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From YouTube: MAY 6, 2021 | OIR Group Community Listening Session: Independent Review SJPD Civil Unrest Response
Description
OIR Group Community Listening Session: an Independent Review of SJPD Civil Unrest Response, May 6, 2021.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.granicus.com/DocumentViewer.php?file=sanjose_8d33933ff134b9ae7e8db2e3435bdf48.pdf&view=1
Comments or questions can be emailed to michael.gennaco@oirgroup.com
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B
I
see
that
the
live
transcript
is
on
so
hello,
everyone.
My
name
is
mike
gennako
and
I
am
a
member
principal
of
oer
group,
and
it
is
my
pleasure
to
welcome
you
to
this
webinar
oir
group
is
a
group
of
police
practices,
experts
in
oversight
and
has
been
tasked
with
taking
a
look
at
the
action,
the
way
in
which
the
police
department
of
san
jose
city
of
san
jose
responded
to
the
first
amendment
activity
that
occurred
in
the
days
after
the
george
floyd
murder
in
your
city.
B
B
Oir
group,
as
I
said,
is
an
independent
group
of
police
practices
experts.
We
have
been
doing
oversight
of
police
agencies
in
the
state
of
california
and
elsewhere
for
20
years
now.
Prior
to
that,
I
was
a
prosecutor
in
involved
in
civil
rights
division
and
in
the
u.s
attorney's
office
involved
in
investigating
and
prosecuting
police
misconduct.
B
Let
me
talk
to
you
about
our
role
and
our
assignment.
We
have
been
given
an
assignment
to
independently
evaluate
san
jose
police
department's
response
to
the
demonstrations
in
the
city
in
late
may
and
early
june
of
2020,
and
it
is
entirely
up
to
us
to
define
how
we
evaluate
that.
But
we
are
going
to
use
methods
that
we
have
used
in
the
past
and
are
currently
using
to
make
that
evaluation.
B
It
will
be
a
an
unvarnished
report
of
which
we
have
entire
editorial
control.
We
are
currently
and
have
just
completed
a
number
of
these
projects.
The
demonstrations,
as
many
of
you
know,
were
nationwide.
There
was
a
national
narrative
in
national
fury
and
upset
about
the
floyd
murder
and,
as
a
result
of
that
protest
activity
occurred
throughout
the
country.
We
have
already
completed
a
review
of
the
iowa
city
police
department
and
the
way
in
which
they
responded
to
protest
activity.
B
We
have
just
released
today
our
review
independent
review
of
the
santa
monica
police
department
and
the
way
in
which
they
responded
to
police
activity
to
protest
activity
in
their
city.
And
last
week
we
issued
a
report
regarding
the
santa
rosa
police
department
and
the
way
in
which
they
responded
to
protest
activity
in
their
city.
B
As
this
assignment,
as
I
indicated
just
a
bit
ago,
one
of
the
one
of
our
assignments-
and
we
appreciate
having
this
assignment,
is
to
listen
to
voices
from
all
perspectives
about
that
experience
this
past
summer.
In
your
city,
we
are
also
going
to
be
looking
at
the
raw
material.
By
that
we
mean
the
data,
the
reports
body,
camera,
video,
any
other
surveillance,
video
media,
video
and
any
other
information
that
is
available
for
us
to
take
a
look
at.
B
We
are
going
to
go
into
the
actual
raw
data
and
the
raw
material
in
order
to
perform
this
evaluation
and,
of
course,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
uses
of
force,
the
deployment
of
tear
gas,
the
deployment
of
lethal
munitions
and
the
public's
response
to
and
concerns
about,
the
deployment
of
those
munitions.
We
know
there
has
already
been
a
lot
of
discussion.
B
B
B
I
am
now
going
to
turn
over
the
listening
session.
This
webinar
to
one
of
my
good
friends
and
colleagues,
brian
core
brian
core,
is
the
past
president
of
nicole,
which
is
the
national
association
of
civilian
oversight
of
law
enforcement,
which
is
our
oversight.
Practitioners,
it's
our
organization,
and
it
is
where
we
get
our
information
where
we're
able
to
share
information
throughout
the
country
with
oversight,
practitioners
and
brian
was
a
terrific
leader
during
the
years
that
he
oversaw
the
board
and
the
organization,
and
it
continues
to
be
very
active.
B
C
Well,
thank
you
so
much
mike
both
for
that
introduction,
but
also
for
framing
this
discussion,
I'm
just
very
honored
to
be
able
to
be
a
part
of
this
effort
to
help
listen
deeply
to
the
community
of
san
jose
and
to
ensure
that
your
voices,
your
perspectives,
your
history,
around
the
incidents
that
happened
are
part
of
what
the
oir
group
is
able
to
include
in
its
reporting
and
to
help
move
things
forward
in
the
community.
So
thank
you
for
having
me
be
part
of
this.
C
C
I
want
to
start
by
reviewing
these
meeting
agreements
that
we're
asking
people
to
accept,
and
our
goal
with
these
is
to
ensure
that
voices
are
heard.
Perspectives
are
shared
fairly
equally,
but
also
that
it's
a
safe
space
that
people
feel
free
to
share
their
truth
and
also
free
to
listen.
So
I
will
read
through
these
agreements
and
ask
that
all
participants
do
their
best
to
abide
by
them.
C
C
So
again,
I
know
these
the
issues
that
we're
looking
at
are
very
emotional
troubling,
and
we
also
want
this
to
be
a
space
so
that
people
feel
free
to
speak.
So
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
participate
and
be
part
of
this
and
for
hopefully
accepting
these
meeting
agreements
as
the
basis
for
our
time.
Together,
as
we
listen
deeply
to
the
experience
of
people
in
san
jose.
C
C
You
do
that
with
star9
and
if
you're
muted,
which
you
probably
are
to
unmute
once
you're
ready
to
speak,
you
will
do
star
six
and
also
if
there
are
people
who
are
watching
this
through
youtube
or
are
watching
on
tv,
there
will
be
a
zoom
webinar
link
that
you
can
follow,
so
you
can
actually
participate
in
the
discussion.
If
you
wish.
C
D
E
E
They've
been
a
horrible
police
department
for
decades
they're,
not
they
it's
what
they
do
and
what
they
fail
to
do,
and
it
all
really
started
in
june
of
2016,
when
there
were
trump
supporters
assaulted
by
a
lot
of
people
and
250
san
jose
police
officers
stood
back
and
sheriff
by
the
way
sheriff's
department
stood
back
and
did
nothing
as
people
were
assaulted
right
in
front
of
their
faces.
