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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole, September 13, 2023
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All
right,
thank
you.
Play
Beekman
I
wanted
to
speak
to
items
3.3
about
brilliant
of
the
basics.
F
You
know
we
are
really
at
a
time
that
we're
in
a
new
Administration
it's
about
a
year
into
a
new
administration.
At
the
end
of
the
locarno
administration,
City
staff
was,
you
know,
full
head
esteemed
the
Civic
Innovation
Department
around
really
developing
ideas
of
the
future
of
Community
Technology
as
a
real,
more
open,
Community
process,
where
it's
a
dialogue,
an
open
dialogue
between
community
and
city
government
staff
and
Council
about
the
future
of
tech
in
their
local,
neighborhoods
and
I.
F
Think
that
conversation
is
kind
of
drifting
away
a
bit
to
kind
of
get
us
acclimated
to
a
new
Administration
and
stuff.
It's
really.
This
fall
it's
time
to
bring
that
good,
stuff
back
and
and
ask
City
staff
to
make
new
commitments
to
openness
and
accountability
and
want
to
really
engage
the
public
and
ask
them
questions
what
they
think
technology
should
be
in
their
Community.
It's
not
just
city
government
dictating
what
technology
is
going
to
be
placed
in
in
a
local
neighborhood.
It
is
working
it
out
with
the
community.
F
It
is
talking
with
the
community,
that's
the
future
of
accountability.
So
good
luck
in
really
working
on
that
mayor,
licardo
created
a
staff
to
do
exactly
that.
He
got
that
part
really
down.
Good,
really
try
to
work
on
that.
Please,
and-
and
it's
important
and
I'll-
be
talking
more
about
it
naturally,
so
it
can
be
more
comfortable
and
the
other
items
about
a
I
mean
IPA
reports,
Deputy
IPA
just
quit,
and
there
is
a
real
lack
of
accountability
and
transparency
going
on
with
the
police
again
you're.
C
All
right
is
there
a
motion
for
the
agenda
for
the
19th.
E
E
G
E
E
All
right,
so
the
retirement
boards
had
asked
that
this
item
be
moved
up
in
the
agenda,
but
if
we're
deferring
it
I
guess
that's
not
necessary.
G
G
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C
On
section
three,
we
have
open
audit
status
report,
Integrated
Waste
Management
enforcement
program
and
Citywide
Insurance
renewals,
nothing
in
sections,
four,
five
and
six
or
seven
section,
eight,
the
Consolidated
annual
performance
evaluation
report
and
then
we
have
land
use
consent.
C
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E
C
All
right
motion
carries
five
zero
consent,
calendars
approved
now.
That
brings
us
to
section
c
item
one
safe
parking
program
requirements:
councilmember
Jimenez.
Are
you
going
to
introduce
or
councilmember
you're
going
to
talk
about
this
one
yeah.
I
Providing
safe
parking
options
for
unhoused
residents
living
in
RVs
is
an
important
step
towards
addressing
homelessness
in
our
community.
However,
it
is
also
crucial
to
ensure
that
the
program
is
accessible
and
accommodating
to
those
who
need
it.
The
most
the
requirement
for
proof
of
DMV
registration
and
insurance
can
indeed
pose
significant
barriers
to
participation
for
unhoused
residents.
Many
of
these
individuals
may
not
have
the
financial
means
to
renew
their
registration
pay
for
insurance
or
perform
necessary
vehicle
repairs.
I
I
I
Additionally,
we
should
also
consider
assistance
from
two
contractors
to
help
individuals
with
operability
challenges,
move
their
vehicles
to
the
site,
a
compassionate
and
practical
solution,
revisiting
the
contract
with
life
moves
and
potentially
in
renegotiating
it
to
better
align
with
the
needs
of
the
unhoused
residents,
is
a
positive
step
forward.
These
changes
create
a
more
inclusive
and
flexible
approach
to
safe
parking
operation
agreements
will
likely
lead
to
the
better
outcomes
for
the
community
and
its
resident.
It's
important
to
prioritize
compassion,
accessibility
and
practicality
when
designing
and
implementing
programs
to
address
this
homelessness
problem.
C
J
Hi,
this
will
be
the
shortest
speech
I'm
ever
going
to
give
to
the
city
council,
but
I
concur
with
Arjun
batra
a
hundred
percent.
We
need
to
make
getting
into
safe
parking,
safe,
living,
safe
cabins
with
low
barriers
I.
Frankly,
don't
understand
why
an
RV
that
is
used
for
housing
has
to
have
DMV
moving
registration
if
it's
not
going
to
be
moving
on
our
street,
so
get
them
towed.
Get
her
done
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
support,
Mayhem,
Jimenez
and
batra.
K
It's
very
important
that
also
that
in
this
part
of
this
process,
that
will
help
them
establish
that
place
as
a
place
to
receive
mail
so
that
they
can
also
be
prepared
to
vote
when
it's
time
to
vote
so
they're
not
disenfranchised,
so
they
need
a
place
and
I'm
thankful
and
hopeful
that
you'll
continue
to
open
up
your
doors
and
make
space
for
our
least
fortunate
in
our
community.
Thank
you,
I'm,
president
of
the
San
Jose
Silicon
Valley
NAACP.
Thank
you.
L
Stick
in
the
next
one,
but
I
do
appreciate
this
I
think
that's
a
long
time
coming.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
that
haven't
been
able
to
be
in
there
and
the
poor
people
at
Columbus
are
just
languishing
away
and
I
do
want
to
bring
up
that.
There
are
people
who
are
interested
in
safe
parking
programs,
but
have
brought
up
that
they're
concerned,
because
if
their
immigration
status
and
I'm
not
saying
that
it
makes
sense.
