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Description
City of San José, California
Planning Commission Special Meeting - Annual Retreat meeting of October 22, 2021.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=899495&GUID=F7DE0248-7C42-4303-A78F-587C89B92A68
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A
A
A
Yes,
we
do.
We
do.
Thank
you,
okay
and
I
apologize
for
the
camera.
I
didn't
realize
how
it's
not
clear
meetings
in
the
era
of
zoom
all
right
good
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name,
is
rolando
bonilla.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
san
jose
planning
commission.
Welcome
to
the
planning
commission
study
session
meeting.
This
meeting
is
being
held
via
zoom
conference,
called
due
to
the
cobin
19
crisis.
A
Members
of
the
public
may
participate
by
following
the
instructions
listed
on
the
agenda.
You
may
also
view
and
listen
to
the
meeting
on
live
stream,
cable,
tv,
granicus
and
youtube
following
roll
call.
During
today's
summary
of
hearing
procedure,
we
will
review
how
the
public
may
provide
comment
during
today's
session.
A
Young
here
great,
let
the
record
reflect
that
as
of
right
now,
caballero
montenegro
are
not
present
present.
Sorry,
thank
you,
commissioner
olivario
is
here.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
commissioners
caballero
and
are
not
here
at
the
moment
summary
of
hearing
procedures.
The
procedure
for
this
hearing
is
as
follows:
city
staff
will
call
out
names
of
the
public
who
identified
they
want
to
speak.
A
You
may
identify
yourself
by
the
raised
hand,
feature
on
zoom
click,
star
9
on
your
phone
or
you
may
call
408,
535,
3505
or
email
planning,
support
staff
at
san
jose
ca.gov
and
identify
your
name
phone
number
and
what
items
you
would
like
to
speak
on,
as
your
name
is
called
city
staff
will
unmute
you
to
speak
after
we
confirm
your
audio
is
working.
Your
allotted
time
will
begin.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
Speakers
using
a
translator
will
have
four
minutes
planning.
A
Commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
speakers
response
to
commissioner
questions
will
not
reduce
the
speaker's
time
clowns
staff
will
unmute
the
speaker
to
respond
to
the
commissioner.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
planning
commission
will
take
action
on
the
item.
The
planning
commission
may
request
staff
to
respond
to
the
public
testimony.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
My
name
is
robert
manford,
I'm
deputy
director
for
planning.
We
have
a
very
exciting
afternoon
with
insightful
presentation
from
staff
from
various
social
departments
and
their
development
services.
So
I
will
start
off
by
asking
ms
nancy
client
from
office
of
economic
development
to
introduce
herself
and
her
staff.
C
C
I
I
am
the
director
and
we
have
several
sections,
and
I
don't
know
that
everybody
on
the
planning
commission
has
been
introduced
to
the
different
divisions
and
would
really
like
to
and
share
that
with
you
and
hopefully
be
in
contact
with
you
on
the
items
of
interest
to
you
over
time
and
nathan.
Donato
weinstein,
who
at
the
moment,
is
working
at
the
flea
market
for
the
vendors
who
will
be
back
at
his
his
desk
in
time
to
present
with
me
for
our
item.
But
thank
you
very,
very
much
for
including
us
today.
B
D
Hi,
my
name
is
vera
todorov
and
I'm
a
senior
deputy
city
attorney.
I
have
been
with
this
city
for
19
years.
This
will
be
my
gosh
35th
year.
I
think
in
municipal
law.
I
have
worked
for
two
other
cities,
the
city
of
salinas
and
the
city
of
oceanside
prior
to
this,
and
worked
for
other
government
agencies
before
that.
But
it's
definite
it's
about
35
years
working
with
cities
and
working
with
planning
commissions
working
with
housing
issues,
labor
and
employment
law,
you
name
it
and
and
so,
but
primarily
for
san
jose.
D
It
has
been
land
use
and
development
for
that
19
years
and
I've
represented
the
planning
commission
now
for
I'm
trying
to
think
of
how
long
it's
been
at
least
seven
or
eight
years
now
and
and
full
time
and
and
used
to
trade
off
with
another
person
before
that.
So
I
really
appreciate
working
with
the
new
11
member
planning.
D
Commission,
oh
my
goodness,
that's
a
lot
of
people
and
a
lot
of
different
thoughts
and
opinions
which
is
wonderful
and
so,
and
I
I
will
tell
you
more
to
answer
the
questions
that
you
gave
us
at
previous
meetings
about
what
you
wanted
to
discuss
at
this
retreat
and
so
we'll
deal
with
that
with
items
numbers
three
and
four.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
Afternoon,
everyone
I'm
sylvia
dill,
like
robert
mentioned,
I'm
one
of
the
planning
division
managers.
I've
been
with
the
city's
planning
division
for
about
15
years.
I
started
off
doing
specific
planning
and
then
worked
my
way
around
to
public
information
in
the
permit
center,
then
working
on
ordinance
and
policy
amendments
and
then
more
recently,
for
a
few
years
now,
I'm
working
on
development
review.
So
much
of
the
entitlement
development
permits
use
permits
that
go
before
your
team
comes
from
one
of
my
one
of
the
planning
divisions,
development,
review
teams.
Thank
you.
B
F
E
E
I
have
a
master's
degree
from
cornell
university
in
historic
preservation
planning
and
I
was
the
historic
preservation
program
manager
for
the
county
of
santa
clara
for
10
years,
and
I
used
to
work
with
commissioner
ornales
a
long
time
ago
and
yeah
I've
been
with
the
city
almost
two
years
in
january
and
that's
my
story.
Nice
to
meet
you
hi,
dana
hi,
sylvia.
B
Thank
you
dana,
and
I
must
say
we
also
have
one
acting
division
manager.
Her
name
is
martina
davis,
who
is
working
on
michael's
team.
She
may
not
have
had
the
chance
to
join
us
because
she
may
be
busy
doing
something
else,
but
the
last,
but
not
the
least,
is
mr
chris
burton
who
is
our
director.
The
director
of
planning,
building
and
code
enforcement
is
here
with
us
and
we'll
share
a
few
remarks.
G
Thanks
robert
good
afternoon,
everybody
it's
great
to
get
the
opportunity
to
spend
some
time
together.
As
robert
said,
my
name
is
chris
burton.
I
was
well
it's
not
that
recent
anymore,
but
it's
been
about
four
months.
Almost
to
the
day,
I
was
appointed
as
director
of
planning,
building
and
code
enforcement
by
former
city
manager,
dave
sykes
and
the
city
council,
so
so
yeah.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
get
to
spend
some
time
with
you
today.
G
I've
been
tracking
planning
commission
closely
over
the
last
four
months,
but
I
know
we've
not
had
the
opportunity
to
really
interact
as
much
as
I'd
have
liked
to
so
so
I'm
glad
we
have
this
this
opportunity
to
kind
of
reset
that
I'm
gonna
take
a
couple
of
minutes
just
to
chat
through
a
few
things.
Happy
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
myself.
G
I
want
to
tell
you
about
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now
as
the
department.
So
you
have
some
insight
into
that
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
our
working
relationship
and
and
sort
of
how
we
you
know,
collaborate
together
to
get
all
this
good
work
done
and
then
also
just
point
to
a
couple
of
the
big
things
on
the
horizon,
because
I
think
there's
some
important
things
coming
to
the
planning
commission
over
the
next
few
months.
I
just
want
to
sort
of
put
a
highlight.
D
G
G
In
what's
a
course,
that's
called
human
geography,
but
it's
ultimately
a
course
around
sort
of
urban
studies
and
the
interaction
between
people
and
the
places
they
inhabit,
and
I
you
know,
fell
out
of
college
and
got
a
a
job
in
tech.
I
was
actually
working
for
a
small
startup
that
spanned
a
couple
of
different
countries,
and
for
that
and
a
couple
of
other
reasons
I
ended
up
in
in
the
region
in
the
bay
area
and
then
in
about
2000
early
2006.
G
I
was
looking
at
other
opportunities,
and
so
there
was
a
job
at
the
city
for
a
planner
in
the
planning
department.
Well,
you
know
that's
kind
of
related.
To
my
degree,
I
think
I
can
do
something
with
that.
So
went
along
did
a
test
we
used
to
test
really
extensively.
We
still
do
some
testing,
but
it
sat
in
the
conference
room
with
the
plan
set
and
the
general
plan
and
the
zoning
code
and
had
to
figure
out
what
the
response
would
be
to
a
development
application.
G
You
know
had
some
good
conversations
with
some
people
and
was
really
fortunate
to
be
offered
a
position
with
the
department,
which
was
a
little
odd
because
I
didn't
have
experience
with
california,
land
use
requirements
or
sql,
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
had
a
very,
very
steep
learning
curve
very
early
on
in
my
career,
but
I
was
a
development
review
planner
for
about
two
and
a
half
years,
so
I
worked
on
a
whole
variety
of
projects
throughout
the
city
back
then
we
were
organized
by
district.
G
G
So
I
worked
on
projects
like
the
america
center
up
on
237,
the
first
project
in
north
san
jose
a
couple
of
the
big
residential
projects
that
came
through
the
north
center's
area
with
online
policy
and
then
a
lot
of
sort
of
smaller
projects
with
machine
shops
and
courtyards,
and
I
actually
did
a
lot
of
trash
for
a
while.
I
worked
on
recycling
facilities
and
things
like
that.
G
So
in
late
2008
an
opportunity
became
available
in
the
city
manager's
office,
actually
working
for
nancy
in
the
office
of
economic
development,
and
I
was
really
fortunate
to
be
able
to
take
that
opportunity
and
move
upstairs
to
the
17th
floor
and
work
in
oed
around
that
same
time.
Obviously
we
all
know
what
was
going
on
in
2008
as
far
as
the
great
recession
is
concerned,
but
within
city
hall,
I'm
not
sure
how
sort
of
aware
folks
are
there,
but
there
was
a
massive
upheaval
that
really
really
impacted
pbc
as
a
department.
G
We
lost
a
lot
of
really
good
long-standing
staff
members,
a
lot
of
institutional
knowledge
as
a
result
of
the
recession
deep
into
2009,
and
I
think
you
know
we're
still
recovering
from
some
aspect
of
that
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
But
so
I
was
really
fortunate.
I
got
the
opportunity
with
nancy
and
oed.
I
spent
the
next
12
years
in
oed
really
focus
around
small
business,
not
small
business,
around
business
outreach
development
facilitation.
