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A
B
18Th,
oh
okay,
got
it
all
right,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
the
community
health
and
safety
test
first
meeting
for
April
4th
2023
and,
let's
start
with
a
roll
call.
Please.
C
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
we'll
call
for
the
task
force.
Councilwoman
renevial,
present
Bruce
finger.
A
D
C
B
Thank
you
and
we'll
see
if
Chris
will
be
able
to
join
us
and
Marcela.
Oh.
B
So
marcela's
here
and
then
Chris
may
join
us
later,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
skip
on.
We
we're
not
approving
the
minutes
for
March
our
last
meeting
at
on
March
7th
because
they
weren't
attached
to
Prime
web.
So
we'll
approve
those
at
the
next
meeting.
B
All
of
us
that
were
there
the
last
governing
body
meeting
when
we
presented
last
week,
I
can't
believe
it
was
last
week
it
felt
like
forever,
but
it
was
less
read
great
I'm
totally
not
getting
my
times
right.
I
couldn't
even
remember
when
Easter
was
I
was
like
we're
in
April
already.
So
that's
where
I'm
at
these
days,
we
did
have
a
presentation.
So
we
could.
B
That
would
probably
be
maybe
an
update
for
those
of
you
that
weren't
on
I
don't
know
if
anyone
watched
it
other
than
Bruce
was
anyone
in
a
waiting
room,
Valeria
claro
and
nobody
else,
I,
don't
think
so.
I
guess
I'll
start
with
that,
and
you
can
weigh
in
Valeria
and
Julie
about
that.
We
gave
a
presentation.
B
It
was
a
PowerPoint
and
it
was
just
kind
of
high
level,
some
of
the
things
that
have
happened,
the
last
quarter
and
then
we
always
attach
our
document,
which
is
the
quarterly
document,
and
that
gives
more
details
as
to
like
what
we
heard
in
our
listening
sessions
and
then
some
of
the
findings
we
actually
summarized
about,
like
the
preliminary
results
from
the
survey
and
so
Dr
Sanchez
gave
us
some
High,
Point,
High,
Level,
stuff,
I,
think
Dr
Sanchez,
who
gave
us
those
I'm,
not
sure,
but
it
was
helpful
just
to
have
a
summary,
and
so
those
were
available
and
Dr
Sanchez
was
ready
to
go
or
he
was
in
the
waiting
room
to
answer
any
questions
and
there
were
no
questions
at
all.
B
It
was
actually
surprising.
You
know
we
had
a
big
agenda,
but
a
lot
of
people
on
I
think
on
their
mind,
was
our
audit
and
one
of
the
presentations
we
had.
That
night
was
also
the
audit,
so
that
may
have
been
the
case,
but
you
know
we
were
ready
to
go
and
I
don't
know.
Is
there
anything
else?
You
all
want
to
add
to
that.
C
No
Renee
Julie,
thank
you
again
for
for
stepping
in
and
presenting
so
succinctly
and
perfectly
and
yeah
I
was
I
was
surprised.
There
were
no
questions
and
I
think
what
we
provided
in
a
slide.
Deck
was
just
enough
to
kind
of
have.
Like
a
you
know,
a
quick
frame
of
reference
of
updates
and,
like
you
said,
Renee
having
a
more
fully
detailed
report.
You
know,
as
always
part
of
that
deliverable.
E
B
B
That's
about
it,
yes,
acknowledge
councilor
Rivera
is
here
with
us
Chris
we
just
were
talking
about
the
presentation
and
that
there
weren't
any
questions.
So
is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
add
from
about
that
or
any
other
Communications.
B
You
knows
with
us
briefly,
oh
for
a
little
while
yeah,
that's
right,
yeah,
anything
else
that
you
want
to
communicate
to
the
crew
awesome.
F
I,
don't
think
so,
I
think
you
know
the
con
before
the
storm.
I
think
we'll
probably
have
a
lot
of
questions
if,
at
our
final
meeting
our
final
presentation
so.
B
So
the
other
thing
is
to
communicate
those
of
you
that
weren't
on
when
we
were
talking
before
the
meeting
started
is
Dr.
Sanchez
was
going
to
be
joining
us
to
give
a
presentation
on
the
community
engagement
survey
and
he's
very
sick,
so
he
will
be
joining
us.
We're
looking
at
the
next
meeting,
so
I
think
we
should
talk
about
that
and
see
if
April
18th
is
a
good
time
to
have
kind
of
a
next
iteration
of
the
community
engagement.
That's
happening,
not
just
the
survey
but
other
activities
happening.
B
So
let
us
know
if
that
isn't
a
good
date
to
do
that.
Otherwise,
that
we'll
we'll
let
him
know
that
to
plan
on
the
rescheduling
for
that
day,
and
we
will
talk
about
the
next
I'm
gonna.
Probably
let
Valeria
talk
about
kind
of
what's
next,
what
we're
needing
from
each
other,
but.
C
G
G
That
doesn't
mean
that
it
shouldn't
happen,
but
I'm
just
curious,
so
that
I
can
make
sure
that
we're
our
as
far
as
our
working
group
is
concerned,
that
we're
getting
in
all
of
the
recommendations
into
the
report-
and
you
know
we're
just
working
backwards.
