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From YouTube: JUL 28, 2020 | City Council, Afternoon Session
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City of San José, California
City Council meeting of July 28, 2020
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A
A
B
I'll
ask
tony:
if
she
could
please
call
roll.
C
C
B
C
B
President,
just
as
we
kick
back
into
council
discussion,
I
just
want
to
again
extend
a
thank
you
to
mark
vanni
and
to
ed
and
the
city
attorney
team.
It's
obvious.
A
lot
of
works
had
to
happen
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
and
I
know
there
will
be
some
sense
that
some
of
that
work
was
for
naught.
B
I
can
assure
you
mark
all
these
items
are
coming
back
up
campaign,
finance
and
otherwise,
so
I
suspect
that
the
drafting
you
did
will
be
resuscitated
eventually,
once
this
gets
through
commission
and
so
forth.
So
thank
you
for
putting
in
the
work
now
and
doing
so
in
a
timely
way.
In
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
make
the
decisions
we
need
to
make
to
get
decide
what
moves
forward
to
the
ballot
council,
member
foley.
E
Whoops,
thank
you
now
I'll
stay
on
camera
for
my
comments
and
then
shut
off.
I
think
I'm
fading
a
little
bit.
I
really
appreciate
that
this
issue
is
coming
back
and
the
way
that
it
is
coming
back
to
us
as
well
that
the
process
is
being
hopefully
when
it
if
it
gets
approved
today
and
I'm
hopeful
that
it
will
that
it
goes
forward
to
a
blue
urban
panel
or
a
commission
or
whatever
we're
calling
it
for
investigation
into
one
of
the.
E
What
is
the
best
form
of
government
that
this
should
this
city
should
be
implementing
if
a
change
is
necessary
at
all?
I
am
very
mindful
of
the
vote
that
I
made
three
or
four
weeks
ago,
and
I
made
it
in
good
conscience
and
with
the
understanding
of
that,
taking
this
to
the
vote
of
the
public
was
the
way
to
go,
but
in
the
last
few
weeks,
having
thought
about
it
personally,
I've
actually
been
out
of
touch
with
email
with
my
recovery.
E
It's
it's
been
wrestling
with
me
that
this
process
does
seem
tremendously
rushed
and
I'm
so
glad
for
the
memos
that
we
have
both
from
the
council
members
and
from
the
mayor
vice
mayor,
all
of
the
memos
coming
together,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
some
consensus
on
this
and
it
seems
that
we're
heading
in
that
direction.
That
is
extremely
important.
Having
we
have
been
criticized
for
six
five
votes
continuously
and
I
don't
think
any
of
us
find
any
joy
in
that
sort
of
dissension
in
our
city
council.
E
We
all
have
at
heart
doing
the
best
that
we
possibly
can
for
the
city
of
san
jose.
However,
we
interpret
that
through
our
lands
and
through
the
areas
and
communities
that
we
represent,
but
ultimately
we
represent
every
member
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
So
our
job
is
to
make
the
decisions
that
we
can.
That
will
benefit
the
majority
of
our
population
of
our
residents
within
the
city
of
san
jose.
E
So
I'm
really
happy
and
pleased
to
see
the
emotion
coming
through
the
memos
and
all
of
the
thoughtfulness
that
was
created
around
them
and
I'm
I'm
there.
There
are
two
items
that
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
maybe
pull
them
off
and
bifurcate
them.
So
I'll
speak
to
council
member
arenas
to
see
if
she
agrees
to
to
bifurcate
them
and
the
reason
and
the
two
items
are
items
number
two
and
five
from
your
memo
and
the
reason
is
it's
actually
personal
preference.
E
For
me,
I'm
fading
physically
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
vote
on
the
majority
of
what
else
is
being
discussed.
And
I
I
think
those
two
will
have
continued
discussion
in
the
next
few
hours
and
I
don't
know
how
many
hours
we'll
we
will
be
discussing
that
to
those
two.
But
would
you
would
the
council
member
consider
separating
those
two
items,
two
and
five
for
a
future
vote
and
a
future
vote
today
and
allow
us
to
vote
on
the
rest
of
the
memos
that
have
come
forward.
G
B
I
I
think
the
way
it
would
work
is
we
would
consider
the
bulk
of
your
motion.
First.
Presumably
take
any
comments
on
that
from
the
council
vote
on
that
and
then
go
in.
Whichever
order
to
number
two
and
number
five.
E
E
I
will
do
what
I
can,
but,
as
the
day
goes
on,
I've
found
that
in
my
recovery,
as
the
day
goes
on,
I
find
to
get
really
start
to
get
really
tired,
and
I
can
feel
that
coming
back
from
lunch
that
I'm
starting
to
get
really
tired
and
council
member
arenas,
I'd
really
like
to
support
what
you've
sent
foot
forward
already.
F
I
I
appreciate
that
council
member
foley.
I
certainly
understand
that
I've
I've
actually
had
myself
some
medical
issues
that
have
gone
into
the
er
for
this
month,
and
so
I
totally
get
that
I
I
don't
want
to
leave
you
out
of
the
rest
of
the
conversation,
I'm
not
sure
if
whose
remains
to
in
terms
of
talking,
I
only
see
one
more
person,
that's
going
to
speak
and
that's
maya.
F
So
I
wonder
if,
if
that's?
If
that,
if
that
comment
is
pretty
quick,
we
might
be
able
to
vote
on
all
of
this
and
get
your
back
out
of
bed.
E
F
Absolutely
absolutely
councilman
portfolio
and
it
sounds
like
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
mayor,
but
it
sounds
like
we
we
might
be
closer
than
than
than
not.
I
think
that
I
heard
you
say
that
you
were,
I
think,
with
the
exception
of
number
five,
you
had
some
feedback
there,
but
I
think
that
I
I
may
be
able
to
earn
your
support
on
this.
B
There
are
several
other
issues
I'd
like
to
discuss.
I
haven't
really
spoken
to
the
whole
member.
Okay.
F
Great,
I
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
I
think
all
of
your
items
on
your
memo
mayor
have
been
incorporated
into
this,
and
I
really
like
the
message
about
unity,
and
so
I
hope
that
it
continues
forward.
Thank
you.
F
F
Yeah
and
the
and
then
I
think
b
through
through
f,
is
it's
channeled
through
the
city
charter,
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
the
san
jose
fpvc
commission
for
consideration,
and
so
I
think
all
of
those
items
have
been
actually
there's
a
path
forward
for
all
of
your
items.
On
on
your
memo,.
E
Okay,
so
so
I
guess
that's
a
no
to
the
bifurcation,
although
now
I
see
three
other
two
other
council
members
coming
forward,
so
I
am
it's
not
appropriate
for
me
to
make
a
motion
to
that
effect.
Right
now.
Is
it
or.
E
B
E
B
B
E
Then
that's
all
I
have
to
say,
but
I
hope
we
can
move
forward
thoughtfully.
A
Thank
you
in
the
spirit
of
councilmember
foley's
unity
message.
I
will
try
to
stick
to
the
fully
roll
and
keep
it
short.
I
I
wanted
to
do
a
couple
of
things.
A
So
one
is
you
know
this
council
has
voted
numerous
times
to
reform
the
planning
commission
and
we
did
vote
fairly
recently
to
put
this
on
the
ballot,
and
so
we
need
to
remember
that
commitment
and
I
actually
feel
that
planning
the
planning
commission
should
go
with
redistricting,
because
we
had
also
talked
about
following
the
redistricting
guidelines
for
the
planning
commission
by
using
that
process.
I
know
rick
doyle
isn't
here,
but
he
was
part
of
that
discussion.
A
Combination
and
so
one
I
wanted
to
do
that,
the
other
thing
is,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
discussions
around
the
two-year
term
because
or
on
the
two
or
six-year
term.
I,
as
I
stated
earlier.
I
strongly
feel
that
this
you
know
since
we're
talking
about
democracy.
A
I
think
we
have
heard
from
our
residents
for
the
past
couple
of
months
pretty
strongly
about
their
desire
for
democracy,
and
I
think
we
need
to
honor
that
and
and
honor
an
election,
and,
if
I
remember
correctly
on
july
1st,
maybe
it
was
both
the
30th
and
the
first.
The
mayor
stated
that
it
wasn't
about
him
that
you
know
he
wasn't
about
him.
A
You
know
wanting
an
extra
two
years
that
this
was
about
really
good
government,
and
so
I
wanted
to
ask
the
mayor.
I
wanted
to
ask
you
directly
about
the
two-year
term,
and
so
do
you
have
a
problem
with
running
in
2022
for
a
two-year
term,
if
that
was
something
that
the
council
would
make
an
opportunity
to
create
a
two-year
election.
B
What
I
said
a
month
ago,
when
we
had
this
discussion,
is
that
I
believe
a
two-year
term
would
be
a
mistake
that
if
there's
going
to
be
an
extension
of
the
next
mayor's
term
to
six
years
or
extension
this
year,
this
term
to
six
years,
that
would
make
sense
from
a
government
standpoint.
B
B
B
B
I
believe
I
had
somewhere
near
a
million
and
a
half
or
two
million
dollars
of
independent
expenses.
Coming
against
me
in
my
mayoral
election
in
2014.,
which
meant
I
had
to
go,
raise
money
to
try
to
win,
and
that's
not
what
you
know
mayor
doing
for
the
first
two
years
of
their
their
term.
You
want
to
make
it
focused
on
priorities
of
the
city.
I
think
it's
a
bad
idea
to
have
a
two-year
term
for
any
mayor,
and
I
told
you
I'm
agnostic
about
how
it
all
gets
vetted
out.
A
Sure
I
mean
I
get
that
and
we
certainly
see
two-year
elections
in
congress.
We
see
that
in
the
assembly,
but
but
we
do
need
to
decide
that
today,
whether
it's
a
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term.
So
that
is
a
decision
for
this
council
today.
A
A
I
A
For
the
past
couple
of
months,
and
so
so
I
am
actually
kind
of
giving
my
feedback
to
city
staff
which
they
asked
for
today,
and
so
that
is
my
feedback
to
city
staff,
based
on
my
thoughts
as
well
as
on
the
community
input
that
we've
received
for
two
months
from
hundreds
of
people
who
took
the
time
to
send
us
emails
as
well
as
messages
on
social
media
and
whatnot
and
as
well,
in
addition
to
the
black
kitchen
cabinet,
the
asian
law
alliance
and
other
organizations
that
did
not
want
to
extend
the
curtains
certain
the
current
terms.
B
B
J
Mayor,
I
I
I
merely
wanted
to
ask
what
we're
voting
on
right
now.
I'm
hearing
bifurcate
and
trifurcate
and
yeah.
J
So,
but
what
we're
voting
on
in
a
nutshell
is
that
is
the
mayoral
cycle
moving
to
2020
and
forming
the
blue
ribbon.
I'm
trying.
I
tried
to
write
this
thing
down,
so
I
know
what
I'm
voting
on
because
there's
you
know
there's
about
four
memos
with
each
one
has
five
parts
at
least
so:
we're
mayoral,
2020,
blue,
ribbon
task
force
and
the
charter
amendment
for
the
planning
commission.
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding.
J
And
we're
leaving
the
question
whether
we're
extending
your
term
or
doing
a
six-year
election
to
to
a
later
vote.
Is
that
what's
happening
right
now
or
no.
B
I
believe
what
councilmember
iran's
motion
has
not
yet
decided
whether
there
would
be
a
two-year
term
starting
in
2022
or
a
six-year
term
for
the
next
mayor
in
2022.
B
That,
I
believe,
is
undecided.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
on
that
council
morenis.
Okay,
that's
the
current
and
the
motion
is
that
there
would
be
a
mayoral
election
in
2022
the
presumption.
Then
there
would
be
a
presidential
year
alignment
thereafter,
either
in
2024
or
in
2028,
depending
on
what
the
council
decides.
With
regard
to
the
duration
of
that
term,.
J
J
I
I'm
okay
with
the
way
it's
it's
currently,
I'm
I'm
actually
really.
Okay,
with
the
way,
it's
currently
being
decided,
I'd
rather
vote,
and
I
would
rather
vote
on
this
extension
of
the
mayor
separately
than
than
than
moving
the
mayoral
election,
because
I've
had
issues
with
moving
the
mayoral
election
cycle
since
day,
one.
The
reason
why
I
thought
I'd
support
the
grand
bargain.
I
thought
the
unions
were
on
board
and-
and
I
was
planning
on
supporting
you
know-
obviously
a
couple
weeks
ago.
What
I
thought
was
a
was
a
compromise.
J
That
being
said,
I'm
not
really
in
favor
of
changing
a
mayoral
cycle
that
this
has
nev
has
never
been
an
easier
time
to
vote
in
america
in
santa
clara
county,
everybody
gets
a
mail-in
ballot
and
they
have
almost
a
month
and
they
could
choose
to
mail
it
in
for
free
any.
They
could
go
into
numerous
sites.
It's
never
been
easier
and
there's
never.
You
know
for
me,
it's
it's
about
making
sure
you
know.
If,
if
we're
concerned
about
turnout,
we
just
have
to
do
a
better
job,
motivating
people
to
turn
out.
J
So
so
I'm
not
necessarily
willing
to
support
the
motion
on
the
floor,
but
I
do
care
about
what
happens.
I
I
would
support
the
extension
of
this
mayor.
J
I
I
think,
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
some
continuity,
especially
in
you
know
the
the
rough
times
that
are
coming
so
so
I'm
glad
that
I
I'm
hoping
that
we
we
can
continue
bifurcating
this.
I
can
vote
on
vote
no
on
one
and
potentially
yes
on
the
other.
So,
like
I
said,
I'm
I'm
waiting
for
a
clear
motion
to
clarify
this
motion
so
just
to
understand
completely
what
we're
voting
on
right
now.
B
J
B
Was
a
request
essentially
councilmember
foley?
Okay,
so
I
believe
that's
been
asked
in
the
answer,
but
councilman
reinis.
Let
me
know
if
I'm
incorrect
on
that.
B
Okay,
that's
correct:
okay,
councilmember
davis,.
K
I
I
have
a
question
I
don't
know
mark
if
it's
for
you
or
ed,
I
don't
see
mark
anymore.
Sorry
he's
not
on
my
computer
on
the
screen,
but
oh
there
you
are.
I
see
you
now.
K
If
we
didn't
want
to
make
the
decision
today
about
whether
or
not
to
move
the
mayoral
election,
could
we
could
the
commission
actually
the
the
blue
ribbon
task
force
or
the
re
chartered
charter
change,
commission
or
charter
revision
commission?
Could
they
make
that
determination
and
give
us
do
we
have
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
to
get
a
charter
revision
commission
started.
I
No,
you,
you
don't
need
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
to
get
a
treasure
revision.
Commission
started
if,
if
the
desires
to
move
the
mayoral
elections,
that
will
require
a
charter
amendment
and
so
there's
only
a
few
opportunities
to
do
a
charter
amendment.
You
have
to
do
it
either
at
a
statewide
general
election
in
november
or
a
primary
election
in
march,
and
that's
if
it
doesn't
affect
any
labor
and
employment
issues.
Those
have
to
go
in
in
november
elections.
