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A
A
Okay,
the
next
we
have
a
quorum.
So
the
first
item
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff.
A
C
A
Okay:
approval
of
the
consent
agenda:
let's
start
with
councilwoman
lindell
councilwoman
lindell.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
via
rael.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
a
b
also
as
in
boy.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
C
G
F
C
A
Okay,
approval
of
the
minutes:
these
are
the
finance
committee
meeting
minutes
of
august
17
2020.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff?
No
changes,
mr
chair.
Any
changes
from
the
committee.
A
B
H
E
E
I
don't
see
him,
but
you
do
so
that's
okay.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
so
it
the
memo
talks
about
jobs
created
the
128
jobs,
and
this
is
a
high-profile
software
development
company,
and
so
I'm
just
wanting
to
understand
better
of
out
of
the
128
jobs.
How
are
we
seeing
this
supporting
current
residents
of
new
mexico
or
the
labor
force
that
we
currently
have
for
those
128
jobs.
J
Well,
mr
chair
counselor,
via
real,
they
have
applied
for
job
training,
incentive
program,
funds
and
job
training
incentive
program
from
require
them
to
hire
people
from
new
mexico
as
well.
So
I'm
not
sure
exactly
the
numbers
that
they're
hired,
but
they
are,
they
are
the
numbers
from
new
mexico,
but
they're
gonna,
every
j-tip
member
that
that
every
j-tip
employee
that
they
hire
that
qualifies
for
jtip
they'll
have
to
be
from.
They
have
to
be
a
new
mexico
resident.
J
J
And
been
awarded
for
for
jtip
funds
for
this
year,
for
which
is,
I
believe,
it's
five,
but
let
me
introduce
peter
mitchell
from
the
new
mexico
economic
development
department.
He
may
know
the
answer
to
that
better
than
me.
K
Peter
go
ahead,
mr
mitchell.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
council,
rio
real
so
far,
they've
just
applied
for
five
five
job
training
program
positions
for
that
they've
been
they've
have
been
accepted.
K
Those
positions
have
been
accepted
and
I
believe
the
amount
was
around
a
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
those
five
jobs,
but
as
fabian
mentioned,
this
is
a
slow
buildup
of
approximately
12
jobs
a
year
so
they're
just
starting
and
those
are
their
basic
employees
right
now
and
another
point
to
be
made.
K
I
don't
see
mr
heinbuckle,
the
ceo
on
here,
but
another
point
to
be
emphasized
is
the
reason
he
came
to
santa
fe
was
because
of
what
he
perceived
to
be
a
strong
qualified
job
pool
from
the
laboratory,
sandy
and
lannell,
as
well
as
from
new
mexico,
tech
and
unm.
So
one
of
the
main
reasons
he
came
to
new
mexico
was
to
hire
new
mexican
employees
in
those
fields.
E
Sorry,
I
hate
keep
hearing
this
background
noise,
so
I
don't
know
whose
it
is,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it
is
so
the
job
training,
the
jtip
funds,
that's
five
positions,
then
that
are
required
to
be
supporting
local,
like
not
local,
but
current.
J
J
Yes,
yes,
counselor
and
that's
all
they're
hiring
this
year
is
five
people
and
then
they'll
go
the
their
job
creations
in
the
packet
and
so
they'll
be
hiring
like
approximately
12
per
year,
and
they
are
eligible
to
apply
for
jtep
funds
for
all
of
these
positions,
which
is
state
monies
for
job
training,
programs,
okay,.
E
And
maybe
this
question
is
from
mr
mitchell
about
your
process
of
how
you
decide
which
companies
will
get
or
qualify
for
funding
sources,
whether
it's
jtip
or
in
this
case
the
lida?
So
is
there
some
analysis?
You
do
other
than
the
fact
that
you
have
to
determine
if
it
qualifies
for
manufacturing,
but
is
there
any
look
at
social
benefits
of
organizations
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
jobs,
but
what
kind
of
social
benefits
they
bring
or
have
implications
on
for
new
mexico
in
terms
of
the
type
of
sector
they
work
in.
K
Yes,
the
council
viral
chairman,
the
jobs
that
that
is
important
part
of
the
j-tip
process,
where
we
look
at
their
civil
civic
involvement,
as
well
as
the
benefits
to
their
employees.
K
So
that's
an
important
portion
of
the
j-tip
part
of
the
process
for
the
leader,
part
of
the
process,
we're
basically
looking
at
their
their
capital
expenditures,
as
well
as
job
creation
and
the
amount
of
payroll
over
the
10-year
period.
So
the
benefits
are
looked
at
or
scrutinized
more
closely.
At
the
j-tip
level,
the
leader
is
a
completely
separate.
L
E
Sorry,
I
keep
meeting
because
I
hear
feedback
just
curious.
How,
then,
this
and
analyze
the
social
benefit
of
supporting
a
particular
business
or
corporation
or
company.
K
Well,
that
that
was
the
the
focus
of
lita
is
to
see
what
they're
investing
in
the
community.
So
we
don't
have
a
specific
part
in
lita
that
addresses
the
social
benefits
and
the
benefits
of
the
company,
we're
focused
on
on
job
creation
and
how
quickly
what
we're
investing
will
be
paid
back
by
payroll
taxes,
grt
generated
etc
by
the
company.
E
I
see
okay
and
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
social
benefit,
I
definitely
thinks
civic
involvement
is
a
piece
benefits.
What
kind
of
benefit
packages
they
have
for
employees
and
different
aspects
of
their
employment
structure.
E
But
I
also
think
about
the
social
benefit
of
the
type
of
jobs,
the
type
of
work
they
are
doing
in
communities
and
in
this
case,
from
what
I
understand
from
the
packet
material
that
this
particular
company
does
proprietary
software
that
is
utilized
by
the
department
of
defense
and
nuclear
power
industry
and
I'm
curious
if
they
elaborate
as
to
what
exactly
the
kind
of
things
they're
supporting
in
those
two
veins
of
industry.
K
No
in
the
mr
chair
council,
women
via
real,
they
did
not
articulate
that
for
the
specific
industries
again
their
their
focus.
Our
focus
was
on
the
payroll
and
the
amount
of
revenue
generated
for
the
community.
So
they
it
to
answer
your
questions
succinctly.
They
did
not
articulate
that
in
their
application
for
leader
funds.
E
Okay-
and
I
guess
the
reason
why
I'm
inquiring
about
this
is,
I
think,
about
the
type
of
people
type
of
companies,
the
type
of
corporation
that
we
involve
ourselves
with
or
align
ourselves
with
and
one
of
them.
E
This
is
not
really
exactly
the
same
kind
of
level,
but
when
we
were
deciding
what
kind
of
company
we
wanted
to
help
us
with
our
security
for
the
city,
we
initially
had
a
company
that
had
a
lot
of
human
rights
violations
around
the
globe,
and
so,
ultimately,
we
got
rid
of
that
contract,
and
so
I
guess
I
think,
about
the
implications,
even
though
it's
one
step
removed
software
supporting
department
of
defense
and
nuclear
power,
industry
utilizing
quantum
analytics,
and
it
doesn't
really
tell
me
exactly
like
what
the
social
benefit
is
of
that
and
that's
why
I'm
inquiring
about
these
people.
E
So
I
guess
for
the
next
iteration,
unless
you
have
some
feedback
to
give
me
on
this
particular
topic.
Where
does
this
go
next
again,.
E
So
I'm
gonna
do
a
little
bit
of
more
research
and
if
there's
some
way
that
you
all
can
provide
me
with
some
information
about
the
company
and
their
ethics
around
the
work
they
do
and
the
industries
they
support,
then
I
would
feel
better
about
this
contract,
and
so
I'm
gonna
abstain
tonight.
E
But
I
think
there's
some
additional
information.
I
can
gather
until
the
next
meeting.
K
Mr
chair
council,
villarreal
I'd
be
happy
to
pose
these
questions
to
mr
heinbach
of
the
ceo
of
the
company
and
for
him
to
articulate
that
in
writing.
Because
he's
he
knows
the
the
social
benefits
of
a
rather
complex
type
of
industry,
a
lot
better
than
I
do
so.
I'd
defer
to
him
and
I'd
be
happy
to
ask
these
questions
to
him
and
get
you
back
answers.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
trujillo,
we
will
be
overseeing
this
correct
at
the
city
level,.
J
Mr
chair
councillor,
cassette
sanchez.
Yes,
we
will,
we
will
be
the
fiscal
agent
and
we'll
be
overseeing
the
administration
of
this
contract.
C
J
Well,
the
the
mr
chair,
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
the
the
lita
clawback
doesn't
necessarily
have
a.
They
don't
have
a
clawback
clause.
What
they
have
is
a
security
investment.
So
what
happens?
J
Is
they
have
to
put
up
a
security,
that's
equal
to
the
amount
of
the
money
that
they
will
be
receiving
as
a
grant,
which
is
a
half
a
million
dollars,
and
if
they
don't
perform
and
meet
their
economic
development
goals,
then
we
get
to
go
and
take
either
that
money
or
to
or
take
that
security,
and
we
get
to
like
say
cash
it
in
or
whatever
it
is.
So
there
is
no
risk
to
the
city
of
santa
fe
or
to
the
state
of
new
mexico.
C
Okay,
correct.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
correct
in
my
head.
So,
okay,
wonderful!
Thank
you.
I
do
appreciate
you
giving
me
that
information.
I
yield
the
floor.
A
A
M
C
A
Okay,
the
item
that
brings
us
to
item
b
with
your
consideration
of
resolution,
number
20
20,
a
resolution
adopting
the
2022
2026
infrastructure
capital
improvements
plan,
icip,
councilwoman
lindell.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
What
I
wanted
to
do,
though,
was
to
look
at
our
top
five,
and
I
was
going
to
ask
this
committee
under
consideration
of
what
we
were
told
by
mr
duran
last
week:
information
on
projects
being
funded
and
the
amount
of
funding
that
he
thought
that
we
might
be
getting
in
this
cycle.
I
was
going
to
ask
if
this
committee
would
consider
a
motion
that
don't
make
a
motion
to
remove
the
fire
station
from
our
top
five
and
replace
it
with
the
harrison
road,
sidewalk
and
lighting
improvements.
D
So
that's
a
motion
and
the
reason
that
I'm
making
that
motion
is
harrison
road.
That's
where
pete's
place
is
and.
D
D
It's
been
a
long
time,
we've
gotten
a
little
bit
of
money
for
it
counselor
via
real,
and
I
have
both
made
it
our
number
one
priority
for
several
years
and
considering
the
small
amount
of
money
that
we're
going
to
get
this
year.
D
Some
of
these
big
projects
will
not
benefit
by
it
and
we
could
make
a
real
difference
and
get
some
traction
on
changing
the
lives
of
people
in
this
neighborhood.
So
I've
made
a
motion
to
move
the
fire
station
out
of
the
top
five
and
to
move
harrison.
Road,
sidewalk
and
lighting
improvements
into
the
top
five,
and
I
second
that.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
under
further
discussion,
councilwoman
via
rael.
You
had
pulled
this
off
also
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
E
Yeah,
I
can't
stress
enough
what
council
councilor
lindelos
has
been
talking
about,
and
it's
a
matter
of
safety,
and
it's
not
just
it's.
It's
also
the
fact
that
this
area
never
had
the
infrastructure
it
deserved
to
begin
with,
and
then
to
add
more
complexity
to
it.
The
issues
that
we're
seeing
with
the
homeless,
shelter
and
not
having
an
ability
to
control
what's
happening
happening
outside
of
their
boundaries
has
created
a
lot
of
fear,
and
I
think
some
of
you
got
copied
on
an
email
about
that.
E
I
think
all
of
the
counselors
did-
and
I
think
they're
just
done-
and
this
is
you
know
I
feel
like
this-
is
a
short-term
effort
and
there's
larger
kind
of
more
complex
issues.
We're
gonna
have
to
tackle
with
this,
but
at
the
very
least,
we
need
the
proper
infrastructure
to
provide
safety
for
this
particular
street.
E
E
I
think
in
the
last
committee
meeting,
maybe
in
public
works.
E
Okay,
so
I'm
okay
with
that,
I'm
actually
wondering
after
hearing
part
of
that
conversation
you
all
had
is
if
the
airport
needs
to
be
on
there
this
year.
E
I
know
we
have
different
sections
different
phases
that
we
still
need
to
work
on,
but
we
do
have
funding
allocated
for
the
airport
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
particular
time
period
we
would
even
get
it.
So
maybe
we
should
move
up
something
else
that
has
more
particular
public
health
and
safety
or
wellness
related
issues
so
that
we
can
correlate
it
with
with
the
pandemic.
E
So
I
don't
know
what
that
looks
like.
So
maybe
there's
one
more
slot
that
we
would
consider
for
something
else.
But
as
of
as
of
today,
I
would
love
for
my
colleagues
to
support
the
harrison
safety
measures
for
infrastructure
and
then
some
of
the
other
ones
that
we've
had.
E
I
guess
the
other
one
I'd
like
to
mention
is:
maybe
the
I
can't
remember
that
we
named
it
differently,
but
it's
really
around
stormwater
infrastructure
needs
and
I
would
like
staff
to
indicate
if
we
need
any
other
funding
sources
or
at
least
consider
those
that
would
come
from
the
state
other
than
what
we've
allocated
from
other
sources.
N
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
right
now,
our
plans
for
stormwater
projects
is
to
utilize
the
city
stormwater
fee.
We're
looking
to
our
operating
budget
showed
a
conservative
revenue
stream
in
that
area,
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
be
getting
more
money.
What
we're
doing
now,
once
we
get
through
icip
and
this
capital
reallocation
that
you
guys
are
going
to
be
looking
at
later
on.
N
That's
going
to
be
one
of
our
next
priorities
as
a
department
is
to
meet
with
finance
to
see
what
kind
of
bonding
capacity
we
have
based
on
bonding
or
loan
capacity
we
have
based
on
that
fee.
So
that's
our
primary
revenue
source
that
we're
looking
to
utilize
to
to
fund
stormwater
projects.
E
Okay,
because
I
know
the
fee
is
not
enough-
that's
just
a
small
like
drop
in
the
bucket,
so
if
there's
bonding
or
loan
capacity,
that
makes
sense,
but
should
we
leverage
does
it
make
sense
to
leverage
state
funds?
Is
my
question?
You
don't
necessarily
need
to
answer
it
tonight,
but
I
I
would
like
to
know
if
that
makes
sense.
E
N
Mr
chair
conservation,
it's
a
very
good
question,
so
the
purpose
of
that
meeting
is
to
come
up
with
district
priorities,
so
that
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
correlate
with
the
top
five
city
priorities.
Okay,
although
you
know
we
can
have
more
of
that
discussion
when
we
meet,
but
it's
really
to
develop
this
the
district
priorities
and
to
set
us
up
for
the
subsequent
resolution
that
we're
going
to
look
to
pass
that
identifies
those
priorities.
E
Okay,
thanks
for
the
clarity
I
couldn't
remember
if
they
go
hand
in
hand
with
this
particular
resolution
or
if
that's
separate,
is
that
separate?
I
thought
it
was
all
kind
of
bundled
in.
N
I
believe
it's
been
a
separate
resolution
than
the
one
that
identifies
the
icip
list.
What
we're
doing
now,
it's
a
separate
one
that
identifies
the
city's
top
five,
as
well
as
the
district
priorities.
N
The
city
top
five
does
need
to
correlate
with
this
list
that
we're
approving
now.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
discuss
this
now.
I
think.
Typically,
we
brought
it
all
forward
together,
but
because
of
timing,
and
because
of
all
of
our
efforts
with
previous
budget
efforts,
you
know
we're
running
a
little
bit
late
on
this,
so
the
important
thing
is
to
get
this
icip
list
approved,
entered
into
the
dfa
system,
which
is
track
which
we'll
be
able
to
do
if
it
gets
approved
at
next
council.
N
The
resolution
that
formalizes
our
priorities
doesn't
necessarily
necessarily
need
to
happen
until
the
legislative
session,
so
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do
that.
Great.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
A
That's
all
I
have
thank
you:
okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez.
You
had
identified
wanting
to
discuss
this
too
and
we
approve
the
agenda
so
I'll
go
to
you
next
then
councilwoman
romero
worth
and
then
I'm
going
to
allow
councillor
rivera
to
chime
in
as
the
chair
of
the
public
works
committee,
so
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez.
Thank
you.
C
Mr
chair,
I
I
actually
also
had
the
similar
question
about
putting
the
airport
as
priority,
and
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
where
we
are
with
the
terminal,
expansion
and
essentially
why
we
were
putting
this
as
our
number
two.
What
does
it
mean
if
we
don't
have
money
for
this
moving
forward
or
this
next
upcoming
year.
N
N
We
are
trying
to
move
forward
with
the
design
of
phase
two,
which
would
be
the
first
phase
of
the
terminal
itself
expansion
and
that
that's
really
the
important
one
that
brings
our
terminal
up
to
to
modern
abilities
where
we
have
a
an
easier
flow
than
what
we
have
now
through
tsa
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
N
N
But
you
know
as
we
dive
into
design
and
as
we
move
forward
with
bidding
out,
adding
a
little
bit
more
money
would
add.
I
guess
a
little
more
security
in
our
ability
to
process
that
that
phase
of
the
expansion-
and
then
I
know
regina,
is-
is
definitely
very
intimate
with
with
that
project
and
if
she
has
anything
to
add
you
know,
I'd
definitely
ask
her
to
do
so.
L
L
C
You
very
much
john,
so
I
you
know,
I
keep
I've
had
numerous
constituent
emails
about
street
pavement
and
sidewalks
and
trail.
You
know
repair
and
again,
just
considering
what
this
year
looks
like.
I
am
wondering
if
that
might
be
a
more
beneficial
use
of
our
priorities.
You
know
I
think
johnny.
C
I
know
you
and
I
have
had
numerous
conversations
about
that
in
relation
to
some
of
these
constituent
emails
about
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
let
go
a
little
bit
more
and
that
I
think
that
our
constituents
could
really
see
and
really
benefit
from.
So
that's
something
I'd
like
to
consider.
I
know
that
there
is
a
a
general
you
know:
street
repavement
and
rehabilitation.
C
Category
and
john.
I
rely
on
your
expertise
about
strategy
for
our
top
five,
but
that
is
something
that
I'm
very
interested
in
and
then
I
also
just
want
to
say
that
for
the
public
works
and
utilities
committee,
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
the
parks,
renovation
and
repairs
went
on
to
the
top
five,
and
I
am
in
full
support
of
that.
So
thank
you.
Public
works
and
utilities
for
making.
N
So
one
thing
I'd
like
to
just
to
add
to
to
your
decision
is
you
know
for
planning
purposes?
I
would
consider
the
phase
two
of
the
overall
airport
expansion,
which
is
phase
one
of
the
terminal
expansion
to
be
fully
funded.
I
I
think,
would
you
say
that,
would
that
be
fair
to
say,
regina.
L
I
I
would,
I
think
it
is
just
like
you
said
you
know,
we
don't
know,
you
know
how
far
off
we
are
like,
given
that
we're
not
in
final
design
and
we
haven't,
did
it
so
that's
always
a
discovery
phase,
and
we
usually
I
don't
know
if
we've
ever
discovered,
that
we
have
too
much
money
at
that
point,
we
almost
always
discover
that
we're
a
little
short.
So
I
think
that's
what
john
was
talking
about
that
having
the
money
there.
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
something
about
counselor
cassette.
L
Sanchez's
idea
about
paving
mr
duran
has
let
us
know
a
number
of
times
that
getting
legislative
funding
for
a
local
road
paving
is
just
not
gonna
happen.
Not
in
this
context.
They
have
a
separate.
L
You
know
resolution
that
they
pass
for
roads
and-
and
you
know
we
do
have
resources
for
paving
roads
as
well,
we'll
be
looking
at
a
grt
bond
this
year
as
well
as
it's
almost
time
for
us
to
do
our
gas
tax
bond
again,
which
gave
us
all
that
money,
and
so
I
think
I
think
that
wouldn't
be
the
most
strategic
one
to
put
in
our
top
five
here.
C
Thank
you,
ms
wheeler.
I
do
really
appreciate
your
your
expertise
in
this
area,
so
I
I
appreciate
you
putting
in
that
input,
quick
question
about
harrison
road
and
perhaps
councillor
lindell
or
via
real,
might
be
able
to
answer
this.
You
know
it
is
technically
in
district
one,
although
across
the
street,
from
district
four
and
so
the
pete's
place
safety
concerns
have
been
raised
by
many
of
my
constituents
on
the
other
side
of
cerritos.
D
Well,
I'll
start,
if
you
don't
mind
counselor
via
rail,
there's
no
lighting
on
the
part
of
harrison
between
cerrios
and
aguafria,
so
that
creates
an
area
that
it's
very
easy
for
people
to
hide
and
because
people
are
not
allowed
into
peats
that
are
inebriated.
D
Those
people
have
a
tendency.
Those
folks
have
a
tendency
to
hang
around
the
periphery
and
also
it
because
of
the
darkness.
It's
become
a
very
active
area
for
drug
use,
it's
just
dangerous
and
it's
all
about
safety
and
the
residents
there
have
put
up
with
this.
For
years
really
they've
they've
borne
the
hardship
of
the
shelter
for
the
entire
city.
D
Now,
that's
not
to
say.
We
also
need
to
remember
that
up
until
recently,
pete's
has
done
the
work
for
the
city
and
of
the
city,
because
that's
not
some
work
that
we
were
actually
doing.
We
are
doing
that
work
on
the
campus
right
now,
but
nonetheless
pizza's
done
that
work
for
the
city
for
many
years
through
volunteers,.
D
I'm
not
being
critical
about
pete's,
it's
the
circumstances
and
how
this
is
spilled
over
in
to
the
neighborhood
pete's
does
what
they
can
do
to
manage
their
own
property.
It
is
not
necessary
for
them
to
manage
the
properties
around
them
and
the
reports
that
we
get
on
a
pretty
regular
basis
is
when
people
call
the
police,
they
don't
get
an
acceptable
response
time
and
that
adds
to
the
urgency
of
having
lights
on
harrison
road.
So
that's
I
mean
nothing's
changed
on
harrison
road
other
than
it's
gotten.
Worse,.
E
And
I
would
add
to
that
that
there's
also
a
safety
issue
for
clients
at
the
shelter
utilizing
the
shelter
for
not
having
places
outside
of
the
facility
to
fill.
Well,
I
guess
not.
The
lack
of
lighting
has
created
a
safety
issue
for
them
as
well.
C
Thank
you
very
much
counselors.
I
do.
I
appreciate
you
providing
me
a
bit
more
information
there.
Those
are
all
my
questions.
I
will
yield
the
camera.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
was
not
aware
that
I
assume
mr
duran
that
we're
talking
about
is
mark
duran,
the
lobbyist
for
the
city,
and
I
was
not
aware
that
did
he
make
a
presentation
to
the
public
utilities
committee?
Is
there
anybody
who
is
available
to
summarize
what
he
told
the
committee.
N
Yes,
so
at
the
beginning
of
public
works
committee,
I
provided
a
summary
of
a
meeting
I
had
with
mark
and
then
after
that,
mark
was
able
to
join
in
he
added
some
information.
N
So
what
was
discussed
is
what
we're
looking
at
this
upcoming
legislative
session
is
in
the
one
to
two
million
dollar
range
of
funding,
and
that's
total
for
city
and
district
priorities.
N
I
I
had
asked
him
about
utility
work.
That
was
a
question
one
during
our
kickoff
meeting
at
public
works.
If
that's
eligible,
he
said
yes,
although
he
said
that
people
have
been
very
unlikely
unlucky
in
receiving
money
for
that
type
of
of
a
thing.
N
Another
major
point
that
he
brought
up
and
it
kind
of
contradicted
a
strategy
I
thought
of,
but
I
can
explain
kind
of
clarify
it
is.
N
He
doesn't
suggest
that
people
ask
for
covet-specific
money,
because
there
is
already
a
relief
effort
that
the
state
is
providing
for
that,
and
so
it
wouldn't
be
beneficial
to
do
so
from
another
standpoint
is
by
the
time
we
get
that
money
it'll
be
at
least
a
year
from
legislative
session
before
we
sign
an
agreement
with
dfa,
for
whatever
the
that
project
or
respective
project
would
be
so
to
not
apply
for
specific
code
with
money.
One
thing
I
thought,
though,
is
that
you
know
covets
is
on
everybody's
mind.
N
It's
going
to
be
on
everybody's
mind,
so
you
can
come
up
with
covet
type
themes.
It's
not
necessarily
copermini
and
the
way
I
pitched
it
was
if
our
priorities,
some
of
our
priorities
at
least,
can
be
based
on
opening
up
the
city
post
covered
and
and
what
we
need
to
do
that,
and
I
thought
the
teen
center
was
one
of
those
things.
You
know.
I
think
the
communities
experienced
significant
effects
because
of
lack
of
activities
for
teens
and
that
type
of
thing
would
have
a
good
benefit.
N
So
it's
again,
it's
not
specifically
handling
kobit
right
now,
but
it's
having
the
the
it's
helping
us
not
only
handle
but
deal
handle
long-term
effects
of
kobe,
but
just
post-covet
opening
of
the
city.
N
I
think
those
are
the
main.
The
main
highlights
that
that
we
had
discussed.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
recall
any
others,
regina.
F
Okay,
I'm
sorry,
mr
chair
and
john,
so
one
to
two
million
is
what
mark
said.
F
Okay
and
it's
not
a
geo
bond
year
at
the
legislature,
I
think
that's
that's
in
presidentials.
I
think
so
we're
we're
voting
on
geo
bonds.
This
november,
I
believe,
on
the
ballot.
N
So
I
he
he
believes
that
the
main
revenue
source
will
be
severance
tax
bond.
F
Right,
okay
and
just
mr
chair
and
and
and
john
so
I
I'm
a
little
confused.
The
airport
is
fully
funded
or
it's
we're
it's
not
or
we
need
to.
We
were
thinking
about
funding
for
the
new
phase
or
clarify
that
for
me
again,.
N
Yes,
I
apologize
so
for
the
overall
airport
expansion
there's,
I
think,
basically,
three
phases.
The
first
phase
is
is
expanding
the
parking
lot
phase.
Two
and
three
is
expanding.
The
the
terminal
area
itself
and
I
would
characterize
the
first
phase
of
the
terminal
is
expansion-
is
really
bringing
up
the
sp
the
terminal
to
current.
N
I
guess
code
for
lack
of
a
better
word
like
to
so
that
way.
We
have
bathrooms
on
both
sides
of
the
tsa
and
the
baggage
isn't
overlapping,
where
people
are
loading
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
phase.
Three,
I
would
characterize
as
expanding
the
airport's
capacity,
even
though
the
the
first
phase
of
the
terminal
expansion
has
some
of
those
effects,
but
I
would
consider
phase
three
as
really
expanding
it
to
help
us
accommodate
more
commercial
flights
and
other
things
like
that.
N
Correct
what's
been
funded
today,
based
off
our
planning
numbers
would
fund
the
first
two
phases
parking
lot
and
then
the
first
phase
of
the
terminal,
expansion,
okay,.
F
I
I
guess
I
would
just
say
I
I
would
not
be
supportive
of
taking
the
airport
off
this
list
or
lowering
it
down
off
the
top
five.
For
a
couple
of
reasons,
I
think
the
airport
is
going
to
be
really
important
in
our
recovery
post
covid,
assuming
we
have
a
post
covered
moment,
and
you
know
it,
as
you
pointed
out,
it
takes
it
takes
time
to
get
the
money.
It
takes
time
to
do
the
work
right
now,
while
the
airport
isn't
as
busy.
F
Although
I
hear
it
is
still
pretty
busy,
you
know
might
be
an
ideal
time
to
be
doing
some
of
this
work
and
it's
it's
really
important
for
the
vitality
of
the
city,
long
term.
I
I
guess
I
would
also
remind
us
about
how
legislative
funding
works.
F
So,
historically,
we
try
to
ask
for
money
for
big
projects
that
cost
a
lot
of
money,
that
we
aren't
able
to
do
ourselves
through
our
various
revenue
sources
and
and
financial
tools
like,
as
regina,
mentioned,
the
bonding
with
the
gas
tax
bond
and
the
go
bonds,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
we
want
to
have
something
that
cuts
across
legislative
districts
in
our
santa
fe
delegation
right.
F
So
the
airport
is
something
that
I
think
all
the
legislators
in
our
delegation
understand
the
importance
of
and
will
give
a
little
of
their
capital
outlay
money,
because
that's
essentially
how
we
get
to
these
big
numbers
right
is
that
every
member
of
the
delegation
pledges
a
certain
amount
towards
particular
projects,
and
so
it's
another
reason
why
we,
you
know-
and
also
it's
why
we
do
kind
of
district,
specific,
smaller
projects
separately
and
those
you
know
sometimes
there's
a
little
little
money
that
nobody
knows
what
to
do
with
and
and
those
get
funded,
and
sometimes
they
don't.
F
But
but
our
top
five
projects
need
to
be
big
projects
that
we
can't
fund
ourselves
and
that
cut
across
projects
are
cut
across
the
entire
city.
Benefit
the
whole
city,
I
mean,
I
think,
arguably,
you
could
make
an
argument
that
improving
the
area
around
on
harrison
is
important
because
it
supports
the
homeless,
shelter
and
homelessness
is
a
city-wide
issue,
and
that's
you
know
something
that
we
we
need
help
with.
F
F
I
am
interested
in
roads
for
district
two.
I
I
think
there
are
some
areas
in
that
are
in
dire
need
of
rebuilding
and
repaving,
and
I
know
we
have
other
avenues
for
that,
so
I
will
certainly
be
talking
with
regina
and
and
john
about
that
down
the
road.
So
that's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
A
N
So
our
current
estimate
is
400,
000
of
that
we've
received
228
000
worth
of
funding,
so
we're
short
about
172..
Those
are
based
on
planning
numbers.
N
So,
where
we're
at
with
the
process,
we
are
working
on
setting
up
a
public
meeting
for
this
and
the
reason
we're
doing
that
at
least
at
this
time,
with
with
the
partial
funding
that
we
have
is
to
get
an
exact
sense
of
what
the
community
community
concerns
are
in
that
area
and
then
figure
out
which
they
would
rather
see
us
do
first,
if
we
only
had
partial
funding,
whether
it's
the
lighting
or
the
sidewalk,
because
what
we
have
now
is
is
not
enough
for
both
some
of
the
costly
factors
in
addition
to
infrastructure
to
accommodate
these
items
for
lighting,
there's
gonna
be
right-of-way
needs
for
sidewalk
they'll
be
right
away
needs,
as
well
as
the
need
to
relocate
a
significant
amount
of
of
natural
gas
infrastructure.
N
That's
there
and
we've
already
gotten
a
quote
for
that,
so
it
it
would
involve
that,
but
again
yeah!
That's
that's!
Where
we're
at
with
the
process.
400
000,
we're
short
about
172
right
now,.
A
Okay
and
that
172,
when
we,
when
we
looked
at
the
fire
station,
we
said
we
were
going
to
reallocate
6.5
million
that
we
had
set
aside.
Can
we
come
up
with
any
money
from
that
reallocation.
A
B
Mr
chair
counselors,
the
cip,
the
reallocation
of
that
6.5
million
is
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
We
would
be
able
to
use
a
portion
of
that
6.5
million
for
this
purpose.
If
we
did
vote
on
that
reallocation
this
evening,
most,
what
stand
out
quickest
to
me
is:
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
part
of
the
allocation
that
staff
has
outlined
for
miscellaneous
capital
expenses.
That
would
leave
us
a
balance
of
about
72
000.
B
A
So,
with
an
action
tonight
on
another
item
we
can,
we
could
allocate
a
hundred
thousand
more
to
harrison
road
and
then
so
that'll
only
leave
a
gap
of
72
000..
That
seems
like
a
pretty
small
amount,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
projects
as
a
whole,
and
I
would
I
would
think
we
can
find
that
somewhere
between
now
and
when
we
start
construction.
So
what
are
so
given
that
let
me
before
we
go
back
to
the
council,
let
me
let
councillor
rivera
speak
he's
been
waiting
and
then,
but
I'm
I'm.
A
I
think
I
like
that
idea,
because
I
think
this
project
needs
to
happen
sooner
rather
than
later
and
just
putting
it
on
a
list,
I'm
afraid.
If
we
put
it
on
this
list,
then
we
kind
of
forget
about
it
and
then
maybe
we
get
money
at
the
legislature.
Maybe
we
don't
and
then
we're
waiting
a
whole
other
year.
So
I
but
council,
mr
chairman
rivera,
did
you
want
to
address
this
item.
E
Mr
chair,
before
you
leave
that
that
particular
piece
that
john
just
stated,
I'm
sorry
we
better
before
we
lose
this.
You
said
4
000
john,
but
that
was
an
estimate
we
did
a
couple
years
ago
and
I'm
wondering
if
it's
gone
up,
or
maybe
it
was
last
year
or
a
year
and
a
half,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
with
things
that
cost
more
now
because
of
covid
that
that
amount
hasn't
gone
up.
N
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
that,
is
a
possibility
once
we
get
through
our
preliminary
design
will
have
a
better
number
on
that.
So
now
it
is
a
possibility
without
getting
too
much
into
that
future
item.
I
think
there
is
a
substantial
amount
of
funding
that
could
that
we
could
manipulate
in
addition
to
what's
being
proposed
and
I'd
like
you
know,
we
can
explain
that
during
that
future
item.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
I
I
think
we
should
reallocate
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
under
item
e
and
then
I
and
give
direction
to
staff
to
find
the
balance
because,
like
I
said,
I
think
if
we,
what
I'd
hate
to
happen
is
we
add
it
to
this
list
and
then
we
just
kind
of
like
I
said
we
forget
about
it
and
we
we
wait
till
january
and
hope
the
legislature
does
something
about
that,
but
councilman
rivera.
What
are.
P
Thank
you
so,
first
of
all,
just
want
to
say
I'm
in
support
of
harrison
road
100.
So,
however,
you
find
a
way
to
do.
That
is
fine
with
me.
The
second
thing
regarding
the
airport,
I
think
council
romero
worth
said
most
of
what
I
wanted
to
say
in
addition
to
what
she
said,
I
will
add
that
mark
duran
suggested
that
we
keep
it
on
the
top
five
list
as
well,
because
it's
a
regional
project
that
supports
all
of
northern
new
mexico.
P
So
there's
more
than
just
the
santa
fe
delegation,
that's
that's
interested
in
it,
and
also
it's
going
to
be
a
postcovid
recovery
method
for
for
all
of
northern
new
mexico.
So
he
did
recommend
that
it
that
it
stay,
and
I
think
that's
why
we
left
it.
So
we
have
some
high
dollar
projects
with
the
teen
center,
the
airport
and
then
some
lower,
lower
dollar
projects
with
parks
and
and
medians
that
we
can
take
advantage
of
whatever
the
legislature
can
come
up
with
to
give
us.
A
A
A
So,
okay,
so,
given
that
does
someone
want
to
make
a
motion
regarding
our
top
five
that
the
finance
committee
wants
to
recommend?
Mr.
A
N
Mr
romero,
this
mr
chair
counselor.
N
Basically
what
it
is
is
to
improve
our
median
infrastructures
to
not
only
beautify
them
but
to
reduce
maintenance,
our
maintenance
requirements
for
it,
so
the
just
the
general
pitch
for
that
postcode
even
is
because
of
our
reduction
on
operating
costs
to
the
less
we
have
to
have
staff
out
there,
maintaining
medians
the
more
we
can
have
them
on
our
parks
and
so
again
just
proving
that
infrastructure.
So
we
don't
have
to
provide
so
much
maintenance
effort
on
our
medians.
N
Mr
chair
counselor,
so
it
wouldn't
be
a
maintenance
item.
It
would
be
to
do
improvement
so
that
that
they
don't
require
maintenance,
and
so
this
is
what
a
specific
thing
we
do,
but
just
like
an
example
would
be
putting
weed
barrier
and
then
you
don't
have
to
replace
weeds.
Arguably
something
like
that.
N
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
we
discussed
that
specifically,
I
don't
think
we
did.
I
can
ask
him
so
I
honestly
don't
know.
E
Okay
and
then
I
still
want
to
know
if
you
can
give
me
more
of
an
idea,
if
not
tonight
later
about
stormwater
management,
if
that
needs
to
go
up
further.
N
Stormwater
management-
I
think
my
suggestion
is:
if
we
were
to
do
it,
we
would
identify
a
specific
project
in
our
pry
in
a
priority.
We
don't,
I
don't
think
we
have
to
specify,
provide
specificity
in
the
in
the
list
itself.
As
long
as
it's
covered
by
by
a
general
item.
That
being
said,
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
decent
amount
of
bonding
capacity
with
our
with
our
fee.
N
We've
increased,
it
almost
double,
and
I
think
we're
gonna
have
quite
a
bit
of
a
bonding
capacity
with
that,
and
we
should
be
able
to
do
quite
a
bit
with
city
funds.
N
And
well,
if
I
can,
if
regina,
I
think
she
has
something
to
add
to
this.
L
Thank
you
so
much
john
chairman
councilman
real.
If
you
remember,
we
just
increased
the
stormwater
fee
last
year
and
we
made
a
whole
pro
forma
and
project
plan
and
cash
flow
analysis
showing
that
we
could
bond
fund
projects
at
the
rate
that
we
could
achieve
them.
The
prioritized
projects
would
get
done
quickly,
there's
a
plan
in
place
and
I
think
now
is
really
the
time
to
really
work
with
finance,
as
john
said
earlier,
to
get
that
bonding
going
against
the
stormwater
fee.
E
Okay,
as
long
as
we
don't
somehow
have
a
gap
that
we
wouldn't
realize,
because
even
just
the
plan
itself
identified
priority
projects,
but
the
entire
like
need
is
pretty
great,
so
I
think
even
bonding
capacity
wouldn't
even
cover
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
just
bringing
that
up-
and
maybe
this
is
not
the
year
for
it.
Given
the
limited
funds,
this
state
will
be
able
to
give
us
anyway,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
our
radar
thanks.
N
Them
out
yes,
so
before
the
motion
was
submitted
to
you
guys
for
the
meeting
priority,
one
was
the
south
side
team
center.
Two
was
the
airport
terminal
expansion;
three,
it
was
a
santa
fe,
medium
beautification
and
actually
that's
an
error.
N
Public
works
committee
moved
parks
up
to
number
three
so
start
over
again:
number
one
south
side:
teen
center,
two
airport
terminal
expansion,
three
was
citywide
park,
renovation
for
medium
beautification
and
then
five
is
fire
station
number
two
that
that's
not.
What
is
not
what
was
sent
to
you
guys?
We
didn't
swap
medium
beautification
and
parks.
So
the
plan
you
have
shown
still
shows
parks
is
four
and
I
apologize
about
that.
P
E
I
just
remembered
mr
duran
saying
something
about
that.
Did
he
say
that,
because
of
the
amount
of
money
needed
for
that
project,
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
put
on
the
list
this
year.
N
N
We
just
threw
that
one
in
there
to
be
honest,
I'm
the
one
that
suggested
it
just
because
it
made
it.
Look
like
a
nice,
rounded
list.
You
know
we
have
everything
from
community
type
services
to
public
safety.
N
I
don't
know
how
far
down
that
list
with
one
to
two
million
dollars
we're
going
to
get
anyways,
especially
with
council
district
priorities.
One
thing
I
was
gonna
and
you
know
when
I
meet
with
council
districts,
what
I
thought
would
have
been
a
good
idea
since
parks
was
a
third
priority.
N
Maybe
district
priorities
would
revolve
around
that
each
district
had
their
park
priorities.
So
that
way,
it
just
kind
of
fortifies.
An
overall
city
position.
That's
further
explained
with
district
priorities,
so
you
know
with
the
teen
center,
maybe
a
little
money
for
the
airport
and
then
with
the
parks.
I
think
we
could
chew
up
one
to
two
million
dollars
fairly
quickly.
E
Yes,
I
think
so
too.
Okay.
L
Chairman
councilman,
I
think
I
remember
mark
duran,
saying
that
we
were
also
thinking
about
next
year
and
starting
to
foreshadow
what
our
priorities
might
be
there,
and
so
we
could
think
about
that
fifth
position
as
an
opportunity
for
that,
and
I
think
that
fire
station's
a
big
piece
now
that
I
think
it'll
be
important
that
we're
willing
to
wait
for,
but
at
some
point
I
think
it'll
be
a
priority
again
so
and
but
you
can
think
about
that
fifth
slot.
For
that
purpose.
A
A
N
You
know
so
I
I
think
it
has
a
lot
of
good
merits
and
similar
to
regina's
point,
which
is
a
very
good
point
that
mark
brought
up
is
even
if
we
don't
get
money
right
now.
If
we
do
cool,
if
we
don't
it
just
it's
it's
bringing
it
up
and
the
following
year.
It
may
set
us
up
for
for
money
for
that
project.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez,
you
have
your
hand
up.
Did
you
want
to
add
anything.
C
That
was
actually
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
ask
about.
Was
the
midtown
campus,
considering
where
we
are
in
that
process,
and
if
we
are
looking
at
some
of
the
projects
that
are
going
to
help
us
recover
from
cobit,
I
see
midtown
campus
as
a
real
opportunity.
So
that's
something
that
I
would
want
to
consider
in
that
five
spot.
A
Okay
and
chairman
rivera,
are
you
still
with
us?
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
regarding
swapping
out
the
fire
station
with
midtown
campus
before
I
took
promotion.
P
I
think
we
left
the
fire
station
on
there
specifically
because
there
was
only
half
of
us
half
of
the
council
that
had
looked
at
the
list,
so
we
felt
it
was
important
to
maybe
have
some
wiggle
room.
We
we
knew
the
fire
station
was
going
to
be
that
project.
P
I
think
if
this
committee
wants
to
make
that
suggestion,
and
then
we
have
probably
another
discussion
at
a
council
meeting
if
people
don't
agree,
but
I
definitely
think
there's
room
to
move
it
out
and
move
something
else
in.
A
Okay,
we
spent
some
time
on
this.
Is
there
a
motion.
A
C
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
this
with
the
top
five
of
the
south
side:
teen
center
airport
terminal
expansion,
city-wide
park
renovations
and
repairs,
santa
fe,
medium
beautification
and
midtown
infrastructure
development
as
a
top
five.
Second,
second,.
A
F
F
A
E
E
I
didn't,
I
couldn't
open
the
attachment.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
now
there
was
another
question
I
had.
E
E
That
you,
that
staff
put
together
in
order
to
cover
the
remaining
amount,
all
of
those
projects
are
just
are
essentially
like
self
safety
related
needs.
Or
is
it
just
wish
lists.
N
N
We
scraped
change
from
projects
that
were
completed,
reduced
scoping
projects
and
then
the
primary
funding
source
was
the
holding
off
on
the
construction
of
fire
station
number,
two
that
generated
six
and
a
half
million
dollars.
What
we're
looking
to
use
this
for
is
these
are
all
operating
supplies
that
we
would
have
normally
capital
they're
capital
items,
but
we
would
normally
budget
them
during
our
operating
budget.
So
so
we
need
them
so,
for
instance,
the
signal
stuff.
N
If
a
signal
goes
down,
we
need
equipment
to
repair
it,
which
we
don't
have
right
now
and
we
need
that
on
a
consistent
basis.
If
a
boiler
goes
down,
we
need
to
be
able
to
fix
it
at
a
moment's
notice.
There
are
some
some
planned
improvement
projects
such
as
the
mezzanine
and
hanover
chavez,
some
roof
repair,
but
this
is
primarily
what
money
we
would
normally
ask
for
in
the
operating
budget.
Another
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
so
the
six
and
a
half
million
was
primarily
bond
revenue.
N
My
understanding
is-
and
I
don't
understand
exactly
how
this
works-
I'm
sure
mary
could
explain
it
better,
but
we
have
some
bond
premium,
which
is
basically
additional
money.
In
addition
to
that,
I
think
that's
that
might
be
like
the
two
million
dollar
range
we're
not
proposing
that
right
now.
N
The
reason
is,
I
wanted
to
keep
it
simple,
because
what
the
original
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
everyone
was
familiar
with,
I
wanted
everyone
to
just
kind
of
keep
moving
that
along
what
we're
going
to
be
coming
forward
with
shortly
after
this
is
that
premium
bond
premium
funds-
and
you
know
in
that
proposal-
we
haven't
discussed
that,
but
it
could
be.
N
I
think
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
do
is
earmark
that
for
underfunded
projects
such
as
harrison
road,
we
may
have
some
other
operating
type
of
capital
expenses
that
come
up,
that
we'll
need
to
use
that
money
for.
But
that
is
something
that
you
guys
could
be
expecting
soon
is
the
appropriation
of
those
funds
and
the
additional
2
million
plus
a
bond
premium.
E
Good
to
know,
one
thing
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
is
out
of
this
6.5.
N
Dang,
it
okay,
so
on
page
five
number
five
of
your
packet,
but
I
believe
it's
pdf
sheet
number
eleven.
That
was
a
reprioritization
project
sheet
and
one
thing
that
it
did
do.
Is
it
actually
added
money
for
that
effort
for
the
cad
system
in
that
effort,
and
so,
if
you
like
me,
I
can
share
my
screen
with
with
the
more
legible
thing.
If
you'd
like
me
to
explain
that
in
more
detail.
N
N
E
Six
and
a
half
okay,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we've
already
that's
already
been
allocated.
So
what
we're
looking
at
now
for
this
amount
that
you're.
E
N
N
Yeah,
so
that
it's
a
you
know
a
very
good
question,
and
so
the
answer
is
yes,
and
no,
so
let
me
explain
it
real
quick.
If
I
can
I'm
gonna
share.
My
screen
is
kind
of.
I
won't
share
it
because
my
my
screen
isn't
working
that
great.
So
what
we
did
is
we
added
another
556
000
to
the
public
safety
radio
system
project,
and
that
was
primarily
to
help
with
the
computer-aided
dispatch
system
to
help
implement.
It's
called
the
cad
system.
N
As
part
of
that
original
budget,
they
were
also
looking
to
purchase
radios
themselves.
The
actual
hardware
themselves
right
now,
they're
short
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
not
included
in
this
just
because
it
I
it
came
to
us
after
we're
trying
to
get
this
approved.
So
I
can
get
operating
budget
for
the
entire
city,
so
we
can
start
fixing
signals
and
painting
roads
and
fixing
roofs
and
all
that
type
of
stuff.
N
What
we're
going
to
be
following
this
up
with
is
another
bar
to
shake
loose
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
various
areas.
To
help
supplement
the
radio
purchase
that
the
fire
station's
gonna
need,
so
you
will
be
seeing
that
here
shortly.
N
Yeah
I'd
like
to,
if,
if
we
can
amend
it
to
do
it
right
now,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do
it.
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
mary
has
any
any
concerns
with
that.
What
I
can.
Let
me.
E
E
Infrastructure
needs
and
we're
using
this
6.5
total,
but
then
it
I
was
thinking
about
that
particular
item
the
radio
system,
and
then
I
was
thinking
about
the
reductions
we
made
to
swan
park,
amenities
and
the
gcc
improvements
that
that
we
took
off
the
list
in
order
to
kind
of
slim
down
and
shave
down
our
our
budget.
For
this,
and
so
now
I'm
wondering
where
do
those
projects
go?
Do
we
still
are
they
still
off
kind
of
on
the
to-do
list,
or
maybe
mary
could
help
explain
how
it
all
kind
of
plays
out.
B
B
But
we
are
looking
to
this
committee
and
to
council
to
prioritize
how
we're
using
this
6.5
million
most
immediately
but
I'll,
say
one
more
thing,
and
then
I
will
defer
to
regina
and
john
to
give
some
ideas
about
which
projects
on
this
list
that
make
up
the
6.5
million
could
be
reduced
at
this
point
to
then
fund
the
priorities
that
you
have
listed
or
that
other
counselors
have,
including
the
harrison
road
project.
One
more
thing
I
do
want
to
reiterate
is
what
john
romero
did
say
about
the
bond
premium.
B
This
is
additional
funding
that
we
have
that
we
will
be
bringing
forward
a
a
project
plan
as
well,
so
if
there
are
any
other
additional,
this
is
all
from
the
2018
grd
bond,
and
so
we
have
also
worked
with
our
bond
council
and
one
of
our
consultants
to
ensure
that
these
expenses
are
will
be
reimbursed.
B
We
can
pay
for
them
out
of
the
2018
got
bond.
So
everything
that
is
on
this
list,
we've
already
verified
that
with
our
attorney
bond
counsel,
our
attorney
as
well
as
our
cpa
consultant.
B
So
that
being
said,
we
do
still
have
another,
approximately
two
million
dollars
in
bond
premium-
that
this
team
will
be
bringing
forward
for
to
the
council
for
allocation
at
a
later
date.
As
john
did
mention,
we
didn't
want
to
mix
apples
and
oranges.
We
wanted
to
proceed
with
the
6.5
million
boost
immediately,
so
our
staff
can
get
to
work
on
putting
these
dollars.
You
know
into
putting
these
dollars
to
work.
L
Thank
you,
so
much
mary,
actually
john,
as
you
guys
know,
has
done
the
work
with
the
team
on
the
prioritization.
So
I
think
I'll.
Let
him
take
the
lead
on
the
conversation.
N
Okay,
thank
you
so,
mr
chair
counselors,
so
I
do
appreciate
your
flexibility,
because
this
this
will
be
a
reoccurring
theme
as
we
go
through
any
year.
You
know
different
things
come
up
and
we
just
have
to
be
kind
of
fluid
and
adjust.
N
I
think
to
fund
the
for
now
to
fund
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
radia,
the
fire.
The
emergency
radios
excuse
me
and
the
172
for
harrison
road.
I
think
a
good
place
to
pull
it
out
of
would
be
the
two
million
dollars
that
we
had
for
roof
repair
that
we
we
may
have
enough,
even
with
pulling
out
that
total
of
372
thousand
dollars.
N
As
we
get
better
estimates
for
the
roof
repair,
we
can
always
pull
money
from
another
priority
that
we
had.
Maybe
we
will
look
towards
that
bond
premium
if
we
have
those
figures
in
time
for
that,
but
if
I
could
suggest
that
if
this
gets
approved
it
gets
approved,
reducing,
let
me
get
the
exact
term
for
this:
the
roof
and
the
roof
repair
of
two
million
dollars.
You
reduce
that
by
372
000
dollars,
allocating
200
000
dollars
to
fire
department,
radios,
emergency
radios
and
172
000
to
harrison
sidewalk
and
lighting.
E
That
adjustment
sounds
fine
to
me
and
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
reallocation
that
we
did
do
in
order
to
kind
of
re-scope.
E
N
Then
yeah,
so
those
are
good
questions.
So
what
I,
what
I
tried
to
do
with
this
process
was
to
try
to
break
it
up
is
what
we
first
heard
several
months
ago
was
what
projects
we
could
re-prioritize
put
off
and
why
and
then
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
revisit.
That
now
is
where
we're
looking
to
put
all
that
money
that
we
freed
up
so
that
we
were
not
digesting
so
much
at
once.
N
But
if
you
have
any
specific
questions
for
any
of
the
projects
that
got
defunded
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
them,
including
anything
at
hanover
chavez.
Any
questions
you
have
regarding
that.
E
Yeah,
I
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
our
bases,
I'm
sure
you
all
are
doing-
that.
I
just
didn't-
want
those
to
get
lost
in
the
mix
and
again
they
may
be
more
enhancement,
stuff
versus
safety
issues.
So
I'd
rather
us
prioritize
the
safety
issues
that
and
I'm
assuming
the
list
you
gave
us
this
new
list.
N
Yes,
definitely
so
you
know
using
hanover
chavez
and
as
an
example,
we
from
g's
triple
c,
we
removed
a
little
over
356
thousand
dollars,
and
so
what
we're
not
doing
for
now
and
we're
placing
on
hold
is
that
as
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
pool
room
and
window
painting,
we
thought
it's
an
aesthetic
thing
that
has
no
safety
or
structural,
no
immediate
need
based
off
of
a
safety
and
or
structural
need.
We
did
250
000
that
was
out
of
hanover
chavez,
that
was
for
structural
painting.
N
N
It
had
no
structural,
it
didn't
reduce
the
structural
integrity
of
the
building,
so
we
thought
we
didn't
need
to
do
that
immediately
and
then
we
another
thing
we
did
is:
we
did
removed
about
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
with
the
full
tile
repairs,
which
again,
we
didn't
deem
to
be
necessary
examples
of
necessary
safety
and
or
operating
things
that
we're
looking
to
do
right
now
again,
you
know
signal,
sign
and
pain
is
an
easy
one.
N
For
me
to
explain,
because
I'm
very
familiar
with
it,
but
it's
just
basic
maintenance
of
our
signs,
a
stop
sign
gets
knocked
down.
We
got
to
replace
a
signal.
Bulb
goes
out,
we
got
to
re
well,
it
doesn't
operate
because
the
the
cabinet's
not
working,
we
got
to
repair
the
cabinet
with
equipment.
N
Other
things
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
refurbish
the
sandoval
parking
lot
elevator,
which
needs
to
happen
before
it
becomes
inoperable.
You
know
so
those
type
of
things.
So
definitely
I
can
go
in
more
detail,
but
it
is
to
re-prioritize
towards
things
that
may
not
only
be
a
safety
concern,
but
just
a
a
an
infrastructure
need
that
without
it
it
would
compromise
our
ability
to
deliver
services
to
the
community.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
john.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
your
recommendation,
so
you
said
reducing
the
roof
repair
by
372
thousand
200
000
to
emergency
radio,
which
we
talked
about
and
then
172
000
to
harrison,
but
does
that?
Would
that
also
still
include
that
100
000
that
had
been
unassigned
also
going
to
harrison.
N
Mr
chair
counselors,
so
that
would
be
in
lieu
of
the
original
suggestion
of
pulling
it
out
of
miscellaneous
capital
improvements.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
leave
that
100
000
of
miscellaneous
capital
there.
I
was
okay
with
moving
it
out
initially,
but
we
were
gonna
have
to
replace
it
and
again
that's
for
miscellaneous
capital
needs
that
come
up.
You
know
door
breaks
and
we
gotta
fix
it.
The
push
button
for
the
for
ada
accessibility,
a
boiler
goes
out
things
like
that.
N
You
know
we
need
that
kind
of
slush
fund
to
to
be
able
to
react
to
those
type
of
things
at
a
moment's
notice.
E
I
moved
to
approve
the
what
are
we
calling
this
sorry
capital,
reallocation,
budget
amendment,
including
200
000,
for
the
public
safety
radio
system
and
172
000
for
harrison
road
improvements.
A
In
the
motion,
mr
romero,
did
you
want
us
to
make
that
clear
in
the
motion?
Please
do
so.
A
A
Q
A
F
You,
mr
chair,
mr
chair
and
mr
randall,
I
so
my
questions
here
hold
on.
Let
me
just
get
to
that
place.
The
amounts
don't
seem
to
line
up,
and
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
walk
through
these
with
us.
So
on
page
one
it
says
so
that
memo
is
dated
march
27
2020
and
it
says
under
item
paragraph.
F
The
amount
of
this
amendment
is
125
000,
including
grt,
and
will
be
available
on
july,
1st
2019,
assuming
that
should
say
2020.
F
F
This
is
amendment
number
two
correct,
mr
chair,
counselor,
that's
correct,
okay,
and
it
says
here
amendment
number
two
is
150
000,
so
that
125
didn't
get
fixed
right.
It
should
be
125
950.
Oh.
R
F
Okay,
all
right
good
and
then
jumping
down.
F
F
R
Mr
chair
counselor
romero
worth
the
the
second
the
the
front.
Amendment
three
is
the
correct
one.
The
second
amendment
three
was
put
in
back
in
march
before
our
budget
process
and
it's
the
one
that
had
legal
approval.
So
we
were
advised
when
the
budget
moved
the
amendment
from
150
contemplated
to
125,
and
we
were
advised
to
put
in
both
amendments
to
show
that
it,
the
form,
had
legal
approval,
but
the
actual
one
being
approved
is
the
amount
of
125..
R
F
Okay-
and
I
assume
mr
chair
and
mr
randall,
that
you
were
when
you
say
you
were
told
by
the
city
attorney's
office,.
F
Okay,
I
I
just
I
I
do
find
it
confusing.
So
thanks
for
the
clarification,
mr
chair,
move,
a
do
pass.
F
A
F
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
chair,
mr
randall
same
kind
of
question
here,
so
this
contract
is
for
forty,
five
thousand
and
and
you're
probably
going
to
tell
me
about
the
same
thing.
F
It
has
two
different
contract
amendments,
one
for
forty
five
thousand
one
for
fifty
thousand,
and
I
assume
it's
the
same
answer
as
the
last
one
in
terms
of
the.
Why
one
reads
one
way
and
the
other
reads
another
way.
R
Mr
chair
counselor
romero
worth
we
are
consistent
in
our
confusion.
Yes,
it
is
exactly
the
same
situation.
F
Okay
and
then
I
was
just
just
checking
that
all
those
numbers
are
right.
Sorry
takes
a
minute
for
the
pages
to
load.
Okay,
I
I
think
they
all
line
up
then
now
hold
on
one
more
okay,
mr
cherry
move
do
pass
on
this
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
randall.
Sorry
to
keep
you.
S
F
C
D
The
question
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
have
we
put
this
out
to
bid.
We
got
a
couple
of
bits.
One
of
the
bids
is
in
well
in
every
category
more
money
than
the
other
bid
and
in
numerous
categories
it's
almost
twice
as
much
as
the
other
bid.
Why
do
why
do
we
want
to
keep
both
of
them
in
this
as
contractors?
D
And,
secondly,
how
would
we
direct
our
business
to
the
smi
rather
than
nelly's
cleaning
service
noise?
Cleaning
service
is
terribly
more
expensive.
T
T
So
therefore,
because
we
said
a
multiple
award,
we
didn't
reduce
it
to
a
single
award,
so
we
allow
the
choice
because
it's
on
call,
they
may
call
significant
cheaper
one
which
we
saw,
which
is
almost
half
the
price
right.
So
if
you
notice
the
highest
price
is
local,
which
is
in
santa
fe
and
the
lowest
is
in
albuquerque,
so
that
was
also
consideration
of
the
difference
in
prices
for
some
reason
just
55
miles
away.
It
seems
like
we're
more
expensive
here
in
santa
fe,
but
it
was
called
for
a
multiple
award.
T
D
Have
the
option
of
having
people
call
smi
prior
to
calling
nellie's.
D
Why
do
why?
Don't
we
do
that?
Why
why
don't
we
I
mean
like
on
equipment,
materials
they're
over
on
equipment
and
materials
they're
over
five
times
as
much.
D
We
can
we
can
send
it
out
for
every
bid,
I'm
really
not
comfortable
with
this,
the
way
that
it
has
come
back
to
us.
Secondly,
we
don't
have
a
a
maximum
on
this
and
it's
renewable
for
three
years
right.
D
T
This
is
the
first
city-wide
price
agreement.
That's
ever
been
processed,
we
don't
cap
price
agreements
because
they
don't.
If
we
cap
it,
then
we're
saying
you
have
to
use
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars.
They
may
not
use
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
fiscal
year.
They
may
use
two
thousand
dollars
for
the
fiscal
year.
So
that's
why
you
don't
cap
a
price
agreement.
They
may
not
use
every
single
service
that's
available
in
there.
That's
why
it's
itemized.
They
may
use
certain
services.
T
I
understand
that
you
feel
uncomfortable
when
you're
saying
that,
but
they
will
open
a
purchase
order,
utilizing
this
price
agreement
at
the
cost
of
the
of
each
individual
price
right,
so
they
would
itemize
their
purchase
order.
It
gives
them
the
ability
to
use
this
purchase
order
without
having
to
go
for
a
contract
or
again,
like
you
said
we
can
reissue
it,
but
we
did
issue
it.
We
did
a
competitive
process.
This
is
what
we
got
back.
It
was
advertised,
it
was
open.
T
D
All
right
I
get
it,
but
so
how
would
we
have
any
control
over
someone?
I'm
not
sure
who
would
issue
a
request
for
these
services
like
how
that
would
come
about
and
how
we
would
I
mean,
how
do
we
have
any
any
control
at
all
in
like
if
someone
says
oh
well,
we
need
janitorial
services
over
here,
and
you
know
I
I
know
nelly's
cleaning,
I'm
I'm
just
gonna
write
a
purchase
order
for
them.
We
don't
have
any
control
over
that.
Do
we.
A
On
that
point,
though,
counselor
and
dell
and
mary,
but
if
you,
if
you're
the
department
and
you
you
propose
to
use
that
more
expensive
one,
then
you'd
run
out
of
budget
sooner,
and
so
that
may
be.
We
are
the
downside
to
doing
that
or
the
the
motivation
for
not
using
the
more
expensive
company,
because
you
would
you
know
you
would
be
able
to.
I
mean
you'd
exhaust
your
budget.
Basically
right
or
am
I
wrong.
B
Mr
terror
counselors,
yes,
that
is
correct.
What
fran
is
putting
forward
today
is
for
a
city-wide
price
agreement,
it's
very
similar
to
the
state
price
agreements
that
all
of
our
departments
use.
You
know
and
bring
forward
to
you
if
there's
a
contract
that
comes
forward
and
fran
has
listed,
that
it's
a
statewide
price
agreement.
This
gives
departments
multiple
different
options,
for
example.
B
This
is
on
call
so
for
some
reason,
the
santa
fe
company
was
not
available,
but
we
did
need
these
services
immediately.
We
would
have
a
second
option
since
the
second,
because
it
was
a
multiple
award.
But,
mr
chairman,
you
are
correct
that
the
department
chooses
to
go
with
the
most
expensive
option
on
the
price
agreement
that
we're
putting
forward
today
they
would
have
those
dollars
would
would
wouldn't
go
as
far
as
the
less
expensive
option.
D
I
appreciate
it,
I
I'm
sure
I
feel
positive,
that
this
request
was
proper
and
that
the
bids.
D
That,
on
our
end,
this
was
all
done
properly,
I'm
totally
sure
of
that,
I'm
just
not
at
all
comfortable
with
us
having
one
contractor
that
costs
two
times
as
much
as
the
other
contractor
and
having
no
policy
in
place
to
contact
the
less
expensive
contractor
first,
and
I
think
I
understand
how
this
works,
but
there's
just
too
much
distance
there
for
me
to
be
comfortable
with
it
I
mean
if
it
was
10
percent.
D
You
know
20
percent,
that's
one
thing,
but
I
mean
it's
twice
as
much
and
in
some
places,
500
percent,
that
that
doesn't
seem
that
that
doesn't
make
good
fiscal
sense
to
me.
So
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
and
I
hope
we
don't
spend
our
money
unwisely.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mr
taran
fran.
So
if,
if
it
were
put
out
to
re-bid
what
what
might
change
just
that,
we
thought
it
was
too
expensive
and
therefore
the
bidders
might
lower
their
price
or
like.
How
do
you
know?
You're
gonna
get
that
it's
worth
the
staff
time
to
put
it
back
out
and
and
that
you'll
get
a
different
result.
T
Mr
chair
and
council
woman
romero
worth
so
the
different
result,
and
I
think
what
happened
is
because
we
did
put
this
out
as
an
on-call
during
the
pandemic
right
when
everything
it
was
on-call,
janitorial
services,
it
was
needed.
The
best
way
to
do
it
was
go
out
for
bid.
So
we
did
that
we
did
this
right
as
the
pandemic
hit,
because
the
services
were
needed
right.
We
needed
on-call
janitorial
services
for
them
to
get
right
in
clean
the
multiple
buildings,
so
we
did
it
as
a
10-day.
T
Okay,
we
advertised
it
for
10
days
as
as
permitted
by
law.
Okay
in
the
procurement
code,
it
says
that
we
can
advertise
for
10
days
and
that's
exactly
what
we
did.
We
did.
The
most
minimal
advertisement,
which
was
for
10
full
days,
received
two
bids,
did
the
multiple
awards
so
that
we
could
get
the
services,
so
we
could
get
the
services
started
as
of
july
1
right,
so
that
was
the
intent
of
it.
T
So
if
we
go
out
for
a
re-bid
it
it,
it
does
make
more
sense,
and
I
do
see
council,
I
do
see
counselor
lindell's,
you
know
to
me
as
well.
It
was
like
half
the
price,
it
was
just
you
know
insane.
So
if
we
go
out
and
we
do
the
competitive
process
for
a
longer
advertised
it
for
a
longer
time,
I
think
that
we
would
get
multiple
bids
rather
than
just
two
and
we
did
line
up
with
two,
because
that's
why
I
always
say
longer
is
better.
I
know
people
rush
rush
rush
right.
T
F
So
how
do
we
know,
mr
chair
and
fran,
that
you
won't
that
the
cost
of
these
kinds
of
services
now
has
gone
up
because
of
the
demand
for
them,
and
we
could
end
up
actually
paying
more
for
both?
Well,
I
mean
that
the
price
that
the
price
point
has
just
gone
to
the
higher
bidder
anyway,.
T
Mr
chair
councilwoman
romero
worth.
We
can
actually
still
continue
to
keep
this
this
price
agreement
in
place.
While
we
issue
it
out
for
a
bit
again,
it
can
stay
in
place.
So
if
there
we
can
keep
the
lowest
bidder
that
we
have
right
now
and
keep
them,
and
then
we
can
do
another
award
as
a
multiple
award
to
the
price
agreement.
F
Okay,
and
then
I
guess
my
other
question,
mr
chair
and
fran
is
so
I
think
counselor
lindell
was
looking
for
a
limiting
factor
in
in
how
we
would
use
these
this
price
agreement,
and
I
I
think
this
was
suggested,
but
I
want
to
just
state
it.
F
I
guess
clearly
is
that
so
across
the
city
different
department,
budgets
are
are
allocated
for
janitorial
services
and
that's
what
we're
spending
on
janitorial
services
so
that
we've
kind
of
already
approved
what
we're
spending
on
janitorial
services
and
that
that
kind
of
ca
in
a
way
caps
it,
because
that's
what
we've
approved.
Therefore,
that's
what
they
can
spend
on
it.
Correct.
T
Mr
chair
council,
councilwoman
romero
worth
you
are
correct,
so
another
way
that
we
can
track
it.
We
do
have
tracking
purposes
in
state.
You
know,
because
we
went
ahead
and
issued
this
city-wide.
This
is
the
first
city-wide
price
agreement.
That's
been
that
I
hope
to
god
is
awarded
right
so
that
we
can
be
able
to
track
it
when
they
issue
a
purchase
order
against
the
city-wide
agreement
and,
if
they're,
using
the
more
expensive
contractor
in
this
case
we
can
track
it.
We
can
require
what
you
know.
T
They
can
do
a
justification
as
to
why
they're
using
them.
They
will
also
be
advised
that
by
using
the
the
actual
contractor,
that
is
a
lot
more.
They
will,
as
chair
chairman,
romana
beta,
said,
use
their
budget
much
more
quickly,
so
it
can
be
tracked
and
we
can,
you
know,
find
out
why
they
want
to
just
pick
the
more
expensive
one
right,
but
in
the
meantime
we
can
still
go
out
for
a
longer
solicitation.
T
A
There's
on
that
point,
though,
ms
dunaway,
right
now,
if
we
don't
have
a
city-wide
price
agreement,
departments
could
use
whoever
they
want,
and
we
might
not
even
know
about
it.
Is
that
what
you're
getting
at?
Because
we
don't
have
the
city-wide
and
then
this
way
you
could
at
least
see
that
hey
they
keep
using
this
company
they're
going
to
run
out
of
money
where
right
now
they
could
use
this
company
now
and
we
wouldn't
even
know
and
pay
these
higher
prices.
Is
that
right,
correct
they
can
get
one
quote
and
do
an.
F
Yeah-
and
I
guess
I
just
would,
as
we
all
know,
the
demand
for
these
services
in
this
public
health
crisis
is
obviously
very
important
and
something
we're
going
to
be
spending
money
on.
Thank
you
for
those
answers.
That's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
You
councilwoman
to
be
royale.
You,
mr
chair,
just
to
follow
up
on
this
miss
dunaway
about
the
advantages
of
having
a
citywide
price
agreement.
E
Does
that
then
allow
for
companies
to
bundle
different
aspects
of
this
kind
of
work
versus
having
different
companies
that
do
different
pieces
like
what
we
consider
janitorial
service,
I
guess
where
I'm
getting
at
is:
is
that
an
advantage
for
companies
like
this?
That
is
way
expensive,
that
counselor
lindell
brought
up?
Is
this
then
eliminating
possibilities
for
small
businesses
to
be
considered?
For,
like
maybe
pieces
of
this,
mr
chair.
T
T
We
didn't
get
those
and,
like
I
said
I
do
think
the
effect
on
it
was
doing
that
10-day
bid
process.
You
know
and
then,
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
a
lot
of
businesses
closed
down.
They
weren't
really
sure
so
now
that
we're
coming
to
at
least
I
wouldn't
even
say
that,
but
at
least
like
a
you
know
a
bit
of
normalcy,
I
guess
you
could
call
it
now
that
that's
happening.
T
I
think
if
we
reissue
it
we're
gonna
get
a
lot
more
local
respondents
and
that's
really
what
I'm
I'm
looking
for
is
that
the
local
cleaning
companies
right,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
paying
for
travel
per
diem.
E
And
then
I
guess
the
other
question
is:
how
do
we
prevent
what
I
see
as
price
gouging?
I
kind
of
feel
like
that's
a
price,
gouging
movida,
and
so
what
I'm
wondering
is
if
we
have
the
level
that
we're
looking
at
that's
so
much
higher.
How
does
that
create
a
higher
price
ceiling
precedent
for
us
and
for
other
businesses?
E
T
T
T
T
T
Okay,
a
lot
of
businesses
started
closing,
and
that's
just
my
thought,
and
I
can't
give
my
personal
feelings
on
the
procurement,
but
I
would
be
you
know
to
be
honest
and
I'm
not
going
to
paint
unicorns
and
rainbows.
I
won't
do
that.
I
do
think
that
they
gave
their
highest
cost
because
they
were
local
okay.
T
So
I
I'm
all
for
going
out
for
another
itb.
I
have
no
problems
with
that.
However,
I
do
got
to
keep
them
because
they
did.
You
know
they
did
follow
the
process.
I
just
we
can
cancel
their
bid.
I'm
sorry.
We
can't
cancel
the
price
agreement
because
of
the
budget
that
we
can
do
that.
We
can
give
them
a
30-day
notice
that
we're
counseling,
but
we
are
going
out
for
re-solicitation
and
then
they
can
bid
again
and
maybe
come
back
at
a
lower
cost.
E
Okay,
that
sounds
more
reasonable.
To
me,
I
mean
we
have
those
as
those
two
possibilities,
but
to
re
to
do
another
solicitation,
makes
sense
and
giving
other
local
businesses
an
opportunity
to
be
part
of
the
package,
not
package,
but
the
price
agreement,
because
we
can
have
up
to
how
many
as
part
of
the
price
agreement.
T
It
just
depends
it
just
you
know,
but
on
that
note
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
doing
commodity
code
alterations
so
for
the
commodity
codes,
vendors
register
for
the
commodity,
so
for
the
janitorial
services,
I'm
I'm
almost
positive.
We
have
multiple
vendors,
local
vendors
that
are
registered
in
our
system
for
this
type
of
service.
We
can
pull
that
and
ensure
that
they
get
the
bid.
Okay.
E
That
that's
great,
I
think
that
makes
sense,
and
I
think
my
colleague
for
bringing
this
up,
because
I
looked
at
that
and
I
didn't
think
that
we
had
an
ability
to
open
it
up
again,
but
seeing
hearing
you
saying
that
that
makes
sense
and
that
you
can
do
it
and
we'll
just
keep
these
two
options
available
as
well,
I
think,
is
the
best
route.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
help.
Thanks.
A
Ms
dunaway,
I
just
an
observation:
this
is
the
local
company.
That's
higher.
We
do
have
a
living
wage.
A
That
is,
I
think,
a
little
over
twelve
dollars
an
hour
right
now
compared
to
what
the
albuquerque
company
pays
plus,
given
the
fact
that
we're
in
covid,
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
these
employees
aren't
getting
hazard
pay
because
they
are
going
into
facilities
that
and
exposing
themselves
potentially
to
covid
and
the
industry
standard
for
hazard
pay
is
25,
so
it
might
be
possible
that
the
higher
price
right
now
is,
as
you
said
in
the
way
beginning
is
because
of
covid,
and
they
may
be
paying
their
employees
25
on
top
of
the
living
wage,
and
maybe
that
had
something
to
do
plus
as
far
as
the
equipment.
A
The
difference
may
be
too,
if
they,
the
the
sanitation
machines,
that
they're
selling
now
cost
thousands
of
dollars,
but
they
can
disinfect
a
room
within
you
know
like
two
or
three
minutes,
and
so
I
it
would
be
interesting
to
find
out,
as
you
continue
to
move
along
is
how
much
of
this
is
impacted
by
covid
and
and
the
type
of
cleaning
that
that
is
going
to
be
required
and
again
the
hazard
that
they're
putting
their
employees
in
or
exposing
them
to.
Mr
chair,
if
that's
the
case.
E
T
A
Okay,
what
is
the
pleasure
of
the
committee.
D
I
I
have
a
quick
question:
chair,
miss
donahue.
How
would
we
do
we
need
to
ask
to
have
it
re-bid,
or
can
you
take
the
initiative
to
do
that?
How
does
that
work.
T
Mr
terror,
council,
woman
lindell,
yes,
what
will
happen
is
I
we
have
to
keep
the
current
one,
the
price
agreement
right
because
they
did
respond
to
the
specifications.
They
responded
correctly
to
the
specifications.
However,
it
is
slightly
higher
if
we
want
to
cancel
it.
I
have
to
give
a
30-day
notice
and
then
reissue
a
bid.
So
for
a
good
few
months
we
will
be
left
without
a
price
agreement
for
this
service.
T
So
this
is
why
I
feel
it's
very
important
that
we
approve
it
at
this
point
and
then
keep
it
and
then
reissue
the
bid
and
include
these
additional
specifications
and
then
once
we
include
these
additional
specifications
put
it
out
for
bid.
We
can
cancel
the
current
price
agreement.
Okay,
so.
D
Would
it
be
a
reasonable
motion
to
move
for
approval
with
the
additional
direction
to
put
this
out
for
a
re-bid.
D
Okay,
so
that's
my
motion
is
that
we
approve
this
with
the
additional
direction
to
put
it
out
for
a
rebid.
Second.
E
Mr
chair,
just
a
quick,
quick
clarification,
the
one
the
two
groups
that
we
have,
I
mean
the
two
companies
that
we
have
selected.
We
can't
ask
them
additional
specifications
like
we
just
mentioned
about
hazard,
pay,
etc.
T
A
B
A
D
S
Counseling
dell,
mr
chair,
so
the
price
per
gallon
that
we
pay
is
the
market
value
at
the
time
of
the
purchase
in
our
current
policy
for
the
wex
fuel
card,
we
direct
our
personnel
to
use
the
most
cost-effective
price
while
making
those
purchases
for
probably
the
majority
of
our
vehicles,
that's
going
to
be
the
standard
fuel
that
they
would
need
to
use,
with
the
exception
of
the
motorcycles
that
need
a
higher
octane
fuel
for
that
and
as
for
the
premiums
that
we
pay,
we
actually
get
an
eight
percent
savings
to
fill
up
with
wax
through
them,
and
that
is
part
of
the
the
purchase
agreement
that
we
have
with.
D
S
Counseling
down
mr
chair,
that's
correct,
and
the
benefit
to
this
is
just
dependent
on
the
market
value,
as
we
see
right
now,
we're
actually
having
a
cost
savings
because
of
the
low
fuel
prices
right
now,
but
in
contrast
to
purchasing
it
in
bulk,
where
we
would
do
it
at
the
styler
lot,
depending
on
whenever
you
purchase
it,
it
may
be
a
higher
value,
which
we
saw
at
one
point
where
we
paid
more
for
the
fuel
and
then
the
market
value
was
less
so
it's
more
market
value
than
we
get
to
make
that
purchase.
S
Councilman
dal,
mr
chair,
beyond
just
the
price
benefit
the
other
benefit
as
well.
If
you've
ever
been
to
the
silo
lot,
when
we
used
to
utilize
them,
there's
only
about
four
pumps
there
that
you
can
utilize.
So
if
you
have
to
refuel
vehicles
that
takes
quite
a
bit
of
time
to
make
that
happen.
Secondly,
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
city,
so
if
you're
at
a
scene,
that's
on
the
north
side,
south
side
or
nowhere
in
proximity
to
that
location,
then
you
have
to
go
to
that
location.
S
Taking
off
that
scene
having
to
go,
there
then
go
back,
and
that
was
an
issue
that
we
saw
as
well
during
that
time.
In
addition,
when
that
site
does
go
down
for
maintenance
or
there's
a
failure
with
a
pump,
we'd
have
to
go
and
get
market
value
from
a
local
gas
station
that
the
sire
lot
would
identify
and
we
would
not
benefit
from
that.
Eight
percent
cost
with
that.
Basically,
we've
seen
so
far
with
wex.
It
allows
us
to
manage
our
gas
purchases
and
to
monitor
them.
S
So
we
can
see
what
the
cost
is
per
officer
without
having
wex
we'd
have
to
get
the
documents
from
the
silo
lot
by
the
individuals
that
manage
the
fuel
purchases
to
get
that
card
information.
D
So
is
the
wax
card
usable
at
every
gas
station.
S
Council
nadal,
mr
chair,
yes,
but
the
purchase
can
only
be
for
fuel
for
the
ones
that
are
issued
to
make
those
purchases
with
the
fuel
card.
D
S
Counselor
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
agreement
that
we
have
I'm
going
to
speak
about
tax,
but
I'll
get
some
clarification.
I
do
believe
that
it
does
benefit
us.
We
do
make
the
purchase
within
the
city
before
we
get
that
purchase
back,
but
I
can
get
that
information
and
clarify
that,
for
you.
D
Okay,
you
know
it
would
be
nice
if
we
would
have
it
as
a
policy
to
make
our
purchases
within
the
city
so
that
the
city
could
benefit
from
the
gross
receipts
tax
and
the
gas
tax
that
we've
passed
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
That
would
seem
like
not
really
very
much
to
ask
to
do.
That.
Is
that
something
you
could
look
into.
S
Counseling
down
mr
chair,
so
there
are
mechanisms
in
place
to
run
issues
with
fraud,
so
they
have
so
many
attempts
they
can
have
in
a
day
to
purchase
fuel.
In
addition,
we
do
an
audit
of
the
fuel
usage
monthly
to
see
if
there's
any
anomalies
or
any
suspicious
activity
on
those,
and
if
we
would
see
there's
a
high
fuel
usage.
We'd
have
them
validate
why
that
occurred.
S
In
most
instances,
that
would
be
out
of
character
of
use,
but
in
some
instances
you
may
see
that
there's
an
increase
for
daily
use
and
maybe,
as
a
result
of
either
them
having
to
fuel
up
vehicles
for
an
operation
or
if
they're,
fueling,
up
mbts
and
so
on.
So
with
some
users,
they
are
tasked
with
doing
those
refuels
for
those
mbts
or
for
other
vehicles
for
certain
operations.
S
Councilman
down
mr
chair:
yes
ma'am,
they
do
so
they
have
the
generator
that
charges
up
the
battery
during
evening
hours
to
make
sure
has
enough
power,
and
it
also
utilizes
solar
power
as
well.
To
supplement
that
energy.
D
D
I
would
like
to
have
you
come
back
to
us
and,
and
let
us
know
if
we
could
have
a
policy
of
fueling
within
the
city
limits.
It
would
be
beneficial
to
the
city
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
it
should
be,
that
much
of
an
inconvenience.
E
Councilwoman
via
royale.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
actually
agree
with
my
colleague
about
that.
I'd
really
like
to
look
at
how,
for
the
very
least
that
our
the
gas
tax
goes
to
benefit
the
city.
The
other
question
I
had,
I
think
it
was
in
there,
but
I
couldn't
find
it.
The
officers
are
they
required
to
keep
receipts
of
the
gas
purchases.
S
Mr
chair
counselor
gardeal,
no,
it's
tracked
via
the
card
and
we
get
the
statement
to
the
end
of
each
month
and
we
can
look
at
what
the
purchases
are,
so
they
don't
have
to
come
and
turn
in
a
bunch
of
receipts
or
have
to
print
them.
So
that
saves
a
little
bit
of
time
and
even
paper
for
the
receipts
as
well,
but
we're
able
to
track
the
activity
on
those
cards.
S
No
counselor
with
that
statement
it
shows
every
purchase.
The
location
took
place
at
how
much
fuel
was
purchased,
what
the
cost
was
and
how
many
gallons
that
were
purchased
with
that.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
F
S
Mr
sure,
mr
councillor
romero
worth
we
do
have
that
data.
I
can
see
how
long
it'll
take
us
to
gather
all
that
to
do
a
comparison
of
purchases
made
in
the
city
versus
those
outside
the
city.
Just
would
get
a
snapshot
of
that.
D
Could
that
be
sent
to
everyone
on
the
committee?
Please.
D
M
Okay,
so
sure,
yes,
on
that
point,
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
we
had
a
recent
power
surge
at
the
fuel
station
and
at
the
fuel
pump
on
seiler
and
it
fried
some
important
components.
M
M
That
is
the
possibility
in
order
to
deal
with
this
fuel
station
problem.
I
just
wanna.
A
Give
you
an
fyi
okay,
so
yeah,
if
you
can
just
give
us
an
update,
if
not
actually
what
happens.
Ultimately,
that
would
be
appreciated.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
that
concludes
the
items
on
the
consent
calendar.
We
don't
have
any
action
items.
Item
number
nine
is
presentation,
and
our
first
presentation
is
a
review
of
the
fiscal
impact
report
associated
with
bill
number
2020-20,
which
is
our
ordinance
related
to
reorganization.
A
It
was
prepared
by
the
city
manager,
the
finance
director,
the
human
and
the
human
resources
director
there's
a
summary
that
describes
the
bill,
which
is
proposing
to
amend
the
city's
code
to
reflect
the
organizational
chart
included
in
the
mayor's
2021
budget.
Specifically,
it
creates
the
community
development
department,
which
will
include
the
office
of
affordable
housing.
A
Economic
development,
tourism
and
arts,
and
culture
creates
a
community
health
and
safety
department
to
include
the
police,
fire
office
of
emergency
management,
recreation
and
community
services.
The
bill
also
assigns
oversight
and
administration
of
the
constituent
and
council
relations
department
to
the
city
clerk's
office.
In
addition,
it
removes
from
the
code
a
city
department
that
had
not
existed
for
years.
That
was
still
included
in
the
code,
which
was
a
housing
and
community
development
department
and
one
that
will
no
longer
exist
as
a
department.
A
After
the
reorganization,
it
adds
an
existing
department
that
was
not
previously
included
in
code,
specifically
the
information
technology
and
telecommunications
department,
so
the
departments
affected
are
the
city,
clerk's
office,
constituent
council
relations,
parks
and
recreation.
Public
works,
community
services,
fire
police,
emergency
management,
economic
development,
land
use,
affordable
housing,
tourism
and
arts
and
culture.
There's
a
consequences
in
the
fir
of
not
enacting
legislation.
There's
bullet
points
that
that
list,
those
under
conflict,
duplication,
companionship
or
relationship
to
other
legislation.
A
The
bill
will
remove
several
existing
conflicts
between
code
and
operations
and
does
not
add
any
new
conflicts.
There
is
a
statement
regarding
performance
and
administrative
implications
under
the
reorganization
proposal.
Out
of
an
organization
of
over
50
positions,
only
13
individuals
roles
are
directly
impacted
by
the
reorg.
A
The
number
of
employees
in
the
supervisory
role,
including
directors,
does
not
increase.
The
current
percentage
of
non-supervisory
employees
is
82
percent
and
the
current
percentage
of
supervisory
employees
is
18.
No
city
employees
under
the
level
of
director
are
having
their
wages
or
benefits
impacted.
No
union
member
salaries
or
benefits
were
impacted
fiscal
implications.
A
The
changes
proposed
in
this
bill
will
increase
the
salaries
and
benefits
category
by
thousand
one
hundred
twenty
one
dollars
the
fy
twenty
one
approved
budget
includes
the
funding
for
the
twenty
thousand
one
hundred
twenty
one
dollars
in
salaries
and
benefits.
The
governing
body
unanimously
approved
the
fy
twenty
one
budget
at
the
governing
body,
meeting
on
7,
29
20
and
subsequently
dfa
certified
the
fy
21
budget
in
august
of
2020.
A
So
that's
the
fiscal
impact
report.
I
will
start
us
off
with
questions.
My
first
questions
are
for
the
human
resources
director
and
I
want
to
start
with
the
proposed
organizational
chart.
A
So,
ms
salazar,
are
you
there.
A
U
Mr
chairman,
the
current
director
will
continue
to
remain
the
supervisor
of
those
employees.
U
I
would
have
to
go
to
a
different
chart.
I
don't
have
that
one
right
in
front
of
me,
but
that
number
would
remain
the
same.
A
Okay,
so
the
finance
department
we
have
accounting
and
accounts
payable
budget
fleet
grants,
management,
payroll
purchasing
and
contract
risk
and
treasury
are
any
of
those
divisions
being
impacted
by
this
reorganization
and
any
of
those
employees.
U
Mr
chairman,
the
structure
of
the
finance
department
under
the
proposed
reorganization
is
not
being
affected.
U
Mr
chairman,
no
through
the
budget
process,
there
was
discussion
about
the
grants
management,
but
that's
not
part
of
the
reorg.
A
U
Mr
chairman,
the
only
change
again,
which
is
not
part
of
the
reorg
but
was
part
of
the
budget,
was
moving
three
safety
positions
to
the
emergency
management
area.
A
Change:
okay,
information
technology
has
infrastructure,
end-user
services
and
enterprise
applications
are
any
of
those
employees
going
to
be
directly
affected
by
this
reorg.
A
U
Mr
chairman,
the
only
employee
who
will
be
affected
is
the
director
who
will
report
to
a
different
director
now
and.
U
A
U
U
I
would
say
approximately
five
again:
I
apologize,
I
don't
have.
I
have
a
bunch
of
charts
open
here.
That's
not
one
of
them.
A
Okay
and
then,
and
their
their
supervisor
could
is
gonna,
be
the
community
development
department
director
right.
That's
that's
what
we
heard
through
this
process.
A
A
Okay
and
then
will
they
still
be
reporting
directly
to
the
planning
and
land
use
director.
A
A
U
Mr
chairman,
I
would
again
I
don't
have
that
chart
right
in
front
of
me.
I
can
get
you
the
exact
number,
but
I
would
say
it's
approximately
50
employees.
I
see
city
manager,
jerrell
le
pen
hill
with
her
hand
up.
V
I'm
I'm
referring
to
a
document
that
was
shared
by
mary
mccoy
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
It's
the
one
page
with
the
crosswalk
of
all
of
our
employees,
and
it
denotes
that
83
recreation
positions
from
parks
and
rec
would
be
moved
and
it
moves
it
transfers,
54
positions
from
parks
to
public
works.
V
No
54
of
the
146
I
apologize,
I
shouldn't,
have
brought
up
recreation,
so
54
out
of
the
100
parks
and
rec
as
a
whole
is
146.
mind
you.
These
are
positions,
positions
not
filled
spots,
which
are
more
likely.
The
numbers
that
bern's
been
giving.
U
Mr
chairman,
that
would
be
mr
munoz.
A
A
U
The
supervisor
will
remain
the
same.
A
U
Mr
chairman,
there
will
be
no
employees
affected
by
the
proposed
reorg
for
public
utilities.
A
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
approximately
1400
employees
in
the
city,
mr
chairman,
yes,
okay,
so
out
of
1400
employees.
If
someone
did
the
math,
what
I
just
came,
would
I
just
what
is
it
200
employees
are
going
to
be
affected.
A
One
two,
maybe
maybe
a
little
more,
I
mean
65,
54,
40,
45
and
then
five
in
economic
development.
If
you
can
say
that
they're
going
to
sell
the
same
boss,
three
and
arts
and
culture,
three
in
affordable
housing,
there's
three
safety,
employees
that
are
moving
and
then
the
constituent
service
staff,
which
I
think
is
four
or
five
employees.
U
Mr
chairman,
if
you
count
all
those
employees,
yes,
if
you
count
the
number
of
supervisory
changes,
it's
a
lot
less
than
that.
A
A
Okay
in
in
an
email
dated
august
4th,
the
city
manager
gave
us
old
organizational
charts
that
go
back
to
2003
and
if
we
just
stay,
if
we
just
stay
with
the
existing
organizational
chart,
which
is
the
fiscal
year
2020
org
chart,
it
shows
12
departments.
A
If
you
go
further,
if
you
go
to
fiscal
years,
the
org
charts
in
fiscal
year,
15
and
16-
and
I
can't
speak
to
that-
because
I
wasn't
on
the
council-
maybe
the
counselors,
who
were
here
in
15
and
16.-
and
you
compare
it
to
fiscal
year-
16
and
17-
they
actually
eliminated
or
consolidated
transportation
transportation
in
fy
1516
was
its
own
department,
it
included
transportation,
the
airport,
parking
and
transit
and
long-range
planning
was
in
community
development
and
then
the
next
year
they
created
a
deputy
manager
position.
A
They
put
constituent
services
under
there,
emergency
management,
the
pio
and
multimedia
asset
development
and
the
public
defender
on
transportation.
All
those
divisions
and
all
those
employees
were
moved
under
public
works,
and
I
don't
know,
was
there
what
kind
of
process
was
followed?
Was
it
the
same
process
we
went
through
now
where
there
was
a
reorg,
it
went
to
committee.
There
was
discussion
amongst
the
unions-
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
counselor
lindell
or
counselor
via
royale.
I
think
you're
on
the
council
during
that
time.
A
Do
you
remember
what
kind
of
process
was
followed
for
that?
I
wasn't
on
when
that
happened.
A
Okay
so
and,
like
I
said,
11
departments
were
affected
and
there
was
a
position
and
then,
if
you
go,
you
could
go
all
the
way
back
to
2003
and
you
can
see
that
there
were
the
org
charts
changed.
I
just
wonder
if
that
what
process
we
went
through
for
that
and
the
reason
I
I
I
did,
that
is
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about.
Oh
this
is
a
major
change.
A
Not
very
many
of
them
are
gonna
are
gonna,
be
there,
their
supervisors
aren't
changing
their
roles,
aren't
changing,
and
so
I
I
think
that
I
think
that
I
think
it's
been
blown
out
of
proportion.
Quite
frankly,
the
this
whole
reorg
discussion,
but
when
you
break
it
down
to,
like,
I
said,
what's
actually
being
proposed
and
then
again
I'll
say
this
and
I
I
said
it
in
the
way
beginning,
we
have
been
not
just
as
a
community
but
as
a
nation.
A
We
need
to
do
something
about
community
policing
and
our
response
to
policing,
and
I
don't.
I
think
this
is
a
good
first
step
by
putting
it
with
community
health
and
safety,
police
and
fire,
and
by
by
potentially
getting
a
good
director
and
community
health
and
safety
that
can
bring
these
these
six
departments
or
divisions
and
and
have
them
work
together
to
try
to
respond
to
the
to
the
current
environment
we
find
ourselves
in
and
I'm
I
also
want
to.
A
I
also
want
to
repeat
something
that
actually
counselor
garcia
had
said
early
on
during
the
budget
hearings,
when
the
concept
was
first
presented
to
us.
The
key
to
success
isn't
necessarily
where
you're
putting
the
the
boxes
but
who
you
put
at
the
top
of
the
these
organizations,
and
so
I
think
it's
gonna.
A
lot
of
this
is
gonna
depend
rightfully
so,
as
counselor
garcia
said,
who
we
put
and
what
vision
we
lay
out
for
them.
A
But
in
order
to
fill
these
roles,
they've
got
it
that
individual
needs
to
know
what
they
are
they
are
taking
over,
and
so
we
can't
do
that
unless
we
approve
this
reorg.
So
those
are
all
the
questions
and
comments
I
have
for
now
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
committee
councilwoman
romero
worth
you
have
your
hand
up.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
walking
us
through
that.
I
feel
like
that
helps
us
understand
some.
Some
of
the
comments
that
I
have
seen
about
this
reorganization
is
that
we
are
adding
bureaucracy
and
it's
top-heavy,
and
I
just
want
to
explore
that
idea
a
bit.
My
understanding
of
this
is
that
we
are
we're
taking
the
parks
and
rec
director
and
we
are
moving
part
of
that
department
under
an
another
department
and
we
are
moving
so
we're
taking
parks
and
we're
moving
it
over
to
public
works.
F
So
that's
not
adding
bureaucracy,
that's
actually
putting
a
department
under
an
existing
department,
and
then
we
have
the
recreation
department
and
where
that
department
is
actually
moving
down
the
chart
under
the
new
sorry
community
development
director,
so
we're
adding
a
community
development
director
and
we're
moving.
What
used
to
be
the
parks
and
rec
director
down,
so
we're
not
we're
sort
of
we're
chain
we're
trading
one
for
one
right,
so
I'm
just
and
and
and
everything
else
is
the
chair
has
just
outlined
for
us-
might
be
moving.
F
A
Where
we
are
city
manager,
do
you
want
to
address
that.
V
Chair
council
romeroworth,
thank
you
for
the
question
and
one
quick
point
of
clarification.
You're
right
parks,
parks
division
will
be
moving
under
public
works.
The
recreation
division
will
be
moving
under
community
health
and
safety
for
the
comments
by
per
this
discussion
over
the
last
eight
weeks.
That
was
one
of
the
changes
that
has
been
incorporated.
The
initial.
F
Proposal,
thank
you.
I'm
looking
at
the
presentation,
an
old
presentation,
so
thank
thanks
for
helping
me
there
all.
F
V
Ahead
so
the
way
you
articulated
it
is
correct
and
they
they
are
going.
We've
broken
up
a
department
and
putting
it
under
one
existing
and
one
new
umbrella
organization.
F
All
right,
thank
you,
and
then
I
got
an
email
earlier
today
with
another.
F
Revealed
problems
that
should
preclude
us
from
trying
to
make
changes
in
our
structure
to
be
more
effective,
efficient
and
I'm
just
curious,
maybe
mary.
You
can
speak
to
whether
our
audit
precludes
reorganization,
I
mean
and,
and
it's
my
understanding
that
actually
our
audit
has
led
us
to
make
changes
in
how
we
will
structure
our
department
so
that
we
can
address
some
of
the
issues
in
the
audit.
So
it
doesn't
seem
to
me.
I,
as
I
recall
the
presentation
about
the
audit,
there
wasn't
anything
in
in
there.
B
Mr
chair
counselor,
thank
you
for
the
question
the,
as
you
recall
from
the
audit
presentation
that
we
did
two
weeks
ago
in
front
of
the
finance
committee.
We
did
indicate
that
one
of
the
management
responses
part
of
the
corrective
action
for
these
several
grants-related
findings-
was
to
centralize
and
create
a
grants
management
division.
This
was
proposed
under
the
fy
21
budgets
that
this
committee
and
the
governing
body
heard
in
the
month
of
july.
B
So
with
that
proposal
we
are-
and
we've
discussed
this-
you
know
several
times,
but
just
to
reiterate,
we
are
making
sure
we
have
a
centralization
of
the
grants
process
from
the
pre-award
phase
to
any
type
of
post
award,
reconciliation
or
reporting.
So
that
is
one
area
where
moving
centralizing.
B
These
functions
is
really
a
direct
response
to
the
audit
and
a
really
necessary
one,
as
well.
By
being
able
to
hire
reclassify
the
physicians
and
hire
in
specifically
trained
grants-
accountants,
as
we've
discussed
in
this
committee
previously,
this
will
really
assist
the
organization
in
improving
upon
those
multiple
grants,
related
findings
and
and
improve
our
audits
in
future
years.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and,
and
while
while
I
have
you,
could
you
so
on
the
on
the?
What
do
you
call
on
the
fiscal
impact
report
where
it
outlines
the
increase?
The
approved
budget
includes
20
000
in
salaries
and
benefits,
and
that's
essentially
the
fiscal
impact
that
this
reorganization
will
have.
Can
you
speak
more
directly
to
that.
B
Of
course,
mr
chair
counselors,
this
is
really
important
to
understand
because
there
are
pieces
of
this
puzzle
that
are
increasing
and
another
piece
of
this
puzzle
is
decreasing,
there's
also
a
mix
of
general
funds
and
special
revenue
funds.
So
I
can
walk
you
through
that
you
know.
Very
specifically,
the
proposal
includes
reclassifying
the
parks
and
recreation
director,
which
was
a
range
27
to
a
recreation
director
which
is
a
lower
range,
a
range
25,
and
that
total
salaries
and
benefits
savings
is
specific
to
the
general
fund
and
that's
29
087
dollars.
B
The
next
position
that
was
impacted
is
the
economic
development
department,
director
position.
That
was
a
range
23,
and
this
proposal
includes
reclassifying
that
position
to
a
community
development
director
position,
as
we've
discussed
before
and
that's
a
higher
range.
That
is
a
range
29
and
that
would
accompany
that
would
be
accompanied
by
a
total
increase
for
salaries
and
benefits
of
31
638,
and
here
that
particular
position
would
be
split
between
the
general
fund,
with
75,
assuming
75
of
the
cost
in
the
economic
development
fund,
which
is
a
special
revenue
fund
assuming
25
of
the
cost.
B
Additionally,
the
final
position
where
we
had
a
physical
impact
was
reclassifying
the
vacant
assistant
fire
chief
position,
which
was
a
range
24
to
a
community
health
and
safety
director,
which
is
a
higher
range,
a
range
of
29,
so
that
reclassification
was
accompanied
by
a
total
increase
in
salaries
and
benefits
of
17
570..
B
And,
as
we
did
mention
in
the
fiscal
impact
report,
the
fire
chief
position
did
have
benefits
under
the
fire
para
plan,
as
well
as
the
enhanced
retiree
health
care
plan.
Because
of
this,
that
particular
when
we
reclassify
when
we
will
reclassify
this
position
if
this
proposal
is
approved
to
a
community
health
and
safety
director,
the
community
health
and
safety
director
will
not
be
part
of
the
fire
para
plan
or
the
enhanced
retiree
health
care
plan.
B
So
there
will
be
a
savings
of
approximately
a
little
over
8
000
about
8.5
000
because
of
the
change
in
and
benefit
plans
for
this
particular
position.
B
So
again
that
total
cost
to
the
general
fund
increase
is
twelve
thousand
two
hundred
and
twelve
dollars
and
the
special
revenue
fund,
the
economic
development
fund.
The
total
increase
is
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
and
nine.
For
total
impact
and
the
salaries
and
benefits
category
compared
comparatively
is
twenty
thousand
one
hundred
and
twenty
one
dollars
and
again
just
a
please
count.
B
F
So
and
just
to
just
restate
something
you
said
so
we
are
taking
an
existing
position
in
the
fire
department
and
we
are
moving
it
over
to
this
new
new
community
services
department.
So
it's
not
we're
not
adding
we're
just
realigning.
Is
that
a
correct
understanding.
F
Okay
and
all
of
what
you
just
described,
which
is
very
helpful,
we
went
over
in
seven
days
of
budget
hearings
that
lasted
over
24
hours
of
this
committee
over
the
span
of
two
weeks
I
believe,
or
a
week
and
a
half
something
like
that.
F
So
we
we've
been,
we
went
and
we
went
through
every
budget
and
every
line
item
and
we
reviewed
all
of
the
all
of
what's
being
the
the
current
budget
and
the
changes
that
have
been
contemplated
and
approved
by
the
governing
body
in
the
budget
to
make
this
reorganization
happen,
which
which
deals
with
this
twenty
thousand
dollars
you've
just
outlined
correct.
This
is
not
new
information
to
us.
This
is
we've
already.
We've
already
looked
at
this
we've
already
seen
this
in
a
line
by
line
review
of
the
budget.
B
Counselor
of
romero
worth
yes,
you
are
correct.
The
finance
committee
was
presented,
the
category
level
division
by
division
for
each
of
our
departments.
F
And
then
we
spent
additional
time-
and
this
probably
isn't
a
question
for
you-
maybe
I
don't
know
who
this
is
for
maybe
for
the
city
manager.
So
then
so
then
we
did
so
we
did
all
this
budget
work
all
those
hours
of
hearings
of
this
committee
over
a
span
of
a
week
and
a
half,
and
then
this
this
month,
which
ends
today
in
august.
F
We
have
spent
considerable
time
moving
this
proposal
through
the
three
council
committees
and
and
again
diving
in
where
we've
we
had
a
presentation
in
finance
and
then
we
have
had
ample
time
for
counselors
to
ask
questions
and
understand.
What's
what's
been
happening
here
and
all
of
these
are
recorded
hearings,
city
manager,
correct,
council,
romero
worth.
That
is
correct.
F
So,
just
in
terms
of
whether
this
has
been
vetted,
whether
this
has
been
public,
we
were
public
in
july.
F
Those
hearings
were,
are
you
I
mean
you
can
go
back
and
watch
them
if,
if,
if
you
want
to
and
and
verify
that,
what
I'm
saying
is
true,
and
then
this
month
we
we've
had
the
three
council,
the
three
main
committees
of
the
council,
review,
review
and
vet.
This
proposal,
and
and
these
org
charts
during
this
month,
so
really
we've
been
at
this
two
months,
more
or
less
so,
mr
chair,
I
won't
belabor
this.
F
I
just
think,
as
you
suggested,
you
know,
this
new
department
helps
us,
as
I
think,
in
the
words
of
the
city
manager
meet
the
moment.
It's
going
to
help
us
deal
with
the
the
black
lives
matter,
issues
that
are
being
raised.
It's
gonna
help
us.
F
It's
at
a
few
other
points
which
I'm
we're
not
affecting
we're
affecting
a
a
few
folks
at
the
top.
But
most
people
aren't
going
to
see
a
change
in
who
they
report
to
and.
F
F
I
would
also
just
take
this
opportunity
to
to
say
that
you
know
we
began
professionalizing
the
city
not
under
this
administration,
but
under
the
last
administration,
when
they
approved
and
the
governing
body,
and
that
administration
approved
the
money
to
do
the
work
of
the
mccard
report,
which
pointed
out
inefficiencies
in
in
the
city's
systems
and
procedures
and
the
way
business
was
done
and
and
and
then
in
addition,
that
that
same
administration
and
that
same
governing
body
appointed
a
charter
review
commission
and
that
charter
review
commission,
which
I
actually
was
a
member
of-
and
it
was
my
my
first
dip
into
the
workings
of
the
city,
that
charter
review
commission
recommended
governance.
F
Changes
which
led
to
a
variety
of
proposals
that
were
had
to
be
approved
by
the
governing
are
not
well
had
to
be
approved
by
the
governing
body.
But
then
it
also
had
to
be
approved
by
the
voters.
Who
said
yes,
we
want
to
make
some
of
these
changes
and
and
and
one
of
those
changes
to
our
charter
or
our
constitution.
F
If
you
will
was
to
to
make
a
full-time
mayor
and
and
again
to
do
work
to
pro
to
professionalize
the
city,
to
bring
it
up
to
21st
century
standards
that
last
administration
and
that
last
governing
body
also
started
the
work.
That's
that's
led
to
some
of
the
erp
system
and
and
and
the
systematic
procedures
that
have
helped
actually
in
this
pandemic,
where
we've
needed
electronic
systems.
In
order
to
in
order
to
function,
I
mean
you
can't
you
can't.
F
The
mccard
report
pointed
out
that
people
were
using,
yellow
stickies
to
communicate
and,
to
you
know,
keep
track
of
all
the
various
things
that
had
to
go
on,
and
now
I
mean
if
we
were
relying
on
yellow
stickies
while
we're
all
working
from
home,
we've
been
a
world
hurt,
so
you
know
again.
I
think
this
and
I
I
have
said
before
that.
What
is
happening
here
is
a
continuation
of
a
long
line
of
work.
F
That's
been
going
on
to
help
us
meet
the
issues
of
our
day
and
bring
the
city
the
city
up
to
the
professional
level
that
it
needs
to
be
at
to
be
a
modern
city,
a
21st
century
city.
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
larger
context.
A
you
know,
look
from
a
higher
vantage
point
of
all
the
work
that's
been
going
on,
and
and
also
to
suggest
that
this
is
stuff
that
doesn't
happen
overnight.
F
There's
a
lot
of
hard
work
that
has
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
to
correct,
what's
needed
to
be
corrected,
to
make
us
well
functioning,
to
make
us
efficient
to
make
us
effective
in
the
delivery
of
services
and
to
to
make
sure
that
we
are
using
city
resources
in
the
best
way
we
can,
and,
as
has
been
pointed
out
by
more
than
one
counselor,
these
are
taxpayer
dollars.
F
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
things
well
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
efficient
and
providing
services
in
the
best
way.
We
can
now
I'm
not
under
any
delusion
that
this
is
a
silver
bullet.
I
think
we
will
continue
to
be
creative
and
innovative
and
make
changes,
and
you
know,
learn
from
what
we've
done
where
we've
been
to
to
continue
to
meet
the
needs,
and
I
think
we
will
always
be
doing
and
this,
mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
make
those
those
points.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
a
few
questions
about
the
the
fir
that
was
presented
to
us,
so
you
just
walked
us
through
director
mccoy
about
what
the
number
actually
meant
that
the
20
000,
but
I
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand.
There
was
a
few
things
about
the
narrative
that
I
didn't
understand.
So
the
20
000
is
the
amount.
E
V
Mr
chair
counselor
viral,
I
can
step
in
and
then
bernadette
or
mary
answer
that
was
not
specifically
tied
to
the
reorganization,
so
that
was
part
of
the
recalibration
around
duties.
Someone
had
referenced
earlier,
the
arts
and
culture
department.
It
used
to
report
directly
under
the
tourism
department
that
changed,
and
so
that
was
that
was
where
that
change
was
made.
E
V
V
N
V
E
Is
that
why
the
percentage
is
less
of
what
the
tourism
director
change
is
being
cut
versus
like
what
parks
and
rec
directors
being
okay,
that's
correct,
I
guess.
When
I
looked
at
the
fire,
I
was
expecting
it
to
be
the
numbers
that
of
the
actual
positions
that
are
being
created,
even
though
there
was
some
moving
around
so
the
narrative
kind
of
helped,
but
that
confused
me
more
because
it
was
talking
about
ranges
that
don't
make
sense
to
me
and
the
amount.
E
So
is
there
a
better
way
to
describe
this
because
it
looks
like
just
20
000
is
affected,
but
we're
not
taking
into
consideration
the
the
positions
that
say
we're
froze
have
been
frozen
and
the
position
like
in
fire
that
was
moved
that
was
vacant
that
will
no
longer
be
and
it'll
be
moved
over.
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
think
I
don't
think
of
these
as
savings.
I
never
thought
reducing
someone's
salary
is
considered
a
savings.
E
E
What
are
the
pieces
that
we
aren't
seeing
that
are
going
to
be
affected
like
these
positions
that
are
not
filled,
the
positions
that
are
frozen?
So
I
guess
I'm
not
seeing
it
holistically,
I'm
seeing
the
pieces
as
part
of
the
reorg,
but
the
reorg
also
is
looking
at
it.
It
also
doesn't
take
into
consideration
that
we
still
have
all
these
frozen
positions,
and
so
what
does
that
amount
mean
for
us
and
what?
What
is
the?
E
And
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
number
behind
it?
I
just
don't
know
what
it
is,
because
we
can't
calculate
it.
We
don't
know
how
many
staff
and
how
many
frozen
positions,
what
that
comes
out
to
be
and
then
making
a
change.
It
still
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
we
have
these
frozen
positions,
so
I'm
still
going
back
to
the
holes
that
we
have
in
staff
and
the
fact
that
they're
still
there
and
that
moving
things
around
and
moving
boxes
doesn't
solve.
E
That
problem
that
I
keep
feeling
like
is
just
the
outstanding
piece
of
our
inefficiencies.
So,
there's
that
I
guess
this
I
mean
there's
no
other
way
to
try
to
free
frame
this
or
not
reframe
it
but
structure
the
fire
that
really
gives
the
full
picture.
It's
really
just
the
it's
only
capturing
how
we're
moving
numbers
around
in
terms
of
salaries
from
this
portion
that
would
go
to
this
portion.
That
would
be
moved
there.
E
So
I,
I
guess
that's
hard
for
me
to
really
grasp
if
I'm
not
looking
at
it
holistically
and
that's
just
a
statement,
the
one
piece
of
the
narrative
about
consequences
for
not
enacting
legislation.
E
And
failure
to
adopt
this
legislation
would
require
a
series
of
budget
adjustments.
Well,
when
we
were
going
through
the
budget
hearings,
the
majority
of
the
departments,
the
we
approved
the
budgets
based
on
the
existing
structures,
and
we
were
told
well
once
we
get
into
the
conversation
about
reorganization.
E
If
we
need
to,
we
can
make
bud,
we
can
make
budget
adjustments
if
it
doesn't
pass
so
the
way
this
is
worded,
it
sounds
like
if
you're
not
gonna,
do
the
reorg.
This
is
means
that
we
have
to
change
and
do
all
these
budget
adjustments
and
undo
the
budget
has
passed.
Well,
that's
not
how
it
was
meant
was
communicated
to
us
in
the
budget
hearings.
E
It
was
really
like
we're
keeping
to
the
structure
that
it
currently
is
we're
passing
budgets
for
the
different
departments
and
divisions
as
they
currently
stand,
and
and
then,
as
the
reorg,
there
were
some
positions
that
we
approved
the
financial
aspect
of
them,
with
the
idea
that
there
may
be
a
potential
reorg,
but
I
just
think
that's
kind
of
not
a
correct
statement
to
make
it
sound
like
we're.
Gonna
have
to
do
all
these
series
of
budget
hearings.
If
this
reorganization
doesn't
pass,
I
don't
think
that's
the
case.
B
Mr
chair
counselor,
thank
you
for
bringing
up
that
question.
I
can
give
you
one
concrete
example:
we
voted
on
the
recreation
budget
separately,
then
parked.
So
if
this
reorg
was
not
to
pass,
we
would
have
to
then
essentially
reunite
parks
and
recreation
into
a
department.
B
So
that's
just
one
example
that
where
council
action
during
the
month
of
july,
as
councillor
romero
points
it
out,
mariwood
pointed
out
was
taken
and
then
now,
if
this
measure
this
ordinance
does
not
pass,
we
would
then
have
to
adjust
our
budget
and
we'd
be
bringing
forward
a
budget
adjustment
similar
to
the
capital,
reallocation
budget
adjustment
that
this
committee
heard
earlier
with
those
realignments.
B
Mr
chair
counselor,
we
would
have
to
make
one
budget
adjustment
related
to
the
public
defender.
E
I
think
the
other
piece
was,
I
appreciate
staff
put
this
together.
I
think
it
would
have
been
helpful
to
have
this
just
how
you
the
narrative
and
how
it
broke
down.
The
amounts
would
have
been
helpful
instead
of
how
you
communicated
with
how
it's
structured
right
now
to
me
that
didn't
really
help.
I
think
it
would
just
have
helped
to
be
able
to
say
how
it's
moving
over
the
salaries
and
benefits.
E
What
is
the
addition
that
we
may
we
will
be
making
for
some
of
the
department
directors,
the
new
ones.
I
also
don't
think
this
is
taking
into
consideration
that
there
is
a
plan
that
there
will
be
a
community
development
department
director
and
that
it
won't
be
the
economic
development
director.
I
think
we
should
just
be
honest
with
the
governing
body
that
that's
gonna
happen.
E
I
think
right
now
we're
not
saying
it
is,
but
I
think
in
the
future,
it's
gonna
happen
in
the
near
future.
So
I
think
that's
just
something
that
I
would
want
to
see
too
about
what
that
adjustment
would
be
if
we
end
up
hiring
a
new
department
director,
and
then
we
were
talking
about
how
the
mccard
report
and
and
these
steps
we
took
to
look
at
how
we
can
improve
the
policies
and
procedures
of
of
various
departments.
E
E
That
was
just
something
that
you
all
were
suggesting
as
part
of
the
budget
hearings
and
the
needs
in
finance
and
for
all
our
departments.
So
that
example
wasn't
great
for
me
because
it
didn't
show
that
all
that
we've
been
through
to
try
to
look
at
our
financial
inefficiencies
and
look
at
the
way
we're
doing
our
policies,
basically
policies
and
procedures
that
that
was
one
example
you
gave,
but
there
weren't
any
concrete
examples
about
actually
moving
departments
around
and
division
making
them
into
divisions.
E
So
I
think
that's
I
also
just
I
don't
think
that's
a
fair
assessment
of
a
a
justification
if
you
will
for
the
fact
that
we
did
need
to
do
the
mccarter
part
and
such
and
then
and
then
the
aspect
of
governance.
E
I
mean,
I
don't
think,
governance
changes
as
it
relates
to
our
practices
and
procedures
actually
equate
to
multiple
reorganizations,
and
I
had
said
this
at
the
beginning:
there's
there's
parts
of
the
reorg
that
I
I
actually
think
makes
sense,
and
that
that's
why
I
wanted
to
do
this
incrementally,
instead
of
having
every
single
change
all
at
once.
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
right
approach
to
a
reorganization
so,
and
I
think
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
is.
E
I
know
you
have
good
intentions,
but
I
don't
agree
with
you.
Council
rometta
worth
that
the
reorganization
of
creating
a
community
services
and
an
emergency
management
department
is
actually
going
to
help
us
with
black
lives
matter.
I
think
that
that's
a
whole
other
structural
and
social
component
that
that
we
need
to
address
and
the
fact
that
we
need
to
reimagine
public
safety
and
the
pieces
that
fall
un
under
that.
Doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it
reorg
is
gonna
solve
that
the
inequities
and
inequality
we
have
in
our
communities.
E
So
I
actually
don't
think
that's
a
good
comparison
at
all.
I
think
that
when
we
look
at
a
task
force
and
try
to
come
up
with
possible
solutions,
that's
a
good
way
to
decide
and
actually
justify
or
not
justify
if
a
community
services,
sorry
public
safety
and
public,
I
can't
even
say
it
because
it's
so
long
community
public
safety
and
what
are
we
calling
it
now?
E
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
mary
or
perhaps
burn
I
was
hoping
you
could
provide
me
with
some
education,
the
fir
and
mary.
When
you
were
going
through
it
talks
about
ranges.
Can
you
describe
a
little
bit
more
to
me?
How
ranges
are
determined.
U
Mr
chairman
counselor
tested
sanchez.
The
ranges
are
determined
by
the
nature
of
the
job
description,
which
would
include
the
minimum
qualifications,
the
nature
of
duties,
the
level
of
experience
required
and
through
our
class
and
comp
study
that
we
implemented
a
while
back,
includes
a
process
that
we
go
through
to
identify
what
that
range
would
look
like,
and
so
it's
a
variety
of
factors,
but
it's
also
run
through
what
we
call
the
safe
method,
and
it
helps
us
determine
what
that
range
would
look
like.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
It
sounds
like
something
that
I
I'll
want
to
look
into
a
little
bit
more
offline.
Just
for
my
own
edification.
C
There
is
one
piece
that
I
don't
think
that
we've
talked
about
in
terms
of
changes
for
reporting
relationships,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
city
manager
and
the
reduction
in
direct
reports,
and
I
know
the
one
thing
that
we've
talked
about
is
that
I
think
that
there's
general
agreement
that
17
direct
reports
is
too
many
for
the
city
manager
to
have
so.
V
Mr
chair
counselor
sanchez,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
that,
as
has
been
discussed
in
many
areas,
there's
what's
often
referred
to
an
incident
command
or
another
place
is
a
span
of
control
and
it's
a
it's
a
range
of
managerial
focus
that
allows
you
to
really
dive
in
deep
and
I
think
what
what
in
presenting
and
proposing
this
reorganization,
as
I
I
as
the
caretaker
of
the
city
manager
role
in
this
moment,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
allow
that
position.
V
The
city
manager
to
really
be
able
to
focus
on
driving
priorities
forward
right
now.
I
think
everyone
feels
the
city
is
very
reactive.
We've
been
in
a
reactive
mode.
We
respond
to
complaints,
we
respond
to
concerns
and
sort
of
getting
us
into
a
position
where
we
can
be
proactive
where
we
can
really
be
driving
things
forward.
I
think
you
know
erp
is
a
perfect
example
right
that
was,
that
was
really
hard.
It
was
really
strong
took
years,
but
driving
forward.
V
It's
now
allowed
us
to
really
be
a
foot
forward,
and
so
for
for
me,
the
being
able
to
have
seven
direct
reports,
four
of
whom
are
ex,
are
send
our
subject.
They're
all
subject
matter
experts,
but
the
two.
The
two
new
ones
really
can
dive
in
deeper
to
the
divisions,
see
across
areas
and
really
continue
driving
driving
that
home.
I've
used
the
example
of
homeless
encampments.
V
Before
I
mean
it's
so
we're
trying
to
continue
to
make
progress
in
some
really
difficult
areas,
and
if
we
have
it
allows
the
city
manager
to
both
continue
to
do
the
daily,
the
daily
triage,
the
daily
oversight,
but
really
focus
on
priorities
and
moving
things
forward.
C
Thank
you
for
that.
You
know.
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
a
couple.
Different
models
of
this
we've
talked
about
consolidating
departments,
as
is
being
proposed
here.
We've
also
talked
about
deputy
city
managers,
and
one
thing
that
you
said
jerrell
that
I
think
for
me,
where
I
see
a
benefit
to
this
model.
Is
that
subject
matter,
expertise
in
and
see
instead
of
adding
two
deputy
city
managers
who
would
have
city
manager
skills?
I
think
that
there
is
some
benefit
for
individuals
coming
in
that
can
really
see
into
these
particular
areas.
C
You
know
we
have
a
different
background
for
individuals
that
we
hire.
We
would
not
hire
the
same
person
to
do.
You
know
public
utilities,
as
we
would
for
community
services,
it's
a
very
different
skill
set.
So
I
think
that
that
is
a
benefit
that
I
am
seeing
here
and
I
also
think
the
benefit
of
reducing
the
city
manager's
direct
reports.
C
I
think
it
was
councillor
rivera
who,
as
we
know,
has
has
a
good
amount
of
institutional
knowledge
among
us
had
mentioned
how
many
city
managers
that
he
has
seen
and
essentially
that
our
current
system
is
is
untenable
for
for
an
individual.
So
that's
something
that
I'm
really
eager
to
see.
I
think
that
the
other
piece
that's
really
come
up
a
lot
for
me
is
this
question
of,
and
I
know
for
other
individuals
for
how
how
we
measure
this.
C
How
do
we
see
that
what
we
are
looking
for
is
moving
forward,
and
I
know
for
us
as
city
councillors,
that's
going
to
be
really
important,
that
we
continue
to
call
for
those
updates
and
for
some
of
the
specific
areas
that
we're
interested
in
so
while
we're
here,
I
want
to
lay
out
some
of
those
areas
that
I
particularly
want
to
see.
I
think
the
parks
and
rec,
of
course,
division,
does
bring
up
some
some
anxiety.
C
I'll
say
that
you
know
it's
it's
the
biggest
question,
because
it
really
is
the
one
where
we
are
pulling
apart
a
department
we're
pulling
we're
making
to
use
the
box
analogy.
I
know
it's
not
always
the
best,
but
we're
taking
one
box
and
we're
making
them
into
two
and
for
me,
that's
the
piece
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
on
top
of
my
biggest
concern
is
that
the
division
of
parks
and
rec
is
going
to
potentially
create
more
silos
instead
of
less
so
with
recreation.
C
Right
now,
we're
seeing
some
really
interesting
things
like
clouds
in
the
park
to
do
social
distancing.
We
are
seeing.
I
I've
spoken
with
the
parks
and
rec
director
about
a
number
of
different
special
activities
and
special
events
that
have
been
done
in
the
past,
such
as
treasure,
hunts
and
easter
egg
hunts
and
halloween
ideas,
ideas
at
the
mrc.
C
I
don't
want
it
stuck
inside
four
walls,
maybe
maybe
a
few
other
four
walls
like
the
libraries,
but
you
know
making
sure
that
it
is
city-wide
and
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
one.
How
do
we
see
this
working
with
public
with
parks
and
rec
being
pulled
apart
and
two?
V
Mr
chair
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
I
think
the
vision
here
is
in
in
in
dividing
up
parks
and
recs.
If
we
put
the
maintenance
piece
under
public
works,
they've
got
they've,
got
the
the
skills
rotation
to
make
sure
that
our
parks
as
entities
as
assets
are
mode.
There's
no
holes
and
what
it
really
allows
us
to
do
is
that
it
allows
the
recreation
department
then,
to
focus
on
programming
and
to
create
a
program
across
all
of
our
assets.
V
So
all
of
our
assets
are
everything
from
the
rec
centers,
which
is
where
they
have
traditionally
mostly
focused.
So
you
know
g
triple
c
to
our
parks
to
our
library,
so
that
we've
got.
We
could
actually
provide
a
holistic
set
of
programming
opportunities
in
a
variety
of
settings,
and
I
think
that's
that's
how
I
see
the
synergy,
especially
with
the
the.
V
The
vision
is
to
allow
recreation
to
really
grow
and
and
focus
on
creating
you
know,
state-of-the-art
programming
that
can
be
put
to
put
to
good
good
work
at
all
of
our
state-of-the-art
facilities,
because
we've
maintained
we've
created
a
maintenance
system,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
the
that's
the
vision
here,
I
think,
as
we've
as
came
up
in
the
committee
meetings,
we've
promised
that
to
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
which,
dare
I
say,
begins
in
a
mere
six
months,
bring
this
forward
really
being
clear
about
what
is
working.
V
What
isn't
and
see
see
where
see
where
we
are,
and
so
that
that
that
stands?
I
think
that's
an
important
way
to
continue
to
iterate.
You
know
as
counselor
abeyta
mentioned,
cities
are
city
or
cities,
city,
org,
charts,
city
employ
employment
is
not
a
stagnant
operation,
it's
meant
to
continue
to
evolve
and
change
and
iterate,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
exciting
parts
about
this
reorg
is.
V
It
allows
the
city
to
to
iterate
to
meet
this
moment
and
we'll
continue
to
do
so,
as
our
economic
situation
continues
to
evolve.
As
our
pandemic
situation
continues
to
evolve,
and
it
really
allows
us
to
be
more
nimble
and
meet
the
needs
of
our
residents
in
a
way
that
we've
really
struggled
to
be
able
to
do
so.
C
Thank
you
for
that.
I
am
I
I
appreciate
you
know
the
the
thought
around
that
you
know.
I
think
that
there
is
still
some
more
things
I
want
to
think
about,
and
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
request
is
that,
instead
of
just
a
report
in
six
months,
I
think
maybe
a
report
earlier
on
what
the
measurements
going
to
look
like
for
that
six
months
would
be
really
beneficial
for
all
the
committees,
so
not
just
hey
in
six
months.
C
We're
going
to
give
you
a
presentation,
but
at
this
time
we
will
be
giving
you
a
presentation,
and
here
are
the
things
that
we're
going
to
look
at
and
should
this
reorganization
pass,
that
having
the
department
directors
really
come
together
to
help
form
that
rubric
almost
so
that
those
forms
of
measurement,
I
think,
would
be
helpful.
C
I
know
in
conversations
that
I've
had
with
many
people
about
this
throughout
is
that
there
comes
the
factor
that
we
don't
do
that
already,
so
we
don't
have
a
baseline,
which
is
challenging,
and
so
I
think
that
it'll
be
really
important,
that
we
lay
out
those
measures
ahead
of
time
and
have
the
time
to
really
discuss
them
so
that
us
city
counselors,
have
an
opportunity
to
say
this
is
something
that's
really
important
to
me.
I
really
want
you
to
look
at
that
instead
of
saying
in
six
months.
C
This
is
a
question
that
I
really
would
have
liked
to
see,
so
I
would
request
that
that
come
before
us.
C
I
don't
know
what
we
think
is
reasonable
a
month
or
two
months,
if
we
are
moving
forward,
probably
depends
on
some
hiring,
but
I,
if
you
can
think
about
that-
and
let
me
know
what
you
think
would
be
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
to
put
this
together
as
well
as
enough
time
to
get
some
data.
I'd
really
like
to
hear
about
that.
C
I
also
want
to
talk
about
the
two
positions
that
we
are
moving.
Are
we
eliminating
or
freezing
those
positions.
C
B
Mr
chair
counselor,
I'd
like
to
clarify
both
of
these
positions
are
being
reclassified,
meaning
that
we
are
not
freezing
the
former
position.
This
is
really
important
in
our
process,
so
we
didn't
increase
the
head
count
overall
for
the
city,
the
number
of
city
positions.
B
Mr
terror
counselor,
if
we
increase
the
head
count,
there's
always
a
fiscal
impact
associated
with
that
there
would
be
additional
salaries
and
benefits
and,
as
we
have
discussed
several
times
in
this,
you
know
in
this
committee,
as
well
as
with
the
governing
body.
There
are,
we
do
have
positions
that
are
frozen,
that
are
very
valuable
position
by
several
in
my
own
department
and
we
are
struggling
without
you
know,
without
filling
those
positions
since
they've
been
broken.
B
So
in
terms
of
our
priorities,
you
know
we
would
look
to
be
able
to
fund
some
of
the
positions
that
we
have
in
these
departments.
Those
are
the
conversations
that
we're,
starting
with
with
the
department
directors,
we're
the
first
conversation
today
with
our
public
utilities.
Department
director,
you
know,
which
are
some
of
the
positions
that
he
would
prioritize
if
there
was
additional
funding,
given
that
they
are
enterprise
funds
that
he
would
bring
forward
to
to
the
council
to
be
able
to
fund.
B
So
that's
really
again
a
priority
for
you
know
for
us
to
be
able
to
start
to
fill
some
of
these
vacant
and
frozen
positions.
C
Yeah,
I
understand
that
part.
I
guess
I
guess
I'm
just
not
clear
on
why
we
didn't
just
freeze
the
positions
say
they're
unfunded
for
this
year,
we're
not
going
to
fill
them
this
year,
but
we
are
holding
their
place
because
we
understand
that
they
still
have
value
within
the
overall
structure
and
having
an
opportunity
to
reevaluate
when
when
and
if
we
want
to
fill
those
next
budget
cycle,
if
things
are
improving
or
not
fill
them
based
on
results
that
we're
seeing
out
of
the
reorganization,
am
I
misunderstanding,
something.
V
Chair
counselor
sanchez,
I
don't
think
you're
misunderstanding
anything.
I
had
to
think
that
that
was
not
the.
I
think
that
that's
coming
from
a
very
open-minded
position-
and
I
think
the
intention
in
this
rear
was
not
to
add
to
our
head
count,
and
so
that
was
the.
What
can
we
do
within
our
within
what
we've
got
gotten
allotted?
V
And
so
you
know
again
as
part
of
the
budget
process,
a
lot
of
sacrifices
were
being
made
being
asked
of
the
whole
enterprise,
and
this
was
formulated
within
that
need
to
maintain
our
our
our
nimble
fiscal
footing
and
that
this
you
know
this
was
an
opportunity
to
or
not
opportunity,
but
this
is
the
way
in
which
to
make
it
to
keep
it
all
within
it.
Our
already
existing.
C
Infrastructure,
okay,
yeah.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
I
still
just
I'm
concerned
that
we
are.
You
know
that
there
will
come
a
time
when
we
have
the
money,
and
I
don't
I
I
almost
want,
like
a
bookmark
and
some
way
to
recognize
that
these
positions
got
moved
out
so
that
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
this
again,
we
can
say
all
right:
we
have
the
funding.
These
are
still
valuable
positions
or
look
at
it
and
say:
hey
we've
decided
these
positions
aren't
valuable
and
then
remove
them.
Then
I
just
I.
N
C
About
them
getting
lost
in
history
and
and
them
still
having
having
some
value,
I
think
I
agree
with
you
know
right
now.
We
can't
expand
our
our
head
count
because
we,
you
know,
are
in
a
fiscal
crisis,
but
we
will
not
be
there
forever
as
much
as
this
feels
like
it's
lingering
on
for
a
very
long
time.
We
know
that,
eventually
we
will
come
out
of
this.
V
Mr
chair
counselor,
cassette
sanchez,
bernadette
or
mary,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
believe
that
when,
if
a
position
is
ever
deleted,
we
ought,
we
can
always
come
back
to
the
to
the
council,
to
the
governing
body
to
request
new
positions
and
so
part
of
again
part
of
the
intention
and
being
very
transparent.
V
The
city
part
of
the
reason
the
footprint
is
the
way
it
is
is
because
we've
kept
our
positions
the
way
they
are
and
freeze
them
and
then
don't
fund
them
and
again
part
of
this
reimagining
of
our
city
footprint
is
to
say:
okay,
we're
gonna
clear
these
out
and
when
we
do
have
more
funds
to
your
point
or
when
we
are
in
a
new
position,
what's
the
right
position
to
have
what
should
we
what
what?
What
purpose,
what
role
do
we
need
to
fill?
V
What
purpose
do
we
need
to
fill
and
bring
that
back
to
the
governing
body
to
make
that
proactive
choice
as
opposed
to
well?
This
was
this
existed
on
the
books?
It's
it's
frozen.
Now,
it's
funded.
So
let's
find
that
position.
So
that's
part
of
the
that
power
resides
with
the
governing
body.
C
Okay,
well,
fortunately,
six
months
is
not
so
long
that
we
will
forget
about
this,
so
you
know
I
will
be
sure
to
ask
about
it
when
we
come
up
to
the
next
budget
season.
So
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions
and
comments
for
now.
Thank
you.
So
much.
D
Lindell,
thank
you
chair
when
you
said
this
wasn't
forever
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
It
feels
like
it
tonight.
It's
been
going
on
a
while.
I
have
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
I
had
a
constituent
bring
forward
a
question
to
me
and,
and
I
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
ask
it.
This
is
from
the
budget
and
it's
from
the
community
services
department.
D
I
don't
know
mary.
If
you
can
pull
this
up
quickly,
it
has
to
do
with
contracts
and
utilities,
and
it
was
an
increase
of
over
750
000
and
the
the
question
really
is:
is
that
increased
750
758
000?
Is
that
a
result
of
the
reorg
and
should
it
be
reflected
in
the
fir
can?
Can
you
address
that?
For
me.
B
Mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
I
can
take
an
initial
stab
at
that
and
would
welcome
you
know
comments
from
the
city
manager
as
well
to
fill
in
so
at
this
point
that
additional
funding
for
the
increase
in
community
services
for
the
contracts
that
you
identified
was
really
to
to
respond
to
the
moment
that
we
are
living
in
to
respond
to
the
demands
for
social
services,
an
increase
in
outreach
and
again
I
can
all
defer
to
the
city
manager
to
provide
more
of
more
detail
on
that.
B
We
also
did
discuss
that
piece
during
the
budget
hearings
at
more
detail.
But
again,
whether
or
not
you
approved
the
reorg
tonight,
that
was
a
part
of
the
fy
21
budget
recommendation
from
this
administration
to
increase
the
resources
that
we
had
available
to
our
community
at
this
time
during
the
pandemic.
When
so
many
people
are
seeing,
you
know
life-changing
circumstances
I'll
defer
to
jarrell
to
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
that.
The
purpose.
V
Your
chair,
councillor,
lindell
mary,
hit
it
exactly
right.
I
mean
what
this
allows
us,
as
we
were
again
going
through
the
budget
process.
We
are
in
completely
uncertain
times.
We
all
you
know
again
going
back
to
the
ups
and
downs
as
we
were
going
through
the
budget
process.
Community
services
at
one
one
point
was
being
asked
to
cut
cut
42,
which
was
just
devastating
and
decimating,
as
as
information
improved.
V
It
got
better
of
what
allows
us
to
continue
to
have
the
ability
to
to
react
in
the
moment,
so
the
connect,
the
emergency
connect
funds
that
you
all
approved
again
are
going
to
it's
providing
direct
assistance
to
santa
fe
residents.
It's
keeping
people
from
you
know
helping
them
with
their
with
their
rent,
helping
them
from
being
evicted
any
any
long
lit
litany
of
things,
and
so
this
again,
instead
of
being
it
allows
us
to
to
focus
on
the
moment
that
we're
in
and
what
have
happened
is
is
important
to
do.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
see,
councilwoman
romero's,
hands
romero
worth
hand
is
up.
I
do
want
to
allocate
five
minutes
to
counselor
garcia
in
five
minutes
to
the
mayor
before
we
move
on.
If,
if
that's
okay,
so
we'll
do
one
more
round
with
the
committee
and
then
we'll
let
the
counselor,
garcia
and
councillor
and
mayor
weber
address
if
they
like,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
I'll,
be
really
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
if,
if
you
go
back
to
the
august
17th
presentation
to
the
finance
committee,
which
was
the
first
presentation
we
heard
after
the
budget
about
this
reorganization
proposal,
slide,
two
said
that
the
reorganization
proposal
basically
had
three
bullet
points.
One
was
to
create
three
departments
around
this
community
theme,
so
community
engagement,
community
development
and
community
health
and
safety.
F
The
second
was
to
make
changes
to
parks
and
rec,
and
the
and
the
tagline
was
to
put
like
with
like,
and
the
third
was
creating
a
grants,
management
division
to
centralize
grants,
accounting,
which
again,
is
something
that
our
audit
suggested.
We
should
do,
and
it
was
part
of
the
original
organization,
reorganization
presentation.
F
I
would
also
just
point
out
this
may
be
the
most
scrutiny
we
have
ever
given
a
fiscal
impact
statement,
at
least
in
my
short
time
here
at
the
city,
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
and
and
actually
I
want
to
have
it
validated-
that
this
form
is
a
form
right,
miss
mccoy.
Can
you
confirm
for
me
that
this?
This
isn't
something
you
all
made
up
and
you
put
plugged
in
numbers.
The
way
you
wanted
to
this
is
a
form,
and
you
have
there's
a
specific
way
to
do
it.
B
Chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
correct.
The
relevant
information
that
is
required
is
all
is
included
again.
This
is
a
standard
form.
B
All
of
the
boxes
are
required,
with
every
single
fiscal
impact
analysis
and
really
speaking
from
my
perspective,
on
the
fiscal
side,
both
the
expenditures
and
the
revenue
sources
are
identified,
and
we
think
you
know
that
is
extremely
useful,
particularly
particularly
to
this
committee,
as
we've
just
been
through.
You
know
an
intensive
budget
cycle
where
we
are
understanding
the
sources
of
revenue
to
the
expenses
that
the
city
has.
In
addition
to
that,
we
do
cover
a
variety
of
non.
You
know
fiscal
areas
such
as
administrative
implications.
B
The
chair
went
over
with
you,
as
well
as
the
consequences
of
not
doing
what
the
proposed
action
is.
This
is
very.
This
is
standard
visas
in
all
organizations
that
I've
worked
in
the
legislature
uses
something
very
similar.
You
know
as
well.
F
Questions
is
consequences
of
not
enacting
this
legislation
which,
over
the
course
of
my
tenure
here
at
the
city,
I
sometimes
find
the
answers
to
these
questions
kind
of
funny,
because
you
know
whatever
it
is
we're
proposing
to
do
the
the
tagline
is
well,
then
we
wouldn't
do
this
basically,
so
anyway,
this
is
a
form
and-
and
you
all
filled
it
out
according
to
the
form-
and
I
I
guess
just
one
two
other
things
I
told
the
chairman
two
things
and
really
I
have
four
so
I
I
think
this
idea
of
of
not
just
having
a
position
and
freezing
it.
F
If
we
know
right
now,
we
don't
need
it,
then
let's
not
keep
it
on
the
books
and
because
that's
how
we
get
bloat
right
and
if
we
need
a
position,
if
we
decide
that's
something
really
critical
to
the
operation,
the
city
there's
nothing
that
stops
us
from
putting
it
back
or
recreating
it,
and
I
I
think
that
we
again,
I
don't.
I
don't
see
this
as
a
silver
bullet,
we're
going
to
continue
to
make
changes.
We
may
add
back
positions
in
better
times
when
there's
money
to
do
it.
F
We
may
make
other
tweaks.
We
may
move.
You
know
different
end
boxes
has
been
stated
around
because
we're
seeing
that
they
might
work
better
in
a
different
way.
I
think
we're
we're
going
to
continue
to
innovate
and
be
creative
in
meeting
the
needs
of
the
city
and
and
then
I
just
I
want
to
assure
counselor
via
real
that
I
I
don't
think
that
the
new
department
is
is
the
only
way
that
we'll
address
the
black
lives
matter
issues.
F
I
I
completely
support
the
committee
that
she
and
councillor
rivera
are
chairing
and
I
think
there
will
be
a
lot
of
recommendations
and
they
can
move
forward
in
this
new
structure
and,
and
hopefully
the
collaborations
that
are
being
created
will
help,
carry
and
implement
those
recommendations
forward.
So
I
want
to
just
say
completely:
I
again,
this
isn't
a
silver
bullet.
It's
just
part
of
all
the
things
we're
doing
the
city
to
to
operate
at
a
higher
level.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
The
committee
okay,
so
it's
8
25
I'd
like
to
get
to
our
presentation
by
8
30,
so
we'll
hear
from
councillor
garcia
briefly
and
then
the
mayor
and
then
we
need
to
move
on
counselor,
garcia.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
really
appreciate
the
moment
to
at
least
ask
some
questions,
but
I
just
want
to
quickly
respond
to
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
by
my
colleagues
earlier.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
when
we
look
at
the
number
of
folks
being
affected.
G
You
know
my
job.
Didn't
change,
et
cetera,
keep
an
eye
on
morale
just
because
restructuring
wasn't
questioned
in
the
past
doesn't
mean
we
shouldn't
be
doing
it.
Now
I
mean
that
I
think
that's
it's
critical
to
question
any
legislation
in
front
of
us
whether
it's
restructuring
or
should
we
put
a
stop
sign
up
somewhere.
I
think
it's
critical
that
we're
always
questioning
and
we're
always
making
sure
we're
making
the
right
decisions.
G
It's
it's
and
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
putting
together
this
fir.
I
really
appreciate
the
information
that
went
into
this.
I
do
have
a
request
for
miss
mccoy
to
if
we
can
make
the
breakdown
that
she
went
through
available
not
only
to
the
full
governing
body,
but
it
may
be
part
of
the
packet.
G
I
do
have
some
concerns
around
the
consequences.
Section
counselor
out
real
real
mentioned
earlier
in
regards
to
the
assumed,
by
section
I
think,
that's
a
false
statement
and
an
fir
should
have
factual
statements
because
it
shouldn't
have
been
assumed.
G
G
Can
I
get
a
forecast
of
what
the
cost
savings
will
be,
because
I
I
think
that's
critical
for
the
community
to
understand
how
we
are
going
to
be
saving
resources
for
the
community.
If
we're
saying
we're
going
to
do
it,
let's,
let's
prove
it.
So
is
there
a
way
to
get
a
forecast
of
the
savings
cost
savings
that
we
will
be
seeing
from
this.
V
Counselor
garcia
at
this
time,
we
didn't
not
build
any
specific
cost
savings
into
the
into
the
budget.
I
think,
as
we've
discussed
this
is
this
doesn't
happen
overnight.
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
synergy,
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
cost
savings,
but
heading
into
the
22
budget
planning,
but
for
right
now
there
are
no
we
didn't
in
in
21.
We
did
not
assume
any
specific
cost
savings.
G
I
think
miss
lepen,
I
I
think
miss
lapan
hill
was
trying
to
respond.
I
couldn't
I
don't
know
if
she
was
on
mute
because
I
saw
her
talking,
but
if,
if
I
I
just-
I
think
you
know
and-
and
I
think
it
was
the
city
manager
who
mentioned
this-
that
we
have
a
vision
which
I
completely
agree
with,
and
I
think
you
know
it's
a
great
start
to
a
vision.
G
G
I
think
those
are
critical
components
that
are
missing
from
this
and
and,
as
I
stated
in
our
last
meeting,
we
I'm
we
need
to
work
on
that.
We
need
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
road
map
to
to
success.
We
can't
just
jump
on
the
road
and
say
we're
going
to
wally
world.
We
we
need
to
determine
how
we're
going
to
get
there,
and
so
with
that.
I
really
appreciate
the
time,
mr
chair,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
the
breakdown
shared
with
the
entire
governing
body
that
miss
mccoy
mentioned
earlier.
B
Trump
to
that
point,
that
breakdown
is
included
on
page
three
in
a
written
format.
The
page
three
of
the
fir
under
the
expenditure
narrative.
A
Q
Chair,
thank
you,
members
of
the
committee.
I
have
nothing
really
to
add.
You
have
really,
I
think,
explored
the
fir
and
and
the
proposal
in
great
detail
and
highlighted
each
of
you
in
your
own
way
the
things
you
find
advantageous
and
things
you
don't
find
advantageous.
Q
Q
This
will
continue
to
evolve
and
will
continue
to
find
its
way
forward.
Hopefully,
the
the
merits
of
treating
a
government
as
a
whole
and
an
administration
as
an
integrated
set
of
managers
working
collaboratively
is
really
setting
a
good
precedent
going
forward.
Q
It's
actually,
as
council
romero
worth
pointed
out,
the
first
time
by
charter
that
we've
had
that
kind
of
a
structure,
and
so
our
effort
is
to
have
teamwork
among
the
department
heads
to
end
the
silos
that
historically
have
really
crippled
city
government
and
reduced
the
efficiencies
and
innovations
that
have
been
able
to
come
out
because,
frequently
city
man,
the
managers
of
the
different
departments
have
more
or
less
stayed
within
their
own
areas
and
not
ventured
across
boundaries.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
see
much
more
collaboration.
Q
I
think
we'll
see
the
kind
of
creative
innovations
that
councilor
cassid
sanchez
was
looking
for
with
with
recreation.
I
you
know
we
were
speaking
earlier.
She
and
I
about
chess
being
a
recreational
activity
that
takes
place
in
the
libraries
and
is
part
of
a
partnership
that
can
really
flourish
for
our
young
people.
Q
Q
So
I'm
very
optimistic
that
the
the
spirit
of
good
management
and
the
the
subject
matter,
expertise
that
was
raised
earlier,
we'll
actually
bring
this
forward
so
that,
as
we
evaluate
it,
we'll
see
ways
that
it's
producing
improved
service
to
the
people
of
the
city.
That's
the
whole
point
and
a
much
more
broad
gauge.
Look
at
the
the
whole
purpose
of
city
government.
Q
I
said
to
randy
randall
and
some
of
the
folks
who
would
be
part
of
the
new
team
on
community
development
that,
if
you
look
at
the
question
that
most
companies
start
with,
they
start
with
the
question.
What
business
are
we
really
in
and
up
to
now,
by
having
the
silos
of
departments
and
17
different
direct
reports
to
the
city
manager,
you
could
say
that
the
work
of
tourism
is
to
impr
increase
tourism.
Q
That's
not
really
the
business
that
tourism
is
in
tourism
is
in
the
business
of
creating
job
opportunities
for
young
people
and
people
across
our
city
to
have
good
good
careers
and
to
join
the
workforce
with
productive
employment.
Q
That's
the
business
that
tourism
is
what
business
is
really
in.
What
business
is
affordable
housing
in
well
alex?
Will
tell
you
she's
got
to
do
a
lot
of
work
to
go
hand-to-hand
combat
with
hud,
but
that's
not
really
the
business
she's
in
she's
in
the
business
of
trying
to
improve
housing
choices
for
everybody
in
our
city
across
a
broad
spectrum
of
options.
Q
The
same
is
true
for
economic
development,
economic
development's,
not
about
economic
development.
It's
about
creating
futures
for
young
people,
job
training
and
job
opportunities.
The
same
goes
for
our
friends
in
in
land.
Use
they
issue
permits,
but
we
really
want
them
to
do
is
to
create
livable
neighborhoods.
Q
So,
as
you
look
across
the
the
the
idea
behind
these
these
new
departments,
it's
really
to
think
more
creatively
and
with
more
purpose
about
how
the
city
performs
on
behalf
of
the
people
of
the
city,
so
you
all
did
a
great
job
of
going
into
it
in
great
depth,
and
I
appreciate
the
rigor
and
the
the
intelligence
you've
applied
and
appreciate
you
all
in
your
hard
work.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
That
concludes
the
finance
committee's
review
of
the
fiscal
impact
report
associated
with
bill
number
2020-20
item
number
b.
Our
letter
b
is
a
benefits
presentation.
Does
the
committee
want
to
hear
that
or
do
we
want
to
put
it
off
to
the
21st?
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee
council.
A
Okay,
does
the
committee
concur?
Okay,
okay,
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
put
that
off
we're
gonna
go
to
matters
from
the
staff.
Ms
mccoy,
is
there
anything
from
the
finance
staff.
B
Mr
chair,
just
one
update
at
this
late
hour.
It'll
be
brief.
We
did
receive
notification
from
the
state
of
new
mexico,
the
department
of
finance
and
administration
today
that
we
did
receive
17.6
million
in
cares
act
funding.
So
just
really
want
to
congratulate
all
of
the
staff
that
put
in
the
time
and
the
efforts
to
submit
the
application.
It
was
a
pretty
quick
turnaround,
but
these
dollars
are
very
much
needed
in
our
community.
B
We
did
receive
70
of
what
we
requested
and
we
had
the
third
highest
score
of
all
of
the
municipal
and
all
the
local
governments
municipal,
including
municipalities
and
counties,
who
were
very
appreciative
to
the
states
to
the
governor
for
for
allocating
and
making
these
funds
available
at
such
a
critical
time.
So
again
that
17.6
million
in
additional
funding
that
will
directly
support
our
community
over
the
next
few
months.
A
C
Just
wanted
to
ask
one
quick
follow-up
question:
will
we
have
a
chance
to
do
a
deep
dive
into
these
funds
and,
where
they're
being
used
soon,
I'm
excited
to
hear
wonderful.
Thank
you.
That
was
all
and
thank
you
for
your
work
on
that.
I
know
that
it
was.
It
was
a
lot
and
you
had
tempered
my
expectations
to
say,
like
maybe
10
million,
so
the
17
is
really
exciting.
C
F
Actually,
mary
and
I
met
with
jennifer
our
council
liaison
and
kira
and
rich
brown
about
bringing
a
presentation
not
at
this
week's
quality
of
life
committee,
but
the
following
week
to
do
the
deep
dive
counselor
that
you're
suggesting
into
how
this
money
will
be
spent.
So
we'll
we'll
be
spending
some
time
on
this,
and
I
look
forward
to
it
and
congratulations.
Mary.