L
But
you
know
when
people
have
something
that
they're
concerned
about,
then
everything
ties
into
that
and
so
they're
concerned
that
going
there
that
somehow
their
immigration
status
will
be
revealed
and
blah
blah
blah.
So
it's
just
something
to
consider
it's
something
that
I've
heard
from
a
couple
of
folks.
So
just
wanted
to
raise
that
thanks,
Gail.
M
Hello,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Just
number
one
I
want
to
thank
councilman
batra.
He
has
been
I've
been
I'm.
The
only
one
with
whoever
I've
been
involved
in
this
process,
I've
been
to
every
meeting
from
the
day
one
and
councilman
batra
has
been
there.
Also.
We
have
fought,
tires
Lee
to
get
this
open.
M
We
have
meetings
with
the
residents,
not
the
resident,
but
the
resident
is
the
D2
and
d10
and
everybody
seems
to
be
pretty
happy
except
our
biggest
fear,
and
what
we're
facing
is
not
the
RVs
that
are
going
into
because
they
don't
have
registration,
they
don't
have
they're
licensed,
they
don't
have
insurance
and
we
need
to
change
that.
So
life
moves
needs
to
change
that.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
when
they
go
there.
M
There
were
three
RVs
from
Columbus
that
went
in
not
two
that
was
reported
and
one
of
the
three
had
to
be
told
over.
So
we
also
need
to
have
Towing
folks
come
in
and
Tow
them.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
people
out
there
in
the
districts
d10,
especially
that
want
to
come
in,
but
they
don't
have
insurance
and
they
don't
have
registration.
It's
too
expensive
I'm
going
to
pass
out
a
card
council
member
Jimenez.
You
have
one
of
these
I'm
passing
these
out
to
all
the
RV
people.
M
M
I,
don't
think
from
the
Columbus
Park
Community
will
go
in
there
too
much
because
that's
a
family.
They
want
to
stay
they've
been
asked.
They
want
to
stay
as
a
group.
They
are
a
family,
I,
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen,
but
I'm
hoping
some
of
them
will
go
in
there.
But
please,
let's
change
this
and.
N
Good
afternoon
committee
members,
my
name
is
Chris
coppolilo.
N
My
role
is
managing
director
of
policy,
enrollment
advocacy
and
Community
engagement
at
KIPP
public
schools
in
Northern
California,
our
students,
parents
and
staff
recently
advocated
on
the
issue
of
school
buffer
zone
expansion
to
parallel
the
current
10
encampment
ordinance
with
with
RVs
and
lived
in
vehicles
and
I
want
to
ask
the
committee
to
agendize
this
item
as
well
for
Council
discussion
as
a
part
of
addressing
how
we
support
our
unhoused
neighbors,
including
if
folks
are
moving
to
a
safe
parking
site
or
elsewhere.
N
We
recognize
that
this
is
a
broad
issue
and
want
to
be
a
part
of
a
community
discussion.
That's
around
focused
Solutions
and
safety
and
compaction
for
everyone,
including
housed
in
on
house
residents,
so
appreciate
the
council
taking
these
items
and
and
others
up
today,
and
would
ask
for
you
to
agendaize
them
for
Council
discussion.
Thank
you.
G
Yes,
that
we
have
green,
let
this
memorandum
and
myself
and
Reagan
Henninger
from
the
housing
department
are
here
for
any
questions
that
the
committee
might
have.
H
H
Tell
you
that,
when
this
idea
to
open
up
or
to
to
work
with
VTA
to
open
up
this
location,
at
least
in
my
mind
when
we
conceived
of
the
idea
a
few
years
ago,
was
to
have
it
be
low
barrier,
and
so
I
think
this
is
in
the
right
direction
and
I'm
very
much
supportive
of
it.
And
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
forward
and
presenting
Council
Brewer,
Butler
and
I'll
move
approval.
E
O
Thank
you,
I
have
a
quick
question.
You
know
I
know
I'm,
aware
of
some
safe
parking
areas
for
regular
cars
and
in
some
of
the
areas
they
have
some
kind
of
assistance
to
be
able
to
come
into
compliance
and
I
was
just
curious.
You
know
if,
if
that's
even
possible,
to
try
to
get
people's
registrations
up.
You
know
I
know
that
in
the
past
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
talk
about.
O
Well,
maybe
we
can
get
the
potential
of
you
know
if
if
an
RV
is
in
need
of
some
repairs
but
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
site
that
would
be
eligible
for
something
like
that.
I
know
for
the
cars
there
have
been
Pathways
where
certain
churches
do
allow
for
trying
to
help
get
your
registration,
get
your
insurance,
get
you
back
into
compliance,
so
that
you
know
there.
Isn't
that
fear
of
being
out
there
and
I
was
just
curious
if
This
lends
itself
to
some
of
that
kind
of
assistance.
P
P
Sure
so
it's
it's
a
there's.
A
certain
amount
of
risk
and
liability
to
have
people
on
site
with
vehicles
that
are
uninsured,
which
is
actually
a
state
law,
is
that
I'm
looking
at
the
City
attorney,
it's
state
law
to
have,
you
know,
license
and
registration
and
insurance
it's.
So
it's
a
requirement
with
our
lease
with
Valley
Transportation
Authority,
that
the
vehicles
on
site
have
meet
the
state
requirement.
P
It's
also
part
of
any
of
the
city's
contracts
with
non-profits.
They
are
required
to
have
insurance
for
operating
their
program
and
when
life
moves
was
shopping
for
insurance.
For
this
particular
program,
it
was
very
hard
to
find
insurance
that
would
cover
them
for
vehicles
that
don't
meet
this
state
requirement.
