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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of March 2, 2022
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A
A
A
B
B
Jones
here
thank
you
and
sylvia
how
I
handle
that
is
when
I
do
that.
I
say
yes,
I'm
here.
B
A
A
Oh
ham
just
went
up
for
natalya
anon.
E
Yes,
hi,
let's
see,
let
me
see
if
I
can
okay,
I
guess
I
can
just
speak.
You
don't
see
me,
but
I'm
going
to
speak
about
on
the
behalf
of
the
local
ukrainian
community.
A
Natalia
that's
actually,
item
c1,
okay,
so
raise
your
hand
when
we
get
to
c1.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Okay,
back
to
the
committee.
F
Yeah
just
a
quick
question
lee
I
asked
this
last
night,
but
I
don't
see
the
resolution
from
last
week's
on
either
of
these
two
agendas.
So
I'm
just
curious
coming
out
an
ad
sheet
next
week
to
the
agenda.
Is
that.
D
Yeah,
we're
gonna,
add
it
as
an
ad
sheet.
I
think
we're
waiting
to
get
more
formal
language
from
the
secretary
of
state
on
the
proposed
ballot
measure
so
that
we
can
include
that
in
the
packet.
But
we
do
incline
to
add
that
for
next
week,.
C
A
G
All
right,
we'll
be
in
here
there's
an
item
on
this
agenda
about
there'll,
be
a
public
hearing
about
the
mayor's
speech
on
budget
proposals
for
2023
and
24.
G
that,
hopefully,
is
kind
of
how
you
say
it
this
and
along
with
a
couple
items
from
the
previous
agenda,
you
know
you'll
be
talking
about
budget
issues
and
and
reports
for
the
following
few
months
and
following
few
years,
I'm
kind
of
making
it
a
point
at
this
time.
To
please
ask
to
how
can
I
hope
that
you
can
learn
how
to
talk
about
within
memos,
and
you
know
and
and
policy.
G
I
think
san
jose
has
taken
a
really
interesting
leadership
role
in
natural
disaster
preparedness
practices
at
the
committee
level
that
I
think
has
been
incredibly
valuable
for
the
community
to
understand
and
prepare
for
wildfire
for
earthquake
for
sea
level
rise
issues,
and
you
know
I'm
just
a
bit
uncertain
what
to
expect
in
2023
and
24..
If
you
create
a
a
standard
of
what
to
expect
in
the
memos
and
a
language,
you
know
for
the
for
what
what
we
can
expect
for
2023-24,
you
know
good
or
bad.
G
I
think
it
can
set
an
important
pace
for
the
bay
area,
how
to
work
and
how
we
can
better
speak
to
each
other
if
there
is
actually
a
natural
disaster
preparedness
things
we
have
to
prepare
for
in
the
next
few
years
to
do
that
through
the
memo
process
and
to
do
that
honestly
would
be
incredibly
helpful
and
make
conversation
easier
for
ourselves
and,
if
that's
not
happening,
that
can
be
easier
for
ourselves
too
then,
and
we
don't
have
to
sweat.
G
B
To
the
council,
thank
you
before
we
entertain
a
motion
lee.
I
didn't
ask
on
the
previous
agenda,
but
I
will
ask
on
this
one
so
that
you
don't
get
through
a
rules
meeting
without
me
asking
in
terms
of
load
balancing.
Is
there
anything
that
we
could
do
on
the
for
the
mean
of
the
15th
to
make
sure
that
we're
balancing
the
agenda
items.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor
lee,
wilcox
assistant
city
manager,
we've
actually
done
that
to
kind
of
make
way
for
the
budget
discussion
on
the
15th
with
the
mayor
and
council
so
items,
some
items
have
actually
moved
up
to
the
eighth
and
other
items
have
been
moved
to
later
agendas
later
on.
In
march.
B
B
Thank
you,
okay,
on
to
the
consent
calendar
tony,
do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak
blair
beekman.
G
Hi
blair
beekman
here
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
commenting
on
public
record
being
a
part
of
the
consent,
calendar
kind
of
an
interesting
idea.
It's
definitely
efficient
good
luck
with
his
practices.
I
got
pretty
upset
about
it
a
few
weeks
ago.
I'm
sorry
about
that.
I
hopefully
I'm
learning
important
lessons
how
to
better
speak
about
issues,
and
just
thanks
for
your
patience
with
things
for
the
public
record
this
week.
There
are
a
lot
of
letters
on
continuing
issues
about
gun
control.
G
I
hope
the
gun,
control
community
or
the
people
who
I
guess
who
want
their
guns
without
taxes
on
and
such
fees.
I
hope
they
can
work
to
hold
the
mayor
and
city
government
accountable
for
what
they're
starting
to
embark
on
with
these
practices.
G
So
good
luck,
how
we
can
really
do
this?
Well,
I
think
it
has
really
good
potential,
and
these
are
my
feelings
about
the
subject.
Thanks.
H
Hi,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
public
comment
on
martha
o'connell's
letter.
I
echo
everything
that
she's
written
and
I
especially
echo
the
part
about
where
it's
you
know
really
important
for
whoever's
running
the
meetings
to
feel
that
they
have
the
confidence
that
they
can
just
kind
of
cut
that
caller
off
that's
abusing
the
code
of
conduct.
H
I
wholeheartedly
support
it
and
I've
been
impressed
with
the
patience
of
council
members
and
the
mayor
at
all
times.
I
really
have
been
because
I
I
don't
know
if
I'd
have
that
decorum,
but
thank
you
for
that,
but
I
do
support
martha's
words.
I
think
they're
really
really
important,
and
so
thank
you
for
what
you
do
for
the
community
allowing
us
to
speak,
but
I
support
it
when
you
need
to
just
cut
people
off.
I
think
it's
critical.
H
The
next
letter
I'd
like
to
comment
on
is
from
the
silicon
valley,
leadership
group,
where
they're
addressing
the
region's
housing
crunch-
and
you
know
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
record
that
back
in
about
2016,
I
contacted
the
silicon
valley
leadership
group
on
many
occasions
and
asked
their
support
and
help
for
the
displacement
issue
around
the
bay
area
plan.
H
Excuse
me
the
plan
bay
area
and
then
also
our
general
plan,
which
was
basically
and
is
basically
all
the
cons.
Entire
concept
is
based
on
redevelopment
of
existing
lower
income.
Excuse
me
lower
density
properties,
and
I
begged
them
several
times.
They've
been
on
the
they're,
been
on
every
single
bayer
plan
situation.
There
is
you
know
whether
it's
on
a
task
force,
whether
they're
on
you
know
various
in
various
positions
of
influence,
and
they
were
almost
rude
to
me
and
I
just
had
to
say
that
for
the
record
they
were
saying
nope.
H
You
know
we
don't
care
that
you
know
700
people
are
being
displaced.
I
mean
that's
almost
what
they
said.
We
are
in
support
of
these
projects
being
redeveloped.
So
for
the
record,
I'm
glad
they're
coming
out
and
supporting
this
issue
with
the
housing,
but
in
the
past
they
have
not
been
so
gracious.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
man.
I
appreciate
it.
Hello,
everybody,
brian
darby,
here
speaking
on
my
own
self,
I
think
it's
important
that
that
the
consent
calendar
does
reflect
all
of
the
information
that
we
need
and
it's
much
clearer
than
it
used
to
be.
So
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
the
other
thing
that
I'm
looking
at
is
the
kids.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
this
right:
the
approval
of
the
kids
care
community
events.
I
J
Yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor
and
just
speaking
to
mark
o'connell's
letter
as
well.
I
I
appreciate
that
she
took
the
time
and
had
the
courage
to
drop
that.
I
think
that
you
know
there's
no,
no
secret.
Amongst
us.
We
recognize
there
are
people
that
have
not
only,
I
think,
abused
some
of
the
the
the
leniency
in
the
the
topics
of
discussion
for
their
own
purposes,
but
we've
also
had,
I
think,
threatening
and
intimidating
speakers
and
martha
highlights
that
we
are
not
the
only
victims
of
that
right.
J
Recipients
of
that
is
that
it's
transferred
on
to
even
other
public
participants
and
for
me
that
that
you
know,
gets
to
a
point
of
just
completely
unacceptable.
I
recognize
that
we,
as
elected
officials
right,
we
are
subject
to
a
bit
more
scrutiny
in
abuse
than
our
our
public
is,
but
once
once
it
gets
to
a
point
where
those
that
want
to
participate
are
now
feeling
intimidated
to
to
not
do
so,
and
I
think
you
know
completely
unacceptable,
and
I
was
not
fully
aware
of
some
of
that.
J
I
actually
think
the
reason
he
lost
his
cool
is.
He
was
following
suit
of
other
public
speakers
and
I
think,
unfortunately,
right
that
that
translation
is
not
only
intimidating
certain
people,
but
it's
encouraging
poor,
behavior
and-
and
you
know
I-
I
truly
respect
the
way
blair
engages
with
us
and
hope
that
he
continues
to
do
so.
But
I
certainly
do
not
hope
that
we
we
see
a
continued,
either
abuse
or
or
intimidation
and
see
that
that
grow
and
transpire.
J
I
know
that
we're
conscious
of
it
we're
trying
to
do
something
about
it
and
the
you
know
the
role
of
decorum
is
not
easy,
as
I
have
to
chair
the
the
piss
fizz
meetings.
I
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
these
ones
every
single
week,
but
it's
it's
certainly
a
challenge
and
just
appreciate
our
community
for
speaking
up
on
that
as
well
and
with
that
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent.
Thanks.
J
K
B
A
G
Hi
blair
beekman
here
thanks
a
lot
for
the
words
of
raul,
corrales
yeah.
A
G
Try
to
grow
with
the
process.
I'm
I'll
speak
more
of
public
comment
time
about
this.
Thank
you
for
this
item.
I'm
gonna
offer
opinion
that
that
will
make
yourselves
uncomfortable,
but
I
think
it
really
needs
to
be
talked
about
that.
I
I
think
you
know
russia
is
actually
working
towards
the
ideas
of
peace
for
the
future
of
the
ukraine.
G
They
are
not
there
just
to
dominate
and
and
and
and
further
their
empire.
They
really
want
peace
for
that
region.
They
have
chosen
a
way
for
that
peace.
That
is
really
possibly
the
very,
very
wrong
way
to
work.
There
could
have
been
a
much
softer
approach.
I
tried
to
mention
yesterday
at
council
meetings
that
could
have
done
the
same
thing
and
could
have
offered
a
long-term
negotiated
process.
G
Much
like
we
do
here
with
our
issues
at
the
domestic
level
day
to
day
like
on
the
future
of
policing
and
russia
chose
not
to
follow
that
model.
G
There
there's
a
component
where
russia
there's
a
fossil
fuel
economy,
going
on
and
there's
a
battle
between
a
fossil
fuel
economy
and
a
renewable
economy
and
we're
separating
ourselves
and-
and
it
is
part
of
that
process-
there's
a
lot
of
play
here
and
I
I
feel
that
if
you
blame
the
citizens
of
the
russian
town
sister
city,
that
you
want
to
end,
that's
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
russia
who
are
very
seriously
against
the
way.
Russia
is
acting
right
now
and
there
could
be
much
more
peaceful
ways
to
go
about.
G
What
is
a
question
we
all
need
to
ask:
how
do
we
create
a
piece
for
the
future
of
the
ukraine
region
that
takes
work
from
all
of
us?
Not
alienation?
It
takes.
You
know,
peace,
a
process,
a
negotiative
process
for
all
of
us.
Please
consider
that
don't
do
this
sister
city
stuff.
The
other
issues
are
fine.
Please
don't
hurt
the
sister
city
issue.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
address
whatever
the
previous
speaker
said
that
he's
completely
uninformed
ukraine
is
a
peaceful
country.
Was
a
peaceful
country?
Wasn't
didn't
want
anything.
It's
a
democracy,
multi-ethnic
people
had
freedom
to
elect
the
official
freedom
to
speech
and
russia
in
a
while
act
of
aggression
is
committing
crimes
against
humanity
right
now,
and
that
has
to
be
stopped,
and
I
absolutely,
on
behalf
of
all
the
ukrainian
american
community
support
number
one
to
sever
all
the
ties
with
the
city
of
the
cutting
board,
because
russian
nation
is
responsible
for
breeding.
E
This
monster,
who
putin
is
just
go
on
social
media?
Go
on
the
news,
see
what
they're
doing
right
now:
they're
bombing
civilians,
they're
bombing
hospitals
kindergartens
completely
innocent
people.
I
don't
know
how
many
children
have
already
died
ukrainian
community
here
is
devastated.
Our
hearts
bleed.
We
cannot
sleep,
we
feel
helpless.
Something
has
to
be
done.
So
this
is
absolutely
the
right
action.
Ukraine
was
not
provoking
this
war.
Russia
is
committing
crimes
against
humanity
with
its
leader
putin.
E
So
I
highly
support
all
these
actions,
and
I
ask
for
more-
I
ask
for
more
because
there
are
many
high-tech
companies
located
here
in
silicon
valley
and
we
call
on
them
to
stop
and
to
punish
this
evil
and
to
sever
all
the
ties
with
the
russian
companies
to
stop
using
russian
products
and
services
so
that
those
peace,
loving
people
in
russia.
If
they
are
there,
they
come
on
the
streets,
they
change
their
government,
they
take
out
their
bloody
tyrant,
who's
killing.
There
is
a
slaughter,
please
everyone
have
no,
absolutely
no
evolution.
E
D
All
right,
this
is
dan
meyer,
so
that's
a
pretty
tough
one
to
follow.
D
So
I
I
guess
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
I
I
very
much
agree
with
the
last
caller,
except
I
think
that
let's
realize
that
the
russian
people
are
not
our
enemy.
It's
the
russian
government
and
the
russian
people
are
protesting
and
risking
their
freedom
and
their
lives
to
try
to
end
this
war.
So
so
yeah,
no,
not
much
argument
with
the
last
caller,
but
I
think
that
these
items
to
remove
the
sister
city
are
a
mistake
and
a
waste
of
time
and
taxpayer
money.
D
I
think
it's
admirable
to
reach
out
to
the
ukrainians
in
our
area
and
hear
from
them.
We
should
probably
do
more
of
that,
but
this
this
proposal,
this
rule
change,
seems
more
focused
on
just
getting
headlines
and
not
trying
to
enact
any
real
change.
D
So
what
I
would
suggest
is:
let's,
let's
focus
not
waste
our
time
on
this,
not
waste
taxpayer
money
and
try
and
help
the
people
that
we
have
locally.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
motion.
I
am
chair.
Emeritus
of
sister
cities,
international,
I'm.
Currently,
the
co-chair
of
the
san
jose
catenberg
sister
city
program
witnessing
the
horrific
events
of
the
past
week
in
ukraine.
B
We
instinctively
and
understandably
want
to
do
something
to
act,
to
demonstrate
our
collective
disapproval
of
this
assault
on
humankind
in
order
to
make
a
positive
difference,
but
suspending
or
ending
a
sister
city
relationship
with
a
russian
city
partner
should
not
be
one
such
action.
I
am
in
contact
daily
with
my
counterpart,
lena
nova,
maskaya.
B
She
and
her
neighbors
have
been
protesting
and
have
been
arrested
several
times
already,
with
respect
to
the
actions
that
are
going
on
and
in
our
role
as
citizen
diplomats.
B
While
suspending
or
ending
a
sister
city
relationship
to
register
disapproval
of
a
foreign
government's
actions
may
seem
on
the
surface.
Like
a
positive
policy
protest
action,
it
is,
it
has
the
complete
opposite
effect.
It
closes
off
a
vital
and
off
times
last
channel
of
communications
with
vulnerable
and
isolated
populations
at
the
people-to-people
level.
B
D
No
vice
mayor
other
than
staff
did
not
do
an
early
consideration
form
because
the
work
associated
with
it
is
relatively
straightforward,
but
also
most
of
the
proposals
deal
with
council
ultimate
approval
related
to
policy.
So
we
would
recommend
if
the
rules
committee
wishes
to
move
forward,
that
those
be
brought
forward
to
the
council.
B
Okay
and
last
question
is
the
issue
of
policy
0-11
and
what
what
we
can
and
can't
do
or
shouldn't
do
or
should
do
in
accordance
to
that
policy.
D
Yeah,
I
mean
I'll
defer
to
nora
from
a
legal
perspective,
except
to
say
that
you
know
it's
a
council
policy
that
you're
referencing
and
you
know
the
the
way
city,
manager's
office
and
city
attorney
office
and,
quite
frankly,
all
the
council
appointees.
You
know
the
the
policies
that
are
set
forth
in
the
council
police
policy
manual.
D
They
really
do
provide
a
road
map
and
guidance
for
us
on
our
day-to-day
operations,
and
you
know
ensure
compliance
with
laws,
regulations
and
sets
the
decision-making
framework
that
you
guys
as
a
council
work
under
as
well
as
sets
processes
for
our
own.
You
know
internal
processes
and
administration,
but
those
are
at
the
council's
purview
and
it
is
the
job
and
responsibility
of
the
council
to
bring
forth
policy
whether
is
related
to
the
council
policy
manual
or
not.
C
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
so
I
I
want
to
thank
those
folks
who
waited
to
speak
and
and
very
passionately
shared
what
they're
experiencing
due
to
the
this.
This
war
crimes
that
are
being
committed
against
their
home
country
and
themselves
really
and-
and
the
reason
I
I
came
up
with
this
memo-
was
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
symbolically
stood
with
with
our
ukraine
community.
C
You
heard
earlier
martha
can't
turn
off
her
her
tv,
because
it's
she's
so
impacted,
and
so
we
must
do
what
we
can
within
our
own
powers,
and
I
realize
that
our
powers
are
very
limited,
and
so
what
we
can
do
is
suspend.
I
I
never
said
terminate,
unlike
what
the
mayor
reflected
in
his
memo
when
he
said
that
I
wanted
to
end
our
city's
formal
diplomatic
relationship
is
what
he
said
in
his
memo,
and
that
is
incorrect.
C
What
I
asked
is
to
begin
the
process
of
suspending
our
sister
city
relationship
back
in
2013.
The
same
conversation
happened.
The
mayor
was
serving
at
that
time
and
they
decided
not
to
suspend
it
and
not
to
end
it
or
not
to
begin
that
process,
but
yet
there
wasn't
any
work
between
2013
to
now.
C
Nine
years
later
there
isn't
anything,
that's
being
done
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
san
jose
and
while
I
respect
greatly
tim
quickly,
thank
you
for
also
sharing
your
perspective.
I
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do,
I
believe
in
sister
cities.
I
bel,
I
believe,
in
broadening
our
horizons
and
be
being
those
global
citizens
that
sister
cities
relationships
allows
us
to
develop.
C
I
absolutely
believe
in
sister
cities
I've
never
been
something
I've,
we've
even
traveled
and
despite
being
criticized
by
our
own
mayor
of
traveling
and
developing
those
relationships,
we
did
that
anyways,
and
so
I
I
believe
the
the
mayor's
memo
really
is
is
personal
in
nature
against
me
and
not
necessarily
against
this
issue.
It
saddens
me
to
see
that
this,
this
kind
of
memo
get
developed
and
I'll
I'll
tell
my
my
rules
committee
members
that
the
mayor's
largest.
C
Issue
here
is
taking
symbolism
seriously,
the
purpose
and
principle
of
sister
cities,
and
so
he
goes
on
to
talk
about
why
sister
cities
were
developed
and
that
that
we
need
to
continue
to
have
this
dialogue
yet
from
2013
when
he
was
last
involved.
C
In
that
conversation,
I
don't
think
that
there
was
any
progress
made
in
in
order
to
reestablish
that
relationship
and
and
he
he
does,
support
the
tower
and
the
and
the
rotunda
being
lit,
and-
and
thank
you,
council,
member
cohen,
councilman
cohen's
here
today,
right,
okay,
there
he
is
I'm.
C
My
my
little
square
puts
people
on
certain
orders.
Sorry
thank
you,
councilmember
cohen,
for
your
leadership
and
and
for
supporting
our
community,
our
local
community.
This
way
the
the
symbolism
what
it
stands
for
with
people
that
have
friends
and
family
back
in
ukraine
is,
I
mean
you
heard
it
in
in
the
the
woman
who
called
earlier
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
her
natalia-
she,
I
think
said
it
very
well.
C
I
just
want
to
add
what
another
representative,
who
is
a
really
important
ukrainian-american
advocate
that
has
a
non-profit
based
in
santa
clara
county
and
he
wrote
because
he
couldn't
be
here
today.
He
said
thank
you
for
forwarding
the
memorandum
on
active
support
of
the
ukrainian
people
and
in
response
to
russia's
criminal
aggression
by
sylvia
rennis.
We
at
nova
ukraine
support
each
of
the
four
proposals
in
this
memorandum.
C
We
would
like
to
especially
emphasize
item
three
about
taking
an
active
position
of
support
of
federal
policies
and
item
four
about
engaging
with
the
local
immigrant
community.
In
particular,
we
are
already
seeing
refugees
arriving
from
uk
ukraine
to
the
bay
area
and
we
know
that
some
tourists
overstayed
their
visas
because
they
cannot
return
to
ukraine.
C
We
formed
a
coordination
team
for
legal
help
and
signing
up
immigration
law
firms
that
can
help
provide
services.
Pro
bono,
we
applaud
the
efforts
of
council
member
would
appreciate
support
offered
by
the
city
council,
and
so
that's
igor
markov,
the
board
of
directors
of
nova
ukraine,
who
is
also
having
a
rally
this
week
this
weekend
saturday
at
2
p.m,
in
front
of
city
hall.
For
those
of
you
who
want
to
join.
C
Let
me
just
go
back
to
the
memo,
because
I'm
going
to
make
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
my
original
memo
and
also
include
the
mayor's
item,
which
I
I
do
appreciate
is
2b,
which
is
informing
the
council,
I'm
sorry
2
to
be
supporting
the
resettlement
of
ukrainian
refugees
in
our
city.
I
think
that's
very
important
for
us
to
do
and
involve
our
immigrant
affairs
department
in
in
such
work,
which
I
I
believe
they're
already
doing.
So.
C
Thank
you
so
much
surma
for
her
work
in
this.
I
just
won't
stand
down
against
this,
because
these
are
these
are
war
crimes.
This
is
crimes
against
humanity.
As
you
heard
an
earlier
natalia,
speak
earlier,
and
and
really
who
why
shouldn't
we
as
a
council,
decide
what
is
symbolic
and
what
is
not,
and
why
are
we
being
prevented
from
having
that
conversation
about
how
we
can
support
ukraine,
and
so
with
that?
I'm
going
to
have
that
motion
and
looking
for
a
second.
L
Thank
you
mayor.
I
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
sure
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
russian
aggression
towards
ukraine
is
intolerable
and
it's
a
direct
attack
on
democracy.
The
attacks
on
civilians
personally
makes
me
ill.
It
is
those
are
war
crimes
that
is
devastating.
L
Not
only
to
the
ukrainian
people
but
to
but
to
all
of
us
into
so
many
I
think
it's
I
know
it's
over
a
quarter
of
a
million.
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
three
quarters
of
a
million
people
are
fleeing
ukraine
and
it's
very
obviously
very
worrisome,
but
the
russian
people
are
protesting
their
own
government
and
I
I
am
hesitant
for
all
the
reasons
tim
quigley
stated,
and
I
thank
you
tim
for
maintaining
that
relationship
and
and
really
you
know,
supporting
our
sister
city
counterparts,
who
have
been
protesting,
their
own
government.
L
We
talk
about
it
here,
it's
much
more
dangerous
to
to
protest
your
own
government
when
you're
in
russia-
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
maintain
those
lines
of
communication
and
in
fact
we
need
more
communication,
not
less.
That's
that's
really
concerning
to
me.
Radio
free
europe
helped
end
the
cold
war,
and-
and
it
was
all
about
countering
the
russian
propaganda,
the
soviet
propaganda.
L
L
To
the
ukraine,
and
so
we
are
liberation
as
well,
so
I,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
should
suspend
our
relationship.
So
with
that
I
I
would
like
to.
L
I
think
you
have
some
great
great
ideas,
council
member
arenas
in
your
memo,
so
I
would
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
include
your
eye
to
move
your
items,
two
three
and
four
and
then
the
mayor's
item
to
all
of
them,
and
I
know
that
the
rotunda
is
already
being
lit
and
the
sonic
runway
has
been
reprogrammed
also
with
the
the
flag,
the
colors
of
the
ukrainian
flag.
So
I
think
that
that
will
continue
over
time,
but
that
that's
my
substitute
motion
so
items
two.
L
Three
and
four
of
your
memo:
council,
member
uranus
and
then
item
two
from
mayor
locatos,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
there
that
we're
talking
about
something
that
is
a
little
bit
less
than
symbolic,
which
is
divestment,
potential
divestment
of
russian
assets.
B
All
right,
the
substitute
motion
was
moved
and
seconded
council
member
perales.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
you
know
I
appreciate
the
first
stop
that
the
memo
and
in
sparking
the
discussion
I
was
having
the
same
conversation
with
my
team
on
you
know
what
could
we
do
here
locally
and
I
think
we
were
all
likely
as
local
elected
officials
thinking
the
same.
How
do
we
step
up
at
this
time
and
make
a
statement
and-
and
I
thought
too
of
you
know
the
fact
that
we
have
a
sister
city
relationship
with
a
city
in
russia?
J
How
could
you
know
how
do
we
utilize
that,
I
I
will
say
right?
I.
I
do
not
believe
that
the
the
ultimate
best
goal
comes
out
of
of
simply
ending
a
relationship,
and
I
know
that
councilmember
and
then
understands
the
power
of
the
relationships
of
sister
cities,
because
she
has
experienced
that
personally
and
tim.
Thank
you
for
coming
to
speak,
because
I
I
know
that.
J
Obviously,
you
have
been
one
of
our
our
best
citizen
diplomats
in
volunteering
in
that
effort
to
strengthen
ties
with
this
people-to-people
relationship,
and
I've
had
the
the
personal
opportunity
of
being
able
to
serve
on
the
sister
city
international
board
and
truly
understanding
their
mission
and
and
goals,
and
recognize
that
you
know,
after
a
war,
time
and
tremendous
war
time
of
world
war
ii,
that
this
program
started
under
president
eisenhower
in
the
hope
was
to
avoid
this
type
of
conflict.
J
Quite
frankly
that
we're
seeing
today,
we
know
that
we
don't
have
truly
a
a
nation
to
be
proud
of
to
have
a
if
you
will
a
sister
relationship
with
in
russia.
That's
not
to
say
that
you
know
we
couldn't
be
proud
of
a
relationship
with
the
kettenberg,
but,
quite
frankly,
what
russia
is
doing
and
what
they
have
done
is
not
something
to
to
be
proud
of.
J
As
far
as
a
relationship
goes,
and
because
of
that,
I,
I
am
supportive
of
the
the
symbolism
of
making
that
very
clear
that
you
know
we
we,
we
are
not
in
favor
of
having
a
relationship
with
this
country.
J
Granted
there
may
be
many
many
people
in
a
kettenberg
that
you
know
we
are
in
agreement
with,
but
they're
they're
tight
at
the
hip,
and
so
I
recognized
it
as
much
as
you
know.
It's
it's
potentially
a
message
that
shows
our
solidarity
with
ukraine
that
there
are
community
members
in
a
kettenburg
right.
J
That
would
stand
with
our
values,
but
they
also
have
to
recognize
that
the
country
that
they're
within
and
that
that
that
symbolism
as
well
of
our
relationship,
our
city,
san
jose
california,
in
the
united
states,
in
a
partnership
with
their
city
and
their
country.
You
can't
separate
the
two.
J
J
I
think
this
could
be
a
benefit
actually
to
some
of
those
leaders
in
a
kettenburg
to
say.
Look
what's
happening
right.
Look
what's
happening
is
that
we
we
are
losing
the
the
the
friendships,
we're
losing
the
partnerships
that
we
have
across
the
country,
and
I
think
that
that's
what
this
message
could
could
send.
J
I
personally
hope
it
doesn't
have
to
get
to
that
and
with
that,
that's
why
I
I
actually
did
read
into
I
think
councilman
red
henness's
memo
correctly
in
in
initiating
a
suspension
here
that
it's
not
simply
blatantly
saying
hey.
We
want
to
terminate
this
today
and
let's
move
on
that.
J
It's
a
symbol
of
saying
we
are
not
willing
to
have
a
relationship
with
this
country,
any
city
in
this
country
and
and
send
that
message
and
and
what
I
hope
is
that,
and
we
can
utilize
people
like
tim
to
get
that
message
to
people
that
may
be
part
of
the
sister
city
program
in
russia
and
any
kettenberg
and
be
willing
to
take
that
message
and
use
it
for
good
and
be
able
to
use
it
and
say
this
is
the
kind
of
damage
that
we
are
creating.
J
And,
ultimately,
though,
I
do
recognize
that
the
right
severing
and
separating
relationships
is
not
going
to
build
up
better
relationships,
but
but
you
have
to
make
difficult
decisions
at
times,
and
you
can't
simply
just
stand
by
someone,
because
they
are
your
sister
or
your
brother
or
your
friend
when
they
are
doing
wrong.
J
It's
in
those
times
that
you
have
to
make
statements
that
are
tough,
where
you
may
actually
stand
back
from
your
own
family
and,
in
this
case,
symbolic
of
a
sister
city
relationship
standing
back
from
our
sister
city
relationship
to
call
out
what
is
wrong
and,
at
the
same
time
find
the
allies
there
to
lift
them
up
and
help
them
with
the
message
you
know
I
don't
want
to
leave.
J
People
like
who
tim
was
was
referring
to
right.
I
don't
want
to
leave
people
that
are
there
that
are
step
standing
up,
stepping
stepping
up
alone,
but
we
need
to
send
a
message
and-
and
I
do
think
that
we
we
can
help
in
this
regard.
J
I
would
say
the
other
point
of
this
that
that
makes
it
slightly
less
relevant
is
that
we
have
had
a
pretty
poor
relationship
with
the
kettenberg
anyways,
as
the
mayor
pointed
out
in
his
memo
for
a
couple
decades,
and
it's
likely
that
this
relationship
was,
you
know
on
the
path
of
being
suspended
regardless.
J
J
It
already
has
it's
already
generated
conversation
and
and
media
around
it,
and
I
think
that
that
is
positive,
and
I
again
I
I
hope
that
people
like
tim
are
willing
to
work
with
us
to
to
get
the
correct
message
to
our
counterparts
in
kettenberg
that
that
this
is
a
pathway
to
suspension,
and
we
hope
that
that
they
can
right
and
we
would
support
them
in
being
able
to
to
turn
this
situation
around
this.
The
atrocity.
I
I
I
I
watch
it
as
well.
J
I
can't
again
this
is
the
only
news
that
I'm
watching
currently
and
it
is.
It
is
terrifying
and
I
walk
outside
just
being
grateful
every
day
that
we
are
not
in
in
a
war
in
this
country
and
that
these
type
of
incidents
we're
so
blessed
and-
and
it
is,
it
is
terrifying
to
see
that,
and
I
do
think
that
the
message
needs
to
be
to
be
to
be
bold
as
much
as
we
can.
J
I
will
also
finish
with
I
I
I
do
take
offense
to
the
the
tone
and
the
language
and
the
mayor's
response
manual
to
council
member
adenos.
J
J
None
of
the
the
trips
I
have
been
on
have
been
about
frolic
and
play,
or
simply
a
travel
and
destination,
and
and
and
I
as
a
again
as
a
volunteer
board
member
for
sister
city
international,
have
given
up
my
own
personal
time
to
serve
the
organization
because
of
how
much
I
believe
in
that
mission
and
put
in
that
type
of
dedication
in
representing
our
city,
because
we,
as
representatives
the
sister
city
organization
and
relationships
with
any
cities
across
this
country
and
and
in
the
world,
don't
exist.
J
Unless
you
also
have
that
partnership
of
the
city
you
can
have
friends
in
one
city
and
friends
in
another.
It's
not
a
formal
sister
city
relationship.
Until
you
have
the
formal
relationship
with
a
city
government.
We
are
indeed
a
huge
part
of
the
sister
city
program
and
in
having
that
type
of
support
is
something
we
haven't
had
from
our
mayor.
And
so
I
was
surprised
to
see
such
a
strongly
worded
letter.
J
That
appeared
all
this
sudden
that
he
was
very
much
in
support
of
the
sister
city
program
or
the
or
the
goals
of
sister
city
international.
And
so
I
I
don't
think,
that's
the
route
that
he
needed
to
go
in
this
regard
and
it
felt
important
to
call
that
out
because
I
I
do
think
there's
some.
J
There
is
something
else,
an
undertone
of
that
message,
and
I
hope
my
colleagues
see
that
as
well,
that
that
what
councilman
dennis
is
trying
to
do
and
what
she
wrote
in
her
memo
is
not
a
blatant
disregard
and
not
something.
That's
just
trying
to
end
the
relationship.
J
I
know
that
again
personally
from
from
her
respect
and
understanding
of
this
program
and
and
I'm
happy
to
to
support
the
the
underlying
motion,
if
we
get
there,
I'm
also
happy
everything.
Obviously
in
the
substitute
motion
I
support
as
well,
but
I
do
hope
that
we
can
include
that
first
part
from
councilman
thanks.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
First,
I
want
to
thank
natalya,
who
was
here
speaking
so
passionately
and
emotionally
about
what's
happening
in
her
country.
I
just
earlier
today
was
actually
at
a
lunch
where
there
was
another
speaker,
a
student
named
valeria,
who
was
an
exchange
student
living
here
in
san
jose
right
now
from
ukraine
and
talked
about
her
conversations
with
her
family
and
what's
going
on,
and
she
was
crying
up
in
front
of
us.
F
Put
us
all
made
us
all:
go
get
the
tears
listening
to
her
stories
and
people
were
moved
to
donate
all
kinds
of
money
and
things
for
her
for
the
effort,
humanitarian
efforts
in
ukraine.
So
we
know
I
know
this.
This
is
an
incredibly
serious
moment
in
in
history,
and
we
were
all
I
know
last
week
glued
to
our
tvs
and
we
still
are
in
our
house
like
martha,
is
to
what's
going
on
on
a
daily
basis,
and
I
know
we
all
sat
around
last
week
thinking
about
well.
F
What
can
we
do
and
then
what
kind
of
statements
can
we
make
and
what
kind
of
action
that
can
we
take?
And
we
all
felt
we
had
to
do
something?
And
obviously
you
know
the
very
sim,
the
very
very
simple
symbolic
action
of
lighting
up
city
hall
was
something
very
simple
that
we
thought
of
in
our
office,
but-
and
I
very
much
appreciate
that
councilmember
arenas
was,
you
know,
thinking
more
broadly.
What
are
a
lot
of
the?
F
What
are
some
of
the
other
things
messages
that
we
can
send
at
the
city
of
san
jose,
and
I
was
very
sympathetic-
I'm
certainly
very
sympathetic
to
everything
in
that
memo
and
feel
that
there's
there's
good
reason
for
us
to
take
as
much
action
as
we
can
to
show
our
solidarity
with
ukraine-
and
I
know
also-
we
wouldn't
be
the
first
city
to
in
the
united
states
since
last
week
to
either
discuss
or
actually
take
action
to
suspend
sister
city
relationships
in
russia.
F
This
isn't
a
unique
thing:
it's
happened
in
other
cities.
Again,
it's
a
symbolic
way
of
saying
we
don't
you
know
we
don't
want
to
continue
to
have
to
glorify
any
kind
of
relationships
with
the
russian
with
russia
right
now
same
thing's
happening,
obviously
with
sports
leagues
and
others
who
are
saying
we're
not
going
to
compete
against
your
team.
We're
not
going
to
let
athletes
come
and
compete
in
our
events,
you
know,
regardless
of
whether
we
know
what
those
athletes
political
views
are.
F
F
That's
the
hope
at
least,
and
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
in
places
like
you
know
our
sister
city
and
other
cities
in
russia,
where
people
are
at
very
great
risk
to
themselves
standing
up
and
and
doing
the
right
thing.
So
you
know
I
I'm
I'm
on
the
fence
about
what's
the
right
thing
to
do
on
this
one,
I
do
think
that
including
the
the
divestment
item
from
the
mayor's
memo
is
really
important.
F
I
think
that
the
most
impactful
thing
that
we
can
do
now
is
end
the
world's
dependence
on
russian
oil
and
also
cut
off
all
investment
and
and
funds
that
russia
benefits
from
its
international
relationship.
So
we
definitely
need
to
find
out
whether
we
have
any
investments
in
any
of
our
systems
in
russian
assets
and
and
terminate
those,
because
that's
the
real
impact
I
think
we
can
have
as
a
city.
I
guess
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
F
I'm
inclined
to
I
the
only
reason
I'm
inclined
to
lean
against
the
sister
city
severance
is
not
because
I
I
think
that
there's
was
anything
wrong
with
the
proposal
to
do
it,
but
I
have
heard
from
tim
and
others
who
support
sister
city
relationships
about
whether
doing
so
could
inadvertently
send
messages
that
we
don't
want
to
send
as
well.
And
so
you
know,
given
that
balance,
I'm
not
sure
that
you
know.
F
I
think
that
the
hope
is
that
the
value
of
a
sister
city
type
of
program
is
something
that
will
lead
to
a
a
better
understanding
that
when
situations
like
this
arise,
people
in
those
cities
that
have
learned
to
interact
with
cities
like
ours
will
be
the
ones
who
rise
up
and
make
a
difference
in
their
country.
So
that's
that's
why
I
was
leaning
against
this,
but
I
will
I
guess:
you
see
a
couple
more
hands.
F
We'll
continue
the
conversation
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
know
all
of
those
different
suggestions
that
have
been
brought
forward
and
how
we
can,
in
our
own
small
way,
take
action
here
in
san
jose
to
show
us
how
they
leave
with
ukrainians.
L
L
L
Number
three
is
direction:
yeah
direct
the
city
manager
via
the
office
of
intergovernmental
relations,
to
take
an
active
position
of
support
for
federal
policies
that
put
sanctions
on
russia,
russian
president,
vladimir
putin
and
those
aiding
and
abetting
his
invasion,
as
well
as
supporting
proposals
for
additional
aid
to
the
ukrainian
government
and
the
ukrainian
people,
and
in
re-reading
0-11
talking
about
foreign
policy
and
not
taking
positions
on
foreign
policy,
I
think
it
does
run
afoul,
but
I
wanted
to
double
check
with
you
before
I
am
changed.
My
motion.
M
And
thank
you,
council
member,
and
I
was
able
to
get
the
memo
up,
so
I
can
see
it
there.
The
the
the
policy
itself
is
a
council
policy,
and
so
the
council,
of
course,
can
always
work
within
one
of
its
own
policies
and
and
even
change
it
on
a
on
a
given
day.
M
If
you
want
to
we
didn't
because
it
was
to
work
with
federal
policies,
not
creating
our
own
policy,
we
felt
that
it
was
within
the
work
that
the,
inter
that
the
office
of
intergovernmental
relations
would
normally
be
doing,
and
so
it
is
something
that
council
can
can
consider.
M
L
M
Well,
the
difference
I
think
is
that
in
and
I
think
the
the
types
of
things
that
some
cities
have
done.
So
if
this
wasn't
tied
to
what
the
federal
government
was
doing
and
san
jose
was
just
creating
its
own
foreign
policy
or
taking
a
foreign
policy
stance
separate
and
apart
from
just
tying
into
what
the
federal
government
is
doing,
that
would
be
different.
So
if
san
jose
wanted
to
become
a
a.
M
Have
a
different
foreign
policy
towards
russia
than
the
federal
government
has
or
a
different
policy
towards
ukraine
than
the
federal
government
has
it's
our
office's
opinion
that
that
would
be
violating
that
charter
provision
aligning
with
the
federal
government
and
something
the
federal
government
is
doing.
If
that's
what
the
council
wants
to
do,
we
think
can
fall
within
that
council
policy.
0-11.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
will.
I
will
leave
that
in
my
in
my
motion
and-
and
I
just
I
really
appreciate
council
member
cohen's
comments
and
just
I.
I
do
think
that.
L
Isolating
the
country
and
maintaining
citizen
level
diplomacy
are
two
separate
things
and
that's.
Why
that's
why
I
made
the
substitute
motion-
and
I
do
think,
knowing
knowing
tim
and
how
active
he's
been
in
our
sister
city
programs,
that
that
it
is
a
really
important
source
of
information
and
and
frankly,
for
for
our
sister
cities,
especially
in
our
sister
city
in
russia,
right
now,
because
it
won't
be
suspect.
L
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
communication
channel
that
already
exists
and
that
could
provide
frankly
if
this
gets.
If
the
situation
escalates
even
further
and
russia
destabilizes,
it
could
be
a
a
lifeline
of
communication
for
the
russian
people,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
maintain
that.
C
Did
want
to
correct
something-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
makes
a
difference
to
council
member
cohen,
but
I
I
overlooked
that
item
to
see
informing
the
council
on
our
retirement
boards
through
an
information
memo,
whether
our
retirement
funds
have
any
investments
in
russia
and
and
so
going
along
with
that
divestment
of
russian
assets,
and
so
I'm
going
to
include
that.
I
wanted
to
include
that
if
this
motion
doesn't
come
through,
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
understand
that
this
is
this.
This
action
is
very
separate
from
tim
quigley.
C
I
I
I've
said
it
before.
I
absolutely
am
very
respectful
of
tim
and
his
dedication
to
the
sister
cities,
but
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
tim.
This
has
to
do
with
this
symbolic
nature
that
it
equivalent
to
lighting
up
the
rotunda.
I
mean:
do
you
think
lighting
up
the
rotunda
is
going
to
be
so
symbolic
that
somebody
is
going
to
really
change
things
for
us
and
and
the
in
the
mayor's
memo.
C
It
was
very
much
chastising
what
my
my
interpretation
of
symbolism,
and
so
I'm
also
very
critical
that
we
only
can
step
as
far
as
lighting
a
tower
in
a
rotunda
as
as
symbolic-
and
I
don't
know
that
you
know
the
mayor
can't
have
it
both
ways
can't
believe
in
sister
cities
now.
But
then,
when
we
are
on
a
sister
city's
trip,
criticizes
so
much
that
he
goes
to
the
media
to
develop
an
article
about
this.
C
So
it
does
and
if
he
believed
in
sister
city,
so
much
in
this
particular
relationship,
he
would
have
started
something
in
2013
and
if
he
really
cared
about
this,
he
would
be
here
and
he's
not.
And
so
the
the
reality
is
that
the
folks
who
are
going
to
participate
in
the
kettenberg
sister
city
are
going
to
be
the
people
who
are
privileged
enough
and
resourced
enough
to
be
able
to
have
that
time
and
the
luxury
to
develop
relationships.
C
And
so
this
is
not
against
the
the
russian
people.
This
is
against
the
russian
government
and
symbolic
in
that
invasion
and
war
crimes
against
against
ukraine,
and
I
would
do
the
same
if
it
was
the
khmer
rouge
in
cambodia.
I
would
do
the
same
if
it
was
the
rohingya
ethnic
cleansing
and
myanmar.
I
would
you
know
if
we
had
a
relationship
with
those
folks.
I
would
have
suggested
this
just
as
well,
and
this
is
not
cutting
off
communication
lines
between
countries
by
no
stretch
of
the
imagination.
C
I
can't
imagine
that
our
communication
to
the
cattenburg
is
going
to
make
diplomatic
difference
at
this
point,
because
it
has
been
a
defunct
relationship
at
this
point
and
nobody
has
built
it
internally
for
our
city
of
san
jose,
and
I
appreciate
all
of
what
tim
has
done,
but
I
think
at
this
point
the
community
here
in
the
city
of
san
jose
the
ukrainian
community
and
and
their
family
members
and
those
who
love
others
in
in
the
ukraine.
C
They
want
to
see
us
take
a
stance,
and
this
is
the
time
to
do
it.
This
is
not
a
time
to
split
hairs
on
an
item
that
is
meant
to
be
symbolic,
but
now
is
taken
on
really.
I
think
it's
a
personal
attack
and
not
an
attack
on
on
on
me
and
and
rather
sticking
to
what
is
really
important
here
in
taking
a
stand
for
the
ukrainian
people.
So
that's
my
pitch.
B
B
B
That
councilmember
is
that
you
have
you
know
from
that
memo,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
agree
with
everything
in
the
substitute
motion
and
just
like
councilmember
cohen,
it's
you
know
it's
very
difficult
and
it's
a
struggle
to
really
determine
what
the
best
strategy
is
in
terms
of
severing
our
relationship
or
potentially
have
an
opportunity
to
strengthen
our
relationship.
B
So
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it
is
a
scenario
where
say
one
of
our
sister
cities
had
some
major
policy
disagreements
with
the
previous
administration,
and
we
know
that
the
previous
administration
had
some
some
horrendous
policies
and
if
that
sister
city
said
okay,
because
we
are
opposed
to
those
policies
from
that
administration
that
we're
going
to
sever
our
relationship
with
the
city
of
san
jose,
even
though
here
in
the
city
of
san
jose
most
of
our
residents
would
also
be
opposed
to
those
policy
decisions.
B
So
I'm
I'm
trying
to,
through
my
mind,
work
out
like
how
would
that
be
a
positive
impact
to
the
city
of
san
jose
versus
the
negative
impact
and
going
through
that
scenario.
In
my
mind,
if
there
was
an
opportunity
for
that
sister
city
to
reach
out
to
us
and
say
you
know
we're
with
you,
we
support
you
and
we're.
We
have
we're
in
alignment
with
you
in
terms
of
your
disagreement
or
your
opposition
to
that
administration's
policies.
B
In
my
mind,
I
see
that
as
as
actually
being
more
powerful
than
them
saying
we
want
to
sever
that
relationship.
But
again
you
know
it's.
It's
a
very
difficult,
you
know
decision
and
there's
no
clear
pathway,
but
I
just
wanted
to
walk
you
through
my
thought
process
in
terms
of
you
know
how
I'm
looking
at
this.
B
So
it's
I'm
going
to
support
the
substitute
motion,
but
you
know
I
get.
I
want
to
reiterate:
councilman
morenis,
that
you
know
thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
and
I
do
appreciate
the
dialogue
and
everybody
kind
of
expressing
their
thought
process
on
it.
It's
not
easy,
certainly,
and
I
think
we're
all
trying
to
send
the
right
messaging
here.
I
do
think
there
is
a
way
to
to
do
this
and
send
this
message
in
a
way
that
it
is
received.
J
Well
again,
I
I
I
stress,
I
I
don't
think
completely
severing
relationships
right
is,
is
ever
a
way
to
to
strengthen
a
relationship,
but
at
times
it
is
necessary
right
in
order
to
to
achieve
an
even
stronger
relationship
and
any
and
all
of
you
can
think
back
to
maybe
even
personal
relationships.
You've
had
friends,
family
loved
ones,
right
and-
and
you
can't
necessarily
just
stick
with
something
and
and
even
if
right,
you
don't
fully
believe
in
what's
happening.
Nonetheless,
I'll
oops,
I
apologize
drop
my
ipad
here.
J
I
think
that
that,
to
your
point
vice
mayor
on
how
could
that
be
a
benefit?
For
instance,
if
one
of
our
sister
cities
during
our
past
administration
had
said,
we
don't
agree
with
what
your
president
and
your
federal
government
is
doing
in
my
mind,
if
they
had
said
we
are
considering
suspending
the
sister
city
relationship
with
you,
I
think
that
would
be
a
tool,
for
instance,
that
I
could
have
in
my
tool
belt
to
say
this
is
what
this
federal
administration
is
causing
ramifications
across
the
country.
J
Rather
than
severing
it,
and
and
that's
why
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
could
be
could
indeed
be
be
very
useful
for
us
and
and
could
be
able
to
be
a
benefit
to
those
people
in
kettenburg
the
other
piece.
I
think
that
we
were
all
sort
of
speculating
on,
and
maybe
none
of
us
have
any
info
and
tim
quigley
voiced
it
today.
J
I
think
we
have
what
tim
quigley
said
today,
which
I
will
take
that
as
truth,
because
I
I
don't
doubt
that
tim
was
was
what
he's
telling
us
was
was
not
truthful,
but
that
may
be
a
good
step
right
before,
simply
assuming
that
we
have
vocal
allies
in
a
kettenberg
today.
I
think
that
might
be
another
good
step
to
determine
that
to
actually
and
we
can
do
both.
You
know
we
can.
We
can
begin
the
process
of
of
suspending
the
relationship
and
also
reach
out
to
our
counterparts.
J
There
utilizing
contacts
like
tim
and
and
and
be
able
to
connect
and
see
if
there
is
a
message
from
our
sister
city
partners
in
a
catenberg
and
and
be
able
to
understand,
truly
right
where
they
stand,
there
could
be
members
of
our
sister
city
relationship
in
the
gutenberg
that
are
in
favor
with
what's
happening.
We
don't
know
that,
and
so
I
do
think
that
that
that's
something
that
we
are
uncertain
of
at
the
moment
and
would
be
be
wise
to
learn.
Regardless
of
what
step
we
take.
J
Lastly,
I'll
ask
if
councilmember
davis
would
mind
just
going
back
to
the
underlying
motion
being
being
that
it
looks
like
both
motions
are
the
same.
Besides
recommendation,
one
from
councilmember
arenas
and
just
bifurcating
that
first
motion,
so
that
we
could
all
vote
in
favor
of
every
other
item
and
then
we'll
bifurcate
that
recommendation
number
one.
F
Customer
calling
yeah
and
kind
of
to
continue
that
line
of
thought.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
some
value
in
the
statement
with
our
sister
city
and
letting
them
know
that
we
have
concerns
and
we
want.
We.
F
We
have
we've
taken
serious
consideration
about
suspending
the
relationship
and
that
maybe
by
amending
the
action,
the
recommendation
just
to
to
sort
of
to
say
that
we
would
like
to
send
us
send
a
letter
to
our
sister
city
and
let
them
know
that
we're
considering
suspending
it
and
hope
that
they're
standing
with
the
civilized
world
against
their
autocratic
government
and
then
seeing
what
kind
of
response
we
get.
Rather
than
go
down
the
path
of
our
of
beginning
the
suspending,
and
then
you
know
sending
a
message
that
we
may
eventually
terminate
the
relationship.
F
So
maybe
that's
something
that's
amenable
to
you
accounts
member
rayness
that
we
can.
You
know
have
that
communication,
as
opposed
to
actually
going
through
the
process
of
beginning
the
suspension
at
this
point
and
and
then
come
to
an
agreement
on
being
able
to
send
a
statement
of
of
solidarity
that
still
symbolic,
but
maybe
actually
will
engage
in
a
conversation
with
that
city.
C
Right
vice
mayor,
may
I
speak
yes,
okay,
yeah.
I
think
that
that
is
actually
a
really
great
idea.
I
think
that's
what
was
implicitly
part
of
this
process
right
of
determining
whether
a
suspension
is,
though
the
right
route
to
go.
I
would
imagine
that
part
of
that
would
be
having
those
kinds
of
discussions
right,
having
those
conversations
to
really
assess
what's
happening.
C
I
said:
let's
go
through
a
process,
and
so
I
think
part
of
that
process
is
taking
an
assessment
I
mean
I
would
really
appreciate
to
have
that
included,
as
part
of
you
know,
maybe
explicitly
say
to
explore
that
assessment
of
that
relationship
and
and
have
that
letter
sent.
F
D
D
The
way
staff
has
explained
it
to
me
if
we
were
to
start
the
process,
for
you
know
in
the
guidelines
for
sister
city's
relationship,
it
isn't
suspending
it's
it's
terminating,
but
the
mayor
or
another
designee
of
the
mayor
or
the
city
does
write
a
letter
to
their
counterpart
in
that
city,
expressing
the
intent
to
end
the
relationship,
it
doesn't
just
suspend
it
and
thereafter
the
city
is
responsible
for
communicating
directly
with
sister
cities
international
that
that
relationship
has
ended.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
guess
I'll
ask
councilmember
elaine.
If,
obviously,
your
your
emotions
are
on
the
floor
right
now,
so
I'm
asking
for
an
amendment
now
except
to
say:
would
you
be
amenable
to
an
amendment
if
the
if
the
substitute
motion
were
not
to
pass
that
would
yeah
you
wouldn't
mention
necessarily
basically
eliminate
the
language.
That's
there
now,
because
I
think
it
goes
a
little
too
far
as.
F
I'm
not
sure
who
to
say
direct
the
city
manager,
but
it
could
be
as
again
a
mayor
or
a
designee,
so
I'm
not
sure
who
it
would
be,
but
on
behalf
of
the
city,
send
a
letter
expressing
our
concern
about
the
russian
government's
actions
and
consider
it,
and
the
fact
that
we
are
would
consider
suspending
the
relationship.
If
I
don't
have
exact
wording
out
here,
but
something
like
that,
so
that
we
more
of
a
community
opening
communication
sending
our
concerns.
C
Yes,
I
would
be
open
to
a
letter
that
would
express
our
concerns
and
a
letter
of
advisement.
I
don't
know
what
the
next
step
would
be
right,
but
but
yes,
I,
I
think,
that's
absolutely
appropriate.
L
One
can
I
can.
I
make
one
more
comment.
Vice
mayor
before
we
take
the
vote,
I
I
was
looking
and
hoping
that
that
tim
quigley
was
still
on.
I
know
he
has
actual
foreign
policy
experience
that
that
I
do
not
have,
but
I
I
just
understanding
the
difference
as
as
vice
mayor
was
talking
about
between
government
and
its
people,
I'm
just
going
to
put
out
there
council,
member
cohen,
that
it
would
be.
L
I
I
think
it's
fine
for
for
our
mayor
to
send
a
letter
to
his
counterpart
and
and
talk
about
how
we're
thinking
about
terminating
this
relationship,
you're
not
going
to
get
anything
back.
That
is
not
the
the
the
putin
party
line
from
a
government
official,
because
government
officials
in
that
country.
It
works
much
differently
than
here.
As
you
no
doubt
know,
it's
we're
not
talking
about
a
democracy,
we're
talking
about
authoritarianism
where
each
of
those
government
officials
benefits
directly
from
putin
being
in
power.
L
That's
not
the
same
thing
as
the
relationship
that
the
personal
relationships
that
tim
may
have
with
his
counterparts
at
the
citizen
level.
So
there's
the
there's.
The
level
of
you
know
formality
with
the
sister
city
and
then
there's
there's
actual
so
you're
not
going
to
get
anything
back.
That's
going
to
make
us
not
want
to
terminate
it
because
they're
going
to
say
well,
we
we
support
our
government
because
they're
part
of
the
government,
so
I
just
think
honestly,
I
just
think
that's
a
complete
waste
of
time,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
L
I
know.
That's
not.
You
didn't
ask
me
to
amend
my
motion,
but
I
just
want
to
to
make
the
point
that
I
just
think
it's
now
we're
now
you're
talking
about
getting
entangled
in
foreign
policy.
That's
that's!
Well!
Beyond
our
experience
and-
and
I
just
I,
I
think,
that's
ill-advised.
F
F
But
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying-
and
I
was
under
no
illusion-
that
our
sending
this
letter
was
going
to
lead
to
a
meaningful
dialogue
necessarily
or
result
in
getting
a
response
from
an
official
I
mean
knowing
first
of
all,
how
hard
it
is,
even
if
they
were
somewhat
independent
in
their
thinking
being
able
to
stand
up
to
that
government.
Now
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
an
easy
thing
right,
so
they
would
have
to
publicly.
Even
any
group
would
have
to
publicly
be
saying
something
that
could
put
them
in
trouble,
so
in
danger.
F
So
I
I'm
under
no
illusion,
but
I
think
this
is
the
to
me.
This
is
the
in
between
step
of
saying,
there's
there's
some
challenges:
you're,
seeing
with
the
idea
of
suspending
our
sister
city
relationship,
but
we
are
being
able
to
express
our
concerns
directly
through
this
correspondence
which,
to
me,
is
you
know
both
of
both
of
the
actions
suspending
the
relationship
or
sending
this
letter
are
symbolic
right.
So
to
me,
this
is
the
symbolic
step.
F
I
think
we
should
that
I'm
prepared
to
take
now,
as
opposed
to
going
to
the
for
the
full
step
of
suspending,
and
that's
why
I
suggest
it.
So
I
guess
I
will
ask
you
whether
you
would
accept
that
as
a
as
an
amendment
to
knowing
what
you've
just
said.
L
I
I
I
really
don't
think
we
should
be
spending
time
on
it.
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
have
a
whole
foreign
service,
part
of
our
government
and
and
it's
it's
well
beyond,
it's
well
beyond
our
city
and
our
city
government
functions
to
be
to
be
acting
in
this
manner.
F
Okay,
I'll
only
just
make
one
brief
response
to
that,
which
is
just
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
we
create
these
sister
city
relationships.
We
we
we're
not
necessarily
providing
doing
a
foreign
policy
function,
we're
communicating
with
a
city
with
which
we
have
a
relationship,
so
I
see
it
slightly
different,
but
I
I
understand
thank
you.
C
Know
I
don't
know,
I'm
gonna
lower
it.
I
just
this
is
really
really
quick
vice
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
just
think
that
maybe
there
could
be
two
letters
that
there
is
two
different
systems
here.
One
is
the
the
community
driven
process
of
sister
cities,
and
then
there
is
the
the
municipality
that
that
represents
that
city.
C
I
think
we
could
have
two
different
kinds
of
letters
with
two
different
kinds
of
messages
and
the
one
with
sister
cities,
with
the
with
the
community
side
of
it,
could
be
a
more
supportive
message
and
keeping
lines
of
communication.
I
don't
think
that
the
government
side
is
going
to
make
much
difference.
I
I
think
that
our
relationship
with
them
will
never
prosper.
C
If,
if
all
of
this
is
if
russia
continues
to
be
russia
and
behave
like
it
has
behaved
for
decades,
then
I
don't
know
that
our
relationship
will
ever
reignite.
I
don't
know
that
it
was
ever
ignited
to
begin
with
and
has
only
stayed
with
the
community,
and
so
so
anyways.
That's
just
another
idea,
and
I
appreciate
your
suggestion
of
the
letter.
That's
it.
B
Okay-
and
I
am
supportive
of
the
underlying
motion
with
the
compromise
council
members.
J
Yes,
I
would
be
as
well-
and
I
just-
and
I
appreciate
councilman
cohen-
for
for
suggesting
that
and
walking
through
that.
I
think
that
definitely
it
would
be
wise
to
send
two
letters,
and
I
I
think
unfortunately,
tim
quickly
is
not
here.
As
councilmember
davis
pointed
out,
he
did
mention
his
counterpart
in
russia
and
I
don't
know,
if
that's,
I
don't
believe,
that's
the
counterpart
in
a
kettenberg,
but
maybe
it
is
but
either
way.
J
I
think
that
that's
who
we
would
want
to
send
a
letter
to
is
whoever
sort
of
a
counterpart
might
be
to
tim
over
in
a
kettenberg
and
or
through
a
sister
city.
Whoever
the
the
sister
city
representative
is
in
kettenburg,
and
I
do
think
that
letter
should
be
quite
different
and
we
should
be
looking
for
their
response
and
we
may
get
a
completely
different
response.
J
I
would
agree
with
councilman
davis
that
the
government
is
going
to
likely
send
a
letter
or
maybe
not
even
respond
back
right,
but
but
I
do
think-
and
I
would
hope
that
we
get
a
a
letter
of
you-
know.
J
Support
and
solidarity
and
those
that
are
are
opposed
to
what
their
government
is
doing
and
then,
maybe
in
that
case,
that
that
helps
us
with
the
next
steps
if
we
get
that
from
from
the
sister
city
representatives
over
there,
so
I
could
and
will
support
the
underlying
motion
when
we
get
to
it.
Thanks.
B
All
right,
then,
so
we're
gonna
vote
on
the
substitute
motion.
So
tony.
G
B
Fails
the
underlying
motion
in
council
member
cohen,
no.
F
I
guess
I'm
just
officially
asking
for
the
amendment
to
the
underlying
motion
and
somehow
includes
the
idea
of
the
pair
of
letters
to
the
city
and
also
make
sure
that
one
that
the
divestment
language
from
2c
is
in
your
motion
as
well.
B
Okay,
cosmo
davis.
F
B
Okay,
all
right
tony.
C
Arenas,
yes,.
