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City of San José, California
Public Safety, Finance & Strategic Support Committee of September 16, 2021
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A
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
and
first
item
up
will
be
the
review
of
our
work
plan.
We
do
have
one
recommendation
on
there
from
staff,
a
deferral
if
we
can
get
a
motion.
A
Second,
we
have
a
second
before
we
vote
we'll
go
to
members
of
the
public
and
just
as
a
reminder,
we're
speaking
right
now
on
the
review
of
our
work
plan,
you
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak.
D
Thank
you
very
much
really
appreciate
it.
So
basically,
I
was
interested
in
your
group,
your
commission,
because
it's
dealing
with
public
safety-
and
you
know
we
could
say
oh
well.
This
is
a
redundancy
in
regards
to
you
know
what
the
other
reimagining
safety,
but
that's
another
story,
because
we
need
a
lot
of
work
on
safety
and
the
issue
of
safety
is
very
critical
in
my
mind,
as
we
are
going
forward
in
our
climate
crisis.
A
So
we
have
a
there's,
a
specific
item
being
recommended
for
deferral
on
there,
that
you
would
have
to
speak
to.
A
So
it
is,
if
you
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
It
is
for
the
housing
and
child
care
options
for
gender-based
violence,
survivors
and
reporting
an
item
that
was
scheduled
to
be
heard
and
is
now
being
deferred.
D
Right,
oh
okay,
good!
Thank
you!
So
much
raul
really
appreciate
that:
okay,
good,
so
housing.
I
did
see
that
the
housing
and
gender
you
know
issues
okay,
good,
thank
you!
So
much,
and
so
basically
the
housing
issue
is
very
critical,
and
that
was
something
I
I
meant
to
talk
about
yesterday
in
regards
to
that,
because
we
are
not
addressing
our
housing,
everybody
says
they
are,
but
the
issue
in
my
neighborhood,
where
we're
getting
a
hotel
that
was
supposed
to
be
housing.
We
were
supposed
to
have
housing
in
our
neighborhood.
D
D
Okay
right,
yes,
you
can
say
that,
but
it's
dealing
with
housing
generically
and
the
thing
is
that
this
is
our
housing
crisis,
and
it's
it's
part
of
that
is
that
it
is
part
of
the
city's
plan
to
put
jobs
instead
of
housing,
and
that
is
what
needs
to
change.
That's
why
we
have
our
housing
crisis,
our
homeless
crisis,
because
the
jobs
need
to
go
away.
We
need
to
become
self-sufficient
and
learn
to
take
care
of
ourselves
with
our
food,
clothing
and
shelter,
and
have
universities.
A
E
All
right,
thank
you
me,
paul
and
tessa.
We
can
be
a
little
abstract,
but
our
abstractness
really
tries
to
speak
to
specific
items.
I
think
pertaining
to
agenda
matters.
E
I
just
simply
wanted
to
ask
this
is
a
gender-based
item,
housing
for
gender-based
violence
issues
and
children's
issues?
Will
this
fall
under
the
purview
of
domestic
violence
issues
and
and
and
the
work
needed
in
that
area,
and
if
it
is,
it
probably
should,
and
if
it
is,
I
just
wanted
to
offer.
You
know
I'm
learning
new
concepts
of
how
peer
review
can
work
and
how
the
city
of
san
jose
may
be
working
peer
review,
police
programs
within
the
framework
of
domestic
violence
issues
like
this
paul
soto.
E
E
So
a
reminder
that
it's
a
good
work
with
a
police
peer
review
program
that
we
do
with
domestic
violence
issues
that
I
hope
can
one
day
learn
to
expand
to
other
parts
of
the
police
and
city
and
community.
And
thanks
for
your
time.
A
A
F
Sir,
all
right,
thank
you
very
much
and
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
lieutenant
steve
donahue
and
I'm
the
commander
of
the
research
and
development
unit
of
the
san
jose
police
department
today
I'll
be
presenting
the
police
department's
bi-monthly
operations
and
performance
status
report
we're
going
to
be
covering
part,
one
citywide
crime
statistics
and
then
we'll
be
presenting
on
our
other
matters
of
interest,
including
gang-related,
violent
crime.
The
gender-based
violence
response
and
strategy
work,
plan,
update
and
update
on
redistricting
efforts.
F
F
F
Now
by
june,
that
number
had
dropped
from
49
to
just
over
23
increase
and
whether
it
was
our
efforts
or
more
people
using
their
vehicles
to
get
to
work
with
the
covid
restrictions,
lifting
or
any
combination
thereof.
It
looks
like
the
tides
have
turned,
which
is
good.
We've
gone
from
a
49
increase
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
to
a
five
percent
decrease
now,
which
is
a
good
54
swing.
F
So
we
took
a
deeper
dive
into
gang-related
violence
and
we
see
that
aggravated
assaults
have
actually
been
decreasing
over
the
last
two
years,
specifically
with
gang-related,
and
this
means
we
cannot
attribute
that
aforementioned
17
increase
in
aggravated
assaults
to
gain
crime.
Now,
while
this
doesn't
give
us
a
clear
definition
of
why
our
aggravated
assaults
increased,
it
does
eliminate
one
of
the
major
variables
that
we
would
look
at.
So
the
increase
in
violence
during
this
period
is
a
nationwide
issue.
F
In
june
july
and
august,
this
surge
was
reported
on
by
major
print
outlets,
including
the
washington
post
la
times
and
new
york
times.
It
was
on
msnbc,
cnn
fox
and
all
of
the
major
news
outlets
covered
the
increase
of
violent
crime
in
the
united
states
over
that
period,
and
so
we
look
at
the
most
noteworthy
difference
between
2020
and
2021
during
that
period
and
that's
the
lifting
of
the
coveted
restrictions,
and
so
that
is
what
we
believe
to
be
the
most
significant
factor
incentive
increased
in
aggregated
assaults.
F
Now
on
its
face,
this
number
is
alarming,
but
when
we
dive
deeper
into
the
numbers,
we
see
that
the
biggest
increases
are
in
spousal,
rape,
domestic
rape
and
domestic
attempted
sexual
assault.
So
we're
able
to
attribute
these
increases
to
the
effectiveness
of
our
intersectionality
tool,
ensuring
that
every
reporting
survivor
of
domestic
violence
is
asked
about
sexual
assault.
F
We
also
took
a
deeper
dive
into
the
rape
offenses
reports
to
ensure
that
we're
accurate
in
attributing
this
to
the
intersectionality
tool.
We
found
that
this
was
in
fact
correct,
as
you
can
see,
over
a
quarter
of
all
reports
in
2021
have
occurred
outside
this
year,
some
as
far
as
far
back
as
the
1970s.
F
There
are
no
changes
at
this
time
to
report
under
the
open
and
recently
completed
san
jose
sexual
assault,
work
items.
When
we
look
at
the
county
specific
items,
we
moved
items
three
four
and
five
from
pending
to
in
process
as
we
are
working
with
our
county
partners.
Item
number
four
on
this
list
will
occur
later
today
during
this
committee
meeting
with
lieutenant
jimenez
regarding
the
sexual
assault
bill
of
rights,
we're
continuing
to
work
through
the
process
of
implementing
the
duty
manual
sections.
F
F
This
committee
asked
us
to
return
during
the
joint
city
county
meeting
on
april
29th.
This
committee
asked
us
to
return
to
discuss
pediatric,
starts
and
report
the
findings
of
of
that
back
to
this
committee,
so
the
working
group
was
held
on
april
29th
and
I'm
sorry
on
july
26th
and
it
was
comprised
of
sexual
assault
investigations,
unit,
the
santa
clara
county
district
attorney's
office,
the
pediatric,
safe
team,
the
adult
safe
team
and
the
santa
clara
county
county
council,
and
during
this
meeting
they
developed
and
adopted
the
children's
advocacy
center
guidelines
on
pediatric
start
approvals.
F
During
the
may
and
june
time
period
there
are
65,
I'm
sorry
62
qualified
adult
starts
and
26
qualified
juvenile
sucks
of
those
88
qualified
exams.
We
saw
55
individuals
move
forward
with
the
exam
now
I'll
move
on
to
the
redistricting
update
at
this
time.
There
are
no
changes
to
be
presented
to
this
committee
on
the
redistricting
update,
we're
still
in
phase
one.
G
G
There
we
go
so,
as
you
can
see,
our
old
model
of
deployment
is
a
one
team
model
with
one
sergeant,
11
officers
and
those
officers
are
are
slated
to
work
monday
through
thursday
from
6
a.m
to
4
p.m.
G
We
recently
added
one
sergeant
and
one
officer
to
the
unit,
so
we
can
bifurcate
that
team
and
now
have
two
teams
to
give
ourselves
a
little
bit
better
deployment
model.
So
those
two
teams
will
look
like
on
the
right-hand
side
of
your
slide
will
be
one
sergeant,
six
officers
that
will
work
monday
through
thursday
from
6am
to
4pm,
and
then
we'll
have
a
second
team.
Now,
with
one
sergeant
six
officers,
they
will
work
tuesday
through
friday
and
they'll,
be
on
more
of
a
modified
swing.
Shift
deployment,
which
is
10,
am
to
8
p.m.
G
So
that'll
give
us
more
coverage
throughout
the
week.
We
cover
every
weekday
of
our
commute
monday
through
friday,
and
we
also
have
some
overlap
during
our
prime
hours
or
our
peak
hours
when
schools
are
in
session
and
we
look
at
our
most
our
most
vulnerable
times
throughout
the
day.
When
we
look
at
traffic
patterns
and
times
of
day
accident
data,
we
did
a
data-driven
deployment.
If
you
will
in
looking
at
the
hours
that
we
would
deploy
the
officers
and
how
we
would
we
would
switch
that
deployment.
G
The
implementation
of
that
will
be
by
the
end
of
this
month,
so
september
of
2021.
There
was
a
few
mitigating
factors
that
occurred
as
to
why
that
employment
didn't
take
place
a
little
bit
sooner.
We
had
a
sergeant
that
was
out
with
a
medical
emergency,
and
then
we
had
one
that
was
pulled
to
our
collateral
assignment
and
our
department
coveted
unit
detail,
but
by
the
end
of
september
we
will
have
this.
F
F
The
same
premise
applies
to
report,
writing
critical
lenses,
etc.
Now,
as
you
can
see
in
this
list,
though,
we
have
two
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
The
first
is
a
holdover
for
minimum
staffing,
and
the
second
is
what
we
call
mandatory
staffing,
and
these
are
two
separate
things.
A
holdover
for
minimum
staffing
occurs
when
an
officer
or
civilian
is
at
the
end
of
their
shift
and
they're
forced
to
stay
for
up
to
six
hours
more
to
ensure
mandatory
minimum
staffing
levels
are
reached
in
the
subsequent
shift
for
sworn
personnel
and
patrol.
F
This
leads
to
a
16-hour
day,
because
patrol
officers
were
four
10-hour
days
and
so
being
held
over
for
six
hours
at
the
end
of
your
shift
gives
you
a
16
hour
day
which,
as
we
know,
is
double
the
average
eight
hour
work
day
again.
These
holdovers
are
different
than
mandatory
minimum
staffing,
so
mandatory
staff
is
determined
determined
based
on
the
number
of
projected
employee
work
hours
versus
the
mandatory
minimum
numbers
of
staffing,
and
the
best
example
of
this
occurs
in
our
communications
division.
F
So
in
august
all
radio
dispatchers
were
required
to
schedule
and
work
22
and
a
half
hours
of
overtime
beyond
any
holdovers
or
voluntary
overtime.
While
call
takers
were
required
to
schedule
and
work
42
hours
of
overtime
in
august
it,
this
number
didn't
change
for
the
I'm
sorry.
This
number
did
change
for
the
call
takers
in
october,
where
they
were
scheduled,
35
hours
of
overtime,
whereas
the
radio
dispatchers
did
not
change,
they
were
still
scheduled.
22.5
hours
of
overtime
required.
F
F
Okay,
the
side
shows
a
list
of
all
the
secondary
overtime
assignments
and
pay
cars
at
the
department.
So
the
majority
of
these
are
worked
on
both
overtime
and
regular
time
and
as
an
example.
If
there's
a
bomb
related
incident
and
there's
an
on
duty
bomb
tech,
then
that
bombshell
will
come
handle
that
incident.
But
if
there's
no
bomb
tech
on
duty,
we
will
bring
someone
in
on
overtime
to
handle
it
because
they
have
the
special
skills
necessary
to
handle
a
bond
related
incident.
F
So
this
is
similar
when
we
have
prostitution
and
human
trafficking
operations,
they're
executed
by
both
on
duty
and
off-duty
personnel
on
overtime.
So
there's
a
small
cadre
of
officers
assigned
to
the
human
trafficking
task
force
and
they'll
work,
their
regular
shift
on
duty
to
execute
the
operation.
However,
in
order
to
do
it
safely,
you
need
to
bring
in
additional
personnel
and
to
do
that
they
will
all
be
on
overtime,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
mixture
of
overtime
and
on
duty
personnel
to
manage
those
events.
F
One
of
the
best
examples
of
this,
and
especially
pertinent
in
this
time,
is
going
to
be
sideshow
and
racing
enforcement
on
duty
patrol
personnel
will
assist
sideshows
where
or
will
address
sideshows
when
call
volume
and
severity
allows.
However,
it's
not
uncommon
for
patrol
to
be
tied
up
on
critical
incidents
and
be
unable
to
respond
to
these
slideshows.
F
So
for
that
reason
the
department's
moved
to
a
dedicated
cadre
of
officers
on
overtime,
specifically
addressing
sideshow
and
racing
enforcement
and
in
this
case
on
duty
patrol
supplements,
overtime,
personnel
and
sometimes
this
even
requires
holdovers.
So,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
this
occurred
last
weekend
when,
on
saturday,
night
and
sunday
morning
at
12
30
a.m.
F
There
was
a
major
sideshow
at
park
avenue
and
was
way
and
due
to
the
timing
of
it,
we
we
had
dedicated
racer
enforcement
units
units
from
swing
shift,
who
were
supposed
to
get
off
work
at
1am
midnight
shift
officers
who
are
in
the
middle
of
their
shift
and
entertainment
zone
officers
who
were
supposed
to
start
at
1.
Am
they
all
participated,
65
units
in
total
and
that's
where
they
were
able
to
box
all
the
cars
in
and
write
over
200
citations
and
pound
three
vehicles
and
arrested
individuals.
F
So,
ultimately-
and
probably
the
most
key
component
of
this
slide-
is
the
necessity
for
overtime
to
address
critical
aspects
of
law
enforcement
in
our
city
and
without
overtime.
We
would
not
be
successful
in
our
internet
crimes
against
children,
operations
or
walking,
beats
police
academy
instruction,
recruiting
events
or
even
deploying
our
command
vehicle
at
major
incidents,
in
contrast
to
the
work
done
on
both
overtime
and
on
on
duty,
there's
some
activities
that
exist
solely
due
to
overtime.
F
So
that's
what
this
slide
shows
right
now
our
department
is
able
to
fill
most
of
these,
but
not
all
of
them,
as
you
can
see,
under
dui
checkpoints
and
enforcement,
only
two
of
the
potential
16
dui
saturation
operations
came
to
fruition
between
october
2020
and
today,
because
that's
the
grant
year
we're
able
to
measure
that
accurately
it's
supposed
to
end
at
the
end
of
this
month.
So
the
reason
for
this
is
simple
officers
did
not
want
to
work
them.
F
They
didn't
volunteer
so
without
officers
willing
to
give
up
their
time
to
work
overtime
assignments
on
their
time
off.
They
simply
don't
happen.
So
you
can
see.
This
effect
occur
again
on
saturday
nights
in
the
entertainment
zone,
where
approximately
70
of
those
positions
are
filled
by
overtime
with
30
going
unfilled
and
when
this
occurs
it
may
be
staffed,
rarely
but
may
be
staffed
by
an
on-duty
officer.
A
Stop
sharing
right,
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation.
Yes,
sir.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We'll
go
over
to
members
of
the
public.
First,
each
member
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak
on
this
agenda
item,
which
is
the
plea,
department,
police
department,
operations
and
performance,
bi-monthly
status
report,
and
we
will
start
over
with
paul
soto.
H
H
However,
it's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
it's
a
sworn
position
versus
just
like
a
volunteer,
because
when
you're
sworn
to
it,
there's
a
there's,
a
particular
element
that
that
doesn't
exist
when
you
just
volunteer
to
go
into
work
or
not,
and
what
I'm
saying
is
I
have
an
appreciation
for
that,
because
I
know
it's
because
of
that
sworn
up
duty
position
that
you
respond,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say.
H
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
do
have
some
questions
that
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
some
staff
can
help
me
ask
to
get
answered.
Is
that
when
you
have
this
reporting
like
all
of
these
crime
statistics,
these
are
just
these
are
just
what
these
are
just
arrests.
H
H
Let
me
see
you
have
robberies:
okay,
677
robbers,
how
many
of
those
677
robberies
actually
turned
out
to
be
a
conviction
rather
than
just
a
crime
charge?
Because
I
think
if
we
have
that
kind
of
information,
then
we
can
like
better
judge
what
is
really
actually
happening
in
the
city,
because
I
I'm
pretty
sure
that
these
are
just
data
points
in
terms
of
what
crimes
were
charged
at
the
time
of
contact
with
the
police
in
terms
of
the
arrest
point,
not
necessarily
the
convictions.
I
Yeah
I'd
like
to
know
where
you
guys
find
the
budget
for
all
these
traffic
cops.
I
mean
these
are
the
worst
part
of
your
department
to
be
deploying
between
banks
on
during
bankers
hours
when
it's
clear
that
the
overnight
crime,
especially
where
I
live,
is
when
it
is.
When
is
when
the
real
crime
happens,
traffic
enforcement
is
just
gold,
bricking
and
revenue,
and
you
all
know
it.
That's
how
you
make
money,
so
you
can
give
it
to
sacramento.
You
guys,
don't
even
get
that
much
of
it's
like
gavin,
newton's
tricking.
I
You
guys
out
to
give
out
these
citations,
and
I
I
I'm
always
told
there's
not
enough
money
for
overnight
patrol
I've
been
told
that
for
the
last
10
years
and
all
of
a
sudden
magically,
this
money
starts
raining
out
for
all
this
overtime,
just
just
structured
around
traffic,
because
it's
the
only
crime
that
you
people
are
able
to
solve
that
and
the
people
driving
in
the
circle
or
someone
with
a
beer
in
their
hand.
Right.
That's
what
you
guys
do.
I
That's
why
people
don't
like
you,
because
you
guys,
you
guys
aren't
there
when
the
real
crime
happens.
Nor
do
you
press
for
prosecution,
people
have
cameras,
catching
people's
license
plates
and
facial
features.
You
guys
do
nothing
and
you
you
have
to
have
that
camera
for
you
guys
to
even
do
anything,
and
when
someone
shows
you
someone
committing
a
crime
in
the
neighborhood,
you
guys
say
you
don't
have
enough
people
to
do
it,
but
man
all
of
a
sudden
t-e-u.
I
You
know
you
want
to
use
an
acronym
because
it's
embarrassing
to
say
traffic
cop,
I
mean
when
you
think,
a
traffic
cop.
What
do
you
think
of?
I
mean
anybody
sitting
there,
including
you
mcdonogh?
What
do
you
think
of
when
you
think
a
traffic
cop?
It's
not
a
positive
thing.
Is
it
it's
a
negative
thing
and
if
you
think
that
that's
fighting
crime,
you
should
think
again.
D
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
both
you,
raul,
perales
and
chappie
jones,
for
really,
you
know,
handling
the
meetings
where
you
you
know.
Let
us
know
what
the
topic
is
and
help
us
get
back
on
topic.
So
thank
you
both
for
being
good
leaders
in
regards
to
running
these
meetings,
both
you
and
chappie.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
both,
but
getting
back
to
the
the
topic
of
policing,
and
you
know
all
the
you
know.
D
You
know
horrific
things
that
are
happening
in
our
neighborhoods
and
our
communities,
and
you
know
sexual
assaults
and
and-
and
you
know
home
home-based
assaults
between-
you
know,
husbands
and
wives,
and
you
know
things
like
that,
and
so
it's
so
disturbing,
and
I
think
we
really
you
know
they
say
that
that
kovid
brought
a
lot
more
of
that.
D
And
you
know
I
guess
that's
what
the
report
is
even
showing
us,
and
I
think
we
really
have
to
look
at
you
know,
especially
it's
costing
us
so
much
money
more
for
so
much
more
policing
and
overtime,
and
everything
like
that
to
looking
at
the
roots
of
these
problems
and
one
of
the
problems
that
really
needs
to
be
looked
at
is
universal
basic
income,
so
that
the
stresses
of
these
families
that
cause
the
violence
and
and
also
the
lack
of
protection
of
our
young
people
that
cause
sexual
assaults.
D
And
you
know
to
really
look
at
that
and
then
also
the
other
thing
that
was
so
critical.
Is
the
people
working
at
home
and
the
more
that?
That's
what
I
found
the
women
when
they
were
home
and
they
said
that
the
whole
tenor
of
their
home
and
stability
of
their
children
was
so
increased
just
by
them
being
there,
even
if
they
were
working
them
being
there.
So
these
are
the
these
are
the
externalities
that
we
say
we
need
women,
everybody
back
in
the
workplace
that
has
caused.