P
So
that's
part
of
the
the
tangled
web
here
that
we're
trying
to
unweave
and
find
a
solution
for,
but
it
will
mean
renegotiating
a
contract
with
Valley
Transportation
Authority
and
amending
our
contract
with
life
moves,
but
also
bringing
it
back
to
city
council,
because
city
council
would
have
to
assume
more
liability
and
risk
for
this
program.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you.
That
makes
sense.
So
the
last
statement
sort
of
answer.
The
question
I
was
having,
as
you
were
going
through.
You
know
the
anticipation
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
work
through
those
issues
with
VTA
and
and
life
moves,
but
it
seems
like
if
the
city's
taking
on
more
responsibility
reliability.
Then
we
can
take
that
burden.
If
you
will
right
the
question
the
other
question
I
had
was
I
noticed.
You
know
on
the
early
consideration
form
at
the
bottom.
H
You
see
the
different
departments
that
are
required
to
or
that
are
to
participate
on
this
particular
policy
item,
one
of
the
one
of
the
boxes.
That's
marked
as
Finance
I,
think
of
Finance
I
think
of
money,
but
is
that
because
some
of
the
assistant
is
going
to
be
tied
to
the
city's
formal
process
for
granting
assistance
of
folks
that
maybe
are
considered
low
income
or
things
of
that
nature,
I.
G
And
Reagan
can
clarify
I
think
it
is
mostly
because
of
the
additional
risk
and
the
insurance
that
we
would
be
taking
on
as
a
part
of
it.
So
again
we're
green
lighting,
the
evaluation
of
this
work
and
I
think
as
Reagan
outlined
this
would
come
back
to
council
so
that
you
guys
would
understand
that
risk
and
there
probably
would
be
some
type
of
financial
component
around
it
for
you
guys
to
make
a
decision.
Ultimately,
okay,.
O
See
that's
what
happens
when
you
know.
Your
colleague
asks
a
question
also,
and
something
else
comes
up.
So
you
know
I
know
that
there's
a
process
that
we'd
have
to
work
out
with
BTA
and
all
of
that,
but
is
there
any
possibility
to
kind
of
prep
before
you
know
like,
because
you
could
actually
get
some
of
this
stuff
going
before
they
move
and
I
know
Gail's
been
out
there
really
just
doing
a
lot
of
work.
O
So
is
there
a
possibility
of
you
know
providing
some
of
this
assistance
getting
it
going
having
them
get
their
registration
giving
them?
You
know
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
a
leg
up
prior
to
actually
getting
there
and
they
would
have
the
stuff
right.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
long
it
takes,
but
you
know
at
least
moving
some
of
those
things
ahead
of
time.
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
if
we
have
the
program
available
and
they're
going
to
go,
there
then
it'd
be
nice.
P
Yeah
we've.
We
are
doing
that
so,
for
example,
there's
there's
10
RVs
that
that
have
not
moved
on
to
the
site
yet
because
they
had
a
paperwork
issue.
I'll
just
call
it
that
whether
it
was.
P
One
of
those
three
things
license:
registration,
Insurance
of
those
10
we've
been
able
to
resolve
those
issues
for
three
of
them
and
are
preparing
them
to
move
on
the
site
and
we're
still
working
with
those
other
seven
on
the
paperwork.
Yeah.
O
C
You
know
we've
been
talking
about
this
issue
for
a
long
time,
not
just
this
year
and
one
one
thing
I
I
see
on
the
on
the
early
consideration
form
is,
you
know,
come
back
in
January
of
2024.
In
the
meantime,
obviously
we
need
we.
We
can't
wait
till
January,
2024
and
having
these
barriers
in
place
is
obviously
causing
an
issue.
C
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
remove
them,
but
we
have
the
tool
now
to
to
handle
some
of
these
cases
and
I
see
I
hear
from
you
now
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
we're
actually
trying
to
handle
those
cases
I.
C
C
I
thought,
maybe
I'd
get
to
a
question,
but
I
I
do
I,
do
think
it's
important
you
know,
and
maybe
I
won't
be
a
I
won't
be
as
nice
and
suggest
and
being
suggesting,
as
my
colleagues
were,
because
I'm
very
frustrated
that
we
keep
having
this
conversation
last
year,
I
was
a
co-author
on
a
memo
and
I.
Think
councilmember
Foley
was
on
that
memo.
C
G
I
think
most
of
it
was
addressed
at
least
that's
my
understanding
unless
Reagan
feels
differently-
and
you
know,
as
we
said
as
we
kind
of
go
into
this,
there's
going
to
be
unforeseen
circumstances
like
this,
where
we
need
to
Pivot
and
change
so
I
think
that's
why
we're
we're
green
lighting,
the
policy
work
here,
there's
going
to
be
unintended
consequences
or
hurdles
that
present
themselves,
whether
it's
you
know
state
law
or
you
know
the
insurance
requirements
and
again
we
can
obviously
work
with
our
operators
to
ensure
that
proper
communication
is
going
out
if
it
isn't
now.
C
Yeah
I
mean,
as
you
know,
we
had.
The
story
was
on
the
kpix
on
Monday,
right
and
I
was
interviewed
about
it
and
they
you
know
they
were.
There
was
no
information
in
there
about
this
assistance
right
people,
weren't
weren't,
aware
the
people
on
the
street
that
were
told
they
can't
move
there.
Hadn't
seemed
like
they
hadn't
been
made
aware
of
this,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we.
C
We
include
that
in
our
communication
and
that
life
moves
is
very
specific
about
finding
out
what
help
people
need,
so
that
we
can
address
that
if
we're
trying
to
get
people
moved
into
these
sites.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Reagan
I,
don't
think
I
have
any
more
questions.