A
C
Great,
thank
you
Monica,
and
if
it's
okay
could
I
do
a
quick
share
screen
of
that
timeline,
what
I
have
so
far
and
then
you
can
all
weigh
in
awesome.
Oh
Julie,
do
you
mind
giving
me
access
please.
C
Okay,
thank
you
all
righty,
so
this
is
what
I,
I
I'm
sure
you've
been
receiving.
C
My
gentle
email
reminders
about
this,
our
work
plan
for
2023
and,
where
we're
capturing
recommendations,
starting
to
kind
of
identify
it
so
I've
kind
of
divided
into
three
sections:
the
general
task
force
or
policies
and
practices,
also
alternative
approaches
in
community
engagement
and,
as
you
can
see,
as
as
each
of
your
groups,
have
said,
or
identified
certain
things,
whether
it's
through
the
working
sessions
or
learning
sessions,
I've
started
sort
of
capturing
it's
in
italics,
because
it's
just
my
way
of
being
of
support
to
you
to
you
know
sort
of
capture
some
of
the
things
that
you've
identified
as
as
the
work
has
that's
evolved,
but
essentially
this
is
where
we
need
to
start
to
formulate
those
potential
recommendations
so
that
we
can
utilize
our
time
together
as
a
task
force,
but
also
as
working
groups,
to
review,
revised,
refine
and
finalize
these
recommendations
that
ultimately,
will
go
into
that
final
report.
C
My
understanding
going
working
backwards
from
let's
say
the
governing
body
meeting
in
June
were
the
task
force
ultimately
will
be
making
it's
its
final
presentation
or
recommendations
and
everything
we
would
need
to
have
a
final
draft
of
that
by
May
23rd,
if
not
sooner
again,
we'll
we'll
confirm,
with
Julie
and
and
Renee
and
Chris
as
to
when
that
presentation
will
take
place.
C
B
So
I
agree
with
with
Valeria's
plan
to
get
all
the
like
a
final
draft
at
in
May.
That
date
she
said
May
23rd,
so
that
we
can,
and
sooner
probably
just
because
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
refinement
and
then
adding
in
different
pieces,
including
the
community
engagement.
So
that's
what
we
should
probably
shoot
for
is
mid-may
to
start
compiling.
That
and
let's
see
what
is
the
other
piece,
I
guess.
B
The
other
question
I
just
had
for
your
outline
when
you
say
priority
and
then
there's
outcome
or
the
recommendation
when
you
say
due
date.
Are
you
saying,
because
there
may
not
be
a
due
date
for
the
recommendation
for
a
particular
staff,
but
we
could
put
in
the
lead
like
which
departments
need
to
be
involved
with
this?
Is
that
what
you
were
yeah.
C
B
And
I
have
a
question
for
the
folks
that
were
on
the
drug
policy
task
force.
There
was
probably
a
template.
You
all
used
that
I
think
was
helpful.
It
was
I
want
to
remember.
It
was
like
a
matrix
and
I.
Don't
have
that
at
my
fingertips
because
I'm
at
my
other
office
but
I'm
wondering
if
that's
a
format
that
would
be
helpful
to
use
because
it
kind
of
outlines
similar
things
and
maybe
Emily
or
Maricela
can
talk
about
that.
What
were
the
things
that
were
included
in
that?
B
Because
I
think
what
was
helpful
is
like
there
was
like
short
term
and
then
kind
of
middle
range
and
then
long
term
and
I
think
I.
Don't
maybe
you
all
would
want
to
say
more
about
that
and
if
that
was
a
helpful
template.
D
Yeah
I
thought
it
was
really
helpful
because
it
was
I
almost
could
share
my
screen.
Maybe
if
we,
if
we
want
to
look
at
it,
I
don't
know,
but
it
we
had
long
yeah.
Let
me
pull
that
up.
It
was
in
sort
of
short-term,
long-term
and
or
intermediate
and
long-term
goals,
but
we
also
separated
it
by
topic
area,
which
is
very
much
by
our
different
subgroups.
So
we
could
do
that
same
way.
D
The
other
thing,
though,
that
was
really
important,
was
that
it
was
very
much
grounded
in
what
we
heard
from
community
and
so
I
just
want
to
raise
that
in
that
I'm,
a
little
worried,
putting
potential
recommendations
in
there
when
we
haven't
gotten
the
final
results
to
like
so
I'm
just
curious,
so
I'm
just
flagging
that
as
a
question
about
what
we're
going
to
do
in
this
midterm
report.
But
do
you
want
me
to
pull
up
the
that?
What
it
looks
like.
H
You
know
with
time
frames,
and
we
also
and-
and
we
were
very
deliberate
about
this-
each
recommendation
had
to
be
some
of
us:
did
it
more
than
others
had
to
be
justified
by
something
in
the
focus
group,
something
in
the
community
engagement
piece.
In
other
words,
we
are
not
the
experts
who
are
just
coming
up
with
our
best
ideas,
because
we're
smart
people
recommendations.
They
were.
H
We
actually
had
the
rationale
exactly
so
we
had
the
rationale
behind
it
and
then
once
we
had
all
of
that,
there
was
a
second
process
or
a
second
phase,
where
we
all
together,
determined
using
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
using
a
matrix,
but
basically
determining
what
we
as
a
whole
group
thought
made
sense.
What
we
should
push,
what
we
should
leave
out,
what
we
should
prioritize
Etc.
