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From YouTube: OCT 14, 2020 | Planning Commission
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City of San José, California
Planning Commission meeting of October 14, 2020.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
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A
My
name
is
mariel
caballero
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
planning
commission,
welcome
to
the
planning
commission
meeting.
This
meeting
is
being
held
via
zoom
conference
call
due
to
the
covet
19
crisis.
Members
of
the
public
may
participate
by
following
the
instructions
listed
on
the
agenda.
You
may
also
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may
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listen
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If
you
would
like
to
provide
public
comment,
you
have
two
methods
to
identify
to
provide
public
comment.
A
All
members
of
the
public
will
remain
on
mute
until
the
individual
identifies
they
would
like
to
speak
and
you
are
unmuted
following
roll
call.
During
summary
of
hearing
procedures,
we
will
review
how
the
public
may
provide
comment
during
today's
session
as
a
reminder
to
our
planning.
Commissioners,
please
keep
yourself
on
mute
unless
you're
you've
been
identified
to
speak.
That
way,
we
can
limit
the
background
noise
that
we
get
during
the
meeting.
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
do
a
roll
call
of
our
commissioner,
so
mariel
cabrero
is
here
rolando.
B
B
A
All
right,
the
summary
the
procedure
for
this
hearing
is
as
follows.
After
the
staff
report,
applicants
and
appellants
may
make
a
five-minute
presentation.
City
staff
will
call
out
the
names
of
the
public
who
identify
the
items
they
want
to
speak
on.
You
may
identify
yourself
by
raising
the
hand
feature
in
zoom
or
clicking
star
nine
on
your
phone.
A
You
may
also
call
408
535-3505
again,
that's
408,
535
or
email
planning,
support
staff
at
san
jose
ca.gov
and
identify
your
name
phone
number
and
what
items
you
would
like
to
take
on,
as
your
name
is
called
city
staff
will
unmute
you
to
speak
after.
We
confirm
that
your
audio
is
working.
Your
allotted
time
will
begin.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
Speakers
using
a
translator
will
have
four
minutes
after
public
testimony.
The
applicant
and
appellant
will
make
closing
remarks
for
an
additional
five
minutes.
Each
planning
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
speakers.
A
Response
to
commissioner's
questions
will
not
reduce
the
speaker's
time
allowance
staff
will
unmute
the
speaker
to
respond
to
the
commissioner.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
planning
commission
will
take
action
on
the
item.
The
planning
commission
may
request
staff
to
respond
to
public
testimony,
ask
staff
questions
or
discuss
the
item.
If
you
challenge
these
milanius
decisions
in
court,
you
may
be
limited
to
raising
only
those
issues
you
or
someone
else
raised
at
this
public
hearing
or
written
correspondence
delivered
to
the
city
at
or
prior
to
the
public
hearing.
A
The
planning
commission's
actions
on
rezonings,
pre-zonings
and
general
plan
amendments
and
code
amendments
is
only
advisory
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
public
hearings
on
these
items.
Section
20.120.400
of
the
municipal
code
provides
the
procedures
for
a
legal
protest
to
the
city
council
on
rezonings
and
pre-zonings.
The
planning
commission's
action
on
conditional
use
permits
is
appealable
to
the
city
council
council,
in
accordance
with
20.100.220
of
the
municipal
court.
A
So
I
call
this
meeting
to
order
of
the
planning
commission.
We
have
a
quorum
number
item
number
two
is
we
have
public
comment
and
as
a
reminder
to
both
commissioners
and
to
the
public?
The
planning
commission
cannot
take
action
on
any
items
that
are
brought
forward
related
to
public
comment
and
can
only
ask
clarifying
questions
of
staff
so
staff.
Do
we
have
any
speakers
for
public
comment.
D
It's.
How
long
did
it
take
for
the
city
to
actually
let
people
have
have
a
beer
cans
or
cats
outside
your
restaurant
and
bars?
You
guys
should
have
been
doing
cafe
alfresco
a
long
time
ago,
but
man
it
took
forever
to
allow
people
to
actually
do
that
for
their
business
to
help
generate
some
tax
revenue
that
we're
going
to
need.
That's
for
the
downtown!
Take
a
look
at
it.
Look
at
it!
It's
terrible.
I
mean
it's
embarrassing.
D
Everybody
who's
involved
in
the
city
government.
For
for
that
downtown,
it's
it's
a
travesty
to
joke.
I
know
what
I
mean
you're,
going
to
try
to
build
something
at
st
james
park
about
all
the
homeless
gums
who
are
defecating
everywhere.
This
I
gotta
see
he
doesn't
even
have
the
urban
villages
are
a
joke
they're
too
small
they're,
they're,
gonna,
they're
gonna
farm
out,
where
they
have
good
enough
hotels,
they're
gonna
come
to
this
town
who
wants
to
come
to
san
jose?
I
I
wouldn't
I
live
here.
I
don't
yeah.
D
D
But
you
have
to
fix
what
you
have
already
trying
to
build
more
reason:
it's
not
going
to
do
anything,
there's
so
many
vacant
properties
already
right
now,
disgusting.
I
don't
know
what
you
guys
are
doing,
but
you
don't
have
to
do
something
better
than
that.
What's
the
big
the
business,
the
big
rezoning
is
what
trying
to
to
cram
more
homes
and
into
the
end
of
the
suburbs.
By
tearing
them
down
you
guys,
you
guys,
you
guys
need
to
get
a
new
direction.
That
sounds
pretty.
C
C
C
C
E
Evening,
planning,
commissioners
and
chair,
my
name
is
johnny
kleinhouse,
I'm
the
environmental
advocate
for
santa
clara
valley,
audubon
society.
Our
group
protects
and
educates
people
about
birds
and
their
habitats
in
the
open
space,
but
also
in
urban
areas,
and
we
really
are
engaged
in
a
lot
of
urban
ecology
issues.
Some
of
those
have
to
deal
with
urban
development,
and
so
I
have
spoken
to
you
briefly
before
about
the
downtown
design
guidelines
that
include
sections
on
bird,
safe
design
and
vegetation.
E
E
The
city
has
developed
a
policy
to
protect
corridors,
it's
in
the
general
plan
and
there
is
a
specific
riparian
corridor
policy,
but
there
are
some
projects
moving
ahead
in
the
city
that
are
disrespecting
those
very
important
protections
that
are
provided
for
the
creeks
and
the
areas
around
them
and
there
and
all
the
animals
that
use
them
and
even
the
trails
along
them.
So
I
will
be
coming
back
to
you
and
potentially
sending
him
some
educational
materials,
and
I
hope
this
will
interest
you
and
that
you
will
pay
attention.
So
thank
you.
B
F
For
considering
my
comments,
it's
now
six
weeks
from
when
we
asked
the
planning
department
to
explain
why
the
plane
reading
of
the
state's
high
quality
transit
card
or
regulation
did
not
apply
to
our
project.
The
state
had
proposed
this
regulation
for
many
years
before
it
went
into
effect
on
january
2019..
F
The
city
should
have
a
written
policy
as
to
how
this
regulation
interacts
with
the
city's
transportation
policy
ct-1.
We
have
not
been
provided
a
copy
of
such
written
policy.
Southern
california
has
an
extensive
policy
related
to
high
quality,
transit
or
proximity
which
we
copied
in
our
letters
of
the
city.
F
Interestingly,
a
month
after
the
transportation
policy
went
into
effect,
the
city
passed
the
density,
bonus
ordinance
and
stated
if
a
single
residence
occupancy
unit
was
within
half
a
mile
of
a
high
quality
transit
corridor,
no
parking
space
would
be
required
for
that
unit,
whereas
if
the
single
residence
occupancy
unit
was
outside
the
half
mile
radius,
a
quarter
of
a
parking
space
would
be
required
per
that
unit.
In
the
density
bonus
ordinance,
the
city
has
a
written
policy
relating
high
quality,
transit
proximity
and
parking.
F
There
should
be
one
related
to
high
quality
transit
corridor
and
the
transportation
policy
overall
planning's
comments
after
my
two-minute
presentation
last
time
stated
that
there
are
environmental
issues
with
our
project
and
I'm
baffled
by
that
as
referenced
and
copied
to
you
to
you.
Several
state
agencies
have
cleared
our
site
for
residential
development.
F
A
A
G
A
B
Curious
hello:
this
is
rhonda
bus,
the
project
planner
on
this
on
this
file.
Thank
you
very
much
hearing
officer
and
commission
for
this
project.
We
have
been
as
staff
asked,
to
go
back
and
do
more
research,
so
because
of
this,
we
are
recommending
that
that
the
project
be
dropped
and
re-noticed
at
a
later
date.
A
B
A
A
Thank
you
rhonda
and
thank
you
danielle,
so
item
3b
is
also
a
deferral
for
pdc
18-021
and
pb
18-016,
which
is
a
plan
development,
zoning
from
the
general
commercial
to
commercial,
pedestrian
and
r2
family
resident
zoning
districts
to
a
commercial
pedestrian
plan
development.
Zoning
district
for
a
planned
development
permit-
and
it
looks
like
this-
is
the
request
from
staff
is
to
be
dropped
and
re-noticed
for
the
october
28th
planning
commission
meeting,
which
is
our
next
meeting.
Do
we
have
a
motion.
A
B
C
Asha
sorry,
I
had
my
phone
on
you.
This
is
cassandra
vandersweep,
representing
myra
blanca,
the
project
manager.
For
this
case,
we
requested
to
defer
and
re-notice
this
to
the
october
28
planning
commission
to
provide
staff
with
more
time
to
review
the
to
review
and
prepare
the
staff
report
in
terms
of
the
the.
C
C
A
A
A
B
A
G
E
G
G
G
So
the
previous
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy,
as
I
said,
was
adopted
as
basically
the
envision
san
jose
2040
general
plan.
It
was
an
attachment,
but
essentially
it
was
that
it
is
the
document
and
the
general
plan
emissions
and
that
analysis
were
based
on
ab32,
which
only
took
us
to
2020..
We
are
now
in
2020
those
emissions
reductions
are
no
longer
valid,
and
so
therefore
it
needed
to
be
updated
and
and
revised.
G
So
this
document,
just
as
a
background
provided
sql
streamlining
for
development
projects
that
were
found
to
be
consistent
with
the
land,
use,
transportation,
diagram
and
the
policies
in
the
general
plan.
So
projects
going
through
the
environmental
review
process
in
order
to
analyze
ghg
emissions
that
they
are
consistent,
they
are
considered
to
be
consistent
with
the
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy
in
most
cases,
this
involved
this
requires,
then
this
actually
allows
them
not
to
have
to
do
additional
analysis
in
order
to
demonstrate
conformance.
G
So,
in
the
interim
projects
that
are
coming
before
you
and
probably
seen
in
the
past
several
months,
projects
with
initial
studies
and
eirs
requiring
greenhouse
gas
emissions
analysis
have
done
an
interim
approach.
This
interim
approach
is
a
quantitative
analysis,
based
on
what
is
referred
to
as
the
substantial
progress
efficiency
threshold
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
consistent
with
sb32.
G
This
is
a
very
you
know,
much
a
calculation
based
on
the
amount
of
service
population,
which
is
the
number
of
employees
and
the
number
of
residents
and
taking
the
emissions
and
dividing
it.
This
is
a
useful
way
to
analyze
ghg
emissions,
but
is
not
the
best
way
because
it
does
not
take
into
account
the
broader
cumulative
ghg
emissions
of
the
city
and
the
region,
and
that
the
best
approach
to
do
that
is
through
a
larger
plan
policy
and
and
strategy
which
this
ghg
reduction
strategy
seeks
to
do.
G
It
also
is
easier
for
projects
to
come
through
that,
maybe
would
be
just
use
the
example,
for
example,
hotel
which
may
have
a
low
service
population,
because
the
number
of
employees
in
the
hotel
are
less
yet
if
that
hotel
is
within
an
area
with
low
vmt
or
next
to
a
transit
station
would
actually
have
low
ghg.
So
so
the
the
interim
approach
can
penalize
certain
types
of
projects
requiring
additional
mitigation
measures.
G
Most
downtown
projects,
I
will
say,
are
covered
by
the
updated
greenhouse
gas
emissions
analysis
in
the
2018
downtown
strategy,
2040
eir,
so
we've
already
done
a
greenhouse
gas
emissions
analysis
for
the
for
the
maximum
development.
That's
anticipated
in
that
eir.
Therefore,
this
those
projects
already
have
sql
clearance
for
ghg
emissions.
In
most
cases,.
G
So
what
is
the
relationship
to
the
general
plan
and
climate
smart
san
jose?
So
the
20-30
g
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy
is
consistent
with
the
major
strategies
and
policies
in
the
2040
general
plan.
In
fact,
it
builds
upon
those
by
essentially
using
those
plan,
those
policies
as
a
way
to
demonstrate
greenhouse
gas
reduction.
G
G
Emissions
reduction
measures
in
the
2030
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy
are
consistent
with
climate
smart,
san
jose.
However,
it
is
important
to
note
that
climate,
smart
san
jose,
is
the
visionary
document.
It
is
not
a
long-term
planning
tool.
The
same
way
that
envision
san
jose
2040
general
plan
is
or
what
this
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy
will
be
again.
I
want
to
mention.
In
addition,
this
focus
is
this:
for
is,
for
project
level,
clearance
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
for
environmental
review.
G
Now,
how?
How
is
this
implemented?
That's
a
key
question.
Many
applicants
and
others
will
be
asking
it's
been
implemented
through
the
preparation
of
a
compliance
checklist
for
projects.
Now
this
project
compliance
checklist
will
be
included
in
the
initial
studies
and
eirs
for
project
seek
and
environmental
clearance
and
the
greenhouse
gas
section,
and
this
projects
will
come
in
project
applicants
will
come
in
and
as
part
of
their
sql
analysis,
we
have
to
provide
evidence
in
order
to
demonstrate
compliance.
G
This
includes
finding
a
consistency
with
the
relevant
general
plan
policies,
including
including
relevant
tbm
policies
and
the
land
use
and
transportation
diagram.
This
is
the
same
as
what
was
required
of
the
previous
2020
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy.
It
also
requires
findings
of
consistency
with
my
with
the
sub
the
seven
strategies,
and
this
is
included
in
the
the
compliance
checklist.
H
H
I'm
the
2030
ghgrs
project
manager
at
aecom
and
I'm
going
to
spend
a
few
minutes
providing
a
little
further
detail
on
the
technical
aspects
of
the
ghgrs
as
a
warning
to
everyone,
I'm
currently
on
paternity
leave
and
pretty
sleep
deprived.
So
if
I
lose,
my
train
of
thought
just
bear
with
me.
Thank
you
as
a
quick
orientation
to
the
2030
plan.
H
H
The
remaining
emissions
come
from
solid
waste
disposal
and
treatment,
water
and
wastewater
treatments
and
and
finally
fugitive
emissions
associated
with
natural
gas
distribution
losses.
Next
slide.
Please-
and
this
slide
is
a
bit
small,
but
for
some
additional
context
it
shows
the
sub
sources
of
emissions
within
the
broader
categories.
H
So,
as
shown
in
the
second
line
from
the
top
that
first
light,
green
bar
emissions
from
on-road
vehicles
is
the
largest
source
of
emissions
in
the
city.
The
next
largest
sources
are
from
residential
energy
and
commercial
energy,
which
are
the
the
first
and
second
light
loop.
Excuse
me,
light
blue
bars.
H
So
again,
this
just
serves
to
provide
some
additional
insight
into
what
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategies
would
be
most
impactful
in
san
jose
next
slide
and
then
to
put
the
previous
2017
inventory
slides
into
context.
Oops.
Sorry,
that's
supposed
to
be
a
hidden
slide.
Let's
go
to
the
next
one.
Okay,
a
little
more
context
than
we
have
time
for
this
slide
shows
the
city's
emissions
trends
since
the
city's
first
greenhouse
gas
inventory
in
2008,
along
with
the
previous
2014
inventory.
H
So
these
bar
chart
pairs
show
total
emissions
in
the
left.
Blue
bars
expressed
as
million
metric
tons
of
co2e,
while
the
right
green
bars
normalize
those
results
into
an
emissions
per
service,
population,
intensity
or
efficiency
value,
and
that's
where
service
population
is
defined
as
local
residents,
plus
local
residents
plus
employees.
