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Zachary
greco:
good
evening.,
zachary
greco:,
good
evening..
I
would
like
to
call
to
order.
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
the
november
2
public
hearing
the
november
2
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
company
for
the
city
of
company
architectural
review.
Comm.
Architectural
review.
Comm.
Commission.-
commission.-
welcome,
everyone,.
I
am
zachary
welcome,
everyone,.
I
am
zachary
greco,.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
greco,.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
if
you
were
here
to
present
a
if
you
were
here
to
present
a
project,,
you
will
have
limited
project,.
A
You
will
have
limited
time
to
make
a
presentation
so
time
to
make
a
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
and
we
suggest
being
thorough
and
concise.
concise.
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
identify
yourself
and
your
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
relationship
to
the
project.
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
questions
during
your
presentation.
presentation..
The
project
should
be
completed.
A
The
project
should
be
completed
in
the
following
order.
in
the
following
order.
site:
plan,
design,
staff
will
site
plan,,
design,
staff
will
then
present.
The
staff
report
then
present
the
staff
report,
and
then
we
will
ask
the
public
and
then
we
will
ask
the
public
for
any
comment.
for
any
comment..
Following
your
presentation,
following
your
presentation,,
the
commissioner
will
be
asking
the
commissioner
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
of.
A
Questions
in
the
same
order
of
the
presentation.,
the
presentation.
state
and
smell
your
name
state
and
smell
your
name,
clearly.
clearly.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time,
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
three
minutes.
take
time
to
summarize
your
take
time.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes.
A
A
Following
public
comment,,
we
will
allow
five
minutes
for
will
allow
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
and
any
comments
that
rebuttal
and
any
comments
that
will
be
allowed
after
the
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
is
in
public
hearing
is
closed,
is
in
response
to
any
questions
from
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioner.
the
commissioner.
commissioners
will
discuss.
A
A
A
C
D
D
Good
evening,
commis
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
staff,
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
staff,
with
historic
presentation.,
with
historic
presentation.
under
announcements,
in
your
under
announcements,
in
your
pockets,
we
have
the
staff
pockets,.
We
have
the
staff
reviews
from
the
month
of
reviews
from
the
month
of
october.
october..
This
is
just
so
you
can
follow.
This
is
just
so.
You
can
follow
what
the
staff
is
doing
and
you
what
the
staff
is
doing
and
you
have
an
understanding
of
how.
D
D
D
Leaving
--
amber
dickerson
leering,
the
board.
leering,
the
board..
We
thank
you
for
her
time
and
we
thank
you
for
her
time
and
her
service
was
up
and
she
held
her
service
was
up
and
she
held
the
vice-chair
position..
The
vice-chair
position.
in
concert
with
the
roberts
in
concert
with
the
roberts
rules
of
order.
D
D
F
D
C
F
Susan
klaus
smith:
thank
y
you.
you.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city,
attorney's
office.
city,
attorney's,
office.,
at
this
time,
commissioners,
at
this
time,
commissioners,.
Can
you
state
whether
or
not
can
you
state
whether
or
not
there
are
any
conflicts
of
there
are
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
the
items.
F
D
D
D
D
C
A
D
D
D
D
Is
ro-1.
a
certificate
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
appropriateness.
and
a
request
for
demolition
of
and
a
request
for
demolition
of
a
contributing
structure.,
a
contributing
structure..
The
contributing
structure
has
the
contributing
structure?
Has
approximately
4,000
square
f,
approximately
4,000
square
f,
feet.
feet..
If
you
look
on
page
three
of
if
you
look
on
page
three
of
your
staff
report,
there
are
your
staff
report,.
There
are
some
past
action,
there.
D
D
With
staff
since
february
2018.
to
try
to
rehabilitate
this
to
try
to
rehabilitate
this
structure.
structure.
and
we
have
been
in
concert
and
we
have
been
in
concert
with
them-
the
whole
time
moving
with
them
the
whole
time
moving
forward.
forward..
It
seems
like
every
time
that
it
seems
like
every
time
that
they
try
to
move
forward
in
a
they
try
to
move
forward
in
a
positive
direction.
There
was
positive
direction.
There
was
some
challenges.
That
would
be
some
challenges
that
would
be
addressed
this
evening
through
addressed
this
evening
through
their
report.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
There
is
an
alley
that
runs
to
--.
I
am
going
to
call
the
east
--.
I
am
going
to
call
the
east
of
the
property,,
the
north
of
the
property,,
the
north
arrow
is
up.,
arrow
is
up.
and
you
see
some
of
the
fabric
and
you
see
some
of
the
fabric
that
remains,
and
you
see
some
that
remains,
and
you
see
some
the
fabric
that
has
been
the
fabric
that
has
been
removed.
removed.,
and
I
will
show
an
aerial
now
and
I
will
show
an
aerial
now
that
you
will
see
345
bayshore.
D
D
D
boulevard..
I
am
briefly
going
to
show.
I
am
briefly
going
to
show
pictures
of
the
structure.
pictures
of
the
structure..
This
is
the
front
elevation..
This
is
the
front
elevation..
The
representatives
will
show
a
the
representatives
will
show
a
complete
presentation
to
complete
presentation
to
include
many
photo.
That's
will
include
many
photo.
That's
will
get
deeper
into
--
into
the
get
deeper
into
--
into
the
request.
D
D
And
just
the
last
photo
just
how
it
sits.,
how
it
sits.-
and
these
were
just
taken
a-
and
these
were
just
taken
a
couple
of
months,
ago.
couple
of
months
ago.
at
this
time,
I
will
introduce
at
this
time,.
I
will
introduce
shawn
as
the
agent
for
the
shawn
as
the
agent
for
the
project
and
he
will
address
the
project
and
he
will
address
the
board
at
this
time.
E
E
Principal
owner
has
done
a
lot,
including
the
very
nice,
including
the
very
nice
headquarters,
on
platt
street
headquarters
on
platt
street
halfway
between
howard
in
halfway
between
howard
in
downtown,
which
used
to
just
be
downtown,
which
used
to
just
be
a
dilapidated
area.,
a
dilapidated
area..
He
has
also
over
the
last
few
he
has
also
over
the
last
few
years,
rehabilitated
five
other
years
rehabilitated.
Five
other
properties
that
are
in
the
very.
E
Properties
that
are
in
the
very
close
proximity
to
the
subject:
close
proximity
to
the
subject,
property
and
each
of
those
property
and
each
of
those
instances
he
purchased
the
instances
he
purchased
the
property,
with
the
intent
to
property,
with
the
intent
to
renovate
it,,
to
improve
it,
and
renovate
it,
to
improve
it,
and
to
maintain
it.
to
maintain
it..
And
he
did
that
every
one
of,
and
he
did
that,
every
one
of
those
times.
those
times.
unfortunately,.
This
has
been
an
unfortunately,.
E
E
Alluded
to
and
spend
$155,000
on
professionals
for
design,
on
professionals
for
design,,
architecture,
construction,
and,,
architecture,,
construction,
and,
etc,.
It
got
to
the
point
after
etc,.
It
got
to
the
point
after
peeling
back
some
of
the
layers
peeling
back
some
of
the
layers,
as
you
can
see
from
the
layers.
E
As
you
can
see
from
the
layers
from
mr.
vila,,
it
was
evidence
from
mr.
vila,.
It
was
evidence
this
was
--.
It
was
evident
that
this
was
--.
It
was
evident
that
this
was
not
a
structure
that
this
was
not
a
structure
that
was
going
to
be
saved.
was
going
to
be
saved..
