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From YouTube: AUG 11, 2021 | Planning Commission
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City of San José, California
Planning Commission meeting of August 11, 2021.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
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of
the
public
may
participate
by
following
the
instructions
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on
the
agenda.
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may
also
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and
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During
summary
of
hearing
procedure,
we
will
review
how
the
public
may
provide
comment
during
today's
session.
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City
staff
will
call
out
names
of
the
public
who
identified
the
items
they
want
to
speak
on.
You
may
identify
yourself
by
the
raised
hand,
feature
on
zoom
click,
star
9
on
your
phone
or
you
may
call
408,
535-3505
or
email
planning,
support
staff
at
san
jose
ca.gov
and
identify
your
name
phone
number
and
what
item
or
items
you
would
like
to
speak
on,
as
your
name
is
called
city
staff
will
unmute
you
to
speak
after
we
confirm
your
audio
is
working.
Your
allotted
time
will
begin.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
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Speakers
using
a
translator
will
have
four
minutes
after
the
public
testimony
the
applicant
and
appellant
may
make
closing
remarks
for
an
additional
five
minutes.
Planning.
Commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
speakers
response
to
commissioner
questions
will
not
reduce
the
speaker's
time
allowance
staff
will
unmute
the
speaker
to
respond
to
the
commissioner.
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The
planning
commission's
actions
on
rezoning,
pre-zonings
general
plan
amendments
and
code
amendments
is
only
advisory
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
public
hearings
on
these
items.
Section
20.120.400
of
the
municipal
code
provides
the
procedures
for
legal
to
the
city
council
on
rezonings
and
pre-zonings.
D
With
that
we
will
now
go
to
public
comment
staff.
Do
we
have
any
speakers
for
public
comment
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
planning
commission
agenda
and
let
me
be
very
clear
to
anyone
that
may
be
in
the
queue
this
is
for
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
If
you
do
speak
on
an
item
that
is
on
the
agenda,
I
will
respectfully
have
to
cut
off
your
time
so
that
you
can
go
to
the
allotted
time.
So
with
that
jennifer
do
we
have
any
public
comment.
D
D
Doesn't
look
like
it
all
right?
No,
we
don't.
Thank
you,
robert
with
that.
I
will
now
move
to
item
for
the
consent
calendar
I'm
going
to
rearrange
the
order,
the
batting
order
on
this
item
and
pull
out
an
item
so
that
we
can
vote
on
that
item
on
its
own
and
then
we
will
vote
on
the
rest
per
advice
of
council.
D
F
Item
4c,
I
I
do
own
some
stock
in
apple,
which
is
one
of
the
companies
we're
going
to
review.
So
I'm
going
to
recuse
myself
leave
the
meeting
at
this
time
and
my
understanding
is
staff.
Will
reinvite
me
when
the
item
is
concluded?
Thank
you.
D
C
I
do
that
just
brought
to
mind.
I
think
I
need
to
recuse
myself
as
well.
I'm
so
sorry.
I
didn't
realize
that
so
we'll
we'll
be
off
for
this
item
and.
E
Commissioner
torrance,
but
could
you
please
state
for
the
record
what
your
conflict
is.
E
Okay
and
it's
over
two
thousand
dollars
in
value
correct,
that's
the
threshold
for
not
being
able
to
vote.
It
would
be.
The
current
value
would
need
to
be
over
two
thousand
dollars.
Okay,.
G
D
D
D
J
D
I'll
second,
it
so
at
this
point,
let's,
let's
take
a
roll
call
vote
for
continuing
item
4c
o'neil.
I
casey
all
right,
cavallaro.
C
A
E
And
chair
bonilla,
we
need
to
tell
them
that
they're
going
to
need
to
abstain
at
the
next
meeting,
because
we
didn't
have
a
quorum.
K
So
question:
if
could
staff
send
like
like
emphasize
in
the
email
for
the
next
meeting
about
attendance?
Because
if
we're
gonna
have
three
people
out,
then
we
need
to
have
almost
everybody
else
in
attendance.
D
E
Well,
what
can
happen
is
that
there
is
a
rule
of
necessity,
there's
a
rule
of
necessity
under
the
political
reform
act
that
I
would
have
to
review
again.
That
allows
us
to
basically
draw
straws,
and
one
of
the
people
can
probably
vote,
but
it
has
to
be
where
literally,
everybody
is
not
there
who
could
vote?
You
know
it
would
be,
for
example,
if
you,
if
you
have
six
people
who
had
to
abstain,
the
other
the
other
thing
too
is
it
could
be,
kicked
up
to
council
to
make
the
decision
right,
anyways,
no,
actually
you're,
not.
E
This
is
actually
final.
Adoption
of
a
resolution,
the
only
time
that
these
the
only
time
that
these
go
to
council.
These
annual
reviews
of
development
agreements
go
to
council
is
if
someone
is
out
of
compliance.
D
E
Now,
what
we,
what
we
can
do
is
if
we
get
them
back,
is
because
we're
not
giving
money
to
anybody
and-
and
we
we
would
otherwise
be
legally
required
to
take
this
first.
If
we
were,
if
there
was
money
in
the
game,
and
these
people
were
in
all
of
these
people
under
section
four
were
competing
for
the
same
sunday
like
you
do
for
cdbc
grants
and
other
things
we
have
to
take
them
first,
but
because
that's
not
the
case
here.
D
D
C
Okay:
okay,
confirming
that
with
oliverio
here
in
attendance,
we
do
meet
quorum
and
I
also
did
call
the
other
commissioners,
but
unfortunately
it
went
straight
to
voicemail,
so
I'm
going
to
send
them
an
email,
but
I
did
leave
them
a
voicemail
to
rejoin
now.
D
Yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
keep
it
deferred
before
we
start
kind
of
trying
to
do
gymnastics
and
stuff.
But
thank
you
so
with
that
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
floor
by
lord
noir
second
by
monia,
and
we
did
we
have
we
take
it
a
vote.
No
right,
we
did
take
a
vote.
We
did
all
right,
so
it's
approved
so
it's
deferred.
So
that's
right
all
right
so
now
the
question
is
we're
just
gonna
move
forward,
then
with
the
meeting
until
they
join
on.
So
let's
now
go
to
the
consent.
D
Calendar
we're
gonna
be
looking
at
items
for
a
and
b
jennifer.
Is
there
any
public
comment
regarding
the
consent,
calendar.
K
C
So
if
we
could
have
the
slideshow
move
forward,
because
we're
still
on
item
3b-
which
I
believe
is
the
deferral.
C
Perhaps
chair,
you
might
have
your
numbers
wrong.
I
think
we're
on
items
three
yeah
we're
on
consent
calendar
at
this
time,
so
item
three
b
and
the
minutes
have
not
been
that
has
not
gone
through
the
this
decision.
Making.
J
D
G
D
D
L
D
We
can
move
forward,
though,
even
though
the
the
roll
call
isn't
on
the
screen
vera.
E
Then
put
the
votes
into
the
record,
who
voted
how
and
I
think
you've
already
done
that,
because
everybody's
answered
right,
if
you
could
just
yeah,
I
think
we're
okay.
D
B
Good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
james
han
project
manager
with
the
planning
division.
First
staff
wanted
to
correct
a
typo
in
the
staff
report
and
resolution
in
the
multiple
sections
it
references
the
demolition
of
three
residential
units.
It
should
have
stated
four
residential
units,
one
single
family
house,
one
in
a
mixed-use
building
and
two
as
part
of
a
duplex.
B
B
The
project
conforms
with
all
applicable
development
standards
for
the
downtown
primary
commercial
zoning
district
and
a
joint
community
meeting
and
environmental
scoping
meetings
held
to
discuss
the
project
on
september
24th
2020,
an
on-site
sign,
was
also
posted
on
this
project
frontage.
This
hearing
was
noticed
to
all
owners
and
tenants
of
properties
within
a
1000
feet,
radius
of
the
subject
site,
as
analyzed
in
detail
in
the
staff
report.
B
The
project
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan
zoning
code
and
applicable
city
council
policies
to
develop
a
project
in
an
identified
growth
area
with
appropriate
land
use
and
density.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
that
planning
commission
recommend
the
city
council
approve
the
project
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
environmental
planner
rima
mahamud.
M
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
is
rima
mahamud
environmental
review,
planner
with
planning
building
and
code
enforcement
in
response
to
the
correction
that
the
existing
residential
units
are
for
and
not
three.
As
stated
in
the
draft
supplemental
environmental
impact
report,
I'd
like
to
state
for
the
record
that
it
does
not
change
the
environmental
analysis
in
the
draft
scir.
M
As
stated
before,
the
city
prepared
a
draft
seir
to
the
downtown
strategy.