K
G
I
think
what
mark
is
saying:
the
next
cycle
would
be
marched
or
whatever
the
primary
would
be
in
2022
right
and
if
nothing
happened
or
you
couldn't
come
to
the
consensus
or
it
would
be
difficult
for
people
to
know
what
it
is
they
would
be
running
for
unless
you
had
a
definitive
answer
before
the
primary
in
2022.
G
So
while
it
may
be
possible,
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
let
people
know
what
was
happening,
so
it
would
be
better,
it
doesn't
have
to
be,
but
it
would
be
better
to
make
a
decision
today.
K
Yeah,
but
if
so
that
means,
if
we
decide
today
to
move
the
mayoral
election
to
align
with
the
presidential
election,
then
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
I
completely
understand.
Then
we
also
must
make
the
determination
about
whether
to
extend
the
current
mayor's
term
that
goes
to
the
ballot.
People
can
decide
right
as
part
of
the
the
measure.
G
G
Right,
the
combination
of
extending
this
current
mayor
or
this
current
office,
folder,
adding
it
to
the
next
profits
holder
or,
as
I'm
hearing
which
I
think
is
possible,
but
maybe
difficult
to
do,
is
to
wait
until
2022
for
a
two-year
term.
You
could
actually
put
a
two-year
term
now
as
well,
but
again
there
are
issues
with
a
two-year
term,
but
those
are
all
the
options.
Yes,.
K
K
Right
so
it
may
or
may
not
be
clear
by
the
time.
Well,
you
could
have
it
during
the
you
could
have
that
be
during
the
primary,
so
everyone
who
was
running
would
know
it
would
be
up
in
the
air
at
that
time.
In
2022
and,
however,
it
was
decided
would
be
for
the
runoff,
it
would
have
been
decided
in
march
for
the
november
runoff.
K
Yep,
I
completely
agree,
and
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
do
it
now.
I
just
wanted
to
explore
the
option
because
we
hadn't
talked
about
that,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
need
for
public
comment
and
the
need
for
public
for
public
input,
which
I
completely
agree
with
for
the
charter
revision,
commission
or
whatever
we're
calling
it.
I
like
that
name
better
than
blue
ribbon
task
force,
just
because
it's
very
specific
about
what
their
job
is.
K
There
have
been
blue
ribbon
task,
force,
task
forces
on
education
and
a
number
of
other
things
in
many
many
presidential
administrations,
and
we
don't
really
know
what
those
do.
A
charter
revision
commission,
we
know
what
it
does.
They
are
there
to
help
us
revise
the
charter.
So
I
am
very
glad
I
hope
we
all
got
some
time
in
the
last
three
weeks
to
to
take
a
break
to
spend
time
with
our
families
and
to
reflect
on
the
last
three
weeks
on
on
what
happened
in
on
june
30th
and
july
1st.
K
I
know
I
did,
and
I
am
very
relieved
that
we
are
at
a
point
now,
where
we
are
willing
to
listen
to
each
other,
better
willing
to
have
a
more
civil
discourse
frankly
than
we
had
on
june
30th
and
july
1st,
and
I
know
we
are
all
passionate-
we
would
not
be
in
these
positions
if
we
weren't-
and
I
do
think
being
on
this
screen
and
being
in
my
garage
as
opposed
to
sitting
next
to
council,
member
arenas
and
and
council
member
carrasco
is
very
difficult.
K
Just
to
be
able
to,
you
know,
have
have
lunch
or
dinner
with
you
guys
and
to
ask
about
your
families
and
and
to
have
discussions
about
things
that
are
completely
unrelated
to
this.
I
think
it's
it's
been.
K
It's
made
our
our
conversations
here
on
screen,
more
difficult
and
and
frankly,
more
fraught,
and
I
don't
enjoy
that,
and
I
very
much
blame
the
pandemic
for
for
that,
because,
even
though
we
don't
always
agree,
we
have
especially
you
know.
You
know,
council,
member
arenas,
you
and
I
have
said
many
times
that,
even
though
we
don't
agree
we're
both
moms,
we
both
have
a
son
and
a
daughter.
K
We've
got
way
more
in
common
than
we
than
we
disagree
on,
and
so
I'm
I'm
heartened
today
by
our
more
rested
and
cooler
heads
and
our
conversation.
Thus
far.
K
So
as
I
was
listening
to
my
colleagues
and
as
I
was
reading,
my
colleagues
memos-
and
I
think
it's
it's
very
clear
in
the
motion-
how
many
similarities
there
are
amongst
all
of
the
memos.
So
the
only
outstanding
issues
are
are
what
we
do
with
the
term
and
how
many
ballot
measures
we
have.
I
really
think
that's.
Those
are
the
only
two
points
of
contention.
K
What
I
what
I've
been
thinking
about
is
I
really
think
that
when
I,
when
I
go
forward
into
what
are
we
talking
about
for
the
charter
revision
and
what
we
just
talked
about
with
with
the
city
attorneys,
I
would
be
much
more
comfortable
as
as
a
voter,
just
a
regular
person
voting
on
sort
of
one
one
thing
at
a
time
which
I
know
is
not
possible
in
terms
of
you
know
the
mayoral
election
and
the
redistricting
commission,
or
whatever
or
what's
our
other
item,
the
ipa
reforms,
those
kinds
of
things
we
can't
necessarily
segregate
all
of
those
but
the
next
mayor's
race.
K
So
assuming
we
go
forward
today
and
we
we
say,
we're
we're
going
to
do
a
redistricting
commission
and
the
timeline
that
we're
on
is
to
bring
the
redistricting
or
the
I'm
sorry.
The
charter
revision
commission
to
have
have
something
to
come
back
to
the
voters
in
2022,
then
we're
meshing
together,
the
2022
mayoral
election,
whether
it's
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term,
or
whatever
we're
meshing
that,
together
with
the
new
changes,
so
we
won't
be
able
to
have
a
discussion.
K
A
good
discussion
about
who's
running
for
mayor
separated
from
the
fact
from
the
question
of
what
does
the
mayor's
office
look
like
potentially
right.
If
the.
If
the
charter
revision
commission
comes
back
and
says
we
should
make
these
changes,
so
I'm
very
I'm
concerned
about
that
because,
as
we
said,
we
don't
want.
K
There's
there's
concern
about.
Oh,
whether
the
the
personality
of
the
mayor
is
is
tied
up
in
what
powers
the
mayor
gets,
but
if
we,
if
we
separate
this
out
and
by
doing
that,
all
we're
doing
is
saying
sam
gets
two
more
years
so
that
we
can
have
this
discussion
about
this
other
thing
that
will
go
in
place
that
will
become
you
know
a
new
office
of
mayor
after
sam's
done
so
then
we
take
out
the
personality
of
sam
or
whoever's
running
for
mayor
in
2022.
K
K
Let's
give
ourselves
and
our
city
a
chance
to
actually
discuss
it
without
the
conversation
of
and
who's
running
for,
mayor
too,
because
I
think
those
things
get
they're
gonna
get
tangled
up.
So
that's
my
that's
my
preference
and
then
in
terms
of
the
ballot
measures
themselves.
I
know
we've
talked
about.
We've
talked
about
the
change,
changing
the
planning
commission
and
I
also
like
to
to
clarify
that
question
with
the
city
attorney's
office
did.
Did
we
we
gave
specific
direction.
Remind
me.
G
There
was
a
discussion
a
couple
of
council
meetings
ago.
Rick
was
here.
I
was
also
listening
where
council
member
esparza
was
discussing
the
possibility
of
expanding
the
planning
commission
members
in
number.
G
I
there
was
some
discussion
as
to
whether
or
not
it
was
appropriate
whether
there
should
be
a
re-adjustment
of
the
seven
areas
represented
by
the
current
members,
my
recollection
of
it,
which
is
why
we
we
included
it
in
here
in
that
manner,
was
that
council
member
esparza
indicated
that
if
there
was
going
to
be
another
ballot
measure
that
her
proposal
be
included
in
the
in
the
come
back
to
council
as
a
possible
ballot
measure,
and
since
there
was
other
ballot
measures,
we
included
it
here
for
the
council's
further
discussion
to
make
certain
that
the
council
was
still
interested
in
placing
the
change
to
the
commission
from
7
to
11..
K
Okay,
thank
you
I'm
I.
B
G
It
was,
it
was
included
in
a
motion
that
council
member
esparza
made
that
day
for
us
to
come
back
to
the
council
as
part
of
a
motion
that
the
council
approved.
B
G
A
Previously
yeah
correct,
so
when
the
planning
commission
item
the
motion
was
if
there
was
another
city-initiated
item
to
then
put
this
on
the
ballot.
K
Thank
you
so,
as
as
we
are
reconsidering
what
we
talked
about
on
june
30th
july
1st,
I
think
that
bears
reconsideration
now
I
agree.
The
cardroom
measure
is
its
own
measure.
I
think
the
ipa
measure
is
its
own
measure
in
terms
of
the
timelines.
K
I've
already
stated
my
preferences
for
the
mayoral
election,
I'm
happy
to
move
it
to
the
to
the
presidential
election
cycle,
although,
frankly,
I
don't
think
we
I
I
agree
with
council
member
chemist.
I
don't
think
we
know
yet
what
the
turnout
will
be
citywide
in
a
presidential
election
year
for
a
mayoral
election
and
and
in
terms
of
an
off
year
in
2022,
when
we
have
all
mail-in
ballots
as
well,
so
I'm
sort
of
agnostic
on
on
that
point.
K
But
if
we
move
the
mayoral
election,
I
think
it's
important
to
extend
the
term
of
the
current
mayor
again,
because
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
this
other
charter
revision
stuff.
Basically,
I
think
of
it
as
in
lieu
of
a
mayoral
election.
We
will
talk
about
the
charter
revision
stuff
in
2022
and
then
in
terms
of
the
planning
commission,
I
mean
the
way
that
I
look
at
the
the
planning
commission.
K
I
kind
of
think
you
know
if
we're
trying
to
make
it
less
political
and
more
representative
having
seven
seven
districts
that
are
sort
of
asynchronous
from
our
council
districts
is
the
way
to
do
that,
and
we
don't
have
to
change
the
charter
to
do
that.
We
could
just
set
give
the
redistricting
commission
additional
authority
right
and
that
to
me
first
of
all,
right
now,
the
planning
commission
is
not
we.
We
have
some
guidelines
that
we
just
put
in
place
in
the
last
year
or
so
about.
K
Well,
I
think
we
just
put
them
in
place
for
how
many
planning
commissioners
can
be
from
one
district,
but
we
hadn't
before
that
really
had
any
guidelines
about
having
planning
commissioners
be
from
across
the
city,
and
I
think
it
is
very
good
for
planning
commissioners
to
the
the
sitting
planning
commissioners
to
have
different
perspectives,
geographically
diverse
included
with
other
diversity,
and
you
know
being
diversity,
factors
being
included
as
well.
K
I
was
trying
to
think
of
the
term,
but
anyway,
I
think
you
know
we
should
take
gender
and
race
and
geography
into
account
when
we're
talking
about
who's
going
on
the
planning.
Commission
that's
hard
to
do
if
each
of
us
is
making
our
own
making
our
own
appointment
to
that
as
opposed
to
having
to
have
the
discussion
as
we
currently
do
on
council.
K
I
think
there's
value
in
that,
and
I
think
we
have
made
a
better
planning
commission
through
having
those
discussions,
so
I
would
prefer
actually
to
leave
the
planning
commission
at
the
size.
K
Commissioner,
that
way
we
really
make
sure
nobody
appoints
any.
You
know
no
one
council,
member
appoints
somebody.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
in
terms
of
kind
of
how
we
should
move
forward
and
and
again
I'm
trying
to
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
the
the
timing
of
these
things.
The
spacing
of
these
things
and
also
knowing
as
we've
as
we've
discussed.
You
know
ballot
measures
get
very
very
hard
to
understand
and
they
get
very
complex
when
they
have
too
many
items.
K
So
I'm
thinking
about
that
and
then
being
very
mindful
that
we
we
budgeted
2.7
million
dollars
and
for
for
ballot
measures
we're
already
talking
about
adding
adding
an
extra
one,
and
we
haven't
gotten
the
sales
tax
numbers
in
yet
and
we're
going
to
be
having
probably
within
the
next
four
weeks.
I'm
sure
dave
we'll
be
having
a
discussion
again
about
what
the
economy
is
like
what
our
budget
is
likely
to
really
look
like
and
to
be
making
some
very
hard
decisions.
So
I
don't
want
to
throw
out.
K
K
So
that's
what
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
putting
the
mayoral
election
together
and
then
the
option
two
for
the
redistricting
commission
and
basically
kind
of
the
subset
is,
and
we
will
direct
the
redistrict
redistricting
commission
to
change
the
way
the
planning
commission
is.
Applications
are
are
received
and
allocated.
B
K
That's
correct
yeah,
so
it
was
as
mark
stated
option
two
was
to
yeah
to
authorize
the
change
by
ordinance.
If,
if
the
census
results
are
are
ever
late,
so
it's
not
just
specific
to
this
time
and-
and
I
think
it
it
also
mark
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong-
that
option
two
doesn't
say
a
certain
number
of
days.
I
No,
if
it
was
just
to
defer
to
ordinance,
then
it
would
be
up
to
the
council
to
decide
what
the
deadlines
are
by
ordinance.
B
Right
yeah,
I
support
that
as
well.
I
also
believe
that
districting,
it
would
be
the
important
thing
to
do
with
regard
to
planning
commission
representativeness.
The
important
thing
is
that
we
have
fair
distribution
of
those
representatives,
whether
it's
7,
11
or
21.
I
think
it's
much
less
relevant.
Councilman
carrasco.
L
Thank
you,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
make
my
my
my
comments
brief,
because
I'm
a
little
lost
as
to
what
we're
voting
on
now
and
and
I'm
trying
to
just
get
some
clarification
on
the
on
the
motion
that
council
member
arenas
has
put
forward.
L
If
we
could
just
be
really
clear,
please
for
my
for
my
very
slow
brain,
because
I'm
in
a
house
by
the
way
that
has
absolutely
no
air
conditioning-
and
it's
really
hot
up
here,
close
to
the
hills.
So,
unlike
some
of
you
that
might
enjoy
some
air
conditioning,
I'm
a
little
pissy
right
now.
So
if
you
could
help
me
out,
please.
B
L
L
So
so
I
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
a
couple
of
my
own
thoughts
in
terms
of
two
years,
six
years
extension.
What
have
you?
I
know
that
it's
not
a
perfect
formula
and
it's
not
a
perfect
recipe
for
the
chocolate
chip,
cookie
that
we're
all
salivating
over
the
the
two
years.
As
I
see
it
is
a
one
time
not
a
perfect
and
not
an
ideal
situation,
I
get
that
it's
a
one-time
situation
that
would
align
us
if
the
voters
were
to
pass
it.
L
Obviously,
we've
done
polling,
others
have
done
polling
at
polls
very
well
and-
and
it
gives
us
the
kind
of
turnout
that
we're
hoping
we'll
get
so
that
more
people
are
engaged
women,
people
of
color,
and
it
represents
the
diversity
that
we
have
in
the
city
of
san
jose
that
so
that
we
have
greater
representation
and
so
that
the
individual
who
holds
that
office
is
actually
chosen
by
the
people
that
live
here
in
the
city,
and
we
have
seen
in
other
cities
where
this,
where
it
has
been
aligned
with
the
presidential
election,
that
the
the
turnout
has
increased
exponentially.
L
And
I
know
that
the
two
years
again
is
not
ideal
in
it.
In,
as
it's
been
already
reflected
upon,
we
have
other
offices,
you
know
with
a
greater
challenges
that
do
it
every
two
years.
I
think
it's
a
horrible
setup
as
well,
but
they
do
it
every
two
years
for
whatever
lifetime
they
choose
to
be
in
that
office.
This
will
be
a
one-time
just
in
order
to
align
that
that
office,
I'm
okay
with
the
two
years.
L
I
would
prefer
the
two
years
only
because
mayor
you
know
off
the
dice.
L
We've
had
a
great
relationship,
but
but
we
were
all
voted
in
at
the
same
time
and
we
made
a
commitment
to
the
voters
to
do
our
eight
years
and-
and
that
was
our
that
was
our
commitment
to
them,
and
so
you
know,
and
so
again
we're
on
borrowed
time
in
a
borrowed
seat,
with
a
great
faith
from
the
voters
that
voted
us
in
and
we
have
a
commitment
to
them
and
our
time
is
up
in
just
a
few
years.
L
So
that's
my
my
two
cents,
and
so
I
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
the
comments
that
have
been
made
today.
I
I
appreciate
the
comments
that
that
were
made
just
by
by
council
member
davis.
You
know,
unfortunately,
council
member
davis,
over
the
past
several
weeks,
I
haven't
had
much
of
a
break
because
I've
been
called
to
come
in
and
talk
on
on
this
item
for
many
different
reasons.
L
L
I
happen
to
be
sitting
in
a
district
that
has
many
challenges
and
I
realized
I've
had
an
aha
moment
by
the
way,
an
epiphany,
if
you
will
that
sometimes
they
say
that
eastsiders
have
a
little
bit
of
a
chip
on
their
shoulder,
and
I
think
that
I
really
have
developed
that
chip
on
my
shoulder
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
because
we're
constantly
having
to
fight
and
advocate
for
our
community
and
for
the
under
investments
in
this
district
and
for
people
and
for
children,
especially
who
sometimes
don't
have
a
future,
and
that's
the
reason
why
I
didn't
take
a
day
off
in
july,
because
I
had
to
make
sure
that
individuals
understood
what
this
back
room
deal
meant
and
why
we
had
to
at
least
be
very
honest
with
individuals
as
to
how
this
came
about,
why
it
came
about
and
what
the
implications
and
consequences
were
going
to
mean
for
the
residents
of
the
city
of
san
jose.
L
So
I
didn't
take
a
day
off
and
I'm
a
little
I'm
not
as
rested
as
some
individuals
are
on
the
city
council
this
this
morning
and
so
in
terms
of
bifurcating.
L
You
know,
I
have
to
say
I'm
kind
of
flabbergasted
and
kind
of
taken
aback
that
anybody
here
on
the
council
today
would
request
of
of
the
maker
of
the
motion
to
have
this
motion
bifurcated
when
we
pleaded
with
all
of
you
to
have
the
motion
bifurcated
so
that
we
could
vote
on
an
issue
that
was
so
important
to
us,
such
as
the
fair
elections
initiative,
and
you
all
just
adamantly
denied
us
that
right
to
represent
our
residents
on
something
so
important.
You
just
flat
out
denied
us
the
courtesy.
L
It
was
a
courtesy
and
you
just
flat
out
denied
it
and
now
you're
asking
us
of
that,
and
so
shame
on
you
again
for
asking
us
to
extend
that
professional
courtesy
and
thank
you,
councilmember
arenas
for
even
considering
it.
Obviously
it's
her
choice,
but
I'm
just
I'm
just
amazed
and
surprised
and
just
bewildered
that
you
would
still
ask
with
such
humility
for
that
kind
of
extension.
And
you
know
if
she
grants
it.
L
That's
great
I'll
go
ahead
and
support
it
as
well,
but
I
hope
that
you
will
extend
this
that
kind
of
courtesy
in
the
future,
even
though
we
may
have
a
division,
a
divide
and
a
difference
in
our
political
and
philosophical
differences,
and
that
we
don't
have
these
kind
of
little
power
plays
at
the
diets
in
the
future,
when
some
things
are
that
important
to
each
and
every
one
of
us,
because
I
think
that
we've
always
granted
all
of
you,
the
courtesy
of
bifurcating,
a
vote.
L
When
it's
been
that
important
to
you,
I
don't
think
it's
ever
been
denied,
especially
to
councilmember
johnny
kamis.
You
have
voted
repeatedly
on
things
that
were
really
important
to
you
and
when
you've,
bifurcated
and
you've
asked
us,
we
have
never
denied
it
never,
but
you
denied
it
to
us
just
a
month
ago.
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
Try
to
see
if
we
can
get
to
some
consensus
here,
based
on
what
I've
been
hearing.
H
I
know
that
there
was
some
understanding
on
your
part
mayor
that
your
memorandum
was
completely
excluded,
but
I
think
we've
cleared
that
up
unless
you're
still
thinking
that
there's,
I
guess
parts
of
your
memo
that
are
not
included
is
that
is
that
your
understanding
still.
H
B
Yes,
but
that's
fine.
This
is
part
of
the
process.
H
Okay,
because
my
understanding
was
that
everything
was
included,
so
what
parts
of
it
do,
you
believe,
are
not
included,
not
understanding
directly
what
what
what
we
have
on
the
table.
G
B
So
my
understanding
is
going
back
to
the
memorandum
that
portions
2.
B
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
collective
understanding
is
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
as
well,
and
so
I
wanted
to
try
to
see
if
you
could
help
point
out
what
things
I
think,
maybe
I
thought
were
there
and
you
think
aren't,
and
so
I
I
my
understanding,
then
I
I
would
agree
with
you
on
your
member
of
2a
that
it
seemed
very
much
as
a
as
a
directive
that
says
hey.
H
We
will
return
to
place
this
on
a
ballot
measure
versus
the
language
that
we
now
have
is
that
you
know
we're
that's
going
to
be
what
is
looked
at,
but
that
there's
no
sort
of
expectation
that
we
return
in
november
2022
with
something
on
the
ballot
that
we
we
sort
of.
Leave
that
up
to
the
charter
review
commission,
which
I
believe
is
that
that's
what
you
always
intended.
But
but
my
understanding
is
that's
what
the
language
sort
of
directs.
Now
I
actually
thought
the
discussion
was
around.
H
Okay,
so
you
yeah,
you
expect,
then
the
charter
revision
commission
to
come
back
november,
2022
with
aligning
the
mayor
authority.
You
know
with
residents
local
business
reasonable
as
your
280
described,
so
you
you
expect
them.
B
H
B
Well,
the
idea
is
that
those
ver-
those
words
I
described
are
very
broad
right.
They
don't
prescribe
a
specific
solution.
The
idea
would
be
they
would
interpret
those
words
within
the
context
of
their
experience,
with
whatever
we
learned.
They
learned
through
the
dialogue
and
the
commission.
Public
input
and
return
was
something
that
aligns
mayoral
authority
with
the
reasonable
expectations
of
our
residents
and
our
local
businesses
and
put
that
on
the
ballot.
H
B
No,
they
they
could
decide
that
the
reasonable
expectations
are
exactly
what
exists
today
and
then
not
return
anything.
But
the
important
thing
is
that
we
give
them
a
charge.
That
is,
they
have
a
direction.
It's
not.
Let's
go.
Have
a
bunch
of
commission
meetings,
have
a
free-for-all
about
any
idea
that
comes
to
mind.
That's
not
usually
a
good
use
of
time
for
very
busy
people
that
we
expect
will
be
appointing
to
this
generally.
They
want
to
have
some
clear
sense
of
what
is
it
the
council
is
expecting
out
of
us
now.
B
H
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
think
that
there
was
just
there
was
language
that
was
missing,
that
wasn't
clear
and
it
sounds
like
actually
that's
where
the
discrepancies
were
coming
from
that
you
know
we
had
sort
of
a
back
and
forth
from
a
couple
of
our
colleagues
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
that,
based
on
the
language
that
you'd
crafted,
and
I
I
think
that
we
did
get
to
the
bottom
of
it
that
says:
look
we
may
come
back
with
recommendation.
H
We
may
not,
and
we
have
included
the
fact
that
we
we
explicitly
do
want
them
to
look
at
the
language
that
you
have
crafted,
I'm
not
against
that
either.
I
think
that
we,
you
know
we
should
say
hey
what
things
do
we
want
you
to
actually
look
at,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
If
that's
not,
if
that
doesn't
sound
clear
to
you,
I'm
happy
to
try
to
make
an
amendment
to
make
that
clear.
H
So
let
me
let
me
put
that
on
the
shelf
for
a
second
and
you
can
answer
that
in
a
moment,
2b
c
and
d
from
your
memo.
My
understanding
was
that
that
we
would
ask
our
blanket
on
the
name,
but
the
fppc
commission,
to
take
a
look
at
that.
Our
so
is
that.
B
H
Okay,
I
mean
again
I'm
kind
of
I
guess
using
the
agnostic
word,
I'm
agnostic
on
which
commission
might
look
at
that.
I
I
think
that
our
pre-existing
commission
is
probably
you
know,
has
a
better
nexus
to
speak
of
nexus
is
right.
That
has
better
to
look
at
that,
so
I
was
comfortable
with
that.
H
I
thought
that
was
the
was
the
conversation
that
we
we
had
and
I
I
think,
based
on
looking
at
tony's
verbiage,
I
don't
see
that
you're
correct
in
the
motion,
so
I'm
comfortable
to
you
know
to
add
that
and
then
maybe
clarify
your
language
to
make
it
very
clear
that
you
know
we
could
find
a
consensus,
at
least
on
these
points
and
then
sort
of
move
on
to
the.
I
think
the
one
remaining
item
that
we
don't.
B
H
Lastly,
I
think
you
had
some
contention
with
what
I
had
already
described,
which
was
the
recommendation
number
five,
this
idea
of
what
you
know,
what
initiatives,
what
balloting
issues
do
we
actually
come
back
with
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
comments,
I
I'm
sort
of
you
know
I
I
was
comfortable
with
we
combined
them
with
the
ipa
reforms,
but
I
did
agree
that
I
don't
think
there's
a
direct
nexus
there,
I'm
also
comfortable
with
adding
them
on,
and
this
would
be
adding
them
on
to
the
the
initiative
on
moving
the
mayor's
race,
I'm
comfortable
with
with
that
as
well.
H
H
So
number
one
I'd
be
willing
to
accept
removing
item
or
recommendation
five
from
councilmember
dennis's
memo
and
not
requiring
the
redistricting
or
the
planning
commission
initiatives
to
be
bundled
with
the
ipa
reforms,
rather
allowing
them
to
be
combined
with
moving
the
mayor's
race
and
then
and
then
in
regards
to
item
two
b
c
and
d
from
the
mayor's
memo,
allowing
both
commissions
to
to
review
those
those
those
issues
to
provide
feedback.
H
Knowing
that
they
have
implications
in
in
the
changes
we
may
be
taking
in
the
charter.
Those
those
would
be
the
the
friendly
amendments
which
I'm
the
seconder.
So
I
just
kind
of
want
to
hear
from
our
the
maker
of
the
motion.
F
Thank
you,
council
member,
you
know
this
is
even
though
we
started
out
with
a
different
note
here,
and
I
think
some
of
my
colleagues
have
already
mentioned
that
we
are
listening
to
one
another,
a
lot
a
lot
more
than
we
did
last
time.
It
sounds
like,
and
somebody's
already
referred
to,
that
they
think
they
see
what
that
what
the
vote
is
already.
F
What
I'm
interested
in
understanding
is,
if
we
start
accepting
more
of
this
of
people's
different
and
specifically
the
mayor's
b
through
d.
Does,
that
is
that
going
to
get
us
where
we
need
to?
Is
that
going
to
earn
us
your
support?
Mayors
is
ultimately
what
it.
What
I'm
interested
in.
B
F
So,
if
those,
if
those
issues
are
addressed-
and
it
would
help-
I
I
just
don't-
want
it
to
be
another
false
lead,
if
you
will
in
terms
of
getting
to
unity-
and
I
will.
B
F
All
right
so
I'd
like
to
first
hear
the
remaining
concerns
council
member
perales
before
I
accept
any
additional
amendments.
H
Yeah,
that's
fine
and-
and
I
I
thought
you
know
at
least
looking
at
your
memorandum
mayor.
I
think
I'm
not
understanding
where
your
additional
concerns
may
be
happy
to
hear
what
those
are
as
well,
if
you're
willing
to
to
share
that,
rather
than
sort
of
just
allude
to
the
fact
that
there
are
concerns,
sure.
I
Before
before
you
begin,
I
just
have
a
point
of
order:
yeah
my
conversation
with
council
member
esparza,
where
we
landed
and
council
member
asparagus.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
where
we
landed,
was
that
we
would
incorporate
the
mirrors
2a
into
your
item.
Two
on
your
your
memo.
I
I
know,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
address
that
one.
A
On
whether
we
added
that
the
mayor's
2a
language
to
item
2
of
the
memo
to
councilmember
kadasco
and
myself-
yes
yeah-
we
had
talked
about
that
and
you
had
said
that
that
would
not
have
alleviated
your
concern,
which
is
why
we
changed
the
wording
on
your
2a.
A
If
someone
wants
to
make
an
amendment
to
that,
I
think
that
makes
sense
where
we
can
work
to
alleviate
the
mayor's
concerns.
I
think
he
and
you
have
wanted
some
additional
clarity
and
what
we
had
talked
about
was
create
a
blue
ribbon
task
force
to
research
and
solicit
community
input
on
strong
mayor
and
other
potential
charter
reforms.
H
A
Okay,
so
taking
item
number
two
on
the
memo
of
council
member
carrasco
and
myself,
the
the
item
that
reads:
create
a
blue
ribbon
task
force
to
research
and
solicit
community
input
on
strong
mayor
and
other
potential
charter
reforms
to
improve
and
update
our
governance
structure
and
then
changing
that
to
comma,
including
and
then
item
2a
on
the
mayor's
memo
which
says
so
comment,
including
to
a
aligned,
mayoral
executive
authority
with
residents
and
local
businesses,
reasonable
expectation
for
responsive
and
accountable
democratic
governance
in
a
major
u.s
city.
H
Yeah
and
just
to
be
clear,
the
current
motion
of
accepting
council
member
adenis
memo
includes
accepting
recommendation
three
customer
sponsor
from
your
memo
and
councilmember
carrasco's
memo
which,
if
you
amend
that
language,
that's
what
I
thought
we
were
comfortable
accepting
in
the
motion
we
currently
have,
which
would
include,
as
I
was
indicating
at
the
beginning
of
my
comments,
would
include
the
mayor's
2a.