We
will
hear
from
our
we
will
hear
from
our
structural
engineer,
mr.
kevin.
E
E
E
E
The
client
has
spent
extensive
resources,
time
and
money
in
an
resources,
time
and
money
in
an
effort
to
rehabilitate
this
effort,
to
rehabilitate
this
property
as
work
with
mr.
vila
property
as
work
with
mr.
vila
with
his
folks
for
months
and
with
his
folks
for
months
and
months,
and
in
a
point
that
the
months
and
in
a
point
that
the
building
is
simply
in
a
state
building
is
simply
in
a
state
of
disrepair
and
deterioration.
E
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
but
jumped
to
800,000..
Eventually,
as
more
things
were
eventually
as
more
things
were
uncovered,
it
jumped
today,
1.2
uncovered,
it
jumped
today,
1.2
million.
million..
We
know
from
past
experience,
we
we
know
from
past
experience,
we
can
deline
and
build
a
project,
can
deline
and
build
a
project
in
this
location
for
probably
in
this
location
for
probably
$700,000,.
So
this
is
exceeding.
G
$700,000,,
so
this
is
exceeding
far
exceeding
the
reality
of
far
exceeding
the
reality
of
any
type
of
return
of
the
any
type
of
return
of
the
investment
within
the
lifetime.
Investment
within
the
lifetime
of
the
client
for
sure.
of
the
client
for
sure..
I
want
to
go
over
the
I
want
to
go
over
the
application
of
standards.
G
application
of
standards..
If
you
are
looking
at
this,
if
you
are
looking
at
this
book,,
basically
page
7.,
book,,
basically
page
7.,
27-116.
27-116.
and
we
kind
of
--,
I
don't
want
and
we
kind
of
--.
I
don't
want
to
go
through
every
item
and
I
to
go
through
every
item
and
I
only
have
30
minutes.
only
have
30
minutes..
I
don't
want
to
keep
you
longer.
G
G
G
G
G
G
To
come
back
and
speak
to
them
in
more
detail.
in
more
detail.,
looking
at
the
list
of
exh
looking
at
the
list
of
exh
exhibits,,
I
want
to
go
through
exhibits,.
I
want
to
go
through
and
explain
quickly
how
much
and
explain
quickly
how
much
time
you
guys
have
to
look
time.
You
guys
have
to
look
through
the
document.
G
G
G
G
G
Demolition
is
pretty
str,
straightforward.
straightforward..
I
don't
think
that
is
the
most.
I
don't
think
that
is
the
most
important
factor,
here.
important
factor,
here.
tab
2
gets
to
one
of
most
tab.
2
gets
to
one
of
most
important
items:
the
structural,
important
items,
the
structural
engineering,
report.
G
G
The
architect
comes
down
to
--.
We
have
a
construction
manager,
we
have
a
construction
manager
involved
in
this
project
and
he
involved
in
this
project
and
he
has
put
together
a
very
well
has
put
together
a
very
well
detailed
schedule,
values
which
detailed
schedule,
values
which
show
you
clearly
the
expense
show
you
clearly
the
expense
incurred
if
they
continue
down
incurred.
If
they
continue
down
this
road.,
this
road.
keep
in
mind
the
$1.2
million.
G
G
G
G
G
6,-
and
we
can
look
at
that
now,-
you
can
start
to
see
he
has
a
you
can
start
to
see.
He
has
a
dedication
to
historic
dedication,
to
historic
preservation
and
has
done
preservation
and
has
done
everything
within
this
everything
within
this
community
to
bring
back
the
community
to
bring
back
the
context
and
fabric
of
this
context
and
fabric
of
this
neighborhood
to
its
once
more
neighborhood
to
its
once
more
substantial
point.,
substantial
point..
Those
are
just
two
of
the
those
are
just
two
of
the
houses:
nearby.
G
G
G
G
Which,
I
think
is
a
critically
important
part
of
this.
important
part
of
this.
as
we
get
to
item
x,
which
is,
as
we
get
to
item
x,
which
is
exhibit
16,.
It
talks
about
the
exhibit
16,
it
talks
about
the
rehabilitation,
timeline
and
rehabilitation
timeline
and
communications.
communications..
If
we
could
just
quickly
kind,
if
we
could
just
quickly
kind
of
look
at
that.
G
So
over
the
course
of
two
years,
working
with
soul,
design,
st
working
with
soul,
design,
st
studio,,
they
went
through
studio,.
They
went
through
extensive
efforts
trying
their
extensive
efforts
trying
their
best
to
rehab
this
building.
best
to
rehab
this
building.
we
have
already
talked
about.
We
have
already
talked
about
the
expenses
incurred
that.
G
The
expenses
incurred
that
doesn't
include
the
carrying
doesn't
include
the
carrying
cost
of
the
loan
on
this
cost
of
the
loan
on
this
property
for
nearly
two
years.
property
for
nearly
two
years..
On
top
of
that,
once
we
got
a
on
top
of
that,
once
we
got
a
point,
it
made
no
sense
point.
It
made
no
sense
continuing
forward
and
look
at
continuing
forward
and
look
at
another
option,.
It
has
been
ten
another
option,.
It
has
been
ten
months
sin.
We
have
been
months
sin
we
have
been
involved
in
the
project.
involved
in
the
project..
G
studied
the
site.,
designed
conceptually
the
designed
conceptually
the
building
that
will
match
the
building
that
will
match
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
context
of
the
neighborhood,
and
they
think
that
will
be
a
good.
They
think
that
will
be
a
good
fit
and
a
good
solution
to
this
fit
and
a
good
solution
to
this
situation.
situation..
Going
back
to
the
timeline
here.
G
G
G
Termite
and
water
damage,
and
it
appears
there
were
multiple
appears.
There
were
multiple
fires
in
this
building.
fires
in
this
building..
The
reason
we
say
that
evidence
the
reason
we
say
that
evidence
on
the
west
side
of
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
a
fire
and
on
the
east,
building
a
fire
and
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
a
fire.
G
G
G
Fire
damage
there
as
well..
There
are
a
ton
of
photograph.
There
are
a
ton
of
photograph,
that's
maybe
we
can
come
back.
That's
maybe
we
can
come
back
to,,
but
for
right
now
I
would
to,,
but
for
right
now.
I
would
like
to
hand
this
over
to
kevin
like
to
hand
this
over
to
kevin
kemp,
to
speak
to
the
structural
kemp,
to
speak
to
the
structural
portions
of
this.
H
H
H
H
H
Ledgers
and
ceiling
joyce
had
apparent
damage.
apparent
damage.,
the
second
floor,
wall
framing.,
the
second
floor,
wall.
Framing..
There
is
significant
damage.
There
is
significant
damage
that
would
require
removing
that
would
require
removing
wall
framing
and
previous
wall
framing
and
previous
support
beams.
To
provide
new
support
beams
to
provide
new,
continuous
2,
x,
6
stud,
framing.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Of
the
house
was
about
25
feet
in
length,,
which
is
in
length,,
which
is
discontinuous
and
portions
are
discontinuous,
and
portions
are
damaged.,
damaged.
the
first
floor
wall,
framing,
the
first
floor
wall
framing,,
starting
at
the
back
of
the
starting
at
the
back
of
the
house
on
the
northeast
corner
house
on
the
northeast
corner,
extend
together
west
side,,
the
extend
together
west
side,,
the
plate
is
damaged
and
plate
is
damaged
and
discontinuous
and
in
some
areas.
