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From YouTube: AUG 14, 2019 | Planning Commission
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City of San José
Planning Commission
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A
B
B
And
this
about
deposit
the
completed
card
in
the
basket.
There
are
also
speaker
cards
in
the
back
of
the
chambers
anyway,
we're
not
in
the
chambers
so
they're
over
there.
The
procedure
for
this
hearing
is
as
follows:
after
the
staff
report,
applicants
and
appellant
may
make
a
five-minute
presentation.
The
chair
will
call
out
names
on
the
submitted
speaker
cards
in
the
order
received,
as
your
name
is
called
line
up
in
front
of
the
microphone
at
the
front
of
the
chamber.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
B
A
B
That
help
okay
planning
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
speaker's
response
to
Commissioner.
Questions
will
not
reduce
the
speakers
time
allowance.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
Planning
Commission
will
take
action
on
the
item.
The
Planning
Commission
may
request
staff
to
respond
to
the
public
testimony
ask
staff
questions
and
discuss
the
item.
B
If
you
challenge
these
land-use
decisions
in
court,
you
may
be
limited
to
raising
only
those
issues
you
or
someone
else
raised
at
this
public
hearing
or
in
written
correspondence
delivered
to
the
city
at
or
prior
to
the
public
hearing
the
Planning
Commission's
action
on
reasonings
pries,
owning
general
plan
amendments
and
code
amendments
is
only
advisory
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
will
hold
public
hearings
on
these
items.
B
So
I'll
read
what
it
says
here:
public
comments
to
the
Planning
Commission
on
non-agenda
items.
Please
fill
out
a
speaker's
card
and
give
it
to
a
technician.
Each
member
of
the
public
may
address
the
Commission
for
up
to
three
minutes.
The
Commission
cannot
take
any
formal
action
without
the
item
being
properly
noticed
and
placed
on
an
agenda
in
response
to
public
comment.
B
All
right,
I
see
shaking
heads
so
moving
on
to
the
consent
calendar
and
we
do
not
have
any
items
on
consent.
So
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
to
item
five,
the
public
hearing-
and
we
have
one
item
and
I'm
gonna,
read
here
what
it
says.
Generally
the
public
hearing
items
are
considered
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
order
in
which
they
appear
on
the
agenda.
We
have
one
so
there
will
be
no
surprises.
However,
please
be
advised
that
the
Commission
may
take
items
out
of
order.
C
C
So
for
this
site,
there's
an
existing
approximately
seventy
eight
thousand
square
foot
shopping
center,
divided
into
multiple
buildings,
and
this
projects
fair
share,
is
around
a
hundred
to
one
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
square
feet,
and
so
staff
has
the
discretion
as
part
of
the
signature
project
process,
to
determine
what
their
fair
share
should
be
of
the
entire
village,
and
we
determined
that
two
hundred
thousand
square
feet
was
their
minimum
required
and
the
applicant
and
their
proposal
complies
with
that.
In
addition,
signature
projects
must
be
in
prominent
visible
locations
in
the
village.
C
This
is
a
serves
as
a
gateway
to
the
entire
village
being
at
a
prominent
corner
of
South,
Bascom
Avenue
and
Bascom
Avenue,
serving
as
a
gateway
into
the
actual
city
from
Campbell.
Additionally,
as
mentioned
previously,
signature
projects
provide
public
park,
lands,
and/or,
privately
maintained,
but
publicly
accessible,
open
spaces.
This
project
provides
a
publicly
accessible,
open
space
that
is
privately
owned
of
it's
almost
an
acre.
C
It's
like
42,000
square
feet
which
will
have
public
access
easements,
as
well
as
other
required
legal
documentation
that
is
maintained,
publicly
accessible
24/7
to
all
users,
not
just
the
users
of
the
site
also
required
is
the
pedestrian
friendly
design.
Staff
believes
that
this
has
been
maintained.
The
project
is
providing
many
improvements,
including
the
buildings
being
built
up
to
their
front
setbacks.
The
increase
of
the
public
sidewalk
to
20
feet
the
inclusion
of
lush
landscaping
to
create
a
pleasant
pedestrian
environment.
They
also
are
putting
a
connection.
C
The
plaza
serves
as
a
direct
connection
from
South
Bascom
Avenue
to
the
adjacent
Bascom
light
rail
station
through
the
center
of
the
site
that
can
serve
as
a
faster
way
for
people
to
connect
to
our
transit
resources.
Also,
they
have
their
residential
balconies
and
their
office
use
facing
onto
the
plaza,
as
well
as
onto
South
Bascom
Avenue.
They
also
across
from
Southwest
expressway,
and
the
light
rail
station
have
what
we
call
eyes
on
the
street
with
their
balconies
and
there
are
open
spaces
for
the
office
building
facing
on
to
those
uses.
C
This
project
had
two
official
community
meetings,
so
part
of
the
signature
project
criteria
is
their
substantial
outreach.
We
conducted
two
community
meetings
and
each
of
them
had
a
really
good
turnout
and
many
of
the
people
I
see
here
today
where
there
was
a
dialogue
with
the
with
the
public
about
there
once
and
not
things
that
they
didn't
like
about
it
and
the
project
has
evolved
since
then
demonstrates
high
quality
architecture,
landscape
and
site
design
features.
Staff
beliefs
of
the
project
demonstrates
a
variety
of
different
high
quality
materials.
C
There's
good
articulation
to
the
building
facade
staff
believes
that
the
roof
line
provides
from
the
pedestrian
level.
A
certain
level
of
variation
that
meets
doesn't
provide
just
a
flat
roof.
Maybe
we'll
talk
about
that
more
and
it's
consistent
with
the
recommendation
of
the
urban
design
review
process,
so
we
contract
with
a
professional
urban
design
firm
who
provides
comments
on
these
plans
to
help
supplement
our
comments,
and
many
of
their
comments
are
consistent
with
what
staff
had
provided
and
have
been
implemented
into
the
project.
C
I
do
want
to
provide
an
update
to
the
staff
report,
to
read
into
the
record
I
neglected,
to
mention
that
the
residential
building
is
including
590
bicycle
parking
spaces.
My
mistake
of
omission
and
the
office
building
has
43
of
its
own
bicycle
parking
spaces,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
reflected
specific
comments
that
were
received
and
I
was
asked
to
read
into
the
record.
So
this
project
we've
talked
about
the
roof
line.
We
look
at
it
from
the
pedestrian
level
as
well
as
the
elevation.
They
do
reflect
differently.
C
So
when
you're,
at
the
specific
perspective
of
the
street,
the
line,
the
roof
line
reads
differently
and
the
applicant
can
show
this
in
their
presentation
the
tree
removals
on-site.
The
applicant
is
required
to
replace
they're,
removing
17
ordinance,
sized
trees
and
one
non
ordinance
sized
trees
and
a
normal
sized
tree
is
one
that
measures
thirty
eight
inches
in
circumference
around
its
trunk
at
four
feet
and
when
measured
from
the
ground,
just
for
clarity,
they're
actually
required
to
replace
with
seven
D
trees
on
site.
C
They
instead
are
actually
going
way
above
that
requirement
at
two
hundred
and
forty
five,
so
I
wanted
to
read
that
into
the
record.
There
were
multiple
comments
received
from
the
public
and
to
talk
about
affordable
housing.
There's
a
desire
for
the
project
to
include
affordable
housing.
On-Site
I
want
to
provide
clarity
that
this
is
not
a
requirement
under
our
ordinances.
C
In
fact,
when
these
ordinances
are
brought
forward
on,
the
city
was
sued
and
we
were
required
to
provide
multiple
options
to
satisfy
our
affordable
housing
requirements
and
one
of
those
is
the
option
to
pay
an
in
lieu
fee.
So
we
cannot
legally
require
them
to
build
on-site
as
long
as
they
satisfied.
C
There
was
a
desire
to
see
retail
at
the
site,
specifically,
retail
retail
is
not
our
requirement
that
at
the
planning
level,
we
require
specifically
we're
looking
at
overall
at
commercial,
which
can
be
satisfied
as
retail
the
project
itself.
In
its
zoning
parameters,
they
can
build
up
to
three
hundred
thousand
square
feet
if
they
come
in
for
a
subsequent
permit
of
commercial
on
site.
The
reason
this
is
important
is,
as
the
market
changes
over
time,
the
applicant
or
future
applicants
or
owners.
C
Whoever
owns
the
property
in
the
future
can
apply
to
build
retail
if
it
becomes
something
that
the
market
can
support
or
they
can
choose
to
expand
their
office
use
that
can
be
done
in
both
the
residential
building
and
in
office
building
as
proposed,
and
this
can
be
offset
by
reducing
parking
over
time.
As
the
market
supports
that.
C
There
were
comments
about
the
public
plaza
and
the
parking
garage
facing
the
plaza
unique
to
the
site,
as
you
can
see
in
the
site
plan
Southwest
expressway.
What
you
would
think
would
be
treated
at
the
rear
of
this
property
is
not
the
case.
This
property
is
very
uniquely
constrained,
given
its
triangular
shape.
C
It
also
has
almost
two
or
three
but
has
like
two
fronts
along
most
of
it:
the
rear
of
it
faces
on
it
or
Commons
to
the
north,
and
then
the
office
buildings
that
is
I,
think
the
Girl
Scouts
may
be
in
one
of
them,
and
so
there's
a
unique
design
challenge.