My
concern
again
is
that
timeline.
Obviously
there's
there's
urgency
now
so
I
just
think.
We
have
to
be
focused
on
that
when
we
discussed
opening
the
Berryessa
site.
C
I
know
it
was
a
conversation
that
when
that
site,
we
were
going
to
figure
out
how
to
not
have
these
barriers
as
we
opened
it.
We
wouldn't
be
starting
with
that
site
in
the
same
condition.
That's
a
little
different,
of
course,
because
we're
not
dealing
with
a
contract
with
VTA
we've
got
our
we're,
leasing,
the
property
and
it's
a
different
circumstance,
but
hopefully
that
we'll
have
this
figured
out
by
the
time
that
site
is
ready
for
vehicles
to
move
on
to
it.
C
And
then
the
last
thing
I
was
going
to
mention
is
about
the
liability,
I
I'm
perfectly
willing-
and
if
we've
had
this
conversation
before
I'm
perfectly
willing
to
have
the
city
assume
some
liability
as
well
I
mean
we.
My
opinion
is
that
the
current
status
quo,
where
we
have
vehicles
in
neighborhoods
and
all
over
the
city
is
probably
putting
liability
on
the
city
as
it
is,
so
we
have
vehicles
dumping
their
waste
in
our
sewers.
C
We
have
vehicles,
you
know
you
know,
fires
around
vehicles
and
other
things
happening,
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
imagine
that
we
are
absolved
of
all
liability
in
those
circumstances
and
that
we
are
better
off
exhuming
the
liability
to
put
people
into
the
controlled
environment
with
Services
than
we
are
with
the
status
quo.
So
if
there's
a
discussion,
we
need
to
have
as
Council
I
encourage
us
to
have
it
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
we
can
begin
to
move
forward
with
solving
this
big
problem
that
we
have
across
the
city.
H
Part
of
that
came
from
a
visit
that
I
had
to
a
VTA
lot
and
Mountain
View.
That
was
managed
by
life
moves
and
my
recollection-
and
this
was
several
years
ago,
but
my
recollection
was
that
they
were
already
dealing
with
the
very
issue.
We're
asking
you
all
now
to
deal
with
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
why
that
wasn't
that
model
that
they
had
in
another
city
with
the
same
agency
wasn't
followed
and
I'm
curious.
If
there's
anything
that
we
need
to
know,
that's
uniquely
different
about
the
city
of
San
Jose.
H
P
I'm
I'm
trying
to
I've,
been
to
the
Mountain
View
site
and
I'm,
just
trying
to
remember,
but
I,
don't
I
think
they
had
similar
issues
councilmember,
because
again,
what
we're
dealing
with
is
a
state
requirement
right
that
we
have
insurance
and.
H
E
Q
C
C
Yet
where
we've
dealt
with
all
the
operable
vehicles
and
everything
on
the
street
is
inoperable
and
I
know
there
are
for
a
fact,
because
there's
more
RVs
moving
into
neighborhoods
in
my
district
and
I'm
sure
other
districts
right
now
when
they
move
there
they're
operable
because
they
they
showed
up
right.
So
we
shouldn't
be
saying:
well,
let's
we're
focusing
on
this
one
site.
C
We
can't
find
ones
that
we
can
move
now
and
then
getting
delayed
and
going
back
now
to
another
site
and
and
finding
the
operable
vehicles
that
are
ready
to
take
the
service
and
move
I
know
there's
you
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
tough
challenge.
There's
it's
work
for
the
staff
to
be
all
over
the
city.
Doing
this,
but
I
have
a
feeling
that,
with
a
concerted
effort,
we
could
fill
those
42
spots
from
from
our
with
RVs
that
are
on
the
streets
across
the
city.
C
P
Myself,
council
member,
so
we're
not
saying
we're
we're
not
taking.
P
We
will
fill
42
spots,
we're
at
22
right
now,
there's
10
people
that
are
in
process
to
moving
on
site.
What
would
put
us
at
32,
so
we
have
basically
10
spots
remaining
for
the
rest
of
the
city,
because
the
10
that
are
in
process
are
commitments
we've
made
to
the
geographic
area
of
districts,
2
and
10.,
so
Citywide.
That
leaves
us
with
10
spots
remaining,
which
we
will
be
able
to
fill
very
easily.
I
have
no
doubt
about
that.
C
C
10
spots,
but
thank
you
very
much
I
think
we
had
a
motion
in
a
second
unless
there's
other
comments.
Let's
vote
on
this
item.
C
H
Yeah,
thank
you
to
stay
on
the
topic
of
oversized
vehicles
or
RVs.
There's
a
memorandum
that's
submitted
to
committee
by
mayor
Mayhem
myself,
you
chair,
Cohen
and
council
member
dwan,
who
isn't
here,
but
in
effect
it's
to
direct
the
city
manager
to
explore
the
following.
H
Well
and
I'll:
touch
on
the
concepts,
but
following
concepts
and
return
accounts
within
90
days
with
recommendations
and
a
framework
for
evaluation
and
discussion,
and
the
staff
analysis
essentially
is
an
evaluation
of
where
RVs
can
and
can't
park
across
the
city,
recognizing
that
they
are
in
many
many
different
locations.
As
an
example,
we
heard
recently
the
actually
on
the
other
item.
H
There
was
a
caller
from
KIPP
Schools
that
called
in
and
if
we
all
recall
during
that
conversation
a
few
Council
meetings
ago,
some
of
the
kids
here
expressing
concern
about
some
of
the
conditions
in
and
around
their
school,
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
RVs
that
were
there.
The
memo
asked
staff
to
research
and
analyze
several
different
things.