So
it
was
that
was
kind
of
the
two-step
process
and
I
would
also
say
to
Echo.
H
Emily
I
know
that
they're
going
to
be
more
focus
groups
we're
planning
one
here.
We
actually
have
about
15
people
this
week
that
were
putting
their
info
that
were
in
Spanish
doing
the
the
surveys,
but
we're
also
going
to
do
a
focus
group
and
I
know.
Mary
Louise
is
going
to
do
a
focus
group
and
they're
going
to
be
some
other
focus
groups.
I.
D
To
happen,
the
other
thing
I'll
just
mention:
okay,
so
here's
the
we
had
immediate
short
term
and
long
term
and
it
was
definitely
was
a
matrix
as
you
mentioned
Marcella.
D
The
other
piece
that
I
think
was
really
important.
Is
this
city
role
and
whether
some
of
this
work
is
in
process
or
new,
especially
for
council
members
to
sort
of
and
staff
to
say,
oh
well,
we're
actually
starting
to
work
on
that
we
wanted
to
lift
up
work
that
is
already
happening.
So
I
could
imagine
like
the
the
aru
being
one
of
those
right.
If
we're
recommending
expansion,
that's
not
a
new
model,
but
it's
something.
D
That's
in
process
I'm,
just
using
that
as
an
example,
not
that
that's
necessarily
going
to
come
out
in
the
recommendations
or
not.
The
other
piece
was
that
was
this
something
that
needed
funding
that
City
role
you
can
see
it
was
sort
of
funding
whether
this
was
needed
leadership.
Was
it
actual
ordinance
change?
So
is
there
like
legislation
that
needed
to
have
happen?
Was
this
a
collaboration
with
other
like
with
the
county,
for
example,
or
other
community
groups
and
I?
D
Think
the
fifth
category
was
just
advocating,
so
is
this
something
that
we're
advocating
to
happen
at
a
state
level
like
there
needed
to
be
a
state
policy
change
occur
so
that
then
the
city
would
support
any
Statewide
legislation.
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
what
this
city
role
piece
was.
I
I
also
I
think
those
are
great
suggestions.
Sure.
B
I
thought
I
saw
Mary
Louise
have
her
hand
up,
while
this
was
going
on.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
miss
you
for
that.
J
Just
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
Marcella
doctor
now
I,
just
it
just
split
my
mind
for
Doctor
Whoever
has
not
contacted
me
and
I
have
a
group
of
students
but
I
I.
If
you
talk
to
him,
please
I
I
know
that
the
last
time
that
we
spoke,
you
said
that
you
would
have
him
contact
me,
but
I
haven't
heard
from
him
and
I
really
don't
have
contact
information
for
him.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
accountable
for
that
piece.
Yeah.
I
To
jump
in,
of
course,
well
there
was
a
few
things:
I
wanted
to
I.
Think
a
lot
of
great
suggestions
and
I
I
take
Marcel's
point.
A
lot
of
our
recommendations
should
be
based
on
what
the
community
feedback
pieces,
but
I,
don't
think
they
should
be
limited
to
that,
because,
through
the
course
of
all
our
presentations,
we
have
insights
to
a
lot
of
the
issues.
I
The
communities
not
aware
of,
like
PTSD
in
the
fire
department
or
the
need
for
lactation
policy
for
the
fire
department,
so
I
think
it
shouldn't
be
restricted
to
that
and
I
think
Val.
When
you
talk
about
the
lead
person,
I
assume
you
mean
who's
responsible,
so
it
might
be
like
HR
and
the
police
chief
right.
C
B
I
think
there's
definitely
that's
a
good
point.
Annie,
there's
stuff
that
we've
been
working
on
policies
and
practices
that
we
could
probably
we've
already
there's.
In
some
cases
the
city's
been
already
moving
forward
with
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at
and
then
there's
other
stuff
that
it's
like
getting
gender
data
or
any
kind
of
demographic
data
has
been
impossible.
B
C
Into
both
of
your
points,
Renee
and
Annie,
that's
what
you
when
you
open
now
Google
doc,
that's
what
you'll
see
is
that
as
I
as
you've
all
been
making
progress,
you
know
progressing
the
work
forward.
I've
been
capturing
some
of
those
recommendations
that
you
yourself
have
earmarked
that
yet
this
is
the
next
step
and
and
then
you
get
to
go
in
there
and
refine
it.
However,
you
deem
appropriate.
B
And
it
probably
should
be
a
word
doc.
I
don't
know
if
this
one
was
a
word
doc
that
you
all
used
Emily
initially.
D
Definitely
had
it
in
a
word
doc,
but
we
had
it
formatted,
you
know
and
laid
out,
but
we
did.
We
had
and
Marcelo
I'm
trying
to
remember
each
of
our
subgroups
had
a
very
specific
format
to
work
from
where
we
actually,
as
Marcela
mentioned,
we
had
to
make
sure
we
identified
where
the
recommendation
was
coming
from
and
whether
it
was
grounded
in
our
guiding
principles
and
or
and
mostly
from
our
community
input.
I
can
try
to
resurrect
that
if
it
would
be
helpful.
B
C
Then
I
take
that
once
you've
all
approved
that
that's
the
final
copy,
I
take
it
and
I
create
the
you
know
the
final,
the
deliverable,
the
thing
that
looks
nicely
formatted
and
everything
these
last
two
quarterly
reports:
I
did
Lean
Into,
You,
Renee
and
Julie
for
some
final
revisions
via
canva.