How
do
you
hide
parking
in
a
way
where
you
don't
have
a
traditional
year
to
a
site?
C
And
this
is
something
that
we
worked
very
closely
with
the
applicant
on
and
with
the
community,
there's
a
desire
to
maintain
a
certain
level
of
parking
to
not
impact
the
existing
neighborhood
and
also
to
make
sure
that
properties
are
leasable.
We
don't
want
to
build
something
that
we
cannot
least
because
it's
not
meeting
market
demand,
and
so
in
that
way
the
applicant
has
screened,
put
two
levels
of
the
parking
underground,
which
is
pretty
much
the
maximum.
C
They
can
do
with
the
high
water
tables
that
we
have,
as
well
as
the
railroad
ties
from
the
adjacent
tracks
that
we
have
and
for
the
light
rail
itself
and
then
the
freight
line
that
goes
through
as
well,
as
has
four
levels
above
ground.
Those
are
shielded
with
undulating
artistic
panels
as,
in
addition
to
landscaping
treatments,
and
this
is
the
trade-off
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
get
the
amount
of
parking
that
is
necessary
to
have
a
viable
commercial
space
at
this
time
which,
as
I
mentioned
before
it,
could
change
in
the
future.
C
There
was
a
request
about
sustainability
measures.
The
applicant
will
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
more
in
their
presentation,
but
many
of
the
requests
for
sustainability
are
met
by
the
project
just
by
its
locational
criteria
in
the
mix
of
uses
and
are
the
secret
team
may
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
this,
but
locational
requirements
they're
like
reduce.
You
reduce
your
overall
impacts,
whereas
for
traffic
for
greenhouse
gases
and
other
things
by
locating
yourself
near
transit
lines
and
locating
uses
that
are
complementary
to
one
another
near
each
other.
C
As
far
as
the
specifics,
if
they're
gonna
achieve
LEED
Silver
certification,
what
those
are
figured
out
in
the
subsequent
building
permit
stage,
they
are
not
determined
during
our
planning
approval
stage.
So
I
wanted
to
provide
that
clarity.
They
haven't
determined
what
those
are
going
to
be.
At
this
point.
C
There
were
concerns
about
the
intersection
a
moment:
Stan
I
promise
the
intersection
at
Bascom
Avenue
and
Southwest
expressway.
There
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
safety
of
that
intersection.
It
was
reiterated
numerous
times
by
community
members
of
both
community
meetings
and
I.
Understand
as
if
concern
tonight,
this
entire
corridor
of
South
Bascom
is
being
re-envisioned
through
the
South
Bascom
Complete
Streets
initiative
that
VTA,
so
the
Valley
Transportation
Authority
and
the
city
of
San,
Jose,
I,
believe
Santa,
Campbell
and
Los
Gatos
are
participating
in
and
we
can.
C
We
can
provide
more
details
if
necessary
or
their
rien
visioning,
the
entire
corridor
holistically,
and
so,
as
part
of
that
effort,
they
will
be
looking
at
that
intersection,
as
it
is
part
of
that
corridor
to
see
what
sort
of
safety
measures
can
be
implemented.
This
project
there's
no
legal
nexus
for
us
to
require
them
to
do
improvements
at
that
point,
because
it's
not
on
their
physical
frontage.
C
Lastly,
Park
in
lieu
fees
were
there's
a
concern
about
Park
in
lieu
fees
and
where
they're
spent,
so
the
Parks
Department
has
a
requirement.
They
spend
their
park
fees
which
they'll
be
collecting
from
this
applicant
within
the
same
council
district.
They
work
with
their
council
member
to
make
a
determination
about
if
they
could
purchase
land
that
is
potentially
available
throughout
the
city
throughout
that
district
itself.
C
If
that
is
not
what
works
out
for
this,
that
particular
fund
of
money,
they
can
use
that
land
that
money
to
build
new
improvements
on
existing
park,
infrastructure
or
lands,
or
they
can
fund
repairs
at
existing
recreational
facilities
that
were
within
three
miles
of
this
project
site.
So
I
want
to
provide
that
clarification
about
where
the
money
goes.
It
does
stay
in
the
district
and
it
stays
relatively
close
to
this
project
site
and,
lastly,
for
housing,
affordable
in
fees.
C
The
housing
department
does
not
have
locational
criteria
similar
to
parks,
and
so
they
require
they,
don't
they
put
all
of
their
in
lieu
fees
into
one
city.
Why
pot,
which
is
then
distributed
out
to
people
through
a
bidding
process?
Affordable
housing
builders
that
take
that
money
and
can
spend
it.
However,
they
are
looking
at
what
they're
calling
loosely
a
dispersion
policy
moving
forward
where
they're
looking
to
see
if
they
can
identify
sites
throughout
the
city
where
they
can
be
spending
that
money
to
build
the
affordable
housing
that
we
need.
I
want
to
provide
that
clarity.
B
D
C
So
are
there's
a
permit
condition,
as
well
as
in
the
ordinance.
The
development
standards
require
that
the
commercial
and
residential
building
permits
be
issued
together,
and
so
they
have
to
get
their
building
permits
at
the
same
time,
and
then
we
won't
issue
their
certificates
of
Occam.
It's
the
occupancy
for
the
residential
building
until
they've
gotten
it
for
their
commercial
building
and.
D
How
is
staff
utilized
past
circumstances
to
make
ensure
I
think
we've
had
situations
in
the
past
where
both
residential
and
commercial
approved
we
only
get
the
residential?
Maybe
they
sell
off
that
portion.
You
know
economic
times
change,
they
don't
want
to
build
commercial.
Of
course
they
could
come
back
to
the
to
the
city
and
the
through
the
process
to
change
that.
But,
ultimately
you
feel
that
this
process
will
ensure
that
both
office
and
residential
would
be
built.
Correct.
C
B
E
Hi,
my
name
is
Brian
Wolfe
I'm,
a
partner
at
baywest
development,
thanks
for
having
us
here
today,
I
wanted
to
start
out
really
by
thanking
a
few
people.
This
has
been
a
long
process
for
us.
Like
Jennifer
said
we
submitted
our
original
application
for
our
PDC
permit
in
2017,
and
there
are
a
number
of
people
along
the
way
that
have
been
extraordinarily
helpful.
That
I
think
is
important
to
recognize
here.
E
The
plans
have
changed
and
iterated
over
time,
based
on
that
community
feedback
and
I'd
like
to
commend
the
community
that,
throughout
all
the
meetings
it
was
very
cordial,
it
was
lively
discussions
back
and
forth
of
what
people
liked
and
didn't
like
and
I
think
what
we're
showing
you
today
as
a
result
of
that.
Secondly,
council,
member
Davis
and
her
office
have
helped
us
along
the
way
and
provided
their
feedback
through
the
different
iterations
after
various
community
meetings
or,
as
we
were,
throwing
around
site
plans
in
the
very
beginning
of
this
process.
E
What
I'd
like
to
say
about
her
office
is
that
many
of
the
comments
that
we
received
from
council
member
Davis
were
the
exact
same
comments
that
we
received
from
our
community
meetings,
which
we
do
work
in
a
lot
of
different
municipalities,
and
it's
not
often
that
the
council
member
in
a
particular
district
is
as
in
touch
as
she
was
with
her
community
members,
and
it
just
is
a
testament
to
the
work
that
she's
does
and
the
outreach
that
she
does
through
her
office.
Third
of
all
to
our
architect,
wrn
SR,
our
entire
design
team.
E
We
really
challenge
them
with
this
project
to
create
kind
of
a
true
gateway
into
the
city
of
San,
Jose
I
think
they've
achieved
that
and
balanced
all
the
different
various
parties
who
have
commented
on
it,
whether
it
be
us
whether
it
be
community
staff,
council
and
I,
think
they've
done
a
wonderful
job
and
you'll
see
you.
I.
What
that
is,
and
then
finally
city
staff
and
primarily
Jennifer
P
Jose
who's,
led
this
process
for
the
last
two
years.
E
First
of
all,
we
were
challenged
with
creating
a
gateway
entrance
into
San
Jose,
that's
defined
in
the
urban
village
plan
and
was
the
key
to
our
thesis
and
how
we
designed
this
project.
That's
what
led
to
the
office
building
being
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
site
as
you
transition
in
from
the
city
of
Campbell
to
San
Jose.
We
think
that
is
a
beacon
to
enter
into
San
Jose.
Secondly,
is.
F
E
Employment
center,
we
are
providing
200,000
square
feet
of
office,
which
is
two-thirds
of
the
entire
capacity
for
the
entire
urban
village
plan.
That
was
key
with
council
member
Davis
to
really
create
a
vibrant
employment
center
in
this
location,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
connection,
we're
installing
a
signalization
at
Pam
lar
right
now,
as
its
set
up
today
Bascom
station,
the
VTA
light
rail
station
every
all
the
residences
on
on
the
west
side
of
Bascom
Avenue
have
no
direct
access
to
Bascom
station
to
access
light
rail
one
of
council
member
Davis
is
keys
to
this.
E
Entire
project
was
being
able
to
create
that
connection,
introducing
the
signalized
intersection
there
and
then
creating
the
plaza
connection
between
the
two
buildings.
As
that
connection,
I.
Think,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
most
important
community
benefit
to
this
project,
providing
a
public
plaza
and
opens
face.
We
can
go
on
that
and
further
detail
widen
the
sidewalks
20
feet,
sidewalks,
all
of
them
along
Bascom,
Avenue
setbacks
and
step
backs
according
to
the
daylight
plane
in
the
urban
village
plan.
This
is
not
a
requirement
under
a
signature
project.
E
Throughout
the
community
meetings,
we
have
continued
to
evolve
our
plans.
We
thought
it
was
important
for
sound
or
comments
and
the
community
members
that
live
in
those
condo
projects
to
be
able
to
have
that
daylight
plane
accessible
to
them.
It
cost
us
some
units
honestly,
but
we
think
it
created
a
better
project
not
only
for
us
but
for
the
community
as
a
whole
building
heights.
While
the
urban
village
plan
calls
for
150
foot
height
limits,
our
project
is
11
and
60
feet.
E
65
feet
lower
than
those
building
heights
was
still
being
able
to
maximize
density
on
the
site
and
speaking
of
densities.
Again,
two-thirds
of
all
commercial
space
allocated
to
this
entire
urban
village
plan
we're
providing
on-site
as
well
as
590
new
housing
units
to
the
city
without
taking
away
any
other
housing
units
and
without
a
pure
net
590
units
and
then
finally,
parking
which
has
honestly
been
one
of
the
biggest.
E
Fights
back
and
forth
if
you
will
of
the
city's
desire
to
reduce
parking
in
a
transit
location
like
this
and
the
community's
desire
to
not
have
overflow
parking
into
their
streets
and
then
from
an
applicants
perspective
to
have
an
appropriate
amount
of
parking
to
be
able
to
have
this
be
viable
in
the
near
term.
So
we
can
build
this
project
I.
Think
what
we've
come
to
is
a
fair
resolution
of
that
for
everybody.
Our
overall
project
is
a
15%
reduction
in
parking
code.
E
It's
a
18%
reduction
on
the
residential
side
and
a
12%
reduction
on
the
office
side.
We
can
go
into
that
in
further
detail
later,
but
that
number
has
fluctuated
up
and
down
through
these
community
community
meetings
and
I
think
is
we've
gotten
to
a
point
that
is
fair
and
equitable
for
all
of
the
community
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
as
they
come
up
and
I
have
a
number
of
slides
in
the
future
of
renderings
and
stuff
like
that.
So
if
there's
specific
questions,
then
we
can
address
them
through
those
pictures.
G
H
H
Improvements
like
building
affordable
housing
on-site,
so
we
have
inclusive,
diverse
communities,
building
in
a
more
active
Plaza
through
retail,
on
the
site,
ensuring
that
there
are
greater
sustainability,
features,
reducing
the
number
of
parking
spaces
so
that
we
can
build
up
our
transit
system
and
get
people
living
in
our
city
in
a
more
healthy
way.
Walking
around
the
urban
village
talks
about
four
signature
projects:
a
process
through
a
substantive
opportunity
for
input
by
interested
community
members.
H
The
developer
made
no
improvements
to
the
project
based
on
catalyze
des
filles
recommendations,
so
I'm
concerned
about
how
that
fits
in
with
the
signature
project.
I'm
also
concerned
with
something
I
heard
from
this
Planning
Commission
a
few
weeks
ago,
when
we
were
in
chambers
which
is
worried
about
being
sued
and
sued,
for
not
approving
projects
or
following
the
rules,
I'm
also
worried
about
being
sued
by
our
children
and
our
children's
children.
We
are
in
a
housing
crisis.
H
We
continue
to
operate
as
a
suburban
twentieth,
Century
City,
when
we
need
to
be
an
urban
21st
century
city
and
I
am
worried
that
our
children
are
going
to
look
at
and
say
how
is
this
a
signature
project
according
to
a
city
standards?
This
should
be
the
highest
quality
project
in
our
city
and
I'm
concerned
that
this
one
is
not
I
want
us
to
be
looking
just
as
much
at
what
the
future
development
of
our
city
looks
needs
to
look
like
as
we
worry
about
whether
we're
gonna
get
sued
by
a
landowner.
H
B
J
Hi,
my
name
is
Andrea
Kyle
and
I
actually
live
at
the
Palomar
HOA
community,
which
is
directly
north
of
this
site.
I'm,
actually
very
happy
that
I
was
able
to
listen
to
catalyze
s.
B's
information
before
I
stepped
up
because
they
didn't
participate
in
any
of
our
community
meetings.
They've
decided
to
now
at
this
point
where
you
are
almost
ready
to
break
ground
to
come
in
and
complain.
Dick
Center
is
a
blight.
Dick
Center
has
been
a
blight
since
I
moved
into
the
Palomar
HOA
community
in
2004.
J
Anything
is
better
than
what
is
there
now
I
have
participated
in
all
the
community
meetings
and
overall
I've
been
impressed
with
baywest
I
haven't
been
impressed
with
Jennifer.
They
have
done
a
wonderful
job,
trying
to
improve
what
is
truly
just
a
terrible
site,
and
my
biggest
concern
is
the
parking
and
Jennifer
I'm.
Sorry,
what
is
the
current
parking.
J
I'm
still
concerned
with
that,
considering
that
there's
590
units,
which
is
one
parking
space
per
unit,
I
understand
that
the
future
is
going
to
be
mass
transit.
But,
as
I
have
said
in
other
community
meetings,
people
live
where
they
can
afford
to
live,
and
sometimes
you
don't
get
to
take
light
rail
to
work,
because
that's
not
where
you
work,
you
don't
work
in
downtown
San,
Jose,
you're
working
in
Saratoga,
you're
working
in
Mountain,
View,
you're
working
in
Redwood,
City
and
places
that
you
cannot
get
to
via
mass
transit.
J
So
I
think
it's
very
important
for
you
guys
to
really
remember
that
this
community,
the
community
I,
live
in.
We
already
have
a
parking
issue
and
cutting
down
that
parking
is
truly
truly
going
to
affect
everyone
within
this
entire
map
view
that
you're
looking
at
right
now,
so
I
really
encourage
you
to
increase
the
parking
and
I'm
sorry
that
other
people
are
blinded
by
that.
Jennifer
has
said
that
there
is
an
option
for
reduced
parking
at
another
time.
Thank
you.
J
Vta
is
interested
in
this
project
because
we
are
here
to
ensure
safety
at
and
near
our
transit
facilities.
Together,
we
will
continue
our
work
with
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission
and
the
Federal
Railroad
Administration
to
make
sure
that
rail
crossings
are
safe.
Vta
does
not
support.
San
Jose
is
quiet
zone
in
this
area.
We
feel
that
blowing
the
horn
is
the
most
effective
way
of
alerting
people
that
a
train
is
coming.
J
The
fre
noted
a
number
of
improvements,
including
signs
road
markings.
Signaling
swing
gates,
pedestrian
elements
that
would
be
needed
to
be
constructed
if
the
city
were
to
add
development
in
this
area
and
wants
to
continue
the
quiet
zone.
The
city's
application
to
reaffirm
the
quiet
zone,
which
VTA
is
not
co-sponsoring,
is
currently
pending.
I
have
a
copy
of
the
quiet
zone.
Diagnostic
review
meeting
notes,
VTA
feels
this
information
should
be
included
before
entering
into
any
final
agreements
on
this
development.
K
K
On
whitethorn,
at
the
various
meetings
that
were
held
to
discuss
this
project
frequently,
the
issue
was
raised
about
how
tall
this
is
in
comparison
with
the
neighborhood.
It
completely
is
out
of
whack
in
terms
of
the
neighborhood
it
may
fit
into
your
urban
plan,
but
it
does
not
fit
into
the
neighborhood
as
I
understand
it.
It's
eight
stories
high
in
the
residential
and
ten
stories
and
the
commercial
was
that
accurate.
You
know.
K
In
addition,
I
expect
that
we're
gonna
have
big
parking
problems
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
I
I
expect
we'll
be
back
to
the
city
asking
for
some
got
a
residential
permit
parking,
because
that's
what
it's
going
to
come
down
to
in
addition
basket
Lavin
who
getting
on
to
880
already
stacks
up
badly
I,
don't
know
what
effect
this
is
going
to
have,
particularly
for
going
to
narrow
Bascom,
which
I
think
is
part
of
the
plan
out
of
this
entity,
but
of
the
city.
So
those
are
my
concerns.
Thank.
I
I'm
Sylvia
Carolyn.
What
concerns
me
is
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
I.
Understand
that
there's
an
in
lieu
fee
that's
going
to
be
paid
and
where
is
the
affordable
housing
going
to
go
that
will
be
financed
by
this
in
Luffy
and
I
challenge
any
Commissioner
on
this
board
to
tell
me
the
site
of
one
each
of
you,
one
site
for
affordable
housing.
I
see
are
silenced,
so
you
have
no
sites
so
you're
gonna.
Let
them
put
in
a
housing
project
with
no
affordable
housing.
K
My
name
is
Jake
Tonko
I
live
on
Tamar
Avenue,
where
the
third
house,
in
from
Bascom,
so
pretty
close
I,
would
actually
like
to
echo
the
comments
of
catalyze
sv
as
someone
that
needs
to
move
out
of
my
mother's
house
at
some
point.
In
my
life
having
affordable
housing,
on-site
needs
to
be
a
priority
so
that
we
can
continue
to
within
the
neighborhood.
I
know
that
there
are
empty
commercial
buildings
all
up
and
down
Bascom
Avenue
that
are
run
down
that
could
easily
be
turned
into
larger,
more
upgraded
commercial
sites.