H
So,
as
shown,
the
city's
total
emissions
and
emissions
per
service
population
have
both
been
decreasing
since
2008,
which
is
a
good
sign.
You
can
see
instances
where
emissions
per
service
population
are
decreasing,
but
total
emissions
are
still
increasing.
So,
thankfully,
that's
not
the
situation
in
san
jose.
Both
emissions
into
indicators
are
on
a
downward
trend.
H
H
The
ghgrs
then
identifies
seven
strategies
that,
when
implemented,
can
provide
the
greenhouse
gas
reductions
necessary
to
achieve
the
city's
2030
target,
so
the
table
shown
here
is
from
the
plan
and
it
lists
the
strategies
in
the
first
column,
estimates
of
their
greenhouse
gas
reduction
potential
in
the
second
column
and
then
demonstrates
the
strategy's
origins
in
the
third
column
and
as
shown,
these
strategies
come
from
exist.
The
city's
existing
original
green
vision
goals,
the
climate,
smart,
san
jose
plan
from
existing
general
plan
goals,
council
resolutions
and,
in
one
instance,
a
state
greenhouse
gas
policy.
H
H
On
the
previous
slide,
I
mentioned,
the
city
needs
approximately
800
000
metric
tons
of
reductions
to
achieve
the
2030
target.
This
set
of
strategies
have
been
estimated
to
provide
approximately
1.2
million
metric
tons,
co2e
reductions,
so
that
provides
a
comfortable
buffer
for
target
achievement.
Should
any
of
these
strategies
fall
short
of
their
estimated
implementation
over
the
next
10
years,
and
as
shown,
the
single
largest
source
of
reductions
is
likely
to
come
from
continued
implementation
of
san
jose
clean
energy
as
it
moves
towards
providing
100
carbon
free
energy
as
its
baseline.
H
So
chapter
three
of
the
plan
provides
an
implementation
and
monitoring
framework
to
guide
the
city
in
plan
implementation
and
tracking
to
ensure
that
the
estimated
greenhouse
gas
reductions
are
occurring
as
planned
attachment.
A
of
the
plan
provides
a
development
compliance
checklist
that
can
be
used
with
new
development
projects
that
are
subject
to
sql
requirements.
H
So
these
projects
can
use
the
checklist
to
demonstrate
and
document
consistency
with
the
2030
ghgrs
in
order
to
receive
streamlined
environmental
review.
As
related
to
the
proposed
project's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
impact,
all
applicable
projects
would
complete
sections
a
and
b
of
the
checklist,
and
some
may
optionally,
complete
section
c,
a
section.
A
allows
the
project
to
demonstrate
consistency
with
the
envisioned
san
jose
land
use
and
circulation
diagram
and
other
relevant
general
plan
policies.
H
G
Thank
you
josh,
so
that
I
also
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention.
There
were
two
letters
that
we
received
on
the
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy.
One
was
from
the
bay
area,
air
quality
management
district
received
today
and
another
letter
from
valley
water.
Both
of
those
letters
were
provided
to
you
in
your
packet.
None
of
these
letters
raise
substantive
issues.
G
Valley,
water
is
requesting
some.
You
know
basic,
basically
text
edits
and
also
requesting
to
see
if
there
could
be
some
additional
measures
for
water
conservation
and
none
of
these
rise
to
levels
of
issues
that
would
actually
end
up
requiring
being
requirements
that
would
cause
meaningful
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategies.
The
bay
air
quality
management
district
is,
we
are
going
to
be
providing
some
additional
data
that
they
requested
and
also
they
had
some
additional
questions
about
data
centers.
Since
data
centers
are
one
of
many
land
uses
that
are
covered.
G
G
With
this,
I
want
to
recommend
to
what
that
planning
commission
to
recommend
to
city
council
that
they
adopt
a
resolution
adopting
the
endeavor
to
envision
san
jose
2040
general
plan,
eir
and
supplemental
eir,
and
adopt
a
resolution
approving
the
2030
ght
reduction
strategy
in
general
plan
text.
Amendment
and
I
am
available
and
josh
is
available.
If
you
have
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
C
C
B
D
Okay,
so
you
want
to
get
rid
of
greenhouse
gases,
so
we're
going
to
run
everything
on
electricity
here.