G
I
was
actually
the
lead
for
what's
called
the
cdcsa,
it's
the
internal
working
group
between
departments
within
the
city
within
community
and
economic
development,
and
so
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
interdepartmental
coordination,
a
lot
of
time
on
some
big
policy
initiatives
as
well
and
then,
through
the
pandemic,
the
business
model
for
economic
development.
That's
nancy,
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
tell
you
changed
almost
overnight.
G
So
we
went
from
working
with
big
corporations
to
really
needing
to
deliver
service
to
small
businesses
in
a
time
of
crisis,
and
so
I
was
at
the
kind
of
forefront
of
a
lot
of
that
work
on
on
the
small
business
response
through
the
eoc
and
then,
as
I
said
in
june,
I
got
a
new
job
coming
back
to
pbce
and
it's
really
a
return.
It's
great
to
sort
of
be
back
and
come
back
into
an
organization
that
I
started
off
my
career
with
the
city
at,
but
it's
very
different
work.
G
Just
in
in
15
short
years.
The
work
has
changed
significantly.
I
think
the
context
around
land
use
and
planning
has
shifted
significantly
as
well.
You
know
when
I
think
back
to
where
we
were
in
2006
and
our
approach
to
planning
the
focus
of
the
city
under
the
old
sort
of
general
plan.
The
horizon
2020
was
very
different.
You
know
we
went
through
the
great
recession.
We've
gone
through.
G
You
know
the
longest
economic
expansion
on
on
record
and
then
we've
hit
this
major
pandemic
and,
in
the
background,
we've
got
the
context
of
changes
to
state
law
that
have
completely
upended
the
way
we
look
at
certain
projects,
especially
housing,
and
so
it's
changed.
The
context
completely.
I
think
the
other
thing
that's
really
important
to
be
aware
of
is
that
in
the
last
18
months,
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic,
we've
had
to
shift
our
business
model
significantly
as
well.
G
The
entire
service
delivery
model
for
not
just
planning
but
building
all
of
the
development
services
partners,
was
based
on
an
in-person
service
delivery
model.
Right.
We
met
people
at
the
counter.
We
had
meetings
with
developers
with
applicants
with
the
community
where
we'd
sit
down
and
talk
about
the
issues
that
they
were
seeing
they
were
concerned
with,
and
we
had
to
transition
that
overnight
to
an
online
model
to
a
digital
service
delivery
model.
G
But
we
still
based
that
very
much
on
how
we
used
to
do
business,
which
is
kind
of
it's
all
sort
of
reliant
on
the
in
person
and
that's
that's
definitely
created
challenges
right,
and
I
think
we've
seen
that.
I
think
where
we're
at
right
now
as
a
department
is,
is
you
know
still
trying
to
adjust
to
some
of
that
shift?
Even
though
we've
reopened
some
in-person
services
city
hall,
is
now
open.
We.
E
G
You
know
aspects
of
the
permit
center
open
for
in-person
service.
The
bulk
of
our
work
is
still
occurring
in
the
digital
environment
and
that's
creating
pressures
right
so
just
to
kind
of
highlight
the
difference.
The
conversations
that
would
happen
in
the
office
between
colleagues
in
a
conference
room
between
you
know,
planners
and
developers
in
community
meetings
with
the
community
now
all
largely
occur
over
email,
so
email
volume
has
gone
through
the
roof
and
that's
creating
problems
with
responsiveness
and
how
we
keep
up
and
how
we
track
and
how
we
keep
moving
projects
forwards.
G
So
you
know
we're
still
working
through
some
of
those
challenges.
I
think
the
other
really
important
context
to
understand
for
us
as
a
department.
Right
now
is
that
you
know
the
last
18
months
have
left
a
lot
of
people
reflecting
on
their
decisions
around
work
on
where
they
work,
how
they
work
and
who
they
work
for,
and
so
you
know,
we've
lost
some
key
staff.
G
Certainly,
in
the
last
six
months,
we've
we've
really
seen
some
challenges
around
that
and
I
think
the
other
part
of
it
is
it's
really
hard
to
hire
people
right
now
and
that's
not
a
pvc
issue.
It's
not
a
planning
issue,
that's
an
organization
and
a
regional-wide
issue.
So
so
that's
really
kind
of
where
my
work
is
focused
at
the
moment,
as
the
director
of
the
department
is
focusing
on,
how
do
we
build
a
long-term
vision
for
sustainability,
so
we
can
continue
to
deliver
service
to
the
residents
and
businesses
throughout
the
city.
G
While
we
continue
this
process
of
sort
of
stabilizing
and
rebuilding
as
an
organization,
so
that
kind
of
gets
me
to
sort
of
where?
Where
are
we
right
and
our
relationship,
and
I
want
to
assure
you
that
absolutely
you
know
you
have
access
to
me
directly
over
the
next
sort
of
few
weeks
next
couple
of
months
I'll
be
looking
for
opportunities
to
reach
out
connect
and
maybe
have
some
more
of
those
one-on-one
conversations.
G
So
you
have
more
direct
access
to
me,
but
they
also
want
to
you
know,
foster
that
opportunity
for
collaboration
with
our
staff.
So
you
know,
I
know
you
all
connect
really
well
with
with
robert
and
the
team,
but
you
know
to
the
extent
that
questions
come
up
to
the
extent
that
you're
seeing
projects
to
the
extent
you
have
concerns.
You
know,
I'm
a
resource,
robert
michael,
a
resource
and
certainly
all
of
our
division
managers
and
principal
planners.
Are
there
to
support
you
and
answer
your
questions.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
same
level
and
depth
of
understanding
and
the
same
sort
of
amount
of
information
accessible
to
you
as
you're,
making
decisions.
It's
a
critical
of
critical
importance
that
we
have
that
really
strong
partnership
between
us
as
a
department
and
you
as
the
planning
commission
you're.
An
extension
of
our
ability
to
have
the
conversation
with
the
community
right
to
listen
to
their
concerns
to
review
projects
and
then
make
appropriate
decisions
within
the
context
of
the
plans
that
the
city
has
laid
out.
G
G
But
the
way
that
we
set
up
our
general
plan
in
2011
was
to
do
annual
reviews
on
small
things,
but
really
do
a
major
review
on
a
four-year
cycle.
We're
really
coming
to
the
end
of
the
second
four-year
review,
and
then
the
last
piece
coming
through
in
december
will
be
the
conversation
around
opportunity
housing.
I
just
wanna
sort
of
make
a
note
that
on
next
week
on
thursday,
on
the
28th
of
october,
we're
going
to
be
having
a
study
session
with
the
city
council.
G
I
certainly
would
encourage
you
all
to
pay
attention
to
that.
If
you
have
the
opportunity
and
that'll
really
be
focused
on
sb9
and
sb10,
which
is
this
the
recently
signed
legislation
that
allows
additional
housing
in
traditionally
single-family
areas
that
that's
going
to
be
a
big
topic
for
us
on
sort
of
how
we
deal
with
implementation,
but
it
has
significant
bearing
on
the
kind
of
future
of
our
work
around
opportunity
housing
so
so
that
will
sort
of
play
into
that
december
conversation.
It's
an
important
precursor.
G
We
actually
released
a
an
info
memo
just
explaining
what
the
bills
do
last
week.
If
you
don't
get
the
sort
of
regular
emails
on
coming
out
from
the
city
that
give
you
all
the
sort
of
information
memos.
Let
us
know
and
we'll
follow
up
and
provide
that
information
as
well,
and
so
with
that,
I
think
I'm
going
to
hand
it
back
to
robert
just
finally
to
say
a
big
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
your
service,
for
your
commitment.
E
G
B
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
waiting
for
there
we
go.
My
document
opened
up
there.
We
go
and
we're.
The
first
item
has
to
do
with
the
conduct
of
public
meetings
and
hearings,
and
there
were
questions
from
the
commission
about
the
rules
of
order
that
apply.
At
the
last
commission
meeting,
you
approved
a
change
from
robert's
rules
of
order
to
rosenberg's
rules
of
order
which
are
much
easier
to
understand,
and
I'm
grateful
for
that.
D
I'm
sure
staff
is
as
well,
and
the
chair
probably
is
too,
although
I
haven't
spoken
to
him
about
it,
so
I
may
be.
I
may
be
speaking
out
of
turn
both
items
number
three
and
four
on
your
agenda
today.
There
is
one
thing
to
always
remember
when
we
speak
about
public
hearings
when
we
speak
about
who
we
talk
to
about
items
coming
before
the
planning
commission,
there
are
overarching
rules
having
to
do
with
fairness
and
due
process
for
applicants
in
the
public
coming
before
the
commission.
D
So
when
we
talk
about
all
of
these
different
rules
that
apply
due
process
is
the
primary
concern
of
the
planning
commission
when
it
hears
items
where
it
needs
to
make
findings
in
particular,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
the
conduct
of
public
meetings
and
hearings
due
process
is
the
primary
concern.
That
is
also
a
primary
concern
in
your
communications,
with
applicants
and
with
members
of
the
public
so
to
begin
the
purview
of
the
planning
commission.
This
is
the
first
item
on
the
handout
that
is
up
on
the
screen.
D
D
Section
1000
primarily
gives
the
planning
commission
the
power
to
make
recommendations
to
the
council
those
recommendations
on
plans
for
future
development
of
the
city,
like
the
general
plan,
specific
plans
and
area
development
policies
also
on
land
use
and
development
regulations
of
the
city,
zoning
and
subdivision
ordinance
changes,
for
example,
and
on
capital
improvement
programs.
You
always
have
the
presentation
annually
for
the
adoption
of
the
capital
improvement
program,
and
you
make
a
recommendation
to
the
council
on
that.
There
are
also
other
powers
and
functions
that
are
expressly
given
by
the
city
council.
D
Pursuant
to
the
charter
to
charter
authority
given
to
the
council,
and
primarily
those
are
entitled
20
for
the
planning
commission
they're,
also
in
title
18,
which
has
to
do
with
our
sql
compliance.
It
has
to
do
with
annexations
into
the
city
changes
in
organization,
but
all
and
also
title
19,
which
is
the
subdivision
ordinance,
but
primarily
in
title
20
and
title
20.
Grants
to
the
planning
commission
final
authority
over
conditional
use
permit
over
conditional
use
permits
as
a
hearing
body.
D
Obviously
those
permits
can
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
but
the
planning
commission
has
the
authority
to
issue
those
permits
and
make
findings
in
order
to
issue
those
permits.