C
Yes,
the
the
red
language
is
changes
to
vice
mayor
jones's
memo
2a,
that's
correct
and
I
just
inserted
what
councilmember
esparza
said
live
on
the
screen
in
the
bottom
section
and.
A
A
H
Okay,
so
getting
back
to,
I
think,
where
we
had
left
off,
which
was
mayor
yourself.
I
think
you
were
about
to
sort
of
explain
to
us
what
you've
alluded
to,
which
is
that
there
are
concerns,
and
I
guess
these
discussions-
we're
having
right
here
have
not
alleviated.
Those
concerns.
Is
that
correct.
B
Well,
obviously,
it
helps
yes,
thank
you.
In
addition,
as
I've
raced
a
bit
earlier
today,
I
have
concerns
about
spending
additional
funds
on
another
ballot
measure
that
would
adjust
the
number
of
people
on
the
planning
commission.
I
think
council
member
davis
articulated
very
well
used
that
I
share
as
well
that
the
point
of
what
we
should
be
doing
at
the
planning
commission
is
ensuring
that
we
have
fair
representation,
do
that
in
the
city,
and
we
can
do
that
through
ensuring
they're
a
district.
B
There
is
implicit,
explicit,
districting
of
planning
commissions
and
their
selection,
so
we
have
truly
fair
representation.
Citywide
adding
commissioners,
I
suspect,
will
just
increase
the
burden
for
staff
and
also
create
what
I
consider
to
be
a
dangerous
alignment
between
plan
commissioners
and
council
members,
when
the
planning
commission
should
be
independent
of
the
council.
H
Yeah
happy
to
discuss
that
one
as
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
I
I
think
in
fact,
if
there's
any
bifurcation
of
a
vote,
if
that's
a
concern
on
whether
or
not
you
want
to
support
a
planning
commission,
either
that
initiative
being
added
in
to
the
initiative
with
the
redistricting
and
moving
the
mayor's
race
or
just
as
a
standalone,
if
you
just
don't
necessarily
want
to
even
support
that
at
all.
H
I
think
that
we
could
easily
bifurcate
that
and
say:
let's
make
a
decision
up
or
down
as
a
council
on
whether
or
not
we
want
to
have
a
a
planning
commission
initiative
or
include
it
to
any
other
initiative,
rather
than
convoluted,
with
with
the
vote
that
we're
trying
to
take
now
on
moving
the
mayor's
race.
So
I
would
be
comfortable
with
that,
but
but
we
don't
have
to
make
that
amendment
just
yet.
Hopefully
that
would
alleviate
your
concern
there.
H
H
I
think
that
councilmember
davis
brought
up
an
interesting
suggestion,
which
we
we
know
may
cause
some
challenge
on
timing,
as
ed
pointed
out,
but
it
does
maybe
allow
for
more
input
which
would
be
do
we
do
we
kick
this
over
to
the
charter
revision
commission
as
well,
or
to
a
commission
for
input
on
whether
or
not
it
be
a
a
two
year
or
a
six
year
term
for
the
next
mayor,
ed,
as
you
mentioned,
to
councilmember
davis,
you
stated
that
the
way
to
get
that
done
would
be
we'd
have
to
have
a
vote
in
the
primary
in
march
of
2022.
H
G
Would
the
thing
is,
you
would
have
a
gap
there,
because
the
current
the
current
term
would
end
in
2022
under
the
charter.
The
new
one
would
come
in
2024,
so
there
would
be
a
gap,
and
so
something
would
have
to
happen
and
it
wouldn't
be
clear
to
the
public
or
the
candidate,
whether
he
or
she
would
have
a
two-year
six-year
and
they
would
have
to
wait
until
the
election
in
march
of
2022,
I'm
assuming
to
know
what's
happening
in
november
of
2022.
G
H
Great
thank
you,
and
so
I
don't
disagree.
That
certainly
provides
a
a
lot
of
confusion
for
the
candidates
running
and
then
for
those
that
are
voting.
Whether
or
not
they
know
that
this
person
they're
voting
for
is
going
to
have
two
years
or
six
years.
But
what
it
does
provide
clarity
on
is
that
there
will
be
an
election
in
2022
and
it
also
invites
in
the
charter
revision
commission
to
participate
on
deciding.
Should
it
be
two
or
six.
H
I
don't
think
that
alleviates
some
of
my
colleagues
concerned,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
alleviates
your
concern
mayor.
B
That's
remember
cross,
I
I
would
be
perfectly
fine.
Having
commission
decide
the
appropriate
distribution
of
those
two
years.
I
think
we
should
also
consider
the
possibility.
It
may
be
a
question
of
whether
the
next
election
thereafter
is
2026
or
2028,
and
the
reality
is.
However,
this
decision
is
made.
It's
always
going
to
be
made
with
somebody
in
office
or
somebody
about
to
get
into
office.
H
But
put
what
on
the
ballot
in
2022.
H
Okay,
so
that
so
what
I
am
suggesting,
then,
which
would
be
allowing
the
charter
revision
commission
to
decide?
Is
it
a?
Is
it
a
a
short
two-year
term
or
a
long
six-year
term
for
the
next
mayor
that
they
decide
that
in
march
of
2022,.
H
Well,
it
would
be
on
a
ballot
in
march
of
2022
exactly
yeah,
so
then
that
way
it's
determined
before
the
november
elections
of
2022.
So
that
way
everybody
knows
between
march
november,
if
they're
voting
for
a
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term,
that's
correct,
okay,
and
that
would
essentially
then
because
we'd
have
to
otherwise
we'd
have
to
make
a
decision
today.
If
we
were
talking
about
extending
your
term
two
years,
if,
if,
if
that
were
the
case,.
H
Yeah
all
right.
Well
again,
I
am
agnostic
on
two
or
six
years.
I've
made
my
argument
as
to
why,
certainly,
I
think
that
either
one
I
think
has
positives
and
and
negatives.
Certainly,
I
think
right.
We've
heard
some
input
on
on
what
people
feel,
as
in
regards
to
the
two
years
or
the
six
years,
but
I
do
think
I've
made
it
very
clear
as
well
that
I
feel
as
though
our
our
voters
should
have
that
opportunity
in
2022
to
be
able
to
decide
this
gives
them
two
opportunities.
H
So
I'm
comfortable
with
that
that
amendment
as
well
and
and
and
certainly
I
respect
councilmember
adenis
concern
right
that
that
she's
not
necessarily
interested
in
accepting
any
any
friendly
amendments
if
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
an
indication
of
the
unity
that
the
the
mayor
so
expressly
pointed
out
in
his
memorandum,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
that
as
a
as
a
a
direction.
Certainly
I
provided
my
input
too
in
regards
to
the
planning
commission.
I
think
that
would
be
the
only
piece
of
this
that
I
would
be
willing
to
bifurcate.
H
If
that's
a
contention,
because
I
know
I
personally
would
like
to
add
that
to
this
ballot
in
in
november
of
2020,
and
if
there
are
others,
including
yourself,
mayor
that
don't
want
to,
I
think
we
we
could.
We
could
give
the
professional
courtesy
to
allow
you
to
vote
no
on
that
today.
If
that
meant
that,
indeed,
you
were
willing
to
vote
yes
on
the
collective
agreement
of
what
we
have
as
a
motion
and
the
friendly
amendments,
I'm
suggesting.
H
H
That
so
you've
shifted
it
up
a
little
bit.
I
think
I
was
describing
that
we
would
put
it
in
front
of
the
commission
and
the
voters
ultimately
in
march
of
2022,
whether
it
was
a
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term
for
the
next
mayor.
H
Not
whether
or
not
we
moved
the
mayor's
election
because
we
would
have
to
decide
on
that
today.
Otherwise,
how
do
we
have
a
primary
race
for
the
next
mayor
in
march
of
2022,
which
I
think
we
would
have
to
decide
on
that.
B
So
the
real
question
is
what
happens
after
2022
that
could
be
left
to
public
input,
followed
by
a
vote
at
this
point.
All
of
us
are
winging
it
we're
all
just
guessing.
Well,
maybe
this
two
years
will
be
better.
Maybe
six
years
would
be
better
if
we
really
want
public
input,
let's
really
have
public
input.
H
I
actually
believe
that
was
my
recommendation
at
the
end
of
that
memo
was
rather
than
sort
of
rush
everything
I'm
not
looking
at
it
right
now,
but
I
believe
the
last
sort
of
recommendation
that
I
gave
was
why
why
rush
these
components
in
you
know
this
hastily
done
compromise
and
and
and
not
put
anything
on
the
ballot
when
we
know
that
we
actually
have
time
before
the
2024
next
presidential
election,
and
so
I
am
not
necessarily
against
that
either.
H
But
if
we
have
an
opportunity
to
move
forward
with
knowing
that
we
can
move
the
mayor's
race
to
the
presidential
cycle,
put
that
on
the
ballot
this
year
and
allow
the
the
the
commission
to
charter
revision
commission
to
determine
either.
Is
it
two
or
six
years
for
the
next
mayor?
I
would
prefer
to
do
that.
It
sounds
like
you're,
not
necessarily
comfortable
with
that,
though
you
would
rather
have
it
all
go
to
the
charter
revision
commission,
and
then
we
don't
put
the
moving
the
mayor's
race
on
the
on
the
ballot.
This
november.
H
Yeah
you
would
be
debating
between,
is
it
2024
or
2028
agreed
yeah
yeah.
Look,
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
terribly
against
that
either
that
we
we
sort
of
slow
the
process
down
even
further
to
say:
let's,
let's
allow
the
charter
revision
commission
to
decide
on
not
only
how
it's
done
right
in
regards
to
to
moving
the
mayor's
race
with
including
what
happens
to
the
odd
number
districts
which
we've
talked
about
right,
that
we
don't
know
necessarily
the
impact
of
that.
H
So
that
could
be
part
of
the
discussion
as
well
as
is
it
a
two
or
a
you
know,
a
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term.
So
when
do
we
actually
do
it?
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
against
that
either.
I
don't.
I
think
that
that
may
be.
I
don't
know
if
that'll
be
acceptable
by
the
maker
of
the
motion,
so
that
that
probably
won't
be
a
friendly
amendment.
H
But
if,
ultimately,
the
amendment
that
we
have
on
the
floor
fails,
I
think
that
might
be
worth
a
conversation,
but
I'll
kick
it
over
to
the
maker
of
the
motion
at
this
point,
because
I've
laid
out
a
couple
at
least
friendly
amendments.
Besides
this
one
that
the
mayor
just
pointed
out
that
I
I
think
are
are
worthwhile,
it
doesn't
look
like,
though,
that
the
mayor
is
is
fully
on
board
unless
we
we
move
everything
over
to
the
charter
revision
commission.
But
I'm
happy
to
hear
what
the
maker
of
the
motion
states.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
council
member.
You
know
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
I
think
one
of
the
the
areas
that
we
all
agreed
on
and
I
thought
we
had
turned
a
corner-
was
the
approval
in
the
november
2020
ballot
measure
to
add
a
measure
outlining
the
mayoral
election
with
the
with
a
presidential
year,
and
it
was
even
written
about
in
in
an
article.
It
was
hyped
up
as
such,
some
of
my
residents
and
some
of
the
stakeholders
even
told
me.
Oh
well,
it
sounds
like
you
know.
F
The
compromise
has
already
been
made
and
so
and
the
kind
of
side
a
sigh
of
relief,
seeing
seeing
some
of
that
from
our
mayor-
and
I
was
very
appreciative
of
the
message
of
unity
in
your
memo
mayor
specifically
acknowledging
that
we
really
shouldn't
be
fighting
with
one
another
when
there's
so
many
issues
that
our
residents
need
us
to
be
in
union
with
each
other
to
address,
and
it
sounds
like
as
soon
as
we
address
one
issue.
F
It's
like
a
matter
of
whack-a-mole
council
member
corrales,
you're
doing
a
great
job
in
terms
of
addressing
some
of
those
concerns,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
that
you're
pivoting
this
much
and
I'm
I'm
willing
to
entertain
this
this
amendment,
I
just
don't
see
a
very
sincere
support
for
for
this
motion
on
the
floor
and
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
really
saddened.
F
F
This
was
born
out
of
community
organization
versus
really
us,
and
so
I
I
I
can't
see
a
truer,
a
voice
being
heard
and
and
and
and
voiced
than
the
fair
elections
among
all
of
these
other
items,
and
so
I'll.
Take
your
your
amendment
very
resistantly,
because
I
don't
see
a
genuine
agreement
here,
even
though
the
message
is
about
unity,
I've
yet
to
see
that
and
I've
yet
to
see
us
moving
forward
as
part
of
the
messaging
that
was
in
this.
G
H
H
It
was
this
last
portion
that
would
be
the
decision
of
whether
the
the
next
term
or
the
term
for
the
next
mayor
would
be
two
years
or
six
years
would
be
decided
upon
by
the
charter
revision
commission
to
be
concluded
in
a
election
in
march
of
2022.
G
So
also
just
to
clarify
is:
would
the
mayor's
election
be
moved
to
2024.
H
No,
the
the
there
would
be
an
election
in
2022
in
we.
We
would
not
know
if
it's
for
two
or
six
years
until
march
of
2022
in
the
primary,
as
we
discussed
earlier.
G
H
No,
that
would
be
decided
upon
in
march
of
2022
by
the
charter
revision
commission.
Would
it
be
2024
or
would
it
be
2028.
G
G
B
Okay,
anything
further
councilmember,
no
we'll
go
to
no
okay,
councilman.
A
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
so
if
this
gets
moved
to
march
of
2022,
what
happens
if
the
elections
are
moved
to
june
2022.
I
Well,
I
I
can
answer
that
question.
The
city's
elections
by
default
under
the
charter
are
to
be
consolidated
with
the
statewide
primary
election,
as
well
as
a
statewide
general
election.
So
if
the
state
moves
its
elections,
then
the
city's
elections
will
move
automatically
as
well,
and
so,
if
the
june
2022,
if
the
primary
in
2022
is
moved
to
june,
the
city's
election
will
move
to
june
of
2022
and
then
that
just
means
that,
if
you're
going
to
submit
a
ballot
measure,
you'll
have
additional
time
to
do
it.
A
A
So
so
we
have
an
option
that
authorizes
the
city
council
or
any
member
or
members
of
the
council
to
author
and
submit
a
ballot
measure
argument
in
favor
of
the
ballot
measure
or
but
determines
that
rebuttal
arguments
will
not
be
allowed
or
the
submissions
middle
of
rebuttal
arguments
in
response
to
arguments
for
against
the
ballot
measure
and
authorizes
the
city
council
or
any
member
or
members
of
the
city
council
to
author
and
submit
a
rebuttal.
I
No,
that
decision
doesn't
need
to
be
made
today
that
will
be
presented
for
the
council
with
the
ballot
measure
on
the
fourth.
G
Okay,
the
language
will
appear
on
all
the
ballot
measures,
so
you'll
have
to
make
a
decision
on
all
the
ballot
measures
with
regard
to
that
language.
It
just
appeared
today
because
that
we
wanted
to
give
you
the
form
of
the
ballot
measure
and,
as
mark
said,
all
of
those
choices
will
have
to
be
made
in
august.
The
fourth
on
all
of
the
ballot
measures.
A
Good,
thank
you.
You
know.
Obviously,
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
around
democracy.
I
my
preference,
is
the
second
option
which
would
allow,
just
as
we
allowed
council
member
johnny
kamis
to
participate
in
rebuttal
and
opposition
arguments
to
measure
e
that
the
council
would
not
be
silenced
from
participating
in
similar
actions
as
councilmember
camis
did
previously,
and
I
look
forward
to
to
seeing
that
on
august
4th.
You
know
I
wanted
to
have
I
just
I'll
keep
it
short.
A
I
just
I
wanted
to
make
some
comments
around
oh
and
also
a
since
we're
giving
a
lot
to
the
commission.
I
just
wanted
to
double
check,
so
the
commission
per
the
scope
of
work
from
vice
mayor
jones's
memo
is
their
scope
of
work.
It
includes
the
odd
number
districts.
Is
that
correct?
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying.
I
I
also
I
just.
Lastly
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
the
planning
commission
to
say
that
I'm
disappointed
you
know,
we've
heard
calls
for
unity
and
stability,
but
it
seems
that
when
we
fight
for
our
communities,
it's
divisive,
you
know,
and
yet
this
planning
commission
vote
in
spite
of
having
reforms
that
when
people
were
watching
and
when
that
item
was
in
the
press,
there
was
a
desire
to
have
actual
reform
and
now
suddenly
it.
A
You
know
people
are
concerned
about
diversity
and
reform
when
they
were
not
concerned
about
diversity.
When
the
majority
of
planning
commission
members
came
from
district
six
and
when
the
east
side
did
not
have
any
representation,
and
so
now
there's
this
sudden
concern
about
planning
commissions
and
now
people
want
to
get
rid
of
it.
So
you
know
fine
we're
subject
to
the
vote
of
a
majority
of
this
council
on
any
given
tuesday.
A
B
Thank
you,
councilman
esparza.
If
you're
referring
any
comments,
I've
made
I've
been
very
consistent
about
my
concerns
about
having
an
11-member
planning
commission,
where
there
would
be
an
implicit
connection
between
a
planning
commissioner
and
a
council
member
and
the
independence
of
that
planning.
Commission.
I
have
also
been
clear
that
I
fully
support
ensuring
that
there
might
be
diversity,
particularly
geographic
diversity,
on
the
planning
commission,
and
we
can
do
that
through
districting,
exactly
as
council
member
davis
suggested,
as
I
have
suggested
earlier
in
months
prior.
A
B
A
D
Yes,
so
so
thank
you
mayor,
I've
kind
of
lost
track
of
the
various
threads
and
I'm
trying
to
think
what
I
can
add
to
this
discussion.
That
hasn't
already
been
said
so
I'll
just
kind
of
share
some
some
thoughts
about
what
I've
heard
some
reactions
of
mine
to
the
discussion.
Sorry,
let
me
move
this
screen
down
here,
so
I'm
looking
at
you
on.
D
I
just
want
to
say
that
a
few
weeks
ago,
this
this
body
on
a
split
vote,
decided
to
move
forward
with
a
ballot
measure
and
in
the
intervening
holiday
weeks
of
july
recess,
we've
heard
more
from
community
and
and
some
people
change
their
minds
in
regards
to
process,
and
I
can
appreciate
that
so
there
is
a
change
in
process
that
we're
discussing
about
the
timing
of
all
this,
letting
the
idea
of
expanding
mayoral
powers
breathe
more
and
letting
a
commission
have
a
public
process
to
help
the
community
understand
more
of
what
we're
really
dealing
with
and-
and
I
can
appreciate
that
and
that's
fine
what
I
don't
think
we're
doing-
which
I
think
some
council
members
may
you
know
be.
D
Thinking
is
that
we,
we
are
also
backtracking
on
the
the
notion
that
san
jose
needs
to
move
towards
a
system
where
there
is
more
accountability
in
one
person
in
this
in
this
body
that
we
serve
on
and
and
I'm
not
backing
off
with
that.
D
I
think
I'm
the
one
person
on
this
council
that
has
advocated
for
the
strong
mayor
most
vigorously
through
my
memo
and
through
previous
comments,
and
I
still
believe
that-
and
I
am
fine
with
sending
commission
having
them
study
that
I
don't
feel
that
it
is
somehow
improper
for
us
as
a
body
to
shape
the
discussion
or
assign
the
commission
what
to
look
at
in
terms
of
moving
the
discussion
more
towards
fleshing
out
why
it's
important
to
have
a
strong
mayor
or
what
the
benefits
are.
D
Because
really,
I
think
what
my
understanding
over
the
past
few
weeks
is
that
the
feedback
we've
gotten
through
polling
and
other
methods
is
that
the
community
is
a
bit
confused.
They
they
support
the
idea
of
checks
and
balances.
They
support
the
idea
of
having
accountability
in
one
individual.
But
when
you
put
three
different
ideas
in
a
75
word
ballot
measure
things
get
a
bit
confusing
and
they're
not
clear
on
that.
D
So
to
the
extent
that
we
have
more
time
and-
and
we
have
a
public
process-
a
commission
to
flesh
out
those
ideas-
that's
fine,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
delaying
this
measure
is
the
same
thing
as
abandoning
the
idea
completely
and
going
to
a
commission
to
say.
Well,
why
don't
you
just
come
up
with
your
best
ideas
and
let's
do
whatever
you
know.
The
public
process
leads
us.
D
I
think
there's
nothing
wrong
with
this
council
guiding
that
discussion
and
I
understand
we've
had
discussions
about
democracy
and
whatnot,
but
I
will
say
that
while
I
don't
represent
san
jose
broadly
any
one
person
I
have
my
constituencies.
I
have
groups
that
support
or
don't
support
me
like
each
and
every
one
of
us.
D
So
I
I
kind
of
want
to
push
back
on
on
the
notion
that
you
know
when
we
as
a
body
give
direction.
We
are
somehow
being
undemocratic
because
we
are
not
inviting
the
public
to
to
comment
or
sit
in
with
us
on
every
topic
that
we
discuss.
D
I
think
it's
fair
game
for
us
to
say
you
know
we,
the
majority
of
this
council,
maybe
not
everybody,
but
the
majority
of
this
quality
at
this
particular
moment
feels
that
san
jose
needs
to
move
towards
a
strong
mayor
system
or
at
least
stronger
mayor
system
and
form
a
commission
to
explore
that
and
to
come
back
with
those
findings.
And
you
know,
after
this
election
cycle
there
might
be
a
different
composition.
D
You
can
change
that
again
that
that's
how
democracy
works,
but
I
don't
think
it's
it's
somehow
foul
play
or
inappropriate
for
us
to
set
the
agenda
for
whatever
commission
to
come
back
with
that's
my
personal
opinion.
As
for
the
the
moving
the
mayoral
election,
you
know
I've
been
on
the
record.
D
I
feel
consistently
saying
that
I'm
not
swayed
by
by
the
arguments
put
forth
because
again,
barriers
to
entry
and
voting
in
santa
clara
county
are
very
low
in
in
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
I
understand
we're
here
and
I
would
never
advocate
to
move
the
mayor's
election
away
from
a
presidential
year.
It
just
is
where
it
is.
I
think
elections
are
there,
it's
the
cycle
and
we
just
go
with
it.
D
I
was
resistant
to
spending
money
to
put
this
on
a
ballot
measure
and
then
we've
already
spent
money
with
the
recount
and
now
we're
here.
So
I
see
the
momentum
and
I'm
not
going
to
oppose
that,
but
in
doing
so
we
do
create
this
problem
with
the
the
two-year
gap
in
the
shift
and
in,
in
my
personal
opinion,
as
a
process
matter.
I
I
am
in
favor
of
extending
the
current
mayoral
term
by
two
years
and
and
that
for
me,
is
a
process
matter.
D
I
I
understand
that
I
I
appreciate
what
marilyn
carter
has
done
for
the
city
and-
and
you
know
I'm
happy
with
his
leadership,
but
even
this
were
a
mayor
that
I
did
not
approve
of
the
mayor
that
I
disagreed
with
the
mayor.
That
was
on
an
opposite
political
spectrum
with
me.
I
still
believe
as
a
process
matter.
That's
the
best
thing
to
do,
because
it
is
a
problem
of
our
own
creation.
This
problem
of
this
two-year
gaffe
is
not
really
a
problem.
D
It
matters
whether
you're
going
to
be
in
office
for
four
years
or
six
years
or
two
years
I
mean
the
the
risk
of
investing
a
year
of
your
life
in
a
campaign
getting
your
spouse
and
putting
them
in
the
public
light
your
kids
and
whatnot,
and
then
going
in
there
and
taking
the
city
down
one
direction,
trying
to
figure
out
and
learn
what
you're
doing
you
know
think
about
any
one
of
us
think
about
what
we've
done
in
our
first
term,
two
years
in.
D
D
Just
getting
your
bearings
about
you,
you're
hitting
a
certain
stride
right
around
the
mid-year
mark
and
then
you
have
to
be
judged.
But
what
have
you
done
in
your
first
two
years?
Well,
I've
been
learning
my
first
two
years,
I've
been
figuring
things
out,
navigating
the
process
and
using
my
best
judgment
and
honing
my
skills.
D
So
I
do
think
that
you
know
for
many
reasons
you
set
up
an
incumbent
who,
who
has
the
two
years
who's
more
likely
going
to
win,
maybe
or
even
if
not,
you
set
them
up
for
failure,
because
what
can
you
accomplish
and
run
on
after
two
years?
For
that
extended
term?
D
What
have
you
done
in
the
two
terms
that
you
deserve
another
four
years
two
years
to
deserve
another
four
years?
And
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
you
can
mount
a
successful
campaign
on
that,
except
if
you
spend
your
two
years
kind
of
thinking
about
just
winning
again
two
years
from
now
and
and
instead
of
you
know,
doing
the
job
of
serving
and
leading
and
to
the
extent
that
there
is
a
shift
again
with
another
candidate,
the
incumbent
loses
there
is
political
whiplash.
D
So
I
think
we
have
somebody
who
is
experienced,
somebody
who
knows
san
jose
and
who
has
led-
and
somebody
who
has
even
today
expressed
a
willingness
to
reach
across
the
aisle
and
unite
the
city
rather
than
divide
it
and
just
push
through
whatever
political.
You
know,
agendas
that
may
exist
because
he
or
she
has
the
votes
and-
and
I
think
that
is
a
sign
of
leadership,
and
I
would
appreciate
having
that
consistency
for
another
two
years
and
then
having
the
four-year
term,
be
aligned
in
in
2024..
D
That's
that's
my
personal
opinion,
because
who
wants
to
go
into
an
election,
and
I
heard
the
amendment
who
would
want
to
go
to
an
election,
not
knowing,
if
you're
going
to
serve
for
two
years
or
four
years
like
how
do
you
plan
your
family
around
that?
How
do
you
plan
your
life
around
that?
D
How
do
you
get
your
spouse
to
buy
into
that,
and
also
you
know
talking
about
good
governance
and
diversity
and
representation
and
equity,
and
all
that
I
think
we
need
to
to
make
it
easier
for
for
folks
of
all
backgrounds,
not
just
the
independently
wealthy,
not
people
who
are
financially
independent
to
run
for
public
office
and
part
of
that
is
giving
them
certainty.
When
I
step
out
and
put
my
name
out
there
and
run
and
hopefully
win,
you
know
what
what?
What
am
I
planning
for?
D
Am
I
getting
two
years
or
four,
and
I
think
the
the
four
years
is
what
people
generally
want.
I
think
that
a
part
of
this
is
also
you
know.
This
is
a
separate
discussion,
but
you
know
making
sure
that
all
elected
official
offices
at
all
level
are
paid
a
wage
at
a
certain
place
that
that
people
from
various
diverse
backgrounds
can
step
in
and
leave
their
job
and
and
and
try
to
step
into
a
position
of
leadership.
D
Finally,
with
the
planning
commission
issue,
I
I
think
that
I
I
recognize-
and
I
remember
very
clearly
what
council
member
spars
is
saying
it
was
a
late
night
meeting.
This
was
not
the
last
meeting
of
the
year.
It
was
like
the
second
to
last
or
maybe
the
third
to
last,
and
we
were
having
this
discussion
and
and
council
members.
As
far
as
recollection.
I
remember,
as
she
says
we
did
vote
on
this
and
whenever
we
have
a
planning,
a
a
motion
that
goes
to
the
sorry.
D
But
during
that
same
meeting
you
know
we
also
have
the
discussion
about
seven
being
the
magic
number
and
we
can
avoid
the
planning
commission
issue
going
to
voters
if
we
reduce
it
to
seven,
because
that's
what's
already
in
the
charter,
and
we
can
do
that
as
a
council
ordinance
as
opposed
to
any
other
number
being
at
nine
or
11
or
21
or
whatever
having
to
go
to
voters
and
that
can
save
us
some
some
financial
burdens.
D
In
doing
that,
and
I
think
we're
kind
of
saying
the
same
thing
here
in
in
terms
of
asking
for
diversity
and
representation
across
the
city.
We
can
do
that
by
by
recommissioning
and
redrawing
boundaries
in
a
way
that
we
have
a
commission
that
doesn't
is
not
a
in
essence,
a
shadow
council.
It
is
not
a
body
that
mirrors
the
city
council
and
sets
up
individuals
that
you
know,
or
maybe
hoping
to
run
for
city
council
in
a
future
date.
D
If
you
shift
the
boundaries
and
one
commissioner
on
the
planning
commission
represents
in
straddles
districts,
five
and
three
and
then
there's
one
that
straddles.
You
know
five
and
four
and
whatever
you
you
are
able
to
achieve
the
goals
of
diversity
and
representation
of
of
geography
and
the
east
side
and
the
north
side
and
the
west
side
without
having
to
jump
through
all
these
hurdles,
because
if
you
go
back
to
the
tape
of
that
meeting
and
my
line
of
questioning
to
staff,
what
is
the
planning
commission?
D
What
do
they
do
and
ultimately,
all
the
big
decisions
have
to
come
back
to
council
anyway.
So
they
are
not
spending
city
resources.
They
are
not
trying
to
attract
development
to
any
one
region.
They
are
a
body
that
accepts
applications
and
vets,
applications
from
private
developers
and
people
who
want
to
do
things
with
their
land
and
and
they
give
it
up
or
down.
Is
this
an
acceptable
project,
the
the
part
about
developing
about
you,
know,
diversity
or
caring
or
to
fight
gentrification,
or
to
include
more
amenities
in
a
certain
part
of
town?
D
That's
a
council
job.
That's
not
a
planning
commission
job
so
to
the
extent
that
the
planning
commission
is
guided
by
the
general
plan
and
whatever
decisions
that
they
make,
that
we
don't
agree
with.
We
can't
overturn
as
a
council,
I'm
I'm
not
concerned
with
the
the
body,
the
planning
commission
being
a
seven
body
panel
or
commission,
because
their
power
is
limited
and-
and
I
think
we
can
achieve
what
everybody
on
this
body
is
saying
by
moving
forward
with
that.
So
I
would
be
in
support
of
that.
