is not standard City practice to always require a phase two with with the project prior to project approval oftentimes. There are issues that a phase two soil investigation cannot occur due to existing uses on the site.

EA

Another claim was that the city did not Implement all feasible mitigation measures to reduce air quality health risk impacts like to mention that the health, the mitigation is based upon Bay, Area, Air, Quality, Management District guidelines, and the claim that was made was based upon this South, the Southern California Air District guidelines. However, the mitigation measures that have included the measures go beyond the back bed and construction guidelines and will reduce impacts as to the greatest extent feasible. I also want to mention that the commenters assert that the eir does not address greenhouse gas emissions.

EA

It does specifically in court connection to the analysis of the downtown strategy, 2040 eir and also the city's greenhouse gas reduction strategy. Finally, there's mentioned that this project does not properly evaluate indoor air quality impacts from from interior fixtures, especially formaldehyde. We want to mention that this is not a SQL issue. This is, they use Back Bay Area Air, Quality Management District guidelines for exterior sources of pollution to apply to indoor sources which is incorrect, and this is so it's not appropriate for sequa.

EA

The project will be constructed according to the most recent building codes, um it will ensure safety of occupants and with that I'd like to give it back to Chris Burton thanks.

DR

David, and so with that um staff's recommending uh approval of the project through the adoption of a resolution certifying the supplemental eir and the resolution improving the site, development and I believe a representative from the applicant West Bank is available online.

CL

C

uh From West Bank.

C

Welcome is it Andrew or Andrew welcome Andrew.

C

Are you able to hear us right now, I'm, oh he's being promoted, okay.

EB

Can you hear me? Yes, we can thank you promote uh Ernie Imani as well.

D

What was the first name.

EB

Ernest umani yeah.

D

Okay, he's coming over.

EB

EB

Cardo and the rest of the council, we really appreciate this opportunity. um We are bringing forward a really exciting project at uh uh the bow Town site. um This is a collaboration with James, Chang, Architects and Steinberg heart as the architect of record. uh We've done a number of projects with James Chang in the past, so we've done projects in Vancouver, Toronto Seattle and we're excited to bring another project to downtown San Jose so that'll hand it over to Ernie and um he'll, give a presentation.

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BF

EC

Can you hear me yeah okay, um so this project is a collection of projects by West Bank throughout the downtown um and just to introduce myself as I said, Ernie Imani, with Steinberg heart um I've had 45 years in San. Jose I'm really excited about what's happening in the downtown here today with this project and others. But this project specifically tries to honor the past history of Santa, Clara, Valley Orchards and also to respect I.

EC

Think the fact that there's a local restaurant that existed here since the 1960s, with a very distinctive architectural style um in the future, the orchard will bring nature to every unit and will be the most energy efficient and sustainable residential project ever built in the city we'll meet or exceed lead, platinum or LP standards for Net, Zero, carbon um and I believe this will set a new Benchmark for us as well. The project, as Steph mentioned, is 30 stories.

EC

540 units 194 cars, it's located on the corner of San, Salvador and 2nd Street and on the ground floor, there's a fair amount of amenities, the restaurant occupying the most prominent corner of the site, um keeping that Heritage alive adjacent to it is a courtyard to the South, which is shared by the lobby in the restaurant and then on the ground floor, a Lobby space and a West Bank branded Bicycle Club, as well as residential co-working spaces.

EC

The typical unit floor includes a mix of three bedroom: two-bedroom one-bedroom, some of those one bedrooms with dens and Studios the mix kind of in the left corner each unit having its own balcony and access to the nature. I mentioned with the Landscaping being maintained by West Bank.

EC

We have a very nice roof Terrace, which is a purely amenity space upstairs with an indoor outdoor pool outdoor Gardens party areas, Gem and Spa at areas and extensive Terrace areas for use by the residents.