A
few
of
the
things
that
I'll
highlight
is
is
really
evaluating
the
practicality
limiting
the
number
of
permits
as
an
example
to
the
last
point.
H
In
time
count
which
I
think
we
head
down
is
about
770
RVs
in
the
city
of
San,
Jose
and
I
suspect,
there's
probably
more
than
that.
But
that's
what
was
identified
last
time,
and
so
it's
to
evaluate
that
recognizing
there
may
be
some
some
legal
sort
of
implications
or
challenges
associated
with
that
also
just
to
highlight
a
few
things
is
to
provide
notice
and
maps
to
Residents,
essentially
of
where
and
where
they
can
and
can't
park
and
I'll.
Give
you
an
example:
I
have
a
map
here
from
the
city
of
Mountain
View.
H
Think
it's
a
wonderful
approach,
although
my
understanding
is
the
city
of
Mountain,
View
went
through
and
evaluated
and
measured
all
their
streets,
which
I
don't
think
it's
practical
here
in
the
city
of
San
Jose
Additionally,
the
the
the
memo
is
looking
giving
direction
to
staff
to
consider
and
provide
alternative
enforcement
tools
to
just
deter
the
storage
of
vehicles
and
public
right-of-ways,
and
also
really
streamline
the
creation
of
RV
safe
parking
sites
so
tied
to
the
item
that
was
before
us
before,
essentially
just
trying
to
speed
up
the
process.
H
So
we
get
these
established
in
different
parts
of
the
city
as
quickly
as
possible.
Now
we
also
recognize,
obviously,
in
reading
the
early
consideration
form,
there's
not
many
items
that
I
see
rated
12.,
which
means
are
highly
complex.
We
have
the
city,
attorney's
office,
housing,
I.T
and
all
these
different
departments
that
need
to
really
dig
their
heels
in
and
start
working
on
this
a
little
bit,
and
so
we
understand
that
it's
going
to
require
some
analysis
and
so
in
the
description
from
staff
it's
and
I'm
going
into
your
space.
H
Now
these
are
my
apologies,
but
while
doable
the
breath,
analysis
requires
significant
sort
of
work
and
and
that
they
aim
to
return
in
January
2024,
with
some
of
the
analysis
that's
outlined
in
the
memo,
so
I
would
encourage
and
make
a
motion
for
approval
and
encourage
my
colleagues
to
accept.
Thank
you.
C
We
typically
will
take
public
comment
before
the
motion,
so
we'll
come
back
to
that
I
as
a
co-author
on
the
memo.
I'll
just
make
a
quick
comment
before
we
go
to
public
comment
and
just
say
there
are.
Obviously
this
memo
has
a
lot
of
it
a
lot
in
it.
There
are
things
in
it
that,
as
an
even
as
an
author
of
this
memo,
give
me
a
little
heartburn,
nothing,
not
everything
is
straightforward.
Not
everything
is
practical.
C
On
the
other
hand,
and
that's
why
I
worked
as
a
co-author
very
hard
to
make
sure
the
memo
was
clearly
suggesting
that
we
need
to
study
all
these
things
and
have
an
understanding
of
what's
in
our
toolkit
and
what
won't
be
in
our
tool
kit
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
make
decisions
based
on
that.
This
is
an
investigatory
request
and
not
a
policy
making
request
at
this
stage,
and
so
with
that
we'll
move
to
public
comment
and
then
come
back
for
discussion,
but
go
ahead.
Yeah.
H
H
Certainly
our
heart
goes
out
to
the
goes
out
to
the
people
living
in
tents
living
on
the
street
living
in
RVs
right
on
the
side
of
Roads.
Obviously
we
need
to
do
something
and
I
I'd
like
to
think
that
we
as
a
council
have
really
done
and
continue
to
try
to
do
more
for
those
residents.
R
Hi
Jordan
moldau
District
three
I'd,
encourage
you
not
to
spend
time
and
money
on
this.
We
just
had
a
big
meeting
yesterday
with
concerns
about
how
we're
gonna
fund
City
programs
for
the
next
few
years.
R
R
You
know
I
lived
in
Mountain
View
when
they
were
implementing
their
program.
You
know
there
was
a
lot
of
money
spent
to
educate
people
and
implement
the
thing,
and
then
they
messed
it
up.
They
had
to
redo
it.
I'm
pretty
sure
there
was
a
lawsuit
at
some
point
that
they
had
to
deal
with
like.
This
is
not
a
cheap
thing
and,
as
you
said,
San
Jose
is
much
much
bigger
than
Mountain
View.
R
You
know
the
other
thing
I
see
is
that,
like
you
know
to
me,
people
say
like
oh
there's
a
safety
issue,
but
you
know
it's
always
about
RVs.
You
know
there's
other
types
of
oversized
vehicles
that
also
theoretically
limit
sight
lines,
but
people
don't
complain
about
them.
It
seems
much
more
likely
that
people
are
just
looking
for
some
simple
way
to
get
homeless
people
away
from
them.
R
We've
got
a
bunch
of
existing
regulations.
You
know
if
there's
health
hazards,
let's
enforce
you,
know
our
health
regulations,
if
they're
actually
blocking
bike,
Lanes
or
driveways
or
car
Lanes.
Let's
enforce
those
you
know,
San
Jose
doesn't
really
do
a
good
job
of
enforcing
its
existing
regulations
against
cars.
You
know,
you've
got
cars,
blocking
bike,
Lanes
constantly
in
San,
Jose
and
the
city
barely
does
anything
about
it.
Hell
the
police
are
off
and
the
ones
blocking
the
bike
Lanes
with
their
cruisers
for
no
good
reason.