H
H
H
H
H
Surrounding
area.,
so
in
conclusion
over
course
of
so
in
conclusion
over
course
of
many
years
to
natural
elements,
many
years
to
natural
elements,,
termite
and
fire
damage
left,
termite
and
fire
damage
left
this
structure
to
incur
this
structure
to
incur
significant,
costly
structural,
significant,
costly
structural
damage.
damage.
in
order
to
repair
localized
in
order
to
repair
localized
damage
needs
to
be
considered.
H
work
that
needs
to
be
remained..
The
damage
in
this
report
is
the
damage
in
this
report
is
only
that
which
was
easily
only
that
which
was
easily
visible
at
the
time
of
the
visible
at
the
time
of
the
inspection
and
our
professional
inspection
and
our
professional
opinion
that
additional
damage
opinion
that
additional
damage
to
the
wall,
sheathing,
board
to
the
wall,
sheathing,
board
and
deck
boards.
H
G
G
G
G
This
is
very
schematic,
and
we
just
want
to
demonstrate
to
you
just
want
to
demonstrate
to
you
that
we
have
clearly
in
mind
that
we
have
clearly
in
mind
the
intentions
of
designing
and
the
intentions
of
designing
and
completing
something
in
a
fair,
completing
something
in
a
fair
amount
of
time,,
hopefully
in
amount
of
time,,
hopefully
in
just
a
few
months.,
just
a
few
months..
I
know
we
will
go
through
this.
G
I
know
we
will
go
through
this
arc
process,
again,,
but
clearly
arc
process
again,,
but
clearly
our
intent
to
continue
down
our
intent
to
continue
down
this
path
and
design,
something
this
path
and
design,
something
that
will
fit
perfectly
in
that
will
fit
perfectly
in
context
of
this
neighborhood.
context
of
this
neighborhood..
Now,
if
you
don't
mind,,
I
would
now,
if
you
don't
mind,,
I
would
like
to
go
to
the
final
tab.
G
Like
to
go
to
the
final
tab.
tab,
17.
tab
17.
kind
of
go
through
some
of
kind
of
go
through
some
of
these
pictures.
So
you
get
a
these
pictures,
so
you
get
a
little
bit
better
understanding
little
bit
better
understanding
of
the
current
status
of
the
of
the
current
status
of
the
building.
building.,
the
very
first
building,
with
the
very
first
building
with
the
ever
build
on
it.
We
are
the
ever
build
on
it.
G
G
Structural
engineer's
nailing
pattern.
pattern..
You
can
also
see
if
you
look,
you
can
also
see
if
you
look
closely,
the
soul.
Plate
is
kind
closely,,
the
soul.
Plate
is
kind
of
warped
and
causing
some
of
of
warped
and
causing
some
of
the
walls
to
be
leaning,,
the
walls
to
be
leaning,,
leaning
to
the
left-hand
side.,
leaning
to
the
left-hand
side..
If
you
go
through,
another,
if
you
go
through,
another
picture
on
the
second
page,
with
picture
on
the
second
page,
with
the
ever
built
weather.
G
G
G
Some
of
the
floor,
joints,,
as
you
can
see,
have
termite
da
you
can
see,
have
termite
da
damage.
damage..
Some
of
these
are
in
need
of
some
of
these
are
in
need
of
replacement.
replacement..
If
you
flip
the
page
again
--,
I,
if
you
flip
the
page
again
--,
I
don't
know
if
you
are
looking
a
don't
know
if
you
are
looking
a
it
nor
floor
joyces,
but
they
it
nor
floor
joyces,
but
they
are
charred
from
one
of
the.
G
You
don't
have
to
touch
it.
okay.
okay..
Can
you
hear
me
okay??
Can
you
hear
me
okay?
thank
you.
thank
you.,
so,
in
this
image
here,
you
can
so
in
this
image.
Here,.
You
can
kind
of
start
to
see
these
kind
of
start
to
see
these
boards
right
here
are
--.
This
boards
right
here
are
--.
This
one,
for
instance,
has
about
one,
for
instance,
has
about
one-third
of
it
gone
on
the
one-third
of
it
gone
on
the
exterior.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
beam
at
the
floor
level.
that
is
very
well
rotted
out..
That
is
very
well
rotted
out.
in
this
situation,.
You
may
look
in
this
situation,.
You
may
look
at
this
and
say
that
pier
is
in
at
this
and
say
that
pier
is
in
good
shape,,
but
the
beam
I
am
good
shape,,
but
the
beam
I
am
looking
at
in
this
image.
G
G
G
G
This
is
a
different
pier.,
different
location.,
different
location.,
but
similar
situation,
where
a
but
similar
situation,
where
a
lot
of
the
bricks
have
fallen
lot
of
the
bricks
have
fallen.
Out.
out.
not
much
there,
that
is
holding
not
much
there.
That
is
holding
this
thing
together
at
this,
this
thing
together
at
this
point.
G
G
G
G
G
We
look
at
the
balloon
framing
as
it
is
meant
to
be
to
hold,
as
it
is
meant
to
be,
to
hold
all
the
way
to
the
roof,
and
we
all
the
way
to
the
roof,
and
we
see
damage
to
the
lower
level,
see
damage
to
the
lower
level
that
really
causing
some
that
really
causing
some
concern.
concern..
The
building
has
lean
to
some.
G
G
If
you
have
a
gap
between
the
floorboard
and
the
beam,
that
floorboard
and
the
beam,
that
is
very
concerning.
is
very
concerning..
We
believe
strongly.
This
has
we
believe
strongly.
This
has
outlived
its
lifespan
and
to
outlived
its
lifespan
and
to
rehab
it.
We
have
estimates
and
rehab
it.
We
have
estimates
and
the
owner
made
a
very.
G
F
F
F
Owners
is,
we
really
did
another
effort
looking
to
see
how
we
effort
looking
to
see
how
we
can
rehabilitate
this
building
can
rehabilitate
this
building,
even
though
it
has
gone
through,
even
though
it
has
gone
through
soul,
design,
before.,
soul,
design,
before.
and
it
quickly
became
apparent,
and
it
quickly
became
apparent
that
the
owners
thought
of
how.
F
F
With
ron,
and
we
were
very
open
with
ron
going
over
how
we
were
with
ron
going
over
how
we
were
looking
at
rehabilitating
it;,
looking
at
rehabilitating
it;
however,
workshop
running
into
however,
workshop
running
into
more
and
more
roadblocks.,
more
and
more
roadblocks.
one
of
the
things
we
also
did.
F
Was
met
with
spanish
town
creek,
civic
association.,
civic
association..
We
were
very
open
to
them.
What
we
were
very
open
to
them,
what
we
were
going
to
do.
we
were
going
to
do..
We
met
on-site
with
the
we
met
on-site
with
the
association.
association.
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
--.
While
they
were
walking
--
while
they
were
walking
through
it,.
They
also
saw
this.
F
F
F
F
F
And
so
we
also
have
been
really
open,
with
them,
kind
of
going
open,
with
them,
kind
of
going
over
what
we
are
proposing
to
over
what
we
are
proposing
to
put
there.
put
there.
and
we
have
gone
through
a
and
we
have
gone
through
a
couple
of
iterations,
modifying
couple
of
iterations,
modifying
a
few
things
to
make
sure
it
a
few
things
to
make
sure
it
fit
what
they
would
like
in
fit.
What
they
would
like
in
that
neighborhood
as
well.
F
E
I
kind
of
felt
like
we
may
have
been
over
inclusive
with
been
over
inclusive
with
information,,
but
at
the
same
information,,
but
at
the
same
time,.
I
you
believed
stand
this
time,.
I
you
believed
stand.
This
commission
is
not
in.
The
commission
is
not
in
the
business
of
approving
business
of
approving
demolition.
E
E
A
lot
of
time,
money
and
effort
to
renovate
this
building
has
to
renovate
this
building
has
simply
hit
a
dead-ends.
simply
hit
a
dead-ends..
I
think
--,
you
know,,
I
believe
I
think,
--.
You
know,,
I
believe,
of
competent,
substantial
of
competent,
substantial
evidence
in
all
of
the
elements
evidence
in
all
of
the
elements
for
this
commission
to
con
for
this
commission
to
con
consider,,
but
one
of
the
most
consider,,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
to
point
out
important
things
to
point
out
is
mr.
kemp's
report
and
he
is
mr.
E
kemp's
report
and
he
read
from
a
little
of
it
when
read
from
a
little
of
it
when
he
was
up
here.,
he
was
up
here..
This
is
an
unsafe.
Building
to
this
is
an
unsafe
building
to
the
point
where
the
the
point,
where
the
recommendation
of
the
recommendation
of
the
structural
engineer,
don't
send
structural
engineer,
don't
send
anybody
in
there
to
fix
anybody
in
there
to
fix
anything,
because
you
don't
know
anything
because
you
don't
know
what
will
happen
next..
What
will
happen
next.?
That
is
not
a
building
that
you.
E
E
E
Trying
to
rehabilitate.
they
won't
throw
that
money.
They
won't
throw
that
money
away
if
they
can
rehabilitate
away
if
they
can
rehabilitate
for
anything
economically
for
anything,
economically
feasible.
feasible.,
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense.
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense..
The
last
thing
I
want
to
point
the
last
thing
I
want
to
point
out,
as
I
am
watching
shaun.
E
E
E
E
Start
to
pull
back
walling
and
such
and
dig
into
the
guts
of
such
and
dig
into
the
guts
of
the
building,,
which
they
have
the
building,
which
they
have
done
and
found
to
be
unsafe,
so
done
and
found
to
be
unsafe.
So
with
that,
I
will
conclude
and
with
that,
I
will
conclude,
and
any
of
us
are
happy
to
step
up.
D
And
answer
questions
when
that
time
comes
around.
time
comes
around.,
zachary
greco:.
Thank
you,
zachary
greco:.
Thank
you
very
much.,
very
much..
At
this
point,
staff
will,
at
this
point,
staff
will
present
the
staff
report.
present
the
staff
report.
ron,
vila:
good
afternoon,
ron,
vila:
good
afternoon,
ron,
vila,
staff
of
historic.
D
D
D
D
D
A
A
That
concludes
my
portion.
thank
you..
Thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point,.
We
will
open
the
at
this
point,.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
comment..
Anyone
would
like
to
speak.
Anyone
would
like
to
speak
either
for
or
against?.
A
A
D
A
A
Thank
you.
before
we
--,
I
guess
the
before
we
--,
I
guess
the
commissioners
ask
questions,
commissioners,
ask
questions,
staff
did
suggest
going
over
staff
did
suggest
going
over
those
ten
additional
items
on
those
ten
additional
items
on
the
staff
report.
the
staff
report.
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to.
A
G
G
Working
on
that
$16,900.
all-inclusive
to
demolish
the
all-inclusive
to
demolish
the
building.
building.
that
answers
that
question.,
that
answers
that
question.
b
and
d,
I
think
we
addressed,
b
and
d.
I
think
we
addressed
pretty
handily.,
pretty
handily.
estimated
market
value
of
the
estimated
market
value
of
the
property.
G
G
G
On
june
30,
2017.
for
f,
income
producing
--
it
for
f,
income
producing
--,
it
is
not
income
producing
and
is
not
income
producing
and
haven't
been
for
many
years
and
haven't
been
for
many
years
and
in
fact
the
records
go
back
to.
In
fact,
the
records
go
back
to
show
this
has
been
vacant
for
show.
This
has
been
vacant
for
15
years,
well
before
our
owner,
15
years,
well,
before
our
owner
ever
purchased,
it.
G
ever
purchased
it..
In
fact
the
previous
owner.
In
fact
the
previous
owner
purchased
it
as
a
vacant,
purchased
it
as
a
vacant
building
and
as
far
as
we
can
building
and
as
far
as
we
can
go
back
15
years
ago,
it
has
go
back
15
years
ago.
It
has
been
vacant
during
that
time
been
vacant.
During
that
time,
frame.
frame.
the
remaining
balance
on
the
the
remaining
balance
on
the
mortgage,
item.
G,,
the
loan
mortgage,
item
g,,
the
loan
balance
is
$357,000..
G
G
G
G
G
over
the
past
two
years.,
the
owner,
purchased
in
2017.,
the
owner
purchased
in
2017.
and
throughout
that
time
is
and
throughout
that
time
is
mostly
attempting.
The
mostly
attempting
the
rehabilitation
of
it.
rehabilitation
of
it.
the
assessed
value
of
the
the
assessed
value
of
the
property,,
the
property
records,
property,,
the
property
records
--,
the
property
appraiser
web
--,
the
property
appraiser
web
site,
demonstrate
assessed
value
site,
demonstrate
assessed,
value
is
$447,000.
G
G
G
The
form
of
ownership
is
fee
simple
by
pineywoods
florida,
simple
by
pineywoods
florida
vii,
llc.
vii,
llc.
and
any
other
information
to
and
any
other
information
to,
assist
and
list
as
an
example,
assist
and
list.
As
an
example,
pro
forma,
financial
analysis,,
pro
forma,
financial
analysis,.
We
have
that
on
tab,
5.
G
G
G
A
C
C
C
Or
demolition
was
done
to
the
property.
property.,
what
instigate
the
removal
of
what
instigate
the
removal
of
all
the
finishes,,
because
all
all
the
finishes,,
because
all
the
photographs
that
we
have
the
photographs
that
we
have
seen
regarding
the
damage,,
the
seen
regarding
the
damage,,
the
structural
--,
it
--
it
structural
--,
it
--.
It
certainly
looks
like
most,.
If
certainly
looks
like
most,,
if
not
all
of
the
interior,
not
all
of
the
interior
finishes
were
removed,
including.
C
Finishes
were
removed,
including
the
flooring,
ceiling
and
wa
the
flooring,
ceiling
and
wa
wawms,,
and
then
a
tremendous
wawms,
and
then
a
tremendous
amount
of
the
exterior
that
has
amount
of
the
exterior
that
has
been
opened
up
as
well
since
been
opened
up
as
well.
Since
the
ownered,
the
property.,
the
ownered,
the
property..
What
instigate
the
removal
of.
G
F
G
G
G
G
G
G
C
A
A
F
F
F
F
know,
for
other
purposes.
and
the
--
some
of
the
bricks
and
the
--.
Some
of
the
bricks
can
be
reused
from
the
f,
can
be
reused
from
the
f
fireplace.
fireplace.
other
than
that,.
There
is
not
other
than
that,.
There
is
not
much
left.
much
left..
One
of
the
things
that
had
one
of
the
things
that
had
happened
in
the
past
is
there
happened
in
the
past.
Is
there
were
several
remodels
in
the
were
several
remodels
in
the
building.
building.?
F
demolition.
and
the
--,
the
--
one
thing
and
the
--
the
--
one
thing
that
is
kind
of
interesting.
That
is
kind
of
interesting
that
is
still
there,.
There
is
a
that
is
still
there,.
There
is
a
fireplace
mantle
that
is
still
fireplace
mantle.
That
is
still
there
in
the
little
curve,,
but
there
in
the
little
curve,,
but
even
the
mantle
is
a
modern.
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You
know,,
they
are
up
against.,
peel
the
onion
and
see
all
peel
the
onion
and
see
all
that.
that..
I
really
don't
have
any.
I
really
don't
have
any
concerns.
concerns..
I
wish
there
was
more
that
they
I
wish
there
was
more
that
they
could
bring
forward
either
into
could
bring
forward
either
into
the
new
building
or
into
other.
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Appraisal,
imagery
that
we
have
in
the
document
presented
to
in
the
document
presented
to
us.
us.,
stephen
sutton:,
I
think
you
stephen
sutton:,
I
think
you
are
absolutely
correct.-
are
absolutely
correct.
in
many
respects,.
I
think
this
in
many
respects,.
I
think
this
property
exhibits
a
fairly
property
exhibits,
a
fairly
classic
example
of
--,
of
a
classic
example
of
--
of
a
rapid
deterioration
through
--
rapid
deterioration
through
--,
not
necessarily
neglect,,
but
by.
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Not
necessarily
neglect,,
but
by
virtue
of
being
vacant
and
virtue
of
being
vacant
and
underused
for
well
over
a
underused
for
well
over
a
decade,
and
lord
knows
how
many
decade
and
lord
knows
how
many
different
generations
of
different
generations
of
renovations
it
has
had
before
renovations
it
has
had
before
that.
that..
What
is
left
of
the
fabric
is,
what
is
left
of
the
fabric
is
what
we
see
in
the
--
in
the
what
we
see
in
the
--
in
the
photographs.
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Rm-24.
there
is
request,
as
an
of
there
is
request,
as
an
of
approximately
1300
square
feet,
approximately
1300
square
feet,
with
an
accessory
struck
with
an
accessory
struck
temperature
detached
of
243
temperature
detached
of
243
square
feet.
square
feet..
The
request
for
certificate
of
the
request
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
two
fold.
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With
an
encroachment
of
1.5
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters
and
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters,
and
for
a
new
accessory
structure
for
a
new
accessory
structure,
in
addition
to
the
primary,
in
addition
to
the
primary
structure.
structure.,
as
I
stated,,
they
have
two
as
I
stated,
they
have
two
parts
of
this
request.
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Put
ten
minutes
for
the
variance,
request.
variance
request.,
they
have
responses
on
page
5.
They
have
responses
on
page
5
that
are
associated
with
the
that
are
associated
with
the
variance.
So
you
can
follow
variance,
so
you
can
follow
along.,
along.
and
just
briefly
going
through
and
just
briefly
going
through
the
photos,
starting
with
the
the
photos,
starting
with
the
sanborn
map.
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has
a
lot
of
unique
details..
You
see
the
little
bay
that
you
see
the
little
bay
that
pops
out
here
with
a
shed
roof
pops
out
here
with
a
shed
roof
out
on
top.
out
on
top..
Looking
a
little
closer
at
this
looking
a
little
closer
at
this
area,,
you
see
how
it
has
the
area,.
You
see
how
it
has
the
detail
on
the
bay,,
how
the
detail
on
the
bay,,
how
the
lumber
comes
together.
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And
ariel
e.
peters
of
1704,
west
jetton.,
west
jetton.,
I
work
for
row,
architects,
a
I
work
for
row,
architects,
a
second
generation
architectural
second
generation
architectural
firm
here
in
tampa
serving
the
firm
here
in
tampa
serving
the
region
over
50
years.
region
over
50
years..
We
do
projects
of
all
scale,.
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We
do
projects
of
all
scale,
sizes,
typology,,
but
one
of
our
sizes,
typology,.
But
one
of
our
specializations
is
historic.
Specializations
is
historic:
preservation,
architecture.
preservation,
architecture..
We
have
done
projects
for
we
have
done
projects
for
university
of
tampa,
university
university
of
tampa,
university
of
florida,,
the
city,
really
of
florida,
the
city,,
really
projects
and
buildings
all
over
projects
and
buildings
all
over
the
state..
The
state.
really
too
many
to
count
over.
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For
drew
and
ariel.
drew
newman
has
been
tampa,
drew
newman
has
been
tampa
residence
since
1954
when
they
residence
since
1954,
when
they
moved
the
family
business
from
moved
the
family
business
from
cleveland
to
tampa
37
and
that
cleveland
to
tampa
37
and
that
family
business
--.
I
will
go
family
business
--.
I
will
go
ahead
and
show
--
if
you
can
ahead
and
show
--.
If
you
can
make
that,
the
jc
newman
cigar.
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And
we
have
been
lucky
enough
to
be
involved
with
a
rather
to
be
involved
with
a
rather
large
renovation
project,
large
renovation
project
ongoing
for
the
past
two
years,
ongoing
for
the
past
two
years
at
the
factory
both
inside
and
at
the
factory,
both
inside
and
out.
out.
and
the
work
associated
with
and
the
work
associated
with
this
project
and
this
building
this
project
and
this
building
qualifies
for
the
national
park.
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Service
tax
credit,
--,
historic
renovation,
work.
renovation,
work.,
all
of
the
work
complies
with
all
of
the
work
complies
with
the
secretary
of
interior,
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
and
I
will
just
say,
standards,
and
I
will
just
say,
if
a
chance
to
go
to
the.
If
a
chance
to
go
to
the
factory,
an
unbelievable
space.
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This
is
the
proposed
porte
coche
rushtion,
e.
coche
rushtion,
e.,
like
he
said,
aligns
with
the
like.
He
said,
aligns
with
the
front
of
the
house.
front
of
the
house.
using
detailing
that
is
using
detailing
that
is
consistent
with
the
original
consistent
with
the
original
historic
house,,
the
brick,,
the
historic
house,,
the
brick,,
the
exposed
rafter
tails,,
the
exposed
rafter
tails,,
the
brackets,,
and
ultimately,
we.
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Building
thereon,
not
those
suffer
in
property
and
other
suffer
in
property
and
other
structures
or
buildings
structures
or
buildings,
similarly
located.
similarly
located.
and
the
response
is
that
the
and
the
response
is
that
the
house
lacks
covered
access
to
house
lacks
covered
access
to
move
from
the
house
to
the
move
from
the
house
to
the
during
inclement.
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during
inclement..
We
have
a
six-month-old
child,
we
have
a
six-month-old
child
and
hope
it
have
additional
and
hope
it
have
additional
children
and
want
to
move
them
children
and
want
to
move
them
from
the
car
to
the
house.
With
from
the
car
to
the
house
with
lightning
and
rainy,
season.,
lightning
and
rainy
season..
The
practical
difficulty
does.
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justify
the
variance..
The
response,
the
lack
of
safe,
the
response,
the
lack
of
safe
means
to
move
between
the
house
means
to
move
between
the
house
and
the
car
in
bad
weather
is
a
and
the
car
in
bad
weather
is
a
pre-existing
condition.,
pre-existing
condition.
number
three,
that
it
will
not
number
three,
that
it
will
not
interfere
with
the
health,
interfere
with
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
others,
safety
and
welfare
of
others,
whose
property
will
be
affected
whose
property
will
be
affected
by
allowance
of
the
variance.
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by
allowance
of
the
variance..
That
is
true..
That
is
true..
This
will
not
affect
the
this
will
not
affect
the
neighboring
property
owners,
neighboring
property
owners,
land,
improve
the
health,
safety
land,
improve
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
our
young
family
and
welfare
of
our
young
family
and
effort
for
the
porte.
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And
the
porte
cochere
are
common
in
hyde
park
and
one
common
in
hyde
park
and
one
similar
to
the
next
door.
similar
to
the
next
door.,
and
it
uses
historic
detail
as
and
it
uses
historic
detail.
As
on
the
existing
house.
on
the
existing
house.
number
five,
will
allowing
for
number
five,
will
allowing
for
substantial
justice
being
done.
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result
in
justice,
if
granted.
number
six,
variance,
if
granted,
number
six,
variance.
If
granted,
will
allow
consistent
with
the
will,
allow
consistent
with
the
design
standards
and
compatible
design
standards
and
compatible
with
the
historic
pattern
of
with
the
historic
pattern
of
development
of
the
historic
development
of
the
historic
district.
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Because
of
porte
cochere
of
the
elements
and
consistent
with
elements
and
consistent
with
those
existing,,
the
proposal
is
those
existing,.
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
design
consistent
with
the
design,
standard
and
pattern
of
standard
and
pattern
of
development
within
hyde,
park.
development
within
hyde
park.
with
that,.
I
will
turn
it
over.
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The
staff
is
silent
on
var
variances,,
the
finding
of
fact
variances,
the
finding
of
fact
with
the
information
that
is
with
the
information
that
is
provided.
provided.
mr.
hadley,,
if
you
can
put
the
mr.
hadley,,
if
you
can
put
the
site
plan
on
the
projector
for
site
plan
on
the
projector
for
discussion,
purposes.,
discussion
purposes.
after
there
is
a
vote
on
the
after.
There
is
a
vote
on
the
variance,,
the
certificate
of.
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You
look
at
other
configuration
for
that
porte
cochere?
for
that
porte
cochere?.
I
know
you
talked
about
--
you.
I
know
you
talked
about
--.
You
showed
examples
of
it
in
the
showed
examples
of
it
in
the
front.
front.,
showing
an
example
of
it
kind,
showing
an
example
of
it
kind
of
set
back,
which
is
maybe
a
of
set
back,
which
is
maybe
a
typical
thing
to
do.
For
typical
thing
to
do
for
historic
structure
with
a
porte.
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Historic
structure
with
a
porte
cochere
that
was
added
on
la
cochere
that
was
added
on
la
later.
later..
We
did.,
we
did.,
it
was
kind
of
going
back
to
it,
was
kind
of
going
back
to
the
roof,
as
you
can
often
the
roof.
As
you
can
often
appreciate
in
working
with
appreciate
in
working
with
historic
buildings
and
historic
buildings,
and
especially
with
different
roof,
especially
with
different
roof,
layouts.
layouts.,
it
is
about
how
you
plug
into
it,
is
about
how
you
plug
into
it.
Sensitively.
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it
sensitively.
so,,
you
know,,
by
pushing
it
so,
you
know,,
by
pushing
it
back
even
a
little
bit
further,
back
even
a
little
bit
further,.
You
can
appreciate
how
that
you
can
appreciate
how
that
will
be.
A
challenge
for
fl
will
be
a
challenge
for
fl
flashing
up
against
the
flashing
up
against
the
existing
house.
existing
house..
Already
--,
you
know,,
you
can
already
--
you
know,!
You
can
see
how
this
is
done
as
sort
of
see
how
this
is
done
as
sort
of
precedent
toward
this
bump-out.
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Right
now
they
are
residents
of
new
york
city
and
they
don't
new
york
city
and
they
don't
own
a
car,,
but
I
think
they
own
a
car,,
but
I
think
they
want
to
be
reasonably
tight
but
want
to
be
reasonably
tight
but
realistic,
giving
them
realistic,
giving
them
flexibilities.
flexibilities.
safe
to
say,
the
one
next
door.
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is
configured.
to
achieve
the
purpose
that
it
to
achieve.
The
purpose
that
it
is
actually
intended
to
do
is
actually
intended
to
do,
which
is
provide
cover
of
which
is
provide
cover
of
entrance
of
the
vehicle
into
entrance
of
the
vehicle
into
the
building.,
the
building..
It
seems
kind
of
divorced
from.
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Park
area,
is
not
an
unusual
feature,,
it
is
certainly
not
feature,,
it
is
certainly
not
universal.
universal.
and
typically,
when
you
do
see,
and
typically
when
you
do
see
them,,
you
do
see
them
at
least
them,.
You
do
see
them,
at
least
on
the
original
construction
on
the
original
construction
conditions,
fully
integrated
conditions,
fully
integrated
with
its
architecture
as
well.
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The
teens
and
'20s,
when
many
of
these
things
were
being
built,,
these
things
were
being
built,.
The
necessity
of
where
you
put
the
necessity
of
where
you
put
the
accessory
is
not
as
tightly
the
accessory
is
not
as
tightly
regulated
as
the
structure
regulated
as
the
structure
itself.
itself.
these
days.
We
don't
have
that
these
days,
we
don't
have
that
much
of
a
luxury.
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Side,
porches
and
stairs
encroaching
on
what
we
would
encroaching
on
what
we
would
today
consider
our
side
set
today.
Consider
our
side
set
setbacks.
setbacks.,
so
that,
for
me,,
isn't
a
great,
so
that,
for
me,
isn't
a
great
concern.
concern.,
but
the
issue
that
--
the
but
the
issue
that
--
the
hardship
mainly
is
that
it
is
hardship
mainly,
is
that
it
is
about
providing
covered
access.
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F
would
be
discussed
with
staff..
There
is
a
timeline
they
are.
There
is
a
timeline.
They
are
prohibited,
bringing
forth
a
prohibited,
bringing
forth
a
variance
request
unless
staff
variance
request,
unless
staff
determines
it
is
significantly
determines
it
is
significantly
different
than
what
was
different
than
what
was
previously
submitted..
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Hardship
criteria
27-d
of
code
of
ordinances,
specifically
that
of
ordinances,
specifically,
that
the
alleged
hardships
for
the
alleged
hardships
for
practical
are
unique
and
practical
are
unique
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
singular
with
respect
to
the
property
or
with
respect
to
a
property
or
with
respect
to
a
structure
or
building
thereon
structure
or
building
thereon,
and
not
those.
In
common
with.
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And
not
those
in
common
with
property
and
structures,
property
and
structures;
similarly
located..
Similarly
located.
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
madam
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
madam
commissioner,
if
I
may,
camaria,
commissioner,
if
I
may,
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city
pettis-mackle
from
the
city,
attorney's
office.,
attorney's
office.,
I
think
you
need
to
provide.
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Generally
disappointed
that
the
--
many
of
the
houses
have
been
--,
many
of
the
houses
have
been
altered
in
significant
ways.
altered
in
significant
ways.,
this
house
--.
What
is
on
this
house
--?
What
is
on
the-outs
sued
and
inside,
have
the-outs
sued
and
inside
have
wonderful,
beautiful,
detailing
wonderful,
beautiful
detailing
that
is
still
intact.
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But
we
will
replace
those.
the
existing
brick
piers,
the
existing
brick
piers,
supporting
the
porch
and
really
supporting
the
porch
and
really
nice,
brick
detail.
nice,
brick
detail..
The
siding
is
really
pretty.
The
siding
is
really
pretty
stunning.
stunning..
This
is
a
45-degree
angle,
and
this
is
a
45-degree
angle
and
kind
of
have
that
overlapped
kind
of
have
that
overlapped,
detail,
there.