D
You
know
a
lot
of
the
more
increases
of
problems
in
our
homes
and
we
need
to
really,
I
say,
all
people
that
can
work
at
home.
Anybody
who
can
work
at
home
should
be
working
at
home
because
there's
benefits
to
our
family
benefits
to
our
environment
because
of
the
externalities
of
getting
to
the
workplace,
and-
and
these
are
changes
that
we
really
need
to
put
in
place.
Thank.
E
Hi
blair
beekman
here
I
wanted
to
offer
two
thoughts
about
this
item.
Thank
you
for
it,
the
first
about
overtime
issues.
Thank
you
for
an
interesting
report.
I
can
see
like
a
way
that
he
offered
this
report
that
actually
can
be
really
conducive
to.
We
have
to
be
talking
about
the
future
of
overtime
issues
and
it's
a
bit
of
a
problem
and
the
city
of
oakland
and
their
activists
occupancy
communities
really
working
together
on
the
issue
to
try
to
reach
solutions.
E
I
I
think
we
have
to
make
those
same
steps
in
this
report.
I
think
actually
tried
to
offer
a
bit
of
that.
So
thank
you
I
to
offer
just
a
simple
idea:
it's
my
understanding.
Police
officers
get
start
to
get
overtime
immediately.
After
you
know,
overtime
period
starts
in
three
hour
increments,
so
you
know
it
makes
more
sense.
E
I
know
what
you
thought
of
it
before,
but
can
we
start
to
think
of
the
ideas
of
if
a
police
officer
only
works
for
45
minutes
or
an
hour
and
15
minutes
overtime
that
he
gets
that
sort
of
compensation?
And
then,
after
a
three-hour
period,
you
can
create
a
larger
overtime
for
the
for
the
officer,
just
simple
facts:
ways
to
consider
it.
I
hope
we
can,
that
can
be
open
conversation
in
the
future
30
seconds
left,
there's
a
serious
issue,
a
debate
going
on.
E
It
sounds
like
about
the
future
of
ksi
statistics
and
how
to
talk
about
them.
Well,
I
think
some
people
in
city
government
want
to
just
be
really
honest
about
how
to
present
ksi
statistics.
Some
people
do
not,
and
I
think
we're
learning
how
to
I.
I
understand
we're
at
a
time
of
adjustment.
I
really
hope
we
can
learn
how
to
do
this
well
and
not
compromise.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Now,
come
back
to
the
committee,
we'll
go
to
councilman
jimenez.
C
C
I
think
what
would
be
most
helpful
for
me
in
the
future
to
the
extent
folks
feel
similarly,
but
I
think
after
every
segment
that's
presented,
maybe
allow
some
questions
and
then
move
on
to
the
next
section,
because
I'm
trying
to
remember
everything
that
was
shared,
there
was
a
lot
of
information
and
I'm
trying
to
think
back
to
the
proper
slide,
and
so
so
let
me
just
ask
a
few
questions
that
relates
to
what
I
recall
the
traffic
enforcement
unit.
I
know
we
went
from
one
team
to
two
teams.
C
It
seems
to
make
sense
to
me
what
I'm
curious
about,
and
I
think
one
of
the
callers
who
I
often
well
not.
I
didn't
even
necessarily
agree
with
him,
but
I
think
he
brought
up
a
point
that
came
to
mind.
For
me
is
what
can
someone
share
with
me
sort
of
what
the
what
time
of
day
we
have
the
most
sort
of
issues
as
it
relates
to
traffic
enforcement
and
how
that
played
into
deciding
that
the
two
teams
and
when
they
were
going
to
sort
of
come
on
board
and
such.
J
Okay,
council
member,
you
know
I
can
take
that
question,
so
I
I
agree.
The
caller
does
bring
up
a
good
point.
You
know,
like
our
violent
crimes,
tend
to
happen
more
overnight,
but
we
deploy
the
traffic
enforcement
units
at
the
time
when
there's
the
most
traffic
on
the
road
and
while
the
side
shows
yes,
they
do
tend
to
occur
late
at
night.
Typically
speaking,
traffic
is
heaviest
at
rush
hour.
It's
heaviest
in
the
morning.
J
It's
heaviest
in
the
afternoon
and
early
part
of
the
evening,
and
that
you
know
the
traffic
patterns
is
really
what
dictates
when
we
put
those
officers
out
there,
because
their
primary
focus
is
to
try
to
reduce
traffic,
collisions
traffic
injuries,
traffic
fatalities.
C
But
I
guess
that
begs
the
question
for
me,
then,
because
we're
essentially
going
from
a
model
in
which
we
had
12
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
the
numbers,
but
11
or
12
officers
in
that
span
from
10
to
four
or
whatever.
That
time
was
now
we're
going
to
six
officers
in
that
same
span
and
just
to
make
it
easy.
A
On
on
committee
members
on
the
public,
if
you
don't
mind
lieutenant
daniel
hugh,
can
you
share
the
slides
again
and
then,
if
we're
going
to
reference
a
slide,
we
can
just
pull
it
up.
So
I
think
that
would
be
that'd
be
helpful
and
I
think
that
was
slide.
20.
C
Who's
keeping
track
rubble.
C
So
that
that's
the
exact
slide,
obviously
so
so
6
a.m
to
4
is,
is
the
you
know
to
your
point
that
was
just
made
six
am
before
we
used
to
have
11
officers
right
and
that's
sort
of
the
times.
I
thought
that
maybe
there'd
be
a
lot
more
traffic
and
people
on
the
road
kids
are
going
into
school
during
that
time
coming
out
of
school
during
that
time
and
then
we're
going
to
separate
teams
and
then
we're
so
we're
going
from
11
officers
on
the
street
during
that
time
to
six
officers
on
the
street.
C
J
It's
to
try
to
cover
both
morning
and
and
evening
rush
hours.
C
Right
right,
I
see
that
I
see
that
now,
okay,
it's
starting
to
make
more
sense
to
me
now.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
The
other
question
I
had
was
around
overtime.
If
we
can
go
back
to
the
slide
where
it
showed
how
many
folks
are
taking
to
particular
sort
of
things
that
we're
interested
in
doing
say,
the
dui
checkpoints-
and
I
think,
there's
like
you
know,
80
filled
or
you
know,
there's
different
numbers
thrown
out
there.
What
I'm
curious
about
is
and
what
comes
to
mind.
C
As
I
see
this
is,
I
know
officers
do
what
they
call
and
I
apologize
if
this
isn't
the
proper
word
for,
but
they
did,
they
do
the
pay
jobs
right.
They
get
hired
to
go
out
and
patrol
shopping
centers,
and
they
can
sign
up
for
that
and
do
all
that
can
you
can
you
share
with
us?
How
remind
me
how
that
works.
J
Sure
so
we
have
a
secondary
employment
unit.
Employers
throughout
the
city
can
sign
up
with
the
police
department
to
hire
off-duty
officers
to
work
security,
detail
in
a
police
uniform
you
know
and
and
provide
security
to
to
a
private
facility
or
a
private
event
or
or
sometimes
a
public
event
like
the
city
will
put
on
large
public
events
that
require
road
closures
and
security
and
whatnot,
and
so
that
that's
how
that
works
and
that's
actually
separate
because
it's
paid
for
by
the
either
the
business
or
the
event.
C
Right
right,
so
I
understand
that
that
difference,
but
that
is
when
officers
choose
to
do
those
they're
doing
it
not
during
their
normal
working
hours
right.
It's.
J
C
Okay,
so
if
I
was
an
officer-
and
you
know
there
was
a
there-
was
a
gig-
you
know
I'll
just
mention
this,
because
I've
seen
and
I
have
no
officer
that
has
taken
one
of
these
jobs-
and
you
know
I've
seen
him
in
action
but
say,
for
example,
I'm
an
officer
and-
and
I'm
asking
this
just
to
better
understand
this-
I'm
an
officer
I
take
the
job
at
a
local
target.
They
hire
me
to
patrol
the
parking
lot
right.
I'm
doing
that
in
a
little
cart.
Do
you
know
working
right?
C
Is
it
safe
to
say
that
doing
that
as
compared
to
say,
for
example,
volunteering
for
overtime
at
the
dui
checkpoints
that
I
would
get
paid
more
doing
the
dui
checkpoints
than
I
would
at
the
target,
or
does
that
just
depend
on
what
the
going
rate
is.
J
C
Okay,
okay,
that's
what
I
thought.
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
is.
I
would
much
prefer
it.
I
know
this
is
obviously
it's
it's
left
to
the
own
devices
of
each
respective
officer
right
as
to
where
they
want
to
spend
their
time,
which
I
totally
respect-
and
I
understand
have
we
ever
you
know,
I'm
sure,
there's,
there's
contract
negotiations
with
bargaining
units
that
may
be
coming
to
play,
but
I
guess
I'm
curious
is
to
to.
C
Can
you
help
me
understand?
Is
there
like
a
state
law
or
some
sort
of
city
enabling
policy
that
allows
officers
to
work,
these
extra
sort
of
again
I'll
just
say,
pay
jobs,
but
outside
employment,
secondary
employment
jobs?
Is
there
something
that
allows
them
to
do
that.
J
Yes,
it's
it's
allowed
under
the
under
the
city,
ordinance
and
I
yeah.
To
be
honest,
that's
a
pretty
long
discussion
and
I
don't
have
all
the
facts
at
my
fingertips.
But
yes,
it's
been
it's
very
well
regulated
and
monitored.
We
have
a
whole
unit
within
the
police
department
that
does
nothing
but
monitor
that.
C
What
would
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
say
okay
officer,
you
you
want
to,
you
know,
earn
a
little
bit
extra
money,
you're
required
to
do
it
internally
before
you
can
go
out
and
do
these
secondary
employment
jobs.
I'm
just
curious.
If
that
conversation's
ever
come
up
and
jennifer,
I
think
you're
on
the
call.
C
So
you
know
I
know
this
is
we're
getting
into
the
weeds
here,
but
I
would
the
reason
I'm
asking
is,
I
think,
it'd
be
very
helpful,
certainly
for
the
residents
that
they've
sworn
to
represent
and
that
they
work
for
and
that
we
all
work
for
that.
If
some
of
that
time
was
more
required
internally
until
those
are
field
and
then
you
can
go
out
and
do
the
pay
jobs
or
the
secondary
employment
jobs,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
ever
come
up
during
the
course
of
negotiations
or
anything
of
that
nature.
J
You
know
I
actually
she
probably
jennifer,
probably
would
have
a
better
historical
perspective
than
I,
but,
but
I
could
tell
you
that
we're
not
running
short
of
officers
to
work
these
overtime
assignments
through
the
police
department
because
of
competition
from
secondary
employment
jobs
that
that's
not
an
issue
all
right.
Okay,.
C
Okay,
all
right,
but
it
does
seem
in
some
situations
like
you
know
I'll,
just
because
it's
at
the
top
of
of
the
slide
that
you
have
the
dui
checkpoints
that
that's
and
I
don't
see
the
number,
but
it
seems
like
not
that's
not
taking
too
well
as
as
far
as
far
as
it
goes
as
it
relates
to
the
interest
of
officers
that
do
those
overtime
jobs.
Is
that?
Maybe
I
didn't
hear
you
correctly
when
you
said
that,
but
is
that
the
case
that
it's
just
not
that.
J
That's
not
my
understanding,
but
maybe
lieutenant
donahue
can
okay,
give
us
a
little
more
information
on
that.
Yes
gee.
So
when.
F
We
look
at
what
the
biggest
kind
of
spread,
if
you
want
to
look
at,
is
these
saturation
operations.
Basically,
what
this
is
a
grant
funded
program
through
our
traffic
enforcement
unit
to
send
out
one
officer
plus
four
sergeants
per
operation.
We
had
the
funding
during
the
last
grant
cycle
to
do
16
of
these
operations.
F
So
for
every
time
an
operation
was
scheduled.
We
put
it
out
to
officers
insurgents
hey.
Do
you
want
to
come
work
this
and
of
the
16?
We
only
had
volunteers
for
two
of
them,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
the
officers
just
didn't
want
to
work
that
particular
pay
job
assignment.
It's
an
overtime
gig,
it's
not
something
that
they're
forced
to
do
and
they
get
to
choose
until
they
spend
like
you
mentioned
they're
spending
their
own
time
doing
this.
F
C
F
Not
at
all
I
I
would,
I
would
argue,
actually
that
we
would
lose
secondary
employment
to
that
because
of
the
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
going
to
get
working
it
compared
to
secondary
employment.
It's
far
lower
they'll
get
paid
for
a
secondary
employment
job
on
the
same
day
for
the
same
hours
as
they
would
working
in
a
time
and
a
half
job
for
the
police
department.
C
Yeah,
I
I
guess
the
reason
I'm
asking.
I
guess
I
try
I'm
trying
to
understand
why,
if
there's,
how
often
circumstances
exist
in
which
someone's
choosing
maybe
an
easier
secondary
employment
job
to
do
that,
even
though
you're
getting
paid
less
rather
than
go
work
some
of
the
you
know
what
we
I'm
sure
as
a
city
would
see
as
necessary
jobs
within
the
department
that
are
able
to
talk
anymore
right,
and
so
I.
F
Can
give
you
a
perfect
example?
If
you
look
at
the
entertainment
zone
on
saturdays,
we
have
six
sergeants
and
36
officers.
It's
the
second
row
there,
70
of
those
go
filled,
30
percent
unfilled
and,
ultimately,
the
reason
it's
saturday
night,
it's
busy,
there's
violence
that
occurs
and
officers
want
to
go
home
at
the
end
of
their
saturday
night
and
not
stay
an
extra
two
to
three
hours
to
work,
a
paid
job
at
the
end
of
their
shift.
They
just
want
to
go
home.
So
that's
why
some
of
those
go
unfilled.
E
J
Okay,
thank
you
remember.
If
I,
if
I
could
add
one
more
thing,
you
know
obviously
officer
wellness
is
a
concern
for
us
in
the
department
and
a
concern
for
the
community.
It's
one
of
the
six
pillars
of
president
obama's
21st
century
policing
plan
and
a
big
part
of
officer
wellness
is,
is
fatigue
and
and
how
much
you
work,
and
so
you
know,
obviously
there
there
is
a
cost
to
having
officers,
work,
lots
and
lots
of
overtime,
and
I
think
the
officers
are
probably
some
of
the
best
regulators
of
that.
J
You
know
when
they
when
they
are
feeling
like
okay,
I'm
done.
I
don't
really
want
to
work
anymore
overtime,
that
that
is
a
time
when
they
can
choose
to
take
care
of
themselves
by
just
simply
not
signing
up
for
additional
voluntary
overtime.
You
know,
unlike
the
the
holdovers
which
are
mandatory,
which
they
have
no
choice
in
these
voluntary
positions.
You
know
that's
where
they
can
choose.
You
know
to
go
home
and
be
with
their
families
and
rest
and
exercise,
and
do
all
the
things
that
you
know
make
a
complete
whole.
Well
person.
C
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
and
I
recognize
just
inherently
that
we
all
the
department,
as
well
as
the
city
and
the
residents
of
the
city,
benefit
from
sort
of
self-regulating
sort
of
officers.
That
know
when
it's
time
to
let
let
me
go
home
and
not
be
out
on
the
street
when
I'm
fatigued
or
not
thinking
clearly
whatever
it
may
be
right.
So
I
appreciate
that.
I
thank
you
for
that,
and
this
is
just
again.
C
These
questions
are
just
to
get
a
better
understanding
as
to
how
some
of
this
happens
but
okay,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
for
the
clarity.
I
appreciate
it.
A
I
think
you
and
nice
mary
jones.
K
Thank
you,
chair,
going
to
page
four
when
I
see
the
burglary
number
for
january
through
july,
I
am
actually
one
of
those
numbers
so
for
for
me
it
was
an
increase
of
100
for
for
that
period.
K
So,
but
my
my
question
first
first
is
actually
a
request
for
the
traffic
enforcement
unit.
I
know
that
I
hear
a
lot
from
my
residents
and
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
do
as
well
around
traffic
around
schools
and
speeding
and
parents
doing
illegal
drop-offs,
and
so
my
request
is
if
we
can
have
a
focus
on
on
schools
and
school
traffic,
because,
obviously
you
know
we
want
to
protect
the
safety
of
our
students
who
are
coming
and
going
from
school
as
well
as
making
sure
that
the
parents
behave
properly.
K
I
wanted
to
touch
on
the
overtime,
there's
a
perception,
whether
it's
fair
or
not,
that
overtime
hours
or
misused,
overused
inefficient,
and
my
question
to
the
chief
joseph
is:
is
that
an
accurate
description,
particularly
looking
at
the
primary
overtime,
the
secondary
overtime?
K
So
my
question
first
question
to
you
is:
is
that
a
fair
perception
and
then
the
second
question
to
you
is:
how
can
we
or
are
there
ways
to
reduce
the
amount
of
overtime
and
still
deliver
the
same
level
of
service
to
our
constituents?.
J
Well,
so
one
of
the
things
that
chief
mata
has
done
is
require
that
any
discretionary
overtime,
meaning
things
other
than
you
know,
follow-up,
mandatory
holdovers
report,
writing
court
and
all
those
things
any
discretionary
overtime
be
approved
at
the
captain
level,
so
that
just
gives
us
another
level
of
oversight
and
another.
You
know
set
of
eyes
on
what
people
are
doing
for
the
overtime
that
they're
getting.
J
J
That's
part
of
what
got
mcat
off
the
ground.
As
you
see
that's
what
pays
for
the
dui
checkpoints
and
things
like
that?
We
try
to
use
our
technology
as
best
as
we
can
to
be
sort
of
a
force
multiplier
for
us.
You
know
the
v5
technology
out
in
your
district
is
a
great
example
of
that,
where
it's
a
set
of
eyes,
that's
there
all
the
time
that
you
know.
We
can't
position
a
police
officer
in
that
neighborhood
constantly
and
so
that
you
know
anything
we
can
do
with
technology
is
helpful
to
us.
J
We
try
to
make
the
best
use
of
civilian
employees
in
place
of
police
officers
where
possible
that
you
know
the
community
service
officer
program
was
born
out
of
a
need
to
increase
the
amount
of
manpower
in
the
police
department
without
hiring
more
sworn
police
officers,
and
that's
that's
proven
to
be
an
outstanding
program
that
provides
great
service
to
the
community
at
a
lower
cost
for
those
types
of
jobs
or
assignments
or
tasks
that
don't
need
a
sworn
police
officer.
J
We're
trying
to
use
civilian
employees
in
our
bureau
of
investigations
to
do
tasks.
That
again,
don't
require
a
sworn
police
officer
to
do.
If
there's
a
place
where
we
can
put
a
san
jose
police
officer
on
a
task
force
which
would
give
us
a
greater
greater
control-
or,
I
should
say,
greater
effectiveness
within
our
city
borders
by
bringing
in
other
officers
from
other
agencies
to
focus
on
san
jose
problems,
we've
it
we're
exploring
any
task
force
collaboration
with
other
agencies.
That
can
be
helpful
to
us,
but
I
mean
the
bottom
line.
J
Is
we
only
have
so
many
police
officers?
And
if
we're
going
to
do
the
things
that
the
community
expects
us
to
do
and
wants
us
to
do
such
as
crackdown
on
sideshows
prostitution,
gang
crime
in
the
city
and-
and
you
know-
have
have
officers
out
on
foot
patrols
and
things
like
that.
We
don't
have
the
staffing
to
do
it
with
the
manpower
we
have.
So
I
mean
I.
K
Second
part
of
that
is,
I
did
a
little
quick
back
of
the
envelope
calculation,
so
we're
spending
40
million
dollars
in
overtime.
We
spent
40
million
in
overtime
last
year.
If
we
just
took
half
of
that
amount,
I
calculated
that
we
could
hire
approximately
100
new
officers.
K
Why
haven't
we
or
are
we?
You
know
evaluating
that
as
a
potential
strategy
to
reduce
over
time
as
increase
the
number
of
allocated
positions,
and
how
do
we
get
there.
J
Well,
I
would,
I
would
love
to
get
there.
I
would
love
to
to
discuss
that
and
I
think
for
a
variety
of
reasons
and
I'm
assuming
that
your
math
is
correct
on
that
and
I'm
not
100
certain,
but
I
didn't.
K
B
Actually,
all
can
I
jump
in
on
this
one,
putting
my
old
budget
hat
on.
So
the
issue
with
this
council
member
is
that
the
base
ongoing
overtime
for
the
department
is
much
lower
than
the
actual
amount
of
expenditures
the
than
the
40
million
that
they've
been
spending.
As
of
late
that
I'm
gonna,
I
don't
lisa,
I
think-
might
have
the
exact
number,
but
it's
probably
half
that
or
the
20.
B
Some
million
dollar
range
and
they've
been
using
vacancy
savings
to
help
boost
up
their
overtime
as
they've
been
trying
to
work
through
getting
officers
street
ready
so
that
the
vacancy
savings
has
been
going
on
to
the
overtime
line
at
it,
which
has
allowed
them
to
spend
up
to
the
40
million
or
over
40
million
for
the
last
many
years.
But
you
know
so:
we've
got
to
get
it
down
to
get
them
within
their
ongoing
base
over
time
before
we
could
actually
consider
taking
the
ongoing
dollars
and
then
transferring
them
to
hiring
staff.
B
So
that's
the
that's
the
issue
and
that
we're
dealing
with,
and
so
I
know
as
we're
trying
to
hire
ahead
and
we
need
to
keep
investing
in
the
hiring
head
and
we
only
have
this
is
the
last
year
of
the
higher
head
money.
We
only
had
two
years
worth
it.
We've
really
got
to
seriously
consider
the
higher
ahead
program
we'd
like
to
get
it
probably
ongoing
into
the
budget.
B
We've
only
got
it
funded
on
a
one-time
basis,
and
I
think
it
was
about
seven
million
for
the
last
two
years-
seven
million
per
year
for
the
last
two
years,
but
at
some
point
then
they
can
reduce
that
reliance
on
that
when
they've
got
the
street
ready
positions,
but
that's
the
problem
is
they've
had
to
work
their
way
out
of
being
very
short
staffed
and
not
street
ready.
So
hopefully
that
helps
hopefully
chief
joseph.
B
I
helped
on
that
one
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
it's
not
something
that
I
think
you
just
can't
take
the
one-time
vacancy
savings
and
transfer
that
in
when
we're
trying
to
be
in
a
higher
head
scenario,.
K
Thank
you,
jennifer
and
I'll
speak
for
joseph
and
say
that
that
did
help
the
concept,
though
the
basic
concept
is
still
the
same,
whether
it's
filling
vacancies
or
increasing
budget
staffing
levels,
just
the
whole
concept
of.
K
J
Well,
you
know
I
think,
back
to
when
I
started
here.
I
started
in
1994
and
I
would
I
would
pass
a
sign
every
day,
driving
down
the
freeway.
That
said,
you
know
welcome
to
san
jose
population,
775
000,
and
we
had
about
1400
police
officers,
and
now
we
have
a
little
over
1100
and
we
have
over
a
million
people.
So
we
you
know,
we,
the
city,
the
city,
council,
the
mayor's
office,
the
city
manager's
office
and
the
police
department
itself
have
done
an
amazing
job
of
getting
rebuilding
from
a
place
of.
J
I
think
we
went
as
low
as
around
maybe
850
police
officers
at
one
point
back
up
to
the
current
number,
where
we
are
now
which
is
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
11.50,
but
that
doesn't
really
account
for
the
fact
that
that's
still
about
two
to
three
hundred
less
than
we
had
when
we
had
250
000
fewer
people.
So
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
challenge
and
right
now
we're
staying
constant,
but
we're
not
we're
not
really
growing
with
the
city.
K
Understood
last
question:
we're
in
the
process
of
implementing
several
council
and
city
policies
like
vaccine
mandates
for
city
employees
and
other
policies,
and
my
question
to
you
chief,
is
what
would
be
the
impact
if
we
lost
10
officers,
20
officers
25
officers?
What
would
be
the
impact
to
overtime
as
well
as
just
the
ability
to
deliver
police
services
to
our
community.
J
Well,
you
know,
first
of
all,
let
me
just
say
that
you
know
we.
We
hope
that
every
city
employee,
including
those
in
the
police
department,
get
vaccinated
for
for
their
safety
for
the
safety
of
those
they
come
in
contact
with,
and
we
strongly
encourage
that
and
are
doing
all
we
can
to
to
make
sure
that
that
happens,
but
obviously
people
all
over
the
country
have
strong
feelings
on
this,
and
if,
if
there
are
folks
that
no
longer
are
either
either
are
temporarily
suspended
or
no
longer
working?
J
Here
I
mean
that's,
that's
simply
compounding
the
problem
that
we
already
face
and
it's
gonna
result
in
a
greater
amount
of
overtime,
because
you
know
the
we
haven't.
We
have
to
stop
the
streets.
We
have
to
put
officers
in
patrol
a
minimum
number
every
day
to
answer
9-1-1
calls
and-
and
that's
that's
our
primary
focus
and
so
whether
we
depending
on
how
many,
if
we
lose
any,
hopefully
we
don't
lose
any.
J
Hopefully,
everybody
gets
vaccinated
and,
and
life
goes
on
here,
but
if,
if
we
do
lose,
some
we'll
have
to
make
accommodations
for
that
either
by
shifting
people
from
other
non-patrol
assignments
or
shifting
you
know
having
having
more
folks
work
overtime
or
you
know,
I
don't
know
this-
I'm
not
sure
the
particulars
of
being
able
to
change
the
work
schedule.
I
don't
know,
I
really
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
do
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
don't
cross
that
bridge.
K
Thank
you.
I
saw
a
report
just
recently
that
covet
now
is
the
number
one
cause
of
death
for
law
enforcement
officers.
So
hopefully
that
that
message
is
being
communicated
to
the
rank
and
file
that
you
know
they
they
need
to
get
vaccinated.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
council
member
adenis,.
L
Office
notice.
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
report.
I
was
trying
to
get
all
up
to
date
and
read
every
bit
of
this
report
because
we
just
got
in,
and
so
I
may
have
some
follow-up
questions
on
a
separate
occasion
or
because
I
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
ask
all
my
questions
right
this
very
minute,
but
I'm
gonna
start
with
with
gratitude,
because
I
am
absolutely
grateful
and
I
think
this
is
a
message
I
shared
with.
L
All
of
you
is
that
I'm
really
grateful
the
progress,
the
movement
that
that
the
pd
department
has
made
and
towards
creating
and
memorializing
and
integrating
a
lot
of
the
center-based
victim
based
approaches
to
the
work
that
you're
all
doing
investigative
and
on
patrol,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
captain
jimenez.
L
I
think
it's
the
first
time
I'm
gonna
call
him
captain,
because
I
haven't
seen
him
in
a
in
a
bit.
So
congratulations
for
that
promotion.
I
completely
understand
it
and
as
well
as
you
know,
I
I
I'm
sorry
that
I
think
lieutenant
anderson
is
moving
on
from
one
unit
to
the
other,
but
I
know
the
the
talent
continues
to
stay
within
our
department
and
that's
what
really
matters,
and
so
just
thank
you
so
much
for
for
all
the
really
good
work
that
you're
all
doing,
and
so
in
line
with
that.
L
I
know
that
I
think
it
was
donahue.
You
had
shared
earlier
about
how
we're
moving
from.
L
First
of
all,
it
was
at
the
meeting
that
you
all
had
with
the
d.a
and
the
child
advocacy
center
and
lots
of
other
players
that
deal
with
survivors
and
at
that
meeting,
and
thank
you
for
for
having
that
meeting
through
through
the
summer.
At
that
meeting.
One
of
the
I
think
one
of
the
items
that
resulted
from
it
is
to
change
our
language
from
the
start
exam
to
safe
exam,
which
is
something
that
is
like
a
federal
terminal
terminology
and
and
also
it
it
it.
L
L
At
least
an
acronym
can
can
relay
some
sense
of
assurance
to
to
those
survivors,
and
so
I'm
grateful
that
this
is
all
moving,
although
in
that
direction,
although
I
did
continue
to
see
the
sort
terminology
in
this
presentation-
and
so
I
know
we're
just
beginning
to
to
move
towards
it,
I
hope
that
we
can
continue
to
move
completely
and-
and
I
know
once
you
embrace
something-
I
know
you
you
go
110,
so
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
that
really
stood
out
to
me
was
the
on
slide.
L
On
that
reporting,
it
looks
like
one
of
my
questions
is:
what
is
the
standard?
What
do
we
expect
in
terms
of
every
year?
We
should
see,
I
don't
know
20
of
reporting
outside
of
the
when
the
occurrence
actually
happened.
F
Councilmember,
thank
you
for
your
question
before
I
answer
that,
if,
if
you'll
allow
me
to
apologize
for
the
start
safe
issue
on
the
slides
I'll
make
sure
that
in
the
future
it
says
safe
and
said
it
sorry,
I
apologize
for
that.
L
F
Thank
you.
I
can
tell
you
this
that
we
have
not
done
a
deep
dive
into
say
the
last
10
or
15
years
of
a
current
year,
reporting
out
like
we
did
for
this
presentation.
We
wanted
to
look
and
see
if
our
theory
on
the
power
of
the
intersectionality
tool
held
water,
and
so
that's
what
we
did
here
is
we
look
to
say:
okay,
what's
being
reported
to
us
when
is
it
being
reported
and
then
what
year
was
the
act?
F
That
precipitated
the
report
and
that's
how
we
see
here
that
we're
getting
this
huge
spread
of
events
that
have
occurred
like
you
can
see
here
in
the
slide
from
1970
all
the
way
up
until
2021.,
so
we
don't
have
a
historical
perspective,
all
the
way
back.
You
know
10
15
20
years,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
so
we
don't
have
that
standard
that
you're
asking
for
that
20
kind
of
standard,
but
I
do
know
that
what
we're
doing
now
is
working
lieutenant
jimenez
will
be
on
later.
F
L
I
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
I've
asked
already
is
for
us
to
not
only
take
a
look
at
intimate
partner,
violence
incidents
so,
and
I
absolutely
I'm
grateful
that
there
is
this
intersectionality
tool
that
we
are
now
recognizing
when
we,
when
your
patrol
officers,
arrive
at
what
we
normally
call
a
domestic
violence
incident,
but
I'm
gonna
call
it
an
intimate
partner
incident
that
we
ask
about
sexual
assault,
because
we
know
that
there
is
an
intersectionality
now,
when
you
also
respond
to
sexual
assault
incidents.
L
I'd
love
to
have
the
question
also
asked
the
the
other
way,
which
you
know
is
this.
Obviously
somebody
who
might
be
at
risk
for
sex
work,
human
trafficking
and
and,
of
course,
the
domestic
violence
or
the
intimate
partner
of
violence,
because
usually
a
rape
or
a
sexual
assault
is
connected
with
violence,
and
so
I'd
like
for
that
also
to
be
explored.
L
Can
we
get
this
on
as
part
of
our
gender-based
violence
work
plan.
F
I
know
that
we
are
actually
in
the
process
of
this.
I've
actually
seen
a
draft
of
the
new
form
that
already
incorporates
this
into
human
trafficking
investigations,
and,
like
you
mentioned
right,
it
was
very
one-directional
unidirectional
when
we
go
to
a
domestic
violence
and
ask
about
sexual
assault.
Well,
now
we're
going
to
do
the
opposite,
we're
going
to
ask
about
domestic
violence
and
then
a
third
way
asking
about
human
trafficking
in
all
three
scenarios
in
the
triangle.
F
L
L
By
the
way,
the
graph
on
on
on
page
nine
is
a
little
confusing
because
it
has
the
277
reported
within
the
occurring
year,
and
then
it
goes
down
to
2020
and
then
it's
35
and
I'm
not
sure
what
what
that
reference
is
to.
F
The
reported
within
the
occurred
year
is
the
277
has
occurred
in
2021
and
reported
in
2021.
in
2021,
then
so
so
what
you're
looking
at
is
that
tall
bar
on
the
left
there.
That
shows
you
that
that
that
277
said
when
we
received
277.
B
F
Okay,
so
should
I
wait
for
councilman
marinus
to
reconnect
her.
F
No
problem,
so
if
you
look
at
that,
the
tall
gray
bar
on
the
left,
that's
saying
that
277
reports
of
sexual
assault,
rape
incidents
occurred
in
2021
and
were
reported
in
2021..
The
next
bar,
that's
only
35
tall.
What
that's
showing
is
that
they
were
reported
in
2021,
but
they
occurred
in
2020.
F
L
L
I
appreciate
that
that
you're,
pointing
out
the
reported
outside
of
the
occurring
year
it
looks
like
in
2018
it
was
83
and
2020.
It
was
98
and
2021.
There
was
an
increase
of
110.,
and
so
I
you
know
I
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
this
intersectionality
tool,
but
I
don't
want
it
to
be
the
only
thing
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
other
work,
that's
being
done
within
the
units
that
are
contributing
to
that.
L
It's
asking
not
only
these
questions
when
there
was
an
incident,
but
there's
also
training
that
has
enhanced
our
patrol
folks
and
you
know
the
the
changes
in
the
the
rape
offenses,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
that
you're
you're
capturing
that
I'd
like
for
it
to
flow
the
other
way
in
terms
of
also
asking
the
same
questions
to
survivors
of
of
sexual
assault
and
human
trafficking
or
sex
work.
L
So
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
slide
eight,
and
here
it
has.
I
guess
I'm
I'm
gonna
try
to
figure
out
what
what
is
the
uniform
crime
reporting
rape
offense.
That
is
not
being
reported
to
the
federal
government.
That's
on
this
list.
F
Under
rape
for
the
ucr
reporting,
it
includes
other
sexual
assault
types
that
are.
F
Let
me
I
can
get
you
the
actual
section,
but
basically
it
used
to
be
just
sexual
assault,
being
rape,
rape,
but
now
it's
encompassing
all
different
kinds
of
sexual
assault.
So
if
you'll
give
me
a
few
minutes,
I'm
sure
lieutenant
jimenez
can
also
speak
to
this,
but
I
can
look
up
the
actual
term,
real
quick
for
you
from
ucr.
L
Sure,
well
I
I
did
look
at
that
definition
and
the
definition
is
the
penetration,
no
matter
how
slight
of
the
vagina
or
anus
with
any
body
part
or
object,
or
oral
penetration
by
a
sex
organ
of
another
person
without
the
consent
of
the
victim,
and
so
that
includes
that
would
include
sodomy
or
copulation
foreign
object
and
obviously
rape
is
sodomy
and
foreign
objects.
So
I'm
not
sure
why
that's
being
broken
down
separately
and
and
the
the
the
apostrophes
that
are
around
the
the
word.
L
Rape
to
me
don't
fare
well
because
this
all
of
the
I
think
all
of
these
listed
on
this
list
are
part
of
the
the
ucr
reporting,
and
even
if
maybe,
if
it
was
the
attempted
sexual
assaults,
then
maybe
what
the
title
could
be
is
attempted
sexual
assaults,
slash
rape,
offenses
and
not
put
these
in
quotation
marks.
L
F
F
Okay,
so
the
reason
they're
at
the
top
of
the
title
is
because
rape
by
definition
according
to
ucr,
encompasses
all
these
things,
but
rape
by
colloquial
definition
doesn't
so.
The
general
public
would
believe
that
if
we
were
to
report
on
rape
offenses,
it
would
just
be
the
actual
act
of
rape,
as
defined
in
colloquial
terms.
However,
because.
L
Because
if
I
was
raped
with
a
foreign
object,
I
would
call
it
rape,
no
matter
what
and-
and
I
think
we
need
to
adopt
the
the
new
definition-
and
this
is
this
new
definition
is
striving
towards
equity,
for
men
and
for
women,
and
so
I'd
really
like
those
quotation
marks
taken
off.
All
of
these
items
are
under
the
the
the
ucr
definition
of
rape,
and
so,
if
you
can
put
rape
and
then
you
can
break
down
the
kind
of
rape
that
it
was,
I
think
that's
appropriate.
L
I
don't
want
to
continue
to
perpetuate
what
it
colloquially
we
perceive
as
rape
legally,
it
is
what
is
what
really
matters,
and-
and
that
also
implies
that
socially
we're
also
going
to
uphold
that
same
definition,
which
is
a
a
a
change
that
we
must
make
not
only
in
our
minds,
but
also
in
the
way
that
we
approach
these
incidents
when
we
are
responding
to
them.
A
B
Yeah,
you
know
what
I
think
it
worked
itself
out.
I
was
just
gonna
offer
some
distinction
on
the
types
of
rape
and
and
if,
when
you
look
at
the
chart
on
page
eight-
and
they
have
the
different
rows,
if
you
will,
those
are
all
corresponding
to
separate
penal
code
sections.
So,
while
ucr
refers
to
these
as
rape,
it
is
a
an
umbrella
term
or
a
collective
term
that
encompasses
the
specific
sexual
assault
crimes
which
are
categorized
by
these
separate
rows.
So
you
know
domestic
rape.
B
If
a
husband
forces
intercourse
on
his
wife
is
gonna,
be
one
penal
code
section
versus
penetration
with
a
foreign
object,
so
those
are
some
of
the
distinctions
there.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
helpful
to
the
conversation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
context.
Thank
you.
L
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
that
response.
I
think
that
my
point
is
still
still
stands,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
and
hope
to
not
see
rape
ever
in
quotation
marks.
The
last
thing.
L
I
think
I
covered
our
san
jose
work
items
and
I'm
going
to
the
gender-based
work
plan.
This
is
on
page
11..
L
Once
again,
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
perales
for
for
his
advocacy
on
sexual
assault,
bill
of
rights
and
and
not
having
that
on
a
long
list
of
priority
items,
and
so
I'm
really
pleased
to
continue
to
see
that
there's
progress
here.
The
the
the
last
thing
is:
there's
an
expanded
trauma,
informed
care,
training
to
reflect
patterns
of
stress
and
trauma
for
children
and
incorporate
survivor,
centered
strategies.
F
L
Okay,
I
I'm
more
than
happy
to
connect
you
for
the
whole
range
of
adult,
from
infant
to
adolescence.
There's
different
agencies
that
have
expertise
in
different
time
frames
of
development,
and
so
I
would
encourage
a
first
five
as
well
as
the
county
has
a
wonderful
mental
health
department
that
has
some
some
great
health,
mental
health
experts
and
and
I
can
send
a
referral
or
a
follow-up
on
that.
L
The
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
I
know
I
said
it
was
going
to
be
the
last
thing,
but
this
is
actually
the
last
thing,
and
that
is
I.
I
got
this
email
and
I
believe
my
my
colleague
of
mine
also
received
it,
and
it
was
very
alarming.
L
It
came
from
dr
bauer
and
she
talked
about
you
know
we
have
safe
zones
for
our
schools
and
for
our
community
centers
and
and
parks,
and
when
we
had
our
learning
pods
around
the
libraries
that
had
learning
pods
so
that
we
could
clear
some
of
the
unhoused
community
that
was
surrounding
that
particular
facility
and-
and
so
that
was
integrated.
L
I
think,
since
last
year,
although
she's
expressing
some
support
for
a
number
of
schools
that
have
had
issues
where
there's
folks
who
are
coming
on
site,
who
are
going
into
the
cafeteria
and
coming
out
of
the
cafeteria
without
you
know
being
without
any
mask
and
without
you
know,
without
being
there
with
any
authority,
and
just
this
last
weekend
there
was
a
rape
that
was
reported
by
one
of
the
parents,
and
dr
bauer
only
knew
about
this,
because
a
parent
called
her
sister
college
junior
high.
L
L
And
so
I
I
would
I'm
going
to
include
and
you'd.
Let
me
know
chief
mata
who
to
include
in
this
email,
but
in
my
response
I'll
include
whoever
you
asked
me
to
so
that
we
can
continue
to
to
work
with
our
schools
and
provide
that
presence,
specifically
at
some
of
the
schools
that
dr
bauer
has
indicated
and
and
in
particular,
when
there
is
a
a
sex
offense.
L
So
is
there
a
way
that
that
the
superintendents
of
school
districts
can
learn
about
some
of
the
sexually
based
incidents
that
happen
in
around
the
school?
When
they're,
it's
not
happening
during
school
hours,.
M
Your
council
member,
thank
you
for
that
question
and
each
superintendent
in
each
school
actually
has
their
liaison
with
our
school
liaison
unit,
which
keeps
them
informed
and
updated
as
to
any
violence
in
and
around
the
schools,
and
that's
something
that
you
know
we've
done
for
years.
M
We
can
look
into
this
specific
incident,
absolutely
to
see
what
was
done
or
what
wasn't
done
and
definitely
we
can
work
through
the
school
liaison
unit
in
crime
prevention
and
we,
if
we
need
to
bring
in
the
bureau
of
investigations,
to
provide
any
training
because
obviously
they're
they
are
mandated
reporters.
We
can
re-up
that
training
to
see
how
that
needs
to
be
reported
and
then
also
bridge
up
again
with
the
school
liaison
folks.
So
they
have
timely
information.
L
I
appreciate
that
I
actually
had
a
meeting
not
too
long
ago
with
the
east
side,
union,
high
school
district
and
the
d.a,
and
some
of
the
school
liaison
representatives,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
are
that
is
happening
is
because
some
schools
have
chosen
not
to
have
on-site
officers,
then
that
kind
of
ear
to
the
ground
is
lost,
that
relationship
building
with
the
students
are
lost,
and
so
information
doesn't
get
related
as
quickly
as
it
normally
would
have,
because
now
we're
leaving
it
to
administrators
whose
expertise
are
not
differentiating
between
what
is
a
a
felony
based
fight
and
just
a
a
a
regular
school
fight
right.
L
And
so
so.
I
think
this
also
may
have
a
a
certain
gap.
I
I
don't
know,
but
I'm
happy
to
to
support.
And,
however,
this
makes
a
difference,
understanding
that
there
is
a
gap
for
for
other
school
districts
and
jennifer.
I
just
like
to
have
that
commitment
from
prns
to
respond
to
some
of
these
safe
zones,
so
that
some
of
the
there
could
be
some
clearance
for
the
unhoused
around
the
schools.
L
Perfect,
thank
you
and
I
I
move
to
approve.
A
A
So
I'll
have
a
couple
and
appreciate
the
the
presentation
and
in
the
dialogue
as
well
and
then
going
backwards
on
some
of
the
comments
just
in
thinking
of
the
challenges
that
that
we're
having
actually
I'm
hearing
it
as
well,
especially
from
the
school
liaison
sergeant
in
regards
to
the
challenges
that
schools
are
having
not
just
with
the
unhoused
as
we've
had
for
you
know
years
as
we
know,
but
predominantly
this
past
year
due
to
covetous,
you
know
we're
getting
back
to
in-person
schools
and
we
did
make
that
a
priority
to
try
and
clear
them
around
schools.
