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B
All
right,
we
are
live
so
first
item
here
elizabeth.
Can
I
get
you
to
do
a
roll
call.
C
Yes,
sir
chair
lewis,
member
o'reilly
here
remember
bechtel
member
clow,
here
member
conway.
D
C
B
C
B
Thank
you
is
martin
for
the
roll
call.
F
F
B
You
all
right
next
on
the
agenda
here
is
approval
of
minutes
from
the
meeting
on
210
2022.
F
That's
just
a
correction
page
six
paragraph
six
miss
martin.
The
first
word
park.
P-A-R-K
should
be
part
p-a-r-t.
B
F
H
B
Okay,
thank
you,
everyone,
staff
communications,
any
thing
we
need
to
know
about
for
this
meeting.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
lee
logsdon.
He
actually
has
a
new
job
in
a
different
department,
managing
the
ciac
for
us,
and
we
just
can't
thank
him
enough
for
his
work
on
this
way.
Out
of
you
know
just
way
beyond
the
irregular
transition.
So
I
just
like
to
recognize
him
for
that.
B
Okay,
with
no
additional
communications.
Maybe,
let's
turn
over
to
the
action
items,
and
I
believe
ms
wheeler
will
talk
us
through
these.
I
J
I
The
memo
is
pretty
self-explanatory.
It
explains
that
that
intersection
project
is
bogged
down
in
some
pretty
significant
right-of-way
issues.
It
won't
be
constructed
for
another
year
and
we
have
sought
alternate
funding
for
it
and
so
we'd
like
to
use
the
impact
fees
to
get
the
kenyatta
rincon
trail
constructed
this
year
and,
of
course,
we're
all
dealing
with
increasing
prices,
so
there's
a
significant
funding
gap
from
what
we
have
to
what
we
need
to
construct,
and
this
would
get
us
home
free
on
that.
So
thank
you.
So
much
staff
for
questions.
H
F
B
Good-
and
I
mean
I
I
will-
I
know
that
there
was
some
email
traffic
regarding
whether
or
not
we
can
use.
I
think
road
impact
fees
for
this
trail,
and
I
know
that
there
was
had
some
good
commentary
and
then
remember.
Guerrero
ortiz
had
some
questions
on
it.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
have
comments,
never
cloud.
You
have
a
question.
G
G
G
I
know
we
got
the
memo
from
the
assistant
city
attorney,
but
I
I
really
think
that
that
needs
to
be
in
everybody's
report
that
that's
really
the
the
first
thing
that
should
be
in
the
report
is
number
one:
how
does
this
comply
with
state
and
city
ordinances
on
being
appropriate
expenditures
because
it
just?
I
Thank
you
yes,
we'll
we'll
a
lot
we'll
do
that,
we'll
work
with
tat
to
get
that
as
a
first
paragraph
or
second
paragraph
in
the
middle
once
you're
introduced
to
the
request,
then
how
it
complies.
Thank
you
for
that
reminder.
F
H
B
All
right,
miss
martin.
Will
you
do
a
roll
call.
H
B
Thank
you
welcome
member
guerrero
ortiz
all
right,
so
we
are
on
to
action.
Item
number
6d
back
to
you.
Miss
wheeler.
I
Thank
you
so
much
chairman.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
I
gotta
note
that
my
okay
good,
I
just
need
to
get
a
little
closer.
I
think
so
this
thank
you
so
much
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
a
request
to
supplement
some
nmdot
funding
that
we
received
to
expand
capacity
on
both
bishops
lodge
road
and
henry
lynch
road
to
meet
demands
of
the
growing
community.
I
We
received
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
design
for
both
of
these
or
phase
one
for
both
of
these
projects,
but
it
it
was
not
enough
to
cover
that
cost,
and
so,
in
order
to
kick
these
projects
off
and
get
through
public
engagement
preferred
alternative
analysis
and
conceptual
design.
We're
seeking
additional
funding,
we're
seeking
367
0003
dollars
for
bishops
lodge
road
reconstruction
and
187
447
for
henry
lynch
road
reconstruction
combined
amount
of
554
450
dollars,
and
I
think
the
rest
is
explained
in
the
memo
and
I'll
stand
for
questions.
F
Oh,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
certainly
in
favor
of
approving
this
request,
but
I
had
a
question
for
you
regina.
What
what
is
the
total
current
construction
cost
estimate
for
bishop's
lodge.
I
I
could
so
it's
a
very
it's
just
a
budgetary
estimate
at
this
point,
since
you
don't
even
have
conceptual
at
all
so
and
I'm
not
even
sure
we
put
that
on
an
application
at
a
phase
one
state
and
I
could
I
may
be
able
to
dig,
I
can
look
at
her
applications
really
quickly.
F
I
think
if
I
may
I
I
think
I
know
that
when
we
add
these
things
to
the
table
80
in
the
ifcip,
we
we
put
a
placeholder
number
in
there,
and
I
know
that
that's
very
rough
estimate.
I
guess
I'm
just
looking
for
an
order
of
magnitude.
I
B
I
I
Yes,
total
project
cost
design
and
construction
for
bishops
lodge
is
I'm
sure,
massively
underestimated.
At
five
million
eight
hundred
and
sixty
I'm
going
to
say,
10
easy
we're
talking
about
reconstructing
the
road
and
adding
bike
lanes
to
a
mile
of
roadway.
It's
not
gonna
yeah,
I
mean
a
good
example.
Is
guadalupe
street
is
not
even
a
mile
adding
bike
lanes
and
sidewalks
and
that's
at
10
million
right
now.
F
Okay,
I
I
appreciate
that
I
agree
with
you.
I
think
5
million
is
probably
low
in
today's
world,
but
I
think
10
million
could
easily
be
the
number.
The
reason
I
asked
the
question
mr
chair
is:
with
this
increasing
cost
for
design
services.
F
F
It
seems
really
high
to
me,
I'm
just
speaking
as
a
former
consulting
engineer.
It
makes
me
want
to
go
back
into
private
practice
that
I
I
honestly
and
here
and-
and
I
understand
regina-
that
you
don't
have
a
whole
lot-
a
whole
lot
of
control
over
that.
But
here's
my
problem
with
what
the
what
the
consultant
did
to
estimate
the
fee.
F
They
simply
took
the
length
of
road,
the
additional
length
of
road
that
they
were
going
to
be
designing
and
use
that,
as
a
pro
rata
percentage
to
increase
their
fee-
and
I'm
sure
you
know,
committee,
member
ghetto
ortiz
could
speak
to
this.
But
you
know
you
have
a
whole
bunch
of
money
in
there
that
is
used
just
to
design
the
project,
and
I
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
they're
taking
advantage
a
little
bit
by
saying
well,
because
the
road
extends
another
25,
our
fee
has
to
extend
exactly
25.
F
So
I
just
I'm
in
favor
of
this,
I'm
going
to
go
for
it,
but
I
would
just
say
that,
especially
with
a
company
like
wilson
and
company,
who
I
think
the
city
uses
for
all
kinds
of
things,
I
just
feel
like
they're.
Really.
F
This
is
a
bit
high
for
a
fee,
and
that's
just
my
comment.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
Thank
you,
member
o'reilly.
I
I
would
like
to
comment
on
that.
You
know
we
thought
the
same
thing
and
we
did
ask
for
another
quote
from
a
minute,
so
we
got
quotes
from
wsp
and
wilson
to
compare.
So
when
things
come
in
like
this
we're,
like
you,
I
mean
at
this
point
we're
all
adjusting
to
this
new
reality
but
yep.
So
we
will.
You
know-
and
I
might
ask
since
you're
interested
in
that
level
of
detail
ramella
to
attach
quotes
to
this.
We
could
do
that.
We
certainly
do
that.
I
Sometimes
when
we
go
to
governing
body
for
approval
with
things
so
that
you
can
see
that
we
have
done
some
competitive
analysis
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
being
completely
overpaying
for
the
services.
So
thank
you
for
raising
that
up
and
we'll
continue
to
watch
that
and
provide
you
with
information
about
it.
F
I
appreciate
it
I
you
know
you
did
provide
quite
a
bit
of
information
in
both
items,
which
is
how
I
found
out
how
they,
you
know
calculated
their
increased
fee,
so
that
that
was
really
appreciated,
and
I
know
that
you
know,
like
you
said:
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
We
can
do,
but
gosh
don't
expect
to
you
know,
don't
be
surprised
if
you
see
o'reilly
engineering
back
there
on
your
bidder's
list,
with
a
million
dollars
to
design
a
small,
relatively
small
road
wow
anyway.
Thank
you,
regina.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
J
Hi,
thank
you.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
It
seems
like
the
original
scope
was
paseo
del
peralta
to
circle
drive
and
then
it
was
altered
from
artists
road
to
the
county
line.
I
would
have
thought
that
artist
rode
to
paseo
de
peralta
is
the
area
that
was
most
used
by
the
public,
so
I
was
kind
of
surprised
you
were
taking
it
out
of
the
scope
and
I
wanted
to
understand
why.
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question,
mr
chairman
member
guerrero,
otis.
That's
actually
d.o.t
roadway
from
bishop
to
a
hyde
park,
road
so
and
those
guys
are
actually
underway
in
a
study
of
reconstruction
of
the
entire
hyde
park,
roadway
starting
at
pdp.
I
So
going
around
that
corner
and
up
the
end,
we
had
originally
applied
for
thought
that
the
we
just
do
a
mile
of
bishops
lodge,
but
then
we
noticed
that
you
know
we
really
should
go
to
the
county
line
and
that'll
really
help
us
solve
some
of
the
problems
coming
over
that
hill.
So
that's
why
we
extended
on
that
direction
and
reduced
it
in
the
other
direction,
because
it's
actually
state
road.
J
Okay
and
then
I
have
a
whoops
my
I
have
a
follow-up
question.
I
noticed
that
the
fee
does
not
currently
include
traffic
control
plans.
That
surprised
me,
that's
what
it
says
in
the
wilson
and
companies
memo,
and
so
are
we
anticipating
that
wilson's
going
to
come
back
and
ask
for
another
change
order.
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question
as
well
and
I'll.
I
guess
ramilah
has
her
hand
up
and
up
but
I'll
just
say
this
is
design,
so
there
won't
be
any
in
the
field
interruption
of
traffic.
Yet
that
would
come
later
during
the
construction,
so
traffic
control
would
come
in
a
later
scope
phase.
J
I
And
I
will
let
vermella
answer
she
seems
to
be
prepared.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair
member
guerrero,
ortiz,
and
so
if
I
can
just
go
back
to
your
first
question
that
we
spoke
with
the
nmdot
yesterday
with
mr
javier
martinez,
with
regards
to
the
project
terminate
the
original
project
terminal
and
he
he
said
that
that
we
could
start
this
project
from
the
original
project
from
paseo
de
peralta
up
to
the
boundary
of
the
county
county
line
county
boundary.
E
We
are
he's
still
looking
at
the
possibility
of
not
amending
this
formally,
but
to
do
an
administrative
change
and
administrative
change.
But
with
with
regards
to
the
second
question
about,
why
is
not
traffic
control
plan
is
included
in
the
proposal?
It's
because
this
is
transportation,
product
project
funding,
a
funder.
E
E
I
And
miss
wheeler,
so
thank
you
so
much
tara
and
member
guerrero
ortiz.
I
wanted
to
add
as
well-
and
I
know
that
you
post
member
o'reilly
and
member
guerrero
otisva
for
the
other
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
not
at
all
simply
designing
the
roadway.
There's
extensive
public
engagement
required
up
for
a
proper
phase,
1a
that
meets
all
of
the
requirements
of
the
process.
I
I
I
mean
it
is
heavy
duty,
so
any
engineer
would-
and
I
would
take
their
you
know,
regular
what
the
design
work
is,
and
you
really
double
that
because
of
the
overhead
of
the
reporting
and
the
public
engagement
and
the
responses
to
comments,
and
so
it's
it's
really
much
more
than
just
design,
and
I
know
that
you
guys
are
aware,
but
we
do
regularly
expect
20
of
the
project
costs
to
go
to
to
work.
That's
not
construction!
I
So
that's
our
rule
of
thumb
and
has
been
for
some
time
and
so
that
that
I
think
further
indicates
what
I
think
member
o'reilly
was
saying,
which
is
that
the
overall
total
project
costs,
maybe
that
were
early
envision
for
these
projects,
is
an
underestimate.
And
then
that
makes
this
number
look
even
worse.
Compared
to
that.
B
Great
helpful
context,
member
hamilton.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
question.
I
think
it's
a
training
opportunity
for
me.
What
is
the
difference
between
table
80
list
and
what
is
on
our
documents
today
under
table
two
and
I'm
asking
because
bishop's
lodge
isn't
included
in
the
table.
2
provided
for
us
in
the
packet
today
and
the
numbers
for
henry
lynch
at
22
5
are
very
different
from
what's
on
table
80
as
budgeted.
So
I'm
just
curious
about.
What's
what
was
what
what
do
those
two
lists
have
in
common
and
what's
the
difference
between
the
two
lists.
E
Mr
chair
member
hamilton,
thank
you
for
that
question.
So,
at
the
last
ciac
meeting
the
committee
approved
the
new
the
updated
table.
80.
E
we
went
to
the
governing
body
to
approve
the
the
changes
by
a
resolution
and
the
governing
body
approved
the
resolution
on
march
31st
solution.
2022
dash,
I
can't
remember
the
the
number
80
plus,
and
so
that
is
the
difference.
The
difference
is
that
in
that
amount
we
updated
our
project
cost
estimate,
because
when
that,
when
the
cost
estimate
was
estimated,
it
was
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
so
we
updated
the
cost
estimate
based
on
the
current
nmd
nmd
otp
prices.
I
K
B
Because
we're
looking
to
approve
spending
funds
on
it
right
now
right,
it
is
so
until
we
vote
on
it.
It
won't
be
part
of
table
two,
even
if
it
is
part
of
table
80
as
an
eligible
project.
B
B
D
We
had
one
of
our
committee
members
in
the
attendee
room.
I
didn't
recognize,
it
was
him.
He
had
his
hand
up,
but
now
he's
rejoined
us
as
a
panelist.
No,
my
the
power.
B
A
B
Of
the
project
right,
we
don't
have
to
wait
until
the
actual
building
and
then
part
two.
I
A
Yes,
so
part
of
part
of
what
is
allowed
is
is
design
it's
sorry.
I've
lost
the
to
acquire
or
construct
capital
improvements
or
facility
expansions,
including
planning,
surveying
and
engineering
fees
paid
to
independent,
qualified
professionals.
Okay-
and
there
are
some
other
similar
factors,
but
I
believe
this
would
fall
under
yep.
That's
engineering,
yeah,.
I
And
thank
you
so
much
for
the
question
about
the
10
million
dollars.
We've
kind
of
stacking
up
a
lot
of
these
big
projects
that
we
have
a
number
of
places
to
seek
funding
and
ramella
is
extremely
progressive
and
act
about
about
that.
We
work
together.
I
There's
job
infrastructure
act,
money
coming
to
supplement
what
dot
already
has
we
have
federal
delegations
sometimes
have
individual
appropriations
which
we
can
apply
for
there's
other
federal
funds.
We
also
have
go
bond
grt
bond,
so
we
use
all
we
all
of
those
resources
to
to
fund
some
of
these
bigger
projects,
and
we,
you
know
we're
constantly.
Ramel-
is
really
good
about
keeping
an
eye
on
like
what
needs
funding
next.
I
I
B
To
have
stuff
designed-
and
then
you
know,
then
you
can,
I
mean
maybe
there's
a
little
risk
there.
We
got
to
do
it
and
I
think
it's
important,
and
this
is
a
project
that
the
city
needs.
That
area
needs
to
be
updated,
so
certainly
in
favor
of
that,
okay.
H
B
B
Thank
you,
member
cloud.
Ms
martin,
will
you
do
a
roll
call.
B
C
B
B
B
H
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
steph's
work
on
all
this
stuff.
I
did
mr
logsdon.
I
did
attend
that
mayor's
summit
on
housing
that
you
produced
all
that
data
for
and
we
were
really
looking
at
the
growth
areas
of
the
city
and
you
know
all
the
periphery
of
larger
multi-family
developments
that
are
ringing
our
city
and
the
priorities
of
trying
to
do
infill
and
there's.
H
You
know,
certainly
some
changes
of
zoning
and
what
emerged
from
that
meeting,
I
think,
was
we're
going
to
have
another
meeting,
but
also
you
can
just
sense
that
the
priority
is
going
to
be
the
tierra,
the
third
phase
of
tierra
contenta,
and
so
I
just
I
don't
know
how
we
get
that
on
our
radar
or
how
the
staffs
rate
are
that
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
road
funds
and
I'm
anticipating
that
at
some
point,
there's
going
to
be
some
funding
gap
that
might
end
up
coming
to
this
committee,
and
so
I
was
looking
at
the
balances
on
our
reports
that
staff
prepared
on
the
two
agenda
items
and
I'm
I
just.
H
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
that
the
next
items
that
come
before
this
committee,
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
the
priority
list
that
we
keep
talking
about
yeah.
We
leave
that
money
in
the
bank
for
some
of
these
really
larger
projects
of
the
city
around
housing.
There's
not
really
a
question
there.
It's
just
a
discussion
item,
I
guess
for
everybody
like.
Do
we
anticipate
that
the
the
tierra
content
of
phase
three
will
be
coming
bef?
That
there'll
be
a
funding
request
coming
before
this
committee.
I
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
sharing
some
results
of
that
summit.
Yesterday.
I
was
wishing
that
I
could
have
made
it
over
there,
but
we
had
our
budget
hearing
at
the
same
time.
We
so,
as
I
think
I've
mentioned
before
we
did
receive
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
nmdot
funds
for
the
design
of
tierra
contentes,
spine
road
and
infrastructure
and
loop
road.
That
is
actually
more
than
what's
required
for
the
design.
I
So
that's
extremely
well
funded,
and
we
also
expect
to
submit
for
construction
funding
to
nmdot.
It's
important
to
remember.
The
city
cannot
pay
for
that
road
in
entirety.
We
can
only
contribute
a
portion,
that's
proportional
to
the
affordable
housing
units
at
the
site,
so
we
do
intend
to
fully
subsidize
the
project
up
through
dot
funds,
the
800
000
for
for
design
and
then
probably
about
two
and
a
half
million
for
construction,
and
that's
really
all
we
can
contribute
by
the
affordable
housing
act
and
the
developer
will
have
to
pay
for
the
rest.
I
So
that
that's
our
plan-
and
so
I
think
you
know-
maybe
I'll
give
it
some
thinking
about.
You
know
what
might
be
the
gap
between
what
we
could
get
from
dot
and
what
we
can
contribute,
and
I
think
million
dollars
would
be
the
top
number
that
I
probably
just
think
right
now
that
we
might
want
to
think
about
having
if
dot
doesn't
come
through
with
the
two
and
a
half
that
we'll
be
requesting
next
year.
H
B
Thank
you,
member
conway,
for
bringing
that
up,
especially.
B
If
you
know
post
these
allocations,
we'd
have
1.2
million
left
for
roads.
So
if
you
know
we
wanted
to
year
mark
a
million
right,
then
we're
quickly
running
out
of
funds.
I
know
that
we
will
be
getting
more
funds
coming
in
because
there
will
be
more
construction,
more
impact
fees,
but
that's
sort
of
a
moving
target
and
hard
to
exactly
know
where
we'll
end
the
year
at
right,
yeah.
My.
H
Yeah,
I
think
my
my
thinking
along
this
is
that
there's
not
always
the
cic.
We
don't
always
put
funding
into
projects
that
are
gonna,
create
more
funding
for
our
very
committee,
and
I
just
you
know
like
the
the
these
two
items
we
just
approved.
H
F
I
want
to
thank
you
miles
for
for
bringing
up
the
topic
of
tierra
contenta
and
how
long
phase
three
has
been
sitting
out
there
and
have
seen
seeing
impact
b
monies
go
by
when
they
could
be
used
there.
I
just
want
to
clarify
something:
the
city
can
theoretically
fund
all
of
the
roadway
infrastructure
for
the
paseo
del
sol
extension.
It's
not
limited
by
the
anti-donation
clause
of
the
constitution,
because
we
have
placed
that
road
on
the
impact
fee,
capital
improvement
plan.
F
So
but
we
don't
have
the
money
to
do
that,
obviously,
because
they're
they're,
I
think
the
latest
estimate
I
heard
was
14
million
dollars
for
the
construction
of
that
road,
and
I
also
think
that
would
say
that.
That's
that's
not
how
tiago
contender
has
ever
worked
and
it
needn't
fund
all
of
it.
F
All
that's
really
needed
is
for
to
jumpstart
the
construction
of
the
road
so
that
tracks
can
be
sold
and
tierra
contender
can
begin
operating
the
way
it
has
20
years
ago,
which
is
selling
tracks
and
then
using
the
proceeds
of
those
sales
to
further
extend
roadway
infrastructure.
F
So
yeah,
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
that
there's
a
maybe
two
and
a
half
million
out
there
that
regina's
talking
about.
I
think
we
really
should
think
about
the
remaining
million
dollars
that
we
have
sitting
there
unencumbered
in
the
roadway
impact
fee
fund
and
assigning
it
to
that
because,
just
in
my
opinion
there
is
no
more
important
project
that
that
has
an
impact
on
so
many
levels
across
the
city
as
base
three
of
tr
contender,
because.
F
So
many
different
city
priorities-
you
know,
fixing
fixing
bishop's
lodge
road
is
very
nice
it'll,
be
very
nice
for
the
people
that
live
over
there,
but
most
of
the
people
who
are
needing
to
live
in
affordable
housing.
F
Don't
live
along
bishops,
hodge
road
for
obvious
reasons-
and
I
just
also
point
out
to
commissioner
conway
that
about
your
your
comment
about
bringing
in
additional
impact
visas
from
the
development
of
those
kind
of
areas
and
you're
absolutely
right,
but
just
a
reminder
that
only
about
55
of
the
homes
in
tier
contender
would
actually
pay
impact
fees,
because
the
restaurant
would
be
waived,
but
it's
still
a
significant
amount
and-
and
it
is
in
the
many
many
many
hundreds
of
homes.
F
There
are
five
thousand
over
five
thousand
people
living
in
tiara
contender.
Now,
just
in
the
last
30
years
of
its
construction
and
boy
phase,
three
has
the
it's
the
single
project
in
the
city
that
have
the
biggest
impact
on
affordable
housing,
far
beyond
any
of
the
smaller
projects
that
are
being
done
on
silo
road
or
anywhere
else.
F
B
I
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments
as
well.
Members
and
support
for
del
sol
extension
just
to
clarify
the
city
can
only
subsidize
the
infrastructure
for
the
affordable
housing
portion
of
tierra
contenta
and
since
the
extension
of
paseo
del
sol
serves
the
entire
development
which
is
not
all
affordable.
I
We
are
have
proportioned
that
40
percent
of
the
cost
of
the
road
because
of
like
what
member
o'reilly
said
that
the
40
of
it
is
affordable
housing.
So
we
can
subsidize
40
percent
and
that's
how
the
city
arrives
at
the
compliance
with
the
anti-donation
and
the
affordable
housing
act.
So
it
does
give
us
a
significant
amount
to
contribute
to
what
is
now
estimated
to
be
a
14
million
design
construction
project.
So
thank
you
so
much.
I
H
So
yeah,
even
beyond
the
impact
fees,
I
think
about
the
number.
I
think
that
the
mfa
tosses
around
that
for
every
you
know,
dollar
you
put
into
affordable
housing
investment
you're,
getting
29
back
ish.
I
think
that
was
the
number
that
was
bandied
about
so
another
question
for
any
mr
chair
or
mr
o'reilly
or
or
a
city
staff
or
city
attorney.
H
And
reflecting
back
on
what
some
of
our
previous
members
have
said,
that
this
is
an
approving
body
mainly,
but
there's
no
reason
we
can't
be
an
active
committee
body.
Is
there
anything?
Is
there
anything
this
committee
can
do?
Can
we
can
we
create
a
motion
or
an
action
item
or
request
for
an
action
item
for
the
next
meeting
to
bring
whatever
gap
in
funding
that
exists
at
the
40
threshold
or
whatever,
for
us
to
for
us
to
allocate
some
of
our
ciac
funding
towards
the
construction
of
the
the
paseo
de
cell
extension?
B
Okay,
miss
wheeler.
Do
you
have
a
comment
on
this
or
I
have
a
comment
as
well?
Okay,
go
for
it
I
mean
I,
I
think
that's
a
fair
point.
Member
conway,
my
thought
with
this
is:
we
should
put
it
to
the
staff
in
some
ways
to
help
us
prioritize.
What
are
the
funding
gaps?
What
you
know
if
there's
other
funding,
that's
already
helping
develop
all
that
and
we
aren't
you
know
putting
a
million
towards
it,
doesn't
really
get
them
any
farther.
Then
you
know,
I
would
say,
that's
not
a
priority
for
us.
B
If
they
could
come
to
us
and
say
hey
we've,
we
really
don't
have
the
funding.
There's
we've
looked
in.
You
know
under
all
these
other
rocks-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
number
one
priority
of
all
the
stuff
going
on
in
santa
fe.
Recognizing
that
this
committee
is
behind
that
project
and
thinks
that
that's
important
for
the
city's
growth,
then
I
think
yeah.
H
I
It's
actually
over
funded
at
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
is
the
city,
is
trying
to
get
it
to
tr
contented
we're
getting
hung
up
in
our
procurement,
but
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
that
hurdle
clear
today.
I
So
that's
fully
funded
and
it
will
take
some
time
to
finish
design
at
which
time
we'll
have
a
full
and
accurate
construction
cost
estimate.
We
will
be
applying
for
nmdot
funding
about
this
time
next
year
for
the
construction
of
the
roadway,
we'll
be
asking
for
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
which
will
bring
us
to
about
our
full
subsidy
amount.
I
So
it's
at
that
and
we
do
fully
expect
to
get
funded
by
dot.
How
much
would
be
something
that
we
can
try
to
forecast
for
you,
but
it's
really
next
year
this
time
that
we'd
have
a
much
better
sense
of.
If
there
was
any
funding
gap
there
may
not
be.
G
Oh
yeah
and
I
think
it
makes
sense
not
to
tie
up
money
that
could
be
used
on
other
projects
that
are
more
imminent
than
tierra
contento.
That
is
because
of
where
it's
at
in
the
process.
It's
going
to
take
time
for
it
to
occur.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
with
the
confirmation
of
the
assistant
city
attorney.
We
don't.
We
just
make
recommendations
to
the
governing
body.
Is
that
correct?
G
So
all
we
do
is
recommend
I
mean
we
do
say
we
approve
and
we
probably
should
change
our
emotions
to
have
it
be
that
we
recommend
that
the
governing
body
approve
this
expenditure,
and-
and
I'm
glad
that
all
we
do
is
make
recommendations,
because
it
feels
better
to
me
that
somebody
else
is
making
the
final
decision.
A
Yeah,
mr
chair
member,
clown:
yes,
that
that
is
correct
and
it
is
officially
ciac's
capital
improvement
advisory
committee-
it's
it's
in
the
in
the
name!
But
yes,
technically,
you
are
not
actually
proving
you
are
recommending
approval
to
the
governing
body.
Who
then
actually
proves
or
denies.
F
B
Okay,
are
there
any
other
matters
from
the
committee?
I'm
also
willing
to
give
everyone
45
minutes
of
their
day
back
or
more
whatever.
This
was
scheduled
for
remember,
o'reilly,.
F
Just
real
quickly,
mr
chair,
I'm
wondering
first
of
all
I
want
to
also
thank
lee
for
all
the
work
he's
done
on
this
stepping
in
after
carlos
left
and
before
you
go
lee
to
start
your
new,
your
new
project.
I'm
sure
I'll,
see
you
over
there
since
we're
gonna
be
neighbors.
F
What
is
the
status
of
the
members
of
the
committee
right
now?
I
know
we've
had
some
some
members
who
haven't
shown
up
for
quite
a
while.
Have
other
members
resigned
from
the
committee.
Will
there
be
new
members
appointed.
D
That's
a
great
question,
for
which
I
don't
have
an
answer.
I
mean
I've
noticed
as
well.
There
are
a
couple
of
people.
I
I
don't
really
even
hear
back
from.
D
No
that's
a
great
question
and
we
can
try
and
come
up
with
an
answer
for
you
there.
But
honestly,
I
don't
have
one
now,
because
you
know
I
haven't
had
my
full
attention
on
this
committee.
As
we've
discussed,
I
kind
of
just
keep
putting
together
meetings
as
needed,
but
I
can
ask
jason
that
our
ladies
director
and
get
an
answer
for
you.
D
F
A
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
also
to
answer
that
question.
So
far
as
we
have
been
told
there,
there
are
nine
people
still
officially
on
this
committee.
A
It
probably
is
a
good
idea
to
to
check
with
the
folks
who
have
not
showed
up
to
see
if
they
think
they're
still
on
the
committee,
but
according
to
the
city,
the
the
membership
is
full.
Currently,
okay,.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
good
point,
remember
o'reilly
and
I
for
me
you
know
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
last
meeting
so
again
I
apologize.
It
would
be
helpful
if
we
had
you
know
clear
schedule,
or
you
know
we
can
just
cancel
them
even
if
we
just
want
to
hold
the
time
every
quarter.
Something
like
that.
B
If
there's
no
items
it's
just
a
little
easier
for
for
me,
I
have
sometimes
a
busy
schedule
and
it's
hard
to
make
it
work
last
minute,
but
you
know
this
was
plenty
of
time
plenty
of
notice,
so
maybe
others
were
struggling
with
that.
B
D
Mr
chair,
as
I
understand
it,
from
jason,
we
had
a
candidate
to
be
the
ciac
planner
and
that
fell
through.
I
don't
remember
if
it
was,
we've
had
a
couple
of
planners
fall
through
only
one
for
this
position.
As
far
as
I
understand,
but
we
had
a
guy,
we
couldn't
pay
enough.
We
had
a
guy
who
wanted
relocation
costs
to
come
here,
so
jason
is
still
working
on
it.
D
I
know
we've
got
both
our
assistant
directors
coming
in
soon
and
a
planner
manager,
but
yeah
they're
still
searching
for
a
planner
to
kind
of
dedicate
themselves
more
to
ciac.
We
had
again
we
had
one,
but
it
fell
through.
D
B
F
B
We
know
if
that's
a
rolling
calculation
or
how
you
peg
that,
because,
if
you
spend
it
down,
then
you
can't
pay
for
someone.
F
I'm
not
sure
how
how
that
exactly
works.
I'm
sure
miss
pagali
could
answer
that.
But
in
the
past
the
city
did
have
a
person
who
was
partially
funded.
F
On
a
yearly
basis,
through
impact
fee
funds,
that
person
has
since
retired,
but
that
person
was
being
funded
for
quite
a
while
that
way
partially
anyway,
so
I
think
it's
definitely
doable.
I'm
sure
the
city
could
find
a
way
to
do
that
if
they
wanted
to
okay.
G
Yeah
noah
told
us
quite
a
while
ago
that
that
three
percent
was
going
to
be
used
for
that
position.
I
don't
think
it's
the
problem
of
the
money.
I
think
it's
the
problem
of
being
able
to
find
a
person
in
this
day
and
age
that
wants
the
job
miss.
I
Wheeler,
thank
you
so
much
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
it's
not
about
the
money,
there's
money
to
pay
for
a
1500
relocation.
It's
about
the
process.
Things
are
just
bogged
down
awfully
it's
matt
knows.
Well,
so
it's
yeah!
It's
not
not
the
money.
Okay,.
B
Well,
all
right,
hopefully
something
will
be
found,
but
in
the
meantime,
I
you
know
appreciate
you
spending
your
time
on
this
lee
and
every
you
know
the
rest
of
the
staff,
because
you
guys
are
really
what
make
this
happen.
We're
here,
to
just
provide
a
little
guidance.
B
B
Okay,
meeting
adjourned.