J
And
the
eave
brackets
as
well.
and
the
--,
the
tapered
skirt
and
the
--,
the
tapered
skirt
for
the
siding,
and
this
is
for
the
siding-
and
this
is
where
you
can
see
what
ron
was
where
you
can
see
what
ron
was
pointing
out,
which
is
the
pointing
out
which
is
the
alternating
lapping,
that
is
alternating
lapping,
that
is
happening.
happening..
So,
coming
back
to
the
site,
p.
J
J
J
I
will
get
into
more
detail
later
on,,
but
we
are
proposing
later
on,,
but
we
are
proposing
a
one-story
extended
family,
a
one-story
extended
family
residence
also
in
the
property
residence
also
in
the
property
in
the
back
yard.
in
the
back
yard..
Looking
at
the
existing
looking
at
the
existing
floorplan
right
here,,
I
would.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
We
are
expanding
into
the
back
yard
and
this
is
the
second
yard,
and
this
is
the
second
floor
addition.
I
spoke
about
floor
addition.
I
spoke
about
earlier.
earlier..
The
concept
behind
the
second,
the
concept
behind
the
second
floor
addition
is
to
--
is
to
floor.
Addition
is
to
--
is
to
really
play
off
the
idea
of
the
really
play
off
the
idea
of
the
sleeping
loft
so
done.
Craf.
J
Sleeping
loft
so
done
craf
craftsman-style
houses,
craftsman-style
houses
throughout
the
neighborhood.
throughout
the
neighborhood..
As
you
are
aware,,
they
are
very.
As
you
are
aware,,
they
are
very
common.
common..
The
concept
is
you
have
--
a
the
concept?
Is
you
have
--
a
precedent
image
off
this?
A
p
precedent
image
off
this?
A
p
pop-up
on
the
second
floor,
that
pop-up
on
the
second
floor
that
allow
for
cross
breezes
to
make
allow
for
cross
breezes
to
make
sleeping
more
comfortable.,
sleeping,
more
comfortable.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
And
you
see
the
second-floor
addition.
addition.,
the
gray
is
existing
and
the
the
gray
is
existing
and
the
kind
of
mustard
color
--
that
kind
of
mustard
color
--.
That
is
the
existing
color
of
the
is
the
existing
color
of
the
house,
and
that
is
to
set
it
off
house
and
that
is
to
set
it
off
from
the
existing
and
you
see
from
the
existing,
and
you
see
how
we
kept
it
as
concise
as
we.
J
So
on
the
first
floor,
you
have
so
on
the
first
floor,,
you
have
single
slope,
coming
back,
kind,
single
slope,
coming
back,
kind
of
breaking
up
these
masses
to
of
breaking
up
these
masses,
to
kind
of
break
down
the
massing
kind
of
break
down
the
massing
of
the
addition.
Beyond
the
of
the
addition,
beyond
the
primary
bedroom
single
slope,
up.
J
J
J
J
J
But
I
am
going
to
keep
going.
and
this
is
the
view
from
the,
and
this
is
the
view
from
the
back
yard.
back
yard.
and
as
you
can
see,,
they
are
and
as
you
can
see,,
they
are
interested
in
installing
solar
interested
in
installing
solar
panels
on
the
south
--
the
panels
on
the
south
--
the
south-facing
roof,,
but
that
is
south-facing
roof,,
but
that
is
not
visible
at
all.
From
jetton.
J
J
We
will
be
watching
the
roof.
Slope.
slope.
asphalt,
shingles,
exposed
asphalt,
shingles,
exposed
tongue
and
groove
wood,
soffit,
tongue
and
groove
wood
soffit,
exposed
rafter
tails
matching
exposed.
Rafter
tails
matching
the
existing
depth
on
the
the
existing
depth
on
the
building.
building.
cedar.
Wood,
siding
matching
that
cedar
wood,
siding
matching
that
profile
of
the
width
of
the
profile
of
the
width
of
the
existing
siding.,
existing
siding.,
double
hung
or
single-hung
double
hung
or
single-hung
windows,.
The
one
over
one.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Garage
opening.-
and
that
is
our
proposed,
and
that
is
our
proposed.
Extended
family
residence.
extended
family
residence..
So
this
is
the
view
you
would
so.
This
is
the
view
you
would
see
as
you
look
down
the
see
as
you
look
down
the
driveway.
driveway.,
but
in
fact
the
opening
to
the,
but
in
fact
the
opening
to
the
unit
would
be
on
the
west
side
unit
would
be
on
the
west
side
facing
the
yard,,
but
using
all
facing
the
yard,.
J
J
J
J
J
Simple,,
pretty
classic
har
hardware,
streamlined.
hardware,
streamlined.
again
in
keeping,
but
not
again
in
keeping
but
not
compete.,
compete.
wood,
clad
windows
with
the
same
wood,
clad
windows,
with
the
same
configuration
that
you
will
see
configuration
that
you
will
see
on
the
existing.
on
the
existing.
and
if
exterior
lights
are.
D
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point,
staff
will
at
this
point,
staff
will
present
the
staff
report.
present
the
staff
report.
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
historic
preservation.,
historic
preservation.
staff
finds
it
consistent
with.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
A
B
J
Commissioner,,
would
you
like
to
begin?
begin?
shawna
boyd:?
Will
you
shawna
boyd:?
Will
you
address
the
west
elevation
that
address
the
west
elevation
that
ron
spoke?
About?
ron
spoke
about?,
yes,
ron
--,
we
did
talk,
yes,
ron,
--.
We
did
talk
about
that.
about
that.,
I
wasn't
ignoring
ron.,
I
wasn't
ignoring
ron..
I
really
wanted
to
get
in
front.
J
J
J
J
And
because
it
is
the
s
stare.,
you
shouldn't
have
any
rare,
you
shouldn't
have
any
rare,
issue.
issue..
If
you
go
to
the
rare
elevation,
if
you
go
to
the
rare
elevation
there,,
that
form
then
gets
there,.
That
form
then
gets
mirrored
for
it
here
in
this
mirrored
for
it
here
in
this
roof
and
the
whole
roof
drops.
C
J
J
J
J
A
A
And
mislead
you.
zachary
greco:,
some
of
the
zachary
greco:,
some
of
the
collectors
in
the
solars
--
collectors
in
the
solars
--.
There
are
not
a
lot
of
solar.
There
are
not
a
lot
of
solar
panels
on
this.
panels
on
this..
Some
of
that
equipment
can
be
some
of
that.
Equipment
can
be
relatively
large.
A
A
J
J
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
are
different
sizes?
and
then
you
take
into
account,
and
then
you
take
into
account
a
smaller
--
that
smaller,
a
smaller
--
that
smaller
window
and
as
you
go
around,
it
window
and
as
you
go
around,
it
seems
like
the
window.
Sizes
are
seems
like
the
window
sizes
are
all
varying
and
some
match
the
all
varying
and
some
match
the
existing
and
some
don't.
J
J
J
I
I
J
J
C
A
A
A
On
the
first
bay
window,,
that
window
does
seem
larger
and
I
window
does
seem
larger
and
I
don't
think
it
is
perspective.
Don't
think
it
is
perspective,
and
I
know
it
is
coming
out,
and
I
know
it
is
coming
out,,
but
that
first
window
on
the,
but
that
first
window
on
the
left
for
the
bay
area
does
look.
A
C
A
A
C
A
J
A
J
A
A
A
C
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
J
J
J
J
I
I
I
C
C
Thank
you
very
much.,
susan
klaussmith:.
I
would
susan
klaussmith:.
I
would
like
to
turn
the
attention
to
like
to
turn
the
attention
to
the
accessory
structure.,
the
accessory
structure..
If
we
canlook
at
the
if
we
canlook
at
the
elevations
you
presented
and
if
elevations
you
presented
and
if
you
can
please
label
them
so.
G
C
J
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
C
clause,
smith.
klaus
dmraus
addition
to
the
klaus
dmraus
addition
to
the
site,
plan,
is
the
alley
active
site.
Plan,
is
the
alley
active
behind
the
property,,
the
main
behind
the
property,,
the
main
structure.
structure.
yes.
yes.
susan
klaussmith:?
Can
you
susan
klaussmith:?
Can
you
pull
the
site
plan
up?
C
A
A
A
J
J
J
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
That
is
just
a
point..
I
think
alluding
to
one
of
your,
I
think,
alluding
to
one
of
your
closing
comments,.
I
am
wonder,
closing
comments,.
I
am
wonder
going
this
schematic
proposal
going
this
schematic
proposal
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
is
that
we
have
in
front
of
us,
is
entirely
ready
for
primetime.
I
I
I
I
I
C
C
C
presented
to
the
public.,
even
though
there
may
be
a
gate,
even
though
there
may
be
a
gate
there
now
or
one
proposed
in
there
now
or
one
proposed
in
the
future.,
the
future.
gates
get
opened.
gates
get
opened..
Sometimes
they
get
removed.,
sometimes
they
get
removed.
and
that
structure
will
be
and
that
structure
will
be
longer
than
the
fence
or
the
longer
than
the
fence
or
the
gate.
More
than
likely.
C
Gate
more
than
likely.,
so
look
at
historic
precedent,
so
look
at
historic
precedent
and
what
other
things
have
been
and
what
other
things
have
been
allowed
in
the
district.
allowed
in
the
district..
For
me,
the
stair
tower,
and
how
for
me
the
stair
tower
and
how
that
resides
on
the
elevation
that
resides
on
the
elevation
is
a
huge
concern.
Right
now.
C
I
So
there
was
something
else
I
was
going
to.
Say.
was
going
to
say.,
but
I
concur
with
all
the,
but
I
concur
with
all
the
points
you
brought
up,
points
you
brought
up,,
commissioner
sutton.,
commissioner
sutton.
stephen
sutton:.
I
am
stephen
sutton:.
I
am
thinking
for
the
benefit
of
thinking
for
the
benefit
of
this
project,
that
if
it
works
this
project,
that
if
it
works
well
time
schedule-wise
as
far.
B
B
B
B
B
A
A
A
A
Better,
I
think,
can
be
handled
for
the
direction
off
this
so
for
the
direction
off
this
so
far,
works.
far
works..
I
think
that
the
window
sizing.,
I
think
that
the
window
sizing..
I
think
that
is
probably
maybe
I
think
that
is
probably
maybe
an
exercise
of,.
You
know,
going
an
exercise
of,
you
know,
going
out
there
and
measuring
and
out
there
and
measuring
and
figuring
out
where
things
are
figuring
out
where
things
are
and
making
sure
it
reflects.
A
A
A
A
The
brackets,,
I
think
that
would
be
there.,
would
be
there..
One
thing
that
I
am
a
little
one
thing
that
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
is
a
lot
of
the
concerned
about
is
a
lot
of
the
drawings
and
the
presentations
drawings,
and
the
presentations
that
you
presented
today
is
that
you
presented
today
is
more
of
a
three-dimensional.
A
Helps
a
lot
for
us
kind
of
seeing
the
massing
of
the
seeing
the
massing
of
the
building.
building.,
but
there
aren't
the
typical,
but
there
aren't
the
typical
line
drawings
that
we
will
see.
line
drawings
that
we
will
see.
and
it
is
one
of
the
points
on,
and
it
is
one
of
the
points
on
the
condition
from
staff.
A
the
condition
from
staff..
And
I
think
some
of
that
could-
and
I
think
some
of
that
could
help
us
see
some
of
the
help
us
see.
Some
of
the
relationship
between
the
front
relationship
between
the
front
eevation,
with
the
primary
eevation
with
the
primary
structure
and
the
accessory
structure
and
the
accessory
structure.
structure..
Some
of
the
different
some
of
the
different
elevations
kind
of
vo,
where
a
elevations
kind
of
vo,
where
a
nice
clean,
line.,
nice,
clean
line..
What
is
new
and
what
is
kind
of
what
is
new
and
what
is
kind
of
existing..
A
That
is
not
purely
three
dimensionals.
dimensionals..
If
you
look
at
the
three,
if
you
look
at
the
three
dimensionals,,
it
is
not
dimensionals,,
it
is
not
perfectly
straight
which
never
perfectly
straight,
which
never
truly
are.
truly
are.,
but
I
can
see
both
directions,
but
I
can
see
both
directions.
Kind
of
each
side
of
it.
C
C
C
C
C
C
need
to
be
so
heavy.
because
for
me
I
feel
like
it
because
for
me
I
feel
like
it
is
a
very
heavy
space
for
a
is
a
very
heavy
space
for
a
very
small
space
that
you
are
very
small
space
that
you
are
affording
the
owner
to
sit
in,
affording
the
owner
to
sit
in
their
back
yard
in
the
covered,
their
back
yard
in
the
covered,
porch
location.,
porch,
location.
that
column
just
taking
so
much
that
column,
just
taking
so
much
space
from
them.
space
from
them.
and
the
idea
of
an
opaque
wall,.
C
And
the
idea
of
an
opaque,
wall,
knee
wall,,
you
know,,
I
can
knee
wall,,
you
know,.
I
can
think
of
many
properties
where
think
of
many
properties
where
that
--,
that
is
much
more
airy,
that
--,
that
is
much
more
airy
and
light.
and
light.,
and
you
have
a
really
nice
sort,
and
you
have
a
really
nice
sort
of
trellis
condition
that
it
of
trellis
condition
that
it
looks
like
you
are
trying
to
looks
like
you
are
trying
to
give
them.
I
Give
them.
so
just
some
thoughts
of
so
just
some
thoughts
of
offering
them
something
more
in
offering
them
something
more
in
their
back
yard.,
their
back
yard.
stephen
sutton:,
you
know,
stephen
sutton:,
you
know,.
Whenever
I
see
a
back
porch
whenever
I
see
a
back
porch
like
that,,
I
keep
thinking
like
that,.
I
keep
thinking,
really,,
really
old-school,
really,,
really
old-school
kitchen
porches.
I
A
B
B
Following
conditions.
that
zoning
approves
the
that
zoning
approves
the
accessory
structure
for
special
accessory
structure
for
special
use,.
The
solar
collectors
and
use,.
The
solar
collectors
and
required
equipment
are
approved.
Required
equipment
are
approved
by
staff.
by
staff..
The
electrical
panels,
solar,
the
electrical
panels,,
solar
equipment
and
air
conditioning
equipment
and
air
conditioning
equipment
are
screened
from
equipment
are
screened
from
street
view.
B
Existing
structure
and
roof
line
is
to
maintain.
The
gable
line
is
to
maintain
the
gable
at
the
public
hearing
and
the
at
the
public
hearing
and
the
opportunity
to
revisit
the
opportunity
to
revisit
the
black
porch.
black
porch.,
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
find
fact,
the
proposed
find
something
consistent
to
the
something
consistent
to
the
hyde
park.
Guidelines
for
the
hyde
park,
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons:,
the
skaiming,.