They
they
were,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
playing
pocket
pool
people
were
assaulted,
hit
to
the
ground
passed
out.
E
C
I
I
I
appreciate
your
passion
and
I
apologize
for
erupting,
but
because
you
are
the
first
caller
I
I
want
to
take
a
moment
just
to
remind
you
and
everyone
that
we're
really
asking
people
to
focus
on
your
role
in
the
demonstrations
this
summer
and
and
you're
experiencing
those
days.
I
I
appreciate
the
history
and
I
know
it
is
okay.
E
E
Okay
and
now,
last
year,
before
george
floyd,
I
saw
a
park
policeman
berate
two
african-american
families
sitting
at
picnic
benches
at
the
rose
garden
now
a
month
later,
is
when
george
floyd
happened,
but
I
saw
racism
hate
and
these
peop.
The
people
who
were
sitting
at
those
benches
were
not
harming
anybody
and
that
this
police
officer
was
waving
his
his
aluminum
frame
ticket
book
between
the
eyes
of
everybody
acting
like
derek
siobhan.
E
Now
this
particular
gentleman
arrested
me
that
day
before
all
that
happened-
and
let
me
go
because
he
didn't
have
a
car
to
pick
me
up,
which
was
a
lie:
okay,
so
what
I'm
getting
at
is
the
lies
that
are
told
by
san
jose
pd,
the
hate,
the
racism
and
everything
else.
Now
he
didn't
bother
me
at
the
picnic
bench
because
he
had
already
cited
and
arrested
me
okay
for
drinking
in
public,
which
I
did
not
do.
E
He
thought
the
can
of
beer
next
to
me
was
mine,
so
I'm
just
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
here
is.
This
is
the
mentality
of
san
jose
pd,
it's
racism,
it's
hate
and
it's
they.
They
just
follow
whatever
the
people
tell
them
to
do,
they
have
they
have
no
critical
thinking,
skills
they're
violent.
They
like
to
threaten
you
with
fines
with
jail.
That
is
who
is
who
works
for
that
department?
E
C
B
C
E
C
D
D
F
Thank
you.
My
name
is
ernini.
I
am
on
staff
at
the
river
church
community
in
san
jose.
I
serve
as
the
director
of
compassion
and
justice
ministries
there
I
wanted
to
share,
particularly
about
a
march
that
I
organized
in
the
last
sunday
of
may.
It
was
sort
of
a
george
floyd
solidarity
march.
It
was
largely
attended
by
a
few
hundred
people
from
my
congregation
and
it
was
a
peaceful
march.
F
George
floyd
was
held
for
at
the
time
we
understood
8
minutes
and
46
seconds
and
sort
of
as
a
symbolic
distance
of
time.
With
our
religious
organization,
we
marched
around
city
hall
eight
times,
so
it
took
us
over
an
hour
to
do
so.
Each
time
we
would
pass
the
police
who
are
stationed
outside
of
city
hall,
and
my
experience
during
that
was
was
really
positive
until
the
very
end
of
the
time.
So
our
group
was
marching
peacefully.
We
had
done
our
eight
rounds.
F
Where
some
of
the
older
members
of
my
congregation
it
seemed
like
they
might
be
having
heart
attacks
at
the
chaos
that
was
happening,
the
families
had
to
run
home
with
their
kids
some
toddlers
who
they
had
been
carrying
on
their
sort
of
on
their
backs,
lifting
them
higher.
They
had
to
run
away
and
get
home
as
soon
as
possible.
F
Instead
of
you
know,
just
recharging.
From
that
experience,
I
spent
hours
afterwards
just
contacting
all
of
the
families
that
I
saw
trying
to
make
sure
they
had
gotten
home
okay
without
being
injured.
I
personally
escorted
some
of
the
older
members
of
our
congregation
home
and
to
their
cars
because
they
didn't
feel
safe
going
and
all
of
this
is
recorded.
F
It
felt
extremely
traumatic
and
hurtful
really
painful
for
our
entire
congregation.
I
mean
that
that
is
like
one
thing.
I
will
also
explain
just
another
level
of
distrust
that
I
felt
like
the
police
caused
san
jose
pd
submitted
a
after
action
report
where
they
listed
in
the
report,
all
of
their
instances
of
firing,
projectiles
and
that
incident
that
firing
of
projectiles
was
not
listed
in
the
report,
and
so
we
already
had
a
situation
of
trust
being
broken
with
our
sjpd
and
that
omission
really
critical.
F
Dramatic
omission
further
disrupted
trust
among
my
community,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
represent
these
experiences.
I
organized
this.
This
protest
I
organized
this
march.
I
feel
very
much
responsible
for
the
trump
the
trauma
that
members
of
my
congregation
have
experienced
and
resulted
in
the
police
action,
and
I
also
feel
some
amount
of
accountability
at
trying
to
rebuild
trust
with
our
sjpd
and
my
community
and
feel
like
transparency.
F
C
C
So,
let's
take
a
moment
to
do
a
poll.
This
is
we're
trying
to
have
different
ways
to
to
give
voice
and
hear
from
people.
So
we
will
have
a
poll
now
and
this
poll
is
really
a
question.
That's
pretty
simple!
Why
did
you
join
us
tonight?
You
could
be
doing
all
sorts
of
other
things.
So
if
you
are
on
zoom,
you
can
go
to
the
polling
function
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
C
C
D
C
And
just
to
add
to
that
again,
if
you
are
on
the
phone,
you
can't
participate
in
the
the
polling
or
the
q
a,
but
we
do
want
to
hear
your
voices
so
again
when
you
can
raise
your
hand
to
speak
by
pressing
star
nine.
You
can
then
unmute
yourself
by
pressing
star
six,
because
we
do
want
to
hear
people's
voices.
C
C
C
So
it
seems
by
far
at
least
half
the
people
are
here,
because
they
want
to
hear
what
others
think
about
the
event.
So
again,
the
importance
of
of
listening
and
sharing
is
just
emphasized
there
I
see
no
one
had
no
one
said
they
came
to
speak
in
support
of
police
actions.
It's
not
particularly
surprising,
but
sometimes
people
do
so.
Thank
you
for
sharing
your
ideas,
your
thoughts
about
why
you're
here
that
helps
us
again
is
the
work
continues.
C
G
Are
sorry
the
day
of
the
the
main
demonstration
in
downtown
san
jose?
I
happened
to
get
off
the
freeway
and
not
knowing
the
demonstration
was
going
to
happen
or
was
already
in
progress
driving
down
santa
clara
street.
So
I
came
from
the
outside
of
town.
The
demonstration
had
started
at
the
far
end
of
the
town
off
101
and
was
moving
towards
downtown.
I
was
coming
from
the
opposite
direction
into
downtown
and
what
I
noticed
was
pretty
quickly
prior
even
to
getting
to
city
hall.
G
You
already
had
large
groups
of
people
that
were
defacing
buildings,
a
fair
amount
of
vandalism
on
storefronts,
some
banks,
people
trying
to
do
wheelies
on
or
roundabouts
with
their
their
cars
on
the
street.
People
that
were
just
kind
of
lost
people
were
approaching
cars
and
harassing
people
in
the
cars
that
didn't
know
what
was
going
on.
By
the
time
I
got
to
city
hall.
I
had
not
seen
any
physical
altercations
at
all.
I
did
notice.
G
I
was
on
my
side
telling
them
hey,
avoid
downtown,
take
another
route
home
because
it
was
about
roughly
four
or
five
o'clock.
I
passed
city
hall.
There
was
a
police
line.
They
had
streets
blocked
off.
I
just
kept
on
going
and
I
I
got
home
when
I
got
home.
I
immediately
turned
on
the
tv
and
I
watched
it
was
abc
was
the
channel
I
watched
for
the
next
four
hours,
so
there
was
no
altercation.
There
was
no
violence
from
where
I
was
from
the
outside
of
town.
G
To
when
I
got
home
I
would
have
turned
off
on
10th
street.
I
got
on
that
store.
There
was
a
lot
of
candy
within
a
half
an
hour.
People
were
like.
Oh,
the
police
are
firing
bullets.
I
did
not
see
that
I
did
see
a
lot
of
taunting
of
police
as
I
drove
through.
I
did
see
a
lot
of
people
coming
right
up
to
the
police,
face-to-face
I'm
baiting
them.
Basically,
I
then
saw
a
video
later
on
that
evening.
People
from
the
neighborhood
that
came
down
because
there
was
a
demonstration
looky-loos.
G
I
guess
I
would
say,
or
probably
expressing
their
rights
their
first
amendment
rights.
Depending
on
your
viewpoint.
They
would
get
right
in
the
face
of
officers
of
a
police
line
on
their
bikes
taunting
them.
They
were
asked
to
move
back.
They
were
told
to
move
back,
they
didn't
move
back,
the
crowd
got
rowdy.
The
people
fell,
they're
now
filing
a
police
lawsuit
right
for
being
police
violence.
I
guess
is
what
they're
calling
it
I
got
home.
I
watched
the
video
and
then
it
was
a
blow-by-blow
account.
G
If
I'm
hoping
somebody
has
taken
a
look
at
that
later
on
that
week,
there
were
a
lot
of
local
neighborhoods
that
got
together
having
their
own
little
protests.
I
got
involved
again
another
night
coming
home
from
work
with
a
group
of
people
on
bicycles.
I
was
two
blocks
from
my
house.
I
was
at
a
stop
sign.
G
This
group
of
people
come
in
with
me,
so-and-so's
lives
matter
and
it's
like
they
weren't,
even
saying
what
color,
what
people,
whatever
it
was
like
lives
matter,
white
lives
matter
black
lives
matter,
whatever
they
were
in
my
face.
They
were
on
my
car.
They
were
harassing
me
and
I
tried
to
move
forward
and
then
I
opened
my
window
and
I
told
it
I
will
run
you
down,
don't
think
I
won't,
then
they
got
out
their
cameras
and
had
that
in
my
face
and
then
they
run
a
lot.
So
the
leader
was
on
a
loud
speaker.
G
She
doesn't
care
and
blah
blah
blah.
We
got
to
get
her
and
I
said
sarah,
you
want
a
camera
here.
It
works
both
ways.
Oh
well,
this
isn't
working.
We
need
to
move
on,
so
they
did.
I
called
9-1-1
and
reported
it.
They
knew
about
it.
What
happened
after
that?
I
don't
know,
so
I
guess
in
my
opinion,
what
I
would
say
is
I
don't
know
that
you
know
rubber
bullets
wouldn't
be
necessarily
the
right
way
to
go,
but
I
did
see
a
lot
of
hostility
from
the
citizens.
G
Granted
the
emotions
were
high
every
time.
There's
a
group
or
a
crowd,
it
seems,
like
emotions,
run
high
and
hot,
and
somebody
gets
out
of
control
and
it
just
kind
of
like
it.
It
becomes
its
own
entity
and
feeds
on
itself.
I've
lived
in
san
jose
for
close
to
30
years,
so
this
isn't
the
first
one.
We've
had
festivities
that
have
turned
into
the
same
sort
of
situation.
G
C
So
and
teresa
do
we
have
anyone
else
ready
to
speak
and
if
not,
let
me
remind
people
that
you
can
raise
your
hand
with
the
raised
hand
function.
You
can
raise
your
hand
if
you're
on
the
phone
with
star9,
so
we
really
do
want
to
hear
from
other
voices
there.
I
know
there
are
more
people
here.
So
if
you
feel
comfortable
speaking,
we
really
do
want
to
hear
from
you.
That's
why
I've
come
all
the
way
from
the
east.
C
C
C
C
C
C
Okay,
so
that's
been
just
about
a
minute:
we've
got
a
number
of
responses,
so
let's
close
that
poll
and
share
the
responses
with
everybody
so
about
a
third
of
you
who
are
here
who
answered
were
not
directly
involved
in
demonstrations,
but
other
people
had
a
variety
of
roles.
So
we
we've
heard
from
someone
who
was
organizing
a
protest.
We've
heard
from
someone
who
was
driving
off
the
freeway
and
ended
up
in
the
middle
of
a
protest
and
observed
it.
C
B
C
As
we
all
know,
and
quite
a
period
with
events
around
the
country,
george
floyd,
a
pandemic
and
responses
have
varied,
and
you
heard
from
mike
at
the
beginning
of
this
that
there
are
a
number
of
cities
just
in
california,
that
the
oir
group
has
been
looking
at
to
examine
what
happened
and
in
cities
from
columbus,
ohio
to
austin
texas
to
miami
florida
to
boston
massachusetts.
Right
by
me.
C
But
the
way
that
that
can
change
is
by
people
sharing
those
experiences,
in
addition
to
the
research
to
the
looking
at
policies
to
reviewing
videos
and
that's
why
your
voices
are
so
important.
They're
important
in
cities
all
across
the
country
and
more
and
more
people
are
stepping
up
and
coming
forward
to
share
their
stories
because
they
realize
that
without
those
stories,
it's
hard
for
many
people
to
understand
the
need
for
change,
and
some
people
have
understood
the
need
for
change.
For
decades.
C
So
again,
that's
why
we're
here
tonight
and
that's
why
I'm
I'm
here
so
I'm
going
to
encourage
people
to
raise
those
hands.
I
know
it's,
it's
not
always
easy,
and
but
it
matters
it
really
matters.
So
I'm
gonna.
I
will
say
this
was
not
part
of
the
introduction,
but
I'm
a
quaker.
So
for
those
of
you
know,
I'm
I'm
fine
with
quiet.
So
I
can
give
you
a
half
a
minute
to
say
something.
C
D
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Blair
beekman
is
my
name.
I've
been
trying
to
learn
how
to
participate
in
city
and
community
life.
I
guess
in
san
jose.
For
the
past
few
years
now
I've
been
trying
to
there's
a
whole
new
system,
developing
of
open,
accountable
practices
with
technology
that
really
addresses
the
ideas
of
reimagine
and
equity.
Really
well,
I
mean
it's
part,
there's
been
a
whole
series
of
things
that
have
been
developing
and
that
this
has
been
a
part
of
so
I
I
was
not
actually
much
participating
in
the
protests.
A
I
thought
it
would
be
safer
that
I
kept
my
distance
and
you
know
I've
tried
my
most
to
learn
how
you
know
my
own
knowledge
about
abolish
issues
and
and
reimagine
has
grown
with
time,
and
it's
a
learning
process
for
myself.
You
know
I
I
really
I
try
to
be
like
kind
of
the
know.
Nothing
go
between.
You
know
trying
to
learn
how
to
better,
understand
and
describe
these
things,
and
you
know
so.
A
I'm
learning
how
to
you
know
the
ideas
of
reimagine
are
basically
to
address
the
future
of
our
military
industrial
prison
technology.
Complex
I
mean
we.
We
actually
can
do
that
now
and
we
can
actually
work
towards
ideas
of
peace.
I
mean
real
peace
and
real
democracy.
I
mean
democracy
where
it
is
an
equal
playing
field
for
both
community
and
its
local
government.
A
You
know
it's
learning
how
to
have
just
a
more
honest
dialogue
and
realistic
dialogue
about
how
we
interact
and
work
together.
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
work
towards
and
and
george
floyd
things
just
really
brought
out,
but
that's
what
you
know
we
already
are
trying
to
do
and
that's
what
we
just
need
to
really
focus
on
and
really
want
to
do
now,
and
I
hope
I
hope
you
know
we
can
be
doing
that.
So
thanks
for
your
time
and
letting
me
speak.
C
C
C
C
H
Absolutely
this
is
a
little
different
for
me.
I
am
a
reporter.
So
usually
I
am
the
one
listening,
but
I
feel
that
if
this
is
an
information
gathering
session,
I
have
information,
so
I
might
as
well
just
recall
I'm
kind
of
going
through
some
of
my
photos.
Right
now.
I
moved
from
minneapolis
for
context
to
san
jose,
not
far
after
not
long
after
or
six
months
before
this
all
started.
H
So
I
kind
of
had
a
little
bit
of
more
insight
into
what
friends
and
family
were
bringing
and
preparing
for
when
they
went
down
there.
So
I
do
think
I
was
maybe
a
little
more
aware
of
what
could
go
down.
I
had
a
some
goggles
and
some
different
masks
of
those
sorts,
so
I
mean
this
is
from
my
perspective.
Just
on
the
outside.
You
know
it
was
a
smaller
group.
When
things
started,
you
know
we
went
all
down
to
the
highway.
People
were
walking,
it
was
about
maybe
a
couple
of
miles.
H
I
think,
as
we
were
all
walking
down-
and
I
don't
think
this
any
of
this
information
isn't
new
by
any
means
with
some
of
the
information
that's
been
recorded,
but
as
we're
all
walking
back
on
santa
clara
from
101,
I
was
taking
notes
for
a
story.
I
was
writing
that
day.
So
you
know
now
towards
the
back
of
the
group,
and
it
was
just
a
lot
of
confusion
into
where
we
were
all
going.
H
But
then
one
thing
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting
was
just
the
shape
and
design
of
how
the
officers
were
kind
of
moving
around
this,
the
group.
So
you
know
when
we
were
at
the
highway,
they
might
have
been
staying
on
the
on-ramp
and
just
watching,
and
then
it
kind
of
really
hands
off
for
the
most
part,
and
so
by
the
time
we're
moving
around
and
going
back
to
where
the
the
group
started.
It
was
interesting
to
see
the
lines
of
police
vehicles
that
were
going
lights
fully
on.
H
You
know
kind
of
one
arm
hanging
off
of
the
vehicles
and
it
almost
looked
a
little
bit
like
posturing
and
that's
what
I'm
I'm
not
one
to
normally
make
those
kinds
of
assumptions,
but
just
what
was
happening
and
what
was
going
past
us.
It
was
really
interesting
just
seeing
the
the
optics
of
what
was
happening,
and
so
that's
kind
of
when
some
of
the
confusion
really
started.
I
was
towards
the
back
of
the
group
that
was
heading
back
towards
city
hall
and
I
mean
around
5
p.m.
H
That
day,
that's
when
you
just
started
hearing
these
shots,
getting
fired,
and
obviously
we've
seen
the
video
of
people.
You
know
getting
close
to
law
enforcement
and
all
of
that,
but
it
was
just
a
lot
of
corralling
one
way,
corralling
in
another
way,
moving
around
just
so
much
miscommunication
between
officers.
If
you
tried
to
ask
well,
where
can
I
go,
especially
as
press?
You
know
I
was
trying
to
see.
Well,
can
I
go
around
here?
Can
I
go
around
this
street?
H
I
need
to
go,
take
photos
over
there
or,
if
I'm
just
up
on
top
of
some
city
hall
stairs
you
know
trying
to
stay
on
the
outside.
I
seem
to
always
be
getting
in
the
way,
so
I
can
only
imagine
where
anywhere
anyone
was
seemed
to
be
incorrect
just
with
what
would
kept
going
down
through
the
night,
and
so
as
people
were
getting
corralled
in
different
places.
It
was
a
lot
of
movement
and
I
think
that's
something
to
I'm
starting
to
ramble
a
little
bit.
H
Great,
so
I
guess
what
also
was
interesting
is
day.
Two
people
had
started
to
kind
of
gather
in
a
small
corner,
not
next
to
city
hall.
It
was
a
couple
blocks
down,
I
think,
towards
the
library,
and
it
was
just
always
interesting
to
note
that,
no
matter
how
small
a
group
of
people
were
were
who
were
gathering
there
were
all
there
were
law
enforcement
there
kind
of
watching.
So
it
was
always
this
seeming
relationship
between
here
we
are
here's
a
protesting
group
law
enforcement.
Is
there
watching?
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
over
here.
H
Law
enforcement.
Is
there
watching
there,
so
it
was
a
mix
of
following
and
communication
to
try
and
obviously
understand
and
observe
what
was
happening,
but
then
it
was
just
kind
of
kept.
No
information
was
really
no
one
really
had
information.
You
know
I
was
the
woman
spoke
earlier
about.
You
know
we
had
to
get
out
of
the
way
if
people
were
walking
through.
I
was
on
a
sidewalk,
my
back
to
a
building.
H
I
had
nowhere
else
to
go
and
I
didn't
want
to
move
off
the
sidewalk,
so
it
just
seemed
that
there
was
no
good
answer.
Nowhere
to
be
nowhere
to
be
correctly-
and
I
think
that
that
kind
of
was
a
large
theme
overall,
and
that
might
be
just
the
end
of
my
contribution
to
this
when
it
comes
to
feelings
and
impact.
But
you
know
I
think
it's
I
will
say
from
my
perspective,
these
kinds
of
experiences.
H
Personally,
you
know
you
can
feel
your
heart
rate
increasing
you
can
feel
your
blood
start
racing
and
even
if
you're
trying
to
come
at
this
from
an
angle
of
just
what
is
physically
happening,
it's
hard
to
then
make
sure
that
you're
doing
things
correctly.
When
you
don't
even
know
the
rules
at
hand,
let
alone
when
you
do
so,
that's
just
all
I
really
have
to
share,
but
it
was
just
really
it
was.
H
It
was
wonderful,
seeing
san
jose
kind
of
come
together,
especially
as
someone
who
was
newer
to
the
area
and
just
seeing
how
many
people
were
there,
but
then
also
just
noticing
that
the
same
problem
here
was
the
same
problem
everywhere.
So
I
guess
that's
all.
I
have
to
add
appreciate
you
all
listening.
C
Thank
you
for
sharing.
I
really
appreciate
that
and
then
I
know
it's
not
easy
to
share
and
you
know
you're
talking
about
being
a
reporter.
So
it's
it's
unusual,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
perspective
and
again,
as
you
know,
I'm
sure
this
has
been
happening
all
across
the
country.
So
it's
an
important
addition
to
the
story.
D
D
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
briefly.
I
didn't
know
anything
about
the
oncoming
demonstration
I
was
awoken.
I
lived
down
near
santa
clara
in
101,
so
I
was
awoken
by
all
the
helicopters
flying
around.
As
people
went
down
onto
the
freeway,
I
went
out
to
take
a
look
at
what
was
going
on
and
it
seemed
to
me
at
that
point
as
the
women
described
earlier,
who
had
been
participating
in
the
demonstration
at
that
point.
The
police
were
very
restrained
and
I
was
actually
quite
impressed
by
you
know
the
discipline
and
organization.
I
I
First,
amendment
plus
here
they
were
making
their
point
very
clearly
and
disrupting,
and
things
seem
to
be
going
quite
well.
It
was
only
later
in
the
day,
and
that
was
you
know
through
watching
news
media
that
I
could
follow
that
that
I
was
you
know,
surprised
and
dismayed
to
start
to
hear
about.
You
know
the
police
actions
that
people.
I
I
That
didn't
happen
anyway.
I
thought
I'd
just
add
that
perspective
that
initially
it
seemed
like
the
san
jose.
Pdu
was
behaving
quite
well
and
it
was
as
the
day
wore
on
that
it
seems,
like
things
deteriorated,
and
I
have.
I
have
heard
that
you
know
there
was
a
staffing
issue,
so
some
of
these
officers
were
on
the
line
too
long
and
people
on
the
street
you
know
were
unhappy
and
expressing
clearly
the
dismay
and
some
of
these
officers
may
have
been
put
up
with
more
than
they
could
take.
C
C
So
I
know
we
have
one
more
poll
question
that
we'd
like
to
ask
people
who
are
participating
here
to
answer,
so
we
can
get
a
little
bit
more
information
in
that
way
and
we'll
see
if
we
have
any
more
people
who
wish
to
speak.
But
let's
put
up
that
poll
question
number
four.
So
this
question
is
what
aspect
of
the
summer
demonstrations
was
most
concerning
to
you
what
aspect
of
the
summer
demonstrations
was
most
concerning
to
you,
so
the
voting
is
open
for
people
who
are
here
on
the
zoom
platform.
C
C
C
Some
have
said
they
have
different
concerns
and
that's
showing
up
in
the
polling,
so
the
votes
are
still
coming
in
we're
going
to
leave
the
poll
open
for
just
a
little
bit
longer.
So
if
you
haven't
voted
and
maybe
you're
trying
to
choose
which
of
these
to
pick,
but
we
do
want
to
hear
from
you
in
this
way,
as
well
as
hearing
your
actual
voices.
C
C
D
E
Hi
I
was
on
earlier
and
I
was
unable
to
vote
for
everything,
but
I
I
realized
I'm
cheating
a
little
bit
here.
I
just
wanted
to
really
thank
everybody
today,
because
usually
things
with
the
city
are
very
hostile:
the
city,
the
mayor,
the
city
council,
it's
a
very
smug,
arrogant
attitude
of
the
city
and
the
police
officers.
E
E
They
want
to
threaten
you,
and
I
mean
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
friends
and
I
think
they're,
seeing
that
now
they
need
to
know
that
that
but
handing
out
citations
and
acting
smug
and
arrogant
and
violent
it's
not
working,
it's
not
working
for
them,
and
then
you
have
something
like
this
and
then
they
always
say.
Oh
it's
a
staffing
issue.
It's
a
training
issue.
E
Do
you
know
how
much
the
police
officers
make
in
this
town?
Hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
sometimes
like
a
sergeant,
makes
300
grand
a
year
and
they're
telling
you
there's
a
staffing
or
training
issue
these
guys.
These
guys
should
be
more
than
well
trained
for
what
they're
paid
I
mean
the
deputy
chief
kendall
makes
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
I'm
sorry
I
lied
593
000,
he
doesn't
know
how
to
train
people
he's
not
trained.
E
I
mean
these
are.
These
are
high-tech
salaries
that
these
people
have
and
they
need
to
manage
this
department.
Better
they're
they're,
not
I
mean
they'll,
take
an
hour
to
come
out
for
a
call
of
a
homeless
person
sleeping
in
someone's
car
and
then
just
give
you
a
bad
attitude
for
it.
So
you
think
people
are
going
to
care
about
them
when
someone
throws
a
brick
at
their
head.
C
J
J
J
Absolutely
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
this
creating
space.
For
this.
I
appreciate
it.
I
headed
to
the
protest
on
at
five.
I
got
there
about
five
pm
and
when
I
first
arrived,
I
was
just
excited
to
see
the
turnout
which
we
don't
get.
I
I
tend
to
participate
a
lot
of
protests
and
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
turnout
for
a
lot
of
reasons
in
in
in
silicon
valley.
So
but
that
day
was
different.
J
It
was
a
rainbow
of
people,
it
was
you
know,
different
age
groups,
and
it
was
really
encouraging.
So
I
was
thrilled
initially
to
to
be
there
and,
as
I
got
closer,
however,
we
were
faced
with
a
very
militarized
law
enforcement
who
was
on
the
attack
and
for
me
who
I'm
originally
from
ethiopia
and
lived
through
war
in
my
native
country
as
a
child,
and
it
was
very
triggering
for
me.
J
I
had
difficulty
sleeping
for
a
long
time
after
that
incident
and
I
also
volunteer
with
the
beloved
community
team,
a
pact,
and
I
and
my
partners
have
worked
closely
with
law
enforcement,
specifically
san
jose
pd.
I'm
one
of
the
instructors
have
been
one
of
the
instructors
for
teaching
procedural
justice
and
implicit
bias,
trainings
to
law
enforcement,
and
so
we
know
what
all
that
entails
and
and
knowing
that
every
single
officer
has
gone
through
that
training
and
and
then
reacted
this
way
and
the
attack
of
the
community
was.
J
It
was
very
distressing
and
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
I
didn't
go
the
following
day,
but
I
did
go
a
few
days
later
and
were
always
surrounded
by
law
enforcement
and
in
addition
to
the
helicopters
there
was
also
drones
over
our
heads.
It
was
it
was.
It
was
a
war
zone,
that's
the
one,
that's
the
only
way
I
could
describe
it.
C
C
K
K
Are
okay?
We
can
hear
you
now
again.
So,
okay,
great
great,
thank
you!
Everyone,
scott
largent.
I
I
attended
almost
every
day
of
the
civil
unrest
and
evening
in
downtown
san
jose.
I'm
a
homeless
advocate
locally
here
in
the
area,
and
I
had
basically
when
everything
started
popping
off.
I
was
getting
a
covet
test
at
the
santa
clara
extension
of
valley
medical.
K
We
had
pulled
out
in
my
camper
van.
I
was
with
robert
aguirre,
another
well-known
activist
here
in
the
bay
area,
and
we
were
driving
down
santa
clara
street
and
we
saw
the
groups
of
protesters
coming
up
the
street
and
it
was
really
neat
to
see
all
the
different
people
that
we
knew
in
the
community,
and
you
know
everybody.
K
It
just
looked
like
a
positive,
gig.
Okay,
it
was
just
really
neat
to
see
everybody.
I
mean
people
weren't,
damaging
property,
they
weren't.
It
was
a
peaceful
dig
and
we
we
made
it
down
towards
the
freeway.
I
didn't
go
out
onto
the
freeway,
I
kind
of
stopped
pretty
much
at
roosevelt
there
it
it
went
really
well
and
then
what
I
ended
up
doing
is.
K
I
went
down
towards
city
hall
and
that's
when
both
of
the
the
group
from
101
kind
of
met
up
with
the
the
the
other
folks
that
were
down
at
city
hall
and
that's
when
the
the
rubber
bullet
hand
cannon
started
coming
out
and
it
was.
It
was
really
hard
to
see
all
this.
A
lot
of
san
jose
state
students
were
out
there.
It
was
kind
of
their
first
time
ever
going
out
to
a
protest.
K
B
K
It's
going
to
be
their
last
time
ever
going
to
a
protest.
I
I
just
watched
a
police
department,
use
people
as
target
practice
and
it
was,
I
got
shot
several
times
I
mean
you
know
it
wasn't
like.
I
was
shot
with
a
regular.
You
know
gun
or
anything,
but
I
was
very
disappointed
in
the
leadership
out
there
with
our
police
department.
K
Basically
after
they
had
shot
people
and-
and
you
know,
used
all
the
tear
gas-
and
you
know,
after
all,
that
it
kind
of
slowed
down
the
sheriff's
department
stepped
in
and
pretty
much
saved
the
day.
I
think
they
had
the
proper
training.
Their
de-escalation
was
pretty
impressive.
They
held
the
line
and
most
of
all,.
K
Sit
there
and
and
use
this
just
violent
communication,
the
the
pd
was
literally
sitting
there.
Talking
chat
to
people
non-stop,
trying
to
get
them
riled
up,
trying
to
get
them
upset,
saying
horrible
things
to
people
and
and
and
the
sheriff's
department
didn't
do
this,
and
it
just
shows
it's
like
night
and
day
as
far
as
the
training
there
now
I
know
the
sheriff's
department
ended
up.
There
was
somebody
that
I
don't
know
what
the
situation
was
tried
to
run
over
protesters
and
they
ended
up
shooting
somebody.
K
K
What
was
also
disturbing
is
the
motorcycle
cops
chasing
san,
jose
state
students
up
and
down
the
streets
like
dogs,
there
was
no
curfew
in
place.
These
young
men
and
women
were
literally
chased
down
onto
the
ground.
They
were
shooting
them
with
the
rubber
bullets.
They
were
sticking
these
you
know
hand
cannons
literally
almost
the
side
of
their
heads.
It
was
completely
unnecessary
and
I
don't
think
it's
ever
gonna
change
and
I
understand
the
other
community
meetings
they
had
fell
apart
already,
I
spent
years
dealing
with
the
police
department
with
chief
garcia.
K
K
There
was
something
else
that
happened
after
that
initial
protesting,
and
there
was
there
was
community
members
that
got
out
there
and
there
were
members
from
the
church
and
they
were
all
out
there
at
city
hall,
and
this
just
shows
you
the
disconnect
when
they
did
that,
and
they
were
out
there
to
defuse
everything
play
music.
You
know
just
kind
of
bring
the
community
together
when
that
was
going
on.
K
Pastors
priests,
you
know
community
leaders,
it
was
the
most
mellow
environment,
yet
the
pd
is
setting
up
for
battle
again,
there's
no
connection
between
the
community
and
our
police
department
and
I've
gotten
to
know
a
lot
of
the
good
men
and
women
that
actually
work
there,
but
the
upper
brass
is
out
of
touch.
So
I
appreciate
being
able
to
talk,
I'm
just
disappointed
and
I
really
honestly
don't
think
anything's
going
to
change.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you
for
sharing
your
experience,
scott
and
the
experience
of
the
community
that
you
work
with
as
well
and
obviously
part
of
what
we
do
is
we
work
to
make
change,
so
I
I
hope
that
change
does
happen
for
san
jose
and
we're
going
to
do
what
we
can,
but
I
I
hear
your
skepticism
and
understand
it.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that.
C
So
I'm
looking
at
the
time
and
I'm
just
I'm
gonna
check
in
with
our
team
and
see
if
we
have
anyone
else
who
would
who's
looking
to
speak
as
we
come
closer
to
the
end
of
our
session,
and
that
looks
like
there's,
no
one.
So
just
a
reminder:
if
you're
on
the
phone,
you
can
raise
your
hand
by
doing
a
star
nine
and
then
you
can
unmute
with
star
six.
E
Hi,
it's
me
again
and
since
no
one
else
wanted
to
talk,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
guys
again,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
woman
who
let
me
on
the
computer
again,
because
the
city
of
san
jose
doesn't
do
that.
If
you
have
outdated
software,
they
keep
people
from
not
speaking,
and
they
only
limit
you
to
two
minutes
and
they
usually
cut
you
off
before
the
two
minutes.
But
you
guys
don't
do
that.
Maybe
you
guys
should
run
the
city
council
meetings
because
they
don't
know
how
they
will
not.
I
haven't
updated.
E
I
had
I
had
the
software
updated
on
my
computer,
but
they
won't
help
you
at
all.
They
also
put
the
wrong
user
id
or
you
know
id
numbers
sometimes
to
keep
people
from
from
speaking,
and
I
know
that
we're
supposed
to
focus
on
what
happened
on
that
day,
but
I'm
focusing
on
things
that
create
the
build
up
for
that
day
and
not
being
able
to
speak
at
city
council
meetings
or
being
cut
off
is
bad.
E
I've
been
walked
out
of
a
community
meeting
at
a
public
library
by
san
jose
pd
because
they
didn't.
Like
my
question.
I
just
asked
a
question
to
a
to
a
police
captain
and
she
called
two
police
officers
and
they
threw
me
out
of
the
meeting
they
let
me
back
in
because
they
didn't
have
any
charges.
What
I'm
getting
at
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
that
san
jose
pd
does
to
make
people
not
like
them.
E
E
It's
you
know
the
the
citations,
the
stacking
charges
on
people,
they
do
these
things
and
then
they
wonder
why
they're
not
popular
and
then
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
they
need
to
buy
toys
for
kids
at
target
to
make
them
look
good.
That's
not
making
them
look
good
right!
It's
the
attitude!
It's
the
arrogance!
It's
the
same
with
city
council
they're
the
same
way
they
the
city,
this
this
city,
wants
to
send
people
out
with
code
enforcement
and
measure
a
flagpole
or
tell
someone
they
can't
have
a
shed
in
their
backyard.
E
I
think
there's
more
to
it
than
just
this
thing
with
george
floyd,
I
think
george,
the
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
is
when
people
said
I've
had
enough.
I've
had
enough
of
police
violence.
I've
had
enough
of
the
you
know,
trying
to
stitch
somebody
up
for
some
petty
crime.
You
know
george
floyd
died
over
a
counterfeit
20
bill.
Do
you
realize
the
secret
service
won't
even
come
out?
If
you've
got
thousands
of
dollars,
you
catch
someone
with
thousands
of
dollars
of
counterfeit
bills,
don't
even
come
out
for
that.
E
C
The
problem,
so
I'm
I'm
gonna,
be
that
nice
guy
cutting
you
off
again.
So
but
again,
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
you're
sharing
and
I
I
do.
I
think
we
all
understand
that
these
issues
are
broader
than
one
incident
and
also
part
of
our
task
tonight
is
to
to
really
listen
deeply
around
the
incidents
that
happen
during
the
protests.
So,
let's,
let's
see,
if
there's
anybody
else
who
would
like
to
share,
maybe
we'll
say
who
hasn't
yet
so
because
we
do
want
to
give
people
voice,
you
can
raise
your
hand
on
the
phone.
D
In
the
meantime,
I've
had
a
question
in
the
qa
about
future
listening
sessions.
We
are
currently
only
have
this
listening
session
scheduled
at
the
moment.
That
does
not
mean
that
we
will
not
have
sessions
in
the
future,
but
it
is
likely,
given
that
you
know
we
are
close
to
our
time
now
that
we
will
request
that
people
email
us
directly,
we'll
flash
that
email
again
and
we
may
set
up
future
events.
The
best
way
to
hear
about
these
would
be
on
the
cities
page.
D
B
B
So,
if
you
recall,
one
of
the
speakers
talked
about
the
after
action
report
that
the
police
department
put
together
and
that
the
event
that
she
had
been
describing
did
not
appear
to
er
in
that
report.
Well,
that
report
is
something
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
through
with
a
fine-toothed
comb
and
so
to
see
to
hear
that
there
may
have
been
an
event
that
was
missing
is
remarkable
and
something
that
we
will
clearly
want
to
follow.
B
The
other
piece
of
information
that
I
found
extremely
interesting
was
the
account
by
the
reporter
and,
as
you
know,
brian
we
don't
reporters
are
often
reporting
and
not
and
not
speaking,
their
truth
and
experience
in
these
forums.
We
really
appreciate
that
she
did,
but
we
already
know,
based
on
media
reports
and
other
other
information.
We've
already
received
that
on
one
of
the
protest
days,
a
reporter
was
in
fact
arrested
in
san
jose.
B
C
Thank
you
for
for
sharing
that
mike
and
that
that
analysis,
because
I
you're
absolutely
right-
and
you
know
to
the
extent
that
again,
anyone
who
hasn't
spoken
has
something
to
offer.
I
mean
there
are
other
ways
to
do
it
besides
speaking
ignite,
but
but
hopefully
even
mike's.
Brief
sharing,
helps
you
to
understand
that
as
people
coming
from
the
outside
who
look
at
these
issues,
it
is
so
important
to
hear
those
personal
stories,
and
you
just
you,
never
know
when
one
little
piece
opens
up
a
window
into
something
that
otherwise
was
hidden.
C
So
these
sorts
of
sessions
are
deeply
important
for
the
work,
as
I,
as
I
said
before,
it's
not
just
the
research
and
reviewing
the
videos.
It's
hearing
those
stories
from
people
who
lived
through
it
that
lived
experience
has
to
inform
the
work
to
identify
what
went
wrong
and
how
you
identify
what
needs
to
change
going
forward.
What
needs
to
be
put
in
place
to
create
the
kind
of
policing
the
kind
of
public
safety
that
your
community
needs
and
deserves.
C
C
A
Very,
very
nice
of
you,
thank
you
yeah.
I
just
simply
wanted
to
quickly
offer
what
I
typed.
How
do
we
want
to
talk
about
current
sj
police,
sjpd,
police,
chief
mata
for
the
future
of
one
of
these
meetings,
and
how
can
we
talk
publicly
about
tactics?
Sjpd
can
use
for
the
future
of
protests.
I
think
it
can.
There
can
be
public
involvement
because
boy
at
the
time
of
the
protests,
I
was
with
some
dsa
people
and
we
were
all
commenting
the
same
way
that
they
could
have
been.
A
There
was
a
hundred
choices
of
peaceful
tactics.
They
could
have
used
at
the
time
that
they
didn't
you
know
so
things
are
there
and
available.
I
hope
we
can
publicly
talk
about
those
sort
of
things
and
thank
you
very
much
to
scott
largent.
I
think
he
offered
a
really
interesting
good
story
about
how
and
perspective
how
to
view
the
the
situation.
Thank
you
for
the
meeting.
B
And
brian,
just
just
mr
beekman's
point,
he
asked
about
further
discussions
and
right
now
we
are
in
the
fat
collections
piece
of
our
project,
but
this
project's
intended
to
be
entirely
public
facing
so
before
we
signed
on.
We
understood
what
the
scope
of
work
was,
and
we
understood
that
we
would
be
able
to
have
conversations
with
city
leadership
when
we're
done
so
the
report
isn't
going
to
just
go
on
the
shelf.
D
K
K
K
No,
I
really
enjoyed
the
I'm,
not
sure
what
his
name
is.
The
gentleman
that
you
guys
have
been
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
with
that's
on
the
meeting
right
now.
I've
been
listening
to
him
at
city
council
meetings.
He
really
takes
it
to
the
mayor
there
and
he's
starting
to
get
a
fan
club.
I
mean,
because
I
really
enjoy
what
he
has
to
say
and
he's
knocking
it
out
of
the
park.
Our
our
city
is
extremely
difficult
to
deal
with.
K
They
always
take
public
comment,
knock
it
down
to
30
seconds
if
they
end
up
hitting
that
nuke
button
and
letting
you
talk
anyway,
the
mayor
tears
up
speaker
cards.
They
really
don't
want
to
hear
from
anybody
and
that's
what's
made
it
so
difficult
as
a
activist
in
the
community
and-
and
I
just
worry
that
they're
not
paying
attention
and.
B
K
I
went
to
these
meetings
for
a
long
time
at
city
council.
It
just
started
burning
me
out.
It
wasn't
getting
anything
done
and
same
with
meetings
with
the
police
department.
I've
sat
down
now,
probably
about
seven
different
times
with
chief
garcia,
and
he
basically
just
stabbed
me
in
the
back.
He
never
did
anything.
B
Scott
yeah,
we
we
have
been
engaged
to
do
this
and
and
holding
these
sessions,
is
part
of
our
part
of
our
scope
of
work.
If
you
will,
but
you
know,
a
good
part
of
it
will
also
be
digesting
the
material.
It's
great
to
hear
you
in
this
session,
and
we
didn't
rip
any
speaker
cards
up
this
evening
and
that's
not
that's
not
how
we
roll,
but
we
it's
also
just
so
you
know
scott.
B
C
Okay,
so
I
think
with
that,
I
am
going
to
pass
it
back
over
to
teresa
just
to
talk
about
how
again
how
people
can
reach
us-
and
I
just
really
before
I
I
would
go
off
the
mic
as
it
were.
I'm
I'm
really
grateful
because
again,
there's
lots
of
other
things.
People
could
do.
People
spoke
tonight
who
clearly
have
experienced
traumatic
interactions
around
what
happened
last
year
and
and
people
who
are
deeply
emotional,
and
yet
people
really
shared
from
the
heart
people
were
respectful
and
people
took
the
time
to
be
here
and
share.
D
I
echo
brian's
thanks
for
everyone
who
was
so
willing
to
not
only
participate
by
sharing
their
stories
verbally,
but
also
in
the
polls
and
also
just
giving
your
time
and
energy
to
be
here
and
to
listen.
As
we've
mentioned.
There
are
many
ways
to
contact
us.
The
most
direct
would
be
to
email
mike
directly.
His
email
address
is
there
on
the
screen.
Now
it
is
michael.janaco
oirgroup.com.
D
D
D
Do
please
reach
out
to
us
so
that
we
can
collect
as
much
evidence
as
much
information
from
the
people
who
were
there
on
the
ground
from
the
people
who
experienced
this.
We
want
to
make
sure,
as
mike
said
right
at
the
onset
that
we
are
as
unvarnished
as
we
possibly
can
be,
that
we
are
hearing
the
voices
that
are
often
not
heard
in
these
types
of
reviews.
B
Yeah-
and
I
will,
since
I
began
I'll
just
end
by
reiterating
all
that
has
been
said-
we
hope
that
this
is
the
beginning
of
an
interface
with
the
community
communities
of
san
jose
about
this
very
important
topic
to
the
degree
you're
willing
and
able
to
participate.
It
will
inform
what
we
find
and
what
we
conclude.