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G
Good
evening,
commissioners,
am
I
am
I
audible?
Yes,
okay.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
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Time
we'll
have
beverly
joseph
swear
in
all
parties
and
chambers
who
are
speaking
over
here.
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Okay,
and
with
that,
we're
ready
to
move
on
with
the
items
to
be
reviewed
this
evening.
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We
have
up
on
the
screen
the
location
map
showing
the
tampa
heights
historic
district,
the.
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Of
the
property
site
and
then
there's
a
parking
lot
along
the
the
west
side
of
the
building.
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So
this
is
looking
southwest
at
at
the.
G
And
this
is
the
excuse
me,
the
west
side
of
the
building
here.
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The
owner
is
here
tonight
to
address
any
comments
or
concerns
you
might
have,
but
I'm.
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Non-Contributing
or
non-historic
overhead
garage
door-
and
this
is
what
we
turned
it
into.
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Commissioners
for
the
staff
report,
the
staff
found
that
this
project
was
consistent
with.
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The
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and
the
design
guidelines.
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For
the
tampa
heights,
local
historic
district,
the
secretary
of
the
interior,
has
four
codified.
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G
And
I'd
also
like
to
note,
just
previously,
the
board
did
review
part
one
of
this
application
and.
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Required
for
this
project
to
be
functional
and
it's
its
new
use
as
an
apartment,
building.
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D
Have
one
question
regarding
the
the
signage
on
the
front
elevation
in
the
drawings
that
indicated.
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D
The
first
part
about
the
signage
as
a
component
of
the
project,
sure
all
right,
I'm
michael
mensberg.
I
I
I
At
the
top
as
well,
but
we
just
thought
that
ended
up
being
more
functional
for
a
pedestrian
use.
C
I
don't
have
any
questions
as
well.
The
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
C
B
E
The
signage
they
had
in
part
a
character
that
harkened
back
to
the
original
bottling
plant.
C
You
know
deal
breaker
by
any
means,
but
I
do
think
it
is
a
a
nice
kind
of
look
back
to
what
it
was.
C
Give
this
building
a
little
bit
of
character,
but
personally,
I
don't
see
it
being
a
big
concern.
G
Looking
at
the
1920s
sanborn
map
of
the
septic
property,
it's
located
in
idle
wild,
which
you.
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Can
see
that
the
sanborn
indicates
it
was
once
known
as
a
grove
street
there,
but
it's
on
idle.
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G
Again
on
idlewild-
and
you
can
see
the
tree
covers
along
the
property
there.
This
is
looking
at
the.
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Some
of
the
details
on
the
existing
structure,
the
the
grouped
windows,
the
pretty.
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G
You'll
also
see
the
exposed
rafter
tails
and
the
the
siding
profile
pretty
well
in
this
bedroom.
G
Looking
at
some
of
the
the
roof
details
here,
you
can
see
the
bead
board
soffit
the.
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The
bracket
holding
up
the
barge
rafter
and
again,
you
can
notice
the
the
profile
of
the.
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J
A
small
side
porch
and
then
and
then
they
wanted
to
convert
one
of
the
bedrooms.
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J
What
we're
proposing
is
just
to
do
sand
set
brick
pavers
in
this
area
right
here,
so
so,
they'll.
J
Either
park
here
and
go
in
or
park
here,
go
in
through
a
gate
here
and
then
into
the
porch
on.
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J
A
closet
you
can
begin
to
see
the
roof
form
for
the
building.
It
is
it's
a
front-facing
gable.
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J
The
sort
of
the
existing
right
now
so
this
is
currently
their
bedroom,
so
they're
gonna,
redo.
J
J
Here
and
it
will
be
inset
on
each
side
and
it
will
come
out.
I
think
it's
actually
eight
feet.
J
No
ten
feet,
I'm
sorry
and
then
and
then
the
proposed
plane.
J
Finished
boards-
because
this
was
a
little
too
long
and
horizontal
and
it
sort
of
worked
with
the.
J
Rhythm
of
the
columns
and
and
the
piers
initially
with
the
addition
we
were
thinking
about.
J
To
save
costs,
doing
some
sort
of
wood,
lattice
foundation
screen
enclosure,
which
is
very.
J
J
J
In
the
wall
section,
basically
we're
going
to
have
two
by
six
rafter
tails,
with
bead
board.
J
On
the
underside
and
two
by
four
frame
construction
and
then
suspended
wood
floor.
J
And
then
because
this
house
is
so
high,
we're
actually
having
the
jewelry,
I'm
sorry,
could
you.
J
Okay,
well,
it's
kind
of
nice
having
the
detail
here.
Yes,
I
just
have
to
remember
to
move
it.
J
And
then
you
have
the
finished
siding
and
then
you
have
the
the
finish
board.
That.
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J
J
They
either
park
out
here
see
they
have
no
driveway
right
now.
Actually,
there's
a.
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J
That
before
in
summer
heights,
but
it's
typical
on
all
the
gable
ends
and
we'll.
J
Be
replicating
that
and
then
this
is
a
picture
of
the
rear,
so.
J
This
is
where
we're
gonna
take
this
one
window
right
here
and
then
and
then
turn
it
into.
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J
Show
you
the
front
elevation
this.
I
took
a
kind
of
a
close-up
on
the
front
elevation
elaine.
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Which
is
basically
a
one
by
six,
that's
cut
so
that
has
two
smaller
lap
siding
so
we'll
be.
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J
These
are
timberline,
hd
slate
is
the
actually
it's
timberline
hd,
but
slate
is
the
color,
but.
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C
See
none.
The
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions
regarding
the
project.
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E
E
Edition
you
know,
I
understand
it's
utilitarian
nature,
that
with
a
gable
faces
it
has.
E
J
Okay,
yeah,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
the
way
I
would
respond
to.
That
is
the.
J
Or
contributing
structure
like
this,
if
say,
we're,
adding
conditioned
space
and
things
like.
J
That,
generally,
we
want
to
try
and
keep
the
you
know,
align
the
roof,
and
things
like
that.
We.
J
But
I
felt
if
we
did
a
hip
or
a
shed
or
something
like
that,
that
it
would
be
sort
of
a
foreign.
J
J
J
Is
on
on
the
back
of
the
house,
and
it
just
seemed
like
the
gable
form,
was
the
most
appropriate.
J
It's
a
very
simple
stair
and
railing.
J
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Quarter
treads
and
then
and
then
we
continue
that
detail
back.
So
it's
so
it's
enclosed
on
the.
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J
Which
is
just
kind
of
a
generic
but
very
simple,
wood,
railing
and
and
I'd
certainly
understand
if.
D
Can
we
go
back
to
the
site?
Listen,
can
you
zoom
it
back
out
yep.
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D
You
had
mentioned
several
times.
There
was
precedent
for
the
moves
that
you
were
making.
J
A
Just
one
question:
did
you
have
any
detailing
for
the
screen
material
that
you're
gonna
use.
J
Of
the
screen,
no,
I
don't.
J
J
Expensive
and
not
feasible
for
for
most
people
and
so
fabric
screens,
especially
the
darker.
J
C
Applicant,
can
I
let
me
grab
my
folder
because
I
had
shown
my
client.
J
Some
of
those
samples-
and
I'm
thinking
I
might
have
one
in
my
folder-
the
hip
roof.
J
I
might
have
left
them
the
pictures
with
them,
but
I
thought
I
would
at
least
check.
J
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C
A
rebuttal,
I
guess
the
only
thing
I'd
just
like
to
sort
of
reinforce,
is
the
is
the
form.
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E
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B
Building
it
could
be
easily
done.
I
don't
object
to
any
of
the
they're
all
different.
C
C
Sort
of
issue
that
just
seems
a
little
odd
is
the
exterior
wall
finish
in
the
trims
of
how
the.
C
Kind
of
language
either
from
the
the
railings
or
the
the
siding,
that's
under
it,
and
it's
not.
C
Broken
down
at
all,
otherwise,
for
me
it's
you
know.
I
don't
have
really
a
big
issue
with.
C
How
the
the
roof
lines
are
for
the
rear
or
for
the
porch?
Are
there
any
additional.
D
B
The
orientation
massing,
trim
and
details
are
consistent
with
the
guideline.
A
Chair
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
case,
if
we
could
do
the
swearing.
L
Before
the
applicant
moves
forward,
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself
I'm
ron.
L
The
site
that
is
new
construction,
it's
a
non-contributing
structure
and
it
dates
back
to.
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L
K
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K
In
addition,
part
of
the
project
in
order
to
maintain
the
required
drip
separation
between.
K
Roof
lines:
there's
an
existing
screen
porch
on
the
on
the
house
that
we're
going
to
cut
back.
K
Roof
eyebrow
and
you
can
see
they,
it
has
brackets
underneath
them
projecting
on
the.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
With
they
actually
have
an
eased
edge
on
the
corner
board,.
K
This
is
the
typical
wall
section.
You
can
see
the
at
the
ground
level
we're
doing
a
monolithic.
K
Footing
and
slab,
but
I'm
actually
using
one
course
of
block
as
a
curve.
In
order
to
raise
the.
K
K
K
Second
level,
the
wall
height
will
be
six
foot
six,
which
is
why
we
went
to
a
lesser
pitch
on
the.
L
That
we
reviewed
on
january
15
2021.
some
of
the
conditions
that
are
reflected
on
the
staff.
L
C
Okay
at
this
point,
the
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions.
I
have
a
question
for.
C
C
It
and
pass
it
if
it
doesn't
work,
do
they
have
to
come
back
again
for
the
accessory
structure.
L
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L
K
Well,
the
the
function
is
actually
to
increase
the
available
garage
space,
so
the
existing.
K
K
And
then
in
doing
that,
then
providing
a
bonus
space
above
that
is
actual
probable
space.
K
The
you
you
saw
on
the
one
elevation
there
are
driveway
strips,
but
we're
looking
to
replace.
C
A
K
E
K
C
The
the
front
and
the
rear
elevation
so
we're
seeing
a
good
amount
of
kind
of
roof
edges.
C
K
K
K
K
The
main
house-
okay,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
maybe
just
the
graphical
representation
or.
C
K
K
K
Upper
railing
right
here
to
and
something
to
kind
of
block
the
view
of
those
three
risers.
K
A
second
landing
at
the
the
porch
level,
the
balcony
level
and
then
do
you
have
off.
Maybe
the.
K
C
K
They
were
looking
for,
so
this
is
really
kind
of
a
picture
of
what
they
were
telling
me.
They
wanted.
K
E
E
With
the
overall
appearance
of
this
accessory
structure
in
comparison
to
the
more
tailored.
E
D
D
D
Even
from
the
street
view
seems
very
awkward,
so
just
from
an
architectural
forum
standpoint,
I.
C
C
Starts
to
just
look
really
large
in
comparison
and
and
when
you
get
something.
C
C
I'm
sorry,
unfortunately,
right
now
you
can't
have
any
more
discussions.
Thank
you.
D
D
C
Is
we
can
vote
on?
You
know,
make
a
motion
for
this,
or
we
can
do
a
continuance.
C
K
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
That,
obviously,
the
vehicle
comes
down
and
enters
the
parcel.
This
is
the
open,
porch.
L
L
L
M
M
A
M
Feedback
that
we
got
was
that
it
because
of
the
way
we
set
the
the
portico
share
relative
to.
M
And
then
the
the
other
reason
we
set
it
back
was
in
order
to
from
a
constructability
standpoint.
M
M
So
the
commission
pointed
out
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
disconnect
we'll.
M
Call
it
between
the
state
of
hardship
for
the
variance
request
and
the
design
solution,
because.
M
The
the
design
solution
didn't
provide
for
100
coverage
from
the
driveway
to
the
covered
porch.
M
M
Closer
in
the
exposed
kind
of
rafter
expression,
as
well
as
the
the
underside.
M
Of
the
roof
decking,
which
is
kind
of
a
tongue
and
groove
board,
with
a
with
a
v,
a
v
groove
in
it.
M
M
Detail
with
the
exposed,
rafter
tails,
the
brick,
the
the
under
the
soffit
expression.
M
And
with
that
I'll
end,
my
presentation.
C
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
L
I
would
advise
the
board
to
focus
on
the
hardship
and
the
drawings
that
were
presented.
L
C
I
have
a
question
for
you,
so
I
understand
the
side
yard
setback
that
we
need
looks
to
be
pretty.
C
Similar
from
both
what
was
originally
presented
to
what
is
shown
today,
correct,
correct,
but.
C
Roof
edge,
that's
existing
or
was
that
kind
of
the
really
the
only
opportunity.
M
M
Form
was,
was,
I
think,
just
kind
of
a
very
clean
way
to
resolve
it.
I
think,
to
to
push
it.
M
C
Okay,
at
this
point,
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
No,
but
thank
you
for.
E
Over
time,
dwellings,
particularly
that
never
had
and
still
do
not
have
a
covered
way
from
wherever.
E
Or
trumps,
the
fact
that
this
hardship
that
we're
claiming
at
this
time
is
actually
in
some.
E
E
E
Actually
very
very,
very
quite
attractive
and
actually
has
some
sort
of
precedence.
B
As
an
attorney,
I'm
trained
to
look
at
language
and
unique
to
the
property
or
the
structure.
B
B
I
definitely
understand
the
situation
being
a
mom
with
little
ones
myself,
but
I'm
just
having.
D
So
I
too
understand
it:
having
had
those
little
ones
and
even
today
it's
a
struggle.
F
Remind
the
commissioners
to
follow
the
to
adhere
to
the
guidelines
for
the
hardship
criteria.
C
C
And
not
have
it,
as
you
know,
severe
as
it
is
so
the
initial
solution
that
came
before
us
in.
D
But
I
and
I
and
I
don't
know
this
for
sure,
but
not
having
that
plan
in
front
of
us
with
a
setback.
C
C
C
E
E
E
E
C
Sorry,
six
point:
yes,
16.25
feet
with
an
encroachment
of
1.5
feet
for
eaves
and
gutter.