A
But
much
as
we
know,
if
we
don't
provide
an
alternative
location
for
somebody
to
go
a
lot
of
times,
they
just
return
back
to
the
same
area
and
we're
seeing
that
around
schools
as
well.
So
it's
we're
we're
sort
of
back
in
that.
I
think
really
that
cycle,
that
that
has
no
end
and
doesn't
quite
work.
A
Unfortunately,
and
additionally,
I
know
that
a
lot
of
these
schools,
a
number
of
them
that
are
having
other
challenges,
including
with
unhoused
in
and
around
or
coming
onto
campus,
they
have
given
up
their
school
resource
officers
and
so
they're
they're
lacking
that
resource
and
now
dependent
on
a
call
for
service
if
they
need
it
and
a
lot
of
times
those
are
taking.
You
know
hours
for
somebody
to
to
be
able
to
respond
and
again
I'm
hearing
from
our
school
liaison
sergeant
in
regards
to
some
of
those
challenges.
A
You
know
how
are
they
going
to
deal
with
some
of
the
the
issues
on
campus
if
it's
not
going
to
be
with
school
resource
officers,
because
you
know
just
being
able
to
call
in
9-1-1
or
or
depend
on
on
police
officers
as
a
an
as-needed
resource
is
not
going
to
be
very
timely,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
already
seen-
and
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
school
year.
A
Looking
at
the
statistics
to
try
to
clarify
if
you
could
bring
up
the
the
presentation
again
and
and
trying
to
clarify
some
of
the
concerns
that
councilman
radena's
had
on
slide.
Eight.
A
So
I
understand
her
concern.
I
think
you
do
as
well
now
in
regards
to
the
the
quotation
marks
around
rape,
and
I
understand
why
you
were
you
know
why
you
had
done
that,
what
the
intent
was
and
then
it's
obviously
an
easy
fix.
But
I
think
the
getting
to
the
to
the
understanding
of
the
data
is
also
important
on
how
we
might
report
it
going
forward.
A
So
in
this
slide,
what
we're
looking
at
is
is
a
total
of
407
for
2021
january
to
july,
and
and
and
that
would
be
all
things
now
legally
considered-
rape
correct
each
one
of
these
categories,
or
is
there
or
or
would
the
attempts
not
be
included
in
that.
F
A
Okay,
so
I
think
yeah
just
provide,
hopefully
the
clarity,
I
think,
if
we
as
we
have
these
slides
moving
forward,
I
think
so
that
way,
it
is
very
clear
for
anybody.
That's
reading
it
that
that
all
of
these
are
are
under
the
legal
reporting
type
of
rape,
and
that
we're
saying
that
you
know
under
that.
If
we
wanted
to
have
more
specific
data
on
how
many
of
those
rape
reports
included
or
worse
sodomy
included
or
were
oral
cop
or
foreign
object,
then
that's
what
this
slide
is
essentially
demonstrating.
A
Is
that
it's
breaking
down,
but
but
overall
the
total
inclusion
would
be
407
or
a
rape,
and
I-
and
I
actually
would
appreciate
continuing
to
see
this
breakdown,
but
I
I
think
I
agree
with
councilmember
dennis
as
well.
That
sort
of
you
know
the
sense
that
somehow
any
one
of
these
are
somehow
lesser
or
or
should
be
deemed
as
lesser.
A
I
think
now
changed
with
as
legally
as
well
as
we're
as
we're.
Looking
at
you
know
the
actual
ucr
at
least
crime
reporting
and
or
criminal
offense
categories.
I
think
our
penal
code
right
still
has
individual
sections,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
still
to
still
see
it
broken
down
like
this.
We
can.
We
can
drop
the
quotes,
though.
F
Absolutely
I'll
take
the
quotes
off.
Would
it
be
all
right
if
I
called
it
something
the
effect
of
rape,
reported,
offenses
or
rape
defined
defenses
or
something
to
that
effect?
Would
that.
A
Ucr
defined
rape,
offenses
yeah.
I
think
that
that
okay,
you
know
that
would
be
more
specific
as
to
what
it
is
yeah.
Okay,
I
can
take
care
of
that
no
problem
and
then,
if
you
can
go
to
the
the
overtime
slide,
let
me
see
which
one
here.
A
The
secondary
overtime
and
paid
cars
slide
that
one
or
23
or
24,
quite
frankly,
wanted
to
speak
to
to
overall
some
of
the
the
challenges
we
see
there.
A
So
first
question
would
be-
and
this
I
don't
know
if
it'd
be
for
the
chief
or
the
assistant
chief,
but
let's
say,
for
instance,
we
were
able
to
add
in
more
officers
for
for
full-time
equivalent
ftes,
and
you
know
from
where
we're
at
now
around
1150,
going
to
you
know,
1250,
say
100
or
even
13.50,
or
at
250
back
to
the
1400
that
we
had
over
a
decade
ago.
How
much
of
an
impact
would
that
have
on
some
of
this
overtime?
A
That
is
that
is
happening.
You
know,
or
would
a
lot
of
those
officers
simply
be
going
in
to
fill
other
vacancies,
that
we've
had
right,
whether
it's
in
patrol
or
other
specialized
units,
and
would
it
really
not
make
a
major
difference?
I'm
curious
in
in
that.
M
Sure
so,
if
we
added
officers-
and
I
know
ac
joseph
has
a
breakdown
as
to
or
we
we've
discussed,
where
additional
office
would
go
to
priority
to
prioritize
those
officers,
one
of
them
would
be
in
or
some
of
these
offices
would
go
to
the
bureau
of
investigations
to
reduce
or
look
at
some
of
the
like
extraditions,
crimes
against
children.
That's
what
they
do,
investigation
follow-ups
things
of
that
nature.
M
So
again
they
would
go
to
different
priorities
within
the
department
and
that's
something
that
we're
discussing
on
the
assistant
joseph
has
any
further
ideas
as
to
the
operations
as
to
each
bureau,
where
the
needs
are
to
add
those
officers.
A
Yeah-
and
I
guess
the
more
specific
question
is,
would
any
of
what
we're
seeing
say
here
on
this
list?
Would
it
be
impacted
positively,
at
least
where
we
would
say,
wow
we're
not
going
to
have
to
use
overtime
officers
anymore?
For
this,
for
instance,
pay
cars
for
minimum
staffing
is
kind
of
a
low-hanging
fruit
right
like
if
we
had
more
officers,
we
likely
could
would
ultimately
take
that
off
of
this
list,
because
we
wouldn't
possibly
need
that
anymore
right.
A
If,
if,
ultimately,
we
had
enough
minimum
staffing
on
officers,
so
that
was
my
question,
which
of
these
items
do
we
think,
would
actually
be
maybe
pulled
off
for
the
overtime
need
list.
If
we
were
to
get
more
officers
in
or
you
know,
is
that
not
the
case?
Is
there
just
other
needs
that
we
need
to
be
filled
and
are
we
looking
at
that?
Most
of
this
list
would
still
stay
as
a
as
a
need
for
overtime
officers.
J
You
know,
council
member,
I
think
I
mean
you're,
asking
an
important
question
right
because
there's
you
know
more
officers
gives
us
not
just
less
overtime
but
but
better
service,
but
in
terms
of
the
things
that
are
purely
done
on
overtime
that
we
could
do
with
full-time
officers.
You
know
like,
for
instance,
we
could
create
a
team
that
did
nothing
but
sideshow
enforcement
that
worked
on.
You
know
some
of
the
stuff
related
to.
Can
you
know
keeping
the
sideshows
from
coming
to
our
city
at
all?
J
We
could
have
a
full-time
unit
that
did
that,
instead
of
having
walking
beats
purely
on
an
overtime
basis,
we
could
have
full-time
officers
whose
only
assignment
was
to
do
walking
deeds.
Instead
of
having
extraditions
done
by
detectives
on
overtime,
we
could
have
a
warrants
unit
like
we
once
had
that
did
these
extraditions
it
brought
wanted
felons
who
are
arrested
out
of
our
jurisdiction
back
to
san
jose,
to
face
justice.
So
there's
quite
a
few.
The
airport
is
100
officers
working
overtime,
there's
no
other
than
the
supervisors
that
are
out
there.
J
A
You
know
some
of
the
things
I
see
on
here
as
well:
police
academy,
instruction
command
center
staffing
things
that
I
recall
as
well
that
had
you
know
it
was
just
a
regular,
full-time
role
beforehand,
as
you
point
out
a
number
than
the
airport,
the
walking
beats,
which
is
something
that
I
have
put
forward
right
as
an
interest
as
we
do
the
redistricting
that
I
would
like
to
see
that
be
rolled
into
a
more
permanent
position
rather
than
something
that
is.
That
is
over
time.
A
So
I
I
personally
think
as
well
and
I
think,
based
on
what
you
just
said,
that
it
would
greatly
and
positively
impact
the
need
for
overtime
and
pay
cars,
and-
and
we
could
address
a
lot
of
these
with
more
bodies
which
then
would
get
to
what
the
vice
mayor
was
saying,
which
is
hey
we
are.
We
do
seem
to
be
spending
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
overtime,
even
if
and
even
more
right
now
than
what
we
have
traditionally
budgeted
in
the
base
budget.
A
But
we've
been
doing
that
now
annually
for
many
years,
because
these
are
all
the
needs
that
we're
hearing
from
the
community
that
come
through,
and
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear
as
well,
and
maybe
you
can
reiterate
it
assistant
chief,
the
the
demand
for
these
are
coming
from
the
community
correct
when
you're
getting
the
demands
coming
from
whether
it's
calls
for
service
calls
into
the
unit
or
even
through
us
as
council
members.
What
we're
hearing
from
our
community
right!
That's
where
all
the
demand
is
coming
from.
J
100
I
mean
a
great
example
of
that
is
the
prostitution
enforcement
along
the
first
street
monterey
road
corridor.
I
mean
that
was
a
neighborhood
that
was
greatly
impacted
by
prostitution
by
rampant
prostitution
and
cried
out
for
help
which
we
gave
them
and
we
have
not
eliminated
the
problem
completely,
but
it
is
much
reduced
from
where
it
was.
I
would
say,
I
would
call
that
a
very,
very
significant
victory
that
the
community
has
had
that
the
police
department
has
assisted
in
and
that's
funded,
almost
entirely
on
overtime.
J
A
Yeah-
and
I
obviously
know
that
intimately
because
that's
that's
right
in
the
heart
of
my
district
in
an
area-
that's
that's,
you
know
greatly
challenged
and
whether
it's
with
with
gangs,
but
prostitution
has
been
that
really
the
number
one
issue
and
it's
happening
in
and
around
washington,
elementary
school,
and
so
I
know
the
community
there.
A
The
neighborhood
association
has
greatly
appreciated
when
there
is
extra
attention
on
that,
because
it
does
really
stymie
that
issue,
but
unfortunately
does
not
completely
go
away,
and
maybe
you
know
this
and
the
the
need
for
extra
overtime
and
all
this
as
well
will
come
up
as
we
talk
about
some
of
the
reimagining
issues
and
other
ways
that
we
deal
with
some
of
these
things.
Clearly
we're
talking
about
it
with
school
schools
right
as
school
districts
have
made
the
decision
to
maybe
remove
some
sros
and
and
are
still
dealing
with
challenges.
A
And
again,
all
of
that
I
think
goes
into
this.
If
we're
not
going
to
be,
you
know
wanting
to
utilize
overtime
or
utilize
officers
in
certain
circumstances,
we
need
to
have
other
solutions,
otherwise
we're
going
to
still
have
more
problems,
and
in
this
case
I
think
considering
we
are
the
most
thinly
staffed,
not
just
police
department
but
but
city,
any
big
city.
A
We
have
a
need
in
general
to
get
rid
of
some
of
these
overtime
needs
by
just
beefing
up
the
base
staffing
at
a
bare
minimum
and-
and
a
number
of
these
things
are
things
that
aren't
going
to
be
done
by
by
anybody
else
really
than
officers,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
huge
need.
A
Unfortunately,
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
in
overtime
right
now
that
I
too
would
agree
that
you
know
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
roll
that
over
into
more
of
a
base
budget
and
see
if
we
can
get
some
of
those
things
taken
off,
you
can
go
to
slide
24
now
the
next
slide
so
in
in
regards
to
this-
and
I
know
councilmember
jimenez
was
talking
about
it
on
you
know
the
trade-off
in
in,
and
I
think
you
answered
it
well
in
regards
to
to
you
know
the
choices
that
are
being
made,
and
I
know
we're
facing
that
issue
right
now,
specifically
with
the
entertainment
zone,
officers
and
and
not
having
enough,
you
know
to
fill
those
positions
which
is
not
something
we
had
had
a
challenge
previously
and
now,
after
you
know
covert,
though
this
one
year
sort
of
off,
it
has
been
a
real
challenge.
A
A
If
you
have
an
opportunity
for
some
overtime
at
a
different
time
and
day
that
is
more
conducive
to
you
know
you
having
some
time
off
on
a
saturday
night
or
a
friday
night,
and
and-
and
I
would
agree
too,
that,
as
you
mentioned,
but
just
to
make
it
clear
that
I
think
the
secondary
employment
unit
in
those
secondary
employment
roles
or
pay
jobs,
don't
really
compete
with
anything
in
overtime,
because
the
pay
is
so
much
lower
than
the
overtime
pay.
A
So
I
would
agree
that
that's
not
necessarily
a
concern,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
a
benefit
for
our
community
members
is
our
duty
manual
that
is
completely
accessible
online,
and
so
I
just
kind
of
took
a
peek
at
it
as
well.
While
we
were
discussing
the
item
and
and
there's
section
c
1500
that
that
has
all
of
the
secondary
employment
policies
around
20
something
pages
worth
of
of
the
policies
in
relation
to
it.
A
And
you
know
the
the
mandatory
hours
that
can
be
worked
and
when
it
can
be
worked
and-
and
so
all
of
that
is,
is
very
well
restricted
and-
and
I
would
say
it's
much
easier
and
the
pay
is
obviously
much
greater
when
you're
doing
an
overtime
role.
If,
if
we're
not
getting
any
of
these
overtime
rules
filled
up
like
the
entertainment
zone,
it's
because
of
some
other
reason-
and
I
would
I
would
say,
majority
of
the
reason.
A
Why
is
simply
because
the
time
typically
and
then
the
the
the
type
of
the
job
that
that
it
is
so
also
again
a
challenge
that
I
think
some
base
staffing
could
could
help
us
with.
A
Lastly,
the
last
question-
and
I
I
don't
recall
if
I
brought
this
up
last
time,
but
if
steph,
if
you
recall
when
we
will
be
coming
back
with
the
next
update
on
the
mobile
crisis,
ascents
assessment
team-
I
I
know
we
had
asked
for
that.
I
blanking
on
when
we'll
do
it,
we
had
some
more
requests
from
community
just
to
kind
of
see
how
that's
going.
We
just
had
it.
I
believe
out
of
three
four,
maybe
four
months
ago,
or
something
like
that.
A
So
was
that
something
that
we
had
said
we'd
bring
back
the
beginning
of
next
year.
A
Okay,
I'm
sorry
yeah!
Thank
you.
I
just
I
I
didn't
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
didn't
know
if
you
did
so.
I
appreciate
you
having
that
info
readily
available.
A
B
A
A
A
All
right
motion
passes
unanimously
appreciate
that
next
item
is
item
d2,
our
police
reforms,
work
plan,
reimagining
community
safety
process
status
report
and
I
believe
we
have
angel
leading
us
off
yeah.
N
Good
afternoon,
everyone
angel
reels
deputy
city
manager,
here
with
the
city
of
san
jose
and
joined
today
by
poncho
guevara,
a
member
of
the
committee
and
peter
hamilton
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
and
we're
here
today
to
provide
you
an
update
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
committee
advisory
committee.
Progress
just
first
as
a
way
of
background.
N
As
you
recall,
the
city
council
approved
the
the
new
scope
of
the
reimagining
public
safety
committee
advisory
committee
and
the
scope
pretty
much
falls
along
these
four
areas
here
that
you
see
on
this
on
this
powerpoint,
the
first
one
that
deals
with
alternatives
to
policing
really
involves
it's
kind
of
related
to
the
previous
conversation
really
involves
making
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
identification
and
resourcing
of
community-based
programs
and
interventions
and
alternative
city
service
models
that
will
significantly
change,
reduce
and
or
eliminate
the
role
of
law
enforcement
in
addressing
some
of
these
social
challenges.
N
These
may
involve
both
the
creation
of
alternative
emergency
response
systems,
as
well
as
preventive
approaches
and
then
the
the
the
other
two
bullets
actually
the
other
two
and
three
concerned
police
reform.
That
was
the
that
was
the
addition
made
to
the
scope
of
this
of
this
work.
It
mainly
focuses
on
police
reform
and
practices
and
reform
to
police,
accountability
and
transparency.
N
N
As
an
example,
and
instead
of
appointing
individuals
to
the
committee,
you
know
the
council
designated
a
list
of
organizations
that
would
appoint
seats
on
the
committee
consistent
with
the
coalition's
desire
that
the
process
be
community-led.
As
you
recall,
the
re-scoping
was
based
on
a
proposal
made
by
a
community
coalition.
N
The
council
also
provided
specific
direction.
I
know
the
council,
you
know
it
was,
was
you
know
very
interested
in
ensuring
that
there
was
good
neighborhood
representation
on
on
the
committee?
So
the
council
provided
specific
direction
on
a
number
of
topics,
including
making
sure
that
we
have
at
least
six
members
of
the
body
that
that
must
live
within
the
mayor's
gang
french
task
force,
areas,
hot
spot
areas
or
project
hope
neighborhoods,
with
the
option
of
four
of
those
members
overlapping.
N
With
other
appointments
on
the
committee,
there
was
a
direction
to
add
a
seat
to
the
committee,
an
appointment
by
the
billy
de
frank
center
and
then
directed
staff
to
return
to
public
safety,
finance
and
strategic
support
in
september
for
a
status
update.
N
Since
that
time,
the
committee
has
formed
and
begun
meeting
of
the
appointed
members.
A
total
of
four
represent
the
mayor's
gang
prevention,
hot
spot
areas,
the
washington
elma,
10th,
10th
and
william
street
julian
street
and
mayfair
hot
spots
are
currently
represented,
and
staff
has
also
identified
an
additional
three
community
leaders
from
hotspot
areas
who
are
interested
in
participating
and
are
being
reviewed
right
now
by
the
committee.
Those
neighborhoods
include:
winchester,
cadillac,
santee,
valley
palms.
N
The
billy
de
frank
center
has
also
appointed
a
seat,
has
an
appointed
seat
on
the
committee
today
the
committee
has
met
four
times.
Poncho
guevara,
as
you
know,
joins
us
today
and
will
provide
a
brief
summary
of
the
work
of
the
committee
so
far
so
go
ahead
and
take.
O
It
away
thank
you
chair,
but
thank
you
angel
for
for
that
introduction.
So
so
the
work
of
the
committee
thus
far
has
been
able
to
identify
representation
from
you
know
on
that
committee.
So
we
took
most
of
the
month
july
to
actually
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
appoint
individuals,
including
a
strong
mix
of
individuals,
with
limited
experience
of
dealing
with
issues
around
law
enforcement
and
have
an
understanding
of
the
context
of
this.
O
So
it
is,
we've
been
able
to
bring
the
28
voting
members
of
that
together
and
that
that
composition
was
only
finalized
with
the
appointment
of
the
neighborhoods
commission
representatives
last
wednesday
is
when
we
were
able
to
actually
complete
that
process.
O
So
we
have
a
full
committee
and
now
we're
in
the
process
of
organizing
or
organizing
subcommittees
to
actually
work
on
the
kind
of
key
priority
areas
for
that
and
in
the
meanwhile,
for
the
last,
for
the
last
few
meetings,
we've
been
able
to
do
kind
of
an
introduction
to
the
process,
really
laying
down
the
scope
of
what
we're
trying
to
do,
making
sure
that
each
of
the
meetings
are
beginning
with
the
testimony
from
community
members
that
have
have
their
lived
experience
with
policing
and
centering
that
conversation
at
the
beginning
of
each
of
these
sessions
reviewing
other
recent
processes
that
have
actually
happened
in
other
cities.
O
O
We
had
a
session
really
diving
deep
into
historical
information
on
police
in
the
united
states
and
some
of
the
concepts
and
where,
where
san
jose
fits
in,
in
terms
of
that
that
larger
ecosystem,
we
had
presentations
on
alter
community
approaches
to
public
safety
concerns.
Looking
at
different
models
for
how
alternatives
could
be
driven
and
scoped
did
that
in
a
basic
con
concept,
we've
been
doing
some
brainstorming
around
some
data
needs
and
are
already
starting
to
compile.
Some
of
those
and
there'll
be
more
of
that.
O
That
will
emerge
as
subcommittees
continue
to
do
their
work
and
discussion
of
committee
process
going
forward,
including
that
including
this
formation
that
I
mentioned
before
so
now
that
we
have
the
two
neighborhood
commissioners
and
we
have
three
potential
nominees.
