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D
We
are
so
the
four
that
we
have
we'll
start
with
the
number,
the
first
applicant,
which
is
colin
rice,
and
this
is
a
request
to
amend
the
bonus
provisions,
and
this
is
for
the
channel
district,
so
this
request
would
amend
code
section
27
140,
which
is
the
bonus
provision
section
of
the
code.
This
is
what
you
would
mostly
see
with
a
site
plan
zoning
if
an
applicant
is
requesting
bonus
density
or
far,
then
that
calculation
is
utilized
to
determine
the
bonus
amount.
D
D
We
worked
with
the
applicant,
the
applicant
amended
the
request
and
it
will
pertain
to
the
channel
district
only
and
what
I've
done
is
given
an
example
of
what
the
far
payment
would
be
at
that
ten
to
one
ratio
and
what
it
would
be
if
it
were
a
hundred
to
one
ratio.
D
If
this
is
approved.
So
today
it
is
before
you
for
workshop.
It
still
has
to
go
through
the
various
phases
we
would
have
to
hold.
Go
before
planning
commission
come
back
to
council
for
first
and
second
reading,
and
if
this
were
approved,
this
new
ratio
would
take
effect
after
the
adoption
of
this
approved
ordinance,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
right
now
is
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant.
D
E
Good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
members,
council,
andy
mates,
101,
east
kennedy,
boulevard,
colin
rice,
and
I
are
here
on
with
the
shoemaker
firm
on
behalf
of
mr
stoltenberg,
to
talk
about
an
issue
over
in
the
channel
district
where,
where
what
has
been
presented
and
what
has
worked
with
the
the
code,
there
has
has
allowed
the
development
on
the
periphery
to
happen
into
taking
place.
E
The
the
bonus
ratio
of
ten
to
one
we're
asking
to
be
adjusted
101
to
create
the
application
of
an
incentive
to
the
developer
rather
than
a
disincentive,
because
right
now
it's
causing
what
we
already
know
to
have
to
increase
in
far
and
go
high
is
causing
the
developer
have
to
pay
in
some
instances.
Millions
of
dollars
in
bonus
density
costs,
which
you
know
ken
will
talk
about,
is
really
cause
people
to
look
at
the
projects
and
say:
hey:
they.
E
Don't
pencil,
we
can't
do
them,
so
the
the
text
amendment
in
and
of
itself
is
very
short
and
simple.
Take
ten
to
one
replace
it
with
a
hundred
and
one,
but
we
believe
that
this
is
going
to
really
foster
supply,
which
I
know
council
wants
to
do
is
wants
to
increase
supply,
especially
in
those
areas
that
have
been
meant
to
be
highly
dense.
E
Often
those
bonus
density
issues
are
covered
with
other
areas
of
construction
or
implementation,
and
so
I
think,
as
you
saw
earlier
today,
this
whole
bonus
density
concept
is
one
that
that
probably
should
be
reviewed
is
suggested
to
be
reviewed
within
the
code
and
and
we're
asking
that
you
allow.
What
you
intended
to
allow
to
happen
is
for
highly
dense
areas
of
construction
to
take
place
in
in
the
channel
district.
E
So,
mr
stoneman,
you
want
to
add.
F
Yes,
yes,
my
name
is
ken
stoltenberg.
I
reside
at
1280's
kennedy
boulevard
tampa
florida
33602..
I
am
an
affected
party
by
this.
I
want
to
make
that
clear
to
everybody,
as
I
am
a
property
owner
in
the
channel
district,
and
I
was
one
of
the
ones
actually
who
worked
with
the
city
to
develop
this
bonus
density
system
almost
15
years
ago,
and
what
I've
seen
over
the
over
a
long
period
of
time
is
there
really
haven't
been
any
developments?
Well,
there
may
have
been
bonus
density
agreements
executed,
which
called
for
a
large
payment.
F
To
give
you
an
example,
I
have
a
project
called
elevate
61,
which
has
a
bonus
density
agreement
with
the
city
with
a
payment
of
almost
2.2
million
dollars.
So
what
that
effectively
does?
Is
it
quadruples
the
amount
of
impact
fees
that
one
would
have
to
pay
to
develop
in
the
channel
district
as
opposed
to
downtown,
which
doesn't
have
that?
So
it's
really
acted
as
acting
now
as
a
hindrance.
F
What
it
does
is
it
makes
the
provision
unworkable
for
a
lot
of
people
so
for
the
parcels
that
are
left
to
reach
their
highest
and
best
potential
you've
really
got
to
go
high
to
get
water
views,
and
you
really
can't
go
over
15
or
16
stories
at
3.5
far
so
to
have
the
provision
work
as
it
was
intended
to
enhance
things
in
the
channel
district.
That's
what
we're
asking
for
the
other
component
is
key
when
this
was
enacted.
F
That-
and
this
is
a
good
news
story-
you
guys
don't
get
enough
of
those
by
the
way
when
the
channel
district
became
a
cra,
the
entire
channel
district
was
valued
at
37.5
million
dollars.
That's
220
acres,
including
the
port
property.
It
is
now
valued
at
over
a
billion
dollars,
so
the
revenue
has
gone
into
the
cra
from
about
200
000
to
about
10
million
on
an
annual
basis.
So
all
the
things
that
the
bonus
density,
we're
supposed
to
address
have
basically
already
been
addressed.
F
It's
a
very
short
list
of
things
that
still
have
to
be
done
to
do
everything
in
the
channel
district
plan.
As
far
as
you
know,
bearing
the
power
street,
you
know
sewer
improvements
that
type
of
thing
everything's
pretty
much
been
done,
or
there
is
money
available
that
the
city
currently
has
on
hand
or
will
be
available
within
the
next
year
or
two
to
meet
most
of
the
goals
in
the
strategic
action
plan.
F
So
the
purpose
for
having
the
bonus
density
really
doesn't
exist
anymore
and
again,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
that's
a
good
thing,
because
the
neighborhood
has
developed
and
is
probably
one
of
the
most
successful
cras
in
the
state.
What
I'm
asking
for
is
for
this
to
I'm
using
a
mechanism,
that's
already
in
the
code
that
you're
supposed
to
revisit
every
so
many
years
to
make
it
what
it
was
intended
to
be
in
the
beginning,
an
incentive
to
go
denser
as
opposed
to
a
disincentive
right
now.
F
Why
would
you
you
know,
try
to
do
something
at
7.0
in
the
channel
district,
when
you
can
go
into
the
city
into
the
cbd
and
do
something
at
10.0
and
not
pay
a
dime?
So
it's
really
hindering
the
further
revenue
generation
of
the
channel
district.
Heck
I'd
like
to
see
the
revenue,
the
the
appraised,
value
of
challenges,
property
be
two
billion
in
five
years,
and
it
probably
will
be,
but
this
is
kind
of
it's
somewhat
antiquated.
F
The
purpose
for
it
doesn't
exist
because
the
money's
already
there
that's,
not
a
problem
that
you
know.
Most
governments
have
a
lot
of
the
time.
In
this
case,
it
is
and
again
that's
a
good
story,
so
I
want
to
reset
it
to
what
it
was
originally
intended
to
do
so,
hopefully,
people
do
come
in
and
build
more
point
towers
and,
instead
of
paying
say,
2
million
they're,
paying
200
000.
That
gives
the
city
and
the
cra.
F
You
know
revenue
in
the
future
to
do
more
good
things,
but
the
way
that
I
look
at
it
is
where
you're
really
losing
money
in
the
channel
district
are
all
the
vacant
parcels
that
are
generating.
Maybe
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Don't
worry
about
one,
that's
gonna
that
you
know
you're
hoping
to
get
a
one-time
bonus
density,
payment
of
two
million
dollars.
If
my
project
my
elevate
project,
one
of
the
reasons
it
didn't
get
off
the
ground
just
before
covid
was
because
of
the
bonus
density
payment.
F
My
partner
at
the
time
who
you've
heard
of
called
coulter
said:
hey
ken.
If
we
didn't
have
to
pay
this
it'd,
be
a
lot
easier
to
say
yes
well,
that
was
march
night,
that
was
march
13
2020..
We
all
know
what
happened
after
that
and
culture
went
away,
but
I
can't
say
that's
why
it
didn't
happen,
but
I
can
say
that
going
forward
leaving
it.
F
The
way
it
is
is
not
good
for
the
channel
district
and
it's
going
to
cost
the
city
of
tampa
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
of
tax
revenue
over
the
next
30
or
40
or
50
years.
Amending
it
as
we're
saying,
is
going
to
make
the
city
more
money
right
now
in
actual
payments.
If
you
look
at
the
history
of
what's
happened
and
it's
going
to
generate
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
of
new
revenue,
because
people
are
going
to
build
in
the
channel
district
at
more
at
a
density
ratio,
that's
already
codified.
F
E
Thanks
chairman,
we
we
thank
the
the
city
staff,
they've,
been
very
cooperative
throughout
the
process.
We've
worked
together
well
to
to
make
some
modifications
and
ensure
that
that
we
can
bring
to
you
something
that
everybody
can
agree
upon,
and
we
ask
you
to
look
favorably
upon
the
recommendation
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any
questions.
