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A
C
So
taking
care
of
that
agenda
item
we
could
move.
B
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
architectural
review
commission
public
hearing
for
wednesday
august
3rd
2022
at
5
30
in
the
evening
welcome
everyone.
My
name
is
steven
sutton.
I
am
a
registered
architect.
Ordinarily,
I
hold
the
architectural
historian
chair,
but,
as
we've
opened
up
this
meeting,
I
have
been
elected
as
your
acting
chairman
for
the
evening
and
we
shall
proceed
if
you
are
here
to
present
a
project.
You
will
have
a
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
that
you
be
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
through
the
microphone.
B
You
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
Your
presentation
should
be
and
its
project
should
be
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections,
including
your
presentation
staff,
will
present
their
report.
B
B
B
B
C
A
C
A
C
F
B
C
G
This
is
the
1920s
sanborn
map
of
the
this
portion
of
the
seminole
heights
historic
district
outlined
in
red.
You
can
see
the
a
couple
actually
lines
here,
which
might
be
a
little
confusing.
However,
the
block
that
is
here
in
between
talia
pharaoh
and
cherokee
avenues
is
what
is
present
day
interstate
land.
G
You
can
see
here
in
this
map.
The
subject
property
is
highlighted
in
green.
It
is
on
the
the
east
side
of
interstate
275
in
this
small
pocket.
That
is
part
of
the
seminole
heights,
historic
district,
just
the
local
district,
and
then
here
is
the
property
again
outlined
in
green
at
the
southeast
corner
of
miami
avenue
and
comanche
avenue,
just
east
of
the
interstate.
G
G
G
G
G
H
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
elizabeth
concilia,
I'm
the
co-owner
and
design
principal
of
prospect,
design
build.
This
is
my
wife,
taissa
select
the
general
contractor
and
other
co-owner
of
prospect
design
build.
We
are
also
the
homeowners
of
the
property
we're
discussing
tonight
at
5509
north
miami
avenue
taies
is
a
licensed
general
contractor
in
the
state
of
florida
and
has
lived
in
seminole
heights
for
14
years.
In
that
time,
restoring
three
historic
homes
of
her
own.
H
I
did
my
coursework
in
urban
planning
and
urban
design
at
cornell
university
and
worked
for
the
city
of
new
york
and
housing
preservation
in
2017.
We
founded
our
practice
and
have
primarily
worked
in
historic
structures
throughout
tampa.
We
are
also
both
volunteers
for
the
seminole
heights,
historic
home
tour.
H
Our
brick
bungalow
was
built
in
1924
by
a
train
conductor
and
was
owned
by
a
single
family
until
we
purchased
it
in
2017..
We
adore
this
home
and
its
history.
I
shared
these
details
to
underscore
our
personal
and
professional
commitment
to
doing
a
high
quality
renovation
that
is
in
keeping
with
the
historic
character
of
our
home.
Additionally,
as
certified
passive
house
builders,
we
will
be
retrofitting
the
home
to
be
extremely
energy
efficient
and
reach
passive
health
standards.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
material
palette
throughout
existing
upstairs
the
siding
is
actually
not
sighting.
It
is
painted
shingles
downstairs.
We
have
some
vinyl
siding
above
the
red,
scored
brick
we're
proposing
to
replace
that
with
six
inch,
smooth
cedar,
beveled
siding
that
we
would
paint
and,
of
course,
the
downstairs
brick
to
remain.
H
The
vent,
currently
the
vents,
are
sort
of
cut
into
the
aluminum
siding
or
the
vinyl
siding,
and
when
it
is
replaced
with
wood
siding,
we
would
include
painted
wood
vents
to
match
the
roof.
Pretty
standard
shingles
asphalt,
shingles
gutters.
We
have
painted
aluminum
k-style
gutters,
currently
that
we
would
like
to
replace
with
galvanized
steel
half
round
gutters
with
matching
downspout.
H
H
We
imagine
you
know
the
the
gables
will
look
something
like
what
we
see
it
here
and
the
soffits
may
be
sort
of
b
board,
size
or
larger.
H
H
Downstairs
we're
doing
select
window
replacement
for
the
windows
that
are
severely
damaged
from
water
and
termite
damage.
We
have
a
variety
of
four
over
one.
Five
over
one
and
six
over
one
wood
windows
downstairs
they'll
be
the
same
windows
as
upstairs
with
the
appropriate,
divided
lights.
H
The
window
specification
we
do
have
a
sample
here
which
we'll
show
you
we're
proposing:
sierra
pacific,
feel-safe,
push-out,
casement
windows,
they're
power,
powder-coated,
aluminum,
clad
they're,
made
in
a
traditional
style
and
again
the
divided
lights
will
be
accurate
to
what
currently
exists,
the
we
are
leaving
the
front
door,
but
the
back
door
is
a
1970s
steel
door.
With
security
bars.
We
propose
to
do
a
sierra
pacific,
all
wood
out
swing
door
and
to
stain
that
door.
H
Porch
materials
there's
a
painted,
bead
board,
it's
in
pretty
rough
shape.
We
would
like
to
replace
it
with
the
same
material,
but
to
stain
that
stain
cedar,
bead,
board
hardware
and
lighting.
We
will
leave
the
historic
replica
sconces
in
the
front,
we're
not
proposing
doing
any
other
lighting
there
and
the
back
door.
Knob
is
a
replica
that
matches
the
front
enclosure
materials
be
as
part
of
our
passivhaus
retrofit.
H
We
are
going
to
be
enclosing
the
crawl
space
to
keep
moisture
out,
and
we
will
be
closing
these
vents
with
matching
brick,
and
we
have
a
sample
here
to
show
you
just
in
those
vent
openings,
but
we
don't
have
any
type
of
trellis
or
anything
like
that.
The
brick
goes
all
the
way
to
to
the
ground.
I
Okay,
existing
mall
section,
pretty
straightforward:
we
have
two
by
eight
rafters
and
secured
ceiling
by
a
two
by
six
ceiling,
joists
and
no
insulation
in
the
walls,
no
insulation
in
the
floor,
joists
and
no
insulation
in
the
crawl
space.
I
We
are
proposing
to
raise
the
the
ceiling
to
follow
the
roof
line
there
and
filling
it
with.
I
believe
it
was
r38
is
what
was
specced.
I
We
will
also
want
to
encapsulate
the
crawl
space
with
proper
vapor
barrier
and
insulation,
and
condition
that
space
as
well
yeah
yeah.
So
the
main
focus
for
our
home
is
to
create
just
a
more
comfortable,
healthier
space
for
our
family
and
the
best
way
to
achieve
that.
We
think
is
through
passive
house
building
standards
so
yeah.
I
think
that.
A
H
This
is
the
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
find
the
matching
brick.
Of
course
we
wanted
to
wherever
we
need
to
do
repairs
and
when
we
enclose
the
crawl
space
vents.
It
of
course
needs
to
match
the
very
particular
scored
brick
dark,
brick
that
we
have.
So
that's
what
we
propose
and
then
this
window
is
incredibly
heavy.
I'm
sorry
it
is
a
clad
window
and
we
are
proposing
to
do
casement
because
they're
more
energy
efficient,
but
from
the
outside
it'll
have
divided
lights.
H
G
Commissioners,
elaine
lund
historic
preservation,
staff
that
completes
the
applicant's
presentation.
Then
the
staff
finds
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
seminal
heights
design
guidelines.
There
were
a
few
conditions
listed
in
the
staff
report.
G
The
majority
of
them
have
been
addressed.
I
am
a
little.
I
was
a
little
curious
about
the
flare
of
the
second
story
sighting
over
the
first
story.
Masonry
finish,
but
aside
from
that,
I
have
no
other
comments,
so
I'm
available.
If
you
have
questions.
Thank
you.
B
F
So
the
flare
where
you're
siding
meets
the
brick.
Can
you
explain
how
you
intend
to
do
that.
I
Expect
a
one-inch
rain
screen
and
we
have
found
a
product
that
we'll
drop
that
down
to
a
half
inch
ring
screen.
So
I
believe
with
that.
I
Yeah,
I
think,
he's
backed
a
one
inch
rain
screen
here
and
I
believe,
dropping
that
down
to
a
half
inch
rain
screen.
We
should
be
able
to
create
a
curvature
here
that
still
resembles
the
flare
right
now.
The
flare
is
about
an
inch
and
a
half,
and
so
we
would
be
one
inch
instead
of
an
inch
and
a
half
layer.
I
F
I
Well,
the
wood
to
wood
connection.
It
just
creates
a
better
area
for
drying
when
you
do
have
a
rain
screen,
that's
just
the
way
our
designer
would
like
us
to
build
it.
Creating
you
know
just
a
an
area
where
air
could
pass
through,
even
if
it
is
just
a
half
an
inch
putting
the
wood
on
wood.
While
you
know
it
might
dry,
it
just
gives
it
a
better
chance
to
dry.
If
you
do
have
that
separation.
F
So
yeah,
so
it's
that's
a
pretty
standard
thing.
You
just
put
some.
Let
you
know
laugh
every
you
know
whatever:
whatever
it
is:
yeah
30
inches
or
something,
and
then
you
just
yes
nail
the
siding
to
that.
Yes,
okay,
all.
E
I'll
continue
along
along
that
vein,
precisely
if
we're
looking
at
trying
to
maintain
that
one
and
a
half
inch,
and
I
could,
could
you
bring
up
a
photo
of
that
by
the
way
the.
E
Yeah
and
don't
lose
this
shot
here,
but
can
we
bring
up
a
photo
of
the
existing
can't
in
in,
even
though
it's
in
shingles,
which
I
understand,
isn't
isn't
ideal.
I
A
H
Oh
go
to
the
view:
okay,
yeah:
there
you
go.
H
Oh
sorry,
so
the
shingles
do
come
over
the
brick
I'm
guessing
because
there
was
no
insulation
here.
We
believe
this
was
a
sleeping
porch.
You
know
they
were
trying
to
get
the
water.
You
know
off
and
do
what
they
could.
You
know
we're
fine
doing
whatever
is
historically
appropriate
here.
It
feels
more
like
this
was
kind
of
something
they
were
trying
to
do
because
they
were
using
these
materials
using
shingles
and-
and
you
know,
overlapped
it
with
the
brick.
E
F
I
I
Yeah
so
we're
adding
like
an
inch
and
a
half
for
the
foam
about
three
quarters
for
the.
E
E
A
I
H
H
E
And
the
reason
you're,
adding
so
much
insulation
to
the
exterior
facade
is
to
you
know,
I
understand
tight
houses
and-
and
you
know,
going
beyond
what
can
be
held
within
the
the
the
wall
framing
itself
and
you
don't
want
to
add
it
to
the
inside
face
of
the
wall.
Because
of
because
that's
another
alternative.
I
E
A
E
Guess
we
want
to
see
something
yeah
and
a
half
of
an
inch
of
a
little
kink.
Isn't
half
inch
won't
read
at
all
sure,
if
that's
all
that's
left,
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
refine
that
that
that
wall
section
a
little
bit,
maybe
go
with
an
inch
board
yeah
and
a
5
8
sheeting
rather
than
a
three
quarter
sheet,
I
mean
just
little
increments,
so
that
and
staff
you
can
you
know
you
can
go
all
this
in
order
for
that
cant
to
read
somehow.
E
E
Know
you
can
work
that
out.
I
know
you
can
work
that
out.
That's
great
the
only
other
thing
I
had
a
question
of
have
you
removed
any
of
the
aluminum
covering
on
any
of
the
brackets
yet
today.
H
I
E
J
E
In
the
crawl
space,
are
you
considering
flushing
them
out
or
recessing
them
a
little
bit
so
that
the
vents
can
still
read,
read
but
yeah
and
without
yeah
it
doesn't
destroy
them.
Yeah.
F
B
B
I
have
a
plethora
of
plumbing
and
electrical
work
and
data
and
communications
and
spare
parts
in
mind,
and
it's
it's
become
very
handy
for
those
repairs.
Closing
it
off
forever
is
going
to
be
a
big
problem.
I
Right,
you
know,
with
the
with
the
brick
going
all
the
way
to
the
ground
like
that
we
hold
so
much
moisture
in
there.
No
one,
no
one
can
actually
go
in
comfortably.
We
can't
store
anything
down
there.
It's
cold,
it's
dark
that
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
do
want
to
condition
that
dehumidify
the
crawl
space
to
make
it
more
usable.
If
we
have
a
plumbing
issue,
we
can
go
down
there
without
paying
extra
for
someone
to
crawl
into
a
dark
hole.
So.
I
H
To
be,
but
also
so,
our
rats
and
other
things
right,
so
we're
trying
to
mitigate.
B
H
B
We
love
vermin.
Could
we
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
your
elevations?
I
think
it's
your
north
elevation.
I
think
it's
more
telling
for
sure.
B
What
you
have
for
your
proposal,
both
existing
and
for
your
proposed
new
work,
so.
B
So
you're
enclosing
the.
If
you
will
that
outboard
wing
of
your
of
your
porch
for
a
living
space.
F
Do
you
have
the
same
flair
all
the
way
around
the
house,
or
is
it
only
on
the
back,
because
I
can
only
see
it
on
the
back,
which
is
a
strange
thing,
but
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you'll
probably
go.
You
know
you're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
this
brick
to
frame
yeah
condition,
and
I
believe
that
the
that
the
insulation
wants
to
be
continuous
on
the
outside
of
the
studs,
so
you
have
fewer
thermal
breaks.
I
think
that's
the
deal
right.
F
The
only
thing
that
you're
losing-
and
I
am-
and
this
is
extraordinarily
common
in
tampa
right-
everybody
used
to
sleep
in
a
sleeping
porch.
Now
we
condition
that
space
you
have
and
nobody
is.
Nobody
has
been
sleep
using
your
sleeping
porches
as
sleeping
porches
for
decades,
because
you
have
these
aluminum
windows
in
there.
F
F
There,
okay,
but
there
are
these
huge
windows
right
right
and
so
you're
taking
away
all
the
windows,
which
is,
I
understand
it
completely
and
I'm
not
complaining
about
it
right,
but
it
you
know
in
my
perfect
world
it
might
be
a
nice
thing
to
keep.
Maybe
even
just
one
set-
I
don't
know,
but
that's
not.
A
F
I'm
yeah
speaking
from
a
design
from
you
know
from
a
preservationist's
point
of
view,
which
is
not
what
is
entirely
required
here,
particularly
since
the
windows
do
not
no
longer
exist
in
any
form
that
we
could
accept.
You
know
you've
got
these
aluminum
awning
windows,
so.
F
H
F
E
H
Floor
edition
yeah,
yes,
they're
flush,
they
are.
H
I
What
it
was
that
was
originally.
H
I
Open
maybe
like
a
mud
room
that
was
open
and
then
they
closed
up
all
that
brick.
E
A
E
Corner
of
the
house
was
right.
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
that.
H
E
B
Thank
you.
Rebuttal
declined
this
public
hearing
at
this
point
is
now
closed
and
we
will
be
opening
up
the
table
for
commentary.
D
E
It's
a
difficult
little
house
with
a
little.
The
geometry
of
that
house
is
a
little
bit
hard
to
to
work
with
and-
and
I
think
you
know
again,
this
is
always
our
discussion
here.
Anything
people
are
doing
to
make
the
house
better
and
save
the
house
and
preserve
the
house
and
improve
the
house.
E
You
know
is
always,
I
think,
our
task
to
encourage,
and
you
know,
and
taking
vinyl
siding
off
and
putting
wood
on
and
uncovering
brackets
I
mean
going
to
all
that
extent
is
something
I
think
we
want
to
encourage,
even
though
there
are
some
technical
aspects
of
you
wanting
to
add
exterior
wall
thickness
and
that
kind
of
thing
with
insulation,
but
I
just
think
that'll
make
the
house
last
longer
and
can
and
be
a
part
of
the
neighborhood
for
an
even
longer
period
of
time.
F
No,
I
think
that
I
think
the
project
is
is
very
well
conceived.
We
tend
to
you
know,
because
it
is
so
well
conceived.
We
can
make
these
very
minor
comments
and
and
and
and
move
on.
So
I
think
that
we're
ready
to
give
this
one
a
path.
B
To
give
you
you're
ready
to
give
approval
close
with
my
comment
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
very
much
for
a
very
sensitive
imposition
onto
this
historic
structure.
B
D
B
Well,
I
have
a
second
for
this
motion
I'll
second,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
all
those
in
favor
of
this
motion
please
state
and
raise
your
hand.
An
affirmative
eye
against
non-motion
passes
for
accepting
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
case
of
arc
22
178
for
the
property
located
at
5509
north
miami
avenue.
G
G
This
is
the
1920
sanborn
map
showing
the
location
of
the
property
in
green
you'll
notice.
It
is
on
the
south
side
of
amelia
avenue
between
morgan
and
jefferson
streets.
It
is
about
two
blocks
south
of
what
was
originally
known
as
the
michigan
avenue
grammar
school.
Now
the
tampa
heights
elementary
school.
G
G
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation.
At
this
time,
the
applicant
will
begin
the
the
presentation
for
the
variance
request
portion
of
this
case.
J
That's
good
good
evening.
My
name
is
daniel
pardomo.
I
am
co-owner
of
307
east
amelia,
along
with
my
wife,
aura
guerrero.
Unfortunately,
she
couldn't
be
here
today,
as
we
couldn't
find
assistance
and
care
for
our
four-year-old
son,
who
was
very
active
and
I'm
sure
we
wouldn't
have
had
a
great
time
here
tonight.
J
J
You
know
another
unit
to
this
to
our
home.
A
J
So
to
the
this
image
here
you
have
the
sort
of
existing
site
plan,
the
home,
it's
kind
of
original
1907
property
and
somewhat
skewed,
not
in
alignment
with
the
site,
but
we
we
haven't
done
anything
since
we
acquired
it
in
terms
of
additions
or
the
changes
to
the
footprint.
J
A
two-car
garage
from
the
rear
alley.
This
would
be
the
south
elevation
from
the
alleyway
east
and
west
elevation
and
then
the
north
elevation.
Looking
from
our
backyard.
A
Excuse
me:
miss
len
is
the
applicant
going
over
the
variance
portion
first
before
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
G
Detail
the
variance
request-
yes,
should
not
focus
so
much
on
the
details
of
the
on
this.
J
Particular
project,
so
the
I'll
cut
straight
to
the
point.
The
variance
here
is
a
request
for
rear
setback
of
you
know
you
guys
can
see,
but
is
reducing
the
setback
to
10
feet
from
20
feet
and
the
height
from
15
feet
of
the
structure.
J
To
25
feet
so
the
excess,
the
accessory
structure,
limits,
15
feet
height
maximum
and
the
height
that
we're
proposing
is
25
feet
which
would
be.
You
know,
10
feet
larger
than
that
those
are
or
two
variances.
One
is
the
setback
from
20
to
10
and
the
and
the
height
from
15
to
25.
A
Do
you
have
your
your
chip,
hardship.
J
J
Their
response
to
my
to
the
chapter
27
section
27114,
the
current
distance
between
the
existing
primary
house
and
the
proposed
accessory
structure
does
not
leave
necessary
space
for
the
allowed
structure
in
keeping
with
the
historical
precedence
and
location
of
additional
structures
on
a
lot
such
as
this
one.
We
need
a
variance
for
a
reduction
to
the
rear
setback
of
the
improved
alley.
J
G
On
this
commissioners,
elaine
lund,
historic
preservation,
staff
staff
does
not
report
on
the
findings
for
variance
requests,
as
this
is
a
finding
of
fact
for
the
board
to
complete.
B
G
This
property
commissioners
is
zoned
rm
24,
which,
according
to
the
the
memo
that
we
received
from
one
of
the
urban
planners,
who
reviews
for
zoning
issues
with
our
applications
that
the
rm24
zoning
district
allows
for
one
residential
unit
per
1815
square
feet
of
land.
As
long
as
there
is
a
minimum
of
5
000
square
feet
for
the
development
in
total,
and
this
residential
unit
is
allowed
as
the
site
is
7560
square
feet,
which
is
larger
than
the
5000
required,
and
the
there's,
obviously
more
than
1
1815
square
feet
per
unit
available
here.
G
E
Sir,
you
you've
used
the
term
in
your
presentations,
saying
that
you,
the
size
of
the
law,
does
not
allow
quote
unquote
the
necessary
space
between
the
primary
residents
and
the
secondary
residents.
What's
that
necessary
space
dimension?
E
J
Right
so
I
I
will
make
a
comment
as
to
why
I
wrote
that
and
before
or
in
the
interim
of
submitting
this
document,
we
had
also
submitted
this
to
natural
resources,
and
I
have
two
big
trees
here
on
site,
which
we
had
natural
resources,
go
out
on
site
and
authorize
the
the
removal
of
these
trees
as
the
trees
were
not
deemed
protective
trees.
Okay,
so
that's
no
longer
an
issue
anymore.
Okay,.
J
Part
of
it
is,
but
part
of
it
is
also
you
know.
This
is
a
separate
unit
and
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
keep
a
distance
between
that
unit
and
our
home
at
our.
Our
argument
was
at
first
to
keep
the
trees
that
right,
obviously
became
non-existent
after
they
allowed
to
remove
them
right.
But
you
know
at
this
point,
which
was.
E
E
E
You
can
do
that
in
one
story:
it's
a
one-story
apartment
basically,
but
you're
asking
for
it
to
be
two
stories
and
exceed
the
height
of
the
zoning
and
ask
for
variance
because
you
want
to
build
a
garage
for
multiple
cars
underneath
it.
But
that's
not
that's
not
a
hardship
either.
That's
your
choice,
correct.
E
But
right,
but
you
could
build
this
one.
You
could
build
this.
This
is
a
one-story
residence
but
you're,
putting
it
up
on
the
second
story
of
a
property
or
of
a
building
to
put
cars
and
whatnot
underneath
it
you
could
not
use
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
what
the
hardship
is
because
to
me
you
could
build
this
second
residence
this.
Second,
I
guess
it's
called
a
residence
right.
It's
a
secondary
proposed
residence.
E
D
I
don't
have
any
questions
either
unless
there
is
some
other
reason
or
fact
that
you
might
have
for
the
variants
like
the
the
trees
would
have
been
a
reason,
a
hardship.
J
J
You
know
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood
now
for
six
years,
like
my
family
has
grown.
I
have
a
four-year-old
and
got
all
kinds
of
junk
that
I
need
to
put
away
somewhere.
I'm
not
developing
this.
You
know
city
of
tampa
resident
that
is
growing
into
a
small
home.
J
D
Is
so
we
understand,
we
understand
that
we
understand
that
and
you
can
definitely
put
a
structure
there.
You
have
to
just
live
inside
the
zoning
in
those
setbacks,
because
there
is
no
hardship
on
this
property,
like
staff
mentioned
before
it's
a
very,
very
fact,
driven
decision,
it's
it's
black
and
white,
so
either
you
can
or
you
can't.
There
is
a
hardship,
there's
not.
E
I
would
also,
you
know,
suggest
that
I
have
elderly
parents,
I
design
their
house
for
them.
They
don't
live
on
the
second
story
of
a
building
where
they
have
a
long
stairway
to
go
up.
They
actually
live
on
the
ground
floor
of
a
of
a
of
a
ranch,
very
accessible,
and
that's
that's
part
of
you
know
having
elderly
people.
You
know
move
into
your
property.
Is
that
right.
D
D
B
Okay,
okay,
I
would
like
to
continue
the
questioning
please.
First,
I'd
like
to
start
with
staff.
The
other
part
of
this
variance
request
is
one
for
the
building
height.
Typically,
an
accessory
structure.
Height
is
limited
to
15
feet
that
there
is
some
accommodation
within
the
regulations
for
this
historic
district
for
for
to
permit
in
some
manner
a
a
greater
height.
Can
staff
discuss
that?
Please.
B
22.5
so,
sir,
with
the
proposal
of
a
two-story
building
that
you
have
for
us
this
evening,.
J
B
B
None
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
to
our
questioning
in
this
first
part
of
this
hearing.
With
respect
to
the
variance
this
is
requested.
B
Do
you
have
any
comment
or
or
rebuttal
to
any
of
our
questions?
B
F
If
we
make
a
motion,
I
believe
that
then
the
project
cannot
come
before
us
again.
That's
that's.
B
F
D
Okay,
good,
I
move
that
the
variants
requested
for
arc
22-255
for
the
property
located
at
307,
east
amelia
avenue
for
a
sorry
height
and
for
a
variance
for
a
height
increase
from
15
to
25
feet
in
a
rear
yard.
D
Setback
from
20
to
10,
with
an
encroachment
of
two
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters,
be
denied
due
to
the
failure
of
the
petitioner
to
meet
the
burden
of
proof
with
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria,
as
set
forth
in
section
27-114
d
at
the
city
of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,
specifically,
that
the
sorry
that
no
hardship
exists
and
the
massing
and
building
form
is
not
consistent.
With
the
district.
E
B
Second
in
hand
all
those
in
favor
for
the
denial
of
the
of
the
excuse
me
all
those
in
favor
for
the
the
denial
of
the
recommendation
for
the
variances.
D
B
B
A
C
C
C
To
give
you
some
past
history
on
this
parcel
in
february
2022.
This
did
receive
a
favorable
recommendation
from
this
governing
body
and
was
forward
to
city
council
city
council
had
two
readings.
The
first
reading
in
february
and
the
second
one
in
march
approving
the
recommendation
from
this
board
moving
forward.
C
I
just
want
to
read
from
the
design
guidelines
page
61.
This
is
your
charge
this
evening
is
that
the
design
guidelines
do
not
dictate
style,
but
they
do
set
up
criteria
under
which
new
construction
can
be
accurately
compared
to
the
setting
in
the
historic
district.
New
construction
is
encouraged
to
be
unique
and
designed,
while
reflecting
the
basic
scale
and
style
of
hyde
park.
District.
C
On
page
three,
your
staff
report
as
well
the
application
of
standards
when
the
pd
came
forward,
and
you
gave
a
favorable
recommendation
to
city
council
on
the
lower
portion
of
page
three,
the
scale,
the
massing,
the
setback,
the
orientation
and
the
rhythm
alignment
and
spacing
was
established
at
that
time.
So,
on
the
staff
report,
I
had
stated
that
there's
11
criteria
that
for
compatible
new
construction
and
that's
what
your
focus
is
tonight
from
6
through
11
as
the
presentation
moves
forward
briefly
to
go
through
the
photo
presentation.
C
C
This
is
just
showing
a
current
area.
Once
again,
property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
box.
There
still
is
no
alley,
it
wasn't
an
alley
in
29.
There
is
no
alley
currently
here.
You
see
hyde
park
avenue
here
and
then
from
above
you
see
some
trees
that
will
factor
into
tonight's
discussion.
C
This
is
looking
into
the
parcel
from
hyde
park
avenue.
This
is
the
perimeter
fence
that
is
currently
there
as
you
get
into
the
property
behind
the
fence.
There
is
a
featured
tree
that
was
sensitively
looked
at
and
the
footprint
of
the
structure
that
was
pd'd
took
this
in
consideration,
and
this
is
a
closer
shot
of
that
grand
tree,
and
then
you
see
the
massing
of
the
building
to
the
east
or
the
budding
property
line
there.
C
C
This
is
the
bunny
property
to
the
south,
a
couple
of
street
shots.
This
is
looking
down
hyde
park
avenue.
There
is
some
parallel
parking
on
that
street.
It's
a
one-way
street,
as
you
see
here,
coming
in
to
the
island,
just
continuing
from
the
parcel
looking
to
the
entrance
to
davis
island
and
to
conclude,
is
directly
across
the
street,
so
you
get
the
environment
and
feeling
for
what
the
surrounding
properties
have.
I
showed
you
what's
to
the
north,
to
the
south
and
across
the
street.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation.
At
this
time.
K
K
We
presented
this
project
to
you
earlier
this
year
for
the
pd
rezoning
of
the
project,
and
I'd
like
to
summarize
that
here,
a
little
bit
for
you
at
the
beginning.
Here
that
was
the
site
plan,
was
approved
with
some
conditions
we
were
to
minimize,
which
I
will
go
over
here
shortly.
We
were
to
minimize
the
vehicular
opening
of
the
building.
K
We
were
to
add
a
six
foot
perimeter
wall
around
the
building
because
of
the
use
to
use
buffer,
except
at
this
large
oak
tree.
That
ron
had
mentioned
towards
the
rear
of
the
building,
and
then
you
know,
we
were
to
add
a
note
to
the
site
plan
to
give
the
arc
the
ability
to
adjust
setbacks
up
to
five
feet,
for
addition
of
elements
to
create
addition
of
elements
to
create
architectural
features.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
bigger
components
of
this
was
to
preserve
tree
the
existing
trees
on
site.
K
K
Some
of
the
project
features
that
I
would
like
to
highlight
is
on-site
dedicated
parking
because
of
the
lack
of
alley
access
to
this
building.
We
were
not
able
to
find
an
easy
way
for
in
and
out
so
we
were
kind
of
constrained
on
the
site,
so
we
integrated
parking
onto
the
site
due
to
the
nature
of
the
building
program.
K
We
incorporated
secure
resident
access,
there's:
bicycle
storage:
we
incorporated
shared
interior
study
spaces
for
the
students.
The
large
tree
canopy
in
the
rear,
enabled
us
the
ability
to
create
some
shaded
lounge
areas,
and
we
decided
you
know.
The
owner
of
the
of
the
property
is
also
a
landscape
architect,
so
we
decided
to
incorporate
some
generous
landscaping
to
soften
the
building.
K
Some
of
the
materials
and
details
that
were
featured
that
are
featured
in
this
building
that
you'll
see
are
some
pervious
pavers
in
order
to
help
with
drainage
in
the
built
within
the
building,
and
then
we
use
some
brick
hardy
and
stucco
to
create
some
massing,
a
breakdown
of
the
massing
of
the
building
and
some
variation.
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
some
pictures
real
quick.
I
know
ron
showed
some
pictures
of
the
site,
but
I
wanted
to.
K
There
we
go
yeah,
so
real
quick,
just
wanted
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit.
I
know
ron
showed
some
pictures,
but
this
is
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
hyde
park
avenue
in
the
district,
but
this
is
just
showing
a
shot
a
little
bit
wider
angle
of
the
site.
The
site
is
actually
just
behind
this
large
sign
for
the
tampa
general
davis
island.
K
You
know
the
site
is
quite
obscured
from
from
vehicular
and
pedestrian
traffic
so
and
here's
a
little
bit
closer
of
a
shot
showing
you
know
this
large
tree
at
the
at
the
north
west
corner
of
the
property
that
the
intent
is
to
save
that
tree.
K
K
K
K
This
is
a
typical
four
floor
plan
second
floor
with
the
three
units
with
a
study
lounge
the
two
stairs
with
the
elevator.
K
That
is
the
same.
This
is
the
same
same
thing
for
the
for
the
third
floor
and
then
we'll
go
around
the
building
with
the
elevations
illustrate
the
elevations
here.
This
is
showing
it's
a
little
dark
on
this
screen,
but
so
the
intent
here
is
the
material
usage.
K
What
we're
doing
here
is
using
a
combination
of
stucco
hardy
board,
siding
and
brick
using
brick
to
ground
the
building,
using
a
variation
of
colors
within
the
with
scorched
stucco
and
then
using
hardy
board,
with
hardy
edge,
using
metal,
metal,
metal,
metal,
coping
and
and
details
on
the
on
the
top
and
then
we're
using
a
metal
awning
along
with
metal.
K
This
is
showing
the
tree
here
and
how
it's
affected.
This
elevation,
also
showing
the
open,
open,
exterior
corridors
with
views
out
to
the
tree
here,
showing
this
stair
tower,
or
this
is
the
elevator
tower.
Excuse
me,
and
then
this
is
the
stair
tower,
clad
and
brick,
showing
this
six
foot
perimeter
wall
and
trying
to
give
it
some
transparency
with
some
horizontal
slatting.
K
This
is
the
north
elevation.
This
would
be
hyde
park.
This
would
be
the
east
side
of
the
the
building
with
the
large
tree.
This
is
showing
the
various
material
usage
and
the
massing
and
how
we're
trying
to
break
it
up
the
long
side
of
the
building.
This
would
be
facing
the
the
blue
structure
to
the
north
of
the
building.
K
K
So
this
is
a
conceptual
rendering
of
looking
from
hyde
park
south
towards
the
building.
Saying
that
this
you
know
large
sign
would
obscure
some
of
the
building
but
showing
maintaining
the
tree.
Here
I
tried
to
get
a
view
of
the
building.
I
don't
actually
think
you
would
see
this
much
of
the
building,
because
this
tree
is
so
massive.
It
actually
blocks.
K
K
Rendering
showing
all
the
all
the
details
here
with
the
parapit,
our
our
stair
tower,
which
would
be
an
open
air
stair
with
our
our
awnings,
showing
the
previous
pavers,
we
would
use.
K
Various
landscaping
elements
to
soften
the
base
of
the
building
for
the
pedestrian
experience,
and
then
this
is
showing
a
six-foot
perimeter
wall.
K
K
K
This
is,
these
are
once
again
shots
of
two
other
projects
that
are
are
projects
that
the
owner
has
has
built.
This
is
pervious
pavers
that
he's
used
at
another
project
not
too
far
from
the
site,
and
this
is
a
shot
of
the
brick
that
would
be
used
at
the
base
at
various
points
in
the
building.
K
Here
are
a
few
examples
of
the
awnings
intended
to
be
used
at
the
stairs
and
just
some
basic
railings
that
would
be
used
to
match
things
found
within
the
district.
K
Drawings
this
this
is
a
roof
plan
showing
a
lot
of
this
was
presented
at
the
at
the
at
the
pd
hearing,
but
this
would
be
a
roof
plan
showing
showing
where
all
the
mechanical
equipment
would
be.
K
K
Down
through
the
this
is
a
section
through
the
hardy
coming
down
through
showing
the
open
web
steel
joists
coming
down
through
the
recessed
windows,
showing
this
awning
canopy
detail,
which
would
be
a
metal,
a
metal
frame
and
a
metal
clad
and
then
showing
the
brick.
With
with
the
details,
there.
K
Again,
here
is
details
through
this
to
the
stucco
same
detail
for
the
awning,
and
then
this
is
at
the
at
the
front
door
at
the
main
entry.
And
then
this
is
at
the
the
main
stair
tower.
C
Good
evening,
commissioner
ron
villa
staff
with
historic,
preservations
staff's
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design
guidelines,
I'm
paige
for
your
staff
report.
We
have
some
conditions
that
were
associated
with
this
request
through
his
presentation.
He
went
through
a
couple
of
them
part
of
this
presentation,
as,
as
I
stated,
was
established
through
the
pd
process.
He
went
through
that
he
gave
you
an
overview
of
the
pd,
the
pd
approval,
and
what
you
saw
tonight
is
consistent.
C
There
was
no
modifications
that
I
saw
to
the
plan
as
approved
moving
forward
at
the
first
level
on
the
front
facade,
we
were
asking
for
additional
transparency
from
the
primary
street
and
he
had
incorporated
some
fenestration
on
that.
There
also
is
a
pedestrian
entrance
off
that,
so
the
street
doesn't
turn
us
back.
Excuse
me,
the
structure
doesn't
turn
us
back
on
the
street.
C
C
One
of
the
one
of
the
items
that
we
were
addressing
internally
was
the
cladding
of
the
storage
underneath
the
structure
as
part
of
the
pd.
There
was
a
masonry
wall
that
was
approved
by
city
council
that
has
to
go
around
the
perimeter
of
the
of
the
site,
except
for
that
large
trees
in
the
back
they
said
that
they
could
bring
in
a
different
element
in
there
to
complement
the
tree
and
not
have
a
negative
effect
on
the
tree,
so
in
working
with
the
design
of
the
wall.
C
C
B
E
I
guess
I'll
go
some
of
these,
some
of
them,
as
I
was
going
listening
to
your
presentation,
I
was
writing
down
comments
and
then-
and
it's
become
clear-
that
several
of
the
things
I
had
commenting
on
is
already
it's
it's
water
under
the
bridge
and
something
I
can't
comment
on.
So
I
have
to
go
through
my
these
carefully
ron
brought
up
just
now
the
transparency
in
the
wall.
E
You
know,
I,
I
guess
the
question
is:
what's
the
point
of
the
wall
between
uses,
if
it's
transparent,
I,
I
guess,
there's
you
know
some.
Maybe
some
discussion
to
be
had
about
that.
E
One
of
the
things
we're
charged
with
obviously
is
the
material
palette
and
and
maintaining,
what's
known
in
in
historic
districts
and
in
the
guidelines
as
a
very
high
level
of
quality,
craftsmanship,
workmanship
and
material
quality,
and
I'm
wondering
if
obviously
there's
some
brick
in
there
and
there's
some
hardy
siding
in
there
there's
an
awful
lot
of
just
flat
stucco
with
some
scores
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
been
discussions
or
thoughts
or
the
potential
for
say
the
the
corner
tower,
the
stair
tower
or
or
other
aspects
of
of
the
the
facade
particularly
facing
the
street,
maybe
having
a
slightly
higher
quality
material
involved,
whether
it
be
a
you
know,
a
rain
screen
ceramic
panel
or
a
zinc
panel
or
you
know,
metal
panels.
E
E
E
I
guess
that's
it.
I
mean
you
know
I,
when
you
build
new
construction
in
a
historic
district,
you
want
the
new
building
to
be
of
its
time
and
place
and
not-
and
I
understand
this
is
this-
is
very
square
and
blocky-
and
you
know
it's
it,
it's
there's
no
gable,
roofs,
there's
no
hips,
there's
no,
nothing
and
it's
and
it's
it's
a
modern
geometry,
but
I
don't
see
the
materials
and
the
level
of
transparency
and.
E
And
the
I
guess,
the
level
of
craftsmanship
and
facade
play
that's
reflective
of
a
high
level
of
craftsmanship
and
quality
and
I'm
having
a
little
difficulty
with
that.
F
There's
probably
no
reason
for
both
stairs
to
go
to
the
roof.
Is
that
is
that
correct?
You
only
need
it's
not
habitable
space,
so
you
only
need
one
exit.
A
F
So
you've
developed
a
tower
that
is
not
unlike
the
towers
on
the
on
the
vernacular
frame
buildings
on
either
side.
I'm
sorry,
you've
developed
a
tower
at
that
corner.
That
is
not
unlike
the
sort
of
higher
elements
of
the
vernacular
frame
buildings
that
are
to
the
you
know,
to
either
side
of
this
building
right.
G
F
I
just
despite
the
fact
that
it's
behind
the
you
know
behind
the
sign,
but
okay,
fine-
and
I
think
commissioner
protocop
has
has
justifiably
mentioned
that
maybe
we
could
get
a
little
bit
better
material,
certainly
on
the
front
of
the
building
sure,
rather
than
the
than
the
then
the
just
simple
flat
stucco,
and
then
I
was
questioning
whether
this
the
flat
stucco
gets
even
a
different
window.
Detail.
A
F
For
what
I
can
see,
what
I
conceive
as
a
background,
building,
right
and
and
so
like
it
is,
it
is
not
unlike
some
of
the
sort
of
undistinguished
vernacular
frame
structures
that
we
have
in
all
of
our
historic.
F
G
F
To
embellish
it
in
any
way
to
make
it
more
than
what
it
really
is,
so
I
think
that
that
is
perfectly
acceptable.
There
are
window
frames
with
no
glass
in
the
facing
the
garage.
Is
that
the
way
that
works
or
their
actual
window,
there
are
actually
are
those
glazed,
openings
or
well.
K
No
yeah
the
intent
was
in
order
to
maintain
some
sense
of
vernacular
and
so
that
they
weren't
just
open
openings
and
to
create
some
transparency.
K
The
idea
was
to
write
non-glazed
framed
openings
correct
so
that
at
least
for
pedestrians
walking
by
it
would
feel
like
it
had
some
sort
of
relationship
to
the
neighboring
structures,
but
I
don't
think
putting
you
know:
glazed
windows.
There
would
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
looking
into
where
cars
are
parked
right.
F
And
that
and
the
windows,
the
windows
you
have
specified,
are
aluminum
clad
wood
windows.
Is
that
correct?
Were
there.
K
Yeah,
well
that
well
that's
something
that
we
were
considering.
We
we've
been
talking
the
the
the
windows
we
were
looking
at
were
pella
windows,
and
you
know:
we've
been
looking
at
whether
or
not
it
made
sense
because
of
their
location
and
them
being
up
so
high,
whether
we
could
use
a
vinyl
product.
I
know
that
that's
not
looked
highly
upon,
but
the
idea
you
know
we
were
you
know.
Looking
at
wood,
clad
yeah,
you
know
single
home.
F
I
would
have
to
look
at
my
look
at
my
fellow
commissioners
for
an
approval
on
vinyl,
but
certainly
the
and
the
divisions
in
the
upper
lights
will
be
expressed
on
the
are
those
true
divided
lights,
or
at
least
what
would
the
millions
and
mountains
on
that
on
those
upper.
K
No,
I
mean
the
the
idea
was
to
use
something
representative
of
what
was
shown
here
in
this
photo
that
that's
been
being
used
elsewhere
in
the
district,
but
no
they
would
have
relief
and
it
would
it
would
look,
it
would
be.
You
know
something
that's
shown
like
here
now.
I
know
this
is
this
is
a
six
panel,
but
you
know
there
there
are
it.
Would
it
would
be
something
more
in
the
line
of
this.
This.
K
These
are
three
three
five.
B
B
K
K
We
were
trying
to
break
down
the
massing
of
the
building
a
little
bit,
and
so
the
idea
was
almost
in
a
way
to
create
sort
of
these
three
distinct
but
related
languages,
and
so
you
know
it's
not
that
we
are
opposed
to
doing
some
sort
of
detailing,
but
I
guess
the
thought
process
was
to
create
some
sort
of
you
know:
distinct
language
for
the
stucco,
distinct
language
for
this
corner
tower
element
here,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
the
thought
process
behind
it
see.
B
I
could
see
easily
the
necessity,
for
you
know,
breaking
up
the
large
mass
of
the
building
into
pieces
that
have
their
certain
relationship,
and
you
marry
them
together
to
me
would
think
that
certain
very
minor
detail
elements
such
as
the
silhous
example,
would
be
something
that
could
be
used
to
tie
all
the
pieces
together
in
a
very
simple
way.
Sure
related
to
this.
B
I
understand
what
you're
doing
with
the
brick
base,
and
it
seems
to
me
a
little
bit
incongruous
here
that
there's
something
broken
here
on
this
elevation,
because
I
I
see
the
mailroom
and
the
front
entrance
of
being
clad
in
brick
and
if
you
turn
around
the
corner,
you've
got
a
little
piece
of
brick
wall.
That
goes
all
the
way
up
all
the
way
up.
The
side
of
the
building.
B
K
Yes,
I
think
what
I
was
trying
to
do.
I
felt
like
it
was
almost
becoming
too
well.
I
think
it
started
to
become
almost
overly
heavy
with
brick,
and
I
know
that
within
the
district
might
sound
a
little
bit
absurd,
but
I
felt
like
what
I
was
trying
to
do
is
create
little
hints
of
brick
and
weave
the
brick
in
and
out
and
so
have
this
element
of
brick
here
brick
here.
If
we
look,
if
we
go
around
the
building,
we'll
see
in
the
various
elevations
actually
I
have
elevations
here
that.
K
Sort
of
pull
the
pull
the
trees
away
so
you'll
see
here
in
this
elevation
wow.
These
are
really
we
dark
read
that
so
the
idea,
the
kind
of
idea
was
that
you
know
you
never
really
experience
a
building
from
a
flat
elevation.
You
kind
of
experience
it
from
an
angle.
So
you
know
this
is
this:
is
the
south
portion
of
the
building?
K
But
the
idea
is
that
the
brick
turns
and
then
it
kind
of
comes
up
and
goes
up
that
stair
tower
and
comes
around
and
it
comes
back
and
it
goes
up
the
other
element.
So
it
was
just
kind
of
these
hints
of
brick
that
you
know
just
give
you
the
essence
of
the
brick
but
don't
dominate
the
building.
But
you
know
you:
have
you
bring
a
really
valid
point,
because
this
stair
tower
is
is
clad
and
brick
and
it
might
not.
You
know,
be
that
absurd
to
think
that
this
well.
B
On
the
same
vein,
you
know
take
a
look
at
the
stair
tower
on
your
east
side
as
well.
I
mean
what
you've
done
is
is:
is
you've
continued
on
the
ground,
plane
level
that
brick
around
that
corner?
B
Perhaps
that's
what's
necessary
on
this
side
here
in
your
front
as
well,
not
necessarily
the
whole
of
the
tower,
but
bring
that
around
the
corner
to
meet
its
sister
brick
wall.
On
the
other
side
right,
I
think,
then
I
can
see
how
you
might
take
the
remaining
of
this
tower
as
a
as
a
differently
detailed
stucco
assembly
in
a
different
color.
B
I
think
that's
that's
something
that
that
could
work
to
your
benefit,
because
the
the
piece
here
that's
missing
is
how
do
you
tie
these
three
different
sections
together
in
your
primary
elevation
in
your
primary
elevation?
It's
it
there's!
There's
I
see
a
missing
piece
sure
I
see
a
missing
piece.
The
last
time
I
want
I
would
like
to
discuss
with
you
is
the
nature
of
your
perimeter
fence.
K
K
And
so
it
was
required
by
the
city
to
put
a
six
foot
wall
as
a
use
to
use
buffer
and
so
that
our
our
preference
was
to
do
maybe
a
wood
fence,
but
they
were.
The
request
was
to
put
a
six
foot
cmu
wall,
our
my
my
feeling
and
after
talking
with
brent,
we
thought
that
was
a
little
bit
excessive
to
break
in
and
wall
in
this
building.
K
B
Transparent
lattice
work
that
you
have
there
have
you
had
a
chance
to
discuss
with
the
city
this
perimeter
wall
with
the
transparent
latticework?
Yet
no,
I
guess
the
reason
why
I
asked
the
question:
is
you
know,
they're
thinking
a
solid
masonry
wall
and
you're
proposing
something
at
this
point
which
is
not.
C
E
E
B
F
B
K
No
okay,
no
rebuttal,
I
just
you
know
we're
happy
happy
to
you,
know,
discuss
the
options
in
terms
of
the
perimeter
wall
and
you
know
we'll
we
can.
I
can
talk
to
brent
and
we
can
you
know
he.
He
would
be
happy
to
build
a
six
foot
wall.
You
know
that's
what
is
required
by
this.
K
The
city
I
feel
like
it
would
kind
of
be
a
disservice
to
the
area
and
be
a
little
bit
aesthetically
unappealing,
I
feel
like
this
might
be
a
better
treatment
and
provide
a
little
bit
more
transparency
and
a
little
bit
more
aesthetically
appealing
feature
for
the
site.
L
Doesn't
it's
irrelevant
to
me
in
terms
of
you
know,
I
think
I
think
aesthetically
they'll
all
work
as
a
landscaper
architect
with
that
wall.
The
six
foot
wall,
six
foot
block
wall
is
a
six
foot
block
wall.
I
mean
it's,
it's
kind
of
tight
areas
to
me.
We
still
have
the
wall.
We
could
bring,
maybe
more
block
less
the
panels
that
are
kind
of
the
inserts.
L
Maybe
we
could
shrink
those
a
little
bit
to
bring
a
little
bit
more
wall,
but
a
six
foot
wall
is
just
a
it's
a
six
foot
wall.
You
know
block.
We
would
incorporate
those
materials
in
there
to
complement
the
building.
You
know
I
just
think
it
would
make
the
whole
site
more
cohesive
aesthetically.
But
if
you
guys
want
a
six
foot
block
wall
I'll,
do
a
six
foot
block
wall,
we'll
paint
it
we'll
make
it.
You
know
attractive
with
landscaping
and
whatnot.
You
know
we
can
deal
with
that.
L
That's
not
a
for
us!
A
some
just!
You
know
likewise
that
stair
tower
in
the
front.
I
think
that
you
guys
talking
about
it,
I
mean
brick
would
probably
be
nice,
it
would
look
nice.
You
know
we
were
breaking
up
that
that
big
stucco
stairwell
with
some
metal
awnings,
that's
how
we're
going
to
try
to
introduce
another
element
to
it
to
break
up.
So
it's
not
just
you
know.
L
Big
stucco
stucco,
like
alex,
talked
about
basically
three
sections
of
the
building
and
we
were
going
to
try
to
sprinkle
the
metal
throughout
the
horizontal,
the
long,
horizontal
awning
across
the
front
that
would
be
metal
as
well.
So
we're
trying
to
mix
in
you
know
all
the
different
elements
that
you
see
around
hyde
park
and
any
more
contemporary
building,
of
course,
but
we're
wide
open
to
that
stairwell
being
it
could
be
any
number
of
materials
I
think
and
and
and
work.
B
F
I
actually
think
that
the
detailing
is
pretty
appropriate
around
the
stucco
that
the
you
know
the
the
cell
does
not
need
to
partake
of
the
same.
It
does
not
need
to
speak
the
same
language
as
the
more
traditional
detailing
in
other
areas.
F
Yeah,
the
middle,
the
middle
part
that
they're
really
the
strictly
punched
windows,
are,
I
think,
perfectly
acceptable.
There.
E
I'll
just
reiterate
that
I
think
I'd
love
for
the
at
least
the
front
elevation
and
wrapping
the
two
corners
along
the
front
elevation
to
have
just
just
higher
end
materials
all
in
all,
even
if
the
br,
even
if
the
stair
tower
was
brick,
it
could
be
a
black
brick.
It
could
be
an
alternating.
You
know
it
could
be
an
alternate
color
brick.
I
also
have
a
small.
E
I
don't
it's
like
the
building.
It's
almost.
It
doesn't
really
know
what
it
wants
to
be.
It's
it's
these
flat
surfaces,
so
it's
sort
of
modern,
but
then
it's
got
double
hung
true,
divided
light
windows
like
you'd,
find
in
a
historic
building
and
then
they're
all
the
same
window
and
they're
all
the
same
window,
no
matter
what
kind
of
material
it's
in.
It's
all
the
same
window,
punched
around
I'd
almost
like
to
see
like
this
corner
piece.
Instead
of
and
I'm
just
I'm
throwing
out
ideas,
I'm
not
telling
you
how
to
design
the
building.
E
I'm
just
I'm
really
throwing
out
ideas
that
you
know
the
the
the
hardy
wood
piece
could
be
metal
panel
and
the
the
the
the
stair
tower
could
be
a
you
know,
a
porcelain
panel
and
each
could
have
a
different
shape
size
window
in
it,
so
that
it's
not
so
repetitive
and
that
you
know
each
object
would
have
its
own
family
of
detailing
and
flavor
and
size
of
window.
E
But
I'd
at
least
like
to
see
the
front
facade
have
a
lot
less
stucco
and
a
lot
more,
a
higher
end
material.
I
wouldn't
necessarily
be
opposed
because
it
happens
in
the
backs
of
buildings,
and
you
know
once
you
get
past
a
certain
point
in
on
a
facade.
You
know
materials
change
in
in
the
backyard
in
the
you
know
in
the
side
yards,
but
particularly
in
the
street.
If
it's,
if
it's
trying
to
be
a
modern
building,
and
it
should
be
a
modern
building
and
of
its
time,
then
the
material
should
be
more
modern.
F
F
I
am
I'm
fine
with
the
with
the
hardy
board
with
the
hardy
plank
it
it
it
does.
It
makes
a
reference.
Clearly
it's
a
modern
material,
because
it's
because
of
its
dimension
and
its
material-
and
it's
also
a
sort
of
it's
a
very
common
material,
and
I
don't
mind
that
in
a
a
background
building
I
mean
this
is
not
you
know,
we
don't
historic.
You
know
historic
districts
are
not
made
up
of
you
know.
F
And
it
is
it
has
provide.
I
think
they
have
made
an
attempt
to
provide
sufficient
variety
to
to
meet
the
common,
the
common
requirements
for
the
district,
and
so
I
think
that
it
needs
a
little
fine-tuning.
But
I
think
it
is
something
that
certainly
that
staff
can
can
work
on.
D
E
Perhaps
had
gone
further
personally,
it
gone
further,
it's
a
modern
building
in
a
historic
district,
and
it
should
be
of
its
time
and
place
and
it's
too
much
of
a
hybrid
there's
too
many
things
that
are
like.
Oh
yeah.
This
is
from
the
past,
but
this
is
a
modern
building,
but
we're
using
this
kind
of
detailing
from
the
past
and
this
window
dividing
from
the
past.
It
changes
over
there,
yeah
it
just
it
just
it.
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
go
further.
E
I
want
it
to
go
further
modern
and
I
just
feel
like
it's
kind
of
like
it's
halfway
between
it's
just
like
a
a
clash
of
two
different
things,
and
it
wants
to
be
one.
B
B
That
is
a
very,
very
contemporary
device,
that
this
is
not
so
large.
A
building
is
to
swallow
a
city
block
where
you
can
have
very,
very
major
statements
on
various
corners.
This
is
still
a
very
compact
building
on
a
compact
lot,
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
certain
degree
of
you're
going
to
select
some
materials.
Fine
at
least
use
them
in
a
consistent
manner.
F
E
Like
that
everybody
likes
the
wall,
except
for
the
fact
that
I
don't
know.
Why
is
the
wall
mandated
by
the
city?
Why
is
it
mandated
by
the
city
and
not
a
fence?
Why
is
it
a
six
foot
walmart
use
separation,
but
but
if
it's
transparent,
is
there
any
separation?
Are
you
separating
anything
if
you're,
if
it's
just
transparent
well,.
E
F
B
Yeah,
okay,
I
think
I
think
I
think
the
fence,
as
we
see
it
right
now,
that
perimeter,
you
know
offense
separation
wall,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
I
think,
for
me
moves
forward
the
way
it
is
okay
and
if
there's
a
hiccup
on
the
city
side,
then
perhaps
we'll
end
up
seeing
this
thing
again,
I
don't.
B
F
That
the
final
design
for
the
front
for
the
materials
at
the
front,
elevation
in
terms
of
their
material
quality,
shall
be
coordinated
with
staff
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park.
Historic
district
design
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons.
B
Before
we
proceed
questions
of
the
applicant,
do
you
understand
and
accept
the
conditions,
as
stated?
Yes?
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
gentlemen.
All
those
in
favor
for
this
project.
Please
raise
your
hand
and
say
I
I
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