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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole, May 10, 2023
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B
E
F
Postal
from
the
Horseshoe
there's
two
things
that,
from
a
Chicano
Mexicano
perspective
that
that
concerned
me
number
one
is
the
closure
of
the
San
Pedro
Street.
This
is
this:
is
profiteering
at
the
expense
of
my
community.
I
mean
there's
no
way
to
separate
the
fact
that
you
didn't
have
a
closure
of
San
Pedro
before
covid.
F
This
Council
was
instituting
these
closures
so
that
other
people
could
profit
from
them.
You
can't
separate
the
two
and
that's
why
it
troubles
me
sometimes
because
the
council
continues
to
attempt
to
shut
me
down
when
I
start
talking
about
a
particular
issue.
Then
in
your
opinion,
is
Off
the
Mark,
but
it's
not
because
it's
connected,
and
you
never
allow
for
me
to
continue
my
train
of
thought
so
that
I
can
conclude
it.
We
get
two
minutes
so
well.
F
There's
there's
differences
of
I
mean
I,
don't
expect
a
a
Jewish
white
man
to
understand
what
it
means
to
be
Chicano
or
from
that
person
or
any
kind
of
policy
issues.
From
that
perspective,
the
second
item,
the
second
item
had
to
do
with.
Oh
man,
I
forgot
it
I'll
stay
on
that
one
is
that
we
we
have
to
understand
that
the
profiteering
from
death
from
covert
infections
and
from
increased
poverty.
It
really
challenges
the
moral
Authority
that
you
try
to
exercise
from
this
Council.
Thank
you.
E
G
Hi
Blair
Beekman
here,
hopefully
my
zoom
connection-
will
be
better
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
add
to
Paul's
words
what
he
was
first
talking
about
at
public
comment.
Time
also
I
wanted
to
speak
on
items
several
items
a
few
on
consent,
one
the
first
one
is
about
ending
the
emergency
terms
of
covet
issues,
I'm
wondering
with
the
issues
going
on
at
the
county
level
that
they
no
longer
have
zoom
broadcasts
available.
I,
think
those
Zoom
broadcasts
are
really
doing
an
interesting
thing.
G
That
I
is
there
a
way
to
continue
a
state
of
emergency
for
just
the
Zoom
meeting
process
for
Council
public
meetings
to
figure
out
those
sort
of
ways
of
working,
I
hope
can
be
addressed.
You
have
a
few
issues
about
clean
energy
man
rules
in
open
government.
My
connection
was
really
bad.
Last
week,
I
had
a
ton
of
things
to
say,
and
you
know
I
couldn't
save.
A
G
Words
weren't
going
well
about
clean
energy
issues.
I
have
a
real
concern
again
that
being
a
part
of
the
city,
manager's
office
work,
putting
it
giving
her
policy
decision-making
power
in
five
years
time.
It
could
be
good
for
now,
but
in
five
years
time
I,
don't
think
that's
the
right
strategy.
We
need
to
really
learn
how
to
be
really
expressive
and
emotive
and
and
give
our
positive
good
sales.
G
What
we
honestly
think
is
the
future
of
community
energy
and
the
really
good
stuff
and
we're
heading
down
a
road,
that's
really
bureaucratic
and
governmental,
and
it's
it's
meant
for
the
community,
and
we
got
to
work
on
how
to
do
that
better.
There
was
an
item
about
plaque
April
that
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
Peter
Ortiz
council
president
Ortiz
offered
some
incredibly
decent
words
a
few
weeks
ago.
That
I
hope
it
can
be
a
time
we
can
work
as
one
towards
our
issues.
With
that
in
mind,
good
luck!
G
How
the
country
of
Vietnam
and
the
country
of
the
USA
can
work
together
back
to
the
committee.
B
All
right:
are
there
any
comments
or
motion
so.
H
B
B
This
one's
noticed
right
now
for
9
30,
closed
Session,
1,
30,
open
and
we're
going
to
cancel
the
evening
session
because
there's
no
items
on
the
for
land
use.
We
have
ceremonial
items
and
then
consent
starts
on
Page
Six.
B
Contract
for
package,
two
for
Bart
Silicon,
Valley
streets,
resurfacing,
North
project
and
local
streets
and
other
local
streets
pavement
contract,
Section
8
will
be
the
San
Pedro
Street
status
report
and
then
another
tax-exempt,
housing
Bond.
And
then
the
annual
action
plan
for
block
grant
from
Community
Development.
E
G
Hi
everybody,
you
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
items
about
the
airport
on
the
the
May
23rd
agenda,
just
to
mention
to
mention
the
Bart
phase.
Two
projects
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
that
issue.
A
real
good
luck!
How
I've
learned
that
the
tunneling
issues
can't
start
until
at
least
the
summer
of
2024?
You
get
the
equipment
out
over
here
and
stuff
and
a
real
good
luck:
how
to
make
those
sort
of
issues
clear
to
ourselves.
G
But
when
you
give
very
specific
ideas
to
things
like
what
to
expect
by
the
summer
of
2024
with
cuddling
the
shoes,
then
we
can
act
more
appropriately
and
accordingly
and
how
to
think
and
function
and
that
that
brings
up
concepts
of
Public
Safety
and
just
our
overall,
better
decency
that
you
know
and
how
we've
decided
about
the
future
of
the
tunneling
issues.
Overall
I
think
we've
all
been
a
real
sigh
of
relief
in
how
we've
chosen
the
new
tunnel
system
at
this
time.
G
G
There
was
a
few
other
items.
I
wanted
to
to
talk
about.
I
may
not
have
enough
time
for
that.
I
think
that's
about
all
I
I
said
a
lot
on
this
item.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
E
F
Apostle
from
the
Horseshoe
did
tax
exemptions
that
you're
giving
for
the
properties
on
in
the
snow
area.
The
city
can't
afford
them.
There's
been
a
history
of
too
many
tax
exemptions
for
these
types
of
properties.
The
the
look
at
the
look
at
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
living
in
those
properties-
they're
not
this
is
this-
is
a
bending
of
the
law
and
using
the
law
in
order
to
subsidize
developers
that
are
going
to
capitalize
on
that
and
make
a
significant
profit.
Those
profits
could
have
went
back
into
the
coffers
of
this
city.
F
Now
the
city
is
going
to
we're
going
to
experience
recession
within
the
next
three
years.
The
next
36
months
there's
going
to
be
a
poverty,
and
these
are
waves.
First,
you
had
covid,
then
you're
going
to
have
the
recession
squeeze
the
city,
so
we're
not
exactly
in
a
position
to
be
giving
tax
exemptions
to
build
housing
that
is
going
to
House
people
that
can
afford
foreign.
F
A
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Any
comments
or
questions
for
the
agenda
on
the
23rd
lead
we
had
talked
to
before
about
start
time,
but
we're
all
good
with
130
I
think
right.
I
Yeah
we
were
originally
going
to
propose
11
A.M,
but
there
was
a
few
things
that
slipped
and
given
the
cancellation
of
the
night
meeting
and
no
land
use
items,
I
think
one
130
is
a.
What
would
be
our
recommendation
all
right.
Thank
you.
There
will
be
11,
am
meetings
coming
soon.
B
All
right
motion
carries
five
zero.
That
brings
us
to
our
consent.
Calendar.
We
have
looks
like
six
items
on
consent
and
we'll
start
with
public
comment.
F
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay,
six
items
on
could
possible
from
the
Horseshoe
six
items
on
consent,
the
rules
and
open
government
or
to
to
really
actually,
like
you
know,
kind
of
like
in
an
informal
level,
to
discuss
these
issues
that
are
going
to
eventually
appear
on
our
agenda.
This
is
a
very
powerful
committee
because
it
actually
sets
the
agenda,
and
so,
when
you're
running
through
and
this
this
is
happening
in
since
there
is
a
new
chair,
the
last
the
last
Administration
as
corrupt
as
it
was.
F
F
E
G
All
right,
Blair
Beekman
here
nice
words
by
Paul,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
consent.
Calendar
items
I
want
to
speak
on
today
and
I
wanted
to
speak
on
the
monthly
Auditors
report,
but
I
can't
because
I
got
to
cover
the
other
topic
matter.
Maybe
in
the
future
the
monthly
audit
report
can
have
its
own
subsection
in
the
future
of
a
consent
when
it's
really
crowded
today,
I
guess
I'll.
Just
talk
about
public
record
issues.
G
One
item
is
about
a
Verizon,
placing
you
know,
Broadband
in
local
neighborhoods.
Thank
you
so
much
that
you
are
doing
this.
G
You
know
when
back
in
2014,
you
guys
were
doing
this
all
the
time
and
you'd
always
every
week
would
have
where
new
Broadband
was
going
up.
You
don't
do
that
as
much
anymore.
I
hope
you
can
make
a
return
to
doing
that
and
good
luck.
How
Broadband
installers
can
make
their
notification
process
really
clear,
because
by
doing
that,
those
are
the
simple
steps
towards
openness
and
accountability.
That
works
both
ways.
It
works
to
further
install
broadband
and
yet
practices
the
good
practices
of
openness
and
accountability.
G
Then
we're
knowing
we're
doing
the
good
thing
by
by
making
sure
our
Broadband
installers
have
good
notification
practices.
You
guys
don't
always
keep
up
with
that.
Try
to
work
on
that
as
needed,
and
then
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
letter
to
the
about
the
blight
issues
that
I
want
to
very
much
respect
and
that
you're
going
to
have
an
upcoming
Council
item
on
that
where
they
can
make
their
voice
more
clear.
G
I
think
it's
next
week
it's
my
feeling
for
as
much
as
you
talk
about
you
know
the
law
enforcement
with
blight
issues.
You
don't
talk
about
Solutions,
you
don't
talk
about
the
humanistic
side
of
what
the
upcoming
for
as
much
as
we
want
to
do
the
law
enforcement
things
in
a
new
mayoral
Administration.
It's
now
time
we
have
to
start
transitioning
to
a
holistic
approach
to
how
to
talk
about
these
sort
of
things
and
not
just
one
side
or
the
other
good
luck:
how
to
bounce
and
bring
Colin
user.
E
J
J
She
talks
about
suggestions
and
concerns
were
completely
ignored
and
discouraged
by
the
housing
department
who
were
running
these
meetings.
It
was
as
if
we
weren't
in
the
room
we
were
being
ghosted
Brenda.
This
has
been
happening
for
years
in
meetings
held
by
the
housing
department.
I
would
also
like
to
urge
the
council
to
make
sure
that,
on
these
meetings
for
the
recruitment
of
the
housing
director
that
they
all
be
Zoom
meetings,
I
don't
need
to
go
through
the
long
list
of
the
people
who
need
them,
including
the
immunocompromise,
those
who
lack
Transportation,
Child
Care
issues.
J
You
all
know
this.
It
is
not
difficult
for
someone
to
bring
a
laptop
into
those
meetings.
Council
person
Foley
was
doing
hybrid
meetings
at
at
cafes
and
she
had
a
laptop.
So
we
need
to
ensure
that
all
of
these
meetings
have
a
zoom
option,
because
right
now,
I
believe
there's
only
one,
and
that
is
not
sufficient.
That
is
not
diverse.
Thank
you.
K
B
Consent
calendars
approved
5-0.
So
now,
let's
move
on
to
the
first
memo
in
section
c,
this
is
the
board
of
fair
campaign
political
practices,
revisions
recommendations,
so
I'll
turn
this
over
to
City
attorney.
Let
her
introduce
the
item.
L
Thank
you,
councilmember
Cohen,
this,
the
memo
and
the
items
we're
bringing
forward
the
changes
to
the
municipal
code
and
a
resolution
stem
from
recommendations
that
have
come
from
the
board
and
changes
they
wanted
to
see.
These
were
they've,
been
they
go
back
a
couple
years
and
then
they
were
added
to,
but
it's
been
a
while
before
these
got
brought
forward,
but
these
are
all
things
that
the
board
would
like
to
see
and
the
there's
I
think
they're
outlined
in
the
memo
fairly
clearly.
L
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
start
with
public
comment
on
this
item.
E
G
Hi
Blair
Beekman
here.
Thank
you.
It
sounds
like
with
this
item
and
the
following
item:
you're
trying
to
address
concepts
of
money
and
to
take
kind
of
a
money
concept
out
of
the
election
process
as
much
as
you
can,
and
thank
you.
G
That's
really
nice
of
you
that
you're
working
on
this,
because
it's
an
important
concept,
I've
talked
a
lot
lately
about
the
importance
of
a
participatory
process
of
government
and
community
and
what
our
future
what's
really
possible
for
our
future,
and
these
are
the
steps
to
work
towards
that,
and
you
know,
with
a
lot
of
items.
G
I
hope
we're
really
considering
the
participatory
democracy
process
as
a
good
as
good
new
avenues
that
are
possible
and
available
to
us
and
an
interesting
feature
is,
is
possible
and
you're
you're
helping
that
happen
by
with
these
sort
of
standards.
So
thank
you
and
good
luck
in
our
continuing
efforts
to
be.
We
need
to
find
New
Balances
of
represent
representational
democracy
and
participatory
democracy,
and
these
are
the
ways
to
do
it.
Thank
you.
M
F
Thank
you
sort
of
from
our
student
this
that
explanation
was
an
inadequate
and
it
was
insufficient
to
address
what's
really
happening
within
the
non-profit
organizations.
This
has
everything
to
do
with
nonprofits.
What's
happened
is
this.
Let
me
give
you
an
example:
vigilusion
CC
weather
Collective
and
it's
almost
Mayfair
specifically
what
they
did
is
they
stacked
their
their?
Their
advocacy
was
ramped
up.
They
extracted
political
power
by
siding
with
Google
they're,
the
ones
that
collected
all
the
data
from
the
East
side,
fed
it
Google
and
Google,
fed
that
information
back
to
the
council.
F
When
they
signed
that
agreement
for
the
200
million
dollars,
then
what
happened?
Is
they
stacked
that
Peter
Ortiz
stacked?
His
committee
I
mean
his
staffing
has
supplement
Fair
employees,
previous
employees,
so
knowledge
he
has
people
on
his
staff
to
work
for
somos.
If
facilitated
that
200
deal,
then
what
you
have
is
that
it's
almost
Mayfair
is
now
also
has
stacked
that
that
committee,
that
you
convened
in
order
to
distribute
that
200
million
there's
people
from
somos
Mayfair
on
that
committee.
F
So
what
I'm
asking
the
City
attorney
to
do
is
to
make
this
Rich
whacking.
I
would
like
a
clause
in
there
to
make
this
red
too
active
for
six
years
ever
since
the
non-disclosure
agreement
was
signed.
That's
the
point,
because
it
was
when
that
non-disclosure
agreement
signed
and
it
activates
where
the
invigilation
and
somos,
because
their
budgets
exponentially
increased
out
of
that.
So
they
profited
from
those
relationships.
The
relationships
that
you
try
and
mend
with
this,
but
you
don't
have
the
you,
don't
have
the
courage
to
be
honest
about
it,
so
you.
N
Hi
this
is
Kira
kazanzas
from
Silicon
Valley
Council
of
nonprofits
I
submitted
a
letter
earlier
today
and
I
know
it's
a
little
late,
so
I
don't
know
if
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
but
kind
of.
In
a
nutshell,
it
asked
that
that
the
committee
defer
action
on
the
non-profit
exemption
change
until
there's
an
opportunity
to
outreach
to
the
non-profit
Community.
This
change
is
news
to
us
and
we
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
analyze.
It
I
would
just
say
it
like
first
blush,
it
feels
a
little
off.
N
N
You
know-
maybe
some
folks
would
argue
with
this,
but
I-
think
a
lot
of
the
work
that
I've
personally
done
in
my
organization
has
done,
is
very
much
aligned
with
City
values
and
City
priorities
around
housing
and
around
food
and
other
things
and
putting
a
barrier
you're
up
to
that
doesn't
seem
super
smart
and
it
seems
very
much
different
from
what
a
for-profit
organization
would
do
with
the
information
they
gained
at
City.
N
E
O
All
right,
second,
thank
you,
members
of
the
committee
yeah
I'd,
like
to
Echo
Kyra's
comments.
You
know,
certainly
you
know
the
the
city's
always
thoughtful
in
as
we
look
at
policy
making
that's
going
to
impact
a
particular
segment
of
the
community
to
do
Outreach
to
consider
alternatives.
O
You
know,
while
I
think
as
an
organization
working
partner.
Sorry,
this
is
Jeff
Buchanan.
We
have
to
work
in
Partnerships
USA
as
an
organization.
We
haven't
necessarily
taken
a
a
position
on
on
this
issue.
We
do
think
it's
worth
a
deferral
for
further
consideration
and
Outreach
to
discuss
this
with
the
nonprofit
Community.
O
Secondly,
amongst
the
changes
that
were
suggested
in
the
draft
ordinance,
I
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
around
item
d,
the
city
clerk
being
authorized
to
miss
complaints
without
prejudice
that
do
not
satisfy
the
requirements
this
section
or
outside
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission,
certainly
don't
want
to
see
a
time
necessarily
wasted
with
frivolous
complaints,
but
I
would
be
concerned
that
the
commission,
you
know,
should
be
able
to
have
some
kind
of
check
on
that.
O
We
would
not
to
say
that
we
would
expect
anything
from
our
clerk's
office.
That
would
you
know,
stop
complaints
from
making
their
way
to
the
commission,
but
just
would
want
to
make
sure
if
that
Authority
was
extended,
that
there
was
some
some
way
to
have
a
check
if
there
were,
in
fact,
maybe
complaints
that
were
filed,
that
there
may
be
differences
of
opinion
on
whether
or
not
they
meet
those
standards
realize
there's
often
a
lot
of
gray
areas
in
terms
of
complaints
that
come
before
the
community.
O
So
just
encourage
addition.
B
All
right
comments,
questions
from
colleagues
on
the
committee.
B
C
C
I
was
well
actually
we're
talking
about
the
first
one,
but
it
stood
out
to
me
that
there's
probably
some
work,
I
suspect
each
office
or
my
office
specifically
is
going
to
need
to
do
around
understanding
these
a
little
bit
better
on
both
items
and
so
I'd
be
curious
to
just
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
the
committee
as
to
whether
we
think
we
want
to
push
it
out
a
little
bit
more,
maybe
a
week
more
just
to
give
us
a
little
bit
more
time
to
do
some
of
the
work
and.
L
Council
member
Cohen
may
I
add
that
on
the
23rd.
Also
right
now
on
that
agenda
is
the
by
any
biennial
ethics
review,
part
of
which
covered
public
records
and
so
part
of
that
we
had.
We
had
it
in
with
the
board
changes,
but
it
really
didn't
come
from
the
board.
So
we
put
it
back
over
into
the
biennial
ethics
review,
but
it
is
the
idea
of
not
having
appeals
of
public
records
act,
responses
that
involve
attorney-client
privilege
going
to
the
board.
L
They
that
rests
with
the
council,
and
we
had
an
experience
last
year
where
the
board
couldn't
even
see
the
materials
it
didn't
make
sense
for
the
appeal
to
go
there
and
at
the
time
Council
had
asked
us
to
address
that.
So
that's
also
going
on
the
23rd,
not
that
they
have
to
all
be
aligned,
but
that's
part
of
the
reason
we're
bringing
everything
forward.
B
D
D
P
Just
want
to
weigh
in
on
scheduling
I,
don't
think
we
I
think
the
23rd
is
our
last
meeting
in
May.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
because
we've
got
Memorial
Day
on
the
29th
and
then
we
don't
have
the
30th
and
then
we
get
into
June,
which
those
are
all
early
meetings.
I
know
because
I've
got
the
invocations
in
June
and
for
always
having
to
reschedule
with
our
invocation
people.
So
I
think
we
should
keep
it
on
the
23rd
just
to
for
scheduling
purposes.
H
H
We
hear
it
on
the
23rd,
even
though
it
doesn't
give
us
a
lot
of
time,
our
colleagues
enough
time
to
maybe
research,
the
issues
but
I
I
I'm
more
concerned
about
having
a
robust
conversation
and
having
it
done
before
we
break
for
July
and
then
coming
back
in
August
and
having
the
discussion
then
I
don't
think
we
should
put
this
discussion
off
till
then.
H
So
with
that,
do
you
need
a
motion
then.
K
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
get
clarity
on
the
timing.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
the
urgency
of
of
having
having
it,
you
know,
I
and
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
any
Outreach
to
others
in
the
community
as
this
thing
came
forward.
K
So
I
was
just
curious
about
you
know
when,
when
we
need
to
have
this
by
it
sounded
from
council
member
Foley's
she'd
rather
have
it
earlier,
rather
than
later
and
I,
don't
know
how
the
budgeting
schedule
goes
in
June
if
it
goes
all
the
way
through
the
last
yes,
oh,
okay.
Well,
thank
you,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
understand
the
urgency
of
having
this
in
place.
L
L
The
they've
been
around
for
a
while
they're
and
been
considered
by
the
board
for
a
while
and
I'm
sure.
The
board
member
can
provide
more
background
on
that.
L
The
the
non-profit
exemption
started
with
a
review
by
the
city
Auditor
in
2017.,
and
it
was
recommended
that
that
go
to
the
board
the
board
looked
at
it
and
and
considered
it
and
then,
along
with
some
other
things
over
time,
was
making
recommendations.
So
some
of
these
are
have
been
around
for
quite
some
time
and
it's
just
been
a
matter
of
getting
them
collected
and
brought
forward
another
one
of
them
addresses
amounts
that
candidates
can
loan
to
their
campaign
committees
and
a
change.
That's
recommended
there.
L
I
don't
know
that
may
be
effect.
The
timing
may
be
important
on
that,
because
it's
going
to
take
30
days
for
an
ordinance
to
go
into
effect.
We
have
to
have
a
second
reading
and
then
wait
30
days,
and
so
there
may
be
some
issues
with
that.
Also
Lee
may
know
more,
but
those
are
some
of
the
considerations
so.
I
I
was
just
going
to
ask
to
help
I
think,
obviously,
with
the
election
cycle
next
year
being
changed
to
March
fundraising
obligations
in
the
time
start
in
August,
so
election
things
would
need
to
move
forward
now,
but
I
think
to
the
vice
mayor's
question.
Does
the
revolving
door
and
non-profit
thing
have
a
date
for
which
it
needs
to
go
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year?.
L
And
I
would
I
would
defer
to
the
board
to
some
extent,
but
I
don't
think
there
is
a
intermediate
timing
issue
on
it
other
than
these
are
things
they
considered
quite
a
while
ago
and
and
wanted
brought
forward
so,
but
that
does
not
have
the
same
urgency
August
countdown.
If
you
will
yeah.
K
No,
that's
understandable,
and
you
know,
I
could
also
understand
that
you
know
if
it's.
If
it's
been
around
for
a
while,
and
you
know
it
just
hasn't,
come
to
us.
That's
why
I
asked
about
the
urgency.
K
I
could
understand
the
urgency
on
the
fundraising
part,
because
that
will
happen
in
August
and
you
do
need
the
30
days
and
all
of
that
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
would
be
consideration
on
you
know,
sort
of
like
separating
the
two
and
allowing
at
least
the
ability
for
those
who
would
be
either
affected
by
this,
or
have
that
you
know
sort
of
that.
They'd
want
to
to
to
participate
in
in
giving
us
further
thoughts
on
it
and
I.
L
And
and
vice
mayor,
obviously,
rules
can
decide
when
it's
going
to
come
forward
or
if
you
want
to
bring
part
of
it
forward
now
and
part
of
it
defer
it
for
another
date.
That's
that's
up
to
the
committee.
B
So
I
I
was
going
to
suggest
also,
since
our
board
members
with
us
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
their
rationale
for
the
recommendations
and
what
they
think
the
the
timeline
should
be
and
whether
there's
any
urgency
just
to
get
the
input
from
the
board.
M
Okay,
I've
just
brought
Tom
Pavel
over
as
a
panelist,
so
Tom
you
can
go
ahead.
Q
Hello,
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
okay,
this
is
this
is
Tom
Pavel
I
wasn't
prepared
just
for
speaking
today,
but
so
I
think
overall
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
particular
urgency
from
our
end
on
the
non-profit
issue.
I
think
it's
as
described
as
sort
of
part
of
a
biannual
cycle
of
a
collection
of
revisions
that
it's
part
of
the
charge
of
our
board,
to
bring
suggestions
for
revisions
to
the
municipal
code
and
so
forth.
Q
Was
the
other
question
was
framing
the
overall.
B
Set
of
yeah
I
mean
that
was
kind
of
my
question.
I
I
have
some,
has
I,
have
some
uneasiness
about
the
non-profit
recommendation
in
general
and
was
curious
if
you
wanted
to
provide
any
context
for
that
or
wanted
to
wait
until
we
have
a
further
Council
discussion
to
to
add
that
context.
But
that
might
be
helpful
to
hear
the
rationale
from
the.
Q
Committee,
so
this
one
mostly
predates
my
tenure
on
the
board,
which
has
been
only
a
year
but
I
think
the
idea
was
to
make
equivalent
the
restrictions
on
lobbyists,
whether
they
be
for-profits
or
non-profits,
particularly
with
you
know,
political
action,
non-profit
political
action
committees
and
such
you
know,
so
it
seemed
to
be
fair
to
apply
the
same
criteria
for
whether
it's
a
profit,
business
or
non-profit
business.
If
they
have
lobbying
before
the
the
city
council.
B
R
Q
R
and
just
to
clarify
the
the
reason
behind
the
recommendation
is
that
this
was
an
audit
of
open
government
and
we
were
looking
at
some
of
the
lobbyists
disclosures
and
some
of
the
revolving
door
pieces
and
what
we
found
was
in
the
municode
that
non-prop
and
individual
codes
work
for
a
non-profit
and
I
want
to
be
clear
that
when
we're
talking
about
working
for
them,
it's
only
in
situations
where
someone
leaves
City
employment
to
Lobby
to
work
on
legislative
or
administered
matters
that
directly
relate
to
their
work.
While
they
were
with
the
city.
R
R
I
R
Just
repeat:
if
someone
left
to
work
for
an
organization
where
that
was
receiving
city
funding,
they
were
exempt
from
the
revolving
door
and
it's
under
those
circumstances
where
they're
going
to
work
in
a
situation,
either
lobbying
or
administrative
matters
directly
rated
their
former
employment
they're
exempt
if
they
received
funding
or
if
the
nonprofit
receive
funding,
but
they
had
their
seek
a
revolent
or
waiver
if
it
was
a
non-profit
that
did
not
receive
city
funding.
So
that
was
the
purpose
of
the
recommendation
and
that's
that's.
What
would
get
cleared
up.
B
Okay,
well,
thank
you
for
the
clarification
and
and
and
trickle
was
an
operative
word
in
there
as
well.
It's
taken
a
while
to
get
back
to
council
before
I
know.
Councilman
Mendes
has
a
hands
up,
I'll
go
to
him
in
a
second.
B
My
feeling
is
that
that
it's
reasonable
for
us
today
to
move
this
forward
just
for
the
sake
of
discussion
and
thinking
about
it
and
then
having
time
you
know,
within
whatever
Brown
act
groups,
we
all
have
to
discuss
what
we
think
makes
sense
and
doesn't
and
bring
recommendations
or
a
recommendation
to
defer
part
of
it
that
we
think
might
need
to
defer.
But
we
can
do
that
at
the
council
meeting
in
two
weeks
as
well.
That's
how
I
think
about
it!
But
anyway,
now
we'll
hear
what
councilman
hermanus
has.
C
To
say,
I
was
going
to
say
the
exact
same
thing:
yeah,
no
meaning
that
you
know
we
can
come
before
us
if,
if
at
that
time
we
hear
something
that
maybe
you
get
a
a
you
know,
sea
of
non-profit
sort
of
folks
saying
we
didn't
have
enough
time
to
vet
this-
that
we
can
at
that
time.
If
we
choose
to
defer
a
portion
of
this
and
have
that
discussion
later,
but
some
of
the
election
related
stuff
campaign
related
stuff,
I
think
is
I,
think
you
have
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
cancer
or
Foley.
C
C
B
L
L
It
stems
from
a
memo
that
the
rules
committee
approved
directing
my
office
to
return
to
the
council
with
an
ordinance
that
would
address
the
definition
of
candidate
in
the
San
Jose
Municipal
Code,
the
set
some
rules
for
candidate
controlled
committees.
In
reality,
the
title
12
refers
to
controlled
committees
and
changing
the
definition
of
candidate
to
include
electeds
current
electeds
as
well
as
candidates
and
staff,
and
it
aligns
that
definition
with
the
State
political
reform
act.
L
For
whatever
reason
the
definition
of
candidate
and
we've
not
been
able
to
determine
why
that
happened
and
think
it
think
we
think
it
may
have
just
been
a
mistake
when,
when
in
the
drafting
initially,
because
everything
else
seems
to
follow
the
State
political
reform
act,
but
the
definition
of
candidate
does
not,
and
so
it's
led
to
some
issues
over
the
last
few
years.
So
it
would
change
the
definition
of
candidate
to
align
with
the
state
political
reform
act.
L
That
would
then
affect
controlled
committees
which
are
in
essence,
candidate,
controlled
committees,
and
it
would
clarify
once
the
definition
of
candidate
is
changed,
that
candidate
controlled
committees
includes
both
direct
and
indirect
control
by
a
candidate
or
an
elected
official,
and
then
this
also
contains
a
revolving
door
piece,
and
this
piece
would
have
a
one-year
prohibition
on
former
city
officers
and
staff
from
working
on
Independent
expenditure
committees
following
termination
with
the
city.
That
was
also
part
of
the
direction
that
came
last
November
through
the
memo
that
came
two
rules
from
council
member
Esparza.
L
We
we
attempted
and
I
and
I,
want
to
be
clear
that
this
is
addressing
not
every
independent
expenditure
committee
that
might
be
based
in
the
city
or
have
interests
on
a
city,
election
items.
It's
addressed
to
candidate
controlled
committees,
and
there
are
there.
There
is
the
the
allowance
for
electeds
to
use
campaign
contributions
to
be
given
to
expenditure
committees
and
that
that's
allowed.
But
what
we're?
L
What
we
we
were
asked
to
do
is
apply
the
city's
contribution,
time
frames
and
contribution
limits
to
those
to
the
monies
that
are
going
from
the
sitting
elected
or
the
candidate
to
the
independent
expenditure
committee.
So
it
doesn't,
as
I
say
it
doesn't
affect
every
independent
expenditure
Committee
in
the
city,
but
it's
just
those
candidate,
controlled
committees
the
that
what
we
there
is
an
issue.
L
Some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
the
decisions
sought
by
former
mayor
Reed
from
a
superior
court
in
Sacramento
when
he
wanted
to
use
some
money
that
he
had
sitting
in
his
campaign
account
and
and
give
it
to
an
expenditure
committee.
That
was
a
decision
by
a
superior
court
in
Sacramento.
It
was
never
appealed.
L
L
The
state
also
appears
to
indicate
that
any
local
campaign
contribution
rules
can
be
applied
to
the
scenario,
and
so
that's
that's
how
this
is
drafted
but,
as
I
think
you
all
know,
there
are
also.
L
Ongoing
changes
at
the
federal
level
on
particularly
on
expenditures
and
and
limitations
on
expenditures,
but
this
is
really
a
limitation
on,
since
the
money
is
coming
from
the
elected's
account
and
or
the
elect
the
campaign
account.
If
you
will,
these
aren't
office.
Holder
accounts.
These
are
campaign,
accounts
and
and
they're
subject
to
the
city's
rules
anyway,
in
terms
of
when
you
can
start
raising
money
and
how
much
you
can
raise.
L
So
that's
the
it
it's
tough
sledding
I
know,
but
that's
the
the
gist
of
what
we
were
asked
to
do
and
we've
attempted
to
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
with
the
request
and
also
consistent
with
the
law.
G
Hi
Blair
Beekman
here
boy,
I
I
lack
a
very
serious
amount
of
depth
on
these
issues.
So,
on
my
previous
item,
I
think
more
spoke
to
this
item
and
but
still
I,
you
know
I
I
boy
I
did
not
do
very
well
to
to
cause.
You
bring
out
a
fruit
from
this
item.
How
to
better
talk
about
it.
I
can
talk
about
it
in
terms
of
the
importance
of
the
participatory
process,
and
that
should
make
the
candidate
process
available
more
in
the
future.
G
People
who
it's
not
currently
available
to
be
important
goals
and
I
I,
don't
quite
know
if
this
item
is
is
working
towards
that
or
not,
and
on
the
previous
item.
Our
non-profit
system
has
such
a
way
of
working.
That
I
think
most
many
were
pretty
satisfied
with
it
and
I
hope
you
it.
G
It
won't
have
to
you're
trying
to
Define
things
that
I
hope
you're
you're,
just
looking
you're,
not
looking
for
a
problem
to
find
a
solution
to
that,
there's
real
need
for
it
and
I
think
there's
also
a
sense
that
some
non-profits
do
really
important
could
work
already
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
mess
with
that
system.
I,
don't
think
I'm
guessing
this.
This
starts
I,
guess
and
I
hope,
I
hope
this
can
help
and
good
luck.
G
How
are
you
going
to
address
this
issue
again,
how
to
make
the
future
of
the
process
more
available
to
people
who
it's
not
available
to
now?
How
do
we
continuously
work
towards
those
sort
of
goals?
If
this
item
is
working
towards
that?
That,
hopefully,
can
be
a
good
guide
marker
for
yourself.
Thank
you.
O
Members
of
the
committee-
you
know
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
attorney's
office,
for
their
work
on
this
issue
would
encourage
the
committee
to
vote
to
place
it
onto
the
agenda
for
the
23rd.
So
as
I
think
many
folks
on
committee
have
stated
already
we
can
review
and
vote
on
this
and
hopefully
have
it
in
place
before
the
fundraising
period
Begins
for
the
March
primary.
O
There
are
a
couple
issues:
I
I,
think
technical
issues
that
are
worth
considering
as
as
Council
takes
this
item
up
on
the
23rd
one
being
making
sure.
Now
that
we've
taken
the
time
to
look
to
the
political
reform
act
and
how
we
Define
a
candidate
control
committees.
You
know
that
we're
also
perhaps
looking
to
the
political
reformat
and
how
we
Define
agent.
O
You
know
I
think
it's
important
for
our
city
to
maintain
the
highest
of
Standards
when
it
comes
to
open
government-
and
you
know,
ethics
and
strong
campaign,
Finance
laws
making
sure
that
we're
we're
really
holding
ourselves
to
a
higher
standard
that
you
know
both
for
candidates,
current
city
officials
and
their
staff,
that
we
are
considering
how
how
we
apply
this
framework
and
so
we'll
be
providing
some
comments.
You
know
around.
O
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
properly
defining
agent
in
a
way
where
we
don't
have
additional
loopholes
to
how
how
this
is
implemented,
appreciate
all
the
work
by
staff
and,
as
I
said,
we'll
we'll
be
presenting
some
additional
comments
as
working
Partnerships?
Thank
you.
So
much.
F
You
also
entrepreneurship,
I,
I,
think
what's
being
challenged.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
commissioner
Pavel
for
chiming
in
and
especially
Joe
Royce.
You
guys
do
not
pay
him
enough.
I
suggest
a
pay
raise
for
a
city
auditor,
Joe,
Royce
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
work.
He
doesn't
take
one
side
or
another
he's
always
on
time
in
in
presenting
a
very
neutral,
very
objective
perspective
of
what
of
the
corruption
that's
going
on
in
our
city.
Now,
that's
not
opinion.
F
What
he's
doing
is
he's
putting
in
information
I
already
know,
but
I'm
not
on
the
inside,
that
really
tease
it
out,
and
so
that's
why
a
city
Auditor's
position
is
critically
important
from
The
public's
perspective.
Now
this
is
to
protect
our
ex-mayor
okay,
what
he,
because
what
he
did
with
that
common
good
sense
action
committee:
it's
a
bunch
of
attorneys
corrupting
language,
the
English
language
in
order
to
break
the
law
and
then,
when
they
get
busted,
they
just
change
the
law
because
they
have
the
power
to
do
that.
F
The
rest
of
us
they
chase
after
us
with
guns
and
handcuffs,
that's
what
they
do
now.
There's
this
basic
assumption
that
a
non-profit
is
moral,
that
is
ethical
and
is
never
ever
ever.
It
is
beyond
corruption,
there's
a
basic
assumption
that
needs
to
be
challenged
and
I'm
glad
that
it's
being
challenged
now,
because
the
Chicano
movement
articulated
it
beautifully
what
they
called
non-profits
poverty
Pips,
because
that's
what
they
do.
They
pimp
the
poverty.
F
That's
going
on
in
our
communities
under
the
auspices
that
they're
that
their
moral
and
ethical
Paragons
in
the
community
to
serve
the
community
when
in
actuality
they
are
corrupt.
In
the
very
new
call.
J
Yeah
Martha
O'connell
I
would
like
to
agree
with
the
last
part
of
the
last
speaker's
comments.
I
totally
agree
at
one
of
his
last
Council
meetings.
I
was
amused
when
Sam
licardo
referenced
the
expert
industrial,
complex
and
and
bemoaned
that
and
warned
people
about
it
and
I
thought.
Well.
Where
have
you
been
for
the
last
eight
years,
because
the
city
pays
way
too
much
money
to
these
experts
come
in
and
tell
them
what
to
do.
The
non-profits
are
lobbyists
pure
and
simple.
J
They
make
tons
of
money
the
people
that
run
these
non-profits.
Some
of
them
have
been
doing
this
for
their
entire
career.
They
make
great
big
fat
salaries
and
I
do
believe
that
many
of
them
make
their
living
off
the
social
problems
that
they
purport
to
address.
So
anything
that
is
going
to
bring
these
people
in
line
and
make
them
more
transparent.
I
am
in
favor
of
also
as
a
citizen
and
I
know.
J
Other
citizens
have
called
in
and
said
the
same
thing
I
deeply,
resent
that
somehow
the
doors
of
a
council
are
thrown
open
to
these
people
when
they
say
therefore
they're
representing
a
quote
non-profit
but
citizens.
The
ordinary
citizen
cannot
get
the
same
access
to
the
council,
so
these
these
things
are
not
non-profit,
they
are
political
lobbyists
and
many
many
of
them
are
making
their
living
off
the
woes
of
society
that
they
are
purporting
to
try
to
solve.
Thank
you.
B
C
L
I
I'm
not
sure
what
you're
thinking
about
in
terms
of
other
items,
if
they're
related
to
these
issues
or
variations
on
a
theme
with
these
issues,
that's
what's
coming
to
council,
if
it's,
if
it's
other
provisions
of
title
12,
that's
probably
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
okay
memo
and
the
direction
from
that
we
got
from
Rules
previously,
okay,.
C
All
right,
I
just
asked,
because
I'm
not
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
how
the
conversation
is
going
to
go,
but
I
I
think
there
there's
some
interest
that
I
have
and
some
sort
of
exploration
about
how
things
can
be
strengthened
in
title
12.
So
I
was
just
thinking
about
that,
but
thank
you
and
I'll
actually
move
approval.
B
B
All
right
motion
carries
five
zero.
Now
we're
on
to
open
forum.
G
Hi
we're
Beekman
here
thanks
for
the
meeting
today
interesting
items
of
this
tab.
Thank
you.
I
was
a
few
things
from
the
committee
meeting
this
morning
about
the
budget
issues.
My
my
zoom
is
getting
cut
off.
I
would
try
to
mention
again
the
importance
of
mixed
income
ideas
and
that
by
2029
we've
been
going
to
be
mandated
to
work
on
the
issues.
Why
not
work
on
the
issues
now?
G
It
does
really
interesting,
flexible,
good
things,
Cooperative
things
that
I
hope
you
can
really
want
to
take
the
heart
and
learn
how
to
start
talking
about
the
subject
now
and
just
talking
about
it
just
gets
things
going
and
we
don't
have
to
do
anything,
but
it
just
gets
things
going.
Good
luck!
How
to
do
that?
G
What
else
did
I
want
to
mention?
I
had
a
few
other
items,
I
can't
remember
so
I
guess,
I'll
go
on
to
my
main
point
of
today.
Oh
I
wanted
to
mention
dumpster
day
issues,
so
very
much
of
a
thank
you
that
in
living
in
San
Diego
these
days,
I've
been
learning
the
importance
of
how
they
talk
about
their
unhoused
issues.
They
want
to
create
good
communication
in
San.
Jose
was
talked
about
yesterday.
How
to
work
towards
ideas
of
trust.
G
The
dumpster
day,
issues
I
think,
is
a
great
way
on
a
Saturday
to
be
a
real
Cooperative
effort
to
bring
all
parts
of
the
community
together.
It's
been
a
really
good
service
for
Santa
Fe
for
a
number
of
years,
San
Diego
was
mentioning
you
know,
they're
saying
they
have
a
really
great
way
to
do
those
sort
of
things,
and
they
want
to
emulate
that
in
San.
G
Jose,
good
luck
on
how
to
really
work
on
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
with
my
remaining
time
20
seconds
21
seconds,
Paul
got
cut
off
yesterday,
offering
a
bit
of
a
strong
words
to
housing,
director,
Jackie,
Moran
and
and
that
comments
need
to
be
directed
towards
the
board
and
which
I
totally
agree
and
find
the
good
decorum.
But
there
are
ground
act,
ideas
that
I
hope
we
can
better
address
about
that
in
the
future.
Thanks.
F
Apostle
from
the
Horseshoe
page
199
from
the
devil
in
Silicon,
Valley,
conquest
and
migration
elicited
unsavory
responses
from
many
San
Jose
and
Californians
ought
to
be
held
accountable
for
their
often
violent
treatment
of
Mexican
Americans
from
1850s
forward.
Matters
of
history
and
memory
have
taken
on
new
importance
as
growing
numbers
of
Latinos
throughout
the
United
States
argue
for
their
political
and
economic
rights,
visions
of
History
guide,
Progressive
movements
for
change,
although
none
today
can
claim
to
remember
the
early
starts
of
the
new
Alma
did
mines
and
I
interviewed
in
Valley
homes.
F
F
Too,
ready
to
promote
no
scratch
that
ethnic
Mexicans
have
clung
for
generations
to
their
own
counter,
narratives
that
explain
their
place
in
local
society
and
drawing
attention
to
past
Farm
labor
and
can
rework
some
continue
to
contest
official
narratives
of
silicon
Valley's
development
residents,
who
had
been
activists
in
the
Chicano
movement
of
the
1960s
and
70s,
have
recently
led
a
charge
urging
the
city
to
pay
greater
care
to
latinu
history
I'm,
a
son
of
the
Chicano
movement.
That
is
why
I'm
here
and
I
am
thankful
for
the
city
auditor
George
Royce.
J
Yeah
hi,
Martha,
O'connell,
something's
happening
something's
happening
here,
I
think
that's
a
line
from
some
rock
song
of
a
while
ago,
but
there's
something
that's
been
happening.
That
is
very
chilling
and
very
disturbing
to
me.
I
studied
a
year
I
studied
Judaism.
For
a
year
when
I
was
considering
converting
I
did
my
Master's
thesis
on
German
fascism
and
I
have
been
to
off
switch
and
back
out
and
also
the
museum
of
Terror
in
Hungary,
and
it
is
very
troubling
to
me.
J
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
comments
have
been
made,
calling
out
a
council
member
as
a
Jewish
white
man.
This
should
be
totally
unacceptable
in
our
society
and
in
our
city,
and
yet
it
has
it
happened
today
and
it's
happened
on
other
occasions.
So
I
wish
to
speak
out
against
that.
It
is
extremely
offensive
and
I
think
we
need
to
stop
this
ranking
of
ethnicities.
J
My
people
suffered
more
than
your
people
or
you
don't
have
any
right
to
speak
on
the
subject,
because
you're
white
or
you're
Jewish
or
whatever
the
category
is
I,
think
across
the
board.
People
need
to
be
respected
and
no
one
should
have
to
apologize
for
being
Jewish
white,
male
or
whatever.
It
is
I've
actually
heard
a
speaker
who
speaks
frequently
at
these
meetings
about
a
year
ago,
apologized
for
being
quote
white
and
saying
that
he
didn't
feel
comfortable
talking
on
the
topic.