We
are
going
to
be
working
on
formulating
our
forming
our
sub,
our
steering
committee
that
will
be
able
to
help
make
some
of
those
directions
and
making
sure
that
we
are
able
to
get
everyone
informed
up
to
speed
and
get
the
committees
working
on
on
that
we've
also
been
in
conversation.
O
A
number
of
folks
from
the
rematching
process
have
been
in
regular
communication
with
the
charter
review
commission
and
some
of
their
work
around
they've
already
been
doing
some
really
effective
work
and
study
session
around
different
models
for
public
safety
oversight,
which
is
a
wonderful
thing,
because
they're
actually
that's
the
structure
that
they
would
like
to
see
in
enshrined
in
that
in
in
the
city
in
the
city
charter
and
making
sure
that
some
public
safety
oversight
models
would
be
there.
O
So
we've
been
while
we've
been
doing
our
work
waiting
for
the
neighborhood
commissioner,
so
we
have
a
full
representation,
not
wanting
to
take
action
or
make
recommendations
before
we
have
a
full
active
voting
roster,
but
we
have
been
getting
ready
for
this
next
next
phase
of
our
work.
So
that's
the
latest
on
that.
I
think
the
next
steps,
I
think
one
more
slide
right.
O
Yes,
so,
like
I
said
a
formation
of
subcommittees,
we
have
also
been
in
conversation
with
the
city
manager's
team,
around
identification
of
consultant
needs,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
different
forms
of
consultant
needs.
One
of
them
is
we've,
as
we've
been
self-organizing
and
doing
the
facilitation
of
this
kind
of
on
on
our
own,
thus
far,
looking
for
perhaps
some
facilitation
ease,
which
seems
to
be
the
focus
before,
but
there's
also
going
to
be
looking
at.
O
How
does
the
report
come
together
for
both
a
study
session
for
the
for
the
city
council
and
to
actually
come
up
and
do
the
analytical
work
and
we've
been
in
conversation
with
different
communities
around
the
country
in
terms
of
how
they
organize
that
and
what
a
community
process
could
look
like
and
what
kind
of
consultant
needs
could
actually
help
provide
some
really
actionable
in
not
only
natural
intelligence
presentation,
but
actually
policy
proposals
that
the
city
council
would
be
able
to
honor
at
the
end
of
this
process.
So
that
is
where
we're
at
right
now.
A
D
Oh,
thank
you.
Well,
I
came
to
this
meeting
because
of
the
public
safety
issue
and
the
issues
that
I'm
looking
at
are
the
public
safety
issues
of
our
climate
crisis,
and
I
know
you're
going
to
cut
me
off.
D
But
this
is
really
critical,
and
the
thing
is
is
that
the
public
safety
issues
is
what
was
brought
up
at
the
charter
review
commission
in
terms
of
the
people's
the
third
leg
of
the
charter
review,
which
was
actually
aborted
because
of
the
issues
of
the
police
that
were
brought
in
by
our
general
city
manager
and,
what's
interesting
about
that,
is
that
this
topic
of
preparing
for
our
climate
crisis
that
was
actually
written
in
the
spotlight
by
a
woman
named
zimmerman.
D
She
did
a
very
good
job
of
of
really
targeting
the
problems
that
are
going
to
be
hitting
san
jose.
And
that's
what
you
know.
Blair
beekman
has
been
focusing
your
attention
on.
You
know
emergency
preparedness,
and
that
is
you
know,
in
line
with
the
way
we
need
to
be
focusing
on.
D
Our
safety
is
in
emergency
preparedness
and
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency
and
and
what
ms
zimmerman
had
reported
in
the
spotlight
is
specifically
the
impacts
on
san
jose
and
what
was
sad
about
what
happened
at
the
charter
review
commission,
because
we
were
bringing
up
the
issues
of
preparing
and
protecting
the
people.
D
You
know
as
we
go
forward
and
how
we're
going
to
do
that
was
aborted
because
of
looking
at
police
and-
and
I
I
say
that
that
is
because
nobody
wants
to
look
at
this
issue
because
it
really
has
to
do
with
stopping
business
as
usual,
a
hard
stop
with
business
business
as
usual,
and
that
that's
where
we
have
to
focus,
because
we
are
on
that
last
second,
before
midnight
we
are
in
the
we
have
already
triggered
tipping
points,
and
so
we
need
to
really
be
focusing
on
our.
D
H
Thank
you
for
your
work
that
you're
doing
with
regard
to
the
reimagining.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
and
acknowledge
that
this
is
an
unprecedented
moment
in
san
jose
history
that
this
has
never
ever
happened.
You
know,
and
while
I'm
I'm
I'm
saddened
that
it
took
the
the
execution
and
lynching
of
george
floyd.
There
is
a
history
here
in
the
city.
You
know
name,
namely
danny
chavino,
and
I
I
don't
want
the
chicano
experience
missed
on
this.
I
really
don't
you
know.
H
Number
two
is
that
I
want
to
thank
chief
mata
because
chief
mata,
when
he
gave
his
pitch
for
this
job,
he
had
the
humility
at
that
point
to
say
that
I
cannot
do
this
alone.
I
need
the
community,
I
need
you,
we
can.
H
However,
what
I
don't
want
to
happen-
and
I
hope
that
this
question
can
be
answered
here
today.
Right
now-
is
what
role
does
the
police
officers
union
gonna
have
within
the
context
of
these
decisions
and
these
recommendations
that
we
place
to
council?
What's
going
to
happen?
Are
we
going
to
place
them
council's
going
to
approve
them?
And
then,
oh,
oh,
the
police
officers
union
said:
oh
no,
we
can't
do
it.
You
know
it's
against
the
law.
So
that's
it!
H
That's
what
I'm
worried
about,
because
that
would
be
that
right
there
to
the
public
would
mean
that
they
wasted
their
time
all
those
hours
and
I
go
to
both
meetings.
I
go
to
every
single
charter
committee
meeting
and
every
single
reimagined
meeting
and
have
been
doing
it
since
their
beginnings.
So
I
I
think
I
have
a
unique
perspective
on
the
issue.
I
Look,
I
don't
want
to
reimagine
anything.
I
don't
want
to
defund
anything.
I
just
want
san
jose
pd
to
do
their
job
versus
all
the
fluff
that
you
see
all
the
redefinitions
of
everything,
all
the
parades,
the
toy
giveaways,
these
phony
public
coffee
with
a
copy.
You
guys
do
all
this
fluff,
but
you
never
ever
ever
have
increased
the
patrols
in
the
southern
division
between
midnight
and
six
you're
too
good,
you're
too
smug.
I
You
let
the
crime
happen
because
well
I
guess
the
insurance
company
will
cover
for
it
and
we'll
have
the
community
service
guy
go
out
there
and
take
a
police
report.
It's
you
guys
are
the
most
smug
department.
I've
ever
dealt
with
in
my
entire
life,
snooty
you're,
a
bunch
of
millionaires
with
day
jobs.
I
mean
once
again
how
all
this
money
fell
out
of
the
sky
for
traffic
enforcement
makes
me
want
to
puke.
I
mean
all
all
this
money
for
brand
new
bmw
motorcycles,
call
it
what
it
is.
I
Some
may
think
it
says,
support
poor
choice
of
words
or
not.
It's
pork
spending.
Okay,
that's
what
you
guys!
Do
pork
spending
half
a
billion
dollars?
We
pay
for
police
service
every
year.
I
want
everyone
to
ask
themselves
if
they
think
they're
getting
a
good
deal
on
that.
I
can
tell
you
other
parts
of
the
country.
They
don't
make
the
salaries
that
you
people
make
they
make
garbage
compared
to
what
you
make.
That's
why,
when
you
go
up
to
tahoe
or
you're
in
hawaii,
who
do
you
bump
into
sjpd?
I
Really,
you
know
what's
pd
stand
for
pot,
dealer
or
or
or
pimps
and
and
drug
dealers,
because
you
guys
regulate
the
massage
parlors
and
the
pot
deal
all.
E
Hi,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
incredibly
for
this
work.
You
know
six
months
ago
we
weren't
quite
thinking.
In
these
terms,
I
think
we
had
quite
a
snobbish
take
on
how
to
talk
about
issues
of
reimagine
and
equity
and
something
has
changed
a
bit
they're
doing
some
good,
interesting
work
in
oakland.
At
the
same
time,
on
this
issue,
I
think
we've
realized
many
bay
area.
Cities
have
have
had
a
tremendous
increase
in
their
police
infrastructure
spending
over
the
building
savings.
E
E
It
has
opened
the
door
to
consider
that
it
is
good
practices
of
reimagining
equity
that
can
better
address
these
things
and
with
that
cities
like
oakland
and
san
jose
has
very
very
wisely
realized.
It's
time
to
start
talking
to
our
reimagined
community,
who
have
been
practicing
these
things
for
years,
if
not
decades
the
same
as
equity
ideas,
so
we're
trying
to
put
those
things
into
place.
This
doesn't
have
to
be
a
snobbish
thing.
I
think
we
can
all
make
good
connections
on
what
can
be
a
more
a
different
feature.
E
We
can
be
building
of
community
based
practices.
Good
luck!
How
we
do
this!
You
know
my
feelings
about
technology
issues
and
how,
like
say,
vision
zero
with
its
commitment
to
community
safety
if
it
has
open
public
policies
with
the
technology
of
vision,
zero
that
is
building
a
democratic
future.
That
is
sustainability
above
almost
everything
else.
So,
good
luck!
How
we
work
on
these
things?
E
Good
luck
with
your
work
with
the
city
charter,
commission,
and
how
there
can
be
a
way
we
can
line
up
all
these
programs
very
well
together,
because
these
are
incredibly
important
subjects
for
our
future.
This
is
our
hopeful
future.
Good
luck!
How
we
do
this!
Thank
you.
K
O
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
remember
jones.
I
I
will
say
that
we
are
in
the
midst
of
figuring
it
out.
O
So
so
it's
actually
as
a
community
driven
process
where
we
have
mostly
a
group
of
volunteers
that
are
helping
to
to
describe
and
develop.
You
know,
presentation,
proposals
and
developing
kind
of
research
and
self-organize,
and
it's
a
fairly
large
group.
O
You
know
there
are
not
only
you
know,
28
you
know
or
so
voting
members,
but
then
there
are
also
some
alternates
from
different
organizations,
and
you
also
have,
I
think,
nine
advisory,
non-voting
members,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
right
now,
so
we're
just
we're
at
the
place
of
developing
a
sense
of
identity
and
how
we're
able
to
kind
of
work.
You
know
work
together
around
this
there's
a
ton.
O
Expertise
and
energy
and
people
are
just
chomping
at
the
bit
to
actually
get
into
developing,
really
strong
proposals.
So
I
think
I
think
what
we'll
say
is
that
we
understand
and
respect
the
fact
that
the
city
council
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
some
additional
neighborhood
representation
and
so
being
able
to
wait
for
the
some
fantastic.
You
know,
members
of
the
neighborhoods
commission
that
were
just
appointed
last
week
and
I
think
that's
been
the
only
kind
of
point
of
frustrations
like
we
don't
want
to
move
ahead
without
honoring.
O
What
the
what
the
council
directed
us
in
terms
of
having
some
other
neighborhood
voices
in
the
part
of
the
process,
but
I
think
we're
there's
a
sense
of
a
real
pen
up
energy
about
how
do
we
get
to
these
particular
items?
I
know
people
have
been
working
and
developing
and
talking
about
this
for
over
a
year
and
so
being
able
to
get
us
moving
forward.
I
think,
if
the
only
other
thing
that
I
I
will
say
just
try
to
be
responsive
to
your
question,
I
think
it's
going
to
be.
O
We
think
that's
totally
appropriate
and
fine,
and
I
think
there
was
a
little
bit
of
pushback
on
that,
but
I
think
I
think
the
child
review
commission
took
an
appropriate
response
to
to
try
deciding
to
proceed
with
some
other
work
with
our
advice
and
feedback,
and
I
think
I
think,
on
those
levels,
I
think
we're
doing
okay.
So
that
was
a
long
way
of
saying
I
think
we're
okay.
K
Okay
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
the
charter
review,
actually
I'll,
be
honest
with
you
poncho
when
I
heard
about
the
charter
review
commission
taking
on
part
of
that
work,
that
was
a
real
head
scratcher
for
me,
I'll,
be
honest
with
you
with
all
the
time,
effort
and
attention
that
we
have
spent
putting
together
your
your
group
in
what
you've
been
tasked
with,
which
is
you
know,
a
pretty
heavy,
significant
lift
and
with
the
expectation
of
whatever
you
came
out
with
in
your
your
group
in
terms
of
recommendations
and
guidance,
is
what
I
was
looking
for.
K
The
charter
review
commission
already
has
a
heavy
lift
in
terms
of
their
primary
focus
and
I'll
be
honest
with
you
again.
I'm
concerned
that
taking
on
the
additional
work,
that's
worked
that
I'm
expecting
to
come
from
you
and
your
group
is
problematic
for
me.
So
I
just
again,
I
just
want
to
get
that
out
there.
K
So
again,
I
just
want
to
get
that
out
there.
Okay,
and
I
also
want
to
ask
angel
the
same
original
question
that
I
asked
poncho
in
terms
of
your
assessment
of
how
the
the
process
has
been
going.
N
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor
yeah,
I
think,
as
poncho
kind
of
outlined.
You
know.
We
know
that
pulling
together.
This
type
of
of
a
structure
is
very
labor
intensive,
and
so
I
I
think
it
I
think
you
know
we're
kind
of
at
the
point
that
I
expected
us
to
be
at
you
know
just
given
you
know
that
we
hit
the
reset
button.
Just
you
know
on
june
22nd,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
you
know.
N
I
think
we're
in
a
situation
where
I
think
the
community-led
committee
is
ready
to
take
some
action.
The
structure
I
think
has
been
finalized
now,
for
the
most
part
we
are,
we
are
definitely
providing
any
strategic
support
from
a
city
perspective,
as
poncho
mentioned.
N
I
think
the
next
order
of
business
is
really
to
solidify
any
additional
consultant
support
that
that
the
that
the
committee
would
need
and
and
of
course,
as
I
said
back
in
june-
you
know-
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
as
the
group
works,
towards
formulating
some
recommendations
along
those
four
scope
areas
is
to
make
sure
that
the
recommendations
really
are
our
recommendations
that
can
be
implemented
that
are
vetted
in
a
way
that
they're
not
so
difficult
to
implement
that
that
it.
N
You
know
that
that
they
can
kind
of,
reinforce
or
produce.
You
know
frustration
amongst
the
group
right,
so
I
think
we
got
to
kind
of
ground
these
recommendations
in
you
know
being
bold
and
practical
and
at
the
same
time
make
sure
that
they're
viable.
We
have
learned
from
other
cities
that
are
embarking
on
this,
that
you
could
come
up
with
some
pretty.
You
know
some
pretty
bold
recommendations,
but
if,
if
they're,
but
if
you
can't
implement
them,
then
you're
kind
of
back
to
ground
zero
right.
N
So
I
think
that's
the
challenge
that
we're
gonna
have
as
and
we
knew
that
going
into
this,
but
but
I
think
right
now
the
the
group
is
is
structured
for
success.
K
Great
thank
you
angel
and
both
angel
and
pancho.
Thank
you
for
your
dedication
and
commitment
to
this
effort
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
actually
additional
dialogue.
I
don't
know
cheer.
K
If
I
can,
as
part
of
the
motion
to
accept
the
the
report,
is
I
like
to
see
them
come
back
in
two
months
to
give
us
another
another
update.
B
So,
council,
member
jones,
it
is
on
the
november
agenda
for
a
more
robust
report
already
on
the
work
plan.
K
All
right,
well,
hey!
If
I
checked
my
work
plan
I
wouldn't
have.
I
would
have
known
that
so
thank
you.
Jennifer.
L
Thank
you.
I
know
that
you're
still
in
the
process
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
my
video
back
on,
but
I
did
freeze
earlier.
I
I
feel
like
it's
rude
when
I
don't
have
my
video
on
so
I
apologize.
If
I
do
freeze
I'm
going
to
turn
it
off.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support.
L
I'm
really
happy
to
see
you
involved
in
this
poncho
and
that
there's
this
is
really
truly
community
driven,
which
is,
I
think,
the
point
of
of
having
this
conversation
right.
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
were
here
from
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
correct,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
typically
when
we
think
about
reimagining
the
community
safety
and
and
police
reforms.
L
We
think
about
maybe
violent
altercations
between
police
and
our
residents,
but
I-
and
I
also
want
to
encourage
you
to
include
interface
with
the
gender-based.
L
Violent
crime
so
that
it
runs
the
spectrum,
it
is
not
exclusive
because
I'll
from
base
from
what
the
ipa
report
last
year
said
that
there
was
a
predominantly,
and
I
can't
remember
what
the
percentage
was.
But
there
was
a
a
pretty
high
percentage
and
they
noted
it
as
such,
between
people
of
color
and
mainly
men
of
color
and
the
police
department.
L
And
so
when
we
think
about
these
police
reform
work
plans,
I
don't
want
it
to
be
just
very
male
dominated
in
terms
of
the
conversations
simply
because
that's
maybe
who
is
interacting
with
our
police
department,
but
that
it's
comprehensive
and
it
includes
kind
of
runs.
The
gamut
and
includes
all
genders
that
we
are
recognized,
are
part
of
our
our
community
and
live
with
us.
So
anyways.
L
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
just
put
that
in
your
ear,
aside
from
encouraging
you
to
recruit
from
my
welch
area-
and
this
is
a
perpetual
crime
gang
spot
and
there's
also
a
hard-working
neighborhood
association.
L
That
has
a
project
hope,
thanks
to
our
vice
mayor,
who
who
reignited
these
neighborhood
rehabilitation
programs.
L
And
so
I'm
really
happy
that
we
have
that
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
community
members
that
have
been
working
with
project
project
hope
to
to
to
to
connect
with
our
our
government-
and
hopefully
maybe
in
this
committee-
I
don't
know,
but
ultimately
that's
I
think
who
you're
looking
for
and
and
hopefully
you
don't
forget
our
welch
area-
it's
kind
of
forgotten,
because
it's
on
the
exterior
of
the
east
side
and
it's
cut
off
from
all
agencies.
L
L
O
Thank
you
remember,
I'll,
just
just
to
quickly
respond,
we're
excited
to
be
able
to
talk
with
other
folks
in
the
community.
O
We
want
to
be
able
to
do
some
neighborhood-based
outreach
and
we're
looking
to
the
neighborhoods
commission
in
part,
and
those
representatives
actually
help
us
with
that,
as
in
addition
to
it's
not
just
who's
on
the
committee,
it's
like
how
we're
informing
the
process
and
having
lots
of
voices
and
and
being
able
to
have
some
dialogues
in
different
communities,
so
it'd
be
really
exciting
to
work
with
you
and
your
your
team
and
other
other
members
of
this
committee
in
the
council
to
how
do
we
have
some
community-based
conversations
and
reaching
out
to
folks-
and
we
want
to
do
that,
but
but
to
the
point
of
gender-based,
you
know
gender-based
violent
crime
and
looking
at
that,
a
majority
of
of
the
representation
of
the
voting
representation
on
this
are
our
women
and
we
are
planning
on
actually
having
a
one
of
our
sessions
is
going
to
be
a
learning
session
looking
at
gender-based
violence,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
appointee
organizations
was
next-door
solutions.
O
Domestic
violence
and
they've
appointed
darcy
green
as
the
representative
and
she's
working
she
and
others
are
working
on
creating
a
session.
That's
going
to
be
diving
deep
into
that
topic,
including
alternative
responses
that
wouldn't
include
necessarily
law
enforcement
having
to
respond
to
everything.
What
are
things
that
make
communities
safe
in
the
first
place
and
and
what
are
other
other
things
that
we
have
to
do
when
it
does
happen.
So
we'd
love
to
make
sure
we'll
communicate
with
folks
about
the
timing
of
that
as
well.
So
I'll
follow
up
with
your
team.
L
Right
so
we'll
we'll
follow
up
off
offline,
but
I
hope
that
there's
other
organizations
that,
like
nextdoor
community
solutions
or
ywca
as
well,
that
are
involved
in
these
conversations
they
all
cater
to
a
kind
of
a
slightly
different
clientele.
L
One
is
a
crisis:
rape,
a
rape
crisis
center,
others
are
exclusive
to
intimate
partner
violence,
and
so
these
are
nuanced
differences,
but
but-
and-
and
some
of
these
may
have
some
crossovers,
but
I
I'd
love
for
it
to
all
be
represented.
So
thank
you.
A
bunch
of
thank
you
for
the
consideration.
O
Yeah
and
thank
you
for
that
direction,
we
will
definitely
be
working
whether
we
we
at
sacred
heart
work
with
all
the
members
of
the
domestic
violence
advocacy
consortium
in
our
work
around
around
homelessness
prevention
and
we'll
definitely
make
sure
that
they're
brought
into
that
conversation
to
help
with
those
presentations.
A
You
just
a
couple
questions
for
me
and
appreciate
the
the
update
as
well
had
similar
questions
to
our
vice
mayor.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
where
progress
is
at
right.
Now
you
had
mentioned
that
you
were
waiting
on
a
couple.
The
neighborhoods
commissioners
looking
at
the
report
is
that
the
same
as
the
two
major
infringement
hotspot
areas
or
no
are
those
still
outstanding.