EC

um So these are just a series of views to wrap up. You can kind of see the Boat Town Restaurant as against the backdrop of the landscape building and the roof top kind of picking up on that architectural character down below. This is a view from the north, um with the service entrance being kind of integrated, as well as the access to the parking and the ground street level.

EC

We have stone and glass with anodized gold mullions, which are warm in color kind of matching the original character of the botan restaurant kind of a view from the south along 2nd Street, and in this view you can kind of see how the prominence of the original restaurant is maintained and that's the original sign that will also be restored as part of projects and just a view of the top kind of picking up that architectural character. That I think will be prominent in the San Jose Skyline from distance, um and so that concludes it.

EC

Thank you um to the staff to the city, to our client and our partner. James Chang and we've had a good time with this and look forward to it being in addition to the city.

C

Thank you, Ernie. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you for bringing this eye-popping uh project to our city. uh Let's go to the public.

D

Okay, I'm gonna, move on to Victor.

DY

uh Honorable mayor lucardo and members of the council, this is Victor Gomez once again um here speaking on behalf of the Downtown Association um again, here speaking in favor of this project, this is potentially a game-changing project that will bring a large number of new residential units to this neighborhood. uh It was reviewed by our downtown design committee, where it exceeded our criteria in several areas, including the commitment to Sustainable, Building and energy practices and and committee appreciate. The committee appreciated the bike sharing program uh proposed for the tenant Community as well.

DY

So we thank you for the consideration tonight and just really wanted to express our support for this project. Thank you.

D

Mike soldergren.

DZ

Good evening commit um council members, uh Mr Mayor um just wanted to say that we are so happy that West Bank has embraced the integration of the 1960s googie style architecture into their design from top to bottom.

DZ

um We want to make sure that it remains a 24-hour operation and that it is welcome to all people at all times.

DZ

um We hope that the project will incorporate as many of the original elements as possible, including uh original fabric, if it's possible and would encourage a laser scan of the existing building before it's demolished, so that you can accurately recreate all of the angles.

DZ

um There's a lot of a lot of different angles on there that uh probably can't pictorially be captured. Thank you very much.

D

Alec Shore.

CG

Hey this is Alex Shore again with catalyze SV. Our members didn't review this project, but in looking at it it looks like there's over a thousand parking spaces, and it seems like this is right. Next to the Future BART station, which the developers talk about as well as some very robust transit in our downtown and I'm. Just wondering if, in fact, council is interested in talking about parking on that.

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AV

uh Yes, Paul Soto from the Horseshoe, thank you for pointing that out Alex, because it shows the contradiction and the hypocrisy what's going on in these policy decisions. So thank you for pointing that out. Secondly, this is on the site of the sambos restaurant, one of the most racist restaurants in the country. At that time. Okay, this one Carlos and Tommy Smith uh mural that you guys are going to destroy. They couldn't sit and eat at this restaurant either in the 1960s, okay, and so the racist in class policies.

AV

They continue to perpetuate the generational poverty in this city is sickening I mean you guys really are disgusting to me because you sit there with a straight face and a mocking laugh that is actually sadistic, because you know exactly what is going to happen to the citizens in the city once these structures are built, you know exactly.

D

Back to the council.

C

Okay, uh councilman Pros you're on a roll yeah.

DQ

Thank you actually excited, because uh even the next project as well. These are three projects that my office has worked closely on and, as we talked about over the last couple weeks about investment in high-rise in the downtown core, um these were really the the developers and the projects that I was inferring to when it comes to I think developers that are really close to pulling the trigger and Investments.

DQ

That could help us turn a corner uh that we haven't seen in quite some time, and so you know, we've made some tough decisions when it comes to incentivizing high-rise development in in downtown. We had those discussions and I appreciate my colleagues on the unanimous support um the other week and and I think.

DQ

This again is an example of of what we can achieve out of that, because they are very, very difficult projects to be able to to get off the ground, but I am actually confident that the the last one this one in in the next one are going to be able to do that. So I'm excited about actually seeing them uh get there, and- and this is uh the the important next step and um and there's a lot to be, to be proud about on this project.