Only
because
of
how
late
we
were
with
you
know
with
our
internal
like
it
was
like
a
last
minute
revision.
That's
the
only
reason
why
I
ended
up
sharing
that
cannaba
thing.
C
H
I'm
just
going
to
reiterate
when
we
set
out
to
do
this
and
the
reason
why
we
wanted
to
have
this
extensive
Community
engagement,
which
was
cut
short
for
lots
of
different
reasons
or
it
was
sort
of
truncated,
is
because
there
we
are
responding
to
a
moment
in
our
history
of
just
police
relations
in
general
and
a
need
to
reimagine,
Public,
Safety
and
so
I
really
encourage.
This
is
what
we're
doing
that
as
great
as
our
recommendations
are,
that
we
connect
to
them
and
we're
creative
and
we're
smart.
H
H
And
so
again
it
would
be
good
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
are
making
this
recommendations,
we
are
connecting
it
like.
We
did
with
the
MDS
task
force
to
the
rationale.
Isn't
just
that.
We
think
it's
a
good
idea
and
but
that
it
really
is
rooted
in
some
of
the
needs
that
have
been
expressed
from
the
community.
G
B
B
There's
probably
going
to
be
some
connections
that,
like
things
that
were
said
in
the
community
and
then
things
that
we've
been
looking
at,
even
if
they
were
like
parallel
with
our
presentation,
so
I
think
that
will
just
be
the
work
to
make
sure
they're,
aligned
and
then
there'll
be
some
internal
stuff
that
we
see
like
you
know
that
we've
observed,
and
that
would
be.
You
know
things
that
we
need
to
change
just
based
on.
You
know
some
of
the
information
that
we've
gotten
through
the
the
year.
G
Sorry
about
that
I'm
so
used
to
just
being
with
people
in
person.
Now
that
I
don't
even
know
how
to
work.
Zoom
I
agree
with
Marcela
and
Emily
that
you
know
that
was
sort
of
the
guiding
principle
for
doing
this
in
the
first
place,
so
that
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
first
look
at
those
before
we
get
into
it
and,
of
course,
honoring
what
Annie
said
about
fire
that
makes
sense
to
me
also,
but
how
we
can
connect
those
things
is
so
important
because
that's
sort
of
the
to
me.
G
The
entire
purpose
of
the
task
force,
was
that
my
question
is
and
again,
if
everyone
can
forgive
me
for
being
absent
and
and
maybe
this
has
been
covered,
but
just
really
having
an
extremely
concrete
timeline.
Now,
since
we're
getting
in
the
home
stretch
of
getting
everything
together
and
if
we
are
going
to
first
honor
what
happens
with
the
community
engagement,
how
that
changes,
our
timeline
and
what
we're
going
to
need
to
produce
in
order
to
meet
the
final
presentation,
Etc
and
I'm.
Also
curious.
Can
the
final
presentation
actually
be
in
July?
A
G
B
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I
was
thinking
Monica,
but
I.
Don't
want
us
to
say:
let's
keep
like
I
think
if
we
have
deadlines
and
we
keep
pushing
them,
then
it
just
gets
later
and
then
that's
like
summertime.
It's
not
like
we
want
to
be
presenting
during
the
summer.
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
are
taking
vacation
I'm
not,
but
hopefully
you
all
will
be,
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
the
actual
presentation
can
be
later
I
yeah.
B
And
actually
like
even
the
quarterly
like
turning
in
the
info
of
the
recommendations,
maybe
we
do
provide
that
information
first
and
then
we
do
a
follow-up
like
so
there's,
so
they
can
digest
it
versus
like
getting
it
on
that
Friday
before
we
have
a
meeting
and
at
a
governing
body
on
a
Wednesday.
So
does
that
make
sense
that
that
doesn't
maybe
help
people
digest
information,
but
anything
else
Chris.
Did
you
want
to
say
anything
about
that?
No.
F
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I
think
what
Monica
said
is
that
you
know
we
can
finish
our
work
by
the
end
of
June
and
then
do
a
presentation
sometime
in
in
July,
once
it's
all
compiled
and
put
together
so
I,
you
know
to
me:
I
think,
that's
fine!
We
just
need
to
schedule
a
time
that
we
can
do
that
and
do
it
in
a
way
that
you.
H
Was
something
else
that
we
said
we
wanted
to
do
and
in
fact
Dr
Sanchez
was
really
keen
on
this
as
well,
and
that
was
to
sort
of
represent,
and
maybe
we
do
this
after
July
or
I
mean
I
know
that
we
don't
want
this
to
go
on
forever
and
ever
Endeavor.
We
all
have
other
commitments
in
our
lives
as
well
and
professionally
and
personally,
but
we
wanted
to
have
an
opportunity
to
represent
our
recommendations
in
a
dynamic
way
with
Community
and
I.
H
H
That
we
were
planning
and
I
think
our
set
of
recommendations
based
on
the
community
engagement
and
the
policy
ideas
that
come
from
and
that
are
rooted
in
the
community
engagement
or
are
justified
by
the
community
engagement.
And
then
we
were
going
to
put
together
a
report
that
we
would
present
to
the
public
in
some
way.
Maybe
a
couple
of
community
forums
to
get
reaction
to
polish
and
finalize
before
we
say
so
the
world
these
are
our
final
or
to
the
city.
Council.
H
F
Yeah
I
don't
know
if
we
have
enough
time
to
do
that
without
extending
the
resolution
again
to
expanding
our
work.
You
know
an
additional
three
months:
six
months,
I,
don't
know
what
that
is,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
there
will
be
an
appetite
from
the
governing
body.
To
do
that.
F
You
know
I
think
we
had
hoped
that
Gabe
would
be
done
or
Dr
Sanchez
would
be
done
with
his
work
by
the
end
of
this
month.
I'm
not
sure
we're
on
task
to
do
that.
I
was
hoping
to
again
hear
from
him
tonight,
but
yeah
I
think
that's
cutting
it
pretty
close
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
piece
of
it.
H
A
H
H
Like
that
either
way,
yeah
I
mean,
if
we're
open
to
presenting
final
final,
not
just
the
city
council,
presentation,
I'm.
Thinking
of
like
the
actual
document
right
in
mid-july
and
I
I
feel
like
we
have
some
cushion.
B
So
I
think
like
it
sounds
good,
but
then,
when
it
like
getting
it
all
put
together,
and
does
that
mean
City.
B
F
B
We
can
strategize
more
about
that
and
think
it
through
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
know
if
I
agree
with
Chris,
but
I'm.
Maybe
to
hear
more
about
that,
because
really
this
is
just
like
hey.
This
is
what
you
all
told
us.
This
is
what
we
heard
from
you
all
and
get
reactions,
and
then,
if
there's
things
that
I
don't
know
like
at
what
point
would
we
then
say
there
was
more
input
given
that
at
that
presentation,
do
we
add
that
into
the
recommendations
that
then
would
go
to
the
governing
body?
B
F
Well,
let's
say
Gabe
in
the
survey
or
the
surveyor
said
that
safety
centers
would
be
a
good
idea
and
then
we
presented
to
the
public
and
the
public
is
like
overwhelming.
We
know
we
don't
want
those
here
in
Santa
Fe.
F
That's
just
that
there
was
just
some
crazy
thing
going
through
my
mind,
but
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
the
whole
committee,
so
I'll
I'll,
you
know
we'll
do
whatever
we
think
is
best,
but
you
know
I
don't
want
to
put
people
in
a
situation
where
they're
recommendations
that
we
make
are
then
different
from.
Maybe
what
the
public
wants
before
Council
as
an
opportunity
to
hear
all
the
information
I.
F
I
I
I
agree:
Council
Rivera,
because
I
think
we
saw
a
really
specific
populations
to
interview
whose
voices
weren't
heard
and
who
are
most
impacted
by
police
and
fire,
and
we
may
present
to
a
different
community
and
they
may
have
a
very
different
perspective.
G
I,
just
I'd
love
to
just
sort
of
dig
into
this
a
little
bit
more
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
there
on
both
sides
of
how
you
know,
because
essentially
right
like
the
whole
point,
is
the
community
engagement.
So
hopefully
the
public
agrees
with
some
of
the
things
and
I
think
that's
why
we're
engaging
and
that's
why
you
know
Dr
Sanchez
has
done
this
whole
thing
right
is
so
that
we
actually
are
being.
We
are
honoring
those
voices
and,
of
course
the
council
already
has
their
own
policies.
G
I
mean
the
way
that
we
pass
an
ordinance
right.
There's
always
public
comments.
So
there's
always
like
multiple
opportunities
for
the
public
to
weigh
in
on
things.
You
know,
but
I
also
think
you
know
there's
lots
of
different
creative
ways.
We
could
engage
with
the
public
and
re-um
represent
the
findings.
G
I
started
thinking
about
like
Mary
Louise
and
the
amazing
access
she
has
to
schools
and
there
could
even
be
you
know,
like
mini,
but
of
course
I'm
like
wow.
That's
a
lot
of
work,
but
you
know
presenting
this
in
some
sort
of
school
setting
or
even
at
the
community
college
and
starting
to
training
and
get
young
people
more
engaged
in
this
process
like
there
could
be
other
ways
we
could
do
it,
but
it
seems
like
I
really
would
love
to
talk
about
it
more
and
see
if
it
is
something
we
could
do.
H
And
our
alternative,
whatever
group,
all
right,
slash,
Community
engagement
group
when
we
meet
because
I
know
we're
going
to
meet
soon,
can
we
just
kind
of
come
up
with
a
brainstorm
and
then
represent
it
to
the
group
as
ways
of
doing
that,
just
different
ideas
on
how
we
can
do
that
in
a
dynamic
way?
H
I
I
just
think
it's
again,
I
think
it's
like
a
quality
control,
it's
respectful
of
the
community,
but
it
also
helps
us
I.
I
know
that
sometimes
I
just
need
reality
checks
from
Community,
even
in
my
work
right
and
I.
Do
this
I'm
like
completely
immersed
in
it
and
sometimes
I'm
like
oh
well,
based
on
all
of
these
things,
I
think
we
should
do
this
and
and
just
very
easily
they're
like
that
they're
they're,
very
simple,
to
say:
no,
we
don't
think
that's
actually
going
to
work
instead.
H
Okay,
so
I
mean
just
something
that
maybe
feels
informal
that
doesn't
but
I
I
do
think.