2040
eir
for
this
marriott
town
place
suites
project.
The
decision
to
prepare
an
eir
was
made
because
the
buildings
on
site
will
be
demolished
under
the
project
and
some
of
the
on-site
buildings
were
determined
to
qualify
as
candidate
city
landmark
historic
structures.
M
M
An
eir
scoping
meeting
to
receive
comments
from
the
public
was
held
on
september,
24
2020.
and
the
project,
and
the
nlp
were
presented
to
the
historic
landmarks
commission.
On
october
7
2020.,
the
draft
scir
identified
a
significant
and
unavoidable
impact
on
historic
resources
because
of
the
demolition
that
would
occur
with
implementation
of
the
project.
M
Although
mitigation
measures
were
developed
to
record
these
resources,
the
impact
of
the
project
on
historic
resources
in
the
city
would
remain
significant
and
unavoidable
if
the
project
were
to
be
implemented,
as
required
by
sequence,
the
draft
scir
identified
alternatives
to
the
project.
The
alternative
that
resulted
in
avoidance
of
the
significant
impacts
of
the
project
was
preservation,
alternative
four,
which
would
preserve
all
historic
structures
on
site
and
would
construct
a
reduced
sized
hotel
around
these
existing
structures.
M
M
I
H
Yes,
we
need
share,
screen
ability
there
we
go
all
right.
Can
everyone
see
that.
D
H
All
right
we're
all
set
good
evening
and
thank
you
planning,
commissioners
and
city
planning
staff
and
neighbors
for
participating
in
tonight.
We're
excited
to
present
a
new
marriott
hotel
project.
This
is
a
project
by
urban
catalyst.
Studio
current
is
the
design
architect.
Berger
dent
mourinhos,
the
architect
of
record
kimley
horn
is
the
landscape.
Architect
and
cea
civil
engineering
associates
is
a
civil
engineer.
We're
excited
to
present
this
new
marriott
hotel
project.
H
It's
an
eight-story
building,
built
of
podium
construction,
three
levels
of
concrete
over
at
the
lower
base
and
five
levels
of
wood
frame.
H
H
H
H
One
of
the
project
goals
is
to
activate
the
streetscape,
which
falls
in
line
with
the
deerdon
station
plan,
vision
to
create
a
lively,
pedestrian
and
bicycle-friendly
environment.
We're
widening
the
front
sidewalk
along
west
san
carlo
street
to
15
feet
with
guests
loading
and
unloading
in
front
and
we've
added
landscape
planters
along
the
front
of
the
building.
H
H
H
H
Many
of
these
rooms
look
out
to
a
lushly,
landscaped
landscape
court
and
it's
open
to
the
sky
level.
Eight
is
the
next
image.
This
is
the
top
floor
of
the
hotel
once
again,
some
amenity
spaces
along
the
west
san
carlos
frontage,
include
an
a
rooftop
deck,
an
open-air
lounge
and
a
couple
of
meeting
rooms,
and
the
remainder
of
the
floor
is
hotel
guest
rooms
as
well.
H
H
The
architectural
concept
incorporates
brick
at
the
lower
level
and
a
corrugated
metal
accent,
detail
on
the
corner
of
the
building
and
both
wood
and
plaster
on
the
upper
body
of
the
building.
These
materials
reflect
the
history
and
cite
the
history
of
the
site
and
rich
diversity
of
the
neighborhood.
H
D
Thank
you
for
that.
With
that
do
we
have
any
public
comment
on
this
item.
K
N
Thank
you.
My
name
is
paul
soto,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
san
jose.
I
have
15
ancestors
buried
at
oak
hill
cemetery
and
I'd
like
to
announce
at
least
that
the
opportunity
housing
memo
that
dev
davis
was
trying
to
put
through
rules
got
cancelled
out.
One
of
the
primary
reasons
it
got
canceled
out
is
because
of
the
historical
injustices
that
have
happened
in
the
city
with
respect
to
housing,
and
so
what
my
challenge
is
to
this
community
and
it
has
to
do
with
housing
like
this-
is
that
we
need.
N
We
need
an
objective,
objective
definition
of
what
equity
means
within
the
context
of
these
conversations,
because
using
a
just
throwing
the
word
around
and
thinking
that
people
know
what
that
means.
It's
it's
not
working.
The
subjective
definition
of
it
is
out
it's
just
not
going
to
work
anymore,
and
so
we
were
already
taking
a
stand,
and
this
was
significant
because
the
logic
and
the
reasoning-
and
I
would
suggest
people
listen
to
what
happened
today,
because
the
logic
and
the
reasoning
is
being
centered
on
that.
N
I'm
not
going
to
be
satisfied
until
I
got
section
8
housing
built
in
willow,
glen
and
people
are
permitted
to
have
pit
bulls
in
the
front
yard.
That's
justice,
that's
equity,
because
the
the
wealth
that
has
been
accumulated
in
that
neighborhood
is
illegitimate
because
it
was
based
on
a
racist
policy
that
created
sausages
in
all
of
the
conditions
in
salsa
brothers,
willow,
glen
profited
from.
N
F
Good
evening
my
name
is
brian
flynn
from
the
law,
firm,
lozo
jury
here
on
behalf
of
laborers
international
union
of
north
america,
local
union
270.
elena,
is
requesting
that
the
commission
refrain
from
recommending
approval
of
the
project
at
this
time,
because
the
eir
fails
to
address
the
project's
significant
impacts
on
air
quality.
F
Leona
submitted
a
comment
on
the
draft
eir
that
raised
serious
concerns
about
the
increased
cancer
risk
to
future
hotel
employees
resulting
from
off-gassing
of
formaldehyde
from
composite
wood
products.
A
leona's
indoor
air
quality
expert
calculated
that
the
increased
cancer
risk
to
future
employees
exceeded
the
applicable
sequence
significance
thresholds
of
10
in
1
million.
F
The
city
did
respond
in
the
final
eir
and
claimed
that
the
project
would
comply
with
cal,
green
building
standards
and
formaldehyde
regulations
from
the
air
resources
board.
However,
the
formaldehyde
risk
calculations
already
assumed
that
the
project
would
comply
with
those
standards
and
still
found
the
impact
to
be
significant.
F
The
formaldehyde
standards
set
by
the
air
resources
board
is
just
a
floor.
Not
a
ceiling
of
what
can
be
required
under
sequa
and
eir
must
address
this
issue.
The
city
also
claimed
that
the
impact
of
formaldehyde
emissions
did
not
need
to
be
addressed
because
sql
only
requires
the
analysis
of
a
project's
impact
on
the
environment.
F
D
H
D
H
Tom
are
you
still
on?
I
think
tom
had
probably
a
couple
comments
on
public
benefit
of
the
project.
I
can
go
to
that
line.
I
I'm
still
here
thanks
jeff
great
job,
getting
through
that
presentation
in
five
minutes
there
yeah,
I
think,
the
last.
The
last
thing
we
have
to
comment
on
is
we
did
want
to
highlight
the
some
of
the
community
benefits,
so
I'm
tom
holt
the
development
manager
for
urban
catalyst
on
this
project.
We
do
have
a
pretty
full
development
team
here
to
answer
questions.
If
there
are,
if
there
are
questions
that
come
up,
we
want
to
talk
about
these
community
benefits.
I
One
community
benefit
is
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
policies
of
the
2040
general
plan
and
these
app
both
plans
encourage
or
envision
downtown
san
jose
as
a
vibrant
place
for
people
to
live,
work
and
visit.
Secondly,
the
project
is
anticipated
to
generate
at
least
1.3
million
dollars
annually
and
transit
occupancy
tax
revenue.
I
This
one
is
a
big
one.
Transit
occupancy
tax
revenue
is
one
of
the
largest
sources
of
funds
for
the
art
and
cultural
community
in
san
jose,
which
is
really
necessary
to
create
a
vibrant
downtown
area
and
a
third
benefit
is
the
community
asked
for
a
signalized
intersection
along
west
san,
carlos
and
urban
catalyst
has
agreed
to
pay
for
that
signalized
intersection
voluntarily.
I
D
D
M
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
so
staff
did
respond
to
the
letter
from
the
from
mr
flynn
in
the
draft
scir,
in
accordance
with
the
california
supreme
court
december
2015,
opinion
sequel
is
concerned
with
the
impacts
of
a
project
on
the
environment
and
not
the
impacts
of
the
existing
environment
on
the
project's
future
users,
unless
the
risk
exacerbates
the
environmental
hazards
or
risks
that
already
exist.
D
C
Hi,
I
have
a
question
related
to
parking
and
I
understand
that
the
required
parking
is
only
62
spots,
but
this
project
is
recommending
103.
and
I
just
wonder
why
so
many
additional
spots.
I
think
that
one
of
the
goals
of
the
general
plan
is
to
try
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars
and
into
public
transit,
bikes,
walking,
etc,
and,
to
add,
you
know,
essentially
40
extras
parking
spaces.
I
I
want
to
understand
the
justification
and
and
sort
of
what
d.o.t
sort
of
thinks
about
the
added
spaces.
I
Yeah,
I
could
take
that
one,
so
the
project
really
does
facilitate
a
positive
pedestrian
experience.
Currently,
the
sidewalk
along
west
san
carlos
is
is
only
about
nine
feet,
wide
we're
going
to
be
setting
back
the
building
about
six
feet
so
that
the
sidewalk
will
be
about
15
feet
wide.
So
we
think
that
that
will
significantly
enhance
the
pedestrian
experience.
I
I
So
we
think
that
this
will
be
a
pedestrian
focused
building,
but
for
a
building
like
this,
our
experienced
operator
has
been
strongly
recommending
well
initially
recommending
one-to-one
parking.
We've
significantly
reduced
that
recommendation,
but
we
feel
that
this
number
of
spaces
is
necessary
to
satisfy
the
demand
of
the
guests
and
also
minimize
overflow
parking
from
the
hotel
use
in
the
neighborhood.
C
I
do
have
one
additional
question,
so
you
know
this
commission
approved
two
other
hotel
projects
that
were
then
subsequently
denied
by
the
city
council.
What
makes
this
project
different
than
those
two
kind
of
hotel
projects
that
were
also
in
the
dsap
area?
J
Do
you
know
which
of
the
other
two
parties
that
were
denied
the
only
one
I'm
familiar
with,
is
the
stockton
project,
but
that
wasn't
in
the
dsap?
They
don't
call
any
other
hotels
ever
recently.
C
Yes,
I
thought
both
of
the
hotel
projects
along
stockton
were
were
either
denied
or
postponed.
Perhaps.
J
G
We
improved,
we
approved
one
and
and
the
council
denied
another.
J
Yeah
she
said
they
were
too
denied.
I
just
wasn't
sure
which
was
the
other
one.
So
yeah
there
were
the
one
was
mainly
about
you
had
issues
with
about
the
jcc
mix
of
the
neighborhood,
and
there
is
another
application
in
with
a
more
scaled-down
version
of
that
hotel.
C
You
and
I
apologize
for
my
lighting.
I
was
a
project
manager
on
the
615
stockton
hotel.
C
Included
a
general
plan
amendment,
which
was
another
reason
why
the
city
council
denied
it
they
chose
to
deny
the
general
plan
amendment.
It
was
changing
a
portion
of
the
project
site
from
the
rn
residential
neighborhood
land
use.
Sorry,
general
plan
designation
to
commercial,
and
it
was
outside
the
growth
areas.
K
Thank
you,
chair,
just
to
speak
on
community
benefits
that
came
up
during
the
second
half
of
the
presentation.
I
mean
complying
with
the
general
plan
and
paying
the
hotel
occupancy
tax.
Those
are
just
basic
requirements.
I
mean
if
the
project
didn't
meet
those
we
would
be
obligated
to
recommend
denial,
but
I
want
to
that
being
said,
call
out
the
signalization
improvements
on
west
san
carlos,
that's
really
important.
K
I
go
visit
all
the
project
sites
before
we
have
these
meetings
and
when
I
went
out
to
this
site
it
was
pretty
scary
getting
across
the
street
to
you
know,
get
a
view
of
it
and
it's
pretty
big
road
with
no
signalization
at
all.
So
I'm
really
glad
to
see
that
as
part
of
this
project.
D
Okay,
commissioner
ornelas
and
then
commissioner
olivario.
A
Hi,
I
I
think
the
project
looks
fantastic.
It
looks
like
a
really
nice
design
because
the
children's
discovery
museum's
not
too
far,
you
might
have
a
lot
of
guests
from
you
know
the
children's
discovery
museum.
So
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
have
liked
to
see
is
a
little
bit
more
amenities
for
families
like
like
a
pool
or
a
playground
for
kids
or
something
to
complement.
Some
of
the
large
land
uses
better
recreation
in
the
in
the
area.
A
That's
just
some
feedback
and
another
concern
that
I
had
was
specifically
in
arima.