O
We're
still
waiting
to
get
those
get
those
nominees.
I
think
there
were
three
that
were
vetted.
You
know
by
by
the
city,
manager's
office
are
gonna,
be
able
to
send
them
over
to
us,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
get
our
steering
committee
started
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
determine
how
we're
gonna
be
able
to
take
action
on
that
in
the
next.
In
the
next
few
weeks,.
A
N
I
I
council
remember:
we
I
believe
we
have
the
the
right
nominations
in
terms
of
filling
the
spots
and
as
possible
mentioned
previously.
You
know,
in
addition
to
these
individuals
that
will
be
serving
directly
on
the
committee.
There's
also
going
to
be
extended
outreach
into
many
other
neighborhoods,
including
genie
and
many
others.
The
three
that
are
that
are
just
right
on
the
verge
of
being
onboarded
represent
winchester,
cadillac
valley
palms
and
the
santee
community.
So
I
think
we're
gonna
be
solid
there.
N
I
think
we
have
really
good
neighborhood
representation
and
we've
already
connected
leaders
from
the
community
coalition
to
to
project
hope
and
getting
task
force
hot
spots.
So
I
think
we're
good.
A
Okay,
that
is
positive
news.
The
only
other
concern
that
I
had
a
new
one,
but
vice
mayor
had
brought
up
the
other,
which
was
in
regards
to
the
charter
review
commission,
which
I
would
agree
with
the
vice
mayor's
sentiment
on
that
you
know.
I
think
we
were
looking
for
this
task
force
right
to
really
put
forward
some
very
thoughtful
recommendations.
The
charter
review
commission
has
a
a
broad
sort
of
task
of
what
they're
looking
at.
A
Ultimately,
there
may
be
some
charter
changes,
but
I
think
we
really
want
those
recommendations
to
come
out
of
the
the
work
that
this
body
is
doing.
So
you
know,
I
think
we
wanted
to
focus.
That's
all
echo
his
comments
there,
but
my
other
concern
was
actually
in
regards
to
how
we're
making
any
access
or
availability
to
to
some
of
these
meetings
or
conversations
for
others.
As
you
were
saying
bunch
of
the
you
know,
neighbors
that
want
to
participate
or
others
and
angel.
A
You
were
just
talking
about
right
now
about
putting
the
broad
or
or
access
to
others
through
communities.
So
is.
Is
this
something
that
we
will
be
promoting?
Are
the
meetings
gonna
be
recorded?
I
know,
obviously
just
because
of
the
the
new
setup,
I'm
curious
on
that
and
ensuring
that
you
know
that
we
could
have
some
participation
yeah
so.
O
So,
for
almost
I
just
want
to
respond
that
we
actually
have
been.
The
meetings
have
been
open
to
the
public.
We've
been
doing
them,
you
know,
via
zoom,
we've
had
interpretation,
both
you
know
and
and
others
for
them
and
making
them
available.
We've
been
letting
people
know
about
them,
they
have
been
recorded.
O
They
are
on
the
city's
website,
the
at
least
the
first
three
meetings
that
that
have
taken
place
and
so
like,
so
that
process
is
happening,
and
certainly
if
you
want
to
continue
to
promote
that,
we
are
doing
something
a
little
bit
different,
though
we're
not
utilizing
the
same
kind
of
structure
that
you
have
in
terms
of
the
webinar
version,
we're
using
a
normal
version,
so
anyone
in
the
community
is
able
to
kind
of
come
in
and
participate
and
so
we're
doing
it
a
little
bit
less
controlled
and
contrived
version
than
what
you
typically
are
doing,
which
is
which
is
fun
but
but
one
of
the
things
that
just
but
to
respond
to
your
other.
O
The
other
point
about
the
charter
review.
Commission.
We
actually
believe
that
that
their
work,
because
their
work
is
working
on
a
timeline.
That's
going
to
be
completed
sooner
than
ours
we're.
We
are
slated
to
complete
our
work
in
the
spring.
There
is
some
concern
about
whether
or
not
if
things
would
be
part
of
a
package
of
things
that
the
city
council
would
be
wanting
to
put
before
the
voters
in
june,
that
not
being
able
to
hit
that
window,
but
what
we
are
definitely
involved.
We're
definitely
involved.
O
We're
definitely
engaged
in
that
we've
been
promoting
that
with
our
committee
members
to
participate
and
and
watch
and
study
the
the
working
sessions,
one
that
happened
on
august
23rd,
another
one
happening
on
the
27th
of
this
month
and
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
happening.
I
believe
on.
O
I
think
it
just
got
settled
yesterday
that
will
be
on
november
6th,
where
there
will
be
considering
some
of
the
these
conversations
around
around
that
we
are
looking
at
our
role
as
not
as
being
involved,
engaged
in
shaping
and
forming
that,
and
if
we
have
concerns
about
it,
that
will
that
will
come
out.
We
had
we
had
dozens
and
we
had
almost
a
couple
hours
of
testimony
at
the
charter
review
commission
saying
we
from
community
members,
including
many
of
us
saying
no
continue
at
work,
we're
going
to
work
with
you.
O
That's
your
role
is
looking
at
the
structure
of
the
city
they're,
not
looking
at
policies
that
you
know
they're
not
looking
at
policies
they're,
not
looking
at
other
things,
but
it's
a
structural
issue
and
we
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
constructive.
But
but
we
are
monitoring
it
very
closely
and
if
we
have
issues
with
the
direction
that
they're
doing,
if
they
feel
it's
not
responsible
for
the
community,
you'll
know.
A
Okay,
good
good
to
know,
and
I'll
just
ask
maybe
on
on
the
city's
end,
because
I
know
in
looking
for
trying
to
find
the
time
the
agenda
through
the
city's
website
as
it
is
posted
there.
It
is
a
little
buried,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
find.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
try
to
remedy
that.
We
have
pointed
some
people
to
to
you
know
that
are
interested
and
and
then
even
my
own
staff.
When
we
tried
to
locate
it,
it
was
a
little
challenging.
A
O
Yes,
council
member-
this
is
peter
hamilton
assistant
to
the
city
manager.
I
can,
I
think,
help
address
that
issue
so,
and
we've
heard
this
feedback
from
other
folks
as
well
that
it's
current
the
agendas
are
currently
being
posted
under
the
miscellaneous
meetings.
Category
in
the
agenda.
A
Website
which
I
can't
as
you
point
out,
can
be
challenging
to
find,
so
we
are
working.
O
With
the
clerk's
office,
to
like
many
of
our
other
commissions
have
this:
have
these
agendas
posted
under
their
own
kind
of
separate
page
that
would
be
listed
on
on
the
website?
So.
A
That
they
are
easier
to
locate.
I
appreciate
that
yeah
that
that
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
Okay.
That's
all
my
comments,
appreciate
the
the
update
look
forward
to
hearing
back
in
november
councilman
dennis
oh
no
same
okay,
hold
hand
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
if
we
can
get
a
roll
call,
though,
please.
A
A
Yes,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
Motion
passes
unanimously
now
we'll
move
on
to
item
d3.
Our
police
department
duty
manual
updates
status
report.
P
Hi
there
guys
it's,
my
name
is
jaime
jimenez,
I'm
a
lieutenant
with
the
san
jose
pd's
sciu,
I'd
like
to
say
hi
to
the
city
manager,
congratulations
and
all
the
council
members
present.
My
chief
officer
is
president
and
also
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
ywca
lindsey
mansfield's
here
with
us
she's
part
of
the
ywca
leadership
and
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
we
also
have
lieutenant
anderson
from
svu
and
lieutenant
rob
lang
from
family
violence
unit
as
well.
P
So
they
can
help
us
answer
any
questions
we
may
have
and
without
further
ado,
anjali
wanted
our
crime
and
intelligence.
Analyst
will
go
over
the
presentation.
Q
Q
Sau
svu
and
fdu
coordinated
on
these
duty
manual
amendments.
The
revisions
and
additions
were
implemented
through
various
means
to
begin
implementation.
The
department's
research
and
development
unit
sent
a
department-wide
email
with
the
listed
duty
manual
updates
department.
Members
are
obligated
to
understand
the
content
of
the
policy.
Changes
and
supervisors
have
the
responsibility
to
ensure
any
new
policy
is
understood
and
being
implemented.
Q
Q
Q
Feu
members
have
worked
with
the
district
attorney's
office
and
the
domestic
violence
protocol
update
committee
to
update
the
domestic
violence
resource
card.
The
card
was
updated
and
is
expected
to
be
published
in
english,
spanish,
vietnamese
and
mandarin.
Soon,
seau
members
have
worked
with
the
district
attorney's
office,
the
ywca
and
community
partners
to
revise
the
sexual
assault
resource
card.
The
draft
card
has
also
been
shared
with
members
of
the
city
of
san
jose
auditor's
office
and
the
final
product
will
be
provided
to
the
district
attorney's
office
for
final
approval
and
implementation.
Q
An
audit
of
the
intersectionality
form
in
2020
revealed
the
opportunity
for
system
improvements
which
could
increase
the
human
trafficking
unit's
probability
of
identifying
and
arresting
human
traffickers
and
automating
analytical
data
in
early
2021
council
members
asked
if
the
department
could
expand
the
use
of
the
intersectionality
tool.
As
a
result,
the
department
is
creating
new
policy
to
be
able
to
use
the
intersectionality
tool
in
cases
involving
dv
sexual
assault
and
human
trafficking.
Q
The
policy
change
is
to
have
officers,
ask
questions
related
to
the
intersectionality
of
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault
and
human
trafficking.
In
all
cases
of
intimate
partner,
violence
reported
to
the
department
we
anticipate
increase
of
the
reporting
of
cases
which
would
have
otherwise
not
have
been
reported.
Q
The
implementation
of
the
duty
manual
revisions
and
additions
are
a
step
forward
in
the
department's
provision
of
a
trauma,
informed
survivor,
centered
approach.
The
department
will
continue
to
work
with
our
advocacy
and
community
partners
and
ensuring
the
highest
level
of
support
to
our
survivors
of
domestic
violence,
child
abuse,
sexual
assault,
human
trafficking
and
other
vulnerable
populations.
A
Thank
you
anjali.
I
appreciate
the
presentation
we'll
go
over
to
members
of
the
public
first
and
just
as
a
reminder
we're
speaking
on
item
d3,
the
police
department,
duty
manual
updates
status
report
and
first
up
will
be
tessa
woodmancy.
D
Okay,
great,
thank
you
so
much
well.
It
was
interesting
to
hear
throughout
this
afternoon
about
all
the
sexual
assaults
and
the
human
trafficking,
and
things
like
that,
and
these
are
really
critical
issues
about
the
way
we're
designing
our
community
to
prevent
these
things
is
very
important
and
our
general
plan
the
way
you're
you're
working
it
with
putting
a
hotel
into
our
neighborhood
and
that
is
potentially
bringing
these
issues
into
our
community.
D
Where
you
know
actually
I
sit
in
my
kitchen
and
who
passes
by
my
window
is
many
students
from
belgium
high
school,
because
we
live
right
down
the
street
from
it
and
they're
going
to
the
cal
train
and
I've
talked
to
the
bellamon,
the
priest
there
and
had
a
good
conversation
when
they
were
planning
the
larger
hotel
in
our
neighborhood,
and
he
said
no.
He
wants.
A
D
Okay,
good
bro.
Well,
I
understand
we're
talking
about
the
problems
in
our
community
in
terms
a
lot
of
it
is,
you
know,
sexual
assault
and,
like
I
said
you
know,
human
trafficking,
and
these
are
the
concerns
of
how
we're
building
our
community,
and
so
we
prevent
that.
We
don't
have
the
overtime
of
the
police
and
things
like
that.
We
need
to
create
brazilian
communities
and
that's
where
you
don't
put
hotels
in
neighborhoods
that
promote
that
kind
of
anonymity.
D
That
brings
that
it's
the
same
thing
like
paul
soto,
says
when
you
brought
you
know,
you
know
x-rated
movie
theaters,
to
make
money
and
the
sexual
assault
that
he
had
to
experience.
You
know
as
as
a
young
child,
and
so
it's
really
how
we're
designing
our
communities
is
very
critical
to
keep
those
things
out
of
our
neighborhoods,
and
you
know
ideally
completely
out
of
our
neighborhoods.
D
You
know
we
shouldn't
have
any
of
that
hotel
or
anything,
but
especially
not
putting
that
into
our
communities
and
that's
what
you
have
done
and
so
that
you
know
we're
fighting
that.
But
you
know
basically,
you
know.
That's
where
you
know
our
general
plan
is
so
critical
and
you
have
all
the
controls
of
that.
You
can't
even
protest
it
if
we
protest
it.
Basically,
you
don't
accept
it.
H
H
Why?
Because
I
was
in
a
towel
and
a
man
reached
for
my
genitals,
I'm
sorry.
I
got
a
problem
with
that
number
one.
I
don't
want
to
have
sex
number
two,
I'm
not
gay,
and
this
man
came
at
me
and
I
did
what
I
had
to
do,
which
every
single
woman
in
this
world
would
be
advocated
to
do,
and
that
is
scream
because
you
don't
have
a
weapon,
you
don't
have
anything.
I
was
snaking
and
officer
fiore.
He
showed
up
and
he
said
no.
H
You
misunderstood,
and
I
said,
sir,
on
what
premise
are
you
making
that
judgment
because
you
were
not
there?
So
how
are
you
going
to
make
a
judgment
that
I
misunderstood?
If
you
weren't
there,
he
really
actually
tried
to
convince
me
that
I
was
mistaken
ben.
I
called
ywca
help.
Please
help
help.
I
got
this
that
I
dealt
with
nothing.
Nothing
absolutely
plea.
A
H
I
cursed
well,
if
I
did,
I
apologize.
Thank
you
for
not
cutting
me
off.
I
I
didn't
mean
to
do
that
as
a
result
of
that
the
police
department
called
up
my
probation
officer
and
told
him
that,
because
of
my
reaction
to
what
happened
to
me
and
they
had
me
locked
up,
I
did
45
days
man
in
jail
because
of
that,
because
the
police
officer
called
and
told
my
professional
that
I
was.
A
Thank
you.
Paul
next
up
will
be
caller
with
the
last
four
digits
of
5140.
A
and
as
a
reminder,
please
do
watch
the
language
I
did
allow
paul
to
continue
on,
because
I
know
he
was
not
directing
that
to
anybody
personally.
I
You
don't
have
to
lecture
me
about
language
and
decorum,
who
are
you
people
to
lecture
anybody
about
that?
You
guys
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself
for
lecturing
people.
Don't
you
have
enough
power
already?
You
want
to
control
the
speech
now
anyway.
Look
at
san
jose
pd
doesn't
care
if
your
car
gets
stolen.
Are
they
gonna
really
care?
I
If,
if,
if
you're
assaulted
in
any
kind
of
way
physical
sexual,
I
mean
you
guys
are
the
ones
who
do
the
sexual
assault,
I
mean
I,
you
know
I
wouldn't
sign
a
ticket
I
got
arrested
and
that
police
officer
grabbed
my
testicles
now.
I
hope
that
this
is
okay
for
the
city
council,
because
we
have
to
pretend
like
it's
the
1600s
in
massachusetts
around
here,
because
somebody
might
use
bad
language
or
somebody
even
might
want
to
drink
a
beer
at
seven
in
the
morning.
I
I
A
Things
next
up
will
be
blair,
beakman
and
blair.
Please
do
step.
E
Thank
you,
council
person,
perales
tough
couple
weeks.
It's
this
kind
of
thing
happens
in
september
and
august,
a
point
to
really
note
that
I
really
really
do
try
to
stick
to
the
topic,
and
I
try
to
make
really
important
points
and
concepts
to
what
we're
talking
about
as
abstract.
As
I
can
be.
I
really
try
to
keep
it
to
focus
to
the
agenda
item
so
for
this
item.
E
I
wanted
to
once
again
mention
the
the
concepts
of
peer
review
and
the
importance
of
it
and
what
the
practices
that
we
do
with
with
domestic
violence
issues
can
have
a
really
good
effect
on
the
rest
of
the
police
department
and
how
we
build
the
future
of
the
police
department
and
the
future
of
our
community.
E
I
hope
I
can
have
this
time
to
really
apologize
to
paul
soto.
I
mentioned
his
name
at
the
beginning
of
the
beginning
of
this
item.
At
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
I
mentioned
his
name,
only
the
story
he
described
is
exactly
what
I
understood
his
story
as
and
for
myself.
I
I
tried
to
describe
that
that
he
got
a
bad
deal
and
that
it's
it's
with
the
peer
review
program
that
he
can
get
a
better
deal.
E
I
didn't
want
to
hurt
his
feelings
at
all
and
I
and
I'm
sorry
to
bring
his
his
story
to
the
public
process,
and
that
would
hurt
him.
I
didn't
consider
that
and
I'm
sorry
about
that-
and
I
hope
we
can
apologize
to
each
other
and
and
work
toward
our
good
process.
Thank
you.
A
L
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
presentation
very,
very
thorough,
thank
you,
anjali,
and,
and
and
thank
you
to
our
residents
for
continuously,
calling
and
and
informing
us
of
and
sharing
their
experiences.
L
L
I
just
want
to
say
that
to
those
folks,
like
mr
soto-
and
I
don't
know,
mr
sencini,
that
I'm
sorry
to
hear
that
these
incidents
have
happened
and
that
there's
always
an
opportunity
for
you
to
bring
this
up
in
terms.
If
you,
if
you
or
anybody
else,
has
a
complaint,
we
have
an
independent
police
auditor,
and
that
is
the
process
for
those
kinds
of
complaints.
L
We
don't
try
to
cover
them
up.
We
don't
try
to
cover
anything
anything
up,
but
we
are
being
as
transparent
as
possible
and
then
giving
you
this
information
that
continues
on
with
that
transparency.
And
so
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
include
those
complaints,
if
you
so
wish.
L
L
They
cover
everything
from
physical
child
abuse,
to
intimate
partner,
violence
and-
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
timing
for
all
of
this,
because
one
of
the
things
that
the
superintendents,
especially
those
in
the
east
side
have
expressed
to
me-
is
concern
about
the
wave
of
child
abuse
reports
that
are
coming
our
way
now
that
our
children
are
in
person
learning
and
that
they
will
have
access
to
a
safe
and
a
trusting
teacher
or
assistant,
or
you
know,
cafeteria
worker,
whoever
it
is
that
they
may
trust
at
school,
and
so
I'm
glad
that
we
are
dotting
our
eyes
and
crossing
our
tees.
L
In
terms
of
this
duty
manual-
and
I
heard
you
anjali
say
that
there
was
a
different
ways
for
some
of
these
updates
to
be
relayed
to
to
patrol
you
said
in
briefings,
or
in
you
know,
supervisors
are
are
responsible
for
relaying
some
of
this.
These
updates,
and
for
for
those
updates
to
be
understood,
does
that
happen?
L
Can
you
break
that
down
a
little
bit
more
because
there
is
some
there's
a
sometimes
a
discrepancy,
just
in
general,
in
terms
of
what
we
think
the
the
the
rule
is
and
then
what
the
practice
is
and,
and
sometimes
those
are
two
things
and
I'm
just
I'm
smiling
because
I
think
about
it
in
my
own
life,
not
exclusive
to
the
police
department,
but
but
we
all
have
these
rules
in
our
in
our
lives
and
in
different
segments
of
our
lives
and
and
sometimes
what
we
think
is
a
rule,
isn't
really
the
rule
and
that's
not
our
practice.
L
And
so
how
can
we
ensure
that
this
is
actually
the
the
practice
from
there
on
and
that
it's
the
benchmark.
Q
P
Hi
councilmember
rennis,
thank
you
for
the
question
and
we
really
appreciated
this
question
because
it
did
cause
us
to
look
at
how
we
do
it
right
because
we
know
how
we
do
it.
We
know
it
works,
but
we
never
really
had
to
explain
it
in
this
fashion.
So
when
we
had
this
direction,
it
was
actually
it's
kind
of
fun
because
we
kind
of
researched.
You
know
what
are
the
rules
right
so
myself
and
rob
lang
and
brian
anderson
as
well
as
steve
donahue.
P
We
started
looking
at
the
rules
right
and
how
does
how
does
this
all
work
right?
How
does
when
we
put
out
a
policy?
How
does
it
all
work
out
in
the
end,
so
it
starts
off.
Like
what's
said
in
the
memo
and
what
was
said
in
the
presentation
is
the
research
and
development
unit
sends
out
an
email,
that's
department-wide,
and
there
are
some
responsibilities
for
not
only
police
officers
but
sergeants
and
supervisors
to
basically
learn
these
these
items
right
and
and
put
them
into
practice
right.
So
that's
the
first
step.
P
The
second
step
is
all
the
other
things
that
we
spoke
about
and
I'll
speak
about
some.
I
can
elaborate
wherever
you
want.
I
don't
want
to
talk
in
circles
here,
but
one
of
the
things
that
happens
is
recently
since
we
transferred
in
2012
to
our
new
report
writing
system.
All
of
the
reports
are
reviewed
by
sergeants
at
the
patrol
level
right.
So
there's
a
patrol
sergeant
that
reviews
every
report
and
usually
the
any
problems
with
policy
are
found
at
that
level.
