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A
If
you
are
here
to
present
the
case,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
might
need
to
identify
yourself
in
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
A
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections
staff
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then
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staff
report.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
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order
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the
presentation
please
state,
and
spell
your
name
clearly
for
the
record,
if
you're
here
to
speak
for
against
the
project,
because
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments
following
public
comment,
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applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
A
A
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that
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approvals.
If
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
silence
your
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phones,
we'll
start
with
the
introduction
of
the
commissioner
starting
on
my
left
as
well.
A
Okay
in
our
packets
today
are
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
from
tuesday
january
25th.
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
their
these?
Are
there
any
comments,
any
corrections,
seeing
that
there
are
no
revisions,
the
minutes
will
stand
by
unanimous
consent.
D
I
do
have
the
january
2022
administrative
approvals
to
enter
into
the
record
I'll,
provide
those
to
the
clerk
and
also,
as
you
may
be
aware,
by
now,
we
are
scheduling
a
special
public
hearing
on
march,
the
29th
and
so
beverly
has
been
reaching
out
to
you
and
confirming
your
availability
in
order
to
kind
of
catch
up
with
our
caseloads,
we're
obviously
experiencing
a
high
level
of
applications
right
now
and
need
an
extra
day
to
to
somewhat
catch
up
with
those
responsibilities.
D
So
if
you
haven't
yet
confirmed
your
availability,
please
do
with
beverly
and
then
we'll
keep
you
advised
along
the
way
we
will
be
still
having
our
march
22nd
public
hearing
and
then
adding
to
that
with
an
additional
public
hearing
on
the
29th,
and
with
that,
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
the
disclosure
or
conflicts
of
interest
in
ex
parte
communication.
C
Good
morning
kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Will
the
commissioners
please
state
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
hearing
them
for
the
record?
Additionally,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
communications
regarding
anything
that
would
that
is
on
the
agenda?
E
Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
villam
staff
with
historic
preservation
moving
down
the
agenda
to
continuations.
We
have
one
that's
reflected
and
we're
going
to
need
a
motion
for
this
as
blc
22-72
for
the
address
of
2708
east
12th
avenue.
This
was
a
request
by
the
agent
to
continue
to
the
april
26
2022
public
hearing
at
9
00
a.m.
E
The
fourth
item
on
today's
agenda,
which
is
blc
22-59,
will
be
continued
from
today's
public
hearing
to
the
march
29th
public
hearing
2002
at
9
00
a.m,
and
if
we
could
get
a
motion
for
that,
please
2022
yes,
2022!
Yes,.
B
E
E
This
is
for
the
address
of
1919
east
fifth
avenue.
Currently
it's
a
vacant
parcel.
It
does
have
the
yc7
zoning
classification
tied
to
it,
which
zero
setbacks
on
each
of
the
side,
elevations
front
and
rear,
are
attached
to
the
zoning
classification.
You'll
see
the
modest
setbacks
on
the
site
plane
as
it
moves
forward,
and
the
request
this
morning
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction
for
a
primary
structure
with
an
attached
garage.
E
Briefly,
looking
at
the
photo
presentation
that
is
on
your
monitor,
we
start
with
the
1929
sanborn
map,
as
a
reference
to
the
pattern
in
the
historic
district
property
in
question.
Has
the
shaded
green
area
it
does
face?
Fifth
avenue
it
is
in
between
19th
street
and
20th
street
does
have
a
working
alley
behind
the
structure.
E
I
want
to
just
to
point
out
that
the
density
and
the
challenges
on
these
urban
parcels
you
look
at
in
1929.
You
see
the
primary
structures,
the
detached
or
the
attached
garages,
and
then
you
know
additional
dwelling
units
you'll
just
look
at
the
form
here.
Some
of
the
accessory
structures
are
detached,
as
indicated
where
my
cursor
is
at
and
then
some
of
them
are
attached.
E
E
E
E
E
E
And
this
is
across
the
street
as
well.
You
have
some
non-contributing
structures
this
one
here
and
this
one
here
and
this
this
will
be
your
last
case
that
you're
going
to
see
today,
but
this
was
new
construction
behind
this
tree,
and
this
is
a
period
home,
contributing
once
again
we'll
use
this
for
setback
and
elevation
from
grade
as
the
project
moves
forward.
E
B
Ferraro,
this
is
my
girlfriend
mackenzie
mcnamara.
We
are
the
owners
of
the
lot.
G
H
Well,
this
one
just
pretty
much
shows
the
lot
line
with
with
drainage,
so
we
will
be
addressing
drainage
issues
when
we
amass
the
construction
drawings.
H
Plot
showing
the
house-
and
we
have
a
foot-
excuse
me,
two
foot
from
each.
The
body
of
the
house
is
two
foot
from
the
from
the
lot
line
and
we
have
a
16
inch
overhang.
H
Okay,
so
this
is
the
house
on
the
corner
which
I'm
going
to
call
the
wojee
witch
hou
wojewicz
house.
We
were
also
the
general
contractors
on
that
project.
You'll
see
when
we
get
to
the
elevation
of
that
house
from
an
architectural
standpoint,
we're
going
to
mimic
that
house
block
construction,
hardy
board,
siding
same
windows,
same
trim,
same
roof,
same
fascia,
same
open,
eaves,
same
exact
front,
porch,
all
the
dimensions,
the
same,
exactly
the
same,
overhang
and
and
and
dimensions
from
the
lot.
H
So
we're
not
trying
to
create
something
different.
We're
going
to
mimic.
All
of
that,
because
we
already
know
that
that's
been
approved
by
you
guys
in
the
past.
H
G
H
Okay
same
thing
in
regards
to
massing
it
was,
it
is
a
three-story
structure.
When
you
looked
at
it
from
the
front,
you
basically
saw
a
very
large
three-story
structure
straight
up.
So
with
the
help
of
ron,
we
came
up
with
an
idea
to
do
first
story,
second
story
and
then
bring
the
third
story
in
five
feet.
So
you
didn't
have
that
elongated.
Look
in
the
front.
H
And
here
you
can
see,
I
better
look
at
that
see
how
that's
that
front
is
actually
pushed
in
five
feet.
H
Another
look,
this
is
from
the
rear
and
you
can
see
where
the
back
end
we
brought
in
to
give
it
some
sort
of
a
you
know,
different
look.
H
Now
this
one
there's
a
lot
of
detail
on
this
drawing
obviously,
but
we
wanted
to
denote
everything
and
when
we
get
to
the
to
the
chris
wojwoo's
house,
you'll
see
that
we're
basically
mimicking
the
same
thing
now
heights
we're
at
37
feet
and
I
believe
the
code
is
45..
H
H
Okay,
you
can
see
the
construction
here
now.
We
know
we're
we're
all
the
way
to
the
zero
lot
line
and
we
know
that
one
day
the
church
next
door
will
probably
be
gone
and
there
will
be
another
house.
So
we
have
a
construction
that
you
know
we
tried
to
make
it
as
fireproof
as
possible.
We've
got
block,
we've
got
hardy
board,
siding
we're
going
to
be
using
fire
retardant
paint
same
that
we
use
in
the
woodrow's
house.
C
H
H
It's
exciting
same
windows,
all
throughout
three
over
one
same
corner,
trim
open
eaves
so-
and
you
can
see
here
we're
where
we
denote
that
same
stucco
on
the
stem
wall,
everything
will
be
mimicked
same
roof,
which
is
metal
v-crimp.
H
In
the
same
same
garage
door,
we're
going
to
do
we're
trying
to
make
it
easy
on
everybody,
so
that
we're
not
reinventing
the
wheel
here.
G
This
is
where
we
currently
live
diagonal
from
the
plot
right
now,.
C
G
C
G
H
Yeah,
I
mean
they're
very,
very,
I
think
they
they
blend
in
with
the
neighborhood
very
well.
I
don't
think
there
will
be
an
issue
there.
G
H
G
H
Okay,
so
in
closing,
I
think
this
house
is
going
to
add
a
nice
feature
to
the
neighborhood
in
nebor
city.
Our
company,
my
company,
is
very
pro
eboor.
We
were
the
ones
that
did
the
most
recent
remodeling
of
the
italian
club.
H
We
did
the
lion's
eye
I
just
institute
and,
as
you
saw,
we
did
the
woj's
house
and
we're
looking
forward
to
doing
this
house.
We
work
well
with
ron.
We
don't
you
know
we're
not
there
to
make
changes,
we're
there
to
comply
and
we're
there
to
do
whatever
it
is.
We
have
to
do
to
get
this
to
be
right.
A
E
E
Joe
and
his
team
came
forward,
we
looked
at
the
massing,
the
vernacular
that
they
chose
more
of
a
craftsman.
Style
leads
to
a
two-story
volume.
He
added
a
third
story
there,
so
we
talked
about
setting
that
front
facade
third
story
back
initially,
it
was
all
in
the
same
plane.
The
plans
that
I
reviewed
had
a
one
foot
setback,
and
then
this
morning
this
is
the
first
time
I
saw
two
that
they
pushed
it
back.
I
believe
five
foot
so
they're
working
with
us
to
break
that
massing
down
so
from
the
street.
E
In
the
perspective,
the
volume
that
you
engage
with
is
more
of
a
two-story
right
now,
there's
raw
land
to
the
west.
We
have
some
applications
that
are
coming
forward,
that
that
empty
parcels
will
be
built
up.
So
the
view
from
the
side
will
be
some
somewhere
obscured
in
the
future,
but
they
are
working
to
break
down
the
massing.
Our
main
concern
why
they
received
the
inconsistent
review
was
because
of
the
massing
that
was
in
the
same
plane,
so
that
has
been
addressed
this
morning.
E
I
believe
a
little
more
discussion
needs
to
take
place
on
the
setback
with
numbers
put
into
the
record
from
from
the
property
line
to
to
the
body
of
the
building,
whatever
that
is,
needs
to
be
indicated
and
reviewed
this
morning
and
then
elevation
from
grades,
so
there's
some
historic
references
around
there
and
put
that
into
the
record
as
well.
E
The
third
bullet
item
is
for
consistency
or
compliance
with
the
building
code.
As
I
entered
into
this
review
through
the
photo
presentation,
I
showed
that
this
was
a
yc7
zoning
classification
which
zero
setbacks
for
the
side
can
be
accomplished,
but
it
also
has
to
meet
building
code
and
fire
separation,
so
this
is
just
to
alert
them
early
on
that
they're
going
to
have
to
have
that
fire
rating.
E
E
He
had
mentioned
through
the
presentation,
a
prior
project
that
was
approved
that
will
match,
I
believe,
for
the
record
as
well,
that
it
needs
to
be
entered
into
the
record,
so
go
from
the
ridge
all
the
way
to
the
foundation
and
talk
about
the
materials.
If
you
have
illustrations
or
photos
to
show,
it
would
be
important
to
show
it
at
this
time
as
well.
E
I'm
going
down
my
list
here
for
a
minute,
as
indicated,
yc7
allows
for
a
45
foot
in
height
they're,
going
to
37.
They
are
not
trying
to
exercise
the
total
entitlements
that
they
have
at
that
at
that
property
touch
upon
the
foundation
a
little
bit
as
you
go
around
the
side.
I
know
that
the
the
and,
if
you
have
a
wall
section
of
the
side
as
well,
I
think
you
have
multiple
wall
sections
run
through
your
wall
sections
completely
and
then
talk
about
the
trim
around
the
windows
and
how
you
wish
to
accomplish
that.
E
This
is
block
construction,
correct,
correct
all
the
floors,
all
the
way,
all
the
way
out
here.
That
concludes
my
portion
of
the
staff
report
and
I'll,
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
A
C
C
C
B
B
H
The
top
the
roof
portion
of
the
top
is
a
metal
five
inch
v-cramp
roof.
Then,
as
we
work
our
way
down,
let's
start
with
the
actual
skeleton.
It's
a
block
structure
that
has
been
furred
out
and
then
we've
added
a
party
board
siding
smooth.
H
The
trim
on
the
windows
is
a
is
a
one
by
six
trim
and
we
made
we
made
it
consistent
with
what
the
neighborhood
bore
back
in
the
day
open,
eaves
once
again
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
as
it
born
back
of
the
day.
The
you'll
see
the
the
railing
system
on
the
second
floor,
you'll
see
the
railing
system.
H
On
the
first
floor,
you'll
see
the
columns
you'll
see
the
I'll
call
it
a
stem
wall,
that's
stuccoed
sand,
finish,
stucco
see
the
stairway,
the
width
of
the
porch,
all
of
that
was
approved
in
2016,
and
we're
going
to
stick
with
that
same
architecture,
because
it
basically
mimics
what
the
neighborhood
bore
back
in
the
day,
all
the
materials
are
composite
were
approved
or
not
approved,
and
we
used
wood.
H
Windows:
three
over
one,
okay
set
back
with
a
return,
so
it's
the
corner,
trim
everything
which
we
we
basically
mimicked.
What
we
thought
the
neighborhood
bore.
You
know
back
in
the
day.
B
Thank
you
and
then
could
you
talk
about
the
window
and
door
trims
around
the
house
as
well?
I'm
sorry
the
window
and
door
trims
around
the
around
the
house
and
how
they
were
constructed
window
and
door
trims.
H
Oh
the
window,
the
window
and
door
trim.
It's
it's
a
one
by
six.
I
believe
it's
hardy
material,
which
is
composite
and
it's
kind
of
got
a
little
return.
We
did
the
trim
to
mimic
turn
of
the
century.
What
it
looked
like
back
in
the
day.
H
Yeah,
well,
you
can
see
the
the
band
between
the
second
and
the
and
then
in
the
case
of
this
home,
there'll
be
two
bands
because
there's
three
stories
as
opposed
to
two:
even
you
can't
see
it,
but
on
the
other
side
of
this
structure,
there's
a
pool-
and
we
went
as
far
as
handmade
the
screen
enclosure
by
wood.
So
we
didn't
have
aluminum.
We
tried
to
mimic
what
you
know.
What
would
be
part
of
the
day
back
then
and
believe
me
that
wasn't
easy.
B
H
There
you
go
so
if
the
porch
would
be
identical,
the
columns
are
identical.
All
of
that
stucco
you
see
the
stem
wall
surrounding
it.
That's
identical
the
railing
systems
both
second
and
first
floor
are
exactly
identical.
Exactly
identical
windows,
identical
trim,
see
the
door
three
over
one
to
mimic
the
windows
three
over
one.
The
roof
will
be
the
same
also,
which
I
think
you're
gonna
like.
Is
that
we're
doing
the
half
round
gutter
system
with
a
round
downspout
which
we
did
on
the
lion's
eye
institute?
It
came
out
very,
very
nice,
so.
B
B
And
then
just
the
one
thing
is
from
the,
I
believe,
the
plans,
so
the
condensing
units
are
going
to
be
above
the
garage
is
that
correct,
yeah
right
on
that
on
the
right
directly
above
the
garage
they'll,
be
the.
C
The
three
units
uac
units.
C
C
H
E
If
I
could
elaborate
on
that,
when
there's
a
short
transition
from
an
alley
to
the
entrance,
it's
very
difficult
to
have
the
the
turning
radius
to
stay
on
those
ribbons.
So
what
happens
the
car
kind
of
drifts
off
the
ribbons
and
then
they
end
up
putting
a
different
material
in
between
the
ribbons
anyway?
Okay,
so
there
is,
there
is
a
small
void
from
the
alley
to
what
they
showed
on
their
site
plan,
so
whatever
material
that
is
just
continue
to
the
connection
to
the
alley.
A
Okay,
so
where
are
the
adjacent
structures
on
this
I'm
trying
to
get
a
better
handle
on
how
you
came
up
with
your
front
setback.
A
H
H
Once
again
we
went
we,
we
went
to
code,
we
went
to
look
to
the
wojowicz
house
that
we
already
did
prior
right
right
and
that's
we
just
mimicked
it.
We
didn't
want
to
upset
the
apple
cart.
Just
did
what
we
already
knew
would
pass.
A
H
A
Yeah
for
the
porch
or
the
majority
of
the
house,
all
the
setbacks
are
determined
from
a
historical
standard
that
is
averaged
over
your
block.
So
whether
you
have
a
precedent
of
the
void
of
etch
house
or
the
adjacent
church
or
another
structure
on
your
block,
there's
no
documentation
to
indicate
how
far
back
your
house
is
set.
A
Well,
I
mean
you,
you
have
a
nice
presentation,
but
there's
a
lot
of
specific
information
that
we're
looking
for
in
order
to
position
the
house
appropriately
on
the
site
and
that
documentation
is
lacking.
You've
shown
us
that
an
adjacent
project
and
say
it's
going
to
match
exactly
well.
We
don't
know
what
that
really
means.
So
I
get
the
intent
from
the
design
intent.
A
C
To
see,
I
think
it
says,
12
inches
he's
sorry
we're
trying
to
pull
up
the
the
plants
from
the
corner.
A
A
A
H
I
I
can't
I
don't
want
to
just
make
up
a
figure.
I
can
take
an
educated
assumption
here
that
basically
go
back
to
yours,
we're
seven
foot
away
on
the
porch
or
the
porch
is
seven
foot.
H
E
In
the
past
that
information
was
presented
to
staff,
they
show
the
historic
fabric
within
that
block.
They
have
a
structure,
that's
a
contributing
structure
to
the
east.
It's
very
easy
to
to.
You
know,
provide
that
information
to
us,
and
then
they
do
have
the
house
that
they
continue
to
reference.
It's
not
a
historic
home,
but
that
pattern
was
established
and
the
historic
pattern
was
established
and
then
the
discussion
to
approve
that
structure,
the
setback
was
consistent.
Then,
across
the
street
there
is
some
historic
fabric
as
well.
E
It
is
reduced
the
as
I
try
to
allude
the
zoning
as
yc7,
which
is
zero,
but
the
historic
pattern
would
take
precedent
over
that,
so
that
those
numbers
should
be
delicate
or
presented
to
staff.
So
we
could
have
whatever
that
averaging
is.
They
should
be
in
line
with
the
fabric
established
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
E
A
E
A
A
Let's
see,
let's
go
to,
let's
go
to
your
elevations.
A
H
H
H
I
realize
that
for
the
purposes
of
this
board,
we're
worried
about
exterior,
but
we
have
to
have
some
sort
of
you
know
coherence
with
the
interior
as
well,
so
we
pushed
it
back
as
far
back
as
we
could,
and
yet
it
still
made
sense
from
the
interior,
because
we
have
an
elevator
we're
dealing
with
again
there's
all
sorts
of
of
issues.
A
There's
no
historic
precedent
that
you
saw,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
pitchers
that
you
showed
us
were
actually
two-story
structures.
You
claiming
you
know
they
might
have
a
window
up
there
and
they
may
look
like
a
third
story.
They
might
be
a
loft
but
they're,
really
not
third
stories
and
some
of
the
pitchers
that
you
showed
us
like
1611,
east
fifth
avenue,
which
is
a
town
home.
They
set
back
that
third
story.
H
G
There
was
not
a
set
step
back,
but
from
the
interior
just
to
kind
of
comply
with
still
using
that
third
floor
space.
Okay,
there's
there's
a
loft.
A
G
C
H
A
Yeah,
I
think
a
lot
of
those
portions
that
you
see
in
there
are
five
feet,
which
is
a
little
too
narrow.
I
think
that's
you
know
realistic
to
make
that
deeper.
So
really
I
mean,
if
you're
talking
two
foot
off
the
front
sidewalk
then
you've
got
a
seven
foot
porch.
There
then
you're
set
back
so
you're,
not
you're,
really
putting
it
back
from
the
street
line.
12
feet
there.
So
let's
go
back
to
the
first
floor
plan.
If
you
will.
A
G
A
C
A
A
I
think
you
know,
typically,
I
think,
in
a
historic
structure
or
any
project
in
general,
if
you're
changing
use
from
a
living
area
to
a
garage,
that's
where
you
make
the
transition
and
then
that
translates
up.
You
know,
I
think
you
identify
the
massing
for
what
the
function
is
inside
right,
so
just
kind
of
a
random
move,
and
I
didn't
understand
if
there
was
some
kind
of
justification
for
making
that
move.
A
And
you
guys
said:
you're
yeah,
two
foot
setback
on
either
side.
You
got
a
16
inch
overhang,
so
that
leaves
you
what
six
eight
inches
if
you've
got
gutters
so
you're
now
you're
down
to
like
four
inches
to
your
property
line.
A
Okay,
I
think
one
of
the
photos
I
saw
was,
you
know,
looks
like
the
rafter
tails,
for
the
void
of
edge
house
kind
of
you
know
are
pretty
close
to
the
alley,
so
I
have
a
concern
with
the
house
being
that
close
to
the
side
yards
with
the
setbacks.
H
Well,
once
again,
we
just
mimic
what
was
already
approved
prior
in
the
woodrow,
it's
house,
we
didn't.
A
A
Application,
so
I'm
just
making
sure
I
understand
what
you're
doing,
because
we're
you're
kind
of
entering
into
the
records
like.
Oh,
it's
going
to
look
like
this,
but
it
looks
nothing
like
that.
You
may
have
the
same
construction
types
and
materials
and
windows
and
doors,
but
the
massing
is
completely
different
and
that's
what
we're
reviewing
here
is
what
the
masking
is.
What
the
intent
of
your
plan
is
to
construct
a
house
in
the
historic
district,
so.
A
Okay:
let's
go
to
the
front
elevation.
A
All
right
so
here's
an
example
like
on
this
you're,
showing
your
your
windows
three
or
three
over
ones
right,
but
then
on
the
and
you
show
your
window
trim
and
I
think
you've
entered
into
the
record
what
that
window
trim
is
going
to
be,
but
their
window
trim
on
the
voidovich
house
is
completely
different
from
what
you're
presenting
here
not
completely
different
but
different
with
the
with
the
trams
and
the
in
the
sill.
So
the
sill
is
different.
A
I
don't
think
we
want
gas
lights
or
lamps
on
any
of
the
front
columns.
Those
need
to
be
back
on
the
house
or
underneath
on
the
soffit.
A
Okay,
let's
go
back
to
the
and
I'm
okay
with
you
know
the
stucco,
I
think,
looks
fine
here,
the
columns.
You
know
I
could
see
your
precedent
of
what
you're
you're
calling
in
there.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
it
kind
of
this
part
right
here
where
it
transitions
to
the
garage
kind
of
it's
like
that
break
needs
to
happen
right
here,
because
then,
then
you
differentiate
what
the
house
is.
C
A
A
A
C
H
A
I
think
you
know
you're,
looking
at
your
two
different
forms
and
you're
asking
us
to
consider
the
massing
here
and
there's
a
you
know,
just
it
adds
another
form
to
the
masking
that
I
think
we're
trying
to
simplify
and
make
this
a
little
bit
more
consistent.
I
think
that
you
know
the
gesture
of
you
know
the
five
foot
setback
of
the
third
floor.
A
I
think
five
foot's
decent,
you
know,
I
mean
it's
better
than
the
foot
that
they
showed
before.
Maybe
I
you
know,
maybe
it
should
be
another
couple
feet,
but
five
feet,
I
think,
is
that's
what
you've
talked
with
staff,
so
I
think
everything's
good
with
that.
But
if
we
can
align
that
in
your
side
yard
setback,
I
mean
it
does
a
number
of
things
for
you.
It
aligns
your
gutters.
A
It
brings
all
your
trim
back
in
and
it
differentiates
you
know
you
have
your
garage
separate
from
the
house,
your
house
and
then
you,
I
think
it's
at
your
screen,
porch
or
enclosed,
like
a
view
garden
or
anything,
bring
that
back
in
that
might
give
you
a
little
bit
more
room
for
your
ac
units
there.
So
I
think
it's
more
trying
to
make
that
sort
of
easy.
A
A
E
E
A
A
H
Be
in
white,
yes,
so
it'll
be
white
as
well.
So
it's
not
gonna.
A
What's
your
transition,
you're
gonna
do
stucco
at
the
at
the
at
the
retaining
wall
at
the
stem
wall,
so
that'll
match
your
your
stucco
on
the
front
porch.
Your
whole
entry
is
all
stuck
up.
Okay,
basically.
A
So
how
are
you
gonna-
and
I
think
I
saw
some
detail
on
this-
where
that
decorative
trim
is
gonna,
follow
your
finished
floors
right.
So
what
what's
your
side
treatment
for
this
roofing
and
maybe
the
elevate,
the
side,
elevation
or
model,
maybe
a
little
bit
better?
I
thought
I
saw
is
that
you're
just
going
to
continue
the
cladding
into
there
trim
out
the
the
sides
yeah
go
to
the
massing
model.
A
A
A
You
all
right
you've
got
a
few
minutes
before
we
close
the
public
hearing.
If
you
want
to
summarize,
I
think
we've
made
some
suggestions.
I
mean
if
you
want
to
say
that
you're
into
certain
you
know.
If
you're,
you
know
some
of
the
changes
that
we
talked
about,
if
you're
open
to
that,
but
we're
going
to
ask
you
for
final
confirmation
of
any
changes
to
the
project
before
a
motion.
C
Miss
walsh
did
you
have
any
questions?
No
okay,.
H
So,
yes,
we're
open
to
all
the
changes
we're
going
to
implement
the
changes
we
actually
like
the
change
of
moving
the
the
third
story.
Back,
it's
a
great
change
for
us,
we're
we're
open
to
all
of
those.
C
Very
excited
to
we're
we're
in
eborn.
Now
we
we
we
appreciate,
we
appreciate
the
area
currently
as
well
as
what
it's
going
to
be,
so
we're
both
very
excited.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time,.
A
A
C
Concern
is
the
front
elevation
and
the
three
windows
you
know
they
showed
all
these
three
story
with
the
loft
on
the
top.
I
think
they
should
try
to
do
something
similar
to
that,
maybe
just
one
big
window
in
the
center
or
something
try
to
mimic
that
maybe
lower
it
more
just
to
look
like
what
some
of
the
samples
that
they
were
showing,
because
if
just
reading
as
a
three
story,
I
I
don't
know
if
you
can
put
up
the
front
elevation.
Maybe
we
can
take
a
look
at
it.
C
That's
my
only
comment
right
yeah.
You
look
at
those
samples
like
that
or
there's
a
better
one,
keep
going
yep
that
one.
A
We're
gonna
we're
the
public
hearing's
closed,
so
we're
just
discussing
the
case
we
asked
for
for
some
visuals,
but
we
have
to
reopen
that
if
we
want
to
make
some
more
comments
and
we'll
we'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
talk
at
the
at
the
end
here.
C
I
think
that's
that's
even.
A
C
C
Miss
welch.
Can
you
please
turn
on
your
microphone
thanks?
If
you
look
at
at
the
example
house,
they've
got
two
windows
in
front
side
by
right
next
to
each
other,
giving
that
bigger
window
impression
versus
this
one
has
separate
windows:
okay,.
B
I
like
that,
and
it's
part
of
the
I
think
they
kind
of
box
themselves
in
like
going
straight
in
for
a
craftsman,
style
house
and
then
kind
of
having
limiting
the
lot
size
is
limiting
right.
So
you
want
to
go
three
stories
and
that
kind
of
limited
them
right
at
the
back
and
you
kind
of
a
craftsman
style
into
a
story
build.
But
I
think
that
that's
a
good
suggestion
we
just
maybe
like
you'll-
have
to
lower
the
pitch
of
that
front.
B
B
In
that
sense,
I,
like
rich's
idea
of
pushing
out
the
back
of
the
the
back
of
the
third
story
as
well.
Obviously,
it
gives
them
more
square
footage,
so
I'm
sure
they're
happy
about
that
as
well,
and
I
think
you
can
just
take
and
I
think
they
could
even
take
the
the
less
restrictive
of
the
you
know
how
you
set
it
back
into
the
garage
right.
B
You
push
the
other
one
further
out
as
well
and
just
kind
of
line
everything
up
and
make
everything
symmetrical
that
way
so
natural
as
well,
because
the
whole
house
is
symmetrical
as
well.
It
has
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
detail
that
you
can
kind
of
fix
up
there
as
well
and
just
make
it
along
the
other
side
with
whatever
bathroom
restriction
you
had,
or
that
was
kind
of
limiting
one
side
or
the
other
yeah
later,
but
other
than
that.
B
Yes,
I
think
for
the
restrictions
they
had
taken,
the
craftsman
style.
You
know
they
kind
of
had
an
example
and
it
stuck
to
it-
and
you
know
you
kind
of
take
it
where
it
is
and
sort
of
you
know
as
best
that
craftsmanship
can
be
and
sort
of
just
three-story
application.
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
that
was
a
good
move
for
like
taking
that
third
story-
five
feet,
I
would
have
liked
to
see
it
a
little
bit
more.
You
know,
and
I
think,
there's
more
things
that
they
could
play
with
with
that
third
floor,
you
know
pushing
it
back,
so
you
have
your
main
house
and
you
have
your
garage
and
then,
if
you
want
to
do
a
sunroom
on
part
of
it,
you
can
do
that,
but
it
all
should
align
there.
A
So
I
think,
there's
still
some
more
design
work
and
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
get
comfortable
is
that
something
that
we
could
you
know,
designate
the
staff
to
work
with
them
on,
because
I
think
the
presentation's
pretty
loose,
I
mean
as
far
as
what
you
guys
want
to
do.
I
mean
they.
They
asked
us
to
say:
okay,
this
is
we're
copying
the
voidevent
house,
and
this
is
what
we're
doing
and
take
our
word
for
it,
and
that's
not
what
we're
here
for
so.
A
I
think
your
project,
you
know,
probably
needed
some
more
documentation,
things
that
the
staff
were
asking
you
to
do
is
probably
you
know
most
of
it.
I
think
we're
addressed
with
some
issues
on
the
drawings
we're
not
so,
but
I
think,
though
you
know
the
general.
The
window
pattern
works.
