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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of January 26, 2022
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D
Okay,
thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
I
just
want
to
remind
the
council
and
and
what
the
issue
is
before
you
today,
because
this
has
gone
on
over
a
number
of
sessions
under
the
california
public
records
act.
California,
government
code,
section
6254,
f
body,
worn
camera
footage,
is
a
record
of
investigation,
that's
exempt
from
disclosure
and
cannot
be
released
to
the
public
unless
requested
by
the
victim
of
a
crime
or
the
exemption
is
waived.
D
E
E
So
as
such
with
no
qualifying
evidence
and
our
attempts
as
a
police
department
to
obtain
information
from
the
gun
shop
directly
in
oregon
have
been
unsuccessful.
We
cannot
meet
the
legal
standard
to
establish
a
crime
or
to
prove
that
a
crime
had
had
occurred
at
this
point
with
that
said,
you
know
it
is
not
uncommon
for
law
enforcement
to
coordinate
with
a
member
of
the
public,
including
any
possible
victim
to
assist
with
their
respective
investigations.
E
So
we
can
move
forward
with
additional
information
if
and
when
we
are
able
to
obtain
that
information.
But
at
this
point
we
do
not
meet
the
legal
threshold
to
move
forward,
as
norah
has
said
so
with
that.
I
know
that
nora
and
I
deputy
chief
washburn
and
lieutenant
donahue
are
here
for
any
questions
you
might
have.
F
Thank
you
for
that
also
from
horseshoe
respectfully.
There
is
a
public
interest
here,
because
when
an
officer
is
wearing
a
body,
worn
camera,
that's
the
eyes
of
the
public.
That's
why
we've
got
it
there.
The
only
reason
why
they
have
it.
There
is
those
eyes
that
are
looking
at
the
scene
are
the
publics,
so
the
department
doesn't
really
have
authority
over
that.
Nor
does
the
law,
because
we've
already
established
that
that
is
required
on
their
uniform
to
record
all
interactions.
F
So
there
is
a
public
interest
here,
number
two
councilwoman
arenas
when
we
were
at
that
pispis
meeting,
where
the
police
department
called
the
cops
on
me
when
I
was
a
victim
we
established
at
that
point
and
you
can
reference
for
this
conversation
licardo's
input.
What
lecardo
said
is
that
we
must
at
best
time
accept
what
the
person
states
is
true,
okay,
so
that
you
charge
it
as
a
crime
right
there
on
the
scene.
Let
the
district
attorney
determine
that
that
is
not
up
to
the
officer
at
that
time.
F
If
the
person
is
saying
that
they
committed
a
crime
with
the
metoo
movement
to
meet
the
premise
for
the
metoo
movement
was
to
believe
everything
that
she
says:
absolutely
everything.
So
that
means
that
the
officer
at
that
point
is
it's
incumbent
upon
him
to
charge.
Let
the
district
attorney
determine
that
not
him,
but
because
there's
an
interest.
I
want
to
know
who
that
dude
is.
This
dude
is
somebody
he
is
a
somebody
because
you
guys
are
protecting
me.
F
I
have
at
least
five
of
these
domestic
violence
non
non
contact
orders,
so
I
know
what's
in
them
and
I
know
what's
produced
in
court.
So
if
anybody
wants
some
information
about
that,
I'm
an
expert,
an
expert
on
what
can
be
done.
What
can't
be
done
with
those
kinds
of
orders?
I'm
not
ashamed
of
it,
because
I
paid
for
everything
that
I've
ever
done.
But
what
I'm
saying
is
there's
a
public
interest
here
and
I
demand
I
demand
that
it
be
turned
over
because
your
depart.
F
G
Obviously
that
was
a
crime
right
on
you
know
that
body
cam
was
released
pretty
pretty
quickly.
So
I
think
that's
where
part
of
the
confusion
comes
from,
and
basically
that
that's
where
I'm
confused
at.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
lady
is
protected.
That's
the
primary
thing
right.
That
should
be
the
number
one
thing
anyways.
Thank
you.
B
H
Hi
boyd
beekman
here
happy
wednesday,
happy
meeting
to
everyone
public
meeting
nora,
said
at
the
beginning
this
item
that
there's
a
certain
degree
that
a
discretion
can
be
used
in
decision
making.
Thank
you
for
saying
that
those
weren't
exact
her
exact
words,
but
hopefully
that
can
be
respected
as
needed.
Thank
you
that
lee
said
you
are
trying
to
build
a
case
towards
he
did
purchase
a
gun,
so
you
know
things
are
in
going
in
a
good
direction.
H
I
I
hope,
there's
a
sense
of
healing
to
all
of
these
questions
and
that
the
couple
can
can
really
learn
to
heal
themselves.
As
we're
trying
to
ask
these
questions,
I
know
that
the
plaintiff
really
wants
this
for
her
own
admission
and
she
should
you
know
I
isn't
there
something
like
client
lawyer,
privilege
that
kind
of
circumvents
and
doesn't
have
to
work
directly
with.
Then
it
becomes
full
public
availability.
H
There
should
be
a
certain
client
privilege
that
you
know
police
are
in
attendance
within
the
same
meeting
and
they
can
view
the
the
film
the
body
cam
footage
together,
and
that
way
it
doesn't
have
to
become
public
footage,
and
that
offers
a
bit
of
what
norris
said
at
the
beginning
as
options
to
do
at
this
time.
I
think
it
may
not
be
a
crime,
but
is
this
a
male
person
a
threat?
I
mean
that's
another
consideration
and
why
I
also
mentioned
healing:
does
this?
You
know
this?
A
I
Thank
you.
My
name
is
cindy
hunter
and
I'm
with
next
door
solutions
to
domestic
violence.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
amanda
gould
will
be
able
to
read
a
statement
from
catherine
after
the
public
comment.
We
respectfully
request
that
she's
able
to
read
the
statement
that
she
had
prepared
and
also
blair
just
mentioned,
allowing
catherine
to
watch
the
footage.
That
was
another
recommendation
that
next
door
solutions
had
put
forward
was
not
handing
the
footage
over
to
catherine
per
se,
but
just
allowing
her
to
view
it
with
her
support.
J
I'm
I'm
sure,
you're,
well
aware
that
myself,
my
team,
our
board
of
directors,
are
committed
to
ending
violence
in
our
community
in
the
moment
and
for
all
time,
we're
here
today
hopeful
that
catherine
will
be
able
to
have
her
requests,
met
we
reached
out
to
chief
mata
and
to
robert
lang
lieutenant
robert
lang
and
asked
she
simply
wants
to
see
the
footage
with
you
so
that
you
can
see
for
yourself
what
went
on
and
she
wants
to
share
how
it
affected
her.
This
would
go
a
long
way
in
helping
the
department
figure
out.
J
What
do
we
as
leadership
support
in
terms
of
the
culture
of
how
our
officers
are
behaving
out
on
these
calls
for
service?
It's
not
an
unreasonable
request.
It's
extremely
untrauma-informed!
What
we
have
put
this
poor
woman
through
what
we
have
also
expended
in
terms
of
our
staff
time,
to
make
sure
we
stand
with
her
that
she
gets
what's
rightfully
coming
to
her.
J
So,
at
a
time
where
we're
celebrating
you
know
the
historic
gun
safety
ordinance
that
passed
last
night
at
a
time
where
the
city's
examining
reimagining
public
safety,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
do
the
right
thing,
so
we
are
hopeful.
We
are
depending
on
your
leadership
and
your
courage
and
regardless
of
the
outcome,
we
will
be
here
to
continue
to
stand
with
survivors
and
work
with
the
city
of
san
jose
to
make
sure
we
address
domestic
violence
and
keep
our
families
safe.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
questions
of
my
own,
but
I
did
want
to
start
with
reading
a
statement
written
by
catherine
reichenbach.
That
she's
asked
that
I
read
on
her
behalf,
so
I'm
going
to
start
by
reading
that
it
feels
like
the
bar
has
consistently
been
changed
and
the
wording
manipulated
to
protect
large
entities
and
deny
the
right
of
the
individual.
K
I
am
a
survivor
of
domestic
violence
and
I
got
a
restraining
order
because
I
deeply
feared
for
my
safety
and
the
lives
of
myself
and
my
children.
I
made
this
police
report
because
a
dvro
violation
had
taken
place
that
made
me
fear
for
my
safety
and
was
dismissed
by
an
aggressive
and
disrespectful
officer.
K
This
officer,
then
even
came
back
to
my
house
unannounced
at
night,
a
month
after
I
made
the
complaint
against
him,
causing
me
additional
fear,
a
knock
on
my
door
at
night
by
an
unknown
person
when
my
husband
has
been
buying
and
assembling
guns,
understandably
caused
me
to
be
even
more
afraid
this
whole
time.
I
just
wanted
accountability
and
an
acknowledgement
of
the
horrible
way
I
was
treated
by
this
officer
and
a
commitment
to
change
for
future
survivors
seeking
safety.
K
Instead,
I've
had
my
privacy
violated,
I've
had
to
relive
a
traumatic
event,
multiple
times
I've
had
lies,
and
misinformation
told
about
me
in
this
public
forum.
This
result
doesn't
reflect
what
is
morally
right,
but
despite
the
outcome,
I
hope
that
this
appeal
remains
in
our
thoughts
and
hearts,
and
we
can
reflect
on
what
we
say.
We
value
as
a
society
and
what
we
practice.
K
K
But
what
life
is
it
when
you
have
no
rights
and
your
victimhood
can
be
publicly
debated
and
your
privacy
is
not
respected,
because
in
order
to
get
any
assistance,
you
have
to
relive
your
trauma
and
pray
that
the
person
listening
to
you
believes
you
and
has
the
authority
to
even
help
you
every
opportunity
for
help
and
support
is
needed
for
a
victim
of
domestic
violence,
to
find
the
strength
and
determination
to
face
the
isolating
and
victim-shaming
cultures
that
are
weaved
into
our
laws.
Family,
courts,
police
responses
and
even
our
communities.
K
Had
these
appeals
not
taken
place.
San
jose
would
not
have
known
about
the
failures
of
the
klexa
stem
and
would
not
even
be
aware
of
this
type
of
police
response
for
survivors
that
is
not
isolated.
Just
under
reported
without
this
appeal,
police
would
have
been
able
to
cross
out
the
dvro
violation
written
on
the
incident
reports
and
hand
over
the
unregulated
code
for
speaking
to
a
civilian
and
not
a
survivor
begging
for
the
restraining
orders
given
to
her
to
be
used
to
protect
her
and
her
children's
safety.
K
Regardless.
I'm
grateful
for
the
support
of
nextdoor,
who
has
appealed
for
me
in
many
circumstances,
in
order
to
access
records
that
I
was
told
didn't
exist
like
my
first
report
and
for
them
being
the
first
place
to
actually
listen
to
me
in
my
words,
and
give
me
the
voice
and
credibility
I
didn't
have
on
my
own.
K
I've
never
been
silent.
I've
just
been
silenced
and
failed
many
times
over,
despite
doing
my
best
on
my
own
to
do
what
I
believe
is
right.
I'm
also
very
grateful
for
those
equally
as
outraged
at
how
this
appeal
played
out
in
the
public
setting
and
for
those
representatives
that
believed
me
and
that
I
had
rights
that
were
not
considered
or
protected
in
this
forum.
K
I
understand
humanity
and
error.
I
understand
mistakes
can
happen
at
any
level,
but
when
it's
often
and
everywhere
it
isn't
much
of
a
mistake
as
much
as
it
is
a
pattern
and
when
an
error
on
paper
or
in
the
field
is
made
that
employee
can
go
home
to
live
their
lives
while
that
missed
opportunity
may
be
life
or
death
for
the
person
begging
to
be
heard
and
supported.
K
As
coral
anika
thiel
said,
a
victim's
first
scream
is
for
help.
A
victim's
second
scream
is
for
justice
and
hope
that
cry
is
finally
heard,
and
we
challenge
ourselves
to
do
what's
right
and
not
just
what's
convenient.
Let
change
begin
with
us
here
in
san
jose
and
let
us
not
pretend
what
is
broken
is
already
fixed.
We
don't
need
perfection
to
respond
better
and
even
the
small
steps
taken
create
bigger
and
better
changes
for
our
futures
and
our
children.
K
Yes,
I
had
two
questions.
My
first
is:
there
were
three
reports
of
the
same
incident.
There
was
the
initial
report
that
was
not
taken
when
catherine
called
the
police.
There
was
the
follow-up
report
I
made
with
her
in
the
office
the
next
day
and
there
was
the
officer
showing
unannounced
at
her
door.
K
I
want
clarification
on
what
documentation
has
like,
which
report
has
a
documentation
be
obtained
from
for
the
receipts
for
the
gun
purchases?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
all
the
evidence
has
actually
been
received.
There's
also
been
the
correspondence
with
the
central
point
police
department
on
their
investigation
as
well.
B
B
L
Yes,
sir
I'll
take
a
look
and
and
lieutenant
lang
or
or
chief
washburn,
you
might
have
better
info
if
I
mess
this
up,
but
it
I
believe
the
first
case
number
that
when
the
officer
came
to
your
house
the
first
time
that
was
an
event
number
and
didn't
have
a
report
attached
so
I'll.
Give
you.
That
number
is
that
what
you're
asking
for
the
the
case
number.
K
M
Rob
can
you
jump
in
there
and
try
to
answer
this
question
I
mean
my
understanding
is
when
the
detective
sergeant
and
family
violence
reviewed
the
case.
They
reviewed
all
reports
submitted
associated
to
the
original
complaint,
an
incident
number
despite
the
fact
that
a
report
was
not
written
the
first
time.
Can
you
just
please
verify.
L
Yes,
chief,
that's
100
correct,
so
the
first
incident
when
a
report
was
not
written
that
information
and
then
when
the
report
was
written,
was
all
combined
into
the
the
actual,
the
first
report,
so
the
second
contact
all
of
that
was
written
together.
The
third
one
that
she's
mentioning
was
the
event
that
occurred
later.
That's
not
the
event
that
we're
talking
about
today.
That
would
be
involving
the
body-worn
camera
that
we're
discussing.
K
Yeah,
I'm
wondering-
and
I
did
reach
out
to
a
deputy
chief
washburn
as
well
as
leonora,
to
address
this,
but
the
central
point,
police
department
did
obtain
evidence
of
the
purchases
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
followed
up
on,
and
I
did
also
want
to
ask
if
there
is
an
option
for
this
footage
to
be
released
publicly
instead
of
just
to
the
client.
And
if
so,
if
that
is
an
option,
can
she
be
given
time
to
think
about
the
ramifications
that
might
have
for
her.
M
Yeah
I'll
let
the
city
manager's
office,
answer
that
second
question
amanda,
but
lieutenant
lane.
Are
you
privy
to
any
information
related
to
central
point,
oregon,
sharing
back
physical
evidence
related
to
our
specific
case,
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
separate
case
that
central
point
oregon
is
investigating
regarding
items
that
were
found
up
at
the
property
again
that
that
case
is
completely
bifurcated
from
our
investigation.
M
L
We
have
the
evidence
that
we
have
are
the
the
credit
card,
receipts,
etc
that
were
turned
over
to
us.
That's
what
we're
investigating,
if
central
point
does
have
anything,
that's
related
to
a
new
event,
different
from
what
we're
looking
for
for
the
body-worn
camera
and
that
investigation
is
being
held
up
there
by
them.
To
my
knowledge,
they
don't
have
any
of
our
evidence
from
us.
We
have
turned
over
the
information
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
requester
in
this
incident.
E
E
D
Yes,
that's
correctly,
and
that
would
result
from
the
committee
deciding
today
to
grant
the
appeal
and
release
the
video
and
should
that
occur
it
would
be
have
to
be
a
public
release.
At
this
point
there
was
a
question
about
whether
or
not
it
could
just
be
viewed
by
her
and
the
we've
considered
that
I
thought
that
might
be
a
possibility.
D
At
one
point
also,
I
think
I
discussed
that
with
amanda,
but
we've
confirmed
that
under
the
public
records
act,
just
like
we
don't
slide
documents
across
a
table
for
someone
to
see
if
they've
made
a
public
records
act,
but
in
an
effort
to
not
have
the
document
be
public.
If
you
will
that
doesn't
work.
If,
if
we
allow
a
release
to
someone
in
the
public,
then
it's
a
release
to
everyone
in
the
public,
so.
K
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
know.
Catherine
would
definitely
need
some
time
to
consider
if
this
is
her
only
option
and
she
can't
be
given
it
privately,
whether
or
not
she
would
be
willing
to
go
that
route
since
it
does
put
her
privacy
at
great
risk
nora.
I
do
have
a
follow-up
question
which
to
circle
back
to
what
cindy
brought
up
in
the
public
comment.
Cindy
hunter
from
nextdoor
does
catherine
have
the
legal
protection
of
a
victim
and
be,
and
therefore
be
entitled
to
that
body.
D
K
N
That
being
the
case,
that
we
would
very
much
like
to
see
the
written
report
form
from
the
second
encounter,
because
it
will
incorporate
the
two.
So
while
the
we
believe,
obviously
that
the
body
cam
footage
is
relevant,
that
the
body
can
footage
should
be
turned
over,
we
should
be
able
to
see
it.
Without
a
doubt.
N
We
should
be
able
to
have
access
to
that
written
report
which
is
related
to
the
second
case
number
and
incorporates
the
first
time
that
an
officer
came
to
the
house
and
they
returned
to
the
san
jose
police
department.
I
believe
is
probably
the
second
case
number
and
without
a
doubt
that
written
report
should
be
turned
over
to
us,
and
I
think
that
then
gives
everyone
an
opportunity
to
go
forward
with
the
question
here
about
whether
we,
whether
the
body
cam
footage,
then
is
relevant.
N
M
L
Unfortunately,
the
police
report's
going
to
fall
under
the
very
same
rule
government
rules
of
government
could
in
6254
f
that
govern
the
body-worn
camera
that
we're
discussing
today,
so
we'll
fall
under
the
same
thing.
However,
with
the
police
report,
we're
able
to
provide
a
synopsis
of
it
to
the
public,
so,
theoretically,
making
this
request
you,
you
would
be
provided
a
synopsis
of
the
event
that
is
composed
by
our
records
division,
but
not
the
actual
report.
Unless
that
report
is
made
public
or
your
party
to
that
event,
which
is
the
whole
reason
we're
here
today.
L
So
after
this
somehow
you
and
I
should
connect
and
I'll
get
your
information
for
the
public
records
act,
request
just
to
make
it
official
get
all
the
information
in
the
system
just
to
record
it.
And
then
the
committee
can
make
that
decision
on
whether
or
not
to
release
that
police
report.
At
the
same
time
to
make
the
decision
for
the
body-worn
camera.
N
N
N
That
was,
it
was
part
of
proposition
nine
that
established
those
things
so
where
I
think
we
need
to
to
go
with
this
discussion
is
point
one:
do
we
consider
catherine
r
a
victim
if
she's
a
victim,
then
she
has
definitely
additional
rights
as
opposed
to
anyone,
who's
just
walking
down
the
street
and
who
files
a
public
records
act?
Do
they?
Maybe
they
find
one
of
those
little
orange
cards
and
say:
oh
gee,
I'll
just
fill
out
a
public
records
act
and
ask
and
find
out
what
this
is.
N
N
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayfield.
So
first
of
all
I
want
to
say-
and
it's
been
recognized
and
amanda
on
behalf
of
catherine
spoke
to
this-
that
you
know
the
process
is
not
geared
for
this
type
of
appeal
and
it
there's
been
a
commitment
from
the
city
to
evaluate
the
process
and
figure
out
a
better
way
to
handle
these
types
of
appeals.
B
As
far
as
the
actual
appeal
is
concerned,
I
know
that
amanda
stated
that
catherine
would
consider-
or
at
least
you
know
think
about
the
possibility
of
being
allowed
to
view
the
the
video,
even
if
it
became
public
and
some
then
amanda.
Maybe
you
can
help
us
with
this.
I
know
there
was
also
a
concern
about
the
fact
that
this
has
been
going
on
and
dragging
out
and
being
in
the
public
for
numerous
meetings.
B
K
K
A
D
D
D
Rules
is
just
making
a
decision
today
either
grant
the
appeal,
in
which
case
it's
public
deny
the
appeal
or
if
the
appeal
is
denied,
but
we
here
denied
or
granted,
but
I
think
denied
is
probably
the
easier
way
to
go,
but
we
hear
that
she
is
willing
to
have
the
record
be
made
public.
Then
that
could
just
happen
as
a
matter
of
course.
Administratively.
B
D
There
aren't,
but
if
the
committee
decides
to
grant
the
appeal
today,
then
it's
then
it
would
be
considered
a
public
record
so
that
anyone
who
wanted
to
have
the
see
the
video
could
make
a
request
of
the
police
department.
So
I
I
think
that
you
may
want
to
well.
It
depends
on
the
committee,
but
if
you
don't
want
to
just
make
it
make
it
a
public
record
today
you're
going
to
need
to
qualify
that,
but
otherwise
that's
that's.
Really
your
option.
O
Yeah,
I
was
my
question
was
answered.
I
thought
there
might
be
a
way
we
could
grant
some.
You
know
pre-approval
today
contingent
upon
you
know,
I
think
authorization
on
on
whether
or
not
our
victim
would
like
to
to
make
that
public
or
not.
But
it
sounds
like
that
that
if
that
decision
is
made,
that
could
just
be
done.
Administering
right
is
that
what
you
were
saying,
nora,.
O
Okay,
I
guess
I
I
thought
I
heard
the
end
of
your
your
previous
statement
mentioned,
though,
that
if
we
did
grant
that
today,
then
it
would
be,
it
would
be
available
to
anybody
else
in
the
public
that
wish
to
view
it
after
today
as
well,
and
I
I
think
that
we
we
want
to
wait
until
we
hear
back
from
the
requester
because
she's
not
she
hasn't,
made
her
decision
yet
on
that.
So
that's
why
I
don't
think
I
I
don't
want
to
do
anything
just
yet
until
we
we've
heard
back
from
from
her.
O
B
K
K
I
understand
that
some
of
that
burden
has
now
been
shifted
onto
catherine
to
see
if
she
can
obtain
additional
evidence,
which
is
again
unfortunate
after
a
year
and
a
half
of
not
being
investigated.
But
if,
by
some
chance
we
were
able
to
obtain
some
additional
evidence.
Could
that
be
considered
into
her
private
release
of
the
footage.
M
Yeah
I
could
weigh
in
there
having
evidence
of
gun
purchases
would
help
us
get
closer
to
meeting
the
legal
threshold.
It's
not
as
the
city
man
assistant
city
manager,
said
earlier.
It's
not
a
guarantee
some
of
the
requirements
in
order
to
prove
their
that
a
crime
occurred.
A
violation
of
the
restraining
order
on
that
day
is
going
to
be
proof
that
a
gun
was
possessed.
K
M
The
if
physical
evidence
is
obtained-
or
you
know,
you're
able
to
acquire
that,
then
that
should
be
passed
along
to
the
detective
sergeant
from
the
family
violence
unit.
That
was
coordinating
with
the
requester
throughout
the
investigation
at
least
more
recently
right,
and
then
that
information
can
then
be
evaluated.
B
One
is
to
approve
the
appeal
with
conditions
that,
if
catherine
wants
to
view
the
video
that
it's
recognized
it'll
be
public
public
record
at
that
at
the
point
where
she
says
yes,
we
could
deny
the
appeal
with
a
provision
that,
if
katherine
decides
that
she
wants
to
view
the
video
that
she
can,
she
would
be
authorized
to
do
that,
and
it
still
would
be
public
record
or
we
can
defer
this
for
a
couple
weeks
to
allow
her
to
make
a
decision.
Did
I
summarize
that
correctly
or.
D
Yes,
although
I
don't
think
that
the
committee
needs
to
defer
this,
because
the
I
think
there's
a
direction
that
the
committee
could
give,
that
would
still
give
her
time
to
make
her
decision,
but
not
have
to
come
back
to
this
committee.
So
I
I
it
would
be
how
you
handle
the
appeal.
All
that's
in
front
of
you
right
now
is
an
appeal
of
a
denial
of
a
public
records
act
request
and
it
doesn't
need
to
come
back.
A
P
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
think
you
just
kind
of
asked
the
question.
Well
nora.
Just
answered
that
first
question:
we
don't
we
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
to
defer,
because
if
we're
inclined
to
approve
it,
if
she
wants
it
approved,
we
might
as
well
just
state
that
today,
one
more
question
for
norah.
Before
I
make
a
motion:
what
is
there
a
time
limit?
We
would
have
to
put
on
this
additional
approval,
or
could
we
just
say
an
open-ended
conditional
approval
and
let
the
requester
decide
at
any
time.
P
P
Not
to
put
some
kind
of
artificial
time
constraint
on
the
decision
I
mean
that
she
she
might
pursue
this
idea
of
seeing
if
she
can
find
the
evidence
it
might
take
longer
than
she
thinks
and
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
have
to
come
back
again.
So
I
prefer
to
say
you
know
we
conditionally
approve
and
leave
it
at
that.
Obviously,
all
of
the
other
things
like
if
it
goes
beyond
the
point
of
records
retention
and
all
that
I
think,
should
be
understood
in
the
in
the
process.
A
A
Q
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
Yeah
yeah,
anytime
tony's
in
charge
of
something
happens
to
my
zoom.
I
can't
get
on
the
screen
also
from
the
horseshoe
catherine.
That
was
the
right
decision.
I'm
I'm
with
you
all
the
way.
Thank
you
councilman
porn
and
thank
you
councilwoman
arenas.
It
was
the
absolutely
right
decision.
This
is
the
right
decision,
because
we
know
that
this
would
cover
up
and
it
was
the
right
decision
because
it
was
in
public
interest,
man
just
scroll
down
man
slow
down,
okay,
with
respect
to
this
agenda.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
I
have
a
public
right
when
you
set
that
agenda
either
you're
gonna
be
responsible
for
having
your
business
on
your
end,
because
believe
me,
I'm
reading
every
single
word
that
every
single
one
of
you
guys
produce
every
single
word
and
when
it,
when
you
guys
change
the
agendas
like
that,
the
car
is
doing
this
on
purpose.
One
says:
okay,
you
guys
are
submitting.
You
know
how
irresponsible
that
is,
and
disrespectful
that
is,
to
the
public
yeah.
Well,
we're
just
going
to
lay
on
them.
Q
You
know
an
agenda
item
and
I'm
going
to
meet
my
agenda
amend
my
a
memo.
You
know
just
right
before
it
because
I
know
somebody's
reading
them
and
I
want
to
give
them
time
to
prepare.
That's
disrespectful.
I
wanted
to
stop
okay
and
examine
these
agendas.
Mr
lee
wilcox,
you
know
do
something
about
that
man
because
he
goes
through
your
office,
so
I
demand
of
you
wilcox
to
set
up
this
agenda
accordingly.
If
not
quit,
we
don't
need
you.
No
more
bro
get
some
go.
H
H
Kind
of
what
paul
said.
Basically,
there
were
three
face
cards
yesterday
of
items
that
are
incredibly
important,
that
we're
slowly
putting
off
we're
trying
to
talk
about
the
forestry
management
issues.
That's
going
to
be
deferred,
even
next.
This
february,
first
to
february
8th,
there's
items
about
the
carlisle
and
and
how
to
define
racial
equity
issues
and
also
you
know
the
billboard
issue
the
billboard
issue
in
the
carlisle.
I
think
people
you
know
have
certain
good
ideas
about,
but
then
these
something's
going
wrong
with
these.
H
A
G
Yes,
thanks
for
the
decision,
yeah,
thank
you
for
the
decision
for
that,
I
hope,
really
hope
and
pray.
Everything
goes
okay
for
the
lady.
She
sounds
like
he's
been
through
quite
a
bit
about
the
consent
calendar
when
we
look
at
it,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
get
and
mr
soto's
brought
this
up
a
couple
of
times,
and
so
is
mr
beekman.
G
G
What
does
the
city
council
want
from
us
as
far
as
like,
when
we
write
a
letter?
What
what's
the
most
effective
way
where
we
know,
because
I
have
this
feeling
that
things
just
disappear?
I
know
you
can't
do
that
because
we
just
went
through
the
public
records.
You
have
to
keep
everything,
that's
mailed
to
you
or
emailed
or
talked
about.
I
get
all
that,
but
it's
how
to
best
reach
you
like.
G
G
B
P
Yeah,
thank
you.
First,
I
want
to
thank
staff,
tony
lee,
for
adjusting
on
the
fly
based
on
yesterday's
changes
and
getting
things
on
to
next
week's
agenda.
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
the
deferral
of
the
item
on
the
billboards,
since
we
don't
have
much
time
after
tonight's
commission
meeting
before
next
week's
meeting
to
have
digested
and
gotten
input
from
them.
So
I'm
glad
we
have
a
couple
extra
weeks
to
have
a
deliberative
process
after
tonight's
airport
commission.
P
To
answer
brian,
you
know
I
from
my
perspective
we
should
send
emails
to
our
office.
We
read
them
and
address
specific
agenda
items
and
that's
the
opportunity
to
address
any
specific
agenda
items
on
the
consent
calendar
that
are
of
concern-
and
I
know
this
question
has
been
asked
several
times
about
pulling
items
from
consent.
P
As
council
members,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
pull
items
from
consent.
There
was
never
an
opportu
any
other
mechanism
for
pulling
items
from
consent
except
council,
member
requests
or
staff
requests,
but
by
letting
us
know
in
advance
that
they
have
there's
a
that.
There's
a
concern
and
if
we
hear
concerns
that
we
think
are
worth
addressing
that
gives
us
time
to
say.
Oh,
we
want
to
pull
this
other
item
from
consent
as
well,
because
there's
some
questions
about
that
from
consent.
P
So
the
appropriate
process
is
let
let
the
council
know
that
council
members
know
of
concerns
and
address
specific
agenda
items,
whether
it
be
in
advance
or
in
public
comment
about
the
consent,
calendar
and
then
council
members
can
decide.
If
an
item
is
worth
pulling
from
the
consent
calendar
to
discuss
further
because
of
questions
that
are
raised.
P
The
language
on
the
agenda
has
been
there.
I
think,
a
little
bit
in
a
confusing
way
because
it
implied
something
that
has
never
been
the
practice
of
the
city,
and
so
the
cleanup
of
the
language
was
meant
to
make
sure
it
was
clear
about
what
the
process
is,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
that
everybody
understand.
There's
a
process,
and
there
have
been
times
in
my
past
and
other
legislative
bodies
where,
having
heard
comments
and
questions
about
an
agenda
item,
I
pulled
something.
P
I
E
C
E
That
is
correct.
Tony
both
of
these
meetings
will
be
virtual
and
next
week,
we're
likely
to
recommend
that
the
final
meeting
in
february
also
be
virtual.
We
will
be
continuing
to
push
back
for
an
additional
two
weeks.
Our
return
to
on-site
work
for
those
that
have
the
ability
to
work
from
home.
So
as
such,
these
will
continue
to
be
virtual,
at
least
until
the
first
meeting
of
march,
at
least
that's
what
we
would
recommend.
B
Q
Q
It's
not
like
going
through
the
way
that
you
said
not
only
that
this
city
would
never
ever
ever
ever
ever
in
its
life,
afford
the
public
anything
unless
it
was
a
law
and
because
it
was
there,
it
said.
Council,
city,
council
staff
and
member
of
the
public
can
request
this.
It
didn't
save
the
direction
that
you
said.
You
got
to
go
through
the
council
and
we
somehow
another
misunderstood
it
or
you
somehow
another
miswrote
it
because
believe
me,
if
you
guys
follow
it
to
the
key
and
to
your
advantage.
Q
So
what
I'm
saying
is
that
if
that's
going
to
be
your
statement,
that's
fine
I'll,
accept
that.
But
I
don't
want
to
come
in
here
and
embarrass
you,
because
that's
what's
going
to
happen,
you're
going
to
put
me
in
a
position
where
I
have
to
embarrass
you-
and
I
don't
want
to
do
that,
but
I
will
I
will,
because
this
is
a
law,
it's
a
law
that
that's
done.
It's
not
it's
not
a
courtesy
that
you're
going
to
extend
to
us
because
we
actually
get
one
minute
to
talk.
Q
One
minute
I
stood
on
that
phone
five
hours
yesterday
to
speak
for
one
minute
five
hours.
I
took
four
bullets.
The
topic
was
guns.
I
took
four
bullets
from
rebecca
amanda's
and
that
even
been
called
out.
You
guys
didn't
even
mention
it.
You
guys
are
like
not
the
caller
he's
the
caller
he's.
Not
even
a
citizen
he's
just
he's
just
some
force
on
the
phone,
but
believe
me.
I
exercise
power.
I
exercise
power
in
this
city.
I'm
done.
B
H
Hi,
thank
you
for
item
2.7
is
ask
the
continuation
of
the
hybrid
meeting
process
or
now
the
virtual
meeting
process
at
meeting
time
at
that
item
time.
I
hope
it
can
be
appropriate
that
a
person
from
the
public,
like
myself,
can
comment,
I
mean
to
me
it's
a
public
health
item
and
and
considering
the
importance
of
a
pandemic
and
that
the
community
share
information
with
each
other.
H
I
hope
you
can
learn
to
allow
a
certain
latitude
for
a
person
like
myself,
who
wants
to
speak
on
public
health
and
safety
items
around
the
issues
of
kovid
at
that
item
agenda
item
time.
I
think
that
should
be
allowed.
I've
been
to
a
few
city
councils
where
they
get
a
bit
uppity
and
say
well,
you're,
not
I'm
not
sticking
to
the
subject
matter
of
the
hybrid
meeting
process,
and
I
think
the
hybrid
meeting
process
is
all
about
community
public
health
and
defining
community
public
health
at
this
time
and
to
address
covet
issues.
H
H
You're
saying
it
right
now,
chappie,
I'm
saying
something
incredibly
meaningful,
deep
and
important
and
you're
saying
I'm
going
off
topic
right.
No,
I'm
not
I'm
saying
officially.
This
needs
to
be
allowed
to
be
talked
about
and
to
quickly
conclude
to
talk.
I
agree
with
paul.
I
think
council
person,
cohen's
words
are
a
bit
off
he.
I
don't
think
he
quite
offered
the
right
history
about
this
subject
matter
about
the
consent.
Calendar
language,
brian
and
him
did
offer
some
good
ideas,
but
there
are
several
others
that
have
to
be
considered
for
the
future.
H
O
A
C
A
B
H
Q
And
this
is
this:
is
my
neighborhood
man
this
I'm
sick
and
tired
of
this
man
that
do
you
think
she's
gonna
keep
that
mural,
guess
what
I
found
in
my
mario
you'll?
Never
guess
you
will
never
guess.
In
a
hundred
years
what
I
found
in
my
body,
I
found
the
building
where
the
first
issue
of
low
rider
was
printed.
Q
Yes,
so
wouldn't
be
having
discussions
about
my
barrio,
washington,
guadalupe
first
issue
a
little
letter
bingo,
so
don't
get
too
taken
off
that
mural,
because
these
parts
are
going
to
be
protected
and
with
respect
to
the
technology.
I
want
your
resources.
This
is
your
district
paralysis.
Where
are
you?
Oh?
Are
you
sucking
up
to
my
name?
Isn't
dillable?
My
name
is
not
oriaga.
My
name
is
not
nice,
so
we
ain't
got
no
action.
I
want
you
to
put
it
on
the
record
bro.
This
is
your
ass.
You
have
this.
A
G
G
We
we
send
in
letters-
and
I
know
one
of
the
other
representatives-
answered
the
question.
It
goes
into
like
a
packet
that
goes
along
with
everything
else
that
has
to
do.
Does
that
if
we
have
a
public
record,
do
those
things
follow
like
if
we
mentioned
an
agenda
item
in
the
public
record,
or
is
it
better
to
just
use
the
public
record
as
a
general
framework
to
write
things
that
are
not
directly
involved
in
with
the
the
agenda
of
that
day?
So
I
guess
being
the
most
specific
is
probably
the
best.
C
Yeah
I
was
actually
going
to
ask
brian
to
to
email
me
his
contact
and
I
can
call
him,
but
the
public
record
items
if
they
do
not
reference
a
council
item.
Those
are
the
letters
that
go
into
the
public
record,
their
general
comments
to
the
city.
If
they're
about
a
specific
department,
we
generally
take
those
letters
and
send
them
to
the
department
for
handling,
so
the
public
record
it.
The
rules
committee
is
more
broad
topics
of
the
city.
C
If
there's
a
specific
agenda
item,
then
we
take
that
letter
and
attach
it
to
the
specific
agenda
item
and
it
does
not
go
in
this
rules.
Public
record
packet,
okay,
and
we
actually
have
a
policy
on
online
that
says
how
the
the
public
record
packet
goes.
So,
if
brian
wants
to
email
city.clerk,
I
can
send
him
a
link
to
that
policy.
R
I'm
specifically
referent
thank
you,
the
referencing,
the
letter
handwritten
letter
from
the
high
schooler,
it's
dated
november
5th
of
2021,
I'm
just
wondering
that
seems
a
little
old.
Maybe
they
were
collected
and
submitted
or
whatever.
But
my
main
concern
is:
I
just
really
want
to
encourage
anyone,
so
it
says
to
san
jose
city
council,
but
when
you
have
high
schoolers,
so
I
have
taught
before
I'm
a
homeschooling
mom.
R
These
moments
are
critical
in
a
a
student's
life,
and
so
I'm
just
so
hopeful
that
someone
from
the
san
jose
city
council
has
taken
the
time
to
absolutely
just
just.
Do
it
just
take
the
time
to
reach
out
to
this
high
schooler
and
tell
them
what
a
difference
it
made
for
them
to
write
that
letter,
I
mean
we
wish.
R
We
could
do
that
with
everybody,
but
it's
really
important
that
when
we
are
trying
to
teach
civic
engagement,
if
a
child
under
the
age
of
18
is
becoming
civically
engaged-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
point
of
contact.
That's
so
important,
so
I
just
would
encourage
one
of
you
at
least
hopefully
more
to
reach
out
and
thank
angela
and
and
let
her
know
that
it
mattered.
R
B
A
B
H
H
Obviously
I
made
that
very
clear.
So
thanks
for
that,
thanks
for
understanding
that,
I
hope
that
I
assume
that's
what
you
were
asking
about
council
person
jones
so
with
this
item.
These
are
about
issues
of
communication,
and
this
was
what
took
place
last
night
that
I
was
just
amazed.
I
think,
overall,
with
the
the
the
idea
and
direction
of
of
working
on
the
policy
issues
of
gun
insurance
and
a
small
fee
to
help
pay
for
schooling,
education
and
counseling
services
for
our
community,
the
future
of
our
community.
H
B
Q
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
Vice
mayor
jones,
paul
soccer
from
the
horseshoe,
if,
if
redlining,
if
that
redlining
map
of
1939
is
not
inserted
in
this
conversation,
the
legitimacy
of
the
transference
of
district
six
to
district
of
of
horseshoe,
but
there
ain't
nobody
that
comes
in
here
and
says
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe,
and
that
was
the
primary
that
was
d11.
I
want
this
amended
this
this
memo
and
I
want
this
amended
prowess
and
I
demand
that
you
put
on
there
that
you
did
not.
Q
You
failed
one
of
the
most
active
citizens
from
that
value
that
you
failed
to
acknowledge
that
you
were
going
to
transfer
d11
on
the
red
line
up,
which
means
we
were
the
lowest
resources.
We
were
deprived
of
it.
Why?
Because
will
glenn
amex
into
the
city
of
san
jose
eight
months
before
that?
Redlining
map
was
developed
and
they
did
that
on
purpose,
and
so
they
forced
me
to
live
in
that
value
with
everything
that
happened
there,
and
then
you
have
the
audacity
to
keep
quiet
and
then
give
that
value
to
real
glenn.
Q
That
was
your
in
that
nondisclosure
deal.
Dude
you're
gonna
get
sued.
Dude
you're
gonna
get
sued,
and
so
is
the
city
because
you're
trying
to
legitimize
that
map,
you're
done
dude
you're
finished
the
courts
are
gonna,
know
exactly
and
then
you're
gonna
answer
them.
Dude
you
better
get
a
lawyer
because
I
don't
need
one.
I'm
gonna
come
with
the
culture.
I
don't
know
what
time
it
is
with
that
bodybuilder
can't
nobody
in
this
city
teach
me
about
red
light,
so
come
on,
deny
it
don't
put
it
on
there.
B
P
I
think
the
memo
is
pretty
straightforward.
Obviously
we
have.
There
are
a
lot
of
residents
in
the
city
who
are
now
in
a
different
district,
and
rather
than
have
each
council
office
try
to
communicate
with
them
directly.
It
makes
sense
for
the
city
to
do
a
common
message
that
goes
out
plus,
as
it
points
out
here.
People
who
are
running
for
office
can't
can't
do
mail
within
a
period
of
time
before
the
election
in
june.
So
this
allows
the
city
to
handle
it.
B
E
No
comments
other
than
it's
a
green
light.
Clerk's
office
city,
manager's
office
and
public
works
have
been
working
together
to
do
this,
given
kind
of
the
narrow
time
frame
of
communicating
to
residents
before
the
june
election.
So
it
is
a
green
light
and
you'll
see
a
budget
allocation
in
the
mid-year
budget
process.
For
this.
R
H
Blair,
all
right
thanks,
blair,
beekman
here
honesty
is
another
point
of
of
good
communication.
To
simply
note,
it
was
martin
luther
king's
birthday
a
few
weeks
ago.
A
good
reminder.
I
learned
at
that
time,
as
I
think
we
can
work
towards
voting
rights
issues
that
actually
can
unify
ourselves
as
a
nation
in
the
coming
decade.
H
If
we
want
to
be
open
and
honest
with
our
new
electronic
voting
ideas
and
definitely
follow
the
ideas
of
stacey
abrams
over
the
past
15
20
years,
which
she's
been
working
on,
I
think
something
amazing
can
develop
as
a
country
we
can
unify
ourselves.
We
don't
have
to
be
so
defensive
and
reactionary
and
I'm
interested
how
we
can
learn
how
this
is
a
time.
We
can
ask
ourselves
how
to
begin
to
better.
Do
that.
Good
luck
on
those
efforts,
good
luck
to
the
questions
of
honesty.
H
As
I
said
in
communicating,
what's
mistakes
at
first
and
uncomfortable
and
and
misunderstandings,
we
sit
in
a
process
and
we
learn
how
to
draw
out
its
honesty.
You
guys
did
that
awesomely
with
the
woman's
item
today,
her
appeal,
you
know
we
could
have
just
left
this,
that
the
public
isn't
allowed
to
view
body
cameras,
but
law
questions
can
be
much
deeper
than
that,
and
you
tried
to
ask
those
questions
and
you
found
a
way.
I
I
can't
thank
you
enough.
It
is
just
such
a
good
lesson
for
myself.
H
What
are
good
practices?
We
can
do
as
a
community
to
work
towards
our
better
ends.
It
was
awesome.
Thank
you
and
with
that
said,
I
I
need
to
apologize
a
bit
for
my
words
yesterday
at
at
the
end
of
open
forum,
I
I
meant
to
say
that
you
know
there's
a
vibrancy
to
the
surveillance
and
technology
ordinance
ideas
that
the
whole
community
can
can
get
involved
with,
and
I
hope
that
you
can
do
apply
that
same
thing
to
the
gun,
ideas
and
even
to
these
redistricting
ideas.
H
G
Yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
this
might
be
a
little
outside
the
wheelhouse.
First
of
all,
the
the
the
the
gun
ordinance
was
a
very,
very
well
thought
out.
Like
I'm
sure
you
don't
read
the
comment
sections
for
you
guys,
because
I
don't
think
I'd
run
away
of
some
of
the
news
articles.
It's
like
here,
you're
there
if
there's
any
way
to
no,
I
don't
know
prayer
is
not
the
right
well,
it
can
be
what's
going
on
in
the
ukraine
and
the
forces
we're
activating.
G
This
is
really
scary
and
it
can
spiral
out
of
control
very
fast.
There
are
four
ukrainians
and
they
gave
up
their
a
nuclear
option
when
the
soviet
union
spread
disintegrated
basically,
and
they
were
counting
on
nato
to
protect
them
from
a
potential
russian
aggression.
That's
at
least
that's
the
line,
that's
being
said,
but
the
four
other
nation
states
now
that
are
there,
they
do
have
nuclear
weapons
and
they're
very
clear
about.
They
do
not
have
a
problem
with
first
strike
and
actually
under
the
other
administration.
G
We
said
that
sort
of
the
soviets
I
mean
so
the
russians,
that's
scary,
because
I
remember
you
know,
planting
on
you
know,
duck
and
cover
like
tony
the
turtle
with
well
there's
no
duck
and
cover
in
a
nuclear
war.
Everybody
suffers
horribly
and
I
just
think
if
there's
some
possibility
of
the
piece
you
came
out
to
last
night
to
try
to
bring
some,
these
weapons
are
far
more
powerful
than
our
social
ability
to
handle
them
now
and
they're
becoming
more.
G
Q
Yes,
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
extend
catherine
what
you
did
was
courageous
and
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do,
because
your
advocacy
here
is
going
to
allow
women
to
now
be
even
more
so
protected,
because
now
that
this
information
is
going
to
become
public,
it's
going
to
inform
the
public.
I'm
sorry
to
say
it
like
this,
because
I
don't
mean
this
personally
to
you,
but
it
is
more
than
just
about
you.
Q
Q
I'll
accept
it
so
I'm
getting
back
to
the
g3
the
lines.
I
have
the
recordings
of
the
public
comments
and
you
perales
and
davis.
You
brought
up
every
single
other
district
except
district.
Three
and
six.
Those
are
the
only
districts
you
never
brought
up.
Okay.
Now
you
want
to
clean
it
up
with
this
document.
It's
not
gonna
happen.
Dude,
you
and
davis
are
going
to
be
defendants.
S
Yeah
hi,
all
this
is
martha
o'connell
and
I
just
found
out
something
in
the
last
couple
of
hours.
That
is
very,
very
stressful,
boar
members
of
boards
and
commissions
are
now
required
to
divulge
their
vaccine
status
and
apparently
it
can
go
through
anybody
in
the
department
under
which
the
commission
is-
and
I
have
a
real
problem
with
that.
S
I
think
that
when
we're
talking
about
medical
information,
that
this
information
should
be
collected
by
someone
like
the
ada
compliance
officer
and
not
a
clerk
or
or
an
employee
of
a
particular
department,
there's
privacy
concerns
here,
and
I
think
you
guys
need
to
look
at
this
very
carefully
and
give
people
the
opportunity
to
vote
to
divulge
this
information
in
confidence
to
an
appropriate
office
such
as
the
ada
compliance
officer.
Thank
you.
T
That's
penalizing
everyone
right!
So
I
just.
I
just
feel
that
like
because
I
mean
the
second
amendment
is
a
right:
it's
not
a
privilege.
We
shouldn't
have
to
pay,
especially
like
in
like
during
this
in
this
economy,
just
every
little
bit
is
adding
up.
Obviously
like
the
25
a
year.
I
don't
think
most
people
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
just
the
whole
idea
of
the
need
to
have
an
insurance
premium.
T
It's
it's
a
straight
harm
for
everyone,
who's
who's,
trying
to
exercise
their
right,
and
if
you
can
do
it
so
that
you
can
offset
a
low
of
that
price,
then
maybe
people
who
are
responsible
gun
owners
are
no
worse
off
than
before,
and
only
the
irresponsible
gun
owners
who
are
negligent
and
they
don't
keep
their
guns.
The
most
safe
will
be
penalized
more
because
they're,
paying
higher
premiums
they're,
just
something
to
consider
and
and
yeah.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you.
Yes,
with
the
the
gun
issue,
I
wanted
to
just
say
for
the
record
that
I,
the
liability
issue
having
liability
insurance
actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
I
talked
to
my
daughter
about
this
and
she
came
up.
She
says
why
don't
they
have
gun
safety
scores
to
reduce
your
premiums
like
when
I
took
that
teen
driver
course,
so
I
made
her
take
the
teen
drivers
course,
so
I
could
get
a
aaa
discount
on
my
policy.
R
I
would
think
that
would
be
a
similar
issue,
but
so
that's
that's
great,
but
the
25
fee.
It's
not
the
25,
it's
the
problem.
For
me,
it's
that
we
have
another
nonprofit
that
is
somehow
connected
to
our
local
government
and
all
of
these
non-profits
they're
driving
me
nuts,
and
I
personally
feel
like
next
door.
Solutions
may
be
wonderful,
I'm
so
grateful
they're
there,
but
once
we
continue
to
attach
our
local
government's
line
item
budget
association
with
connecting
our
policies
with
nonprofits.
R
I
don't.
I
don't
really
even
know
what
our
government
is
anymore.
There's
like
40
non-profits
at
every
single
task
force
situation
going
on,
and
I
I
really
sometimes
feel
like
non-profits
are
really
who
the
government
is
like.
What's
happening,
what
happened
to
government?
It's
just
all
these
non-profits.
I
think
that
was
that's
a
horrible
thing.
I'm
so
glad
that
councilmember
fully
council,
member
davis
and
councilmember
mayhem
voted
against
that.
I
think
that
was
very
wise.
Okay.
R
Their
part
landlord's
parcel
number
with
the
property
taxes
that
their
landlord
shows
people
that
own
property
receive
something
in
the
mail
that
says
santa
clara.
Where
does
your
taxes
go?
I've
already
said
this
at
santa
clara,
so,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
planning
the
seat
here
with
you.
Renters
should
see
the
tax
bill
as
well.
Thank
you.