D
I'm
not
making
any
amendments
necessarily
to
this,
because
I'm
not
sure
where
we're
at
necessarily,
but
I
would
simply
ask
that
as
part
of
the
direction
to
the
blue,
ribbon,
commission
or
or
the
char
review
task
force
whatever.
We
want
to
call
it
as
a
starting
point
for
their
discussions
that
they
read
the
memo
I
submitted
and
and
given
up
or
down
betting,
but
use
that
as
a
starting
point
for
discussion.
That's
all,
and
with
that
I'll
yield.
B
I
believe
councilmember
indicated
she
accepted
okay.
Those
amendments
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
ed.
B
Okay,
they're
more
hands
raised
and
everyone's
spoken
several
times.
So
let's
just
have
clarification
issues,
questions
vice
mayor.
I
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
So
if
I
understand
the
the
motion
on
the
floor
and
based
on
where
we
were
before
council
member
peralta's
friendly
amendments,
I
was
actually
95
there
in
terms
of
what
we
put
together.
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
eliminating
council
member
arranges
number
five.
I
did
want
some
clarity
though
councilmember
perales
was
your
direction
also
to
go
with
one
of
the
options
option
one
or
two
for
the
for
the
census,
or
was
that
left
open.
H
M
B
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
it
was
councilmember
davis
that
you
brought
up
the
option
too
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
that
through
our
own
ordinance
revision,
and
so
I
think
that's
practical
and
I'll
I'll
opt
for
that,
and
hopefully
everybody
can
agree
to
that
and
and
show
your
vote.
That
way.
I
Right
and
so
I
I
support
that,
council
member
arenas,
the
part
I
don't
support,
though,
is
moving
the
decision
to
go
with
two
years
or
six
years
to
the
charter
review
commission
for
all
the
issues
that
were
raised
in
terms
of
just
all
the
uncertainty.
I
But
the
other
issue,
too,
is
that
my
expectation
is
when
the
voters
vote
on
this,
that
what
happens
with
the
mayor
over
that
gap
period
of
time
should
be
part
of
their
decision-making
process.
I
So
I
don't
want
to
see
those
separated
out
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
my
preference
is
to
extend
the
mayor's
term
by
two
years,
so
unless
council
member
reigns,
is
willing
to
accept
that
friendly
amendment
to
extend
the
mirror's
term,
I
would
not
be
able
to
support
the
motion
and
if,
if
the
motion
fails,
I
will
make
a
new
motion
with
all
the
elements
that
we've
already
agreed
on
and
come
together
on
with
the
the
one
difference
of
extending
the
mayor's
term.
B
There
is
an
underlying
motion
to
be
clear,
so,
even
if,
if
this
should
pass,
and
obviously
it's
enacted,
if
it
doesn't
pass,
I
believe
we
go
to
council
member
carrasco's
motion
just
to
clarify.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
except
councilmember,
rayne's
promotion,
except
for
right.
It's
kind
of
like.
I
Clarification,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
point
that
okay,
besides
you
know
one
particular
disagreement
pretty
much
council
member
arrays.
This
motion
is,
is
the
one.
B
Okay,
councilman
pros.
H
There
may
be,
there
may
be
completely
overlapping
here
with
the
motions
but
we'll,
I
think,
we'll
nevertheless
get
to
figuring
out
what
happens
with
this
one
first,
so
I
think
number
one
so
that
there's
no,
I
think,
issue
on
the
the
major
discussions
we're
having
and
especially
around
this
planning
commission.
H
H
I
actually
did
find
my
my
memorandum
from
june
24th
or
find
the
the
final
sentence
where
I
did
actually
say
you
know
the
unnecessarily
rushed
nature
of
this
proposal
significantly
stifles
community
voices
and
eliminates
equitable
participation.
Therefore,
I
urge
my
colleagues
to
do
the
right
thing
and
reject
placing
anything
on
the
november
2020
ballot
and
instead
demand
the
proper
community
input
before
moving
forward
with
any
charter
amendments.
And
so
going
back
to
the
discussion
that
mayor
and
the
mayor,
you
and
I
were
having.
H
We
didn't
make
that
part
of
the
friendly
amendment.
But
hearing
certainly
on
the
commentary
and
recognizing
again
the
the
the
confusion
that
could
bring
in
march
of
2022.
I'm
comfortable
with
asking
councilmember
dennis
if
she's
willing
to
accept
that
as
well.
That
would
essentially
kick
the
entirety
of
the
discussion
over
to
the
charter
revision
commission
and
allow
them
to
make
that
decision
in
in
2022.
F
Oh
boy,
so
that
is
completely
leaving
everything
to
the
charter.
Revision
commission
is
that.
Okay,
that's.
I
F
Listen,
I
I.
I
don't
know
that
that
my
motion
is
my
motion
anymore
and
I
think
in
it.
I
really
was
accepting
a
lot
of
these
amendments
in
good
faith
and
in
hopes
that
I
would
earn
the
support
of
my
colleagues
and
somehow
I
I
continue
to
hear.
If
it's
not
one
issue,
it's
another
there'll
be
another
issue.
That'll
come
up.
That
will
be
the
issue
that
that
they
can't
agree
on
and
ultimately
I
think
it's
the
two-year
extension.
F
That
is.
That
is
the
underlying
reason
that
that
our
colleagues
can't
move
forward.
I
really
hope
I
mean
I
read
your
your
your
memo.
I've
read
your
comments
in
in
in
spotlight
and
I
was
really
hopeful
in
a
message
of
unity.
F
There's
nothing
more
that
I
would
like
than
to
serve
with
all
of
you
to
make
sure
that
our
city
is
supported
in
the
way
that
it
it
needs
to
doing
a
pandemic,
a
recession,
a
looming
loss
of
homes
for
for
many
of
our
families.
This
is
when
we
should
all
be
really
using
each
other
to
to
maximize
and
leverage
all
of
our
resources.
F
But
I
don't
know
that
that
anything
has
really
changed
from
the
last
meeting
to
today,
except
that
the
illusion
of
a
compromise.
F
There
was
an
appearance
of
an
illusion
of
a
compromise,
and
I
really
was
hoping
that
that
we
were
going
to
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
F
I
and
I'm
really
disappointed
I'm
disappointed,
because
I
I
feel
that
the
the
the
messages
that
I
heard
from
each
and
every
one
of
you
is
that
is
that
you
value
diversity
and
that
you
value
equity
and
that
you
want
people
to
contribute,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
it
has
to
be
everything
on
your
terms
and
I
don't
believe
in
an
election,
an
unelected
official
getting
additional
years
congress.
F
Does
this
assembly
members
do
this
every
two
years
they
go
out
for
election
if
they
can
do
it,
we
certainly
can
do
it
here
in
the
city
of
san
jose
and
they
do
it
without
a
pandemic,
and
they
do
it
with
they're
gonna.
Do
it
with
a
pandemic
in
in
the
horizon.
F
F
Finally,
because
I
don't
know
what
other
reason,
what
I
don't
know,
what
you're
going
to
pull
out
of
a
hat
now,
but
if
it
really
truly,
you
want
to
unify
us,
then
let's
move
forward
and
let's
make
this
motion
something
that
creates
a
reset
button
for
all
of
us
and
allows
for
us
to
put
things
in
the
past
and
for
us
to
move
forward
and
to
start
fighting
together
for
our
city,
because
at
this
point
we
are
so
divided
and
it
continues.
F
This
will
continue
to
to
ring
through
the
rest
of
the
year.
Unfortunately,
so
long
way
of
saying
I
will,
I
will
accept
your
friendly
amendment,
council
member,
I
just
don't
know,
you've
been
pivoting
every
which
way
to
make
sure
that
that
people
can
get
on
board,
and
I
really
appreciate
it-
the
there's
a
skill
set
to
that,
but
I'm
just
calling
it
as
it
is,
and
hopefully
prove
me
wrong.
Vote
vote
for
this
measure
vote
for
this
motion
and
let's,
let's
move
on
with
it.
B
H
Yeah,
so
essentially,
what
it
would
do
is
would
take
the
totality
of
the
discussion
that
we've
been
talking
about,
including
moving
of
the
mayor's
race
and
whether
or
not
you
know
this
affects
a
term
of
a
long-term,
a
two-year
term
or
a
six-year
term,
and
we
would
allow
the
charter
provision
commission
to
discuss
that
and
bring
back
their
recommendations
in
2022
and
and
then
we
would
put
that
on
a
ballot
if,
if
indeed
we
choose
to,
and
that
would
determine
how
we
move
forward
with
with
all
of
this.
H
B
H
Yes,
but
it,
but
in
essence
this
does
buy
everybody
time
because
right,
if
we're
not
at
this
point,
now
rushing
to
decide
on
what
the
next
mayor
gets
in
in
in
the
race
in
2024,
I
I
actually
don't
think
there's
the
rush
to
hit
the
2021.
now
we
would
have
to
if
we're
trying
to
get
to
march
of
2022.
Yes,.
B
N
B
Okay,
yeah,
I'm
supportive
of
that.
G
G
B
I
I
believe
so,
and
I
believe
those
would
come
back.
Okay-
is
that
the
maker
of
the
motions
understanding.
L
H
No
on
those
two
on
on
the
two
remaining
charter:
revisions-
okay,
given
that
we've
heard
some
people,
including
yourself,
say
that
you're
not
necessarily
comfortable
with
the
planning
commission
going
on
the
ballot
this
november
as
described
that
we
just
bifurcate
the
two
of
those
as
we're
going
to
decide
on
them.
Now,.
B
F
You
know,
I
said
my
piece.
Oh.
A
So
I
had
a
question
for
the
city
attorney,
so
ultimately,
charter
amendments
come
to
the
city
council
for
a
vote.
Is
that
correct.
B
Okay,
let's
vote
then
council
member
rance's
motion,
let's
be
clear
about
what
we're
voting
on
what
might
be
bifurcated
editor
tony.
Do
you
want
to
take
a
cut
at
this.
C
Okay,
so
I
have
highlighted
from
uranus's
memo
number
five
direct
staff
to
revise
redistricting,
that's
being
removed
to
a
separate
item.
It
will
not
be
included
with
this
item
and
then
I
have
can.
C
Understanding-
and
it's
highlighted
here
in
yellow-
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
mouse
pointing
to
it-
is
that
the
redistricting
planning
commission
items
from
number
five
of
councilmember
raynes's
memo
is
being
removed
from
this
particular
item
to
come
separately
on
august
4th.
C
B
C
Right
because
I
still
have
this-
I
keep
pointing
with
my
finger,
but
you
can't
see
it
in
the
2022
election
cycle
hold
either
an
election
for
six
year
term
or
special
two-year
mayoral
term.
So
I
still
have
that
effective
in
council
member
raynes's.
Memo.
K
Point
of
order
did
we
also
not
remove
the
in
the
subhead
approve
items
two
and
three
from
memorandum
from
council
member
crosscon
esparza
number
three.
We
removed
that
as
well.
The
mayoral
election
will
not
question
will
not
go
on
the
2020
ballot.
Is
that
correct.
B
H
I
B
L
I
also
don't
see
their
vice
mayor
chappie
jones
item
on
the
odd
number
districts.
I
Incorporated
my
my
whole
memo.
C
I
have
adopted
both
items
from
vice
mayor
jones
memo
up
here,
I'm
highlighting
it
with
changes
to
2a,
so
I
didn't
copy
and
paste
all
the
items
from
his
memo.
I
just
said
adopt
both
items.
B
B
A
G
My
understanding
at
this
point
is
that
this
is
just
dealing
with
items
that
will
not
be
on
the
ballot.
You
still
will
will
have
a
vote
as
to
whether
or
not
the
planning,
commission
and
the
redistricting
will
be
on
the
ballot,
because
those
require
charter
amendments.
This
motion
will
not
include
that.
A
And
so
the
motion
does
not
include
it
does
not
include
strong
mayor,
it
does
not
include
moving
the
mayoral
election
and
it
does
not
include
the
blue
ribbon
commission,
because
that's
something
we
can
do
ourselves
is
that
correct,
correct.
I
C
C
This
section
two
is
amended
down
here
from
perales,
so
that's
gonna
go
to
the
the
charter
review
commission
and
then
we
have
adopting
both
items
from
vice
mayor
jones.
Memo
with
language
changes
in
red.
K
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
clarify,
while
this
motion
doesn't
place
anything
on
the
ballot,
what
it
does
do
is
it
creates
the
charter
revision,
commission
and
the
scope
for
the
charter.
Commission
charter
revision
commission.
So
we
did
not
just
waste
a
day.
We
have
not
wasted
three
days.
We
are.
We
are
in
fact
doing
something
right
now,
even
though
we
have
not
placed
anything
on
the
ballot,
we
have
given
a
scope
to
a
commission.
G
B
All
right,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
B
So
let's
vote
tony.
C
N
A
C
A
A
C
C
B
B
Does
anyone
wish
to
speak
on
that
issue?
The
option
is
to
which
gives
the
council
flexibility
to
draft
a
municipal
code
provision
to
allow
for
additional
time,
particularly
with
this
delays
in
the
census.
I
now
support
that.
Is
there
any
comment,
all
right,
councilman,
frost.
H
B
H
B
Okay,
let's
vote
tony.
C
H
C
H
C
I
A
B
I
believe
you
made
the
motion
and
go
forward
to
expand
211
is
it?
Am
I
incorrect
about
that.
F
I
incorporated
what
was
already
in
the
in
the
language
that
the
lawyers
have
worked
out
and
moved
forward
in
the
resolution.
B
Okay,
yes,
all
right
and
councilman
davis.
K
So
I'm
agnostic
as
to
the
number
of
of
planning
commission
members
and
since
we
have
drastically
simplified
the
the
thing
that's
going
to
the
ballot.
It's
fine
with
me
if
we
have
11
members,
but
I
and
and
if
they're
geographically
tied,
that's
also
fine
with
me.
What
I
would
like
is
for
the
council
to
have
to
vote
on
them
all
and
not
for
them
not
to
be
individually
appointed
by
the
council.
Member
for
that
district
then.
B
K
I
just
think
it's
very
helpful,
so
let
me
give
a
comment
before
you
make
your
before.
You
make
your
decision
council
member
arenas.
I
think
it's
helpful
for
us
to
be
having
to
continue
to
have
the
discussions
on
the
dais
about
planning.
Commissioners.
We
don't
we
don't
get
to
do
that
in
terms
of
the
the
makeup
of
the
council.
K
We
don't
get
to
do
that
for
other
commissions,
although
I
and
I
think
it's
worth
a
try,
we
have
had
some
very
good
conversations
and
some
changes
to
the
planning
commission
that
have
allowed
for
greater
voices
and
greater
diversity
in
in
a
number
of
ways,
not
just
geographically,
as
I
said
before,
but
also
also
gender
and
race,
and
I
think
we
don't
know,
we
don't
know
what
that
what
that
means
for
the
decisions
necessarily.
K
But
I
do
know
that
the
diversity
on
our
council
has
changed
the
the
conversation
and
the
decisions
that
we
make
and
I
would
like
to
continue
being
able
to
to
address
those
issues
in
their
totality
for
the
planning
commission,
rather
than
have
this
just
an
appointment
system
as
we
do
for
other
commissions,
because
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
board
and
needs
to
be
representative
of
our
city.
So
that's
my
that's.
The
reasoning
for
my
request.
F
Right,
listen.
I
think
that
part
of
appointing
a
person
or
every
council
member
appointing
a
person
that
represents
their
district
is
is
a
part
of
of
integrating
diversity
and
different
voices
into
the
overall
commission.
F
I
you
know,
there's
something
about
someone
overriding,
my
recommendation
for
my
own
district.
That
just
doesn't
bode
well
for
me
right,
and
so,
if
there
is
a
majority
of
folks
who
don't
like
my
commissioner
or
applicant
in
particular,
then
I
will
be
then
my
district
won't
be
represented
by
somebody.
That
knows
my
district
that
understands
the
issues
that
understands
the
you
know
the
development
policy
that's
in
place
for
my
particular
district
and
so,
and
I
think
each
one
of
us
has
a
different
different
elements
and
different.
F
You
know
we're
all
unique
in
a
very
way.
Downtown
has
a
lot
more
development,
obviously
than
mine.
So
I
think
we,
we
know
the
kind
of
candidate
that
we
need
to
represent
our
area,
and
I
would
I
wouldn't
want
to
give
away
that
level
of
or
that.
F
My
my
my
recommendation
to
the
greater
council,
because
otherwise
we
we
go
back
to
the
same
place,
we're
in
the
same
place.
We
might
as
well
only
have
seven
or
three
or
two.
It
doesn't
really
matter,
because
the
majority
were
overruled.
So
I
I
apologize.
I
won't
be
able
to
accept
your
friendly
amount.
Okay,.
G
G
B
B
The
question
is
whether
we
would
want
to
delineate
that
that
would
continue
in
the
future
and
by
doing
that
and
ensure
that
that
is
reflected
in
the
charter.
Can.
B
B
I
would
be
supportive
of
this
amendment
or
this
motion
if
we
did
have
a
language
aligned
with
what
council
member
davis
just
articulated,
namely
that
there
would
be
a
council-wide
participation
in
selection,
as
we
do
today,
rather
than
simply
a
single
council
member
selecting
their
delegate-
and
I
know
this
is
an
issue
that
is
not
on
everyone's
minds
today,
but
it
was
certainly
15
years
ago
when
there
was
a
widespread
condemnation
of
what
was
considered
to
be
then
a
mini
mayor
system,
and
it
led
to
a
lot
of
very
questionable
decision
making
and
ultimately,
in
years
prior,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
some
corruption,
because
there
was
in
fact
a
convicted
council
member
and,
I
believe,
strongly
in
what
councilmember
davis
has
articulated
is
critically
important
to
ensure
the
independence
of
the
planning
commission
from
the
council.
B
A
Thank
you,
okay.
So
the
original
memo
that
we
submitted
in
april
2019
had
the
structure
of
commissions
where
we
would
have
representation
in
each
from
each
council
district
to
address
the
geographic
inequities
that
have
occurred,
particularly
on
the
planning
commission.
For
a
long
time
and
and
look,
I
think
we
have
bad
decisions
made
all
the
time
we
have
decisions
made
that
I
don't
agree
with
right,
but
we
have
a
system
and
where
we
have
before
us
an
opportunity
to
create
a
new
system
that
would
have.
A
Sorry
to
create
a
new
system
that
would
have
that
kind
of
representation.
I
actually
don't
have
a
problem
with
council
member
davis's.
A
Desire
to
have
planning
commissioners
come
before
us
at
the
council.
I
think
it
is
an
important
commission,
which
is
why
we
fought
so
hard
last
year
against
not
having
representation.
I
think
it's
why,
particularly
in
the
east
side
that
hasn't
had
infrastructure,
you
know
for
many
years
and
why
this
east
side
is
the
only
place
in
the
city
that
has
formula-based
zoning.
It's
why
it's
it's
important
to
have
that
representation
and
it
shouldn't
just
be
important
to
the
east
side.
A
Frankly,
I
think
it
should
be
important
to
every
every
council,
district
and
neighborhood
in
our
city
that
we
all
have
unique
unique
issues
in
our
city,
but
we
do
need
that
representation,
and
so,
if,
if
we
had
an
opportunity
to
have
folks
come
and
be
interviewed
before
us
at
the
council,
I
think
that's
fine.
F
Well,
I
I
want
to
ask
a
question
about
that.
So
so
say
there
is
one
candidate
per
per
district
that
has
been
moved
forward
by
by
each
of
us.
How
would
the?
How
would
the?
F
How
would
the
council
decide
or
eliminate
so
say
my
candidate
just
didn't,
muster
up
and
and
so
that
one
gets
xed
out
so
then
I
have
to
make
another
recommendation,
or
does
that
mean
that
the
next
one
up,
if
there
is
an
additional
commissioner
that
has
applied,
but
I
you
know
I
didn't
appoint
it
or
somebody
from
whatever
respective
district,
didn't
appoint
that
commissioner,
then
that
commissioner
moves
up,
I
don't
understand
exactly
how
the
process
would
work.
B
Let
me
suggest,
and
councilman
davis
feel
free
to
weigh
in
here,
but
I
think
it
would
operate
as
it
does
today.
It
would
be
open
to
everyone
in
your
district
who
wants
to
apply,
and
then
we
would
have
a
windowing
process
as
we
do
today,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
200
interviews.
Obviously
it's
a
limited
number
and
then
those
three
individuals
from
your
district
would
come
before
us
and
we
would
select
among
them,
as
we
did
today,
that
wouldn't
be
your
candidate
or
my
candidate.
F
F
I
will
bend
with
the
with
the
flow
here
if
that's
where
we
can
find
consensus,
but
I
just
want
to
hear
a
couple
of
other
voices
before
I
accept
that
friendly
amendment.
If.
G
I
can
also
say
something
the
reason
we
we
moved
forward
with
this,
so
that
it
was
clear
that
you
would
have
to
have
you
would
get
representation
from
each
district.
We
left
the
process
open
that
the
council
could
consider
that
separately.
We
have
a
lot
of
rules
and
ordinances
that
apply
for
to
appointments,
and
so
we
wanted
to
at
least
get
the
principle
that
there
would
be
one
for
each
district
and
the
process
would
be
left
up
to
the
mayor
and
the
council.
G
As
the
mayor
indicated,
we
currently
have
processes
that
can
easily
be
used
in
this
process,
and
so
we
didn't
want
to
create
a
situation
where
the
charter
had
all
the
details
when,
in
fact
the
council
may
want
different
details
so
long
as
each
of
the
districts
represented
somebody
from
that
district.
F
So
the
the
the
at
the
very
least
the
assurance
is
that
there
will
be
a
representative
from
that
particular
district.
It's
just
not
of
the
of
the
council
members
choosing
or
appointment
right.
G
F
It,
oh
okay,
okay,
so
as
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
very
good
point
to
clear
up
that
at
the
very
least
that
it's
that
you
know
my
appointment
or
my
or
or
the
candidates
in
my
district
aren't
overridden
by
the
the
remainder
of
the
council
is
important.
F
So
yet
I
I'll
allow
that
council,
member
davis,
your
original
friendly
amendment,
know
that
I've
expanded
my
understanding
of
that,
and
so
it's
an
assurance
of
each
district
receiving
a
commissioner
and
and
the
only
difference
is
that
all
of
us
get
to
vote
on
who
that
is,
and
so
I'm
comfortable.
Actually,
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
B
D
Sure
I
I'm
listening
to
the
discussion
and
I,
of
course
I'll
support
this
with
the
amendment,
but
let
me
just
also
kind
of
make
one
last
pitch.
We
we've
been
through
all
this.
You
know
charter
stuff,
sending
a
ballot
measure
to
voters
and
of
course
each
one
cost
cost
a
sizeable
amount
of
money,
because
we
have
to
print
it
on
the
on
the
ballot
and
then
there
has
to
be
arguments
for
and
against
and
and
whatnot.
D
You
know
we're
we're
not
doing
the
the
mayor
thing
right
this
this
november,
so
we're
saving
that
we
did
incur
some
cost
on
on
the
recount
for
the
the
ballot
measure
with
previously.
You
know
it's
kind
of
a
wash
now,
but
we
could
potentially
still
achieve
what
what
the
council
members
are
discussing
here
by
not
going
to
the
ballot
and
just
simply
using
the
magic
number
of
seven,
and
I
just
want
to
raise
that
up
again
and
I'm
not
really
pushing
for
it.
D
But
I
just
want
to
push
it
out
for
debate.
I
will
support
what's
on
the
on
the
table
here,
but
but
being
cognizant
of
our
shortfall
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
what
happened
with
the
state
budget
saying
how
much
they're
going
to
take
back
from
the
city.
I
think
there
was
a
number
that
the
mayor
announced
a
few
meetings
ago
of
what
15
million
potentially
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
still
happening,
or
it
was
more
or
less,
but
I
do
am
I
buzzing
or
is
there
static?
Is
that
me.
D
But
but
anyways,
so
I
am
cognizant
of
trying
to
just
you
know,
scrap
and
pinch
dollars
where
we
can
and
if
we
can
achieve
the
goals
that
we've
outlined
in
terms
of
representation
and
diversity
by
redrawing
the
planning
commission
districts
to
have
seven
that
that
cross
represent
different
council
districts.
D
I
I
still
think
that's
that's
the
ideal,
but
if
the
will
of
the
council
is
not
there,
then
that's
fine,
but
I
just
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
the
argument
or
the
criticism
previously
of
previous
iterations
of
our
planning
commission
that
brought
us
to
this
very
debate
that
that
district
six
was
overrepresented,
the
the
implication
being
that
the
district
six
planning
commissioners
cared
more
about
bringing
resources
to
district
six
and
not
so
much
about
the
east
side
or
other
parts
that
weren't
represented
on
the
commission.
D
I
think
you
don't
solve
that
by
more
by
adding
more
planning
commissioners
that
are
tied
to
a
geographic
district.
So
if
the
argument
is
the
district's,
six
commissioners
only
cared
about
district
six.
I
don't
think
it's
a
fix
to
put
on
a
district
four
council
member
and
a
district,
eight
council
member
and
one
from
every
district
that
are
champions
for
their
district.
D
I
I
do
think
you
need
commissioners
who
are
thinking
more
about
the
city
as
a
whole
and-
and
you
know
even
that
argument,
there's
the
the
implication
that
plan
commissioners
can
actually
draw
resources
to
different
parts
of
the
city
to
council
members.
Farsi's
point:
you
know
lack
of
infrastructure
on
the
east
side.
You
know
using
a
formula
to
do
planning-
that's
all
true,
but
that
that
again
is
not
something
that
I
feel
that
the
planet
commission
addresses
and
resolves
and
makes
a
policy
of
choice
to
make
those
changes.
D
That's
that's
on
us
as
a
council
right,
that's
on
us
as
a
body
that
represents
the
entire
city
and
in
my
weekly
or
sorry,
my
monthly
meetings
with
the
planning
director.
We
review
plane
applications
in
north
san
jose.
I
get
a
sense
of
that.
I
am
not
privy
to.
I
suppose
I
could
ask,
but
I
don't
inquire
about
development
happening
in
evergreen
or
you
know
in
willow,
glen
and
the
other
commit
the
other
council
members.
D
So
again,
if,
if
there's
an
openness
to
moving
to
seven
and
I'm
not
fighting
for
seven
except
that
it's
already
in
the
charter-
and
it
would
save
us
going
to
about
measure
and
save
with
some
dollars,
but
I
do
think
we
can
achieve
the
the
goals
of
equity
and
representation
and
diversity
without
having
one
commissioner
per
district,
but
that's
my
personal
opinion
and,
of
course,
I'll
support.
What's
on
the
table,
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
one
last
time.
Thank
you.
B
Yeah,
I
I
appreciate
customer
dip's
point,
as
I've
articulated
before
I
would
ask,
and
as
the
motions
are
currently
formulated,
is
the
assumption
that
these
last
two
items
would
be
a
single
item
before
the
voters
on
single
ballot.
G
B
B
Three
is
an
unlucky
number
if
you
only
have
enough
budget
for
two-
and
I
I
know
I
expressed
previously-
I'm
not
crazy
about
aligning
these,
for
example
with
ipa,
but
it
seems
to
me
if
this
is
all
stuff
that
we
think
is
pretty
perfunctory
anyway
and
likely
to
pass
it's
something
we
could
consider
and
the
question
would
be
then,
how
hard
would
it
be
for
us
on
tuesday
and,
more
importantly,
for
you
by
the
deadline
to
say,
hey,
we're
going
to
make
three
ballot
measures
and
two
ballot
measures?
Does
that
work.
G
Well,
you
know
well
we're
not
going
to
yeah,
so
unfortunately
mark
will
be
the
drafts
draftsperson
on
it.
It
would
be
great
if
you
could
tell
us
today.
I
understand
you
may
not
be
able
to
because
we
do
have
a
very
short
period
after
the
fourth.
We
have
to
have
it
in
final
form.
G
On
the
seventh,
you
need
to
see
what
it
looks
like,
so
we
don't
like
actually
drafting
on
the
dice
the
new
language
of
what
it
would
look
like
combined
and,
as
you
all
know,
there
is
going
to
be
one
question
for
each
ballot
measure,
and
so
the
question
will
have
to
include
all
of
the
or
the
significant
elements
of
the
ballot
measure.
So
going
from
one
ques
from
three
questions
to
questions
I
mean
it's
all
possible.
G
B
G
B
Like
then,
to
perhaps
after
this
motion
is
resolved,
raise
a
possibility
that
we
would
come
back
with
two
separate
75
word
statements,
one
that
would
reflect
only
one
set
that
would
reflect
the
two
separate
measures
and
one
that
would
represent
them
in
a
consolidated
way.
So
the
council
could
view
them
both
and
have
some
judgment
about
whether
that
looks
reasonable
and
intelligible
to
voters.
B
A
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
again
point
out
that
we've
voted
on
this
twice
in
support
of
having
an
11-member
planning
commission
on
the
ballot,
and
I
I
agree
with
councilmember
davis
that
I
think
it's
beneficial
for
all
of
us
to
interview
and
continue
that
practice
of
interviewing
and
voting
on
planning.
A
Commissioners,
I
think
it's
enlightening
for
us
to
go
through
that
process,
and
I
wanted
to
read
from
the
original
memo
from
mayor
the
mayor,
the
vice
mayor,
councilmember
carrasco
and
myself
from
april
2019
that
it
was
to
direct
the
city
attorney
to
draft
and
return
to
council
with
the
charter
amendment
for
the
november
2020
ballot
that
would
align
the
planning
commission
to
the
structure
of
other
council
nominated
commissions
to
include
11
members
with
one
from
each
council
district
and
one
at-large
member,
and
so
again,
thank
you
to
councilmember
kamis,
who
reiterated
the
desire
to
have
one
from
each
district.
C
L
H
N
C
I
C
I
C
B
All
right,
okay,
so
that
is
also
unanimous,
see
three
unanimous
votes
that
wasn't
so
hard.
This
remaining
item
ed
and
mark.
Let
me
ask:
do
you,
do
you
need
a
motion
for
us
to
direct
you
to
draft
two
different
sets
of
75
words.