I
don't
see
that
happening,
it
doesn't
work.
I
mean
the
power
goes
out
if
it
gets
a
little
if
it
gets
a
little
bit
hot
outside
and
you're
going
to
try
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases
that
you
want
to
build
all
these
coffin
condos
everywhere.
You,
you
think,
there's
going
to
be
this
high-speed
rail
that
has
completely
died.
D
It's
dead
and
this
google
village
are
you
really
holding
out
for
them
to
do
a
good
job
to
build
a
village
near
a
transit
center?
I
mean
you're
going
to
have
to
rethink
the
retail
the
housing
offices
everything
people
are
working
from
home.
People
aren't
going
back
to
work,
probably
ever
they're
saying
over
half
the
tech
workers
are
going
to
be
working
from
home,
which
means
they're,
gonna,
probably
be
moving
elsewhere,
which
means
they're,
probably
more
available
housing
anyway.
I
don't
see
that
I
don't.
I
don't
see
how
getting
I
mean.
D
The
greenhouse
gassing
is
a
complete
fallacy
made
up
by
al
gore.
Al
gore
was
going
to
use
enron.
Remember
that
company
that
went
out
of
business
bankrupt
he
was
going
to
trade,
the
carbon
credits
with
ken
lay
at
enron.
It's
a
money
maker
scheme,
they're
trying
to
make
money
out
of
thin
air
and
they're
doing
a
great
job
by
by
by
brainwashing
people
like
you
who
think
that
all
this
stuff
is
real.
It
is
not
greenhouse
gases.
How
about
fix
the
force?
How
about
how
about
take
care
of
the
force?
We
don't?
D
We
don't
have
months
and
months
and
months
of
completely
polluted
air.
I
mean
talk
about
greenhouse
gases.
You
have
to
manage
the
forest
and
the
surrounding
areas
for
fire
people
are
crazy.
You
people
are
crazy
you
this.
This
whole
thing
is
a
joke.
It's
a
joke
and
the
planning
commission.
You
guys
need
to
rethink
about
what
san
jose
is
going
to
be,
because
in
post
covid
it's
going
to
be
completely.
I
Hi
pete
beekman
is
my
name.
I
hope
you
can
have
the
patience
for
my
inexperience,
ideas
and
opinions
for
the
next
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
You
know
I
it's
my
personal
feeling
that
you
know
san
jose
has
tried
really
hard
to
address
the
issue
of
natural
gas
for
the
past
few
years,
if
not
several
years,
we
are
now
very
much
prepared
how
to
address
the
future
of
fracking
in
the
20
in
the
2020s.
I
We
are
not
compromised
by
fracking
and
there's
difficult
decisions.
Fracking
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
in
the
next
10
years.
San
jose
is
in
a
really
good
position
to
talk
about
natural
gas
and
that's
awesome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this
report.
I
noticed
that.
Did
I
see
that
renewables
actually
have
more
weight
and
carry
and
more
output
than
than
carbon
neutral
ideas,
which
is
nuclear.
Basically,
if
that
is
the
case,
thank
you.
That's
so
important
to
understand.
I
For
me,
the
next
year,
east
bay,
local
community
energy,
is
just
starting
to
go
through
their
process
of
how
to
you
know,
procure
energy
for
next
year
and
they're,
really
in
a
battle
to
the
with
the
public
to
define
the
future
of
nuclear.
You
seem
like
you're
using
less
nuclear
and
that's
important.
I
We
have
to
really
continue
that
effort
to
slowly
dwindle
down
the
reliance
of
nuclear,
and
we
we
put
the
the
pieces
in
play
to
do
that
now
we
got
to
work
on
that
and
act
on
that,
and
that
takes
effort
and
understanding,
and
I'm
not
that
good
at
that.
But
at
least
I
can
you
know,
offer
those
ideas
at
this
time
yeah
I
know
and
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
new.
I
C
C
C
A
A
A
Second,
I
heard
the
second
by
commissioner
olivario.
I
don't
know
who
made
the
first
sorry
I
couldn't
see
everyone's
faces.
Okay,
wonderful!
So
a
motion
by
commissioner
bonilla,
a
second
bike
by
commissioner
olivario.