The
hype,
the
massing
works,
I'd
like
to
you
know,
get
a
little
bit
more
detail,
but
I
think
we
can
work
with
staff
on
getting
that
setback
set
to
the
historic
precedent,
the
massing
by
bringing
that
third
story
back
adjusts.
A
You
know,
I
think
we
need
to
get
our
hands
around,
that
you
know
real
estate's,
obviously
getting
more
expensive,
so
we're
gonna
optimize
the
site
as
much
as
possible.
So,
instead
of
seeing
like
two
stories,
we're
gonna
start
seeing
more
three
stories
and
just
making
sure
that
it's
done
done
right.
You
know
inappropriate
for
the
district.
C
A
Part
of
its
code,
but
part
of
its
you
know,
sign
off.
So
I
think
staff
can
work
that,
but
I
just
like
seeing
that
in
the
presentation
to
make
sure
that
they
thought
about
it
and
make
sure
that
they're
aligned
do.
We
need
to
have
additional
discussion
on
what's
going
to
happen
with
that
third
floor
and
that
alignment
back
there
or
is
that
something
that
we
feel
confident
that
staff
can
they
can
work
with
staff
on.
B
C
A
So
there's
a
few
things
that
we're
gonna
we're
talking
about
we'll
open
up
the
public
hearing
again
here
in
a
minute,
so
the
big
thing
is
obviously
shifting
that
third
story
or
that
alignment
on
the
back
with
the
garage
to
make
that
all
work.
I
think
that's
we
feel
strongly
about
that.
I
think
you
guys
are
in
general
agreement
with
that.
A
Changing
the
windows
up
on
the
second
floor,
to
making
that
two,
you
know,
make
it
more
look
like
a
loft
instead
of
a
third
story,
I
mean
we
talked
about
different
options.
You
can
bring
two
windows
together
and
there's
different
things
that
you
can
do
there,
because
I
know
you
want
to
bring
light
in
there,
no
lights
on
the
exterior
columns,
those
go
back
on
the
house
or
under
the
porch,
and
I
think
you
need
to
work
with
staff
on
making
sure
that
your
building
alignment
and
finish
floor
elevation
is
coordinated.
A
A
B
For
the
property
located
at
1919,
east
fifth
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
works
with
staff
to
ensure
that
the
setbacks
for
the
house
match
the
exist,
the
neighboring
properties
around
the
lot
to
them
to
determine
the
final
finish.
Elevation
of
the
first
floor
to
match
the
properties
around
the
lot,
as
well,
for
them
to
work
on
lowering
the
angle
of
the
shed
roof
from
the
second
to
third
story
and
making
the
windows
at
the
front.
Elevation.
B
Look
more
like
a
loft
style
lifestyle
windows
for
them
to
align
the
the
insets
at
the
garage
and
then
to
bring
the
third
story
out
to
a
line
at
the
garage
insets
as
well,
and
then
to
work
with
staff
as
well
to
determine
the
exterior
lighting
of
the
of
the
house
and
then
to
work
with
staff
for
all
the
window.
Trims
door,
trims
door,
colors
finishes
and
including
the
garage
anything
else
that
I
may
have
missed.
B
Because,
based
on
the
finding
of
the
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
ebor
city
design
lines
of
the
city
of
tampa.
For
the
following
reasons
that
it's,
let's
see,
it
conforms
with
the
height
and
width
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
similarity
of
details
and
forms
in
the
craftsman
style
for
keyboard
city.
A
Okay,
so
there's
some
conditions.
Mario
now
there's
conditions
that
you've
heard
in
matter
of
record,
make
sure
that
you
are
in
agreement
with
these
conditions.
We
are
in
alternative.
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say,
motion,
say
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
E
E
I
E
E
The
subject
site
is
on
the
north
side
of
columbus
and
between
20th
street
and
21st.
21St
is
a
one-way
street
coming
into
the
heart
of
ybor
city,
and
there
is
an
alley
that
runs
to
the
rear
of
the
property
that
will
be
accessed
to
bring
the
the
vehicles
to
the
back
of
the
subject
site
and
to
meet
city
of
tampa
code.
E
E
E
This
is
looking
at
the
parcel.
There's
two
there's
two
sites
that
we're
going
to
look
at
this
morning.
One
is
this
intermediate
parcel
and
then
the
next
application
will
be
this
corner
parcel.
So
we're
focusing
right
here.
You
see
the
alley
in
the
background
and
you
see
columbus
in
the
foreground.
E
E
E
This
is
that
one-way
street,
looking
at
the
overpass
and
as
you
get
into
eboard-
and
this
is
the
condition
of
the
alley,
so
there
is
a
small
paved
area.
As
you
come
off
of
21st
street,
the
subject
site
is
over
here.
The
fence
was
kind
of
a
reference
point.
This
is
the
a
budding
to
the
west
and
the
the
alley
is
not
totally
paved.
You
see
the
the
indication
of
where
the
fence
lines
are
at
where
the
alley
is.
E
This
has
to
be
reworked,
we're
working
with
transportation
now
to
to
get
a
final
solution
for
the
surface
material.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation.
This
time
the
agent
could
address
the
board
juan
or
elliott,.
I
I
Good
morning,
members
of
the
board,
my
name,
is
juan
quinones.
This
is
elliot
acosta.
I
We
are
agents
for
the
owner
on
this
property
and
we're
gonna
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
the
project,
starting
with
the
site
plan,
as
mentioned
before.
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can,
if
you
guys,
are
seeing
the
screen
yet
or
if
I
need
to
do
anything
else.
Am
I
in
yeah,
okay,.
I
I
Basically,
we
located
the
the
house
or
the
single
family
structure
at
a
block
average
between
all
the
rest
of
the
buildings.
On
the
same
block
our
finished
floor
elevation
is
about
30
inches
above
finish,
grade,
which
is
similar
to
the
rest
of
the
other
houses
around
the
block
on
the
same
block
facing
this
property.
I
Access
to
the
vehicular
access
will
be
from
the
alleyway
so
coming
down
from
north
21st
into
the
alley
and
then
into
our
property.
We
helped
work
with
transportation,
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
lay
out
the
driveway.
So
we
ended
up
putting
that
driver
based
on
the
recovery
recommendations
from
transportation.
I
That's
our
site:
our
setbacks
are
five
feet
from
each
side:
20
feet
from
the
rear,
that's
about
it
on
the
site
plan.
Then
let's
go
back
to
our
elevations
for
this
house.
It's
a
one
story
structure
again
about
30
inches
from
finished
grade
we're
proposing
to
have
stucco
on
this
house.
I
I
We
have
separated
the
base
from
the
building
with
a
six
inch
stucco
band
all
the
way
around.
As
you
see,
the
columns
will
be
proposing
to
have
a
stock
break
on
them,
painted
with
some
paper.
Columns
also
exposed
rafters.
I
Around
the
windows
we
are
proposing
to
do
stocko
banding,
similar
to
the
period
houses
around
there,
which
is
the
five
inch
bands
around
the
windows
and
then
the
six
inch
on
top
with
some
trimming
work,
wood,
stucco.
I
Let's
see
construction
of
the
house
will
be
all
cmu
with
a
stem
wall
again
30
the
finished
floor
will
be
30
inches
above
grade.
Finish
is
we'll
be
stucco,
we'll
have
some
exposed
rafters.
I
So
I'm
running
along
here
show
you
a
few
of
the
materials
what
they
will
be
using
we're
thinking
about
doing
just
a
period
door
fiberglass
with
one
window
on
top
and
two
kind
of
similar
to
this
picture
that
I'm
showing
you
here
for
the
windows,
there
will
be
wood,
clatter
windows
white
one
over
one
simple
and
one
thing
that
I
forgot
to
mention.
This
houses
are
for
affordable
housing,
so
we're
trying
to
keep
it
as
cost-effective
as
possible.
I
The
same
house
will
be
we're
proposing
to
use
on
the
next
slot
as
well.
I
Similar
houses
around
the
area
we
took,
you
know,
29
11,
north
11th,
fab
or
stucco.
We
got
the
stucco
columns.
You
know
stockholm
gables.
We
also
pulled
2801
with
stucco
gableland
soko
houses.
I
A
E
Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
avila
staff
with
historic
preservation
staff
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
eboor
city
design
guidelines.
We
had
some
conditions
attached
to
this
request
and
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
the
brief
list.
At
this
time.
E
The
yc2
zoning
classification
allows
for
the
setbacks
for
the
front
yard
and
the
rear
yard
to
be
at
10
and
the
size
to
be
a
three.
So
if
this
is
to
move
forward
as
presented
where
the
house
is
illustrated
on
the
site
plan,
a
design
exception
is
required
to
reduce
the
10
foot
setback
by
code
to
reduce
that
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
historic
fabric
with
all
new
construction.
E
E
E
E
The
body
of
the
structure
is
going
to
be
stucco,
and
you
know
the
the
final
design
will
be
on
site
approved
on
site.
The
columns
themselves
should
either
be
stucco.
A
scored.
Stucco
is
not
a
path
that
this
board
or
staff
has
supported
in
the
past,
so
a
smooth
column
or
or
pier
to
match
the
body
of
the
building
would
be
preferred.
E
The
banding
he
provided
some
examples
on
the
drawings.
It
shows
a
score
stucco
banding
around
the
windows
and
doors
there
is
reference
within
the
district.
There's
a
there's
a
couple
period,
homes
that
come
to
mind
that
are
made
out
of
stucco
that
have
a
traditional
material
which
is
wood
for
new
construction.
The
you
know,
the
implementation
of
a
hardy
product
would
be
a
path
that
could
be
pursued,
but
not
just
the
scoring
of
the
stucco
there.
That's
more
of
a
contemporary
design
that
that
is
foreign
to
the
district
on
the
rear
elevation.
E
E
I
don't
believe
hard
hardware
and
lighting
was
expressed
this
morning.
If
it
was,
I
missed
it
and
the
final
color
palette
at
this
time.
That
concludes
staff's
portion
and
I'll
be
able
to
answer
any
questions.
C
Hello
board
marquez
mcgee
city
of
tampa
housing
and
community
development.
This
this
slot
was
given
to
some
affordable
housing
developers
to
provide
affordable
housing
here
in
the
city
of
tampa.
These
prices
that
these
excuse
me,
the
income.
D
C
A
Were
these
dot
lots
that
were
donated
or
no
right.
C
They
were
part
of
the
infield
phase
two
project,
so
they
were
economic
remainder,
lots
that
were
bought
by
the
city
years
and
years
ago,
okay
and
now
developed.
Thank.
A
A
Any
other
public
comment
seeing
none
we'll
go.
We
can
now
ask
the
applicant
questions.
C
I
think
my
only
comment
or
question
would
be:
why
was
the
the
rear
gable
not
addressed
like
the
front?
I
see
a
note
in
here
that
to
look
at
maybe
adding
some
vent
cables
just
curious.
Why.
I
Absolutely
we
can
certainly
add
some
bent
cables
to
either
side
of
this
building.
I
We
didn't
not
address
that
we're
trying
to
keep
it
as
simple
as
possible
on
this,
but
we
can
definitely
add
a
few
vents
to
those
cables
and
then
maybe
perhaps
some
trimming
work
on
the
rear
gable
absolutely
and
we
can
work
directly
with
you
know
the
staff
to
make
that
work
for
them.
I
B
And
do
you
have
any
information
on
any
sort
of
exterior
lighting
for
these
houses.
B
I
B
I
So
it's
columbus
and
then
21st
street
on
the
east
side
alley
on
the
rear.
The
house
is
set
back
about
13
feet,
that's
the
block
average.
In
that
area.
You
got
the
steps
in
front
of
the
building,
that's
the
main
porch
and
then
the
house
starts
from
here
all
the
way
back
to
there
with
a
20-foot
setback.
I
We
also
located
the
ac
pad
behind
the
building.
So
you
don't
see
it
on
from
the
street
and
we
also
have
the
rear
porch,
with
steps
leading
to
a
little
concrete
sidewalk
that
leads
back
to
the
concrete
driveway
in
the
back.
I
C
A
We
can
go
back
to.
Can
you
go
back
to
the.
A
E
The
exposed
rafter
tails,
the
half
round
gutters
are
much
more
sensitive
so
that
character
defining
feature
reads
down
down
the
side
of
the
house.
So
I
would
you
know,
investigate
putting
the
half
round
gutters,
okay,
okay,.
H
A
I
A
We're
just
going
to
paint
out
a
different
color
trim.
You
know,
trim
color,
I
think
that's
a
good
improvement,
the
the
shaker
siding,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
a
great
application
or
I'd
almost
rather
just
see
flat
stock
hardy
board
going
across
okay.
I
A
You
know
you
were
also
talking
about
adding
a
gable
vent
there,
which
I
think
is
a
nice
detail.
You've
already
got
the
brackets
in
there,
but
they
get
kind
of
lost
in
the
drawing.
So
I
think
a
little
gable
bent,
maybe
some
party
board
trim
just
flat
stock,
would
look
a
little
bit
nicer
and
same
thing
for
the
rear
elevation
on
the
rear
elevation.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
a
decorative
column
back
there,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
go
to
stucco.
A
A
So
no
stucco
there
materials,
gables
wood
cloud
windows
great
and
I
think
I
think
it's
a
nice
nice
little
project,
I
think
that's
appropriate
for
the
proportions
and
the
overhangs
and
everything
the
shingles
I'd
say.
We
need
to
work
with
staff
to
get
that
approved
for
a
color.
That's
you
know
apparent
in
the
in
the
district
with
same
with
hardware,
lighting
finishes:
shingles
stucco
pattern
has
rod
alluded
to
so
all
that
kind
of
works
with
a
staff
approval.
A
D
Hi,
mr
chair,
yes,
sir,
I
do
want
to
add
just
a
couple
of
suggestions,
just
in
kind
of
understanding
the
project
a
little
better
after
the
presentation,
this
being
affordable,
housing
and
obviously
being
a
priority
for
the
mayor's
goals.
We
do
want
to
meet
the
design
guidelines,
but
still
be
able
to
stay
within
economic
constraints
that
obviously
are
exasperated
with
the
current
real
estate
market.
D
I'd
like
a
little
flexibility
to
work
with
the
applicants.
I
think
the
window
that
they
showed
was
a
very
nice
window,
but
we
have
been
approving
all
vinyl
windows
that
have
historic
dimensions,
which
would,
I
think,
be
a
savings
to
them.
We
could
you
know
kind
of
redistribute,
maybe
the
budgetary
items
to
the
gable
ends
or
some
of
those
additional
materials
that
we
were
talking
about.
D
I
also
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
simplify
that
column
on
the
rear
porch
to
bring
it
into
just
a
more
you
know:
basic
reference
without
having
to
be
a
full
blown
peer
and
column
detail.
So,
just
as
you're
forming
your
motion,
if
you
would
allow
the
staff
some
latitude
in
those
areas,
I
think
we
can
kind
of
improve
the
project
aesthetically
and
still
keep
it
within
the
budgetary
constraints
that
we
have.
A
A
Okay,
so
you've
heard
our
comments,
we're
going
to
go
ahead.
You
have
a
few
minutes
to
summarize
any
comments
or
questions
that
you
have
and
then
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing.
After
that
I.
I
A
B
Like
you
mentioned
that
it's
affordable
housing,
so
obviously
very
budget
is
the
utmost
concern
and
for
what
it
is
it's
you
know
very
well.
Proportioned,
like
you
said
layout,
is
nice
and
matches
the
historic
context,
so
good
job.
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
applicant
did
a
real
nice
job
with
this
project.
You
know
it's
certainly
appropriate
for
the
district
given
affordable
housing.
I
think
we
all
need
more
of
that
around
these
these
parts
these
days
so-
and
we
know
that's
an
important
issue
for
the
mayor.
So
it's
a
big
push
right
now,
but
I
like
the
project-
and
I
think
it's
well
detailed
and
I
think,
there's
a
few
things
to
work
out
with
staff
as
you
can
do
in
the
field
and
we
can
entertain
emotions.
B
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
do
a
final
approval
with
conditions
so
move
to
granted
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
boc
22-39,
you
could
switch
back
for
the
property
located
at
2022
east
columbus
drive
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
works
with
staff
to
finalize
the
gable
designs,
both
at
the
front
of
the
rear,
whether
it's
adding
vents
or
using
hearty
trim
board
or
something
instead
to
to
make
that
fit
within
the
horse.
B
Historic
context,
a
little
better
for
them
to
remove
the
stucco
brick
pattern
and
instead
work
with
staff
to
do
a
smooth,
stucco
finish-
and
you
know
pick
out
the
final
color
palette
for
the
exterior
of
the
house
that
you
have
to
leave
away
with
staff
to
potentially
use
vinyl
windows
instead
of
the
wood,
clad
windows
and
potentially
to
simplify
the
rear
column
as
well.
B
B
Oh
yeah
and
using
binder
windows,
of
course,
to
make
sure
that
work
with
staff
with
the
window
trim
details
to
fit
the
historic
contacts
as
well
because,
based
on
the
following
misconducting.
In
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
ebor
city
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa,
based
on
the
following
reasons
that
it
fits
the
design
criteria
for
new
construction
in
terms
of
height
and
width,
setbacks,
spacing
alignment
and
similarity
of
details
and
forms
and
building
materials
for
its
surrounding
contents.
C
A
We
have
a
second
all
in
favor
of
you
said:
do
you
want
to
confirm
your
there
are
certain
conditions
placed
on
the
application
I'd
like
you
to
confirm
that
you're?
Okay,
with
these
proposed
changes.
A
The
proposed
changes,
thank
you
appropriate.
Thank
you
appreciate
it
all
in
favor,
say,
motion,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries.
E
E
If
you
look
on
the
sanborn
map
just
to
kind
of
illustrate
the
front
portion
of
this
parcel
has
a
yc2
zoning
classification
and
then
the
rear
of
this
parcel
has
a
rs50
internally.
Staff
is
already
looking
at
this
with
the
zoning
department
to
clarify
all
parcels
within
the
eboard
city.
Boundaries
should
have
a
yc
zoning
classification,
so
we're
starting
that
process.
E
If
this
is
to
go
forward
with
a
final
approval,
a
condition
should
be
imposed
on
the
approval
that
that
the
zone
will
be
worked
out
to
have
one
zoning
classification.
The
dual
zoning
classification
poses
some
challenges
with
setbacks.
So
as
you're
reviewing
the
project
today,
it
is
not
in
keeping
with
the
rs-50
zoning,
so
once
that's
cleared
up,
then
the
project
can
move
forward
as
presented,
hopefully,
but
please
put
that
that
caveat
or
that
condition
on
the
final
approval.
If
that's
the
the
wish
of
the
board.
E
This
is
this
request
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction,
for
a
primary
structure
with
site
improvements.
This
is
the
buddy
lot
to
what
we
just
saw.
This
is
the
parcel
to
the
east.
E
This
is
on
the
corner
of
columbus
drive
and
21st
street
two
one-way
streets
with
the
alley
in
the
back,
and
I
just
lost
my
screen
there.
It
is
moving
to
the
vicinity
map
once
again
it's
over
here
on
the
corner
of
21st
and
columbus.
It
does
have
the
alley
that
will
be
accessed
to
meet
city
of
tampa
code
for
the
one
car
requirement
for
parking
within
this
urban
environment.
E
E
I
So
good
morning,
again,
juan
quinones
again
in
elliot
acosta
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
so
we
have
again
the
site
to
the
east
of
the
previous
site
that
we
just
talked
about
columbus
is
to
the
south.
North
21st
is
to
the
east.
I
Again,
we
have
worked
with
staff
to
kind
of
address
how
we
enter
the
site.
Previously,
we
had
to
enter
through
the
alley
and
there
was
not
enough
room
to
make
that
happen
for
one
parking
spot,
so
it
was
better
for
us
to
do
it
to
the
side.
So
we
work
with
staff
they
allow
us
to.
They
actually
ended
up
telling
us
to
come
in
through
the
side
of
the
property.
I
Size
setbacks
are
five
feet
on
each
side.
We
have
a
little
bit
more
on
this
property.
It's
five
foot
on
one
on
the
west
side:
five
foot,
four
on
the
east
side,
again
we're
using
the
block
average
to
set
our
house
front
within
the
property
it's
about
13.25
from
the
sidewalk,
the
edge
of
the
sidewalk
to
the
face
of
the
porch
right
now
the
living
area
finished
floor
will
be
30
inches
above
the
grade.
I
I
It's
identical
pretty
much
so
we're
going
to
take
into
account
of
adding
the
vents
to
the
front
of
the
house
and
the
rear
of
the
house
and
then
adding
just
the
smooth
hardy
board,
siding
instead
of
the
shaker,
siding,
we're
thinking
also
to
remove
the
brick
stocker
brick
and
make
that
a
different
color
working
with
staff
and
making
sure
that
the
colors
we
pick
are
appropriate.
I
I
We
also
have
the
stucco
band
going
around
the
building
just
to
separate
the
base
from
the
rest
of
the
building,
and
then
we're
going
to
be
using
hardy,
boar,
siding
hardy
board
trim
around
the
windows
instead
of
stucco
bands.
I
I
And
again,
we're
thinking
about
using
a
period
appropriate
for
single
pane
on
the
top
and
then
the
two
below
two
panels
below
it
window
type
single
window
single
home
window,
one
over
one,
white
and
similar
properties
are
surrounding
the
hashtag.
Finish
and
kind
of
similar
finishes
will
be
the
2911
north
18th
street
2801
north
16th
street
and
there's
a
few
more,
but
you
know
we
kind
of
simplified
it
to
that.
I
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
E
E
I
just
want
to
to
make
sure
that
two
things
are
entered
into
the
record
if
this
is
to
receive
final
approval,
that
the
design
exception
for
the
front
yard
averaging
is
started
and
submitted
to
zoning,
and
that
the
this
is
a
conditional
approval
that
the
underlying
zoning
that
has
the
bifurcated
zoning,
be
corrected
as
this
project
moves
forward
I'll,
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
D
Mr
sheriff,
I
could
add
to
that
just
in
once
again
seeing
the
the
presentation.
D
One
of
our
comments
was
that
there
would
be
additional
fenestration
along
the
south
elevation,
and
I
think
you
know
one
one
solution
that
I
think
would
not
only
accomplish
that,
but
I
think
resulted
in
probably
a
better
living
experience
for
the
occupants
would
be
if
this
whole
floor
plan
was
flipped,
so
that
that
porch
would
then
be
internal
to
the
lot
and
not
on
21st
street,
and
you
would
also
get
the
extra
window.
That's
on
that,
currently
north
elevation
and
place
out
of
the
south
elevation.
A
Okay,
does
anyone
hear
from
the
public
wishing
to
comment
on
this
case
same
comments
as
previous?
Okay?
All
right,
we
can
go,
go
ahead
and
ask
some
questions
of
the
applicant.
C
The
same
same
comment
as
before
you
know,
with
the
shaker
finish,
maybe
changing
that
to
start
running
the
vent,
the
cable.
Could
you
point
to
where
that
additional
window
that.
I
So
if
we
flip
the
house,
then
you
have
the
rear
window,
which
is
this
window
here
facing
the
street
and
then
making
the
balcony
or
the
backboard
more
private
for
the
resident,
because
it'll
be
a
flip
side
right
now
that
porch
is
actually
facing
the
street
okay.
So
if
we
flip
the
house,
it'll
it'll
make
it
definitely
more
private
for
the
resident
so
good.
I
think
that's
a
good
point.
He
made
take
that
into
account.
B
Absolutely
thank
you
you're
welcome.
Could
you
pull
up
the
site
plan
again,
so
we
can
just
kind
of
look
at
how
everything
gets
affected
when
things
get
flipped.
E
B
I
A
Yeah
I
was
going
to
ask
if
the
these
lots
are
fenced,
because
it's
almost
like
you
kind
of
like
share
your
driveway.
If
you
mirror
that
right,
then
you're
sharing
your
driveways
pretty
closer.
Not
you
know
getting
around
that
fence
post
to
bring
that
car
in
is
kind
of
tricky,
but
21st
people
fly
down
that
street.
So
I
think
it's
a
wise
move.
If
you
guys,
don't
you
know,
take
some
additional
work.
A
I
don't
know
if
you're
doing
cookie
cutter
plans
and
not
mirroring
them,
but
if
you
mirror
that
and
bring
that
out,
you
know
driveway
off
the
alley.
I
think
that's
does
a
lot
of
things
for
you.
There
additional
privacy
cuts
down
on.
You,
know
people
getting
hit
out
of
out
there
turning
into
their
driveway.
I
I
think
everything
that
you
guys
are
mentioned
are
good
pointers.
We're
gonna,
take
that
back
seriously
and
make
those
updates
the
drawings
before
we
submit
back
to
for
building
permits.
Hopefully,
as
far
as
the
fence
goes,
is
there
a
way
we
can
actually
allow
the
future
residents
to
provide
that
fence.
A
No
no
well
I
mean
it
would
have
to
come
back.
You
know,
there's
certainly
guidance
for
what
the
fence
can
look
like
within
the
district.
So
you
know
I
was
more
concerned
about
that
for
a
turning
radius,
but
if,
if
there
is
a
fence,
I
think
it's
something
that
the
staff
could
handle
if
it's
typical,
but
you
should
be
like
a
wood,
a
wood
fence.
There,
white
no
chain
links:
okay,
absolutely,
okay,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing.
Any
discussion
among
the
commissioners.
B
C
B
All
right
so
move
to
final
approval,
with
conditions
so
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
blc
22-61
for
the
property
located
at
2024,
east
columbus
drive
with
the
following
conditions:
to
remove
the
stucco
brick
pattern
and
just
into
a
smooth
stucco
to
and
work
out
the
exterior
color
palette
with
staff,
including
the
asphalt
shingles
for
the
roof.
B
Let's
see
that
they're
able
to
simplify
the
rear
column
to
mirror
the
plan
of
the
project.
I
guess
along
the
way
the
north
south
access
there
and
update
the
site
plan
accordingly
and
work
with
staff
for
that
to
also
what
is
how
do
I
work
this
to
make
the
zoning
to
just
yc2
and
follow
those
setbacks
for
the
the
lot
associated
with
the
property?
B
Let's
see,
I
can
use
half
round
gutters
and
then
to
be
able
to
work
with
staff
to
use
vinyl
in
lieu
of
wood,
clad
windows
and,
let's
see
anything
else
that
I
may
have
missed.
There's.
C
B
Yard
setback-
oh
yeah,
okay,
so
condition
for
the
design
exception
to
be
approved
for
the
front
setback.
I
believe
that
all
of
it
right,
okay
and
then
based
on
defining
a
factor
proposed
project,
is
consistent
with
the
eboor
city
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa.
For
the
following
reasons:
it
fits
the
designers
here
for
new
construction
based
on
height
width
setback,
spacing
alignment,
simulator,
details
of
forms
and
building
materials
for
its
surrounding
context.
C
A
Okay,
are
you?
Is
the
applicant
okay,
with
all
the
conditions
placed
upon
this
application,
as
discussed
at
this
meeting?
Yes,
we
are.
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
said
motion
say
aye
aye,.
C
E
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
that
motion
ron,
villa
staff
with
historic
preservation.
The
last
agenda
item
this
morning
is
blc
22-75.
E
This
is
for
the
address
of
1924
east
fifth
avenue.
Currently
there
is
a
non-contributing
primary
structure
there
that
was
constructed
in
and
approved
in
2011.,
the
underlying
zoning
there
is
yc7.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
Just
looking
at
the
accessory
structure
is
going
to
go
in
the
corner
of
the
parcel
and
the
condition
of
the
alley.
F
My
name
is
james
kenson,
I'm
the
authorized
agent
for
corey
brown,
which
is
the
owner
of
the
property,
I'm
also
the
design
builder
for
this
project,
so
I'll
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
the
accessory
structure.
It's
going
to
be
a
new
construction
project,
so
it
will
be
a
mono
slab.
Eight
inches
above
grade.
F
F
It's
going
to
be
vinyl
impact
windows
that
meet
florida
code
and
I
believe
I
have
the
site
plan
to
start
out
with,
because
if
that's
where
we
need
to
stop.
F
F
There
we
go
all
right,
so
this
is
the
proposed
home,
the
new
construction
home
that
we'd
like
to
do.
I
have
different
views
of
this
too,
so
this
would
be
the
view
facing
fifth
avenue.
So
if
you
walk
through
the
front
gate,
this
is
the
view
you
would
see
walking
to
the
home.
It's
a
14
by
28
structure.
F
F
F
F
Yep
so
I'll
show
you
some
different,
so
this
is
just
the
back
side
that
would
be
facing
the
the
property
on
the
east
side.
F
So
you
can
see
what
the
the
view
would
be
that
they
would
be
looking
at.
This
is
aside
from
fifth
ave,
as
I'm
explaining
in
the
first
picture,
that's
actually
fate,
which
will
be
seen
from
the
street
and
the
level
there.
The
first
part
is
10
feet
going
down
to
an
eight
foot.
The
second
level
is
14
feet,
going
down
to
10,
giving
the
212
pitch
on
both
sides.
F
The
second
side
is
going
to
be
a
loft
and
that's
why
that's
higher
like
that,
we're
using
the
same
type
of
front
door
as
the
same
front
door
on
the
primary
house
to
match
the
same.
Look
that
we
have
and
then
we're
still
using.
You
know
impact
doors
and
windows
all
the
way
around.
F
F
No
windows
on
the
back
side
because
the
bathroom
and
the
loft
are
using
that
back
wall,
but
everything
else
has
a
lot
of
try
to
get
a
lot
of
light
coming
in,
especially
with
the
skylight
too.
The
skylight
actually
adds
a
lot
of
light
into
the
loft
you
know
and
and
using
that
skylight
too,
it
actually
matches
the
existing
house
homes
around
it
too.
Some
of
the
homes
have
skylights
that.
Could
you
know
kind
of
give
us
that
same
feature
that
you
know
is
existing
in
ybor
city
we're
using
a
metal
roof.
F
F
And
then
I
have
some
pictures
of
the
actually
what
the
inside
would
look
like.
So
this
right
here
is
the
loft.
You
can
see
the
view
from
the
loft
with
the
skylight.
F
F
It's
another
view
of
the
side,
just
another
kind
of
view.
This
one
here
is
probably
the
more
important
one.
This
is
the
floor
plan,
so
this
isn't
a
3d
image,
so
you
can
see
how
the
bed
and
the
loft
sit
upstairs
with
the
stairs
on
the
right
part
of
the
loft
overlooks
the
kitchen
on
below
and
that's
where
the
area
is
open
at
the
edge
of
where
the
beds
than
the
the
platform
is
and
then
you
can
kind
of.
You
can
see
the
bottom
floor.
F
So
we
just
kind
of
pulled
the
loft
out
and
you
can
see
where
the
kitchen
setup
is
the
bathroom
set
up
on
the
right.
There
that's
going
to
be
set
up
for
the
utility
room
as
far
as
the
air
handler
water,
heater
and
so
forth.
There
anything
we
need
to
put
in
there
and
then
just
the
basic
layout.
You
can
see
the
pathway
on
the
side,
that's
right
by
the
main
primary
structure,
the
fence,
that's
going
to
separate
we're
using
a
five
foot
setback
on
the
side
and
on
the
alley
side
to
meet
code.
F
So
these
images
here
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
when
we
do
the
block
construction,
how
the
block
how
the
windows
will
sit.
F
That
shows
the
existing
now
and
what
we'll
be
using,
along
with
the
hottie
board,
trim
we'll
be
using
a
hottie
board,
trim
that
go
around
it.
So
you'll
have
a
hearty
board
against
the
block
and
then
you'll
have
your
hardy
board
going
around
the
window
same
same
feature
here,
using
either
a
composite
or
a
pressure
treated
wood
going
around.
F
F
Yes,
all
the
colors
match
the
existing
home,
and
then
this
shows
what
kind
of
handles
we'd
be
using.
As
far
as
you
know,
any
kind
of
handles
on
the
on
the
existing
house
would
match
the
small
home
that
we're
doing
in
there.
F
So
from
the
top
we'll
be
using
a
metal
roof
with
an
18
inch,
metal,
fascia,
aluminum
fascia,
covering
the
sides
concrete
block
wall,
all
the
way
down
to
the
the
slab
four
inch
concrete
slab,
mono
slab
about
eight
inches
above
grade
hottie
board
siding
attached
to
the
block
spray
foam
insulation
that
will
be
used
up
in
the
attic
or
in
the
trusses
and
then
we'll
be
using
two
by
ten.
F
F
F
This
is
the
site
plan
from
our
last
conversation
in
our
last
meeting.
One
of
the
things
that
needed
to
be
corrected
on
here
was
the
direction
as
far
as
showing.
F
Yeah
sure,
at
the
very
top
you
can
see
we
on
the
original
site
plan.
We
didn't
have
the
hd
located
on
the
back
side
of
the
house,
but
you
can
see
what
we
did
is
we
actually
place
that
on
the
back
corner
near
the
alley,
so
that's
actually
sitting
in
the
five
foot
space
between
the
fence
and
the
home,
and
then
here
we
actually
have
the
northeast
or
the
direction
of
north,
which
again
the
different
directions
of
where
the
house
is
placed.
F
F
I
guess
from
what
the
owner
was
telling
me
and
from
our
last
meeting
there
was
one
stone
that
was
interfering
with
the
way
they
would
come
in
and
out
of
the
driveway,
so
the
correction
for
that
was
to
we
actually
did
move
the
stone,
dig
down
and
and
put
the
stone
properly
level
with
the
street
and
then
put
a
new
piece
of
concrete.
You
know
right
on
the
side
there,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
hit
this
piece
of
concrete
coming
out,
and
this
was
a
recommendation
by
you
guys.
F
Is
nope?
I
have
one
more
too
so
this
right
here
is
the
elevations
and-
and
this
shows
how
the
elevations
match,
what
we
plan
to
build.
Hardy
board,
siding
the
windows,
the
trim,
the
structural
height
of
the
building,
the
location
of
the
air
conditioner
and
also
the
skylight.
That's
in
there.
So
I'll,
just
kind
of
move
this
around
for
you
to
see.
F
Sorry
say
it
again:
I
didn't
hear
you
okay
sure,
so
this
will
conclude
my
presentation.
I
guess
I'm
open
for
questions.
E
The
conditions
that
were
attached
to
our
staff
report
are
as
follows:
to
review
the
drawings
and
provide
accuracy
from
the
line
drawings
to
the
renderings,
the
renderings
they
don't
show.
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
more
as
an
inspiration
tool,
but
no
corner
boards.
The
line
drawing
show
corner
boards.
I
believe
they
showed
a
window
on
the
line
drawings
on
the
rear
elevation,
and
you
had
talked
about
that.
The
rear
elevation
was
not
going
to
have
any
windows,
so
additional
discussion
on
the
accuracy
of
what
was
presented
today.
E
He
talked
about
the
stone
transportation.
Looked
at
this
through
our
internal
meeting
with
all
applicants,
as
they
come
forward
he's
referring
to
the
granite
curbing
they
wanted
the
width
of
the
apron
to
be
modified
to
meet
current
standards
as
presented
it
doesn't,
so
they
have
the
opportunity
to
correct
the
deficiencies,
so
the
granite
curbing
will
be
depressed
in
place.
So
the
city
knows
where
our
inventory
is
at
and
in
the
event
that
it
needs
to
be
raised
up
and
the
curbing
needs
to
be
expressed.
E
The
curb
is
there
so
he's
just
going
to
depress
the
curbing
and
modify
the
apron
on
his
on
his
renderings.
He
showed
some
some
stepping
stones
if
that's
going
to
be
incorporated
into
this
project,
the
materials
and
the
placement
additional
information
on
the
site
work.
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
a
fence
in
front
of
the
parking
that
comes
off
a
fifth
avenue,
a
new
fence
or
are
you
gonna
the.
E
Fence
and
on
the
drawings
there
was
reference
to
an
aluminum
soffit.
I
believe
the
agent
might
have
some
pictures
of
the
existing
condition
to
show
how
he's
going
to
mimic
the
soffit
that's
there.
That
concludes
my
portion
and
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
F
C
C
Fifth
avenue
coming
across
so
the
front
of
the
primary
home
faces
fifth
avenue
correct
all
right
now
this
secondary
home
guest
house
is
going
to
face
what.
F
F
D
F
C
Okay,
okay
yeah,
because
they've
got
the
current
home.
The
primary
home's
got
a
little
driveway
here
and
then
there's
that
wooden
fence
separating
the
driveway.
F
C
No,
I'm,
okay,
I
think
I'm
okay,
I
think
right
now,
that's
all
I
have.
I
may
come
back.
I
reserve
the
right.
Okay.
A
Yeah,
it's
kind
of
like
a
hidden
hole
by
this
all
the
time
and
it's
like
there's
so
many
trees
and
things
in
front
of
it.
It's
like
a
hidden
gem
right
there
and
then
this
is
going
to
be
a
second
hidden
gem
in
that
property,
so
kind
of
cool
I'll.
Come
back
with
my
questions,
yeah,
okay,.
B
Yeah,
so
just
some
going
over
some
materials,
I
think
you
said
there
was
going
to
be
an
18
inch,
aluminum
fascia.
But
what
was
the
soffit
underneath.
F
Right,
no,
it's
fascia!
So
the
trusses
that
go
on
the
home
are
going
to
be
18
inches
from
top
to
bottom
cord.
So
when
you,
when
they
stick
out
and
they're
going
to
come
out,
10
inches
off
the
side
of
the
house,
you're
going
to
have
your
face,
you're
going
to
have
18
inches
of
fascia,
okay.
So
to
cover
that
there's
going
to
be
a
metal
fascia
to
match
the
roof.
B
Got
it
okay
and
then
are
there
gonna
be
gutters
around.
F
I
didn't
know
if
we
were
required
to
have
gutters
right
now.
The
the
owner
didn't
really
want
gutters
on
the
home.
If
it's
required,
then
we
have
no
problem
putting
them
on
there.
The
I
think,
the
only
part
that
it
would
affect,
probably
on
the
back
side
of
the
house,
to
defer
the
water,
maybe
towards
the
alleyway.
F
B
One
all
right
and
then
and
then
at
the
corners,
where
you
have
some
just
like
corner
trim
pieces.
F
B
F
Yep,
so
currently
in
the
property
in
the
backyard
they
have
brick
paint
like
this
brick
set
up.
So
it's
like
kind
of
take
out
the
grass
it's
just
one,
brick
walkway
the
walkway
over
the
years
has
been
kind
of
messed
with,
so
you
know
with
things
growing
underneath
it
it
kind
of
gives
a
little
wave
to
it.
So
the
customer
found
this
design
online.
Where
you
have
your
stones
and
you
have
grass
in
between.
F
I
thought
a
really
good
way
of
kind
of
keeping
the
cost
down
and
fixing
that
problem
and
give
them
something
decorative
at
the
same
time
was
to
remove
some
of
the
stones.
So
you
know
we'll
make
a
template,
we'll
put
it
on
top
and
then
we'll
start
removing
strategically
moving
some
stones
and
when
we
do
that,
we're
going
to
replace
it
with
grass.
F
C
I
think
I'm
I'm,
I
drive
my
hair
all
the
time
and
I've.
It's
very
I've
never
seen
this.
I've
probably
seen
it,
but.
C
C
F
F
C
A
Okay,
I
noticed
some
inconsistencies
between
the
renderings
and
the
line
drawings,
the
elevations
it
has
to
do
with
window
placement
sizes
proportions.
A
I
think
the
line
drawings
look
more
accurate,
but
I
don't
know
I
don't
want
to
get
into
it
too
much
detail
but
like
if
you
look
at
the
renderings
that
big
wind,
the
big
window,
this
little
window
next
to
the
front
door
in
the
kitchen,
looks
too
big
and
it's
not,
I
think,
placed
very
well.
So
I
wanted
to
see
if
we
can
switch
that
over.
A
But
when
you
look
at
your
elevations,
that
window
is
much
smaller
and
it's
placed
more
sensitive
in
the
proportions
like
your
renderings,
the
upper
windows
and
the
loft
are
not
centered
within
those
walls,
but
your
elevations
have
them
centered.
So,
as
a
general
rule,
you
know,
I
think
I
think
staff
understands
what
the
proportions
are
are
doing
there,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
what
your
intent
is.
There.
F
All
right,
so
the
wind,
the
window
placement,
is
more
accurate
in
my
my
rendering
than
here.
So
what
it
is
is.
A
A
F
Architect
when
he
was
drawing
these
moved
it
over
too
far,
but
this
is
where
we
wanted
on
the
far
side
to
give
the
light
in
a
certain
way
going
aloft
moving
it
over
too
far.
We
wouldn't
give
us
the
light
there
and
it
would
be
kind
of
where
the
overhang
is
where
the
space
is
down
below.
You
want
to.
A
F
And
the
rendering
too,
it
is
centered
it
is
made
for
that.
The
dimensions
of
that
window
are
18
inch
by
2
foot,
and
I
have
I
have
the
window
product
here
too.
So
you
can
see
if
you
wanted
to
see
that
so
the
window
is
there,
and
even
though
the
drawing
might
look
where
the
window's
small,
the
the
size,
isn't
18
wide
by
24
inch
high
a
little
view
window
and
that.
A
That's
a
fixed
window
and
like
this
line
drawing
you
have
full
height
windows.
Those
two
on
the
right
hand,
side,
they're,
full
height
windows,
with
clear
stories
above
them
say
that
I'm
understanding
that
go
so
right
now,
you're
showing
us
one
over
one
windows
for
the
two
windows
here
right
now.
If
we
go
back
to
the
rendering-
I'm
sorry,
oh,
I
know
yeah
yeah,
I
see
they're
full
height
windows
that
go
all
the
way
down
to
slab
and
then
they've
got
the
the
clear
story.
F
Yeah
so
so
this
was
probably
more
of
a
more
decorative
look
that
you
know,
but
for
code
wise,
we
have
to
have
the
three
foot
by
six
foot
windows
and-
and
that's
what
I
have
here
as
far
as
product
codes.
So
these
are
the
ones
that
we're
going
to
be
using.
F
No
they're,
like
the
the
they're
just
like
these
here.
A
Right
windows
are
important
to
us.
That's
why
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we.
F
Yeah,
when
we
originally
did
this
design,
we
thought
we
might
be
able
to
go
with
this
way,
but
you
know,
obviously
we
have
to
go
with
the
way
the
florida
coat
is,
which
is
a
three
by
six
window,
which
gives
a
57
square
foot
opening
for
egress.
F
Again,
that's
only
for
bedrooms.
We
would
like
to
go
home
because
you
can't
get
there's
no
way
to
get
out
of
the
bedroom
kind
of
per
se.
That's
a
lot
you're
talking
about
the
windows
up
upstairs
now
right,
there's
only
one
window,
fixed
windows
upstairs
so
the
rest
of
them.
We
wanted
egress
windows.
A
I
mean
you
have
a
door
yeah,
okay,
all
right,
so
you
know
that's
something
that
you
know.
I
think
there's
two
different
options
here.
I
think
work
with
staff
on
getting
that
finalized.
You
know,
I
think
the
two
upper
level
windows,
I'm
okay
with
them
being
off
center
kilted
to
the
side
for
for
your
loft,
I
I
kind
of
like
I'd,
prefer
them
in
the
middle
of
those
walls.
This.
F
A
F
On
the
back
side,
there's
a
window
in
the
bathroom,
we
have
that
window
here
and
my
rendering
it
doesn't
show
that,
but
on
the
drawings
on
the
drawing
on
the
original,
drawing
here
for
the
architectural,
it
does.
A
Okay,
five
foot
rear
set
back
okay,
we
talked
about
that
side
window
by
the
door
skylight.
What
what's
your
proposed
skylight
up
there?
Do
you
have
a
cut
sheet
on
that
yeah,
so.
A
F
A
And
you've
got
your
florida
product
approval
there.
So
is
that
a
flat
flat
glass
or
is
that.
A
A
F
Would
be
like
you
know,
I
mentioned
that
to
the
owner
and
he
was
kind
of
considering
that
too.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
an
option
that
we
can
do
that
to
make
it.
You
know
better,
so
the
head
room
is
on
the
right
side
than
the
other.
You
know
we
would
still
keep
it.
We
just
swapped
the
kitchen
and
the
stairs
around
right
to
make
it.
So
we
had
that.
I
agree.
I
mentioned
that
also
yeah.
A
F
A
I
think
you
have
room
to
move
that
out.
You
know,
I
know
why
you
did
it
with
the
you
know,
slope
going
to
the
east
side.
I
think
that
all
works
really
well.
I
agree
it's
an
internal
thing
that
you
can
adjust.
A
Okay,
that's
all
I
have
for
for
now.
Okay,
you
can
summarize
any
comments.
You
have
a
couple
minutes
to
wrap
it
all
up
and
then
we'll
move
on.
F
This
is
just
going
to
be,
I
think,
a
really
good
showpiece
for
the
historic
district
right
now.
My
company
tiny
homes
by
design
is
probably
the
leading
company
in
the
state
of
florida,
I'm
producing
these
homes.
We
only
do
a
concrete
product,
florida
code,
product
hurricane
resistant
product,
so
by
I'm
sure
this
isn't
probably
gonna,
be
the
first
time.
You'll
see
me
because
once
we
put
this
up,
I
imagine
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
are
gonna
want
one
too.
F
It
seems
like
everywhere
that
I
go
and
we
do
these
homes-
hey
great.
You
guys
do
that.
I
want
one
too,
so
you
know
understanding
that
this
could
be
good,
for
you
know
igbo
city
and
the
look.
I
think
that
this
might
be
something
that
might
kind
of
catch
on
down
there
too.
For
people
who
want
you
know
additional
space
for
their
loved
ones,
mothers
and
stuff,
like
that,
as
they
get
older.
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing,
any
discussion
amongst
ourselves
just.
C
Picking
up
on
what
you
said,
I
I
would
like
him
to
I
like
the
look
of
the
rendering
on
the
first
floor
with
the
floor,
the
large
windows
yeah.
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity,
looking
towards
the
corner
of
the
house
and
that
big
patty,
and
all
that
I
mean
you,
don't
need
that
for
code,
the
three
by
three
by
six.
I
think
they
were
we're.
F
A
I
think
we
kind
of
talk
about
that
with
you
know,
I
think
they
work
with
staff
on
whatever
that
final
window
package
is.
You
know
there
there's
a
couple
code
issues
that
they
can
go,
go
through
and
take
care
of,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
love
that
you
look
at
this
as
a
garden
house
too,
and
I
mean
unfortunately,
I
think
they're
losing
one
tree
in
that
backyard,
but
they
have
another
tree
and
that's
one
thing
I
love
about
this
house.
A
A
Yeah
agreed
and
obviously
the
renderings
show
larger
windows
with
a
player
story.
So
there's
a
lot
of
light,
looks
really
nice,
but
obviously
bigger
windows
are
more
a
lot
more
expensive
too,
and
to
get
them
to
be
operable
too,
then
they
make
they
lose
their.
You
know
eager
capabilities
as
well,
so
that
for
him,
working
with
staff,
a
windows,
solution
and
placement
as
well.
A
B
A
It's
well
done.
I
think
the
basic
bones
are
there.
I
think
it's
kind
of
for
me.
It
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
first
case.
It's
like
okay,
we're
looking
at
two
different
things.
What
are
we
gonna
do
this
one?
I
know
you
know
what
you're
doing
here
and-
and
I
think
you
you
have
a
relationship
already
with
staff
to
be
able
to
work
through
this.
I
think
the
bones.
There
are
good
once
you
determine
the
final
window
package,
I
think
proportionally
making
that
work,
but
those
higher
second
story
or
clear
story.
A
Windows,
really,
you
know,
would
be
a
nice
accent.
I'd
definitely
spend
a
little
bit
more
money
on
those
windows
if
you
could,
but
I
like
the
project,
I
think
it
works
really
well
in
the
in
the
in
the
settings
and
it's
nice
a
little
oasis
back
there
and
that
guard
so
yeah.
B
I
think
you
mentioned
oh
and
I
I
think
he'll
eventually
need
gutters,
so
I
mean
just
hitting
work
with
staff,
make
them
actually
existing
house,
and
I
think
that's
fine,
and
you
know,
then
it
just
makes
it
work
with
permitting
to
you
know,
get
the
drainage
and
everything
like
that
on
the
site
plan
to
work
right
so
again,
move
to
a
final
approval,
with
conditions
so
move
to
grant
certificate,
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
dlc
22-75
for
the
property
located
at
1924,
east
fifth
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
worked
with
staff
to
finalize
the
window
package
and
the
locations
for
the
windows
and
to
have
gutters
matching
the
existing
house.
B
If
gutters
are
needed
for
the
new
house
to
put
a
new
building,
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
fact
that
post
project
is
assistant
with
the
ebook
cd
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reason
that
it
needs
a
design
criteria
for
new
construction
and
for
new
construction
based
on
the
height
and
width
setback.
Spacing
alignment
similar
similarity
of
details
and
forms
and
building
materials
of
its
surrounding
context.
A
So
there's
been
a
few
conditions
that
we
put
as
part
of
the
motion,
as
the
applicant
would
like
to
confirm
that
these
are
okay
with
them.
I
agree.
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
said
motion
say
aye
aye,
aye,.
F
A
Motion
carries
congratulations
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
more
board
business,
seeing
none?
We
are
now
adjourned.
Everyone
have
a
nice
couple
weeks
off
and
we'll
see
in
two
consecutive
weeks
in
a
month.