G
C
H
B
H
D
Well,
for
the
it's
typically
a
project,
that's
been
identified
to
a
cip,
a
cip
project,
capital
improvement.
D
Well,
within
that
area,
within
that
area
the
project
would
be
identified,
and
then
what
happens
is
the
agreement
is
drafted?
If
council
approves
that
agreement,
let's
say
with
the
rezoning
by
the
time
they
the
developer
or
the
applicant
gets
to
permitting
and
they
permit
it.
It
could
be
years
later.
So
we
check
to
see.
Is
that
project
still
open?
I
You
know
what
infrastructure
housing
just
various
or
is
it
specifically
dealing
with
dollars.
D
It's
specific
to
that
capital,
improvement
project
or
a
similar
project.
That's
in
the
area
as
a
part
of
your
bonus
density
that
you're
that
is
available
under
27
140.
There
are
other
options
available
to
you
to
achieve
bonus,
whether
it's
providing
10,
affordable
housing.
Currently,
the
way
the
code
is
structured.
D
There
are
several
other
amenities
that
can
be
provided
for
you
to
reach
that
bonus
or
you
can
make
the
payment.
That's.
B
A
B
J
A
You
is
stephanie
pointer
there.
B
A
From
councilman
madison
consecutive
from
councilman
vieira
roll
call
vote.
B
A
D
Council,
thank
you
so
much
lashonda
development
coordination
and,
let's
move
to
our
second
private
amendment.
For
today,
this
is
a
request
from
the
applicant
ricky
pedrica.
This
is
a
request
to
amend
the
zoning
code,
the
natural
resources
section
of
the
code
and,
in
addition
this
would
create
bicycle
standards,
so
this
would
establish
a
27-283.62.
D
Section
of
the
code
and
the
applicant
has
worked
with
natural
resources
staff
in
addition
to
development
coordination.
The
zoning
administrator
has
modified
the
language
for
what
you
have
before
you
today
and
what's
listed,
is
all
the
code
sections
under
this
request.
Some
of
the
sections
that
are
listed.
D
They
are
clarifications
in
the
code
as
it
is
written
and
they
were
updates
that
were
required
that
were
needed
to
these
sections
and
the
definition
of
grand
tree
was
the
first
modification,
and
that
adds
the
condition
rating
to
that
definition,
but
otherwise
the
other
modifications
are
minor
in
some
cases
in
most
of
the
cases,
with
the
exception
of
the
tree
table
and
the
applicant
is
here
and
what
I
like
to
do
is
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant,
but
the
staff
has
no
objections
to
this
request
as
presented.
K
Good
morning,
council
ricky
pedrica
with
dark,
moss,
308
east
7th
avenue.
Thank
you
for
entertaining
this
in
an
effort
to
keep
the
day
from
getting
longer.
I'm
going
to
try
to
bridge
my
presentation,
but,
as
ms
doc
mentioned,
I'm
proposing
several
cleanup
items
for
the
27284
natural
resource
section,
based
on
my
experience,
working
with
the
new
tree
code
from
2019.
K
There
was
discussion
when
we
were
considering
that
code,
revisiting
it
and
approximately
two
years
from
adopting
it.
That
didn't
seem
like
it
was
going
to
happen,
and
I
wanted
to
be
the
change
I
wanted
to
see
in
some
of
those
things.
K
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
grand
trees,
because
discussions
would
come
up
between
me
and
staff
and
and
the
neighborhood
on
what
a
grand
tree
really
should
be
per
the
urban
forest
management
plan
and
what
I
understood
to
be
the
goals
of
the
canopy
study,
which
is
with
good
quality,
mature
tree
canopy,
not
all
tree
canopies,
including
poor
or
hazardous
trees,
especially
in
the
context
of
the
new
florida
statute.
163.045
and
another
provision.
K
We're
correcting,
is
a
a
very
kind
of
obvious
one.
With
seminal
heights
requiring
four
foot
diameter
trees,
which
would
be
grand
trees
to
be
planted
back
for
all
new
construction,
is
a
simple
fix.
K
There
was
discussion
in
the
in
the
prior
tree
code
in
2019
2018-2019
on
the
value
of
a
class
1
or
category
1
invasive
species
camphor
trees,
which
are
valuable
in
several
streets
around
the
city,
but
they
are
dis
incentivized
near
wetlands.
That
was
what
was
proposed
before
it
just
so
happened
the
way
that
the
mitigation
was
calculated
for
these
trees.
K
K
There,
the
landscape
buffering
table
this
is
very
granular,
but
very
frustrating
for
many
in
development.
It
was
restructured
in
2019
in
a
less
than
intuitive
way,
just
graphically
and
conceptually,
and
I
believe
there
was
a
copy-paste
error
too.
So
we're
proposing
just
kind
of
a
clean
up
of
that
and
a
simplification.
K
And
then
there
is
a
provision
I
feel
like
councilman.
Citroe
would
maybe
remember
this
site.
Henderson
and
dale
mabry
triangular
site,
where
it
was
a
redeveloped
property
with
palm
trees
that
I
had
to
go
before,
requesting
a
variance
for
a
retention,
percentage
reduction
and
councilman
sitro
said.
Well,
I
don't
see
any
trees
looking
at
the
area
and
you
know
because
there
were
only
15
or
so
palm
trees
on
the
site.
K
K
K
Finally,
tampa
now
ranks
is
number
one
in
the
united
states.
It's
a
bicycle-friendly
business
or
of
the
number
of
bicycle-friendly
friendly
businesses
awarded
by
the
league
of
american
bicyclists
in
january
2021,
in
spite
of
no
city-wide
bicycle
parking,
dimensional
standards
or
guidelines,
except
for
temporary
special
events,
no
other
use
so
in
disbelief.
K
I
did
some
research
with
some
neighboring
jurisdictions,
looked
at
guidance
from
abbp
and
suggested.
What
I
think
is
a
modest
set
of
provisions
that
are
using
best
practices
recommended
from
bicycle
and
pedestrian
advocates
to
propose
a
framework
for
the
city
of
tampa
to
step
into
the
realm
of
structured
bicycle
regulation.
L
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
bicycle
parking
standards,
I'm
a
cyclist
and
it
is
really
hard
to
find
bike
parking
and
when
it
is
there,
it's
not
always
great.
So
really
look
forward
to
this.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Any
comments
questions
I
know
of
at
least
four
or
five
people
that
are
saying.
Thank
you
about
the
bicycle
parking.
M
A
At
least
four
or
five
people
miss
pedrica.
This
whole
concept
and
idea
about
camphor
trees
goes
way
back
to
when
you-
and
I
were
both
on
variance
review
board.
Absolutely.
We
couldn't
understand
the
concept
of
why
they
were
so
valued
as
much
as
other
grant
as
much
as
a
grand
tree.
But
I
thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
in
chambers
you
wish
to
speak
to
this
public
comments?
B
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
still
number
one
10
years
from
now.
N
G
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Council
lashonda
development
coordination,
and
this
is
the
third
request
for
today
this
is
a
privately
initiated
amendment
from
the
applicant
brian
seal.
This
request
is
to
create
tampa
heights
design
standards.
This
is
something
council.
You
may
have
heard
at
various
rezoning
hearings:
the
creation
of
this
code,
how
it
was
in
process,
so
we're
happy
to
say
we're
moving
forward
with
it
at
this
stage.
D
What
this
would
do
is
create
an
overlay,
design
district
and
create
standards
within
that
overlay,
and
this
would
actually,
I
have
a
map
of
the
boundary.
If
I
could
have
just
the
overhead
briefly,
please,
this
would
be
inclusive
of
the
tampa
heights
neighborhood.
This
is
the
the
northern
boundary
is
mlk.
D
D
The
red
is
the
boundary
for
this
overlay,
but
it
would
less
out
the
heights
area
that
that
area,
as
you
know,
has
their
own
design
standards
that
would
apply
to
their
development
so,
but
this
gives
an
idea
of
the
area
contained
within
the
overlay
and
if
I
can
have
the
powerpoint
again,
please
and
so
there's
the
request
includes
standards
that
would
apply
to
residential
development.
D
That
is
the
bulk
of
the
standards
that
are
inclusive
in
the
change
and
there
is
a
small
section
that
would
apply
to
commercial
or
mixed-use
development
and
that's
relating
to
parking
offsets,
but
the
residential
development
includes
the
residential
standards
for
things
like
placement
of
building
entry.
D
The
garages
fencing
things
of
that
nature,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
applicant
is
online,
brian
still
was
going
to
try
to
log
in
and
participate
virtually.
I
know
he
is
out
of
town
and
I
don't
know
if
he
has
anyone
else
online.
D
O
Thank
you
lashon
good
afternoon,
honorable
council
members.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today,
if
possible.
I
would
like
to
share
my
screen.
A
O
Okay,
unfortunately,
there
we
go
excellent.
Thank
you
again.
I
want
to
take
a
few
minutes
to
present
the
tampa
heights
overlay
district
code
amendment.
It
is
something
that
hopefully,
all
of
you
will
recall
has
been
mentioned
several
times.