K
While
we
make
this
site,
perhaps
a
lower
height
limit
and
more
housing.
But
I
would
love
to
also
listen
to
the
commissioners
and
baywest
to
hear
more
about
what
a
transition
might
be
like
from
when
this
doesn't
fill
up
with
commercial,
because
there
are
so
many
empty
commercial
buildings
right
down
the
street.
How
do
we
change
that
into
housing
because
we
know
we
need
it?
Thank
you.
K
K
G
Thank
You
chair
ballard
and
planning
commission,
randy,
kim
and
sherée
Knox
Neighborhood
Association.
This
project
is
within
our
neighborhood
boundaries.
You
received
a
letter
from
us
that
incorporates
our
views
and
those
of
our
neighbors.
There
was
a
process
prior
to
this
project.
A
decade
ago,
the
community
became
involved
in
what
was
eventually
rolled
out
as
the
urban
village
component
of
our
general
plan.
We
turned
out
for
all
the
VTA
and
City
Planning
sessions
for
the
Bascom
and
Southwest
quarters.
It
was
standing
room
only
for
these
meetings,
including
the
meetings
for
this
project.
G
This
project
is
presented,
represents
thoughtful
and
collaborative
work.
That
is
a
respect
for
our
neighborhoods.
That's
why
I
ask
that
you
approve
the
plan
and
consider
our
recommendations
with
the
way
they
deserve.
We
are
not
in
an
beefs.
We
are
not
deficient
in
understanding
the
planning
process.
You've
also
received
a
number
of
letters
from
people
who
attended.
None
of
these
meetings
do
not
live
here,
have
never
contacted
us
and
show
no
understanding
of
the
big
picture,
but
have
opinions.
G
G
Not
once
have
we
asked
for
retail
along
the
light
rail
line,
nobody
has
to
worry
about
the
problem,
the
plaza
being
activated
because
there's
not
a
public
park
for
more
than
a
mile
design,
the
plaza
to
be
people
friendly
and
you'll,
find
hundreds
of
moms
with
kids
seniors
and
other
residents
willing
to
activate
the
prop
the
plaza
retail
needs
to
move.
If
it's
going
to
move
to
the
Bascom
side
and
connect
with
existing
retail,
we
will
continue
to
ask
that
affordable
housing
and
park
these
to
be
spent
within
or
adjacent
to
the
urban
village.
G
We
stand
against
any
reduction
of
parking.
We
stand
against
any
height
increase
or
increase
in
housing
units.
This
is
a
transitional
project,
not
a
downtown
project.
I
want
to
thank
mr.
oliveria
for
reminding
us
all
that
the
trigger
for
commercial
is
needed,
because
fruit,
Dale
station
has
been
there
for
20
years
and
I
still
don't
have
any
commercial
I
do
want
to
thank
the
staff
and
the
developer
for
their
time,
and
somebody
put
me
on
the
list
for
the
VTA
sound
thing:
the
no
noise
just,
however,
that
happens.
Thank
you.
I.
B
Have
a
question
actually
Randy.
Does
anyone
else
have
a
question?
First
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
the
letter.
It
was
showed
clearly
that
you
guys
have
been
paying
attention
and
you
know
what
you're
talking
about.
So
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
about
the
parking
because,
typically
as
a
bike
advocate,
you
would
imagine
that
I
tend
to
be
one
of
those
people
that
supports
reducing
parking
in
looking
at
the
site.
B
I'm
wondering
in
terms
of
fear,
can
you
explain
more
the
fear
around
parking,
because
when
I
look
at
this
site
intuitively
and
when
I
Drive,
it
I
think
to
myself,
there's
so
many
you
know
Bascom
so
wide
you've
got
the
the
tracks.
You
know
where
if
I
live
across
the
street,
well,
there's
a
mobile
home
park
but
say
I'm
living
in
the
condos
like
I,
don't
think
I
would
I
mean
it's
just
like
spillover
parking
is
so
inconvenient
right.
B
G
So
the
spillover
traffic
is
spillover
traffic.
What
we
have
here
is
a
transitional
project.
That's
not
a
downtown
project,
it's
not
a
downtown
core
project,
and
it's
going
to
because
it's
coming
in
at
the
head
and
at
the
beginning
of
the
urban
village
plan
is
going
to
see
a
lot
more
people
living
in
it
than
it
normally
would
then
you
would
expect
of
a
project
say
ten
years
from
now,
so
there
is
concern.
Those
parking
spaces
can
be
converted
to
something
more
useful
right.
G
Now
our
experience
and
I'll
bring
back
fruit
Dale
station
again,
which
is
the
next
closest
one
about
a
mile
down.
The
road
has
significant
spillover
parking
that
goes
blocks
into
the
neighborhood.
So
right
now,
people
on
the
other
side
of
Southwest
from
this
project
are
using
the
VTA
a
lot
and
they're
using
Southwest.
Expressway
I
expect
spillover
parking
to
go
in
that
direction,
simply
because
it's
convenient
and
easy
which
will
push
those
who
Nyssa
people
who
park
on
the
street
now
further
into
the
adjoining
neighborhoods.
G
G
B
E
Just
wanted
to
make
one
comment
regarding
parking
Jennifer.
You
said
that
there's
590
parking
stalls
there's
in
our
last
community
outreach
meeting.
We
actually
had
proposed
590
parking
stalls
for
our
residential
project.
We've
since
heard
from
the
community
understood
where
they're
coming
from
an
increased
parking
to
643
stalls.
So
it's
more
than
one
per
unit.
We
heard
you,
we
agree
with
you.
We
also
agree
with
the
city.
We
understand
we
built
a
project
right
down
the
street
from
here
about
a
half
a
mile
called
the
Revere,
it's
actually
in
the
city
of
Campbell.
E
We
were
woefully
over
parked
in
that
project,
so
we
understand
the
desire
for
a
reduced
amount
of
parking.
We
also
understand
he's
concerned
about
spillover
parking,
so
we've
tried
to
meet
in
the
middle
on
this
again.
The
residential
parking
is
an
18%
reduction
from
what's
required,
it's
still
a
large
reduction,
but
we
do
think
it's
given
the
transit
location
acceptable
for
the
amount
of
units
that
we
have
on
this
site.
I'd
also
say
that
this
project
is
80%
studios
and
one
bedrooms
so
from
a
parking
demand.
E
Standpoint,
studios
and
one
bedrooms
tend
to
have
a
lower
parking
demand
than
then
two
and
three-bedroom
units,
so
that
hopefully,
will
reduce
some
of
the
demand
is
well
we've
taken
all
that
into
account
as
we've
iterated
through
this
process,
and
the
parking
number
has
gone
up
and
down
throughout
time.
But
that's
the
comment.
I
want
to
make
on
parking.
M
K
L
K
What
we,
what
was
very
important
working
with
Jennifer
and
staff,
was
that
the
roof
was
articulated
and
that
it
was
had
variation
along
it.
So
one
of
the
things
on
the
office
building
is
respective
to
it
being
a
gateway
as
you're
coming
from
Campbell
moving
north
on
South
Bascom,
we
really
want
to
present
that
corner
something
really
important.
So
breaking
the
the
typical
roofline
of
having
a
cornice
with
having
a
massing
volume
that
that
kind
of
essentially
marks
that
corner
was
something
that
was
really
important
to
us.
Like.
M
Have
to
tell
you
the
architecture
is
fabulous.
In
my
opinion,
I'm,
definitely
not
an
expert,
but
the
most
amazing
part
of
it
is
that
you've
apparently
convinced
the
staff
that
the
roof
isn't
flat,
because
the
art
is
so
varied
and
interesting
and
I
think
you
may
have
actually
pulled
it
off.
The
sides
aren't
flat
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination
and
the
the
sheer
interest,
maybe
draws
your
eye
away
from
the
flat
roof,
so
I'll,
let
it
go
I'll
concede
that
it's
a
flat
roof,
but
it's
a
very
nice
looking
building.
Thank.
A
I
had
questions
on
parking
I'm,
a
personal
policy
I
make
a
personal
policy
not
to
comment
on
architecture,
because
I'm
by
no
means
an
expert,
so
I
appreciate
you
raising
the
number
back
up,
I
used
to
live
over
in
that
side
of
town
and
actually
had
a
hand
back
when
and
working
on
the
South
Bascom
urban
village.
So
I
also
appreciate
you
conforming
to
the
urban
village
step
back
and
set
back
rules,
even
though
a
signature
project
is
not
required.
A
E
So
we
try
to
be
very
cautious
about
the
number
of
tandem
parking
spaces
that
we
put
into
any
given
project,
given
their
complexities
about
access
in
and
out
of
the
spots
and
who
gets
them.
What
God
is
comfortable
with
this
number
is
typically
how
we
look
at
it
is
we
look
at
the
number
of
two
and
three-bedroom
units
that
we're
providing
on-site
we're
providing
a
hundred
and
five
two
and
three-bedroom
units
with
56
tandem
parking.
E
Typically,
the
tandem
Parkins
go
to
units
that
want
more
than
one
parking
space
so
that
they
can
manage
that
in
and
out
internally
within
that
household.
Sometimes
that
is
one-bedroom
units
that
have
more
than
one
parking
stall,
but
the
way
we
manage
that
and
the
experience
that
we've
had
is
not
to
provide
too
many
tandem
parkings,
because
that
can
become
an
management
nightmare
for
the
residents
and
for
our
own
staff,
and
so
we
feel
like
the
56
tandem
parking
spaces
is
appropriate.
Given
the
amount
of
two
in
three
bedrooms:
okay,.
E
A
So
that's
not
something
we're
writing
into
any
of
the
standards.
Okay
and
then
the
last
parking
question
was
you
had
said
and
I
know
it's
a
different
project,
but
this
is
for
color,
since
you
brought
it
up
as
an
example,
when
you
say
the
Revere
down,
the
street
was
a
way
over
parked.
Do
they
charge
for
parking.
E
A
Even
for
like
a
second
space,
yeah,
okay
I,
the
reason
I
bring
that
up
is
we've.
Had
other
developers
mentioned
that
you
know
all
these.
Other
developments
are
over
parked
and
then,
when
you
drill
into
it
and
find
out,
it's
$75
a
space
per
month
that
creates
a
financial
incentive
for
somebody
to
park
over
in
Pam,
lar
and
hike
across
the
street
I
would
I
would
hike
yeah
block
to
save
you
know
75
or
a
hundred
bucks.
My
time
pretty
tight.
So.
E
A
Right
exactly:
okay,
that's
those
are
all
my
questions
right
now,
Oh
actually
I
had
one
other
question
that
I
think
I'd
sent
to
Jennifer,
but
I.
Don't
think
you
had
an
answer
and
in
my
list
of
bullets
and
thank
you
by
the
way
for
all
of
those
answers,
because
you
didn't
have
to
do
that
in
the
afternoon
and
hearing
one
community
member
in
one
of
the
letters
and
the
450
something
pages
of
documentation.
We
were
given
complained
that
there
were
two
separate
two-way
driveways
in
in
the
project.
A
One
was
into
the
commercial
facility
and
the
other
was
in
the
residential
facility.
Just
a
few
months
ago
we
approved
downtown
design,
guidelines
and
I
know
this
is
in
downtown,
but
I'm
just
giving
you
an
example
that
literally
called
out
don't
have
wide,
don't
have
too
many
entrances
and
exits,
try
to
make
them
narrow
just
to
enhance
a
pedestrian
experience.
So
pedestrians
don't
feel
like
they're
walking
across
this
minefield.
Can
you
talk
to
why
you
have
to
driveway
yeah
entrances
and
exits?
We.
E
Engaged
traffic
consultants
on
this
project,
irrespective
our
secret
traffic
consultants,
to
help
us
study,
ins
and
outs
and
loads
coming
out
of
both
the
buildings.
One
thing
that
we
did
have
to
do
with
the
residential
building
was
provide
in
our
opinion,
for
the
project
provide
two
locations
and
ends
and
out
for
this
project
we
originally
actually
had
them
closer
together.
We
worked
with
Public
Works
to
provide
a
minimum
feet
distance
between
the
driveways.
E
For
that
exact
reason
to
prevent
problems
like
that,
but
it
was
purely
a
load
based
decision
on
peak
hours
and
when
people
are
coming
out
to
be
able
to
handle
the
loads
that
were
coming
on.
The
office
project
is
just
one
in
and
out
into
the
parking
of
the
office.
There
is
a
second
and
now,
as
I
believe
Jennifer
mentioned,
for
loading
on
the
south.
K
N
Had
a
couple
more,
how
much
of
this
is
working
or
not
a
couple
more
questions
about
the
parking
just
on
the
bundling
I
know
it
hasn't
been
set
on
the
residential?
Was
there
any
discussion
of
unbundling
between
the
residential
and
commercial
components,
k
I
could
see
them
having
opposite
hours.
There.
E
Was
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion?
Unfortunately,
there
have
been
projects
built
within
this
sub
market
recently.
The
biggest
example
of
it
was
Creekside,
a
17
project
which
shares
a
parking
garage
with
the
hotel
adjacent
to
it.
There
was
major
pushback
from
a
tenant
perspective
and
tenant
demand
to
be
able
to
share
that
parking
garage
with
that.
We
were
conscious
of
this
being
a
little
bit
of
an
outlier
location
from
an
often
new
spec
office
location.
E
In
addition,
as
I'm
sure
you
could
tell
just
by
the
renderings
of
that,
this
is
a
we're
targeting
a
high
tech
tenant
larger
floor
plates.
Those
tenants
in
today's
market
are
very
security
conscious
and
want
control
on
parking
from
the
security
standpoint.
You've
seen
that
with
eBay
right
down
the
street,
who
put
up
the
fence
around
their
entire
project.
Recently,
it's
becoming
more
and
more
of
an
issue
from
a
tenant
demand
standpoint.
E
So
as
we
continued
iterating
through
this
project
early
on,
we
did
have
ideas
of
some
sort
of
bundled
parking
between
the
two
and
we
decided
that
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
build
this
project,
this
is
what
is
needed
today.
If
that
changes
in
the
future,
maybe
there's
a
way
to
to
mitigate
it
so.
E
Will
be
the
the
biggest
example
of
such
is
on
the
office
building
in
our
top
parking
floor
height
is
higher
than
the
rest
of
them.
Do
we
program
that,
in
on
purpose,
there
may
be
ability
to
convert
that
some
day
in
the
future?
What
that
use
is
what
that
looks
like
is
to
be
determined,
but
we
tried
to
be
forward-thinking
on
a
project
like
this
realizing
that
was
next
to
next
to
the
train
station,
realizing
the
change
in
and
the
use
of
automobiles
today,
and
hopefully,
this
becoming
a
more
dense
community
in
this
location.
E
We
really
hope
that
this
project
is
a
catalyst
for
the
entire
South
Bascom
urban
village
and,
as
it
becomes
more
and
more
walkable,
more
and
more
useable.
Hopefully
that
happens
in
the
future.
We're
not
there
today,
unfortunately,
which
is
why
the
600
parking
stalls
in
the
office
is
pure
math
of
three
per
thousand
square
foot,
which
is
a
demand
that
were
being
told,
is
absolutely
needed
from
a
tenant
demand
standpoint,
but
we
tried
to
be
where
we
could
creative
and
programming
it
correctly,
so
that
there
could
be
uses
in
the
future.
N
We
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
why
your
project
doesn't
have
affordable
housing
on
site
and-
and
it
sounds
like
there's
nothing
that
really
we
can
do
legally
to
force
you
to
put
it
there,
but
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
from
a
developer's
perspective
as
to
why
you
didn't
do
that
and
why
you
chose
to
pay
in
low
fees
and
what
the
city
or
through
perhaps
changes
in
regulations
could
do
to
make
it
easier
for
developers
to
actually
incorporate
affordable
housing.
On-Site
yeah.
E
So
unfortunately,
I
hate
to
say,
but
it's
a
pure
economic
decision
to
build
the
unit's
on-site
it
cost
about
double.
What
are
in
Luffy
is
on
rough
math,
because
on
this
site
were
required
to
provide
the
200,000
square
feet
of
office.
This
is
again
not
a
traditional
office
location.
We've
committed
to
doing
that.
We've
committed
to
building
them
at
the
exact
same
time
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
take
that
risk.
It
needs
to
be
offset
somewhere.
E
Unfortunately,
part
of
that
offset
is
in
the
housing
component
of
this
there's
a
significantly
more
demand
for
housing
right
now
in
this
type
of
location,
and
so
the
best
way
to
look
at
it.
From
my
perspective,
is
it's
an
offset
for
the
ability
to
build
that
right
away
and
get
this
out
of
the
ground?
Now
again
we're
more
builders?
We
don't
you
know
we're
not
entitlement,
experts
that
entitle
the
site
and
then
go
sell
it.
N
E
Don't
know
the
answer
about
how
long
that
would
be,
but
it
it
is
more
expensive.
Construction
costs
are
incredibly
high
right
now
and
they're
not
slowing
down.
Unfortunately,
and
it's
certainly
not
slowing
down
by
as
much
as
affordable
housing,
rents
are
growing,
and
so
that
disparity
is
only
getting
wider
and
wider,
which
is
why
you're
hearing
more
and
more
discussion
about
reducing
fees
and
other
aspects
to
try
to
get
new
housing
being
built.
That
disparity
is
getting
a
larger
and
larger
right.
E
N
Question
this
might
be
one
for
the
architect
perhaps
but
and
a
sort
of
random,
but
the
building
is
beautiful
and
I
was
reading
that
the
glass
is
transparent
through
the
building.
Does
that
pose
any
bird
safety
issues
given
the
height
of
the
building,
and
is
there
any
mitigation
measures
for
that?
It.
K
K
N
K
I
would
have
to
talk
to
Bay
West
about
that
and
understand
what
the
implications
are.
I
would
say
that
it's
not
all
glass,
and
so
there
is
some
metal,
extrusions
and
essentially
fins
that
are
around
the
glass
volumes
and
that
definitely
helps
with
the
birds
as
they're
kind
of
seeing
the
building
and
not
seeing
through
it
and
knowing
did
they
need
to
just
fly
away.
So
it's
something
we
can
continue
looking
at
with
baywest
and
it's
something
we're
very
familiar
with
and
have
done
on
many
other
projects.
Thank.
N
E
M
You,
madam
chair,
I,
forgot
this
question
and
I
see
the
VTA
representative
left
they're,
obviously
not
happy
with
the
quiet
zone,
and
neither
is
the
railroad.