Maybe
you
could
chime
in
on
this
in
regards
to
sequa
and
the
historical
structures
that
were
there,
so
I
know
that
there
was
some
mitigation
measures
put
in
place.
A
Can
you
let
me
know
what
those
mitigation,
because
I
was
concerned
that
these
land
marks
were
going
to
get
demolished?
Is
there
any
way
that
they
could
actually
be
removed
like
to
the
kelly
park?
I
mean,
I
know
that
construction
material
has
quadrupled
recently
and
maybe
repurposed
some
of
that
wood
or
or
somehow
salvaged.
Some
of
that.
M
So
historic
structures
can
be
moved
to
other
locations,
but
there
are
certain
guidelines
in
terms
of
if
you're
going
to
move
a
historic
structure,
you
need
to
move
it
to
a
place
that
is
comparable
in
terms
of
location
and
these
historic
structures
were
specific
to
its
current
location.
That's
where
the
importance
of
the
historic
value
comes
in,
because
they
are
part
of
the
the
commerce
that
happened
in
san
jose
at
the
turn
of
the
century.
M
The
applicant
did
try
to
find
alternate
locations
for
these
the
three
structures
and
they
were
unable
to
find
a
suitable
location
that
the
city
would
approve
of.
So
the
applicant
did
do
their
due
diligence
on
that
part.
A
M
Sorry
yeah,
I
can
speak
to
that.
So
these
are
pretty
standard
mitigation
measures
whenever
a
historic
building
is
being
demolished,
there's
recordation
that
would
take
place,
there'd
be
pictures,
pictures
that
would
be
taken.
The
history
would
be
noted
and
they
will
be
filed
in
usually
it's
in
history,
san
jose,
where
a
lot
of
this
information
will
be
saved.
M
So
those
are
pretty
standard
measures
that
are
used
for
any
time
that
a
historic
building
or
structure
is
being
demolished.
I
Yeah
and
rima,
if
I
could
add
as
also
part
of
the
mitigation
measures
for
this
project,
so
as
you
mentioned,
we
did
reach
out
to
a
number
of
different
organizations
trying
to
find
a
suitable
receiver
site
for
the
buildings.
So
we
reached
out
to
history,
san
jose,
san
jose
parks
and
rec
and
others,
and
at
the
time
we
weren't
able
to
find
a
suitable
receiver
site.
But
part
of
the
mitigation
measures
are
that
we
do
need
to
advertise
these
buildings
as
available
for
relocation.
D
That,
commissioner,
before
you
go
on,
let
me
just
explain
something
to
the
public.
The
reason
mr
holt
was
able
to
jump
into
the
conversation
is
because
we
have
not
closed
the
public
hearing
precisely
for
these
opportunities,
so
that
commissioners
can
have
questions
answered
by
both
staff
and
the
applicant.
However,
I
will
ask
the
applicant
to
please
raise
your
hand
and
give
me
the
space
to
call
you
out
that
way.
We
can
keep
the
flow
and
the
decorum
going.
Commissioner.
Les
weiss
go
ahead.
A
I
did
know
in
the
report
the
staff
report
that
it
said
not
full
commercial
kitchen.
I
I
saw
that
a
couple
times,
so
there
will
be
no
restaurant
or
no.
I
I
thought
like
for
something
of
that
size
and
magnitude.
Why
wouldn't
there
be
a
full-size
kitchen?
I
don't
know:
if
was
there
not
a
commercial
kitchen
in
the
facility.
A
D
D
Okay
with
that,
I
will
now
move
on
to
commissioner
olivario.
G
Question
for
the
applicant
on
the
signalized
intersection
those
aren't
inexpensive.
How
much
is
that?
I'm
assuming
it's
in
the
six
figures.
I
Yeah
for
this
project,
I
I
think
the
commitment
is
55.
000
urban
catalyst
also
has
two
other
projects
that
have
been
approved
in
the
immediate
neighborhood.
Those
two
other
projects
have
also
committed
to
contributing
the
same.
So
it's
about
160
000
for
the
signalized
intersection.
G
Got
it
so
the
project
that
the
planning
commission
approved
a
month
ago
across
the
street
roughly
it's
about
the
same
stature
size
et
cetera,
those
are
polling
funds
to
pay
for
the
signalized
intersection,
that's
right
right
and
then,
when
you
provide
a
you
know,
a
very
good
public,
good
or
a
gift
with
a
wide
sidewalk,
and
I
think
if
pedestrians
recognize,
when
it's
a
narrow,
sidewalk
versus
an
expansive
sidewalk
that
you're
providing
what
I
mean.
What
type
of
cost
is
that
I
mean
that?
G
Doesn't
that's
not
free
right,
there's
a
it
changes
your
economics
of
development
to
give
that
right
away.
How
does
that
affect
the
project.
I
G
G
D
D
G
Well,
you're,
correct
chair:
I
think
this
whole
area
of
san
carlos
has
been
you
know.
If
this
was
15
years
ago.
The
government,
the
city,
would
be
paying
millions
of
dollars
to
push
this
type
of
development
for
the
economic
development
of
the
city.
But
since
jerry
brown
and
the
legislature
ended
the
redevelopment
agency,
it's
really
up
to
the
private
entities
out
there
and
this
really
matches
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
the
downtown
and
our
general
plan.
D
D
Young
hi,
let
me
give
commissioner
cantrell
a
chance
to
vote,
is
mr
cantrell
on
the
call.
I
don't
see
him.
E
Here,
bonilla,
yes,
I
wanted
to
clarify
what
happened
with
item
4c.
Was
it
the
commission
or
the
maker
of
the
motion's
intent
to
defer
or
to
continue
all
of
item
4c
or
just
the
recommendation?
Three,
which
is
apple
only.
K
E
K
And
just
to
streamline
that
jennifer,
if
we
were
just
to
not
do
that
and
just
do
the
whole
thing,
would
we
have
quorum
without
the
folks
who
have
a
conflict.
K
Okay,
sure,
would
you
entertain
a
motion
to
take
up
item
4c.
C
E
D
D
D
L
Yes,
there
is
one
item
that
went
to
city
council
from
this
commission,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
serpentine
pavilion
which
this
commission
acted
on
about
a
month
ago.
It
was
appealed
to
the
city
council
city
council,
held
at
de
novo
hearing
and
deny
the
appeal
and
approve
their
conditional
use
permit,
thereby
I
pulled
in
your
decision.
D
Vera
for
those
of
us
that
well,
they
did
go
to
law
school.
He
defined
the
novo
for
everyone
in
the
public.
Just
what
that
means.
E
D
Thank
you
for
that.
With
that
we
will
now
move
to.
Is
there?
Is
there
anything
else,
robert?
Under
that
item,.
L
That
is
it
the
id
appeal
and
approve
the
project.
All.
D
C
I
have
a
question
about
the
commissioner
calendar
on
the
website.
It
shows
that
we're
coming
back
to
chambers
in
september,
but
I
had
emailed
staff
previously
asking
when
we
might
be
coming
back
and
they
mentioned
november.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
clarity
for
those
of
us
who
might
need
to
plan
for
a
variety
of
things
to
start
coming
back
in
person.
L
Commissioner,
caballero
still
seem
to
be
in
a
flux.
The
guidelines
change
every
once
in
a
while.
So.
L
Well
noted
we'll
make
the
correction
to
reflect
to
be
determined.
D
G
Thanks
chair,
it's
not
it's.
I
don't
know
where
to
bring
this
up,
but
when
we
have
comments
from
the
members
of
the
public
on
an
agenda
item
and
they
don't
speak
about
anything
regarding
the
actual
item,
it
is
the
chairs
opportunity
to
limit
that
discussion.
It's
happens
pretty
repeatedly,
and
I
would
just
only
ask
that,
because
it
doesn't
pertain
to
the
agenda
item.
D
The
the
chair,
the
chair,
absolutely
appreciates
the
the
feedback
and
understands
that
in
this
specific
instance,
I
did
feel
broadly
that
there
was
some
connection
to
the
topic,
but
I
am
aware
of
it
and
I
will
be
continue
to
monitor
it,
but
thank
you
for
your
comment
with
that.
The
public
record
anything
anyone
want
to
add
to
the
public
record.
D
Well,
I
will
say
this
that
the
fundamental
reason
why
I
ended
did
not
approve
the
initial
request
for
a
motion
is
because
I
wanted
commissioner
lardinwa
to
enjoy
his
happy
birthday.
I
wanted
to
wish
him
a
happy
birthday
right
here
before
the
his
colleagues
in
the
city
as
a
whole,
so
happy
birthday
justin.
Thank
you
sure.
E
K
D
Well,
you
know
what
we
we
can
right,
but
I
don't
think
he'll
ever
come
back
to
meeting.
We
don't
want
that.