We
have
reached
out
to
each
of
you
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
a
half
or
so
and
met
with
many
of
you
council
members
about
this.
O
We
really
view
this
as
a
comprehensive
thing
that
ties
together
with
many
of
the
other
issues
that
are
going
on
in
the
city
and
we've
had
a
great
working
relationship
with
city
staff
that
has
been
supportive
of
these
efforts,
as
well
as
helpful
in
this
and
overall
here's.
Our
request
is
that
we
ask
that
the
city
first
helped
pass.
This
overlay
district
then
follow
up
with
an
updated
neighborhood
plan
for
tampa
heights.
We
have
been
working
off
of
our
neighborhood
plan,
which
was
adopted
by
council
in
2003.
O
A
lot
of
great
change
has
happened
in
tampa
heights.
That
is
in
line
with
that,
but
we're
in
need
of
that
we'd
also
like
to
establish
a
commercial
tax,
district
or
business
improvement,
district
for
franklin,
florida,
columbus
corridors
and
and
I'll
touch
on
a
little
bit
of
those
issues
later
and
follow
up
this
overlay
with
a
permanent
overlay
that
regulates
all
of
land
development
for
tampa
heights,
based
on
the
heart.
Tod
study.
That's
incredibly
important
to
us.
The
the
way
we're
looking
at
this
overlay
is.
O
O
Our
neighborhood
is
wholeheartedly
behind
and
it's
form-based
code,
and
it
goes
far
beyond
what
this
is.
But
it
will
take
more
time
to
implement.
So
we
look
at
this
as
step
one
and
these
other
items
as
following
steps
to
that
that
ultimately
are
going
to
yield
the
most
walkable
diversified,
mixed
use
and
transit-friendly
neighborhood
in
tampa.
O
O
We
have
in
writing
that
we
were
promised
by
the
city
for
form
based
code
overlay,
that
was
going
to
commence
in
2015.,
and
so
we
look
at
2015
as
a
key
year
when
that
promise
was
made
that
this
would
occur
every
year.
Thereafter,
we've
petitioned
the
city
and
said
well.
When
is
this
happening?
When
are
we
getting
the
overhaul?
We
were
especially
afraid
because
of
the
wonderful
armature
works
development.
O
As
soon
as
that
opened,
we
knew
there
was
going
to
be
an
inrush
of
out-of-state
out-of-area
interest
in
tampa
heights
and
without
any
additional
protections
to
protect
our
unique
urban
character
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
free-for-all
and
that's
really
what's
occurred.
Since
2017,
when
armature
works
opened,
had
the
overlay
been
put
into
place
in
2015
2016
as
as
promised
by
the
city.
Initially,
we
wouldn't
be
here
needing
to
present
a
peta.
O
We
submitted
this
peta
and
have
been
working
with
staff
since
there's
a
lot
of
words
on
here,
but
I
just
wanted
to
reference
that
we
we
do
not
just
pursue
this
for
the
sake
of
some
folks
opinions,
whether
personal
or
professional
opinions,
but
we
are
guided
by
the
tampa
high
civic
association,
the
approach
to
have
a
walkable
mixed-use
pedestrian
bike
and
transit-friendly
community
goes
back
to
2003
to
our
community
plan,
as
well
as
establishing
that
we
do
have
a
very
historic
character
of
the
urban
design
in
this
neighborhood.
O
It's
also
supported
by
the
land
development
codes
mentioned
numerous
times
throughout
the
current
comprehensive
plan
about
pre
world
war
ii
development
patterns
throughout
the
city,
including
tampa
heights,
as
well
as
other
language
about
how
to
orient
things
to
the
street,
how
to
locate
parking,
how
to
create
good
urban
infill
development
in
our
urban
villages.
O
O
So
we
class
that
we
looked
up
through
the
property
appraisers
each
year
of
construction
of
homes
and
did
a
windshield
survey
of
the
compatibility
with
the
urban
design
of
the
neighborhood
and
classified
things
really
as
pre
and
post
2015.,
and
what
you'll
see
in
both
the
green
dark
green,
which
is
a
pre-world
war
ii
home
and
the
light
green,
which
is
post-world
war
ii,
is
that
60
percent
of
the
homes
in
this
area
not
just
homes
but
but
buildings,
whether
they're,
multi-family
or
single
family
homes
meet
that
urban
layout
and
what
you
see
in
the
white
red
here.
O
That's
a
lot
of
the
post-world
war
ii,
1950s
1960s
homes
that
are
being
bought
up
for
expensive
sums
of
money
and
torn
down
and
replaced,
and
and
they
are
not
contributing
to
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
but
as
they're
replaced
with
density,
which
we
welcome,
that
we
want
it
to
be
in
that
proper
urban
character.
O
O
There
are
some
folks
throughout
this
process
in
our
community
that
wanted
to
extend
the
entire
historic
district
to
cover
the
whole
neighborhood
or
find
a
way
to
more
strongly
echo
the
architectural
standards
in
there.
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
focused
on
the
urban
design,
which
is
how
that
affects
pedestrians
and
vehicles
and
transit
and
biking
and
the
real
urban
layout
without
getting
into
the
weeds.
So
we
none
of
this
has
anything
to
do
with
architectural
styles
of
homes
and
buildings.
O
So
what
I
want
to
show
you
aside,
if
you
ignore
the
architectural
style,
because
these
are
some
similar
examples,
but
all
these
were
built
in
that
post
2015
period
and-
and
I
want
to
point
out
some
of
the
things
that
our
code
amendment
will
do
and
and
some
issues
that
we
had
here
that
we're
seeking.
O
If
you'll
see
on
these
on
three
of
these
photos,
you
have
extremely
wide
driveways
that
take
up
almost
the
entire
front
lawn
and
create
new
vehicle
crossings
where
folks
regularly
park
over
the
sidewalk
and-
and
it
completely
eliminates
our
on-street
parking,
as
well
as
eliminating
green
space
in
front
yards.
When
all
of
these
properties
have
alley
access-
and,
I
might
add,
all
of
these
properties
have
free
and
clear
alley
access
for
vehicle
loading.
O
And
so
that's
that's.
One
of
the
key
provisions
of
what
we
want
to
do.
The
one
in
the
lower
center
is,
I
believe,
eight
or
nine
townhomes
oriented
in
the
t
when
all
of
those
and
the
one.
F
O
You
is
directly
on
north
boulevard,
which
again
fills
that
up
with
with
concrete
and
driveways
the
the
one
that
is
incomplete
in
this
picture
is
facing
the
street
to
the
south
with
again
front
loading
when
this
could
entirely
have
had
a
alley
in
and
rear
loading,
then
the
picture
to
your
upper
right
is
unique
in
that
it
does
have
smaller
ribbon
curves,
but
doesn't
make
full
use
of
the
alley
for
all
vehicle
loading
as
well,
as
does
not
have
any
front
facing
doors.
O
Here
are
some
proposed
examples
of
how
this
happens
as
well
is
where
again
we're
not
making
use
of
existing
alleys.
Excessive
pedestrian-
and
you
know,
crossings
the
one
on
the
lower
is
something
so
it's
been
brought
up
about.
The
recent
alum
peta
that
allowed
courtyards
by
right
across
the
entire
city.
O
This
one
on
the
bottom
is
a
project
by
that
developer
in
this
neighborhood
that
has
access
to
a
rear
and
a
side
alley.
The
side
alley
is
completely
unused
for
vehicle
loading.
This
is
something
that
our
civic
association
objected
to,
but
that
was
not.
The
design
exception
was
granted
nonetheless
by
staff,
and
you
could
get
much
different
design
outcomes
that
property
effectively
eliminates
all
on-street
parking
in
front
of
its
approximately
80
feet
of
street
frontage
because
of
this
design.
O
But
it's
not
all
a
negative
story.
There
are
compatible
examples.
The
difficulty
is
is
that
as
a
neighborhood
association
as
a
city
right
now,
given
the
fact
that
tampa
heights
outside
the
historic
district
is
only
covered
by
basic
city
land
development
code,
there's
no
real
way
to
intervene
until
something
goes
to
a
rezoning.
O
O
So
there
are
great
examples
happening,
and
this
is
what
we
want
to
codify
to
have
happen
without
staff
and
citizens
and
counsel
having
to
go
fight
all
these
again.
Some
of
these
designs
do
selectively
happen.
What
you
see
on
this
slide
is
all
compatible
examples
of
structures
that
were
built
post
2015
again
when
we
would
have
hoped
to
have
had
this
in
place.
But
what
you
can
see
are
three
of
these
photos
are
town
homes.
None
have
front-facing
garages
all
use
alley
loading
for
them.
O
What
you
see
on
the
top
left
is
a
new
single
family
home
that,
as
part
of
this
pita,
it
doesn't
ban
outright
vehicle
crossings
on
the
named
street.
It
just
incentivizes
use
of
the
alley
and
where
it
must
for
one
purpose
or
another,
use
that
street
that
it
limits
the
width.
So
here
you'd
see
a
limited
with
compatible
front
driveway.
O
Now
I
want
to
dive
into
the
commercial
portion
of
this
pita.
Initially,
it
was
intended
to
cover
just
residential
zoned
areas
again
because
we're
looking
at
this
as
a
strategic
and
surgical
approach
to
what's
going
on
again
tampa
heights
needs
a
more
much
deeper,
comprehensive
approach
to
all
of
our
zoning
in
our
urban
village.
But
in
order
to
catch
the
development,
that's
been
going
on
and
again
surgically
correct.
Some
of
those
issues,
as
things
are
being
built
day
by
day
in
our
neighborhood.
O
O
What
we
were
encouraged
to
do
was
make
additions
and
and
find
a
way
to
incentivize
more
commercial
development,
our
corridors,
hence
the
portion
of
this
pita
that
reduces
the
minimum
parking
requirements
for
commercial
properties
in
the
neighborhood.
So
what
you're,
seeing
on
your
screen
right
here
is
a
shining
example
of
the
lack
of
commercial
development
in
tampa
heights,
you're,
all
probably
familiar
with.
What's
going
on
in
the
the
armature
works
district
within
the
tampa
heights,
cra
south
of
the
interstate,
where
we're
cut
off
from
downtown
and
the
growth?
O
That's
happened
along
franklin
street
to
the
south
you're,
probably
also
aware
of
all
the
great
growth.
That's
happened
in
seminole
heights
on
florida
avenue
seminars
begins
at
east
martin
luther
king
boulevard,
going
north
and
all
of
the
michelin
award
winning
restaurants
that
go
in
along
florida
avenue
when
that
neighborhood
has
a
very
similar
urban
form
to
tampa
heights,
and
that
development
simply
has
not
happened
between
seminole
heights
and
downtown
smack.
Where
tampa
heights
lies,
and
part
of
that
issue
is
what's
highlighted
in
red.
O
Is
all
surface
parking,
so
the
picture
on
your
right
you'll
see
franklin
street,
which
is
one
of
our
key
urban
small
downtown
like
streets
that
we'd
like
to
to
fill
in
with
this
there's
a
reason
that
development
hasn't
crept
up
north
of
downtown
to
here
or
east
from
the
armature
works
site
is
because
there's
far
too
strict
of
parking
requirements
to
create
walkable
form.
Here.
O
The
same
goes
for
the
columbus
drive
and
tampa
street
and
florida
avenue
corridor,
which,
as
marked
in
our
neighborhood
plant,
is
the
node
of
tampa
heights.
Terabytes
is
separated
from
the
north
half
and
the
south
half
by
columbus
drive,
and
this
really
in
all
of
the
plans
that
have
been
created
for
tampa
heights
is
the
commercial
hub
of
the
neighborhood,
and
we
need
to
see
this
infilled
with
great
mixed-use
development.
O
But
it's
never
going
to
happen
with
such
high
parking
requirements
as
our
standard
in
the
city
code,
and
so
really
we
want
to
tackle
portions
of
this
peta
for
the
the
residential
incompatibility
and
incentivizing
use
of
those
alleys
to
limit
pedestrian
crossing.
We
want
a
more
walkable
community
and
we
want
more
commercial
development.
Incentivized
that's
going
to
serve
our
quickly
densifying
neighborhood.
O
Many
of
you
are
familiar
with
lee's
grocery
in
tampa
heights.
That's
one
of
our
key
models
that
we
put
out
there.
It's
been
voted
several
times
as
the
best
pizza
in
tampa
great
craft
beer
and
pizza
place
that
has
zero
off
street
parking
spots
and
so,
but
in
order
for
folks
to
take
the
risk
and
go
through
that,
there's
so
many
hoops
to
jump
through
in
order
to
be
granted
relief
from
these
parking
minimums.
O
So
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
presentation
and
open
for
questions
and
thank
you.
G
D
That
was
mentioned
by
the
applicant
as
something
that
would
come
in
the
future.
I
N
Good
afternoon,
nicole
travis
administrative
development
and
economic
opportunity,
any
business
improvement
district
or
any
special
attacks
in
the
district
would
have
to
come
before
this
body
would
have
to
go
through
extensive
public
comments.
So
it's
an
idea
by
the
applicant
and
it's
something
that
you
can
consider
at
a
at
a
future
time
and
request
more
information
on
that.
So
thank
you.
O
Correct,
if
I
could
chime
in
on
that
we,
we
are
not
requesting
that
as
a
part
of
this
overlay.
That
is
again
part
of
the
future
steps
that
we
would
like
to
take
and
discuss
with
council
and
city
staff.
A
Councilman
vieira's
point:
excuse
me
councilman
miranda's
point.
There
was
we
had
passed
something
about
alleyway
parking
that
has
been
challenged
repeatedly
since
it
has
gone
through
so
again,
I'm
hoping
that
that
the
standards
can
be
there
for
these
alleyways
so
that
that
alleyway
parking
is
not
challenged
repeatedly
over
and
over
and
over
again
any
other
comments
or
questions.
D
D
This
would
also
amend
27-156
as
a
part
of
this
request.
The
adus
were
will
be
allowed
as
a
permitted
use
within
the
tampa
heights
district.
So
that
would
amend
that
table.
I
did
not
list
the
code
sections
and
I
apologize
I'll
have
it
for
first
reading
in
the
slide
itself,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record.
Those
are
the
two
sections
of
change
with
this
request
and
that's
the
language
you
have
in
your
records.
J
Abby
feely,
based
on
your
direction
given
this
morning
in
creating
adus
throughout
the
city.
I
don't
know
that
we
would
need
to
change
the
use
table
in
order
to
allow
them
in
tampa
heights.
I
think
we're
going
to
now
have
them
throughout
the
city
as
a
specified
use,
so
I
can
discuss
that
with
ms
dock,
but
I
just
don't
think
that
we
probably
need
to
do
that
at
this
time.
So
adus
will
now
be
coming
forward
with
as
a
specified
use.
J
O
O
O
So
I
would
be
glad
to
discuss
how
that
can
be
appropriately
worded
in
this
text.
Amendment
with
staff
running
parallel
to
what
council
is
considering
city-wide
or
across
central
tampa,
but
but
I
do
want
to
be
sure
that
it
is
included
for
tampa
heights,
despite
what
action
may
or
may
not
happen
with
the
parallel
code
changes.
Thank
you.
P
P
There
are
mitigating
circumstances
when
you
can't
use
that
and
if
you
may
recall,
just
a
month
or
so
ago,
you
all
removed
that
requirement
from
the
west
tampa
overlay,
for
the
very
reasons
that
I'm
speaking
of
so,
if
you
want
to
make
the
use
of
the
alleys
recommended
as
opposed
to
mandated,
we
can
support
that,
but
once
you
start
mandating
exactly
how
you
design
a
building
and
how
you
access
it,
I
think
you
run
into
problems
because
temp
heights,
just
like
other
parts
of
the
city,
are
not
the
same.
It's
not
homogeneous.
P
It's
not
this.
You
know
throughout
the
whole
area,
you
have
different
widths
of
alleys.
You
have
different
lengths
and
widths
of
lots
and
you
have
different
circumstances.
So
that's
my
only
comment.
You
know.
I've
worked
with
brian,
quite
a
bit
and
supportive
of
the
other
recommendations
that
they're
making.
However,
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
you
not
mandate
the
access
via
an
alley.
P
L
O
So
I
believe
the
current
actual
language
does
require
it.
However,
there
are
relief
valves
for
that.
So
let
me
pull
this
up
and-
and
I
can
read
it
very
quickly
to
you-.
O
All
new
driveways
for
zoning
lots
less
than
70
feet
in
width,
shall
orient
all
new
vehicular
access
through
an
adjacent,
improved
alley.
Parcels
which
do
not
abut
an
alley
or
about
an
alley
that
is
not
navigable
by
vehicle,
may
improve
the
valley
of
city
standards
or
provide
alley
access
pursuant
to
the
the
table
below
for
parcels
with
existing
driveways,
which
will
remain
without
improvement,
shall
not
be
subject
to
this
criteria.
O
Modification
of
existing
driveways
are
sub
subject
to
this
criteria,
the
determination
of
the
zoning
administrator,
and
then
it
goes
into
a
little
bit
of
further
details
about
irregular
lots
and
and
such.
But
I
would
like
to
comment
that
this
is
the
the
first
I've
heard
of
opposition
from
mr
nicolini.
O
However,
really
making
this
watering
it
down
in
strength
is
really
going
to
defeat
some
of
the
purpose
of
this,
which
is
creating
a
walkable
community
through
good
urban
design,
and
I
might
add
that
we
have
publicly
advertised
this
peta
in
every
one
of
our
association
emails
for
over
a
year
as
well
as
posted
on
our
website.
Read
it
aloud
at
nearly
every
other
monthly
association
meeting.
If
not
discuss
certain
details
of
it.
O
I
have
not
received
any
written
opposition
over
the
course
of
the
year
from
anyone.
In
fact,
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
written
endorsement
by
others
in
the
development
community.
I
I
myself
am
in
the
real
estate
development
community
and
I
think
there's
some
that
may
disagree
with
this,
but
you
know
there's
going
to
be
others
that
support
it,
that
see
that
unique
historic
urban
village
character
that
the
comp
plan
talks
about
and
supports
and
all
other
documents
support.
O
This
is
a
way
to
help,
create
and
enforce
that
unique
character
and
so
we'd
be
glad
to
continue
working
with
everyone
in
the
development
community.
About
this.
Some
of
the
pictures
I've
showed
you
previously
in
the
presentation
of
what
we
call
incompatible
urban
design.
I
have
point
by
point
discussed
with
the
developer
of
three
of
those
properties
and
working
together
to
tweak
the
code
to
something
that's
palatable
to
that
community
and
and
we've
got
the
support
of
some
very
notable
developers
in
the
neighborhood.
O
I
know
adam
harden
of
soho
capital
wrote
to
you
all
this
week
in
support
of
that.
So
I
think
there
might
be
a
couple
that
that
could
oppose
it,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
is
anywhere
close
to
representative
of
the
development
community.
A
I
I
I
So
I
think
you
have
to
look
at
some
language
if
it
can
go
through
to
where
there
are
some
extenuating
circumstances,
because
every
block
it's
not
going
to
be
a
driveway,
you
have
some
allies
that
have
big
trees
in
them.
You
look
over
on
amelia
now
with
the
alleyway,
with
the
flooding
with
the
alley
over
there
as
well.
I
So
I
got
some
concerns
about
manning
in
the
alley,
because
you
know
we're
not
fixing
the
alleys
and
I
don't
know
if
the
developers
are
going
to
fix
an
alley,
because
when
I
look
again
on
emilia
with
the
pool
with
with
the
the
the
new
construction
of
buildings
going
up
higher
and
those
other
lower
flooding,
there.
D
I
A
lot
of
concerns-
and
so
I'm
kind
of
I
have
some
concerns
about
just
saying
man
in
the
alley.
I
think,
though
it
has
to
be
some-
maybe
some
extremely
circumstances,
but
I
I
just
really
really
don't
know
about
mending
that
closure
of
the
alleys
councilwoman.
L
We
haven't
maintained
those
and
no,
it
is
our
problem
and
we
we
have
to
go
through
and
work
on,
those
in
the
west
tampa
overlay
they're,
requiring
developers
to
fix
those,
or
rather
developers,
are
choosing
to
fix
those,
and
if
you
want
to
come
into
a
an
urban
neighborhood
like
tampa
heights,
I
mean
this
is
how
this
this
neighborhood
develop.
I
mean:
do
you
know
how
hard
it
is
to
bike
on
a
street
like
that
with
constant
driveways?
L
G
I
can
only
tell
you
that
there
are
some
alleys
on
west
nampa
that
are
built
where
you
have
to
enter
through
the
back
there's
one
on
the
corner
of
spruce
and
macdill
that
the
new
development
that
was
done
there
you
park
in
the
back
there's
a
house
that
was
currently
built
on
just
in
the
corner
of
magdalene
across
the
street,
from
saint
joe's
school
that
you
park
in
the
back,
but
there's
many
many
allies
in
west
tampa.
G
First
of
all
that
have
been
closed
since
the
30s,
and
maybe
they
didn't
even
have
one
because
I
wasn't
around
in
the
30s,
but
I
was
close
to
it.
The
next
thing
was
there's
some
alleys
and
you
say
it's
a
city
problem.
Well,
it's
the
city's
problem.
If
it's
not
the
city's
property,
then
the
city's
going
to
have
to
buy
the-
I
don't
know
where
the
alley's
in
I
don't.
I
don't
have
that
information,
I'm
not
trying
to
debate
anyone,
but
I
really
don't
know
what
the
specifications
were.
West
ham
has
got
about.
G
Five
different
zonings:
you
can
have
a
35-foot
lot.
You
can
have
an
80-foot
lot
next
to
it,
there's
many
things
with
tampa.
That
makes
sense
and
don't
make
sense.
I
can't
cast
a
net
and
catch
a
mullet.
If
I'm
looking,
I
may
catch
a
shark
or
I
may
catch
a
minnow
in
west
hampton,
because
the
alleys
are
different.
That's
all
I'm
saying.
P
If
I
could
counsel
just
for
a
minute,
I'm
not
saying
do
away
with
the
record
with
the
request:
just
don't
mandate
it
when
you
have
mitigating
circumstances
and
there
are
plenty
of
them
and
if
you
have
a
mixed
project
where
you
have
single
family
and
multi-family
or
townhouses,
you
can
access
the
alley
off
of
a
portion
of
it,
but
not
on
the
single
family
side.
P
So
you
know
there
are
some
conditions
that
you
can't
simply
meet
and
I
think
that
by
producing
that
mandate
after
you
just
remove
the
mandate
from
west
tampa,
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
But
I
appreciate
your
time-
and
you
know
we'll
be
talking
about
in
the
future.
I'm
sure
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Thank
you
without
mr
seal
and
chambers,
it's
a
little
bit
difficult,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
a
friendly
amendment
so
right
now
for
the
adus.
Those
are
a
special
use,
one
in
seminole
heights
and
in
the
other
area
by
sulfur
springs,
and
if
we
could
amend
this
request
to
also
let
this
be
an
s-1
here.
I
understand
he
wants
it
to
move
forward
and
not
delay
until
we
come
back
handling
this
city-wide.
J
If
we
could
do
that
because
by
allowing
it
as
a
permitted
use
with
those
criteria,
there's
no
appellate
right
now
the
way
that
he
has
it
written
if
they
don't
meet
one
of
those
criteria
for
it
to
find
a
way
to
you
to
then
allow
for
it.
So
if
we
put
it
in
as
an
s1,
that's
consistent
with
the
way
code
is
right
now
for
those
other
two
areas.
O
Quickly
without
further
sort
of
details
or
the
ability
to
confer
with
the
tampa
heights
civic
association
board
of
directors-
I
I
initially
could
say:
yes,
that
appears
to
be
a
reasonable
and
legal
friendly
amendment.
But
again,
while
this
may
be
legally
filed
under
my
name
because
of
the
city
requirements.
This
is
an
effort
of
the
civic
association.
So
I
I
cannot
fully
and
completely
commit
to
that
without
their
feedback.
J
That's
okay.
We
still
have
some
time,
I
think
so.
If
he
would
like
to
go
back
to
his
board
and
figure
that
out,
I
think
we
still
have
an
opportunity
to
take
care
of
that
in
that
way,
if
not
we'll
need
to
work
through
it
as
a
permitted
use,
but
right
now,
they're
not
permitted
anywhere
in
the
city.
So
I'd
like
to
try
to
continue
to
have
our
code
be
consistent
until
such
time
we
handle
it
as
a
matter
city-wide.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
council,
ricky
pedrica,
I
reside
in
tampa
heights
historic
district
and
my
firm,
dark
moss
also
is
located
in
the
tampa
heights
historic
district
early
on
in
the
crafting
of
this
overlay
guidance,
I
verbally
expressed
my
some
reservations.
I
had
to
mr
seal
about
some
of
the
provisions.
K
I
think
most
of
those
have
been
shed
since
tying
to
the
vision
plan
goals
of
pedestrian
walkability
in
urban
form,
but
I
have
some
minor
concerns
that
I
don't
want
to
derail
anything
per
se.
But
I'd
like
to
ask
if
there's
a
mechanism
that
you
can
request
some
consideration
for
these
as
it
continues
to
move
forward,
then
I
I'd
ask
that
you
do
that.
If
I
could
just
go
through
three
points,
one
is
we
go
to
the
elmo.
K
There
is
a
blanket
exclusion
of
chain
link
fencing
and
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
I'm
defending
chain
link,
but
there
is
a
a
character
of
limited
chain
link
usage
throughout
the
neighborhood,
historically
and
and
even
in
some
modern
times,
including
in
the
historic
district
that
I
don't
think,
a
blanket
exclusion
is
the
intent
of
the
guidelines
in
any
location
in
the
neighborhood.
K
That's
major,
but
I
just
want
to
kind
of
point
out
and
I'll
resolve
the
rest
of
these
together.
You've
been
beating
up
this
alley
issue
and
I
don't
disagree
with
the
intent
of
wanting
to
use
the
alleys.
I
have
an
alley
and
I
use
it
on
my
corner
of
central
and
amelia
and
on
my
office
on
7th
avenue,
but
I
know
that
there's
technical
standards
associated
with
parking
that
it's
you
can't
parallel
without
a
parallel
park
on
the
alley
without
a
design,
exception,
42
feet,
including
the
alley.
K
So
my
concern
here,
not
necessarily
the
mandate,
but
the
unintentional
consequences
on
the
rear
yard
site
plan
design
by
pushing
that
to
without
a
further
understanding
of
what
that
may
do
to
the
urban
form
on
those
sections
of
the
property.
So
I'm
not
averse
to
the
intent
just
that
I
feel
like
it
needs
a
lesson
from
the
tree
code
is
that
this
stuff
needs
to
be
borne
out
in
practice.
K
Finally-
and
this
may
not
be
necessary-
miss
philly
just
spoke
to
it,
but
I
think
there
was
an
unintentional
exclusion
in
the
way
the
language
was
written,
that
adus
not
be
permitted
in
multi-family
districts,
which
I
know
that's
not
the
intent,
but
that
is
a
way
that
I
think
this
language
can
be
read,
and
so
I'm
not
asking
you
to
change
the
approach
just
to
just
to
give
some
consideration
to
the
very
very
fine
points
of
some
of
these
these
provisions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Afternoon,
council
camila
soto
resident
at
105
west
francis
tampa
heights
resident
right
off
the
bat
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of.
Let
the
council
know
I'm
in
full.
Support
of
the
proposed
overlay,
I
think
what's
proposed
here,
is
actually
less
onerous
and
less
regulatory
than
the
current
historic
overlay
that
exists
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
the
tampa
heights
district.
Q
For
the
life
of
me,
I
haven't
yet
to
get
a
very
clear
answer
as
to
why
only
that
southeast
district
got
the
historic
overlay
when
it
did
when
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
has,
or
had
a
very
similar
housing
stock,
which
has
been
whittled
away
and
and
torn
down.
But
I
did
want
to
take
advantage
of
the
rest
of
my
time
to
kind
of
address.
Some
of
the
council
folks
comments
in
particular
to
councilman
goodes
mandating,
what's
done
with
the
alleyways,
that's
that
cat's
out
of
the
bag.
Q
Unless
I
remind
you
I
I
came
on,
I
spoke
to
the
council
about
mandating
the
asphalting
of
these
alleyways
on
new
development
and
and
mind
you,
I
think
councilman
miranda
mentioned
west
tampa
and
how
there's
there's
these
pockets
of
asphalted
alleyways.
Those
asphalted
alleyways
that
currently
exist,
no
civil
engineering
review
was
required.
No
stormwater
engineering
reviews
required.
Q
Q
We
want
to
encourage
the
use
of
these
alleyways.
How
can
can
we
as
a
city,
encourage
vision,
zero
and
then
and
then
not
not
encourage
the
use
of
these
alleyways?
We
want
a
pedestrian
urban
core,
let's
be
responsible,
as
far
as
how
we
develop
and
work
with
the
development
community
right
we're
going
to
mandate
the
asphalt
we're
going
to
mandate
that
they,
you
know,
direct
the
overflow
of
pools.
Q
Q
Finally,
I
think
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day
this
is.
This
is
a
very
good
thing
that
I
think
the
development
community
will
still
be
able
to.
You
know,
make
a
profit,
we'll
still
be
able
to
maintain
the
character
of
this
neighborhood
for
years
to
come,
and
I
think
everyone
will
be
able
to.
Q
I
think,
get
to
a
point
where
this
this
this
code
is,
is
amenable
to
all
parties
involved,
and
so
we
should
really
support
it,
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
council
today
set
it
up
for
the
next
meeting
and
just
continue
allowing
the
civic
association
and
all
parties
involved
continue
working
with
staff
to
get
this
really.
You
know
finalized
after
so
many
years
that
it's
been
talked
about.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
How
we're
going
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
the
turn
of
vehicle
in
now,
just
I'm
just
looking
at
the
what
ifs
I'm
all
about,
if
you
can
get
it
back
there
or
we
can,
the
developer
wants
to
build
it
to
do
whatever.
I
have
no
issue,
but
I'm
just
saying
the
word
mandate
means
you
have
to
have
to
do
it
and
I
don't
know
we
may
run
into
some
challenges.
Some
legal
challenges.
L
You
know
we
just
talked
sort
of
about
this
a
little
bit
earlier
when
we
were
talking
about
the
percentage
of
commercial
for
multi-use
buildings,
and
we
said
hey,
let's,
let's
aim
higher
and
then
have
them
come
back
if
they
can't
make
it-
and
I
feel
like
that.
This
is
the
same
exact
example
where
we
say
we
say
that
they
need
to
do
it
and
if
they
can't,
they
have
to
come
back
and
prove
it.
L
That
way,
I
mean
that's
what
we're
doing
with
other
things,
and
so
this
way
anybody
who's
going
in
to
develop
is
is
looking
at
the
idea
of
what
the
neighborhood
wants,
which
is
to
use
the
alleys
and
then,
if
they
can't
make
it
work,
they
can
come
to
staff,
they
can
come
to
council
and
and
argue
their
point.
G
I
just
want
to
read
what
I've
said.
I
mean
what
I've
heard
now
from
two
council
members,
basically
saying
I'm
not
against
people
parking
in
the
back,
but
to
throw
a
blanket
cupboard.
You
must
have
a
study
done,
I'm
just
talking
about
west
tampa
right
now.
Where
is
where
I
live?
There's
no
alleys,
the
block
behind
me
in
this
valley,
but
maybe
three
blocks
away,
there's
an
alley,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
eight
foot
wide
or
ten
foot
wide
or
twelve
foot
wide.
A
A
A
A
L
A
B
J
L
C
D
C
B
B
All
right
so
I'll
say
yes
with
the
ability
to
ask
for
that
modification
in
the
future,
so
this
is
not
finalized.
Today,.
G
A
N
Again,
good
afternoon,
what
I
was
going
to
say
is:
this
is
the
same
situation.
What
you're
debating
right
now
is
what
we
have
in
west
tampa
and
we
mandate
it.
The
developers
come
in
and
appeal
it.
We
end
up
bringing
that
before
you,
because
we
don't,
as
staff,
don't
have
the
ability
to
approve
it
and
then
what's
happening.
Is
they
appeal
it
and
then
council
approves
it
anyway.
So
when
you're
talking
about
adding
regulatory.
N
Timelines
to
things
that
you're
already
going
to
approve
we're
trying
to
unwind
some
of
that,
so
we're
just
looking
at
what
we
did
in
west
tampa
how
it's
working
now
and
so,
as
we
come
back,
and
we
workshop
this
a
little
more
we'll
be
able
to
bring
to
you
examples
of
where
that
has
occurred
in
west
tampa.
But
it's
not
lost
on
me.
What
councilman
heart
attack
is
is
saying.
L
Yeah
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
that's
the
communities
the
neighborhoods
are
coming
to
me
and
saying
they
really
want
these
alleys.
They
want
people
to
use
them,
and
I
part
of
me
feels
like
the
developer
needs
to
have.
I
mean
if
they
want
the
garages
back
there,
they
need
to
make
space
for
it
and
we're
going
we're
going
into
a
lot
of
these
communities.
L
Now
that
haven't
been
touched
in
years
and
they're
scared
of
development
and
they're
trying
to
find
ways
to
make
it
work-
and
I
think
this
honestly
goes
along
with
the
community
benefit
agreement
thing
to
some
degree
where
we
have
to
look
at
what
the
community
wants,
as
well
as
developers
want,
and
these
are
historic
neighborhoods.
L
You
know,
cars
are
not
as
small
as
they
used
to
be,
but
there
has
to
be
a
way
I
mean
you
look
at
south
tampa.
Those
alleys
are
teeny,
tiny
and
no
one
is
making
that
complaint
over
there.
N
I
think
another
way
for
us
to
look
at
this,
too,
is
whatever
the
appeal
process
is.
Maybe
there
are
certain
criteria
that
if
it
meets
a
certain
criteria,
it
could
be
staff
approved
instead
of
having
to
put
in
the
queue
and
come
before
council?
Because
hearing
you
discuss
this,
we
understand
the
intent
in
wanting
to
use
the
alleys
where
appropriate,
where
feasible
when
possible.
N
G
G
And
you
know
I'm
going
back
to
the
alleys
and
the
other
things,
and
I
remember
a
lot
of
development
happening
much
time
back.
Not
only
did
you
have
a
house
that
had
a
driveway
going
in,
but
you
had
a
curve
that
was
made
out
of
what
granite
that
was
about
eight
inches
high,
four
or
five
inches
wide,
so
that
you,
what
you
saw
the
flooding
problem
it
would
water
would
run
somewhere.
N
I
think
just
the
one
last
thing
just
to
remember
this
is
a
privately
initiated.
Amendment
and
staff
has
asked
the
applicant
to
look
at
the
language,
and
so
just
hearing
you
do
that.
It's
not
publicly
initiated
and
it's
you
know,
so
I
think
you
can
make
that
request
of
the
applicant
and
understanding
what
your
expectations
are
when
this
comes
back
to
you.
D
Yes,
council.
Thank
you
so
much
lashonda
development
coordination,
and
this
is
the
last
privately
initiated
amendment
we
have
for
today.
The
applicant
is
angela
robert.
This
is
a
request
to
amend
the
cbd,
the
central
business
district
sign
code
requirements,
so
this
would
consider
some
amendment
to
what's
allowed
as
far
as
on
building
science
placements
and
orientation
of
signage,
and
this
would
be
contained
within
the
central
business
district.
Only
and
staff
has
no
objections
to
this
request
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
online.
She
was
going
to
participate
virtually.
R
Okay,
I
also
have
a
very,
very
short
presentation
if
I
can
share
my
screen.
R
Okay,
if
you
can
see
it,
then
that's
what
matters.
I
wanted
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
goals
of
this
text:
amendment
it's
with
the
current
central
business
district
sign
regulations.
When
the
code
was
updated
a
few
years
ago
to
go
to
a
form
base
code,
the
sign
code
was
left
largely
untouched.
R
There
were
some
changes
that
were
made
to
make
sure
that
the
buildings
were
oriented
at
the
on
the
first
level
of
the
building
and
on
the
top
level
of
the
building,
but
all
of
the
other
regulations
concerning
the
types
of
signs,
the
sizes
of
signs
and
so
forth.
R
You
have
to
go
back
to
other
parts
of
the
code
that
are
designed
for
a
more
suburban
form.
The
changes
we're
proposing
are
to
to
match
a
more
downtown
commercial
form,
so
the
first
proposed
amendment
would
allow
building
signage
to
be
oriented
towards
any
building,
friendship
or
signage,
to
be
oriented
towards
any
building
frontage,
not
only
the
portion
that
is
oriented
towards
the
primary
entrance.
R
If
you
imagine
in
a
downtown
environment
where
businesses
are
located
on
upper
stories,
you
want
to
be
clear
that
there's
not
a
front
door
there's
there
could
be
one
front
door
for
the
entire
building,
but
that
may
be
not
related
to
where
the
actual
business
is
and
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
utilize
all
four
side.
Four
sides
of
the
building.
R
Now
one
thing
I
would
say
about
all
of
these
changes
proposed
changes
is
that,
right
now
we
can
get
some
of
these
provisions
through
design
exceptions,
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
avoid
that
need
for
a
design
exception
by
and
streamline
kind
of
what
staff
is
doing
and
streamline
everybody's
time.
Make
sure
that
the
developer
has
some
predictability
before
they
have
to
go
through
a
process.
R
We
would
like
an
exception
where
the
two
sides-
the
two
signs,
are
actually
located
on
different
sides
of
the
building,
and
that
would
allow,
as
you
can
see
in
this
picture
of
this
illustration,
for
corner
signage,
to
be
less
than
10
feet
apart.
R
The
proposed
amendment
number
3,
currently
the
way
the
sign
code
is
written
for
signs.
It
allows
each
retail
front
to
have
a
variety
of
different
sign
types.
We
want
to
change
the
mix
to
give
more
flexibility
to
retail
businesses
that
want
to
have
signage
a
variety
of
signage
types.
Maybe
they
have
a
combination
of
building
side,
which
is
on
a
wall,
a
projecting
sign
and
a
canopy
sign,
and
also
to
be
able
to
do
some
unique
signage
types
to
accommodate,
building
logos
or
business
logos
or
some
kind
of
unique
design
into
the
signage
type.
R
This
illustration
gives
kind
of
an
example
of
the
existing
code.
Where
there's
you
can
see
that
the
the
mix
is
not
very
dynamic,
it
requires
uniformity,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
achieve
that
uniformity
because
you
still
get
a
mix
of
signage
types
and
what
we're,
what
we're
proposing,
doesn't
actually
add
additional
signage
to
the
building,
but
it
allows
the
the
businesses
to
have
some
variety
and
then
other
than
that
I
I
have
nothing
else
to
present.
If
you
have
questions
we
can
answer
those.
B
So,
basically
we're
going
back
to
downtown
of
the
the
mid
20th
century,
because
there
we
had
science
like
that
before
we
tore
everything
down
and
before
we
took
off
all
the
neon
and
all
that,
but
it
was
all
pedestrian
based.
That's
why,
in
some
of
the
existing
historic
buildings,
you'll
see
the
name
of
the
shops
at
the
at
the
floor
level,
so
when
pedestrians
walk,
they
can
see
it.
You
can
see
this
on
north
franklin
street
and
we're
just
going
back
to
that.
G
G
An
address
streets
like
dale,
mabry,
half
of
them,
you
can't
find
where
you're
going
and
it's
difficult
throughout
the
city
for
a
tourist
or
somebody
that
lives
close
by
to
come
in
and
travel
one
of
our
main
arteries.
You
don't
know
where
you're
at
because
you
can't
read
the
signs.
That's
true
yeah!
Thank
you.
A
Any
of
the
comments
or
questions
councilman
hertag-
I
you
know-
I
I've
lived
in
this
city
for
60
years.
Excuse
me,
I'm
sorry,
40
years,
sometimes
I
still
have
to
use
maps
and
waze
and
other
apps
on
my
phone
just
to
get
around
all
right.
What
is
the
pleasure
of
council
a
public
comment?
Yes,
and
I've
got
to
go
to
the
same
three
people,
mr
sotomayor,
miss
poynter
and
soto.
Are
you
on
the
line.
B
I
A
N
L
D
At
vote
and
chairman
and
council,
thank
you
so
much
lashonda
development
coordination.
I
just
wanted
to
review
with
you
and
for
the
public,
the
the
processing
schedule.
So
just
so,
the
public
has
an
idea.
The
next
steps
will
be
the
planning
commission
briefing
will
be
held
in
july.
Then
the
planning
commission
public
hearing
in
august,
and
then
we
will
be
back
before
council
before
you
in
september
for
first
reading.
D
Schedule,
thank
you
so
much
council,
and
just
so
you
know
this.
We
have
two
additional
which
abby
mentioned
earlier
this
morning.
There
are
two
additional
privately
initiated
text
amendments
which
are
currently
in
process
now
that
would
complete
the
remainder
of
the
privately
initiated
text,
amendments
that
we
have
in
cycle
and
then
we
will
move
to
all
publicly
initiated
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
today.
M
Good
afternoon,
council
rob
rosner
director
of
academic
opportunity.
We
pull
up
the
slide
deck.
Please.
M
Next
slide,
please
so
we
had
a
okay.
My
apologies
thank
you.
So
we
included
a
memo
with
this
agenda
item
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
that
with
you
and
then
our
process
through
the
public
engagement
process.
So
just
to
summarize,
what
my
memo
says
is
that
we
made
these
engagements.
M
M
The
presentation
that
we
made
was
about
10
minutes
long.
Each
time
we
gave
a
higher
level
overview
of
what
a
cba
was,
and
then
we
opened
it
up
to
community
to
allow
them
to
tell
us
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
their
neighborhood
and
what
they
how
they
could
see,
this
being
a
benefit
to
them,
and
what
does
that
mean
for
them
as
a
community.
M
M
So
we
did
a
question
and
answer
statement
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half
each
time,
and
then
I
just
fielded
a
number
of
calls
afterwards
that
was
able
to
fill
in
a
number
of
constituents
that
had
additional
questions
and
then
we
stopped
by
each
of
the
different
cacs
that
had
additional
questions
and
addressed
those.
M
M
Average
response
was
about
a
minute
long
and
it
was
completed
in
the
20
on
the
27th.
So
the
first
one
was
were
you
aware
of
it?
Do
you
know
what
it
is?
So
we
sell
about
a
little
more
than
half
did
understand
it,
but
the
the
other
half
wasn't
sure.
So
this
education
process
was
very
useful,
so
this
is
just
a
heat
map
of
where
we
saw
our
responses
from
so
it
looks
like
we
had
fairly
good
coverage
now.
M
Our
intent
for
this
was
just
to
see
if
the
community
was
interested
in
this
being
either
a
policy
action
or
if
this
should
be
created
as
an
ordinance.
So
we
didn't
hit
every
single
neighborhood
in
the
in
the
city,
but
we
was
open
to
everybody
and
it
was
just
to
get
a
sense
of
if
this
is
a
good
idea
or
not.
M
So
the
things
that
we
heard
from
the
results
were
that
recreational
and
expansion,
experiential
type
amenities,
were
the
ones
that
that
were
most
favored.
Obviously,
there
was
affordable
housing
on
this,
and
workforce
development
was
not
as
high
as
I
thought
it
would
be,
but
it
was
still
significant
and
then,
on
the
other.
This
is
kind
of
a
mashup
of
the
different
things
that
we
saw.
M
M
So
with
that,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
memo
that
we,
we
sent
an
email
out
to
the
developers
that
had
all
done
work
with
us
in
the
past,
and
we
got
a
number
that
came
back
and
for
the
most
part
what
we
heard
was
they
were
supportive
of
it.
They
just
didn't
want
it
to
slow
down
the
process,
but
they
like
the
idea
of
engaging
early
than
trying
to
figure
out
after
the
fact
what
we
should
be
doing
and
they
like
hearing
from
the
community,
because
they'd
rather
address
the
community
early
instead
of
being
reactionary.
M
So
I
think
the
powerpoint
disappeared
if
we
can
get
it
back
for
one
second,
okay,
so
just
as
the
requested
action
that
we
have
for
you
is
that
we'd
like
to
you
know,
if
you're
in
favor
of
supporting
the
community
benefits
agreements.
You
know
we
request
that
a
motion
in
favor
of
staff
coming
back
in
the
future.
Six
to
eight
months
to
do
the
proper
public
engagement
with
initial
the
initial
language
and
the
whole
of
public
forums.
M
Oh
I'm!
Sorry,
I
thought
is
there
any
other
further
items
for
consideration
or
inclusion
of
this
matters
we're
here
to
listen
to
what
your
thoughts
are.
I
A
couple
of
things
I
don't
know
where
we
at
with
the
engagement,
because
I
I
did
get
calls
about
some
concerns.