A
Cohen
hi
davis
now
corrales
yes,
jones
hi
is
this
coming
to
council
next
week.
B
Actually,
that
is
an
excellent
question
in
the
mayor's
memo.
He
recommended
that
we,
whatever
we
decide
to
move
forward
with
so
lee,
do
we
have
to
come
back
to
council,
or
can
we
just
give
direction
as
part
of
the
motion
giving
direction
to
just
move
forward
with
it.
D
That's
probably
more
of
a
question
for
nora:
you
are,
you
are
giving
policy
direction
that
the
council
has
decided
on
the
past,
so
it
it
seems
like
it
needs
council
approval,
but
I
would
defer
to
nora.
B
M
I
I
I
think,
part
of
what
is
being
asked
probably
does
require
council
approval.
The
city
manager
can
go
ahead
on
on
and
has
on
the
lighting,
the
and
and
the
flag
right
now.
My
understanding
is
that
the
city
doesn't
have
a
flag,
but
it's
looking
for
a
flag
that
that's
a
decision.
The
city
manager's
office
can
make
the
issues
with
respect
to
or
or
proposal
with,
respect
to,
sister
cities
lee
unless
the
manager's
office
is
offices
feels
like
that
sits
with
them.
That's
a
all.
M
All
matters
relating
to
the
sister
city
program
is
with
the
city
manager,
and
I
don't
know
enough
about
the
background
on
that
that
that
idea
probably
would
need
to
go
to
council
and
then
the
the
direction.
M
On
the
some
of
the
ideas
in
the
mayor's,
memo
probably
need
to
go
to
council,
also
in
terms
of
looking
at
divesting
and
those
kinds
of
things
if
those
are
included
and
the
direction
to
the
city
manager
via
immigrant
affairs.
M
That's
really
not
policy
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
that's
something
that
the
council,
the
city,
manager's
office,
can
go
ahead
and
do
the
the
item.
Number
three
is
a
closer
call
because
of
council
policy
0-11,
and
so
I
think
that
how
far
that
direction
to
the
city
manager
would
go
is
something
that
probably
should
go
to
council.
B
Sounds
like
it
so
so
the
answer
to
tony's
question
is
all
those
items
the
need
to
move
forward
to
council.
Let's
move
on.
M
Yeah
we
can
work
with.
We
can
I'm
sorry
we
can
work
with
tony
and
and
indicate
for
for
sure
the
the
lighting
of
the
city
hall
there
there
may
be
a
need
to
to.
I
think.
Sometimes,
the
city
manager's
office
gets
council
approval,
sometimes
after
the
fact,
but
that
is
within
the
the
manager's
purview
under
council
policies
and
and
and
same
with
the
flag
issues.
That's
something
that
the
manager
can
do,
but
they
may
choose
to
have
that
approved
by
the
council.
M
So
we
can
work
with
the
with
the
clerk
and
with
the
manager's
office
to
bring
forward
those
things
that
to
council.
That
really
do
need
to
be
reviewed
by
the
council
as
a
whole,
because
it
is
policy
setting.
B
K
Oh,
the
city
council
is
amazing.
What
you
guys
do
you
guys
are
going
to
solve
international
problems
in
san
jose.
My
god
give
me
a
break.
You
guys
can't
even
fill
a
pothole
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you're
gonna
save
the
ukraine.
Give
me
a
break.
Give
me
a
break
like
you
guys.
You
guys
even
know
where
ukraine
was
on
the
map
two
weeks.
Vice.
K
Okay,
well
we're
going
to
follow
the
rules
now.
Okay,
let's
follow
the
rules.
You
guys
are
going
to
do
training
for
sjpd
on
the
internet.
Bravo,
let's
see
2016
june
of
2016
trump
supporters
beaten
down.
Why
san
jose
pd
watched
four
years
later
chickens
come
home
to
roost,
those
same
people
beating
up
on
san
jose
pd,
they
fight
back
and
now
the
city's
being
sued.
Bravo,
san
jose
pd!
Bravo,
sam
ricardo
for
making
sure
that
they
stood
down
in
june
of
2016..
You
guys
will
never
live
that
down.
K
That
was
a
day
of
infamy.
The
whole
world
saw
what
you
guys
did,
so
you
want
to
go
by
the
rules.
Let's
talk
about
how
terrible
your
city
is:
hey,
wait,
a
minute!
Don't
drink
a
beer
in
public,
but
man
you
can
buy
marijuana!
No
problem!
Oh,
oh,
oh,
better!
Get
rid
of
the
flavor
tobacco
is,
what's
hurting
the
kids?
Oh,
no!
Oh!
No!
We're
gonna!
No
more
flavor
tobacco!
No
menthol!
K
Look
what
you
guys
do
you
know
what
you
guys
are
you're
like
zelinski
right,
yeah
you're,
like
the
ukrainian
government,
actually
look
at
look
at
how
they
failed
in
this
war.
You
guys
he
should
be
a
city
council,
member,
the
zielinski
guy.
I
could
tell
you
he'd
fit
right
in
with
these
guys.
He'd
fit
right
in.
A
K
A
I
Hello,
it
was
a
good
conversation.
I
I
That's
where
we
all
live
everything
we've
ever
done
from
when
we
crawled
out
of
the
serengeti
to
the
caves
in
france
to
now
landing
on
other
planets
starts
here,
and
this
is
where
we
make
our
stand
and
we
have
to
make
that
stand
and
she's
absolutely
correct.
I
I
Hi
good
afternoon,
thank
you,
councilwoman
arenas.
Thank
you
very
much
right
now.
We
have
two
big
crisis
here
in
san
jose
and
number
one
is
the
ukrainian
travesty?
I
That's
going
on
and
number
two
is
our
unhoused
community
a
few
examples
of
things
going
on
right
now,
san
jose
I've
been
dealing
with
dignity
on
reels
that
does
showers
and
now
because
largely
due
to
the
funding
from
the
city
of
san
jose
at
the
site
at
columbus
park,
they
had
to
cut
some
of
the
days
and
modify
some
of
the
days
they
were
going
to
columbus
park.
It
just
seems
like
so
much
the
city
is
doing
to
get
rid
of
the
people.
I
I
I
I'm
sure
you
saw
about
the
rats
nobody's
really
doing
anything
about
it.
They're
coming
out
there
and
talking
to
folks
we're
not
getting
the
rvs
fixed,
we're
not
getting
the
cars
fixed.
Does
anybody
on
this
rules
committee-
and
you
know
who
I'm
talking
to
care
about
what
goes
on
at
columbus
park?
Have
you
ever
even
been
out
there?
I
You
know
it's
just
a
travesty
and
june
30th,
which
I
truly
believe
is
going
to
be
the
end
date,
because
the
faa
wants
them
out
there.
Where
are
folks
going
to
go
again
and
again
and
again,
where
are
they
going
to
go?
Please
check
into
the
funding
for
dignity
on
wheels.
Thank
you,
claire.
A
G
Hi
blair
beekman
here
thanks
for
the
meeting
today,
I
learned
a
lot
from
the
last
item.
I
don't
agree
with
what
was
decided,
but
it
was
a
very
interesting
learning
process.
I
want
to
learn
the
ideas
of
being
peaceful
and
and
conversational.
G
So
thanks
for
the
lesson,
it's
a
hard
lesson,
it's
so
hard.
I
I
to
go
back
to
go
back
to
a
couple
city
council
meeting
items
yesterday
to
talk
about
the
the
use
of
force
reports
and
the
work
around
george
floyd
issues
and
protests.
G
A
few
other
things
I
wanted
to
add
is
one
thing
is
that
what
did
I
want
to
say?
How
do
I
have
a
brain
freeze?
I
know
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
said
rushedly
yesterday
was
that
you
know
with
all
the
good
obama
doj
reports
of
2015
and
16.
I
mean
those
were
considered
as
basic
reports.
They
were
not.
G
They
were
meant
with
the
idea
that
we
could
grow
from
them
and
that
you
can
add
to
them
and
what
I
feel
is
to
add
progressive,
good
ideals
to
them,
and
that
was
an
important
concept
in
in
in
those
doj
reports.
It
was
just
a
basic
model
that
we
were
supposed
to
better
build
upon
for
ourselves
in
our
future.
So
good
luck!
How
you
can
do
that?
G
Oh
and
the
other
issue
was
the
body
cam
issue
you're,
doing
good
with
public
accountability
about
the
issue,
but
I
hope
sjpd
and
all
of
san
jose
city
government
can
really
want
to.
You
know,
promote
and
work
towards
the
ideas
of
accessibility
to
quality
camera
footage
for
victims
of
crime.
We
don't
know
how
to
do
that.
Yet
good
luck!
How
to
do
that,
and
you
know
I
we
we
could
have
spent
this
meeting
talking
about
peace
plans
and
how
to
develop
peace
for
the
ukraine.