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From YouTube: TCC Pt.2 2/16/23
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A You Tube issue caused the livestream to drop the last 13 minutes of the meeting. The missing 13 minutes is posted in the "Tampa City Council 2023" playlist, and the "Videos" playlist.
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E
If
you'll
indulge
me,
I
think
it's
important
in
order
to
understand
the
role
of
the
citizens
review
board
attorney,
it's
important
that
everyone
who's
opining
on
this
understands
the
role
of
the
crb
itself,
just
as
a
reminder,
under
the
ordinance
that
created
the
crb,
the
crb
reviews
closed
investigations
of
police
officers.
It
provides
a
recommendation
as
to
whether
the
crb
concurs
with
the
discipline
that
was
imposed
or
doesn't
concur
under
the
ordinance.
E
They
have
the
right
to
submit
a
complaint
to
the
criminal
justice
standards
and
training
commission
in
certain
circumstances,
as
provided
by
the
code
and
the
Florida
Statutes,
as
the
ordinance
was
last
amended,
they
also
have
a
role
participating
in
the
hiring
process
for
police
officers.
They
review
a
monthly
list
of
complaints
made
about
police
officers
that
conduct
an
annual
community
survey
and
they
may
ask
to
review
matters
of
importance
or
interests.
E
What
they
cannot
do
is
impose
any
discipline
themselves
that
there's
a
police
officer's
Bill
of
Rights
in
the
state
of
Florida
and
that
precludes
any
citizens
review
panel.
In
the
state
from
doing
anything
other
than
making
recommendations,
but
again
they
can't
themselves
impose
discipline.
So
then,
what
is
the
role
of
the
crb
attorney?
E
E
When
the
crb
wants
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
police
chief,
they
would
prepare
that
they
help
make
arrangements
for
the
meeting,
for
instance,
again
as
amended
in
2021.
The
board
meets
in
each
of
the
single
member
districts
one
time
each
year
and
they
help
facilitate
that.
But
what
the
crb
attorney
doesn't
do
is
Advocate
a
position
doesn't
give
opinions
on
matters
before
the
crb
doesn't
try
to
guide
or
influence
them
as
to
what
their
findings
and
recommendations
should
be.
E
He
just
tries
to
help
guide
you
into
how
to
express
those
opinions
or
make
a
recommendation,
or
whatever
so
I'm
saying
that,
because
I
want
to
counter
this
suggestion
that
an
attorney
May
impose
his
or
her
bias
on
the
board,
that's
not
their
role
and
that's
not
what
they're
there
to
do
again
in
2021,
you
all
amended
the
code
to
require
that
the
crb
attorney
be
an
assistant,
City
attorney,
who
does
not
also
advise
the
police
department.
So
since
that
ordinance
was
enacted,
we've
had
someone
who
does
not
in
any
way
represent.
E
People
couldn't
understand
why
they
would
want
an
outside
attorney.
Ultimately,
they
voted
six
to
two
against
having
an
outside
attorney
and
even
Dr
Collins.
Who
was
one
of
the
two
no
votes
which
meant
yes,
she
was
Voting
to
have
outside
counsel,
said:
I,
don't
think
we
need
one
now,
but
there
may
come
a
time
in
the
future
when
another
board
wants
one
and
so
I
want
them
to
have
the
ability
to
hire
one.
So
I
wrote
it
with
that
spirit
in
mind.
E
E
E
The
only
thing
we
would
do
were
the
only
role
the
council
houses
when
we
get
you
to
approve
an
outside
council's
contract,
but
it's
our
discretion
with
that
RFQ
that
much
misunderstood
RFQ,
where
we
brought
to
you
a
list
of
eligible
law.
Firms
with
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
cap
again
have
to
remind
you
not
funded
that
just
gave
us
the
ability
to
hire
outside
counsel
when
we
need
subject
matter,
expertise
or
need,
conflict
counsel
or
whatever
those
contracts
have
now
been
pre-approved.
E
I
could
tomorrow,
just
hire
one
of
the
attorneys
that
is
already
on
that
list
for
the
crb
and
not
give
you
all
any
say
in
it
or
the
crb
any
say
in
it.
What
I
was
trying
to
do
by
creating
this
hiring
process
was
treat
this
issue
with
the
gravity
that
I
thought
you
wanted
treated
with,
which
you
would
want
it
to
be
treated.
B
F
Yeah
I
want
to
go
back
to
that
first
part
and
and
the
ordinance
the
ordinance
was
not
written
to
my
question.
I
did
not
want
you
to
go
back
and
listen
to
the
crb
crb
members
are
going
to
change.
That's
not
the
point
of
this.
The
point
of
this
is
to
set
up
parameters
for
the
CR
Bay.
Whoever
is
there
that
they
can
follow.
F
So
no
I
absolutely
do
not,
as
the
maker
of
this
motion
wants,
any
option
like
this
is
going
to
be
who
they
were
going
to
have
an
independent
attorney
like
this
is
not
an
option
that
they're
going
to
vote
on,
because
the
members
are
going
to
change
they'll
load,
it
up,
they'll
vote
it
down,
they'll,
go
back
and
forth,
so
I
think
it's
best
to
just
make
that
decision,
because
they
are
not
elected
officials
or
a
city
Administration
staff.
We
are
so
I'm
I'm,
very
strong
on
that
they're.
Not
permanent.
F
We've
obviously
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
outside
counsel.
So
that's
not
an
issue
for
me
and
I
I.
Don't
disagree
with
you.
I
think
the
idea
of
allowing
CRV
members
than
to
choose
someone
for
themselves
by
looking
at
applications,
I
think
that
that
works
and
would
be
wonderful
but
again
I'm,
going
to
go
back
to
the
strength
of
my
actual
ordinance,
which
was
to
selecting
a
legal
counsel
who's,
not
a
city
employee,
not
if
they
want
one.
E
Okay
and
if
I
could
just
finish
and
then
we
could
go
through
the
ordinance
I
just
wanted
to
finish
some
of
my
other
remarks.
I
know
you
all
received
the
email
from
James
Michael
Shaw,
the
ACLU.
You
know
one
of
the
comments
that
he
made
is
that
somehow
I've
created
a
process
where
I'd
have
the
ability
to
quote
screen
out
attorneys
who
are
not
aligned
with
my
views.
I,
don't
even
know
what
that
means,
but
you
know
again:
I've
created
a
process
that
allows
for
more
involvement
than
I'm
otherwise
required
to
provide
again
I.
E
That
language
is
also
identical
to
what's
in
section
2.04,
which
talks
about
the
city
council
attorney,
and
it
just
makes
clear
the
difference
in
the
roles,
no
attorney
that
we
hire
can
file
a
lawsuit
on
behalf
of
the
city
unless
authorized
to
do
so
by
the
City
attorney
again.
That
goes
back
to
the
city
attorney's
role
as
the
official
legal
representative.
So
this
isn't
anything
new.
It's
just
making
it
more
clear
again,
because
I
was
trying
to
give
the
ordinance
the
gravity
that
I
thought
you
wanted
it
to
have.
E
He
talks
about
that.
This
is
presumably
put
in
there
to
prevent
a
lawsuit
to
obtain
public
records
that
doesn't
even
make
sense.
You
know,
under
the
crb
ordinance
at
section,
18-8
G8,
the
police
department
is
required
to
provide
records
to
the
crb
upon
their
request,
so
the
crb
wouldn't
have
to
file
a
public
records
request
and
again,
the
crb
is
a
board
of
the
city.
The
city
can't
sue
itself,
so
they
wouldn't
be
bringing
a
lawsuit
so
that
that
doesn't
even
make
sense.
E
One
other
comment
I
want
to
make.
He
keeps
talking
about
the
Miami
citizens
investigation
panel,
which
the
last
I
heard
was
up
to
a
2.4
million
dollar
budget.
Yes,
that
board
has
its
own
staff,
it
has
it
so
it
has
subpoena
power,
it
has
greater
investigative
Powers
than
ours,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
you
read
the
Miami
ordinance
next
to
our
ordinance,
all
the
panel
can
do
is
the
same
thing
that
our
crb
can
do.
They
make
a
recommendation.
E
E
E
It's
similar
to
the
process
we
use
with
that
RFQ,
where
we
were
trying
to
line
up
eligible
subject
matter
experts
and,
finally
again,
this
is
this-
is
giving
both
Council
and
the
board
more
involvement
in
the
hiring
of
an
outside
Council
than
is
required.
So
with
that
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments,
councilman.
G
E
G
And
and
Mr
chair
as
a
courtesy,
I
didn't
know,
and
again,
obviously,
you
called
on
me
if
councilwoman
hurt
had
any
other
questions
you
made.
The
motion
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
do
but
go
ahead.
You
sure,
okay,
just
making
sure
thank
you.
Yeah
I
wanted
to
speak
on
this.
There's
a
lot
that
I
think
about
this.
A
couple
of
things
in
terms
of
you
know
my
my
history
on
this
issue.
G
G
Amendment
I
I
believe
in
this
because
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
request
when,
when
I
I
take
a
look
at
these
issues
and
I
try
to
handle
them
one
by
one
to
see
the
reasonableness
of
them,
for
example,
subpoena
power
I
thought
there
were
many
many
issues
wrong
with
that,
including
potentially
having
an
elected
board
have
concurrence
subpoena
power
on
potentially
or
at
actually
open
criminal
cases.
That's
that's!
That's!
That's
really
really
bad
in
my
opinion,
but
this
is
very,
very
reasonable.
G
With
regards
to
the
issue
of
a
conflict,
as
I've
explained
before
you
know,
there's
I
guess
if
you
will,
let's
say:
Big
C
conflicts
and
small
C
conflicts,
which
is
you
could
have
State
Farm
Insurance,
that
hires
in-house
counsel
to
represent
their
insureds
and
claims
made
against
them.
They
work
for
State
Farm,
their
bills
are
paid
for
by
State,
Farm
or
alternatively,
State
Farm
could
go
to
an
outside
Insurance
defense
law
firm
or
retain
outside
counsel
to
represent
their
interests
of
their
insured.
G
Neither,
of
course,
is
a
conflict,
but
there
are
some
people
that,
like
to
have
an
outside
retained
attorney
as
opposed
to
someone
who
works
directly
for
Allstate
or
whatever
insurance
company
may
be.
That
may
be
a
small
C
conflict
so
that
that
that's,
why
I
support
this,
because
I
I
just
think
it's
a
a
cleaner
process
and
what
again
it's
reasonable
one
of
the
things
that
I
used
as
precedent
for
this
was
my
experience
on
the
Civil
Service
review
board
that
I
talked
about
publicly,
which
is
we
have
had
an
outside
counsel.
G
Them
I
stand,
I
stand
liberally,
corrected,
you're
right,
that
was
subpoena
power,
you're
right
because
that
was
a
while
ago,
but
we
did
have
outside
counsel
so
and
again
for
for
a
different
reason,
you're
correct
on
that
Ms
ellman,
and
thank
you
for
that.
We
did
have
outside
counsel
and
I
thought.
That
was
certainly
something
that
was
reasonable.
G
Now,
there's
two
issues
for
me,
which
is
one
with
which
Ms
her
attack
has
spoken
on,
which
I
think
is
reasonable,
which
is
saying:
look
we
want
outside
counsel,
let's
have
it
on
here
and
let's
just
carry
it
forward.
The
other
issues
are
the
issues
you've
brought
up
which
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
With
regards
to
the
issue
of
a
council
bringing
lawsuit
against
the
city,
the
the
the
contract
for
the
attorney
going
through
the
city
attorney.
G
E
E
H
G
In
my
opinion,
it
caught
up
on
small
issues,
which
is
what's
that
saying,
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem
or
whatever
it
is
on
these
issues,
their
problem
in
search
whatever
you
all
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say
so
that
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
looking
at
again
making
sure
the
board
does
have
separately
retained.
Private
counsel
I
think
that's
reasonable,
I'm,
fine
with
that,
but
to
go
on
these
other
small
issues
that
that
may
take
our
Focus
off
of
this.
G
G
So
you
know
that
that's
my
thought
on
it,
which
is
if
we
keep
our
on
the
ball
of
having
a
privately
retained
Council
for
the
crb
I.
Think
that's
what
we
want
to
do
in
these
small
issues
appear
to
be
by
virtue
of
Charter
by
virtue
of
established
law
and
precedent
with
the
city,
a
tampon
which
we
arguably
have
very
little
to
no
discretion
on
this
issue
as
I
see
it
as
I,
see
it
and
that's
and
I
did
want
to
say
too.
G
With
regards
to
Ms
Zellman,
you
spoke
about
issues,
you
know
questioning
you
I've,
you
know
worked
with
you
in
my
capacity
as
a
city
council,
member
in
in
the
community,
Etc
and
you've
always
just
been
a
professional
person
and
a
first-rate
person,
a
first-rate
attorney
and
first-rate
colleague
in
the
law
and
and
I've
I've,
just
always
thought
your
Stellar
professionally
so
and
I
know
and
I
speak
on
behalf
of
everyone.
I'm
sure
in
saying
that,
so
thank
you.
F
Thank
you
that
was
very
eloquently
put
and
I
I
agree,
but
the
way
the
way
I
look
at
c
and
d,
and
it
says
that
the
City
attorney
shall
solicit
applications
to
meet
the
minimum
criteria.
So
if
my
understanding
is
correct,
any
application
you
would
then
give
to
the
crb
would
be
an
appropriate
candidate,
so
just
letting
them
choose
from
those
would
would
be
okay,
right
and.
F
E
F
So
then,
what
you're
saying
I
would
just
like
to
take
D
out
and
just
kind
of
combine
those
two
and
say
the
crb
May
establish
procedures
to
review
and
select
the
crb
legal
advisor
and
then
just
and
if
you
wanted
to
add
a
a
sentence
that
said
the
City
attorney
shall
hire
based
on
the
recommendation.
That's.
E
F
But
but
not
again,
not
not
a
I,
don't
want
them
to
get
a
recommendation.
I
want
them
to
say
who
they
want.
I
I
think
the
cement
I
think
the
words
are
a
little
semantic
okay,
but
but
just
if
they
get
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
I
think
the
rest
is
very
clear
and
makes
sense,
because
we
do
have
a
criteria.
We
do
have
those
types
of
things
we
need
to
do
and
yeah
that's
the
only
thing
I
would
change.
F
So
I
would
just
change
number
six
to
say
the
crb
shall
be
represented
by
an
independent
attorney
period
and
then
a
and
everything
below
after
the
changes
with
c
and
d
to
me,
that
would
that
would
be
very
simple
and
to
the
point
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
as
councilman
Vieira
said:
let's
not,
let's
not
gum
up
the
works,
let's
just
say
they'll
be
represented,
and
then
these
are
the
things
that
we
do
to
start.
That
and
I
want
to
again.
F
F
E
F
G
H
I
J
F
J
F
J
J
F
C
B
G
And
I'm
glad,
actually
it's
funny
that
we
had
this
discussion
on
certain
issues
like
the
attorney
suing
Etc,
because
I
had
some
folks
speak
to
me
and
go
well.
This
is
going
to
be
a
rogue
attorney
in
doing
this,
and
by
having
these
conversations
publicly,
we
address
the
like,
like
was
said
by
councilman
Carlson
others.
This
to
me
is
a
reasonable
thing.
It's
a
it's!
A
procedural
Improvement
and
and
by
addressing
this
I,
think
that
we
also
addressed
the
some
of
those
concerns.
So
it's
it's
good.
In
my
estimation,
thank
you.
H
F
E
B
Motion
made
by
councilman
her
tax
seconded
by
councilman
Randall,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
is
there
any
opposed
motion
passes
councilman
Bradley,
you
have
Finance.
If
you
wanted
motion
made
by
councilman
Miranda
seconded
by
councilman,
Goods,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
is
there
any
opposed.
Motion
passes
councilman
Carlson.
You
have
building
and
Zoning.
G
B
K
I
Thank
you,
the
you,
you
all
probably
know
as
well
as
I
do,
but
eboard
is
going
to
try
to
do
their
own.
There
wasn't
enough
time
to
do
to
to
bring
this
in
and
eboard
has
his
own
separate
brand
and
identity,
and
there
seems
to
be
a
movement
to
to
do
that.
Eboard!
It's
not
set
yet,
but
I
encourage
you
all
to
talk
to
all
the
stakeholders.
If
you
haven't
already
thank
you,
foreign.
B
L
M
Planning
Commission
proceed
awesome.
This
is
all
perfect.
This
is
Tampa
comprehensive
plan
map,
Amendment
2214
for
the
property
located
at
1112,
West
Waters
Avenue,
the
requests
change
the
future
land
use
from
Community
mixed
use,
35
to
community
commercial
35.
You
approve
this
amendment
at
your
hearing
on
January
26th
and
is
back
for
you
today
for
a
second
reading
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
H
N
N
You,
chairman
item
number
78
file,
number
thcpa,
22-14
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading.
Adoption
on
owners
amending
the
image,
2040
Tampa
company,
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
element,
future
land
use
map
for
the
property
located
1112
West
Waters
Avenue
from
Community
makes
use
35,
CMU
35
to
community
commercial
35
cc35,
providing
for
repeal
of
all
ordinance
and
conflict
providing
presetability
providing
for
an
effective
date.
B
M
Thank
you,
sorry
about
that
same
Thomas
with
your
Planning
Commission
staff.
This
is
Tampa
comprehensive
plan
map,
Amendment
22
18
for
the
property
located
at
803
West
lineball
Avenue.
The
request
is
a
change
to
Future
land
use
from
residential
10
to
residential
20..
You
approved
this
amendment
at
your
hearing
on
January
26th
and
it
is
back
before
you
today
for
a
second
meeting
available
for
any
questions.
Any
questions,
foreign.
D
Ta
CPA
2218
I
want
to
present
for
second
reading
and
adoption
in
order
to
amending
the
Imagine
2040
Tampa
accomplishment
plan,
future
land
use
element,
future
land
use
map
for
the
property
located
at
803,
West
limwell
Avenue
from
residential
10
r10
to
residential
20
R20,
providing
for
repeal
of
all
ordinance
in
Conflict,
providing
preservability
providing
for
effective
date.
Okay,.
M
St
Thomas
with
their
Planning
Commission
staff,
Tampa
companion,
where
the
property
is
located
at
101,
West,
Amelia,
Avenue,
2500
and
2510
North
Campus
Street
and
106
108
10
and
114
West
Columbus
Drive.
The
request
has
changed
the
future
land
use
from
Community
commercial
35
and
Community
35
to
Urban
mix
C60.
You
approve
this
amendment
that
you're
carrying
on
January
January
26th
and
is
back
three
today
for
the
second
meeting
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
Any
questions.
B
O
B
K
Thank
you,
I
have
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
and
ordinance
amending
the
Imagine
2040
Tampa
comprehensive
plan.
Future
land
use
element.
Future
land
use
map
for
the
property
located
at
101
West
Amelia,
Avenue
2500
and
2510
North
Tampa
Street
and
106
108
110
114
West
Columbus
Drive
from
community
community
commercial
35,
CC
35
in
the
community,
makes
it
use
35
CMU,
35,
TWO
Urban
mix
use
60,
umu
60,
providing
for
repeal
of
all
ordinances
in
Conflict,
providing
preservability
providing
an
effective
date.
C
J
K
B
P
Royal
Salmon's
development
coordination
file,
number
vac,
23-02
is
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption.
It's
a
proposed
vacating
request
to
vacate
a
portion
of
7th
Avenue
right
away
and
Market
Street
right
of
way
located
north
of
Hillsboro
River
South
of
Palm
Avenue
East
of
Center
Heights
Lane
and
West
savola
Avenue
within
the
plan
of
heights
of
Tampa
subdivision
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions
any.
O
Thank
you:
Council
Catherine
Coyle
urban
planning,
Innovations
5312
North,
Suwannee
Avenue,
representing
Adam
Hardin
and
Riverside
Heights
Holdings.
There
was
a
substitute
substitute
ordinance
put
in
by
Mr
wigginton
from
the
legal
department.
Tico
did
ask
for
an
easement
which
we've
agreed
to
and,
along
with
all
the
other
easements
were
available
for
any
questions.
Any.
B
N
F
G
I
move
an
orders
being
presented
for
second
reading:
adoption
ordinance
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
vacating,
closing
discontinuing
abandoning
a
portion
to
7th
Avenue
right
away
in
Market
Street
right
away,
located
north
of
Hillsborough
Avenue
south
of
Palm
Avenue
East
of
Sandra
Heights
Lane
and
West
devola
Avenue
within
the
Plaid
of
heights
of
Tampa
subdivision.
The
city
of
Tampa
Hillsborough,
County
Florida
is
more
particularly
set
forth
here
and
providing
for
enforcement
and
penalties
for
violations
providing
for
definitions,
interpretation
and
repealing
conflicts
providing
for
separability
providing
an
effective
date.
G
All
within
the
plan
of
heights
of
Tampa
subdivision,
the
city
of
Tampa
Hillsborough,
County
Florida
is
more
particularly
described
than
section
two
here
of
subject
to
reservation
of
certain
easements
and
in
position
of
certain
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
more
particularly
set
forth
here
and
providing
for
enforcement
and
penalties
of
violations
or
for
violations
providing
for
definitions
and
interpretations,
repealing
conflicts
providing
for
severability
providing
an
effective
date.
We.
J
B
B
P
About
the
same
as
development
coordination
presenting
file
number
vac
22-25,
this
ordinance
is
being
presented
for
a
second
reading
adoption.
That's
proposed
baking
request
to
vacate
a
portion
of
Ellicott
Street
right
away,
located
north
of
Louisiana
Avenue
South
Korea
Street
East
of
34th
Street
and
West
of
30th
Street
6th
Street
within
the
Plata
princess
subdivision,
I'm.
B
N
B
N
Phone
number
vac
25
22-25
115
per
second
reading.
Adoption
orders
from
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
vacating,
closing
discontinuing
abandoned
that
portion
of
Ellicott
Street
right
away
located
north
of
Louisiana
Avenue
south
of
Caracas
Street
East
of
31st
Street
West
of
36th
Street
within
the
plat
Apprentice
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
more
particularly
described
as
section
two
they're
off
subject
to
certain
confidence
conditions
and
restrictions
from
what
particularly
that
fourth
area.
Providing
for
enforcement
and
penalties
for
violation
providing
for
definition,
interpretation
repealing
conflict
program
for
severability,
providing
an
effective
date.
L
N
B
Q
Q
B
Saying
not:
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
speak
to
this
ain't?
None
do
we
have
anybody
online
I
believe
we
have
a
motion
to
move
the
resolution
by
councilman
VR
executive
by
councilman
Goods
to
roll
call
vote
because
I
still
see
up
on
our
screen.
No
okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
passes.
B
Q
Q
States
city
council's
intent
to
use
the
uniform
method
of
leveling
and
collecting
not
ad
form
assessments
by
the
city
in
accordance
with
Section
197.3632
Florida
statutes
for
street
lights,
generally
located
between
North
Forest,
Hills,
Drive
and
North
Community
Place
being
north
of
Rambo
rambliss
Street
south
of
Forest
Hills
Drive
East
of
Forest,
Hills,
Place
and
west
of
Willow
Avenue,
section
197.3632,
Florida
statute
requires
that
the
attached
resolution
be
adopted
out
of
public
hearing.
So
at
this
point,
I
would
recommend
that
you
open
the
public
hearing
with
the
resolution.
B
R
R
The
staff
who
conducted
the
review
of
this
application
is
Laura
Marley
and
she
will
provide
an
overview
of
the
application
and
the
basis
for
the
denial
after
city
council
hears
all
the
evidence
and
the
comments
associated
with
this
petition
for
review
city
council
can
affirm
the
decision
of
the
zoning
administrator
and
deny
the
requests
for
to
waive
the
600
square
feet.
Code
requirement
for
the
sixes.
R
B
S
So
this
is
a
position
for
review
for
sg1
2260
petitioner
is
Robert
Webster,
the
property
address
is
3627,
South
hesperdy
Street,
the
zoning
is
our
60
single
residential
single
family
and
the
special
use
request
is
extended,
extended
family
residents
and
the
residents
would
be
the
owner's
parents.
This
is
the
general
overview
of
the
area.
The
outline
of
the
property
is
in
red.
S
These
are
the
code
requirements
for
the
extended
family
residents
a
is
that
it
shall
be
limited
to
600
square
feet.
B
is
the
extended
family
may
be
approved
when
the
main
residence
is
owner
occupied
C
is
that
it
may
be
designed
to
be
located
within
the
single
family
or
a
conforming
accessory
structure.
S
D
is
the
occupants
of
the
extended
family.
Care
should
be
limited
to
family
members.
E
is
it's
for
a
temporary
need,
and
no
time
there
may
be
more
than
two
residents
f.
Is
that
they
may
not
they
don't
pay
rent
and
G?
Is
they
must
certify
that
there's
conditions
for
the
application
regarding
the
occupants
who
they
are
the
relation?
S
And
then
H
is
staff
reviews
annually
annually
the
extended
family,
residence
and
so
we're
looking
at
a
this
is
what
they're
not
meaning
meeting
it
should
be
limited
to
600
square
feet
and
then
the
the
applicant
is
proposing
712
square
feet.
So
all
of
the
other
requirements
have
been
met,
but
they're
asking
to
be
larger
than
600
over
by
112
square
feet.
T
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
David
Wright,
president
of
tsp
companies.
Our
address
is
PO
Box,
273-417,
Tampa,
Florida,
33688
and
I
have
been
sworn
in
today,
I'm
here
with
Mr
Norm
Ronk,
one
of
the
owners
of
3627
South
Hesperides
Street,
to
appeal
the
decision.
Zoning
administrator's
decision
on
special
use,
application,
su-1
2260,
seeking
approval
of
an
extended
family
residence.
The
zoning
administrator
denied
the
river
costs
due
to
the
size
of
the
proposed
extended
family
residents
exceeding
the
maximum
allowable
size
of
600
square
feet.
T
The
original
request
was
for
a
712
square
foot
extendedly
family
unit.
However,
that
measurement
included
an
exterior
porch
measuring
21
square
feet,
which
is
not
actually
counted
in
the
living
space.
We
also
revise
the
plan
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
unit
to
681
interior
square
feet,
which
is
still
above
the
maximum
allowable
size.
However,
it
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
is
taking
measures
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
unit
to
the
absolute
minimum
size
that
can
suit
their
needs
and
Mr
elaborate
on
that
when
he
speaks.
T
Abby
feely,
director
of
development
and
growth
management,
presented
a
workshop
to
City
Council
in
October
of
last
year
that
included
a
discussion
of
proposed
land
use.
Land
Development
code
amendment
to
allow
accessory
dwelling
units
Citywide
accessory
dwelling
units
and
extended
family
residents
are
very
similar.
The
significant
difference
of
the
two
is
that
the
occupants
of
an
extended
family
residence
are
required
to
be
extended
family
members
of
the
owner
occupants
of
the
primary
residents.
The
workshop
proposed
the
following
language
for
a
Land
Development
code,
Amendment.
T
T
The
following
specific
standards
shall
apply
to
all
accessory
dwelling
units.
A
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
shall
be
limited
to
a
maximum
of
950
square
feet
of
living
space
be
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
may
only
be
approved
when
the
main
residence
is
owner
occupied
an
accessory
drawing
unit
may
be
designed
to
be
located
within
the
single
family
dwelling
with
a
separate
entrance
or
in
an
accessory
structure.
The
no
time
May,
the
number
of
unrelated
occupants
of
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
exceed
two
City
of
Tampa
comprehensive
plan.
T
Tampa
needs
more
affordable
housing
to
accommodate
forecasted
growth,
in
fact,
providing
more
affordable
housing
is
at
the
center
of
the
discussion
for
the
proposed
Land
Development
code.
Amendment.
This
request
to
allow
a
681
square
foot
extended
family
residents
to
accommodate
the
needs
of
this
family
is
also
based
in
the
need
for
affordability.
T
The
request
neither
interferes
with
the
rights
of
others,
as
provided
in
chapter
27,
nor
is
injurious
to
the
public
health
safety
or
general
welfare.
The
request
provides
for
a
reasonable
allowance
of
use
of
the
property
due
to
the
specific
circumstances
of
this
family.
The
request
achieves
the
general
intent
of
the
city
of
Tampa
comprehensive
plan
and
the
request
is
the
minimum
possible
size
under
the
specific
circumstances
of
this
family.
T
Lastly,
I
would
like
to
read
into
the
record
a
letter
from
Robert
West,
Webster,
Mr,
runk's
stepson
and
the
one
of
the
owner
occupants
of
the
primary
structure
good
afternoon
Council.
My
name
is
Rob
Webster
and
I
own
the
property
at
3627
South,
Hesperides
Street,
which
is
currently
under
construction.
My
wife
and
I
were
raised
in
Tampa
and
from
2016
to
21.
We
lived
in
a
one-story
home
built
in
1949
on
Euclid
Avenue,
very,
very
close
to
where
we
are
currently
building
on
hesperities.
T
It
was
our
first
home
as
a
married
couple
and
we
loved
living
there
until
our
family
expanded
to
the
point
where
we
needed
more
room.
We
now
have
three
kids
all
under
the
age
of
five.
We
love
the
neighborhood
so
much
that
we
did
all
we
could
to
find
a
lot
that
would
allow
us
to
build
our
forever
home
with
our
young
kids.
Around
the
same
time,
my
mother
was
undergoing
treatment
for
cancer.
My
stepfather
was
dealing
with
debilitating
dating
back
issues,
which
would
require
two
major
surgeries.
T
At
that
point,
we
thought
it
would
be
best
to
include
them
in
our
plans
and
build
them
an
in-law
suite,
so
we
could
help
take
care
of
them
as
they
got
a
little
older.
My
wife
is
a
registered
nurse.
This
structure
will
only
be
used
to
house
my
parents.
We
certainly
did
not
intend
to
come
off
as
inconsiderate
and
since
moving
into
the
neighborhood
in
2016.
T
We
have
always
strived
to
be
good,
neighbors,
I,
hear
and
respect
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors,
who
filed
letters
of
objections
to
this
variance
to
this
request
since
receiving
those
letters,
I
have
sent
letters
and
even
met
for
beers
with
them
in
an
attempt
to
explain
where
we
were
coming
from
and
mitigate
those
concerns.
It
is
now
my
understanding
that
those
Neighbors,
at
least
the
ones
I've
spoken
with
no
longer
have
objections.
My
family
and
I
would
respectfully
request
that
the
council
approved
this
small
variance
and
allow
us
to
build
this
space
for
my
parents.
T
U
Bathroom
council
members,
my
name
is
Norman
Runk
and
I
am
one
of
the
owners
of
3627
South,
Hesperides
Street
and
the
intended
occupant,
along
with
my
wife,
Joanne
of
the
proposed
efr
and
I'm
this
morning,
when
our
children
approach
us
with
this
proposal
to
join
with
them
in
this
endeavor,
we
were
excited.
We
look
forward
to
sharing
the
continued
growth
of
our
family.
U
We
have,
we
are
approaching
retirement
and,
in
fact,
my
wife
plans
on
retiring
in
28
months,
I
hope
to
work
six
to
seven
more
years,
help
permitting
I've
been
I've,
endured
three
back
surgeries
over
the
last
five
years,
and
my
wife
is
recovering
from
breast
cancer.
The
fact
that
our
children
have
offered
to
take
care
of
us
this
early
is
amazing.
We
designed
our
forever
Cottage
to
coincide
with
their
forever
home,
keeping
in
mind
that
we
generally
do
not
share
a
bedroom
and
have
needed
separate
bedrooms
during
our
during
my
surgical
procedures
and
other
things.
U
So
we're
currently
able
we
are
currently
able
to
take
care
of
ourselves,
but
that
may
change
financially.
This
proposal
housing
would
certainly
save
enormous
amounts
of
money
in
the
future.
Should
we
need
different
type
of
care?
Her,
our
daughter-in-law,
as
my
son
mentioned,
is
an
RN
and
has
volunteered
help
if
needed.
U
A
separate
space
makes
the
most
sense
for
us
at
this
time
where
we
can
take
care
of
ourselves
and
enjoy
the
Dynamics
of
being
around
our
grandchildren,
while
while
they
grow
up
considering
how
much
smaller
than
a
proposed
adus
are
in
this
area,
we
would
hope
that
you
would
allow
us
to
use
a
small
increase
in
size
of
this
efr
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
K
Okay,
so
a
few
things,
your
stepson
is
Robert
Webster,
III,
correct,
yes,
yes,
sir,
so
the
people
that
are
mentioned
in
this
letter,
his
mother,
who
had
undergone
treatment
for
cancer,
is
your
wife
and
you
have
the
debilitating
back
issues
correct
correct,
so
you
would
be
the
ones
that
would
potentially
live
in
this
unit.
Correct.
K
Mother,
his
mother,
okay,
so
I'm,
you
know,
I'm
glad
that
this
is
brought
up
regarding
accessory
dwelling
units
and
how
our
code,
you
know,
doesn't
doesn't
address
what
you're
coming
before
us
with.
And
you
know
there
is
a
an
issue
with
you
know:
housing,
housing,
stock,
housing,
affordability
and
whatnot,
and
our
code
allows
us
I,
believe
it's
650
square
feet
or
600
and
you're
asking
for
681.
Is
that
correct?
K
R
K
B
N
S
A
Laura
Marley
development
coordination,
the
extended
family
of
residence,
it's
limited
to
the
600
feet,
it's
only
for
a
temporary
and
then
they
don't
pay
rent
and
then
it's
under
the
issue,
one
application.
So
there's
certain
areas
that
you
can
do
the
extended
family,
the
the
ex
the
Adu
is
allowed
in
other
areas,
and
it
has
another
list
of
requirements.
S
It
can
be
rented
out.
You
know
the
maximum
and
we'll
leave
is
650.
I,
don't
have
the
code
up.
I
can
put
it
up
if
it
needs
it,
they
can
pay
rent
and
again
it's
under
an
SG-1
application.
So
this
one
is
for
an
extended
family
again
for
temporary,
it's
limited
to
family,
and
then
it's
limited
to
two
people
and
a
temporary.
So
this
is
different
than
Adu,
because
Adu
can
be
rented,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
family
members.