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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of August 19, 2020
Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
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Agenda pending
A
A
B
C
Before
we
start,
I
want
to
actually
thank
dev
she's
been
great
when
I
run
these
meetings-
and
I
forget
about
12
different
things,
so
she
always
reminds
me,
so
I
appreciate
that,
especially
these
virtual
meetings,
because
there's
so
much
to
keep
track
of
so
thank
you.
B
All
right,
all
the
good
feelings
are
over
we're
starting
the
meeting
like
let's
commence
the
joint
meeting
for
rules
and
open
government
community
community
for
the
whole
wednesday
august
19th.
I'm
here
with
vice
mayor
jones,
councilmember,
davis
and
myself.
B
I
believe
customer
rents
is
gonna
be
up
since
today
is
that
right,
okay
and
then
councilman
chemist
may
join
us.
We
hope
we're
on
to
item
a1,
which
is
the
review
the
final
agenda
for
the
25th.
B
B
B
E
Yeah,
that's
a
good
way
of
putting
it.
I
think
the
conclusion
we
came
to
is
this
agenda
and
the
next
three
are
kind
of
so
packed
that,
and
since
this
is
technically
a
continuation
of
an
item
that
we
didn't
complete
yesterday,
I
thought
just
best
to
propose
putting
it
here.
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
the
conclusion
we
came
to,
but.
B
E
I
think
we're
I
think,
we're
okay
with
that,
you
know
I
yeah,
I
didn't
know
what
the
how
the
you
you
all
felt
about.
You
know
this
item
and
how
close
we
were
to
kind
of
just
completing
it.
You
know
there,
but
there
might
have
been
more
discussion
that
needed
to
happen
and
I'll
just
share
with
you.
E
You
know
just
reflecting
on
last
night,
we
were
thinking
it
might
be
helpful
with
this
item
just
to
to
put
out
a
supplemental
memo
just
to
kind
of
clarify
a
few
things,
since
we
were
having
a
quite
a
discussion
last
night
so,
but
we
would
be
able
to
do
that
by
before
that
this
meeting
next
week,
if,
if
we
were
to
keep
it
here,.
B
B
I
guess,
as
I
reflect
on
this,
I
know
that
there's
no
such
thing
as
a
good
day
these
days
with
the
agendas
we
have.
I
know
we're
gonna
have
another
lengthy
discussion,
3.1.
B
Given
that,
I
suspect,
there's
going
to
be
other
issues
relating
to
the
the
police
items
that
are
all
going
to
come
back
to
us
on
the
after
action
report
on
the
15th,
I
would.
I
would
recommend,
for
the
make
of
the
motion
that
maybe
we
just
push
it
to
the
15.
So
we
could
have
all
those
discussions
together
unless
there's
some
need
to
resolve
that
quickly.
C
Yeah
mira,
I'm
kind
of
torn
one
is
that
you
know
the
sooner.
We
have
that
discussion
kind
of
still
fresh
in
everybody's
mind
in
terms
of
the
previous
discussion
that
we
had
yeah
and
based
on
my
precise
estimation,
I
figured
we
had
about
23
minutes
left
in
on
that
item
23.
and
I'm
never
I'm
never
wrong.
C
My
estimations,
I
think.
At
the
same
time,
I
I
see
a
lot
of
synergy
between
the
after
action
report
and
and
this
duty
manual,
because
they're
really
discussing
very
similar
issues
and
topics,
so
I'm
kind
of
torn,
but
I
I
live
with
deferring
it
till
the
15th,
but.
B
C
A
All
second:
does
your
motion
include
having
3.5
the
community
plan
to
end
homelessness,
not
to
be
heard
before
4
pm?
That's
the
administration's
recommendation
right,
it's
already
in
the
it
just
says,
recommend.
So
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
had
to
be
in
the
motion.
Well,
just.
C
B
So
but
I
understand
customer
davis's
point,
which
has
that
tricky
word
recommend
in
there:
okay.
D
B
Okay:
let's
go
to
the.
B
Public
mr
bleepin.
F
Hello
happy
wednesday.
I
hope
my
sound
quality
will
be
better
today
to
speak
to
item
3.1
and
david
sykes
weekly
kovid
report.
I
tried
to
say
yesterday,
you
know
I
don't
want
to
speak
in
absolutes
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
speak
in
ways
that
just
give
your
your
own
selves
and
the
community
ideas
on
on
issues,
and
you
know
I
to
make
a
big,
bold
statement.
I
really
want
to
be
able
to
talk
about.
You
know
how
owners
and
tenants
can
get
along.
F
They
don't
have
to
sue
each
other
and
the
good
practices
we're
trying
to
be
able
to
do
that.
To
make
sure
that
happens,
the
good
assembly
bills
and
such
I
think
I
I
I
hope
you
can
be
patient.
F
I
think
you
have
an
awesome
responsibility
to
do
that
and
not
simply
hold
back
in
the
name
of
you
know,
professional
business,
class
and
and
and
etiquette-
and
you
know,
if
you
explain
things
openly,
you
know
it's
really
to
to
full
forgiveness-
is
really
how
to
address
ourselves
about
this
matter
and
that
it
is
not
the
fault
of
ourselves.
It
is
an
international
level
and
they
obviously
have
naturally
once
again
made
a
big
mistake
about
it
and
we're
going
to
hopefully
learn
important
lessons
from
that
and
housing.
F
Health
and
food
are
just
items
that
we
have
to
treat.
As
you
know,
givens.
We
all
need
those
things
and
good
luck
on
how
we
work.
B
Thank
you,
mr
speakman,
paul
soto.
G
Good
afternoon
mayor
council
members,
I
agree
I
second,
with
the
what
blair
was
talking
about.
There's
there's
a
there's,
a
a
deductible,
a
noticeable
undercurrent
of
language
and
meaning
that's
going
on
in
this
council
and
it
that's.
G
Your
role
is
to
inform
us
and
you're
informed
and
you're
talking
about
things
that
you
know
what
you're
talking
about
and
what
their
potential
impacts
can
be
on
the
public
but
you're
not
saying
nothing
but
yet
you're
discussing
it
at
a
forum
where
the
business
of
the
public
is
discussed,
with
clarity
with
with
poignancy
with
accuracy
of
language
rather
than
a
bunch
of
vague
ambiguous.
G
You
know
half
sentences
and
you
on
the
panel
will
understand
what
that
means.
But
here
in
the
public
I
don't
and
it's
frustrating,
because
it's
being
done
with
like,
like
almost
like
a
mock
like
a
straight
face,
you're
going
to
do
this
to
the
public
and
and
not
have
any
kind
of
concern.
G
But
yet
you
are
a
servant
of
the
public.
So
that's
why
I
get
kind
of
confused.
You
know
nobody
can
question
my
sincerity
about
wanting
to
establish
a
racial
equity
lens
within
the
context
of
the
way
that
it
funds
are
administered
in
the
city.
You
know
and
and
there's
a
historical,
that's
that's
rooted
in
the
historical
injustices
that
had
happened
in
the
city
and
so.
G
B
Thank
you,
jeremy
taylor.
H
We
need
face
shields
or
related
to
coronavirus.
We
need
face
shields
for
unhoused
residents
in
san
jose,
especially
because
the
average
on
house
resident
is
exposed
to
at
least
dozens
of
residents
per
day.
So
I
would
like
to
see
san
jose
put
an
effort
to
get
all
on
house
residence
face
shields
thanks.
B
Okay,
returning
to
the
panel
councilman
camps,
I
should
know,
has
been
on
the
phone.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
observe
that
earlier
councilman
canvas.
I
Yeah,
I
am
sorry,
I'm
my
computer's
not
functioning
today
and
I
have
to
do
my
cell
phone.
So
forgive
me
I
you
know
yesterday's
item
3.1
kind
of
stretched
into
the
day.
You
know
some,
you
know
art.
I
You
know
we
were
putting
limits
on
how
many
minutes
that
people
could
talk
on
3.1
and
I
think
we
should
revisit
that
because
you
know
if,
if
we,
if
we
hadn't
gone
so
long
on
on
that
item,
we
might
have
been
able
to
finish
yesterday's
discussions.
Is
there
you
know?
Is
there
any
thought
to
doing
that.
I
We
we
were
putting
council
limit
limits
on
council
discussion,
yes
for
item
for
the
manager's
report
in
the
past
yeah.
I
think
we
should
revisit
that.
B
It
again
yeah,
it
certainly
happened
to
you.
I
it
just
you
know
at
some
point:
it's
just
beating
my
head
against
the
wall.
If,
if
council
doesn't
want
to
hold
themselves
to
it
and
yeah,
we
get
what
we
get,
we
go
past
midnight.
I
B
Yeah,
I'm
sure
you're
right,
councilman
davis,.
A
Yeah
I
as
much
as
I
would
like
the
limits.
I
think
it
I
think
it
caused
more
contention.
A
Then
it
was
worth,
and
I
I
don't-
I'm
not
interested
in
revisiting
it
again,
and
I
also
you
know
was
actually
just
talking
with
one
of
my
staff
members
today.
I
I
didn't
have
very
much.
A
I
didn't
think
on
3.1
yesterday
and
then,
as
we
were
discussing,
I
had
more
questions,
come
up
and
and
they're,
not
something
that
you
know
normally,
I
I
could
just
grab
a
staff
member
in
the
elevator
or
I'd
see
them
in
the
parking
garage
or
walking
to
lunch
and
just
ask
those
questions
and
we
don't
have
those
you
know
serendipitous
encounters
anymore,
so
I
think
the
reason
our
meetings
are
so
long
as
I
was
reflecting
earlier
today.
A
A
But
I
I
also
think
at
this
point
we
should
have
the
discussions
that
we
need
to
have
and
having
them
all
having
them
all
together,
actually
probably
costs
staff
less
time
than
having
those
those
side
conversations
and
having
to
go
for
staff
to
have
to
go
on
multiple
zoom
meetings.
So
that's
my
two
cents
on
the
time
limit.
B
Okay,
well,
honestly,
I'm
not
sure
it's
even
worth
us
debating
here,
because
it'll
all
get
re-debated
at
the
council
anyway,
so
I
I
I'll
simply
defer.
If
somebody
wants
to
make
the
motion
at
the
council,
they
can
certainly
do
so.
I'm
I'm
clear
about
where
I
am
we'll
see
what
happens
all
right
on
the
motion
I'll,
I
guess
we
we
need
to
vote
by
roll.
Don't
we
tony.
J
Yeah,
I
think
we
should
with
canvas
on
the
phone.
Okay,
we
make
sure
he's
heard.
Yep
uranus
is
absent,
so
davis.
A
J
C
J
I
believe
we
should
always
do
a
roll
call,
but
I
will
consent
like
consent
calendar,
I'm,
okay,
with
with
the
everything
when
it's
just
like.
If
you
were
to
just
approve
the
agenda
and
have
no
changes,
I'd
say
just
do
it
all
as
a
group,
but
because
there
are
several
changes
and
that
moving
4.2
to
9
to
915.
I
B
I'm
going
to
reel
this
meeting
in
rhonda
item
two,
which
is
the
the
agenda
for
september
1st,
we'll
begin
with
pages
five
and
six.
C
Well,
that's
1
30
on
the
is
that
right.
B
Exactly
okay,
we'll
come
back
for
a
motion:
okay,
the
person
with
the
phone
number
ending
five;
seven,
two
four
we're
speaking
now
on
the
agenda
for
tuesday
september
1st.
D
K
D
Okay,
here
we
go,
I
think
I've
got
it.
This
is
actually
gabriele
on
this
with
somos
maiser
and
I'm
actually
watching
you
on
one
phone
and
on
the
other
phone,
but
I
would
like
to
request
that
I
believe
it's
item
8.1,
which
is
the
citywide
residential
anti-displacement
strategy
discussion.
D
If
you
could
make
that
time,
certain
we've
involved
a
lot
of
different
communities
in
san
jose
around
that
item
and
those
those
proposals
and
we've
been
working
on
it
for
over
a
couple
of
years
and
would
like
to
make
sure
as
many
of
the
community
members
we've
worked
with,
are
able
to
listen
in
on
your
discussion
around
that,
and
so,
if
we
could
make
that
time,
certain
that
would
be
great.
I
think
sometimes
you
guys
take
a
dinner
break
or
something
like
that.
D
So
maybe
right
after
that,
when
you
all
feel
good
and
full,
but
just
just
the
time
that
you
know,
maybe
after
people
get
off
work
and
stuff
and
have
dealt
with
their
children
and
stuff,
that
would
be
great.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
we'll
take
that
recommendation.
When
we
come
back
to
the
panel
claire
beekman.
F
All
right,
I
wanted
to
speak
on
item
6.1,
which
is
microgrid
and
energy.
Resiliency
studies
you're
developing
over
the
past
few
weeks,
now
local
community
energy
ideas.
Thank
you.
You
know
I
I
tried
to
mention
you
know,
community
energy
ideas
yesterday
and
what
I
think
the
important
need
is
to
consider
the
ideas
of
renewable
energy
and
not
not
just
clean
energy.
F
Those
are
two
different
ways
to
look
at
the
future
of
energy,
and
you
know,
I
hope,
we're
into
the
idea
in
san
jose
of
renewables,
and
I
think
that's
that
is
just
the
vital
question
for
ourselves.
I
think
we
can.
I
feel
personally,
that
you
know
clean
energy
is
basically
nuclear
energy
and
that
that
develop
that
delivers
carbon
free
energy,
which
is
important
to
ourselves,
but
it
nuclear
energy
and
its
think
tanks,
its
corporate,
you
know
mantra
it's
it's
it's
you
know
corporate.
You
know
passing
along
to
each
other.
F
It's
basically
about
ideas
of
what
brought
along
covet
things
and
basically
works
towards
the
ideas
of
there
can
be
acceptable
losses
of
mass
members,
of
our
civilization
and
of
our
society
and
of
our
communities.
F
That
is
the
premise
of
nuclear
power,
and
we
are
at
a
time
for
ourselves
to
really
consider
positive,
sustainable
ideas,
and
that
has
to
be
key
and,
however,
we
all
move
forward
in
this
time
of
code.
I
feel-
and
I'm
I'm
just
really
hopeful
of
that,
and
so
we
have
to
really
reconsider
the
future
of
nuclear
and
really
work
at
this
time.
F
How
we
can
end
it
you
know,
and
local
community
energy
just
does
an
incredible
thing
for
local
democracy
and
and-
and
it
just
invites
local
communities
to
work
together
towards
the
ideas
of
good
local
democracy
of
their
own
at
their
own
level.
Thanks.
B
Thank
you,
maria
martinez,.
K
Hi
good
afternoon
members,
maria
martinez,
district,
5
resident
and
also
staff
for
somos
mayfair.
K
My
my
petition
for
today
is:
I
want
to
echo
what
are
the
my
colleagues
gabrielle
asking
for
move
around
the
island,
8.5
8.1,
sorry
after
that,
you
get
you
wonderful
dinner,
but
also
I
want
to
asking
you
for
probably
a
translation
even
for
this
meeting,
also
because
for
the
for
the
september
first
and
for
the
every
meeting
that
that
the
city
have
for
me
is
very
important.
K
The
community
get
that
information
and
their
own
language,
and
it's
important
to
get
all
this
information
that
you
have,
because
when
the
when
the
community
they
get
the
information,
I
think
that
we
can
making
the
changes
and,
and
we
can
working
together.
So
hopefully
you
can
move
up
the
8.1
after
you
take
it.
You
wonderful
dinner
and
you
provide
a
translation
for
a
spanish
speaker.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah,
I
was
just
I
was
concerned
about
some
reports:
environmental
impact
reports
for
the
high
rises
that
are
going
up
if
there's
any
sociological
reports
that
go
along
with
that,
I
don't
mean
just
the
environment.
G
What
I'm
talking
about
is
how
moving
that
many
people
with
these
income
levels,
because
you
you
basically
they're
a
very
predictable
demographic,
so
you
can
you
can
you
can
get
that
demograph
and
how
that
demograph
is
going
to
mesh
in
with
the
culture
that's
already
set
here,
because
there's
going
to
be
probably
about,
I
don't
know,
maybe
about
a
hundred
thousand
people
that
are
going
to
be
coming
here
to
san
jose
within
the
next
10
years,
at
least
a
hundred
thousand-
probably
that's,
probably
a
pretty
conservative
number
so
with
that
and
with
the
amount
of
wealth
there's
at
least
15
to
20
billion,
that's
going
to
be
coming
into
the
centralized
district
3..
G
So
we
can't
we
can't
elevate
to
the
higher
levels
of
consciousness
and
thinking
because
we're
consumed
with
food,
shelter
and
safety,
and
so
because
I
can
see
it,
I
can
see
exactly
what
that
is
going
to
happen
and
there's
going
to
be
a
clash,
a
clash
in
the
sense
that
you're
going
to
have
people
that
are
going
to
come
to
the
city
and
feel
a
sense
of
entitlement,
because
everything
was
built
for
them
and
that
sense
of
entitlement
is
going
to
be
at
the
expense
of
the
native
populations.
G
H
Quickly
for
maria's
concern
on
translation,
the
city
on
zoom,
so
you
can
just
turn
on
transcription
and
then
translate.
I
think
you
guys
already
own
it
and
then
an
idea
for
the
next
meeting.
I
know
you
all
are
really
smart
about
using
data
to
make
drive
decisions.
H
B
Thank
you.
Okay.
Coming
back
to
the
panel
the
recommendation,
I
think,
from
a
couple
community
members
who
have
a
time
certain.
I
know
that's
difficult
for
us
at
times
certain,
but
perhaps
a
not
before
time
to
discuss
that
item.
The
recommendation
was
right
after
dinner,
I'm
fine
with
something
and
say
not
before
six
o'clock.
A
Thanks
sorry,
it
was
faster
to
raise
my
hand
than
to
raise
my
blue
hand.
I
was
wondering
I
know,
there's
there's
interest
in
8.2,
but
8.1
is
the
anti-displacement
strategy.
A
Yeah
me
too,
but
I
think
that
they're
a
similar
group
interested
in
both,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
we
wanted
to
try
to
pair
them.
A
A
B
E
I
could
marry,
I
think
the
speakers
were
requesting
not
before
six
on
8.1,
though
oh
yeah,
I'm.
B
A
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
for
september
1st
with
a
start
time
of
11,
I
think
we
said
and
and
making
item
8.1
not
before
6pm.
B
We
got
a
second
in
there,
okay,
good
anybody
like
to
let's
see
here.
Okay,
all
right,
let's
vote
then.
E
B
F
Hi
for
public
record,
my
my
letter
was
a
letter
to
the
cpuc,
and
this
this
entire
summer.
I've
been
learning
to
finally
write
to
them
and
describe
my
own
feelings
of
the
ideas
of
technology.
Accountability,
and
I
mean
the
ideas
of
tech.
Accountability
are
the
ideas
of
positive
sustainability.
F
You
know
it
is
good
communication
between
everyday
community
and
its
local
government.
That
is
specifically
meant
to
address.
You
know
good
democracy
and
from
that
how
how
that
can
end
continual
war
and
its
shock
doctrine
practices.
F
So
it's
these
sorts
of
elements
and
ideas
that
really
have
to
be.
You
know
first
talked
about
in.
However,
I
feel
we
move
forward
this
time
as
a
society
and
as
and
in
fact,
the
world
how
we
need
to
move
forward,
how
to
consider
ourselves.
F
We
have
to
place
positive
sustainability
first
and
foremost,
no
matter
the
the
intentions
of
what
this
kobit
19
is
meant
to
accomplish,
with
48
seconds
I
wanted
to
remind
community
energy
is,
is
where
everyday
people
you
know
from
from
each
community
can
work
in
their
own
community
and
develop
good
ideas
and
then
connect
to
people
of
neighboring
communities,
and
it's
that
sort
of
connections
at
the
local
level.
It's
it's
a
great
program
and
I
hope
our
own
city
can
start
to
the
people
around
city
can
really
get
into
it
and
there
was
a.
F
There
was
a
20
seconds,
a
woman,
another
public
record
letter
she's
an
owner
and
she's
asking
for
help
from
you
as
the
city
government.
What
she
can
do,
so
she
can
get
her
payments
back.
I
think
you
can
have
answers
for
her
and
I
hope
you
can
learn
to
supply
her
those
answers
and
and
talk
to
ourselves
about
what
answers
you're
giving
to
her
as
well
and
that's
our
future
and
that's
our
hope.
Thank
you.
F
B
You,
sir,
all
right
on
the
motion.
We
need
to
take
roll
on
this
tony.
B
Right,
an
item
g
one:
we
have
a
consent,
calendar.
B
F
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
speak
to
landip's
ideas
of
accounting.
Ideas
is
that
on.
B
B
L
Mayor,
thank
you.
If
you
look
at
the
memo,
it's
relatively
straightforward,
one
of
the
reasons
that
this
memo
was
prompted
was
simply
because
I
looked
at
the
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
public
safety
committee.
I
looked
at
the
work
plan.
I
didn't
see
fireworks
anywhere
in
there,
so
I
had
a
conversation
with
some
folks
within
the
administration
and
there
was
it
was
mentioned
that
it
was
potentially
going
to
be
brought
back.
I
think
september
15th.
So
with
regard
to
the
date,
that's
in
my
memo.
I
think
it
says
august
25th.
L
You
can
disregard
that.
I
was
told
that
I
think
if
it's
approved
here,
it'll
come
back
the
15th
of
september
or
so,
but
as
I
mentioned
in
the
memo,
it's
just,
I
think
it's
something
worthwhile
for
us
to
keep
on
our
radar
and
it's
something
that
I
consistently
hear
about
and
granted.
I
know-
and
I've
expressed
this
to
some
of
the
folks
that
are
advocating
us
to
do
better
by
the
community,
as
it
relates
to
fireworks
that
this
certainly
doesn't
fall.
It
doesn't
rank
one.
L
You
know
one
one,
two
or
three
on
the
list
of
some
of
the
things
that
we're
dealing
with
in
the
city,
but
yet
I
still
think
it's
worth
the
discussion
and
that's
why
this
memo
just
simply
asked
to
bring
it
forward
before
the
full
council
to
discuss,
and
that's
really
that's
really
it.
Okay,
I
can
answer
any
questions
if.
L
No
no,
as
I
mentioned
that
was
put
in
there
after
before
I
had
conversations
with
the
city
administration.
B
Okay
to
the
public,
I
don't
see
any
members
of
the
public
elected
speaker
on
this
item.
The
illegal
fireworks
report
so
we'll
come
back
to
this,
the
council
for
a
cast.
I
E
Yeah,
and-
and
thank
you
council,
member
and
councilmember
amanda's
mentioned-
is
that
we,
so
this
used
to
be
more
or
less
a
standard
report
that
we
brought
through
his
fizz
and
sometimes
would
be
cross-referenced
with
the
council.
E
It
ended
up
getting
dropped
off
the
pizzfizz
schedule
and
work
plan,
and
so
I
think
the
request
here
is
to
in
essence,
bring
forward
the
report
that
we
typically
brought
forward
to
pis
directly
to
council
and
I
think
we're
we
are
comfortable
with
that.
I
Yeah,
I'm
very
I'm
very
curious.
I
actually
I
I
concur
with
councilmember
jimenez
received
lots
of
complaints
this
year,
far
far
more
than
I've
ever
received
in
my
seven
years.
I'm
waiting
to
hear
I'd
love
to
hear
the
report
as
well.
I'm
glad
we're
we're
going
to
discuss
it
as
a
full
council.
So
thank
you
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
memo.
A
Second,
thank
you
yeah.
I
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
jimenez
for
bringing
this
forward
and
for
catching
it
I
actually
got.
Of
course
I
got
many
calls
and
emails
as
well,
and
I
I
had
said
to
all
my
residents.
Well,
we
will
hear
this
in
council.
We
always
do
after
the
fourth
of
july,
so
I
I
want
to
thank
you,
council,
member
jimenez,
for
the
eagle
eye
and
and
noting
that
it
wasn't
on
the
on
the
pis
work
plan
so
that
you
can
bring
it
forward
for
us.
A
I
appreciate
that
council
member
chemist,
your
motion
included
changing
the
number
three
to
hearing
it
on
september
15th,
correct.
C
L
Yeah
that
that's
a
good
question.
I
thought
that,
given
the
amount
of
complaints
and
concerns
that
I've
heard
from
the
community,
I
think
it
warranted
a
full
debate
and
really
discussion
at
the
council
instead
of
just
at
the
committee,
and
so
that's
the
reason
I
mean
I
could.
I
could
have
easily
done
that.
C
Well,
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion,
but
I
just
want
just
raise
that
point,
because
that
this
particular
topic
actually
would
be
a
prime
topic
to
put
on
pizzviz
work
plan
and
have
us
ask
questions,
debate,
discuss
through
pissfizz
and
then
do
a
cross-reference
to
counsel,
because
that's
that's
our
our
role
on
pissfizz.
So
I
just
I'm
just
hesitant
to
circumvent
that
process.
But
I
I
will
support
the
motion,
but
I
just
want
to
just
make
that
point.
That's
all.
L
And
I
appreciate
that-
I
guess
one
thing
that
comes
to
mind
for
me
is
just
simply
that
I
think,
even
if
it's
small
action,
something
very
small
small
pilot
in
a
particular
neighborhood
or
a
few
streets.
I
just
think
that
this
topic
has
been
lingering
for
far
too
long
and
that
we
just
need
to
take
some
sort
of
action.
L
Creative
or
not.
I
mean
I
don't
know
right.
I
think
just
folks
are
asking
for
something
to
be
done,
and
so
I
thought
as
well.
If
it
went
through
the
pizza
committee
that
you
know
it
was
just
going
to
be
delayed
a
little
longer,
and
I
thought
it
was
good
just
to
bring
this
forward
now.
But
but
I
appreciate
your
concern,
I
I
know
that
that's
typically
where
we
discuss
it,
I
just
I
just
think
it's
important
to
bring
forward
sooner
rather
than
later.
B
Okay
on
the
motion:
let's
vote.
B
Three
is
a
matter
from
accounts
proposed
by
council
member
don
diepp,
who
is
with
us
government
accountability
measures,
councilman
yep.
M
Hello,
thank
you
mayor,
so
I
I'm
bringing
this
before
the
rules
committee
hope
hoping
to
get
to
council.
I
realize
that
some
of
my
reforms
or
proposals
aren't
doable
in
the
in
the
short-term
immediacy,
given
that
we're
under
covet.
I
I
but
I
I
think
that
now
is
the
time
to
kind
of
think
ahead
in
preparing
for
the
next
crisis,
whatever
it
may
be,
whenever
we
we.
So
I
proposed
four
things:
you've
read
the
memo,
but
let
me
pull
it
up
real,
quick.
M
It's
essentially
asking
that,
whatever
future
budget
surpluses,
we
have,
we
set
aside
half
of
them,
50
of
it
into
a
budget
reserve
fund
or
a
lock
box.
If
you
will,
until
we
get
15
of
our
general
fund,
saved
up
right
and
also
creating
a
standing
commission
of
residents
to
provide
oversight,
issue
reports
on
any
ballot
measure
or
policy
proposal
that
the
council
endorses,
which
would
increase
taxes
or
generate
additional
revenue.
M
M
So
we
can
kind
of
find
some
sort
of
synergy
to
the
maximum
extent
possible,
and
then,
lastly,
you
know
directing
the
city
auditor
to
audit
every
four
years
or
every
year,
three
departments
that
are
you
know
three
departments,
but
every
department
will
get
a
revisit
every
four
years
and
beginning
this
year
by
amending
the
work
plan
to
include
in
the
current
police,
audit
cost
savings
and
efficient
process
efficiencies.
M
Being
the
focus
of
of
these
audits-
and
I
know
we're
gonna-
have
to
do
a
lot
more
with
less
in
the
coming
years,
but
I
think
if
we
we
commit
to
these
kind
of
actions
now,
when
the
time
comes,
where
we're
a
bit
more
comfortable,
I
feel
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
pressure
for
us
to
spend,
spend
spend,
spend
because
we'll
have
a
backlog,
but
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
we're
able
to
get
through
today
now
because
we
did
save
up
a
reserve
fund.
M
I
forget
what
the
exact
number
was
it's
in
the
memo.
I
think
it
was
some
like
30
something
million
and
and
we
we
dipped
into
it.
Now
we
have
about
another
20
million
for
the
next
budget
cycle,
but
as
we
continue
to
deplete
it,
we
need
to
be
worried
about
saving
it
for
for
future
cycles
and
future
councils.
So
these
are
just
a
few
proposals
that
I
think
will
help
increase
transparency.
M
I
know
that
all
of
you
like
me
when
we're
out
there
talking
to
the
public
we
often
hear
about
everyone
being
over
taxed,
but
not
getting
the
benefit
of
their
services
and
that's
basically
all
they're
asking
for
and-
and
I
hear
that
and
I
don't
agree-
and
I
explain
to
them
that
san
jose
only
gets
13
cents
on
the
tax
dollar.
But
it's
it's
also
very
hard
for
me
to
point
specifically
to
where
their
their
measure
b
dollars
have
gone
or
where
their
measure
t
dollars
have
gone.
M
Less,
though,
with
measure
t,
we've
done
a
better
job
with
measure
t.
But
generally,
I
think,
if
there's
a
public
report,
regular
audits,
we
can
point
to
this
and
have
a
public
discussion
and
the
public
will
be
able
to
see
what
we're
doing
and
more
transparency
is
a
good
thing.
So
that's
my
idea
and
I
hope
the
rules
committee
agrees.
B
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
recommendations
in
the
memo
to
support
before
we
go
to
the
public
dave.
Do
you
want
to
offer
any
green,
yellow
red
observations?
You
know.
E
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
think
thank
you
council
members,
so
we
we
did
issue
a
early
release,
form
evaluation
form,
so
you
should
hopefully
have
that.
I
don't
think
we've
got
it
posted.
I
you
know
so
and
oh
that's
right.
Gloria's
gonna
show
that
here
in
in
essence,
what
we
did
and
and
jim
shannon
and
lee
are
here
with
items
one
and
three
I
think
we're
able
to.
We
have
the
capacity
to
kind
of
fold
them
into
the
work
that
we
were.
E
You
know
we
normally
do
here,
and
so
we
put
a
green
light
to
those.
I
think
item
two
is
much
more
of
a
pretty
heavy
lift,
and
so
I
think
we
actually
issued
a
red
light
recommendation
on
that,
and
then
we
did
not
comment
on
on
item
number
four,
because
that's
really
in
joe's
realm-
and
I
do
believe
joe
is-
is
on
with
this
right
now.
So
I
think
lee
and
jim
and
and
joe
and
I
stand
ready
for
any
questions
about
these
recommendations.
N
Just
quickly,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
it's
it.
The
four
is
completely
doable
the
you
know.
I
appreciate
that
you
know
amending
the
work
plan
rolling
that
into
the
current
audits,
as
opposed
to
a
separate
one
would
be
really
helpful
and
it
makes
perfect
sense.
The
the
you
know,
the
idea
of
having
at
least
three
audits
with
you
know
pretty
much.
N
The
bigger
bigger
departments
and
cycling
back
every
four
years
is
completely
doable
it's
what
we
generally
do,
because
we
usually
hit
the
big
ones,
because
they
pop
up
but
being
more
explicit
about
that
and
in
figuring
out
how
to
make
sure
that
that
occurs
is
is,
is,
is
fine,
I'm
curious
what
it
would
look
like
and
how
that
would
mor
how
that
would
be
memorialized
if,
if
the
departments
listed
here
are
the
is
that,
is
that
a
complete
list
or
are
we
talking
about
all
departments?
N
B
Okay,
I'm
guessing.
There
are
some
other
departments
well
sub
departments,
as
I
think
about
it.
Did
you
intend
that
for
that
to
be
exhaustive
concerned
yet.
M
D
B
B
E
Yeah
and
I'll
let
lee
wayne,
I
think,
you're
correct.
You
know.
I
think
that
the
statement
in
here
that
you
know
it's
provide
oversight
on
any
ballot
measures
or
policy
proposals
proposed
or
endorsed
by
the
city
to
result
in
tax
increases,
and
so
I
think
you
know
it
could
be
that
we're
funneling
quite
a
bit
through
here.
D
We
would
need
to
run
it
by
so
the
neighborhoods
commission
certainly
wouldn't
be
a
a
new
commission
that
we
would
need
to
stand
up,
but
the
amount
of
hours
that
the
intergovernmental
relations
team
that
could
be
in
front
of
the
neighborhoods
commission
and
kind
of
that
proactive
work.
I
can
certainly
see
value
as
we
pass
ballot
measures
that
are
revenue,
generators
that
there's
a
check
and
a
balance
with
a
commission
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
but
that
that
initial
kind
of
exploratory
brain
dumping
phase
to
involve
a
commission
seems
somewhat
impractical.
B
Okay,
we'll
go
to
the
public.
I
just
want
to
throw
out
a
suggestion
for
maybe
because
you
have
to
consider
staff
if
the
words
additional
revenue
were
supplanted
with
new
fees,
so
it
was
a
bit
more
confined.
I
just
wonder
if
that
might
help
us
narrow
the
focus
to.
I
think
what
customer
dip
is
most
concerned
about,
but
we'll
come
back
on
that
issue.
Let's
go
to
the
public
and
we'll
hear
some
more
from
the
panel
thereafter.
F
Yeah
hi,
thank
you.
It
is
unmuted.
Thank
you.
There
are
going
to
be
many
accountability,
accountability
issues
for
this
item.
I
can
cover
many
subjects:
you're,
currently
working
on
measure,
t
oversight,
accountability
as
well,
and
you
know
it
was
meant
measure.
T
was
originally
meant
to
address
like
a
number
of
issues.
F
F
You
know
it
was
supposed
to
have
public
oversight,
ideas
with
technology
as
well,
and
I
think,
with
coved
those
are
going
to
kind
of
get
you
know
thrown
by
the
wayside.
The
technologies
oversight,
ideas
you
know,
so
I
hope
I
can't
stress
enough.
The
ideas
of
you
know
to
create
some
sort
of
public
oversight
committee
for
the
future
of
technology.
F
O
Good
afternoon,
mayor
licardo
and
city
council
members,
eddie
chong
with
the
silicon
valley
organization,
I
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
the
councilmember
dave's
memorandum
for
good
government
reforms.
First,
I
want
to.
I
want
to
point
out
two
items
that
we
are
particularly
supportive
of,
which
is
first,
is
the
budget
stabilization
fund
concept?
O
If
we
were,
if
we
had
this
budgetary
item
prior
to
the
covet
economic
recession,
then
I
think
that
we
would
be
in
a
better
place
today,
but
instead
of
looking
back,
we
can
certainly
look
forward
and
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
prepare
ourselves
for
the
next
crisis
and
to
really
create
some
kind
of
a
fiscal
resiliency
fund.
So
the
city
can
better
weather
such
storms.
And
the
second
item
is
the
performance
audits.
O
In
particular,
whenever
there
are
budgetary
constraints,
we
should
do
everything
we
can
to
ensure
that
we're
optimizing
limited
budget
dollars
and
to
ensure
that
we
are
delivering
the
best
quality
services
that
we
can
through
the
city,
and
so
with
that
said,
I
want
to
express
our
support
for
council
mercury's
memo
and
please
move
forward
with
the
accountability
measures.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
coming
back
to
the
panel
catherine,
did
you
want
to
respond.
M
Yeah,
so
thank
you.
I
I'm
fine
with
the
the
replacing
additional
revenue
with
fees,
I
think,
from
a
constituent
perspective.
Most
people
are
concerned
with
you
know
every
every
election
cycle
there's
some
sort
of
ballot
measure,
and
I
think
that
was
really
the
thrust
of
it.
I
I
didn't
envision
it
to
to
what
lee
was
saying
where
every
every
little
thing
was,
and
I
don't
even
think
the
voters
or
the
residents
even
are
aware
of
every
little
increase
that
we
do
right.
M
So
I
think
their
concern
is
mainly
you
know
you
raise
my
taxes
for
something,
and
am
I
getting
the
benefit
of
that
and
that's
essentially
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at.
D
P
Yeah,
this
is
jim,
jim,
shannon
city's
budget
director.
I
think
you
know
with
you
know:
we
have
a
proposed
fees
and
charges
document
that
we
put
out
as
part
of
the
budget
process
every
every
year,
and
invariably
there
are
a
number
of
small
small
fees
that
are
a
part
of
that
document.
They're.
You
know
they
have.
You
know
numerous
fees
to
serve
very
specific
purposes
for
specific
services
that
are
requested
by
residents
or
businesses.
P
I
think
even
having
the
word
fees
in
there,
without
maybe
some
thresholds
becomes
probably
more
administratively
burdensome
than
probably
is
wanted.
As
part
of
this
memo,
I
think
maybe
the
other
thing
to
consider
is,
you
know
we
know.
Certainly
the
neighborhoods
commission
is
is
the
oversight
body
for
the
local
sales
tax
measure.
You
know,
I
think
I
think
you
know
those
that
have
been
pretty
narrowly
focused
for
that
particular
ballot
measure.
P
So
we
have
measure
e
we've
got
measure
b,
you've
got
measure,
t
we've
got
the
old
public
safety
bond
fund
oversight
committees
to
for
measure
measures
o,
and
so
I
think
I
think
also
one
of
the
challenges
one
to
consider
is
that
this?
P
How
does
this
differ
from
those
individual
committees
that
already
exists
for
those
measures,
and
how
does
this
differentiate
substantially
from
the
budget
review
and
publications
that
are
sort
of
already
out
there,
that
that
provides
some,
some
a
lot
of
information
on
sort
of
how
the
dollars
are
coming
in
and
what
they're
spent
on,
and
I
have.
I
have
another
comment
on
some
some
thoughts
on
recognition,
one
two:
if,
if,
when
you're
ready
to
talk
about
that
as
well,
you
can
do
that
now.
M
No,
I
I
appreciate
that.
I
I
recognize
that
for
every
bout
measure
we've
done
so
far,
we
we
basically
have
a
separate
oversight
committee
or
something
to
that
effect
anyway.
I
I
think
there's
some
benefit
to
having
some
sort
of
continuity
with
just
one
or
the
neighborhoods
commission,
or
some
commissioner
with
that
responsibility,
rather
than
assembling
a
new
body
every
single
time
we
we
run
a
ballot
measure
which,
which
seems
to
be
what
we
would
typically
do.
M
So
I
just
wanted
to
have
like
a
body
with
standard
responsibility
that
the
public
can
look
to
with
some
regularity,
same
name
same
scope
of
work
that
they
would
issue
as
often
as
we
had
these
kind
of
revenues
increases.
So
that
was
that
was
my
thinking
there
and
I
understand
the
in.
I
understand
the
the
reluctance
to
be
overly
burdensome,
and
that's
not
my
intent
at
all.
So
we
can
word
this.
M
However,
it
makes
the
most
sense
so
that
it's
not
capturing
every
single
fee
increase
throughout
the
city,
but
I
I
think
my
intent
was
from
a
ordinary,
just
person
living
in
san
jose
having
their
property
tax,
increased,
it's
a
black
hole
to
them,
and-
and
they
say
that
you
know
the
ballot
measure
argues
for
something
and
they
don't
know
if
they
see
the
benefit
of
it.
M
So
it's
really
creating
a
body
or
pointing
to
somebody
with
and
embodying
them
with
some
empowering
them,
with
some
sort
of
trust
from
the
from
the
community
to
say
this
is
these:
are
the
this?
Is
the
group
that
you
can
look
to
and
they're
going
to
issue
a
standard
report
every
year
or
however
often
there's
a
fee
or
a
property
tax
increase?
And
you
can?
You
can
say
yes
they're,
going
to
confirm
independently
that
the
government
spent
it
on
what
we
we've
advocated
for
when
we
proposed
it.
L
Okay,
cancer
cameras.
I
Sorry
mayor,
yes,
I
am,
I
had
a
similar
questions.
I
I
really
love
the
objective
quite
frankly,
but
I,
but
it
is
a
little
vague.
Are
we
also
going
to
be
backwards?
Looking
councilmember,
jeff,
meaning
looking
at
our
own,
for
example
our
own
policies
that
that
that
that
that
actually
cause
us
to
to
spend
more
money
like
living,
wage
prevailing
wage
policies
and
and
our
own
departments
that
may
not
need
to
exist?
I
M
Think
it
was
just
moving
forward.
I
don't
the
I
think
as
part
of
the
audit
process.
We
we
may
come
up
with
that
through
the
the
audit
process,
but
this
is
all
intended
to
be
forward-looking.
I
I
don't.
I
don't
mean
to
go
back
and
reinvent
everything,
but
I
think
if
we
have
some
new
changes
and
systems
in
place
moving
forward,
we
can
and
be
more
nimble
and
more
transparent
to
the
public,
so
no,
not
backward
looking
but
forward-looking.
M
As
as
often
as
there's
work,
I
I
recognize
that
they're
not
going
to
be
like
the
parks
parks
commission
that
that
meets
regularly.
I
I
they're
probably
more
like
the
salary
setting
commission
when
there's
work,
they're
called
to
assemble
and
they'll.
Do
it
that
way.
I
E
Part
item
two
was
read,
but
I
think
we've
discussed
some
alternatives
that
would
make
it
and
some
language
changes
that
would
make
it
more
manageable.
E
So
I'm
assuming
this
would
go
to
council
and
we'd
be
able
to,
in
the
interim
time
issue
a
memo
that
kind
of
lays
out
some
of
the
issues
and
just
kind
of
the.
I
know
jim
wanted
a
chance
to
talk
about
number
one,
but
just
provide
additional
context
to
the
council
when
this
does
come
to
to
the
council
for
for
discussion.
I
And
how
long
do
you
need
before
we
put
it
on
a
council
agenda.
E
I
I'm
very
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
not
so
much
that
we
need
so
much
time
and
I'm
just
looking
at
our
our
report
here.
I
I
would
recommend
that
we
we
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
september
22nd.
We
just
got
a
lot
stacked
up
over
the
next
three
weeks.
I
I
know
this
this
last
part
of
my
tenure
is
so
exciting.
I
get
midnight
meetings
every
meeting,
wonderful,
also,
if,
if,
if
I
will
move
the
memo
for
september
22nd
to
be
discussed
with
the
changes
that
staff
is
recommending
to
the
memo.
A
B
Thank
you,
councilman
canvas.
We
don't
want
you
get
cheated
out
of
a
single
minute.
B
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
if
there's
any
good
news
in
this
awful
time,
it's
that
we're
not
going
to
have
the
problem
behind
the
deal
with
a
budget
surplus
for
a
long
time.
So
I
don't
think
it's
urgent
that
we
decide
that
matter
this
week.
So
I
think
it's
okay,
that
that
lags
behind
vice
mayor
jones.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
just
go
down
each
one.
So
for
the
first
item,
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
and
actually
was
raised
in
the
early
consideration
response
form
was
just
the.
C
If
we
implement
something
like
this,
it
would
take
away
some
for
a
lot
of
the
discretion
that
we
have,
and
particularly
for
you
mayor,
you've,
been
allocating
reserves
and
budget
shortfall
dollars
the
whole
time
I've
been
on
the
council
and
even
though
you've
been
predicting
a
recession
for
the
last
five
and
a
half
years,
you've
been
wrong
that
you're
wrong.
C
C
B
Yeah,
the
big
question
is
how
you
define
budget
surplus,
because
whether
that's
defined
as
the
number
you
have
to
allocate
in
june
or
the
number
that
comes
back
in
the
september
report-
and
I
think
that
will
be
an
interesting
subject
for
robust
conversations
at
the
council.
B
I
haven't
thought
through
it
all
to
really
figure
all
that
out,
I
would
say:
look
I
don't
think,
there's
any
problem
with
us
tying
ourselves
to
the
mast
as
long
as
we
can
untie
ourselves
when
we
need
to-
and
I
think,
having
strong
guidance
that
we're
focused
on
building
reserves
is
an
important
thing
to
do
in
a
city
that
has
chronic
fiscal
challenges.
So
I
I'm
fine
with
it.
Obviously
I'm
out
of
here
in
two
years,
so
it'll
be
somebody
else's
challenge
to
deal
with
surpluses,
I'll
just
focus
on
deficits
right
now,.
C
Okay
and
jim,
I
I
know
that
you
said
you
want
to
also
speak
to
that.
That
item,
did
you
have
any
other
input
to
add.
P
Thank
you
vice
mayor
yeah,
just
a
couple
things,
so
I
the
way
I'm
reading
it.
It
would
be
something
you
know
when
the
council
member
references,
the
october
budget,
update
I'm
interpreting
that
to
mean
the
annual
report
process,
where,
if
we
have
any
additional
fund
balance
after
we
do
all
the
corrections
and
the
read
budgets
and
adjustments.
What's
that
amount
left
over?
What
do
you
do
with
that
amount?
P
And
I
think
the
the
the
good
news
from
my
perspective
is
that
you
know
council
has
given
us
some
good
direction
in
city
council
policy
1-8-18,
which
kind
of
gives
some
direction
about
how
to
allocate
that
fund
balance.
First,
we
make
sure
we
we
we
fill
up
our
reserve
for
next
year's
anticipated
deficit.
Then
once
that's
full,
then
what
we
do
is
we
look
to
the
budget.
Stabilization
reserve,
the
contingency
reserve,
unmet,
deferred
in
infrastructure
and
then
any
other
urgent
needs
there.
P
You
know
so
I
think
you
know
if,
when
we
come
back
with
this
item,
I
think
we
will
probably
want
to
recommend
you
know
a
modification
of
city
of
that
city,
council
policies
and
that's
really
served
the
council
well
over
this
time
and
maybe
there's
some
nuance
there
that
that
we
might
want
to
put,
I
think
I
mean
we
are
already
planning
if
there
is
any
extra
fun
fun
balance
I
mean
I
think,
this
time
around
the
budget
stabilization
reserve.
Is
it
right?
P
You
know
we
may
want
you
know
we'll
put
our
heads
around
it
and
see
you
know
what
sort
of
discretion
or
leverage
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
still
available
to
council
to
address
things
like
unmet
deferred
infrastructure,
which
is
always
you
know,
is
a
1.5
billion
dollars
and
growing.
So
that's
a
key
consideration,
and
just
other
thing
to
think
about
is
that
you
know
this
is
a
15
of
the
general
fund.
Right
now
will
be
about
190
million
dollars,
so
it's
certainly
a
long
hill
to
climb
to
get
there.
P
But
that's
just
sort
of
the
the
nuance
that
that
I
wanted
to
throw
out
there
and
if
the
council
member
has
any
concerns
about
us
looking
at
that
city
council
policy
as
as
one
of
the
one
of
the
tools
to
to
look
at.
Maybe
this
change.
M
No,
I
I
I'm
fine
with
that.
I
mean
because
in
in
my
memo
to
the
mayor's
point
to
me,
there's
no
question
about
trying
to
go
after
a
budget
surplus
in
june
versus
october
to
or
september
I'm
I'm
talking
about
after
we
go
to
the
typical
budget
cycle
and
when
we
do
all
the
readjustments,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
every
bill
or
every
obligation
we
have
as
a
city
is
accounted
for,
and
I
don't
even
anticipate
this
to
be
to
come
into
play.
M
You
know
in
the
next
two
three
years
it's
going
to
be
further
down,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
kind
of
instinct
and
rule
in
place
that
whenever
we
get
to
the
good
times
again-
and
there
is
a
surplus
extra
money,
it's
gonna
be
unrestricted
dollars
right
and
there's
going
to
be,
this
urge
to
to
spend
to
make
up
for
all
the
years
of
lien
spending.
M
But
I
think,
even
when
we
face
that,
we
should
continue
to
be
disciplined,
and
I
recognize
that
15
is
a
lot
but
to
the
extent
that
we
can
pay
ourselves
first
and
and,
like
you
know
like
when
I,
when
I
was
in
high
school,
I
learned
from
a
like
a
econ
professor
or
professor
teacher
high
school
teacher
and
just
out
of
listening
to
that
one
class
day.
M
Whenever
I
got
my
first
paycheck
and
ever
since
I've
just
put
away
10
of
my
paycheck
and
just
pretended,
I
didn't,
have
it
and
then
spent
the
rest
on
comic
books
and
and
whatever
else
right.
But
but
such
you
know,
stashing
away
that
ten
percent
has
been
a
good
habit
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
bring
to
the
city
for
public
finances
as
well.
E
P
We
would
you
know
one,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
are
going
to
happen
the
next
few
weeks
here,
as
we
kind
of
finalize,
where
we're
going
to
end
up
for
19
1920,
but
regardless
there
are
a
number
of
budgetary
transactions
that
we
need
to
do
in
any
given
given
year.
You
know
if,
including
you
know,
addressing
additional
shortfalls
that
may
come
up
as
part
of
the
interview
too.
So.
E
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
here
would
still
would
apply
even
in
in
these
deficit
years
yeah,
so
I
I
just
didn't
want
to
give
anyone
the
impression
that
we
would.
This
would
be
something
we'd
be
talking
about
two
or
three
years
from
now.
I
think
we'll
be
talking
about
it
every
year.
During
the
annual
report.
M
Yeah
yeah
sure-
and
I
think
thank
you
for
the
clarification
and
that's
good
to
know
that
we
still
might
find
some
excess
dollars
even
in
these
lean
years,
but
even
still
my
my
vision
is
not
to
compete
with
other
needs
of
the
city.
I
think
it's
really
to
just
exercise
some
discipline
on
the
council
that
when
we
have
these
extra
dollars,
we
don't
go.
You
know
how
about
this
project
and
finding
ways
to
spend
them.
M
I
think
we
should
just
be
very
clear
up
front
that
our
our
priority
is
to
save,
first
and
foremost,
to
build
up
that
reserve
fund
again.
C
Okay,
jim
I'm
gonna
show
you
the
difference
between
a
lawyer
answering
that
question
and
a
business
person
with
a
business
background.
Answering
that
question.
I'm
only
supportive
of
a
strategy
of
figuring
out
how
we
can
modify
policy
1.18
to
incorporate
council
member
dep's
recommendation,
but
in
that
context
of
that
policy.
C
C
So
it
would
be
great
if
it
was
like
a
single
standing
commission
just
to
be
just
to
have
some
clarity
on
that,
and-
and
I
really
like
the
idea
of
the
neighborhoods
commission
being
that
that
entity.
C
The
item
number
three
and
I'd
like
to
hear
it
quickly
from
from
alex,
but
I
was
on
the
impression
that
that's
the
way
the
process
has
been
working
all
along.
Do
we
need
to
have
you
know,
council
direction
to
to
put
that
a
process
in
place
so
alex?
Can
you
educate
us
on
what's
going
on.
J
Yeah
sure,
alexandria,
felton
senior
executive
analyst
with
the
office
of
intergovernmental
relations.
So
yes,
that
actually
is
the
current
process
that
we
have
so
on
a
regular
basis.
We
update
council,
we
and-
and
we
sort
of
align
that
with
both
the
federal
and
state
budget
when
that
comes
into
place.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
that's
on
in
terms
of
priority
setting,
that's
on
for
that's
been
green
lighted
by
staff.
J
So
that's
part
of
the
the
typical
process
that
we
actually
at
when
the
when
the
initial
budget
is
introduced,
the
governor's
budget
in
january
usually
we'll
put
out
a
and
it
will
put
out
an
info
memo.
We
also
do
two
updates
to
council
one
in
march
and
one
in
early
june,
and
then
we
have
our
larger
update
in
november,
which
actually
coincides
with
when
on
the
federal
government
somewhere
around
the
period
when
the
federal
government
is
approving
the
final
budget
for
for
the
federal
government.
C
Okay,
great
and
then
last
but
not
least
joe
on
on
the
items
that
council
member
deb
was
recommending
that
you
focus
on
in
some
form
or
fashion
we're,
as
you
already
stated,
we're
doing
those
types
of
audits.
But
I
know
that,
for
each
department
is
really
going
into
specific
areas
of
that
department,
as
opposed
to
a
comprehensive
audit
of
the
whole
department,
is,
is
your
understanding
that
are
you
comfortable
with
having
a
process
where
you
do
a
comprehensive
audit
of
the
whole
department,
as
opposed
to
individual
aspects
of
that
department?.
N
I
guess
that's
a
question
I
would
have
for
clarity.
Usually,
as
you
said,
we
do
look
at
individual
programs,
or
course
services
as
opposed
to
the
whole
department.
The
the
question
is
is
when
we
take
on
something
that
broad.
We
can't
go
that
deep.
When
we
look
at
a
program
and
focus,
then
we
can
get
pretty
deep
into
it
and
that's
where
we
really
find
the
process
efficiencies
and
the
budget
savings.
N
I
read
it
as
hitting
the
departments,
but
not
necessarily
that
audit
part
you
know
prs
because,
for
example,
the
we
just
we'll
be
wrapping
up
a
parks,
maintenance
audit
shortly
that'll
have
a
bunch
of
process
efficiency
pieces.
Last
year
we
did
marriage
prevention
task
force.
We
looked
at
community
center
rios
before
that,
so
these
were
programs
that
we
took.
So
I
read
it
as
more.
In
that
vein,
did
I
am
I
wrong
on
that.
C
Author
to
defer
to
council
member
depp
on.
M
C
Great,
that's
it!
That's
all
from
all
my
questions,
mayor
great.
D
J
G
Is
this
open
forum
mayor?
It
is
yes,
oh
okay,
okay,
hey
that's
a
good
one,
deb
good
one!
I
was
following
it
the
whole
time
man.
G
This
is
like
mind-boggling
man,
because
the
only
time
that
I
like
came
across
this
form
of
communication-
and
this
kind
of
like
really
rich
coded
talk,
was
around
certain
types
of
people,
and
I
just
I
I
didn't
expect
that
form
of
communication
within
the
context
of
my
own
city
government,
that
that
is
like
kind
of
like
it's
a
it's
a
bit
disconcerting
kind
of
kind
of
kind
of,
knocks
me
off
balance,
because
if,
if
the
communication
is
clear
between
the
city
and
the
the
constituent-
and
this
is
the
form
to
do
it-
not
in
some
back
room,
not
not
with
some
little
small
core
group
but
out
in
the
open
form,
so
that
so
that
it
it
can
be,
it
can
be
up
for
examination
for
whatever
it
is,
that's
what
they
did
in
the
greek
forms
in
the
greek
forms.
G
They
threw
it
out
there
and
they
just
they
just
went
ahead
and
tore
up
and
whatever
was
left.
That
was
truth.
Not
this.
I
don't
know
just
what's
been
going
on
here,
but
I
have
an
appreciation
for
it
because
it
actually
is
the
method
that's
being
employed
to
conduct
city
city
business
and,
like
I
said
with
I'm
the
only
place
that
I'm
coming
from
is
from
the
historical
context
here
in
san
jose,
and
I
just
I
don't
see
enough.
G
D
F
Hi
to
speak
openly
and
to
offer
my
guesswork,
so
you
can
so
we
can
all
consider
issues.
It's
my
feeling
that
you
know
by
late
fall.
We
should
have
some
vaccine
ideas
going
on
and
being
passed
along,
but
we
won't
be.
You
know
so
be
on
the
way
to
curing
ourselves,
but
you
know,
as
a
society
you
know,
april
2021
is
kind
of
like
the
official
date
that
we're
preparing
that
we're
not
going
to
be
together
until
then
measure
14
38.
I
think
it
is
housing
measure.
E
F
Been
talking
about
it
as
power
stuff,
it's
really
important
good
stuff
is
a
don't
forget,
ab1410,
which
actually
adds
10
years
to
the
ideas
of
1438.
Instead
of
just
two
or
three
and
for
1438
to
be
open,
it
has
to
do
that
for
itself.
It
can't
be
a
certain
amount
of
time.
It
has
to
be
an
open
amount
of
time
and
that
I
hope
my
words
from
public
record.
I
hope
you
can.
I
hope
it
wasn't
too
strong.
F
I
hope
you
can
really
help
the
person
there,
and
it's
from
that
that
I
think
we
can
all
learn
good
important,
helpful
hopeful
lessons
with
42
seconds.
I
wanted
to
comment
on
open
forum
last
night
after
a
real
long
session.
I
think
what
you
heard
from
open
forum
last
night
was
incredible.
I
mean
I
really
want
to
speak
in
those
terms
too
about
you,
guys
are
figuring
out.
You
know
bureaucratic
ways
to
deal
with
issues
right
now,
but
why
is
it
not
speaking
enough?
F
You
know
to
you
know,
issues
that
appear
to
ask
that
you
know
san
jose
should
have
had
the
foresight
to
know
that
that
would
be
causing
damage
in
this
time
of
kobe.
Why
wasn't
that
considered,
and
why
were
you
talking
about
it
in
terms
the
way
you
were?
That's
the
insensitivity?
That's
that's
really
being
questioned
right
at
this
time
and
how
to
deal
with
the
accountability
ideas.
Liam
dip
was
just
talking
about
to
conclude
here.
How
can
that
relate
to
the
public?