The
planning
commission
is
also
the
appellate
hearing
body
for
director's
permit
decisions
and
in
those,
if
appealed
the
planning
decision.
The
planning
commission's
decision
is
final.
It
is
not
appealable
any
further.
The
next
court
recourse
on
both
of
those
would
be
to
go
to
court
and
challenge
there's
also
san
jose
municipal
code,
chapter
2.08
chapter
two
has
has
provisions
dealing
with
every
commission.
D
I'm
only
going
to
skirt
over
that
and
mention
it,
because
there
really
are
no
substantive
provisions
that
really
that
are
very
important
in
that
code
section.
The
primary
one
is
that
the
city
council
reduced
the
voting
requirement
for
most
of
the
planning
commission's
decisions
from
a
majority
of
the
majority
of
the
entire
commission,
meaning
a
majority
of
the
11
members
are
six
to
a
majority
of
those
members
who
are
present
so
long
as
there
is
a
quorum
present,
and
that
was
because
sometimes
we
had
trouble
getting
enough
people
to
vote
on
certain
items.
D
It's
happened
a
few
times
in
the
last
several
years.
The
only
exception
to
that
is
general
plan
amendments
general
plan
amendments
require
a
vote
of
six
that
is
reflected
in
the
commission's
bylaws
as
well,
so
bylaws
are
accurate
in
that
regard
with
regard
to,
and
I'm
on
on
number
1c
right
now.
With
regard
to
the
planning
commission's
duties,
you
will
see
in
policies
that
we
discuss
on
item
four,
for
example,
that
the
planning
commission
is
expected
to
be
informed
by
reading
all
the
materials
that
are
given
to
you.
D
Listening
to
the
hearing,
all
the
parties
that
speak
at
the
hearing
staff,
the
applicant
any
public
comment
and
you're
to
make
independence,
land
houston
recommendations,
meaning
that
you're
not
to
be
influenced,
for
example
by
the
council
by
any
other
city
commission
by
anyone
else.
You
make
independent
decisions
based
upon
what
you
think
is
best
for
the
city.
D
You
have
also
a
relationship
to
various
public
bodies,
but
you're
different.
There
are
only
two
other
commissions
like
you
civil
service
and
the
appeals
hearing
board
that
make
findings
and
actually
can
make
final
decisions.
The
city
council
is
the
policy
maker
for
the
city.
The
planning
commission
does
not
make
policy.
What
the
planning
commission
does
is
make
recommendations
to
the
council
on
policy
that
is
brought
before
you
like
changes
to
the
general
plan
like
specific
plans
like
area
development
policies
and
like
zoning
ordinance
changes.
D
D
The
planning
commission
and
the
two
other
commissions
I
mentioned
are
unique
in
that
they
are
formed
by
the
city
charter.
Planning.
Commission
is
also
required
by
state
law
by
the
land,
use
and
planning
law,
and
the
planning
commission
has
what's
called
an
adjudicatory
function
so
granted
you
can't
legislate,
you
don't
make
laws,
but
what
you
do
is
you
have
permit
hearings
where
you
are
required
to
make
findings
based
upon
the
evidence
in
the
record
in
order
to
support
your
decision.
D
So
when
you
have,
for
example,
a
conditional
youth
permit
before
you
or
other
type
of
permit
you're
required
to
make
the
findings
that
the
city
council
has
specified
and
adopted
in
the
city
code,
for
the
issuance
of
that
particular
permit
and
you'll
find
that
that
is
listed
in
every
single
staff
report
that
you
get.
The
staff
goes
through
all
the
findings
that
are
necessary
to
make
under
the
zoning
code
for
that
type
of
permit.
D
Why
you
don't
agree,
and
so,
whatever
of
those
actions
that
you
take
on
permits,
you
are
required
to
make
findings
one
way
or
the
other.
With
regard
to
protocols,
which
is
section
two
here,
there
is
a
due
process
and
fair
hearing
requirement,
like
I
mentioned
previously
that
overarches
everything
that
you
do
you're
required
to
be
objective.
That
doesn't
mean
that
you
walk
into
a
hearing
without
any
opinion
whatsoever.
D
D
That
is
that
that
provides
a
fair
hearing.
Also,
there
are
disclosures
required
and
is
you
you
have
all
been
very,
very
good
about
being
concerned
about
conflicts
of
interest
and
disclosing
those
on
the
record
when
you
have
them.
The
other
type
of
disclosures
that
are
also
required
is
when
something
is
going
to
be
on.
A
planning.
Commission
agenda
is
on
a
planning
commission
agenda,
and
you
have
spoken
to
someone
and
gained
information
about
that
item.
D
D
Someone
makes
a
motion
and
there
is
a
roll
call
vote
and
roll
call
votes
are
required
on
these
items
by
state
law.
You
cannot
do
a's
or
nays,
and
they
also
have
to
be
either
recorded
on
the
recording
of
the
hearing
and
the
minutes
of
the
hearing.
So
when
we're
tape
recording
the
hearing
either
video
or
audio,
the
vote
needs
to
be
recorded
there
verbally
and
the
chair
needs
to
say
who
voted
how.
D
So
they
can
say
the
motion
passes
with
these
commissioners
against
or
whatever,
and
but
they
need
to
hear
your
vote
on
the
record.
The
other
way
of
accomplishing
that
also
which,
when
it's
working
most
of
the
time,
is
by
having
the
vote
shown
on
screen
electronically,
and
we
have
done
that
as
well,
and
that
happens
regularly
as
well,
and
I
at
this
point
I'm
concluding
item
number
three
excuse
me
we're
going
to
go
on
to
robert
excuse
me
robert's
rules
of
order,
rosenberg's
rules
of
order.
I'm
sorry!
Let
me
pull
that
up.
D
Having
having
heard
no
one
or
did
I
hear
anybody?
Okay,
I'm
not
hearing
anyone,
so
I'm
going
to
the
very
first.
This
is
the
one
with
the
caricature
of
dave,
rosenberg
judge
rosenberg
on
the
front
page,
and
I
am
not
going
to
go
through.
This
is
a
very,
very
good
summary
of
rosenberg's
rules
of
order
and
the
summary,
in
fact,
also
basically
talks
about
simplifying
what
were
robert's
rules
of
order
and
and
modernizing
them.
D
D
D
Then
we
allow
the
public,
including
the
applicant
to
speak
applicant,
usually
goes
first
for
five
minutes.
We
usually
do
two
minutes
for
every
every
other
member
of
the
public
and
then
allow
five-minute
rebuttal
period
for
the
applicant.
After
that,
you
know
the
commission
can
ask
the
public
and
the
applicant
any
questions
that
it
desires
to
ask.
D
Staff
may
ask
answer
any
questions
that
come
up
during
public
comment
and
after
that
the
chair
closes
the
public
hearing
and
the
commission
begins
deliberation
with
a
with
a
motion,
potentially
emotion
as
well
during
that
period
and
then
a
vote
on
the
motion
and,
as
I
said,
it
needs
to
be
a
voice
vote,
a
roll
call
vote.
It
cannot
just
be
eyes
and
knives
the
raised
hand,
vote
and
so
moving
on
to
the
third
page,
which
I
think
is
the
is
of
most
interest
to
the
commissioners.
D
If
there's
a
second
and
the
chair
recognizes
the
people
making
the
motions,
the
three
basic
motions
under
rosenberg's
rules
are
the
basic
motion,
which
is
the
one
that
puts
forward
a
decision
for
the
body's
consideration,
such
as
I
move
that
the
commission
adopt.
This
approve
the
staff
recommendation
for
project
and
then
whatever
the
file
number
is.
That
would
be
an
example
of
that
and
then
someone
seconds
that
motion
there
may
be-
and
this
has
happened
to
counsel
quite
a
bit
on
items
that
I've
had
before
council.
D
The
second
type
of
motion
is
a
motion
to
amend
so,
for
example,
the.
Let's
look
at
the
first
motion.
I
move
to
accept
the
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendation
to
approve
the
staff
recommendation
on
file
number
whatever
it
is,
and
then
someone
makes
a
motion
to
amend
saying
I
would
like
I
move
that
we
amend
the
motion
to
include
a
condition
that
says
whatever
the
amendment
is
right
and
then
that
motion
would
be
seconded
the
motion
to
amend
that
would
be.
That
motion
would
then
be.
D
The
motion
to
amend
would
be
taken
first,
and
what
we've
done
often
also
is
that
we
have
basically
the
motion
to
amend
modifies
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor
there's
also
a
third
type
of
motion,
which
is
a
substitute
motion
which
completely
ignores
the
original
emotion
as
far
as
substance
and
wants
to
do
something
else.
For
example,
the
original
the
basic
motion
is,
I
move
to
approve
this
project,
as
recommended
by
staff.
The
substitute
motion
is,
I
move
to
deny
the
project
or
it
you
know,
and
that
could
be
a
substitute
motion.
D
So
if
you
have,
for
example,
two
motions
before
the
body
a
motion
to
amend
and
then
you
have
the
basic
original
emotion,
the
motion
to
amend
us
heard
first
and
voted
on
first
and
commented
on
first.
If
that
motion
succeeds
it
supersedes
the
original
motion.
If
it
does
not
success
succeed,
if
it
does
not
get
affirmative
votes,
then
you
go
back
to
the
original
motion,
the
basic
motion
and
that's
the
one
that
that
is
decided
upon,
and
so
that
would
be
the
order
of
business.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
that.
D
One
thing
that
I
also
want
to
mention,
and
I'm
looking
for
where
this
is
on
the
page,
is:
if
there
is
a
tie,
vote
of
the
commission
say
there
are
members
absent
or
there
is
a
tie
vote
generally.
That
thai
vote
is
a
denial
of
the
of
of
the
project.
It
will
not
be
approved,
it
will
be
denied
because
you
need
affirmative
votes
to
take
action,
and
so
it
results
in
a
denial.
D
D
D
Yeah,
I'm
on
page
on
four
right
now,
which
is
to
debate
or
not
to
debate.
Obviously,
motions
on
that
have
to
do
with
permits
or
recommendations
are
debatable.
That
is
something
where
we
take
where
we
take.
You
know
public
comment,
that's
something
where
the
commissioners
discuss
it
on
the
dais,
their
opinions
about
how
how
they
want
to
vote
their
concerns,
whatever
it
is,
but
there
are
certain
items
that
are
not
debatable.
D
A
D
That's
a
that's
a
really
good
question.
There
is
a
council
policy
that
basically
discourages
extension
just
because
you
don't
want
to
vote
or
be
you
know.
Abstention
is,
however,
required
when
you
have
a
conflict
of
interest
or
when
you
believe
that
you
are
biased
on
a
project
or
or
against
someone
coming
before
you
or
against
just
a
particular
concept
in
general.
D
Your
feelings
are
so
strong
that
you
don't
feel
that
you
can
hear
the
matter
fairly
and
I
will
give
you
an
example
of
that
and
I
may
have
given
you
an
example
that
I
used
to
give
the
civil
service
commission
and
the
civil
service
commission
is
charged
with
the
discipline
of
public
employees
working
for
the
city
and
they're
charged
at
hearing
appeals
of
discipline.
That's
been
rendered
and
what
I
tell
the
commission
is.
D
Sometimes
you
don't
even
know
you
don't
even
know
that
you
have
that
bias
until
someone
shows
up
and
you
recognize
them
or
something
happens
that
triggers
you
and
the
example
that
I
give
them
is,
for
example,
let's
say
several
years
ago
you
had
a
police
officer,
pull
you
over
and
you
thought
the
circumstances
were
not
legitimate
for
that
officer
pulling
you
over.
He
acted
very
rudely
toward
you.
D
That
kind
of
a
thing,
so
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
there
is
to
abstain
and
that's.
That
is
an
example
of
bias
and
I'll
give
you
other
examples
in
our
following
talk
in
item
number
four,
but
there
are.
There
may
be
times
that
you
feel
so
strongly
about
something
that
you
don't
feel
that
you
can
be
an
impartial
decision
maker,
and
so
that
also
would
require
abstentions.
D
So
it's
conflict
of
interest
and
bias,
which
is
a
form
of
conflict
of
interest,
the
city,
council
rules
and
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
quote
which
rule
it
is:
it's
probably
0-4,
but
it
could
be
another
one
require
you
to
vote.
If
you're
at
the
hearing
you
vote,
you
just
can't
say
I
really
don't
feel
like
making
a
decision
in
this
matter.
The
reason
that
you're
on
the
commission
that
you've
been
appointed
is
to
make
a
decision
is
to
assist
in
making
a
decision
and
state
your
opinion.
E
Thank
you
chair
and
robert,
and
I
just
don't
have
a
question.
I
just
have
a
comment.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
vera
for
walking
us
through
this.
It's,
I
think
the
reason
I
don't
have
any
questions
is.
You
were
very
clear
and
the
examples
also
really
speak
to
me.
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
do
that.
D
Well,
thank
you
and
the
only
one,
only
other
thing
I'm
going
to
mention
having
to
do
with
this,
because
I
think
that
you're
all
very
courteous
and
that
you
know
you
understand
the
decrement
of
being
a
planning
commissioner
and
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
speak
and
hearing
them
and
I've
seen
that
in
your
conduct,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
the
last
part
of
this.
But
I
really
do
encourage
you
to
read
this
several
pages
because
they
really
are
excellent.
D
As
far
as
you
know
really
talking
about
the
practical
matters
of
a
commission
hearing
the
only
place
where
it's
inaccurate
is
when
it
talks
about
doing
you
know
the
a
naval
you
you're
required
to
do
a
roll
call
and
that's
the
place
where
it's
inaccurate
as
far
as
the
law,
but
that
applies
to
this
type
of
a
hearing
body
that
may
be
accurate
for
other
bodies,
but
not
for
this
one.
The
other
thing
is
a
motion
to
reconsider,
which
is
on
page.
D
Let
me
see
here
it's
on
page
six
or
seven.
Six
of
seven
excuse
me.
This
is
an
unusual
motion
that
I
that
has
been
used.
A
couple
of
times
I
want
to
say
two
or
three
times
on
items
that
I've
had
that
went
before
the
council.
I've
never
seen
it
used
by
the
commission,
but,
for
example,
I'll
give
you
a
recent
example.
D
We
had
we
had
a
hearing
where
there
was
there
was
going
to
be
information
that
was
provided
by
an
applicant
and
the
commission
of
the
council
did
not.
I
believe
it
was
that
they
did
not
continue
the
meeting
in
order
to
do
that
they
forgot
to-
and
this
was
a
really
lengthy
hearing
where
there
were
tons
of
amendments
to
the
original
emotion
being
made.
The
clerk,
and
I
were
like
barely
keeping
up
with
what
did
this
person
say
that
they
wanted?
D
You
know
very
complicated,
went
late
at
night
and
then
and
then,
when
it
was
reheard,
there
was
more
discussion
and
then
it
was.
It
was
continued
to
another
hearing
date
more
discussion
and
they
discovered
that
they
did
not
put
down
a
date
certain
by
which
they
had
to
come
back.
You
know
by
which
the
continued
hearing
was
going
to
be,
and
they
needed
a
date
certain
so
later
in
the
meeting.
One
of
the
council
members
said
we
need
to
go
back
to
this
item.
D
I
want
to
do
a
motion
to
reconsider
because
we
need
to
have
a
time
cert
or
a
date
certain
to
come
back.
You
know
to
have
this
hearing
continued
to,
and
everybody
went
oh
yeah
you're
right,
and
so
they
got
a
second
to
that
motion
and
did
it
now.
What
happened
was
you
have
to
have
the
it
can
only
be
made
by
a
member
who
voted
in
the
majority
on
the
original
motion,
and
it
has
to
the
the
member
also
has
to
agree.
D
The
member
who
made
the
original
motion
has
to
agree
to
bring
the
item
back
and
have
it
reconsidered
in
these
cases
that
that
did
happen
because
they
were
mistakes
that
occurred,
and
so
this
is
always
something
that
you
can
do
if
we
forget
something
or
there's
a
mistake
or
whatever.
It's
never
happened
in
the
years
that
I've
been
dealing
with
the
planning
commission.
D
But
if
we
discover
that
that
happens,
it
may
be
that
someone
says
we
need
to
do
a
motion
to
reconsider
to
fix
something
it
has
to
happen
at
the
same
meeting,
and
so
just
so
that
you
know
that
could
happen.
It
probably
never
will,
but
it
could,
and
so
with
that,
let
me
move
on
to
the
second,
I
the
second
handout
here,
which
is
a
cheat
sheet
on
rosenberg's
rules
of
order.
D
For
example,
a
point
of
privilege
doesn't
need
a
second
it
talks
about
who
decides
whether
it
requires
a
vote
of
the
commission,
whether
it's
a
super
majority
vote
or
whether
the
chair
can
decide
and
whether
or
not
the
motion
can
be
amended.
So,
for
example,
a
motion
to
adjourn
doesn't
get
amended.
For
example,
a
complaint
about
noise
doesn't
get
amended.
D
D
We
don't
have
to
follow
them
entirely
strictly
and
the
reason
it
says
that
is
that
instances
come
up
where
due
process
and
common
sense
require
us
to
do
certain
things.
That
may
not
be
addressed
in
any
of
these
rules
of
order,
and
so
that
would
be.
That
would
be
the
most
common
you
know.
Sometimes
you
just
make
you
have
to
you
have
to
make
a
call-
and
I
advise
that
way,
and
so
with
that.
E
D
E
D
D
The
basic
motion
yeah
and
you
know
that
happens
at
council
meetings
all
the
time,
for
example,
and
sometimes
what
happens
is
the
maker
of
the
motion
and-
and
we
don't
do
this
formally
sometimes
and
you'll-
hear
me
do
this
too,
even
though
I'm
not
a
commissioner
I'll
hear
the
basic
motion,
the
commissioner
says:
let's
adopt
the
staff
recommendation,
but
the
staff
made
certain
tweaks
to
their
recommendation
at
the
meeting.
They
put
them
in
the
record
verbally
and
you'll.
Hear
me
say:
can
we
clarify?
D
Does
that
include
x,
y
and
z,
and
they
say
yes
and
is
that
okay
with
the
secondary
russia,
yes
and
we
move
on?
That's
not
a
formal
amendment,
I'm
just
clarifying
the
motion
and
other
commissioners
can
do
that
as
well.
The
council
does
that
too
sometimes
and
they're
saying
does
that
include
this,
and
the
maker
of
the
motion
says
yes
and
we
clarify
it
among
the
group.
So
you
know
you
can
do
that
if
you
just
want
a
clarification
or
if
you
truly
want
something.
That's
an
amendment.
D
E
D
D
That
is
never
going
to
happen
with
planning
commission,
because
you
have
a
duty
to
either
make
recommendations
to
the
council
or
adjudicate
permit
decisions
in
front
of
you,
and
there
are
timelines
on
some
of
those
as
well,
and
so
you
are
never
going
to
be
tabling
anything
unless
somebody
says
something
like
why
don't
we
have
a
study
session
on
such
and
such
a
date,
and
then
you
kind
of
like
you
know
what
we're
not
ready
for
this?
Let's
just
table
it
and
bring
it
back
at
some
future
date.
D
Yes
and
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
a
deferral,
you
know
on
the
planning
commission
agenda.
We
have
the
deferral
item,
which
is
usually
right
below
public
comment.
You
know,
we've
got
rule,
call
public
comment
and
then
deferral
and
the
deferrals
are
usually
something
that
either
the
applicant
or
staff
is
asking
for
to
defer
so
you're,
not
even
opening
the
public
hearing
right,
you're,
just
automatically
saying
we're
going
to
put
it
on
a
different
date.
D
A
D
I'm
okay
with
knocking
it
out,
and
I
noticed
we
have
a
lot
of
time
for
public
comment
at
the
end,
which
we
can
probably
you
know,
which
I
think
we're
not
going
to
use
that
up,
given
the
number
of
members
of
the
public
that
are
here.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'll,
knock
through
it
and
we
can
do
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
of.
F
D
D
I
am
missing
something
here
just
a
moment.
You
know
what
jennifer
hang
on,
I'm
just
going
to
go
with
what
you
have
on
the
screen
right
now,
okay,
I
was
asked
to
discuss
the
how
commissioners
can
communicate
with
the
public
and
can
communicate
with
applicants,
and
there
are
limitations
in
the
city
council
policy
policies
that
have
to
do
with
public
communications.
D
The
most
important
of
those
or
I
should
say-
and
these
are
repeated
throughout
several
different
council
policies-
are
these
ones
that
I've
highlighted
in
policy
0-4
and
what
they
basically
again.
The
biggest
concept
here
to
remember
is
that
you
have
a
duty
to
provide
due
process
to
applicants
and
the
public
who
come
before
you
and
that
you
have
a
duty
of
fairness
and
so
in
your
communications.
D
It
basically
says
all
commissioners
should
conduct
meetings
in
a
dignified
and
courteous
manner.
No
bias
or
prejudice
against
any
individual
or
group
of
people
should
be
manifested
by
the
commission
by
any
commissioner
or
condoned
by
any
commission,
and
that
is
just
a
very
overall
due
process.
No
conflict
of
interest,
no
bias
rule
jennifer.
Can
we
move
on
to
the
next
highlighted
portion
and
I'm
sorry
I'm
working
off
of
my
phone
right
now
because
of
it.
So
I've
highlighted
the
prohibitions
on
the
use
of
various
things.
You
know
you
know
you're.
D
H
here,
city
staff
or
any
outside
agency-
and
I
know
some
of
you
have
had
questions
about
pressure
that
you
feel
because
you've
been
appointed
by
a
certain
council
district
by
whatever
by
whoever
and
that
you
were
also
contacted
by
mem
by
people
in
your
district
by
people
that
you
know
by
applicants
and
the
bottom
line.
Is
you
can
listen,
but
you
do
not
base
your
decision
on
pressures
that
you
receive
from
those
people,
and
that
is
that
is
the
most
important
thing
to
remember.
D
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
n
here,
which
says
all
conflicts
of
interest
and
circumstances,
giving
rise
to
a
perceived
conflict
of
interest
and
notice.
It
says
perceived,
not
actual,
should
be
avoided.
Commissioners
must
avoid
the
appearance
of
favoritism
toward
people
and
organizations
with
whom
a
commissioner
is
affiliated.
D
For
example,
if
a
commissioner
serves
as
a
volunteer
board
member
for
a
service
organization,
the
commissioner
must
not
vote
on
any
matter
which
will
directly
affect
that
organization.
I'm
going
to
actually
take
that
a
little
bit
further.
One
of
the
questions
that
we
were
asked,
for
example,
is
people
are
contacting
me
whatever?
D
Can
we
move
on
to
the
next
yellow
portion
here?
Okay,
commissioners
are
not
to
con
contact,
consultants
or
others
under
contract
with
the
city
directly
outside
of
commission
meetings
unless
they're
authorized
by
the
city
administration.
That,
of
course,
is
not
true
with
city
staff.
If
you
have
questions,
we
encourage
you
to
ask
city
staff
those
questions
so
that
we
can
respond
to
the
entire
commission
and
answer
your
question
before
the
entire
commission.
We
do
that
and
there's
another
important
one
here.
D
Subsection
g
commissioners
shall
not
act
as
mediators
or
facilitators
between
the
parties
on
matters
that
come
before
them.
Any
facilitation
must
be
part
of
the
public
process
and
as
requested
or
required
by
the
city
council
planning
commission
is
never
really
a
facilitator
between
parties,
but
it's
very
important
that
you're
not
out
in
the
public
or
not
out
with
an
applicant
in
the
public,
attempting
to
fix
a
situation.
D
And
for
number
two
here
you
are
a
quasi-judicial
commission.
You
act
as
as
sort
of
a
judge
of
the
the
items
that
come
before
you
and
it
says
commissions
which
sit
as
hearing
bodies
which
you
are
and
take.
Administrative
actions,
including
the
planning
commission,
must
be
diligent
to
ensure
that
a
hearing
is
fair
and
impartial.
D
So
that
literally,
is
a
pro
prohibition
here,
and
this
is
where
it
says:
if
you
have
a
communication
with
a
party
or
party's
representative
regarding
the
subject
matter,
facts
or
issues
of
an
administrative
action
pending
before
the
commission,
the
communication
shall
be
disclosed
on
the
record
of
the
administrative
action
or
proceeding
before
the
action
is
heard.
So
at
the
outset
you
need
to
when
the
item
is
heard,
you
need
to
state
who
you
spoke
to
and
what
the
nature
of
the
communication
was.
D
It
also
says
any
visit
to
the
site,
or
other
information
gained
outside
of
the
hearing
must
be
stated
on
the
record,
and
commissioners
must
disqualify
themselves.
If
there's
any
appearance
of
bias
and
notice,
it
doesn't
say,
actual
bias.
It
says
appearance
of
bias
and
we
have
rendered
a
lot
of
advice
on
this
in
the
past.
D
D
Thank
you.
I
am
not
going
to
get
into
this
policy
in
any
detail
because
it
repeats
a
lot
of
what
was
said
in
0-4,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
this
0-15
policy,
but
I
put
it
there
in
case.
You
want
to
peruse
it
because
the
three
policies
that
I
did
attach
to
the
0-4,
0-15
and
0-30
all
deal
with
conduct
of
public
officials
and
commissioners
as
public
officials,
and
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
those
and
then,
if
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
policy,
0-36.
D
Excuse
me,
but
what
this
policy
does
on
the
first
page
in
purpose?
Is
it
really
it
states
that
the
city
boards
and
commissions
are
formed
in
order
to
provide
independent
recommendations
to
the
council
or
in
the
context
of
quasi-judicial
boards,
such
as
the
planning
commission,
to
make
independent
decisions
and
take
administrative
actions?
D
And
when
you
go,
you
know,
and
they
basically
say
that
communications
to
the
council,
also
through
the
council
liaison
and
so
the
council
liaison
is,
is
council,
member
iminez
and
that
you
know-
and
he
usually
he
has
appeared
at
these
at
these
retreats.
Previously.
I
don't
know
if
he
was
invited
by
planning
this
year
or
whatever,
but
he
has
appeared
previously.
So
if
there
any
any
concerns
that
the
commission
has
or
commissioner
has,
then
we
basically
go
through
and
they
want
them
expressed
to
the
council.
D
This
is
basically
a
synthesis
of
what
we
just
went
over
in
policy
0-4.
I
believe
it's
verbatim
the
same,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
this
out
because
it
appears
in
it's
important
enough
to
appear
in
several
council
policies,
and
it
also
has
the
special
under
subsection
e,
which
is
on
page
four,
the
last
page.
D
Please
forward
those
to
jennifer
provador
and
to
robert
manford,
and
if
there
are
issues
that
city
staff
need
to
take
care
of
to
respond,
they
will
forward
them
to
the
staff
member
who
can
do
that
whose
project
that
is-
and
they
will
also
make
certain
that,
when
that
those
communications
come
up
before
the
when
the
item
comes
up
before
the
commission,
that
those
communications
are
included.
As
public
comment
to
the
commission,
how
I
suggest
that
you
respond
to
phone
calls
and
emails
and
any
other
communication
texts
whatever
it
may
be.
D
D
The
answer
is
you
can't
commit
to
anything
until
you've
heard
the
entire
and
you
know
all
of
the
people
speak
and
all
of
the
information
to
be
given
at
the
hearing,
and
that's
really
what
the
response
is.
Thank
you
I'll
consider
what
you
have
to
say,
but
I
need
to
hear
everything
when
it
comes
before
the
commission
right,
because
that
is
the
unbiased
manner
of
looking
at
it
and
in
all
honesty
I
may
you
know
I
personally
have
opinions
and
so
do
you.
D
You
may
be
swayed
a
certain
way
or
another
and
looking
at
a
project
and
then,
when
you
hear
the
other
side
at
a
commission
meeting
or
you
hear
other
people's
concern,
your
mind
changes
and
that's
legitimate
leave
yourself
open
to
that.
That's
what
the
law
requires.
It
requires
you
to
be
open
and
fair
and
hear
what
people
have
to
say
and
the
evidence
that
they
present
at
hearings.
D
D
They
may
also
go
to
other
members
of
the
planning
commission
and,
if
any
of
the
planning
commissioners
begin
speaking
to
each
other,
and
you
think,
you've
only
spoken
to
one
person,
you
can't
control
the
actions
of
others,
and
it
may
be
that
you
end
up
with
six
people
a
quorum
of
the
commission
hearing
information
and
discussing
it
in
series.
You
know
kind
of
like
a
tele,
the
game
of
telephone
or
something
I'm
discussing
it.
You
know,
commissioner,
a
talks
to
commissioner
b
commissioner
b
then
talks
to
commissioners
c
and
d.
D
You
know
kind
of
counting
on
his
hands.
Okay,
I've
only
talked
to
three
other
people
and
then
commissioner
c
talks
to
a
couple
of
others.
You
have
a
seriatum
violation
of
the
brown
act,
and
so
I
want
you
to
be
very,
very
careful
about
not
speaking
to
each
other
about
items
that
are
coming
up
before
the
planning
commission,
or
that
would
come
up
because
the
nature
of
the
project
and
also
being
careful
about
how
you
respond
to
people
did
anybody
have
any
questions
about
that,
because
I
know
that's
very
problematic
for
you
in
practice.
A
All
right
seeing
none
vera.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
thorough
analysis
of
both
the
new
rules
of
matt
roberts,
the
rothenberg
rules
and
and
the
interactions
amongst
ourselves
and
the
community
and
staff.
As
always.
Thank
you
for
your
due
diligence
and
thank
you
for
always
being
there
when
we
need
the
help.
So
with
that
going
one
more
time,
any
questions.
A
All
right
everyone,
so
with
that,
we
will
now
go
to
the
break
and,
as
I
stated
earlier
for
the
second
half
vice
chair,
casey
will
be
managing
the
meeting,
so
don't
have
too
much
fun
without
me.
If
so,
I
will
look
at
the
video
and
see
if
you
did
but
enjoy
your
weekends
and
thank
you
so
much
to
staff
and
everyone
else
for
coming
together
and
wishing
you
a
very
good
second,
half
of
this
retreat.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
C
Thank
you
very
much,
robert
nancy
klein
again
director
of
economic
development,
and
I'm
here
today
with
nathan,
donato
einstein,
who's
going
to
be
actually
sharing,
slides
and
then
nathan
and
I
can
both
answer
some
questions.
I
really
appreciate
getting
to
spend
a
bit
of
time
with
you
in
this
small
group
format.
C
Some
of
you
might
have
thought
he
didn't
graduate
college,
but
I
know
he
did
because
I've
seen
his
resume
and
worked
with
them
a
long
time,
but
there's
just
one
of
those
very
beloved
british
isms
and
also
just
wanted
to
mention
that
when
chris
was
with
planning,
he
was
a
darn
good
planner.
