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City of San José
Joint Meeting of the Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole
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A
A
B
F
Yummy,
yes,
yeah
hi.
This
will
be
you'll,
be
nicely
talking
about
Digital
Inclusion
issues
on
this
on
this
agenda.
I.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
you
know
to
some
of
the
most
important
things
we're
entering
our
second
stage
of
this
pandemic.
Now
you
know
I
really
have
to
ask
and
how
what
can
be.
You
know
real
good
accountability,
practices
of
ourselves
and
that's
what
you're
doing
next
week
and
I.
F
Thank
you
for,
and
it's
just
you
know,
you
have
a
nice
way
to
clear
the
air
sometimes
and
I
I,
just
I
hope
we
make
commitments
to
do
that.
A
lot
and
I'm
really
for
measure
T
public
oversight
to
be
a
broadened
approach
this
summer
and
ways
that
the
community
can
have
a
real
organized
way
to
discuss
issues
with
with
yourselves
as
government
and
to
really
be
working
on
that
stuff.
You
know
the
importance
of
what
you
know:
the
technology
accountability
ordinance
you
know
is
designed.
F
A
A
A
G
Mara,
this
is
I
had
a
short
memo
attached
to
the
item.
This
item
came
up
as
a
result
of
the
lawsuit
involving
the
Registrar
of
Voters.
We
received
the
court
decision
Friday
night
and
it
it
was
so
was
acted.
The
Rules
Committee
last
Wednesday.
That's
why
we
were
asking
the
committee
to
consider
it
now
as
an
emergency
item,
and
so
the
committee
needs
to
have
a
vote
first
and
these
four
votes
to
determine
whether
it
wants
to
hear
the
item
or
not.
A
Losed,
okay,
so
we
can
now
consider
that
item,
that's
unanimous
and
with
regard
to
the
addition
of
August
4th
can
I
just
add
one
consideration.
I
certainly
I'll
support
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
since
nobody's
going
on
vacation,
presumably
and
we're
all
gonna
be
conducting
meetings
by
zoom
anyway.
I'm
not
wishing
this
on
anyone,
but
should
staff
need
counsel
to
get
together
to
vote
on
something
over
the
summer?
A
C
G
G
H
A
A
F
You
a
short
speech:
I
wrote
three
public
letters
that
speak
to
this
to
these
issues.
I
speak
about
today,
as
we
are
entering
a
second
stage
of
this
pandemic.
I
hope
we
are
considering
the
government
complete,
considering
how
to
be
open
and
how
to
describe
short
term
and
long
term
economic
packages
of
the
next
year
and
to
learn
how
to
create
a
public
safe
space
where
we
can
all
talk
about
thoughts
and
ideas
openly
and
simply
simply
without
competition.
F
How
do
we
maintain
economic
traditions
without
forcing
ourselves
into
undue
burden?
Yet
an
actual
pain,
respecting
traditions
is
one
thing,
but
I
hope
we
can
be
open
to
at
least
short-term
creative
ideas
that
can
be
of
help
and
relief
to
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
practice
my
words
from
yesterday
that
you
know
we've
got
a
long
way
to
go
with
this,
with
the
economic
ramifications
of
the
pandemic
and
I
hope.
F
Yourselfs
can
explain
a
explain
the
possibilities
and,
what's
possible
to
the
public
for
the
short
term
in
the
long
term
and
I
think
you'll
get
good
answers.
I,
don't
think
you'll
get
NASA,
pushback
you'll
just
get
debate
and
you'll
get
you
know,
honest
questions
and
I
feel
we're
at
a
time.
We
have
to
really
be
open
to.
You
know
really
different
ways
of
thinking
for
at
least
the
short
term
to
really
get
over
the
financial
hump
of
things
at
this
time
and
I
just
hope.
F
We
can
all
be
open
to
that
as
a
community
and
work
towards
those
things
as
a
community,
and
you
know,
I
really
want
to
address
how
tech
we
got
to
be
careful
of
it
and
wary
of
it
and
that
the
responsible
practice
is
that
I'm,
a
part
of
you
know
it's
a
way
to
work
towards
that,
and
it
needs
to
be
taken
seriously
and
work.
You
know
as
a
community
on
it
and
I
hope
we
can
do
all
of
that.
Thank.
A
A
D
B
F
A
F
That's
very
nice
for
them,
and
I
wanted
to
politely
remind
of
the
many
bills
that
are
going
through
California,
State
Assembly
and
the
Senate
at
this
time
that
are
trying
to
deal
with.
You
know
the
long-term
issues
of
how
there
can
be
debt
relief
and
mortgage
relief
and
there's
some
interesting
beginnings,
and
you
know
I,
you
know
I'm
a
flaky,
you
know
young
guy
and
so
I
really
believe.
There's
can
be
a
system
that
we
can
be.
F
You
know
full
debt
relief
can
be
established
and
how
to
where
that
has
to
be
the
goal,
and
you
know
we're
slowly
inching
towards
that
and
the
steps
we
take
are
important
and
as
long
as
we're
progressing
towards
that.
That's
what
at
this
time
and
and
to
have
that
mindset
and
so
they're
doing
some
work
at
the
California
state
level
that
I
invite
everyone
to
look
in
to
you
is
it's
good
good
stuff?
And
how
do
we
better
develop
that?
F
Because
people
really
are
not
responsible
for
what
has
happened
with
this
pandemic
and
it
hurts
that
they
have
to
foot
the
bill,
and
it
is
painful
and
I
wish
there
could
be
ways
to
solve
this.
They
shouldn't
have
to
be
paying
for
any
of
this
sort
of
debt,
and
it's
the
short-term
things
that
I
hope
could
be
a
you
know,
help
to
work
out
of
this
time
and
and
to
make
a
clean
slate
and
start
of
how
to
you
know,
start
again,
basically
and
so
I.
A
A
A
H
So
as
I
think
so,
first
Thank
You
mayor
and
members
of
the
rule
committee
I
think
you
will
recall
that
this
memo
was
intended
to
speak
to
some
of
the
items
in
what
is
what
is
now
10.1.
A
the
land
use
consent
calendar
for
the
council
meeting
next
Tuesday
and
just
very
briefly
going
through
the
recommendations.
H
Recommendation
2
is
intended
to
address
or
seek
clarification
on
which
the
zoning
districts,
the
new
uses
that
state
law
requires
cities
to
allow
in
certain
districts
to
declare
for
which
zoning
districts
these
uses
must
be
allowed
in
and
my
understanding
I
know,
planning
staff
is
available
to
speak.
To
this.
My
understanding
is
that
a
supplemental
memorandum
will
be
made
available
that
will
address
some
of
the
the
questions
that
the
council
member
had
and
marcelin
it.
H
You
probably
will
know
better
than
I
what
what
what
whether
additional
zoning
code
amendments
are
necessary
in
order
to
to
implement
a
be
2162
and
a
be
101
specifically
and
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
to
the
questions
that
the
council
member
had
it.
That
would
be
helpful
item,
3
or
recommendation.
3A
would
simply
add
transitional
housing
as
as
a
use
in
the
use
tables.
Right
now
it
exists
as
a
defined
use
and
the
the
referenced
ordinance
includes
transitional
housing
as
well
as
permanent,
supportive
housing.
H
But
currently
neither
of
those
uses
are
found
in
the
use
tables
and
the
councilman
breath
had
recognized
that
a
be
2162
would
would
require
or
I
guess
the
staff
is
intending
to
implement
that
law
by
explicitly
listing
permanent
supportive
housing
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
appropriate
zoning
districts.
But
we
have
not
done.
We
have
not
done
this
with
transitional
housing,
so
the
recommendation
simply
would
be
to
list
transitional
housing
as
or
in
the
use
tables
in
the
zoning
districts,
that
the
Municipal
Code
currently
allows
transitional
housing
in
3
B.
H
My
understanding
is
this
is
the
the
the
item
that
would
require
more
work
from
staff,
but
it
comes
out
of
an
experience
that
we
learned
from
life
moves
which
was
I
believe
trying
to
add
some
additional
beds
to
an
existing
shelter.
We
learned
that
there
were
some
challenges
associated
with
doing
so.
I
believe
life
moves
submitted
a
letter
to
this
effect,
but
this
would
direct
staff
to
return
with
some
modifications
to
the
zoning
code
to
streamline
the
addition
of
beds
in
existing
shelters
and
specifically
non
or
legal
non-conforming
shelters
and
industrial
zoning
districts.
H
A
C
If
I
could,
before
Rosalyn
jumps
in
mayor
I
just
wanted
to,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
items
on
the
agenda
today,
so
I
think
you
know
just
stepping
back
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
how
we're
approaching
these
things.