So
my
question
is
the
noise
reduction
standards
that
this
project
will
meet,
especially
for
the
residential
is
it?
Are
they
based
on
this
remaining
a
quiet
zone
or
did
the
sing?
Is
it
going
to
be
adequate
to
mitigate
single
event,
noise
without
a
quiet
zone,
because
those
train
whistles
can
get
really
loud
in
the
middle
of
the
night?.
F
H
F
M
General
plans
identifies
noise
reduction
standards
for
new
housing
built
on
the
environment,
the
existing
environment,
so
the
standards
that
the
noise
consultant
would
have
measured
were
the
existing
noise
conditions
and
the
mitigation
would
have
been
based
on
those
conditions.
In
other
words,
the
construction
standards
that
would
be
implemented
at
the
building.
Permit
stage
are
those
noise
standards
based
on
how
noisy
it
is
now
in
a
quiet
zone.
Is
that
when
the
readings
were
taken,
I
said
no.
B
M
M
F
Because
when
they
were
taking
the
noise
measurement
for
this
project,
yes,
we
did
look
at
as
part
of
the
general
plan
policy,
frontier
noise
and
how
the
existing
condition
and
the
environment
would
play
on
future
residents
about
the
policy.
However,
I
am
not
entirely
sure
if
the
fact
or
the
intention
of
the
Hawaiin
gone
away
was
part
of
that,
since
we
were
looking
at
of
it
now,.
O
M
F
Would
like
to
respond
to
that?
So
yes,
yes,
so
as
part
of
our
standard
permit
condition,
in
addition
to
just
the
mitigation
measure,
was
that
to
ensure
that
the
interior
noise
we
have
45,
which
is
the
general
plan,
so
a
building
permit.
It
does
one
that
the
condition
that
they
would
have
to
satisfy,
including
a
acoustic
study
at
that
time,
for.
B
One
of
the
requirements
of
a
signature
project
is
around
community
outreach
and
I.
Believe
the
staff
report
said
that
there
were
two
meetings
with
a
lot
of
folks
involved,
which
is
great
and
then
I
heard
from
the
developer,
and
maybe
a
few
other
community
members
that
there
were
other
meetings
going
on.
Maybe
they
were
on
the
urban
village
planning
process,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
say
a
little
more
about
the
community
outreach
piece
of
this
project
and
I.
B
Ask
because
in
my
mind
you
know
going
above
and
beyond
our
typical
community
outreach
process
doesn't
necessarily
look
like
two
community
meetings.
In
my
mind,
it
would
be
kind
of
alternative
ways
of
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
working
with
the
community,
and
it
sounds
like
the
end
result
was
a
good
one
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
I'm
just
going
forward
in
terms
of
how
we're
evaluating
signature
projects
I
really
would
like
for
the
community
outreach
to
be
super
special.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what?
What
was
here
sure.
C
So
as
since,
so
under
our
council
policy
6-30,
which
controls
the
public
outreach
processes,
not
all
projects
that
come
through
the
Planning
Division
require
community
meetings
and
so
signature
projects
being
as
popular
if
you
will
or
controversial,
depending
on
what
words
you'd
like
to
choose,
we
hold
two
meetings
and
we
hold
them
at
distinct
points
in
the
process
to
make
sure
we
elicit
the
right
amount
of
feedback
and
we
also
notice
them
at
greater
radii.
Then
our
standard
500
feet,
and
so
that's
part
of
how
we
try
to
reach
out
to
the
community.
C
We
go
to
a
thousand
feet,
increase
the
radii.
We
in
addition
to
that,
we
collect
an
email
distribution
list,
because
a
lot
of
the
community
members
express
the
interest
to
be
contacted
via
email.
They
don't
always
get
the
postcard
if
they
do
get
the
postcard,
they
don't
know
what
it
is
and
the
email
is
another
way
to
go
about
it.
In
addition
to
that,
we
maintain
a
projects
of
high
interest
webpage
or
we
keep
people
up
to
date
and
every
time
we
have
sort
of
update
new
plans
are
submitted.
C
We
update
that
website
when
we
have
our
community
meetings
we
go.
We
try
to
go
above
and
beyond
for
signature
projects,
in
particular
by
providing
different
ways
to
collect
public
comment.
To
make
sure
it's
reflected
not
everyone
is
comfortable
speaking
out
in
a
room
full
of
their
neighbors
and
so
comment
cards
are
provided
uniquely
to
this
situation
because
it
overlapped
with
the
South
Bascom
urban
village
process.
C
This
project
got
multiple
meetings
in
addition
to
the
typical
signature
project
process
or
other
larger
projects
like
in
downtown,
and
we
were
able
to
see
a
lot
of
familiar
faces,
come
out
and
get
that
dialog,
but
we've
always
been
available
and
willing
to
talk
to
the
community
and
to
make
sure
all
of
the
comments
are
there.
We
connect
them
with
the
developer
if
they
want
to
talk
to
them
directly,
but
we're
fulfilling
our
requirements
with
council
policy
and
we
try
to
go
above
and
beyond
within
our
means.
We
also
do
post
on
social
media.
B
C
So
the
municipal
code
requires
a
transportation
demand,
management
or
TDM
plan
to
be
required
if
a
project
is
reducing
parking
by
more
than
20
percent.
So
that's
how
they
get
that
increased
reduction
of
the
additional
30
to
50
total
of
reduction.
Since
the
project,
as
Brian
mentioned,
is
reducing
the
residential
by
18
percent
and
then
the
office
by
12
I
got
it
right
this
time
and
that's
a
cumulative
like
15
percent
average
reduction.
C
They
are
not
subject
to
the
TDM
requirements
and
staff
doesn't
have
like
a
legal
way
to
require
them
to
mandate
that
they
do
that
they
could
volunteer
to
put
in
measures
which
does
happen
down
the
road
and
that's
something
that
they
will
have
to
decide.
If
it's
part
of
like
their
leasing
package,
they
want
to
do
that.
But
it's
not
part
of
our
requirements.
Currently
in
our
missable
code.
B
E
Consideration
as
we
continue
our
guests
or
as
part
of
that
is
how
our
construction
documentation
come
out.
What
does
the
market
look
like
at
the
time
that
we're
building
a
project
again
if
something
changes,
depending
on
who
leases
the
building
it
can
change
over
and
over
throughout
the
process
between
now
entitlement
all
the
way
through
completion
of
the
project?
B
C
They
have
to
have
a
sign
that
says
this
is
open
to
you
and
you
can
go
this
way,
and
so
people
can
see
that
the
other
thing
that
was
really
important
to
staff
into
the
community,
which
was
reflected
in
the
South
pass
complain,
is
for
maintain
a
sight
line
so
that
when
people
are
on
South
Bascom,
they
can
look
through
and
they're
like.
What
is
this
space
I
can
see
a
light
rail
station
in
the
distance,
and
so
maintaining
that
is
gonna
help
people
feel
more
comfortable,
transversing
that
space
and
actually
accessing
the
light
rail.
C
B
Then
one
last
question:
that's
not
related
to
this
project
necessarily
but
related,
and
that
is
since
we're
opening
up
access
to
the
station
from
that
side
of
the
train
tracks,
which
is
absolutely
wonderful
for
the
condo
development
that
to
the
north
of
the
site.
Will
they
be
able
to
access
it
as
well?
You
know
it's
peripheral,
it's
not
your
responsibility
to
convince
them
that
they
should
break
down
a
wall
or
something
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
opportunity
is
being
looked
at
so.
C
The
adjacent
HOA
when
they
approved
the
project
they
have
a
public
access,
easement
on
their
own
property
and
then
there's
a
gate
that
have
direct
access
onto
the
existing,
take
center
shopping
center.
There
is
no
requirement
placed
upon
this
property
to
provide
continued
public
access
for
those
for
them
to
use
it
and
actually
legally
cross
onto
the
property.
The
way
that
in
it,
the
way
that
the
site
is
laid
out
and
I,
don't
know
to
the
north
there's
an
e
VA.
So
we
have
fire
access
for
fire
trucks.
C
We
cannot
place
the
public
access
easement
across
our
EBA.
It
is
not
safe
and
the
fire
department
will
not
approve
that
and
so
we're
wrestling
with
those
issues.
Additionally,
there's
going
to
be
a
great,
a
slight
grade
differential
between
this
property
and
the
condo
complex
off
of
Stokes,
where,
if
we
were,
if
access
were
to
be
granted,
a
DA
enhancements
would
have
to
be
provided
on
the
HOA
property
for
them,
because
they're
gonna
be
down
a
little
bit
lower
than
this
property,
a
lot
of
proper
drainage
of
stormwater.
B
So
if
I,
if
I
get,
we
are
saying
there
are
things
on
the
HOA
side
that
would
they
would
have
to
adjust
in
order
to
make
that
doable
to
connect
to
the
station
there,
but
also
importantly,
so
that
would
be
their
responsibility.
Not
the
developer's
responsibility,
but
also
an
additional
constraint
is
that
this
applicant,
this
developer
would
need
to
grant
access
to
those
folks
through
their
property,
correct.
C
And
they
cannot
do
that
over
their
BVA,
their
emergency
access.
We
don't
want
pedestrians
having
access
to
our
emergency
fire
lanes
on
a
property,
and
it
was
something
that
we
talked
about.
It
was
brought
up
by
the
community.
The
developer
considered
it,
but
given
these
constraints
with
safety,
it
was
not
pursued.