I
think
I
told
you
and
ms
travis
about
those
concerns,
hope
we
are
addressing
those
and
continue
working
on
those.
Now,
I'm
looking
at
your
date
of
february
16
2023,
I
think
this
has
been
on
the
table
for
a
while.
Now.
M
I
M
So
the
public
engagement
process
we
wanted
to
make
sure
there
was
plenty
of
time
to
hit
the
74
different
neighborhoods
that
there
are,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
there's
a
plenty
time
to
get
the
proper
public
engagement,
and
we
know
that
between
now
and
there's
holidays
and
other
things
that
can
really
you
know,
have
an
issue
on
that
effect.
I
M
Well,
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
address
every
one
of
them.
Ideally
we're
gonna
do
eight
or
ten
at
a
time
and
of
course,
that's
part
of
what
we
will
you
work
with
our
neighboring
departments
to
make
sure
we
engage
the
public
properly
again
and
make
sure
everybody's
heard
before
we
we
get
this
through.
I
I
C
Me
see,
let
me
introduce
real
quickly,
I
mean,
as
you
all
will
remember.
We
have
all
ins
already
instituted
a
cra
policy
that
requires
a
community
benefits
agreement
if
the
city
is
providing
a
half
million
dollars
or
more
of
in
value
of
land
or
money
into
toward
a
project.
So
we
already
are
instituting
that
and
we
are
already
entered
into
our
first
community
benefits
agreement
relative
to
the
to
the
room
yard
development
as
well.
So
right,
that's
the
first
one.
We.
I
I
It
back
to
you,
we
can
certainly
do
that.
I'm
just
looking
at
the
20th
23,
I
mean
that's
that's
a
long
time
and
I
think
we
can.
We
can
move
along
and
get
these
neighbors
association
and
call
them
together
and
come
up
and
see
what
they're
talking
about,
because
we
know
what
the
benefit's
about
it's
about,
if
someone's
coming
in
that
neighborhood
and
building
making
sure
that
the
neighborhood
is
is,
is
on
board,
make
sure
what
is
the
benefit
the
neighborhood
is
going
to
get
out
of
that.
That's
what
it's
all
about.
I
C
I
J
A
H
H
H
All
of
you
made
that
promise
now
a
lobbyist
has
divided
this
council
from
those
of
you
that
are
still
listening
and
those
of
you
that
want
a
discussion
to
be
over
quickly,
so
you
can
rubber
stamp
another
set
of
plans.
I
ask
that
you
support
the
community
benefit
agreement
as
a
beginning
for
dialogue
between
developers,
communities
and
the
city.
Thank
you.
A
B
Thank
you.
This
is
stephanie
poynter,
again
community-based
agreements.
I
would
have
loved
to
have
been
at
the
meetings.
Maybe
I
heard
I've.
Never
in
my
time,
in
leadership
in
the
neighborhood
associations
had
so
many
complaints
about
a
meeting
as
I
was
as
I
received
about
the
first
community
benefits
agreement
meeting.
I
bet
you,
I
had
15
emails
about
it.
I
think
the
community-based
agreement
is
ingenious.
B
I
think
it
shouldn't
just
be
for
land
that
is
controlled
by
the
city.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
different
sort
of
method,
just
like
the
one
that
carol
anne
and
I
brought
with
southeastern
in
the
last
couple
weeks
where
we
created
a
community
based
agreement
with
them
in
order
to
get
affordable
housing.
I
think
our
citizens
are
becoming
more
savvy,
as
was
shown
by
the
tampa
heights
presentation
of
their
peta,
which
I
support.
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
speak
on
that.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
understand
that
community-based
means
that
the
neighborhoods
are
involved
and,
if
we're
not,
then
we're
not
getting
anywhere.
Bottom
line
is
and
even
carol
anne
and
I
both
have
learned
by
going
to
different
neighborhoods.
We
talked
to
different
neighborhoods
about
hey,
you
need
affordable
housing
and
they
said
no.
We
have
plenty
and
we're
like
wow,
that's
the
first
time.
B
We've
ever
heard
that,
because
only
the
neighborhoods
know
about
the
neighborhood
and
no
matter
how
many
times
we
drive
through
there,
you
don't
know
what
that
red
light
is
going
to
impact
until
you
live
there.
So
I
think
that,
including
this
and
and
just
like
sandy
said
I
have
to
I
have
to
ring
through
on
everything.
She
said
that
the
neighbor
noticed,
which
we've
been
talking
to
you
guys
about
everybody,
but
councilman
miranda
has
spoke
with
us
about
the
good
neighbor
notice.
B
We
hope
to
get
an
appointment
with
you,
charlie,
so
please
take
into
consideration
and
please
move
forward
with
this
community
benefits
agreement
and
the
neighborhoods
would
love
to
help
with
this
situation.
C
I
do
want
to
make
it
clear
to
council
and
to
the
public
as
well.
The
community
benefits
agreement
process
cannot
be
associated
with
any
entitlement.
Approval
processes
can't
be
your
rezoning
can't
be
contingent
upon
it.
Special
use
approval
cannot
be
contingent
upon
it.
This
is
only
done
in
situations
where
really
the
developer
has
to
work
with
the
city
in
some
regards.
C
That's
really
how
it
has
to
be
done
legally,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
all
aware
of
that
limiting
parameter
on
what
we
can
do
with
relative
to
community
benefits
agreements,
but
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
worried
about
me
there's
nothing
really
to
transmit
this
time.
I
think
they
they
have
some
further
work
to
do
to
bring
it
back,
but
I
think
they're
looking
for
a
date
in
october
to
bring
back
a
draft
ordinance,
maybe
for
further
discussions.
I
I
think
they
can
do
it
all
within
this
time.
I
think
october
october
6
good
for
you,
brother.
M
Come
back
with
the
with
the
draft
language.
B
E
B
I
N
I
am
going
to
come
up
here
and
defend
my
staff
for
a
minute,
please,
because
they're
going
to
keep
nodding
and
trying
to
do
it,
and
so
allow
me
for
a
minute,
you're,
the
boss.
Okay,
the
amount
of
work
that
we're
doing
with
community
engagement
on
all
of
our
housing
issues.
All
of
the
things
that
we're
standing
up
all
of
the
engagement
we're
a
limited
team
and
I'm
there's.
N
N
If
we
bring
that
ordinance
draft
ordinance
back
to
you,
you
will
have
public
comment
related
to
that
in
order
for
us
to
touch
every
single
neighborhood,
where
it
may
not
apply
into
can
to
make
sure
that
the
residents
understand
that
it
cannot
be
community
benefits.
Agreements
cannot
be
associated
with
any
entitlement
decisions,
that's
brought
before
this
body,
and
so
if
we
wanted
to
bring
it
back
to
you
in
october,
I
believe
that
we
can
do
that,
but
we
cannot
do
the
kind
of
outreach
that
you're
expecting
and
asking
for
by
october.
N
It
will
be
a
public
meeting.
We
will
make
sure
that
the
word
is
out
that
this
draft
ordinance
is
going
to
be
before
you,
but
I
I'm
going
to
stand
up
here
and
even
though
they're
going
to
agree
to
things
I'm
saying
like
at
some
point,
please
allow
us
to
do
the
work.
We
cannot
do
all
this
public
engagement
by
october.
I
C
Maybe
you
may
want
to
look
at.
I
don't
know,
what's
on
your
october
workshop
agenda,
but
maybe
that's
the
appropriate
time
and
then
it
can
be
brought
back
for
a
discussion
in
a
another
workshop
setting,
so
the
public
can
engage
with
council
and
you
all
can
talk
about
what
how
that
the
ordinance
language
may
need
to
be
tweaked
at
that
time.
I
P
I
A
I
I
For
community
ordinance
to
come
back
draft
and
come
back
on
october,
20th
second.
L
A
C
Yeah
just
really
fast,
if
I
may,
I
I
want,
for
the
october
2022
workshop
for
staff
to
come
back
on
ideas.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
our
former
mayor
buckhorn,
did
a
autism
friendly
tampa
and
I'd
like
to
look
at
ideas,
how
we
can
improve
city
services
to
the
extent
that
we
can
and
I'm
sure
they
can
for
people
who
are
hard
of
hearing
and
deaf.
C
I
know
I've.
We
all
know
a
lot
of
good
folks,
including
d.c,
gustafs
and
and
others
who
are
very,
very
passionate
about
that
issue.
So
just
putting
that
out
there.
If
I
may.
A
You
have
a
motion
made
by
councilman
vr
seconded
by
councilman
maniscalco,
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
C
And
then
one
other
thing
if
I
made
this
is
an
emotion
but
just
for
the
public.
C
I
saw
an
article
that
someone
sent
me
that
our
hillsborough
county
animal
shelter
is
a
500
of
capacity
and
there's
a
free
adoption
day
saturday,
where
all
way
all
fees
for
hillsborough
county
are
going
to
be
reduced,
I'm
going
to
be
going
tomorrow
to
falkenberg
to
the
pet
resource
center
to
try
to
promote
this,
but
just
for
the
city
and
others
to
promote
this,
for
there
are
so
many
animals
out
there
who
who
need
a
good
home
and
that's
a
great
opportunity.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilman.