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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of November 17, 2021
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A
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
and
our
vice
mayor
is
out
for
today,
so
I
will
be
chairing
the
meeting
and
first
we
will
go
to
our
first
item,
which
is
the
review
of
the
final
agenda
for
november
23rd,
which
actually
is
cancelled,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
take
any
vote
on
that
correct.
We
move
past
that.
D
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
E
C
We
I
also
we
were
talking
in
this
last
hour
after
this
already
published,
about
adding
a
public
hearing
for
redistricting
in
the
evening
on
the
30th,
because
we
don't
have
a
rules
next
week,
I'd
like
the
maker
of
the
motion
to
add
that
we
can
always
drop
it
if
we
can't
get
everybody
coordinated
for
that
evening,
but
I
can't
add
it
next
week.
So
I'd
like
to
try
to
add
it
today.
A
C
One
yeah
we
have
to
hold
by
law
one
in
the
evening
and
because
we
cancel
the
january
fourth
meeting,
we
need
to
find
an
extra
day
so
we're
looking
at
december
3rd
for
council
discussion
but
november
30th
for
presentation
and
public
comment
only,
but
we
may
change
that.
I
just
need
to
be
able
to
add
it,
since
you
guys
don't
have
a
rules
next
week.
A
A
A
H
Okay
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
guess
first
to
note
that
the
november
30th
agenda
is
not
currently
available
on
the
website,
so
I
just
had
to
kind
of
you
know,
sit
here
and
watch
it
scroll
over
on
the
screen
and
you
guys
went
kinda
slow.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
was
able
to
kind
of
view
some
of
the
items
and
I
offered
some
sort
of
help.
So
thanks.
I
hope
you
can
work
on
the
issue
and
in
the
future.
H
I
guess
if
you're
aware
that
this
issue
is
happening,
you
definitely
know
how
to
scroll
slow
for
these
sorts
of
items.
At
this
sort
of
time
you
had
a
few
items
on
a
coyote
valley,
actually
more
issues
on
that.
I
heard
a
new
way
to
say:
coyote
valley,
cote
valley,
something
like
that
today,
you
know
in
in
the
news
reports
on
the
radio
that
and
in
the
work
that
you've
done
last
night.
You
know
congratulations.
H
It
was
just
boy,
it's
just
our
community
effort
last
night
and
thank
you
for
that.
Like
what
I
said
last
night,
I'm
interested
in
the
ideas
of
you
know
there
will
be
a
future
of
surveillance
and
technology
for
the
area
and-
and
it
could
be
a
good
time
to
consider
you
know
the
open
public
policies
and
accountability
practices-
that's
possible-
that
we
can
work
towards.
With
that.
H
You
had
an
item
on.
I
think
it
was
the
future
of
a
small
homes
area
near
the
police
station.
Good
luck
with
that
item!
Good
luck!
How
all
of
the
community
can
talk
about
the
future
of
small
homes
in
local
neighborhoods
and
and
to
go,
learn
how
to
have
those
sort
of
conversations
in
our
future.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
Secondly,
the
these
these
these
consent
calendar
items
the
cupertino
mayor,
mayor
paul
when
they
have
when
they
call
for
consent
items
they
ask
the
audit
hey.
You
guys,
want
something
pulled
for
consent
for
discussion,
we're
not
afforded
that,
and
so
you're
saying
democracy.
You
say
words.
It's
a
nice
word,
it's
pretty
emo!
You
know
cra
why
it's
a
real
pretty
nice
looking
word,
but
if
there
isn't
substance
behind
that
and
that
that
when
I'm
looking
at
democracy,
if
I'm
not
reflected
back
in
it,
then
it
it
doesn't
exist.
E
E
The
constitution
was
written
for
the
individual,
not
a
group
of
people,
not
big
large
groups,
not
a
big
old,
the
individual,
because
the
individual
does
not
lose
his
autonomy,
nor
his
his
his
his
exercise
and
powers
of
democracy
to
assert
them,
because
someone
else
in
power
decided
that
that's
not
the
case
and
we're
going
to
apply
it.
This
way,
that's
not
happening,
and
so
I
just
appreciate
some
more
democracy,
rather
than
a
kind
of
totalitarian
kind
of
type
of
government.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
that's
our
last
public
speaker
and
I
will
ask
our
clerk
tony.
I
actually
just
tried
the
to
access
the
agenda
through
the
for
the
november
30th
agenda,
which
is
on
a
link
to
our
rules
agenda
and
it
actually
is
not
popping
up.
So
I
understand
you
stated
that
it
may
have
been
published
just
after
noon,
but
when
you
actually
click
on
the
agenda
it
it
doesn't
populate.
So
there
might
be
an
issue
there.
C
A
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
having
trouble,
but
I
did
try
it
and
it
is
it's
not
coming
out
for
me
so
so
yeah
if
we
could
take
a
look
at
that
and
on
the
back
end
and
see
if
we
can
get
that
up.
I
appreciate
the
those
comments.
Obviously
we
want
to
be
able
to
to
have
that
available
to
view,
and
I
do
recognize
that's
why
we've
tried
to
go
slower.
A
I
C
No,
I
just
we
need
to
have.
We
have
to
have
one
in
the
evening
and
then
the
other
ones
can
be
scheduled
at
another
time.
So
we
were
looking
at
the
agenda
for
the
14th
or
the
30th.
The
30th
looks
a
little
lighter
than
the
14th,
so
we're
I'm
trying
to
see
if
the
the
consultant
can
be
there
to
do
a
public
hearing
for
public
comment
on
the
30th
in
the
evening,
and
then
we
can
do
december
3rd,
7th
and
14th
all
three
of
them.
C
I
C
But
we're
we're
trying
to
avoid
january
4th,
which
is
was
originally
on
our
schedule.
You
guys
might
be
able
to
the
commission's
meeting
tonight
to
do
their
final
approval
of
a
commission
map
to
forward
to
you
guys,
and
then
you
know,
hopefully,
that's
a
really
good
map
and
everybody's
very
happy
with
it.
You
know
they've
they're,
trying
very
hard
to
take
everybody's
feedback
into
consideration.
C
A
There
is
an
item
which
likely
my
guess
is
going
to
be
that
this
should
should
just
be
discussed
at
the
council,
but
there's
an
item
about
the
signage
at
the
airport
and
in
my
review
of
it
I
I
believe
that
that
is
an
item
that
likely
should
go
back
to
an
rfp
and
and
just
wanted
to
get
the
input
from
the
city
staff
here.
As
far
as
my
understanding
would
be.
We
keep
this
on
that
the
30th
agenda
and-
and
I
make
that
appeal
at
that
point-.
A
E
Yes,
paul
from
the
horseshoe
this
is,
I
mean
this
is
just
like
disgusting
dude,
gary
dillable,
jeffrey
yaga,
in
that
that
clan
of
of
freaking
yeah
that
clan
of
people,
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
feel
shame
to
feel
embarrassed
or
have
any
compunction
about
asking
for
that
money.
Now
I
talked
to
you
about
this
many
months
ago,
councilman
perales
and
I
also
talked
to
scott
neese
you're,
not
going
to
turn
downtown
you're,
not
going
to
create
your
little
army
and
use
the
cops
to
do
it.
E
You're
not
going
to
use
the
cops
as
your
own
personal
army
in
order
to
protect
your
investment,
that's
not
going
to
happen
and
then
using
money
from
covid
where
the
latinos
are
the
ones
that
had
the
most
deaths
that
had
the
most
infections
and
got
that
way.
Protecting
people
like
protecting
people
like
adilabo,
protecting
people
like
a
richie.
E
E
E
Gary
dillable
is
as
bad
as
a
homeboy
in
front
of
a
7-eleven
asking
for
a
quarter,
but
he's
got
10
bucks
in
his
pocket.
What
are
you
doing
coming
here,
asking
my
city
for
money
and
then
calling
himself
an
institutional
landlord
and
you
ain't
nothing
dude.
This
is
sono
homie
you're,
a
guest
in
this
house.
That's
all
I
got
to
say.
J
J
A
H
H
There
was
a
few
letters
about
rezoning
issues,
if
applicable,
I'm
not
sure.
If
it
is,
I
invite
all
sides
of
that
issue
to
look
into
the
ideas
of
mixed
income,
and
that
can
be
an
interesting
way
to
what
can
be
acceptable.
You
know
to
accept
different
levels
of
income
within
a
certain
urban
village
area,
and
they
can
actually
it
can
be
a
wide
range.
It
can
be
more
accepting
of
a
wide
range
hope.
People
can
look
at
that.
H
H
H
How
can
this
process
just
learn
that
you
know
the
the
person
in
charge
of
the
meeting
offers
the
concept
that
these
items
can
be
open
to
public
comment,
and
that's
all
I'd
like
to
work
on,
and
I
think
we
should
work
on
that
issue
me.
Paul
and
tessa
are
all
working
on
ways
to
do
that.
I
hope
we
can
continue
this
issue
in
the
future.
A
Thank
you.
That
concludes
our
public
comment
and
just
brian
to
your
your
question.
The
note
and
file
is,
is
just
the
terminology
that
we
utilize
in
regards
to
denoting
how
we
are
noting
these
letters
that
come
in
and
then
filing
them
for
the
public
record
and
and
accepting
that,
and
so
we
at
the
rules
committee
do
that.
K
K
A
A
A
A
A
H
H
No
that'll
come
up
next.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
may
have
one
quick
comment
on
consent,
then
about
you're
using
you
have
new
ideas
of
a
e-waste
shred-a-thon,
and
I
guess
these
are
trash
ideas
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
hi
to
that
sort
of
work
and
efforts,
and
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
think
that's
that
should
be
about
all
yeah.
A
A
Thank
you
all
right
that
takes
us
to
item
g2,
and
this
is
the
project
labor
agreement
amendments
and
we
have.
I
know
we
have,
I
believe,
councilman
esparza,
I
saw
here
and
we
also
have
an
early
consideration
form
from
staff
and
I'm
happy
to
allow
staff
to
respond
first
on
this
and
then
I'll
I'll
see
if
my
council
colleagues
want
to
speak
or
if
they
want
to
go
to
members
of
the
public.
First
lee.
D
Sure,
thank
you.
Chair
staff
does
have
an
early
consideration
form
in
and
we
had
marked
that
a
yellow
based
off
of
the
level
of
work
around
policy
and
also
indicated
that
if
this
policy
did
move
forward
at
whatsoever
time
implementing
it
would
require
resources.
So
we
recommend
a
yellow
light
and
then
it'll
be
referred
into
the
budget
process
and
matt
cano
is
here
for
any
questions
on
specifics
around
the
program.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
A
C
A
G
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
the
san
jose
city-wide
project
labor
agreement,
was
adopted
in
large
part
for
the
numerous
recognized
benefits
that
plas
provide
to
construction
users.
These
benefits
include,
among
others,
increased
prevention
of
wage
and
hour
violations,
increased
timeliness
and
reliability
of
construction
promotion
of
local
apprenticeships
and
providing
well-paying
family
supporting
careers
for
local
residents.
G
These
things
continue
to
be
true,
as
we
see
with
some
of
the
recent
city
projects
that
were
not
subject
to
the
pla
that
these
non-pla
projects
have
rampant
wage
theft,
apprenticeship
violations
and
production
delays.
The
improvements
recommended
in
this
memo
by
council
members,
cohen
and
esparza
will
ensure
workers
on
the
city's
mid-size
projects
are
protected
from
wage
theft
and
exploitation
and
have
the
opportunity
to
advance
up
the
career
ladder
with
apprenticeships.
G
It
will
increase
community
benefits
by
removing
the
list
of
exclusions,
currently
restricting
a
large
number
of
projects
from
being
covered.
It
will
also
promote
the
highest
standards
of
construction
career
training
by
allowing
only
high
road
construction
education
programs
to
participate,
placing
more
projects
within
the
scope
of
the
pla
will
decrease
the
misuse
of
public
funds
on
public
construction
and
provide
high
quality
construction.
That's
on
time
and
on
budget,
the
hard
work
on
implementing
the
pla
has
already
been
done.
The
processes
are
in
place
and
the
policies
been
proven.
Projects
are
moving
forward
under
the
pla.
G
The
addition
of
more
projects
will
have
significant
impact
for
the
community
and
for
local
workers,
but
as
shown
by
the
10
billion
capital
improvement
program
of
santa
clara
county
that
is
covered
by
a
project
labor
agreement.
No
additional
staff
is
needed
on
behalf
of
the
35
000
workers
of
the
santa
clara
and
san
benito
counties,
building
and
construction
trades
council.
I
urge
you
to
adopt
these
recommendations.
H
H
I
remember
you
know
in
the
past
several
years
here
in
san
jose,
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
work
to
get
pla
agreements
down
to
this
sort
of
level,
and
thank
you,
I
guess
you
know
is,
is
in
need
for
for
all
the
previous
good
work.
You've
done
on
this
item
to
make
this
item
today
easier
to
understand
and
work
with.
I
think.
H
H
H
It
can
help
in
the
decision
making
and
for
better
work
practices
and
work
worker
safety
issues,
and
I
I
think
I
think
mixed
income
ideas
can
actually
bring
a
better,
more
hopeful
idea
of
how
to
work
these
ideas,
and
you
know
how
to
work
with
our
the
future
of
you
know,
construction
and
such,
and
I
think
there
can
be
a
good
mix
of
ideas,
basically
and-
and
that
was
very
nicely
explained
in
the
previous
report.
So
thanks
for
all
your
help
with
this
item
and
thank
you.
A
J
I
believe
that
now
I
know
for
a
fact
that
this
this
would
go
ahead
and
expand
opportunities
for
better
wages
for
to
ensure
that
everybody's
getting
the
proper
remuneration
that
they
they
rightfully
deserve.
More
importantly,
it
ensures
that
we're
getting
good
good
work.
The
craftsmanship
is
gonna,
be
there
and
that
the
projects
that
are
being
done
are
going
to
be
on
time
and
on
budget
and
the
work's
going
to
be
good,
and
so
that's
very
important
as
well.
J
In
addition,
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
because
of
the
fact
that
we
we
would
go
ahead
and
expand
opportunities
for
historically
underrepresented
communities
to
have
access
through
the
apprenticeships
provision
in
this
policy.
For
that
reason,
I'm
calling
to
request
that
you
support
this
and
move
it
forward
and
ultimately
approve
this
at
city
council.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
The
threshold
seems
to
be
that
it
was
arbitrary
with
no
purpose
but
to
limit
the
benefits
supported
to
the
community
by
the
agreement.
So
I
urge
you
to
please
consider
the
members
of
local
393.
We
have
over
2
000
members
in
this
county
that
we
would
like
to
consider
for
this
agreement
and
to
have
you
reconsider
this
arbitrary
threshold.
J
How
you
guys
doing
today,
my
name
is
joseph
lopez,
I'm
at
the
carpenters,
union,
local
405
and
just
not
to
beat
dead
horse,
but
we
are
also
in
support
of
the
changes
made
to
the
pla.
I
I'm
I'm
a
san
jose
native
myself
and
I'm
actually
happy
that
we
are
in
talks
with
the
you
know
having
a
san
jose
pla
city
wide,
and
I
am
in
support.
We
are
in
support
of
decreasing
the
threshold
and
removing
the
link
to
the
cpi.
J
It
just
creates
more
job
opportunities
for
people
in
our
communities,
especially
the
communities
that
are
in
poverty.
The
youth
to
get
into
an
apprenticeship
program
start
a
career
work
in
their
backyard,
make
a
good
wage
to
live
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
I
think
the
biggest
fear
is
that
you
know
we
have
to
move
out
or
we
have
to
do
something
else
and
with
the
apprenticeship
being
available
being
free
for
in
in
a
state-certified
program.
J
K
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
louise
howard
with
working
partnerships.
Usa.
I
want
to
thank
the
council
members
for
introducing
and
considering
this
item
I
founded
and
directed
the
trade
orientation
program
which
helps
our
disadvantaged
and
underrepresented
committee
members
in
san
jose
to
enter
construction
careers.
That
top
is
a
partnership
with
work
to
future.
So
with
the
city
of
san
jose
and
with
the
building
trade
apprenticeships
on
a
volunteer
basis,
we
play
the
role
of
the
community
workforce
coordinator
for
the
targeted
hiring
in
the
san
jose
pla
two
days.
K
If
this
is
a
pretty
recent,
only
seven
projects
so
far
under
the
pla
are
far
along
enough
for
targeted
hiring,
but
on
just
those
seven
projects.
31
underrepresented
community
members
have
been
placed
through
the
pla
targeted,
hiring
and
gotten
their
start
at
an
entry
level
and
a
skilled
trade
apprenticeship.
K
K
While
you
learn
to
get
regular
pay
increases
all
while
learning
a
skill
and
getting
a
post-secondary
education,
but
first
you
have
to
put
a
foot
in
the
door,
and
that
means
getting
an
employer
getting
your
first
job
and
that's
what
project
labor
agreements
and
what
the
targeted
hiring
can
do.
So
I
really
this
has
been
great
so
far,
but
its
impact
is
limited
because
of
the
threshold,
so
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
expand
it.
Finally,
this
absolutely
fits
into
the
city
roadmap.
K
G
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I'm
in
favor
of
amending
the
city-wide
pla,
just
as
was
proposed
by
members,
esparza
cohen,
and
I
understand
we've
already
gone
over
the
pluses
from
it,
but
there's
pushback
from
the
city
staff,
and
I
have
some
points
to
hit
so
first
of
all,
the
pla
has
not
caused
any
additional
workload
on
the
projects
to
which
has
been
applied.
Any
work
on
compliance
associated
with
the
pla
project
is
overlapped
by
the
city's
existing
compliance
responsibility,
which
must
be
done
regardless
of
a
pla.
G
The
pla
adds
only
one
meeting
to
a
construction
project
which
is
coordinated
by
the
building
trades
council
and
the
contractors,
not
city
staff.
The
county
of
santa
clara
did
not
hire
even
one
full-time
staff
to
administer
the
pla
because
there
was
no
need
to
do
so.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me
and
have
a
great.
B
B
B
A
G
Can
you
hear
me
okay?
Yes,
thank
you,
earn
what
you
learned
I'd
like
to
defer
real
quick
to
luis
sarah,
the
comment
that
that
they
made,
I
think
luis,
is
the
authority
in
the
region
on
this
topic.
So
I
just
want
to
add
to
their
comments.
So
members
of
the
rules
committee,
my
name
is
dr
forrest
peterson,
I'm
a
researcher
at
the
center
for
integrated
facilities,
engineering
at
stanford
university.
G
My
comments
are
in
support
of
counselors,
esparza
and
cohen
speaking,
specifically
to
allow
the
need
to
use
joint
apprenticeship
programs.
The
center
for
integrated
facility
engineering
has
had
a
seven
year
collaborative
research
study,
of
which
I'm
the
lead
researcher.
In
my
seven
years
of
workforce
education,
research,
developing
grounded
theory
that
includes
vastly
more
field
research
than
is
typical.
G
G
So
I
want
to
just
also
notice
that
the
county
of
santa
clara
did
not
allocate
anyone
to
administer
the
pla
by
chance.
That
would
have
been
me
because
I
was
a
labor
standards
investigator
for
my
year
of
public
service
to
resolve
my
student
debt.
After
finishing
the
phd,
I
can
assure
you
I
was
never
assigned
a
pla
to
work
on
ever.
Thank
you.
E
It's
just
strung
out
like
a
heroin.
If
it
starts
detoxing
from
it,
it
needs
to
get
more.
So
what
it
does
is
it
strengthens
immigration
laws,
that's
how
it
gets
more.
Dope
strengthens
immigration
laws
and
so
with
respect
to
labor.
Whatever
decision
that
you're
going
to
make
the
only
way
that
anything
like
this
is
going
to
be
fair
or
just
is,
if
the
exploitation
of
the
human
being's
body
for
his
labor
stops.
E
E
J
Sorry
about
that,
can
you
hear
me
now
yep?
Okay,
I
was
looking
at
it.
I
was
on
another
screen
here,
and
so
I
missed
that.
Thank
you,
council
members
good
afternoon,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
east
side
and
a
board
member
on
the
allen
rock
school
board,
and
I'm
here
to
support
the
expansion
of
the
scope
of
the
pla.
J
You
know
even
before
the
pandemic,
the
economic
opportunity
and
job
safety
and
security
were
issues
and
they've
historically
been
issues
for
many
of
our
residents
here
in
east
san
jose
and
certainly
in
alam,
rock
and
and
those
issues
have
only
been
exacerbated
by
the
pandemic.
I
know
they've
been
they've
impacted
everybody.
J
You
know
received
and
all
the
protections
that
come
under
a
pla
that
impacts
what
we
see
at
the
district
level
in
terms
of
the
performance
and
well-being
of
our
students.
So
for
those
reasons
I
would
hope
that
this
would
move
forward
and
I
would
join
trustee
quintero
in
support
of
this
memo.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah.
Thank
you
committee
members.
My
name
is
dominic
toriano,
I'm
a
business
representative
for
sheet
metal
workers,
local
union
104
in
san
jose,
decreasing
the
pla
threshold
will
help
by
limiting
the
contracts.
The
understaffed
office
of
equality
assurance
will
have
to
closely
monitor
the
pla,
has
the
benefit
of
its
enforcement
language,
which
is
administered
primarily
by
the
staff
of
the
relevant
building
trades
council
affiliate.
G
G
Finally,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
of
the
council
members
have
heard
about
the
city
of
san
francisco
scandal
regarding
the
former
public
works
director
taking
bribes
in
return
for
construction
contracts,
he
used
informal
bidding
practices
to
accomplish
this
criminal
scheme.
This
individual
was
the
primary
reason
why
the
city
of
san
francisco
took
so
long
to
get
a
pla
implemented,
as
he
led
the
opposition
to
it.
This
scandal
caught
all
the
city
of
san
francisco
elected
officials
off
guard,
and
they
quickly
realized
why
their
publix
works.
Director
was
opposed
to
project
labor
agreements
to
their
credit.
G
B
With
the
pla
project
is
overlap
by
the
city's
existing
compliance,
responsibility,
which
must
be
done
regardless
of
a
pla
if
we
amend
the
pla
suggested
san
jose,
will
help
countless
underrepresented
working
community
members
gain
access
to
local
careers
that
will
truly
help
to
support
their
families.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
B
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
I'm
in
mundos,
garcia
with
the
plumbers
and
steam
fitters
393
and
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
san
jose.
I
support
the
amendment
by
council
members,
council,
members,
cohen
and
esparza.
The
current
3
million
threshold
is
not
inclusive
enough
to
provide
the
benefits
of
the
pla
to
mid-size
city
public.
B
The
proposed
amendment
to
expand
the
scope
of
the
ple
to
1
million
is
in
line
with
pla
thresholds
of
many
other
jurisdictions
and
still
higher
than
others.
It's
important
that
the
benefits
of
the
pla
are
expanded
to
ensure
local
hiring
and
more
apprentices
get
proper
training
and
career
opportunities.
A
C
C
We
decided
to
work
with
currently
homeless
veterans
and
get
them
into
top.
That
was
the
trades
orientation
program
that
louise
hour
hand
talked
about.
So
we
we
did.
We
filled
the
top
class
with
veterans
we
often
bust
them
in
from
the
homeless,
shelter
at
va
in
palo
alto
and
in
addition
to
filling
that
class,
we
were
able
to
get
other
veterans
directly
into
apprenticeship
programs.
C
Everybody
starts
at
the
same
place,
and
then
you
get
trained,
you
kind
of
go
to
school,
the
whole
time
you're
in
a
union
and
and
so
they
got
trained
and
they
realized
hey.
I
didn't
really
get
trained
how
to
do
that.
Oh,
I
never
learned
how
to
do
that.
I
never
learned
that,
and
and
so
as
they
got
into
the
top
program
and
into
apprenticeships
afterwards,
they
got
the
proper
training
they
got
paid
to
learn
and
we
were
able
to
provide
a
path
for
homeless
veterans
to
become
self-sustaining.
C
It
showed
me
how
life-changing
these
programs
can
be.
It
showed
me
the
quality
of
the
training
and
the
work
of
the
joint
apprenticeship
programs,
and-
and
it
was
why
I
supported
building
this
work
into
our
coveted
recovery
efforts,
and
we
had
an
extensive
discussion
during
the
road
map
exercise
about
that,
because
to
me
it's
how
we
build
back
better,
how
we
build
back
better.
Is
it
by
providing
somebody
a
dead-end
job.
C
It's
how
we
provide
a
path
to
a
career
path
to
someone
how
we
provide
a
livable
wage,
and
so
as
we
work
to
build
back
to
a
better
normal
in
the
aftermath
of
covid.
The
safety
and
well-being
of
our
workers,
who
are
literally
building
our
city,
is
a
critical
foundation
of
this
work
project.
Labor
agreements
provide
agencies
with
labor
and
labor,
with
the
framework
for
construction
projects
that
reduce
labor
conflicts,
shortages
of
skilled
workers
help
prevent
wage
theft
or
catch
it.
C
So
we
are
proposing
amendments
to
expand
the
pla
to
cover
projects
of
a
million
dollars
or
more
and
remove
the
exemptions
from
addendum
c
allowing
projects
such
as
street
resurfacing
and
building
retrofits
that
are
currently
excluded
among
jurisdictions
in
california,
with
plas.
Our
current
threshold
of
three
million
dollars
is
extremely
high.
The
one
million
dollar
threshold
is
in
line
with
sacramento
san
leandro,
alameda,
county
contra
costa
county
and
is
still
is
still
higher
than
the
thresholds
of
many
cities
with
plas,
including
long
beach
and
los
angeles.
C
Our
proposal
dovetails
with
two
of
the
existing
top
items
on
the
prioritized
backlog
of
the
city
roadmap,
including
wage
theft,
prevention,
which
is
number
two,
and
the
local
hiring
business
apprenticeship
utilization
program,
which
is
number
four
staff
assured
council
during
our
road
map
exercise.
The
work
on
these
top
priorities
would
continue
this
year,
as
we
continue
our
economic
recovery
from
the
devastation
brought
forward
by
the
pandemic.
C
I
Yes,
thank
you,
a
chair
and
thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
public
who
spoke
on
this
and
came
out
and
explained
their
perspectives
as
to
why
this
is
important
for
our
city
and
for
people
who
work
in
our
city.
I
thank
council
member
esparza
for
partnering
on
this,
but
also
you
gave
a
great.
She
gave
a
great
summary
of
why
this
is
important.
I
I
don't
want
to
repeat
any
of
that,
but
I
do
have
some
questions
for
staff
about
some
of
these
things,
because
there's
a
few
paragraphs
on
the
early
consideration
form
that
I
want
to
get
some
clarification
about.
As
we
you
know,
many
talked
about
as
councilmember
esparza
mentioned,
we've
had
projects
that
have
had
that
have
been
had
issues
of
wage
theft
or
violations
and
delays.
Those
were
projects
that
were
not
covered
by
a
pla.
I
I
As
I
understand
it,
we're
bidding
projects
right
now
as
a
city,
and
we
have,
we
may
be
under
staff
for
doing
that.
I
don't
doubt
that
we
are
what
is
it
about
a
project
making
sure
that
there
are
pla
requirements
in
the
bid
documents
and
in
the
in
the
process
for
bidding
for
contracts
that
would
make
the
that
would
require
that
the
city
has
more
staff
to
do
what
to
do
to
go
out
and
sign
those
contracts
with
with
contractors
that
do
the
work.
L
Oh
sorry,
you're
ready
for
my
answer.
Councilman,
I'm
sorry!
I
didn't.
I
thought
it
was
interrupting
you
thank
you,
matt
kaine,
director
of
public
works.
Thank
you
for
the
question
part.
It's
it's
multifaceted
and
part
of
it
is
what
you
addressed
I,
with
with
respect
to
other
organizations
and
other
cities
and
other
agencies
out
there.
As
we
know,
san
jose
is
thinly
staffed.
L
We
have
a
tremendous
workload
and
we
have
a
lot
of
high
priority
projects
and
more
coming
all
the
time,
and
so
when
we
have
things
like,
let's,
let's
just
say,
the
pla
was
expanded
to
most
of
our.
If,
if
this
was,
if
this
passed,
it
would
be
expanded
to
most
of
our
capital
projects,
it
would
be
and
something
that
it
would
be
an
extremely
important,
important
initiative
that
we
that
so
it
would
be
extremely
important
for
us
to
implement
it
correctly.
L
Yes,
there
is
one
meeting,
as
was
mentioned,
that
needs
to
happen
at
the
beginning
of
the
project.
However,
as
the
project
goes
on,
it's
really
important
that
our
project
managers,
every
project
manager
in
my
organization,
which
is
a
lot
of
project
managers,
are
fully
trained
and
fully
aware
of
what
is
a
pla.
What
are
some
attributes
of
a
pla?
I
Okay,
I
appreciate
that,
and
obviously
I
will
I
will
probably
always
stipulate
that
when
we're
talking
about
city
departments
and
the
work
that
they
do,
that
we're
not
staffed
as
high
as
we
should
be.
That's
probably
a
fact
of
life
in
government
and
probably
in
many,
not
just
in
government
but
in
business.
I
These
days
as
well,
but
I'll
stipulate
that
it
sounds
to
me
like
the
you
know,
concern
you
have
is
about
what
happens
after
a
contract
is
signed
after
after
work
starts
in
terms
of
monitoring
and
making
sure
that
plas
are
followed
appropriately
and
that
we're
doing
all
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
and
it.
I
think
I
understand
that.
I
L
I
I
think,
councilmember
to
your
point,
the
the
strong
partnership
I
mean.
I
you
know,
working
partnerships
and
building
trades
council
have
been
great
partners
over
the
years
since
I've
been
public
works
director
the
past
three
and
a
half
years,
and
I
would
absolutely
we
would
continue
that,
but
but
great
partnership.
L
For
me,
it
means
to
be
proactive
in
that
partnership.
It
means
to
really
proactively
work
with
the
building
trades
council,
the
working
partnerships
and
the
tops
program
and
all
the
other
partners,
many
of
whom
spoke
today
and
to
proactively
work
with
the
partners
on
a
really
important
initiative
requires
staff.
I
not
tons
of
new
staff-
and
I
I
I
you
know,
but
it
does
require
staffing
to
ensure
that
we
are
always
maintaining
that
extremely
strong,
proactive
relationship
and
that
we're
working
on
initiatives
together.
There's
a
lot.
L
I
know
they're
on
the
backlog,
but
the
initiative
of
local
hire
local
business
participation
and
making
sure
that
those
that
our
workers
in
san
jose
and
our
businesses
in
san
jose
are
getting
as
much
of
our
cip
money
as
possible
to
increase
their
abilities
to
succeed
in
life
that
that
proactive
management
requires
requires
staffing.
And
so
I
definitely
definitely
look
forward
to
kind
of
continuing
these
conversations.
But
I
guess
that's
my
quick
answer
for
that.
Right.
Well,.
I
Thank
you-
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here
and
being
able
available
to
answer
my
questions
just
to
you
know,
move
on
and
let
others
on
the
committee
ask
questions
or
or
give
their
input.
Let
me
just
conclude
for
now
and
say
you
know.
Our
city
has
priorities
in
place
already
for
local
hiring
for
apprentice
utilization.
I
It's
particularly
important
right
now,
as
we
move
forward
in
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
where
we
need
to
get
give
people
economic
opportunity
that
we
create
these
job
opportunities
and
safe
work
environments
for
people
and
build
that
kind
of
pipeline
that
council
members
farza
talked
about
for
long
term
careers
and
not
short-term
jobs.
So
I
I'd
like
to
move
the
memo
from
councilmember
as
far
as
myself
and
and
allow
others
on
the
committee
to
to
come
in.
K
F
L
Thank
you
for
that
davis.
Sorry,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Councilmember
davis.
We
we've
been
tracking
that
and-
and
at
this
point
we
don't
think
it
is
adding
anything
to
the
cost
of
the
projects.
As
far
as
the
bids
that
we're
receiving
from
the
contractors,
we
presented
a
report
to
the
mayor
and
city
council
a
few
weeks
back
our
annual
capital
improvement
program
report
where
we
track
what
our
engineers
estimates
are
for
all
of
our
projects.
F
So
the
concern,
at
least
for
me,
with
the
with
the
pavement,
was
about
what
had
been
promised
through
through
measure
t
and
getting
every
street
paved
before
by
2029.
So
I
appreciate
that
that's
a
very
useful
piece
of
data,
so
the
the
concern
here
is
really
to
want
from
the
the
early
consideration
form
is
really
that
there
are
other
items
on
the
road
map
that
take
precedence
and
that
there's
staff
time
involved.
Is
that
my
correct
understanding-
and
that
might
be
quite
more
of
a
question
for
lee
than
for
matt.
L
It's
not
a
concern
on
my
part
necessarily.
I
know
the
way
it's
more
just
my
I.
The
way
when
I
filled
out
the
early
consideration
form
just
my
kind
of
honest
opinion
on
on
the
facts
which
were
yeah,
which
I
and
I
kind
of
stated
my
my
kind
of
case
to
councilman
cohen's
question
about
the
need
for
additional
resources
and
then
to
implement,
and
then
regarding
the
actual
getting
to
city
council
with
the
memorandum
and
renegotiated
agreement
would
definitely
require
resources
as
well
and
ultimately
yeah.
L
L
Well,
right
now,
wage
theft
and
local
hire
are
on
the
the
back,
the
backlog,
and
so
those
are
we
did
on
local
hire.
However,
I
want
to
be.
We
did
actually
advance
local
hire
to
a
summary
report
in
april,
so
we
did
keep
working
on
local
hire
even
after
it
was
put
on
the
backlog
for
a
while,
and
we
did
a
report
to
a
ced
committee
in
april,
but
and
on
wage
theft.
L
It's
hard
for
me
to
say
we're
not
working
on
wage
that
because
we're
always
working
on
wage
theft
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
but
the
specific
recommendation
to
amend
the
city's
policy
on
wage
theft
with
which
last
went
forward
to
city
council
on
in
february,
2020
right
before
the
pandemic,
we're
not
currently
working
on
advancing
that
policy
change
forward.
It
seems
that
every
day
we're
working
on
wage
theft
as
an
organization,
though
in
general.
D
Yeah,
I
mean
just
to
clarify
the
you
know:
we've
said
this
before
with
rules,
but
the
early
consideration
form
is
not
an
analysis
of
a
policy
or
future
policy
decision.
It's
simply
looking
at
the
workload
of
staff,
so
you
know
matt
did
exactly
what
he
should
have
done
and
fill
it
out
based
off
of
that,
it's
not
a
values-based
document
that
we
use,
or
you
know,
starting
to
discuss
trade-offs.
That's
part
of
an
ultimate
recommendation
that
we
would
make
to
the
full
council.
F
F
And
I
I
I
guess
I
I'm
interested
to
know
how
much
work
it
takes
to
go
from
here
to
come
back
to
council
if,
if
we
didn't
move
this
to
priority
setting,
because
I
believe
the
the
motion
was
to
go
straight
to
council
and
not
go
through
priority
setting
and
I'm
concerned
about
that,
because
every
time
we
circumvent
priority,
setting
it's
pulling
staff
off
of
what
we've
already
told
them
is
priority
to
do
so,
how
much
staff
work
are
we
talking
about?
Well.
D
Though-
and
this
might
be
good
clarification-
and
I
would
ask
nora
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
typically
when
staff
is
given
something
a
yellow
light
and
the
rules
committee
has
approved
it,
the
actual
recommendation
from
the
council
members
has
moved
forward
to
the
council,
so
the
full
council
can
give
direction
so
that
can
happen
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
can
put
that
on.
You
know
any
of
the
last
three
meetings
that
we
have
here,
so
that
we
can
have
that
conversation,
and
then
you
know,
I
would
say
you
know,
staff
wise.
D
L
So
so
that
would
be
a
you
know:
take
staff
from
the
attorney's
office
as
well
as
staff
from
public
works
and
and
other
every
every
department
is
involved
in
the
capital
program,
and
so
that's
why
there's
more
departments
than
just
the
attorney's
office
and
public
works
that
were
listed
on
the
early
consideration
form
anything
that
happens
here.
Anything
that
changes
the
pla
does
have
impacts
depending
on
what
those
changes
are.
They
could
be
minor
or
major
to
other
departments
in
the
city.
E
D
I
think
we
would
probably
be
trying
to
do
something
you
know
revisit
that
the
current
roadmap,
in
light
of
kind
of
the
the
continued
response
that
we've
been
in,
which
we
should
be
out
of
by
then,
but
we
know
we
did
not.
You
know
the
road
map
is
dolan
mentioned
last
night
when
we
did
kind
of
the
check-in
on
on
the
community
and
economic
recovery
and
powered
by
people.
When
we
approved
that
road
map
and
the
backlog,
we
didn't
believe
we
would
still
be
responding
like
we
have.
D
So
we
do
need
to
kind
of
true
up
some
of
that
work
and
daylight.
Some
of
what
has
happened
and
what
hasn't
happened
and
then
try
and
have
that
conversation
with
the
new
road
map,
which
I
guess
is
also
priority,
setting
before
the
march
budget
message.
So
I
would
think
that
would
take
place
sometime
in
february.
F
F
I'm
just
concerned
about
continuing
to
take
things
out
of
that
process
when
we
have
seen
from
the
early
consideration
and
from
what
matt
has
said
today
about
the
need
to
have
budget
for
additional
people
to
be
able
to
really
do
this
right
and
I'd
rather
do
something
right
than
just
do
something
to
make
us
feel
good,
and
so
I'm
I'm
really
hesitant.
I
I'm
I
want
to
support
staff,
so
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
vote
for
this.
I
I'm
fine
having
this
conversation
with
priority
setting.
F
There
are
tons
of
great
policies
that
we
we
discuss
and
we
have
to.
I
think
we
have
to
really
choose,
especially
given
what
we
just
said
about.
You
know:
truing
up
the
roadmap
and
the
expectation
about
our
recovery
and
how
long
it
was
going
to
be
versus
how
long
it
is
or
has
been
so
far.
So
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
support
the
motion.
F
K
K
The
roadmap
doesn't
seem
right
to
me.
I
think
I
mean
this
was
already
has
already
been
prioritized,
but
it's
been
unfairly
prioritized.
I
I
would
say-
and
I
guess
I
think
back
about
some
of
the
reasons
that
people
shared
back
in
2019
or
even
before,
2019
about
why
plas
wouldn't
work
and
how
work
would
be
more
expensive
and
the
truth
is
that
building
in
san
jose
and
in
the
bay
area
is
expensive.
K
It
will
continue
to
be
expensive.
I
don't
foresee
it
changing,
especially
with
this
shortage
of
workers,
and
so
I
think
at
this
point
we
have
to
look
at
what
is
it
that
we?
How
do
we
want
to
have
workers
fare
out
in
the
workforce
and
what
kind
of
protections
will
we
and
opportunities
will
we
lay
out
for
for
people
and
so
the
for
me?
K
This
is
what
this
provides
is
an
opportunity
to
encourage
local
workers
and
their
employment,
and
when
I
think
about
the
resiliency
core
and
what
they're
offering
our
youth
in
terms
of
jobs,
it's
cleaning
up,
creeks
and
and
streets.
Some
of
it
is
tutoring,
but
most
of
it
is
the
for
the
for
the
most
part,
it's
cleaning
up,
creeks
and
and
streets,
and
and
that's
a
one-time
opportunity
to
earn
some
money.
K
But
this
provides
this
these
apprenticeships
that
that
my
colleagues
have
incorporated,
as
one
of
their
recommendations,
actually
offers
an
opportunity
for
a
career,
a
technical
career,
an
opportunity
for
people
to
stay
in
the
city
that
they're
living
in
I'm
not
going
to
reiterate
all
of
the
benefits.
I
think
my
colleagues
have
done
a
really
great
job
in
terms
of
laying
all
of
that
out.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
my
perspective.
K
For
for
the
folks
who
are
doing
the
most
difficult
work,
which
is
labor
hard,
labor,
so
so
anyways
I
I
won't
go
on
because
I
obviously
in
laying
out
the
reasons
why
I
will
support
this
memo,
and
I
thank
my
my
colleagues,
council
member
cohen
and
and
councilmember
sparza
for
submitting
this
to
rules
and
making
sure
that
we
keep
the
well-being
and
and
the
future
of
our
workforce,
labor
workforce
in
the
forefront.
So
thank
you.
A
So
all
right,
thank
you
and
I
see
councilman
cohen's
hand
back
up,
but
councilman
cohen,
I'm
gonna
jump
in
at
the
moment
here
and
we'll
come
back
around
so
first
off
to
kill
any
suspense.
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
moving
this
forward
to
the
to
the
full
council
and
it
shouldn't
come
as
any
surprise
in
regards
to
the
ass
that
we
have
here
at
the
table.
A
A
If
these
are
the
only
four
items
that
we
actually
moved
forward
to
change
that
the
actual
adjustment
of
those,
for
instance,
dropping
the
threshold
from
three
million
to
one
million
is
likely
not
a
lot
of
of
actual
hours
is
my
understanding.
Can
you
clarify
that
that
you
know
the
actual
work,
if
it's
just
these
four
to
change,
is,
is
actually
not
that
significant.
L
L
A
You
yeah
just
just
just.
Let
me
be
more
specific
in
the
question,
because
I
did
actually
read
that
in
your
early
consideration
form
and
I'm
very
well
aware
of
that
right
where,
at
times
when
we
ask
for
a
policy
change,
we'll
ask
for
you
know,
go
out
to
do
the
community
engagement
or
the
involvement.
Do
some
policy
work.
A
Let
me
be
more
specific
in
the
question.
None
of
that
would
be
included,
and
so-
and
this
is
hypothetical
at
the
moment,
but
let's
say
none
of
that
is
included.
It
is
strictly
just
you
know.
We
accept
the
fact
that
we
debated
this
years
ago.
We
did
the
outreach
and
engagement.
We
have
an
understanding.
We
can
dig
back
up
that
those
documents
we
simply
now
want
to
just
come
in
and
have
a
policy
shift
of
of
some
of
the
thresholds
and
and
the
exemptions
so
sans.
L
So
yeah,
under
that
scenario,
where
there's
no
policy
analysis,
that
staff
provides
then
just
adjusting
the
agreement
and
yeah
I
mean
norah
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
yeah.
This
is
I'm
just
looking
at
on
my
other
screen
at
the
four
items
we're
talking
about
changing
the
dollar
threshold.
L
That's
just
going
into
the
agreement
and
changing
the
three
to
a
one,
removing
the
cpi,
that's
probably
crossing
out
wherever
in
the
agreement,
says
cpi,
removing
the
project
exemptions,
that's
just
kind
of
taking
out
that
last
page
of
the
agreement
and
removing
the
references
to
it
and
in
the
agreement
right
now
it
does.
Oh,
it
does
specify
any
state.
I
forget
the
exact
language,
but
any
state
approved
apprenticeship
program,
not
just
joint
slash
union,
and
so
this
would
be
just
changing
that
to
joint,
and
so
just
the
contractual
changes
yeah
would
not.
L
A
Instance,
maybe
we
get
direction
at
the
full
council
to
do
some
other
things.
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
that
the
line
item
changes
himself
hypothetically
right
would
would
not
be
would
not
be
super
significant.
Let
me
get
clarification
from
nora.
That
would
that
be
the
case
that
that
you
know
minus
any
other
outreach
or
engagement
analysis
that
the
actual
line
item
changes
could
be
done
fairly
easily.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
yeah
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
gonna.
You
know
it
doesn't
take
any
time
at
all.
Obviously
somebody
has
to
go
in
there
and
rewrite
the
agreements
right
and
we
have
to
then
approve
them.
So
I
I
get
it
no
matter
what
it's
going
to
take
some
time.
I
just
wanted
to
to
get
a
clarification
on.
You
know
how
significant
of
timing
I
were
talking
about,
because
when
I
did
read
the
early
consideration
form
matt.
A
The
analysis
was
a
lot
of
direction
in
my
mind
on
allowance
or
paralysis
by
analysis,
the
the
idea
or
intent
of
there's
a
difference
of
opinion
on
the
council
and
could
a
majority
of
the
council
then
sort
of
delay,
progress
on
something
by
analyzing
it
to
death.
We've
seen
this
time
and
time
again.
This
is
not
something
unheard
of.
A
We
are
in
politics,
so
it
shouldn't
be
surprising
that
that
is
a
tactic
that
may
be
used,
and
so
I
think
that
is
a
lot
of
of
why
we
we
had
been
delayed
in
the
past
and
I
would
say
for
me
as
what
I'm
reading
in
the
the
memo
and
I'll
ask
councilmember
cohen
or
as
far
as
to
clarify.
But
what
I'm
reading
in
the
memo
doesn't
include.
Any
analysis
doesn't
include
for
us
to
go
back
out
and
you
know
and
have
a
detailed
community
engagement
or
negotiations
on
this.
A
I
believe,
personally,
that
we've
already
done
all
of
that.
We
landed
on
a
slightly
different
set
of
agreements
than
than
where
I
was
interested
in
a
couple
years
ago
and
and
now
there's
an
interest
in
in
a
direction
to
to
change
that
to
adjust
that
so
I'll
ask
councilmember,
cohen
or
esparza.
If
you
want
to
jump
in
just
to
clarify
what
exactly
I'm
reading
your
memo.
So
that's
how
I
read
it.
But
what
exactly
is
it
you're
asking
for
there
yeah.
I
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
look
as
somebody
who
is
here
during
that
discussion
from
beginning
to
end
what
got
us
to
where
we're
at
today.
You
know,
I
would
agree
that
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
something
that
has
been
discussed.
In
fact,
the
threshold
was
something
we
debated
heavily
before
and
again.
The
analysis,
in
my
mind,
was
done
on
that
we
just
landed
somewhere
different
and
now
there's
an
interest
and
one
that
I
share
on
potentially
moving
that
now.
A
The
hypothetical
here
is
that,
as
this
goes
to
the
full
council,
if
a
majority
of
the
full
council
says
well,
wait
we'd
like
to
to
do
some
further
analysis,
and
so
that's
where
the
hypothetical
comes
in
then
yeah.
I
would
understand
matt
saying:
hey,
that's
going
to
take
a
significant
amount
of
work,
but
the
other
hypothetical
is
that
that
doesn't
happen
and
we
get
a
majority
of
the
votes
on
the
council.
That
say:
look
we
agree.
This
is
just
a
change
in
the
language.
We
don't
want
to
go
out
and
do
it.
A
A
L
Yeah,
absolutely
our
project
managers
have
a
responsibility
and
they
manage
their
their
construction
projects,
where
what
I
was
referencing
more
is.
This
is
not
something
they
learn
in
school.
This
is
not
a
and
most
engineering,
schools
don't
teach,
or
maybe
they
do
now-
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
been
in
school
so
and
they
should
probably
teach
them
the
more
social
side
of
engineering,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
used
to
this,
and
this
is
something
that
where
we
don't
want
to
make
mistakes,
we
don't
want.
L
That
needs
to
be
maximized
better,
and
so
that's
what
this
person
this
this
staffing
would
do.
It
wouldn't
take
that
responsibility
off
of
the
project
managers
and
as
an
organization
in
san
jose.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
policies
that
we
have
and
that
we're
adhering
to
and
and
something
that
we
have
not
invested
enough
in
until
more
recently
is
really
we
it.
It's.
L
It's
incumbent
upon
me
to
provide
the
resources
to
my
project
managers
so
that
they
can
adequately
do
their
jobs
and
to
train,
make
sure
they
have
the
training
to
adequately
do
their
jobs
and
that's
what
san
jose's
I
need.
Public
works
needs
needs
to
do
a
better
job
at
and
we
have
been
working
on
that
more
lately,
and
this
is
something
that
is
akin
to
that
sorry
to
I'll
stop
there.
I
don't
know
if
I
fully
answered
your
question.
A
L
It's
it's
there's.
No
one
focused
on
pla
right
now,
it's
kind
of
like
an
everybody
thing.
You
know
our
procurement
team
has
has
put
the
pla's
into
their
process
so
that
there's
a
trigger
on
anything
that
qualifies
for
a
pla
to
make
sure
the
pla
gets
into
the
agreement,
but
we
haven't
had
we
don't
have
a
particular
person
that
is
was
staffed
for
you
know,
for
you
know
you
you've
been
added
to
the
budget
and
your
focus
is
on
plas.
So.
A
L
A
Okay-
and
I
did
I
do
remember
that
from
when
we
debated
it
before
the
number
of
projects
that
would
be
captured
if
we
went
down
to
a
threshold
of
there
was
2
million.
We
were
talking
about
1
million
that
significantly
more
projects
would
be
included.
So
I
would
agree
with
you
there
that
the
12
projects
likely
hasn't
triggered
a
need
for
some
some
comprehensive.
A
You
know
wide
training,
but
that
this
change
would
would
would
require
that
and
we
would
want
people
to
be
to
be
aware
of
that
and
be
trained
and
look.
I
would
want
to
support
you
in
getting
the
staff
to
do
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
delay
the
action
and
actually
changing
the
policy,
and
here's
where
my
belief
is
is
I
prefer
to
have
the
in
my
mind.
A
My
guess
is
when
the
language
here
could
get
updated
and
that
time
between,
where
we
are
debating
in
the
in
the
budget
in
in
staffing,
needs
that
there
would
be
a
an
insignificant
amount
of
time
to
where
we
could
then
have
that
discussion
at
the
during
the
budget
hearings
and
ultimately
be
able
to
to
advocate
for
the
additional
staff
that
you
may,
that
you
may
need
to
get.
You
completely
stepped
up
and
to
get
your
staff
and
your
project
managers
completely
trained
on
on
overseeing
more
pla
projects.
A
But
I
would
rather
have
that
right
policy
versus
what
we
have
today,
which
is
not
have
this
pla
agreement
on
a
significant
number
of
projects
and
and
then
end
up
with
what
we've
seen,
which
is
some
unfortunate
projects
where
we
do
have
wage
theft
publicly
right,
where
we've
been
shamed
in
in
in
the
media
and
to
our
community,
where
they've
seen
some
of
the
projects
that
where
the
city
has
contracted
out,
and
we
have
challenges
and
issues.
And
I
think
a
lot
of
that,
as
we
know,
goes
away.
A
A
It's
a
fairly
low
bar
if
we
just
have
the
line
item
change
of
these
four
and
then
be
able
to
come
back
during
the
budget
to
actually
allocate
the
the
necessary
fte,
if
indeed
it
is
the
two
to
to
go
in
and
adequately
train
everybody
prep
everybody
get
everybody
ready,
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
you
know
the
realities
of
what
you've
stated.
Hey
look!
A
If
we
change
this
policy,
your
project
managers
are
not
going
to
be
up
to
speed
where
they
should
be
out
the
gate
come
february
or
march
right
or
before
the
budget
that
they're
not
going
to
be
there
and
and
that
we
need
to
accept
the
fact
that
that
that
will
be
the
reality
and
and
that
that
we
need
to
then
prioritize
during
the
budget
process,
to
get
you
the
resources.
You
need
and
accept
the
fact
that,
right
that
there
may
it
may
not
roll
out
perfectly
our
new
pla.
A
You
know
agreements
and
projects
may
not
roll
out
as
perfectly
as
you'd
like
them
to
or
we'd
like
them
to,
but
I'd
rather
have
that
policy
in
place
now
than
than
essentially
wait
and
gamble
to
see.
If
you
know
we
can
get
approval
in
the
budget
for
the
the
staffing
and
then
delay
it
and
potentially
even
end
up
with
more
projects
where
we
have
some
unfortunate
circumstances
that
there's
city
projects,
but
yet
there's
still
wage
stuff
going
on
or
delays
or
or
overruns,
and
you
name
it.
A
I
The
main
point
here
is
that
there
were
too
few
projects
captured
under
the
current
limits
to
provide
all
the
job
benefits
that
we
know
can
come
from
having
a
pla
in
place
and
given
that
we're
trying
to
as
council
members
said,
go
back
better,
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
offer
more
people
to
benefit
and
I'll
just
go
back
to
one
other
thing
that
matt
cano
mentioned
this.
This
overall
policy
expires
in
2024,
we're
not
proposing
a
change
in
that
expiration
date.
I
That's
the
point
at
which
the
council
will
revisit.
Is
it
working?
Is
it
not
working?
Does
it
need
to
be
to
are
other
parts
of
it
that
need
to
be
changed,
and
I
think
it
was
really
important
that
we
don't
mess
around
with
the
term
the
timeline
terms
of
the
contract,
but
we're
edit
we're
editing
existing
contractual
agreement
to
make
make
it
apply
to
to
more
of
our
workforce
here
in
san
jose,
so
I'll
wrap
it
up
there
thanks.
A
C
A
Yeah
no,
I
actually
agree
with
that.
I
just
I
wasn't
certain
and
I
think
it's
important
to
to
clarify
that,
because
I
do
think
that
it's
the
right
decision
and
giving
her
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
but
recognizing
what
we
you
know,
sort
of
what
could
have
been
done
and
but
I
can
support
that.
So
if
we
can
take
a
motion
then
to
defer
this.
A
E
Yes,
tony
coming
into
the
record
at
that
moment
and
saying
just
saying
what
she
said
on
the
record
before
before,
knowing
anything
that
in
itself
right,
there
was
illegal.
That
was
illegal,
because
this
is
this.
Is
this
is
a
legal
issue.
This
has
everything
to
do
with
the
police
department
and
a
body-worn
camera.
Okay.
This
is
evidence.
E
So
this
is
this
is
taking
2k
that
right
there
is
wrong.
Okay,
you're!
Not
going
to
tell
me,
oh
well,
it's
a
perception.
It's
an
opinion.
It's
a!
I
don't
know!
I
got
to
check
the
law.
No,
no,
that
on
its
face
is
wrong
and
you
can't
keep
doing
that
in
front
of
people
and
think
that
people
are
not
going
to
call
you
one
and
tell
you
how
inhumane
things
like
that
are.
This
is
where
these
are,
where
the
crimes
against
humanity
happen.
E
It's
not
some
guy
yelling
on
some
street
corner
and
somebody
afraid
that
they're
going
to
attack
him.
It
happens
right
here
in
the
language.
Do
you
know
how
subtle
and
how,
when
I
was
on
the
yard,
the
the
most
the
most
violent
gang
members
in
this
state,
I'm
there
living
with
it
and
there's
a
certain
energy
to
give
up
a
certain
way
that
they
talk
and
that's
what's
happening
here?
E
Is
that
you
talk
but
you're
having
like
two
or
three
conversations
at
the
same
time,
but
because
you
know
you're
on
the
record,
there's
a
very
refined
way
in
which
you
learn
how
to
communicate.
I
know
because
that's
how
they
communicate
in
there,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
something
this
is
the
piece
that
I'm
telling
you
that
I
see
it.
I
hear
it.
I
feel
it.
I
see
the
moves
and
it's
just
wrong
and
what
what
has
to
happen?
E
H
Hi,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
words
of
paul,
I
took
this
item
to
mean
from
the
words
of
tony
that
she
wanted
to
give
the
person
the
person
who's
asking
about
the
situation,
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
and
a
way
to
reschedule
this
for
another
time,
which
I
thought
was
a
very
decent
of
tony
to
do
at
this
time.
H
H
Cam
footage
the
privacy
issues
involved,
and
I
would
very
much
would
like
to
hear
public
discussion
about
why
this
this
woman
is
being
denied
the
chance
to
see
video
footage
of
her
life
story
and
or
why
her
lawyers
are
not
allow
that
either
and
so
yeah.
I
I
I
have
concerns
about
this
issues
a
lot
and
I
I
hope
you
know
you
made
some
steps
in
san
jose.
There
can
be
more
steps
to
work
on
this
issue
and
boy
I
mean
there's
body
camera
things.
H
H
A
Thank
you.
That
concludes
our
public
comment
and
I
will
add
blair
you
have
it
understood
exactly
correct.
I
know
it
was
an
abrupt
request
by
tony
as
we
started
the
item,
but
this
actually
is
to
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
of
the
appellant
here,
catherine
weiland.
Otherwise,
we
as
a
committee
could
have
simply
heard
the
item
her
not
being
present.
A
She
would
not
have
been
able
to
speak
on
it
and
then
we
could
have
voted
on
it
and
she
would
have
lost
that
opportunity,
so
it
may
have
been
abrupt,
but
it
actually
is
to
the
complete
benefit,
the
doubt
of
the
appellant
here,
and
hopefully
everybody
understands
that.
Okay,
we'll
now
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
motion
to
defer.
A
E
The
reason
why
that's
wrong
is
that
this
is
a
democracy
in
considering
the
the
the
reimagining
and
the
tone
that
we're
trying
to
take
as
a
city
to
start
pulling
authority
away
from
the
police
department
that
this
city
could
exercise.
That
is
what
I'm
saying,
you're
saying
that,
because
I
could
do
it
legally
well,
then
I
could
do
it
in
the
yastouwa.
That's
it
you
lost
out.
E
E
E
Maybe
an
ai
data
analytics
will
tell
me
how
to
legislate
morality,
how
to
be
moral
or
ethical,
or
even
just
decent
and
human,
within
the
context
of
city
government,
in
the
way
that
we
legislate
the
laws
by
which
we
hold
others
to
account,
for
there
is
it's
too
cavalier
man,
it's
you
you're,
not
really,
understanding
what
it
what
it's
like
on
that
end.
I
do
I've
lived
it
all
my
life,
man,
all
my
life,
and
so
this
is
why
I
can
see
it.
E
I
can
see
it.
I
can
spot
it
just
like
when
a
woman
when
a
woman
gets
abused,
her
her
ability
to
sense
danger
and
things
they
tell
him,
hey
pay
attention
to
that.
Well,
I
got
mine,
but
I
got
mine
in
a
different
place,
but
it's
the
same
principle
and
I
know
when
danger's
near
and
it's
right
here
in
this
council.
H
Thank
you,
blair,
beekman
thanks
for
the
meeting
today
it
was
helpful
and
important.
If
I
maybe
can
understand
what
paul
was
trying
to
say
you
know,
maybe
the
woman
is
uncomfortable
to
to
want
to
appear
the
appellant.
If
that's
the
case,
you
know
I,
I
don't
think
you
know,
there's
pressure
for
her
to
appear
and
I
don't
want
to
put
that
pressure
on
her,
but
I
you
know
really
from
my
end.
H
A
H
So,
in
my
final
remaining
time,
I
I
will-
I
will
continue
from
here
yeah
in
my
final
final
remaining
time.
I
would
like
to
consider
the
ideas
of
what
is
the
city
charter.
Commission
is
they're,
going
through
a
series
of
different
draft
recommendations
that
could
be
possible
for
the
future
of
the
city
charter.
The
ideas
around
a
technical
advisory
board
technology
advisory
board
were
mentioned.
H
There
was
no
mention
of
the
possibilities
of
open
public
policy
ideas,
good
civil
rights
and
good
civil
protection
ideas
and
practices
that
are
really
important
to
the
future
of
technology.
It
isn't
just
the
inventiveness
of
technology
anymore.
It's
the
you
know
the
civil
rights
and
civil
protections
that
come
with
the
invented
inventiveness
of
technology.
That
really
has
to
learn
it's
a
full
package,
and
that
has
to
be
learned
to
be
spoken
of
accordingly
and
together
and
it
takes
practice.
I
think
we
can
learn
it.
It's
important.
H
J
Hi
good
afternoon,
well,
I'm
back
here.
I
want
to
talk
about
the
debacle
of
the
porta
potties
over
at
phase
three
council
member
raul.
This
is
your
district.
This
is
a
disaster.
I
beg
you,
please,
let's
move
them.
You
can
split
them
up
in
three
ways:
they're
easy
where
they
can
go.
Get
clean,
united,
there's
two
porta
potties
over
at
heading.
You
could
move
some
there
there's
another
site.
J
I
just
don't
understand
why
nobody
seems
to
care
about
these
people
and
they
can't
even
use
the
porta
potties
at
nighttime,
because
there's
20
in
one
area.
This
is
this
is
a
mess
and
I've
offered
my
services.
I
can
show
them
where
to
put
them
and
nobody
has
reached
out.
Maybe
their
eagles
are
too
high.
They
don't
want
to
have
to
reach
out
to
me.
That's
fine.
These
porta
potties
need
to
be
moved
everywhere
that
we
needed
it.
They
can't
be
there
anymore.
They
need
to
be
moved
where
people
can
use
them.
J
We
can
split
them
up.
Also,
there's
two
families
out
there.
Councilwoman
arenas
there's
a
family
where
a
little
baby
is
younger
than
your
daughter
and
they're
living
like
dogs
with
the
rest
of
the
people
living
at
phase
three
and
home
first
has
been
out
there.
They
just
say
hi
how
you
doing.
There's
two
families
we
need
to
get
them
inside.
J
This
is
horrible,
they
don't
deserve
to
live
outside
or
even
in
an
rv
and
not
have
a
a
stable
environment,
and
you
have
people
getting
millions
of
dollars
and
what
are
they
doing
just
walking
around
I'd
like
somebody
to
look
into
home
first
and
maybe
ask
them
how
many
have
they
gotten
inside,
maybe
permanent
supportive,
some
of
the
rv,
not
that
places
on
evans
lane.
There
are
two
beautiful
families
that
need
to
be
inside,
not
living
at
phase
three
with
the
rest
of
the
folks.
A
K
Chair,
I
just
wanted
to
see
if,
if
maybe
gail
could
I
know
this
was
in
your
district.
But
if
she's
asking
for
support-
and
I
know
that
jackie's
been
working
with
a
lot
of
housing
for
families
and
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
connect.
But
I'm
sure
that
your
office
is
more
than
well
equipped
to
do
the
same.