So.
B
C
B
K
Good
evening,
I
agree
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
encumber
the
EBA
with
the
public
access
easement,
given
the
rights,
but
it
doesn't
preclude
the
developer
from
allowing
the
community
the
aja
way
north
of
him
to
walk
through
the
site.
If
he
wants
to
work
out
a
gait
system,
that's
his
own
rights
and
responsibilities
and
he
can
help
promote
getting
people
to
the
gateways
there
to
the
light
rail
station.
He
doesn't
have
to
encumber
it
with
a
public
access,
easement.
D
So
so
to
the
policy
having
a
pedestrian
cross,
a
driveway
would
seem
to
not
be
a
problem
because
they're
not
a
permanent
fixture
unless
you're
setting
up
a
lemonade
lemonade
stand
permanently
there.
But
to
your
point,
you're
saying
that
you,
you
could
still
do
it.
It
just
wouldn't
be
anything
legally
on
the
books
for
the
property
and
it
still
allow
those
act,
those
folks
from
song
adorn
Commons
to
to
make
access.
If
the
developer
was
into
that
absolutely.
B
Yes,
so
I
guess
just
my
last
comment
on
that
is
for
the
folks
who
live
there.
If
there's
a
station
right
there,
they
could
see
it,
but
they
still
have
to
walk
all
the
way
around
to
get
to
it.
It's
just
it's
going
against
our
general
plan
goals
and
policies,
and
so,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
make
that
work
in
the
context
of
this
development
and
this
application
before
us,
that
would
be
really
nice.
L
This
is
also
this
project,
but
regarding
the
in
lieu
fee
for
housing,
that's
not
surprising.
I
knew
that
the
new
fee
is
usually
especially
with
the
cost
of
construction
nowadays
much
lower
than
what
it
would
cost
to
put
these
units
on
site
and
to
have
to
rent
them
at
those.
At
those
rates.
Has
there
been
any
consideration
from
staff
or
direction
from
Council
regarding
looking
at
that
fee,
in
a
way
to
account
for
the
fact
that
construction
costs
being
what
they
are?
L
O
B
M
Only
a
little
I
know:
I
gave
the
staff
a
hard
time
about
the
flat
rough
I'm,
hoping
that
humor
will
work
were
nagging,
doesn't
turning
pages
out
of
the
planned
set
and
I
one
point
I
want
to
make.
Is
the
architecture
on
this
building
really
is
extraordinary
in
the
extent
to
which
it
doesn't
look
like
a
flat
roof.
M
M
It's
gonna
be
a
very
different
look
on
bascomb
and
it's
certainly
gonna
look
a
heck
of
a
lot
better
than
ebay.
Incidentally,
ebay
has
attack
hawks
on
their
property.
I
should
warn
you
that
you
know
they
went
after
the
employees
and
you're
protected,
so
you
can't
do
anything
about
them,
but
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
something
we'll
look
at
with
a
great
deal
of
pride
flat
row
for
not,
and
so
that's.
Why
made
the
motion
I.
A
Don't
like
these
mics,
which
are
always
on
I'm,
used
to
pushing
a
button.
So
a
couple
things
first,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
community
members
that
came
out
here
and
came
out
to
the
couple
community
meetings.
I
happened
to
attend
the
first
one,
a
little
over
a
year
ago
in
June
2018,
very
heavily,
attended,
practically
standing
room,
only
lots
of
people
giving
feedback
and
then
go
into
the
various
sheets
on
the
wall
and
so
forth.
A
A
Excuse
me
in
step
back
adjacent
to
Sona,
d'or,
Commons
I,
know
that
that
doesn't
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot
of
a
setback
for
folks
that
might
be
immediately
right
there,
but
it's
better
than
we've
seen
in
a
lot
of
other
projects
which
are
kind
of
going
up
to
the
lot
line
and
as
this
was
a
signature
project
that
wasn't
required
for
them
to
come
to
the
urban
village
plan,
which
is
actually
got
watered
down
into
a
suggestion.
So
it's
not
quite
not
even
strict
there.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
I.
Think
that's
great!
A
L
You
just
a
few
comments.
I
also
want
to
echo
my
fellow
commissioners
thanks
to
everyone
from
the
public
who
came
out
tonight.
I
do
want
to
apologize
and
thank
you
for
accommodating
the
change
in
room.
We
are
definitely
not
messing
with
you.
I
promise,
but
I
know
the
City.
Hall
is
going
through
some
HVAC
updates.
Maybe
that's
what's
going
on
in
city
in
a
council
chambers,
but
thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you
for
attending.
L
Thank
you
for
speaking
and
bringing
all
of
these
issues
to
our
attention,
especially
important
for
me
to
get
input
from
people
who
live
in
the
immediate
vicinity
of
a
project
knowing
how
important
that
is
to
me
as
a
San,
Jose
native
having
been
here.
My
whole
life
I,
wouldn't
want
anyone
from
another
neighborhood
telling
me
what
what
should
go
or
what?
What
is
more
appropriate
for
my
neighborhood
I,
do
think
that
I
agree
with
my
chair
Ballard.
L
This
project
could
have
used
I,
think
more
in
intentional
and
robust
community
outreach
just
as
a
signature
project,
although
I
do
think
that
we
do
that,
the
city
could
do
a
better
job
of
defining
the
signature
project
requirements.
Frankly,
beyond
just
the
base
numbers
of
how
many
you
residential
units
or
how
much
square
footage
of
housing
like
we,
if
we're
really
going
to
call
something
a
signature
project
to
the
point
of
a
mr.
Shore
from
catalysed
sb,
we
really
need
to
call
it
a
signature
project.
L
It
really
should
go
above
and
beyond
and
the
developer,
while
we
can't
maybe
hold
them
to
certain
conditions
legally
I
do
think
that
for
a
signature
project,
we
should
ask
more.
That
being
said,
I
think
this
is
a
good
compromise.
I
think
you've
heard
that
there
are
very
conflicting
views
on
what
is
appropriate
parking
allotment
for
this
site
or
in
a
variety
of
other
areas.
So
I
think
the
developer
has
had
to
work
really
hard
with
the
community
and
with
the
city
and
to
get
something
that
works
so
I
think
it
does.
Is
it
perfect?
L
No
is
it
everything
I
would
like
to
see
from
the
site.
No,
but
then
again
to
the
point
of
someone
who
spoke,
I
have
lived
in
this
area.
My
whole
life
I
know
that
I've
known
this
site
to
be
pretty
much
blighted.
My
entire
life,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
see
something
happening
there
and
unfortunately,
for
a
dear
Dunn
senior,
it's
not
30
story
buildings,
but
that's
the
he
envisioned
one
day.
So
hey.
If
you're
worried
about
ten
stories,
it
could
have
been
a
lot
worse,
I
guess
anyway,.
E
L
B
B
You
know
we
like
to
think.
If
we
build
it,
they
will
behave
in
a
certain
way
that
we
want
them
to
behave
in
terms
of
picking,
transit
and
I.
Certainly
hope
that's
the
case,
but
I
would
I
would
love
to
and
encourage
the
developer
to
work
out
a
TDM
plan.
You
know
providing
VTA
passes
programmatic
stuff
to
do
some
hand-holding
with
the
residents
to
help
them
learn.
How
do
you
use
transit
I
know
for
myself.
It
wasn't
until
someone
showed
me
how
to
use
light
rail.
That
I
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
super
easy.
B
L
B
In
those
homes
in
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing
are
going
to
be
displaced,
and
so
you
know
we
don't
currently
have
strong
policies
that
address
that.
I
hope
that
in
the
next
year
the
city
will
be
doing
something
like
that.
I
know
that
there's
a
series
of
focus
groups
and
forums
coming
up
tomorrow
is
one
of
them
at
the
7
trees
community
center.
B
D
You,
chair
I
want
to
especially
call-out
Jennifer
poz
on
planning
staff
and
all
those
planning
staff
that
was
involved
in
the
community
meetings.
I
attended
both
of
those
meetings
and
sometimes
in
these
discussions
they
can
become
very
tense
and
dealing
with
you
know
just
dealing
with
that.
So
I
really
appreciate
staffs
ability
to
manage
those
processes.
I
think
planning
management
should
recognize
the
efforts
they
have
taken
to
do
so
and
in
addition,
it
had
the
opportunity
to
end
every
single
urban
village
meeting
of
four
Bascom,
and
this
was
always
in
a
discussion
of
this
parcel.
D
So
as
planning
commissioners,
we
have
a
very
narrow
focus
and
that's
to
approve
applications
that
fit
within
the
general
plan.
Zoning
that
come
of
professional
planning
staff
recommendations.
There
are
things
that
we
may
want,
but
we
are
not
the
body
to
enforce
things
because
that's
a
higher
level
than
us,
but
we
can
certainly
have
that
discussion
and
those
certainly
happen
at
the
community
meetings.
I
want
to
be
clear,
though,
that
you
know
the
general
plan
for
and
not
everyone
follows
it
right.
It's
a
it's
like
people.
D
What
are
that,
even
though
we
had
community
meetings
for
five
years,
I
sat
on
and
I
would
not
want
to
do
that
again
for
five
years
with
that
said
there
it's
done
with
the
intention,
based
on
state
law,
to
understand
where
we
build
and
where
we
build
housing
density
and
in
the
case
of
San
Jose,
because
60%
of
our
employed
workforce
leaves
the
city
for
work.
Our
intention
is
to
have
somewhere
to
work
within
the
city,
so
we
don't
all
have
to
drive.
D
It
was
under
mayor
hammer
where
we
decided
the
voters
wanted
to
have
an
urban
green
belt
around
the
city,
so
we
wouldn't
continue
to
grow.
It
was
under
Mayor,
Chuck
Reed
that
we
took
housing
out
of
coyote
Valley,
so
that
could
remain
an
agricultural
area.
Coyote
Valley
sits
between
San
Jose
and
Morgan
Hill
under
mayoral
Accardo.
There
was
an
initiative
to
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
housing
and
evergreen,
and
the
voters
voted
that
down,
and
so
what
that?
D
What's
that
leave
us
is
we
have
a
footprint
of
a
city
and
we're
building
within
that
city,
and
that
comes
with
density
and
in
this
particular
location,
especially
when
it's
next
to
fixed
rail
light
rail.
It
becomes
the
place
to
put
it
and
that's
just
the
reality,
and
it
may
be
uncomfortable
for
some,
but
this
process
has
been
in
at
least
for
this
parcel
for
I'm
gonna,
say
about
20
years
and,
as
always,
have
a
rendition
of
this
part.
D
So
look
like
in
the
future
and
that's
just
the
case,
the
existing
population
of
our
city,
between
when
the
general
plan
was
adopted
and
I
believe
in
2010-2011
and
between
then
and
2040.
The
existing
population
of
San
Jose
is
going
to
birth,
250,000
children.
Some
of
those
children
will
want
to
remain
here
and
you
can't
build
that
much
housing
instantaneously.
It's
in
increments
and
even
590
units
is
not
going
to
cover
what
the
growth
is
organically
with
our
cities.
So
I
just
want
to
be
understand
for
people
to
understand.
D
Why
that's
the
case,
I
I,
go
to
these
meetings,
and
people
will
complain
that
you
know
that
their
son
is
living
with
them
or
their
daughter
is
living
with
them
and
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
live,
but
the
housing
development
that's
proposed.
They
oppose
it
and
you
know,
there's
there's
that
connection
and
I
understand
it,
because
I
think
people
have
you
know,
especially
folks
that
have
been
in
San
Jose
for
decades,
you're
used
to
having
a
single-family
home
environment,
but
the
city
is
changing
and
for
the
number
of
housing
units.
D
If
you
wanted
to
build
this
in
in
neighborhoods
such
as
Palomar,
which
very
familiar
with
Mike
and
Joe
and
Lynch
who
lived
on
that
Street
for
4050
years
and
Joan
just
passed
away,
but
with
that
said,
you
would
need
a
hundred
and
sixty
acres
versus
this
is
whole
parcel.
Seven
and
I.
Think
roughly
it's
call
it
four!
That's
a
tremendous
amount
of
land.
We
don't
have
so
just
take
it
with
a
grain
of
salt
that
people
are
trying
to
plan
for
the
future,
and
it
may
not
agree
with
you.
D
But
people
are
trying
to
be
thoughtful
about
it
and
we
can
agree
to
disagree.
But
this
is,
you
know
the
role
the
city
is
playing
it
in
today's
day
and
age
and,
as
you
may
have
read
from
papers,
if
you
don't
approve
housing
in
the
state
of
California,
you
will
be
sued
by
the
state
of
California
as
a
different
cities
such
as
Cupertino
and
Huntington,
Beach,
etc.
So
I
think
my
commissioners
for
allowing
me
to
say
that,
but
I
just
feel
I
know
a
lot
of
the
folks
in
the
crowd.
I
B
O
Three
items
were
recommended
by
this
commission
to
City
Council
and
all
items
were
approved.
Specifically,
they
were
I
tend
to
point
one
six,
which
is
the
amendment
to
try
221
of
the
San
Jose
Municipal
Code
for
employment,
I
review.
It
was
approved
as
recommended
item
10.1,
a
which
is
conforming
rezoning
for
real
property
located
at
397
Saratoga
Avenue
also
approved,
as
recommended
by
the
Commission,
and
the
last
one
is
10.1
B,
which
is
conforming
rezoning
for
real
property
located
at
399
South
24th
Street
also
approved,
as
recommended
by
the
Commission.
B
B
O
D
N
B
B
D
D
Real
quick
I
know
there
was
commentary
on
only
two
community
meetings,
but
I'll
tell
you
from
my
background,
having
professional
planning
staff
at
the
meeting
versus
these
independent
meetings
that
developers
do
with
segments
of
people
or
interest
groups
I
find
that
to
be
worse
because
then
they
tell
one
person,
one
thing
and
another
person
something
else
versus
a
an
out.
A
meeting.
That's
actually
done
in
this
capacity
where
we
did
two
meetings
with
significant
outreach.
At
least
we
know
everyone's
on
the
same
page
and
we
have
professional
planning
staff.
D
That's
out
there
as
there's
a
neutral
arbiter
versus
because
I've
seen
these
meetings
where
they'll
tell
the
public
and
they
throw
the
city
under
the
bus
when
that's
not
the
case
and
I.
Think
I,
like
the
process
that
occurred
for
this,
so
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
and
secondarily
to
you,
know
things
come
to
us
right
and
people
go.
Oh
I
want
more
density,
I
want
more
density,
but
you
know
the
application
before
us
is
what
it
is
right.
D
So
I
just
want
understand
that,
from
from
the
planning
staff
point
of
view
that
each
application
that's
coming
forward,
planning
staff
is
looking
to
maximize
the
density
in
each
and
every
as
you
review
it,
because
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
what?
Because,
when
it
comes
to
the
Commission,
it's
sort
of
too
late,
oh,
it
should
be
tall
or
it
should
have
more
units.
Well,
that's
what
what's
been
approved
and
so
I'm
assuming
or
give
me
a
response.
If
you
want
that,
that's
always
looked
at
on
every
application
that
comes
forward
I.
O
B
Chimed
in
on
the
community
outreach
piece
and
because
I
don't
think
I
my
comments,
weren't,
suggesting
that
developer
outreach
is
better,
and
maybe
you
weren't
suggesting
that
I
was
suggesting
that
but
I
I,
just
I
will
I
would
love
to
see
us
and
I
know.
This
is
hard
and
I
don't
even
know
what
it
looks
like,
but
first
cities
everywhere
to
be
radically
reimagining.
What
community
engagement
looks
like
you
know,
even
this.
This
format
here
right
this
this
is
this
is
a
thing.
B
Some
people
like
it,
some
people
don't
and
so
figuring
out
ways
to
accommodate,
and
it
sounds
like
you
know.
You
guys
are
thinking
about
this
and
social
media
and
and
trying
to
provide
different
avenues
for
people
to
engage
and
I.
Think
that
there's
lots
more,
that
we
could
be
doing
and
to
really
Center
community
in
in
how
we
do
things
would
mean
we
would
do
things
differently,
so
I
mean
I,
think
the
community
meetings
are
important
and
we
have
to
do
them
and
and
there's
just
so
many
people
out
there
who
still
go
wait.
B
What
what
this
is
going
on,
they
never
hear
about
it.
Well
then,
they
might
and-
and
then
like
I've
said
before,
like
if
you
infiltrate
the
dog-walking
groups,
you
know
you're
gonna
bring
some
new
people
to
the
table.
If
you
have
the
guy
on
the
liquor
at
my
liquor,
store.
I've
said
this
before.
If
you
want
to
get
the
word
out
in
our
neighborhood
equip,
are
the
guy
at
our
liquor
store
who
owns
our
liquor,
store
to
tell
people
hey,
there's
a
community
meeting.
B
L
Sure,
if
I
could
I
am,
am
it's
actually
usually
of
my
comments
like
Jesus.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
work,
stuff
on
this
project
and
every
project
and
at
the
community
meetings,
but
except
but
no
seriously.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
all
that.
You
guys
do
I
like
to
include
in
all
my
comments,
but
I
forgot
to
thank.
N
With
the
number
of
meetings
that
it's
not
the
number
of
meetings
but
the
quality
of
the
meetings
and
then
the
follow
up
afterwards,
and
so
when
we
say
you
know
how
many
meetings
was
there
that
doesn't
fully
reflect.
Probably
all
of
the
dialogue,
I've
seen
so
many
emails
from
Jennifer,
where
she's
responding
to
the
concerns
and
forwarding
that
to
the
developer,
and
we
don't
really
see
that
component.
N
So
it's
hard
to
evaluate
from
this
position
really
what
that
dialogue
was
like
I
think
we
can
get
a
sense
of
it
from
the
comments
that
are
put
forth
and
what
the
community
members
say,
and
we
heard
today
a
lot
of
the
community
members
saying
that
they
felt
like
it
was
a
collaborative
process.
But
at
some
point
there's
just
gonna
be
people
that
want
more
parking,
less
parking,
higher
buildings,
lower
buildings-
and
you
know,
there's
gonna-
be
a
compromise
but
I
just.
A
A
Hecklers
or
a
couple
people
just
lost
it,
Ginetta
started
hollering
and
yelling
from
the
back
and
she
did
a
nice
job
of
reining.
The
meeting
in
and
having
a
focused
conversation
and
I
also
appreciated
that
your
notes
of
what
came
from
the
meeting
were
very
thorough
and
they're,
not
always
thorough,
but
you
do
a
nice
job
so
doing
good.