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B
A
C
No
I
was
talking
to
Renee
and
she
needs
a
code
to
be
let
in
so
just
to
counsel
very
all
need
some
assistance
there.
So
yeah.
D
A
E
Mr.
chair
councillors,
thank
you.
I
want
to
introduce
a
few
of
our
staff
that
is
present
with
us
today.
That
will
be
assisting
with
our
presentation.
Our
planning,
an
investment
officer,
Bradley
flitch,
is
joining
us,
our
budget
officer,
Alexis
lechero
and
our
senior
budget
analyst
Andy
Hawkins.
These
are
familiar
faces
to
you
all,
even
though
other
faces
are
not
on
line
tonight.
Many
of
you
are
there.
We
go
there's
Brad
many.
F
E
E
Great
we're
gonna
review
our
FY
20,
but
structure
with
you.
We
know
that
there's
been
some
significant
changes
in
the
last
few
months
for
this
last
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year,
but
we
did
want
to
do
a
review,
especially
for
the
new
counselors
of
the
approved
FY
20,
but
structure.
What
our
revenue
base
is
where
the
expenditures
lie
and
then
moving
on
to
a
2020
economic
update.
E
A
And
then
I
just
want
to
note
for
the
record
that
Councilwoman
Bri
al
has
joined
the
meeting.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
minutes
reflect
that
she
is
present.
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
okay
and
then
Mary
and
staff
I
want
to
allow
for
questions
as
we
go
through
the
each
slide.
So
if
you
can
just
take
your
time
and
then
and
give
us
a
chance
to
raise
our
hand
or
speak
up,
if
we
have
questions.
A
F
Councilors
and
so
this
is
the
FY
20.
F
Of
April,
4th
and
I
want
a
late
look
at
the
pie
chart
on
the
left.
That's
all
funds,
that's
the
whole
city,
and
that
pi
is
approximately
three
hundred
and
thirty
eight
million.
Three
hundred
and
thirty
eight
point:
four
million
dollars,
that's
the
size
of
that
pie
and
you
can
see
that
fee
for
service
or
fees
and
services
and
taxes
are
the
two
primary
drivers
of
the
city's
revenue
sources.
F
F
So
out
of
that
pie,
you
know
it's
what
forty
three
percent
so
I
think
in
the
next
slide.
It
tells
us
it's
sixty
seven
percent
of
the
of
the
general
fund,
so
looking
at
the
pie
chart
on
the
right,
that's
the
general
fund.
That
pie
is
a
hundred
and
three
point
six
million,
and
you
can
see
that
85%
of
that
is
made
up
of
taxes
and
those
taxes
are
GRT
property.
F
It
does
not
include
lodgers
tax
lodgers
tax
is
in
the
blue
piece
on
the
Left
pie,
but
it
is
not
in
the
right
pie,
I
think
when
you
think
about
it:
the
third
largest
piece
in
all
funds.
We
have
a
three
hundred
thirty
eight
million
dollar
pie
that
inner
governmental
grants
at
ten
percent.
You
know
that's
roughly
thirty,
four
million
dollars.
So
while
it
may
look
like
a
small
piece
in
the
pie,
it's
a
big
dollar
number
and
an
important
that's
federal
state.
A
lot
of
transit
grants.
Airport
grants
things
of
that
nature.
F
F
A
F
F
F
A
F
That
is
correct.
You
know
like
let's
look
at
the
general
fund
or
all
funds
PI
and
the
largers
tax
piece
at
three
percent.
No
state
statute
drives
how
that
money
is
to
be
used.
Okay,
you
know,
and
you
know
we
have
some
ordinances
around
it
also,
but
it's
primarily
steep
driven.
We
can
use.
You
know
grants
when
you
look
at
grants.
You
know
that's
very
specific
to
either
transit
Airport,
it's
a
capital
project,
Community
Service
seniors.
F
F
Well
from
the
budget
this
year
we
had
66
million
of
the
hundred
and
twelve
million.
Roughly
half
of
gross
receipts
is
pledged
revenues-
that's
66
million
we've
seen
in
the
previous
numbers
out
of
these
pies.
You
know
you
would
take
the
46
million.
That
mary
has
mentioned
a
number
of
times
of.
What's
gonna,
be
our
budget
shortfall
which
she'll
talk
about
later
I,
believe,
okay,.
G
F
C
H
F
Our
current
ratio
is
6
times
coverage.
We
have
6
times
as
much
money
pledged
as
we
owe,
and
then
you
add
the
subordinate
lien,
and
that
goes
up
to
our
annual
debt
services
being
21
million.
In
that
21
million
we
have
just
over
three
times
coverage,
which
is
a
very
good
numbers.
I
mean
that's,
why
we're
double
a
plus,
but
my
point
is.
A
If,
if
GRT
drops
that
we
still
have
to,
we
still
have
to
stick
to
those
levels
and
pay
that
so
that's
even
less
with
that,
we
can
use
for
expenses
from
the
GRT
that
we
do
have,
because
we've
got
a
psyche
on
it.
You
got
to
pay
your
mortgage
first
and
then
whatever
is
left
over.
That's
what
you
can
use
to
go
out.
E
Thank
You
Brad
we'll
be
moving
on
to
the
structure
of
our
approved
FY
2010
de
jure
z--,
again
taking
two
different
snapshots:
the
orphans
budgeted
expenditures
and
the
general
fund
which,
as
the
chairman
mentioned,
is
a
subset
of
all
funds.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Alexis
Botero
the
budget
officer
to
walk
us
through
these
slides.
I
I
Non-Departmental
is
also
a
major
slice.
It
includes
the
debt
service
we're
talking
about
earlier
suami
and
the
Buchman
direct
diversion
together.
These
three
entrance
entities
represents
nearly
half
of
the
total
budget
you're
pretty
dominant
in
this
slide,
and
this
is
how
the
the
expenditures
are
broken
out
by
category.
The
fixed
costs
is
a
major
category
for
the
all
funds
budget.
I
I
I
J
E
J
E
A
K
K
G
A
E
Mr.
chair
counselors
and
the
majority
of
these
are
in
our
FY
20,
but
are
set
for
the
city's
footprint,
for
example
the
utility.
We
have
to
pay
our
utilities,
you
know
and
if
we're
running,
multiple
different
facilities
as
our
footprint
to
provide
services,
those
are
considered
fixed
costs
same
with
our
insurance.
A
Okay,
but
like
long
term,
the
way
you
can
adjust
or
lower
your
fixed
cost
is-
and
this
is
very
long
term
is,
like
you
said
as
far
as
utilities,
we
have
a
bunch
of
buildings,
we
got
a
pair
utilities
and
we
had
one
city
hall,
for
example,
where
it
was
just
a
huge
complex.
Instead
of
all
these
multiple
buildings
that
might
be
a
way
to
adjust
our
fixed
costs
downward.
Mr.
E
K
E
A
G
G
I
Okay,
mr.
chair
councillors,
this
is
how
the
expenditures
in
the
general
fund
appears.
It's
important
to
note
on
this
slide
in
particular
that
half
almost
half
of
the
general
fund
budget
is
fire
and
police
Public,
Safety
and
public
utilities
is
very
small,
because
the
only
general
fund
budgeted
for
public
utilities
is
for
graffiti
management.
Okay,.
A
E
Your
chair,
that
is
correct,
and
it
can
refer
you
back
them
Anna.
So
the
girl
fund
expenditure
side,
I'm
gonna,
reverse
these
slides,
so
show
you
here
of
the
general
fund
budget
that
one
hundred
and
that
Brad
was
referring
to
the
largest
revenue
into
that
is
PRT,
which
is
where
we
expect
to
see
the
largest
decreases
in
the
last
quarter
of
FY
20
and
then
also
going
into
F
1
e
1.
So
the
largest
portion
of
revenue
going
into
the
general
fund
will
be
shrinking.
E
A
J
E
Mr.
chair
councillor
I,
yes,
that
is
a
great
we're
going
to
go
over
a
few
slides,
the
different
vectors
of
gross
receipts
and
the
largest
by
far
retail
trade,
clothes
and
then
combinations
hope
you
know:
Hotel
leisure
mortality,
including
food,
solvent
about
10%
and
so
the
retail
and
tourism,
and
drives
about
40%
of
our
economy.
There
are
study
that
we
can
share
there
with
you
that
I
believe
mr.
E
Randall,
the
director
of
tourism,
has
available
that
shows
the
impact
of
the
festivals
and
the
markets
that
normally
happen
during
the
summer
months
that
have
our
in
Canton's
on
the
hold,
so
I
will
make
sure
to
get
a
copy
of
that
and
share
it
with
you,
but
it
is
in
the
second
amount
of
GRT
and
their
employers.
Tax
other
supports
to
our
revenue
that
each
one
of
the
festivals
that
you
mentioned
has
and.
J
E
Mr.
chair
councillors,
Iveta-
that
is
something
that
we
have
been
in
touch
with
the
taxation
and
revenue
department
about
there
was
a
House
bill.
Six
that
was
recently
passed
that
starts
the
to
close
the
internet
sales
tax
loophole.
It
will
not
be
effective.
The
sick
portion
of
the
noctus
I
believe
about
thirteen
fourteen
months.
E
So
what
looking
at
now
is
a
diffusion.
There
was
an
appropriation
of
four
million
dollars
by
the
eight
allocated
based
on
a
population
formula
from
the
last
census,
and
so
our
share
of
that
twenty
four
million
each
month
approximately
is
sixty
thousand
dollars,
so
we
are
not
seen
which
is
about
750,000
annually.
We
are
not
seeing
our
share
of
the
GRT
from
the
internet
sales
that
are
happening
now,
as
purchases
are
being
shifted
from
retail
bricks-and-mortar
to
the
internet.
Nor
will
we
see
that
our
shared
the
city
share
of
GRT.