Do
we
have
any
discussion
on
this
item,
but
either
of
the
motion
makers
like
to
speak
to
their
motion.
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
Hi
to
to
speak
to
your
agenda
of
september
and
kind
of
just,
I
need
I
needed
to
also
include
that
you
know
san
jose
needs
to
make
its
own
decisions
in
the
next
few
months
about
their
own
nuclear
allotment
for
next
year
in
terms
of
energy,
and
I
hope
we
can
just
be
considering
what
that
can
be
and
how
to
limit
that
as
much
as
possible
as
an
entire
community
effort
to
do
that.
Thanks
thanks
for
your
time
tonight,.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
should
go
on
100
nuclear.
I
really
do
it's
the
only
way
to
have
cheap,
affordable
power.
Yeah
there's
a
lot
of
problems
with
it,
but
in
the
end
you
know
I
thought
the
power
went
out
not
too
long
ago
on
a
hot
day,
because
the
micro
grid,
the
solar
panel
micro
grid,
didn't
work.
Now
people
want
to
have
their
own
solar
panels
on
their
house.
D
You
know
they
can't
and
they
by
the
way
they
look
ungodly.
A
lot
of
my
neighbors
have
them
and
I
have
to
look
at
it.
It
looks
like
crap,
but
you
know
what
are
you
gonna
do?
I
can't
tell
what
my
neighbor
what
to
do,
but
if
people
want
to
create
their
own
power
with
geothermal
or
solar
at
their
own
home,
that's
great,
but
you
know
I
you're
not
going
to
go
on
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
power
a
city
on
renewable
energy.
It's
completely
astonished.
C
D
It
in
europe
it
didn't
work,
they
thought
they
were
going
to
get
energy
from
the
ocean
and
all
these
kind
of
crazy
things
and
they've
got
the
solar
thing.
Flopped.
I
lived
in
spain
for
like
eight
years,
solar
completely
flopped
their
complete
waste
of
money,
everybody
hates
the
windmills
because
they
chop
up
birds
and
make
a
ton
of
noise.
Excuse
me,
you
know
the
look.
Look
at
the
the
windmills
we
have
on
altamonte
pass.
Half
of
them
are
tipped
over,
not
working,
they're
ugly,
it's
blight,
everybody
hates
it
like.
D
I
said
chops
up,
birds,
it's
noisy!
You
can
hear
those
windows
throw
from
like
60
70
miles
away.
I
think
nuclear
energy
is
is,
is
the
wave
of
the
future?
That's
why
france
has.
They
have
clean
nuclear
power
there.
I
also
believe
in
clean
burning
coal.
It's
a
fallacy
thing
yeah!
It's
a
fallacy
to
think
that
you're
gonna
run
a
city
on
microgrids
powered
by
solar.
It's
a
fallacy!
D
A
And
this
is
a
reminder
to
our
public
commenters
that
items
that
is
for
items
that
we're
discussing
at
the
moment
and
that
the
previous
items
and,
if
you've
spoken
before
we,
we
won't
be
allowing
that
in
the
future.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
for
item
number
11
b,
which
is
review
and
approve
action
minutes
from
9
23,
so
moved?
B
A
A
B
B
A
A
B
We
have
remarks
from
council
member
humane
who
is
our
liaison
and
then
the
housing
policy
we
take
a
break
and
then
our
community
outreach
and
engagement,
after
which
we
do
the
opportunity
zones
and
then
brown
out
our
updates
by
our
city
attorney.
And
then
we
take
public
comments
and
gentlemen
at
3
pm.
A
B
B
A
Commissioner
oliverio
hi
commissioner
torrance
hi
and
comm,
and
I
am
also
an
I
and
that
motion
passes.
We
now
have
our
2020
schedule
and
our
2021
schedule.
So
with
that
our
meeting
is
adjourned
and
for
our
retreat.
It
is
happening
during
lunch
time
and
from
12
to
3
p.m.
So
I
would
encourage
all
of
us
to
you
know,
bring
our
brown
bag
lunches
to
us
if
you
feel
comfortable
to
do
so,
because
we
don't
want
anyone
getting
cranky
because
they're
hungry,
I
will
probably
be
eating.