He
got
the
issues,
he
got
the
big
picture,
he
got
the
details
and
he
got
a
tremendous
amount
done
in
in
as
little
time
as
possible.
C
What
I
really
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
was
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
oed
oca
office
of
economic
development
and
cultural
affairs,
and
then,
if
you
have
thoughts
about
that,
questions
would
be
great
to
get
to
talk
to
you
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
nathan.
So
office
of
economic
development
had
a
name
change
this
year,
which
was
super
intentional,
and
that
is
office
of
economic
development
and
cultural
affairs,
and
our
office
of
cultural
affairs
is
one
of
the
elements
of
economic
development.
C
We
get
that
that
is
a
huge
part
of
economic
development
is
arts
and
culture,
and
in
the
past
year,
there's
no
more
important
time
than
coming,
trying
to
come
out
of
covid,
certainly
being
in
covid,
then
the
focus
on
arts
and
culture
of
one.
The
artists,
who
are
small
business,
who
are
greatly
impacted
and
a
lot
of
them,
are
people
of
color
and,
secondly,
the
impact
of
reflecting
culture,
our
resilience
and
our
struggle
all
at
the
same
time.
C
And
why
not
a
little
controversy
like
holding
the
moment
out
at
the
airport
right,
whatever
you
thought
of
that?
So
we're
very
pleased
to
make
that
name
change
and
for
us,
it's
been
very,
very
intentional
and
you'll
see
more
work
that
highlights
the
the
arts
and
culture
component
of
economic
development
on
the
business
development
section,
which
is
really
the
world
chris
ran
when
he
was
with
us
in
economic
development
and
really
is
the
heart
of
economic
development
and
to
just
name
a
few
things:
development
facilitation.
C
We
worked
very
closely,
as
many
of
you
already
know,
making
sure
that
we're
supporting
city
staff
planning
department
and
the
development
services
team,
and
also
hoping
to
move
things
through
a
little
more
smoothly
when
sometimes
there
may
be
extra
time
or
somewhat
disagreement
in
different
whatever
I
want
to
say
in
the
different
priorities
that
that
we
have,
because
we
have
so
many
competing
priorities
at
the
city.
And
I
know
you
all
know
that
and
within
biz
dev
there's
also
business
attraction
and
retention.
C
C
If
any
you
joined
us
out
there,
they
give
a
tremendous
number
of
grants
and
that's
a
huge
workspace
all
on
its
own.
So
there's
quite
a
bit
of
work
there,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
work
to
future,
which
is
our
training
and
employment
arm,
we
serve
nine
cities,
not
just
the
city
of
san
jose
and
working
to
develop
partnerships
like
apprenticeship
programs
really
focusing
on
sectors.
C
C
Jeff
ruster
runs
that
shop
and
he's
quite
good
and
then
real
estate
is
a
small
again,
a
small
team
within
our
team,
but
we
buy
and
sell
and
work
with
public
works
on
any
of
the
vacation
and
or
other
public
works
transactions
and
then
work
on
the
projects
that
are
in
city,
right-of-way
and,
and
you
know
that
team
works
exceedingly
well.
We'll
will
have
gotten
through
measure
t
site
securing
the
sites
in
record
time,
which
is
really
important
for
our
public
safety.
C
Folks,
we'll
have
sold
surplus
land,
we've
been
finding
the
housing
department,
most
of
their
sites
for
emergency
interim
housing,
etc.
And
then,
of
course,
we
have
a
mighty,
but
again
small
administrative
division,
which
helps
the
rest
keeps
us
in
shape,
whips
us
in
shape.
So
with
that
I'll,
just
pause
for
a
second
see.
If
there
are
any
questions
you
might
have
at
all,
and
also
just
say,
you
know
always
going
through
robert,
that's
your
main
point
of
contact
and
we
love
to
work.
C
C
I
don't
see
any
hands.
Okay.
Well
with
that,
let
me
introduce
nathan,
donato,
weinstein
and,
and
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
just
quickly
mention
about
nathan,
because
this
is
an
opportunity
to
get
to
know
each
other
a
little
bit
better
nathan.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
read
the
business
journal,
but
before
nathan
came
to
us
from
the
business
journal
there
he
wasn't.
F
F
F
But
first
I
want
to
caveat
this
by
saying:
am
I
okay,
I'm
good?
My
internet
question
is
so
good.
Okay,
awesome:
the
caveat
is:
take
retail
vacancy
numbers
like
this,
with
a
little
bit
of
a
grain
of
salt,
they
probably
don't
reflect
what's
going
on
in
your
neighborhood
and
when
I
talked
with
some
retail
brokers
this
week
to
verify
these
official
numbers,
they
told
me
they.
F
What
we
call
box
space
even
during
the
pandemic,
but
one
area
that
has
struggled
more
than
others
is
the
category
of
what
we
call
street
retail
or
the
commercial
corridor
retail,
especially
in
our
more
vulnerable
communities,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
a
minute,
but
also
want
to
think
about
what
is
filling
retail
space
today.
What
is
it?
What
does
that
term
mean?
Well,
it's
different
now
and
much
of
our
retail
activity
and
tenancy.
F
Now
is
all
about
food
fitness,
medical
services,
even
as
a
growing
sector,
personal
services
really
outside
of
mall
or
department
discount
stores.
It's
not
so
much
the
apparel
record
store
shoes
and
those
sorts
of
things,
and-
and
that's
no
surprise
right-
we've
been
seeing
that
over
the
last
you
know
more
than
a
decade
really
also
just
want
to
spend
a
moment
on
this
notion
of
retail
and
the
connection
to
sales
tax.
F
So
when
we
think
of
retail,
we
often
think
of
sales
tax
and
for
a
good
reason,
sales
tax
is
the
general,
the
general
fund's
second
largest
source
of
revenue
and
a
lot
of
it
comes
from
general.
What
we
call
general
retail,
but
retail,
isn't
the
only
contributor
to
our
sales
tax
revenue.
You
also
have
sectors
like
construction
business
to
business
sales,
transportation
and
food
products
outside
of
a
retail
setting.
F
So,
let's
do
a
quick
overview
here
when
we
think
of
retail,
we
often
think
of
street
retail,
like
this
stretch
of
alum
rock,
where
it's
really
a
mix
of
offices,
services,
traditional
retail
restaurants,
usually
in
a
standalone
format
that
faces
the
street
and
you
might
have
parking
in
the
back.
These
are
areas
like
13th
street
lincoln,
avenue,
japan,
town
really
heavy
with
mom
and
pop
and
independent
business
types
of
types
of
of
entrepreneurs,
and
we
tend
to
be
protective
of
them.
F
Then
you
have
your
neighborhood
centers,
where
you
might
have
a
grocery
store
and
perhaps
a
drugstore
with
in-line
shops.
These
make
up
about
12
of
the
city's
retail
base
and
they
usually
serve
a
specific
neighborhood
with
residents
that
make
multiple
trips
per
week.
These
tend
to
be
the
strongest
types
of
retail
properties
in
our
current
environment,
from
a
financial
perspective,
your
strip
centers.
We
all
know
and
love
these.
These
lack
an
anchor
store.
F
And
you
know
the
reason
I
wanted
to
show.
These
is
because
we're
really
not
expecting
to
build
a
whole
lot
more
additional
standalone
retail
in
the
types
of
formats.
I
just
showed
you
instead,
what
we
expect
much
of
our
future
commercial
space
to
look
like
is
something
more
like
like
these
projects
here,
what
we
often
call
mixed
use,
where
you
you
know,
you
may
have
retail
commercial
space
on
the
bottom
floor
and
residential
or
office
above,
and
we
we
tend
to
think
of
this
as
being
like
a
new
thing.
F
But
of
course
it's
not
it's
a
very
traditional
development
typology,
but
you
know
it
fell
out
of
favor
for
decades
as
suburbanization
took
hold
in
america
and
we
kept
uses
really
separate
from
each
other.
But
the
city's
general
plan
does
prioritize
inclusion
of
commercial
space
in
new
structures
like
these.
For
a
number
of
reasons,
and
let's
take
a
quick
look
at
that,
so
you
know
all
these
reasons
we
we
know
about
that,
make
a
lot
of
sense
in
a
lot
of
places.
F
Just
to
call
attention
to
the
previous
slide
that
you
know
it's
not
the
only
reason
why
we
care
about
commercial
space
and
quite
a
lot
of
times
it
doesn't
come
into
play
at
all
and
then
also
just
kind
of
wanted
to
underline.
This
idea
that
you
know
commercial
doesn't
have
to
be
retail.
The
ground
floor
does
not
have
to
necessarily
be
a
retail
use,
could
be
an
office
use
and
keeping
in
mind
a
lot
of
these
areas
that
we're
targeting
for
growth.
F
F
F
Is
that
it
actually
attracted
a
medical
clinic
called
carbon
health,
that
is
a
growing,
a
growing
health
network
and
they
really
identified
a
lack
in
the
market
of
medical
services
in
downtown
and
kind
of
found,
the
right
spot
for
them
here
and
and
that's
some
sort
of
a
new
a
little
bit
of
a
new
trend
and
it'll
be
really
interesting
to
see.
You
know
if
that
continues.
F
Quetzal
gardens
is
a
really
beautiful,
affordable
project.
That's
reaching
completion
very
soon
out
in
the
alum
rock
corridor,
and
this
is
an
example
where
you
have
a
mission-driven
project
that
forms
an
alliance
with
a
mission-driven
ground
floor
tenant,
actually
a
couple
of
them
excite
credit
union,
which
has
recently
become
a
community
development.
Financial
institution
is
dedicated
towards
lending
in
underserved
areas
and
they
were
looking
for
a
location,
and
this
was
perfect
for
them.
F
F
Here's
a
project-
that's
not
in
san
jose,
but
what
we
found
is
you
can
do
things
like
grocery
stores
in
a
mixed
use
context
and
here's
an
example
of
that
in
santa
clara.
What
I
think
is
interesting
about
this
one
is:
it
has
surface
parking
and
actually
in
san
jose,
we
do
have
a
grocery
store
in
a
new
mixed
use.
F
Building
it's
the
news,
newish
zanatos
over
off
of
southwest
expressway,
and
it
also
has
a
little
bit
of
a
surface
parking
lot
and
we're
gonna
talk
about
why
that's
relevant
in
a
minute
and
then
sometimes
these
projects
can
struggle
to
fill
that
ground
floor
space
and-
and
this
is
an
example.
This
is
a
very
cool,
very
dense
project
on
north
first
street
that
has
just
a
little
bit
of
commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
they've
actually
been
working
really
hard
to
get
at
least,
but
they
haven't
been
able
to
fill
it.
F
And
what
we
hear
time
and
again
is
this
project
was
actually
built
without
any
parking
for
the
retail,
slash
commercial-
and
you
know
the
thinking
at
the
time
was:
that's
great.
You
won't
need
it.
There's
a
light.
Rail
stop
across
the
street
and
you've
got
all
these
residents
above.
But
what
actually
turned
out
is
the
tenants
do
want
it,
they
want
to
see
it,
they
want
to
have
access
to
it,
and
so
this
is
not
an
example
where
the
property
owner
is
just
not
trying.
F
F
F
But
things
can
go
well
too
on
this
front,
and
so,
if
you're
into
cars
and
wheels,
you
may
know
about
hubcap
city,
which
is
a
super
cool
business.
That's
been
in
this
in
san
jose
since
the
80s,
and
this
is
an
example
of
a
successful
relocation
where
things
came
together
for
this
tenant
and
what
was
key
for
them,
as
their
site
was
being
targeted
for
redevelopment
into
a
marriott
that
you
can
see.
F
F
The
city
has
undertaken
a
pilot
study
that
focuses
on
the
alum
rock
area,
where
a
number
of
projects
are
planned
on
sites
that
include
existing
businesses
and
it
included
a
survey
that
provided
us
some
important
insights
and
one
of
the
most
important
was
just
a
general
lack
of
understanding
of
the
development
process
among
the
small
business
owners.
In
the
area,
their
rights
and
responsibilities
under
a
lease-
and
you
know
the
reality-
is
that
local
government
has
limited
options
to
affect
outcomes
and
that
tenant
protections
for
businesses
simply
do
not
exist.
F
The
way
they
do
for
residents
and
in
general,
the
city
cannot
dictate
the
terms
between
a
landlord
and
a
tenant.
But
small
business
displacement
is
a
growing
area
of
interest
all
across
the
country.
There's
a
new
nationwide
network
centered
at
the
university
of
maryland,
that
is
sharing
information
on
strategies
and
resources.
F
Some
of
these
things
can
come
from
unlikely
places.
One
example
that
there
this
institute
has
been
working
on
is
a
voluntary
code
of
conduct
that
a
lender
can
actually
build
into
a
loan
that
spells
out
how
existing
tenants
are
treated
or
notified
about
plans
for
a
site,
and
these
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
we're
thinking
about.
These
are
not
recommendations,
just
some
of
the
sort
of
subject
areas
and
study
areas
that
are
on
our
radar
around
this.
F
This
issue
right-
and
one
of
the
most
important,
as
I
mentioned,
is
that
notification
or
sign
posting
function,
access
to
services
and
referrals
for
small
business
owners,
but
also,
let's
not
you,
know,
neglect
the
importance
of
preserving
a
diverse
supply
of
commercial
and
industrial
property
so
that
businesses
have
a
place
to
go
to
when
they
learn.
You
know
that
they
have
have
to
move
right.
F
E
Yeah,
I'm
just
curious
if,
if
there's
a
city
department
at
all,
that
really
helps
to
kind
of
help
these
businesses,
especially
the
small,
more
legacy
businesses
relocate,
is
there
anything
that
we
do
to
help
them
survive
this
this
development
crash?
I
ask
this
because,
as
we
do
our
jobs-
and
I
know
that
none
of
us
want
to
see
any
small
business
is
harmed
through
development,
but
I
I
think
it
happens
a
lot.
My
concern
is
that
we
should
do
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
to
keep
that
tax
base
in
the
city.
F
Because
I
get
those
calls
a
lot
of
what
are
we
gonna
do
for
this?
In
fact,
I
got
one
today
from
the
mayor's
office,
so
there
are
things
we
we
can
do
it's
I'll,
be
frank
with
you,
it's
it's
hard
for
us
as
a
direct
to
provide
direct
services
to
the
given
the
amount
of
need.
That's
out
there,
because
commissioner
cantrell
you're
right
it
happens.
It
does
happen
a
lot.
F
F
So
you
know
this
is
a
growing
area
of
our
of
our
direct
service
delivery
as
well,
but
we
can't
do
it
all
and
we
we
do
really
need
to
rely
on
our
partners.
One
of
the
areas
we're
really
trying
to
build
up
as
we
look
into
our
work
plan
for
next
year,
is
the
local
business
associations,
because
we
recognize
the
most
effective
folks
in
this
realm
exist
on
the
ground
in
nate
like
affected
neighborhoods.
F
However,
only
a
small
number
of
the
city's
commercial
corridors
have
you
know
formal
and
effective
business
associations,
and
so
we're
working
with
our
partners
to
look
at
growing
that
roster
and
kind
of
you
know
adding
force
multipliers
out
there.
That
can
do
this
work.
You
know
five
seven
days
a
week.
C
And
I
just
want
to
add
a
couple
things
to
that.
So
part
of
what
nathan
said
was
working
with
the
organizations
that
provide
technical
assistance
and
those
are
really
critical
being
able
to
have
access
to
no
cost
legal
services,
brokerage
services,
finance
services,
marketing
services,
so
that
businesses
can
take
advantage
of
those
services
to
help
them
be
stronger,
then
they're
more
resilient.
They
have
options
so
looking
at
small
business
resiliency
is
something
that's
really
important.
C
Nathan
went
through
the
ketzel
gardens
project
which
will
have
the
the
business
small
business
incubator
and,
again
that's
an
area
to
focus
on
for
the
small
businesses,
particularly
on
the
east
side,
and
during
the
course
of
the
pandemic.
Nathan
working
with
chris
wrote
and
received
a
economic
development.
C
Part
of
that
is
getting
the
city
to
focus
and
allow
dollars,
because
you
really
need
staffing
in
each
of
those
areas
to
support
and
continuity,
many
of
our
business
districts
because
they're
running
their
own
business,
it's
hard
to
for
them
to
build
up
to
a
time
that
there's
efficient
leadership
with
a
president
or
vice
president
or
other
members
of
business
association
to
until
they
gear
up
it's.
It's
not
necessarily
an
easy
thing
so
to
have
resource
to
help
that
get
done
and
is
is
a
really
important
investment.
C
F
C
Credit
union-
thank
you.
I
was
just
coming
up
with
union.
Sorry,
nathan
and
and
they've
now
become
a
cdfi,
a
community
development
finance
institute
and
they
are
helping
with
the
financing
for
the
quetzal
project
and
we're
already
talking
to
them
about
other
potential
projects
that
they
may
get
involved
in.
So
it
is
that
strength
of
resource
that
can
help.
E
Just
one
further
comment:
actually
I
know
that
the
example
had
hubcap
city,
which
is
in
my
community
and-
and
you
know,
as
I
reviewed
that
project
was
my
concern.
What's
gonna
happen
here
and
I
think
that's
a
great
example
of
when
a
good
landlord
actually
treats
their
customers
with
dignity
and
respect
and
help
them
how
everybody
can
win.
In
that
case,
everybody
won
not
only
did
that
a
building
that
was
an
eyesore
get
some
improvements.
E
Yeah
we'll
get
a
nice
new
location,
a
nice
new
hotel
nearby
and
things
like
that.
But
I
think
there's
got
to
be
more.
We
can
do
to
compel
landowners
and
developers
to
do
the
right
thing,
because
it
helps
the
entire
community.
There
should
not
be
victims
of
development.
That
just
seems
perverse,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
for
your
help.
For
your
talk,
I
appreciate
it.
E
Yes,
thank
you
vice
chair,
nancy
and
nathan.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
really
really
interesting.
I've
learned
a
lot
and
really
appreciate
it.
My
question
is
on
the
jobs,
housing
imbalance
in
the
city.
I
believe
we're
the
only
major
city
that
has
a
daytime
population,
that's
lower
than
our
nighttime
population,
and
really
really
important
for
the
city
for
the
budget
and
other
reasons
to
attract
more
jobs
to
the
city.
A
C
So
part
of
that
strategy,
which
you
know
something
that
we'll
talk
about
together
as
projects
come
forward,
is
making
sure
we
don't
convert
industrial
and
commercial
land
either
more
than
we
have,
or
at
least
without
a
really
hard
look
at
it.
So
we
need
jobs
and
you
all
we
would
love
to
come
back
and
and
look
at
the
numbers,
because
there's
no
one
right
way
to
look
at
the
numbers.
We
we
very
much
know
that,
but
the
the
jobs
land
in
san
jose
is
shrinking.
C
C
So
we
preciously
have
to
really
think
about
what
is
the
use
on
those
lands
and
try
to
make
sure
they're
available
for
jobs.
I
think
you
know
chris
this
still
a
transition
period.
For
me
I
was
so
used
to
working
with
chris
on
a
day
to
day
on
so
many
things,
but
manufacturing
is
one
of
those
really
first
loves,
because
almost
a
quarter
of
our
jobs
touch
in
san
jose
about
430,
000
jobs
and
almost
a
quarter
of
them
90.
Some
odd
thousand
are
still
related
to
manufacturing.
C
We
we
make
things
here
in
san
jose,
it's
it's
it's
terribly
cool
and
but
jobs
that
are
manufacturing
in
nature.
I
know
you
know
this,
but
just
to
make
it
plain:
they
pay
above
average
wages
and
they
have
benefits
and
they
have
career
ladders,
so
those
can
be
if
we
can
make
that
bridge
between
workforce
and
housing,
then
that
can
be
generational
wealth
change,
which
is
really
what
we
want
to
see
and
then
the
other
thing
that's
a
of
a
particular
note,
commissioner,
is
working
with
housing
and
planning.
C
We
really
want
to
embed
one
of
the
innovations
that
we
hope
to
embed
in
san
jose
is
that
we
never
talk
about
affordable
housing
by
itself
that
we
always
talk
about
affordable
housing
and
jobs
that
they're
one
to
bound
with
the
other
together,
because
not
that's
not
the
case
for
everybody,
I
I
get
it.
There
are
some
cases
we
can't
imagine.
Necessarily
everybody
in
affordable
housing
is
going
to
go
to
work
within
a
year,
but
that
is
something
we
can
do
more
in
and
just
on
a
humanitarian
level
as
well
as
a
work
level.
C
So
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
less
time
in
this
year,
but
a
lot
of
times
with
work
to
future
and
nathan
and
chris
former
shop,
the
business
development
business
retention
in
looking
at
health
care.
Looking
at
manufacturing.
Looking
at
several
of
the
other
clusters
that
are
growth,
oriented
I.t,
of
course
you
know
a
number
of
people
say
to
us:
we
need
to
have
brown
engineers
and
we
agree.
So
what
are
we
doing
in
order
to
facilitate
that
which
also
helps
our
tech
companies?
C
So
so,
there's
a
lot
of
targeted
industry
work
and
a
lot
of
that
is
working
with
companies
to
make
a
bigger
commitment
than
they
have
in
the
past,
because
companies
who
are
running
their
business
will
often
say
well,
you
guys
got
to
do
that
where
it's
not
our
job
but
hopefully
like
google,
is
helping
us
in
some
regard
there
it's
time
for
a
deeper
rooted
participation,
including
by
job
oriented
companies
nathan.
What
what
what
did
I
leave
out.
F
F
You
know
and
then
having
you
know,
we
said
in
the
prezi
having
sort
of
adequate
supply
of
of
like
real
estate
stuff,
like
different
food
groups,
for
businesses,
because
different
folks
need
different,
strokes
right
and
you
know
we
have
edenvale
for
that
type
of
company
and
we
have
a
monterey
corridor
for
those
types
of
companies
and
no
yeah,
like
our
jobs
picture,
isn't
where
it
should
be
from
a
jobs
to
residence
ratio.
But
we
have
something
a
lot
of
other
cities,
don't
which
is
these
options
that
are
just.
E
Commissioner
torrence,
thank
you,
chair,
okay,
I
know
we're
running
short
on
time
here,
so
I
just
have
a
quick
comment:
kind
of
going
back
to
what
my
colleague
kentrell,
commissioner
cantrell
was
saying
about
small
small
business
questions
and
helping
them.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
the
group
silicon
valley,
small
business
development
center.
I
don't
think
that
that
one
was
mentioned,
I'm
sure
nancy
and
nathan
are
aware
of
it,
but
I
just
personal
anecdote
I
reached
out
as
a
small
business
owner
who
just
hired
my
first
two
employees
and
I
was
really
struggling.
E
I
know
right
knowing
how
to
do
payroll.
I
was
it
was.
It
was
so
much
more
complicated
than
I
thought,
and
so
I
was
just
googling.
I
need
help.
I
need
help
and
that
group
popped
up
and
I
reached
out,
and
they
gave
me
free,
counseling
and
led
me
to
someone
to
help
with
that.
Oh
wow
kind.
I've
worked
it
out
and
now
my
employees
are
getting
paid
streamlined,
so
that
was
huge
huge.
E
E
Yeah
I
wanted
to
ask
planning
how
do
you
I
mean.
Obviously
we
we
hear
what
you
know.
Nathan
and
nancy
are
saying
in
regards
to
concerns
with
these
small
businesses.
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
there
any
conditions
that
you
all
put
in
place
in
regards
to
helping
either
retain
or
relocate
these
small
businesses?
When
a
big
proposal
like
this
comes
up,
you
know
early
outreach,
I
mean
how
and
when
do
you
integrate
that
in
the
planning
process?
That's
just
one
of
my
questions.
E
So
I
know
a
lot
of
artists,
local
artists,
and
so
I
believe
you
could
definitely
beautify
the
city,
and
you
know
you
see
all
these
vacant
walls
that
I
would
like
to
see,
murals
or
or
different
art
pieces
or
commissions.
I
know
that
there
was,
I
see
around
the
neighborhood
that
there
was
some
paintings.
E
I'd
really
like
to
see
that
and
wait
some
of
the
small
business
owners.
I
know
just
helping
with
safety
of
the
people
that
either
use
the
business
and
the
people
that
that
are
the
tenants
there
in
regards
to
because
of
the
trash,
unfortunately,
that
I
see
now
like
a
sidewalk
steam
cleaning
projects.
How
are
you
like
with
these
areas
that
are
more
concentrated
with
like
homeless?
I'd
like
to
see
some?
Some
of
those
tenants
be
helped
more.
So
those
are
just
my
comments.
E
C
Just
a
few
things
if
I
might,
and
and
nate
or
chris
wherever
you
want
to
jump
in
switch
hitter
there
on
business
and
small
business.
We
as
as
nathan
reminded
you,
vic
farley,
had
come
to
you
and
and
presented
work
on
small
business
displacement.
That
was
a
a
pilot
on
alum
rock
and
we've
been
learning
a
lot
from
that,
and
one
of
the
things
we're
we're
working
on
or
trying
to
work
toward
is
a
small
business
displacement
policy,
which
is
something
of
course
moving
forward.
C
We
would
work
closely
with
planning
and,
of
course,
the
attorneys
wherever
vera
is
and
we
we
need
to
be
really
strategic
and
cautious
right,
because
we
we
don't,
admittedly,
have
a
ton
of
money
to
put
into
this.
So
we're
we're
doing
the
research
to
learn
what
other
places
do,
because
certainly
there
are
many
other
cities
that
that
are
dealing
with
this
as
nathan
mentioned
time,
asking
or
demanding
from
developers
that
they
give
the
businesses
time,
which
is
one
of
the
things
that's
just
key.
C
You
know
something
commissioner,
torrence,
like
a
business
who
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
time.
You
really
want
to
know
who
you're
reaching
out
to
has
something
valuable
to
offer.
So
so
on
that
level
it
you
know
we
have
a
a
housing,
anti-displacement
policy,
it's
it's
time
for
a
compendium
to
a
small
business
displacement
policy
and
and
then
beyond
that
love
to
off
offline,
introduce
you
to
michael
ogilvy,
who's,
the
public
art
director,
and
he
he's
awesome.
C
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
can,
if
you
put
on
your
calendar
november
5th,
I
believe
it's
5
30.
sonic
runway
has
been
installed,
reinstalled
out
in
front
of
city
hall
and
it'll
be
november
5th,
as
it's
its
official
turn
on
date
and
it'll,
be
with
us
for
at
least
seven
years,
so
they
have
re-engineered
it.
It's
beautiful,
installed,
ada,
compliant
and
and
looking
really
good.
So
would
love
to
you
know
again.
C
E
A
A
H
H
Nathan,
nathan,
the
slider
I
was
hoping
you
to
show
again,
is
the
one
that
talks
about
the
benefits
of
mixed
use
and
ground
floor
activation
talks
about
place,
making
oh
yeah,
okay
hold
on
cool
yeah,
and,
while
he's
going
to
that,
I
just
want
to
thank
commissioner
contrell
for
your
comments
about
displacement
and
how
we
can
find
ways
to
keep
businesses
when
new
development
happens.
It's
it's
something
that
the
work
I
do
at
catalyze
sv.
H
When
our
members
score
projects,
we
frequently
ask
developers
like
a
project
on
west
san
carlos
if
they
could
bring
back
the
pupusa
leah
that
had
been
there
for
years
or
the
taqueria
on
ray
street.
So
those
are
very
challenging
conversations
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
the
playing
commission
weigh
in
on
those
from
project
to
project
or
generally,
as
you
did
today,
so
appreciate
that,
and
also
want
to
thank
nathan
and
nancy
who
are
working
with
the
berryessa
flea
market
vendors,
to
try
to
support
them.
H
They
are
absolutely
in
jeopardy
of
being
displaced
from
working
and
living
in
our
community
and
truth,
be
told
we're
asking
the
city
to
do
even
more.
To
try
to
prevent
that
displacement,
so
thank
you,
nancy
and
nathan,
and
your
team
for
working
on
that,
and
that's
a
huge,
huge
concern
here
in
our
community
that
we
appreciate
the
planning
commission
continuing
to
look
at
so
on
this
slide.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
benefits
that
I
think
nathan
absolutely
wisely
talked
about
when
it
comes
to
ground
floor
activation.
H
I
think
another
trend
that
we're
starting
to
see
at
catalyze
sv
and
some
of
the
developments
we
work
on
is
that
non-profits
or
community
rooms
are
also
opportunities
for
other
ways
to
activate
a
space,
and
so
that
can
be
really
really
beneficial
to
preventing.
Some
of
that
displacement
and
nathan
presented
that
great
example
of
somos
mayfair,
showing
up
in
ketzel
gardens
on
alum
rock
avenue
so
having
non-profits
be
able
to
be
in
space,
is
really
great.
So
I
I
hope,
that's
something
you
all
can
continue
to
think
about
and
consider
as
you're
going
forward.
H
The
other
thing
I'd
say
is,
you
know,
has
the
10th
largest
city
in
the
country
we've
got
to
continue
to
push
for
mixed-use
neighborhoods.
They
exist
all
across
the
country
in
large
cities
like
ours,
and
I,
I
think,
of
a
neighborhood
like
southeast
dc.
I
used
to
live
in
dc
20
years
ago
and
that
city
has
changed
a
lot
and
a
neighborhood
like
southeast
has
building
after
building
after
building
8
to
15
stories
with
active
ground
floors.
H
So
when
developers
tell
you
that
that
can't
be
done
in
san
jose,
I
would
say
it
is
being
done
in
every
city
in
america
and
it's
done
successfully
and
it
is
absolutely
contributing
to
the
improved
quality
of
life
in
the
community.
So
I
hope
that
the
city
officials
and
plan
commissioners
and
community
members
will
continue
to
support
mixed-use
development
as
a
key
to
unlocking
a
better
san
jose
thanks
for
the
time
today,
commissioners
and
staff.
Thank
you
alex.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioners,
for
your
service.
I
sincerely
appreciate
it
commenting
on
behalf
of
preservation
action
council
in
a
pretty
broad
context
here.
I
specifically
also
want
to
note
the
comments
by
commissioner
contrell
about
the,
and
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
color,
but
you
know
we
don't
want
victims
of
development
and
I'm
certain
that
everybody
that's
on
the
commission
feels
the
same
way,
but
unfortunately,
what
happens
with
too
many
of
these
projects.
E
Is
we
hear
the
term
from
you
know
the
new
developers
that
it
doesn't
pencil
out
unless
we
get
the
dropping
of
in-law
fees
for
affordable
housing,
or
we
have
to
ignore.
You
know
the
goals
that
the
city
has
the
general
goals
the
city
has
for
its
cultural
preservation,
historic
preservation
or
parking
or
anything
else,
and
I
just
would
challenge
the
commission
and
staff
to
work
really
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
not
easily
written
off.