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B
C
Mr
chair,
I
believe
carolyn
has
not
joined
us
yet
so
I
will
be
taking
role
this
evening.
Vermont
chairman
rahman
tiger
abetha.
B
C
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Approval
of
the
agenda.
I
would
like
to
postpone
item
d,
which
is
an
ordinance
relating
to
the
city
of
santa
fe,
uniform
traffic
ordinance.
The
reason
being
is
that
quality
of
life
has
postponed
it
for
more
information
and
just
out
of
respect
for
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
the
work
they're
doing.
B
E
No
other
changes,
mr
chair.
Okay,
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended
mr
chair.
F
What
did
staff
want
to
do
about
the
meeting
schedule,
corrections
for
item
e.
C
G
Yes,
I,
the
finance
committee
meetings,
are
gonna
stay
the
same
as
proposed
originally
like
before
the
meeting
started.
The
only
correction
that
was
made
was
to
show
the
governing
body
meeting
in
march
and
june
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
month,
so
nothing
changed
as
far
as
the
proposal
for
the
finance
committee
meetings
and
I
did
verify
that
with
the
clerk's
office.
So
we're
not
in
conflict
with
public
works
at
all.
F
Sorry
carolyn,
what
did
should
I
I
mean
I
have
more
to
ask
about
that.
But
should
I
just
pull
it
for
conversation,
then
I
I
don't
quite
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
don't
want
to
hold
up
our
okay.
Yes,
then,
let's
pull
it
for
a
conversation
thanks.
B
B
Yes,
okay,
next
is
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
items
to
be
pulled
off
the
consent
agenda.
B
G
D
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
presentations
the
first
being
an
early
childhood
investment
opportunities
for
santa
fe.
We
have
mr
james
jimenez
executive,
director
of
new
mexico
voices
for
children,
jacob
b
hill
research
and
policy
analyst
new
mexico
voices
for
children,
kate,
noble
vice
president
for
policy
and
stakeholder
engagement,
growing
up
new
mexico
and
rebecca
baron
reese
director
for
policy
research
and
communications
for
growing
up
new
mexico.
B
B
The
finance
committee
will
ultimately,
I
think,
make
a
recommendation
to
the
governing
body
regarding
arpa
funds,
but
as
far
as
child
care,
specifically,
I
know
we
are
going
to
rely
heavily
on
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
a
lot
of
the
the
discussions
and
details
will
be
vetted
through
that
committee.
B
But
I
do
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
at
least
start
giving
us
guidance
as
a
finance
committee,
and
so
thank
you
to
both
the
new
mexico
voices
for
children
and
growing
up
new
mexico
for
joining
us
today
and
making
this
presentation
to
us.
H
Okay
and
so
who's
gonna
start
start
us
off.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
council
members.
I'll
get
us
started
today
again.
My
name
is
jacob
vigil
and,
as
you
said
in
the
introduction,
I'm
a
research
and
policy
analyst
at
new
mexico
voices
for
children
and
we're
a
nonpartisan
nonprofit
that
focuses
on
research-based
public
policy
to
improve
the
well-being
of
new
mexico,
kids
and
families,
and
we
do
that
through
the
areas
of
health
care,
education
and
economic
security.
I
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee.
It's
great
to
be
with
you.
My
name
is
kate
nope,
as
the
chair
mentioned,
I'm
the
vice
president
for
stakeholder
for
policy
and
stakeholder
engagement
with
growing
up
new
mexico
and
rebecca
baran
reese
is
my
colleague
who
is
here
as
well
from
growing
up
new
mexico,
a
few
words
about
growing
up
new
mexico.
I
We
have
been
focused
as
an
organization
for
about
16
years
on
early
childhood,
particularly
in
santa
fe,
formerly
known
as
united
way
of
santa
fe
county.
We
rebranded
just
about
a
year
ago
and
those
16
years
of
focus
on
early
childhood
began
when
our
president
and
ceo
catherine
freeman
took
the
helm
of
the
united
way
of
santa
fe
county,
it
was
a
little
more
traditional
united
way
before
that,
and
also
just
to
say,
I've.
I
I've
been
in
this
job
about
three
and
a
half
years
rebecca,
and
I
had
the
great
honor
and
opportunity
of
working
together
starting
about
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
when
we
worked
on
the
statewide
needs
assessment
and
then
three-year
strategic
plan
for
the
early
childhood
education
and
care
department.
I
I
I
So
moving
on
just
to
tee
up
a
little
bit,
we'll
start
getting
specific
about
santa
fe
and
the
data
here
and
just
to
say
in
particular,
as
you'll,
see
on
the
sort
of
bottom
left
of
the
slide
santa
fe
family
survey
highlights.
We
recently
did
a
survey
of
people
who
were
accessing
child
care
for
birth
to
five
years
old
in
santa
fe.
Santa
fe's
picture
can
be
somewhat
complex
because
we
have
such
a
large
in-commuter
population.
In
other
words,
our
workforce
population
is
more
significant
than
our
resident
population.
I
We
grow
during
the
day
because
people
have
jobs
here,
so
that
was
the
lens
we
took
for
the
family
survey
and
one
that
we've
taken
really
just
a
sort
of
a
workforce
lens
to
a
lot
of
the
data,
though
we
did
look
at
the
data
for
santa
fe
county,
which
is
the
most
often
updated
and
granular
that
you
can
get
through
the
american
community
survey
and
other
census
type
level
data.
So
we've
looked
at
sort
of
both
of
those
lenses
and
rebecca
is
going
to
talk
us
through
some
of
what
we've
seen.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
chair.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
we
have
a
total
santa
fe
child
care
capacity,
totaling
nearly
2
700
slots,
though
you'll
see
that
and
that
is
serving
all
school-aged
children,
though
you'll
see
that
our
population
under
five
years
of
age,
is
over
six
thousand
children.
So
we
have
a
big
need
for
an
additional
focus,
particularly
on
the
population
under
two
and
over
here
on
the
right.
J
Are
they
paying
out
of
pocket?
Do
they
need
financial
support?
What
priorities
do
they
have?
What
kind
of
setting
are
they
looking
for,
and
what
we
heard
is
that
57
percent
of
families
need
more
or
a
lot
more
child
care.
Nearly
40
percent
can't
afford,
or
not
close
to
being
able
to
afford
child
care
and
almost
70
percent
prioritize
a
caregiver
having
a
degree
or
certificate
in
early
childhood.
J
H
Yeah,
thank
you
rebecca.
It's
no
secret.
It's
been
really
well
documented
over
the
last
year
that
the
the
pandemic
has
really
created
a
crisis
situation
for
child
care
in
in
our
nation,
in
our
in
our
state.
We
know
that
many
businesses
have
closed.
Many
providers
have
left
the
profession
and
here
in
santa
fe,
many
mid-sized
facilities
have
closed
in
just
recent
months.
H
So
this
is
something
that's
still
happening
in
real
time,
but
I
want
to
also
emphasize
that
you
know
some
of
these
issues
have
actually
been
chronic
features
of
of
the
industry
for
years
prior
to
the
pandemic,
so
issues
such
as
ford,
affordability
and
the
chronic
underpayment
of
the
workforce
have
only
been
exacerbated
so,
but
that
has
also
been
coupled
with
the
increased
professionalization
of
the
field
right.
H
So,
as
as
rebecca
pointed
out
in
the
survey,
many
families
expect
their
providers
to
have
certain
levels
of
credentialing
and
education,
but
unfortunately,
wages
have
not
kept
up
with
that
increase
in
professionalization,
and
so
we
know
that
the
poverty
rate
for
early
educators
in
new
mexico
is
hovers
above
27
percent-
that's
twice
as
high
as
for
workers
in
general.
So
it's
it!
It's
really
a
tough
situation
for
providers
and
and
results
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
turnover,
a
lot
of
people
leaving
the
profession
and
the
impact
that
that
has
had.
H
I
mean
partly
just
just
a
snapshot
of
it.
But
you
know
women
have
left
the
workforce
since
the
pandemic
in
in
disproportionate
numbers,
so
there
were
roughly
1.2
million
fewer
parents
of
school-aged
children
in
the
workforce
by
the
fall
of
2020
and
900.
000
of
those
parents
were
women,
so
the
crisis
in
child
care
has
really
had
an
impact
that
has
reverberated
in
the
economy
and
just
created
a
struggle
for
parents
and
families.
H
H
So
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
you
just
want
to
recap,
and-
and
you
know
I've
been
before
this
committee
before
and
we
presented
some
of
this
information,
but
the
importance
of
why
child
care
is
just
is
is
critical
not
just
for
our
economy,
but
for
the
future
of
our
kids
for
the
development
and
growth
of
our
kids.
H
We
know
that
80
percent
of
the
brain
develops
in
the
first
three
years
and
because
of
that,
because
that's
such
a
ripe
and
critical
period
in
the
development
of
cognitive,
social,
emotional,
physical
development
of
children,
the
return
on
investment
is
huge,
so
economists
have
found
a
13
return
on
investment
for
early
care
and
education,
so
those
are
costs
or
those
are
benefits
that
accrue
to
the
economy
later
in
life,
in
the
form
of
higher
graduation
rates,
lower
incarceration
rates,
higher
incomes
earned
over
over
the
lifespan,
lower
health
care
costs,
and
things
like
that.
H
We
know
that
child
care
for
single
mothers
who
are
pursuing
higher
education
has
a
5.5
return
on
percent
return
on
investment
and
increases
graduation
rates
by
21
right.
So
this
is
it's
a
very
concrete
benefit
for
for
women,
you
know
advancing
their
careers,
advancing
their
education
and
which
bolsters
our
economy,
and
so
you
know
it's.
No.
It's
well
documented
that
having
child
care
assistance
having
access
to
the
supports
that
that
provides
leads
to
higher
employment
rates
and
job
retention.
So
that's
just
you
know,
backing
up
to
take
a
look
at.
H
Why
is
this
important?
Why
is
this
sort
of
critical
for
any
economy
and
and
just
sort
of
highlights
the
urgency
of
addressing
the
crisis
in
whatever
ways
that
we
can.
I
And
that
leads
us
to
the
opportunity
before
us-
and
this
slide
is
really
the
big-
why
the
city
might
consider
opportunities
for
early
childhood
investments
and
how
a
city
can
get
ahead
with
something
like
this,
and
really
that's
what
it's
about.
It's
about,
closing
the
achievement
gap
and
setting
the
foundation
for
economic
success,
because
there
is
and
will
be
an
increasingly
competitive
environment
for
early
childhood
professionals
and,
as
we
have
thought
about
this
and
really
run
through
some
of
the
possibilities
of
how
this
can
work.
I
It
really
does
seem
like
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
make
some
headway
and
create
the
conditions
to
attract,
retain,
develop
and
really
secure
the
workforce
that
that
is
increasingly
competitive.
Early
childhood
professionals
are,
of
course,
the
workforce
behind
the
workforce.
I
We've
seen
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
evidence
about
retention
for
businesses
and
absenteeism,
so
there
there's
really
an
opportunity
in
terms
of
what's
possible
here
and
that's
what's
possible
is
made
possible
by
what's
supported
so
as
jacob
was
talking
about
women
in
the
workforce,
particularly
working
families,
people
who
are
raising
children
and
businesses
all
depend
on
early
childhood
workers
being
available
and
communities
with
workforce
supports,
like
child
care,
better,
retain
and
attract
a
qualified
workforce.
I
We
see
that
home-based
care
is
an
opportunity
for
scaling
and
developing
entrepreneurs,
as
parents
and
families,
and
really
have
been
looking
at
how
this
whole
ecosystem
can
work
together
and
how
one-time
money
can
make
a
difference
and
we'll
be
getting
into
some
of
the
details
later.
But
as
jacob
touched
upon.
A
lot
of
the
evidence
is
that
there's
an
incredibly
high
return
on
investment
for
investments
in
early
childhood
and
rebecca's
been
researching
a
little
bit
of
what
has
gone
on
in
san
antonio.
J
Yeah,
so
san
antonio
more
recently
has
been
held
up
as
an
example,
as
back
in
2012
mayor
julian
castro
bet
on
four-year-olds
to
transform
san
antonio
and
grow
the
economy
and
did
so
through
investing
in
the
scaling
up
of
universal
pre-k
for
four-year-olds.
J
The
city
made
the
case
that
this
pre-k
for
san
antonio
was
also
a
workforce
development
program
with
a
long-term
payoff,
so
with
investments
in
professional
development
across
the
city
and
higher
competitive
salaries.
Pre-K
for
san
antonio
is
now
recruiting
teachers
from
across
the
country,
not
just
from
within
san
antonio
or
within
texas,
but
from
elsewhere.
J
Most
recently,
through
the
publishing
of
an
impartial
cost-benefit
analysis
by
westat,
which
has
found
that
conservative
estimates
have
shown
nearly
a
four
thousand
per
child
return
for
each
pre-k
student
as
well
as
nearly
4
million
sorry
7.4
million
overall
across
all
the
investments
made
annually
so
they're
seeing
ripple
effects
from
this
program.
Now
over
the
course
of
these
last
seven
years.
I
So
the
early
childhood
steering
committee
is
a
group
that
formed
close
to
nine
years
ago
to
really
align
resources
around
early
childhood
in
santa
fe.
So
it's
been
going
a
long
long
time
and
as
part
of
the
statewide
needs
assessment
and
strategic
plan,
as
well
as
some
other
work
that
we've
done
at
growing
up
new
mexico
we've
gotten
to
look
at
a
lot
of
early
childhood
coalitions
throughout
the
state
and
santa
fe's
is
really
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
in
part,
because
it
has
robust
engagement
from
our
hospital
from
christus
st
vincent.
I
We
have
folks
there
looking
to
connect
health
systems
to
early
childhood.
We
also
have
through
pms
head
start
providers,
private
providers,
the
community
college,
the
public
schools,
the
community
foundation,
as
well
as
the
city
and
county
of
santa
fe,
and
we
appreciate
that
councillor
cassette
has
attended
some
of
the
recent
meetings
of
the
early
childhood
steering
committee.
I
Most
recently,
it's
been
more
like
monthly
and
again
coordinating
sharing
ideas
and
knowledge
and
really
working
to
get
innovative
about
what
could
happen
in
santa
fe
and
ultimately,
this
is
really
important
context
and
foundation
for
what
we
see
as
as
how
things
could
go
forward,
because
santa
fe
has
the
benefit
of
already
having
a
pretty
broad
and
robust
group
to
talk
things
through
about
how
an
innovation
project
a
lab,
if
you
will
throughout
the
city
of
santa
fe,
could
be
coordinated.
I
It
is
up
to
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
each
year
for
two
years
that
this
rfp
is
available.
They
put
out
in
the
rfp.
I
believe
that
they're
about
18
existing
coalitions
that
there's
good
awareness
of
throughout
the
state
of
new
mexico
and
that
they
believe
they
can
fund
21
of
these
opportunities.
So,
there's
a
there's
a
pretty
good
chance
that
the
early
childhood
steering
committee
will
have
some
decent
funding
to
do
this
alignment
and
coordination.
J
So
I'm
I'm
now
here
to
warn
us
all
that
these
are
draft
ideas
and
we
present
them
as
sort
of
potential
opportunities
examples
of
investments
and
are
eager
to
hear
your
questions
and
input
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
presentation,
and
these
recommendations
have
been
developed
primarily
through
santa
fe's,
early
childhood
steering
committee
and
with
growing
up
new
mexico,
as
kate
described
and
most
recently,
with
jacob
with
new
mexico
voices
who's
a
long
time
partner
of
growing
up
new
mexico
and
he's
brought
a
lot
of
wonderful
insight
and
collaboration
to
this
presentation
and
jacob
will
walk
us
through
the
parameters
for
these
as
well.
J
By
the
way,
I'm
sorry
that
I
can't
seem
to
undo
the
screen
my
video
feed,
so
I
apologize
that
I'm
appearing
to
be
off
camera.
H
Thank
you,
rebecca
yeah,
just
a
few
things
that
we've
sort
of
set
forth
as
parameters
or
things
to
think
about,
as
we
think
about
opportunities
to
invest
and,
and
just
like
just
what
makes
for
really
effective
early
childhood
policy.
So
investing
really
and
having
a
focus
on
the
earliest
years
is
critical.
H
I
mean
this
is
just
something
that
we
it's
just
a
huge
focus
of
of
both
our
organizations
and
and
increasingly
you
know,
the
the
research
and
and
the
direction
of
the
field
has
has
really
put
just
more
focus
on
those
earliest
years
and
in
terms
of
where
the
investments
are
most
effective.
H
I
think
a
lot
of
you
might
know,
and
as
kate
and
rebecca
mentioned,
the
state
has
is
going
to
have
considerable
one-time
funds
from
from
covet
relief,
cobit
relief
packages
and
what
they've
been
able
to
do
to
bolster
the
field
and
to
bolster
the
workforce
is,
is
pretty
great,
and
so
that's
just
a
way
to
think
about
the
use
of
one-time
funds
in
order
to
to
strengthen
a
workforce
that
or
to
strengthen
an
industry
and
the
workforce.
H
That's
going
to
really
pay
dividends
in
the
long
run
and
then
just
thinking
about.
Where
are
those
points
where
the
city
can
strengthen
early
childhood
and
make
that
difference,
whether
it's
you
know
removing
barriers
or
sort
of
filling
in
gaps
or
thinking
creatively
in
ways
that
are
just
more
attuned
to
and
the
local
context.
H
So
those
are
just
some
parameters
that
we've
set
out
to
think
about
the
the
recommendations
that
rebecca
and
cater
are
going
to
now
talk
about.
I
Oh
we'll
go
ahead
and
again
these
are
draft
for
discussion,
only
warning
their
draft
ideas
only
and
just
some
examples
really
to
get
things
going
and
and
the
early
childhood
steering
committee.
I
should
also
thank
ms
mccoy
who's
attended
recently,
as
have
some
other
city
staff,
including
kira
ochoa
and
julie
sanchez,
rich
brown
and
janice
krisch.
So
we've
had
some
some
great
conversations
with
some
folks
from
the
city
of
santa
fe.
I
One
idea
is
sort
of
an
early
childhood
work
study
program
where
in
essence,
there
would
be-
and
all
of
these
really
look
at
braiding
funding.
So
it
would
not
just
be
one
source
of
funding.
It
would
be
funding
brought
together
from
a
number
of
different
sources
and,
ideally
to
include
the
main
source
of
funding
for
early
childhood,
which
is
the
subsidy
that
is
provided
through
the
state
from
the
federal
government,
often
known
as
ccdbg
child
care.
Development
block
grant
funding.
I
But
one
idea
is
a
work
study
program
where,
in
essence,
we
could
do
something
like
full-time
pay
for
people
to
be
really
working
full-time
but
half-time
in
school
and
half-time.
In
an
internship
getting
experience
in
the
early
childhood
profession-
and
you
can
see
on
that
right
column,
we
have
thought
about
some
potential
outcomes
and
metrics
for
success
here.
Certainly,
we
could
measure
the
number
of
people
who
get
a
credentialing
degree
through
something
like
that:
the
number
of
workforce
hours
that
are
mobilized
and
the
number
of
children
receiving
high
quality
care.
I
Another
example
is
providing
incentives
for
degrees
and
credentials,
and,
and
we've
talked
about
how
some
of
these
programs
could
even
be
stacked
on
top
of
each
other.
I
think
that
would
be
our
preference.
This
is
a
particularly
a
profession
that
has
been
just
starved
for
a
long
long
time.
We
often
talk
about
teachers
and
poor
pay
in
the
education
profession,
and
the
fact
is
early
childhood
is
at
the
neglected
end
of
that
spectrum.
I
This
is
really
a
lot
of
folks
have
done
a
lot
of
great
work
to
work
to
professionalize
and
increase
funding,
but
this
is
turning
the
biggest
of
super
tankers
in
terms
of
making
up
for
the
starvation
of
the
system
for
many
many
years
so
again,
incentivizing
degrees
and
credentials.
I
The
idea
being
payments
at
milestones
for
achievement
of
and
service,
we
think
about.
Maybe
you
know
if
you
get
halfway
to
a
degree,
there's
a
five
thousand
dollar
incentive.
I
If
you
get
all
the
way
to
agree,
there's
a
ten
thousand
dollar
payout
and
then
maybe
there's
a
ten
thousand
dollar
forgivable
loan
after
a
period
of
service
in
santa
fe.
So
again,
the
metrics
are
there
on
the
right
hand,
column.
I
Another
idea
we
had
was
basically
incentivizing
what
we
call
sort
of
the
baseline
competence,
which
is
the
45
hour
certificate
in
early
childhood.
Just
a
straight.
You
know.
If
there's
a
three
thousand
dollar
pick
your
number
incentive
for
getting
the
early
childhood
certificate,
which
is
really
what's
required
to
work
in
a
child
care
setting
and
the
point
of
that,
as
is
noted
in
the
right
hand,
column,
there
is
the
number
of
people
really
we
would
want
to
grow.
I
The
pipeline
of
talent
would
be
the
big
measure
that
would
be
a
way
to
get
people
in
because
recruitment
to
this
profession
and
getting
people
to
decide
that
they
want
to
be
in
early
childhood
is
not
necessarily
an
easy
task
right
now.
So
providing
an
incentive
and
and
then
you
will
have
people
who
just
fall
in
love,
because
what
we
know
about
this
profession
is
it's
really
a
a
heart-led
profession?
It's
because
people
love,
kids
and
really
care
about
being
there
to
help
them
develop.
I
We
also
and-
and
these
are
sort
of
in
some
of
the
buckets
that
in
conversation
with
city
staff,
we
talked
about
workforce
regulatory
and
business
development
on
the
regulatory
improvements
just
to
touch
on
that,
because
it's
very
specific
stuff-
and
in
our
experience
it
would
be
best
done
with
some
deep
listening
and
community
engagement
to
understand
the
barriers
that
people
are
experiencing
in
the
field
and
then
really
it
could
be
an
easy
one-time
cost
of
excuse.
I
The
phone,
a
professional
analysis
for
what
regulatory
barriers
are
in
place
and
need
to
be
removed,
because
that's
really
a
lot
of
detailed
work.
That
needs
to
involve
probably
both
the
community
and
expertise
in
particularly
fire
and
land
use
in
city
departments,
and
we
would
anticipate
that
that
could
help
increase
child
care
capacity,
because
that's
really
what
it's
all
about
sort
of
shrinking
that
gap
that
we
saw
in
one
of
the
early
slides
with
you
know.
The
number
of
there's
roughly
a
thousand
kids
per
age
in
santa
fe
is
one
way
to
think
about
it.
I
And
we
have
more
like
a
hundred
slots
available,
so
to
shrink
that
that
gap
and
rebecca
is
going
to
take
the
next
piece.
Yeah.
J
So,
as
kate
mentioned,
the
three
kind
of
categories
of
recommendations
we've
built
here
were
workforce
regulatory
improvements
and
then
business
development.
And
so
what
you
see
here
are
some
examples
of
business.
Development
supports
the
first
one
has
to
do
with
building
cohorts
with
incentives
for
achieving
key
milestones,
and
this
is
something
that
we've
seen
happen
in
other
in
other
parts
of
new
mexico
and
has
been
growing
as
the
need
for
home-based
care
providers,
in
particular,
has
become
more
of
a
focus
both
nationally
and
in
our
state,
as
well.
J
So
these
collaborative
functions,
for
example,
would
help
to
again
increase
stability
as
well
as
build
a
infrastructure
for
child
care
business
which
we
don't
really
currently
have
here
in
santa
fe,
but
would
provide
somewhat
of
a
platform
for
that
and
then
lastly,
you
know
we
know,
there's
a
a
need
for
capital
improvements.
J
So
we
we
really
do
see
santa
fe
as
being
a
potential
leader
or
innovator
in
this
space,
alongside
some
of
the
really
thoughtful
partners
that
we've
been
working
with,
including
the
early
childhood
steering
committee,
of
course,
as
well
as
new
mexico
voices
to
bring
that
broad
community
support
and
alignment
and
jacob
do
you
have
any
thoughts,
you'd
like
to
add
at
this
point.
H
Sure,
yeah,
you
know,
as
rebecca
said
I
mean
that's.
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
movement
has
has
been
happening,
sort
of
on
the
state
level,
and-
and
you
know
those
are,
you
know
in
most
cases,
pretty
unprecedented.
H
You
know
investments
in
early
childhood
things
that
we've
long
advocated
for,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
way
in
which
smaller
local
governments
have
the
opportunity
to
be
innovation,
labs
for
for
addressing
issues
and
gaps,
that
you
know
that
the
state
might
not
be
able
to
to
cover
right
and
that
that,
having
that
engagement
of
stakeholders
who
are
who
are
really
familiar
with
the
community
and
and
getting
having
that
input
could
really
you
know,
make.
H
Sort
of
lead
to
policies
and
innovations
that
could
be
scaled
up
and
that
you
know
other
jurisdictions
could
look
at
and
see.
Okay.
This
worked
really
well
in
santa
fe.
This
is
something
that
could
be
effective
in
other
areas.
So
I
think
that's
that's
an
exciting
part
of
sort
of
how
we've
been
thinking
about
this
and
as
well.
I
I
I
believe
that
are
really
looking
at
transforming
child's
care
and
and
going
big
thinking,
really
how
this
can
be
the
moment,
because
in
emerging
from
a
pandemic,
with
the
recovery
funding,
we
have
an
opportunity,
partly
because
during
the
pandemic
we
got
real
clear
on
how
important
child
care
is
for
workers
and
for
for
working
families,
and
this
opportunity,
this
sort
of
political
moment,
if
you
will,
is
really
ripe
at
the
local
and
state
and
national
level
and
santa
fe
in
a
way,
is
perfect,
because
we
are
a
community
that
really
needs
to
be
proactive
about
retaining
our
working
families
and
setting
the
stage
to
that
economic
success
that
child
care
can
provide
a
foundation
for
and
again
the
sort
of
competitiveness
of
communities.
I
The
being
able
to
be
an
economic
winner
as
things
reshape
post
pandemic,
particularly
in
a
place
with
a
high
cost
of
living
and
struggling
to
attract
and
retain
working
families,
so
just
want
to
also
say
we
can
move
to
the
last
slide.
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
growing
up
new
mexico
and
new
mexico.
Voices
for
children
are
organizations
that
are
resources
to
you.
We
live
and
breathe
this
stuff
and
we're
very
happy
to
help
with
questions
gathering
information
and
whatever
the
folks
of
the
city
of
santa
fe
need
as
we
go
forward
on
this
path.
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
just
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
and
the
information
that
you've
been
providing
for
us
and
good
to
see
familiar
faces
in
different
contexts.
F
Just
happy
that
you
all
are
committed
to
this
work.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done.
I
appreciate
the
recommendations
too.
I
had
a
couple
questions
just
to
understand
some
things
like
what
we've
done
in
the
past
or
what
we've
been
involved
with
for
the
city,
I'm
just
curious
what
how
this
connects
back
to
opportunity,
santa
fe,
the
program
that
initially
was
taking
a
piece
of
early
childhood
development
into
that
into
their
goals
and
then
how?
F
I
guess
I'm
unclear,
because
we
have
not
gotten
any
updates
on
how
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
actually
still
involved
with
opportunity,
santa
fe,
at
least
in
my
world.
I
haven't,
I
don't
think,
we've
gotten
any
updates.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
that.
First,
I
don't
know
who
could
answer
that
piece.
I
I
can
start
with
the
current
situation
opportunity
santa
fe
was
very
recently
and
for
a
decent
amount
of
time.
The
agent
upon
which
the
early
childhood
steering
committee
rested
with
new
staff
and
new
plans
at
the
santa
fe
community
foundation
that
has
pivoted
and
rebecca
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
they
are
still
in
the
process
of
strategic
planning
and
have
focused
more
on
the
middle
school
age.
I
J
That's
yeah,
that's
about
as
much
as
I
know,
and
yes,
as
kate
mentioned,
they
still
participate.
They
also
continue
to
host
the
the
eoif,
which
is
a
I
want
to
say,
emerging
opportunities
for
young
families,
grant
which
focuses
on
young
parents
in
santa
fe,
who
are
also
part
of
a
cohort,
and
I'm
sure
rachel
kutcher
would
be
very
happy
to
provide
any
update
on
their
work.
F
F
Okay,
that
makes
sense,
and
let's
see
the
other
piece-
I
guess
when
I
think
about
the
problems
with
our
how
we're
supporting
providers.
F
I
I
just
look
to
this.
The
state
and
the
regulatory
side
that's
been
so
broken.
Olay
has
spot
up.
You
know
and
really
worked
hard
on
this
piece
at
the
state
level
and
I'm
not
sure
like
what
gains
have
been
made.
F
I'm
just
curious
to
me:
that's
like
the
bigger
piece
of
the
puzzle
here
before,
even
like
local
government,
like
there's
a
system
that
doesn't
function
at
the
state
level,
so
I'm
just
wondering
does
that
have
to
happen
first
before
you
feel
like
at
the
city
level
we
can
we
can
make.
You
know
we
can
tackle
some
of
these
recommendations
because
from
my
understanding,
it's
like
the
accreditation
and
the
what
they
put
providers
through
and
the
formula
that
pays
for
a
portion
of
their
of
their
work.
F
I
So
I
can
start,
and
then
I
think
it's
probably
worth
giving
jacob
or
or
it's
worth
recognizing,
that
james
jimenez
is
also
here
now
that
the
presentations
I
can
see
who
of
course,
leads
new
mexico
voices
for
children
and
knows
a
lot
about.
K
I
This,
but
just
you
know
a
brief
history
of
recent
times.
Some
of
the
big
changes
are
that
we
did.
We
were
the
fifth
state-
or
sometimes
they
say
fourth
in
the
nation-
to
create
a
an
early
childhood
department,
it's
one
of
the
more
comprehensive
departments
because
it
brings
in
early
intervention
and
home
visiting,
as
well
as
pre-k
and
child
care,
and
really
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
now,
as
we
mentioned,
collect
to
connect
to
maternal
and
child
health.
I
I
But
fundamentally,
a
big
thing
that
also
happened
at
that
time
is.
We
got
new
rates
for
the
child
care
subsidy
and
those
child
care
subsidy
rates,
we're
the
first
state
in
the
nation
to
base
our
rates
on
what
they
call
an
alternative
methodology,
which
is
in
essence.
What
is
the
cost
of
quality
care?
I
They
have
always
been
set
on
what
they
call
a
market
rate
study
before
which
is
in
essence,
what
does
care
cost
or
what
can
people
afford
to
pay
or
what
that
sort
of
thing
it's
what
people
can
afford,
what
the
market
can
afford,
not
what
quality
care
costs
so,
as
the
first
state
in
the
nation,
washington
dc,
did
it
before,
but
we
they're,
of
course,
not
a
state.
I
so
with
the
department
that
does
bring
a
lot
of
these
pieces
together
and
with
the
new
rates
we've
seen
a
lot
of
foundational
shifting
and
we've
talked
about
this
opportunity
that
is
coming
with
the
land-grant
permanent
fund
to
really
have
the
constitutional
amendment
that
would
provide
an
additional
distribution
of
funding
from
our
land
grant
permanent
fund
that
will
be
on
the
ballot
in
november
2022,
as
if
we
get
our
system
built
to
a
good,
strong
point
that
that
funding
can
come
in
and
support.
Some
of
these
structural
changes
that
are
actually
moving
fairly
quickly.
I
Right
now
and
again,
the
pandemic
has
kind
of
accelerated
the
urgency
and
a
lot
of
large-scale
thinking
about
how
these
systems
can
change.
So
the
the
moment
that
we
see
is
pretty
ripe
and
james
or
jacob
just
want
to
see
what
I'm
missing.
I
know
you
probably
have
other
perspectives
to
fill
in.
H
It
is
hard
to
overstate
how
how
significant
those
recent
changes
are,
and
at
voices
we,
we
long
advocated
and
brought
attention
to
the
the
issue
of
the
cliff
effect
in
in
child
care
and
how
that
the
sort
of
the
drop
off
and
benefits
as
with
rising
income
was
really
yeah
really
hampering
access,
and
you
know
I
think
it
and
it
also
just
sort
of
has
been
a
long,
a
long
journey
and-
and
maybe
james
can
speak
more
to
this,
but
also
just
sort
of
shaping
the
narrative
around
the
effectiveness
of
child
care.
H
On
the
state
level
I
mean
you
know,
we
have
really
tried
to
try
to.
You
know,
influence
that
narrative
and
show
show
how
you
know:
it's
not
just
it's
not
just
effective
for
for
child
early
childhood
development,
but
it
and
it's
not
just
a
workforce,
something
to
bolster
the
workforce.
But
it's
a
it's
a
it's
part
of
a
comprehensive
sort
of
suite
of
policies
that
that
now
are,
you
know
mostly
housed
under
the
new
department,
which
is
which
has
been
great.
H
But
you
know
that,
and
so
you
know
the
the
lfc,
as
as
many
of
us
know
has
has
been.
You
know,
we've
kind
of
we've
kind
of
tried
to
to
influence
the
the
narrative.
That's
come
out
of
there
and
it
hasn't
always
been
sort
of
like
what
we
would
sort
of
what
we
would
want
to
how
we
would
want
policy
to
be
shaped
or
the
messaging
that
comes
out
around
child
care.
H
We
know
to
be
a
really
effective
and
really
critical
piece
of
early
childhood
of
policy.
So
I
think
that's
that's
just
another
thing
to
to
bring
to
mind
you
know
james.
Would
you
add
anything
to
that.
K
Good
evening
everybody
I'm
james
humanist,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
new
mexico
releases
for
children.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
us
to
present
with
kate
and
rebecca,
I
think,
kate
and
jacob
really
covered
it.
The
only
piece
that
I
would
add
is
that
some
of
you
will
remember
that
several
years
ago
the
legislative
finance
committee
did
a
report
on
child
care
that
was
highly
critical
of
the
educational
outcomes
of
the
child
care
system,
which
we
thought
was
kind
of
an
unfair
metric.
K
K
What
is
the
one
in
terms
of
the
educational
outcomes?
What
is
it
that
we
want
in
terms
of
affordability?
What
is
it
that
we
want
for
the
workforce?
What
is
it
that
we
want
to
help
build
the
economy
around
the
state
and
particularly
in
santa
fe?
So
I
think
that
it's
kind
of
a
long-winded
answer
counselor
to
your
question,
but
I
I
do
believe
that
the
what
kate
laid
out
was
such
a
hugely
important
shift.
K
F
Thank
you
all
for
those
details
and
actually
that
covered
some
of
my
other
questions.
I
was
curious
about
the
land
grant
permanent
fund
and
when
we
get
to
vote
on
it
until
then,
I
guess
my
final
question
is
what
given
that
that's
not
going
to
be
voted
on
until
then
till
next
year,
and
then
the
implementation
will
probably
take
another.
F
I
don't
know
I'm
guessing
six
months,
maybe
more,
I
don't
know.
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
had
to
pick
something
that
the
city
could
do
fairly
quickly,
given
some
of
our
constraints
or
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
arpa
funds
and
what
would
be
obviously
we're
going
to
get
feedback
from
the
community.
F
But
I
guess
I'm
curious
what
you
all
think
what
would
be
low-hanging
fruit
in
your
mind
that
we
could
use
for
arpa,
and
I
I
appreciate
your
recommendations,
I'm
just
thinking
like
some
of
those
things
are
going
to
take
time
about,
like
structural
changes
and
mindset,
changes
and
kind
of
redirecting
our
priorities.
But
I
guess
I'm
curious
about
what
you
think
would
be
low-hanging
fruit
for
arpa.
I
I
can
jump
in
obviously
not
afraid
of
that.
Ultimately,
you
know.
We've
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
and,
and
you
know
the
question
that
is
still,
we
think
the
right
question
is
about
how
can
the
city
of
santa
fe
get
ahead,
because
this
and
and
be
ahead
of
the
game
in
addressing
these
issues
and
taking
advantage
of
the
return
on
investment
and
in
particular
supporting
working
families
in
in
a
strong
way?
I
And
ultimately
you
know,
I
think
the
answer
is
to
to
pay
people
to
get
their
degrees
and
credentials
if
we
provided
a
fast
and
nimble
incentive
to
support
the
workforce
and
to
pay
people
to
get
their
credentials.
This
is
a
workforce
that
has
always
figured
that
it
out
before.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
mothers
in
the
early
childhood
workforce
and
they
have
balanced
everything.
I
So
you
know,
I
think
we
honestly
can
almost
overthink
what
we
need
to
do,
whereas
if
we
just
put
some
some
stakes
out
there,
you
know,
if
you
get
halfway
to
your
associate's
degree,
here's
a
five
thousand
dollar
carrot
for
you.
If
you
get
all
the
way
to
your
associate's
degree
use
ten
thousand
dollars.
If
you
stay
in
santa
fe
and
work
for
three
five
years
whatever
it
is,
then
you
have
your
fifteen
thousand
dollar
loan
forgiven
type
of
thing.
I
If,
if
we
invest
in
the
workforce-
and
you
know,
put
carrots
out
there
to
these
women
who
have
always
figured
out
how
to
balance
all
the
things,
we
really
suspect
that
you
could
get
some
quick
returns
and
some
loyalty
in
this
community.
J
Yeah,
I
guess
I
would
also
just
add
that
the
partnership
we
have
with
the
santa
fe
community
college
and
being
a
leader
and
a
thought
partner
and
how
to
move
nimbly
and
quickly
as
kate
mentioned,
should
also
not
be
overstated.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
appetite
and
and
alignment
to
move
fast
on
these
kinds
of
recommendations
and
innovations.
J
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
the
other
one
I
was
thinking
about.
I
guess
I
see
it
more
as
like
a
backbone
for
the
nonprofit
sector
or
maybe
helping
to
devise
what
it
would
look
like,
but
that
shared
service
services
hub
all
those
things
that
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
back
office
support
non-profits
need
that
too,
but
I
I
mean
I
can
see
that
this
would
be
something
that
early
childhood
childhood
businesses
would
also
benefit
from.
So
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
F
I
appreciate
all
the
information
and
and
details
yeah,
it's
a
little
overwhelming
thinking
about
the
needs
and
what
we
need
to
do
and
all
the
other
pieces
that
we
need
to
support,
including
affordable
housing.
F
So
I
appreciate
all
of
you
and
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversation.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and,
and
thank
you
all
again
for
being
here.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
well
I'll
beat
my
drum
a
little
bit
again
on
on
this
topic.
As
obviously
it's
been
one
that
I've
been
delving
into
and
councilwoman
vitoria
you
bring
up.
You
know
such
a
valuable
point
about
all
these
other
economic
needs,
and
the
one
thing
that
I
can
never
do
is
unwind
the
the
intrinsic
nature
of
child
care
to
meeting
those
economic
needs
in
the
city,
and
you
know
I
obviously
I
live
this
every
day.
L
You
know
I'm
a
single
mom
with
a
three-year-old,
and
so
it's
of
course
something
that
I
can
really
tangibly
hold,
that
understanding
of
the
economic
impact
and
what
are
the
lost
economic
opportunities
for
young
women
who
have
to
leave
the
workforce
or
young
parents,
because
men
men
do
too
just
not
as
large
of
numbers
but
for
these
young
families
that
a
parent
is
leaving
the
workforce
because
of
the
lack
of
child
care.
So
to
the
point
of
of
what
I
believe,
kate
was
saying,
or
maybe
rebecca
that
seeing
the.
L
You
know
the
pandemic
has
really
exacerbated
this
issue
as
many
others,
but
really
seeing
the
kind
of
this
moment
of
opportunity
where
there
are
funding
sources
that
are
coming
through
from
you
know,
feds
from
the
states
there's
a
lot
of
non-profits,
there's
a
lot
of
actors
in
this
field
that
are
really
ready
to
pounce
on
this,
because
it
has
become
such
an
issue
and
because
it
really
is
impacting
so
many
other
industries
in
our
community,
as
people
are
not
able
to
hire
that
that
this
is
a
unique
moment
in
time,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
do
really
want
to
thank
chairman
of
beta,
as
well
as
carol
romero
worth
for
sharing
the
quality
of
life
and
bringing
these
presentations
here
and
having
these
discussions,
because
I'm
I'm
very
glad
that
we
are.
L
We
are
discussing
this
right
now,
because
this
this
is
a
moment
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
miss.
I
did
have
a
couple
questions.
You
know,
as
I've
been
digging
into
this
and
as
I've
been
having
meetings
with
a
number
of
people,
what
I'm
really
seeing
is
it's
a
huge
crux
of
the
issue
in
santa
fe.
L
Is
again
back
to
that
workforce
understanding,
and
I
know
in
some
of
the
early
childhood
steering
committee
meetings,
we've
had
this
discussion
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
a
bit
more
of
an
answer
here
of
really
figuring
out.
How
do
we
quantify
the
need
of
the
workforce
and
back
to
that
point
of
how
does
santa
fe
get
ahead
in
really
building
that
workforce,
because
if
we
are
very
honest,
as
with
everything
else
that
we
do,
we
we're
competing
with
the
rest
of
the
region
in
terms
of
of
the
workforce?
L
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
do
not
live
in
the
city,
as
kate
had
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
and
can
you
in
and
so
understanding
what
that
hole?
Is
that
that
we
need
to
fill
in
and
do
we
have
a
little
bit
more
of
an
idea
of
one?
How
do
we?
I
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
math
around
this
and
you
know
we
truly
come
to
the
number
that
if
you
had
a
hundred
more
workers
in
santa
fe,
it
would
make
a
big
difference
in
child
care.
Some
of
that
is,
you
know
just
back
of
the
envelope
calculations
again,
if
you
are
roughly-
and
this
is
more
population
level,
not
the
entire
workforce-
that
that
might
need
a
child
care,
but
about
a
thousand
kids
and
then
we
took
about
half
of
those
being
in
child
care,
and
this
is
again
zero
to
age
five.
I
Ultimately,
you
know,
I
think
we,
as
we've
wrestled
with
this
question,
have
really
come
to
the
conclusion
that
you
know
50
to
100
people
would
make
a
giant
difference
in
santa
fe's,
early
childhood
workforce
and
that
we
could.
You
know,
slice
numbers
in
a
number
of
different
ways
and
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
If,
if
that
was
something
that
the
council's
committee
was
interested
in,
I
think
we
would
say
you
know
we
can
keep
quantifying
it.
We
know
the
need
is
great.
I
We
know
that
you
know
in
the
number
of
dozens
the
impact
could
be
great
and
to
really
answer.
Your
question
is
thought
about
how
we
might
really
quantify
this,
because
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
saw
in
our
survey
is
that
demand
is
shifting,
and
so,
if
there
were
robust
child
care
options,
we
might
actually
see
demand
increase
than
if
we
took
the
moment
in
time
snapshot.
I
Even
if
we
had
perfect
information
from
the
families
out
there,
we
might
see
more
families
deciding
to
more
parents,
even
grandparents,
deciding
to
enter
the
workforce
or
take
on
part-time
work
if
there
was
really
robust
child
care
out
there.
So
demand
is
shifting
we
could,
as
and
to
answer
your
question,
because
we
really
thought
about
how
this
might
work,
there's
probably
no
way
than
robust
survey
polling
to
really
get
a
sense
and
representative
sampling
of
the
santa
fe
need
out
there
and
and
again
you
know,
we
had
rebecca
may
remember
the
number.
I
We
had
pretty
good
responses
for
that
santa
fe
survey
that
we
did
again.
Our
lens
was
that
you
have
responsibility
for
a
child
birth
through
five.
That
needs
best
care
in
santa
fe,
so
you
know
we.
We
could
think
about
ways
to
to
look
at
that
more
and
might
say
you
know
the
bias
should
be
to
action
because
it
is
a
way
to
get
ahead,
but
the
need
we
know
is
great.
L
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
that's.
It's
been
my
understanding
as
I've
been
speaking
with
everybody,
and
even
just
you
know
my
own
child
care
center.
I
feel
like
every
other
week.
They
send
another
email
saying
we
are.
We
are
looking
for
a
new
teacher
again,
and
so
that
kind
of
brings
me
to
my
one
of
my
other
questions
regarding
san
antonio
and
some
of
the
work
that
they
did.
We
know
that
retention
in
the
field
is
hard
because
it's
it's
tough
work.
L
It
doesn't
pay
very
well
and
that's
something
that
we've
you
know
been,
and
I
believe
that
the
state
has
also
been
talking
about
and
with
the
increase
in
the
the
quality
care
that,
hopefully
that
will
increase
some
rates
for
child
care
providers,
but
has
san
antonio
had
better
luck
in
really
creating
a
more
stable
workforce
and
with
the
understanding
that
that,
honestly,
the
the
nature
of
child
care
is
that
there
is
almost
an
expected
turnover
in
the
sense
that
it
is
something
that
a
lot
of
young
parents
do,
because
they
already
have
to
do
it
themselves.
L
So
they
may
as
well
get
some
money
at
the
same
time.
But
there
are
individuals
that
really
go
into
you,
know,
being
professional
child
care
providers
and
and
has
san
antonio
in
some
of
the
work
they've
done
hit
on
a
model
that
maybe
prevents
some
of
that
turnover
and
some
of
that
loss
in
that
field,
especially
as
we're
looking
at
some
of
these
front-end
investments
in
building
that
pipeline.
How
do
we,
how
do
we,
you
know,
start
to
maintain
a
bit
more
of
a
pipeline
and
not
constantly
be
in
this
emergency
mode?.
J
But
what
I
will
say
is
that,
from
what
I've
read,
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
they've
done
that
seems
to
have
made
a
critical
difference
in
their
recruitment,
which
I
believe
would
be
very
meaningful
in
terms
of
how
many,
how
often
you're
retaining
your
workforce
is
just
paying
a
high
and
competitive
salary.
J
So,
while
I
see
and
some
somewhat
to
councilwoman
via
real
question
of
like
sort
of
where
can
the
city
play
along
with
some
of
the
state
investments,
I
see
the
san
antonio
example
is
interesting,
because
the
state
of
texas
also
has
some
similar
investments.
Obviously,
when
this
program
started,
it
was
before
the
pandemic.
It
was
a
different
federal
funding
landscape.
J
However,
the
state
was
were
making
investments
and
the
city
chose
to
augment
in
very
strategic
ways,
and
so
what
san
antonio
did
was
to
say
we're
going
to
go
all
in
on
professional
development
and
it's
going
to
be
across
the
city
and
we're
going
to
pay
people
more
than
what
let's
say.
The
state
going
rate
was
that
was
at
the
time,
and
so
what
you
saw
was
an
opportunity
that
early
educators
from
across
the
country
then
responded
to
quickly
and
what
I
believe
to
be
true.
J
J
Right,
they
went
above
what,
let's
say,
the
going
rate
was
for
for
early
educators.
K
J
And
again,
investing
in
the
professional
development
quite
heavily.
L
Sense
that
if
you
know
when
people
are
going
and
getting
degrees-
and
there
is
this
professional
piece
that
it
it
brings
investment
into
the
field,
so.
J
Yeah
and
sort
of
how
do
you
capture
some
of
that
professional
development
investment
and
try
to
localize
that
really
strongly
with
the
partners
that
we
have
in
place
in
santa
fe,
obviously
including
the
community
college?
You
know
where
the
city
can
then
start
to
think
about
what
sets
santa
fe
apart
from
other
regions
that
are
perhaps
looking
more
to
the
the
state
trends,
as
opposed
to
then
adding
a
local
strategy
on
top.
L
I
I
I
think
we
certainly
do
know
that
there
are
lots
of
people
who
come
in
and
want
their
child
nearby
in
part
just
because,
if
there's
an
emergency,
if
there's
a
fall
on
the
playground,
you
name
it.
You
know
they
don't
want
to
be
an
hour
away
from
their
kid.
But
we
don't
have
absolute
numbers
on
that.
Okay,.
L
Okay,
thank
you
yeah.
That
was,
I
thought,
was
kind
of
an
interesting
piece
that
I
hadn't
thought
about
with
this.
Yet
you
know
I
think,
we've
covered
quite
a
bit
here.
L
I
am
one
of
the
the
models
that
I
know
has
been
discussed
that
I'm
really
interested
in
is
that
basically
almost
like
a
work
work
study
program,
because
the
need
to
get
people
into
the
classroom
immediately
is
is
so
incredibly
crucial
while
at
the
same
time
looking
at
those
longer
term
investments-
and
so
I
find
a
model
like
that
very
fascinating
and
I'd
really
be
curious
to
see
where
it
potentially
has
been
done
successfully
in
other
areas
or
other
cities
other
localities.
L
If
we
have
a
model
for
that
to
look
to
you
know
as
we're
kind
of
analyzing
what
some
opportunities
we
have,
but
I
think
that
does
depending
on
how
quickly
something
like
that
could
be
stood
up
in
collaboration
with
our
partner,
something
that
I'm
really
interested
in.
Because
again,
the
need
is,
is
here
right
now,
and
you
know
we
had
dr
white
talk
about
that.
L
The
child
care
industry
is
recovering
at
a
slower
rate
than
some
of
our
other
key
industries
in
the
city,
so
really
seeing
how
we
can
immediately
hit
into
that
pipeline.
L
I
think,
is
something
very
important
for
us
to
look
at
and
again
how
we
might
build
on
something
that
later
we
might
be
able
to
utilize
state
dollars
to
pull
into
a
system
that
we've
already
set
up
and
and
understanding
that
that
opportunity
is
there,
and
so
I
think,
better
understanding
what
some
of
the
opportunities
might
be
from
the
state
is
something
that
I'm
really
interested
in
and
hearing
what
that's
going
to
be.
Looking
like
at
some
point,
what
they're
looking
to
fund
what
some
of
those
ideas
are
moving
forward.
L
I
do
know
it
has
to
go
through
the
ballot
still,
but
but
yeah.
How
do
we
really
layer
those
dollars?
How
do
we
leverage
the
dollars
and
how
do
we
leverage
the
programming,
and
how
do
we
set
up
a
system
that
then
we
can
take
advantage
of
state
and
federal
dollars
coming
through?
L
Because
again,
this
is
a
moment
not
just
here
but
state
wide
and
nationwide,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
city
that
we
have
positioned
ourselves
in
a
place
that
we
can
really
take
that
money
make
sure
that
we're
not
leaving
anything
on
the
table
to
to
best
serve
our
community.
So
thank
you
all
again
so
much
for
being
here.
I
really
I
greatly
appreciate
all
your
work
and
time
and
attention
here.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
will
be
really
brief.
I
just
want
to
thank
our
presenters
for
coming
for
providing
the
information
about
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
I
think,
as
kate
probably
said,
something
like
24
7,
something
like
that.
You
guys
are
out
there
thinking
and
and
working
on
this
issue.
M
I
also
would
just
point
to
if
you
haven't
listened
to
a
podcast,
the
daily,
the
new
york
times
on
the
12th
did
something
about
what's
happening
at
the
federal
level
and
some
of
the
potential
there
and
as
we
you
know,
start
these
conversations
and
look
at
how
best
the
city
can
play
a
role
in
solving
this
enormous
problem.
M
I
just
want
to
make
everybody
aware
that
there's
some
federal
legislation
as
well-
and
you
know
it's
it's
it's
pending,
so
I
don't
know
what
its
chances
are,
but
certainly
it's
an
indication
of
just
how
big
this
problem
is
and
how
many
people
are
really
looking
and
getting
serious
about
what
we
can
do
at
all
levels
of
government
so
anyway,
thank
you,
everyone,
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
B
One
of
my
frustrations
sometimes
is
that
as
a
city,
we
want
to
get
involved
in
a
certain
initiative
or
area,
and
we
try
to
reinvent
the
will,
but,
as
your
presentation
pointed
out,
there's
already
a
lot
of
organizations
that
are
working
on
this
and
kind
of
creating
this
focus
for
us.
So
again,
I
appreciate
you
all
for
coming
and
making
this
presentation,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
discuss
this
and
ultimately
implementing
some
of
these
ideas.
L
Mr
chair,
before
our
guests
leave,
can
I
just
make
a
request
that
we
get
the
presentation
emailed
to
the
committee.
B
Yes,
and
I
yes,
I
think
I
didn't
kate,
you
already
sent
us
an
email
right.
C
C
I
B
B
The
first
is
item
b,
which
is
a
resolution
establishing
city
of
santa
fe
legislative
priorities
for
consideration
by
the
new
mexico
state
legislature
during
the
55th
legislature
and
councilwoman
veril
pulled
this
off,
and
I
see
that
chairman
rivera
from
public
works
is
with
us
also
councilwoman
via
rael.
F
I
guess
I
I
was
just
assuming
we
were
gonna
talk
about
this
and
trying
to
figure
out
which
legislative
priorities
would
be
listed
because
at
at
our
council
meeting
it
didn't
seem
like
there
was
like
10
potentials
right,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
and
understand
the
our
timeline
for
this
and
when
we're
going
to
actually
start
narrowing
it
down,
I'm
assuming
we
were
using
it
in
committee
or
committee
time
to
to
try
to
narrow
that
down.
B
Okay,
miss
willard.
I
think
we
are.
This
is
the
time
to
narrow
it
down.
Am
I
right
or
are
we
gonna
have
more
time?
I
know
the
public
works
committee
came
up
with
what
they
were
able
to
come
up
with
eight
priorities
and
when
you
compare
those
eight
priorities
with
the
memo
in
the
packet,
six
of
them
are,
are
the
same.
So
there's
we're
only
off
by
a
little
bit.
Was
it
your
intent
to
have
the
finance
committee
try
to
come
out
with
a
recommendation
for
five
this
evening
or
what
is
the
timeline?
B
That's
a
good
question
that
councilwoman
vrael
has.
N
Thank
you
so
much
chairman
and
counselor
via
real
for
the
question
of
this
item
is
scheduled
to
be
a
governing
body
on
october
27th,
and
it
was
the
goal
to
have
the
top
five
capital
requests
identified
by
then
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
if
there's
more
deliberation
needed,
we
did
have
quite
a
bit
of
deliberation
in
public
works,
and
so
that
is
the
work
to
be
done
in
the
committee
is
to
sort
of
get
there,
but
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
N
B
Okay
and
yeah
what
we
did
at
public
works,
which
was
pretty
good,
is
we
just
started
with
each
member
giving
their
top
five
and
then
the
chair
took
the
common
ones
of
the
top
five
and
kind
of
said
okay.
Well,
we
have
three
or
four
that
are
common,
so
that
would
make
up
four
and
then,
if
we
were
able
to
compromise
on
others,
we
did
and
then
and
ultimately
we
weren't
but
and
that's
why
we
came
up
with
eight
but
again,
even
there
there
was.
B
There
was
three
or
four
that
were
common,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
each
committee
member
wants
to
give
their
five,
we
can
do
that
and
see
how
many
we
have
in
common
and
then
and
then
go
from
there.
Councilman
romero
worth
you
have
your
hand
up
and
then,
but
before
we
we
go
to
councilman
v
royale
did
you
have
other
questions
or
comments.
F
Yeah,
I
did
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
guess
I'm
what
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
give
you
my
top
five,
unless
I
understood
other
funding
sources
that
we
could
direct
for
some
of
these
that
we
all
know
all
of
these
are
important.
So
it's
not
saying
one
is
better
than
the
other.
One
is
more
important.
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
narrow
it
down
in
the
way
that
we
can
rely
on
other
funding.
F
Sources
such
as
you
know,
a
grt
bond,
the
infrastructure,
federal
funds,
potentially
arpa,
and
then
what
was
another
a
fourth
one
g-o-g-o.
F
It's
just
that
after
that
presentation
and
the
amount
of
money
that
we
still
need
to
like
push
to
get
through.
Sometimes
I'm
just
not
quite
sure
if
we're
gonna
get
that
if
it's
realistic
to
ask
for
more
funding
just
like
last
year,
we
were
told
to
hold
off
so
I'd
like
to
hear
about
that
too,
and
then
so
maybe
start
there.
I
have
some
other
questions
about
the
language.
F
In
the
resolution
there
were
some
things
taken
off
that
I
think
are
still
relevant
that
I
think,
even
though
it's
a
short
session
that
we
need
to
potentially
state
as
one
as
our
kind
of
values,
areas
that
we've
been
grappling
with
for
the
city,
and
I
have
some
in
mind,
but
I
I
guess
maybe
I'll
start
with
this
piece.
First.
N
Thank
you
so
much
chairman
councillor
villarreal.
Actually,
this
top
10
that
we
proposed
did
include
some
consideration
on
on
our
part
about
those
other
funding
sources
and
what
was
a
good
fit
for
them.
N
So,
for
instance,
excuse
me
the
fixed
route
vehicle
replacement,
the
transit
buses.
We
have
a
bunch
of
them
coming
due
at
the
same
time
and
so
we're
gonna.
We've
been
trying
for
the
last
two
budget
years
to
try
to
take
bites
out
of
it,
but
we've
been
completely
unsuccessful.
So
we
sort
of
have
like
this
10
million
dollar
liability
looming
that
we're
trying
to
fund,
but
we
think
that's
probably
a
really
good
one
for
the
federal
infrastructure
money
right
because
it's
transit,
so
that
seems
like
a
really
good
fit
with
that.
N
So
we
probably
wouldn't
recommend
that
broadband
same
thing.
We
we've
heard
that
digital
infrastructure
is
going
to
be
in
that
in
the
federal
bill.
The
other
thing
that
you
don't
see
in
this
list
is
seniors
improvements,
because,
of
course,
director
rinaldi
takes
care
of
that
separately
through
the
special
senior
funding
and
he's
very
effective
that
way.
So
you
don't
see
that
there,
one
of
the
things
that
you
see
on
this
list
is
particularly
targeted
for
geo
bond
money,
and
that
is
the
library.
N
This
is
design
money
that
we're
asking
for,
so
that
we
could
actually
get
in
there
and
really
find
out
like
what
does
the
21st
century
library
have
in
it.
You
know:
are
we
going
to
remodel
fulguson?
Does
that
work?
How
much
does
it
cost
and
then,
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
geo
next
year
we
could
be?
We
could
actually
have
a
package
that
we
could
present
to
the
voters,
and
so
we
thought
that
might
be
good
to
package
that
up
and
get
ready
for
that
to
clarify
about
the
airport.
N
Actually,
this
request
is
requesting
that
the
legislature
give
us
some
funds
that
will
replace
the
city
funds
that
we
just
allocated
to
that
contract.
So
we
had
to
put
in
12
million
of
our
own
money.
I
think
getting
five.
You
know
if
we
start
thinking
about
these
big
projects,
and
maybe
the
legislature
helps
us
with
75
of
the
cost
and
we
pay
for
25.
N
The
teen
center
is
going
to
shake
out
about
that
way.
Maybe
that's
a
good
way
to
think
about
the
airport,
so
we're
looking
for
you
know
five
or
six
million
back
to
so
that
we
can
use
our
own
money
for
other
needs
inside
the
city.
So
that's
what
this
is.
This
is
not
an
additional
this
is
to
and
we
actually
have
sent
out
some
feelers
to
our
delegation
about
their
receptivity
to
that
idea,
and
they
feel
much
better
about
funding
us
now
that
we
will
have
a
contract.
N
I
can
guarantee
you
those
contractors
there
they're
going
to
build
that
airport
in
360
days,
they're
going
to
be
out
there
with
bulldozers
within
30
days,
so
they'll
they'll
definitely
be
some
action
to
see,
which
I
think
will
be
really
helpful.
What
else
can
I
tell
you,
the
south
capital
area,
road
reconstruction?
N
That's
probably
not
a
great
legislative
request,
although
it
is
right
next
to
the
legislature
right
so
they
drive
on
it,
but
it
is
a
neighborhood
thing
where
they
like
to
be
more
regionally
impactful
with
their
contributions
so
that
one's
kind
of
on
the
fence,
but
we
also
think
they'll,
probably
be
road
money
from
the
federal
dollars.
We'll
also
certainly
be
looking
for
a
big
chunk
of
road
money
from
the
grt
bond.
Probably
between
five
and
10
million
will
be
for
roads.
N
The
geo
bond
probably
won't
be
about.
You
know
just
road
rehabilitation
repairs,
but
might
be
about
new
road
projects
that
are
a
little
bit
more
sort
of
important
to
community
members,
and
so
I
think,
that's
that
I
think
that
answers
some
of
the
questions
you
asked
me
were
there.
Others.
C
Maybe
director
mccoy
has
more
to
add
yeah.
I
think
a
good
way
when
I
was
being
introduced
to
geo
bonds
versus
grt
bonds.
A
good
rule
of
thumb
is
especially
since
we
have
to
take
the
geo
bond
to
the
public,
for
a
vote
is,
are
any
of
these
projects,
something
that
our
constituents
would
vote
on
right
would
vote
to
approve
so
potential
for
public
safety
projects
potentially
for
we've
talked
about
affordable
housing
in
the
past,
with
a
general
obligation
bond,
potentially
community
centers,
potentially
road
projects,
those
types
of
things.
C
What
would
benefit
our
constituents
because
they
would
have
to
be
voting
for
those
bonds
in
an
election.
F
N
B
Well,
I
would
just
add,
though,
fire
station
two
was
a
priority
and
it
was
designed
and
we
were
ready
to
go
and
then
it
got
so
then
to
put
it
off
another
year,
gio
bond.
Okay,
maybe,
but
there
was
a
commitment
that
was
made
because
of
the
annexation
agreement.
We
got
up,
we
designed
it.
We
were
ready
to
start
construction
and
then
they
got
so
I
don't
that.
B
C
I
C
And
counselors,
I
think
it
is
also
important
to
understand
the
stacking
of
funding
like
director.
Wheeler
was
talking
about
with
the
teen
center.
It's
really
good.
It's
turning
out
to
be
about
25
from
the
city,
city's
funding
sources
and
75
that
was
funded
by
the
legislative
capital,
la
process
and
so
again
whether
it
is.
It
is
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
the
city,
whether
it's
a
geo
bond
or
a
grt
bond,
could
put
in
some
some
funding
some
backing
financial
backing
into
these
projects.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
the
other
question
is
about
the
first
swan
park
for
the
next
phases.
That
to
me
sounds
like
more
of
a
legislative
potential.
Is
there
any
other
funding
source
you
think
that
could
be
used?
I
know
stacking
would
be
essential,
but
I'm
just
curious
if
that
was
if
we'd
be
relying
on.
If
you
think
legislative
funding
would
be
more
appropriate
for
that.
N
Chairman
councillor
viorell,
yes,
I
think
that's
right.
I
think
you
know
whether
or
not
parks
get
money
in
the
infrastructure
bill.
I
haven't
heard
the
words
it
is
regional
park,
it
is
south
side,
it
serves
a
big
community
of
part
of
our
growth.
I
think
those
are
really
attractive
things
that
the
legislature
gave
us
a
million
dollars
to
parks
in
general
last
year,
so
it
seems
that
they
are
interested
in
supporting
parks.
It's
a
big
piece
of
it's
a
lot
of
money
for
the
grt
bond
to
take.
N
You
know
three
and
a
half
million
out
for
one
park,
so
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
needs
to
address
like
you
know,
playground
equipment
here
and
there
and
you
know,
repairing
slide
things,
and
you
know
those
kinds
of
things
are
great
for
grt
bond,
but
a
big
project
like
this
you're
right,
I
think,
is
sort
of
an
attractive
one
for
the
legislature,
and
I
think
you
remember
in
the
memo.
The
legislature
also
gave
us
a
million
dollars
towards
the
midtown
infrastructure,
so
they
are
focused
on
that
and
it's
really
helpful.
N
Obviously,
support
for
the
airport
has
been
demonstrated
and
parks
in
general.
I
think
yeah,
that's
last
year's
and
then
last
year
the
district
priorities
each
were
funded
at
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
that
was
double
what
we
asked
for
at
150
000
for
legislative
priority.
I
mean
per
district
priority.
Sorry
got
it.
F
Okay
I'll
yield
the
floor
for
now
just
hear
from
my
colleagues.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
would
just
echo
councilwoman
villarreal
about
you
know,
making
sure
that
we
are
going
to
the
right
pot
for
these
requests.
You
know
I
I
completely
agree
that
you
know
sounds
like
the
feds
and
and
possibly
the
state
are.
M
You
know
very
interested
in
the
transportation
and
broadband,
and
I
take
to
heart
also.
You
know
the
fact
that
libraries
do
well
in
bonds.
That's
why
you
often
see
them
at
the
state
level.
In
the
go
bond
year,
senior
centers
do
well
in
bonds.
You
see
them
at
the
state
level.
M
I
think
this
is
nuanced
in
the
sense
that
I
think
what
you're
asking
us
to
do
regina
is
to
make
this
a
top
five
priority,
so
that
we
can
position
ourselves
to
include
the
actual
construction
of
the
library
in
the
go
bond.
So
that
seems
like
kind
of
smart
planning
to
me
to
put
that
in
the
top
five,
and
so
you
know
in
my
mind
I
would
not.
I
think
the
airport
is
our
number
one.
It
should
be
top
of
the
list.
M
We
have
been
trying
to
get
that
going
for
a
long
time
and
now
we
have
the
contract
and
we're
you
know
advancing
some
of
the
funds.
It's
going
to
be
super
important
that
we
kind
of
backfill
the
advance
that
we're
making.
So
to
me,
that's
certainly
high
midtown.
The
infrastructure
needs
there
are
a
lot
and
I
think
that's
something
that
lots
of
legislators
can
buy
into.
M
So
I
think
that's
super
important
and
you
know,
and
then
I
think
to
the
chairman's
point:
the
fire
station
is
something
that
we
were
ready
to.
You
know,
put
our
hard
cats
on
and
get
our
shovels
and
then
we
kind
of
backed
away
because
of
the
pandemic.
I
believe-
and
so
as
I
recall
so
to
me-
I
think
those
those
would
be
my
you
know.
Oh
and
I
forgot
to
mention
swan
park.
You
know
we
started
down
that
path.
M
So
to
me
it
would
be
airport
swan
park,
midtown
fire
station
and
the
and
the
library
bond-
and
you
know
I
I
will
say
again-
I'm
thrilled
to
have
the
south
capital
area
road
reconstruction
on
the
icip
list,
I'm
fine
if
it
doesn't
make
the
top
five.
I
I
do
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
find
some
money
for,
but
I'm
I'm
delighted
that
it's
on
that
list
as
something
that
really
needs
to
be
addressed
and
let's
see,
is
there
any,
and
I
guess
my
only
question
would
be.
M
Is
there
any
reason
why
we
didn't
say
swan
park
why
we
said
southwest
activity
node
park?
I
I
just
wonder
if
you
shouldn't
put
in
parentheses
swan
park
because
it
took
me
a
while
I'm
like
what
the
heck
is
that
and
then
I
realized,
and
so
I
I
don't
want
to
throw
people
that
you
know
this
is
some
sort
of
new
thing
we're
doing
and
we
haven't
finished
all
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
so
just
flag.
That,
and
I
think
that's
all.
I
have
thanks
mr
chair.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
think
I
have
some
very
similar
comments.
You
know
again
the
really
positioning
us
ourselves
well,
looking
at
our
different
funding
sources,
making
sure
that
we
are
being
smart
with
them.
L
For
me,
midtown
is,
of
course,
very
high
at
the
top
of
my
list,
given
the
extensive
need
that
we
have
there
and
how
crucial
that
project
is
to
our
community.
Really,
it's
getting
a
lot
of
attention
and
we're
really
rolling,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
have
the
ability
to
keep
up
with
that
momentum
and
keep
moving
forward.
If
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
community
that
we
need
to,
we
need
to
keep
pushing
along
with
midtown.
L
L
We
all
get
a
lot
of
discussion
about
weeds
and
two
for
me,
and
I
know
I've
brought
this
up
multiple
times
in
multiple
meetings,
what
it
does
for
our
workforce,
what
it
does
for
our
ability
to
take
care
of
our
parks,
which
I
hear
just
so
much
about
and
that
is
so
crucial
and
so
understanding
medians,
not
so
much
as
the
as
a
means
to
an
end
of
just
the
median,
but
really
the
ripple
effect
that
it
has
for
the
crews
that
are
maintaining
our
parks
and
our
maintaining
our
trails
and
these
pieces
that
I
hear
so
loud
and
clear
from
my
constituents
that
it
is
crucial
that
we
take
care
of
these.
L
And
so
I
do
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
medium
project
and
what
potential
other
funding
sources,
because
it's
sounding
like
there's
some
other
things
that
I
agree
are
really
kind
of
popping
it
down.
The
list
to
maybe
number
six
or
ten
somewhere
in
there,
and
so
I'm
curious
about
what
other
possibility
we
have
for
there
or
you
know
to
your
point,
regina.
If
they,
if
we
get
money
for
the
airport,
we
take
out
city
dollars
and
we
can
put
them
towards
other
things.
N
Thank
you
so
much
chairman,
council
cassette,
so
medians
would
definitely
be
a
potential
for
our
grt
bond
right,
because
that
is
deferred
maintenance.
It's
something
that
maybe
isn't
sort
of
important
enough
to
residents
to
want
to.
You
know,
spend
their
own
money
on
like
feeling
like
they're
buying
something,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
for
our
town,
because
it
you
know,
if
you've
looked
at
albuquerque's
medians
lately
and
their
gateway
mediums
they're,
actually
like
super
impressive
and
you're
you're
like
in
a
place
like
you
get
it.
This
is
a
desert
southwest.
N
It
has
a
native
american
influence.
You
know
they
are
sensitive
to
the
roadrunner.
You
know
you
just
get
a
message
about
them
and
our
medians
are
like
so
lacking
in
that
department,
and
it
ends
up
that
we
even
have
control
and
responsibility
of
the
medians
on
saint
francis
through
the
road
transfer
agreement
with
d.o.t.
N
So
the
the
grt
bond
would
definitely
be
another
place
that
we
could
look
for
that.
I
think,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
was
timing
of
the
funds
which
I
didn't
talk
about
before.
So
probably
the
soonest
money,
we'll
see
of
all
of
those
types
of
capital
funds
that
we
were
talking
about,
would
be
the
grt
bond
right
because
that's
under
our
control
we'll
be
moving
the
packet
through
governing
body
and
then
fund
sometime
next
year,
maybe
by
summer,
or
something,
whereas
with
the
legislature.
N
If
we
get
a
most
likely,
if
we
get
appropriations
in
the
session,
we
won't
see
the
grant
agreements
till
next
september.
That's
typically
when
we
see
it
so
the
first
money
might
be
grt.
Second,
money
might
be
legislative
third
money,
probably
geo.
Who
knows
when
the
federal
money's
going
to
show
up?
I
have
no
idea
about
that
really,
but
yeah
so
there's
so.
One
of
the
things
I
was
just
thinking
about
was
the
library
design.
N
If
we
want
to
put
that
in
a
geo
package,
we
might
want
to
get
that
going
asap
and
that
might
be
better
suited
from
a
timing
perspective
for
the
grt
bond
actually
than
to
wait
for
legislative
money.
Unless
they've
got
general
fund
money,
in
which
case
we
would
get
agreements,
maybe
as
soon
as
june-
and
I
don't
know
mary
director
mccoy,
if
you
know
if
what
kinds
of
money
they're
going
to
be
given
out
this
year,.
C
Mr
chair
director
wheeler,
I
am
not
privy
to
that
information.
I
think
it's
that
we
can
expect
a
mix.
That
being
said,
we
also
have
non-recurring
dollars
in
arpa
as
well.
C
I
do
want
to
you
know
remind
the
committee,
I
believe
we
did
talk
about
that
earlier
today
in
relation
to
the
child
care
conversation
that
you
had
and
that's
15
million
that
will
be
coming
to
the
city
and
the
city
is
doing
a
pretty
robust
public
input
process
over
the
next
month,
for
that
and
counselors
will
be
getting
information
on
the
what
the
public
has
identified
as
priorities.
L
Yeah,
I'm
glad
you
brought
up
the
library
because
that,
actually,
as
you
were
talking
that
I
started
to
think
about
well,
are
we
actually
going
to
have
the
design
ready
in
time
because
we'd
be
looking
to
put
a
geo
bond
on
the
ballot
next
november?
That's
that's.
I
mean
that's
tough
because
for
me
that
that
library
is
also
really
crucial,
again,
p,
being
part
of
the
midtown
puzzle
as
well.
L
You
know
almost
100
agreement
on
and
one
of
those
is
vogelson
stays
and
we,
you
know,
rehabilitate
vogelson
and
we
utilize
fogelson,
and
so,
if
we
don't
put
this
as
a
legislative
priority
for
me
that
that
means
that
would
absolutely
I
would
want
to
see
it
on
that
grt
bond
because
I
think
getting
ready
and
and
lining
ourselves
up
and
making
ourselves
in
the
best
position
possible
to
potentially
get
that
passed
as
a
geo
bond
in
november
is
really
crucial,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
our
community
to
be
moving
forward
with
the
21st
century
library
and
to
be
preserving
fogelson,
which
is,
is
really
so
incredibly
beloved
by
the
community
and
really
listening
there.
L
So
I
guess
I'd
be
willing
to
potentially,
if,
if
that,
actually
works
better
for
timing
to
pull
the
library
off.
But
you
know
it
would
definitely
need
to
be
on
that
grt
bond.
So
that
said,
assuming
the
library
would
stay
on.
I
think
my
top
five
would
be
the
same
as
what
council
romero
romeroworth
laid
out
with
the
airport
swan
midtown
library,
fire
station
two
and
then
seeing
that
medium
beautification.
L
Definitely
on
a
grt
and
some
of
those
other
pieces
on
a
grt
bond
that
would
move
forward
sooner
rather
than
later.
If
we
did
decide
to
pop
the
library
onto
a
grt
bond,
then
I
think
that
kind
of
becomes
a
question
of
what
would
fill
that
that
number
five
spot.
What
would
be
something
else
that
potentially
is
best
served
here,
because
I
mean
maybe
then
we
would
put
medians
back
on,
but
it
does
sound
like
if
that
can
be
filled
with
a
grt,
then
I'm
not
sure.
N
Chairman,
thank
you
councillor,
cassid.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
It's
worth
thinking
about
how
much
money
we're
going
to
get
to,
and
so
how
far
down
the
list
are
we
gonna
get
funded
right.
N
So
you
know
you
might
really
be
thinking
about
your
top
three
in
that
way,
because-
and
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
and-
and
so
I
don't
know-
I
feel
like
the
medians
are
if
we
were
to
put
both
the
medians
and
the
library
on
the
grt
bond,
that's
kind
of
a
heavy
load
on
the
grt
bond.
That's
going
to
need
to
carry
you
know,
10
million
dollars
for
two
and
two
years
of
road
rehabilitation,
and
it's
gonna
need
to
carry
some
pool
repairs
and
it's
gonna
need.
N
L
Okay,
okay,
so
then
it
may
make
sense
to
put
medians
on
there
in
grt
bond
for
for
the
library
design,
because
that
helps
us
better
with
timing
in
terms
of
a
geo
bond
and
then
just
while
we're
looking
at
the
list,
the
the
south
side
library
community
plaza.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that.
N
Sure,
chairman
counselor
cassette
so
you're
my
you're
probably
aware
that
there's
a
big
plaza
in
front
of
the
southside
library,
but
it's
really
completely
unusable.
It's
landscaped
with
short
trees
that
are
about
as
tall
as
a
human,
so
you
can't
get
under
them.
They're,
not
there's
no
irrigation,
so
they
don't
do
well.
N
It's
kind
of
some
funny
pavement,
that's
not
very
conducive
to
walking,
so
the
team
at
the
southside
library
has
conducted
pop-up
events
outside
their
library
using
tents
and
other
kind
of
infrastructure,
and
they
really
see
an
opportunity
of
that
plaza
to
be
much
more
functional
for
use
in
programming.
You
know
outdoor
reading
spaces
gathering
spaces
and
that's
what
that
project
is:
okay,
okay
and
then.
L
N
Chairman
councillor
cassette,
I
think,
you're,
I
think
you're
right.
We
could
think
about
as
we
look
at
what
you
know.
So
the
what
we'll
do
for
the
grt
bond
process
is.
Is
that
we'll
using
input
from
all
the
departments
will
put
a
package
together
of
potential
projects?
That's
you
know
at
least
10
million
over
what
you
could
possibly
afford,
so
that
we
could
narrow
it
down
and-
and
that
might
be
one
that
we
could
put
on
there
and
we
could
think
about
it
for
the
geo.
N
It's
it's
its
first
time
on
the
icip
list.
It's
actually
a
new
entry
to
the
capitalist
at
all,
and
so
it
isn't
all
that
common
for
a
brand
new
project
to
make
it
right
to
the
top
right
off
the
bat.
But
it
is
such
a
compelling
project
at
a
good
price
with
infrastructure
that
we
already
have
that
we
wanted
to
like
some
of
these
in
the
lower
part
of
the
list,
are
really
just
starting
to
get
the
governing
body
acquainted
with
these
projects
and
begin
to
think
about
their
priority
in
the.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
with
that
conversation
in
mind,
I
think
probably
how
I
I
might
order
this
would
be
airport
midtown
fire
station.
Two
swan
medians
would
be
probably
my
top
five
in
that
order,
with
the
very
strong
understanding
that
that
that
fogelson
library
design
is
coming
forward
in
a
grt
real
fast.
While
I
have
the
floor,
I
was
hoping
to
get
some
updates
on.
L
On
what
we
were
given
last
year,
obviously
teen
center,
I'm
aware
of
mostly
the
the
million
dollars
for
for
parks
where
what
is
happening
with
that
at
this
time.
N
That's
a
great
question
chairman:
I'm
councillor
cassette.
We
have
not
received
our
legislative
appropriations
from
last
session
so
and
they
so
I
got
an
update
today
that
we
expect
them
to
sell
the
bonds
in
december
and
then
the
agreements
usually
show
up
within
a
couple
of
months
of
that
so
maybe
february
we'll
have
the
funds
working
with
director
mcdonald
on
prioritizing
the
activities.
Of
course
we're
also.
So
what
our
plan
is
at
this
moment
is
to
get
funds
from
impact
fees
to
repair
the
two
big
courts
that
need
repair.
N
That's
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
work
900,
so
we'll
use
impact
fees
for
that,
and
then
we
might
need
some
of
the
legislative
appropriation
to
fix
the
rest
of
any
other
courts
that
need
to
be
repaired.
But
that
would
leave
us.
You
know
something
like
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
that
million
dollar
appropriation,
to
allocate
to
things
like
additional
playground,
equipment
and
other
kinds
of
improvements
to
the
parks.
Okay
or
potentially.
L
Wonderful
and
then
obviously
I
know
what's
happening
with
teen
center
midtown.
So,
okay,
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions
and
comments.
I'll
I'll
yield
the
floor
for
now.
Thank
you
so
much
regina.
B
Okay,
councilwoman
lindell.
A
Thanks
chair
so
on
this
list,
that's
in
our
packet.
A
This
is
in
the
october
12
memorandum,
the
10
items
that
are
on
this
list.
We
had
a
rather
robust
discussion
at
public
works
that
we
came
up.
We
we
narrowed
down
to
eight
items
and
of
the
eight
items.
A
N
Chairman
councillor
lindell
on
those
projects,
the
public
works
committee
pulled
from
further
down
the
list
of
the
icip
list,
so
just
to
make
sure
everybody's
clear.
I
think
we've
mentioned
it
before
on
the
icip
submittal
to
the
state.
N
Only
the
top
five
have
any
significant
ranking
and
then
all
the
rest
are
just
a
list
in
any
order
that
is
inconsequential,
but
the
public
works
committee
pulled
city
hall
and
this
memo
was
written
before
the
public
works
committee
meeting.
So
I
haven't
modified
the
memo
to
match
that.
But
that's
right.
The
public
works
committee
suggested
that
we
consider
the
new
consolidated
city
services
center
as
a
potential
project
and
the
arroyo
chibiso
crossing
project.
A
I'm
just
because
it
isn't
on
the
list,
it
doesn't
get
a
com
really
get
a
conversation
here.
I
think
that
arroyo,
chumiso
crossing
is
extremely
important
and
I
don't
you
know
one
of
the
lines
in
the
sand
on
this
list
for
me
is
medians,
and
I
think
that
counselor
cassette
made
some
really
excellent
points
on.
A
They're,
an
annual
mammoth
problem,
and
it's
an
area
that
I
think
that
city
staff
feels
constantly
whacked
about.
It
is
not
possible
for
our
workforce
at
this
point
in
time
to
keep
up
with
the
medians
and
the
levels
of
complaint
that
they
get.
It's
really
not
fair,
so
the
medians
will
be
a
real
line
in
the
sand.
For
me,
going
on
a
little
further
to
the
district
projects
that
are
listed.
N
Chairman
councillor
lindell,
actually
these
are
exactly
the
same
you're
you
are
correct.
We
have
typically
tried
to
put
small
dollar
amount
projects
in
there.
N
That
would
need
no
more
than
150
or
300
thousand
dollars,
but
there's
almost
nothing
that
you
can
do
with
that
kind
of
money
these
days,
and
so
these
are
the
same
district
priorities
we
had
last
year
exactly
the
same,
except
for
harrison
road
as
a
replacement,
because
district
one's
priority
last
year
was
paseo
de
las
viestas
repavement,
and
we're
going
to
combine
the
300
000
provided
from
the
legislature
with
300
000.
N
That
mark
brooks
has
remaining
from
some
savings
on
some
pavement,
we'll
put
that
together
and
we'll
repave
paseo
de
las
vistas
and
get
that
one
done
so
district
one
can
put
harrison
road
on
there
now
and
what
happened
was
before
these
projects
were
funded.
N
We
hadn't
really
super
scoped
them
out
and
now
that
we
got
some
funding
from
the
legislature,
we
scoped
them
out,
and
these
are
the
actual
cost
of
the
projects,
but
once
again,
if
they
were
to
provide
us
with
another
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
each
of
these,
you
can
see
that
that
would
get
us
a
really
long
way.
You
know
that
would
really
help
us
through
design
of
each
one,
at
least,
if
not
even
into
some
construction.
A
N
Because
we
did
it
last
year,
this
is
the
same
priority
if
we
can
so,
if
you
think
about
it,
10
of
the
total
project
cost
will
get
us
into
design.
So
we
have
enough
money
for
design
right
now.
Another
10
will
get
us
into
some
right-of-way
acquisition.
If
we
need
to
do
that-
and
so
it
kind
of
is
helpful
actually
to
fund
projects
with
enough
money
to
get
it
into
design
and
then
keep
working
on
the
construction
money
for
a
couple
of
years.
A
A
I
would
just
say
that,
for
me,
the
royal
chamisa
project
seems
like
a
project
that
we
really
need
to
put
some
attention
and
some
money
to.
I
don't
know
if
it
comes
legislatively
or
if
you
know
that's
a
bond
thing,
but
that's
been
sitting
out
there
for
a
very
very
long
time
and
for
me
the
medians
really
need
to
be
on
in
the
top
five.
A
In
the
list
I
mean
I
I
can
overlook
many
other
wishes
that
I
have
for
this
list,
but
the
medians
I've
been
here
since
2014
and
it's
time
that
we
put
some
attention
to
these
and
you
know,
however
much
it
costs
per
median.
However,
we
decide
to
do
this.
I
think
that
that's
a
project
and
who
was
just
was
it
you,
ms
wheeler,
that
was
saying
how
great
like
the
entry
medians
look
in
albuquerque.
A
We
we
deserve
absolutely
nothing
less,
nothing
less,
and
that's
that's
one
that
I
probably
doesn't
happen
that
often,
but
my
feet
are
probably
in
buckets
of
cement
over
that
one.
So
take
note
friends,
that's
all
I
have
chair.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilman
romero,
worth.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I'm
okay
with
switching
out
medians
for
or
putting
medians
in
in
place
of
the
library,
given
the
timing
that
regina
talked
about
because
it
I
I
thought,
we'd
be
able
to
get
that
money
and
do
the
design.
So
we
could
be
in
position
for
the
go
bond,
so
it
doesn't
sound
like
that.
M
Money
comes
down
the
pipe
in
time
to
help
us,
but
I
am
curious
and
I
I
guess
I
would
just
comment
that
I
I
think
city
hall,
putting
asking
for
money
for
city
hall
right
now
is
a
little
premature.
I
think
we
have
not
had
the
necessary
conversations
and
buy-in
from
the
community,
and
we
don't
really.
M
You
know
we're
just
starting
to
identify
that
that
well
talk
publicly
about
the
need
for
a
centralized
city
facility,
and
so
I
think
we
need
more
time
to
speak
with
the
community,
but
I
am
sort
of
curious,
the
arroyo
chamisa
crossing.
Where
is
that
in
the
in
the
process?
I
know
there
were
some.
M
I
think
they
were
early
neighborhood
notification
meetings.
I
don't
know
two
years
ago
right
before
the
pandemic.
M
Maybe
it
bring
me
up
to
speed
on
where
that
project
is,
and
is
it
positioned
yet
to
be
ready
for
asking
the
legislature
and-
and
I
I
can't
remember
how
much
money,
but
you
know
the
other
thing
about
city
hall-
is
that
we
have
these
other
projects
out
there
that
we
kind
of
need
to
finish
the
airport
being
the
very
most
important,
and
then
you
know,
and
then
midtown
and
then
the
fire
station,
because
we
were
just
about
ready.
So
just
curious.
What
tell
me
about
the.
N
Thank
you
chairman
councillor
romero
worth
so
yes,
arroyo,
chibiso
crossing
did
have
a
public
meeting
to
consider
alternatives.
So
the
first
thing
you
do
is
put
a
bunch
of
alternatives
on
the
table
and
select
the
preferred
alternative
out
of
that
public
meeting
that
fall
came
a
a
preferred
alternative
of
the
extensions
of
richards
avenue
as
the
preferred
alternative.
N
So
now
we're
in
phase
two
b,
which
is
the
further
analysis
of
the
preferred
alternative,
we're
expecting
to
have
a
public
meeting
soon
I
was
going
to
say
fall,
but
it's
fall,
so
it
should
be
happening
soon.
We
we
have
a
contractor
managing
that
project
for
us
actually
leroy
pacheco,
who
used
to
be
our
engineering
supervisor
and
we're
fit
so
we're
wrapping
up
that
section
and
then
the
next
phase
of
the
project
will
be
full
on
design,
which
will
you
know
be
a
really
expensive
and
important
piece.
N
It'll
include
identifying
what
right
of
way
we
need
to
purchase,
and
then
you
know
what
kind
of
treatments
to
the
arroyo
the
bridge.
You
know
what.
How
do
we
deal
with
that
right
now?
We
also,
you
might
remember,
have
five
million
dollars
of
funding
from
the
fed
our
federal
delegation
for
this
project
for
construction.
N
So
it
actually
is
important
that
we
do
get
some
funding
for
the
design
of
the
project
and
get
that
completed
in
order
to
leverage
those
federal
funds
properly
and
design
runs
about
eight
to
ten
percent
of
that
that
total
project
cost
that
you
see
on
the
icip
list.
N
There
other
funds,
it
is
important,
it
is
an
important
project,
as
councilor
lindell
said,
and
to
our
community
as
a
whole,
and
also
to
the
fact
that
we
have
the
funding
stack
already
accumulating
the
other
fund.
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
potential.
There's
two
one
of
them
would
be
the
federal
infrastructure
money
right.
We
know
for
sure,
that's
going
to
do
big.
N
You
know
this
kind
of
a
road
that,
like
really
you
we
we
could
actually
actually
ramela,
has
actually
done
some
back
of
the
envelope
work
to
identify
the
reduction
in
our
carbon
footprint.
That's
provided
by
this,
this
extension
of
richards,
so
that's
one
funding
source
and
then
certainly
we
do
have
our
grt
bond
and
then
other
legislative
funds.
M
B
Okay,
councilman
lindell
and
then
councilwoman
cassette
and
then
councilwoman,
b,
rael.
B
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
the
right
to
me
so
crossing
and
regina.
I
feel
like
we've
had
this
conversation
before,
isn't
this
also
something
that
there
potentially
is
nmdot
dollars
some
of
the
money
coming
through
that
we
discussed
through
mpo?
I
know
that
this
is
frequently
on
that
list.
Isn't
that
another
potential
funding
source
for
some
of
the
lots
of
money
we
can
accrue.
N
Chairman
council
council,
that
that's
correct,
they
haven't
funded
it
yet,
but
but
yes,
I
think
you're
right,
d.o.t
funding
is
a
potential
and
I
think
I'm
noticing
that
the
whole
icip
list
is
not
attached
to
this
agenda
item.
Is
that
what
you
see
in
the
packet?
I'm
so
sorry
it
should
be.
It
was
that's
important
for
you
to
be
able
to
see,
because
that
you
know,
of
course,
everything
on
the
list,
so
I
I
can
send
that
to
you
right
now,
I'm
so
sorry
and
we'll
attach
that.
N
But
yes,
dot
is
a
potential
funding
source,
but
ramela
has.
Let
me
know
that
you
know
she's
looking
for
funding
for
this,
which
makes
me
think
that
she
doesn't
see
a
dot
funding
source
that
looks
likely
for
this.
Okay,
okay,.
F
F
The
only
way
I'd
probably
support
medians
is,
I
mean,
I
think
the
case
that
we
can
make
is
now
that
we're
taking
over
roads
that
used
to
be
state.
We
have
way
more
to
figure
out
serious
and
saint
francis
there's
like
trees
growing,
I
mean
they're
weeds.
Well,
there
are
chinese
elms,
but
I
keep
thinking
about
that
median
that
it's
right
above
st
michael's
on
saint
francis.
It's
really
bad.
So
all
of
that,
I'm
saying
that,
because
I
think
that
that
makes
sense,
I'm
just
curious
if
they
would
fund
that.
F
N
Chairman
council,
via
real,
I
actually
did
not
check
with
them
about
that.
I
did
check
with
dot
to
see
if
they
thought
that
they
might
fund
it
and
there's
not
d.o.t
actually
cannot
buy
their
statutes,
funded
medians
only
as
one
percent
of
any
road
construction
project,
so
that
just
kind
of
explains
why
our
medians
look
the
way
they
do
so.
N
But
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
the
legislative
delegation
about
that,
and
I
should
say
that
I
did
on
council
chair,
rivera's
request
reach
out
to
mark
duran
to
be
available
to
the
governing
body
to
talk
about
this
at
the
october
27th
meeting,
so
he'll
and-
and
maybe
I
could
even
reach
out
to
him
with
that
question
and
see
if
we
could
get
some
thoughts
on
that
yeah.
I'd
like.
F
To
know
more
about
the
potential
for
that
and
if
that's
something
that
they've
have
funded
in
the
past,
I
can't
think
of
any
at
the
moment,
but
maybe
in
the
way
past
they've
funded
something
like
that
so
I'd
before
we
would
add
it
as
top
five.
I
would
like
to
know
if
medians
is
something
that
that's
even
feasible
or
there's
that
appetite
from
our
legislative
delegation
to
fund
something
like
that.
F
So
that's
just
a
little
caveat
to
the
to
that
piece.
We
didn't
have
the
full
list,
but
I
just
want
to
put
a
bug
in
everybody's
ear.
We
need
serious
funding
for
cerro
gordo.
F
It's
massive
there's
going
to
be
need
for
reconstruction,
there's
major
erosion
issues
and
that's
a
historic
area.
I
just
think
that
I
don't
think
in
this
case
because
of
the
the
need
for
all
these
other
projects
and
the
fact
that
this
is
road,
a
road
project,
but
I'm
just
letting
you
all
know
our
our
need,
for
that
is
pretty
pretty
massive,
probably
just
as
much
as
what
councillor
meadowworth
was
talking
about
in
south
capital.
F
In
this
case,
I
feel
like
it's
even
more
dire
because
there's
a
drop
off
and
it
could
I
just
there's
just
huge
erosion
issues,
so
I
guess
I
just
want
to
flag
that,
as
we
start
thinking
of
funding
sources
and
not
necessarily
legislative
funding
at
this
moment,
but
that
is
something
that
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
piecemeal
with
different
funding
sources
in
order
to
fund
that,
because
what
was
the
price
tag
for
that
again,
so
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
you
just
sent
it
it
did.
F
N
Gonna,
I'm
just
gonna,
say
a
number,
but
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
say
about
that
too,
is
that,
as
you
might
remember,
in
the
last
legislative,
so
sarah
gordo
were
carrying
a
six
million
dollar
price
tag
on
that,
so
600
000
would
get
us
into
design,
which
would
be
like
a
million
dollars
towards
design
and
right
away
would
be
a
really
great
way
to
start
that
project.
N
We're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
public
engagement,
of
course,
so
it'll
will
take
some
time
with
that,
we'll
be
in
design
for
at
least
a
year.
Maybe
two
and
the
other
thing
is
that
so
they
did
get
a
legislative
appropriation
of
250
000.
I
think
that
was
scraped
away,
and
so
I
kind
of
expect
that
the
homeowners
association
might
lobby
for
that
again
and
might
get
funded
again
and
which,
if
they
did,
maybe
we
could
match
that
with
our
grt
bond
to
get
us
into
some
design
on
this
project.
F
A
Counselor
via
real,
please
on
on
that
road,
the
cerro
gordo
is
on
the
icip
list,
correct.
A
F
N
F
F
And
then
I
just
had
one
clarification,
so
I'm
assuming
all
the
things
that
are
added
to
the
beef
further
resolved
are
still
relevant
because
there's
still
potential
legislation
that
might
impact
to
these
areas
so
including
early
childhood
education,
so
that
one,
I'm
assuming
why
that's
still
in
there,
the
one
that
was
added
that
I
don't
understand,
is
on
page
four.
F
For
the
new
mexico
tourism
department
for
use
in
advertising,
statewide
co-op
grant
program
and
or
personnel
expansion,
so
we
we
had
that
in
last
year
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
in
there,
because
nothing
shifted
if
that's
still
potentially
something
we
would
want
to
support,
because
it
didn't
didn't
gain
traction
or
do
you
know
the
status
of
that.
N
I
don't
know
I
I
don't.
All
I
know
is
that
it
was
on
our
list
last
year
and
I
thought
you
know
it's
always
good
for
santa
fe,
when
the
state
promotes
itself
as
a
destination
for
tourism.
So,
but
I
can
check
and
see
if
there's
anything
more
specific
than
that.
F
Yeah
that'd
be
good
to
understand,
and
then
I
didn't
understand
this
one,
because
it
was
also
related
to
new
mexico
tourism,
but
using
arpa
funds
as
a
one-time
allocation
monies
received
received
from
arpa
that
would
go
towards
tourism
also.
So
that
was
news
to
me.
I
didn't
know
and
if
it
made
sense
for
us
to
place
that
on
our
list.
So
if
you
could
get
back
to
me
about
that,
that
would
be
helpful.
F
F
So
I'm
I
have
some
language
I'm
going
to
craft
because
I
think
those
might
actually
get
discussed
at
the
legislature,
even
if
it's
a
short
session
and
some
other
things
about
the
housing
trust
fund.
The
other
thing
I'm
wanting
to
consider
because
there's
potential
for
re
reconsidering
it
even
though
it
did
pass
was
paid
sick
leave
and
we
had
that
in
our
language
last
year,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
stating
that
we
still
support
that,
because
I've
heard
some
grumblings
of
some
industries
that
want
to
take
that
off.
F
So
I
just
want
to
put
those
in
and
I'll
I'll
add
some
amendments
for
hopefully
for
our
next
meeting
that
we
can
consider.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
know
is:
do
we
need
to
add
anything
related
to
cannabis?
I
know
it
passed.
However,
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
things
that
we
need
to
re-emphasize
about
that
that
affect
us
and
if
there's
anything
coming
through
the
legislature,
that
would
be
like
clean
up
of
the
current
passage
of
that
legislation.
So
if
you,
if
someone
could
get
back
to
me
about
that,
I
mean
my.
F
My
concern
is
still
this
like
water
efficiency
for
the
and
water
conservation
and
how
we
can
support
that
in
this
cannabis,
like
high
water
use
industry.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
going
through
the
legislature,
that
would
support
that.
So,
if
you
can
find
out,
I
guess
regina,
that
falls
into
your
court,
but
I
would
like
to
know
if
there's
something
we
need
to
state
about
that.
If
there's
something
that
we
should
know
about.
N
Thank
you
chairman
councillor
viorell.
I
will
pass
all
of
those
notes
on
to
jesse,
as
well
as
other
department
directors
that
might
be
able
to
answer
those
questions.
B
Okay,
great
so
chairman
rivera,
it
looks
like
the
finance
committee
has
a
top
five
for
you,
not
necessarily
in
this
order,
but
it
will
be
swan
park
ii,
midtown
campus,
the
airport
fire
station
two
and
medians,
and
I
don't
know
if
chair
rivera
is
still
with
us,
but
so
with
that,
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
with
those?
Oh
there's,
chairman
rivera.
So,
mr
chairman,
anything
else
you
need
from
the
finance
committee.
O
No,
I
thank
you.
I
do
want
to
apologize
that
the
list
from
public
works
was
not
in
in
your
packet.
I
did
ask
it
to
be
there,
but
hopefully
moving
forward.
It
will
be
in
the
in
the
future
list
that
we
discussed,
but
I
was
it
was.
I
was
glad
to
see
that
it
was
similar
to
discussion
at
public
works
and,
ultimately,
I
think
we're
pretty
much
all
in
agreement
on
what
the
top
five
should
be.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this,
mr
chair,
and
we'll
look
forward
to
this
moving
on.
F
G
Yes
councillor
via
yes,
counselor
lindell,
yes,
councillor
romero,
wirth.
She
is
excused
okay
and
counselor
beta.
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
came
up
because,
when
I
was
looking
at
the
schedule
where
we
had
set
council
meetings
city
council
meetings,
there
were
a
couple
months
where
the
finance
meeting
was
the
monday
of
that
week
of
council
meetings,
which
is
not
how
it's
set
up,
but
I
think
carolyn.
I
know
you
try
to
explain
to
me
but,
and
then
I
just
saw
your
email.
F
G
F
G
They
were
incorrect.
I
talked
with
geraldine
and
she
said
that
the
march
governing
body
meeting
would
be
march
30th
and
the
june
meeting
the
last
one
will
be
june
29th,
so
that
does
not
present
a
conflict
with
public
works.
G
Okay,
with
with
that
being
said,
though,
I
was
looking
at
the
calendar
and
I'm
not
clear
on
the
august.
The
last
meeting
the
governing
body
will
have
in
august
so
that
date
may
or
may
not
change
for
the
finance
committee
meetings,
but
other
than
that
everything
else
looks
like
it's
right
on
and
it's
your
call.
I
mean
if
this
is
just
a
draft.
It's
a
tentative
proposal.
G
F
G
Well,
generally,
the
governing
body
holds
their
meetings
on
the
second
wednesday
and
the
last
wednesday
of
the
month.
G
So
a
finance
meeting
that
that
may
may
be
in
conflict
of
public
works,
I'm
not
sure,
but
if
it
is,
I
mean
it's
workable.
We
can
move
it
to
september
6th
or
if
public
works
is
open
to
another
date.
Okay
august.
F
That's
that's
fine,
I
think
we'll
just
wait
for
the
city
clerk,
then,
to
put
it
pull
this
all
together
and
then
they'll
find,
if
there's
any
any
inconsistencies
or
anything,
that's
scheduled
at
the
same
time.
Yes,
so
I
think
at
this
point
I'm
good
with
this.
So
I'll
move
to
proof.
D
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'll,
be
quick
in
the
interest
of
time.
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
shared
the
20,
the
first
grt
distribution
from
the
taxation
revenue
department
with
you,
jerrell
would
have
said
that
earlier
today
we
do
have
very
good
news
on
our
grt
revenue
into
the
city.
The
fiscal
year
started
out
strong
with
12.2
million
in
gross
receipts
tax
revenue
collected
in
july
of
2021..
C
This
is
about
a
36
increase
or
3
million,
compared
to
where
we
were
at
last
year
in
july
of
2020,
so
very
strong
start
to
the
fiscal
year.
That's
about
11
of
our
total
budgeted
grt
revenue
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
I
really
do
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
the
reports
and
the
different
charts
and
the
graphs
comparing
several
fiscal
years
of
time.
It
is
also
really
important
to
note
that
our
businesses
also
saw
a
significant
increase
in
their
taxable
gross
receipts
across
the
city.
C
Taxable
gross
receipts
year
over
year
saw
an
increasing
about
108
million
or
40
percent.
This
is
quite
spectacular,
continued
growth
that
we
are
experiencing.
C
That
being
said,
if
you
have
any
questions
once
you
do
look
at
that
report,
we
me
or
any
of
my
staff.
I
can
answer
any
of
your
questions.
We
do
anticipate
the
august
distribution
coming
from
trd
this
week
and
we
do
anticipate
that
that
will
also
include
the
the
amount
for
the
trd
settlement
that
council
approved
a
few
weeks
ago.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
to
that
extra
one-time
revenue
in
the
month
of
october
coming
in.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
Okay,
great
matters
from
the
committee,
I
am
introducing
a
resolution.