We
should
be
open
to
to
rethinking
something
if
it
really
just
doesn't
sit
well
for
with
with
people
from
Community,
or
at
least
it
gives
us
another
way
to
think
about
it
or
talk
about
it.
But
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
some
creative
ideas
and
then
maybe
throw
them
out
two
weeks
from
now
and
see
where
people
are
at
and
Council
Rivera
you're
on
that
and
so
you're
on
our
committee.
H
And
so
you
can
share
deeply
what
your
concerns
about
with
the
console
and
I
think
we
can
figure
either
a
way
around
it
or
not,
because
I
mean
I'm
I'm
open
to
hearing
what
some
of
those
concerns
are
and
if
you
think
it's
going
to
somehow
derail
our
process.
Because
if
that's
the
case,
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
D
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
also.
The
purpose
of
this
group
is
to
represent
the
community,
and
so
they
are
our
constituents
as
member
as
appointed
members
to
this
group,
and
so
and-
and
we
did
hear
early
on-
you
know
we're
a
small
group
and
we
don't.
We
all
come
to
this
with
different
experiences
and
expertise,
but
not
all
of
us
represent
necessarily,
you
know.
Not
all
of
them
represent
the
most
impacted.
D
Like
myself,
I
know,
I
don't
represent
most
impacted
folks
when
it
comes
to
these
issues,
and
so
I
would
feel
more
comfortable.
Knowing
that
we
have,
you
know,
consulted
with
Community
before
signing
on
to
various
recommendations.
F
B
I
hear
you
Chris,
maybe
we
shouldn't
say
general
public,
because
the
general
public
is
also
people
that
are
at
risk.
This,
like
a
whole
gamut
but
as
we
know,
there's
one
side
that
may
see
something
different
from
the
general
public.
So
maybe
not
say
general
public
there'll
be
differences
of
opinion
from
other
parts.
Other
community
members,
possibly-
and
maybe
some
would
agree,
especially
those
that
are,
you
know,
most
impacted,
so
yeah
I,
think
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
though
Chris
and
then
I
think
you
we
could
strategize
on
that.
B
A
little
bit
more
I
think
Monica
had
your
hand
up
first
and
then
Mary
Louise.
G
I
just
wanted
to
just
say
that
I
totally
respect
that
concern,
and
and
at
the
same
time
you
know,
as
you
know,
as
a
former
public
defender,
the
amount
of
people
that
I
represented
that
were
part
of
the
quote-unquote.
What
maybe
some
people
would
see
is
the
general
public.
It
really
is
all
of
us.
We
all
break
the
law.
All
of
us
do
my
little
Grandma
breaks
the
law.
I.
Do
everybody
on
this
little
panel?
Does
it's
just
about
to
what
degree
and
to
whether
or
not
you
get
caught
law
enforcement
breaks?
G
Does
everybody
does
right
and
that
it
it's
part
of
this
work
is
trying
to
get
everybody
to
be
honest
with
themselves
and
understand
and
pull
from
that
empathy
that
we
all
do
these
things
and
that
we're
we're
one
Community
right
and
and
Bruce
finger
shaking
his
head
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
his,
if
that's
a
computer
or
not,
but
even
Bruce
has
broken
the
law
before,
but
we
all
do
it
right
and
and
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
both
challenge,
a
gentle
challenge,
challenge
to
get
people
to
come
to
that
place
and
pull
on
that.
G
G
So
you
know
it
just
sort
of
like
remembering
that
and
still
gently
trying
to
challenge
them
that
we're
all
one
Community
we
all
live
here
in
Santa
Fe
and
how
we
can
make
that
better
through.
You
know
engaging
with
folks
and
education
and
doing
the
hard
work,
even
in
the
face
of
challenges.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
real,
quick.
J
So
Monica
thank
you
for
saying
that,
because
we're
all
law
breakers
for
sure
so
I
have
a
different
perspective.
I
feel
as
though
it
puts
the
city
council
it's
raised.
It
raises
the
bar
for
you,
guys,
city
council,
like
we're
we're
presenting
this,
and
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
it
and
I
feel
like.
J
That
could
be
hard
for
the
city
council
to
see
that
the
community
is
actually
on
board
with
recognizing
that
people
listen
to
them.
They
shared
the
gift
of
listening,
they
respected
where
they
came
from
what
they
had
to
say.
We
on
this
task
force
listened
to
people
from
the
fire
department
from
the
police
department.
J
We
gave
ourselves
an
opportunity
to
share
the
gift
of
listening
with
them
and
now
we're
presenting
to
the
city
council,
so
I
feel
as
though
Renee
and
counselor
Via,
Real
and
counselor
that
you
guys
are
on
the
hot
seat,
because
we
we
want
and
you're
on
this
task
board
with
task
force
with
us.
J
But
you
expect
your
colleagues
to
raise
the
bar
as
well
and
so
I
think,
that's
what
maybe
you
guys
might
be
afraid
of,
but
I
hope
that
our
work
wasn't
done
in
vain
right,
like
I
hope
that
people
can
do
for
this
task
force
and
the
community
that
we're
representing
what
we
did
for
them
and
for
us,
and
so
that
I
see
this
from
a
different
perspective
and
I
I
hope
that
I'm
not
offending
you.
Because
that's
not
my
intention,
but
here
we
are.
B
Thanks
Mary,
Louise,
I'm
I'm,
certainly
not
afraid,
like
a
lot
of
the
things
that
might
be
like.
Oh
my
OMG,
how
would
you
ever
think
of
doing
something
like
that
and
it's
based
on
Research,
it's
based
on
community
input
and
you
can
take
it.
It's
a
recommendation
and,
frankly,
like
some
of
the
things
that
might
be
like.
Oh
my
gosh,
how
did
you
even
think
of
doing
something
like
that,
maybe
later
on
in
the
Years,
when
we're
all
gone
or
I'll,
be
off
the
council
or
whatever
they'll
be
like?
B
Oh,
that
was
an
actual
recommendation
from
the
task
force,
and
maybe
we
should
have
thought
about
it.
I
just
think
it's
good
to
put
it
down
whether
it's
it
gains
the
kind
of
traction
that
it
needs
or
deserves,
or
not
it's
still
a
recommendation
that
was
based
and
grounded
by
Community
input
and
research
and
data.
So
it's
not
like
we're
just
pulling
things
out
of
the
air.
You
know
it's
like
this
was
very
much
a
process
that
we
also
had
Community
I
mean
it
was
the
that
was
the
Crux
of
it.
B
The
community-based
community-based
process,
and
also
you
all,
are
constituents
too
you're,
not
just
a
task
force.
You
are
community
members
that
have
experience
and
lived
experience
and
expertise.
So
I
don't
see
it
as
like.
You,
you
only
having
constituents
to
hear
because
you're
in
this
role,
but
you're
also
a
constituent
of
ours
and
other
you
know
in
others.
So
I
guess
I
just
see
that
this
it's
a
representative
represented
group
and,
of
course,
there's
more
of
a
you
know
a
larger
population
that
we're
looking
at
too
so
I'm,
not
afraid
of
whatever
we
decide.
B
After
the
you
know,
everything
is
put
together
what's
put
forth
and
you
know
there'll
be
things
that
people
are
really
like.
How
could
you
ever?
But
you
know
what
later
on
they'll
be
like?
Oh
yeah,
maybe
that
could
have
worked.
I
mean
this
whole
thing
about
safe,
Living,
Spaces
and
how
fearful
everyone
is
about.
Putting
a
space
where
people
can
live
safely
is
a
way
better
option
than
having
people
live
in
the
Arroyos,
and
it's
a
I
mean
there's
just
like.
Obviously,
we
need
to
find
places
that
make
sense,
but
it
just
it's.
B
B
That's
inhumane
I
mean
you
would
never
want
someone
to
live
way
out
there
with
no
ability
to
access
anything.
That's
crazy,
so
I'm
just
saying
that's
an
example
of
like
this
bigger
picture
that
I
see
as
like
yeah
there's
some
things
that
will
be.
You
know
cause
consternation.
That
always
is
the
case
on
the
council
in
the
community.
B
So
but
I
agree,
let's,
let's
be
strategic
about
the
best
placement
of
like
where
we
give
it
to
the
council
when
we
want
the
community
to
hear
what
we
came
up
with
based
on
community
input
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
other.
There
would
be
other
opinions
too.
There
always
is
so
I
think
we'll
find
that
sweet
spot.
If
and
I'm
sure
we
can
figure
that
out,
maybe
not
tonight
but
yeah
and.
F
F
All
the
council
represents
the
same
kind
of
people
that
I
think
I
represent
on
the
south
side
and
you're
going
to
have
different
opinions
and
you're
going
to
have
different
points
of
view
when
it
comes
to
voting
on
things
in
you
know
again,
I'll
I'll
put
my
best
foot
forward
and
and
represent
whatever
the
committee
wants,
but
just
so
we
know
we
are
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
Two
different
communities,
I
think
between
Northside
and
south
side
and
between
people
that
are
represented
by
groups
of
that
I.
G
G
A
G
K
B
B
B
Sorry,
a
what
would
you
call
it
a
public,
a
public
Gathering
of
our
findings.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
that
needs
to
happen
it
just
when
that
happens.
We'll
have
to
figure
that
out.
So
any
other
thoughts
before
we
move
on.
H
I
would
just
say
if
we
wanted
to
yeah,
we
can
have
this
conversation
in
our
smaller
group
and
then
come
up
with
ideas
and
present
them
and
see
what
you
all
think,
but
the
other
thing
is.
We
could
also
just
send
out
an
invite
to
anyone
who
was
somehow
involved
in
this
process.
Right
I
mean
to
anyone.
Anyone
who
presented
anyone
who
we
contacted
for
focus
groups,
interviews
Etc,
so
it's
they're,
seeing
their
ideas
being
reflected
back
in
the
recommendations
that
were
made.
Maybe
that's
one
way
to
contain
it
more
anyway.
It's
just
an
idea.
B
That's
good
yep
I'd,
like
that
idea,
also
just
before
I
forget,
and
you
may
have
already
done
this
I-
think
it
also
as
it
relates
to
Alternative
responses
specific
to
the
aru.
If
you
all
haven't
reached
out
to
the
team
of
aru
as
they're
kind
of
in
this
growth
phase
of
needing
to
grow
because
of
the
need,
and
then
you
know,
there's
other
things
that
still
need
to
happen
for
them
to
to
grow
and
we've
gotten
presentations
at
our
various
committee.
B
Meetings
for
the
city
and
I
am
hoping
that
maybe
you
all
could
reach
out
to
them
to
just
get
some
more
insight,
as
you
start
making
recommendations
and
as
we
get
community
feedback
because
I
think
we'll
get
some
Community
feedback
as
it
relates
to
aru.
But
it
I
know
we've
had
presentations,
but
it
may
be
good
for
your
working
group
to
kind
of
circle
back
with
them.
B
I
think
we've
morphed
into
like
Matters
from
the
task
force.
So
that's:
okay,
anything
from
staff
and
Valeria
and
Julie
that
we
missed.
C
No
I
I'm
really
appreciating
how
this
conversation
unfolded.
Thank
you,
Emily
and
Julie
for
sharing
that
does
the
report
from
the
drug
policy
task
or
sorry
if
I'm
butchering,
because
then
I'm
gonna
take
that
and
based
on
the
input
here
tonight
and
ideations
I'm
gonna
put
some
things
together
to
you
know.
Have
you
all
look
at
weigh
in
revise
refine,
so
we
have
a
framework.
It
feels
really
in
alignment
with
how
you
all
want
to
convey
your
message
and
also
the
recommendations
that
you'll
be
making.
B
Let's
see
so
we
don't
have
a
presentation.
Is
there
anything
else
from
matters
of
task
force?
I,
don't
know
if
working
group
breakouts
make
sense,
I
see
that
we
lost
Emily
I,
don't
know
if
she
had
to
go.
Did
I
miss
that
I
miss
her
I,
don't
see
her
anymore
and
then
Gino
had
to
leave,
but
I
would
like
to
just
see.
B
If
maybe
our
working
group
could
pick
a
date,
but
we're
probably
gonna
have
to
do
it
via
email,
because
we
don't
have
Geno
now
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
are
going
to
meet
the
other
working
group
to
talk
or
if
we
should,
if
we
feel
complete
for
our
meeting
today,.
B
And
any
in
any
insight
any
thoughts
and-
and
he
has
a
thumb
up,
Chris
anything.
F
K
F
G
G
I
mean
we've
seen
some
of
those
meetings
actually
yeah.
It's
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
you
guys
do
this
as
a
very
sensitive
person.
You
know
who
also
likes
to
fight
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
you
guys
do
this
all
the
time
right,
I
mean
it's
hard.
Yeah
I
mean
lawyers
right
we're
all
we
do
is
fight
all
day
long,
but
what
you
guys
do
is
very
unique
and
hard
being
an
elected
official,
it's
very
difficult
and
it's
hard
because
you're
constantly
you're,
you
know
you
can
never
win
foreign.
B
Well,
what
I've
learned
is:
there's
always
two
sides
there,
the
extreme
of
positions
and
that
are
diametrically
opposed
from
each
other
and
then
there's
the
silent
middle
that
we
don't
hear
from
very
often
hardly
ever
sometimes
they
write
us
sometimes
they'll
tell
us
what
they
think
on
the
street,
sometimes
they're
a
relative,
sometimes
they're,
our
friends
and
they're,
the
silent
majority.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
what
we
don't
necessarily
hear
from
everybody,
and
so
when
you
have
a
process
like
this,
this
is
community-led.
B
B
And
Emily
you
missed,
we
thought
we
lost
you,
we
were
about
to
wrap
up.
D
B
B
We
do
I
can
say
that
now
but
yeah
if
we're.
If
we
want
to
go
briefly
into
our
breakout
groups,
I
we're
missing
a
member
and
we
need
to
just
regroup
and
and
this
other.
This
conversation
is
also
kind
of
like
made
me
think
about
some
other
things,
but
maybe
we
can
just
briefly
go
into
our
our
working
groups
and
the
breakouts
so
like.
So
maybe
we
should
just
plan
ahead
like
our
next
meeting
or
when
it
whenever
you
guys
are
gonna.
The
other
working
group
is
going
to
come
together
to
talk
about.
H
And
so
maybe
that's
what
we
just
that's
the
extra
step
that
we
need
to
kind
of
help
not
just
justify,
but
to
really
help
us
know
that
these
good
ideas
that
we've
been
coming
up
with
are
actually
you
know
that
make
sense
to
impacted
groups
and
I
have
a
feeling
they
will.
And
so
maybe
that's
just
that,
like
that
little
extra
step
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
presenting
things
that
are
grounded
I,
say
that,
like
with
the
lactation
stuff
like
good
policy
idea
and
I
bet,
you
people
are
going
to
be.
B
K
G
C
C
Group
two
with
with
Chris.
A
I
A
C
Yes,
our
our
friends
who
had
their
house
up
for
sale,
they
had
an
offer
and
the
person
pulled
the
offer
and
so
we're
staying
in
their
guest
guest
house.
Yeah.
F
E
C
No
I,
just
I
for
me
and
I'll,
send
in
a
little
action
item,
email
tomorrow,
I
think
for
me.
I'm
gonna,
study
that
drug
policy
task
force
a
recommendations
report
to
see
the
elements
of
that
framework
and
put
put
a
similar
framework
together
for
for
all
of
you
to
weigh
in
so
that
we
have
a
framework.
That's
reflective
of
what
in
how
you
want
to
present
your
recommendation,
but
it
sounded
like
that
report
was
a
good
starting
point.
Yeah.