P
Those
those
same
reports
are
also
read
in
the
bureau
of
investigations
by
sergeants
here
in
boi,
right
in
bureau
of
investigations,
and
what
happens
is
when
we
see
issues
that
maybe
they're
not
following.
P
You
know
the
duty
manual
perfectly
right,
because
we're
all
fallible
we're
human
right
and
things
are
new,
and
sometimes
we
don't
get
it
right.
What
we
do
is
we
reach
out
to
people
and
we
try
to
you
know,
inform
them
right
and
say:
hey
listen.
This
is
what
we
saw
you
write
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
that
that
you,
this
is
what
you're
supposed
to
do
and
and
we
make
sure
that
that's
not
occurring
in
the
future
right
so,
and
we've
seen
success
in
that.
P
There's
other
things
that
we
do
it's
sergeant
staff
where
we
go
into
sergeant
staff
where
sergeants
and
lieutenants
and
ships
are
present,
so
we
can
explain
to
them
right
because,
being
in
person
is
really
good
to
say,
hey,
listen!
This
is
what
the
policy
is.
Do
you
have
any
questions
right
because
sometimes
people
read
it,
but
they
don't
really
understand
it
fully.
We
also
attend
briefings
where
we
do
the
same.
So
officers
can
ask
questions
like
hey.
Listen,
I'm
not
really
understanding
that.
Can
you
explain
it
to
me?
P
Can
you
give
me
you
know
an
analdol
story
or
how
would
that
look
in
this
scenario?
So
we
can,
you
know,
enforce
the
practices
right
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
also
did
and
I'm
gonna
get
off
track
and
I'll
continue
to
go,
and
please
tell
me
when
to
stop,
but
we
we
took
over
the
learning
domains
in
the
academy
for
each
specific
unit
right
and
I
think
that's
really
important,
because
one
thing
is
learning
what
you're
supposed
to
do
and
the
other
thing
is
being
like
mentored
and
counseled
on
how
how?
P
How
does
the
department
want
this
to
look
right
and
having
you
know
units
you
know
I,
when
we
did
our
first
training
for
our
first
academy,
I
did
a
10-minute
speech
and
I
kind
of
gave
them
an
overview
about
what
the
expectation
is
right.
What
is
trauma
of
informed?
How
do
we
you
know?
What
does
council
want?
What
does
chief
motto
want?
What's
doi
want
to
see,
you
know?
What's
our
chief
chief
washburn
want
like?
What's
you
know,
and
we
can
really
tell
them
like
hey?
P
I
don't
that
wasn't
exhaustive,
but
I
don't
want
to
give
you
a
long-winded
question
or
answer,
but
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
to
make
sure
that
whatever
the
policy
is
it's
being
followed,
and
now
we
have
multiple
ways
of
catching
things
that
are
not
being
followed
and
multiple
ways
of
intervening
to
make.
Sure
we
get
to
where
we
want
to
go,
and
the
reality
is
is
that
most
officers
are
pretty
perceptive
and
if
they
don't
know,
they
ask
a
lot
of
questions.
P
Especially
more
recently,
the
younger
officers
ask
a
lot
of
questions
which
is
really
good
and
from
reading
the
reports
it
seems
like
they're
getting
it
right
and
I
can
only
speak
in
for
sau.
I
don't
know
if
lieutenant
anderson
or
lieutenant
lang
if
they
want
to
add
to
what
they're
seeing
in
their
respective
units,
but
that's
in
general,
what
I'm
seeing
and
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question.
Councilmember
rennis.
L
I'm
having
just
as
much
fun
as
you
are
lieutenant.
I
called
you
captain
because
I
thought
it
was
official
already.
I
saw
it
in
the
presentation
and
I
thought
well,
I'm
just
gonna
start
calling
him
captain
so
so
now.
This
is
absolutely
interesting.
L
I'm
glad
that
that
is
as
intriguing
to
you,
as
as
it
is
to
the
rest
of
us
who
advocate
but
may
not
be
in
your
shoes
or
may
have
never
been
in
your
shoes
in
terms
of
the
practice,
and
so
I'm
I
gain
a
lot
of
insight
as
you're
as
you're.
Sharing
some
of
this
breakdown.
L
L
I
think
it
was
case
number
17,
and
it
was
somebody
who
had
come
into
the
main
lobby
and
wasn't
this
person
wasn't
provided
a
a
private
location
to
file
their
complaint
of
sexual
assault,
and
so
we
had
already
addressed
this
practice
or
this.
This
change
right.
We
had
a
change
and
I
think,
with
some
of
the
funding
that
that
the
mayor
had
approved
about
two
or
three
years
ago.
We
provided
some
of
that.
L
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
partitions
or
the
funding
for
the
actual
changes
and
so
and
so
to
me.
I
thought
well,
it's
already
done
right,
it's,
they
know
the
practice.
We
helped
with
the
environment,
now
everything's
gelling
and
it's
taking
place,
but
but
you
you
spoke
about
how.
L
How
does
it
really
look
in
in
in
real
life
in
practice?
Right,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
continue
to
ask
those
questions.
I
love
that
you're
asking
these
questions.
I'd
love
that
you're
exploring
these
the
training,
the
learning
domains
and
you're,
taking
a
look
at
that
you're
really
digging
in
because
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
change
these
systems.
L
That
may
be
archaic,
and
especially
for
women
and
men,
as
you
heard
earlier
today,
it's
for
both
and
so
there's
a
lot
that
gets
translated
into
practice
by
choosing
the
right
set
of
words
by
relaying
it
in
in
just
the
right
way,
and
so
for
me,
it's
important
that
this
be
given
the
you
know
enough
practice,
not
not
just
an
email
that
goes
out,
because
I,
if
it's
anything
like
my
email
inbox,
it's
10,
000
emails
and
sometimes
when
it's
a
little
too
long.
L
I
go
to
the
top
of
the
bottom.
I
skim
like
we
skip
in
our
masters
school
because
we
can't
read
all
those
peer-reviewed
articles.
Okay,
now
it's
just
post-traumatic
stress
syndrome
from
from
my
master's,
but
this
is
this
is
part
of
what
we
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis:
human
beings.
We
we
sometimes
are
overloaded.
L
Our
police
officers
are
working
a
lot
and
and
and
in
overtime,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
continually
look
at
some
of
these
practices
that
that
you're
using
to
have
in
real
life
examples
and
and
taking
this
one
step
further.
L
L
L
I
worked
in
a
female-dominated
field
which
is
nonprofits
for
some
time
and
you
hardly
see
males
and,
and
you
miss
that
perspective
that
they
bring
in,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
love
seeing
chief
washburn
here
because
it
it
really
does
add
to
some
of
the
blind
spots.
If
you
will,
it
is
a
lack
of
better
word,
but
things
that
we
may
not
think
about,
because
we
just
are
not
of
that
gender
or
just
didn't,
have
the
same
type
of
experience.
L
So
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
asked
this.
I
made
this
comment
in
our
first
item,
but
I'll
make
it
again
and
I'll
ask
for
specifically
if
we
could.
L
If
we
could
sorry
if
we
could
integrate
the
into
the
gender-based
violence
response
and
strategy
work
plan,
the
updates
that
that
you
gave
us
right
now
that
were
on
page
eight,
that
don't
really
have
a
space
for
them.
In
the
work
plan
you
you
gave
us
kind
of
a
bit
of
a
just
a
you
know.
One
word
update
in
in
the
previous
item,
but
this
kind
of
update
allows
me
to
understand.
L
Oh
here,
you
are
with
with
the
intersectionality
tool,
update
right
that
I
mentioned
in
the
first
item-
and
I
said
you
know-
hopefully
that's
moving
along
and
here
in
this
report
says
it's
moving
along
right,
so
it
kind
of
answers.
The
question
that
I
had
earlier
in
an
earlier
item
and
just
to
put
a
little
more
finality
there,
I'm
hoping
that
you
can
give
me
a
date.
Is
there
an
approximate
date,
a
target
completion
date
for
this
intersectionality
tool,
update.
P
Yes,
councilmember
rennes,
so
we
heard
you
when
you
said
what
you
said
earlier
in
the
year
and
it
resonated
with
us
right.
It
made
a
lot
of
sense,
so
we
immediately
started
working
on
that
and
in
this
case
rob
lang
did
a
lot
of
the
work
because
it
brought
it
brings
in
domestic
violence.
P
Mostly
so,
and
I
keep
on
saying
saiu-
and
I
hope
everybody
knows
when
I
say
sau
that
includes
ywca,
because
they're
one
of
our
in-house
partners,
when
I
say
sau,
it
also
includes
living
mansfield,
because
a
lot
of
the
policies
that
we
did,
the
ywca
reviewed
a
lot
of
it
too,
and
we
we
did
seek
their
input.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
as
well.
But
to
answer
your
question,
it's
pretty
much
done
so
what
happens
right?
You
create
the
policy.
You
you
make.
The
document
look
different.
P
You
add
the
wording.
You
change
some
duty
manual
sections.
It
goes
over
to
the
city
attorney's
office
for
review
right.
So
all
these
things
have
been
done.
P
The
last
thing
that
we're
waiting
for
essentially,
is
that-
and
I
don't
know
where
it's
at
and
steve
may
answer
this,
but
we're
moving
it
through
the
chain
of
command
for
for
review
internally
to
make
sure
the
chief
officers
are
okay
with
what
we're
doing
right,
and
so
I
don't
know
where
it's
at
in
in
that
point,
but
I
would
assume
that
that
wouldn't
take
very
long
and
that
this
would
be
something
that
we
would
be
able
to
get
approval
for
relatively
quickly.
P
My
assumption
is
that
the
chiefs
officers
agree
with
us
and
it'd
go
to
print
right
and
then
once
we
go
to
print
it's
it's
relatively
the
time
that
we're
waiting
for
is
because
remember
the
form
is
a
paper
form,
but
they
have
to
automate
it
on
the
record
management
system
side,
which
is
something
they
can
do
relatively
quickly
because
those
people
work
in-house.
So
the
answer
is
it's
done,
but
all
the
little
things
that
need
to
happen
to
make
sure
it
goes
forward.
P
B
No,
I
think
your
original
hunch,
maybe
steve,
might
be
able
to
provide
an
update
as
to
when
the
memorandum
would
be
published
to
the
chief
officers,
and
you
know,
as
far
as
the
the
automation
of
it.
Obviously
that
would
be
for
maybe
bts
to
report
out
on,
but
I
think
to
your
point:
yes,
the
the
heavy
lifting
and
the
legwork
for
the
investigative
units
and
the
collaboration
with
the
ywbca.
That
much
is
done.
No,
it's
just
kind
of
operational
logistics.
Steve.
Do
you
have
more.
F
If
we
get
the
afr
rms
system
to
be
able
to
upgrade
right
away
the
problem
with
what's
happening
with
afrms
right
now
is
we
have
some
back
end
upgrades
that
are
being
done,
which
may
slow
the
process
down
and
getting
the
digital
copy
out
to
the
officers
and
being
able
to
fill
it
out.
So
I
can't
promise
the
four
to
five
week.
That's
why
I
said
I
wanted
to
get
it
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
know
we're
going
to
get
it
done
this
fall.
L
Thank
you
know
that
that
isn't
enough
of
a
an
update.
Now
I
I
can
we'll
leave
it
to
bureaucracy
of
our
government
that
sometimes
because
we
want
to
be
efficient.
We
create
these
processes
that
sometimes
take
us
a
little
bit
longer,
but
we
check
off
all
our
dot
our
eyes
and
cross
rt.
So
so
that's
wonderful.
The
now
that
we're
talking
a
little
bit
about
publication.
L
I
think
it
has
final
approval,
but
would
we
be
able
to
see
it
before
it
gets
published?.
F
From
what
I
understand,
lieutenant
langell
will
actually
be
a
best
resource
on
this,
but
we
did
finish
the
cards
and
in
multiple
languages
and
sent
them
to
the
printer
rob.
Can
you
talk
on
that.
B
Yes
hi,
this
is
lieutenant
robline.
Here
I
apologize
for
no
video.
My
wi-fi
is
very
weak
where
I'm
at
right
now
and
I
don't
want
it
to
crash
the
the
cards.
We
worked
with
the
district
attorney's
office,
the
entire
group
that
does
the
domestic
violence
protocol
for
all
law
enforcement
and
county
that
entire
group
has
been
working
on
that
over
the
last
couple
months.
We've
finalized
it
just
very
recently
within
the
last
couple
weeks,
as
mentioned
before,
we
have
it
in
four
languages
for
the
previous
auditor's
recommendations.
B
B
The
district
attorney's
office
is
about
to
release
them
as
well
for
the
county-wide
people,
but
this
I'll
be
back
in
november
to
do
the
db
update
for
the
year
and
at
that
time
I
look
forward
to
hopefully
being
able
to
tell
you
that
they're
already
out
on
the
streets.
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
hopefully
no
more
than
a
couple
weeks
at
this
point,
but
I
hope
to
have
very
good
news
in
two
months,
when
I
speak
to
you
again.
L
Wonderful
lieutenant,
thank
you
so
much
and
it
sounds
like
you
might
have
mirrored
what
the
d.a
was
also
doing,
what
the
county
was
doing
in
terms
of
the
resource
card.
B
Yes,
it
was
a
collaborative
effort.
I
sit
on
that
same
group,
so
it
was
all
of
the
the
major
players
and
not
just
law
enforcement.
We
got.
You
know
our
advocate
partners
and
we've
got
a
bunch
of
different
groups
from
throughout
the
from
out
throughout
the
county.
So
it's
a
very
thrill
card
and
that
a
lot
of
updates
were
made
to
it.
It's
much
improved.
L
I
appreciate
it
and
the
only
reason
I
was
asking
is
because
there
was
a
a
slight
detail
that
our
advocates
didn't
want
on
the
resource
card
that
I
I
believe
we
had
in
included,
but-
and
it
was
based
on
another
member
of
our
council
or
the
mayor.
I
can't
remember
who
exactly
but
anyways
they
they
said
that
they
didn't
want
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
wasn't
within
that
card.
L
But
I'm
guessing
that
if
you
followed
what
the
county
was
expressing
and
the
advocates
were
there
with
you,
then
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
and-
and
they
probably
cross
that
tee.
For
me.
B
L
Okay,
wonderful
and
then
I
think
the
last
thing
that
I
was
going
to
ask
is
about
the
I'm
going
back
to
the
training,
I
think
in
the
report.
It
has
558
officers.
These
are
patrol
officers
that
are
that
have
been
trained
so
far.
P
So,
council,
member,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
going
to
take
you
back
to
the
previous
question
and
answer
this
one.
Second,
so
there's
two
resources
cards
that
we're
dealing
with
right.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
right
so
rob
lang.
There's
a
domestic
violence,
resource
card,
that's
given
to
survivors
of
domestic
violence
in
strangulation
cases
and
on
our
side.
There's
a
sexual
assault
card
right,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
that
we're
talking
about
two
different
cards
that
are
in
two
different
they're
at
two
different
points.
P
Right
so
rob
did
a
great
job
talking
about
his
card
with
the
domestic
violence
side
and
I'll.
Tell
you
a
little
about
the
sexual
assault
card,
so
rob
works
with
a
different
ada
james,
gonna
shapiro
on
his
side,
and
I
work
with
terry
harmon
on
our
side,
myself
and
brian
anderson.
Our
part
is
essentially
done
and,
like
you
said
it
is
a
county
card
right.
So,
but
what
we
did
was
we
incorporated
what
we
were
doing
for
our
card
and
we
also
satisfied
some
areas
of
the
sexual
assault
bill
of
rights.
P
I
don't
know
remember
we're
doing
that
in
conjunction,
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
right.
We
have
the
the
bill
of
rights,
we
have
requests
from
council.
We
have
the
the
auditors
things
so
we're
trying
to
accomplish
a
lot
of
different
things
at
the
same
time,
so
our
card
at
the
on
the
sexual
assault
side,
we
met
with
lindsay
and
a
bunch
of
other
our
partners
and
had
input.
So
it
was
advocates
that
did
look
at
that.
P
We
made
some
changes
based
off
what
council
wanted
and
then
we
were
presenting
that
we
actually
already
presented
that
to
the
da's
office,
so
they
had
some
things
that
they
had
to
do
to
finalize
some
some
words
that
they
wanted
to
change
and
just
do
some
research
so
we're
meeting
with
them
next
week.
So
they're
going
to
show
us
what
the
final
card
is
and
we're
going
to
collaborate
so.
Q
P
Great,
I
can
ask
terry
harmon
to
reach
out
to
you
if
you'd
like
and
see
if
she
can
show
you
the
car
before
she
finalizes
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
a
county
card,
so
whatever
the
county
decides
to
do
with
it.
You
know
we're
making
a
lot
of
recommendations
and
we
did
tell
them
what
all
the
different
things
that
are
going
on
perfect.
L
Perfect,
it
sounds
like
you
and
lieutenant
lang
were
on
the
same
page,
even
though
we
were
talking
about
two
different
cards.
He
recognized
that
there
was
this
issue
that
was
brought
up
by
advocates
and
made
sure
to
share
it.
So
so
I'm
really
grateful.
L
I
know
that
you
are
all
on
the
same
page
and
I'm
not
trying
to
test
you,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
I
keep
my
word
to
our
advocates
and
that
I
committed
not
to
having
some
of
that
some
of
that
language
as
they
didn't
see
it
victim-centered
talking
about
advocates,
I'm
going
to
create
my
own
segue
here.
L
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at,
for
you
know,
or
just
our
commitment
for
continuous
improvement
is
to
have
all
of
the
have
all
of
the
kind
of
measurable
outcomes
aligned
with
some
of
our
advocates
and
within
our
units,
so
that
we
are
all
taking
a
look
at
the
same
thing,
and
so
I
know
that
this
duty
manual,
update
is
is
one
step
towards
creating
that
right
and
we're
all
doing
the
same
thing
or
we're.
Taking
this.
L
This
specific
specific
response,
but
I
think
we
we
also
need
to
take
a
look
at
that
alignment
of
measurable
outcomes
and
the-
and
I
know
the
the
auditor
also
alluded
to
this
in
in
his
report,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can.
You
know
I'm
going
to
make
a
a
motion
and
then
include
approve
the
the
report
and
include
that
our
city
manager
add
to
our
police
department,
duty
manual,
updates
status
reports
and
to
the
gender-based
violence
response
and
strategy
work
plan.
L
I
know
it's
a
mouthful
to
include
this
remaining
kind
of
unresolved
item
on
the
alignment
of
measurable
outcomes
and
then
I
think
it
would
be
great
for
us
to
continue
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information
other
than
you
know,
approved
or
completed
on
that
work
plan.
When
we,
when
we
have
the
bi-monthly
reports,
like
you
did
in
this
report
on
page
eight,
you
reflected
like
the
status
on
the
risk
resource
cards.
L
The
intersectionality
tool
update
a
little
bit
more
information
on
the
non-investigative
reports,
just
so
that
you
know
I'm
probably.
This
would
probably
answer
my
questions
and
I
wouldn't
have
to
ask
the
101
during
pistas
and
I'm
sure
the
chair
would
really
appreciate
that.
L
So
I'm
hoping
that
the
the
motion
can
include
that,
so
that
we
can
have
these
kinds
of
updates
in
the
report
and
to
have
a
bit
of
a
a
rundown
if
you
will
on
on
some
of
the
items
versus
just
having
ongoing
or
con.
You
know
in
progress
or
completed,
because
I
think,
like
the
bi-monthly
report
is
completed,
it
just
has
completed.
Obviously
it's
an
ongoing
item.
L
L
Yeah,
actually,
the
non-investigative
rep,
okay,
one
one
more,
the
non-investigative
reports-
I
know
I
know
chair,
but
the
the
the
one
thing
that
that
stood
out
for
me
is
like
the
non-investigated
reports
that
are
being
done
by
our
my
gosh,
not
our
police
department.
But
our
help
me
out
lieutenant
jimenez
captain
so.
P
Yeah,
so
it's
our
advocates
in
our
safe
team
right.
They
they
they
are
the
so
nir's
non-investigative
reports,
law
enforcement
doesn't
get
involved
in
those
and
right.
Our
advocate
teams
in
our
our
medical
teams
are
the
ones
that
you
know,
process
those
things
and
get
them
over
to
us
for
on
the
met
on
the
evidence,
side
of
the
fence
and
and
we
store
the
evidence
and
we
we
do
that
type
of
stuff.
But
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
specific
question
related
to
that.
L
Yeah,
so
when
those
non-investigative
reports
happen,
or
somebody
indicates
that
they
don't
want
to
investigate,
does
this
does
the
does
this
get
kind
of
detoured
over
to
our
community
service
officers
or
the
community
service
officers?
Just
taking
some
of
that
doing
some
of
that
paperwork
or
documentation,
and
then
eventually
it
gets
either
set
on
goes
back
to
the
unit
and
the
unit,
just
you
know,
archives
it
or
something
until
that
survivor
is
ready.
L
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
what
is
that
role
of
that
community
service
officer
and
then
the
the
type
of
training
that
they're
being
offered,
I'm
hoping
is
the
same
that
the
rest
of
our
patrol
and
investigative
units
are
offered
so
that
they
can
deal
with
it.
The
same
way.
P
Yeah
right
so
the
csos
are
brought
on
board
to
help
alleviate
officers
responses,
because
it
doesn't
require
an
interview
of
the
survivor
right,
because
the
survivor
doesn't
want
to
talk
to
the
police
at
that
point
right.
So,
rather
than
making
a
patrol
officer
go
there
and
what
was
happening
was
the
safe
team
was
saying,
hey
like
sometimes
police
officers
are
delayed
and
that's
understandable.
P
P
A
police
report
collects
any
evidence
that
was
collected
books
it
into
evidence
and
basically
gets
the
case
to
a
point
where
we
can
have
all
the
information
we
need
to
have
in
the
event
that
the
survivor
changes
her
mind
or
his
mind
later
right,
so
that
we
can
investigate
the
case
so
that
we've
made
a
lot
of
changes
to
do
that
in
regards
to
training
what
we
did
was
sau
specifically
trained
all
the
existing
csos.
P
We
gave
a
two-hour
block
of
train
on
where's
the
location
they're
going
to
go
to
what
are
the
types
of
questions
they
need
to
ask.
Where
does
the
evidence
need
to
go
to
and
we
really
broke
it
down
so
that
they
can
understand,
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
really
really
understand
and
then
what
we
do
now
is
we
attend
every
new
cso
academy?
We
attend
the
academy
and
we
provide
the
two-hour
training
and
you
know
we
had.
We
had
been
asked,
you
know
hey.
P
Do
you
want
to
just
transfer
the
train
to
the
csos
and
we
said
no,
we
want
to
keep
it
because
we
want
to
make
sure
things
change
right.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
sau,
the
detectives
who
are
you
know
really
experienced,
have
the
ability
to
do
that
and
and
when
the
training
needs
to
be
changed
or
modified.
We
can
do
that
as
well.
L
Perfect
last
question
is
I'm
back
to
my
point
that
I
made
earlier
on
this
item
and
that
is
child
abuse
reports
that
are
gonna
overwhelm
the
system
and
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
if
there's
a
a
sexual
assault
or
a
robbery
in
progress
or
something
of
that
sort
that
that
creates
for
that
child
abuse
report
to
go
lower
in
the
queue
chief
mata.
L
We
we
talked
about
this
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
have
a
follow-up,
and
maybe
the
chair
could
also
lead
this
conversation
with
us
on
on
how
the
protocol
will
accommodate
some
of
these
child
abuse
reports
that
we,
our
administrators,
are
expecting.
And
how
do
we
work
with
one
another
so
that
they
can
feel
that
there's
progress
and
they're
not
waiting
on
on
somebody,
because
you
know
timing
is
of
the
essence
when
survivors
ready
to
talk.
M
Thank
you,
council
member.
Yes,
we
had
those
discussions
in
terms
of
especially
when
it
comes
to
to
schools
when
it's
out
of
school
and
the
survivor
is
at
at
the
residence
then
like
anything
else,
will
will
respond
there,
but
they're
at
the
school
and
again
it
all
depends
on
resources
and
what
the
priority
calls
are
in
that
in
that
area,
where
an
officer
will
respond
and
for
for
the
schools.
M
That's
something
that
we'll
reach
out
with
the
school
liaison
to
see
what
that
would
look
like
and
how
they
would
report
it,
just
just
like
normal
to
9-1-1,
as
opposed
to
an
officer,
that's
on
site
and
try
to
get
our
resources
there
as
soon
as
possible
and
kind
of
like
the
discussions
that
we
had
if
they're
not
available
and
the
survivor
goes
home.
I
think
that's,
maybe
something
where
or
goes
to
a
different
location.
M
L
The
majority,
if
we
take
a
look
at
back
at
the
majority
of
the
pattern
and
trends,
usually
their
children
under
the
age
of
13
and
then
the
second
category,
is
children
between
13
and
18
or
16,
and
so
it
most
of
the
time
there
isn't
a
a
school
liaison
for
elementary
school
for
elementary
schools.
The
liaisons
are
thought
to
be
more
on
high
school
campuses,
and
so
are
you
saying
that
you
would
extend
those
liaisons
to
the
elementary
schools.
M
The
liaisons
also
work
with
elementary
schools,
so
we
can
definitely.
You
know,
look
at
that
and
again
expand
that
to
to
include
those
those
schools
and
those
districts,
but,
more
importantly,
is
to
get
the
school
administrators
to
report.
Give
us
a
call
and
then
we'll
work
on
on
our
end
at
our
9-1-1
center
to
get
those
specific
for
follow-up.
L
Great
well,
you
know
I
would
love
to
include
this
in
my
motion.
L
I'll
leave
it
open
chair
because
you're
in
charge
of
our
work
plan
for
committee,
but
I'd
like
to
carry
on
with
this
conversation,
is
there
I
think,
there's
there's
details
that
we
need
to
connect
in
terms
of
could
csos
respond
if,
if,
if
there
isn't
any
police
officers
that
are
available
and
and
the
need
is
now
or
how
do
we
work
with
the
county
to
make
sure
that
they
may
cover
this
with
through
their
child
advocacy
center
liaisons
there?
L
I
I
mean-
I
just
think
that
there's
some
options
to
explore
here
and
so
I'll
leave
it
open.
But
I'm
interested
in
carrying
on
with
this
conversation,
we're
in
with
the
second
month
of
school
and
and
I'm
sure
that
that
our
kids
are
feeling
a
lot
more
comfortable
in
person
and
soon
enough,
we'll
start
seeing
a
huge
wave
of
reports,
and
I
fear
for
our
children
and
and
hope
that
that
sometimes
our
bureaucracy
gets
in
the
way,
and
I
don't
want
that
to
happen.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Next
up
will
be
vice
mayor
jones,.
K
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
wanted
just
to
commend
council
member
arenas
from
the
moment
she
served
on
the
council,
she's
been
tenacious
in
her
advocacy
for
domestic
against
domestic
violence
and
child
abuse
and
sexual
assault
and
just
protecting
families.
So
I
you
know,
I
just
want
to
get
it
out
there
that
you
know
I
I
respect
and
admire
all
of
your
hard
work
and
dedication,
and
and
also
that
you
should
feel
proud
that
you
know
we've
seen
significant
progress.
K
Obviously
we
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
as
far
as
you
know
your
legacy
and
what
you
have
accomplished
on
the
council,
you
should
be
very
proud
and
I
also
want
to
commend
also
the
police
department
and
all
the
nonprofits
and
everyone
else.
Who's
been
involved
in
trying
to
make
our
community
safer
and
our
families
safer
and
our
children
safer.
So
again
I
just
want
to
get
that
out.
K
There
chair,
I
gotta,
go,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
stay
for
the
last
item,
and
I
don't
know
about
my
colleagues,
but
I
want
to
make
a
request
if
we
can
defer
the
the
last
item
to
the
next
committee
meeting
I
like
to
make
that
request.
A
Let
me
check
with
councilmember
mayhem.
Are
you
I'm
good
until
five
we're
pushing
that
limit
pretty
closely
here,
but
yeah,
I'm
also
good
until
five
weeks,
counseling
yeah
we'll
carry
on
then,
but
we
will.
I
I
just
had.
Were
you
done
with
this
with
this
item
counselor
vice
mayor.
L
Can
I
just
say
thank
you
to
vice
meyer.
Thank
you
for
saying
that
I
smiled
because
you
said
tenacious
and
I
I
I
know
I
know
that
that
that
I'm
I'm
pretty
persistent
on
this
and
so
last
time
we
had
this
bi-monthly
report.
These
guys
made
me
cry
in
terms
of
the
changes
that
they
were
making.
L
I
seriously
I'm
absolutely
grateful
to
all
the
hard
work,
because
I
know
it's
not
just
these
reports,
but
it's
a
lot
of
conversations
and
and
taking
a
look
at
things
very
differently,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
it
and
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
chief
mata,
because
I
know
that
that
it
it
has
to
begin
with
the
top
and
so
lieutenant
jimenez
and
and
anderson
and
donahue
and
lang.
L
I
don't
see
him,
but
but
everybody
has
added
to
that
picture,
and
so
I'm
really
proud
and
and
grateful
to
my
colleagues
here
at
in
pizfas,
so
anyways.
A
I
had
a
question
just
in
regards
to
the
motion
to
make
sure
that
that
pd
is
is
comfortable
with
what
and
clear
on
what
it
is
that
you
need
to
bring
back
in
the
the
bi-monthly.
H
F
Thank
you,
council
member.
It
sounds
like
councilmember
arenas,
you'll
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it
sounds
like
you
want
just
a
little
more
information
on
each
one
of
those
work
plan
items
similar
to
what
lieutenant
jimenez
did
in
his
his
memo,
with
just
just
a
line
or
two
to
let
you
know
where
each
one
of
them
is
in
the
actual
item.
Does
that
sound
right?
F
That's
no
problem!
We
can
do
that.
I
I
I
do
ask,
though,
because
I'm
the
I'm
the
guy
that
does
the
bi-monthly
report.
If
you're
going
to
ask
in-depth
questions,
I
am
not
the
sharpest
pencil
sometimes
so,
just
give
me
a
heads
up
and
we'll
make
sure
to
have
lieutenant
ximena's
here
to
answer
your
questions.
A
Okay,
perfect
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear.
It
sounds
like
it
is
with
lieutenant
donohue,
but
recognizing
you're,
not
the
jack-of-all-trades
on
all
these
issues.
So
appreciate
that
and
then
I'll
just
mention
as
a
as
I
a
former
school
resource
officer
for
six
years.
A
The
number
one
report
that
I
took
on
campus
was
sexual
assault
related,
and
so
I
do
know
that
that
is
that
it's
a
loss
to
to
schools
to
not
have
sros
on
campus
and
and
again
things
to
think
of
right
as
some
of
these
decisions
were
made
and-
and
maybe
the
implications
were
not
completely
thought
out
ahead
of
time.
But
I
know
that
was
the
number
one
report
that
I
took
as
an
sro.
Unfortunately,
so,
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
F
B
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
that
moves
us
down
to
our
last
item.
Item
d4,
our
workers,
compensation
program,
annual
report
and
we
do
have
just
over
10
minutes,
and
so
if
we
could
be
brief
on
the
report
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
to
limit
public
comment
for
the
duration
of
the
meeting
to
one
minute.
Q
Thank
you.
We
are.
B
Also
open
to
not
doing
the
presentation
and
just
answering
questions,
but
eric
is
here
and
eric
can
present
and
do
it
quickly
if
you'd
like
us
to
do
so.
A
I'm
comfortable
with
that
I'll
ask
my
my
colleagues.
I
have
reviewed
the
presentation
I
used
to
have
some
issues
with
this.
As
snap
knows,
I'm
comfortable
with
the
latest
reports
that
have
come
forward.
We
made
all
the
big
decisions
a
couple
years
ago,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
Would
any
of
my
colleagues
on
the
committee
prefer
to
see
the
presentation
sounds
like
no.
That
was
part
of
the
package,
so
we
will
go
over
to
members
of
the
public
and
again
this
is
a
public
comment
on
item
d4.
A
The
workers,
compensation
program,
update
annual
report
and
you
will
have
one
minute,
we'll
start
off
with
paul
soto.
H
Yes,
I
went
to
the
meeting
by
which
these
compensation,
packets
are
approved
or
disapproved,
and
I
would
just
ask
that
maybe
a
little
bit
more
oversight
because
it
looked
and
sounded
very
like
like
especially
for
something
that's
critical
it
did.
There
really
was
no
analysis,
no
challenge,
no,
oh,
okay,
yeah!
What's
this,
okay,
look
and,
and
it
just
for
for
my
comfort
level,
it
was
a
little
bit
too
suspicious
because
of
that,
how
comfortable
and
how
like,
methodical
and
like
this
is
expected.
You
just
give
it
to
him.
E
Hi,
thank
you.
Blair,
beekman
here.
You've
done
some
interesting
work
with
city
government
pay
raises
recently.
I
think
it
can
be
good
examples
for
the
vta
that
very
much
need
a
good
such
examples
at
this
time.
Hopefully
this
item
can
help
berkeley
and
oakland
east
bay.
Cities
are
are
looking
into
the
same
sorts
of
changes
to
their
pay.
Pay
rate
raises
at
this
time
for
city
government
workers.
Good
luck
with
34
seconds
how
this
relates
to
cobit
issues.
I
think
it's
really
important.
E
This
fall
that
we
have
a
better
conversation
about
the
vaccine
passport
process
and
that
can
be
manageable
for
and
and
the
vaccine
process
it
can
be
manageable
or
we
can
have
choices
and
creative
good
choices.
You
know,
weekly
coveted
tests
can
be
an
acceptable
system.
At
this
point,
I
feel
for
some
who
are
just
genuinely
uncomfortable
with
the
process.
Can
you
learn
to
make
that
process
more
open
and
accessible?
This
fall.
Thank
you.
A
Mr
cincini,
please
unmute
using
star
six.
Thank
you.
I
I
Yeah
I'd
like
to
see
the
transparency
of
workmen's
comps
claims,
especially
for
police
and
fire.
I
could
just
imagine
you
guys
probably
had
to
take
a
workman's
comp
claim
for
getting
your
feelings
hurt
out
there.
I
guarantee
it
and
yeah
I
like
to
see
more
transparency
regarding
workman's
comp.
It's
a
it's
a
huge
sum
of
money,
and
then
you
know,
police
and
fire
are.
I
Going
out
on
that
retirement
disability,
with
that
injury
that
they
have
then
go
run
a
marathon
during
their
retirement.
It's
been
done,
it's
been
done,
yeah
just.
We
need
more
transparency
for
workman's
comps
claims,
because
this
city
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
afford
all
the
health
care
workers,
comp
and
retirement.
I.
A
Think
you
are
last
speaker
will
be
tessa
woodman.
J
D
Chasing
you
know,
criminals
or
whatever
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
accidents
that
happen.
I
mean
people
have
been
killed.
D
B
A
A
Thank
you
go
back
to
the
committee
director
or
excuse
me,
councilmember
mayhem.
B
Thanks
chair
I'll,
be
super
brief.
Thank
you
for
the
detailed
memo
really
was
happy
to
see
the
nearly
1.4
million
dollar
savings
against
the
modified
budget.
That
I
presume
is,
is
all
good
news.
I
I
was
trying
to
just
understand
in
there
yeah
it's
great
well
done
trying
to
understand.
If
you
I
don't
know
if
you
can
know
this,
but
to
what
extent
that
may
be
due
to
more
work
from
home
and
just
sort
of
covet
specific
changes
versus
other
preventative
measures
or
initiatives
that
we're
undertaking.
B
B
When
it
comes
to
number
of
claims
and
total
costs,
I
mean
they
make
up
roughly
15
million
of
that
19
million
as
an
example,
as
you
saw
in
the
report,
so
I
think
one
of
the
initiatives
that
has
really
helped
is
the
fast
lane
that
we
rolled
out
with
the
firefighters
and
then
with
police.
It
was
received
very
well
by
the
department.
The
feedback
from
the
officers
and
firefighters
has
been
very
positive.
B
B
So
and
then
I
think
a
big
piece
is
really
the
relationship
with
inner
care
and
into
chair
perlis's
point
that
whole
transition
was
messy
and
I
think
we've
really
developed
some
really
excellent
processes
and
protocols
to
ensure
that
our
employees
are
taken
care
of
and
they've
done,
a
good
job
in
terms
of
the
cost,
containment
programs,
and
so
I
think,
we're
seeing
the
risk
the
savings
that
we're
seeing
are
you
know
a
result
of
all
of
those
different
measures
right.
B
Well,
thanks
for
all
that
extra
context,
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
really
really
positive
sounds
like
things
are
going
in
a
great
direction.
There
appreciate
again
the
very
detailed
memo.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
on
the
preventative
end
I'll
just
add,
because
it
came
into
context
for
conversations
today.
Staffing
is
also
a
major
issue
when
we're
not
staffed
up
adequately
all
the
overtime
that
we
were
talking
about,
people
working
right,
one
of
the
things
in
the
police
department
that
used
to
be
a
regular
opportunity.
When,
when
I
was
on
the
force
we
had
1400
officers
was
the
ability
to
do
physical
training
pt
before
or
after
work.
A
You
know,
and
and
using
an
hour
beginning
a
shift
or
an
hour
end
of
shift
and
be
able
to
use
that
time
there
are.
Those
opportunities
were
brought
back.
You
know
they
went
away
for
a
number
of
years.
They
were
brought
back
but
minimally
and
they're
not
utilized
as
often
because
there's
so
much
work
to
do,
and
you
have
to
get
out
there
and
you
don't
have
the
time
to
to
do
that
and
so
again,
staffing
for
a
number
of
reasons.
A
Right,
we'll
we'll
play
a
toll
in
this
councilman
ray
dennis.
L
A
question
about
if,
if
somebody
gets
hurt
in
their
home,
while
during
work
hours,
where,
where
does
that
place
us.
B
Yeah,
that
would
be
considered
compensable
if
the
injury
arose
out
of
employment
or
was
in
the
course
of
employment.
For
example,
repetitive
motion
injuries
right
with
people
working
on
their
sofa
at
home
and
not
necessarily
having
the
right
setup
if
they
get
injured
and
then
that
would
be
presumed
to
be
work
related.
Obviously,
an
investigation
would
ensue
and
statements
would
be
collected.
We
would
also
obtain
a
doctor's
statement
in
terms
of
what
are
the
objective
findings,
diagnosis,
prognosis
and
was
it
the
mechanism
of
injury?
Did
it
occur
at
home?
L
Got
it
okay,
I
thought
maybe
the
the
coverage
would
be
a
little
different,
and
so
the
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
include
is
in
the
wellness
screening.
I
I
love
that
you're
all
taking
a
look
comprehensively
at
a
person
not
just
their.
You
know
physical
environment
and
and
ergonomics,
but
the
overall
wellness
of
people,
because
it
adds
to
blood
pressure.
L
It
adds,
to
you,
know,
chronic
conditions,
and
so
I
know
this
last
year,
all
of
us
have
dealt
with
a
lot
of
pressure,
and
so
this
is
social
emotional,
and
I
hope
that
you
know
with
the
wellness
screening.
You
know
that
you're
you're
you're,
covering
the
whole
person
that
you
also
include
something
that's
social
emotional,
as
our
employees
have
all
dealt
with
pandemic
in
different
ways
and
have
seen
maybe
loss
of
family
members,
or
even
maybe
employees
or
people
in
their
community.
Q
A
A
We're
narrowly
at
a
quorum
here.
So
thank
you
for
passing
that
item.
We're
now
at
the
final
item,
open
forum
and
everybody
will
have
one
minute.
First
up
we'll
be
tessa
woodman.
D
D
Nobody
wants
to
talk
about
our
climate
crisis,
because
we
really
have
to
do
you
know,
has
to
be
a
transformational
change
in
the
way
we
live
and
so
and
again
back
to
the
safety
of
this
commission
is
that
we
need
to
put
that
into
all
of
our
departments
on
the
issue
of
how
we're
going
to
adjust
and
mitigate
and
build
our
brazilian
communities
in
regards
to
the
horrific
things
that
are
coming
our
way,
and
that
is
what
we
have
to
start
doing
and
to
care
for
the
people
and
prepare
for
what
what
is
coming
and
that's
what.
D
H
I'm
getting
confused
as
to
what
like
justice
looks.
Like
I
mean
those
cops
called
my
probation
officer
after
I
gave
my
pispis
testimony
about
my
treatment.
I
was
locked
up.
I
did
45
days
out
of
my
life.
My
probation
officer
still
won't
tell
me
what
cop
called
this.
This
is
serious
man
and
yet
I
still
didn't
allow
that
to
take
me
away
from
these
meetings.
I
give
my
life
to
these
meetings
and
every
single
person
on
this
panel
knows
that
I'm
talking
hours,
I'm
talking
tens
of
hours
disrespected
I
get
cops
called
on
me.
H
You
perales,
I'm
sitting
there
getting
triggered
by
these
kids
being
beaten
in
juvenile
hall.
You
didn't
even
take
the
courtesy
to
review
that
film
before
you
screened
it,
but
yet
you
had
15-year
undercover
cop
homeboys,
come
and
arrest
me
and
embarrass
me
inside
that
movie
theater.
You
know
that's
exactly
what
you
did
to
me.
Man
and
I
still.
E
E
A
quick
reminder
that
about
the
reform
tests,
reimagine
task
force-
you
know
they-
they
have
a
six-month
deadline
to
work.
With,
with
the
upcoming
kovid
19
economic
forum,
that's
going
to
be
happening
to
the
city,
I
think
it'd
be
important
for
the
reimagined
task
force
to
be
around
and
to
have
a
part
in
that
process.
I
think
it'd
be
really
interesting
and
helpful.
It
is
bringing
all
parts
of
the
community
together
with
17
seconds
left.
E
I
hope
you
can
practice
and
add
the
ideas
of
open
democracy
to
reimagine
and
equity
that
the
task
force
will
be
studying.
It's
really
important
good
work
and
we
can
all
do
this
together.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah
I
mean
I
really
hate
it.
If
more
people
called
and
you
wouldn't
you,
people
down
there
wouldn't
be
able
to
handle,
you
can't
even
handle
paul
soto,
dropping
an
f-bomb
man.
What
else
can't
you
handle?
What
else
won't
you
do?
You
know
perales.
You
know,
you're,
a
teacher,
a
city
council
person,
a
cop
three
strikes
you're
out
man
you're
used
to
controlling
people's
behavior.
You
want
to
control
what
I
say
you
want
to
control
my
tone,
my
decorum.
You
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself.