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Identify
yourself
and
rel
relationship
to
the
project.
relationship
to
the
project.
commissioners
will
not
ask
commissioners
will
not
ask
questions
during
the
questions
during
the
presentation.
presentation.,
your
project,
site
plan,
your
project,
site
plan,
elevations,,
architectural
elevations,,
architectural
details
and
wall
sections.
A
details
and
wall,
sections.
staff
will
present
staff
re
staff
will
present
staff
re
report.
report..
We
will
then
ask
for
public.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment.
comment.
following
your
presentation,
following
your
presentation,
commissioners,
will
be
asking
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation.,
the
presentation.,
please
state,
and
spell
your
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly
if
you
were
here
name
clearly,
if
you
were
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project.
A
project.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time.
Will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
three
minutes.
take
some
time
now
to
summarize
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comment,
because
three,
your
comment,
because
three
minutes
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very
quickly
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goes
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very
quickly
following
public
comment,
following
public
comment,
applicant
will
have
five
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
A
minutes
for
rebuttal.
the
public
hearing
will
be.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed.
closed..
The
only
comments
that
will
be
the
only
comments
that
will
be
allowed
after
public
hearing
is
allowed
after
public
hearing
is
closed,
is
response
to
any
closed
is
response
to
any
questions
from
the
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners..
The
commissioners
will
then
the
commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
make
their
discuss
the
case
and
make
their
decisions
based
on
the
city.
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Decisions
based
on
the
city,
ordinance,
chapter
27
of
the
ordinance
chapter,
27
of
the
city,
zoning
code,,
the
design
city,
zoning
code,,
the
design
guidelines,,
the
secretary
of
guidelines,,
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
design,
interior
standards,
design,
review
comments
and
the
review
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
this
public
testimony
given
at
this
public
hearing.
hearing.,
the
blc
can
only
act
on
items.
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Fernandez,
architectic
historic,
manager.
manager.
welcome
to
today's
public.
Welcome
to
today's
public
hearing.
hearing..
I
do
have
the
administrative.
I
do
have
the
administrative
approvals
to
center
into
the
approvals
to
center
into
the
record.
record..
I
will
provide
those
to
the
I
will
provide
those
to
the
clerk.
clerk..
I
did
want
to
thank
everyone.
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out
the
technology
to
do
so..
Other
than
that,
I
think
we
are
other
than
that.
I
think
we
are
ready
to
move
on
into
the
ready
to
move
on
into
the
agenda.
agenda.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
good
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
good
morning,,
camaria
pettis-mackle
morning,
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city
attorney's
of.
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From
the
city
attorney's
of
office.
office.,
will
the
commissioners
please
will
the
commissioners
please
state
on
record
whether
or
not
state
on
record
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
any
of
the
interest
regarding
any
of
the
items
listed
on
the
agenda?.
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John
thompson:
thank
you.
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
commissioners,
ron,
vila
with
commissioners,
ron,
vila
with
staff
from
the
historic
staff
from
the
historic
preservation.
preservation.
moving
down
the
agenda
under
moving
down
the
agenda
under
continuations.
continuations.,
one
reflected
on
today's
agenda.
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Currently,
it
is
a
vacant
parcel
with
a
zoning
classification
of
with
a
zoning
classification
of
yc-2.
yc-2.
their
request
this
morning
for
their
request
this
morning
for
a
single-family
residence.,
a
single-family
residence.,
a
two-story
structure
with
a
a
two-story
structure,
with
a
one-story
accessory
structure,
one-story
accessory
structure
attached
to
that
request.
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F
Did
you
flip
the
switch?
check.
check.
once
again,
we
would
like
to
once
again,?
We
would
like
to
start
with
the
sanborn
map.
That
start
with
the
sanborn
map
that
is
reflecting
the
fabric
from
is
reflecting
the
fabric
from
1929.
1929..
The
property
in
question
is
the
property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
shaded
green.
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Highlighted
in
the
shaded
green
area.
area.,
this
was
east
michigan
back
in
this
was
east
michigan
back
in
'29,
which
is
currently
columbus
'29,
which
is
currently
columbus,
drive.
drive..
It
is
an
interior
parcel
and
it
is
an
interior
parcel
and
you
see
how
these
structures
you
see
how
these
structures
line
up
with
the
abutting
line
up
with
the
abutting
structures.
structures..
There
is
an
alley
to
the
rear.
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question
is
in
the
green
box..
It
is
a
deep
parcel
with
alley.
It
is
a
deep
parcel
with
alley.
Access.
access.
that
will
be
part
of
the
that
will
be
part
of
the
request.
This
morning.
request
this
morning..
If
you
look
at
columbus
drive,
if
you
look
at
columbus
drive
as
well,,
there
are
some
as
well,.
There
are
some
parallel
spots
that
aid
the
parallel
spots
that
aid
the
community
in
this
particular
community
in
this
particular
environment,
to
add
additional
environment,
to
add
additional
parking
spots
for
the
parking
spots
for
the
properties
to
use.
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F
drive
back
into
the
parcel..
There
is
the
parking
spots
that
there
is
the
parking
spots
that
I
spoke
about.
I
spoke
about..
There
is
a
granite
curbing,,
the
there
is
a
granite,
curbing,,
the
sidewalk,
and
then
you
get
into
sidewalk,
and
then
you
get
into
the
parcel.
the
parcel.
just
to
the
west,.
You
have
a
just
to
the
west,.
You
have
a
period
structure.
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F
F
over
here,
the
empty
parcel.?
This
is
the
abutting
structure.
This
is
the
abutting
structure
that
I
showed
to
the
west,
and
that
I
showed
to
the
west,
and
you
see
the
vocabulary.
Looking
you
see
the
vocabulary
looking
to
the
west
along
columbus
to
the
west,
along
columbus,
drive.
drive.,
turning
around,
looking
down
turning
around,
looking
down
columbus
drive
toward
the
east.
F
Columbus
drive
toward
the
east..
The
parking
that
I
showed
is
the
parking
that
I
showed
is
additional
parking
for
this
additional
parking
for
this
commercial
structure
here
that
commercial
structure
here
that
is
also
a
contributing,
is
also
a
contributing
structure.
structure..
Looking
from
the
alley
back
looking
from
the
alley
back
into
the
property
toward
into
the
property
toward
columbus,
drive,
and
just
to.
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John
thompson:
thanks,
ron.,
good
morning,,
commis,
good
morning,,
commis
commissioners,,
joe
gibbons.
commissioners,,
joe
gibbons.
gulf
bay
builders
on
the
gulf
bay
builders
on
the
applicant
and
the
builder
of
applicant
and
the
builder
of
the
project.,
the
project..
The
parcel
in
question
is
at
the
parcel
in
question:
is
at
1718
east
columbus,
drive.,
1718,
east
columbus
drive.
as
ron
mentioned,.
There
is
a
--
as
ron
mentioned,.
There
is
a
--.
There
is
an
existing
alley.
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H
H
H
H
H
Existing
structure
at
1760,
east
columbus
is
here
with
their
columbus
is
here
with
their
front
porch,
which
we
plan
to
front
porch,
which
we
plan
to
match
here.
match
here..
We
are
going
to
center
the
we
are
going
to
center.
The
proposed
single-family
home
on
proposed
single-family
home
on
the
lot.,
the
lot..
There
is
a
detached
one-car.
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H
H
H
H
H
New
construction
for
si
single-family,
semi-detached
single-family,,
semi-detached
duplexes.
duplexes..
If
the
dwelling
proposes
to
use
if
the
dwelling
proposes
to
use
the
public
alleyway
for
the
public,
alleyway
for
vehicular
access
will
not
be
vehicular.
Access
will
not
be
required
to
pave
the
unapproved.
H
Alley
that
meets
the
criteria
of
unpaved
alleys
listed
in
of
unpaved
alleys,
listed
in
section
five.,
section
five.
over
in
section
five
alley
over
in
section
five
alley:
surface
material
should
provide
surface
material,
should
provide
low
ability
for
losses
due
to
low
ability
for
losses
due
to
wind
and
erosion,
and
be
pr
wind
and
erosion
and
be
pr
properly
graded
and
meet
a
properly
graded
and
meet
a
minimum
of
optional
base.
Group.-
minimum
of
optional
base
group.:
what
I
intend
to
do
is
what
I
intend
to
do
is
obviously
clear.
The
alleyway.
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H
H
A
single-family
home,
two-
two-story.
two-story.
finished
floor.
Elevation
will
finished
floor.
Elevation
will
be
to
match
the
existing
be
to
match
the
existing
structure
next
door
at
1716
structure
next
door
at
1716,
east
columbus
drive,,
which
is
a
east
columbus
drive,,
which
is
a
32-inch
finished
floor.
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H
H
H
H
32-Inch
incorporate
a
railing
on
the
porch,,
as
well
as
a
on
the
porch,,
as
well
as
a
walkway
up
to
the
front
porch
walkway
up
to
the
front
porch
railing.
railing..
It
will
have
a
stem
wall
which
it
will
have
a
stem
wall
which
will
have
a
thin
--.
A
smooth
will
have
a
thin
--,
a
smooth
sand,
finish
stucco
and
brick.
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H
H
Staff
has
mentioned
they
would
like
to
incorporate
something
like
to
incorporate
something
--,
where
the
existing
12-inch
--,
where
the
existing
12-inch
band
board
that
separates
the
band
board
that
separates
the
first
and
second
floor..
First
and
second
floor.
and
I
mentioned
to
ron,,
I
would-
and
I
mentioned
to
ron,.
I
would
be
open
to
raising
this
roof
up,
be
open
to
raising
this
roof
up.
So
this
roof
line,
which
is.
H
H
And
so
this
12-inch
band
board
can
wrap
around
the
entire
can
wrap
around
the
entire
three
sides
of
the
rear
entry
three
sides
of
the
rear
entry
porch.
porch..
That
will
be
the
same
thing
that
will
be
the
same
thing
over
on
this
side.
over
on
this
side.,
this
12-inch
band
board.
Will
this
12-inch
band
board
will
come
and
wrap
around.
come
and
wrap
around.?
Basically,
this
whole
thing
is
basically
this
whole
thing
is
lifted
up
and
will
just
be
to.
H
H
H
H
porch.
the
structure
--
the
proposed
the
structure
--
the
proposed
structure
does
have
a
detached
structure,
does
have
a
detached
garage
which
is
very
similar
to
garage
which
is
very
similar
to
this
one..
This
one.
and
we
continue
that
exposed
and
we
continue
that
exposed
rafter
tails
with
the
1
x,
6
rafter
tails,
with
the
1
x,
6
bead,
board,,
1
x,
8
fascia.
H
Bead
board,
1
x,
8
fascia.
and
the
band
board
as
it
and
the
band
board
as
it
separates
and
turns
into
the6
3,
separates
and
turns
into
the6
3
gable,
here.
gable,
here.,
the
garage
door,.
We
continue
the
garage
door,.
We
continue
that
craftsman,
look
here.,
that
craftsman
look
here..
This
shows
a
little
bit
of
the.
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F
To
that
review.
mr.
gibbons
did
indicate
he
was
mr.
gibbons
did
indicate
he
was
going
to
provide
some
going
to
provide
some
landscaping
to
screen
the
landscaping
to
screen
the
mechanicals
on
the
east
side
of
mechanicals
on
the
east
side
of
the
property.,
the
property.
he
did
provide
the
dimensions
he
did
provide
the
dimensions
from
finished
floor
level
to
be
from
finished
floor
level
to
be
consistent
with
the
structure
consistent
with
the
structure
to
the
west.
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F
Jose
gelats:
was
staff,
look
can
for
an
additional
window
on
can
for
an
additional
window
on
the
ground,
floor?
the
ground
floor?.
I
can
comment
on
that..
I
can
comment
on
that..
What
staff
was
looking
for
is
what
staff
was
looking
for
is
an
additional
window
on
the
an
additional
window
on
the
second
floor
toward
the
front
second
floor
toward
the
front
window.
Placement
prior
to
air
window
placement
prior
to
air
conditioning
was
very
important.
Conditioning
was
very
important
to
get
the
ventilation
inside
to
get
the
ventilation
inside
of
these
homes.
F
F
F
know,
on
a
daily
basis..
What
staff
was
looking
for
an
what
staff
was
looking
for
an
additional
window
on
second
additional
window
on
second
floor
toward
the
window
--
floor
toward
the
window.
--
prior
to
air
conditioning
prior
to
air
conditioning
was
very
important
to
get
the
was
very
important
to
get
the
ventilation
inside
of
these
ventilation.
Inside
of
these
homes.
homes..
As
we
see
air
conditioning
come
as
we
see
air
conditioning
come
online
and
more
new
online
and
more
new
construction,.
The
elimination,
construction,.
E
H
H
C
E
Can
you
--
jose
gelats:?
It
appears
if
jose
gelats:.
It
appears
if
you
didn't
want
--.
I
understand
you
didn't
want
--.
I
understand
leaving
a
long
wall
for
the
leaving
a
long
wall
for
the
placement,
but
looks
like
you
placement,
but
looks
like
you
can
put
a
window
in
the
can
put
a
window
in
the
corridor
portion
of
the
bedroom
corridor
portion
of
the
bedroom,
and
that
would
satisfy
an
and
that
would
satisfy
an
additional,.
You
know,
opening.
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G
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
A
Just
the
elevation
would
be
fine.
fine..
This
is
the
rear
right
here..
This
is
the
rear
right,
here.
okay.
okay.
in
looking
at
this,,
I
think
in
looking
at
this,.
I
think
that
staff
has
brought
up
the
that
staff
has
brought
up
the
notion
of
--
and
you
have
notion
of
---
and
you
have
addressed
this
in
your
addressed
this
in
your
presentation
of
raising
the
--
presentation
of
raising
the
--,
the
porch,
covering
there
to
be.
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A
A
H
A
A
A
A
A
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
from
that
elevation,.
It
was
--
from
that
elevation,
it
was
--.
I
couldn't
tell
if
the
window
I
couldn't
tell
if
the
window
was
going
to
be
next
to
--
the
was
going
to
be
next
to
--
the
window
next
to
the
door.
Would
window
next
to
the
door
would
be
in
a
trim,
piece
or
not,.
A
A
A
A
Kitchen
by
a
bedroom.
one
of
the
things
we
will
one
of
the
things
we
will
discuss
want
to
have
the
discuss,
want
to
have
the
additional
window
and
focus
on
additional
window
and
focus
on
alignment.
Since
the
building
is
alignment,
since
the
building
is
so
small
in
the
front.,
so
small
in
the
front..
A
The
front
is
so
small
that
you,
the
front
is
so
small
that
you
have
such
symmetry
there
that
have
such
symmetry
there
that
some
of
the
side
elevations
some
of
the
side
elevations,
although
very
tight,
the,
although
very
tight,
the
windows,
don't
have
a
particular
windows.
Don't
have
a
particular
order
and
follow
the
space.
A
H
H
A
Windows
from
this
bedroom
up
here,
which
will
give
a
little
here
which
will
give
a
little
relief
between
the
door
and
the
relief
between
the
door
and
the
first
window,
here.
first
window
here.,
I
think,
having
--
since
it,
I
think,
having
--
since
it
doesn't
seem
like
there
is
too
doesn't
seem
like.
There
is
too
much
of
a
conflict
in
either
of
much
of
a
conflict
in
either
of
the
spaces
to
pull
the
bottom.
A
A
A
Questions.,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
you:
have
the
opportunity
to
discuss
further
any
comments.
Discuss
further
any
comments.
You
heard
thus
far,,
but
I
you
heard
thus
far,,
but
I
think
you
have
been
addressing
think
you
have
been
addressing
them
as
we
have
been
going.
them
as
we
have
been
going.
any
other
comments
before
we
any
other
comments
before
we
close
the
public
hearing
on.
E
The
case
forward.,
I
will
make
a
motion..
I
will
make
a
motion..
This
will
be
final
approve
to
this
will
be
final,
approve
to
grant
a
certificate
of
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents.
Pre
drawings
and
documents
pre
presented
at
this
public
presented
at
this
public
hearing
on
blc
20-165
for
the
hearing
on
blc
20-165
for
the
property
located
at
1718
east
property
located
at
1718,
east
columbus,
drive.
E
E
Massing
and
scaling
follow
the
pattern
seen
within
the
pattern
seen
within
the
historic
district.
historic
district.,
and
this
will
be
with
the
and
this
will
be
with
the
following
conditions.
following
conditions.
that
the
applicant
present
a
that.
The
applicant
present
a
landscaping
plan
that
addresses
landscaping,
plan
that
addresses
shielding
the
air
conditioning
shielding
the
air
conditioning
compressor
unit
from
the
public.
E
E
E
E
A
A
Camaria
pettis-mackle:
mr.
chair,,
before
the
--
okay.
chair,
before
the
--
okay.,
you
knew
what
I
was
going
to.
You
knew
what
I
was
going
to
ask.
ask.
john
thompson:.
We
are
going
john
thompson:.
We
are
going
to
go
there.
to
go
there..
You
heard
the
motion
with
the
you
heard
the
motion
with
the
conditions
attached
to
it.
C
A
Put
your
response
on
the
re
record.
record.
yes,.
I
am
in
agreement
to
yes,.
I
am
in
agreement
to
any
conditions.
any
conditions.
john
thompson:
thank
you.
john
thompson:
thank
you..
We
have
all
of
it..
We
have
all
of
it.
a
motion
and
a
second.
a
motion
and
a
second.
all
in
favor.,
all
in
favor.
any
opposed?.
F
F
F
F
F
F
That
runs
north
and
south..
The
abutting
properties
have
a
the
abutting
properties,
have
a
different
orientation
than
the
different
orientation
than
the
subject
site,,
and
there
is
an
subject
site,,
and
there
is
an
alley
that
runs
east
and
west
alley
that
runs
east
and
west
behind
the
property
and
a
behind
the
property
and
a
16-foot
alley
indicated
on
the.
F
F
F
F
These
are
the
period
structures
that
flank
the
subject
site
that
flank
the
subject
site
that
he
will
be
aligning
to
get
that
he
will
be
aligning
to
get
the
setbacks
consistent
with
the
setbacks,
consistent
with
the
historic
fabric
and
also
the
historic
fabric,
and
also
talk
about
elevation
from
talk
about
elevation
from
grade.
grade..
So
as
we
go
through
the
photos,.
F
So
as
we
go
through
the
photos,,
this
is
the
subject
site..
This
is
the
subject
site.
once
again,
the
vehicular
once
again,,
the
vehicular
access
will
be
off
the
rear,
so
access
will
be
off
the
rear,
so
the
granite
curbing
will
re
the
granite
curbing.
Will
re
remain.
remain.,
the
small
parkway,,
the
sid,
the
small
parkway,,
the
sid
sidewalk,
and,
as
you
get
into
sidewalk,
and
as
you
get
into
the
property,,
this
is
behind
the
property,.
This
is
behind
the
construction.
Fence.
F
The
construction
fence.
natural
resources
did
look
at
natural
resources,
did
look
at
this,
so
the
trees
that
are
here
this
so
the
trees
that
are
here
have
been
reviewed
and
will
be,
have
been
reviewed
and
will
be
mitigated
out
if
they
are
to
be
mitigated
out
if
they
are
to
be
removed
through
the
permitting
removed
through
the
permitting
process.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
the
structure
at
1212,
east
15th,
avenue
immediately
to
east
15th,
avenue
immediately
to
the
west.,
the
west..
It
is
confirmed
that
the
fi
it
is
confirmed
that
the
fi
finished
floor
elevation
of
finished
floor.
Elevation
of
this
is
at
36
inches,
which
we,
this
is
at
36
inches,
which
we
will
match
to
this
floor.
H
Moving
on
to
the
site
plan.
the
front
of
this
structure,
the
front
of
this
structure
will
align
with
the
structure
will
align
with
the
structure
at
1212
east
15th
avenue,
which
at
1212
east
15th
avenue,
which
is
approximately
17
feet
from,
is
approximately
17
feet
from
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
from.
H
H
alleyway..
We
are
only
required
to
have.
We
are
only
required
to
have
two
parking
spots.,
two
parking
spots.
we
are
going
to
--.
We
have
the
we
are
going
to
--.
We
have
the
room
to
provide
a
guest
parking
room
to
provide
a
guest
parking
spot
in
addition
to
the
two
spot,
in
addition
to
the
two
that
are
required
with
a
w
that
are
required
with
a
w
walkway
that
comes
around
on
walkway
that
comes
around
on
the
east
side
of
the
property.,
the
east
side
of
the
property..
One
of
the
conditions
was
that.
H
H
Space
here,
as
well.
from
the
previous
photo
that
from
the
previous
photo
that
showed
the
alleyway
in
its
showed
the
alleyway
in
its
current
condition.
current
condition.,
and
this
is
a
document
that
was-
and
this
is
a
document
that
was
provided
to
us
earlier.
This
provided
to
us
earlier
this
year
from
transportation
year
from
transportation
stormwater
that
reflects
what
stormwater
that
reflects
what
we
are
entitled
to
do
in
an.
H
We
are
entitled
to
do
in
an
unimproved
alleyway,
which
unimproved
alleyway,
which
references
section
5,
which
we
references,
section
5,
which
we
will
provide.
A
low
potential,
will
provide
a
low
potential
for
lot.
--
provide
low
for
lot.
--,
provide
low
potential
of
losses
due
to
w
potential
of
losses
due
to
w
wind,
traffic,
water,
erosion.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
We
do
have
exposed
rafter
ta
tails,
1
x,
6
groove,
exposed
tails,
1
x,
6
groove,
exposed
soffit.,
soffit.
large
rafters.,
large
rafters.
12-inch
band
boards
that
12-inch
band
boards
that
separate.
separate.
this
actually
ends
up
being
a
this
actually
ends
up
being
a
24-inch
because
of
the
depth
of
24-inch
because
of
the
depth
of
the
porch..
The
porch.,
the
porch
deposits
are
eight.
H
The
porch
deposits
are
eight
foot.
foot.
because
it
will
be
a
36-inch
because
it
will
be
a
36-inch
finished
floor.
Elevation,
we
finished
floor.
Elevation,
we
will
be
required
to
have
porch
will
be
required
to
have
porch
railings
and
they
will
match
railings
and
they
will
match
the
porch
railings
on
the
the
porch
railings
on
the
second
floor,
24
x,
24-inch.
H
H
H
H
H
Structure
to
the
west.:
this
is
the
same
product
type.
This
is
the
same
product
type
that
we
just
finished.
That
was
that
we
just
finished
that
was
presented
to
the
board
last
presented
to
the
board
last
year.
year..
It
was
finished
earlier
this
it
was
finished
earlier.
This
year.
year.
at
1306,
east
columbus.
H
H
H
Through
the
permitting
process.
on
this
particular
unit,,
we
on
this
particular
unit,.
We
are
proposed
to
use
a
full
are
proposed
to
use
a
full
glass
entry,
door.
glass,
entry
door..
This
is
the
living
area
in
the
this
is
the
living
area
in
the
front,,
as
well
as
the
same
front,
as
well
as
the
same
entry
door
of
--
for
the
second
entry
door
of
--.
For
the
second
floor
unit.
floor
unit.
shows
a
little
bit
of
the.
H
H
And
then
these
end
up
being
--,
these
are
24
x,
24,
and
these
these
are
24
x,
24,,
and
these
are
12
x.
12.
are
12
x,
12.
the
little
railing
to
separate
the
little
railing
to
separate
the
two
different
units.,
the
two
different
units.,
looking
at
it
from
the
other,
looking
at
it
from
the
other
angle,
six-inch
artisan,,
the.
H
H
H
H
H
F
F
F
F
discussion
on
that.
final
color
palette,
to
be
final
color
palette
to
be
submitted
to
staff.
submitted
to
staff.,
and
then
there
was
one
bullet
and
then
there
was
one
bullet
item.
I
just
want
to
explain
to
item.
I
just
want
to
explain
to
you.
you.
joe,.
If
you
could
put
the
--
joe,,
if
you
could
put
the
--
the
site
plan,
on,
please.
F
line.,
and
it
would
not
provide
code
and
it
would
not
provide
code
compliance
with
the
overhangs
compliance
with
the
overhangs.
If
you
have
a
24-inch
over,
if
you
have
a
24-inch
over
overhangs.
overhangs.
too
close
to
the
property
line.
too
close
to
the
property
line..
So
when
we
get
a
request,
we
so
when
we
get
a
request,,
we
have
amended.
Reviewers
have
amended
reviewers
throughout
the
city
review
for
throughout
the
city,
review
for
compliance
as
it
goes
through
compliance
as
it
goes
through
the
blc
and
permitting.
F
F
F
A
A
B
B
B
B
I
don't
know
why
it
haven't
come
up,
know
why
it
haven't
come
up
before,,
but
it
would
be
great
before,,
but
it
would
be
great
if
he
would
be
required
to
put
if
he
would
be
required
to
put
historically
appropriate,
historically
appropriate
screens
on
the
property
like
screens
on
the
property
like
the
rest
of
us
residents
have
the
rest
of
us.
Residents
have
to.
to..
That
is
just
a
comment.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Supposedly,,
walk
on
this
th
three-foot-wide
sidewalk
three-foot-wide
sidewalk,
between
a
big
wall
of
a
between
a
big
wall
of
a
building
and
a
fence
of
the
building
and
a
fence
of
the
adjoining
property
to
enter
at
adjoining
property
to
enter
at
the
front.,
the
front.
that
is
realistically
not
going
that
is
realistically
not
going
to
happen.
to
happen..
They
are
going
to
park
at
the
they
are
going
to
park
at
the
front
of
the
structure.
B
B
B
B
B
improving
that
alleyway.,
the
brick.,
the
brick.
it
is
showing.
Historically
it
is
showing
historically
significant
brick
at
the
apron.,
significant
brick
at
the
apron..
It
would
be
nice
if
that,
could
it
would
be
nice
if
that
could
be
maintained
and
improved,
not
be
maintained
and
improved,,
not
removed.
removed..
There
are
also
some
trees
right.
B
B
B
We
are
recognized
for
our
tree
canopy,
and
these
trees
have
canopy,
and
these
trees
have
been
in
the
alley
for
many
been
in
the
alley
for
many
years.
years.,
the
palm
trees.
At
the
start,
I
the
palm
trees
at
the
start,
I
am
sure,
will
be
removed
and
a
am
sure
will
be
removed
and
a
shame.
We
keep
removing
trees,
shame.
We
keep
removing
trees,,
removing
trees
and
removing
removing
trees
and
removing
trees.
trees..
I
wish
a
different
design
with.
B
B
B
B
B
A
D
D
I
live
1212
east
12th
avenue
right
next
door
to
the
lot.
right
next
door
to
the
lot..
We
also
welcome
the
new.
We
also
welcome
the
new
construction,.
We
have
the
same
construction,.
We
have
the
same
concern
that
the
building
is
concern
that
the
building
is
too
big
for
the
small
lot,
that
too
big
for
the
small
lot
that
it
is
on..
It
is
on.
D
D
decrease,
that.,
and,
yes,.
I
would
love
to
have
and,
yes,.
I
would
love
to
have
the
trees
stay
in
there.
Too.
the
trees
stay
in
there,
too.
but,
again,.
The
parking
is
the
but,
again,.
The
parking
is
the
main
issue,
because
as
kelly
main
issue,,
because
as
kelly
said,
with
going
around
--
said,,
with
going
around
--
going
around
the
house,
would
going
around.
The
house
would
encourage
people
to
park
on
the
encourage
people
to
park
on
the
street
more
than
it
would
in
street
more
than
it
would
in
the
parking
spots..
D
D
A
A
A
C
C
C
Generous
than
the
actual
width.,
the
public
comment
about
the
the
public
comment
about
the
trees
as
a
common
condition
as
trees
as
a
common
condition,
as
morallys
are
being
used,,
the
morallys
are
being
used,.
The
alleys
which
are
underused
is
alleys
which
are
underused
is
where
the
volunteer
trees
ended,
where
the
volunteer
trees
ended,
up.
E
C
C
C
C
C
I
mean,
that's.,
we
generally
like
a
concrete.
We
generally
like
a
concrete
apron
because
easier
to
apron
because
easier
to
maintain
and
repair,,
but
you
maintain
and
repair,,
but
you
can't
have
a
--.
You
can
have
a
can't,
have
a
--.
You
can
have
a
brick
apron,,
it
just
needs
to
brick
apron,.
It
just
needs
to
be
finished.
This
particular
w.
C
E
questions.,
just
a
couple
of
questions,
just
a
couple
of
questions.
If
you
can
readdress
the
brick,
if
you
can
readdress
the
brick
apron
and
what
your
intention
apron
and
what
your
intention
is,
if
you
are
going
to
be,
is
if
you
are
going
to
be
replacing,
what
is
there
with
replacing?
What
is
there
with
brick.
brick.
and
also,
staff
comments
again.
H
H
H
H
H
F
H
On
this
side-
and
this
side.,
I
don't
believe
we
can
add
any.
I
don't
believe
we
can
add
any
more
on
the
--.
This
would
be
more
on
the
--.
This
would
be
the
west
side.,
the
west
side.
on
the
east
side,.
We
can
look
on
the
east
side,.
We
can
look
at
possibly
adding
a
couple
at
possibly
adding
a
couple
more
over
here.
H
H
H
H
The
same
thing
on
the
west
s,
side.
side.,
there
is
currently
a
window.
There
is
currently
a
window
there
in
the
bathroom,
kitchen
there
in
the
bathroom,
kitchen
and
then
up
here
in
the
living
and
then
up
here
in
the
living
room.
You
can
add
another
window
room.
You
can
add
another
window
to
the
bang
bedroom
here,
to
the
bang,
bedroom
here,,
probably
closer
to
the
closet.
G
G
H
We
provide
dusk-to-dawn
lights.
four
in
the
back
and
two
on
four
in
the
back
and
two
on
each
side..
Each
side.
led
lights
that
are
dusk,
to
led
lights
that
are
dusk
to
dawn.
That
would
light
up
this
dawn.
That
would
light
up
this
entire
walkway.
entire
walkway.
and
then
the
four
in
the
back
and
then
the
four
in
the
back
would
light
up.
This
entire
area
would
light
up
this
entire
area
back
here.
H
H
A
Terms
of
what
we
have
heard
regarding
scale
and
massing
of
regarding
scale
and
massing
of
the
project,,
this
is
--.
This
is
the
project,.
This
is
--.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
the
pro
type
that
a
kind
of
a
the
pro
type
that
you
have
brought
forward
before
you
have
brought
forward
before
with
a
little
bit
of
tweaks
to
with
a
little
bit
of
tweaks
to
it
that
we
are
not
coming
quite
it
that
we
are
not
coming
quite
out
front.
A
A
The
appropriate
height
of
the
building.
building.,
those
were
confirmed
back.
Those
were
confirmed
back
with
staff
on
july
29.,
with
staff
on
july
29..
We
don't
have
any
busts,
we
don't
have
any
busts
there.
there.
any
other
buildings
along
the
any
other
buildings
along
the
--
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
--
in
the
neighborhood
that
are
that
scale?
that
scale?
I
am
trying
to
get
an.
H
A
H
A
A
With
that,
I
would
offer
up,
it
looks.
--
the
--,
the
first-floor
looks
--
the
--,
the
first-floor
columns,,
I
think,.
We
have
an
columns,,
I
think,.
We
have
an
opportunity,
maybe
make
them
a
opportunity,
maybe
make
them
a
little
bit
bigger
on
this
--
on
little
bit
bigger
on
this
--
on
this
iteration,.
This
final,
this
iteration,,
this
final
iteration.
iteration.,
because
I
think
that
the
--
in
because
I
think
that
the
--
in
order
to
differentiate
and
order
to
differentiate
and
distinguish
some
of
these
un
distinguish
some
of
these
un
units,.
A
A
Communities,,
you
see
different
column
spacings,,
especially
--
column
spacings,,
especially
--
and
different
column,
orders
and
different
column
orders
from
first
floor
to
second
from
first
floor
to
second
floor.
floor.
and
the
photos
that
you
show
of
and
the
photos
that
you
show
of
the
--
of
the
units
that
have
the
--
of
the
units
that
have
been
made,.
I
think
that
the
--
been
made,.
I
think
that
the
--,
the
first-floor
columns
are
the
first-floor
columns
are
coming
off
a
little
bit
out
of.
A
A
A
Particular
style.
so
an
opportunity
to
make
the
so
an
opportunity
to
make
the
last
one
a
bit
different
than
last
one
a
bit
different
than
the
first
one..
The
first
one.
was
going
to
ask
if
there
is
a
was
going
to
ask
if
there
is
a
way
to
do
a
porch
out
of
the
way
to
do
a
porch
out
of
the
back
of
the
first
floor
in
back
of
the
first
floor
in
order
to
accommodate
any
type
order
to
accommodate
any
type
of
access
or
entry
into
the
of
access
or
entry
into
the
building.
There.
A
A
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
opportunity
in
terms
of
the
opportunity
in
terms
of
the
pricing
of
the
model
that
you
pricing
of
the
model
that
you
are
doing,.
If
you
are
doing
any,
are
doing,
if
you
are
doing
any
french
doors
off
the
building
french
doors
off
the
building
similar
to
the
last
project
we
similar
to
the
last
project.
We
had
that
had
a
porch
that
came
had
that
had
a
porch
that
came
off
there,
that
wouldn't
off
there
that
wouldn't
necessarily
solve
the.
A
H
H
We
are
not
using
any
the
alleyway
as
part
of
our
back-up
alleyway
as
part
of
our
back-up
space.
space..
That
is
still
gives
us
a
that
is
still
gives
us
a
tremendous
amount
of
green
tremendous
amount
of
green
space
here
between
the
parking
space
here
between
the
parking
and
the
building
and
as
well
as.
H
A
A
H
H
H
A
E
E
E
E
E
E
He
developed
a
wonderful
sort
of
pattern
book
for
your
of
pattern
book
for
your
project.
project.,
and
I
think
it
is
time
to
start,
and
I
think
it
is
time
to
start
--,
as
you
mentioned,
to
start
--,
as
you
mentioned,
to
start
distinguishing
a
little
bit
distinguishing
a
little
bit
between
them.
between
them.,
particularly
with
the
railing,
particularly
with
the
railing
design.
design.,
not
--.
I
won't
address
it
for
not
--.
I
won't
address
it
for
this
particular
project,,
but
this
particular
project,,
but
there
is
a
rich
variety
of
w.
E
A
slight
variation
of
the
decorative
aspect
of
the
decorative
aspect
of
the
railing.
railing..
That
is
my
comment
in
terms
of
that
is
my
comment
in
terms
of
the
scale.,
the
scale.,
I
wouldn't
mind
seeing
it
in,
I
wouldn't
mind,
seeing
it
in
more
slender
and
deeper
or
more
slender
and
deeper
or
maybe
altering
the
porch.,
maybe
altering
the
porch.,
but
we
can
open
it
up
for,
but
we
can
open
it
up
for
discussion.
discussion.
in
terms
of
the
front
yard
and
in
terms
of
the
front
yard
and
the
access.,
the
access..
E
E
The
rear
access
sidewalk,
all
the
way
to
the
sidewalk,
all
the
way
to
the
front,,
because
it
starts
to
front,,
because
it
starts
to
really
encroach
on
the
amount
really
encroach
on
the
amount
of
green
space
in
the
front
of
green
space
in
the
front
yard,
and
you
are
not
yard,
and
you
are
not
encouraging
the
public
to
go,
encouraging
the
public
to
go
from
the
site
to
the
back
of
from
the
site
to
the
back
of
the
property.,
the
property..
So
perhaps
I
would
suggest
that
so
perhaps
I
would
suggest
that
you
come
across.
E
You
already
come
across
to
meet
the
first
--
if
you
came
across
the
first
--
if
you
came
across
to
meet
the
second
unit,
access
to
meet
the
second
unit
access
and
then
eliminate
the
sidewalk
and
then
eliminate
the
sidewalk
to
the
front.
to
the
front..
That
would
be
more
in
keeping
that
would
be
more
in
keeping
with
the
patterns
we
see
and
with
the
patterns
we
see
and
would
preserve.
E
E
G
I
tend
to
agree
to
jose's
comments
that
he
just
issued
comments
that
he
just
issued
and
I
want
to
address
that,
of,
and
I
want
to
address,
that,
of
course,
being
in
tampa,.
We
love
course,
being
in
tampa,.
We
love
our
trees
as
well,,
but
one
of
our
trees
as
well,,
but
one
of
the
situations
where
the
the
situations
where
the
applicant
is
improving.
The
applicant
is
improving
the
alley
and
there
is
a
balance
to
alley
and
there
is
a
balance
to
strike
there.
strike.
There.
G
and
given
your
concerns,,
we
and
given
your
concerns,,
we
heard
about
parking
as
well.
heard
about
parking
as
well..
We
want
to
make
parking
as
we
want
to
make
parking
as
pleasant
as
possible
for
this
pleasant
as
possible
for
this
new
project,
especially
if
the
new
project,
especially
if
the
massing
of
scale
are
to
be
what.
G
was
presented
here
today..
I
think
it
would
be
nice
if
I
think
it
would
be
nice
if
some
other
massing
is
some
other
massing
is
considered,
but
once
again
kind
considered,
but
once
again
kind
of
a
comment.
of
a
comment..
If
we
were
to
consider
the
if
we
were
to
consider
the
massing
as
well,
the
floorplan
massing
as
well,,
the
floorplan
would
be
changed
and
we
can
would
be
changed
and
we
can
kind
of
--.
It
would
be
a
kind
of
--.
G
A
A
A
You
have
bathroom,
bathroom,,
bedroom,
bedroom.,
bedroom,
bedroom.,
you
have
small
windows
that
you
have
small
windows
that
will
go
across
to
accommodate,
will
go
across
to
accommodate
the
headboard
and
have
that
the
headboard
and
have
that
match
along
the
facade,
and
match
along
the
facade,
and
break
it.
Up.
A
break
it.
Up.
there
are
opportunities
to.
There
are
opportunities
to
identify
what
is
going
on
identify
what
is
going
on
behind
the
walls
with
the
types
behind
the
walls
with
the
types
of
windows
but
kind
of
break
up
of
windows,
but
kind
of
break
up
that
massing.
that
massing.,
you
know
you
have
--,
we
have.
A
A
the
unit,,
making
it
deeper..
You
know
the
challenge
for
the
you
know.
The
challenge
for
the
applicant
would
be
that
is
a
applicant
would
be.
That
is
a
particular
model
that
they
h
particular
model
that
they
h
have.
have.,
and
it
is
a
certain
number
of-
and
it
is
a
certain
number
of
square
footage
that
is
square
footage
that
is
designed.
designed..
A
A
The
walkway
forward
of
unit
around
the
front,
much
more
--,
I
around
the
front,
much
more
--.
I
really
like
that
idea
as
really
like
that
idea,
as
presented
with
the
project.
presented
with
the
project.,
but
you
shrink
the
unit
--.
If,
but
you
shrink
the
unit
--,
if
you
shrink
the
porch
from
three,
you
shrink
the
porch
from
three
bays
to
two
bays
and
reduce
the
bays
to
two
bays
and
reduce
the
scale
on
the
front,
that
makes
scale
on
the
front,.
That
makes
it
even
more
sense,.
I
think.
A
A
Given
--,
given
the
size
of
the
model
itself
and
the
places
model
itself
and
the
places
where
we
can
tweak
it,
you,
where
we
can
tweak
it,,
you
know,,
if
the
porch
becomes
too
know,,
if
the
porch
becomes
too
bays
and
different
column,
bays
and
different
column
structure,,
you
know,
have
the
structure,.
You
know,
have
the
opportunity
there
to
address
opportunity
there
to
address
some
of
the
scale
issue.
That's
some
of
the
scale
issue.
That's
--!
Rather
than
having
the
three.
A
E
A
Path
of
least
resistance
and
satisfy
the
scale
issue.
satisfy
the
scale
issue.
john
thompson:
right.
john
thompson:
right.,
because
--
you
know,.
We
might
because
--
you
know,.
We
might
not
get
a
chance
to
see
this
not
get
a
chance
to
see
this
unit
again.
unit
again.
and
as
a
--.
If
we
are
retiring
and
as
a
--,
if
we
are
retiring
it,,
maybe
the
porch
changes
to
it,.
Maybe
the
porch
changes
to
fit
into
the
type
of.
E
E
E
E
E
For
--
for
--
for
parking,,
which
fits
in
the
patterns
of
which
fits
in
the
patterns
of
the
historic
neighborhood.,
the
historic
neighborhood..
It
is
a
shame
that
sometimes
we,
it
is
a
shame
that
sometimes
we
remove
tree.
That's
aren't
remove
tree.
That's
aren't
protected
by
our
--,
our
city,
protected
by
our
--,
our
city,
codes.
E
Properties
are
to
also
utilize.,
I
think,
with
the
infill
lots,,
I
think,
with
the
infill
lots,
to
me.
It
emphasizes
the
to
me.
It
emphasizes
the
important
of
keeping
these
important
of
keeping
these
alleys
clear
and
viable,
alleys,
clear
and
viable,,
because
it
really
does
allow
because
it
really
does
allow
you
to
get
the
full
benefit
of
you
to
get
the
full
benefit
of
the
development
potential..
A
E
A
H
H
H
An
entry
feature
that
will
stop
below
this
window
and
the
same
below
this
window
and
the
same
thing
over
here.
That
will
stop
thing
over
here.
That
will
stop
below.
below.,
but
this
will
now
become
a,
but
this
will
now
become
a
window
kind
of
matching
that
window
kind
of
matching
that
window,
so
the
two
doors
are
window,
so
the
two
doors
are
here.
here.
in
window
comes
over,
here.
H
H
A
A
A
A
It
to
the
outer
--,
the
--
john,
if
you
can
accommodate
it
on,
if
you
can
accommodate
it
on
your
plan,,
but
the
two
accesses
your
plan,.
But
the
two
accesses
to
the
unit
would
be
on.
The
two
to
the
unit
would
be
on
the
two
bays
that
are
to
the
--
to
the
bays
that
are
to
the
--
to
the
east
of
the
unit
and
your
po.
A
A
A
reversing
these
two
windows.
you
take
that
configuration
you
take
that
configuration
on
the
first
and
second
floor
on
the
first
and
second
floor
and
flip
it
to
where
your
and
flip
it
to
where
your
access
into
the
first
floor
and
access
into
the
first
floor
and
from
the
second
floor
to
the
from
the
second
floor
to
the
porch
was
now
in
the
mid
bay.
A
Where
the
eight-foot
depth
is
the
first
two
bays
and
you
have
the
first
two
bays
and
you
have
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room
between
the
next
property,
and
between
the
next
property,,
and
you
would
have
the
opportunity
you
would
have
the
opportunity
for
big
windows
and
other
for
big
windows
and
other
landscape
elements
to
kind
of
landscape
elements
to
kind
of
bring
down
the
scale.
So
we.
A
A
H
Hear
as
part
of
a
motion?
something
that
sets
you
back,
something
that
sets
you
back
too
far?
too
far?
no,,
I
mean
--,
I
actually
no,,
I
mean
--.
I
actually
kind
of
like
that,
because
now
kind
of
like
that,
because
now
--,
so
this
door
is
coming
over
--.
So
this
door
is
coming
over
here.
here..
These
two
doors
are
coming
over.
H
A
A
A
A
Over
the
porches.
john
thompson:,
you
need
to
john
thompson:,
you
need
to
work
the
roof
out
there
and
I
work
the
roof
out
there
and
I
will
be
comfortable
even
will
be
comfortable.
Even
delegating
that
to
staff
is
my
delegating
that
to
staff
is
my
opinion.
opinion..
We
would
see
where
the
motion
we
would
see
where
the
motion
would
go.
A
H
H
A
C
Porch
not
a
whole
unit
which
is
easier
to
do.,
easier
to
do.
yes,
absolutely.,
yes,,
absolutely.,
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
just
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
just
before
you
close
the
public
before
you
close
the
public
hearing.
hearing.
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city,
attorney's
office.
city,
attorney's
office..
Mr.
gibbons,,
do
you
have
any
mr.
gibbons,?
Do
you
have
any
rebuttal
that
was
just
asked?
C
C
A
A
On
what
the
appropriate,
you
know,
massing
and
scale
of
the
know,
massing
and
scale
of
the
roof,
is.
roof
is..
It
is
a
porch..
It
is
a
porch..
We
are
not
asking
for
the
whole,
we
are
not
asking
for
the
whole
thing
to
be
designed
and
we
can
thing
to
be
designed
and
we
can
throw
in
here
also
the
windows.
A
The
applicant
has
indicated
they
are
comfortable
going.
They
are
comfortable,
going
three
bays
to
two.
three
bays
to
two.
and
the
rest
of
it
is
kind
of
a
and
the
rest
of
it
is
kind
of
a
scale
of
massing
and
technical
scale
of
massing
and
technical
aspect.
aspect..
I
think
that
the
--,
I
think
I
think,
that
the
--
I
think
that
ron
and
dennis
have
enough.
E
C
Do
you
want
me
to
craft
a
motion
or
does
somebody
else
motion
or
does
somebody
else
want?
To?
want
to?
levy
nguyen:
to
for
it.
levy,
nguyen:
to
for
it.
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria
pettis-mackle:
before
you
craft
your
motion,,
I
before
you
craft
your
motion,.
I
would
urge
you
to
be
as
would
urge
you
to
be
as
specific
as
possible,
so
staff
specific
as
possible,
so
staff
and
the
department
will
have
and
the
department
will
have
the
exact
guidelines
and
the
the
exact
guidelines
and
the
directions
you
would
like
them.
E
Directions
you
would
like
them
to
focus
on.
to
focus
on.,
please
be
as
specific
as
please
be
as
specific
as
possible.
possible.,
jose
gelats:,
okay,
are,
thank
jose
gelats:,
okay,
are,
thank
you.
you..
That
is
important
since
we
are.
That
is
important,
since
we
are
going
to
go
with
a
final
with
going
to
go
with
a
final
with
conditions.
conditions.
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
H
E
E
A
A
Modify
that
is
based
on
a
th,
three-bay
porch.
three-bay
porch.,
maybe
a
two-bay
porch
to
have
maybe
a
two-bay
porch
to
have
it
tall
and
skinny,
and
we
can
it
tall
and
skinny
and
we
can
defer
any
of
the
column
defer
any
of
the
column,
aesthetic
that
we
discuss
to
be
aesthetic
that
we
discuss
to
be
reviewed
in
conjunction
with
reviewed,
in
conjunction
with
the
reduction
in
bay,
size,.