DQ

Thank you, West Bank, for uh to working with incorporating the historic building that is here on site again being able to build densely in and amongst the downtown core, but not styming ourselves on that growth and West Bank has has proven so uh previously as well. You get the Davidson building that they're they're they're, helping to reimagine um and then finding opportunities here. It's not written into this one, but there's an opportunity.

DQ

We've been partnering with with West Bank on a hotel conversion, just adjacent to this building, where um we're we're in a a process and we'll be announcing soon um of being awarded, grant money from the state and uh and really just I, think a great opportunity and partner that we have in in West Bank someone that is looking at the historic elements of these buildings, something somebody that is looking at uh partnering in affordable housing, development um and so I want to say thank you to to them for for their investment.

DQ

And, as my colleagues have have noticed, and the mayor noted uh an eye-popping project, one that is fairly unique, one of the things that stood out right away, West Bank, is working with a number of world-renowned Architects and designers and and you'll see that the the building there something that really stands out of of a look that we haven't seen before with some of their buildings uh and one of the elements that they are attempting to incorporate is the um the tree canopy happening throughout the building um and the greenery really that they're trying to incorporate in their buildings.

DQ

um It's yet to be seen. Is that going to to happen? I, don't know, I haven't seen that done at this level, so I will say: I am uh I, am cautiously optimistic on this one, and so but I I, appreciate and I hope. My colleagues do too, because what it's doing these type of projects are pushing the boundaries for what we can see and what we should expect out of development in downtown I.

DQ

Think for for uh too long we were accepting um a sort of a status quo or a mediocre even of of a design of a building in Downtown, because we were so eager just to get anything off the ground and what we have with these buildings is really going to raise the bar and so I appreciate again. The partnership here with West, Bank and uh I will move to approve the uh or accept the staff recommendation.

BS

C

Right, thank you. Councilmember other comments from my colleagues.

C

I'll just jump in and say, I uh I appreciate all the comments that councilmember Pros made uh that this is really a great architectural addition to our Skyline and appreciate uh bring in great Architects as well as using great Architects. We have right here at home. uh Thank you Ernie for your contribution.

C

This is really stunning and uh Andrew Jacobson at West, Bank and uh and and Gary dilbo and everybody who's been involved over just uh so grateful to see great projects like this uh I think it raises everyone's aspirations here in the downtown to see these kinds of projects emerge and hopefully inspires others to join in so uh thrilled to see it moving forward. Any other comments all right. Let's vote Jimenez.

D

DQ

D

DQ

D

Roscoe aye Davis, yes, Mr, yes, Uranus, yes, hi.

B

Jones hi Ricardo hi.

D

C

Okay, uh finally, uh 10.4 is a site development permit and historic preservation permit before East Santa, Clara Street and South 4th Street just across the street. Yes,.

DR

Thank you mayor our final project for you this evening, as you noted uh it's just across the street on the south west corner of uh East, Santa, Clara and uh Fourth Street. This is the suzako project.

DR

So the project includes um it's a site. Development permit and a historic preservation permit on three Parcels includes the demolition of the side and rear wall um of the an interior of a city, Landmark um demolition of two buildings and the construction of approximately 75 000 square feet of office, retaining the historic facade on the corner of East Santa Clara on 4th street. It also includes an alternate parking arrangement.

DR

um So, like our two prior projects, uh the project has a downtown General planned designation and a downtown core um downtown primary commercial uh zoning. District um it's been assessed with both against both the general plan uh and the zoning code and the downtown design guidelines and found consistent with each. As noted.

DR

um The project does include a historic component as well sorry, so let me skip ahead. um So the project prepared a draft supplemental environmental impact report.