Q
Hi,
this
is
Kira
kazanzas
from
Silicon
Valley
Council
of
nonprofits,
and
today
I'm
here
representing
the
non-profit,
racial
Equity
action,
leadership,
coalition's,
housing,
Justice,
work,
group
I
know
that's
a
mouthful,
we're
still
analyzing
these
three
items,
so
C1,
C2
and
C3,
and
we're
conferring
with
our
members
and
partners.
However,
we
do
think
it's
important
to
speak
to
the
potential
of
some
of
these,
the
approaches
being
considered
to
lead
to
the
unnecessary
criminalization
of
homelessness.
So
we
ask
that
you
know
these
aspects
be
avoided
in
the
policy
making
and
program
making
process.
Q
J
J
San
Jose
Santa
Teresa
makes
everybody
walk
to
one
location
for
porta,
potties
I,
don't
get
it,
but
anyway
I
I'm
thinking.
If
you
had
a
a
gate
that
you
could
give
somebody
a
code
to
so
they
can
let
themselves
in
and
out
so
this
you
know
the
surrounding
neighborhood
feels
safe.
That
would
be
better
than
a
security
guard.
What
can
a
security
guard
do?
Do
we
really
arm
that
I
mean
look
come
on
these,
make
it
make
a
gated
community
for
the
the
RVs
you
know,
Silver
Creek
is
gated.
J
M
I
wasn't
going
to
speak
on
this,
but
the
RVs
do
not
people
that
live
in
RVs
do
not
need
to
be
criminalized,
and
this
is
what
I
feel
is
going
on.
It's
just
like
all
the
other
abatements
when
you
Abate
people
that
live
in
tents.
Where
do
they
go?
Oh
around
the
corner
or
the
next
block
I
was
out
at
educational,
Francesca
and
I
went
out
there
to
talk
to
the
folks
there
and
they
all
finally
left,
but
we
need
a
place.
You're
gonna.
You
hear
this
all
the
time.
M
I
know
you
do,
but
we
need
a
place
for
people
to
go.
There's
a
lot
of
VTA
sites.
They
can
be
going
to
there's
churches.
We
all
know
this,
but
I
think
what
we're
all
feeling
right
now
is:
there's
nothing.
There's
no
place
for
people
to
go
I'm
very
excited.
Hopefully
it's
going
to
happen
soon.
The
Berryessa
site,
because
we've
I'm
already
working
with
a
bunch
of
RV
people
that
are
going
to
hopefully
go
in
there,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
a
good
thing.
M
But
RVs
are
just
people
like
you
and
I
and
there's
no
place
any
Street.
You
go
to
there's
RVs
and
we
can't
just
push
them
out.
We
have
to
have
a
compromise,
what
I
don't
know,
but
we
have
to
also
find
some
more
safe
parking
for
RVs
and,
like
Francesco,
said
please
in
every
single
District
there's
space.
Thank
you.
L
You
have
to
remember
that
a
lot
of
those
people
are
just
trying.
They
are
hanging
on
to
the
last
thing
that
they
have.
This
is
the
last
thing
that
they
can
trust,
because
half
of
them
have
been
burned
by
the
system.
Already
they
probably
tried
a
tiny
home
or
they
got
timed
out
waiting
for
something
or
they
have
a
tiny
home,
but
they
still
have
that
RV
because
they
know
if
this
tiny
home
falls
through
that
they
still
have
that
tiny
home,
where
they
still
have
that
RV
to
fall
back
on.
L
So
you
have
to
understand
how
important
these
RVs
are
to
people.
This
is
the
last
thing
they
could.
They
could
leave
in
it.
If
everything
falls
to
Hell
tomorrow
they
still
have
that
RV,
but
to
push
them
into
like
the
last
belonging
that
they
have
their
last
thing
and
say
you
guys
are
over
there.
We
just
cannot
have
you
guys
on
our
streets
anymore.
You
can't
be
all
here
you
all
just
have
to
be.
There
is
I
mean
just
imagine
how
that
would
feel.
L
You
know
it's
like.
Why
don't
we
just
say,
like
you
know,
we're
just
gonna
have
everybody
of
that
race
here
and
everybody
of
that
race
there,
because
it's
always
unhoused
people
that
are
treated
as
a
monolithic
group
and
it's
not
okay.
You
just
can't
keep
doing
it
and
now
you're
doing
a
subdivision
of
unhoused
people.
Treating
them
as
a
monolithic
group
I
mean
if
you
had.
H
Yeah
I
would
just
say
something
I
think
it's
important
to
say
it's
a
state
without
a
question,
but
even
assuming,
because
this
applies
and
I've
said
this
to
people
before
too.
So.
H
This
is
not
something
that
The
Advocates
haven't
I,
don't
I
think
they've
heard
me
say
this
is
that
even
if
we
had
somewhere
for
everyone,
that's
intense
everyone
living
on
the
streets
if
we
had
somewhere
to
for
them
to
go,
and
even
if
we
had
somewhere
for
every
RV
in
the
city
to
go
park,
there
would
and
inevitably
be
some
folks
that
didn't
want,
wouldn't
want
to
go,
and
so
I
think
at
some
point.
H
We
as
a
city
are
going
to
have
to
Grapple
with
that,
especially
if
we're
going
down
the
road
and
establishing
these
safe,
parkings
and
building
the
interim
housing
doing
all
that
we're
going
to
reach
a
Tipping
Point,
where
okay,
we
have
enough
beds
for
people
right
if
you
will,
and
what
do
we
do
for
those
folks
that
are
reluctant
to
go
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
very
important
conversation
to
have
at
some
point,
because
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
that
is
in
fact
the
case.
H
There
are
some
people
that
are
not
going
to
want
to
go
and
and
and
and
but
some
are
right-
I'm
not
treating
them
as
a
monolithic
group,
but
that
is
just
the
reality.
It's
just
like
when
we've
had
discussions
in
the
past
and
I
know,
I
think
I've
said
this
publicly
once
as
we
tiptoe
around
the
fact
that
I
believe
and
I
again,
I've
talked
to
some
of
the
Advocates
about
this-
that
there
is
in
fact
criminal
activity
happening
out
of
RVs
out
of
tents.
H
There
is
stuff
happening,
and
so
we
need
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
that
and
be
very
real
about
that
right.
While
we're
trying
to
help
people
acknowledging
that
they're
in
and
by
the
way,
there's
criminal
activity
happening.
There
there's
also
criminal
activity
happening
in
in
the
house,
Community
people
with
houses,
people
so
so
I'm
just
suggesting
it's
happening
everywhere
right,
and
so
we
can't
approach
this
thinking
that
the
the
the
the
or
being
labeled.
H
As
you
know,
bad
people
up
here,
because
we
we
acknowledge
that
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
real
about
it
and
have
a
very
real
conversation.
I
think
that
oftentimes
we're
poking
around
touching
around
the
surface
of
the
issue
or
around
the
issue,
and
not
really
addressing
and
saying
some
of
these
things
that
need
to
be
said,
because
those
are
where
the
real
conversations
are
going
to
take
place
and
I
would
venture
to
Guess
that
those
very
instances
when
there
is
bad
things
happening,
whether
in
RVs
or
encampments.
H
Those
are
the
ones
that
I
think
a
lot
of
my
residents
are
upset
about
right.
Someone
going
into
their
porch
and
masturbating
on
the
couch
or
whatever
right,
I
mean
I,
know
not
everyone's
doing
that,
but
to
the
dude.
That
is
doing
that.
Then
we
as
a
city
need
to
be
very
clear
about
what
we
want
to
allow
or
push
our
Police
Department
to
do
in
those
circumstances
and
I,
don't
think
that
that
falls
under
the
the
tent
of
criminalizing
homelessness.
That's
just
straight
up
just
bad
behavior.
H
This
shouldn't
be
allowed
anywhere,
whether
you're
in
how
in
a
house
or
whether
you're
in
a
tent
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
express
that,
because
I
think
oftentimes,
we
tiptoe
around
some
of
these
things
and
I
just
think.
We
need
to
just
start
speaking
about
it
more
clearly
and
more
directly.
But.
H
Advocacy
I
know
we're
not
we're
not
going
to
agree.
I
know
we're
going
to
have
some
meetings
in
which
we
can
fight
about
this
on
a
very
personal
level
or
not
a
personal
level,
but
in
a
very
face-to-face
level,
which
I
welcome.
I.
Think
it's
good
to
have
a
debate
and
conversation
about
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
in
here
and
I.
I
suspect
that
it's
going
to
evolve
and
change
and
and
and
move
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
express
that.
So
now,
I
would
move
approval
of
the
memo.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
comments.
Councilmember
Jimenez.
These
are
obviously
very
difficult
conversations
and
I
think
it
we
shouldn't
shy
away
from
them
and
I've.
Had
these
conversations
with
the
people
in
this
room
face
to
face
of
look.
C
And
if
we
continue
to
say
we're
not
going
to
put
any
ordinance
in
place
or
try
to
deal
with
this
problem,
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
serve
any
of
us.
I
think
the
likely
outcome
of
that
is.
We
will
continue
to
have
people
up
here,
get
elected
out
of
office
so
that
somebody
else
can
solve
the
problem
until
you
find
the
people
who
are
the
harshest
and
least
compassionate
of
all
running
the
city
and
and
and
truly
criminalizing
homelessness.
C
C
Four
five
six
RV
start
to
show
up
they're,
saying
you're,
letting
the
ghetto
in
my
neighborhood,
and
we
know
we
can
only
go
so
far,
I
think
as
council
members
and
as
a
city
saying
be
patient.
This
problem
will
hopefully
solve
someday
that
that
is
not
something
we
can
continue
to
do.
So
that's
why
I
do
think
it's
necessary
for
us
to
explore
what
are
the
various
things
we
can
do
and
what
are
the
appropriate
places?
C
But
that's
you
know,
we
we've
tried
that
once
we
might
try
it
again,
but
the
RV
question
is
now
creating
some
different
Dynamics
in
the
same
conversation
that
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
address,
or
else
we're
not
going
to
we're
not
going
to
get
a
community
that
buys
into
what
we're
trying
to
do
holistically
as
a
city.
So
that's
that's.
Why
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
the
memo
doesn't
mean
that
all
the
things
the
memo
will
get
enacted.
C
It
doesn't
mean
that
we'll
figure
out
ways
to
make
it
work,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
pushing
ourselves
a
little
bit
to
figure
out
what
are
the
right
ways
to
address
this
issue
and
and
that's
why
I'll
be
supporting
it
today
and
then
we'll
see
what
we
cut,
what
people
we
come
back
with
and
as
and
we'll
I'm
sure
have
multiple
conversations
on
various
items
on
this
memo.
As
we
come
forward
all
right,
any
other
comments
before
we
vote
all
right.
Let's
vote
on
it.
C
C
We've
we've
coined
the
term
van
Lord
in
our
case
on
this
particular
instance,
but
people
who
are
buying
old,
RVs
parking
them
along
the
street
and
then
renting
that
space
out
I
consider
it
a
a
predatory
behavior
that
I,
don't
think,
is
productive
and
actually
can
be
harmful
and
allow
and
makes
it
really
hard
for
us
to
even
harder
for
us
to
figure
out
what
the,
how
to
serve
the
people
who
are
on
the
streets.
Los
Angeles,
just
put
in
place
an
ordinance
Banning.
C
The
use
of
public
space
to
rent
RVs
to
to
others
to
live
in
and
I,
along
with
councilmember
Ortiz,
submitted
a
memo
for
the
city
to
explore
to
understand
better
that
what
they're
doing
in
Los
Angeles
figure
out
what
what
could
apply
here
and
what
we
should
do
to
try
to
to
nip
that
in
the
bud
before
it
becomes
too
big
of
a
problem
in
the
city
of
San
Jose.
J
Okay,
I've
never
heard
of
this.
This
is
crazy,
but
I
do
know.
There
are
situations
where,
when
somebody
has
an
RV
and
they
get
into
housing,
they
give
their
RV
to
a
friend,
but
there's
no
paper
trail
or
the
person
that
was
helping
a
person
in
an
RV
dies
and
they
know
that
the
the
person
who
died.
The
son
knows
that
the
dad
who
died
in
his
RV
wants
his
RV
to
go
to
another
homeless
person.
So
there's
all
these
ways
that
registration
is
a
problem,
but
this
rental
thing
I
have
no
opinion.
C
All
right,
thank
you
just
just
to
follow
up
on,
since
we
had
that
last
comment.
Yes,
you
know,
transferring
ownership
of
an
RV
is
a
very
different
issue
than
charging
somebody
a
thousand
dollars
a
month
to
live
in
an
RV
which
is
which
we
know
is
happening
on
the
Streets
of
San
Jose
and
certainly
is
happening
in
other
parts
of
the
state
as
well.
So
that's
what
this
is
about
any
emotion
or
comment.
E
C
S
80
85
to
90
percent
of
landlords
go
into
eviction
hearings
with
an
attorney
less
than
10
percent
of
the
of
the
renters
have
an
attorney.
The
law.
Foundation
has
been
doing
great
work
for
a
long
long
time.
I
have
been
referring
folks
to
the
law
foundation
and
they
are
coming
back
and
telling
me
the
law
Foundation
through
no
fault
of
its
own
is
saying
we
simply
cannot
take
your
case.
We
are
too
backed
up.
The
eviction.
Center
is
referring
to
folks
to
the
law.
S
Foundation
folks
call
them
and
they
refer
them
back
to
the
eviction
Center.
So
it's
it's
super
frustrating
I'm
currently
helping
two
folks,
one
man.
He
lost
the
first
round
in
the
eviction
he's
appealing
and
if
he
loses
they're
going
to
to
take
his
house
out
of
the
park,
it's
old
it's
going
to
fall
apart,
he's
going
to
lose
everything.
Another
lady
who
has
living
with
an
adult
daughter
and
a
disabled
grandchild
she's
got
a
court
case
next
week.
She
has,
she
has
no
attorney
the
law.
Foundation
told
her.
S
They
couldn't
help
her
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
So
I
am
saying
that
we
have
got
to
pass
a
right
to
council
ordinance
in
San
Jose
in
evictions.
The
eviction
Center
did
send
me
a
list
of
13
attorneys
this
morning.
I
asked
for
it
of
those.
So
far,
one
does
not
work
with
mobile
homes.
One
doesn't
do
any
evictions,
one
doesn't
work
in
San
Jose
one
is
not
currently
doing
evictions
and
one
is
the
bar
association,
so
I'm
winding
my
way
through
the
other
eight
attorneys.
F
Oh
hi
Larry
Beekman
here
for
public
comment
yeah
today,
just
a
good
luck
in
really
working
towards
Tech
accountability.
New
mayor
Mayhem
really
wants
to
work
towards
accountability
practices.
I
hope
he
wants
to
take
Tech
accountability,
ideas
to
heart
and
learn
how
to
make
initial
ideas
from
the
previous
administration
into
his
own
and
I'll
patiently.
Wait
for
that
and
I
hope.
I
can
see
some
interesting
things
develop
as
a
whole
city,
government
staff
and
Community
process.
F
It's
important
important
could
work
and
how
to
address
this
era
of
9
11
that
we're
trying
to
Grapple
with
and
and
work
through
and
I
I
think
there's
answers
in
Tech
accountability.
That
does
something
pretty
amazing
for
that
future
of
peace
and
sustainability,
and
with
all
that
said,
I
I'd
like
to
return
what
I
tried
to
talk
about
yesterday
about
Paul
Soto's
case
my
hand
was
doing
something
really
weird
in
my
my
jacket.
Pocket
is
a
habit
that
I
have
I'm.
F
Sorry,
it
came
out
during
the
meeting
yesterday,
I
I
didn't
I,
didn't
do
it
with
any
intention
of
harm
or
malice
at
all.
It's
just
a
little
plaything
habit.
I
have
that
I'm!
Sorry
about
that,
I'm
really
worried
that
what
how
you've
been
treating
Paul,
Soto's
situation,
I
I,
don't
think
he's
been
that
guilty
of
anything
except
trying
to
work
towards
the
public
meeting
process.
He
is
a
little
strong
I
think
we
all
can
agree
on
that.
F
But
I
think
your
guys's
Solution,
by
throwing
them
in
jail
for
being
strong,
is
really
the
wrong
way
to
go.
He
has
a
few
issues
that
needs
to
help
with
counseling
and
I.
Don't
think
throwing
them
in
jail
is
how
to
answer
those
questions,
and
we
have
to
really
learn
to
address
that.
I
hope
I
can
talk
to
yourselves
more
about
this
and
we
really
work
on
this
and
never
ever
put
Paul
in
jail
again
he's
54
years
old.
He
doesn't
have
to
go
through
this.
He.