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B
All
right
at
501,
we
are
calling
to
order
the
october
7th
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call,
that'd
be
great.
D
D
C
B
Okay,
with
that,
we
are
there
changes
to
the
agenda
from
staff,
no
other
changes
from
anyone
else.
If
there
are
no
changes,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
for
approval?
Second,
if
you
could
call
the
role
again
or
not
the
role,
but
you
know
what
I
mean.
C
I
got
you
counseling
chris
rivera.
E
D
B
Yes,
all
right,
so,
with
the
approval
of
the
agenda,
we
will
move
to
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items
that
the
committee
would
like
to
discuss.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'd
like
to
remove
items
a
and
d
d,
as
in
dog,.
B
A
and
d,
okay,
anything
else
all
right
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
move
to
approve
is
amended
okay,
and
can
we
call
the
role
again
jennifer.
D
D
B
B
D
B
Yes,
all
right
with
that,
we
will
move
to
the
first
item
that
was
pulled
from
consent.
Counselor
garcia,
we
have
item
a,
I
think,
was
the
first
one.
You
pulled.
D
F
F
So
yeah
deputy
paul
joy
counselor
garcia
to
answer
that
question
this
would
pertain
only
to
santa
fe
police
department.
This
is
an
ordinance
that
would
affect
our
agency,
but
it
also
prohibits
us
from
participating
in
the
execution
of
a
no
knock
search
warrant.
That
hypothetically
were
one
to
be
approved
for
another
agency.
We
would
not
participate.
D
F
Understanding
that
so
counselor
garcia
members
of
the
committee-
I
I
think,
I'm
understanding
you
correctly.
I
want
to
I'll
I'll
rephrase.
This
basically
prohibits
our
agency
from
being
able
to
acquire
a
no
knock
search
warrant
to
execute
within
the
city
limits.
D
Okay
and-
and
so
I
guess
my
follow-up-
and
I
definitely
understood
that
deputy
chief
joey,
so
thank
you
for
the
clarification,
but
I
guess
my
my
kind
of
further
question
is:
are
we
going
to
prohibit
the
issuance
of
no
knock
warrants
in
general
that
way,
county
state
or
federal
law
enforcement
couldn't
apply
for
that,
and
does
this
pertain
to
that.
F
F
D
Okay
is
mayor,
webber
on
by
chance.
G
I'm
only
here
by
the
by
the
virtue
of
your
chair,
letting
me
be
here.
That's
all.
D
So
I
guess,
as
a
sponsor,
I've
got
a.
I
guess,
the
question
more
so
pertains
to
you:
were
you
solely
trying
to
limit
the
engagement
of
sfpd
or
engagement
across
all
law
enforcement
spectrum?
Thank
you.
G
For
the
question,
I
think
the
my
intent
after
looking
at
what
we've
seen
around
the
country
was
to
make
sure
that,
as
far
as
we
were
concerned
as
a
jurisdiction
and
as
a
police
department,
our
policies
would
be
preventing
tragedies
from
happening
and
that
we
would
have
a
clear
statement
of
our
own
way
of
doing
business
as
a
police
department
and
as
a
city.
So
I
did
not
intend
that
we
could
or
should
extend
our
authority
outside
our
own
jurisdiction.
But
I
did
want
us.
G
I
would
hope
that
we
would
want
to
be
on
the
side
of
protecting
people
from
this
kind
of
use
of
this
kind
of
a
warrant.
D
Okay,
I
mean,
given
that
we
within
our
own
police
force,
haven't
used
this
in
many
years.
Do
we
know
how
often
it's
been
used
in
general
by
other
law
enforcement
agencies.
F
I
can
jump
in
a
little
bit
council,
garcia
members
of
committee
that
I
reached
out
to
the
new
mexico
law
enforcement
academy,
who
obviously
is
the
certifying
agency
for
all
of
our
our
law
enforcement
certifications.
The
attorney
who,
who
teaches
the
law
block
in
case
law,
said
basically
to
his
understanding.
He
couldn't
give
me
an
exact
date,
but
basically,
as
a
state,
it's
been
roughly
20
years
since
an
agency
in
the
state
has
sought
the
execution
of
a
no
knock
search
warrant,
specifically.
D
Okay,
no
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
I
think
that
helps.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
weren't
missing
anything
if
we
were
having
a
lot
of
requests
come
in
potentially
from
federal
law
enforcement
or
state,
and
you
know
if,
if
we're
missing
that,
then
I
think
we
should
make
that
part
of
this
legislation,
or
at
least
I
would
ask
the
sponsor
we
look
into
that.
That's
all
the
questions
I
have.
G
Madam
chair,
could
I
just
add
one
I
it's
always
better
to
shut
up
after
people
are
happy,
but
I
did
want
to
just
clarify
one
point:
the
there
is
an
as
you
could
imagine,
councillor
garcia,
the
u.s
conference
of
mayors
and
other
city
organizations
have
been
looking
in
detail
at
public
safety
and
police
department
policies,
and
so
in
my
the
derivation
of
this
was
my
reading
up
on
these
other
recommendations
from
national
organizations
and
and
mayors
organizations
about
things
that
will
put
us
in
line
with
best
practice,
and
I
don't
think
our
department
has
been
utilizing
this
tool,
but
I
think
we
can
put
ourselves
in
in
a
position
where
we're
assuring
people
that,
as
a
as
a
community,
we
get
the
concern,
that's
been
expressed
nationally
and
we
want
to
be
following
best
practice,
as
advised
by
u.s
conference
of
mayors,
police
advisers
and
others.
G
D
D
B
Oops,
I'm
muted,
a
deputy
chief.
Sorry,
I
I
called
you
a
captain,
I
I
I
know
better
than
that
and
and
I
I
should
have
called
you
chief,
you
know
you
always
aim
higher
than
you
should
so
sorry
about
that.
We
will
now
go
to
councillor.
Rivera.
Has
a
question
or
two.
I
F
Council
rivera
members
of
the
committee
that
is
correct
and
again
we.
What
this
would
allow
us
is
if
a
federal
agency
or
state
agency
or
or
a
county
agency,
were
to
seek
the
execution
of
this
type
of
warrant
and
we're
going
to
request
our
assistance.
I
Okay,
so
that
leads
to
my
next
question:
if
we
were
going
to
do
a
not
a
no
knock
but
just
a
simple
going
into
a
residence-
and
we
invited
other
jurisdictions
to
to
come
in
and
they
felt
like
it
should
be
a
no
knock.
Could
they
then
decide
not
to
participate.
F
Councillor
rivera
and
members
of
the
committee-
assuming
I
understand
the
question
correctly-
if
they
had
a
disagreement
about
the
status
or
the
nature
of
the
warrant
that
we
were
going
to
get
they
they,
it
would
be
within
their
purview
to
not
participate
if
they
didn't
want
to.
We
can't
compel
another
agency
to
participate
in
our
warrant.
I
And
then
I
think
you
touched
on
it,
but
vice
versa.
If
the
fbi
came
in
and
they
were
gonna,
they
had
a
no
knock
warrant.
I
heard
you
say
that
we
would
be
prohibited
to
pursue
participate
in
that,
but
they
could
still
follow
through
with
their
no
knock
warrant
within
the
city
limits
and
what
agencies
does
that
stop
at?
Is
it
just
federal?
Is
it
if
the
county
or
state
decided
to
to
issue
a
no
warrant
or
a
no
knock
warrant
within
the
city
limits?
I
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
seeing
none.
What
is
the
pleasure
of
the
I
have.
J
J
Sorry
go
ahead,
counselor
actually
counselor
yvette
asked
the
same
question
I
had
so.
If
it
was
another
jurisdiction
they
they
could
still
issue
that
kind
of
warrant,
even
without
our
participation
is.
What
I
hear
is
that
correct
deputy
chief.
F
Yes,
counselor
via
rail.
That
is
correct
just
by
the
nature
of
the
search
warrants
themselves,
but
assuming
they
go
through
district
court
for
the
search
warrant,
which
is
kind
of
standard
practice.
It's
a
district
court
order
allowing
the
search
and
whatever
parameters
outlined
in
the
search,
but
we
as
an
agency
would
not
be
participating
in
the
execution
of
that
warrant.
J
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
I'll
be.
I
guess
I
wanted
to.
I
also
want
to
be
a
co-sponsor
for
this
and
I
think
it
is
a
proactive
approach,
even
though
we
haven't
had
this
practice
in
play
for
you
said
10
years,
so
I
think
we
need
to
keep
going
with
that,
and
this
will
probably
be
a
proactive
way
to
approach
that.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
B
D
B
B
Yes,
all
right
with
that,
we
will
move
hold
on
gotta
get
primegov
to
cooperate
with
me.
B
To
the
sorry.
B
To
the
next
item
that
was
pulled
from
the
agenda,
which
is
item
d
request
for
approval
of
a
lease
agreement
between
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
the
interfaith
community,
shelter
group,
counselor,
garcia,
pulled
this
item,
and
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
highlight
that
the
quality
of
life
committee
was
created
to
give
this
kind
of
an
an
issue,
a
platform
to
be
discussed.
B
And
so
tonight
you
know.
Not
only
are
we
talking
about
this
lease,
but
I
think
we're
talking
about
the
home,
the
the
issue
of
homelessness
in
in
the
city
and
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
city
is
doing
to
address
this
issue
and
how
the
interfaith
community
shelter
fits
into
our
strategies
to
address
homelessness
in
the
city,
and
so
I
am
very
interested
in
this
presentation
or
conversation.
B
We
we
started
it
at
finance
committee
monday
night,
and
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
conversation
that
this
committee
was
developed
so
that
we
could
bring.
You
know
the
kind
of
more
context,
more
substance
to
the
to
the
surface,
about
our
overall
strategy.
So,
for
me,
this
is
not
just
about
this
lease,
but
it's
about
what
we
do
with
regard
to
the
issue
in
general.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here
and
council
garcia.
I
believe
you
pulled
this.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
joe
and
dan
for
being
here
as
well.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
the
services
provided
by
the
shelter
are
critical
and
it's
it's.
The
impact
that
it
has
on
the
community
is
positive,
and
I
want
to
applaud
you,
joe
and
and
dan
and
your
board
of
directors,
for
the
the
continuous
support
that
you
provide,
those
folks
that
are
most
in
need
in
our
community.
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
D
B
No,
I
I
think
you
can
ask
directly.
They
were
invited
here
again
to
give
more
context
to
not
only
this
lease,
but
I
I
hope
I
think
we
have
another
guest
here
that
may
be
able
to
help
us
with
with
some
of
the
strategies
that
we're
employing
toward
this
issue.
I
also
just
if,
if
you
are
not
here
for
this
item,
if
you
could
turn
your
video
off,
that
would
be
great,
apparently
we're
having
a
youtube
issue,
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that
so
anyway,
thank
you.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
clarification,
madam
chair.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
shelter
has
been
successful
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
there's
success
in
the
future,
and
so
with
that
my
questions
more
so
pertain
around
sustainability
and
what
those
plans
for
sustainability
are
and
what
that
looks
like
and
what
what
what
your
plans
are
for
four
years
down
the
road,
maybe
10
years
down
the
road.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
them,
you
know
20
years
down
the
road.
What's
what's
your
ultimate
goal,
what
what's
the
impact
you
want
to
have?
D
What's
the
legacy
of
the
shelter
you
want
to
have
on
our
community?
So
with
that,
I
know
that
lease
is
that
that's
currently
in
front
of
us
is
for
four
years,
and
so
my
question
is
what
what
is
next
after
four-year?
Should
this
come
before
us
again?
What
what
is
the
next
steps.
D
Dan
feel
free
or
joe
chime
in
I
I
think
you
all
are
best
equipped
to
answer
that
question.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
learn
more
about
the
next
steps,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
are
we
going
to
in
four
years
have
this
come
in
front
of
us
again
and
and
say
we
would
like
to
renew
the
space
for
another
four
years
or
is
there
other
grandiose
plans?
D
That's
that
in
four
years,
you're
saying
thanks
for
letting
letting
us
use
the
space,
but
we've
been
working
towards
looking
at
occupying
a
new
space
and
it's
been
a
great
partnership.
But
this
is
where
we're
heading
it,
and
I
just
wanted
a
little
more
context
and
background,
maybe
into
that.
K
Thank
you,
madam
councillor,
chair
and
councillor
garcia.
K
The
shelter
has
always
been
a
partnership.
This
shelter
has
always
been
a
partnership
with
the
city.
It
was
born
about
12
years
ago,
when
the
city
suffered
a
large
number
of
deaths
of
homeless
people
from
hypothermia,
and
I
was
one
of
the
organizers
with
several
of
the
other
faith
communities
in
the
city
to
come
to
the
city
and
say:
look,
this
is
a
city
problem
and
we're
willing
to
staff
this
thing
if
you'll
give
us
a
place
to
be
because
we
had
spent
a
lot
of
time
every
summer
trying
to
find
a
new
place.
K
The
city
then
spent
a
year
looking
for
an
appropriate
location
for
this
place
and
the
city
finally
settled
on
pete's
place.
For
several
reasons.
One
was
the
size
of
the
place
and
the
fact
that
we
could
renovate
it
the
way
it
had
to
be,
and
we
were
going
to
pay
for
the
conduct
the
renovations
they
liked
to
sit
the
location
on
major
bus
routes.
K
K
But
the
city
didn't
do
that
and
a
series
of
complaints
followed
over
time
and
we
have
repeatedly
met
with
the
neighbors
and
with
the
city
to
try
to
address
these
problems,
and
we've
done
a
great
deal
to
try
to
address
these
problems.
So
far,
we've
put
cap
cameras
capturing
what
happens
on
and
off
the
property,
including
on
harrison
and
jorgensen,
as
requested
by
the
neighbors.
K
We've
attended
many
meetings
with
the
city
and
with
neighbors
we
pick
up
the
trash
around
the
entire
block.
Every
day
we
provide
day
services
to
try
to
ameliorate
the
needs
of
and
rehabilitate
homeless
people,
shelter
hired
a
person
with
both
case
management
and
security
capabilities,
as
requested
by
the
city,
shelter
staff
is
accessible
to
neighbors
and
is
very
responsive
to
their
requests.
K
K
We
have
a
policy
of
returning
people
from
whence
they
came
usually
out
of
state
if
they
have
a
family
or
friend
to
go
to,
but
we
do
not
send
people
to
other
shelters.
We
are
trying
to
lessen
the
burden
on
the
city
and
the
county.
We
are
a
shelter
of
last
resort.
We
are
a
no
conditions,
shelter.
We
are
the
bottom
of
the
city's
safety
net.
K
K
We
see
about
a
little
over
a
thousand
people
every
winter
and
councilor
garcia.
I
would
say
out
of
that
thousand
it's
maybe
about
120
or
really
the
chronically
homeless.
These
are
people
who
have
severe
mental
health
problems,
have
substance,
use
problems
or
just
so
totally
lost
they.
They
don't
want
to
move
on.
K
Will
we
ever
provides
enough
services,
so
those
people
do
not
need
the
winter
shelter?
The
answer
to
you
is,
I
hope
so,
but
having
been
working
in
this
area
for
12
years
and
joe
has
been
working
in
this
area
for
over
30,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
they're
ever
going
to
be
suitable
for
the
kinds
of
housing
that
the
mayor
is
and
the
city
is
hoping
to
create.
K
We
originally
asked
for
we
had
originally,
I
want
to
correct
something
said
to
the
either
the
council,
the
finance
committee,
I
don't
remember
which,
but
we
we
originally
the
shelter,
had
a
10-year
lease
with
the
city
with
three
three-year
checkouts
and
we
proposed
to
the
city
a
nine
year
lease
with
two
optional
renewals,
the
city
came
back
and
said:
no
we're
trying
to
standardize
all
of
our
leases
at
four
years.
K
Let's,
let's
do
a
four
year
lease,
and
we
thought
about
that,
and
I
want
to
say
that
a
four
year
lease
is
the
minimum
term
that
I
think
we
can
support,
because
we
have
grants
that
currently
are
running
for
more
than
four
years
that
we
already
have.
K
K
K
I
think
we
are
going
to
be
where
we
are
now
it's
possible
that
the
city's
efforts
will
be
sufficiently
successful,
that
we
can
not
be
housing,
120
people
a
night
pre-coded
and
that
you
know,
but
we'll
be
there
for
the
people
who
absolutely
have
nowhere
else
to
go.
No
one
else
will
take
them.
We
were
asked
the
other
day
in
finance,
several
counselors
said.
Well,
we
don't
hear
any
problems
about
saint
ez.
Why
is
that?
Well,
it's
easy
to
tell
you
why
that
is.
K
So
I
don't
have
a
crystal
ball,
but
I'm
fairly
sure
that
the
city
is
going
to
need
some
kind
of
baseline
shelter
for
people
who
can't
make
it
anywhere
else.
We
don't
have
a
stake
in
this.
We
are
a
collection
of
faith
communities
and
we
have
a
small
staff.
We
run
largely
on
2
000
volunteers
a
year
who
come
to
the
shelter
and
provide
service
and
food,
and
our
staff
is
very
small.
K
Our
administrative
overhead
is
shockingly
small
compared
to
almost
any
other
c3
non-profit,
I'm
aware
of
will.
Will
we
I,
but
one
thing
that
I
will
hope
that
actually
changes
is
that
I
hope
that
we
can
improve
the
situation
in
our
neighborhood.
We
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
care
about
those
people
as
much
as
any
of
you
do
it's
just
that
our
authority
is
limited
to
the
pro
the
property
we
occupy.
We
have
no
authority
in
the
street,
we
have
no
authority
down
the
street.
K
We
have
sought
repeatedly
and
we've
brainstormed
with
the
city
and
with
the
neighbors
and
over
the
these
many
years
we
have
sought
city
lighting
and
sidewalks
on
harrison
street,
which
may
finally
be
coming
now.
But
I've
heard
that
before
I
think,
lighting
and
sidewalks
would
help
a
lot.
K
K
We
heard
from
kira
ochoa
the
other
night,
a
a
wonderful
array
of
behavioral
support
services
with
the
fire
department
and
miho
and
other
providers
to
provide
the
kinds
of
services
that
our
guests
and
the
people
who
are
most
of
the
people
by
the
way
who
are
causing
problems
on
harrison
street
are
not
shelter.
Guests
they're
not
allowed
on
the
shelter
because
they
don't
behave
on
the
shelter
either
when
they're
in
the
shelter
and
so
they're
not
allowed
in,
and
we
have
no
jurisdiction
over
them
when
they're
on
harrison.
K
B
Mister
yohalam,
I
think
we've
moved
away
from
the
answer
to
the
question
and
again
we
we
don't
have
endless
time
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
cut
you
off
and
ask
the
counselor
garcia
continue
with
his
questions.
We
do
have
another
presentation
and
I
I
think
some
of
the
the
information
that
you're
talking
about
is
valuable
and
I
think,
may
come
out
with
other
questions
being
asked.
So
if
you
don't
mind.
D
L
D
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
joe
holland
and
and
you
bring
up
a
great
point
of
the
success.
As
you
say,
of
this
partnership
relies
on
a
lot
on
the
city.
So
I
guess
maybe
cara
what
do
you
see
in
four
years?
What
what's
the
plan?
What
what's
the
sustainability
plan
for
this,
because
if,
if
mr
joe
hollam's
correct,
then
what
what
on
our
end
are
we
looking
at
because
in
four
years,
are,
if
we're
so
lucky
to
have
you
still
with
us
with
the
city?
M
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
I
don't
think
that
any
of
us
knows
exactly
what
the
future
holds
and
the
question
of
whether
there'll
always
be
a
need
for
this
shelter
is
a
really
interesting
one,
and
I
think
that
tonight
we
have
someone
with
us
that
has
founded
the
the
built
for
zero
movement
and
is
the
founder
of
community
solutions.
M
Roseanne
haggerty
is
with
us,
and
I
can
say
a
little
bit
to
your
question,
but
I'd
love
miss
hagerty
to
be
able
to
talk
about
what
she's
seen
around
in
other
communities
but
in
terms
of
our
plan
in
terms
of
how
we
provide
meet,
you
know
meet
the
city's
obligation
to
to
be
a
partner
with
the
shelter
which
we
very
much
want
to
be.
In
our
you
heard,
a
finance
committee
meeting
chief
padilla
announced
the
community
policing
effort
that
will
be
on
going
on
around
the
the
the
shelter
and
that's
key.
M
I
think,
that'll
be
very
good.
I
think
we
also
have,
as
I
mentioned
at
finance
on
on
the
other
night,
a
plan
underway
to
really
get
into
coordinated
street
outreach
so
that
the
people
who
are
on
the
streets,
who
are
really
even
beyond
being
able
to
be
helped
at
pete's,
can
forge
relationships
with
people
that
can
get
them
connected
to
behavioral
health
services
and
other
services.
They
might
need.
That's
the
missing
link
that
we've
really
had
here
in
santa
fe
and
that
we've
been
struggling
with
and
so
we're.
M
M
I
think
there
we've
said
last
time
we
were
asking
too
much
of
peats
and
we
need
to
continue
to
create
relief
valves
for
pete,
so
that
pete's
can
be
what
it
is,
which
is
a
you
know,
an
emergency
shelter
that
prevents
hypothermia
deaths,
not
a
de
facto
mental
health
institution,
for
example,
or
a
long-term
stay
for
some
people
that
have
certain
for
women,
for
example,
who
are
now
staying
year
round
or
have
been
so.
M
We
need
to
look
at
how
to
bolster
other
parts
of
the
services
system
with
permanent
supportive
housing
with
transitional
permanent,
supportive
housing
that
might
be
a
compliment
to
the
county's
crisis
center.
That's
another
project,
we've
got
underway,
and
then
you
know,
I
think
that
we're
looking
at
a
long-term
strategic
plan-
and
we
have
put
a
stake
in
the
ground-
that
we
want
to
end
chronic
homelessness.
M
Now
chronic
homelessness
is
defined
as
people
being
homeless
for
12
months
or
more
essentially,
and
as
mr
joe
holland
mentioned,
that
might
be
about
120
people
out
of
the
thousand
that
come
through
pete's,
so
that
isn't
going
to
relieve
every
every
need
that
pizza
is
serving,
but
it
will
take
a
care
of
housing,
some
people
and
getting
them
stabilized
in
a
way
that
will
help
relieve
pressure
on
what's
happening
inside
and
perhaps
outside
of
pizza
as
well.
I.
D
D
It
does
and
thank
you-
and
I
think
you
know
what
I'm
learning
from
this
is
that
we
need
to
work
closely
with
joe
and
dan
to
develop
what
this
plan
is
and
bring
in
maybe
miss
hegerty
and
start
establishing
some
type
of
strategic
plan,
some
sustainability
plan,
because
I
I
think
it's
necessary,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
continue
on
on
this.
I
know
our
time
is
limited
because
I
do
have
one
other
question,
and
so
thank
you
cara.
D
I
really
appreciate
it,
so
I
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
around
what
is
the
responsibility
of
the
shelter
in
regards
to
just
being
being
a
great
neighbor.
D
I
know
it's
been
stated
that
it's
you
know
the
the
shelter
has
only
so
much
authority
beyond
its
boundaries,
but
but
in
some
instances
how
would
we
as
a
city
whether
it
is
a
private
residence
or
a
business
that
is
becoming
bringing
somewhat
nuisance
activities
to
the
neighborhood?
D
How
would
we
work
to
remedy
the
issue?
And
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
question
for
the
police
force
or
who,
because
I
know
you
know
in
one
day's
finance
meeting
it
was.
You
know
there
was
over
500
calls
to
to
the
shelter
or
surrounding
area
this
year,
just
for
the
police
force,
and
you
know
to
nearly
200
for
fire
department
folks,
and
so
I'm
just
immediately
thinking.
D
We
want
to
ensure
that
the
community
is
safe.
But
how
would
we
try
to
remedy
the
issue
if
it
wasn't
the
shelter?
Let's
say
it
was
another
business
that
was
causing
unwanted
activities
in
in
in
the
area.
I
know
if
it
was
a
house,
for
example,
we
have
the
nuisance
ordinance
and
there's
so
many
things
that
can
happen
before
we
take
that
proactive
action
against
the
homeowner,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
same
actions
for
a
business.
D
But
what
is
I
guess?
Ultimately
it
does
come
down
to.
I
think
the
responsibility
does
lie
a
little
more
with
the
entity
and
and
if
that
is
falls
on
us
as
if
we're
partners,
how
do
we
begin
to
remedy
the
issue
issue,
because
I
think
it's
it's
also
evident
and
clear
by
by
just
the
outreach
of
the
community
that
there
need
to
be
some
changes
made,
and
so
I
guess
this
is
a
question
for
joe
or
dan.
What
what
kind
of
conversations
are
held?
D
If
we
can't
take
you
in
tonight,
please
don't
go
out
in
the
community
and
do
x,
y
and
z
what
what
kind
of
proactive
measures
are
taken,
because
I
think,
when
you
know,
especially
when
covet
hit
folks
were
used
to
going
to
the
shelter
and
then
there
was
a
capacity
issue
and
so
those
folks
that
couldn't
utilize
the
facilities
were
unfortunately
put
at
midtown
a
hotel
or
elsewhere,
and
so
I
don't
know
what
what
kind
of
neighborly
good
neighborly
tactics
does
the
shelter
take
in
regards
to
look,
we
we
want
to
ensure
that
our
guests
are
clear,
that
the
shelter
does
not
condone
you
know
going
out
and
doing
drugs
in
a
in
a
homeowner's
yard
or
doing
everything
that
we've
us
counselors
have
received
via
email.
D
D
L
Sure,
first
of
all,
counselor,
madam
chair,
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
every
person
who
enters
the
shelter
for
overnight
state
signs
a
contract
with
us,
what
we're
providing
them
and
what
we
expect
in
return
for
their
behavior.
Just
so
you
know
that,
but
we
really
work
actively
our
case
manager,
myself
or
administrative
assistant.
L
We
are
out
on
that
street
with
some
frequency,
real
frequency,
encouraging
people
to
move
telling
them
that
their
behavior
is
a
reflection
of
the
shelter
that
and
that
you
know,
if,
if
you
don't
alter
your
behavior
and
move
what's
going
to
happen,
is
the
shelter
is
going
to
be
shut
down
for
everybody
and
and
stuff
like
that?
We
we
clean
the
street
not
just
not
just
to
go
around
on
a
daily
basis,
but
we
clean
the
street
after
we
ask
people
to
move.
L
I've
had
my
staff
power
washed
across
the
street,
where
people
were
camping
out
and
and
creating
problems
and
leaving
behind
you
know,
feces
and
stuff.
Like
that,
I
had
my
staff
out
there.
We
rented
power
washes
we,
you
know,
we
just
cleaned
that
whole
area
out.
We,
you
know,
but
we
are
always
actively
working
to
move
people
on
or
to
encourage
those
who
are
out
there
who
belong.
L
Who
can
who
can
be
on
the
property
to
come
onto
the
property
and
in
part,
when
dan
mentioned
the
metal
awning,
that
we
created
with
heaters
and
lights
and
everything
else
that
that
in
part
was
of
course,
an
effort
to
help
keep
the
guests
protected
during
the
winter
months.
But
it
is
also
an
effort,
particularly
in
the
summer,
to
provide
them
with
shade
and
cooling,
which
there
is
none
on
the
street
really
or
in
the
parking
lot,
so
that
they
would
be
encouraged
to
stay
on
the
property.
So,
council.
K
In
addition,
councillor
we've
I
mean
we
have
porta
potties
and
I
insist
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
problem
on
harrison
street
is
not
people
who
stay
at
the
shelter
right.
The
people
who
stay
at
the
shelter
come
to
the
shelter
for
resource
services
and
and
council
renee
real,
I
can
see,
is
nodding
her
head,
and
you
know
we
agree
on
this.
K
I
mean
the
problem
is
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
hovering
nearby
and
by
creating
a
covered
space
for
the
entrance
and
heating
it
and
the
awning
I
mean
we
are
gathering
the
people
who
belong
in
the
shelter
off
the
street
and
onto
our
property.
That's
what
we
do
and
we
talk
to
them
about
their
behavior
and
they
sign
a
contract,
and
I
mean
I,
I
think,
we're
trying
to
make
good
citizens
out
of
them,
and
I
think
everybody
would
agree.
That's
not
the
problem.
K
The
problem
is
a
group
of
other
people
and
what
they
do,
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
the
shelter,
and
it's
really
difficult
to
tell
you
that
you
know
there's
something
we
can
do
counselor
garcia,
we
the
shelter
about
that.
I
think
it
it
takes
our
providing
the
information.
We
know
those
people
we
have
given
the
police,
the
information
about
them,
we've
given
the
behavioral
health
people,
their
information,
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
help
the
city's
resources
deal
with
them.
D
Him
I
was
implying
that
it
was
the
guests,
I
think
you
know
the
services
being
provided,
attract
a
certain
clientele
and
that's
why
I
gave
the
example.
If
we
were,
if
it
was
a
let's
say
if
it
was
a
bar,
for
example,
and
the
bar
was
attracting
patrons
that
were
rowdy
every
friday
and
saturday
night
and
once
they
got
out
of
the
bar,
they
were
going
down
the
street
breaking
windows,
and
how
can
we.
D
How
can
we
be
proactive
and
ensure
that
we
are
working
with
the
folks
that
are
in
the
surrounding
areas
to
either
provide
them
support
and
assistance
that
way
we
can
get
them
off
the
street
as
well,
or
help
to
educate
that
hey
look.
This
is
the
wrong
place
to
be
doing
whatever
it
is.
D
That's
not
wanted
in
those
areas-
and
I
think
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
in
regards
to
you-
can
only
control
what's
in
within
your
boundaries,
but
I
guess
I'm
more
so
looking
for
recommendations
how
we
can
maybe,
if
it's
developing
a
program
where
it's
a
community
stewardship
program
where
we
have
active
volunteers
that
might
go
out
to
help
these
individuals
that
might
not
be
guests
of
the
space
but
they're
actively
supporting
the
the
folks
in
the
community
as
well.
So
I
don't
know:
do
you
think
that
might.
K
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
an
excellent
idea,
counselor,
and
I
think
that
kira
has
spoken
before
about
trying
to
get
more
people
with
mental
health
background
and
social
work
background
on
the
street
dealing
with
some
of
these
people.
I
I
just
want
to
do
a
footnote
for
a
second,
and
maybe
it's
just
a
lawyer
in
me,
a
nuisance
is
where
it's
something
we're
doing.
I
mean
we're
not
creating
we're,
not
getting
people
drunk
and
sending
them
out
on
the
street.
K
That's
a
nuisance,
we're
not
doing
something
to
these
people,
and
then
they
go
on
the
street
and
they
cause
a
nuisance.
That
would
be
a
nuisance.
That's
not
it
we're
running
a
tight
ship.
The
problem
is,
it
has
attracted
some
other
people
who
are
hangers
on
and
who
are
out
in
the
community,
and
we
want
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
provide
them
services
or,
if
they're
violating
the
law,
send
them
to
jail,
and
we
work
with
the
city
by
identifying
those
people.
K
But
I
think
that
it
has
got
to
be
a
city
effort
to
try
to
get
other
people
out
on
the
street
to
help
with
those
people
that
we
just
can't
deal
with
and
who
aren't
ours
to
deal
with
and
we're
not
creating
the
nuisance.
They
hadn't
been
on
our
property
and
gone
off
and
done
something
terrible.
They
never
come
on
our
property
because
they're
not
allowed
so
we're
not
a
nuisance.
But
I
understand
your
analogy,
but
the
lawyer
and
me
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
B
Actually,
counselor
garcia,
if
I
might,
this
actually
is
a
bigger
question
that
probably
shouldn't
be
directed
to
the
shelter,
but
maybe
to
kira
about
all
the
things
that
the
city
is
doing
with
regard
to
homelessness.
That
should
and
have
taken
the
pressure
off
of
pete's
place,
shelter,
pete's
place
or
the
interfaith
shelter.
However,
you
want
to
refer
to
it
and
if,
if
it's
okay,
I
think
she
should
give
you
some
of
that
context.
D
Yeah
and
actually
thank
you,
madam
chair,
my
question
mike.
I
was
kind
of
going
towards
clarification
from
from
cara
in
regards.
I
know
with
our
restructuring
it's
going
to
allow
for
some
hiring
of
some
new
staff
that
might
be
able
to
accommodate
this
resource
or
the
need
we
see
in
the
community
and
so
what
potential
plans?
D
Might
you
have
with
this
new
flexibility
with
the
restructuring
how
in
it
and
how
it
might
be
able
to
fill
the
gaps
and
support
the
needs
we're
currently
seeing
not
only
in
harrison,
I
would
say
in
the
surrounding
communities,
because
I
think
you
know
on
monday,
it
was
mentioned
at
impacts
district
one.
Well,
it
also
accounts
for
cassette
sanchez.
It
impacts
district
four,
I
would
argue
it
impacts
the
entire
city.
D
So
I
would
think
how
can
we
look
at
utilizing
this
restructure
to
provide
those
supports
to
those
folks
that
might
not
be
guests
at
the
shelter
and
ensure
that
they're
getting
the
supports
they
need?
And
we
can
help
alleviate
the
pressure
on
the
immediate
surrounding
communities
and
wherever
else
the
ripples
might
be
felt.
M
Adam
chair,
counselor,
garcia.
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question
about
the
reorg
because
it
is
very
relevant.
I
wanted
to
return
to
one
point
you
made
earlier
about
something
that
I
think
is
relevant
today.
M
Right
now,
in
the
immediate
we've
been
working
closely
with
joe
and
his
staff,
who
are
very
concerned
because
their
census
has
to
stay
low
during
covet
about,
what's
going
to
happen
for
people,
you
know
in
the
coming
winter
who
who
have
no
place
to
go
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
this
committee
know
that
we
have
received
agreement.
H
M
The
salvation
army
to
act
as
a
cold
weather
shelter
over
this
winter
and
that
will
go
further
to
relieving
the
the
pressure
on
pete's.
I
don't
know
about
this.
You
know
solution
in
the
streets
surrounding,
but
I
think
it
it's
all
to
the
good
of
not
making
one
entity
hold
hold
the
bag
as
it
were
on
everything.
So
that's
just
something
I
thought
this
committee
might
want
to
know
and
of
course,
we'll
be
coming
to
council
with
that
with
that
contract,
as
soon
as
we
have
it.
M
So
to
your
question
about
the
reorg,
you
know,
I
think
I
don't.
I
don't
know
how
many
new
staff
will
be
able
to
hire
with
the
reorg,
since
we
didn't
a
lot
of
new
budget
to
hire
staff,
but
we
do
have
some.
We
are
looking
at,
you
know
being
able
to
bring
in
some
more
social
workers
who
can
help
with
responses
on
the
street.
M
I
think
you
know
the
idea
that
we
need
to
get
a
really
high
quality
of
response
to
people
who
are
are
basically
suffering
and
making
others
suffer
with
their
behavior
on
the
streets
is
really
where
we
have
to
think
about
targeting
efforts.
We
have.
We
have
to
look
at
all
angles
and
I'll
leave
that
to
to
some
degree,
our
new
director
and
as
well
as
the
task
force
and
working
with
all
of
us
to
really
say
what
resources
do
we
have
within
these.
You
know,
departments
that
are
now
coming
together.
M
That
might
respond.
I
mean
a
beautiful
example
of
something
the
city
did.
Amazingly
well
was
the
mijo
project
right
and
that
was
very
effective,
using
ems
staff
and
and
to
to
to
analyze
that
you
know
so
much
of
our
911
data
has
to
do
with
man
down
calls
with
behavioral
health
calls
and
those
folks
on
the
mijo
team
have
that
capability
to
go
out
how
to
pull
through
that
capacity.
M
You
know
to
really
create
a
kind
of
street
outreach,
that's
going
to
make
all
the
difference
for
people,
so
I
think
it's
not
necessarily.
I
mean
I
have
some
ideas,
but
I
think
it'll
be
a
joint
effort.
The
task
force
certainly
will
will
be
helpful
in
giving
us
some
direction
around
that,
and
I
think
we
have
to
look,
though,
at
our
existing
resources
and
changing
the
way
we've
been
doing
things
we
think
we've
been.
I
think
I've
shared
this
with
you
spending
3.4
million
dollars,
not
solving
the
homelessness
problem
every
year.
M
How
can
we,
you
know,
really
take
a
look
at
how
we
use
our
our
staff
time,
our
other
resources
to
to
address
this
holistically,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
impose
too
much
on
this
committee,
but
we
have
a
really
great
expert
in
our
midst
around
how
this
has
been
done
nationally.
So,
madam
chair,
if
there's
any
opportunity
to
have
ms
haggerty
speak
to
this,
I
think
it
would
be
valuable
for
the
community
to
hear
yeah.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
kyra.
I
I
do
I
just
so
she
knows
I
I
if,
if
she
doesn't
naturally
fit
into
counselor
garcia's
questions,
I
I
do
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
from
her
tonight
and
I
I
am
really
grateful
for
her
being
here
and
I
think
the
both
the
committee
and
the
broader
community
understanding
the
built
for
zero
program
directly
from
from
her
will
will
be
valuable
in
in
this
overarching
conversation.
B
So
again,
councilor
garcia
has
the
floor
and
we
will
be
referring
to
miss
haggerty
when
it's
appropriate.
B
D
I
hope
I
answered
your
question
you
you
did
and-
and
I
just
hope
that
you
know-
because
I,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
we
allocated
750
000
for
services
such
as
this,
and
I
hope
they
haven't
been
earmarked
already,
because
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
place
where
we
can
allocate
some
of
those
resources
and
have
an
immediate
impact
in
the
community.
That's
all
the
questions
I
have
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
you
know,
thank
you
dan
and
joe
for
the
great
work
you
all
do
with
the
shelter.
D
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
the
services
you
provide
are
critical
and
it's
not.
We
don't
we're
not
trying
to
eliminate
those
services,
but
you
know,
I
think,
you're
the
gist
of
what
I'm
hoping
is.
We
can
strengthen
that
partnership,
build
a
sustainable
plan
and
you
know
hopefully
relieve
some
of
the
pressure
off
the
community
and
take
some
of
this
miss
hegarty's
input
and
build
build
a
quality
program
where
other
cities
can
model
after
so
so
with
that.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll,
go
ahead
and
relinquish
the
floor.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
councilor
rivera.
I
know
you
don't
sit
on
finance,
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
opportunity.
If
you
had
questions
and
if
you
don't,
we
can
go
to
counselor
via
royale
and
then
I
also
have
some
no.
I
do.
I
Either
for
dan
or
joe,
really
how
many
full-time
staff
do
you
have
at
the
shelter.
I
We
have
four
full-time
staff:
four
full-time
staff;
okay,
you
mentioned
about
meeting
with
neighbors
and
and
business
owners.
Do
you
know
when
the
last
time
the
meeting
with
business
owners
or
residential
neighbors
was.
K
It
was
probably
about
a
year
ago
in
our
various
agreements
with
the
city.
The
city
is
to
call
those
meetings
and
we
come
and
we've
been
at
every
meeting.
The
city
has
called,
and
I'm
just
not
sure
exactly
when
the
last
meeting
was.
I
have
to
tell
you,
mr
council,
rivera
that
in
my
experience,
these
meetings
unfortunately
have
not
been
very
productive.
The
neighbors
come
and
they
yell
at
us,
and
we
don't
work
on
common
solutions,
but
we
I
have
been
at
every
single
meeting.
The
city
has
called
with
the
neighborhood.
K
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
can
can
make
a
difference,
and
we
we've
heard
about
problems
even
across
rios
and
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
but
council
kelsey
rivera.
I
want
to
be
clear:
those
are
not
shelter,
people
and
those
problems.
The
the
park
on
you
know
carlos
ray
that
counselor
cassette
sanchez
talked
about
the
other
night.
There
have
been
shootings
in
that
apartment
house
right
across
the
road
from
that
for
many
years
before
there
was
ever
a
shelter.
K
There
have
been
problems
in
that
neighborhood
in
that
park
and
wherever
councilor
garcia
is
talking
about.
I
mean
all
the
homeless.
Problems
in
the
city
are
problems
absolutely,
and
I
want
to
encourage
the
city
to
work
on
those
problems
and
people,
but
the
shelters
cannot
be
responsible
for
them
all
right
before.
I
K
Well,
in
what
what
we
heard
from
the
chief
at
finance
was
that
the
chief
is
going
to
put
policemen
on
bicycles,
and
I
think
counselor
lindell
asked
whether
they
could
ride
individually
and
not
in
a
peloton
that
was
her.
That
was
her
words
and
he
assured
her
that
that's
how
that
would
happen
and
policemen
who
are
getting
off
their
bikes
and
blocking
the
neighbors
being
present
on
the
street,
getting
to
know
the
homeless
people
who
are
causing
the
problems
figuring
out,
who
they
need
to
connect
those
people
to
in
community
services
or
arresting
them.
K
K
I
So
I
did
want
to
bring
up
a
neighborhood
watch.
We
have
one
here
in
our
neighborhood
and
we
watch
out
for
people
around
us
several
blocks
and
even
though
I
don't
have
authority
over
other
people's
yards
the
street,
if
someone
calls
and
notices
something,
I
will
go
outside
and
look
around
and
see.
What's
going
on,
that's
what
that's
what
I
think
of
community
policing,
it's
the
community,
helping
out
the
police
department
in
ways
that
we
can
to
to
make
sure
that
things
are
taken
care
of.
I
Do
you
know
how
many
people
are
not
allowed
in
the
shelter
you
said
there
were
several.
There
are
many
joe.
Can
you
answer
that.
L
Right
now,
I
think
the
list
I
gave
the
chief
was
about
18
people
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood,
but
some
of
those
people
were
already
working
with
the
bl
team.
A
few
of
those
people
are
also
working
with
a
street.
A
life
link
street
outreach
program.
B
I
L
Just
so
you
know
the
people,
people
on
the
street
actually
have
greater
needs
than
the
people
in
the
shelter.
So-
and
you
know
chief
media
has
said
in
the
past
and
andrew.
You
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
you
know
we
can't
arrest
our
way
out
of
this
particular
problem,
and
so
I
think
the
people
you
know
it's
a
coordination
effort
between
the
police
department,
outreach
workers,
the
shelter
itself.
L
We,
the
problem,
has
been
more
difficult
this
past
summer
and
I
think
primarily
because
people
have
no
place
to
go
and
that
and
that's
been
problematic
for
us
obviously
and
for
the
neighbors
and
you
know
which
we're
sympathetic
to
a
hundred
percent,
but
it
has
been.
I
mean
we
had
a
young
couple
who
went
over
to
the
park
on
commando
call.
This
ray
and
probably
promptly
got
themselves
arrested
for
no
trespassing
and
spent.
He
spent
the
night
in
jail.
L
She
spent
a
week
in
jail
and
because
there's
no
so
they
can't
they
were
camping
out
on
harrison
street,
because
there's
literally
no
place
for.
I
People
to
go
at
this
particular
yeah,
so
you
said
one
of
the
main
missions
that
really
created
you
was
to
prevent
hypothermia
death.
So
of
those
people
not
allowed
the
18.
19
people
not
allowed
in
the
shelter.
Where
did
they
go.
L
I
K
I
think
joe's,
probably
the
better
person
to
answer
that,
but
the
short
answer
for
you,
council
rivera,
is
that
they
are
people
who
have
severe
men,
mental
issues
or
substance
abuse
issues
who
can't
even
qualify
for
the
bottom
level
of
our
shelter
because
they
misbehave
when
they're
in
it.
And
that's
it.
That's
that's
largely
who
they
are
joe,
who
else.
L
Some
of
them,
you
know,
have
not
spent
a
night
at
the
shelter
the
the
person
who
threatened
the
neighbor
down
the
block
that
we
all
received
the
email
from
has
never
spent
one
night
at
the
shelter.
So
so
you
know
I'm
not
particularly
sure
where,
where
and
why
some
of
the
people
who
gravitate
toward
harrison
street
in
particular
as
opposed
to
jorgensen,
do
that
not
you
know
some
of
them.
Yes,
we've
put
out,
but
we
what
I
said
at
a
finance
committee
meeting.
L
L
I
You
know,
and
where
is
detox
when
you
send
them
there?
Where
is
that?
Well,
we
would
send
them
santa
fe
recovery.
Okay,
all
right
all
right!
Thank
you
for
that.
I
believe
the
fire
chief
is
on.
I
wanted
to
ask
him
about
the
inspections
that
were
done
there,
I'm
here
chief.
When
was
the
last
inspection
that
was
done
at
the
at
the
shelter.
N
The
shelter's
less
inspection
was
completed
on
october,
1st
2020,
with
minor
violations.
I
shouldn't
call
them
a
violation:
they
have
to
provide
a
documentation
that
their
alarm
system
has
been
maintained
and
they
have
to
replace
a
exit
sign.
Okay
and
then,
when
was
the
inspection
prior
to
that
that
one
was
completed
on
november
30th
2019.
I
Was
that
close
to
the
time
that
the
remodel
was
done
at
the
shelter.
N
K
B
Mr,
if
you
could
please
direct
your
response
through
the
chair
and
if,
if,
if
we
could
just
respect
the
counselor
asking
who
he'd
like
to
hear
from
that'd,
be
great,
thank
you.
I.
I
Apologize.
Thank
you.
That's
okay,
so,
chief,
you
said
this
is
classified
as
an
assembly.
Even
though
people
spend
the
night
is
it
are
we
looking
at
it
in
the
right
manner.
N
Manager,
council
rivera
the
information
I
received,
where
I
just
shared
with
you
about
it
being
considered
an
assembly
that
is
the
the
classification
as
our
fire
prevention
unit
has
classified
it.
So
I
could
follow
up
to
make
sure
that
it
is
classified
in
the
right
category,
but
as
a
right
now
it
is
considered
an
assembly.
I
N
I
All
right
and
then,
if
you
can
check
with
cid
or
the
county,
to
see
who
did
any
other
inspections
after
the
after
the
remodel.
That
would
be
great
as
well
I'll
also
follow
up
with
an
account
server,
all
right,
chief
joy.
Does
your
department
have
the
resources
to
continue
bikes
on
patrol
for
a
sustained
period
of
time.
O
O
It's
something
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
now
to
give
that
business,
district
and
neighborhood
some
reprieve
from
the
problems
and
concerns
that
are
occurring
there,
but
we
can't
sustain
it
24
7
nor
year
long,
but
we
understand
everyone's
concerns
and
we're
going
to
step
up
and
help
out.
One
concern
that
I
brought
up
a
meeting
that
we
had
about
about
over
a
month
ago
was
private
security.
O
I
think,
like
you
said,
the
city
should
definitely
step
up
with
private
security
and
help
out.
We
thought
hey.
Look
people
understood
me.
Some
others
had
some
concerns
about
my
thoughts
on
private
security.
If
the
city
has
the
funding
now
through
cares,
act,
funding
or
through
cara's
funding.
I
think
we
need
to
act
on
it
now.
We
can't
wait
for
this
task
force
to
stand
up
that
you'll
be
cheering
along
with
councilwoman
via
royale.
O
We'll
still
be
talking
about
this
same
concern,
60
90
days
from
now.
If
we
try
to
bring
up
the
concerns
on
how
to
spend
that
750
000
for
this
security
company,
but
we
will
definitely
be
there
in
the
early
mornings
through
the
evening,
but
I
think
having
this
private
security
company
to
patrol
that
neighborhood
and
business
district
to
deter
and
curb
some
of
this
behavior,
I
think
we
could
jump
on
that
as
soon
as
possible.
So
we
can
give
that
neighborhood
and
business
district
a
break
from
all
of
these
concerns.
O
O
But,
as
we
mentioned
outreach
outreach
outreach
to
these
individuals
is
very
important,
but
a
security
company
will
definitely
help
us
in
the
evening
hours,
starting,
like
I
said,
from
9
p.m.
To
about
8
o'clock
would
be
great
and
then
once
we
do
pull
out
of
the
area
in
january,
I
think
I
said
we'll
have
to
evaluate
the
whole
area
and
concerns,
but
I
think
we're
having
the
security
patrol
on
a
regular
basis.
Seven
days
a
week,
almost
24
hour
coverage
during
that
time
frame
when
we
do
lift,
would
go
a
long
way.
I
Do
we
know
what
the
cost
is
per
call.
O
O
We'd
have
to
break
it
down
per
call
depends
if
obviously,
someone
armed
with
a
knife
or
a
firearm,
a
major
crime
in
progress.
Obviously,
that
would
take
priority
and
we'd
respond
within
minutes.
If
it's
someone
that
was
urinating
on
the
sidewalk,
that
type
of
situation
may
pen
for
30
minutes
or
three
hours
just
depending
on
the
call
or
excuse
me
the
time
of
day
or
how
many
calls
or
service
are
pen.
I
And
that's
where
security
could
help
out,
because
they
could
respond
in
a
more
rapid
fashion
and
get
to
the
person
before
they're.
O
Gone
that
is
correct
and
counsel.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
and
some
people
thought
that
my
thoughts
on
security
was
well
hey,
they're,
just
gonna,
do
the
same
thing
and
call
dispatch
and
we're
still
going
to
have
to
wait
for
police
to
respond,
30
minutes
or
three
hours
later.
But
what
we
want
to
do
is
with
those
regular
patrols.
O
O
I
And
I've,
driven
by
the
shelter
early
in
the
morning
when
they're
letting
people
out
and
people
have
been
crossing
multiple
lanes
of
suryosh
road
after
the
shelter
lets
them
out.
Do
we
have
we
responded
to
any
pedestrian
versus
motor
vehicle
incidents
around
the
shelter
around
the
time
they
let
people
out.
O
I
Good
all
right,
chief
babcock,
if
I
can
ask
you
a
couple
more
questions
about
calls,
but
how
many
I
think
I
heard
200
ems
calls
in
and
around
the
shelter
is
that
last
year
this
year.
N
Madam
chair
council,
rivera
and
in
2019
we
had
298
calls
for
2019
through
2020
at
the
same
time,
frame
january
to
current
month,
we're
down
to
166
calls
in
the
shelter
what
we
also
have
at
the
shelter
we
have.
It's
called
as
public
assist
is
our
motor
and
gated
health
opiate
outreach
or
thrive
program.
They
go
daily
to
the
shower.
Excuse
me
to
the
shelter
if
a
participant
is
in
the
shelter.
I
Okay,
and
are
you
aware
of
any
pedestrian
calls
that
we've
had
you
know
in
the
last
couple
years.
N
Manager
comes
rivera,
I
would
have
to
go
into
our
data
to
look
into
it,
so
I
didn't
just
throw
out
a
number
there.
We've
had
had
some
pedestrians
alongside,
but
not
necessarily
in
the
vicinity
of
the
shelter,
okay
and
then.
I
N
I'm
sure
council
rivera
right
now
we
have
draft
protocols
of
what
the
medical
personnel
will
be.
The
paramedic
would
have
to
deal
with
a
police
department
would
have
to
come
up
with
their
protocol
so
to
provide
scene
safety
for
either
the
crew.
That's
involved
in
that
type
of
response,
as
well
as
the
overall
overall
scene
safety.
So
I
don't
have
the
draft
for
police
response
or
their
protocol,
then
also
also
just
the
social
workers
capacity.
N
We
want
the
social
worker
and
that
type
of
response
to
kind
of
get
that
individual
to
the
right
services,
so
not
necessarily
not
necessarily
provide
case
management,
but
get
them
to
the
correct
case
management
style,
whether
it's
behavioral
health
or
addiction
or
mental
illness.
Whatever
the
case
may
be,
that's
what
we
want
that
social
worker
to
do
not
actually
provide
case
management.
I
N
Madam
chair
counselor
rivera
if
they
are
in
need
of
medical
services
and
they
are
unable
to
provide
to
sign
off
as
a
patient
refusal
just
because
of
capacity
of
being
intoxicated
or
not
being
of
some
mental
status,
then
we
would
transport
them
to
the
hospital
law.
Enforcement
would
have
to
answer
the
question
when
they're
taken
to
jail
again.
Madam
chair
and
council
rivera,
as
has
been
echoed
throughout
this
entire
conversations.
N
In
these
meetings,
we
could
have
hundreds
of
case
managers
out
there,
but
at
some
point
case,
management
needs
to
provide
them
into
services
and
that's
where
we're
lacking.
That's
a
big
missile
link,
we're
lacking
services.
So
I
could
have
every
fire
department,
member
be
a
case
manager
and
street
outreach,
but
we
just
don't
have
services
to
place
them
into
that
are
appropriate
for
their
needs.
N
Or
addiction
facilities
there's
so
many
things
that
we
have
services
that
we're
allowed
to.
Not
that
were
allowed
that
we
have
ability
to
take
into
right,
and
I.
I
Remember
when
this
first
started
so
a
lot
of
it
was
to
keep
patients
from
hypothermia
deaths,
but
the
other
was
to
really
minimize
the
amount
of
patients
that
were
going
to
the
hospital,
as
well
as
minimize
the
amount
of
patients
that
were
being
transported
so
has
that
has
the
shelter
helped
in
any
way
in
that
regard,
or
do
we
still
have
quite
a
bit
of
traffic
going
to
the
hospital.
N
I'm
sure
council
rivera
right
now,
our
mijo
program
due
to
staff
the
services
our
miho
providing
is
our
media
program
case
manager,
providing
opiate
outreach
and
thrive
program,
which
is
a
diversion
from
placing
people
in
jail
for
some
misdemeanor
type
crimes.
So
our
responses
to
the
shelter
itself
have
gone
down.
Our
opiate
outreach
team
has,
I
think,
made
a
big
difference.
N
Our
thrive
program
has
made
a
big
difference
that
revolving
door
at
the
hospital
is
still
taking
place
and
that's
a
little
bit
because
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
continue
to
follow
up
with
high
utilize
high
utilization
patients
that
you
that
have
used
9-1-1,
okay,.
B
Okay,
thank
you
counselor
via
real.
If
you
have
questions,
I
would
like
to
go
to
roseanne
hagerty.
If,
if
that
would
be
okay,
it
is.
She
is
coming
to
us
from
a
different
time
zone,
which
is
a
little
bit
later
than
where
we
are
tonight,
and
I
would
like
to
have
her
address
the
committee.
B
We
have
heard
tonight
that
you
know
that
this
is
a
larger
problem
than
the
shelter's
lease
and
the
the
the
folks
in
that
neighborhood
are
in
need
of
services
beyond
which
that
the
this
particular
shelter
can
provide-
and
I
think
roseanne
is
with
the
built
for
xero
program,
which
is
something
that
the
mayor
got
us
on
track
to
be
a
part
of
and
to
implement
here
in
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
to
address
the
this
very
kind
of
thing
and
and
if
she
could
maybe
give
us
a
little
background
on
what
built
for
zero
is,
and
you
know
the
the
work
that
the
success
of
this
work
may
be
in
other
parts
of
the
country
and
you
know
kind
of
where
we
are
in
santa
fe
in
implementing
this.
B
I
think
that
would
help
this
conversation
in
understanding
what
we
are
doing
and
will
continue
to
do
and
in
terms
of
focusing
efforts
on
on
helping
the
overall
issue,
which
would
help
the
neighborhood
and
roseanne.
If
you,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
giving
us
some
context,
I
think
that'd
be
great.
P
Of
course,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
so
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
join
you
and
really
appreciate
the
thoughtful
conversation
here
and,
as
you
just
pointed
out,
this
is
a
much
bigger
question
around
the
whole
way
that
cities
can
effectively
actually
work
toward
a
systemic
end
to
homelessness,
rather
than
be
in
a
constant
state
of
reaction
to
these
very
thorny
problems
built
for
zero.
P
That
santa
fe
is
a
part
of
now
is
a
national
effort
that
involves
now
81
cities
and
counties,
and
it's
aimed
at
really
getting
to
an
end
game
where
homelessness
itself
is
rare
overall
and
brief
when
it
occurs,
and
I'm
I'm
struck
even
listening
to
you
that
so
many
comments
have
really
appreciated
that
this
is
very
much
an
individual
phenomenon
that,
in
a
city
of
80
000
they're
about
120
people
that
are
yeah,
that
there
isn't
an
easy
solution
for
and
so
part
of
what
has
emerged
and
this.
P
We
now
have
49
that
are
steadily
reducing
homelessness.
13
have
ended,
chronic
or
veteran
homelessness.
Another
four
have
have
ended
it,
but
within
the
last
three
months,
and
so
we
don't
actually
count
it
as
having
been
done
until
you've
held
that
and
really
have
the
the
tested
systems
in
place
for
at
least
six
months.
But
the
trajectory
is
very
clear
and
what
these
communities
are
doing
that
are
succeeding
and
what
santa
fe
is
putting
in
place.
Step
by
step
are
five
things
one.
P
Third-
and
this
turns
out
to
be
sort
of
the
essential
glue
to
it
all-
they
have
created
an
ability
to
know,
by
name
and
in
real
time,
everyone
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
you
don't
have
people
falling
through
the
cracks.
You
know
precisely.
What's
going
on
and
a
lot
of
the
a
lot
of
the
information
here
goes
to
specific
individuals
and
their
behaviors.
Well,
that's
sort
of
at
the
heart
of
like
demystifying.
P
What's
going
on,
taking
the
anonymity
out
of
this
situation
and
then,
lastly,
and
two
things
that
that
again,
you're
working
on
and-
and
I
just
you
know-
kind
of
commend
you
in
the
midst
of
pandemic
and
all
these
other
pressures,
one
is
having
a
flexible
arsenal
of
resources
looking
at
at
freeing
up
resources
in
one
place
or
another,
finding
assets
like
the
work
of
the
police
and
the
fire
department
emts
to
participate
here,
putting
money
into
housing
that
can
be
used
more
flexibly
more
flexibly.
P
Even
I
would
say,
we've
mentioned
people
across
the
country
how
just
savvy
and
resourceful
the
city
was
and
using
the
midtown
campus,
just
really
finding
ways
to
be
flexible
and
and
going
out
the
problem
really
with
that
kind
of
intensity
and
and
flexibility,
and
then,
lastly,
drawing
on
a
testable
menu
of
strategies
that
have
worked
in
other
cities,
and
I
know
that
kiera,
for
instance,
has
been
working
on
on
an
outreach
program
that
has
been
informed
by
what
other
cities
have
done,
who
don't
have
adequate
funding
for
their
res
their
outreach
program,
but
can
can
pull
together
a
team
from
across
agencies.
P
So
I
I
I
think
that
you're
you're
heading
in
the
right
direction
and
it
changing
the
changing
the
paradigm
from
just
endlessly
reacting
to
really
getting
organized
to
solve
the
problem.
You're
in
the
midst
of
that-
and
you
know
this
is
this-
is
not
a
city
without
a
plan
that's
tested
and
working
elsewhere.
P
I'd
say
these:
these
cities
that
have
ended
chronic
or
veteran
homelessness,
they're
all
larger
than
santa
fe,
not
which
is
not
to
say
that
you
know
like
they
don't
they
have
abundant
resources
or
their
challenges
are
are
are
easier.
But
if
you
stay
with
that
vision
of
we're
solving
the
problem,
we're
not
going
to
get
thrown
off
course
by
the
day's
crisis.
P
There
is
a
path
now
and
santa
fe
is
certainly
helping
other
communities
to
learn
as
you
pull
resources
together
and
and
and
your
unique
context
so
happy
to
fill
you
in
on
any
particular
part
of
this.
But
I
I
do
want
to
appreciate
the
the
fact
that
the
city
is
on
this
course
to
really
yeah
solve
the
problem
for
good
and
and
not
to
have
month
after
month,
year
after
year,
these
painful
conversations
about
what
to
do
with
people,
who
are
you,
know,
suffering
and
suffering
and
causing
others
to
suffer.
B
Sorry,
thank
you
for
that
background
and
I
really
appreciate
you
joining
us
this
evening
and
I
know
it
is
later
where
you
are.
I
I
think
it's
helpful
to
understand
a
little
bit
about.
What's
what
your
program
is
and
the
fact
that
we
are
a
part
of
it
and
we
are
working
to
solve
some
of
these
bigger
problems,
and
you
know
I
just
think
that's
important
context.
B
I
don't
know
if
there
are
quick
questions
for
ms
haggerty
while
she's
here
I
I
don't
want
her
to
have
to
hang
with
us
through
the
entire
meeting,
if,
if
she's
not
able
to,
but
if
there
are.
P
You
know
I've
seen
so
many
variations
counselor
of
how
communities
organize
and
even
spatially
their
resources.
I
think
the
thing
that
matters
the
most
is
the
tight
communication
actually
having
a
very
comprehensive,
accurate
picture
of
the
problem,
and
that
is
is
the
thing
that
is
causing
communities
to
make
progress
or
not,
and
so
the
the
location
I've
seen
yeah.
So
many
variations
of
this.
P
It's
really
hard
for
me
to
be
definitive
because
you
know
sometimes
it
depends
like
what
types
of
services
are
clustered
there
so
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
kyra
to
suggest
maybe
some
different
city
models
that
that
could
be
relevant,
but
there
isn't
a
one-size-fits-all
answer
to
that.
J
Thank
you.
I
don't
really
have
direct
questions
anymore
for.
B
I
Thank
you,
miss
hagarty,
have
you
worked
with
any
communities
that
have
a
cost
of
living
similar
to
the
city
of
santa
fe,
where
they've
been
able
to
end
homelessness?
Because
when
you
talk
about
affordable
housing,
the
idea
of
affordable
housing
in
santa
fe
is
quite
different
than
anywhere
else,
and
even
affordable
housing
here
in
santa
fe
is
quite
expensive.
So
have
you
dealt
with
any
communities
that
have
worked
on
that.
P
So
you
know
crazy,
high
housing
costs
and
then
two
suburban
counties
just
outside
washington
dc
also
a
very
costly
area,
so
that's
well
montgomery
county
and
then
arlington,
fairfax,
virginia
montgomery,
county
maryland
and
arlington
fairfax
county
virginia
and
again
it's
you
know
the
collaboration
and
actually
understanding
the
problem
in
its
particularity
every
person,
but
making
steady
improvements
to
a
system
following
the
data
like
what
do
we
have
to
do
this
week?
B
Other
questions
for
ms
haggerty,
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
tonight
and
and
talking
a
little
bit
about
built
for
xero.
I
know
we've
had
some
meetings
early
in
the
mayor's
administration
to
to
to
learn
more,
and
I
know
that
we
are
now
part
of
your
strategy
and
you
know
hopeful
that
that
will
be
successful
like
some
of
those
other
communities
you
speak
of.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us,
really
appreciate
it.
It's.
P
My
pleasure
and
we're
just
very
committed
to
your
success
as
well
and
and
my
team,
and
I
just
really
are
at
your
disposal
to
help
with
these
these
challenges
along
the
way.
B
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This.
I
have
a
question
for
kira
related
to
the
built
for
xero
program
and
when,
while
you're,
formulating
it
and
and
and
trying
to
create
the
infrastructure
for
it,
do
you
have
regular
meetings
with
social
services
that
are
providing
support
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
even
chronically
homeless?
Folks,
are
they
already
like
in
our
network?
Do
you
have
regular
meetings?
What
does
that
look
like.
M
Madam
chair
councilwoman
viral
yes,
we
do
have
a
core
team.
We
formed
the
core
team
when
we
first
joined
with
our
partners
at
interfaith
saint
elizabeth
lifelink,
and
we
also
of
course
partner
with
the
new
mexico
coalition
to
end
homelessness
and
we're
considered
the
community
lead
in
the
bill
for
zero
model
and
the
coalition's
the
data
lead.
The
first
thing
we
did
was
go
to
the
conference
together
in
atlanta
and
really
understand
the
model.
M
That
was
now
a
couple
almost
two
years
back,
not
quite
two
years
back
and
we
again
went
to
a
conference
in
denver
with
our
partners,
and
then
I
also
was
able
to
hire
a
staff
person
who
had
extensive
experience
working
in
homelessness,
anna
kale.
She
actually
worked
at
the
coalition
and
she's
really
taken
a
role
in
as
a
project
specialist
and
coordinating
the
efforts.
Although
that's
she,
that's
not
her
only
job.
M
So
that's
you
know
something
that's
challenging,
but
she
has
set
up
regular
meetings
with
the
people
that
sort
of
were
on
the
ground.
Folks
case
managers,
people
doing
street
outreach
and
those
meetings
have
had
become
a
little
less
regular
during
the
pandemic
and
while
she
was
on
maternity
leave,
but
yes,
we've
set
up
a
regular
s
series
of
meetings
and
we
weekly
with
our
data,
lead
on
the
built
for
zero
work.
J
And
I
ask
that
because
it's
important,
since
they
are
one
of
the
largest
shelters
and
serve
a
great
number
of
people-
and
they
also,
I
think,
have
the
experience
and
expertise
to
know
what
will
make
this
successful.
And
I
guess
what
I
was
having
a
hard
time
with
before
this
particular
model
came
about.
In
the
previous
administration.
J
We
had
the
one
door
concept,
and
that
was
an
idea
that
we're
considering
and
all
the
service
providers
would
come
together
and
have
meetings
and
talk
about
this
potential,
and
there
was
a
group
a
model
from
san
antonio
that
came
just
to
describe
that,
and
I
went
to
almost
all
those
meetings
and
interfaith
did
not
participate
in
that,
and
that
was
really
frustrating
because
they
had
a
big
role
in
that,
and
I
never
understood
why
that
wasn't
the
case.
J
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
move
into
yet
another
model
which
I'm
hoping
this
one
will
stick
and
it
does
really
kind
of
track
individuals
and
and
see
them
as
human,
but
also
follow
them
along
and
make
sure
that
we're
they're
progressing
or
that
they're
getting
the
services
they
need.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
and
I
guess
I'm
curious
if
the
shelter
since
you've
been
open,
are
you
able
to
quantify
in
some
way
with
the
individuals
that
you've
served,
how
many
people
have
found
stability.
L
Madam
chair
counselor
for
sure
so
last
year,
just
so
you
know,
by
the
way
an
answer
to
I
believe
it
was
councilman
rivera
of
the
clients
we
case
managed
52.
L
We
had
a
52
reduction
in
incarceration
and
a
30.5
reduction
in
er
visits,
but
last
year
we
housed
between
lifelink
the
va
people
returning
home
or
pueblo
127
people,
and
we
sent
76
people
out
of
the
detox
or
recovery.
J
So
I
guess,
when
I
think,
about
stability,
and
I
think
about
how
we
think
about
provision
of
services
and
being
able
to
track
individuals
and
find
out
if
they're
progressing
and
getting
what
they
need.
Kira.
Is
that
the
goal
then
for
built
for
xero
and
also
the
goal
of
the?
What
are
we
calling
it,
the
requiring
our
partners
to
be
part
of
the
part
of
the
contract,
I'm
forgetting
the
name
coordinated
system?
Thank
you,
coordinated
entry
system
is
that
actually
part
of
the
built
for
xero
model.
M
Madam
chair
councilwoman
villarreal,
yes,
the
the
what's
called
the
by
name
list
of
the
which
is
the
at
the
heart
of
the
by
of
the
bill
for
zero
model,
is
the
coordinated
entry
system
working
really
well,
and
so
what
that
means
is
that
we,
the
reason
that
homelessness
is
then
brief
and
rare
is
because
we're
able
to
see
when
people
become
homeless,
we
can
even
prevent
people
from
becoming
homeless.
M
We're
able
to
get
them
housed
quickly
because
we
know
their
what
their
needs
are,
because
we
know
who
they
are
by
name
and
then,
if
they
have
trouble,
staying
housed
we
or
are
having
trouble.
We
know
that
and
we
know
how
they're
leaving
homelessness.
Are
they
going
out
of
the
community?
Are
they
going
into
housing?
You
know,
are
they
going
to
a
family
member
and
what
kind
of
you
know
help
do
they
need
moving
forward
to
stay
stabilized,
so
we're
not
there
yet,
but
that
is
the
hot.
M
That
is
the
goal
of
this
highly
functioning
system
and
joe
looks
like
wanted
to
add
something.
L
No,
I
just
want
to
as
an
illustration
today
you
know
we're
getting
cares
money
from
the
county,
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
so
our
case
manager
clinton
called
over
to
the
country
club
apartments,
which
are
low-income
apartments
of
the
60
people
there
30
are
behind
in
rent
and
maybe
be
evicted,
so
we're
going
to
help
those
people
prevent
becoming
homeless
before
it
even
occurs.
L
M
It
even
happens
so
that
is
thank
you
joe,
and
that's
also
the
goal
of
connect
right
that
and
we
are
also
giving
karezak
money
to
the
shelters
through
the
city,
and
that
is
a
way
to
to
ensure
that
case
management
is
happening.
Navigation
is
happening.
It's
just
a
place
to
stay,
that's
really
important.
It's
a
place
to
stay
out
of
the
cold,
that's
for
the
majority
of
people
for
those
poor
people
that
are
really
having
a
hard
time
getting
out
of
that
situation.
M
Those
navigators
are
really
sinking
in
and
saying
like.
What
did
these
folks
need
to
get
housed
and
it
is
very
encouraging
to
see
what
they're
able
to
do
and
now
with
cares.
I
think
we're
able
to
do
more,
and
I
think
that
is
the
ultimate
goal
of
both
the
connect
program,
which
is
kind
of
a
wider
feeder
into
coordinated
entry
for
those
who
are
homeless,
as
well
as
just
all
of
us
just
getting
it
around
the
same
table
which
we
have
been
doing
and
we've
had
to
some
degree
having
those
hard
conversations
about
well.
M
Why
can't
your
agency
step
it
up
and
do
this?
Well,
I
can't
do
it
because
why
can't
you
do
it
and
why
where's
the
city
and
where's
the
county,
and
by
the
way
I
just
want
to
mention
that
you
know
the
crisis
center,
that
the
county
is
bringing
on
board.
I
think,
will
go
a
long
way
to
helping
solve
the
problems
that
we
see
in
the
streets.
Where
do
you
put
these
people
even
if
they
do
get
booked
and
into
jail?
M
We
know
they're
back
on
the
street
the
next
day,
sometimes
well
with
the
crisis
center,
which
will
have
the
santa
fe
recovery
center
sobering
center
on
site
and
with
a
project.
We're
really
excited
about
that
we're
working
on
with
ancorum
foundation,
who
has
really
stepped
into
this
field.
To
say
we
care
about
homelessness.
We
want
to
prevent
that.
M
We
know
it's
an
impact
on
our
hospital
system
on
our
community
at
large
and
they've
recently
really
stepped
to
the
fore
and
become
a
real
partner,
offering
a
250
000
bridge
funding
for
this
effort,
where
we're
going
to
get
more
help
from
my
coordinator,
anna
kell,
to
coordinate
out
of
the
coalition,
as
well
as
some
support
for
case
management
and
then
some
funds
that
are
to
be
determined
and
what
they
need
to
be
used
for.
Maybe
they
can
be
used
for
street
outreach.
M
You
know,
maybe
they
can
be
used
for
some
of
these
immediate
needs,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
taking
time,
but
I
think
you
know
saint
elizabeth,
an
interfaith
incredible
partnership
now
that
we
didn't
see,
maybe
a
couple
of
years
ago,
where
right
now
today,
I
know
that
joe
and
edward
are
trying
are
case,
managing
individual
clients
and
seeing
who
could
go
from
interfaith,
perhaps
to
saint
ease,
will
st
be
able
to
open
up
a
little
more
on
their
restrictions
to
let
more
people
in
in
the
cold
weather
that
kind
of
collaboration.
M
I
did
not
see
happening.
You
know
I
won't
attribute
at
all
to
built
for
xero,
certainly,
but
it's
happening
now,
there's
sort
of
a
synchronicity
to
it.
That's
very
encouraging
and
I'll
stop
well.
J
I
partly
actually,
I
think,
you're
part
of
the
that
that
success
and
the
increased
communication
between
different
partners
that
we
didn't
have
before.
So
I
do
attribute
that
to
your
leadership
kira
as
well,
and
I
do
think
that
center
will
be
helpful
as
we
look
at
behavioral
health
support.
I
guess
when
I
look
at
this
coordinated
entry
system
requirement
through
the
contract
and
it's
still
the
minimum,
is
25
percent
of
clients,
and
you
said
that
that
sounds
about
reasonable.
J
But
I
I
guess
I
still
would
like
us
to
consider
increasing
that
each
year,
so
that
there's
a
goal
to
keep,
not
that
we
want
more
people
and
clients
to
be
in
that
pool
because
it
keeps
growing,
but
that
they
as
a
shelter,
will
continue
looking
at
increasing
that
assessment
tool
as
a
goal
for
each
year
to
be
acquiring
or
having
more
clients
into
the
system.
J
So
would
that
be
something
that
we
can
add
to
that
that
there
would
be
a
tiered
system
for
the
the
next
year,
so
the
first
year
is
25
of
the
clients,
but
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
increase
so
that
there's
a
goal
that
we
need
to
reach
for
the
next
year.
M
It's
it's
a
very
there's,
a
com.
The
coordinated
entry
in
hmis
is
really
complicated
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
real
wonky
discussion
of
that,
but
there
is
a
need
to
capture
who's
experiencing
homelessness
even
for
a
night
at
pete's,
and
that
is
not
the
same
as
coordinated
entry.
That's
that's
like
a
one
touch
point
and
you
know
that,
but
that
takes
a
lot
to
use
the
hud
database
system
hmis
that
takes
a
lot
of
capacity
that
the
shelter
doesn't
currently
have.
M
M
That's
a
whole
staff
person
honestly
for
what
it
would
take,
given
the
volume
of
a
thousand
people
to
get
everybody
in
that
hmis
system,
and
it's
something
the
shelter
has
tried
before
and
been
willing
to
try
with
some
funding,
but
it
wasn't
enough
to
cover
what
actually
it
actually
took
to
do
it
so
very
much.
We
want
the
everyone
who's
experiencing.
M
Any
form
of
homelessness
to
be
sort
of
captured
early
on,
so
they
don't
become
a
12-month
chronic
case
right,
and
that
is
something
that
we're
in
a
lot
of
communication
with
joe
and
his
team
about.
But
I
I
would
just
argue
that
the
lease
itself
is
not
is
is
not
the
best
mechanism
to
get
that
kind
of
a
deliverable.
That's.
J
Fine,
as
long
as
through
our
grants
and
the
matrix
that
the
the
metrics
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
the
grants
we
give
out
and
the
evaluation
aspect,
I
do
think
that
that's
something
we
need
to
strive
for
that
not
just
interfaith
but
all
of
our
partners
in
that
system,
so
that
we
really
do
have
a
clear
understanding
of
who
is
chronically
homeless
in
our
community
and
and
keeping
track
of
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
information.
J
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
the
aspect
of
like
responsibilities
of
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
the
shelter
and
what
that
looks
like
even
outside
of
their
premises,
and
you
know,
I
think
we
all
have
a
role
in
responsibility.
As
I
said
in
finance
in
this
finance
meeting,
and
I
think
it
would
be
extremely
helpful
to
be
able
to
have
neighbors
and
neighborhoods
be
in
this
effort
together,
because
when
you
have
better
communication
with
people
that
are
experiencing
what
you're
experiencing
or
they
have
different
they,
they
are
basically
another
resource.
J
Then
we
would
probably
do
better
about
understanding
what's
happening
out
there
outside
of
the
fence.
So
I
do
think
it's
actually
the
responsibility.
The
shelter
should
have
a
responsibility
to
communicate
with
neighbors
and
businesses,
and
the
last
official
community
meeting
was
not
last
year.
It
was
2017
and
that's
a
long
time
to
be
having
a
meeting.
J
I
know
I
had
been
pushing
to
at
least
have
a
meeting
last
year
when
we
were,
we
actually
got
funding
for
lighting
and
sidewalks,
and
I
wanted
to
understand
from
the
neighbors
what
they
would
like
to
see.
First,
since
we
had
limited
money
and
we're
we're
finally
getting
some
more
money
to
support
that,
but
again
that's
a
short-term
effort
to
a
larger
problem.
J
So
I
do
think
the
neighborhood
actually
can
be
the
eyes
and
ears
of
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood
to
the
police
and
the
shelter
and
that
there
should
be
a
concerted
effort
to
talk
to
each
other
regularly.
And
I
think
in
the
past,
we'd
relied
on
interfaith
to
get
to
help
organize
those,
and
I
think
it's
actually
our
responsibility
too,
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
do
a
better
job
at
communicating
with
their
neighbors,
because
the
neighbors
shouldn't
find
out
about
things
through
the
paper.
J
That's
just
not
the
right
way
to
communicate
with
any
neighborhood.
We've
already
learned
that
we
see
that
on
the
council
and
we've
seen
it
in
the
past,
and
I
think
in
this
case
the
neighbors
have
not
forgotten
that
when
the
shelter
was
being
considered
in
its
current
location,
they
were
not
informed
that
this
was
happening
and
they
had
to
find
out
through
the
paper,
and
there
was
actually
one
counselor
that
voted
against
this.
J
And
what
are
some
of
the
some
of
the
you
know,
nefarious
activities
happening
and
who
are
those
people
that
are
actually
causing
them
because
they
may
or
may
not
be
connected
to
the
shelter
but
they're
they're,
regular
people?
I
mean
they're
people
that
actually
are.
Are
they
don't
change
every
week?
J
Is
what
I'm
saying
they're
the
usual
suspects
that
are
out
there
doing
similar
things,
creating
problems
for
people
that
are
trying
to
get
services
in
the
shelter
and
also
people
that
you
know
they
don't
they're
emboldened,
I
would
say,
and
part
of
it's
also
the
the
role
of
our
pd
to
continuously
be
there
to
be
able
to
support.
So
I'm
happy
to
hear
about
the
bike
team
and
I
think
that
that
again
is
a
short-term
fix
and
we
have
to
think
about
this
long
term.
J
So
I'm
back
to
the
security
question
like
and
kira.
I
don't
know
if
you've
even
people
have
posed
this
question
to
you
about
private
security
and
I'm
kind
of
conflicted
about
that,
like
we
put
it
on
private
security
to
decide
and
we
have
that
responsibility
and
we
pay
for
that
as
a
city.
Or
is
that
something
that
that's
a
combined
effort
for
the
city
and
shelter
to
be
responsible?
For
what
are
your
thoughts
on
that.
M
Madam
chair
council,
woman,
via
all
I'll
just
say
that
it's
a
complex
issue.
I
think
when
we
have
capacity
issues
with
our
police
force,
I
mean
in
an
ideal
world.
I
I
don't
think
it
would
be
private
security,
but
that's
my
opinion.
But
if
we
really
have
capacities
with
our
police
force
and
we're
not
able
to
say
mobilize
more
a
larger
mijo
team,
then
I
think
we
need
to
look
at.
M
You
know
private
security,
certainly
in
the
short
term,
and
I
will
say
that
we
are
in
conversation
right
now
about,
since
we
have
this
new
salvation
army
site
coming
on
and
we
are
having.
M
This
cares
money
we're
looking
at
also
having
kind
of
a
roving
security
that
would
also
serve
the
area
around
pete's
as
well,
and
so
I
think
that
is
a
possibility
on
the
near
horizon
and
I
think
we'll
learn
if
that's
really
the
way
to
go
or
not
and
somewhat
in
by
doing
and
trying
it
we
have.
This
cares
resource
that
we
can
use
and
I
think
we're
certainly
looking
into
that
possibility.
J
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
how
I
feel
about
having
private
security
take
care
of
a
problem
that
we
also
have
a
responsibility
for
and
so
yeah.
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
sure
how
you
feel
about
that.
J
I
also
think
that,
like
the
communication
aspect
and
what
miss
hagerty
was
talking
about
the
way
things
work
well
is
when
there's
a
comprehensive
picture
of
the
pr
of
the
problem
and
that
there's
communication
between
service
providers-
and
so
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
communication
happens
between
and
coordination
with,
the
police,
lifelink
mijo
fire
and
the
shelter
do
we
have
an
idea
of
the
how
that
works,
because
that's
always
that
just
I
don't
get
that.
J
I
feel
like
we're
at
the
point
where
we
should
be
beyond
that
and
that
we
should
have
a
coordinated
effort
and
understand,
what's
happening
and
sharing
information,
and
so
I
don't
know
who
could
answer
that
someone
have
can
give
me
a
better
picture
of
that.
That's
actually
happening
or
we're
still
trying
to
figure
that
out.
B
M
Madam
chair
councilman
bureau-
I
mean
definitely
you
know
joe-
is
in
constant
communication
with
lifelink
lifelink
is
present
at
the
shelter
you
know
joe
and
and
chief
padilla
talk
about,
and
you
know
joe
calls
the
police
when
there
are
police
issues.
The
thrive
and
mijo
teams
are
very
present
in
the
area
miho
from
from
and
from
the
fire
department.
M
M
You
know,
I
think,
what's
kind
of
needed
is
also
to
involve
rec
9-1-1
in
the
sense
that
you
know.
If
we
have
a
new
way
of
responding
to
these
needs,
then,
and
that's
hardwired,
into
how
rec
deploys
a
unit
an
appropriate
kind
of
unit,
then
we
start
to
see
a
different
kind
of
what
flow
for
an
individual.
You
know.
Ideally
an
individual
is
having
a
behavioral
health
episode
in
the
streets.
Whatever
that
looks
like
the
team,
the
somebody
calls
911.
M
M
The
county
has
a
large
revenue
source,
as
you
know,
for
behavioral
health
in
the
community
in
santa
fe
is
its
primary
source
for
its
spending,
and
then
you
know
the
person's
assessed
if
it's,
if
it's
not
an
urgent
medical
condition,
they're
brought
to
the
crisis
center
they're
stabilized
at
the
crisis
center
and
if
they
don't
have
a
home
to
go
to
they
go
to
this
other
facility,
which
is
this
I'm
calling
it
a
transitional
living
supportive
housing
place
and
it
could
be
a
it
is
a
different
place
and,
in
fact,
and
quorum,
is
in
the
process
of
identifying
actual
properties
that
would
serve
for
this
purpose.
M
So
we're
really
kind
of
close
on
this.
We
would
then
have
that
person
stabilized,
and
hopefully
you
know
housing
does
wonders
for
people.
Often
that's
the
housing
first
model
you'd
be
amazed
that
are
taking
care
of
taking
place
on
harrison
spirit
street
are
taking
place
in
people's
homes
right
now
tonight,
as
we
speak,.
B
If
I
can,
if
I
can
interject,
we
have
been
at
this
almost
two
hours
now,
I
have
not
asked
any
questions
and
I
we
do
have
another
presentation
tonight.
I
just
would
ask
that
we
think
about
where
we
are
in
the
evening.
B
Yes,
you
should
have
told
that
when
the
other
counselors
were
talking
too
anyway,
I
have
one
more
to
me
all
the
time,
but
you
know
I
we
all
know
what
what
the
agenda
looks
like.
So
I
I
it's
it's
a
blanket
reminder
for
us
all
that
these
are.
These
are
really
hard
issues.
There's
a
lot
of
information
to
convey.
You
know
we're
trying
to
do
it
as
best
we
can,
and
you
know
we
we
could
talk
about
this
into
the
wee
hours
and
still
not
be
done
so
anyway.
J
So
I
guess
joe
I'm
just
curious.
What
your
take
is
about
the
space
adequacy,
the
adequacy
of
the
space
you
have,
and
obviously
we
hope
that
the
homelessness
will
increase
so
that
you
have
more
people
that
are
needing
the
space.
I'm
just
wondering
in
terms
of
your
space
now,
do
you
feel,
like
you,
have
the
capacity
to
support
what's
needed.
L
Right
now
we
have
plenty
of
states,
because
we
have
limit
first
of
all,
most
of
the
three
I'm
going
to
talk
about
pre-covet
pre-code,
okay,
but
I
still
think
we
we
have
ample
space.
If
I
mean
we
are,
we
are
looking
at
the
spills
for
zero
participation
and
hoping
to
decrease
the
population
at
the
shelter,
no
two
ways
about
it,
and
so
you
know
I
have
30
people
at
the
motel
right
now
and
and
they're
all
doing.
L
Well,
I
have
to
say
not
just
fine
they're
all
doing
well
and
they
most
of
those
people
have
been
homeless
two
to
eight
years.
So
when
kira
refers
to
the
housing
first
model
and
the
city
buying
a
motel,
I
mean,
I
think
all
these
are
efforts
that
we
have
to
that.
We
want
to
support
and
then
and
that
I
think
we
will
be
able
to
make
an
inroad
in
decreasing
the
population
at
the
shelter
so
that
the
amount
of
space
we
currently
have
will
be
ample.
That's
how
I
feel
about
it
right
now.
L
You
know
if
things
change
and
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
a
large
influx
of
people.
We
never
anticipated.
Then
we
can
go
back
to
the
drawing
board,
but
right
about
now,
especially-
and
I
know
pre-code-
is
what
you're
referring
to,
but
right
now
we're
only
going
to
allow
36
people
in
the
building
at
night.
We
don't
know
we
don't
feed
people
in
the
building.
During
the
day
we
we
feed
them.
We
do
we
box,
lunches
and
distribute
at
the
door.
L
We
only
allow
10
people
in
the
building
at
any
one
particular
time
two
in
the
community
closet
four
in
the
showers,
because
we
have
four
showers
and
two
in
each
restroom
you,
you
cannot
get
in
the
building
without
wearing
a
mask
or
having
your
temperature
taken.
So
so
right
now,
and
the
only
providers
in
the
building
at
this
particular
point
are
a
clinician
from
pms
lifelink
and
healthcare
for
the
homeless.
L
So
we
so
we
have
ample
space
at
this
at
this
time,
and
you
know
at
this
particular
time,
but
but
I
I
am
hoping
that
all
these
efforts
I
mean
I've
always
said
that
you
know
I
really
want
to
put
us
out
of
business,
and
I
do
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know-
we've
learned
that
people-
you
can
house
somebody
who's
been
homeless
for
eight
years
and
they
can
do
just
fine
and
we're
talking
about
people
with
mental
health
issues.
L
I
might
add
primarily
so
so
I
think
at
this
particular
point
in
time
we're
okay.
J
Thank
you
for
that,
and
also
while
I
have
you
joe,
are
you
committed
to
actually
meeting
with
neighbors
and
businesses
regularly?
I
know
that
was
a
discussion
and
promise
in
the
past
that
has
not
been
met
and
the
city
also
has
that
responsibility,
but
it's
a
partnership.
So
what
are
your
thoughts
on
that.
L
Definitely
we're
open
to
meeting
with
the
neighbors,
but
I
want
to
say
that
those
meetings
were
organized
by
the
city.
We
didn't
organize
them.
We
attended
those
meetings.
So
just
so
you
know.
J
Well,
it
was
kind
of
this
weird
idea
of
let
joe
invite
all
the
neighbors
and
people
and
stakeholders.
Yes,
this
is
a
problem
with
our
current
director.
That's
why
I'm
glad
kira
is
with
us,
because
there
was
a
mis
connection
of
having
you
all
be
the
responsible
party
to
put
out
the
word
that
we
have
a
meeting
and
the
city
didn't
play
a
major
role,
and
that
was
problematic
because
then
some
a
lot
of
people
got
left
out.
J
So
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
with
those
meetings
and
they
need
to
happen
regularly
and
that
we
all
are
committed
to
that
along
with
pd,
so
that
people
understand
what's
happening
actually
pd.
L
B
That's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank
you.
I
would
just
offer
that
we
as
counselors
have
convening
power
and
can
certainly
call
all
these
parties
together,
as
as
we
see
fit
and
as
needed
to
help
address
the
issues
in
the
neighborhood.
I
am
not
going
to
ask
any
questions
because
of
the
late
hour
and
I
am
going
to
ask
that
we
move.
We
I'd,
entertain
a
motion
now
on
this
item
and
then
we're
going
to
move
to
our
last
presentation.
B
Second,
here
jennifer:
can
you
call
the
role.
D
B
And
chair
romeroworth:
yes,
okay,
thank
you,
everybody
for
being
here
tonight.
Thank
you
for
all
your
input,
questions
and
good
conversation.
We
will
now
move
to
the
presentation
item
on
our
agenda
and
I
apologize
to
our
staff
who've
been
waiting
and
thank
you
for
your
patience.
We
we
did
not
know.
B
We
have
this
item
on
the
agenda
when
we
first
scheduled
you
so
sorry
about
that,
and
let's
see
we
are
now
at
the
environmental
services
division
update
on
sustainability,
initiatives
related
to
social
equity
and
I
don't
know
who's
who's
who's
going
to
start,
but
take
it
away.
E
Madam
chair
that'll,
be
me
neil
denton,
the
city
sustainability
planner.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
I'm
happy
to
share
some
updates
with
you,
as
it
relates
to
social
equity
work.
We've
been
very
deep
and
steeped
in
discussing
for
the
last
two
hours,
but
specifically
in
the
nexus
of
social
equity
work
as
it
relates
to
sustainability
and
climate
action.
E
So
I'm
going
to
be
discussing
three
items
today
that
relate
to
social
equity
and
climate
action.
The
first
is
the
concept
of
climate
resilience
and
how
the
city
is
leading
with
strategies
to
protect
the
most
vulnerable.
E
Equality
and
equity
are
sometimes
used
interchangeably,
but
they
actually
convey
significantly
different
ideas.
Equity
is
about
fairness,
while
equality
is
about
sameness,
we're
not
interested
in
closing
the
gaps
by
equalizing
subpar
results
when
systems
and
structures
are
not
working
well,
they're,
often
not
working
well
across
the
board.
So
many
of
the
examples
of
strategies
to
advance
racial
equity
are
advantageous
not
only
for
people
of
color
but
for
all
communities.
E
We
are
embedding
equity
in
our
climate
planning
and
practice
because
we
need
to
ensure
our
climate
action
benefits.
Those
who
need
it
most
people
of
means
may
be
more
able
to
relocate
or
withstand
climate
impacts,
such
as
fires,
floods,
extreme
heat
due
to
a
history
of
marginalization
and
disinvestment
across
the
country
and
across
the
world.
People
of
color
immigrants,
refugees
and
lower
income
populations
experienced
increased
exposure
and
sensitivity
to
climate
hazards
and
a
reduced
capacity
to
adapt.
E
E
When
we
talk
about
climate
resilience,
what
we
mean
is
the
ability
of
people
in
their
communities
to
anticipate,
accommodate
and
positively
adapt
to
and
thrive
amidst
changing
climate
conditions
and
hazard
events.
Brazilian
communities
enjoy
a
high
quality
of
life,
reliable
systems,
economic
vitality
and
they
conserve
resources
for
present
and
future
generations.
E
I
spent
some
time
making
revisions
to
our
hazard
mitigation
plan,
which
was
already
very
good
in
terms
of
climate
change
and
prioritizing
those
who
experience
the
impacts
more
than
others,
but
by
being
included
in
that
group,
I'm
able
to
advance
the
conversation
around
climate
resilience
and
it's
been
a
very
fruitful
partnership
with
collin
and
now
his
team.
E
By
putting
key
language
in
the
hazard
mitigation
plan,
which
is
required
by
fema
in
the
state
every
five
years,
it
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
get
funding
from
fema
for
grant
programs
like
their
building
resilient
infrastructure
and
communities
grant
program.
That's
they're,
currently
accepting
applications
for
right
now
through
january.
E
Also,
a
part
of
the
hazard
mitigation
work.
The
office
of
emergency
management
does
is
mitigation,
outreach
and
one
really
effective
tool
for
our
mitigation.
Outreach
is
called
the
game
of
extremes
that
was
developed
by
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network.
Some
of
you,
you
know.
I
know
it's
been
a
lifetime
since
april,
but
some
of
you
may
recall
we
had
a
climate
resilience
training
planned
in
april
for
our
staff
and
elected
officials,
so
that
we
can
help
people
better
understand
the
vulnerability
and
risk
facing
our
community
from
extreme
events
that
are
going
to
be.
E
You
know,
continue
to
be
intensified
by
the
changing
climate.
What
you
see
here
is
the
game
board
the
game
of
extremes.
I
was
trained.
This
last
fall
as
a
trainer
to
facilitate
this
game.
Where
people
basically
take
on
a
role,
they
might
be
hoa
representative,
they
might
be
a
transportation
planner
and
the
people
that
come
to
the
table
they're
asked
to
take
on
a
different
role
so
that
they
can
get
more
familiar
with
a
different
perspective.
E
So
what
you
see
here,
the
sort
of
water
looking
lines
coming
up
is
there
is
flood
waters.
E
The
bright
red
areas
is
where
it's
going
to
get
hotter
and
as
you
go
through
this
game,
you
assess
the
hazards,
you
identify
vulnerability
and
risk,
and
you
develop
climate
resilience,
actions
based
on
a
specific
budget,
and
it
helps
people
really
get
familiar
with
the
limitations
of
budgets
and
it
gets
really
difficult
when
you're
trying
to
decide
between
prioritizing
the
senior
center
or
the
daycare
or
the
power
plant,
and
it
really
helps
participants
understand
the
challenges
that
cities
face
when
dealing
with
climate
mitigation
and
hazard
mitigation.
E
This
is
specifically
designed
for
local
governments
and
their
partners
to
train
staff
and
engage
communities
in
efforts
to
support
climate
resilience
and
it
it
promotes
incorporation
of
climate
resilience
and
equity
considerations
in
the
day-to-day
activities,
as
well
as
proactive
planning
efforts.
E
Earlier
this
year,
we
were
able
to
do
a
game
of
extremes
with
santa
fe,
the
santa
fe
masters
program
class
at
the
community
college.
That's
I
imagine,
you're
all
familiar
with
it.
Just
in
case
it
is
an
early
college
charter,
high
school
that
happens
at
the
community
college,
and
we
were
working
with
a
film
class
on
a
project
where
they
were
making
videos
showing
how
others
in
the
community
feel
about
climate
change.
E
How
others
in
the
community
are
doing
their
part
to
reduce
climate
change
and
adapt
to
its
impacts,
and
it
went
really
well
getting
the
students
involved
in
the
in
the
hard
decision
making
that
local
officials
and-
and
you
know,
community
based
organizations-
have
to
deal
with.
E
Another
item
that
we
were
advancing
that
was
somewhat
put
on
hold
old,
really
does
have
to
happen
in
person
the
concept
of
resilient
resilience
hubs.
These
are
community
serving
facilities
that
are
augmented
to
support
residents,
coordinate
communication,
distribute
resources
and
reduce
carbon
pollution,
while
enhancing
quality
of
life
they're
based
in
trusted
community
serving
facilities,
whether
that's
a
recreation
center
or
a
faith-based
institution.
E
E
They
provide
an
opportunity
to
consider
communities,
social,
economic
and
physical
needs
in
the
normal
or
everyday
mode
which
in
turns
which
in
turn
enhances
their
ability
to
anticipate,
accommodate
and
more
quickly
recover
during
disruption,
they're
a
way
to
solve
multiple
different
problems
in
all
three
resilience
modes,
those
being
normal
life
disruption
and
recovery.
E
They
do
so
by
enhancing
community
cohesion,
building
trust
and
enhancing
quality
of
life.
So
when
the
resilience
hub
is
in
normal
mode,
it
provides
a
home
base
for
residents,
businesses
and
organizations
to
gather
for
workshops,
events,
meals
and
training
opportunities
that
benefit
a
range
of
community
needs,
including
resilience.
E
They
function
in
the
normal
mode,
most
of
the
time,
meaning
there
are
no
hazards
present
and
all
critical
infrastructure
is
available
and
functioning
properly.
And
then,
when
disruption
happens,
they
also
act
as
centers
for
preparedness
response
and
recovery.
They
switch
from
normal
mode
into
reacting
and
responding
to
the
disruption
and
they
enhance
operations
to
better
support.
Immediate
community
needs
with
your
enhanced
systems
and
capacity
hubs
can
ideally
help
reduce
the
needs
of
emergency
services
and
better
connect
residents
and
businesses
with
supplies,
information
and
support
during
the
disruption.
E
Then,
for
the
third
mode
they
transition
to
recovery
after
disruption
hubs
are,
can
play
a
critical
role
in
post-disruption
recovery
and
ongoing
community
needs.
The
same
inequities
front-line
communities
experienced
before
and
during
a
disaster
tend
to
impact
their
ability
to
recover,
let
alone
thrive
after
a
disruption.
E
They
can
also
be
central
locations
for
external
partners
to
gather
and
support
recovery
services
such
as
conducting
needs
assessments,
damage
assessments,
interviews
with
residents
and
collecting
data,
both
in
their
contribution
to
preparation
and
their
ability
to
provide
services.
During
the
recovery
phase
of
a
disaster.
E
So
this
is
something
I've
been
discussing
with
with
kyle
mason
and
we'd
really
like
to
perhaps
bring
in
some
grant
funding
and
engage
in
conversations
with
community-based
organizations
about
how
and
where
resilience
hub
would
be
suitable
for
the
for
santa
fe,
but
it
is,
in
my
opinion,
it's
very
important
that
this
happens
in
person.
So
when
or
if
we're
at
that
point,
we
really
want
to
advance
this
concept
within
santa
fe
again,
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network
has
developed
a
guide
to
really
walk
us
through
it
step
by.
E
E
E
The
other
lines
you
can
see
here
correspond
to
different
ethnic
and
racial
groups,
and
the
energy
burden
that
is
experienced
by
low-income
households
is
twice
as
high
as
the
median.
E
So
that's
really
where
we
are
getting
into
the
social
equity
component
of
our
building
codes.
We've
had
the
single
family
green
building
code
since
2009
and
since
then,
every
year
it's
been
saving
17
million,
gallons
of
water
and
1400
metric
tons
of
emissions
for
those
households
and
helping
them
save
money
on
their
utilities.
E
Since
so,
this
is
our
pathway
to
carbon
neutral
for
our
building
codes
that
I
imagine
many
of
you
are
familiar
with.
E
Since
2006,
we
committed
to
adopting
the
us
conference
of
mayors
agreement
to
increase
our
fossil
fuel
reduction
standard
in
new
buildings,
with
the
schedule
that
you
see
here,
60
in
2010,
70
in
2015
and
so
on,
and
to
ultimately
achieve
carbon
neutral
buildings
in
2030,
and
this
goal
was
reiterated
in
2017,
which
councillor
villarreal
was
a
sponsor
on
and
also
restated
in
our
2018
sustainable
santa
fe
plan
right
now,
dee
bangert
who's,
unfortunately
left
the
city
had
revised
the
single-family
green
building
code
to
be
applicable
to
multi-family,
and
she
kind
of
passed
the
baton
to
me
and
I've
been
working
with
land
use
on
helping.
E
You
know
make
that
happen.
I
I've
learned
just
yesterday
that
they're
they're
making
progress
on
filling
that
green
building
code,
specialist
position
and
they're
going
to
be
able
to
post
it
this
month
and
then,
once
that
person
is
brought
in
jason,
kluge
informed
me
we'll
be
able
to
advance
that
revision
to
expand
the
green
building
code
to
multi-family
dwellings.
Where
we'll
really
see
more
of
that
impact
of
easing
the
energy
burden
because
of
more
low,
you
know
low-income
individuals
and
multi-family
residences.
E
Another
element-
that's
very
important-
is
the
state,
construction
and
industries
cic,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
john
and
blank.
I
want
to
see
as
construction
industries
commission
approved,
adopting
the
2018
international
energy
conservation
code,
which
is
going
to
reduce
the
energy
use
in
new
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
By
about
25
percent.
E
We
were
three
code
cycles
behind
is
an
international
code
that
cities
can
choose,
states
can
choose
to
adopt
or
not,
and
so
we've
missed
three
code
cycles
under
the
prior
state
administration.
E
So
it's
pretty
monumental
that
this
was
just
adopted
by
the
state
and
it's
it's
going
to
apply
to
new
buildings
in
santa
fe,
and
that
means
it's
essentially
going
to
equal
a
her
score
of
61..
E
I
also
want
to
let
you
all
know.
We
were
recently
accepted
into
a
rocky
mountain
institute,
residential
solar
cohort,
which
is
a
peer
learning
cohort
to
help
us
increase
residential
solar
energy
and
reduce
that
energy
burden,
specifically
in
historically
marginalized
communities
that
have
had
more
barriers
to
accessing
solar
energy
than
other
communities.
E
E
Lastly,
I
want
to
discuss
this
equity
foundations
training
we
just
put
on
for
five
staff
until
through
july
and
august.
This
is
a
training
designed
to
begin
building
capacity
to
advance
social
equity.
Here
it
was
developed
by
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network,
the
government
alliance
for
race
and
equity
and
the
center
for
social
inclusion
to
help
local
governments
apply
an
equity
lens
to
their
projects.
E
As
you
can
see
here,
we
start
with
the
opportunity
for
government
to
advance
racial
equity
and
using
seattle
as
a
case
study
go
into
communicating
about
equity,
looking
at
narratives,
framing
and
messaging,
and
then
we
work
on
key
terminology
and
building
a
shared
understanding
of
equity
or
really
getting
into
the
meat
of
it
and
using
an
equity
lens
in
our
work,
implementing
racial
equity
tools
and
then
workshop
5
is
about
building
racial
equity
teams
to
ensure
effective
implementation
of
the
racial
equity
tool.
E
The
the
five
employees
that
went
through
it
were
andrew
erdmann,
our
water
conservation,
specialist,
charlene
sitton,
the
environmental
services
division
director,
elizabeth
camacho
in
economic
development,
melissa,
mcdonald,
our
interim
parks,
division
director
and
carlos
gamora
senior
land
use
planner,
and
carlos
is
actually
here
at
the
meeting
wanting
to
say
something
about
his
experience
in
the
training.
But
he
emailed
me
that
he
had
to
sign
off,
and
so,
unfortunately,
he
wasn't
able
to
provide
his
experience.
E
Here
is
a
a
real
quote
from
one
of
the
participants
in
the
training
she,
this
person
emailed
me
and
just
said,
thank
you
for
making
this
possible
and
that
this
person
has
started
making
headway
and
sharing
equity
as
part
of
their
work.
Added
that
made
this
person
feel
more
empowered.
E
When
navigating
the
conversation,
we
did
surveys
after
each
training
and
all
the
participants
said
they
now
better
understand
key
opportunities
to
normalize,
organize
and
operationalize
racial
equity
that
they
better
understand
how
to
talk
about
race
and
race-based
inequities
in
a
manner
that
advances
racial
equity
and
that
they
better
understand
how
to
build
organizational
capacity
to
advance
racial
equity.
Here,
because
this
training
was
developed
five
years
ago
in
2015,
it
does
not
directly
address
the
current
racial
equity
conversations,
just,
for
example
around
like
monument
removals
and
the
conversations
that
are
happening
nationwide
around
racial
equity.
E
E
The
real
meat
of
the
training
is
this
racial
equity
tool
designed
by
the
government
alliance
for
race
and
equity,
and
this
is
a
high
level
look
at
it.
There
is
a
pdf
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
it's,
you
know,
40
pages
long
or
so,
and
each
of
these
questions
has
sub-questions
that
can
be
asked
to
analyze
our
policies
and
our
practices,
but
at
its
core,
the
racial
equity
tool.
E
We
ask
these
questions,
you
know
what
is
the
policy
program
practice
or
budget
decision
under
consideration
and
what
are
the
desired
results
and
outcomes,
and
we
need
to
be
data
driven?
What's
the
data?
What
does
it
tell
us?
We
need
to
ask:
how
have
communities
been
engaged
and
are
there
opportunities
to
expand
engagement
and
then
analyze,
who
will
benefit
or
be
burdened
by
the
proposal
and
talk
about
what
our
strategies
are
for
advancing
racial
equity
or
mitigating
the
unintended
consequences?
E
E
We
have
written
up
some
a
proposal
for
city
management
and
we're
we're
in
discussions
right
now
about
what
and
how
we're
going
to
to
advance
this
conversation
in
santa
fe.
E
One
last
thing
I
wanted
to,
let
you
all
know
about
is
I'm
participating
in
a
grant
program
funded
by
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network,
I'm
working
with
10
other
cities
and
kauai
county
and
hawaii.
You
can
see
the
cities
we're
working
on
here
on
refining,
a
framework
to
transition,
our
climate
planning
and
action
to
better
lead
with
people
and
make
sure
those
who
are
most
impacted
by
the
changing
climate
are
the
ones
who
receive
our
services
first.
E
This
wheel,
you
see
here,
is
kind
of
the
framework
for
the
for
the
guide
we're
all
working
on
together,
and
hopefully
you
can
see
it
all
right.
It's
designed
to
be
dynamic,
it's
very
intentional
that
it's
circular,
the
the
initial
framework
that
was
developed
by
these
same
cities
in
2018
was
linear
and
then,
after
much
discussion,
it
was
decided.
This
is
more
of
a
circular
process.
If
you
do
your
internal
organizing,
you
build
your
racial
equity
team.
E
First,
then,
you
move
on
to
getting
familiar
with
community
dynamics,
setting
a
shared
pathway
with
the
community
co-developing
actions
when
it
says
at
the
nexus
that
means
mitigation,
resilience
and
equity
co-developing
our
actions
with
the
community,
partnering
and
implementation
of
those
actions
reflecting
learning
and
progressing
and
continuing
continuing
around
that
process.
This
guide
will
have
lots
of
resources
for
us
to
refer
to
you
know
our
climate
plans
and
projects
are
only
successful
if
all
people
are
prioritized
at
the
center
of
solutions.
E
We've
designed
something
that's
really
interesting
about
this
program
is:
we
do
actually
have
access
to
equity,
coaching
from
some
national
experts,
and
we
are
intended
to
test
the
framework
to
be
the
beta
testers
here
by
participating
in
this.
It's
just
finishing
up.
We
were
going
to
do
it
in
person
convening
earlier
this
year,
but
instead
it's
been
broken
up
into
a
number
of
workshops
and
we're
doing
the
last
one
next
month.
E
So
I'm
really
hoping
this.
This
helps
us
advance
our
sustainable
santa
fe
plan
strategies,
while
leading
with
equity.
B
Thank
you,
neil
for
your
presentation
and
sorry
about
the
hour
counselor
via
real.
You
have
your
blue
hand.
J
Raised,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
neil
for
this.
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
and
ways
to
share
what
you
all
are
doing
in
your
work
related
to
sustainability
and
making
equity
a
prime
pillar
of
the
work
you
do,
and
so
this
is
exciting
to
see
this
presentation.
It
might
be
something
that
we
can
in.
J
I
guess
move
forward
that
we've
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
potential
presentation
that
a
national
organization
wanted
us
to
be
involved
in.
So
I
think
this
is.
This
might
be
something
that
we
could
consider
and
just
really
excited
that
you're
part
of
the
hazard
mitigation
or
mitigation
outreach
team.
That's
like
makes
complete
sense
to
me
the
fact
that
hazard
mitigation
and
our
plan,
for
it
really
does
involve
people
and
how
equity
plays
into
that.
J
E
Correct
we
have
not
established
a
resilience
hub
with
the
framework
established
with
that
guidance.
You
know
there
are
facilities
in
santa
fe
that
people
might
describe
as
something
like
that
and
they
they
come
to
the
top
of
the
list,
as
as
prime
candidates
for
us
to
play
a
role
in
hardening
the
structure,
maybe
with
solar
plus
battery
storage.
So
when
there
is
a
disruption,
there's
still
power
there.
E
So
I
do
not
think
we
need
to
start
from
scratch,
but
it
depends
on
the
certain
neighborhood.
It
would
really
be
best
at
a
neighborhood
level
if
the
residents
tell
us
where
they
want
to
go,
because
this
is
somewhat
the
idea.
Is
it's
somewhat
in
reaction
to
there's
a
catastrophe?
You
have
to
evacuate.
No
one
wants
to
go
to
the
high
school
gymnasium
and
sleep
on
a
cot,
so
it's
important
that
it's
where
people
want
to
go
where
they're
familiar
with,
but
no
we
have
not
done
any
work
in
the
resilience
hub.
J
Right
yeah,
it
sounded
like
you
were
thinking
of
hubs
for
normal
times
and
then
also
for
emergency
response,
preparedness
and
recovery,
so
maybe
covet
does
actually
help
us
inform
or
inform
us
as
to
where
these
hubs
could
be
located
and
what
the
like
mutual
aid
groups
are
doing
and
where
they're
delivering
resources
and
and
such
so
maybe
it's
also
both
like
we
don't
have
an
ability
right
now
together,
but
to
kind
of
just
be
aware
of
what's
happening
now
with
and
how
food
you
know.
J
E
Chair
counselor,
that's
a
that's
a
good
point
and
I
just
want
to
add:
we
were
discussing
with
earthcare
last
week,
who's
been
working
on
that
mutual
aid
about
distribution
networks
and
hubs.
J
Although
I
wish
we
still
had
the
person
that
was
in
that
position,
but
you
know,
hopefully
we
can
find
somebody
with
as
much
experience
and
just
excited
about
the
equity,
foundation's
training
and
the
government
alliance
to
racial
equity,
and
I
found
it
interesting
that
you
were
saying
that
you
know
that
this
could
be
actually
applied
to
other
departments,
not
just
yours
and
the
team
that
you
said
were
able
to
participate,
because
I
brought
up
the
same
issue
to
the
hr
director
about
what
albuquerque
was
doing
around
racial
equity
and
kind
of
leading
that
effort
and
actually
investing
in
it,
and
they
basically
made
an
excuse
saying
that
they
didn't
think
we
were
had
funding
for
that.
J
J
So
I'm
hoping
that
that's
the
conversation
you're
talking
about
you
may
want
to
mention
that
I
was
concerned
about
this,
that
we
do
need
to
move
in
this
direction
and
we
don't
need
to
create
a
new
department
just
for
this
effort
that
you
all
have
a
foundation
to
start
with
and
that
we
could
actually
have
other
departments
fold
into
that
and
be
part
of
that
training
effort.
J
So
let
me
know
how
I
can
help
with
that,
because
I
think
it's
important
and
even
if
it's
just
like
basics,
like
basic
terms,
to
understand
racial
equity
and
systemic
racism
and
understanding
those
terms
and
then
how
they
apply
to
our
work
would
be
very
important
for
all
departments
and
directors.
So
let
me
know
how
I
can
help
with
that,
because
we
don't
need
a
bunch
of
money
to
actually
make
it
happen
in
my
opinion.
So
that's
all.
J
E
Counselor
and
I
just
do
want
to
add
human
resources
as
a
part
of
that
discussion
I
mentioned,
and
it's
all
very
fresh
as
of
yesterday,
so
thank
you
for
your
support.
B
Seeing
none
thank
you,
neil
again,
completely
echo
counselor
via
real,
thank
you
for
for
staying
with
us
tonight
and
for
coming
back
to
to
flesh
out
some
of
the
stuff
you
touched
on
the
last
meeting.
So
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
it.
B
Okay,
we
are
now,
let's
see
back
to
our
regular
screen.
Are
there
matters
from
staff?
None
tonight?
Madam
chair
great
matters
from
the
committee.
D
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
just
also
want
to
thank
neil
for
presenting
tonight's
aaron
and
get
my
hand
up
quick
enough,
a
great
thorough
presentation,
and
I
really
really
thought
there
was
lots
of
great
info
for
for
us
to
move
in
a
positive
direction,
but
but
on
the
topic
of
presentations
I
I
think
we
really
need
to
ensure
that
they
don't
take
precedence
over
committee
work.
D
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
would
be
a
bad
path
for
us
to
go
down.
If
we
get
in
the
habit
of
saying
we
need
to
rush
questions
because
it's
a
long
night
and
we
still
got
presentations
to
go
so
I
don't
know
if
maybe
limiting
presentations
to
15
minutes.
That
way
we
don't
get
get
into
that
pressured
situation.
D
You
know,
I
know
sometimes
a
particular
legislation
or
whatever
it
is
comes
before
us
and
we
might
be
able
to
touch
it
twice.
I
know
there's
the
instance
of
one
of
our
colleagues
only
has
the
opportunity
to
touch
matters
in
front
of
committees.
Once
I
mean-
and
so
I
don't
think,
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
get
in
that
habit
of
limiting
debate
on
particular
topics,
especially
on
something
where
it
really
has
a
lot
of
community
input
behind
it.
D
So
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
possibility
to
limiting
presentations
in
the
future
to
15
minutes,
because
I
think
it
really
does
a
disservice
to
the
the
committee
business.
That's
in
front
of
us,
if
we,
if
committee
members,
feel
pressured
that
they
have
to
hurry
and
ask
their
questions
because
we've
got
a
presentation
later,
which
should
not
take
precedence
over
the
committee
business.
J
Thank
you
other
questions
on
that
point
comments.
Well,
just
on
that
point.
I
think
yeah
not
limiting
time
to
talk
about
topics
or
issues
on
our
agenda,
but
at
the
same
time
presentations
we
don't
want
them
to
be
cut
short
either.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
knowing
we
had
an
addition
to
our
agenda
with
this
already
complex
issue
with
the
lease
of
the
shelter
and
then
realizing
that
it
probably
would
take
long
and
and
then
asking
staff
to
maybe
do
the
presentation
at
the
next
meeting.
J
I
don't
know
what
the
balance
is,
because
I
don't
like
to
shortchange
our
staff
either
that
have
put
so
much
time
into
their
presentations
and
also
information.
That
really
is
important
for
us
to
know
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
balance
is,
and
I
know
sometimes
it's
not
always
planned.
J
So
I
don't
know
I
guess
chair
just
to
be
cognizant.
If
we
have
these
items
that
sometimes
get
added,
maybe
we
just
tell
staff
that
we'd
like
them
to
present
at
another
meeting.
I
don't
know
it's
hard
to
say
because
I
don't
know
what
the
future
meeting
is
about
or
what
you
all
have
had
planned
so,
but
thank
you
councillor,
garcia,
for
bringing
that
up.
B
Thank
you
for
the
comments.
Other
other
comments
from
the
committee.
B
I
think
we're
on
to
matters
from
the
chair.
I
have
none,
except
that
our
next
meeting
is
jennifer
help
me
21st
21st,
thank
you
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you
everybody.
I
think
it
was
a
good
conversation.