DR

um It was circulated for 45 days from uh June 27th to August 11th, less than significant impacts with mitigation, Incorporated included uh air quality, biological resources, cultural and tribal cultural resources, hazardous and hazardous materials and construction, related noise and vibration impacts, significant unavoidable impacts identified for cultural resources and land use and planning. Therefore, city council will need to approve.

DR

um Excuse me will need to adopt a statement of vote of early considerations should they approve the project comments on the draft supplemental eir expressed concern regarding the lack of mitigation measures to minimize the identified impact on the designated City Landmark impacts to the San Jose downtown commercial National register historic district non-compliance with the general plan policies adopted for the purpose of historic preservation and cumulative impact on historic resources, as well as Road Safety pre-construction bird save a timing, concurrent construction in downtown projects.

DR

Staff responded to these comments um through the First Amendment to the supplemental eir and they were posted on the city's website on October, 18th and staff. So no need to recirculate the eir.

DR

So with that, we're recommending approval of this project again through resolution um of uh through a resolution certifying the supplemental eir a resolution, a grieving uh subject, to condition the site development permit um and a um consider stats recommendation to adopt a resolution approving the historic preservation permit as well and with that the applicant is available and present Chris.

C

Please drink some water I will.

DR

C

AV

E

Apologies for the delay. Thank you. Council members and mayor licardo really appreciate it and thank you staff for all the many months of work and effort that obviously went into this. Most of you are probably very familiar with the site. It's directly across Fourth Street uh Pizza building lists. um We've been working since 2017.. Try to Cobble together.

N

I, don't know if it's just me but yeah I.

E

Apologize yeah yeah, that's better, so thank.

DQ

You when people will be able to hear you on the.

E

uh We've been working since 2017 to try to Cobble together some parcels to make a viable project in that location. We are currently proposing a Class A Creative office space with a large food and beverage uh offering on the ground floor and a rooftop bar at 130 East, Santa Clara. The office is geared based on the size and the plates towards smaller users that are traditionally called Downtown, San Jose home um next slide.

E

Please, oh sorry, uh there's a couple of key design ideas: Steve Stanton from rmw, we'll speak to those in more detail, but I would like to point out that we are intentionally somewhat modest in scale to try to be respectful of the Block in the historic district and that it will be a mass Timber structure to reduce the carbon footprint of the project. We did look nationally and internationally, at hopefully best class best of class examples. I'm going to show you a couple that we used to Riff on for the design.

E

This happens to be the Restoration Hardware hotel in the Meatpacking District in New, York and there's another one here in Poland that we liked it integrated historic buildings of this era with and reinvigorated them with new structures that were integrated into them. So we, these are some of the ideas.

E

uh This is our building, uh which you will recognize the facade. At the base level, we tried to incorporate and we will incorporate and refurbish the facades at not in significant cost, but we believe it is worth it through the process we've tried to incorporate feedback from Key preservation, stakeholders, including adjusting setbacks and adding vertical delineation for their requests, and we've had quite a few conversations. We are actively looking to re-tenant the ground floor.

E

While we go through the pre-con period as we'd like to activate it as best we can, and we believe that creating a vibrant corner will in fact help preserve the other historic buildings on this block by making the other properties more viable, I'd like to turn it over to Steve Stanton from rmw. Please.

ED

Thanks Ted Mr mayor council members, um Steve Sten with rmw, so we see this project as an opportunity to revitalize and re-energize this neighborhood and this area of the downtown core.

ED

This proposed six-story mixed-use project includes office space on the upper floors and restaurant retail space planned for the ground floor with the ground floor space supporting the activation pedestrian experience at street level along Santa Clara they're also activated rooftop Terrace lounges on the top of the building that Overlook Santa Clara and 4th Street.

ED

With the importance of the existing two-story Historic Landmark brick. Building on this corner site, the project proposes to maintain the historic facades along 4th, Street and Santa Clara Street, including the repair and Rehabilitation of these facades, which will be done in a manner consistent with Secretary of interior standards for rehabilitation.