G
Well,
we
would
like
direction
as
to
how
many
ballot
measures
you
want
yeah
to
clarify.
You
already
have
listed
on
your
august
4th
agenda,
two
of
them
a
card
room,
one,
an
ipa.
Today,
you
have
approved
moving
forward
with
a
ballot
measure
that
has
both
planning,
commission
and
redistricting.
B
Could
I
just
suggest
a
motion
if
someone
were
similarly
inclined
that
we
would
ask
mark,
in
his
ample
free
time
to
be
willing
to
draft
one
175
word
statement
that
would
incorporate
the
two
ballot
measures
that
we
voted
on
today
and
one
that
would
incorporate
within
that
the
ipa
measure
as
well.
So
then,
the
council
could
view
them
and
decide
whether
or
not
they're
sufficiently
intelligible
and
understandable
to
voters
to
actually
move
forward.
B
B
Yeah,
it's
just
to
require
to
ask
our
city
attorney
to
draft
two
different
sets
of
ballot
statements,
one
that
would
incorporate
just
the
two
ballot
measures
we
voted
on
today
and
a
second
that
would
incorporate
as
well
the
ipa
ballot
measure
to
give
us
an
opportunity
to
view
whether
or
not
that
is
feasible.
G
C
B
H
I
C
A
C
A
I
C
While
I'm
have
the
microphone,
I
have
fully
absent
from
the
last
vote,
but
did
she
say
I
and
I
just
didn't,
hear
her.
B
P
Well,
this
has
been
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe.
This
has
been
an
interesting
day,
a
very
interesting
day.
I
I
it
it.
It
confounds
my
mind
that
dev
davis
has
the
audacity
and
the
arrogance
to
continue
to
try
to
insert
herself
my
ancestors
had
pesticides
sprayed
on
them
so
that
you
could
be
comfortable
in
that
willow.
Glen
abode
that
you
have.
P
It
has
profited
from
that
all
right,
I'm
addressing
all
you,
because
this
includes
all
of
you,
especially
you,
especially
you
lecardo,
because
you
know
what
the
viciousness
in
this
city's
disregard
for
expl.
We
start
school
in
september,
le
cardo.
For
one
reason
that
is
so
that
the
children
could
work
in
the
fields
that
pesticides
were
sprayed
in
in
order
to
make
profit
from
that,
and
then
they
sent
them
to
school.
And
you
know
what
happened
with
my
mother
and
father.
P
They
were
beaten
for
speaking
spanish,
they
were
beaten
for
being
mexican
and
they
were
taught
to
feel
ashamed
of
being
mexican
in
this
city
and
you're
sitting
comfortably
on
that
wealth.
I
want
my
cut.
I
got
it
coming
district
six
district,
three,
that
borderline
that's
ground.
Central
for
google
has
a
bullseye
on
it.
They
have
a
bullseye
and
you
know
what,
as
an
ancestor,
I'm
gonna
die
in
this
city.
I
have
15
answers,
she's
buried
in
oak
hill
cemetery,
and
you
know
what
you
got
a
lot
of
nerves,
dev
davis.
P
O
Hi
good
evening,
I
want
to
thank
maya
esparza
today
for
calling
out
the
planning
commission,
and
I
also
want
to
say
to
dip
how
dare
you
talk
about
accountability?
O
And
then
you
complain
that
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
it
that
that's
not
a
fix,
you're
kidding
you're
sitting
in
that
seat,
because
your
consistent
put
you
there,
transparency,
don't
complain
your
constituents
don't
come
to
these
meetings.
You
should
be
doing
a
better
job
they're,
not
there,
because
you're
not
transparent
with
your
constituents
like
the
rest
of
them
are
they're
active,
proactive
posting,
because
that's
what
you
should
do,
you're
not
there
because
of
yourself.
O
So
you
need
to
make
sure
that
all
your
community,
you
know
that
goes
for
all
council
members
there
that
don't
post
and
don't
engage
with
your
constituents,
because
when
you
post
that's
engaging
that's
hearing
your
community,
because
when
you
post
there's
comments
and
you
get
to
read,
not
everybody's
aligned
with
you
and
that's
okay,
that's
when
you
have
to
make
a
decision
not
only
for
yourself
or
how
you
believe
and
what
you
think
yeah.
There
is
a
systematic
racism.
I
can
see
it
here
in
this
board.
O
Thank
you,
maya,
esparza,
matana,
carrasco,
raul,
perales
and
sylvia
denas,
because
you
guys
always
have
the
best
interest
of
the
community
and
that's
what
you
need
to
do.
It
might
bother
you
guys
the
rest
of
the
board
members
there,
because
you
don't
live
it
because
you
haven't
been
part
of
it
because
it
doesn't
affect
your
area
but
yeah
you're
there
representing
that
area,
but
also
all
of
us
you're
a
board,
a
body
you're,
not
one
vote.
O
O
B
O
N
Hi,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
meeting
today
to
speak
on
open
forum
subjects.
I
hope
that
the
with
all
the
eviction
moratorium
talk
and
rent
rent
forgiveness
issues
for
owners
and
tenants,
I
I'm
getting
the
feeling
that
this
december
is
going
to
be
crunch
time.
N
That's
going
to
be
the
serious
crunch
time
for
yourselves,
and
I
felt
it
was
important
to
give
you
guys
fair
warning
or
give
yourselves
warning
now
of
what
to
you
know
expect
in
december
and
start
working
now
to
I
suppose,
move
how
to
move
into
next
year
and
and
just
be
prepared
to
protect
and
save
us.
Basically,
you
know
work
with
us,
so
everyone
can
be
safe
and
protected.
Thank
you.
You
know
about
the
vietnamese
language
issue.
N
Thank
you
that
you've
like
made
the
efforts
that
that
you
are
including
vietnamese
translation
at
this
time.
That's
a
great
great
feature.
I
think
we
all
felt
a
little
silly
and
uncomfortable
that
it's
being
said
it
has
to
use
german
on
the
on
the
zoom,
and
you
know
we're
all
feeling.
That's
a
bit
ridiculous.
N
I
hope
we,
but
yet
it's
a
very
serious
subject
and
if
we
can
just
address
it
well,
you
know
together,
I
think,
we're
all
we
can
address
it
and
we
can
ask
for
changes
with
with
that
and
we
can
simply
say
vietnamese
on
the
on
on
the
zoom
app
in
the
future
and
finally,
just
to
thank
yourselves
for
you
know
your
efforts
today.
I
really
feel
like
you're
going
to
have
to
address
the
future
of
planning
and
what
what
how
important
is
that
to
ourselves?
N
I
don't
think
it
should
be
that
important,
but
that
can
be
talked
about
in
the
negotiation
process
in
the
coming
months
and
thank
you
for
being
able
in
these
coming
months.
We
can
talk
about
equity
and
policing
and
just
really
concentrate
on
the
important
things
that
we
set
ourselves
out
to
do.
Thank
you.
M
Okay,
thank
you,
everyone
thank
you
to
magdalena,
esparza
and
arenas,
and
as
well
as
jimenez
and
perales,
for
always
advocating
for
our
community,
especially
the
east
side.
And
then
again
you
know
you
guys
talked
about
equity
and,
again
and
again,
it
seems
like
equity.
Isn't
it's
something
that
we
like
to
sprinkle
around
right?
M
It's
not
something
that
we
are
working
towards,
because
if
we
were
working
towards
it,
then
how
can
we
invest
ourselves
in
putting
the
actual
representation
of
our
communities
out
there
right
supporting
the
latinos
that
are
running
for
office
and
those
latinos
are
grassroots
latinos
right,
not
the
ones
that
have
that
influence
already,
because
their
mom
was
a
council
person
before.
So
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
that
gets
out
there
and
really
support
those
that
are
running
within
our
community
that
have
been
invested
in
our
community.
M
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
ask
for
the
resignation
of
eddie,
the
chief
police
officer,
eddie,
garcia
or
eduardo
garcia,
as
he
has
not
done
much
with
the
controversy
that
we
just
witnessed
right.
M
When
I
saw
that
that
video,
it
could
have
been
me,
it
could
have
been
my
mom,
it
couldn't
be
my
aunt,
it
could
have
been
my
sister,
it
could
have
been
my
friend,
it
might
have
not
been
yours
salmon
cardo,
it
might
have
been
not
eddie's,
but
it
might
have
been
mine
because
you
know
why,
because
I'm
a
woman
of
color,
because
the
people
around
me
are
women
of
color,
because
my
daughter
is
a
woman
of
color
and
I
do
not
want
her
growing
up.
M
Seeing
that
I
do
not
want
her
to
be
fear
of
the
police,
but
that's
all
you
guys
tend
to
do.
You
guys
tend
to
put
that
fear
in
us
and
again
we
want
that
those
two
police
officers
and
whoever
is
in
command
of
them
to
be
fired
immediately
with
nothing
to
give
them,
because
it
is
just
unbelievable,
the
way
that
they
treated
a
woman
of
color
and
they
keep
doing
it
under
you.
Sam
licardo,.
B
Thank
you,
scott
larger.
Q
Okay,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
scott
largent
public
forum-
oh
as
you
call
it
open
forum,
is
our
opportunity
to
address
people
in
power.
The
public
comment
belongs
to
the
public
and
I
find
it
strange
that
san
jose
tries
to
restrict
what
people
can
say
in
public
comment
now.
If
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
carpet
at
city
hall,
I
could
talk
about
that.
If
I
wanted
to
talk
about
you,
sam
licardo,
I
can
do
that.
Q
Q
Okay,
the
community
is
fed
up
you,
people
don't
know
how
to
can
people,
I
mean
I
could
show
you
how
to
do
it.
You
need
to
start
firing
police
officers,
none
of
them
are
disciplined
properly
at
all.
We
know.
Ia
is
just
a
scam.
Please
go
onto
my
youtube
channel
under
scott
largent
and
watch
internal
affairs,
investigation,
interviews
and
watch
how
they're
scamming
the
public,
okay
and
I
think
we're
just
all
fed
up
of
you
sam.
I
think
it's
time
to
kick
rocks.
You
can't
run
the
city
properly
and
just
do
us
a
favor.
B
Thank
you,
mr
largent,
robert
gary.
N
Okay,
robert
gary
I'd
like
to
address
a
looming
problem,
and
that
is
what
will
happen
when
this
rent
moratorium
runs
out
and
an
estimated.
The
new
estimate
now
is
50.
000
people
will
become
unhoused
and
we
have
the
the
addition
of
the
the
people
that
are
currently
on
house
living
wherever
they
may
right
now
and
they're
not
getting
swept.
N
But
I
know
I
know
the
city
well
enough
to
know
that
once
this
pandemic
is
over,
the
sweeps
will
continue-
and
I
think
that's
that's-
a
lack
of
having
the
the
foresight
to
say
that
these
are
people
that
are
suffering
an
unfortunate
condition
and
there
might
be
some
mental
illness.
There
might
be
some
substance
abuse
that
exists
out
there,
but
that
same
sort
of
thing
happens
in
the
house
community
and
we
don't
treat
them
the
same
way.
N
N
It
are
all
subject
to
the
possibility
of
becoming
unhoused
and
until
we
start
really
addressing
this
from
a
big
systemic
problem
and
realize
that
we
have
not
been
building
the
kind
of
housing
that
we
need
to
be
building
that
we're
more
interested
in
making
money
rather
than
trying
to
protect
people
and
allowing
people
to
continue
to
live
under
these
subhuman
conditions
and
we're
not
really
addressing
the
real
problem.
This
will
continue
and
it's
like
I
said
it's
going
to
be
worse
when
this
whole
thing
ends.
I
I
Councilwoman
uranus
was
nice
to
even
consider
it.
It's
also
hilarious
to
me
the
change
of
heart,
you've
all
seemed
to
have
had
on
the
strong
mayor
proposal.
As
an
earlier
caller
pointed
out
today
you
serve
the
people
and
the
residents
of
san
jose.
You
ignored
our
voices
over
two
days
and
a
15-hour
meeting,
and
only
once
you
saw
organization
and
corporate
opposition
did
you
suddenly
decide.
This
was
a
rushed
process.
It's
sad!
I
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
d4
and
d6
election
and
to
all
residents
listening,
don't
think
it
doesn't
impact
you
just
because
you
don't
live
in
the
district,
it
does
impact
you
and
it
does
matter.
If
you
want
change
for
the
city
council,
please
pay
attention
to
these
elections
happening
this
november.
Thank
you.
O
Hi
I
want
to
talk
about
the
pandemic.
That's
going
on
right
now,
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
with
no
food,
there's
a
lot
of
seniors
that
are
not
working
and
have
no
food.
O
I
want
to
see
something
done,
there's
a
lot
of
people
with
covet
19
who
are
not
getting
any
assistance
who
have
pets
that
they
need
to
walk
and
there's
no
services
for
these
people,
I'm
in
the
grounds
every
day
and
it's
heartbreaking
to
see
how
many
residents,
in
all
of
your
guys,
districts
right
now,
are
going
through
a
hunger
and
a
lot
of
these
are
our
seniors.
Who
don't
know
what
to
do?
We
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
reaching
out
to
them.
We
need
to
do
something
about
the
rent.
O
A
lot
of
our
families
are
desperate,
I'm
in
the
grounds-
and
I
can
tell
you
this-
there's
a
lot
of
back
pain,
rent
and
a
lot
of
these
people
are
getting
desperate
and
I
do
not
want
them
to
lose
hope
and
do
something
stupid,
because
you
guys
are
not
figuring
out
what
to
do.
You're
busy
arguing
about
other
stuff,
then
what
we're
really
living
in
this
time
right
now
and
then
again,
I'm
gonna
bring
the
systematic
racism
that
our
world
sees.
What
would
we
have?
O
We
have
been
complaining
every
day
about
this
for
so
many
decades
about
how
our
black
and
brown
have
been
subjected
by
this
by
police
for
decades
and
decades,
and
we
haven't
even
fired
this
guy.
Who
was
recording,
there's
no
questions,
there's
nothing
that
should
be
done.
He
was
recorded
by
a
dash
driver.
O
What
more
evidence
do
we
need?
Do
you
guys
want
what
happened
in
portland
to
happen
here?
Why
did
the
police
kick
her
like
with
so
much
hate
and
racism,
and
it
breaks
my
heart
because
her
kids
are
watching
and
I
don't
know
how
you
would
feel
if
your
kids
are
watching
a
cop?
Kick
you
and
drag
you.
There
shouldn't
be
a
desk
job.
The
only
desktop
he
should
have
is
in
prison
for
assaulting
a
mother
in
front
of
her
children
and
we're
not
going
to
stop
until
something
is
done.
D
Thanks
so
next
year,
the
or
what
you
guys
call
the
chicano
5
you're
going
to
have
one
more
vote.
We
know
that
d4
or
g6,
you
know
they
they
won't
be
won,
and
the
residents
here
continue
to
call
in
and
talk
about
the
november
vote
for
a
reason
on
the
number
of
years.
The
next
mayor,
I
think
we
should
go
with
two,
so
we
actually
get
to
the
next
presidential
cycle
and
I'd
love
to
see
raul
do
those
two
years.