You
know
we're
in
addition
to
the
green
yellow
red
process.
You
know
we're
looking
to
see
if
it's,
if
it's
Co
vid
related,
you
know
if
it's
if
it's
Co
bed
related
in
response
to
the
current
emergency.
C
You
know
we're
inclined
to
move
forward
with
those
items
and
if
it's
not,
then
I
think
we're
putting
it
through
the
same
level
of
review
that
we
normally
do
with
the
green
yellow
red.
We
don't
see
this
as
Co
vid
related,
and
so
this
this
has
been
put
through
our
normal
process
of
evaluating
value,
waiting
workload,
and
so
Rosalyn
can
now
speak
to
if
she
wants
the
end
of
the
green
red
yellow
approach
and
why
you
see
the
recommendations
that
were
making.
I
Yes,
thank
you
Dave,
so
our
staff
has
had
the
opportunity
to
review
councilmember
Jimenez,
says
memorandum
and,
as
Lucas
stated
items
to
a
B
and
C,
we
have
recommended
as
a
green
light,
and
actually
we
are
drafting
a
supplemental
memo
that
should
be
issued
by
Friday
for
the
item.
Four
for
Tuesday's
council
meeting
item
3a
is
also
a
green
light.
3B
is
the
item
that
will
require
additional
staff
analysis
in
terms
of
looking
at
expanding
emergency
shelters
in
industrial
areas.
I
A
couple
of
key
things
would
be
impacts
on
existing
industrial
users
in
these
areas
as
well
as
we
think
that
we
would
want
to
do
some
outreach,
obviously
to
industrial
users
and
and
really
to
the
community
at
large.
So
that's
the
reason
for
recommending
a
yellow
light
for
that
item
and
then
item
four.
We
have
recommended
a
green
light.
I
J
A
J
G
K
K
L
E
A
M
Mayor,
so
this
is
coming
back
from
last
week,
so
I
have
no
new
comments.
Just
here
to
answer
any
questions
essentially
I
think
I've
heard
stories
from
small
businesses,
restaurants
in
particular
how
they're
they're
kind
of
a
harder
time,
because
a
lot
of
these
delivery
fees
are
taking
a
huge
kind
of
worship
of
their
profit
and
and
right
now
everyone
is
using
the
food
delivery
company,
so
I'm
just
fearful
and
mindful
of
the
impact
on
small
businesses,
of
course,
I'm.
B
N
N
We
connect
customers,
restaurants
and
couriers
through
our
website
and
mobile
app,
and
our
platform
enables
restaurants
to
reach
customers
online
and
offer
delivery,
which
is
something
most
of
our
restaurant
partners,
have
never
been
able
to
do
before,
and
we've
taken
a
lot
of
steps
in
light
of
Cova
to
provide
relief
to
restaurants,
namely
we've
eliminated
Commission's,
which
is
the
fee
that
we
collect
from
businesses
on
all
pickup
orders.
The
end
of
May
we've
eliminated
commissions
for
restaurants
that
are
new
to
door
or
caviar.
N
For
30
days,
we've
instituted
a
zero
dollar
delivery
fee
for
customers
on
Saturdays
to
help
restaurants,
attract
new
customers
and
keep
delivery,
affordable
and
largely
we've
reduced
Commission's
by
50%
for
local
mom-and-pop
restaurants,
those
with
five
or
fewer
locations
through
the
end
of
May,
which
has
been
a
savings
of
four
roughly
750
restaurants
in
San,
Jose.
You've
done
a
lot
for
couriers
as
well.
Those
are
the
delivery
worker,
independent
contractors
who
deliver
on
our
platform.
We've
provided
PPE
free
of
charge.
N
They
have
access
to
two
weeks
of
earnings
if
they're
affected
by
Coppa,
19
and
dashers
in
San
Jose
are
earning
at
or
around
$27
per
active
hour,
including
tips
when
they're
on
our
platform.
We're
also
very
very
proud
of
our
partnership
with
the
city,
the
Health,
Trust
and
local
restaurants,
to
power
delivery
of
14,000
meals
to
seniors
and
homeless
residents
in
San,
Jose
alone
and
I'll.
Just
close
with
this
for
our
platform
to
work,
it
has
to
work
for
restaurants
and
so
we're
open
to
constructive
dialogue.
I'd
welcome
questions
about
our
fee
structure.
N
We
have
grave
concerns,
however,
about
this
proposal
because
we
feel
like
it
would
have
massive
unintended
consequences
to
consumers
couriers
and
even
the
very
restaurants
that
the
proposals
are
aiming
to
help
again
happy
to
take
any
questions
diving
into
our
business
model,
our
fee
structure
and
anything
else.
Anyone
would
like
to
know
about.
I
Thank
You
mayor
hello,
council
members
just
back
again
this
week,
reiterating
our
support
of
councilmember
gaps.
Memo
from
last
week,
we're
looking
at
any
and
all
opportunities
to
offer
relief
to
our
hard-hit,
downtown
hospitality.
Businesses
at
this
time
won't
say
anymore
at
this
moment
just
wanted
to
support
the
memo,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
efforts.
They.
G
I
all
dress
the
legal
issues
and
I
think
the
city
manager
staff
maybe
have
some
policy
questions
the
we
did
look
at
Seattle
and
San
Francisco
both
of
issued
emergency
orders,
so
the
city
manager
is
the
city's
emergency
services
officer.
Has
the
ability
to
issue
an
order
that
would
accomplish
this
if
he
so
wished,
or
the
council
can
adopt
the
urgency
ordinance
and
the
alternative
to
to
to
enact
this
as
well.
There's
some
concerns
since
I
think
operation.
We,
the
yeah
this.
G
This
calls
for
a
10%
if
PPP
or
protective
wear
is
provided
15%,
where
it's
not
in
terms
of
the
cap.
I
think
we're
really
not
staffed
to
keep
track
of
that
I
think
that
would
be
a
logistical
and
very
difficult
that
the
council
wanted
to
go
there
or
manager,
and
so
both
both
San
Francisco
and
Seattle
have
the
same
cap
I
think
it's
15
percent,
but
they
don't
have
a
requirement
on
the
on
the
PPU.
G
Neither
just
think
logistically
it's
difficult,
but
that
would
be
something
for
the
council
and,
if
this
moves
forward
for
the
council
to
consider
the
the
rationale,
obviously,
is
that
the
fees
are
eating
into
the
profits
of
the
restaurants,
particularly
small
restaurants,
and
you
need
to
have
some
kind
of
backup
for
that,
but
rationale,
but
in
terms
of
evidence
that
it's
been
done
again,
there's
two
ways
to
go
and
with
that
all
living,
Dave
or
angel.
Somebody
has
yes
thanks.
C
Rick
and
angel
is
there
to
kind
of
help
with
this
so
just
kind
of
going
through
our
review.
Certainly
co
vid
related.
So
it's
not
a
we're.
Not
you
know
kickin
it
to
anywhere
else.
I
think
it
merits
the
discussion
I.
We
certainly
had
not
identified
this
as
an
issue
for
an
emergency
order
coming
out
of
the
EOC,
so
hadn't
seen
the
the
I
guess
the
need
to
issue
that
type
of
order
weren't,
seeing
the
issues
associated
with
this.
So
you
know
it's
up
to
I,
think
council
to
decide.
C
O
And
Mary
council
members,
you
know
from
a
from
a
food
distribution
perspective.
We
definitely
have
engaged
both
restaurants
and
delivery
operators
and,
quite
frankly,
more
more
recently
I've
been
working
at
relying
on
delivery
operators,
especially
as
it
relates
to
reaching
you
know
hard
to
serve
seniors
that
are
isolated.
The
the
one
red
flag
or
concern
that
comes
up
for
me
is
is:
would
this
have
the
unintended
consequence
of
hindering
our
ability
to
reach
vulnerable
individuals
in
outer
parts
of
San
Jose?
O
And
you
know
that
with
the
San
San
Francisco
ordinance
there,
they
are
having
difficulty
getting
food
distributed
to
the
Treasure
Island
area,
for
example.
We're
hearing
you
know
some
some
feedback
around
that,
and
so
that
would
be
a
concern
you
know,
given
that
we
have
worked
with
both
restaurants
and
delivery
operators.
You
know
I
think
from
a
step
perspective.
You
know,
perhaps
a
more
intentional
discussion
between
the
two
of
them
is
is
more
appropriate
prior
to
jump
in
to
an
ordinance.
O
But
obviously
we
haven't
analyzed
this
from
every
perspective
from
the
full
impact
around
restaurants,
nor
delivery
operators,
but
just
coming
from
that
perspective,
around
food
distribution,
I
sure
would
hate
to
have
anything
really
interrupt
that
because
then
the
default
would
be
that
then
the
city
would
have
picked
that
up
and
then
that
creates
another
kind
of
fiscal
burden
on
the
sea.
So
anyway,
just
some
additional
food
for
thought
in
context.
As
standing
your
discussion
thank.
M
Sure
so
to
Rick's
point
I
completely
understand
that
I'll
even
flag,
another
potential
legal
issue
is
for
whether
companies
can
can
be
asked
to
provide
PPE
for
independent
contractors,
because
one
of
the
kind
of
do
you
see,
if
you're
still
being
that
prong
about
whether
you're,
an
employee
or
independent
contractor
one
of
the
things
as
independent
contractors
provide
their
their
own
tools.
But
I
reckon
ition
of
that
I
drafted
the
way
I
drafted
it
anyway,
simply
because
I
think
we
should
be
encouraging
companies
to
provide
for
PPE
and
I
didn't
expect.
M
I
would
I
would
assume
that
no
company
would
say
no.
We
don't
want
to
provide
that,
so
everyone
would
just
fall
into
the
15%
anyway.
So
in
my
thinking,
I
just
wanted
to
encourage
companies
to
provide
it
and
I
think
that
the
speaker
was
from
door.
Dad
I've
actually
spoken
with
her
previously
and
I.
I
know
that
door
provides
it
and
but
other
companies
might
not
I
think
recently.
Just
this
last
week
we
heard
there
was
a
story
and
Sam
Z
inside
about
another
competitor
that
does
not
provide
them.
So
I
do
think.
M
The
issue
bears
council
consideration.
As
for
this
concern
about
not
being
able
to
provide
service
to
the
outside
of
suburb
areas
of
San,
Jose
I
am
sensitive
to
that
and
I'm
open
to
doing
what
we
can
to
ensure
that
it
doesn't
cut
into
the
business
model.
But
I
will
say
this.
I
think
that
it
is.
We
live
in
a
time
where
a
lot
of
consumer
expectations
are
being
are
being
skewed.
M
We
feel
that
that
is
a
free
service
and
that's
not
the
actual
reality
and
in
food
delivery.
If,
if
door,
like
the
speaker
said,
is
paying
twenty
seven
dollars
an
hour
to
a
driver
to
make
a
delivery
well
and
we
as
a
consumer,
are
able
to
get
that
for,
however
much
it
costs
to
you
know
ten
bucks
or
eight
bucks
somewhere
along
the
way
that
cost
is
being
subsidized,
and
it
is
my
contention
there.
M
M
A
A
There
are
the
parts
that
say
that
simply
don't
get
deliveries
as
a
result
and
I
think
I'm
guessing
if
we
spent
enough
time
sitting
around
the
table
with
folks,
we'd
probably
want
to
come
up
with
at
least
a
two-tier
zone,
or
something
like
that
that
essentially
lifts
the
limit,
if
someone's,
making
a
delivery
down
to
coyote
or
Silver
Creek-
and
it's
gonna
be
an
hour
trip,
you
know
they're
in
backer.
You
know
it's
obviously
there's
there's
much
more
involved
in
the
delivery.
A
A
M
A
E
B
E
Talk
a
little
more
about
the
business
model.
I
know
that
it's
public
information
that
services
like
yours
currently
are
not
profitable
we're
having
a
key
profitability,
and
can
you
for
what
you
can
provide
us?
Can
you
walk
us
through
the
business
model
in
terms
of
the
cost
structure
and
the
fee
structure,
and
then
also
address
the
question
that
came
up
about
transferring
some
of
those
costs
to
the
consumer?
So
can
you
walk
us
through
that?
Please,
yes,.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
by
Sameer.
Jones
commissions
help
pay
for
a
wide
range
of
services
that
we
provide.
Restaurants,
and
our
business
model
is
to
partner
with
restaurants
who
enter
into
an
agreement
with
us.
It's
a
business-to-business
contract
where
we
provide
a
set
of
services
for
a
fee
that
they
pay
us
and
that
fee
can
be
paid
as
a
percentage
of
the
subtotal
or
based
on
how
the
restaurant
chooses
to
use
our
service,
it
could
be
paid
as
a
flat
fee.
I'll
expand
on
the
second
example
really
quickly.
N
There
are
some
restaurants
who
have
their
own
channels.
They
have
their
own
app,
they
have
their
own
website,
they
drive
customers
to
their
website
through
their
own
marketing
and
they
contract
with
us
to
do
what
is
arguably
the
most
labor-intensive
part,
which
is
actually
fulfilling
the
delivery
order.
Those
restaurants
pay
us
a
flat
fee
and
I
raise
that
example,
because
it
makes
it
inherently
difficult
to
impose
a
percentage
price
cap
when
we're
charging
a
flat
fee
right.
But
in
the
instance
where
we
are
charging
a
Commission
fee,
which
is
a
percentage
of
the
subtotal.
N
That
fee
goes
towards
paying
a
variety
of
things:
it
pays
for
our
insurance
costs,
our
credit
card
processing
fees
for
each
order
that
can
be
3
to
4
percent
of
the
order,
subtotal
alone,
so
just
carve
that
out
from
the
percentage
that
we
collect,
that's
just
going
straight
out
the
door.
It
goes
towards
advertising
and
marketing
costs.
It
goes
towards
the
thousands
of
customer
support
agents
that
we
employ
to
respond
to
requests
from
customers,
delivery,
drivers
and
the
restaurants
themselves.
It
goes
to
the
cost
of
building
and
maintaining
a
website
and
our
app.
N
It
goes
towards
the
hundred
million
dollars
of
commission
relief
that
I
outlined
earlier,
including
the
50%
Commission
cut.
So
our
revenues
are
really
coming
from
the
restaurants
who
pay
us
commissions
and
from
consumers
who
pay
us
a
service
fee.
So
what
we've
found
is
that
in
this
time,
consumers
are
incredibly
price
sensitive,
but
they
want
to
support
their
local
restaurants.
So
restaurants
have
told
us
that
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
is
to
subsidize
delivery
for
customers,
because
that's
what's
getting
their
orders
to
come
in
to
the
door.
N
That's
what's
getting
them
to
be
able
to
keep
their
lights
on
frankly,
so
we
really
have
concerns
with
a
notion
that
raising
consumer
fees
is
actually
the
way
out
for
platforms
like
doordash
to
be
able
to
manage
a
price
fix,
because,
frankly,
customers
will
stop
occurring.
You
know
we've
modeled
this
extensively.
We
know
that
raising
consumer
fees
leads
to
customers
ordering
less
frequently,
but
also
ordering
in
lower
amounts,
and
those
are
both
things
that
the
restaurants
who
are
hurting
the
most
don't
want
to
see.
E
E
N
So
I'll
say
that
you
know
we
are
one
platform
in
a
pretty
crowded
field
of
a
few
providers
and
it's
true
that
one
of
the
platform's
opted
quite
publicly
to
reduce
their
service
area
as
a
result
of
the
price
cap,
because
you
know
I
can
only
imagine
they
made
a
calculated
decision,
but
it
was
no
longer
affordable
to
be
able
to
continue
making
deliveries
to
that
remote
part
of
the
city.
I
will
say
that
you
know
that
exists,
probably
even
more
prominently
in
a
city
like
San
Jose,
which
has
you
know
pretty
far-flung
districts.
N
You
know
areas
where
there
aren't
restaurants,
areas
that
are
harder
to
reach
and
I'll
say
that
in
response
to
Cove
in
nineteen
I
mentioned
our
biggest
driver
for
merchants
relief
initially
was
driving
volume.
What
we
did
initially
at
a
cost
to
ourselves
is
actually
expand
service
areas
at
the
start
of
Kovach
19,
because
that's
something
that's
within
our
control.
N
We
can
take
the
addressable
market
for
a
restaurant
and
we
can
expand
it
ourselves
within
our
app
within
our
algorithm
and
allow
for
restaurants
to
reach
more
customers
and
drive
more
sales
to
them
and,
frankly,
to
allow
more
customers
to
access
the
restaurants
that
they
want
to
order
from,
given
that
restaurants
were
actually
closing
their
doors.
So
we
did
that
early
on
and
I'm.
N
You
know
afraid
to
think
through
what
we
would
consider
doing
if
a
permanent,
if
a
temporary
and
potentially
permanent
cap
were
you
know
considered,
we
would
have
to
think
through
some
of
those
decisions
to
expand
those
service
areas
to
the
more
far-flung
districts.
And-
and
you
know
frankly,
we
would
have
to
rethink
some
of
the
other
things
we've
done
at
our
own
cost
to
be
able
to
provide
a
relief
to
restaurants
at
this
time
in
San
Jose.
So.
E
N
Think
it
probably
goes
without
saying
that
everyone's
hurting
a
lot
in
light
of
Co
vyd,
and
so
at
this
time
we
continue
to
be.
You
know,
a
business
that
is
not
making
profit
and
we
actually
are
continuing
to
to
you
know,
force
forces
self-injury,
as
I
stated,
with
the
Commission
cuts
that
we've
imposed
on
our
own
selves
I.
Think
that
you're,
it's
fair
to
ask
a
question,
is
a
sustainable
I
think
that
a
lot
of
us
are
coming
to
terms
with
what
we
can
do
in
a
sustainable
fashion.
How
long
we
can
do
it.
N
The
fee
cuts
that
I
mentioned
the
you
know:
zero
dollar
delivery.
Those
things
are
intended
to
be
temporary
measures
because
we
simply
can't
afford
to
survive.
If
we
order
to
continue
to
do
these
things.
So
while
we
have
imposed
these
measures
voluntarily,
it's
in
order
to
uphold
the
strength
of
our
entire
ecosystem,
we
are
nowhere
without
restaurants,
thriving
and
surviving.
We
are
nowhere
without
dashers
wanting
to
have
earning
opportunities
on
our
platform
continuing
to
log
on
seeing
wages
that
they
want
to
be
able
to
earn
and
accepting
deliveries.
N
So
we
need
to
maintain
the
health
of
our
ecosystem
for
people
to
people
to
be
able
to
be
fed,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
a
future
in
which
these
measures
can
continue.
These
measures
are
very
painful,
they're
costing
us
100
million
dollars
across
all
of
our
markets
combined,
but
I
do
feel.
Like
you
know,
we
are.
E
L
E
My
major
concern
about
this
whole
proposal
is
that
between
businesses
and
companies,
in
a
position
where
one
they're
having
investors
subsidize
another
business
partner
or
business
entity
as
well
as
for
creating
and
tinkering
with
their
business
model
or
they're,
not
able
to
even
break
even
alum,
may
make
a
profit.
So
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
defer
this.
For
how
many
weeks
did
you
want
to
see
mirror
when
we
take
it.
A
A
O
K
Talk
to
are
actually
benefiting
because
this
is
the
only
Avenue
pretty
much
available
to
them
during
kovat
and
without
these
business
partners
a
lot
of
these
business
businesses
would
die,
I
mean
it
would
just
go
out
of
business.
So
to
me
it
seems
that
this
could
be
I
mean
I,
don't
mind
discussing
it,
but
this
could
be
punishing
the
very
the
very
hand
that
feeds
your
like
biting
the
very
hand
that
feeds
you
I.
K
B
N
K
K
No
I,
we
know
I,
want
to
hear
evidence
of
why
it's
needed.
You
know
you
know
I
want
to
hear
from
a
business.
If
London
has
it
I,
you
know
the
only
reason
I
want
to
bring
it
back
is
just
to
hear
from
any
businesses
that
are
saying.
Hey,
I
need
this
thing
to
happen,
because
I'm
not
hearing
that
we
need
these
regulations
and
I
don't
know.
If
this
question
is
for
staff,
how
would
we
enforce
such
regulations?
G
G
You
know
I
and
again,
I
think
this
is.
If
the
motion
passes,
the
mayor
is
gonna,
get
information
that
they
in
San
Francisco
the
these
were
not
ordinances
passed
by
the
Board
of
Supervisors.
This
was
an
order
issued
by
Marilyn
Marie
in
San
Francisco's
case,
and
it
really
was.
There
was
a
lot
of
lobbying
by
the
restaurant
industry
to
to
accomplish
this,
so
I
think
the
it's
it's
good
to
get
the
factual
basis
and
factual
evidences
to
determine
need
and
where
you
want
to
go.
Yeah.
K
No
I
would
like
to
help
from
anybody
in
the
restaurant
industry.
Quite
frankly,
I
want
to
hear
evidence
that
a
regulation
is
needed
before
we
go
into
regulating,
and
so
so
that
you
know
I'm
hoping
that
that
is
what
comes
back
in
two
weeks
time.
Not
just
a
regulation
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
hear
that.
There's
a
need
for
regulation.
Thank
you.
D
D
Here,
a
little
bit
more
I
appreciate
the
breakdown
that
you
gave
vice
mayor,
I,
just
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
of
the
breakdown
on
that
gig
worker,
because
it
was
all
part
of
the
credit
card
fee
and
the
overall
administrative
fee.
And
my
concern
is
what
is
this
going
to
drive
door
and
others
like
you
to
do
wages
in
order
to
create.
C
D
D
Ask
somebody
else
to
take
that
risk
for
me
so
I,
you
know
we
go
and
get
the
food
ourselves
straight
from
the
restaurant
and
so
I
admire
that
you
are
all
doing
this
and
at
a
risk,
financial
risk
to
yourselves
to
keep
food
going
to
the
places
are
difficult
to
get
to
so
I
appreciate
that
effort.
Could
you
just
share
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
what
the
breakdown
is
or
are
those
dashes
that
you
call
them.
N
Thank
You
council,
member
for
your
question
and
I'll
just
share
anecdotally
that
you
know
I
looked
right
before
this
meeting
and
noted
that
Mexico
Lindo
dealloc
vegetarian,
because
the
Rajjo
Indian
cuisine
these
are
all
restaurants
in
your
in
your
district
that
have
all
benefited
from
our
50%
Commission
Relief
Program.
So
if
you
were
to
ask
you
know,
councilmember
Camus
is
asking
for
restaurants,
raise
your
hand
and
say
we
need
this.
N
If
you
were
to
ask
restaurants
in
your
district,
particularly
the
ones
that
are
on
door
that
have
five
or
fewer
locations,
which
is
our
definition
of
you,
know
a
mom-and-pop.
Those
are
restaurants
that
have
already
received
a
50%
reduction
and
are
probably
very
happy
with
third
party
delivery,
because
it
only
allows
them
to
reach
customers
who
you
know,
unlike
you,
may
not
have
the
ability
to
leave
their
home
because
they
feel
you
know
they,
maybe
they're,
elderly
or
immunocompromised
or
unsafe.
To
do
so,
you
know,
or
they
just
they
just
prefer
the
convenience
of
delivery.
N
So
I
appreciate
your
question.
You
know,
while
I'm
not
in
a
position
to
share
the
percentage.
You
know
breakdown
of
this.
What
this
percentage
goes
towards,
dashers,
what
I
can
say
with
confidence
is
that,
as
it
is
by
far
the
largest
portion
of
the
fees
we
collect,
it
is
really
important
to
us
that
dashers
are
able
to
maintain
a
flexible
and
significant
source
of
earnings
through
the
door
platform.
It's
what
keeps
them.
You
know
happy
on
the
platform.
D
N
Yeah
yeah
I
mean,
if
you
have
to
think
about
it
as
like
money
and
money
out,
and
the
money
that's
coming
in
is
largely
going
to
them.
If
there's
less
money
in
there
could
potentially
be
less
money
going
to
them.
I
can
say
just
with
a
lot
of
confidence
that
dashers
are
very
very
concerned
about
this
in
cities
that
have
considered
this.
N
In
New
York
alone,
we
have
3,000
dashers
right
in
to
their
council
members
unto
the
mayor
when
we
asked
them
to,
and
that
was
within
a
few
hours
asking
them
to,
because
they
were
just
so
struck
that
the
council
would
consider
taking
an
action
that
would
hamper
our
ability
to
collect
fees
that
largely
go
to
them
right
to
keep
them
afloat.
So
I
share
that
just
as
a
way
of
saying
you
know,
I
know
that
that
sentiment
exists
across
the
board.
N
That's
not
unique
to
New
York,
or
you
know,
Chicago
or
other
places
where
we've
asked
dashers
to
speak
up
in
this
way
and
I
do
feel
like
San
Jose
dashers.
You
know
some
of
them
come
from
San
Jose.
Most
of
them
are
from
within
the
city
limits.
These
are
your
residents.
You
know
these
are
your
these,
your
constituents.
D
Thank
you
for
that,
so
I
I
would
like
for
us
to
come
back
and,
and
if
we
could
mayor
include
that
in
maybe
in
your
discussions
as
you're
talking
to
to
the
different
companies
and
also
when
we
take
this
back
to
council,
that
we
don't
ask
staff
to
to
produce
a
whole
ordinance
before
we
get
a
chance
to
really
talk
about
it,
I
think
it
was.
It
would
be
premature,
but
I
think
once
you
have
a
conversation
there
with
the
heads
of
the
the
industry.
D
Here
probably
be
a
lot
more
ready
in
terms
of
Norden
ins
than
I.
Think
at
this
point,
because
at
this
point
I
think
it's
still
a
level
of
discussion
and
I
know
that
staff
is
working
quite
a
bit
on
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
asking
them
to
do,
and
so
asking
them
to
spend
some
time
in
the
ordinance
before
we
have
a
discussion
is,
doesn't
make
really
good
use
of
their
time.
I
think.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
M
So
before
the
council,
or
before
the
rules
committee
votes,
let
me
just
want
to
address
two
things
that
I
heard
during
the
discussion.
Vice
mayor
Jones
was
saying
we
shouldn't
have
an
ordinance
or
some
sort
of
rule
that
would
force
investors
to
kind
of
subsidize
business
models
and
such
but
but
I
would
just
want
to
point
out.
This
is
the
reality
whether
whether
San,
Jose
or
other
cities
regulate
at
all
the
business
model,
as
it
is,
is
requiring
investors
to
invest
in
it
to
subsidize
a
door
in
particular
I
think
has
been
around
since
2013.
M
Other
companies
have
been
around
since
you
know,
2014
whatever
the
whole
business
model
is
burning
through
in
venture
capital
into
what
ends,
what
eventually
make
a
profit,
but
to
make
a
profit
by
reshaping
the
market,
I
believe
and,
and
so
I
am
a
free
marketer
as
much
as
anybody
I'll
hold
up
my
bona
fides
against
cosmic
amundsen
and
anybody
who,
who
is
a
republican,
capitalist
or
conservative
or
whatever
I'm
right
there
with
you.
But
I
will
point
out
that
there
is
no
market
that
exists.
M
That
is
not
regulated
to
some
extent
and
the
question
that
I'm
putting
before
the
council
should
we
regulate
in
to
what
extent,
because
I
feel
like
the
comment
earlier.
That
was
made
that
we
need
to
preserve
this
current
ecosystem
to
ensure
that
people
are
fed
I.
Think
I,
don't
quite
agree
with
that,
because
people
are
being
fed
this.
The
ecosystem.
Here
is
it's
a
question
of
convenience.
M
Yes,
there
are
instances
where
there
are
people
who
are
disabled
and
who
can't
get
out
and
I'm
very
sensitive
to
that,
but
there
are
also
people
who
just
couldn't
be
bothered
to
put
on
pants
and
go
get
food
and
and
and
for
those
people
like.
If
you
want
food
brought
to
your
home,
then
you
know
pay
the
fee
to
get
the
food
back
to
your
home
27
dollars
an
hour.
That's
on
you!
M
The
genius
of
the
app
is
that
when
you
have
people
around
the
country
on
the
city
with
an
app
on
your
phone
ready
to
go,
then
this
is
convenient.
And
then,
if
you're,
a
restaurant
you're
not
on
the
app
you're,
not
seen
you're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
sell
your
food
and
whatever
because
you're
not
on
the
app.
So
you
want
to
get
on
the
app
and
everyone
is
on
the
app.
There
is
this
market
that
has
leverage
over
the
restaurants.
It's
like.
M
We
have
reality,
TV
shows
now
that
still
exists,
because
the
2007
writers
strike
in
Hollywood
made
it.
That
shows
just
happened
to
have
to
be
unscripted
and
now
we're
stuck
with
like
The,
Bachelor
or
whatever,
because
there
was
a
time
when
people
couldn't
be
written
okay.
So
this
is
what
I'm
talking
about
in
trying.
M
M
The
internet-
and
just
so
you
can
see
this
is
not
door,
this
a
pub,
but
they
did
46
orders
a
thousand
dollars
in
profit,
but
the
end
of
the
day,
the
restaurant
about
three
hundred
and
seventy
six
dollars
out
of
it.
So
this
is
what
we're
dealing
with,
maybe
not
in
San
Jose,
but
this
is
this
is
something
that's
out
there.
So
this
is
why
I
wanted
to
get
involved
in
regulating
this.
Can.
M
M
M
A
Right,
we're
back
thanks,
remember,
okay,
so
Marga!
Thank
you
for
your
insights
and
we'll
certainly
engage
with
you
and
other
colleagues
of
yours
in
the
industry
and
try
to
see
where
there's
room,
if
any,
to
be
able
to
move
for
something
like
this,
at
least
that's
the
direction
of
the
motion.
If
that's
approved
any
final
comments,
I
see,
someone
has
just
raised
their
hand
in
the
public
Jason
all
right.
P
Yes,
this
is
Jason
out,
or
do
you
guys
hear
me
yep
great
thanks
for
giving
me
the
time
just
quick
I'm,
the
owner
of
Emily's
world-famous,
highlight
from
downtown
snow
Missouri,
so
yeah
so
talking
about
this
issue?
If
you
guys
want
to
talk
to
someone
in
the
industry,
restaurant
I'm
available,
Nate
has
my
information.
If
you
want
to
get
a
hold
of
me,
I'd
love
to
talk
to
you
about
it,
but
I
think
we're
talking
about
precoded
19
in
the
current
situation,
so
pre-coated
19,
you
know
these
fees
that
delivery
services
want
to
charge.
P
That's
an
option
for
a
restaurant.
You
can
or
or
don't
have
to
do
it
right,
but
right
now
this
is
kind
of
our
only
option
right
or
one
of
very
few
options,
and
so
looking
at
the
fees
and
maybe
regulating
them
is
something
that
we
should
really
look
at
in
in
the
situation
for
now,
and
only
for
temporary
like
when
this
is
over
right,
we
can
go
back
to
where
it
was
before.
P
If
we're
going
to
do
something,
keep
in
mind,
the
restaurant
have
been
doing
this
for
a
few
weeks
already,
and
a
lot
of
them
are
hurting
and
a
lot
of
them
were
close
to
shutting
down
so
any
kind
of
relief
that
they
can
get,
whether
it's
even
a
few
dollars
on
fees.
Situations
like
that
it's
gonna
help.
So
just
that's
all
I
want
to
say,
and
thanks
for
the
time.
Thank.
F
Hi,
can
you
give
me
yes
thank
you.
This
was
an
interesting
topic
for
me
to
learn
about
today,
and
you
know
you're
trying
to
get
into
the
process
of
talking
about.
You
know
economic
models
and
I'm.
You
know
I
come
from
the
philosophy
at
a
time
like
this,
how
can
we
keep
prices
down
and
as
low
as
possible
to
ride
through
this
time
period?
And
the
last
the
last
public
speaker
was
was
interesting,
the
restaurant
owner,
you
know
I,
maybe
with
the
guidelines
that
you
can
create
as
a
city
at
this
time.
F
Maybe
that
can
set
a
standard
in
a
pace
that
you
know
that
both
restaurants
and
door
can
follow
and
give
them
a
regulatory
model,
and
you
know
I
back
that
can
go
a
long
way
and
so
I
guess
that's
about
all
I
have
to
say
on
this
item,
I'm
trying
to
learn
how
to
relax
and
just
simply
speak.
You
know
speak
more
my
casual
mind
and
so
I
guess
that
about
covers
things
for
now.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
J
Thank
you,
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
I
agree
with
the
owner
of
Henry's
highlight
that
taking
action
sooner
rather
than
later
would
be
better
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
wait
to
come
back
to
rules
in
two
weeks.
I
would
rather,
it
went
to
Council
in
two
weeks,
and
if
that
was
the
motion
on
the
floor,
I
would
support
it.
I
think
our
businesses
are
hurting.
Our
restaurants
are
hurting
we're
gonna
talk
about
another
initiative,
mayor
that
you
and
I
proposed
for
just
that
purpose.
A
I
Hello
again,
everyone
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
public
comment
on
this
very
important
issue
mayor.
We,
as
the
San
Jose
Downtown
Association,
gratefully,
took
place
in
the
press
conference
last
week
and
are
actively
supporting
your
memo
to
allow
for
use
of
the
public
right-of-way
to
give
businesses
space
to
conduct
their
operations
safely
during
this
pandemic.
I
What
we
need
to
begin
discussing
today
and
I
know
that
you're
here
to
do
is
the
how
and
the
wind
and
the
where
and
the
why
and
at
least
in
the
downtown
area,
what
we
really
want
to
push
for.
You
guys
to
consider
is
having
as
much
as
possible
by
right
and
that
in
particular
to
consider
the
totality
of
the
issue
for
the
restaurant
industry
in
particular.
I
Taking
sidewalk
space
as
long
as
there's
room
for
pedestrians
to
go
seems
to
be
easily
enough
to
consider
but
closing
streets
and
having
them
monitored
and
kind
of
extending
premises,
particularly
for
alcohol
or
extremely
thorny
issues
that
need
to
be
considered
and
we're
going
to
need
strong
leadership.
In
order
to
do
so.
So
we
support
your
memo.
I
We
support
the
idea
behind
this,
and
what
we
really
need
to
see
is
a
quick
consideration
of
how
this
can
be
implemented
safely
and
how
we're
actually
going
to
do
this,
and
in
the
downtown
area
in
particular,
again
just
want
to
avoid
lengthy
permit
processes,
expensive
permit
processes
and
people
needing
to
buy
new
equipment
such
as
fencing
velvet
ropes,
or
what
have
you
to
maintain
their
premises.
We
need
to
do
this
with
what's
available
on
hand
as
quickly
as
humanly
possible,
and
we
thank
you
for
your
leadership
in
putting
this
forward.
Thank.
A
P
Again,
Jason
one
of
Henry's
world-famous
high
life
thanks
everyone
for
the
time.
It's
great
to
see
you
all
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
perspective
from
food
service
business
on
this,
based
on
some
of
the
guidelines,
we've
seen
come
out
of
California
and
other
states
for
reopening
the
economy
and
how
the
issue
of
outside
service
is
going
to
be
critical.
A
critical
option
for
restaurants
and
bars
in
the
near
future,
not
on
restaurants,
at
large
spaces
or
square
footage
like
us,
and
so
social
distancing
inside
is
not
going
to
be
a
viable
option.
P
It's
an
almost
certainty
that
restaurants
and
bars
will
not
be
back
to
normal
capacity
anytime
soon,
and
normal
capacity
is
what
we
need.
What
restaurants
and
bars
need
to
stay
in
business
and
if
our
out,
if
our
indoor
capacity
is
limited,
which
it
most
certainly
will
be,
we
will
need
to
be
able
to
serve
outside
the
process
for
getting
permission
to
do
this
via
permits
can
take
months,
sometimes
weeks
or
months
sometimes,
and
we
need
it
to
be
by
right
and
we
need
to
be
by
right.
P
So
it's
immediate:
if
a
restaurant
of
our
owns
or
leases
the
property
or
for
serving
food
and
drink,
they
should
be
able
to
serve
outside
as
soon
as
the
city
gives
the
order
that
restaurants
can
open
for
dine.
It
needs
to
be
immediate,
and
this
includes
alcohol
sales,
and
this
is
important
because
alcohol
sales
are
so
important
to
the
to
the
success
of
restaurants
and
bars.
P
The
city
will
need
to
address
this
with
the
ABC,
no
doubt
so
that
no
one's
at
risk
of
losing
their
license
for
serving
outside
of
normal
parameters
like
a
sidewalk
or
parking
lots,
and
we
can't
be
expected
to
rent
or
wrecked
fences
or
barriers,
because
I
don't
have
the
money
to
pay
for
it.
Alcohol
sales
are
incredibly
important
to
us,
and
so
serving
outside
must
include
alcohol.
P
The
margins
on
food
are
not
enough
to
keep
us
going
on
a
limited
capacity
basis,
keeping
in
mind
that
most
restaurants
have
been
operating
on
food
only
and
significantly
reduce
revenues
for
four
months
now,
so
outside
seating
options
and
outside
alcohol
sales
will
be
critical
for
restaurants
and
their
ability
to
survive
the
next
few
months,
and
if
we
want
to
get
our
bars
restaurants
back
up
to
full
capacity
quickly
outside
seating
will
almost
certainly
do
this
in
many
cases
thanks.
That's
all
any.
A
P
Thank
You
mayor
the
card,
hello,
I'm
council,
member
Davis
for
your
leadership,
including
for
the
San
Jose
alfresco
memo
forward.
My
name
is
Eddie
trunk
director
of
government
relations
at
the
silicon
by
organization.
We
are
the
region's
Chamber
of
Commerce,
representing
the
interests
of
over
1,200
businesses
in
the
region.
Again,
I
wanted
iterate
our
strong
support
of
this
memo.
P
First
of
all,
thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
to
councilor
datas
for
your
proactive
and
visionary
position
in
terms
of
preparing
the
city
of
San
Jose's
local
restaurant
businesses
to
operate
safely
once
shelter-in-place
orders
have
been
relaxed.
We
know
this,
which
is
that
when
shelter-in-place
is
relaxed
and
the
our
restaurants
will
still
be
operating
at
likely,
50%
or
less
capacity
for
dining
options,
and
so
the
city
of
San
Jose
has
a
really
great
opportunity
to
be
proactive
in
this
way.
P
We
miss
an
opportunity
and
not
too
long
ago,
just
a
few
weeks
ago
when
the
city
could
have
been
doing
inspections
and
construction
sites
to
proceed
once
the
public
health
guidelines
have
been
met.
Let's
not
miss
this
opportunity
now
and
for
the
city
to
meet
your
your
proactive
position
now
and
to
do
the
work
to
allow
restaurants
to
operate
by
right
and
to
be
able
to
continue
as
soon
as
County
Public
Health
Department
has
issued
the
green
light
for
our
restaurants
to
be
able
to
safely
reopen.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
my
comments.
Thank.
B
Merrill
Accardo,
it's
Katie
Hansen
with
the
California
Restaurant
Association,
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
address
you
and
the
fellow
Rules
Committee
members.
The
alfresco
dining
proposal
is
in
alignment
with
the
California
Restaurant
Association's
recommendations
for
reopening
neighborhood
restaurants,
creating
additional
creative
outdoor
dining
spaces
will
be
necessary
to
ensure
proper
physical
distancing
procedures
during
this
pandemic
through
the
greater
use
of
outdoor
public
space.
B
The
proposal
addresses
and
seeks
to
eliminate
the
financial
burdens
of
application
cost
and
waive
permitting
fees
to
allow
for
outdoor
dining,
and
this
is
a
critical
aspect
of
helping
San
Jose
restaurants
reopen
in
the
tough
time
we
respectfully
request
a
vote
in
support
of
the
dining
proposal
today.
Thank
you,
Thank.
A
B
Yes,
hi
I'm,
sorry
about
that.
My
name
is
Michelle
Hawk
I'm,
the
policy
director
for
placemaking
in
public
life
whisper.
We
are
absolutely
thrilled
with
this
program.
We
think
it's
gonna
be
really
transformational
in
the
city,
not
only
during
this
time
as
we
move
back
online
you're,
the
endemic,
but
really
as
a
way
to
manifest
a
lot
of
the
work
that
the
city's
been
doing
around
public
life
over
the
past
several
years.
We
really
urge
that
this
type
of
initiative
is
casted
citywide.
B
That
is
the
flexibility
and
they
need
additional
space,
and
so
we've
submitted
a
letter
that
outlines
additional
measures
we
think
could
be
beneficial
from
creating
business
recovery
zones,
reducing
fees
and
allowing
for
implicit,
temporary
uses,
analyzing
capping,
delivering
fees
which
you've
all
discussed
prior
and
then
rethinking
parks
and
parking
lots
to
serve
as
multi-use
spaces.
And
so
we
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
are
here
to
partner
and
support
this
work
throughout
the
next
several
months.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
Michelle,
thanks
for
your
and
dispersed
partnership
on
this
I
will
come
back
to
the
committee
and
just
want
to
first
acknowledge
that
this
is
not
by
any
means
a
new
idea.
It's
something
that
people
like
blood,
gays,
the
law,
legend
and
Kim
Walsh
and
many
others
in
the
city
have
been
working
over
here's
about
how
we
can
better
utilize
our
public
space
and
bring
people
out
door.
It
just
so
happens.
This
is
an
emergency
when
it
becomes
more
of
an
imperative
for
businesses
to
be
able
to
bring
commerce
outdoors
and
I.
A
Think
there's
a
bit
of
an
opportunity,
perhaps
in
this
crisis
as
well,
for
us
to
to
think
a
little
differently.
I
appreciate
the
input
from
several
members
of
our
community
about
the
desire
to
have
buy-rite
access
and
obviously
that
won't
be
possible.
We're
talking
about
closing
streets,
but
perhaps
with
some
some
of
the
more
modest
opportunities,
for
example,
to
use
private
parking
spaces
in
parking
lots,
for
example,
and
a
strip
mall
wherever
you
know.
A
C
Think
we're
good.
You
know,
I
think
this
is
obviously
code
related,
so
and
so
we're
supportive
of
bringing
this
forward
and
doing
the
work
associated
with
it.
I
know:
Kim
and
blog
they've
already
spent
some
time
on
it
and
have
some
thoughts
about
it.
So
look
forward
to
sharing
those
with
you.
Okay,.
A
Great,
and
we,
of
course
are
fortunate
to
benefit
from
partnerships
like
spur
and
Downtown
Association
I.
Think
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
ideas
about
helping
us
identify
the
ideal
of
geographies
to
be
able
to
start
and
make
this
relatively
easy
on
folks,
khansamar
Davis.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
memo.
Thank.
J
You
Mary
I,
wanted
to
clear
up
one
thing
before
I
go
into
my
comments
because
I've
gotten
some
emails
about
this,
and
it
is
that
we
aren't
just
trying
to
have
staff
and,
and
all
of
us
in
the
city
be
ready
for
when
dr.
Cody
allows
businesses
to
be
open
again,
there
were
some
comments
that
I
got
over
email,
I,
don't
know
if
you
did
as
well
mayor
very
concerned
that
we
were
reopening
businesses
too
early
with
this
memo,
and
this
is
not
what
we
were
intending
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
J
I
know
all
my
colleagues
understand
that,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
public
understands
that
we
we
at
the
city
know
that
we
are
not
the
people
who
decide
when
businesses
can
reopen,
but
we
are
in
charge
of
land
use
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
ready
and
the
staff
is
ready
with
policies
to
be
put
in
place
so
that
businesses
can
reopen
and
be
profitable
again.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
completely
clear,
because
there
were.
There
was
some
confusion
about
that.
J
I
think
when
people
read
in
the
paper
about
it,
but
I
I
am
so
grateful
already
to
the
enthusiastic
response
from
from
city
staff.
I
heard
from
a
few
city
staff
even
last
week
and
earlier
this
week
that
they
were
already
talking
about
this
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
it
might
work
and
I
know
that
there
were
there.
I
spoke
with
some
business
owners
already
on
Lincoln
Avenue
in
my
district
and
they're
also
already
kicking
around
ideas
and
have
ideas
on
how
this
might
work
in
their
area.
K
Mayor
you're
involved
with
I
have
I
have
been
talking
about
this
for
quite
some
time
ever
since
I've
been
in
office
and
think
in
fact,
I've
been
asking
angel
Rios
to
allow
for
our
even
our
parks
to
be
used
for
vendors,
and
we
even
had
a
pilot
a
while
back
but
I'm
glad
that
we're
going
down
this
direction,
anything
that
we
could
do
to
help
these
businesses
stay
afloat
and
allow
people
to
use
to
enjoy
some
of
the
outdoors
I.
Also
don't
want
this
to
be
limited
to
downtown
I.
K
Think
there's
a
lot
of
areas
in
my
district
that
could
be
a
benefit
from
this
ordinance.
You
know
maybe
take
away
two
parking
spots
out
of
a
big.
You
know
parking
lot
area
and
I'd
love
to
see
it
expanded
past
downtown.
That's
my
only
my
only
comment
is
I.
Don't
want
to
see
that
you
know
just
for
downtown.
A
Sorry,
certainly
not
our
intention.
We
do
expect
this
to
be
citywide,
and
you
know
this
Joel,
a
member
of
our
team
come
in
to
me.
It
may
be
the
easiest
place
to
do
this
at
being
a
strip,
mall
and-
and
you
know,
places
like
that-
have
a
lot
of
conflicts
in
public
space,
but
obviously
it's
a
place
that
it's
critical
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
people
outdoors.
A
K
No
I
think
strip
malls
are
perfect.
I
mean
that
the
yeah
right
next
to
your
dry
cleaners,
your
sushi
place
in
any
case
well
and
I,
really
like
the
fact
that
councilman
Davis
you
you
I
did
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls.
When
can
I
do
this,
you
know
and
so
I'm
look.
You
know,
I
told
him
to
stop
slow
down.
The
county
has
to
approve
it.
So
I
don't
know.
Have
you
made
a
motion
yet
I.
A
B
Just
we're
totally
on
board
with
this
opportunity
and
just
a
really
bright
spot
is
we
already
had
a
great
conversation
with
the
state
director
of
ABC,
and
it
was
very
positive.
I
mean
he's
generally
inclined
to
continue
to
allow
these
relaxed
regulations
concerning
alcohol
sales
with
restaurants,
even
if
we
bring
it
outside.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this.
That's.
A
D
Have
a
question:
I
I'm
really
excited
about
this
too.
So
congratulations,
mayor
and
council
member
Davis!
This
is
absolutely
in
line
with
our
wonderful
California
weather,
so
I'm
excited
because
we
don't
get
a
lot
of
these
outdoor
businesses
or
outdoor
seating
for
our
strip,
mall
type
of
businesses,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
How
is
this
gonna
work
with
our
storefront
grant,
I
guess,
first
of
all,
is
our
storefront
grant
still
going
to
be
up
and
running,
and
how
does
that
gonna
work
with
that?
I.
A
Suspect
we'll
decide
in
June
everyone.
D
I
hope
it
doesn't
go
away
way.
It
can
work
in
conjunction
I
know
in
our
village
square
we
were
able
to
get
a
couple
of
storefront
grants
for
some,
our
new
businesses
and
so
I
know.
This
is
for
like
the
permits,
the
cafe
permits
and
fees,
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
idea
if
we
could
marry
those
two
things
and
then
that
way
they
can
also.
We
can
help
absorb
some
of
those
fees.
I
know.
C
D
F
D
G
D
K
K
I
also
I
I
do
also
want
to
potentially
address
the
the
allowing
people
to
take
home
things
such
as
these
squirrels
past
this
lightning,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
businesses
that
can
that
has
specialty
cocktails
would
benefit
from
staying
in
business
as
well.
You
know
past
this.
When
we
start
reopening
some
of
this
I
think
they'll
still
need
to
have
that
temporary
moratorium
that
allows
them
to
deliver
alcoholic
beverages.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
that
could
be
thought
about
as
well.
A
A
So
you
know
it
may
be
a
whole
lot
easier
for
us
to
sit
aside
just
close
down
entire
lanes
of
traffic
if,
rather
than
really
grappling
with
all
these
unique
challenges,
so
well,
I
guess
we'll
learn
a
lot
in
the
weeks
ahead.
Okay,
any
last
questions
or
comments.
Okay,
let's
vote,
then
on
customer
Davis's
motion.
B
H
I,
don't
have
a
lot
to
report
on
so
this
sort
monthly
report
for
April.
As
you
know,
a
number
of
our
projects
have
been
in
progress
for
a
little
bit
and
many
of
them
were
slated
to
come
out
in
the
springtime,
but
you
know
we're
still
work
with
our
and
trying
to
wrap
those
up
and
pending
capacity
within
the
departments
and
the
city
manager's
office,
such
probably
feedback
responsible,
be
getting
those
out
at
some
point.
H
K
H
Now
we're
taking
a
wait-and-see,
we
added
this
one
project,
it's
pretty
much
in
line
with
our
role
in
the
Emergency
Operations
plan.
We'll
probably
do
a
series
of
audits
in
that
area
looking
at
ten
of
those
costs,
but
we
could
potentially
look
into
some
of
these
other
audit
audits
as
well.
We're
kind
of
like
everybody
else,
we're
kind
of
stretched
with
capacity
just
because
about
half
our
offices
and
they're.
H
Not
number
of
people
in
our
office
have
moved
into
other
disaster
service
worker
roles,
working
in
with
a
logistics
team
or
working
with
nonprofit,
Assistance,
Group
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
we've
got
about
three
folks
working
on
the
Cova
19
documentation
on
it
probably
could
free
up
a
few
more
for
a
bit
more
audit
work.
But
it's
really
just
working
with
you
know
the
ESC
folks
figure
out
where
we
can
add
the
most
value.
H
A
B
A
My
recollection,
specifically
auditor's
team,
is
very
heavily
involved
in
the
reimbursement
process.
Is
that
right,
correct,
okay,
so
appreciate
that
it's
going
to
consume
an
awful
lot
of
your
time,
not
just
now,
but
for
quite
a
while
for
those
assignments
that
are
in
process
like
fleet
maintenance
park,
maintenance,
police
lapping?
H
That's
a
great
question,
so
that's
one
thing
we've
been
looking
at
is
re.
Looking
at
you
know
some
of
the
recommendations
and
and
how
do
they
fit
within
the
current
budget
environment,
how
they
fit
with
the
current
service
environment
and
some
might
be
a
little
bit
longer
term
and
some
may
not
make
as
much
sense
as
they
may
have
in
a
different
world,
so
we're
looking
at
those
again
a
lot
of
them.
H
Recommendations
are
about
prioritization,
it's
about
efficiencies,
it's
about
kind
of
procedural
type
things
and
they
still
make
sense,
but
we're
taking
a
taking
a
look,
making
sure
that
the
recommendations
are.
They
still
are
practical
and
in
a
you
know,
and
in
the
sense
of
what
our
current
environment
is.
Okay,.
A
F
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
try
to
quickly
offer
that
you
have
technology
deployment,
audit
things
from
you,
2016
deployment
report
technology
deployment
report,
and
you
know
I.
Imagine
from
that
from
that
report
that
you
there.
You
used
a
lot
of
ideas
from
the
San,
Jose,
sunshine,
ordinance
of
2007
2006
and
that
time
and
I'm
very
sorry
that
I,
you
know
in
the
past
previous
years,
I
did
not
mention
the
San
Jose
sunshine
ordinance
enough,
and
you
know
it's
it's
work
within.
You
know
our
own
City
that
you
know
it.
F
A
A
E
As
I
go
out
to
go
grocery
shopping
or
running
essential,
errands
I'm
really
struck
by
the
number
of
people
who
aren't
wearing
masks
and
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
in
the
store
but
I'm
talking
about
around
the
stores
and
where
people
are
congregating
and
I
just
want
to
see
some
consistency.
All
the
counties
in
the
Bay
Area
have
mandated
face
coverings.
Sir
couple
cities
in
Santa,
Clara,
County,
Milpitas,
Cupertino
and
now
I
just
got
a
notice
that
Palo
Alto
has
mandated
face
coverings,
so
I
just
want
some
consistency
and
some
clarity.
E
The
county
is
urging
people
to
have
face
coverings,
but
when
people
here
urged
that
implies
that
they
have
the
option
they
they
can
make.
The
decision
to
wear
face
coverings
or
not,
and
I
I
want
to
have
again
some
consistency
and
some
clarity
in
terms
of
when
we
go
out
in
public
that
there's
a
comfort
level
that
we
know
that
everybody
who
potentially
be
asymptomatic
but
yet
contagious
and
people
who
have
symptoms
are
not
spraying
those
the
virus
to
others
in
the
community.
E
We're
also
talking
about
opening
up
in
the
process
of
opening
up
restaurants
and
in
businesses,
and
there's
assumption
that
if
we
open
it,
they
will
come
and
I
can
guarantee
you
if
there's
a
segment
of
the
population
who
they
do
not
feel
comfortable
being
in
those
situations
because
of
a
lack
of
face
covering
they're
not
going
to
come.
It's
gonna
take
longer
for
our
economy
and
our
businesses
to
open
up
and
thrive.
A
Thank
you
very,
very
I
support
that
motion
had
a
chance
to,
or
the
Moran
right
I've
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
County
leadership
and
I
think
they're
very
open
to
cities
moving
forward
as
they
wish
and
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
given
what
we're
all
facing
care.
There
are
two
members
of
that
public
would
like
to
speak
one
with
a
phone
number
and
ink
for
963.
L
I
strongly
support
this
I
wish.
It
said
urge
code
19
is
having
a
disparate
impact
on
seniors
and
on
folks
of
color
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I'm
going
out
I
go
out,
as
rarely
as
I
can
and
I
am
absolutely
infuriated
at
the
number
of
people
that
are
walking
around
without
masks
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
there
are
potential
murderers
and
I'm
using
that
term.
Advisedly,
they're
potential
murderers.
So
thank
you.
Council
person,
drones
for
this
memo
and
I
hope
that
when
we
do
open
the
county
mandates
mask.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
K
Yes,
I'm
in
agreement,
I
have
to
say,
with
the
memo
I
do
think
it
was
gonna,
it's
gonna
be
very
tough
to
enforce
and
I
don't
know,
especially
in
our
ethnic
communities.
I
think
that
that
I
don't
want
people
to
feel
I,
don't
know
if
it's
gonna
be
that
enforceable,
but
I
am
supportive
of
it.
As
you
know,
I
don't
know,
if
did
if
council
member
Jones
or
him
in
has
talked
to
the
police
chief
to
get
his
thoughts
or
or
ideas
is
gonna,
be
a
fine
affiliated.
For
example,
I
did.
E
Talk
to
the
chief,
as
you
might
guess,
he
wasn't
a
big
fan
of
my
proposal.
Mm-Hmm
but
I.
Think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
I
use
the
analogy.
Just
like
traffic
enforcement.
We
have
laws
against
speeding,
but
we
don't
have
an
expectation
that
we're
gonna
have
police
officers
spinning.
You
know
the
majority
of
time
going
after
people
who
are
speeding
oftentimes.
We
make
laws
to
keep
honest
people
honest,
so
the
vast
majority
of
the
people.
E
If
they
knows
the
mandate,
will
do
the
right
thing
anyway
and
then,
if
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
an
egregious
offence,
say
you
have
somebody
without
a
mask:
that's
in
the
face
of
grandma,
then
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
for
the
police
to
intervene,
so
it
would
be
situational,
but
we
want
to
want
to
keep
honest
people
honest
and
have
everybody
comply
with
the
laws?
And
if
again,
if
you
have
individuals
who
are
flaunting
the
laws
or
intentionally
not
complying,
then
then
that's
an
opportunity
for
the
police
to
intervene.
C
In
Mayer,
if
I
could
just
share
a
little
perspective,
I
think
so.
Certainly,
we've
talked
it
through
and
Police.
Department
does
have
quite
a
few
concerns
about
the
the
practicality
of
implementation
and
enforcement.
I
do
have
a
request.
You
know
the
way
the
memo
is
structured.
It
it's
directing
us
to
issue
an
emergency
order.
I
think
this
is
better
suited
to
going
to
Council
for
for
council
approval.
C
F
F
All
right,
whoops,
sorry
about
that,
it's
short
I
guess
I'll!
Just
start
again,
you
know
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
this
to
go
to
Council
and
when
it
does,
can
you
can
you
can?
Can
someone
from
the
council?
Can
it
be
explained
exactly
why
Santa
Clara
County
has
opted
not
to
have
the
mass
system
mandatory?
Where
is
every
the
county
of
the
bay
area
has
and
what?
What
are
the
reasonings
behind
exactly?
Why
that
is?
F
A
G
G
G
E
A
Well,
you
know
vice
mayor
if
you're
convinced
that
we
have
a
pretty
standard
set
of
ordinances
out
there,
we
could
simply
cut
and
paste
here
and
at
least
bring
something
that's
already
written
before
the
before
the
council
to
consider
that
is
that
something
you'd
want
to
try
to
do
to
identify
an
ordinance
it's
there.
Definitely
if,
if.
A
F
F
A
L
For
six
years,
I
have
filed
Form
700
in
paper,
both
for
computer
reasons
and
for
visual
reasons,
have
it
have
a
visual
problem
and
generally
dealing
paper
and
not
sitting
in
front
of
a
computer.
So
I
went
down
on
the
12th
of
February
to
fill
out
paper
as
I've
been
doing
for
six
years.
The
person
who
was
assigned
to
the
task
was
very
angry.
I
came
out
and
said
she
wanted
me
to
file.
Instead,
on
the
computer,
I
told
her,
there
had
been
problems
in
the
past,
but
I.
Let
her
bully
me
into
attempting
it.
L
The
attempt
failed.
We
kept
getting
error
messages,
so
I
asked
for
the
paperwork:
I
filled
it
out,
I
turned
it
in,
and
I
got
a
stamp
now
I'm
informed
thirteen
weeks
later
that
the
City
Clerk's
staff
person
gave
me
the
wrong
form
and
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing.
This
online
I
have
a
real
issue
about
the
City
Clerk's
office,
giving
out
the
wrong
forms.
L
We
failing
to
respond
to
emails
when
I
emailed
repeatedly
and
asked
for
help,
and
it
was
only
today
when
I
again
asked
what
was
going
on
then
I'm
told
we
gave
you
the
wrong
form.
Sorry
well
I
understand
that
the
clerk
regrets
it,
but
there
has
to
be
more
accountability
in
that
office,
because
the
consequences
for
members
of
the
public
commissioners
and
council
members
who
are
given
the
wrong
information
is
huge,
so
I'll
be
dealing
with
with
the
clerk
offline
and
I'll
also
be
calling
the
Fair
Political
Practices
Commission.
Thank
you.
Thank.