ED

So these standards also require that the new construction be compatible but differentiated from the historic elements being retained, and so we've been sensitive to this requirement.

ED

The materiality of the new proposed building design includes a clean, elegant, glass, skin facade, which is set back from the existing two-story facade below and even further set back at. The third level to honor the roof line and Street presence of the existing building facades.

ED

The extent of Glass on the North and East elevations allows for great daylight and views for the space while minimizing heat gain due to orientation and the structure itself is unique in that it's proposed to be Mass Timber and we'll touch more on that in just a moment.

ED

So the site sits at the East End of the historic district and is situated within an area that includes several existing and proposed high-rise buildings.

ED

And here's a shot of the existing street with our site on the far left and the clariana on the far right.

ED

And here is a proposed new project. It maintains low-rise scale of the block and holds a corner at the end of the historic district.

ED

So Mass Timber is a very sustainable material and we felt it was a perfect fit for this building. So using mass Timber is a part of reflection and Nod to the existing structure of the building that will be removed, but it also is important. The carbon story where we look to reduce carbon emissions in our buildings and, in addition, it's a beautiful material that we intend to expose as an architectural feature in the finished building design.

ED

There's another shot looking down. Fourth, there's a shot. Looking uh on Santa Clara towards City Hall,.

ED

And then, just to close out, we fully understand that the removal of the two back walls, interior and roof creates an impact to the landmark building. Our vision is to rehabilitate the two main front 100 year old facades, which are so important to this streetscape neighborhood and historic district and thoughtfully integrate them into a new building. That'll, hopefully help Define shape and Revitalize this site and neighborhood for many years to come. Thank you.

C

Thank you all right. uh Let's go to the public first.

AV

uh Yes, also from the Horseshoe, the the Planning Commission and the presentation that was given to both the Planning Commission and the historical landmarks commission was filled with racist uh classes, uh uh slides what they used. Is they used the premise that we are the solution to crime in that area? Okay, this is what they did, okay and they got hard checked for it and both commissions, especially the historical landmarks. Commission.

AV

You don't you don't come to this area and saying that gentrification is the solution to this crime-ridden area and and the historical landmarks commission also checked you on the compromise on the Integrity of the landmark now I, don't think this Council really wants to be um these facade. These buildings have stayed intact in the their and their integrity for over a hundred years, and then you're just going to come in and and allow a developer to throw you some cash and you're gonna you're gonna go ahead and destroy that I mean come on man.

D

AD

Yet again, there's another project with no affordable housing.

AD

Are we just going to put people in sheds and not let anybody move into housing because we're sure not building affordable housing to put people in after they live in their tiny home sheds and about the previous building? What is this? What the vegetation on facades? It's, the code violation of anybody can see my balcony plants if they let these developers put Vines and trees and stuff all over their buildings. I better, not get any more code violations for balcony plants, good night.

D

Mike sodergan.

DZ

D

DZ

Members this had nice design, but it shouldn't be at this location. No, the city is eager for more to move forward on all developments, but um even beautiful designs should not go on top of City landmarks located wholly within National registers, historic districts um uh staff concludes. The significant damage to our Stark fabric is unavoidable, based on the Project's program goals and an applicant produce 2021 economic hardship report that asserts this financially unreasonable to adaptively, reuse, buildings that have provided housing and street level retail for many people, modest means for well.

DZ

Over a hundred years, nine families with lsac protection lost their affordable housing when this property was purchased. Mom and pop businesses that survived covet are all gone and with no plan for interim occupancy, the graves House burn tonight. That's my fear. Thank you. Foreign.

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DY

uh Oh no mayor, Ricardo, Victor Gomez here once again with the San Jose downtown Association I'll, keep you short Downtown Association really supports this project and appreciates the applicants continued uh investment in downtown uh San Jose and their commitment to improving the streetscape in and around the downtown core, so like in previous projects. We appreciate the investment in downtown and hope the council fully supports this project. Thank you.

B

Back to council.

C

All right, uh councilmember, Pros.

DQ

Yeah, thank you um and just a clarification to start. This is a commercial and office building, so not a not a, not a housing building here um and but um I I do want to say thank you to uh Bayview and and Ted and your team.

DQ

um Certainly, we know that uh you are, are willing to take the plunge and and really make an investment uh we've seen that with mirror towers, and so I hope for my colleagues feel a sense of assurity that that this project will be able to break ground as well.

DQ

uh My colleagues May wonder why I wrote a a simple memo on this one and and asking essentially the same thing that I did on the last two um and I will say it was because this brought a a more significant importance when it came to the historical building, because it is a historical building that is going to to need to be demolished and essentially could have been completely demoed and and lost in the process.

DQ

And as Ted knows, uh it was an interest of mine, certainly an interest of of Advocates from from our preservation, Action Council um here in San Jose, but but also an interest of mine to try and preserve this building and um I had never seen anything like this before in the slides that they showed. They showed you some examples uh across the the globe where this has been done before.

DQ

But we really haven't seen this here in um in San Jose in in downtown and uh I was very pleased when I saw what they were able to do with this building when they capped the height of the building as well to really fit in with the the the structures in the area.

DQ

Keeping the the in the the facade that we have on Santa Clara and on fourth one that all of you are very familiar with and- and you can see, um even as you see in the image here- sort of that that state market and for those that that know the sign that was partially covered and it's been preserved. That's the original piece! That's that's!

DQ

Somehow, still um you know sitting there, um it is a beautiful building as it stands today and I think it's going to be even that much more um when it is uh when it is redone. As we look at it here. I know: it's not perfect when it comes to our pack, SJ advocates in really wanting to to fully preserve a building like this, but I do think this is, is likely.

DQ

um You know one of the best examples that we can have and to to lead off on on how we can preserve a building like this or the facade of it in a building and also allow for for some growth, uh some modest growth within the building, so I'm excited about the opportunities. I think this is going to be extremely attractive to uh you, know: retail and office tenants when this comes up. This is this is an exciting uh development.

DQ

This is a great site, as we've seen with the other projects that are coming in, uh or the other project uh icon Echo across the street and another nod to to Really City Hall on what it's done to to move the development here along uh the Eastern edge of downtown, and so thank you uh for for that and again look forward to this breaking ground with that I'll I'll move approval of Staff recommendation.

T

C

Thank you motion from councilmember Pro. Second councilmember Davis, um hey Ted, I, just had a couple questions and I do want to say thank you to you and Leanne Lee and the entire team for uh the spectacular addition to our Skyline across the street. Here on this project. It looks very challenging anytime, you're dealing with preservation and adaptive, reuse of various kinds and I know you're not using the whole building, but certainly the facade, which is super important.

C

It looks as though from the design and it's been a while since I'd look at this project, looks like you've got a holdout uh parcel here. I won't delve in public into the details, because I'm sure uh those are always challenging conversations I'm sure. Is there any way, and maybe there's a question more for the attorneys here, uh but I'd hate to think that in perpetuity uh we could be stuck with something less than a complete project.

C

Is there any way we can approve anything that would give you the ability at some subsequent date, if circumstances should change, to be able to acquire that parcel and incorporate it in the design without having come back through the whole process? Is that something anybody has contemplated yet.

E

It's not something. We've explored.

C

Okay, so you're just pretty settled on taking what you got.

E

That was the thinking. Yes, okay,.

C

um All right, uh I won't tell any further, then uh can can I ask just about the Fourth Street um facade I couldn't tell from. Maybe we can go back to the slides, um the one that showed.

E

Would you like the image that looks down Fourth.

C

Street yeah, exactly yep we could I was just trying to understand. I couldn't tell from the slide what exactly I was looking at and I was hoping. You could describe it because it doesn't look like exactly the same wall.

C

That's it um is that glass I'm trying to understand where the gentleman on the bicycle is.

DB

C

E

The tree line beneath the tree line yeah.

C

E

Down Fourth Street, okay I see the bicycle you're referring to yeah.

C

Is that glass there's a.

E

Glass section there that is intended to help activate the food and beverage the restaurant that.

C

I see in there, okay, that's great, so it'll be active from the street. Okay.

E

C

The original design.

E

Had windows that had been blocked over time that I believe that let's say that wall has been Dynamic over the last hundred years.

C

Oh I didn't know that, so that's actually breaked in that that okay, that's very interesting. Okay, um thank you! It's you know, I've seen efforts like this in Europe and I know. This is really hard and I'm glad you're taking it all on. um The last question I had was just about the height here. Is this a 60-foot limit that you're trying to abide by, or is this so.

E

It stays as low rise yeah.

K

E

Fire code reasons that relate to cost and the plate size and the ability to get elevators and other systems into it. So.

C

E

Stay under that threshold, so.

C

This isn't anything we're doing to you. This is just uh the optimal way to build, based on what you know in the codes.

E

Based on a series of constraints, we optimized it as best we could to make it as viable.

C

E

C

Great well look forward to seeing it uh across the street from City Hall I hope you can bring back the salad bar.

E

That'd, be nice I'm aware that the salad bar is very important. We're.

CZ

E

To try to put one off across Santa Clara for your street prior to this being completed.

C

It's too late for me, but maybe for others. Thank you. Welcome. Okay. uh We have a motion. Is there any other comment?

C

Okay, let's vote.

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C

Okay, uh we're on the public open forum thanks, everybody.

A

AV

Oh Paul from the Horseshoe Golden State Portables was hired by Silicon Valley leadership group to place 32 portable uh containers of feces and urine right next to a San Jose, historical landmark, which is hammer and Lewis. Okay, so I hope, Vince vulture is on this call and that he can hear me because I want to talk to him and I want to know who made that decision to put those porta potties right next to a historical landmark.

AV

Cameron Lewis has been holding that flag in San Jose since 1976 I talked to Irving today he did not give permission for this city and Silicon Valley leadership group to put those there. Okay I talked to the owner of Golden State Portables and he profusely apologized to me. I demand, Vince, Rocha and Victor Gomez and Omar Torres give an apology to the San Jose Community and the Chicano.

D

Mike or yeah Mike suttergren.

DZ

Yeah Mike's preservation, Action Council uh I'm, really saddened to report to the council that the Mitzi Place uh project, the old Graves house, one of the last remaining Orchard Mansions uh burned tonight, and um it's it really brings to the foreground.

DZ

The necessity of San Jose updating its ordinance on the responsibilities of the owner for the securing and protecting of properties when they are unoccupied and often I, think we get in the way of allowing developers to move quickly by making them have eviction, requirements that get the houses or the buildings empty and um therefore, without the ability to push back on intrusion. It's just really a sad sad day for San Jose. Thank you. Mike.

C

I'm, sorry, if you're still with us, could you just tell us again which which structure? That is where it is.

D

um Let's get him um I need to get him back. Oh.

C

D

On there, I just need to click, allow to talk.

DZ

It's it's 41 46 Mitzi Drive, which is in West San, Jose, uh chappie Jones knows this project.

C

All right, thank you. Thank you, Mike, sorry to hear that.

D

CG

Hey Alex Shore again with catalyze SV, you've heard of cleanup legislation. This is cleanup public comment, I made uh I was talking about one project tonight and I meant another and I apologize to the applicants, if they're still on, um but I meant to be talking about the the previous project that had already been improved. So if it's a late night for you all, it's also a little bit of a late night for some of us following along and working on working hard.

CG

So my apologies, if that was confusing to the council and to the applicants thanks.

C

Okay, let's get out of here means Dern.