J
E
Mr.
chair
councillor
Avada,
that
is
something
that
we
are
considering,
given
that,
for
example,
we
have
allowed
to
ferment
of
water
utility
for
any
utility
water
utility
customer
at
the
moment.
That
is
also
something
that
we
are
looking
at
as
a
city
to
help
balance
the
current
year
budget.
We
can
have
further
conversation
with
our
City
Attorney's
Office
and
get
you
a
specific
answer
to
your
question
very.
A
L
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I'm,
sorry
to
butt
in
line
ahead
of
councillor
Lynn
Delson
she's.
Actually
a
member
of
the
committee
and
I'm
just
a
sidebar
here,
but
I
I
wanted
to
take
up
your
invitation
just
for
a
minute
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
additional
context
to
what
Mary
and
her
team
were
already
positing
in
front
of
the
committee
and
the
other
council
members
who
were
part
of
the
conversation
first
I
hope
everybody
got
a
link
to
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors
fiscal
pain
index
that
they
are
assembling
of
cities
across
America.
L
If
you
did
not
get
that
link
I
think
Christine
has
it
and
can
distribute
it.
It
is
a
city
by
city
accumulation
of
the
extent
to
which
virtually
every
city
in
the
United
States
has
these
charts
or
their
version
of
these
charts.
So
I
would
first
of
all
just
urge
everyone
to
benefit
from
looking
at
the
entire
field
of
urban
fiscal
pain
that
is
rippling
across
America
and
take
advantage
of
what
other
cities
are
are
doing
or
are
not
doing
as
we
go
to
school
on
their
experience
and
begin
to
evaluate
our
own
options.
L
The
second
thing
I
would
do
I
would
recommend,
is
an
exercise
that
chairman
of
ADA
and
I
have
talked
about
previously,
because
these
numbers
are
really
killing
as
they
the
China
the
fiscal
challenge.
The
global
financial
meltdown
is
real.
At
the
same
time,
we
are
called
upon
to
frame
our
choices
in
ways
that
respond
to
this
challenge,
as
strategically
as
we
can.
So.
The
exercise
that
counselor,
bethe
and
I
have
talked
about
is
one
that
I
really
personally
subscribe
to
it's.
L
What
Mary
and
her
team's
charts
begin
to
line
out,
and
that
is
a
kind
of
a
superstructure
of
an
analytical
tool
called
Tina
ti
na
which
stands
for
there
is
no
alternative,
and
so
I
would
I
would
recommend
not
just
looking
at
the
numbers,
but
looking
behind
the
numbers,
as
counsel
Rivera
just
did
to
say
well
what
about
the
revenues
from
markets?
Fiestas,
tourism,
festivals?
L
L
It's
open!
It's
an
open
question.
So
far
as
to
whether
or
not
the
federal
government
will
or
will
not
render
any
assistance
to
states
and
cities,
so
I'd
say
as
far
as
there
is
no
alternative.
We
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
one
yet,
but
we
do
know
some
other
facts
that
Mary's
data
help
us
not
just
look
at
the
numbers,
but
look
at
the
assumptions
behind
the
numbers,
and
so
one
thing
that
this
into
every
one
of
us
as
an
individual
can
assemble.
L
What's
nice
to
have,
but
not
need
to
have
what
do
we
consider
a
luxury
again
measured
against
those
items
for
which
there
is
no
alternative,
so
the
numbers
are
important,
but
I
think
even
more
important
is
the
operating
assumptions
and
things
for
which
there
is
no
alternative
behind
those
assumptions
that
are
behind
those
numbers.
If
you
look
at
the
expenditures
by
Department,
those
are
not
things
for
which
there
is
no
alternative.
Those
are
facts
that
we
have
right
now,
but
we
have
alternatives
as
we
choose
to
make
choices
and
alternative
options.
L
I
hope
that
wasn't
too
either
confusing
or
long-winded,
but
I
think
what
you're
doing
is
incredibly
important.
Chairman
Abeyta
and
we
begin
this
dialogue
about
how
do
we
frame
our
choices
and
then
how
do
we
prioritize
our
options
going
forward?
Thank
you
for
letting
me
crash
your
meeting,
sir.
All
right,
Thank
You,
mayor
Councillor
in
delft.
M
M
E
M
E
E
I
I
I
The
second
largest
category
are
fixed
costs
which,
by
their
nature,
cannot
be
reduced.
Police
and
Public
Works
have
higher
fixed
costs
due
to
fleet
and
insurance
costs.
Buyers
share
a
fixed
cost
is
smaller
because
they
maintain
their
own
fleet.
Parks
and
Rec
have
relatively
high
fixed
costs
due
to
the
subsidies
to
the
GCC
and
MRC,
and
they
too
have
high
fleet
costs.
Community
Services
is
high
due
to
the
South
Side
library,
subsidy
and
grant
edges
largely
for
seniors.
E
Moving
on
to
the
next
section
is
our
economic
updates.
You
know
we
committed
about
a
month
ago
to
giving
you
updates
on
the
markets
and
how
they
impact
our
current
size,
as
well
as
to
the
economic
data,
since
things
are
changing
so
rapidly,
things
change
day
to
day
based
on
the
public
health
emergency
and
the
stay
at
home
orders
that
we
are
in
the
restrictions
to
our
businesses.
E
So
this
slide
outlines
some
initial
unemployment
claims
for
the
Santa
Fe
County
statewide,
as
well
as
a
percentage
of
what
what
we
have
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
state
so
statewide,
the
weekly
high
during
the
Great
Recession,
was
just
over
three
thousand,
so
you
can
see
going
back
over
a
month
ago
that
the
initial
unemployment
claims
far
outpaced
what
we
were
seeing
during
that
last
recession,
santa
fe
is
six
week.
Total
is
about
10,500
and
the
statewide
six
week.
Total
is
just
over
115,000.
E
A
E
E
This
next
slide
shows
the
major
employers
in
the
Santa
Fe
metro
area.
This
was
taken
from
our
Cafer.
We
can
see
the
state
government
government
of
all
kinds,
full
state,
City
and
County
are
the
largest
drivers,
the
largest
sector
of
our
Santa
Fe
MSAA
employers,
and
next
comes
the
healthcare
industry
with
Christus
st.
E
This
next
slide
is
representative
of
the
u.s.
GDP
and
personal
income
and
consumer
spending.
These
stats
came
out
within
the
a
few
weeks
since
we
last
met
as
the
pandemic
has
forced
businesses
to
close
nationwide
and
halted
purchases
and
investments,
the
US
economy
shrank
by
4.8%
in
the
first
quarter
of
the
calendar
year.
This
is
the
sharpest
decline
since
the
financial
crisis
a
decade
ago.
E
The
second
slide
shows
that
consumer
spending
slid
seven
and
a
half
percent
in
March
and
The
Wall
Street
Journal
is
reporting
that
this
is
the
sharpest
decline
since
the
1950s
in
consumer
spending
hearst
on
the
personal
income
slide,
that
is
down
close
to
2%
in
March.
Some
news
from
the
Federal
Reserve
as
well.
E
This
is
the
same
economic
data
locally
that
you
have
seen
previously,
showing
data
for
the
month
of
March.
We
will
be
working
with
the
airport
and
with
Randy
you
to
update
this
data
as
it
becomes
available.
We
did
see
in
the
month
of
April
a
sharp
decline
to
under
a
hundred
people
in
plaining
and
deplaning
of
the
santa
fe
airport,
again
drastic
numbers
that
are
completely
unprecedented
as
we
are
seeing
the
effects
of
the
global
public
health
crisis
as
we
move
forward
here
this
again,
you
have
seen
this
before.
E
This
was
the
slide
that
I
was
referring
to
earlier,
that
shows
retail
trade
driving
the
largest
portion
of
our
total
gross
receipts
and
hospitality
and
food
services
again.
What
I?
In
a
previous
meeting,
as
as
you
are
driving
around
Santa
Fe,
that
you
keep
this
slide
in
mind
by
understanding
which
portions
of
our
economy
are
shut
down,
you
will
then
be
able
to
understand
how
our
economy
is
contracting
and
how
our
total
gross
receipts
will
shrink,
largely
driven
by
the
closures
and
retail
trade,
the
closures
and
the
hospitality
and
food
services.
E
So
some
important
questions
as
we
are
moving
forward
into
FY,
21
and
tracking
our
city's
revenue
base.
If
we
take
this
particular
slide
and
keep
this
in
mind,
how
quickly
do
our
Santa
Fe
retailers
start
to
open
up?
What
capacity
will
they
open
up?
What
will
Santa
fans
do?
Will
they
dine
in
and
have
an
experience
out
of
their
dining
experience,
or
will
they
opt
for
delivery
and
takeout,
as
we
have
seen
folks
switch
to
in
the
last
month?
E
E
This
shows
lower
risk
activities
like
outdoor
activities
or
retail
at
a
lower
capacity.
That
might
be
the
first
to
bounce
back.
Once
we
come
out
of
the
shelter
in
place
once
things
start
to
open
up
again
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
we
can
see
higher
risk
activities
like
festivals
and
large
gatherings
and
conferences.
A
E
Chair,
yes,
that
is
correct.
This
was
actually
presented
in
the
governor's
presentation
when
she
started
to
talk
about
reducing
the
restrictions
statewide
again,
this
is
a
risk
assessment
for
the
public
health
emergency.
That
shows
you
know
the
higher
risk
where
there
are
larger
groups
that
are
in
closer
proximity
versus
some
of
the
activities
that
can
be
controlled
because
it's
outdoors,
you
can
spread
out
or
you
can
start
to
reduce
the
capacity
such
as
retailers,
which
we've
seen
some
of
the
first
movers
to
reopen
their
economy
like
Georgia
they're.
A
E
F
E
Or,
even
as
a
city
to
guide
how
we
come
out
of
the
restrictive
stay
at
home
phase,
then
yes,
we
can
see
that
the
larger,
more
high
contact,
intensity
or
larger
number
of
contacts,
but
trade,
shows
or
festivals
or
concerts
or
spectator
sports
would
be
one
of
the
last
things
that
we
start
to
come
out
of.
So
important
questions
are
when
right.
When
does
this
happen?
Is
it
when
we
have
a
vaccination?
A
And
and
as
and
I
think
you
mentioned
it
a
few
minutes
ago,
even
as
thing
things
open
up,
not
only
do
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
the
public's
willingness
to
participate,
but
also
like
in
the
case
of
restaurants.
Will
restaurants
only
be
allowed
to
serve
out
50%,
50%
capacity
or
25
for
the
first
month
or
two?
So
just
because
things
open
up
does
necessarily
mean
that
the
GRT
is
gonna
skyrocket.
Now,
because
people
can
go
eat
because
people
might
not
be
able
like
I
said,
restaurants
may
only
be
able
to
serve
so
many
people.
H
A
H
So
one
other
thing
I
just
want
to
point
out
and
and
Mary
in
your
list
of
questions
about
how
fast
will
restaurants
and
retailers
open?
What
capacity
will
Santa
fans
go
out?
I
think
the
other
question
is:
will
people
travel,
maybe
not
by
airplane
but
by
car
from
our
surrounding
states,
and
that's
not
really
reflected
in
this
chart
directly,
but
that's
another
factor
that
we
don't
really
know
whether
people,
even
if
we
don't
have
the
festivals
people
will
come
here
because
we
have
the
outdoors
and
they
see
it
as
a
low
risk
activity.
E
Mr.
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
a
great
point,
and
so
I
want
to
move
on
to
this
next
slide
for
planning
and
discussion
purposes.
We
have
started
to
look
at
not
not
just
the
previous
slide
and
the
risks
that
are
associated
with
opening
up
different
types
of
activity
and
the
economic
activity,
but
also
these
important
factors.
You
know
the
duration
of
how
long
this
last
any
type
of
mobility
restrictions
are
we
going
to
see
continued
stay
at
home
order
when
will
that
be
lifted?
E
I
think
important
is
how
our
GDP
continues
to
decline
and
how
that
impacts.
Our
unemployment
numbers,
because,
as
we
are
seeing
in
the
city
as
our
revenue
is
cut,
is
our
revenue
decreases.
We
are
going
to
have
to
make
decisions
about
how
we
are
spending
our
revenue.
Similarly,
our
households,
whether
income
is
cut,
we
will
start
to
make
decisions
about
how
frequently
they
are
spending
on
these
on
discretionary
items.
E
We
are
going
to
continue
to
face
containment
and
mitigation
costs
with
the
public
health
emergency
ahead
of
us,
especially
if
we
see
a
second
way
if,
as
folks
start
to
come
out
of
a
containment
of
a
stay
at
home
order,
how
seriously
they
continue
to
take
social
distancing
will
drive
whether
or
not
we
locally
see
a
second
wave
which
could
pressure
us
back
into
a
state
where
the
economy
is
closing
down.
Also,
a
big
factor
as
we're
moving
forward
into
our
FY
21
framework
is
with
the
mayor
alluded
to
earlier.
E
E
We
were
doing
research
for
our
credit
ratings
and
we
thought
it
was
very
helpful
to
start
to
buck
it
in
all
the
different
variables,
categorize
all
the
different
variables
as
we're
looking
forward
to
our
FY
21
revenue
scenarios,
which,
at
this
point,
have
a
high
level
of
uncertainty,
because
any
one
of
these
factors
could,
if
there
is
a
longer
duration
of
the
stay
at
home
order.
That
really
does
impact
our
ability
to
generate
revenue.
E
So
the
purpose
of
this
discussion
is
also
to
lead
us
to
the
fact
that
we
will
be
doing
regular
reviews
of
our
revenues
coming
into
the
city
and
our
expenditures.
This
is
a
time
like
no
other
when
no
historical
data
we'll
be
able
to
lend
insights
into
how
the
city
will
recover,
especially
in
the
short
term
ahead
of
a
vaccination,
especially
in
the
short
term.
E
So
moving
forward,
the
mayor
did
allude
to
the
fact
that
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors
has
put
out
surveys
and
is
now
collected
data
for
several
different
cities
and
the
actions
that
they
are
taking
to
help
balance
the
shortfall
it's
not
just
in
the
current
year,
but
in
the
year
to
come,
and
we
will
be
sharing
those
with
you
as
well.
That
was
a
request
from
last
week
and
it's
very
concise
presentation,
but
it's
has
a
lot
of
depth
to
it
as
well.
E
E
H
Do
you
have
and
then
one
of
the
question
mr.
chair
is
you
know,
assuming
that
we
do
get
help
from
the
state
and/or
the
feds,
I,
guess:
I,
don't
know
what
kind
of
thinking
are
we
putting
into
that
and
and
what
kind
of
monitoring
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
the
kinds
of
help
that
you
know,
help
and/or
restrictions
on
that
help
and
I
think
that's
gonna
be
important
for
understanding.
H
You
know,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
big
overarching
question
is:
will
we
get
anything,
but
then
you
know
if
we
do
get
things,
what
will
be
the
nature
of
that
funding
and
how
will
that
help
us,
and
you
know
what
things
will
we
need
to
be
factoring
in
in
terms
of
you
know
our
own
prior
relations
and
our
own
cutting
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
I?
Don't
know
how
you
do
that
because
I
think
it's
such
a
moving
target,
but
some
structure
analysis
probably
needs
to
be,
and
monitoring
of
you
know.
E
Mr.
chair
counselor,
or
where
we
are
actively
monitoring
at
this
point,
giris
descendants
back
then
there's
been
indication
that
there
will
be
any
media,
Act
federal
happen
for
a
stimulus
plan,
so
you
to
advocate.
We
encourage
the
learners
advocating
our
behalf
as
well,
so
any
data
that
we
provide
continue
to
promote
to
you
to
be
effective
in
your
advocacy,
please,
let
me
know
I
think
our
delegation
has
been
very
supportive
or
congressional
delegation
thus
far
has
been
very
supportive,
either
co-sponsoring
bills
or
actively
seeking
out
information
from
us.
H
Mr.
chair
and
Mary
I
I
mean
I
think
that
this
information
about,
like
the
the
kinds
of
revenue
shortfalls
that
we're
seeing
that's
gonna,
be
you
nuts
been
been
and
going
to
be
very
helpful
in
terms
of
making
our
case,
but
then
I
think
it's
also
gonna
be
important
for
us
to
say
what
kind
of
aid
we
need
you
know
do
we
need
it
to
be,
I
mean
they're.
E
A
E
K
Thank
You
mr.
chair
Mary
I
was
wondering
if
so
I
agree
with
my
colleague
about
knowing
trying
to
understand
and
know
the
dates
for
their
budget
hearings
in
July,
so
that
we
can
get
those
on
the
calendar,
especially
those
of
us
that
have
other
jobs.
That
would
be
helpful.
What
I
was
wondering
is
in
midday.
K
Next
week
we
had
budget
hearings
planned
and
I
know
we're
not
going
to
have
those,
but
can
you
let
us
know
as
soon
as
possible
or
the
chair
if
we're
gonna
have
any
special
like
working
sessions
so
that
we
can
keep
holding
those
slots
open
that
we
initially
were
going
to
use
for
budget
hearings.
It
would
be
helpful
for
me
just
so.
I
can
either
take
them
off
my
calendar
or
expect
that
we
have
possible
working
sessions
with
additional
information.
As
we
move
forward.
Do
you
have
a
plan
for
that?
Maybe
ahead
of
time.
E
K
Mr.
chair
counselor,
not
at
this
time,
okay,
so
the
other
question
they
had
is
because
we
keep
waiting
for
this
late
data
from
tax
and
Reb
the
GRT
numbers,
and
they
know
it's
I've
always
been
this
way.
I'm
just
curious.
K
E
Chair
counselor,
vo
damn-
that
is
a
great
question
that
was
one
of
the
first
phone
calls
that
we
made
with
our
contacts
with
our
colleagues
of
the
taxation
and
revenue
department.
The
tax
payers
pay
their
gross
receipts
tax
at
the
end
of
the
month,
and
then
it
does
take
the
taxation
or
revenue
department
a
few
weeks
to
be
able
to
process
that
and
then
to
be
able
to
report
accurately
out
and
distributes
disperse
those
payments.
So
these
are,
you
know,
deadlines
that
are
set
in
law
and,
unfortunately,
at
this
time
there's
nothing.
E
K
J
E
E
You
know
there
are
ideas
at
this
time,
given
the
extent
of
the
economic
downturn
and
the
impact
that
it's
had
in
our
community
and
the
rates
of
unemployment,
I
think
we
would
tread
very
carefully
when
we
look
to
increase
any
fees
or
fines
to
generate
additional
revenue.
Those
would
be
very
calculated
very
well-thought-out
measures
if
we
were
going
to
consider
raising
fees
or
fines
or
imposing
additional
fees
or
fines
that
we
don't
currently
collect.
E
I
think
there
are
several
options
for
us
to
maximize
the
revenue
that
we
are
currently
collecting,
whether
it
be
through
our
leases.
Our
team
has
done
a
great
job
in
coordination
with
economic
development
team
and
reviewing
all
of
the
leases
throughout
the
city
and
understanding
you
know
who
how
to
collect
on
unpaid
leases
lease
payments
for
some
of
our
facilities.
Also,
you
know
going
forward
I
think
it
is.
We
can
look
at
our
you
know,
utility
rates
as
well.
E
J
Okay
and
then
I'm
not
I,
know
I'm,
not
in
the
committee,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
an
idea
of
what
kind
of
flexibility
we
have
for
other
tax
measures
and
how
much
revenue
it
would
generate
per
percentage.
I
guess
if
we
decided
to
raise
something
by
an
eighth
or
a
quarter.
What
that
would
look
like
how
much
revenue
it
would
generate
and
then
also
if
we
can
put
sunset
clauses
on
on
things
so
that
this
is
just
a
way
to
get
us
back
on
our
feet
and
then
things
would
go
back
to
normal.
E
J
A
C
C
Yes,
sorry
I
had
to
I'd
change
locations,
don't
know
how
the
audio
is
over
here.
So
in
the
past,
I
know
that
you
have
worked
with
departments
to
have
them
identified.
Potential
savings
and
I
was
curious
when
that
work
is
going
to
be
done
within
the
departments
and
when
we
will
get
to
see
it
in
the
Finance
Committee.
E
Mr.
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
has
been
the
process
through
the
last
two
budget
cycles,
where
we
were
quest
savings
measures
in
addition
to
investment
proposals,
we
are
looking
at
an
FY.
You
know
starting
our
FY
21
budget
process
with
the
department
directors
this
week
and
taking
a
phased
approach
to
understand.
E
First
and
foremost,
as
we
had
first
started
the
presentation
discussing
what
are
the
legally
required
services,
what
are
the
services
that
we
know
as
a
city
we
have
to
provide
and
then
be
able
to
build
our
budget
up
from
there
to
understand
where
our
constituents,
what
services
our
constituents
prefer
over
others
is
I.
Think
a
key
component
of
this
will
be
our
public
engagement
piece
going
forward.
E
So
it
is
a
bit
of
a
different
approach
to
a
few
months
ago,
when
we
were
actively
seeking
investment
proposals
and
considering
some
of
the
savings
measures
in
each
of
the
departments
is,
if
we're
looking
at
entire
fiscal
year,
twenty
one
having
double-digit
percentage
reductions
in
our
revenue
sources,
specifically
into
the
general
fund.
It's
gonna
take
a
very
different
approach
than
a
few
savings
proposals.
E
A
And
Mary,
if
I
can
just
real,
quick,
councilman
Cosette
Sanchez
on
that
point,
the
budget
hearings
are
July
thirteenth
and
so
usually
what
happens
in
a
normal
year?
The
administration
puts
a
budget
together.
Brings
it
to
us.
We
call
department
by
department
at
the
hearings,
maybe
there's
little
things
we
tweak
or
don't
like
or
questions.
We
are
so
what
you
just
said.
That's
gonna
be
a
that's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
between
now
and
the
13th
and
I
think
one
of
your
challenges
is
gonna.
A
Be
how
what
how
do
you
keep
us
informed
as
to
what
process
you're
using
or
what
method
you
decided
to
to
follow,
and
we
I'd
like
for
real,
simple,
let's
say,
layoffs
versus
furloughs?
Well,
we
decided
to
do
furloughs
instead,
I
I
think
you
all
have
your
work
cut
out
for
you
because,
like
I
said,
look
July
13th
is
eight
weeks
away
and
we're
used
to
getting
the
budget
at
that
point.
A
E
Mr.
chair
I
think
that
is
not
an
option
this
time
around,
given
the
unprecedented
circumstances
that
we
find
ourselves
in.
We
plan
to
use
the
committee
process
to
continue
to
keep
the
council
informed
and
to
have
the
counselors
during
each
one
of
the
major
committees
way
on
their
respective
area,
so,
for
example,
for
Public
Works
and
public
utilities.
That
committee
will
be
reviewing
the
structure
and
the
policy
decisions
to
go
along
with
that
particular
policy
area
and
very
similarly,
with
the
Equality
of
life
committee.
C
You
councillor
bethe,
that
was
very
much
in
line
with
where
I
was
going
and
given
that
there
are
going
to
be
much
larger
changes,
and
you
know,
we've
had
these
discussions.
Just
came
off
with
the
furloughs
of
the
council
feeling
a
need
that,
as
we
are
making
these
really
large
challenging
decisions
that
how
are
we
going
to
have
the
opportunity
to
see
them
coming
as
opposed
to
then
getting
them
and
trying
to
make
sense
of
them
in
that
moment
and
understanding
the
process
of
how
we
got
there.
So
that's
thank
you
for
that
conversation.
C
I,
believe
I've
asked
us
before
so
I
do
apologize
regarding
public
utilities
and
knowing
that
we
have
allowed
people
to
stop
paying
their
water
bills,
and
we
will
continue
to
give
them
water.
Do
we
ever
get
to
the
point
where
public
utilities
no
longer
insolvent
at
what
you
know?
That
is
one
of
those
pieces
that
we
do
have
to
provide,
and
then
it
starts
moving
into
the
general
fund
and
and
that's
something
that
I've
been
curious
about
and
concerned
about.
So
I'd
love
to
hear
your
input.
E
Mr.
chair
councillor,
David
I,
know
Shannon
Jones,
director
Jones
and
his
team
are
on
a
weekly
basis,
monitoring
their
receivables
and
the
revenue
coming
in
for
each
of
the
different
utilities.
That
being
said,
they
do
have
pretty
stringent
reserve
levels
that
they
also
have
to
maintain,
given
that
they
are
public
utilities,
so
that
would
be
a
possibility
for
one
of
the
presentations
coming
through
the
committee
process,
similar
to
the
overview
that
we
did
for
our
budget
structure.
E
The
revenues
coming
in
what
are
some
of
our
commitments
are
cost
versus,
where
we
have
some
of
the
discretionary
spending
and
our
revenue
base.
So
I
would
really
encourage
these
conversations
to
continue
in
these
informational
presentations.
So
then
we
can
have
a
basis
for
what
those
requirements
are
for
public
utilities,
what
their
reserves
currently
sit
at
and
how
that
will
impact
their
operations.
If
we
continue
to
see
months
of
deferred
utility
payments.
C
Thank
you
and
I
suppose
the
last
thing,
I
have
to
say
is
really
more
of
a
the
comment,
as
opposed
to
a
question
and
thinking
about
a
long
term
of
this,
and
how
how
much
we
don't
know
you
did
mention
earlier
that
we
probably
should
be
preparing
to
have
a
second
wave
that
may
very
likely
push
us
back
into
some
type
of
social
distancing,
quarantine.
Shutting
everything
down
the
other
thing
that
I
start
to
worry
about
is
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
talk
about.
C
Okay,
once
we
get
a
vaccine
Tina
SH
months,
the
fastest
of
vaccine
I
believe
has
gone
to
market
has
been
for
years
and
I
know
that
the
medical
and
science
community
are
really
throwing
all
their
eggs
at
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that's
something
that
we're
really
thinking
about
that.
You
talked
about
the
economic
recovery
being
able
to
happen
as
we
get
through
the
pandemic,
but
you
know
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
some
of
those
worst-case
scenarios
how
long
this
could
last
and
hopefully
it
doesn't.
C
F
A
E
Chair
or
not
at
this
time
again,
we
can.
We
look
forward
to
continue
these
presentations
as
we
move
forward.
If
there's
any
particular
subject,
areas
which
you
would
like
to
be
briefed
on,
we
can
convene
outside
experts
or
internal
city
staff
to
present,
as
we've
done
on
our
budget
structure
or
financial
structure
going
forward.
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
such
a
key,
critical
component
to
being
able
to
make
the
decisions
that
will
reverberate
throughout
our
community
as
we
face
the
FY
21
budget
process
in
the
next
few
weeks.
A
K
Be
Array
out
mr.
chair
I
just
wanted
to
express
some
concern
on
a
survey
that
went
out
that
we
weren't
aware
of
that.
It
shows
that
it
came
from
you,
mr.
chair.
It's
a
kovat
and
its
potential
impacts
on
city
to
city
services
and
I
wanted
to
just
express
that
I
thought
it
shouldn't
have
come
from.
You
I
think
it
makes
more
sense
if
it
came
from
like
city
manager
or
maybe
the
entire
governing
body.
K
As
long
as
we
get
to
bet
those
questions
and
I,
don't
know
where
it's
at
now,
but
the
survey
seems
to
be
closed
and
it
said
it
was
only
sent
out
to
us
a
select
group
of
a
thousand.
So
can
you
talk
to
us
more
about
that
and
why
we
weren't
told
about
that
and
if
it's
still
going
on
or
what
was
the
intention
and
what
the
questions
were
sure.
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
kind
of
like
when
you
do
your
own
Pauline.
When
you
run
for
office,
I
just
wanted
to
do
my
own
thing.
It
was
to
SurveyMonkey
that's
for
free
and
I,
and
then
it
actually
was
an
idea
that
came
through
some
meetings.
I
have
with
residents
in
my
district
and
so
I
didn't
I.
It
was
for
my
own
information,
okay,.
K
A
My
intent
is
that
hopefully,
the
rest
of
the
governing
body
would
see
that
there
is
interest,
and
maybe
we
should
be
doing
something
like
this
as
a
city
as
a
whole,
but
I
wasn't
going
to
wait
for
the
city
to
do
it.
If
my
constituents
are
saying
we
want
to
have
input
and
here's
an
idea
and
I'm
not
using
city
resources,
to
do
it
and
something
on
Survey
Monkey
me
and
a
few
residents
got
together
and
we
did
it.
Okay,.
A
A
K
A
Yeah,
it
was
real
general
and
some
of
the
feedback
I
got
too
was.
It
was
really
helpful
because
it
was
like
well,
we
didn't
realize
the
city
had
all
these
departments,
because
I
just
listed
all
the
city
departments,
it
was
real,
general
and,
and
so
it
actually
I'm
forwarded
to
christine,
because
of
if
we
consider
doing
this
as
a
city
as
a
whole,
there
was
good
feedback
about
well.
Some
of
the
questions
weren't
very
helpful
at
all.
F
A
A
E
A
Okay,
anything
else
from
our
participants
that
are
still
with
us.
Let's
see
I,
don't
think
I
think
the
mayor's
gone
and
councillor
Garcia
did
you
have
anything
before
we
conclude?
No
thank
you.
Mr.
chair,
just
big
shout
out
to
miss
McCoy
and
her
team
for
such
a
thorough
presentation.
I
appreciate
it.
Okay,
then,
with
that
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you.