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D
Even
though
miss
Mora
has
been
with
us
just
a
short
time
and
as
leaving
us
to
go
elsewhere
and
I
hope
that
sometime
soon
you
will
come
back,
she
has
helped
me
and
she
has
advised
many
council
people
much
like
people
that
came
before
her.
She
was
always
there
may
not
have
given
us
the
answers
we
wanted,
but
always
made
us
think,
and
for
that
I
truly
do
appreciate
it.
You
stay
right
where
you're
at.
D
This
forum,
I
truly
thank
you
for
the
knowledge
that
you
have
given
me
and
as
one
of
our
other
legal
advisors
say
if
we
always
learn
from
our
mistakes,
when
I
die,
I
will
be
a
very
intelligent
man
and
I.
Thank
you
for
teaching
me
along
the
way.
You
have
been
a
help
to
me
and
again
other
council
people
miss
Maura,
Tampa
City
Council,
congratulate
you
on
the
achievements
as
city
of
Tampa
Assistant
Attorney
and
wishes
you
all
the
well
and
your
new
career
opportunity
and
all
your
future.
D
Endeavors
kristen
has
been
an
energetic
partner
and
her
dedication
to
detail
and
sound
advice
has
served
the
city
council
members,
as
well
as
those
who
have
served
on
the
variance
review
board
such
as
myself,
such
as
councilman
dink
Felder,
and
has
spent
many
hours
with
City
Council
zoning
and
land
use
cases
miss
Maura.
You
have
engaged
career.
You
have
had
an
engaging
career,
thus
far
from
the
community
planner
to
force
Florida,
Supreme
Court
intern
to
various
roles
within
local
law
firms.
Your
stay
here
at
the
city
and
we
wish
you
well
in
the
future
deficit.
D
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
kind
words,
and
thank
you
all
for
this.
This
is
extremely
sweet
and
thoughtful.
The
pleasure
has
been
mine
here,
the
last
three
years.
All
of
you
are
excellent.
Public
servants
I
have
always
been
moved
and
touched
by
everyone
at
the
city
how
hard
they
work,
how
dedicated
they
are
to
what
they
do,
and
it
has
been
my
distinct
pleasure
to
just
be
a
part
of
that
and
to
do
my
part
as
well.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
for
this
night.
F
Could
you
let
us
know
if
those
comments
are
confident
substantial
evidence?
Please
I
just
want
to
thank
you
as
a
newbie.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience
and
for
educating
me
bring
me
up
to
speed
and
and
thank
you
for
always
being
available.
It
was
fantastic
working
with
you
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
in
the
future.
A
G
G
If
you
were
given
gonna
give
it
because,
but
it
was
definitely
gonna,
be
a
truthful
and
legal
response,
no
matter
how
I
might
feel
about
it
and
that's
that's
what
we
need
so
I
know
your
clients
that
tico
will
be
well
served
and
I'm
sure
you'll
be
serving
the
community
continuing
in
many
many
ways.
Thank
you.
A
H
A
D
A
D
C
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
briefly
say
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
people,
the
city
of
Tampa
and
your
service
to
our
clients.
City
Council,
you've
served
them
phenomenally
well
as
an
outstanding
attorney.
Your
knowledge
I've
had
a
tremendous
respect
for
you
in
in
your
opinions,
and
also
your
professionalism
and
I'm,
very
grateful
to
have
had
the
opportunity
and
privilege
to
work
alongside
you
and
with
you
for
the
benefit
of
the
City
Council
and
the
people
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
Thank.
A
A
tremendous
asset
to
the
city
of
Tampa
family
we're
certainly
going
to
miss
you
very
knowledgable.
You
work
tirelessly
tirelessly
because
I
I've
seen
you
in
action
and
and
you're,
just
always
on
the
go
non-stop
and
in
a
testament
to
all
your
work.
Look
at
everybody
who's!
Here
you
have
everybody
from
the
city
at
the
city
attorney
in
the
back.
We.
B
A
I
H
C
A
I
I
J
B
A
I
L
C
M
C
M
M
It's
actually
a
very
simple
change.
You
have
the
consolidated
plan
and
the
annual
action
plan.
If
you
recall
a
few
weeks
back,
we
had
I
pulled
a
couple
of
items
for
the
purchase
of
6.7
acres
and
the
3
and
a
half
acres
site,
a
vacant
land
for
the
purpose
of
working
with
an
affordable
housing
inventory
of
land.
M
So
to
speak,
we
had
to
pull
that
back
because,
although
you
can
utilize,
Community
Development,
Block
Grant
money
to
purchase
land
for
affordable
housing
and
things
like
such
as
that,
the
comprehensive
the
consolidated
plan
and
the
annual
action
plan
had
to
reflect
that
in
their
goals
and
objectives,
and
in
this
case
the
5-year
or
consolidated
plan
did
not
have
that
as
a
specific
goal.
To
do
that
in
order
to
stay
compliant
with
federal
HUD
regulations.
M
We
have
to
make
that
very
minor
amendment
to
add
that
goal
and
do
the
same
thing
with
the
annual
action
plan.
So
that
is
really
the
essence.
There
is
no
other
change
to
those
plans.
It's
just
that
very
simple.
It's
almost
a
scriveners
error
if
you
would,
but
it
makes
that
change
and
allows
us
to
go
forward
for
under
the
19th
is
when
those
two
parcels
of
land
will
be
coming
before
council
for
purchase
and
discussion.
I.
M
N
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Shawn
Wilson
I'm,
the
president
of
Blue
Sky
communities
where
affordable
housing
developers
at
5300,
West,
Cypress
I'm,
also
a
resident
homeowner,
37-14,
West,
rolling,
Street
I'm,
also
the
president
or
chair
of
the
Bonaire
Neighborhood
Association,
which
is
right
at
the
corner
of
Dale,
Mabry
and
Kennedy,
very
small,
but
very
vibrant
neighbor
of
Association
and
I'm
here
with
Mike
Marshall
he's
are
a
non-profit
partner
that
works
with
blue
sky
and
he's
with
the
University
Area
Community
Development
Corporation
a
couple
things.
N
Of
course,
I
would
heard
you
to
adopt
the
amendment
to
the
consolidated
plan.
The
HCD
staff
does
a
really
good
job
by
the
way
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
the
affordable
housing,
Advisory
Committee,
otherwise
known
as
the
a
hack
which
which
meets
periodically
at
the
new
place
out
on
Lemon
Street
I,
did
want
to
get
a
couple
things
out.
I,
don't
know
this
is
gonna,
show
up,
it's
gonna
be
facing
me
and
I'll
hand
these
these
out.
These
are
some
invitations
to
a
groundbreaking.
N
It's
that
the
property
is
is
not
in
the
city,
but
it's
close
to
the
city,
and
we
would
urge
you
to
come
to
the
groundbreaking.
There
was
also
going
to
be
a
sneak
peek
of
a
property
that
right
next
door
that
it's
almost
complete,
so
you
can
see
what
blue
sky
does
and,
of
course,
I
would
invite
you
to
come
visit
any
of
our
other
properties.
N
The
city
has
gotten
that
nine
percent
credit
allocation
from
the
state,
the
city
right
now
is-
is
running
a
competitive
program,
they're,
accepting
applications
for
people
who
want
to
submit
a
nine
percent
application
in
the
past
years,
the
city
has
always
given
the
funding
for
a
nine
percent
application
to
the
tha
projects,
either
in
encore
or
in
West
River.
Most
recently,
we
don't
know
who's
going
to
come
before
the
city
to
present
a
potential
project
for
the
nine
percent
tax
credits
this
year.
We
don't
know
how
many
units
it's
going
to
be.
N
We
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
something.
That's
a
high
impact
or
very
exciting.
Blue
sky
does
not
have
a
site.
We
do
have
a
site,
though
in
the
county
and
it's
a
hundred
and
eighteen
units.
We
actually
have
two
sites
in
the
county,
one
hundred
and
eighteen
units
and
one
hundred
and
forty
four
units
we're
gonna,
be
competing
for
some
county
funding.
That
would
give
us
the
edge
in
the
nine
percent
tax
credit
round
in
the
county.
K
N
N
This
is
there's
a
few
different
income
categories
here.
There's
there
some
units
that
are
it's
rental,
housing
and
the
the
some
of
the
units
are
set
aside
for
households
at
35
percent
of
AMI
or
less,
which
is
very
low
and
there's,
but
most
of
the
units
are
set
aside
for
households
at
sixty
percent,
which
is
kind
of
in
between
very
low
and
low.
So
it's
rental
housing.
The
target
market
is,
is
households
with
a
total
household
income
anywhere
from
about
eighteen
to
thirty-five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
That's
total
household
income
reason.
H
I
asked
him
when
I
heard
you
were
rental,
because
everybody
is
not
ready
to
be
a
homeowner,
and
so
we
need
to
I'm
hoping
that
Mister
telling
his
people
start
looking
at
this
time
of
development,
much
more
as
a
rental,
because
I
think
that's
needed,
because
everybody's
not
ready
to
be
on
there.
But
thank
you
for
your
information.
B
M
Just
as
a
quick
side
kind
of
to
build
on
that
I,
just
before
this
was
at
the
Tampa
Hillsborough
homeless
initiative
I
serve
on
that
board
and
Antoinette
triplet.
Who
is
the
executive
officer
there?
She
was
announcing
that
the
thh
I
is
working
with
these
two
gentlemen
and
a
pilot
program
to
do
an
acquisition,
rehab
project
and
then
they'll,
then,
at
that
point
they
has
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
couple
million
dollars,
are
gonna
put
out
to
bid
to
expand
on
that
project
now
and
as
Sean
Sean.
M
He
said
when
this
program
gets
on
and
those
two
Lots
next
month
or
next
week,
come
before
you,
and
that
goes
forward
that
will
go
through
an
RFP
process
and
whether
it
ends
up
being
somebody
bids
on
it
and
comes
up
with
a
great
rental
apartment
or
a
single-family
development
that
remains
to
be
seen.
We
haven't
worked
through
any
of
those
details,
but
the
first
thing
we
had
to
do
is
acquire
the
land
before
we
could
acquire
the
land
you
had
to
make
this
change.
So
it's
all
kind
of
goes
full
circle.
K
F
K
F
Just
mr.
Sayle,
if
I
ask
you
a
quick
question,
if
it's
a
long
answer,
we
can
schedule
it
for
another
time,
but
the
the
issue
that
I've
heard
from
nonprofits
and
others
that
want
to
build,
affordable
housing
is
that
there's
a
shortage
of
land
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
especially
within
MS
McLaurys
Department,
but
there's
a
there's
a
theory
by
some
of
these
groups
that
there's
land
that
the
city
is
banking
in
other
areas
like
in
real
estate
or
other
areas
that
could
be
transferred
over.
Do
you
do
you
know?
M
We're
working
with
the
advisory,
affordable
house
that
advisory
came
what
they
had
asked
us
to
is
to
inventory
all
available
land
I
just
finished
that
inventory.
We
came
up
with
about
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
40
Galatz,
we're
not
banking,
anything
in
real
estate,
or
anything
like
that.
We've
culled
through
that,
and
we
have
that
list
and
we'll
be
working
with
that
group
and
the
council
to
to
see
how
best
to
you
know,
work
through
that
program.
But
the
short
answer
is
no
we're,
not
land
banking.
Anything.
These
are
lots
that
are
scattered.
M
Many
of
them
came
through
in
a
sheeted
process
from
the
county.
Some
of
the
Lots
are
40
by
80
or
40
by
60,
which
are
currently
too
small,
but
I
go
back
to
some
of
the
other
conversation
about.
You
know
tiny
homes,
one
of
those
small
Lots
may
be
appropriate
for
at
I
know.
There
have
to
be
code,
changes
to
accommodate
that
with
density
in
the
comp
plan,
but
it
it
still
might
be
a
possibility
than
I
think
right
now.
M
What
everybody's
trying
to
do
with
these
gentlemen
are
trying
to
do
is
just
get
a
little
bit
more
creative
and
think
outside
the
box.
You
know
not
in
this
counseling
gute
says
not.
Everybody
is
ready
for
homeownership,
so
I
think
multifamily
rental
units
does
have
to
be
one
of
the
tools
in
their
toolbox
to
address.
M
Affordable
housing
needs,
especially
I'm,
very
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
whether
they're
in
the
city
or
in
the
county
to
me
doesn't
make
a
difference,
because
if
you're,
servicing
a
population,
that's
35
ami
area,
median
income
or
65
percent
of
area
median
income,
that's
fabulous
because
that's
a
big
there's,
a
big
need
for
that.
Those
are
about
as
poor
as
you
can
get
and
not
be
homeless.
Basically,
thank.
B
G
Color
shirt,
thank
you,
Tom
and
these
gentlemen.
What
I've
been
curious
about
is
Multi
multi,
family
ownership.
If
there's,
if
y'all
have
seen
any
opportunity
for
that,
are
there
any
programs
for
that?
Because,
as
mr.
Goods
indicated,
not
everybody
can
afford
a
you
know
a
home,
a
traditional
home
would
be
the
single-family,
but
maybe
the
first
step
is
a
townhouse.
You
know
onde
townhouse
to
get
them
some
equity
built
up
before
they
move
into
the
separate
single-family
home
yeah.
B
G
M
N
No
there's
no
specific
programs
to
the
state.
You
could
see
Shawn
Wilson
thanks
guy
communities
to
the
councilman
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
programs
to
build
a
new
home
ownership
multifamily,
but
what
the
the
city
in
the
county
do
have
I
believe
our
downpayment
assistance
programs,
where
somebody
might
be
able
to
find
a
townhouse
for
150
175
if
they
exist
out
there
or
200
and
get
down
payment
assistance
in
the
neighborhood
of
ten
or
twenty
thousand,
and
it
fills
a
small
gap.
N
That's
not
for
the
60%
every
area,
meaning
income,
households
that
unique
you
need
to
be
in
the
you
know,
dollars
thousands
of
dollars
per
year.
You
probably
need
to
be
in
45,
50,
55
thousand
dollars
per
year,
household
income
to
afford
that
and
that's
a
different
target
market
than
than
who
we
serve
yeah.
M
Don't
I,
don't
think
there's
any
federal
regulations
or
requirements
against
that
you
have
to
only
build
single-family
houses
or
you
know
what
I
mean
I
think
a
townhome
development
of
affordable
units.
You
know
six
eight
units
at
a
clip,
just
anecdotally,
able
to
say
I,
can't
think
of
a
single
federal
regulation
against
something
like
that
happening.
Of
course,
Vanessa
may
be
watching
and
saying.
What
are
you
crazy?
All.
F
M
F
The
last
thing
we
had
Vanessa
come
talk
to
us
about
affordable
housing,
but
that
was
with
our
city
council
had
on
with
the
CRA
hats
on
maybe
our
next
meeting.
We
can
try
to
schedule
something
in
the
future,
but
it'd
be
great
to
have
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
kind
of
workshop
with
you
all
to
talk
about
how
the
CRA
can
bring
affordable
housing
to
all
those.
M
L
M
K
Thank
you
very
much,
gentlemen.
He's
telling
you
never
I
guess
maybe
one
day
you
do
have
to
apologize
for
something
egregious,
but
you
never
have
to
apologize
to
us
you're,
always
the
gentleman
and
you're
always
a
pleasure
to
work
with.
So
just
no
apologies
are
in
the
okay
appreciate
counsel.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
sir
okay.
Next,
we
move.
Oh
yes,.
C
C
K
A
K
We
have
a
motion
by
councilman
Scott
go
a
second
by
Councilman
Miranda,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
okay.
Mr.
Crewe,
if
you
could,
please
swear
in
the
respective
witnesses,
sir,
if
you
are
going
to
be
speaking
than
any
of
the
items
on
the
agenda
tonight,
all
of
which
are
quasi-judicial.
Please
stand
up
if
you're
able
to
do
so,
raise
your
right
hand
if
you're
will
do
so
and
prepare
to
be
sworn
in.
P
P
Mary
cemani
a
go
planning,
design
and
development
coordination
item
number
four
and
item
number
nine
missed
notice
and
they
cannot
be
heard
because
they
did
not
file
their
affidavit,
so
they
will
be
rescheduled
and
item
number.
Eight
are
easy:
1939
submitted
a
letter
of
continuance
request
to
continue
to
be
November,
14
2019
meeting
at
6:00
p.m.
K
C
A
K
Let
me
ask
if
I
may,
if
there's
any
public,
is
anybody
here
here
to
comment
solely
on
the
continuance
on
item
number
8,
which
is
for
the
property
at
two
seven
zero
one,
two,
two
seven
one:
three
west
Mississippi
Avenue
when
1513
South
our
awana
Avenue
in
1520,
south
of
Dana,
and
it's
solely
on
the
continuance
ma'am?
If
you
sure,
okay,
making.
C
A
A
K
K
P
D
J
Good
evening,
council
members,
David
Haines
with
your
Planning
Commission
staff,
I,
have
been
sworn.
We
start
the
evening
off
in
the
university
planning
district.
More
specifically
the
University
Square
neighborhood,
the
subject
site
is
adjacent
to
transit
along
North
15th
Street
trains
is
provided
by
the
roof
hearts
route
42,
which
connects
the
subject
site
to
the
Yukon
Transfer
Center,
and
the
University
Area
Transit
Center.
The
closest
public
recreational
facility
is
Copeland
Park,
which
is
located
approximately
4
Non
feet
to
the
north
of
the
subject
site
and
the
property
is
located
within
a
level
e
evacuation
zone.
J
Charm
Lane:
this
is
15th
Street
right
here
you
can
see
in
the
upper
right
of
the
aerial.
That's
called
blood
Park,
the
area's
predominant,
a
single-family
detached
there
are
some
town.
Excuse
me
some
duplexes
directly
to
the
west
of
the
subject
site.
The
applicant
is
seeking
approval
through
their
special
use,
to
allow
for
daycare
within
a
single
family
home
for
a
maximum
of
45
children.
J
The
applicant
is
also
proposing
three
parking
spaces
instead
of
the
eleven
required
by
the
land
development
code,
though,
the
request
for
the
daycare
is
overall,
comparable
and
compatible
with
that
surrounding
development
pattern.
Planning
Commission
staff
did
have
concerns
that
the
transportation
waivers
will
negate
could
potentially
negatively
impact.
The
neighbor
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood
Planning
Commission
staff
requests
that
the
applicant
continued
to
work
with
the
city
of
Tampa
transportation
division
to
mitigate
the
in
potential
impacts
with
those
waivers.
J
Overall,
though,
the
applicants
requests
will
create
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
that
will
serve
the
needs
of
the
residents
of
University
Square
neighborhood.
The
request
is
comparable
and
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area
as
and
is
consistent
with
the
policy
direction
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
Based
on
that
Planning
Commission
staff
finds
the
request.
A
special
use
request
consistent
with
the
Pend
comprehensive
plan
thanks,
sir
any.
G
David
I'm
not
sure
if
I
should
ask
you
or
Mary
I
know,
I
know
in
like
alcoholic
beverage
context.
We
asked
for
police
reports.
Do
we
know
of
any
code
enforcement
history
on
this,
because
apparently
she
was
operating
this
for
a
period
of
time
since
she
got
approval
in
2008
and
then
it
stopped
for
180
days.
So
that's
why
she's
back
in
front
of
us
again.
I
G
P
L
H
P
P
So
Mary
semi
a
go
again.
They
are
the
properties
located
at
1:07
0-1
North,
15th
Street.
It
was
approved
for
daycare
in
2008.
It
was
case
number
v08,
one.
Two
three,
the
property
owner
went
through
permitting
and
changed
the
house
into
a
day
care
unit
and
put
all
the
required
infrastructure
and
parking
lot
and
driveway
cuts
in
compliance
with
that
2008
site
plan,
so
it
was
operating
as
a
daycare.
At
some
point,
the
applicant
and
chicken-ass
answered
this
directly
sees
the
operation
of
the
daycare.
P
H
H
H
P
There's
only
two
there's
three
parking
spaces:
there
front
here's
the
proposed
site
plan
again,
it's
very
close
to
what
was
approved
before,
so
it
was
a
residential
structure,
there's
an
ad
a
spot
there
and
then
just
to
partner
spaces.
So,
as
one
would
drive
by
it
would
read
like
a
house
based
on
the
current
configuration
again,
the
configuration
somewhat
matches
the
2008
plan,
however,
because
she's
in
today
she
has
to
meet
today's
codes.
P
We
assumed
worst-case
scenario
that
every
child
is
an
infant,
because
that's
the
most
conservative
parking
requirement
that
we
have,
which
is
one
staff
member
for
for
infants,
and
then
the
parking
is
based
on
number
of
staff,
so
in
the
worst
case
scenario
for
a
daycare
of
45
children
assuming
they're
all
infants,
that
would
require
11
parking
spaces
and
she's
proposing
3
other
than
that.
Because
of
the
parking
waiver
and
the
access
to
term
Lane
transportation
did
find
this
inconsistent.
P
P
Q
Evening,
I'm
Eleanor
fields
of
property,
owner
1,
0,
701
or
15th
Street
I've,
been
there
for
22
years,
I've
been
living
there
for
quite
a
long
time,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
neighborhood
I'm
very
familiar
with
my
neighbors
and
I
see
a
need
in
the
community.
I
saw
the
need
several
years
back,
but
due
to
family
concerns,
I
had
to
pull
away
and
take
care
of
some
family
matters.
Now
I'm
here,
I'm
ready
to
move
forward
and,
with
your
permission,
I,
would
love
to
open
up
a
daycare
center
I'm.
Also
in
regards
to
mrs.
Q
Q
So
that
is
the
goal
and
I've
worked
in
child
care
for
over
10
years,
I've
lived
in
Florida
I'm,
a
native
of
Tampa
Florida,
all
my
life,
and
there
are
growing
businesses
that
are
going
through
zoning
and
they're,
transforming
their
homes
and
to
businesses
which
are
providing
jobs
for
the
citizens
in
our
communities.
So
I,
think
by
that
correction.
I
know,
by
having
this
daycare
center
I
will
be
able
to
give
back
to
my
computer
community
by
providing
jobs
and
definitely
being
an
asset
to
the
community.
Q
I
do
as
Mary's
thing
that
I
do
have
three
parking
spaces
which
was
approved
prior
to
this
particular
application
and
that's
generally
how
it
is.
Daycares
I've
worked
the
daycares
that
I've
worked
on
mostly
home
daycares
that
have
been
converted
over
through
zoning
and
going
through
this
exact
same
process
and
usually
there's
only
about
maybe
three
four
teachers
max
and
a
number
of
these
teachers
are
low
income
teachers
that
don't
have
cars,
some
bright
bicycles
to
work,
some
use,
public
transportation
and
there's
route
42
or
bus
number
42.
Q
G
G
Q
G
G
But
on
a
serious
note,
how
do
you
handle
the
drop-off
and
pickup
with
that?
Many
potentially
that
many
children,
let's
say
you're,
wildly
successful,
you're
permitted
up
to
45
by
us,
as
well
as
the
state
or
the
county,
or
does
a
permitting
so
you're?
You
got
that
45.
So
therefore,
potentially
45
parents
come
in
and
going.
How
does
that
not
disrupt
the
the
neighborhood?
Well.
Q
G
Q
In
and
drop
their
kid
off,
it's
fairly
quickly
and
they
pull
out
I've
worked
at
several
childcare
centers
that
have
much
less
space
turnaround.
Space
than
I
do
on
my
property
and
they're
able
to
manage
quite
well
and
I've
worked
at
several
at
least
five
different
childcare
centres
in
Hillsborough
County.
They
have
less
space
and
we
were
able
to
to
do
just
fine.
Just
fine.
There.
Q
Absolutely
we
would
open
up
as
early
as
6:00
6:30,
and
usually
parents
have
to
be
the
work
usually
between
8:00
7:30,
8:00
8:30,
so
the
bulk
of
the
children
that
will
be
coming
in
would
be
between
6:00
6:30
and
about
7:45.
Our
curriculum
starts
at
8:00
o'clock,
so
the
children
will
be
there
in
the
center
during
that
time
and.
G
And
one
last
question:
mr.
chairman:
have
you
you
sent
out
the
notice
to
the
neighbors?
Did
you
hear
back
from
any
I?
Did.
Q
Get
full
support
from
the
neighbors
they're
just
like.
Why
is
it
taking
so
long?
They,
they
think
they've
been
supportive
of
me
in
this
project
for
a
long
time
again,
I've
been
there
22
years
and
they
have
been
working
with
me.
Giving
me
advice,
so
they
all
they're
all
are
supportive
of
this
I've
had
no
negative
feedback
from
the
neighbors
the
first
time
around
and
this
time
around
as
well,
along
with
the
Neighborhood
Association.
Thank.
B
H
Q
B
K
Else.
Okay,
thank
you
very
welcome.
If
anyone
is
here
to
publicly
comment,
an
item
number
two
or
I'm.
Sorry
item
number
No.
Excuse
me:
please
come
forward
at
this
time.
Three
minutes
a
person.
A
B
G
Think
we're
all
in
favor
of
small
business.
Obviously
you
know
what
you're
doing
you've
been
in
the
business
and
you've
taken
on
a
big
task.
So
I'm
gonna
support
you
for
what
it's
worth,
but
I
would
give
you
the
caveat
that,
if
its
second
reading
that
there's
opposition
that
shows
up
and
expresses
concern
about
this
drop-off
pickup
and
and
that's
what
a
thing
I
might
have
to
reconsider
a
little
bit.
But
that's
just
me,
but
I
just
want
to
give
you
that
heads
up
in
mr.
Shelley
and.
C
Mr.
chairman,
just
for
purpose
of
the
record,
if
I
just
have
a
little
colloquy
or
dialogue
with
Councilman
Goodes
mr.
goose,
sir,
you
had
mentioned
in
your
comments
that
you
had
property
nearby,
you
have
nothing
within
the
noticed
area.
Is
that
right?
You
saw
received
no
notice
about
this
particular
hearing.
Okay,
thank
you
and
also
with
regard
to
that.
C
C
Chairman
just
for
counsels
reminder,
this
is
a
special
use.
This
is
not
on
the
sheet
that
you
normally
have
in
front
of
you.
So
I
just
wanted
to
remind
you
that
your
criteria
is
listed
on
pages
four
five
and
six
of
the
staff
reports,
section
27
132
regulations
governing
individual
special
uses
and
the
general
standards
in
27
129.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
You,
sir
anyone
else
and
and
I'll
say
something
name
if
I
may
I
I
agree
with
Councilman
Dean
Felder
sentiments,
which
is
that
there
is
some
risk
here,
I
guess,
if
you'll
there's
risk
with
everything,
but
you
know
especially
given
the
fact
that
you're
seeking
to
do
a
daycare
center
or
something
that's
really
badly
needed
in
there.
That's
an
area
of
working
families,
people
that
get
up
every
day
they
go
to
work.
They
don't
see
their
kids
from
7:30
to
5:00
or
whatever,
and
they
need
businesses
like
yours.
K
You
are
fulfilling
a
real
community
need,
especially
in
that
University
Copeland
Park
area,
so
you're
a
small
business
looking
to
fulfill
a
need.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
fulfilled
responsible
responsibly.
Obviously,
when
you
have
a
history
in
child
care,
you
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
we're
not
talking
about
matters
governed
by
the
state,
we're
more
so
than
that.
That's
a
different
type
of
an
issue
there
we're
talking
about
more,
so
the
transportation
issues,
the
neighborhood
flow
issues.
I,
would
love
to
see
just
from
my
own
peace
of
mind.
K
Q
K
K
F
C
C
F
C
B
C
K
K
J
Good
evening,
council
members
David
Haye
again
with
your
Planning
Commission
staff,
I,
have
been
sworn.
We
remain
in
that
University
planning
district
for
this
next
case.
The
subject
site
is
also
located
within
the
Forest
Hills
neighborhood.
There
is
transit
available
within
the
area.
Heart-Stirring,
14
and
45
served
that
area.
The
site
is
not
located
within
an
evacuation
zone
and
the
closest
public
recreation
facility
is
the
Forest
Hills
Park
Community
Center
on
to
the
aerial
you
could
see.
The
subjects
site
is
right
here.
This
is
Leinbach,
and
this
is
Forest
Hills
place
going
north/south.
J
J
This
portion
of
line
ba
basically
from
Forest,
Hills,
Drive,
west,
actually
east
sorry
down
line
ba,
is
that
residential
20,
that's
represented
by
the
brown
to
the
south,
further
to
the
west
and
to
the
north
in
this
kind
of
tan
color
I
guess
is
that's
the
residential
10
and
then
it
the
density
actually
goes
down.
As
you
go,
north,
the
yellow
is
the
residential
six.
The
green
is
the
golf
course
up
at
Forest
Hills
representing
representing
the
REC
open
space,
future
land
use
category
and
the
blue
represents
public
quasi
public
uses.
J
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
go
to
that
commercial
neighborhood
zoning
district
on
this
point
to
one
acre
subject:
site
under
the
residential
twenty
future
land-use
category
commercial
uses
are
to
meet
the
commercial
locational
criteria
adopted
within
the
Comprehensive
Plan
commercial
uses
under
that
rs.20
category
are
to
have
direct
access
onto
roadways
classified
as
an
arterial
or
collector
access
is
available
to
the
property
from
West
line
ba,
which
is
classified
as
a
collector
roadway,
and
thus
it's
consistent
with
the
commercial
locational
criteria.
Overall,
the
proposed
zoning
is
comparable
and
compatible
with
that.
J
Existing
development
pattern
found
within
this
portion
of
the
neighborhood
directly
to
the
north
and
west
of
the
subject
site
of
commercial
office
uses
and
to
the
east
is
a
church.
Single-Family
detached
residential
is
located
directly
to
the
south
of
the
subjects
site.
Based
on
those
considerations,
the
Planning
Commission
staff
once
proposed
rezoning
consistent
with
the
imagine
2040
temper
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you,
sir.
Very.
P
P
Interestingly,
along
this
intersection
of
Forest
Hills
and
Linebaugh,
it's
kind
of
like
a
commercial
node
in
this
area
if
you've
got
an
office
directly
to
the
west
across
the
street,
there's
another
office
in
this
location.
This
is
a
dental
office.
Here
is
a
place
of
religious
assembly,
so
there's
a
small
cluster
of
kind
of
neighborhoods
serving
businesses
and
opposite
already
established
in
this
area.
Again
they're
asking
there
be
reasons
of
commercial
neighborhood.
The
existing
lot
meets
the
dimensional
criteria
for
the
CN
zoning
district.
P
Am
I
provided
in
my
staff
report,
a
list
of
all
the
permitted
uses
that
would
be
allowed
if
this
property
were
to
be
approved
to
the
C,
inserting
districts
there
are
no
waivers
being
requested
and
there's
no
site
and
review.
The
applicant
is
simply
wanting
to
develop
NEC
and
use,
provided
they
meet
all
applicable
code
requirements.
Seeing
that
that
a
Bowman
compliant
stuff
now
is
reviewed.
This
application
about
a
consistent
with
the
city
of
Tampa
land
development
code,
any.
R
Council
good
evening,
I'm
Michael,
Horner,
14
502,
north
dale
mabry
highway
tampa
represent
the
applicant.
I
think
Mary's
record
is
quite
thorough.
This
project
this
structure
has
been
in
place
since
1947
CJ's
tavern
was
quite
a
popular
place
for
years.
It's
a
good
place
to
hang
out.
Unfortunately,
it
fell
on
some
disrepair
and
fell
on
some
bad
times.
The
prior
owner
gave
up
left
it.
I
client
Miss
Beckett's
and
her
partner
bodies.
They
stuck
their
neck
out.
R
They
purchase
it
without
having
the
legal,
conforming
zoning
of
CN,
which
is
needed,
and
they
have
already
gone
through
permitting
I
wish.
Mary
had
shown
additional
photographs
and
excuse
me
for
not
bringing
my
current
ones,
but
they
have
done
a
phenomenal
job.
Entire
stucco
has
been
improved
and
repainted
landscaping
is
being
proposed.
New
windows
inside
Glen
told
me
that
it
took
a
week
defog
and
decontaminate
the
inside.
There
was
about
a
half
inch
thick
nicotine
yellow
layer.
It
took
them
substantial
amount
of
time
and
money
to
redo
this.
It's
been
a
mainstay.
R
It's
popular,
it's
been
supported
by
the
residents,
it's
no
longer
a
tab
or
they
don't
really
have
the
interest
in
the
tavern
aspect,
but
they
do
want
to
contribute
to
the
neighborhood,
improve
it
and
bring
it
back
to
neighborhoods
serving
News
we've
reached
out
to
the
neighborhood
no
opposition.
My
surveyor
works
down
the
street
Landscape
Architect
as
his
office
just
to
the
east.
It's
just
a
great
location.
It's
just
exciting
to
see
something.
Come
back
so
happy,
you're,
answering
your
questions.
Any
questions
comes.
B
G
K
G
R
Just
for
my
there
rehabbing
it
right
now,
so
it's
open,
it
does
have
a
commercial
kitchen,
so
they
have
replaced
they're.
Looking
for
tenants
on
the
bottom
floor,
actually
the
top
floor
used
to
be
an
office
or
excused
to
be
two
flats.
Now
looking
at
converting
that
to
professional
office
space.
On
the
second
floor,
it's
only
about
a
2,200
square
foot.
K
B
K
G
P
If
I
may,
no,
it
is
not
allowed
use
in
the
same
zoning
district,
okay,.
R
Is
open
right
now,
they're
replacing
gravel
they're
doing
outside
vegetation,
but
it's
an
open
drop
curb
along
the
western
side.
Albany
and
long
line
ball
avenues,
so
it's
not
channelized.
They
bought
it,
as
is
it's
very
small.
Sightings
are
being
fed,
0.21
acres.
So
that's
why
they
cannot
do
a
whole
lot
of
truck
intensive
uses
in
there
for
the
parking
issue
and.
G
R
R
K
B
D
Bv
1978
mornings
being
presented
for
first
reading
consideration
an
owners,
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
1318
Westland
boy
Avenue
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classification
or
as
50
residential
single-family,
the
C
and
commercial,
providing
an
effective
date
base
on
the
that
the
petition
has
met
the
burden
of
proof
to
provide
competence
attention
so
that
development
conditions
shown
of
the
site
is
consistent.
A
comprehensive
plan,
city
code
and
I
know
the
place.
D
G
G
D
K
P
J
If
you
can
counsel
members
david
haye
again
with
your
Planning
Commission
staff,
I
haven't
once
we
remain
in
that
University
planning
district.
For
this
next
case.
More
specifically,
this
subject
site
is
located
within
the
Lowry
Park
Central
neighborhood.
There
is
transit
within
the
area
on
waters,
heart
route,
16
connects
the
subject
site
to
the
Yukon
Northwest
transfer,
centers
and
the
subject
site
is
located
within
an
evacuation
zone
II.
J
Here
we
have
the
aerial.
This
is
North
Albany
going
north-south
waters.
You
can
see
this
section
of
waters
has
a
lot
of
commercial
uses.
There's
apartments
directly
to
the
north.
There
are
single-family
detached
directly
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site
and
to
the
south.
This
is
a
large
tico
substation
onto
the
future.
J
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
rezone
this
subject
this
subject:
site
which
is
2.15
acres
to
that
commercial
intensive
zoning
district.
The
community
commercial
35
designation
is
present
along
this
portion.
The
southern
portion
of
the
subject
site
interfaces
parcels
with
that
residential
ten,
which
have
been
developed
a
single-family
detached
homes,
Planning
Commission
staff
encourages
the
applicant
to
appropriately
buffer
the
subject
site
from
the
single
family
homes
to
minimize
impacts
on
the
surrounding
residents
and
ensure
compatibility
with
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
That's
based
on
line
to
use
policy.
J
Fifteen
point
two
point:
four:
overall,
through
the
assessment
of
the
character
of
the
area
in
the
policy
direction
within
the
Comprehensive
Plan
Planning
Commission
staff
has
determined
that
the
proposed
rezoning
is
comparable
and
compatible
with
the
Lowry
Park
Central
neighborhood,
and
it
does
recommend
that
this
rezoning
request
be
found
consists.
The
provisions
of
the
Tampa
Comprehensive
Plan.
P
Marry
cemani
a
go
I'm
again,
the
requesting
and
rezoning
to
commercial
intensive.
The
property
is
two
point:
one:
five
acres:
it's
currently
occupied
by
the
white
house
use
formally
the
tempo
tent
rental,
which
was
constructed
in
1954
as
David
indicated.
It's
an
Alandise
category
which
seeks
to
transition
properties
up
to
the
commercial
intensive
zoning
district
for
which
the
applicant
is
requesting.
P
Here
is
a
zoning
method
to
the
surrounding
areas.
David
has
indicated:
there's
apartment
buildings
in
the
RM,
twenty-four
zoning
district
to
the
north
on
the
north
side
of
West,
Waters
Avenue,
the
seventy
property
in
minutes
red.
There
are
small
warehousing
and
office
uses
directly
to
the
west,
as
well
as
an
office
used
directly
to
the
east
across
Albany
Avenue,
all
within
the
commercial
general
zoning
district,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
rs.50
single-family
zoning
district
across
Albany
to
the
west,
I'm,
sorry
to
the
east
and
to
the
south.
P
P
All
of
the
potential
uses
that
are
allowed
in
the
CI
zoning
district
are
listed
in
your
staff
report.
I
would
remind
city
council
that
when
you
approve
a
Euclidean
presenting
to
a
specific
zoning
district,
you
are
considering
in
any
any
use.
That's
allowed
or
permissible
within
the
zoning
district
could
be
developed
on
this
site.
Saying
that
the
developer
being
compliant
staff
did
find
this
consistent
with
the
city
of
template
land
development
code.
Do
you
have
any
specific
questions
for
me
at
the
questions.
G
G
Planet
Commission
staff
mentioned
about
buffering.
You
know
and
I
can't
remember
the
term
that
you
use
David,
encourage,
encourage
buffering
or
something
along
those
lines.
So,
let's
say
the
property.
The
project
was
redeveloped
and
looking
at
the
aerial
you
know,
let's
say
they
start
clearing
out
some
trees
and
adding
buildings
and
in
commercial.
G
L
R
Chairman
and
council
Michael
Werner
iam
14
502
Northdale
Mary,
Highway,
Tampa
3
3
6
1
8
proposed
in
the
applicant
I,
haven't
sworn
good
questions.
My
clients
have
owned
this
property
for
decades.
It
has
numerous
warehouse
structures
that
are
non-conforming
because
CG
allowed
them
at
one
time.
Cg
no
longer
allows
warehouses.
These
structures
are
not
in
good
shape,
but
not
in
good
condition.
There
are
multiple
support
structures
that
are
equally
important
tends
to
build
one,
maybe
two
brand
new
warehouses.
It
is
the
Tampa
tent
rental
operations,
they've
been
a
good
tenant.
R
They
not
want
to
consolidate
their
operation
in
terms
of
single-family
buffering.
We
have
to
go
through
the
redevelopment
we
have
to
go
through
site
review.
We
have
to
meet
all
the
buffer
matrix
criteria
for
the
landscaping.
We
are
the
endcap
that
CC,
35
and
I
might
also
add.
My
client
owns
the
for
residential
RS
50
zone
Lots
to
the
south,
so
he
is
not
only
a
vested
commercial
interest,
holder
he's
also
residential.
So
anyone
who's
going
to
be
concerned
about
that
in
her
face.
R
My
client
has
those
houses
and
owns
them
and
is
invested
substantially
in
them.
We're
on
waters,
Avenue
I,
just
realized
counsel
that
I
reference
Albany
Avenue
in
the
last
case,
Matt
Flores,
tails
I
had
this
on
my
mind,
the
last
one
I
looked
at,
so
let
the
record
reflect
that
the
prior
case
actually
was
on
porous
hills
and
not
Albany,
which
this
case
that
we.
R
A
G
Other
quick
question,
egress
and
ingress
I
know
again:
it's
not
a
PD,
so
it's
not
exactly
like.
We
can
control
it.
But
what
is
the
current
egress
and
ingress
to
the
to
the
operation.
K
Okay,
is
anyone
here
to
publicly
comment
on
item
number
five,
and
so
please
come
forward.
A
G
P
P
You
thank
you
Jonathan.
The
code
says
that
commercial
traffic
does
not
buy
right,
have
access
to
local
residential
streets.
So
in
order
to
get
a
new
driveway
cut,
if
it
were
to
go
through
the
change
of
use
process,
they
would
have
to
come
in
for
a
PD
or
some
sort
of
technical
design
exception
to
transportation,
to
get
a
driveway
cut.
So.
G
P
So
if
it
does
the
warehouse
can
the
existing
warehouse
can
keep
the
driveway.
Even
if
the
rezoning
is
approved.
If
a
new
air
warehouse
moves,
then
they
can
keep
that
driveway
if
a
a
medical
marijuana
use
goes
in,
that
is
a
change
of
use.
They
have
to
go
through
evaluation
of
all
it's
on
my
brain.
It
has
to
go
through
a
revaluation
of
all
driveway
cuts.
Then
the
provision
that
you
can't
have
a
commercial
cut
on
a
local
residential
street
would
kick
in,
but.
G
P
R
K
D
19
83
I
moved
for
an
ordinance
being
presented
first
reading,
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
2102
West
waters,
Avenue
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
more
particular
described
in
section
one
from
zoning,
district
classification,
CG,
commercial,
general
and
excuse
me,
classifications,
CG,
commercial,
general
and
rs.50
residential
single-family,
2ci
commercial,
intensive,
providing
an
effective
date,
as
the
petitioners
petitioner
has
met
the
burden
of
proof
to
provide
competent
statue
evidence
and
a
hearing
that
the
rezoning
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
pan
plan
with
no
waivers,
and
it
is
in
a
mixed
use
area.
We.
P
J
J
J
This
is
where
the
colonnade
restaurant
was,
which
is
now
that
around
20
story
tower
there's
all
it's
either
multifamily
or
townhomes.
All
within
this
area.
Here
the
single-family
detached
really
doesn't
kick
in
until
the
parcels
on
julia
circle,
on
east
west
of
MacDill
avenue
on
to
the
future
land
use
map.
J
This
is
the
subject
site
right
in
the
center.
This
is
MacDill.
This
is
the
cross
town.
Of
course,
this
is
Bayshore.
This
brown
color
is
the
residential
35
that
allows
up
to
35
dwelling
units
per
acre
where
the
colonnade
is
in
the
dark
brown.
That's
and
up
there.
Also
that's
the
residential
83.
That's
the
most
intense
residential
district
in
all
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
J
J
The
the
applicant
is
seeking
to
rezone
to
that
arm.
24
on
the
point
11
acre
site,
the
residential
35
future
land
use
designation
is
present.
Multifamily
is
encouraged
within
the
residential
35
future
land
use
category
to
provide
a
higher
density
with
greater
residential
development
is
desired.
That's
based
on
land
use
policy.
Nine
point
six
point:
three:
overall,
the
residential
35
future
land
use
category
encourages
compact
higher
density
development
that
is
comparable
with
the
surrounding
development
pattern.
The
zoning
the
requested
zoning
district
is,
would
be
consistent
with
those
policies.
J
This
portion
of
West
Julia
Street
on
the
parcels
with
a
future
land
use
designation
of
residential
35.
They
have
an
existing
density
of
thirteen
point.
Nine
units
per
acre,
the
post
rezoning,
would
allow
consideration
of
up
to
three
dwelling
units
on
the
subject
site
based
on
the
site
acreage
with
an
overall
density
of
twenty-seven
units
per
acre.
This
is
compatible
with
the
underlying
future
land-use
category
of
residential
35.
J
P
So
you
can
make
that
change
at
this
first
reading,
saying
that
the
square
footage
of
a
lot
of
5,000
square
feet,
it
meets
the
minimum
standards
for
both
zoning
districts.
They
are
an
18
which
is
not
a
kind
of
request.
Given
the
density
factor
that
the
arm
18
and
the
5,000
square
foot
size
of
the
property
of
maximum
two
dwelling
units
could
be
developed
on
the
site.
Any
development
that
were
to
occur
would
have
to
comply
with
all
applicable
land
development
code
requirements
and
there's
no
site
plan
to
review.
P
L
Good
evening
Council
Steve
Michael
any
representing
the
petitioner,
as
the
staff
has
pointed
out,
the
land
uses
of
res
35,
which
was
allows
the
35
units,
the
acre,
it's
5,000
square
feet.
This
is
a
area
that's
under
a
lot
of
transition.
You
have
a
extremely
high
density,
high
rise
of
just
half
a
block
away
at
Bayshore
and
Julia.
There
are
no
waivers
being
requested
and
none
would
be
allowed.
L
So
our
feeling
was
that
the
RM
25
in
the
event
that
some
subsequent
owner
purchased
the
property
could
develop
three
units,
and
that
was
not
what
we
were
going
with
this
development.
We
felt
that
two
units
was
far
more
appropriate
and
that's
why
we
changed
the
request
from
our
m24
to
RM
18.
So,
just
for
the
record,
we
respectfully
requesting
RM
18
on
this
parcel.
L
It
was
found
to
be
consistent
by
the
city
staff
and
the
Hillsborough
County
Planning
Commission,
and
we
believe
that
is
sensitive
to
the
other
surrounding
developments,
as
they
pointed
out,
it's
surrounded
by
either
townhouses
or
a
little
bit
further
the
east
by
high-density
Bayshore
development.
So
if
you
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
but
we're
respectfully
requesting
your
approval
to
go
to
our
mo
18.
K
L
C
C
E
Mean
Kristen
were
a
legal
department.
I
have
reviewed
the
ordinance
you
only
change
needs
to
be
made,
and
the
title
of
the
ordinance,
which
was
what
has
to
be
read
this
evening,
is
a
change
the
number
24
to
18.
So
if
the
councilmember
that
reads,
this
ordinance
could
read
the
18
and
we
will
get
a
corrected
or
deads
down
here,
for
you
immediately.
C
K
A
Sir,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
an
ordinance
be
presented
to
the
first
reading.
Consideration
orders,
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
three
thousand
eight
West
Julia
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
who's,
owning
district
classification,
rs.60
residential
six
single-family
to
RM
eighteen
residential
multifamily,
providing
an
effective
date,
because
the
petitioner
has
met
its
burden
of
proof
to
provide
competent
and
substantial
evidence
that
the
rezoning
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
also
that
it
is
found
consistent
for
our
city
of
Tampa
staff
report.
We.
K
P
J
G
Yes,
sir,
before
you
get
gone,
this
parcel
is
within
about
two
blocks
about
five
houses
as
the
crow
flies
from
my
house,
so
I
just
wanted
to
disclose
that
it's
I
mean
it's
in
mine.
It's
in
my
little
neighborhood
matter
of
fact:
I
was
driving
down
the
street
yesterday
side
and
then
I
was
continuing
down
the
street
in
this
giant
limb.
I
know
this
sounds
crazy.
This
giant
limb
of
a
tree
fell
down.
It
was
this
big
and
it
and
it
grazed
my
car
Oh.
This.
C
G
C
So
you're,
not
within
the
zoning
area,
you
have
no
financial
stake
in
the
outcome
for
better
or
worse,
relating
to
the
matter.
That's
before
council,
it
doesn't
affect
you
financially
in
any
sort
of
way.
Is
that
correct,
true
and-
and
you
have
not
been
noticed,
therefore,
it
is
my
professional
opinion
that
under
Florida
Statutes
you're
obligated
to
protect
participate
so
long
as
you
could
be
fair
and
impartial
and
listen
to
the
evidence
and
base
it
on
the
confidence.
Substantial
evidence
in
the
record.
Is
that
true?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you
very
much
and.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Next,
we
move
on
to
the
aerial.
You
could
see.
Here's
the
subject
site
this
is
West
San,
Nicolas
Street.
This
is
MacDill.
There
are
some
commercial
uses
you
could
see
on
this
portion
of
big
deal.
There's
also
some
office
uses
scattered
throughout.
There
are
some
townhomes
that
you
can
see
scattered,
but
the
predominant
area
is
single-family,
detached,
especially
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site.
This
is
the
Palma
Ceia
Country
Club.
J
Here
we
are
with
the
future
land
use
map.
Again
this
is
MacDill
Avenue,
San,
Nicolas
Street,
it's
hard
to
see,
but
a
portion
of
the
site,
the
Western,
a
small
western
portion
of
the
site,
does
have
some
of
that
community
mixed-use
35
on
it,
the
rest
of
the
site
is
this
brown
color,
which
is
residential
20.
The
trans
color
further
to
the
east,
is
that
residential
ten
and
then
the
yellow
across
on
the
west
side
of
MacDill
is
residential.
Six.
J
Those
are
the
houses
that
back
up
to
the
golf
course
there's
a
commercial
node
located
to
the
south,
basically
anchored
at
bata,
Bay
and
MacDill.
This
red
is
all
the
community
commercial
35
and,
as
you
move
further
east
toward
Bayshore,
the
density
does
go
up
with
some
rs.20,
whereas
83
and
res
50,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
rezone,
is
0.15
acre
site
from
the
commercial
general
to
the
residential
single-family
to
recognize
an
existing
single-family
detached
home
on
the
property.
J
This
portion
of
West,
San,
Nicola
Street,
excluding
the
subject
site,
has
a
density
of
8.3
units
per
acre
proposed
rezoning
would
allow
for
the
consideration
of
one
single
family
resident
at
an
overall
density
of
6.6
units.
This
request
is
below
the
existing
block
density
and
the
maximum
of
20
dwelling
units
per
acre
that
could
be
considered
under
that
residential
20
in
that
small
portion
of
community
mixed-use
35.
Therefore,
the
proposed
rezoning
will
not
alter
the
character
or
development
pattern
of
this
portion
of
the
Palma
Ceia
neighborhood.
J
P
P
Under
the
current
zoning
district
of
commercial
general,
the
a
single-family
detached
house
is
permissible,
but
especially
used
one
which
is
especially
use
approval
required
with
a
site
plan
approval
at
staff
level,
the
applicant,
and
he
can
speak
more
directly
to
this
newly
acquired
the
property
due
to
lending
institutions
and
an
title
and
that
sort
of
thing.
Then
the
intent
is
to
rezone
the
property
to
rezoning
district,
where
a
single-family
house
as
a
buy
right
allowed
use
as
opposed
to
being
a
special
use
one.
P
So
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
downzone
their
property
to
RS
50,
which
would
allow
one
detached
single-family
house,
which
is
existing
by
rights,
and
the
car
is
no
special
approval.
The
surrounding
area
to
the
north
into
the
south.
As
you
can
see
our
single-family
houses,
it
is
along
the
commercial
corridor
of
CG
uses
along
South
McDowell
Avenue.
P
There
is
no
site
plan
under
review.
It's
not
a
plan.
Development,
no
waivers
to
consider
staff
did
find
this
consistent
with
the
city
to
have
the
land
development
code,
stopping
the
development
and
review
a
compliant
staff
to
download
this
property
to
RS
50
to
retain
its
permissible
use
as
RS
50
45
single-family
house,
as
opposed
to
allowing
for
commercial
general
development,
primarily
also,
you
can
see.
I
will
note
on
the
zoning
map,
the
commercial
general
design
comes
down,
and
then
it
jogs
out
for
this
property
so
that
this
property
were
to
be
rezone
to
RS.
P
B
B
Street
and
dealing
with
lending
institutions
and
mortgage
brokers
thing
like
that:
they're
highly
recommend
for
resale
value
to
have
this
return
to
residential.
They
brought
up
the
scenario
that
the
home
burned
down
with
the
insurance
company
now
require
this
home
to
be
built
back:
that's
just
commercial
only
or
would
they
not
honor
the
client,
based
on
that?
It's
owned
this
commercial
and
not
put
a
residential
home
back
in
the
spot.
So,
in
order
to
make
my.
K
Anything
else,
sir.
No
any
questions
for
the
end.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir
I
appreciate.
If
anybody
is
here
to
speak
on
item
number
seven
for
public
comment.
Please
come
forward.
We
have
a
motion
to
close
by
Councilman
Miranda,
a
second
by
Councilman
Goods,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
councilman
goods.
Do
you
mind,
sir?
Taking
item
number
seven?
It
was.
H
Jimmy
Fowler
more
are
easy,
19
of
93
what
has
been
presented
for
first
reconsideration,
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
31
30,
15
West's
and
Nichols
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
and
will
particular
Scrat
and
section
one
from
zoning.
District
classification,
CG
commercial,
general
RS,
50,
residential
single-family,
providing
effective
date.
P
Cemani
a
go
plan
of
design
and
development
coordination
item
number
10
is
our
easy
1956.
It's
a
rezoning
request
for
a
plan
development
for
multi-family
residential
with
Pravana
a
bonus
provision.
Agreement
meant
for
sewage,
27
140
of
the
city
of
Tampa
land
development
code
increased
the
density
from
eight
to
nine
felony,
which.
J
Councilmembers
David
Haye
again
with
your
finding
Commission
staff
I,
have
been
sworn
we're
in
the
central
Tampa
planning
district.
For
this
case
there
is
transit
along
Kennedy
Boulevard,
which
is
located
just
to
the
north
of
the
subject
site.
The
the
subject
site
is
located
within
a
level
C,
evacuation
zone
and
I
know
it's
very
small,
but
the
closest
public
recreation
facility
is
snow
park
based
on
the
measurement
I,
don't
know
how
much
can
occur
there,
but
you
could
stand
there.
I
guess,
look
at
the
here.
D
J
Here
we
have
the
aerial.
This
is
willow.
Of
course,
this
is
fire
station
number
three
to
the
north,
that's
at
the
southeast
corner
of
Kennedy
and
Willow.
This
is
Cleveland
and,
of
course
this
is
the
Lee
Roy
Selmon.
You
can
see
that
there
are
a
mixture
there's
mostly
offices
to
the
west,
there's
multi-family
and
townhomes
predominantly
to
the
south
of
to
the
east,
and
then,
of
course
you
get.
This
is
the
University
of
Tampa
up
here,
and
this
is
going
to
be
Tampa
generals,
new
campus.
J
They
you
all
approved
a
couple
years
back
on
to
the
future
land
use
map
the
subject
site
and
all
these
properties
within
the
brown
are
that
residential
35.
It
immediately
goes
up
in
to
as
you
move
further
west
down.
Cleveland
goes
up
to
the
community
commercial
35
that
allows
that
CI
zoning
district
and
then
the
properties,
including
the
portion
of
the
fire
station,
all
this
pink
color
that
is
urban,
mixed-use,
sixty
and
then
down
on
plat.
You
have
the
community
mixed-use
35
that
allows
them
up
to
a
cg
zoning
district.
J
The
see
under
that
residential
35
applicants
get
up
to
a
30
by
right
and
then
to
utilize
up
to
the
35.
They
have
to
go
into
that
development
agreement
that
Mary
had
mentioned,
based
on
that
with
the
the
applicant
is
requesting
up
to
nine
units
that
that
ninth
unit
is
triggering
the
need
for
the
development
agreement.
J
The
Tampa
comprehensive
plan
encourages
the
development
and
retention
of
a
diversity
of
housing
types
to
meet
the
needs
of
Tampa's
present
and
future
populations.
The
comprehensive
plan
promotes
this
is
another
that
we
had
discussions
with
staff
in
multifamily
buildings.
There
is
a
comp
plan
policy
that
talks
about.
They
really
should
have
some
sort
of
door
oriented
to
the
public
right-of-way.
The
applicant
has
worked.
They
have
included
a
door
the
when
it
originally
came
in
there
wasn't
a
door
on
the
Willow
side.
J
They
have
included
that
as
part
of
their
design,
so
that
would
meet
the
policy
direction
in
the
plan
regarding
multifamily
and
the
orientation
of
that
multivalent.
Overall,
the
plan
development
furthers
many
of
the
housing
policies
in
the
Tampa
Comprehensive
Plan
and
is
consistent
with
that
long
range
development
pattern
encouraged
under
the
residential
35
future
land-use
category,
based
on
that,
the
Planning
Commission
staff
finds
proposed
rezoning
consistent
with
the
provisions
of
the
imagine
forty
temper
comprehensive
plan.
Thank
you
thank.
P
Mary's
Samaniego
again,
this
is
a
plan.
Development
request,
I'll
show
you
the
properties
currently
vacant,
miss
David
indicated
it's
on
South
Willow
here
are
the
railroad
tracks.
Here
is
a
air-conditioned
storage.
There's
a
law
office
jerkin
of
catty-corner
to
the
property
to
the
north
is
a
single-family
house
and
then
to
the
Kennedy.
Boulevard
is
further
to
the
north
right
off
the
screen,
and
these
are
a
series
of
apartment
uses
with
multiple
dwelling
units
in
each
one.
P
Here's
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
again
they
are
proposing
nine
dwelling
units
within
the
three-story
building,
based
on
current
code
provisions.
The
entire
site
is
0.28
acres.
The
proposed
building
is
eleven
thousand
six
hundred
square
feet
and
that's
how
the
main
pedestrian
entrance
off
of
Willow
Avenue.
P
The
proposed
setbacks
are
to
the
north
seven
feet
to
the
south.
Four
feet
to
the
east
is
22
feet
and
because
of
the
stairwells
to
the
west
is
a
1
foot.
Setback
proposed
and
the
best
proposed
maximum
building
height
is
45
feet
based
on
the
number
of
dwelling
units
and
the
combination
of
bedrooms.
A
total
of
20
parking
spaces
is
required
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
12
that
40%
parking
reduction
is
subject
to
City
Council.
We
were
approval,
transportation
staff
and
planning
design
and
development
coordination
staff
phone.
P
As
we
indicated,
they
are
asking
for
a
bonus
provision
by
right.
Under
the
conference
a
plan,
they
only
get
eight
dwelling
units
they're
asking
for
one
additional
dwelling
unit,
subject
to
a
development
agreement
that
has
been
reviewed
by
the
city
legal
department
that
bins
density
bonus
payments
will
be
crewed
up
at
permitting,
but
it's
approximately
sixteen
thousand
nine
hundred
sixty
seven
dollars
and
eleven
cents
that
improvement
will
provide
for
anticipated,
off-site
impacts
for
the
increased
density
through
payment
into
a
capital,
improvement
program
or
another
similar
surrounding
area
project.
P
As
far
as
the
waivers
being
requested,
those
are
found
on
page
one,
the
first
wave
risks
of
section
27
to
eighty
three
point:
seven
again
to
reduce
the
parking
from
twenty
spaces
down
to
twelve,
which
is
a
forty
percent
parking
reduction.
The
second
waiver
is
227
two,
eighty,
three
twelve.
They
required
backup
distance
for
a
parking
space
is
24
feet
because
of
the
design
of
the
project.
Only
a
19-foot
backup
distance
is
proposed.
For
these
we
see
five
lot,
five
parking
spaces.
P
So
that's
the
second
waiver,
a
third
waiver
request
to
27
to
eighty
four
is
to
contribute
to
the
tree.
Trust
fund
for
mitigation
of
required
trees,
as
you
can
see,
there's
very
limited,
green
space
on
the
subject:
property
based
on
the
tree
table
for
the
trees
being
removed,
as
well
as
their
trees
that
are
required
to
be
installed.
There's
simply
not
enough
room
on
site
to
plan
all
of
those
trees,
so
they're
asking
for
a
waiver
to
put
money
into
the
tree,
trust
fund
for
the
mitigation
trees,
the
fourth
waiver
being
requested.
P
Two
hundred
seventy
two.
Eighty
four
point:
four:
to
reduce
the
use
buffer
to
the
north
property
line
from
five
to
three
feet.
This
is
a
single-family
house.
The
code
states
that
the
buffer
and
purposes
a
multi-family
development
adjoining
a
single-family
detached
development
requires
a
five
foot
landscape
buffer.
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
waiver
to
go
down
to
three
feet
and
that
waiver
approval
is
subject
to
in
a
loop
aimin
at
time
of
permitting,
and
the
last
waiver
that's
being
requested.
Is
the
code
requires
for
multifamily
development
less
than
six
stories.
P
There
are
several
revisions
by
planning
design
and
development
coordination
if
this
were
to
be
approved
between
first
and
second
reading.
So
please
make
sure
that
you
include
the
revision
sheet
in
your
motion.
If
you
do
approve
it,
there
are
changes
from
transportation
as
well
as
natural
resources
and
stormwater,
but
overall
the
development.
P
The
development
review.
Compliance
that
did
find
this
in
consistence
I
will
reference
you
to
the
planning,
design
and
development
coordination
findings
of
facts.
On
page
two,
three
and
four
of
your
staff
report
relating
to
compatibility
and
natural
elements,
basically
because
of
the
40%
parking
reduction
and
the
lack
of
green
space
for
multi-family
provision,
as
well
as
lack
of
green
space
plants
required
and
mitigation
trees,
with
consideration
that
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
density
bonus
to
ask
for
additional
dwelling
units
that
they
would
normally
be
allowed.
G
G
E
Kristin
were
a
legal
department
under
section
27
140
of
your
code,
which
is
our
bonus
provision
section.
It
has
several
options
for
developers
about
what
they
would
like
to
contribute
to.
They.
They
have
a
multitude
of
options
from
undergrounding
utilities
to
provide
an
on
street
parking,
providing
the
affordable
housing
and
then
one
of
the
options
and
tends
to
be
somewhat
of
a
popular
one,
is
to
contribute
to
the
multimodal
district,
and
so
that
is
a
cash
contribution
to
the
multimodal
district.
E
E
E
H
E
The
the
way
that
the
comprehensive
plan
is
set
up
for
many
of
the
comp
plan
categories
is
that
you
have
an
entitlement
to
a
certain
amount
of
density
or
intensity,
and
that
is
allowed
as
of
right.
If
you
go,
if
you
wish
to
go
further
and
provide
additional
density
or
additional
intensity
in
the
case
of
commercial
projects,
you
are
required
to
make
some
sort
of
community
benefit
as
a
result
of
that,
and
so
that
is
the
way
27
140
is
set
up.
E
Is
it
has
a
exact
mathematical
formula
of
an
offset
without
additional
density
and
intensity,
and
some
additional
benefit
that
you
were
providing
in
there
and,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
a
variety
of
different
ways
and
options
to
account,
for
you
know,
different
conditions
and
what
those
issues
may
be.
So
that's
that's
the
way
that
that
is
set
up
in
our
code.
D
E
P
D
O
Good
evening
Louie
Malloy
325
South
Boulevard,
Tampa
Florida.
We
do
realize
we're
asking
for
a
lot
of
waivers
in
this
plan
development
and,
if
it's
not
apparently
a
tenement
project
really
is
to
provide
a
higher
and
off-campus
private
housing
to
support
the
University
of
Tampa.
This
isn't
meant
as
a
traditional
multifamily
development.
O
The
idea
of
walkability
is
a
tremendous
selling
point
for
this
project.
It's
not
to
be
an
automobile
driven
development
and
also,
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
in
2019,
and
especially
in
South
Tampa.
Traditional
transportation
is
and
increasingly
will
be
mitigated
by
involving
forms
of
delivery.
We
have
ride,
shares
ride
services,
we
have
city
provided
alternatives
such
as
bicycle,
rentals,.
I
O
Scooter
services
which
seem
to
have
taken
over
South
Tampa
I,
live
just
across
the
Platte
Street
Bridge
and
there
are
scooters
everywhere,
love
them
or
hate
them.
They
get
dumped
in
my
front
yard.
Occasionally
we
do
hope.
The
Tampa,
which
is
embracing
these
alternative
forms
of
transportation,
could
begin
to
account
for
them
in
evolving
developments
such
as
this
one
again,
this
is
a
student
driven
development.
It's
not
a
traditional
multifamily
one.
Our
builder
who's
here
to
speak.
O
If
need
be,
wouldn't
contemplate
such
a
development,
if
he
couldn't
account
for
a
parking
space
for
every
ten,
that's
not
marketable,
but
that's
not
what
this
project
is
about.
In
this
case,
I
know
that
requesting
the
additional
density
with
the
bonus
and
all
these
waivers
appears
greedy.
But
it's
not
it's
reality.
It's
necessary
to
student
housing
for
the
university
across
the
street,
this
segways
in
a
waiver
number
five,
which
is
the
green
space
issue.
And
again
this
isn't
contemplated
to
be
traditional.
O
We
sacrifice
green
space
to
get
to
the
parking
number
where
at
which
is,
you
know,
obviously
still
low,
given
that
sacrifice,
but
the
project
won't
suffer
from
it.
I
hope
you
see
the
elevations
now
it's
a
good-looking
building,
it's
not
far
off
from
the
bleaker,
which
is
right
down
the
street
off
Cleveland,
it's
completely
in
line
with
the
neighborhood
of
multi-family
development
in
South
Tampa,
and
really
it's
not
going
to
look
anything
like
that.
Little
patch
of
Street
between
the
crosstown
and
Kennedy
Boulevard
on
Willow.
O
G
Yeah
I
did
the
the
division.
Nine
units
for
eleven
thousand
six
hundred
total
square
feet
is
twelve
hundred
eighty
eight
square
feet
per
unit
assuming
they're
all
same
which
enlighted
the
location
of
will.
Are
there
that's
jumped
out
at
me,
I
said:
aha
student
housing
sure
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
Okay,
I'm
sure.
If,
if
he's
gone
to
all
this
effort
and
wants
to
build
it,
there
must
be
market
for
it.
That's
what
that's
great
my
concern.
I,
don't
necessary,
have
a
big
concern
about
the
various
other
waivers,
but
the
park
it.
G
G
But
anyway,
the
point
is:
you've
got
27
bedrooms.
Okay,
you've
got
three
three
bedrooms:
nine
apartments.
You
got
27
bedrooms
to
me
very
likely
you
might
have
27
students
living
there,
27
students,
the
requirement,
so
arguably
they
might
have
27
cars.
Oh
it
looks
to
me
like
UT,
students
have
more
money
than
Gators,
but
arguably
maybe
okay,
so
you
might
have
27
cars.
You
know,
but
that
you're
down
to
the
city
requirement
is
20
cars,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
offering
12
parking
spaces
now
I
agree.
G
G
O
G
Well,
I'm,
just
I'm
just
saying
clearly
you
could
address
you
wouldn't
be
asking
for
the
first
parking
waiver
in
the
viewer.
If
you
just
lifted
that
building
up
one
more
story
and
parked
underneath
I
recognize,
there's
additional
expense,
fire
codes,
I'm
sure
and
all
sorts
of
things
like
that.
But
you
wouldn't
be
asking
for
a
part
correct.
B
K
Else
you
know
and
I'll
echo
some
of
those
comments.
I
the
the
parking
waiver
in
that
location.
You
know,
does
trouble
me
I.
Even
though
it's
gonna
be
student
houses,
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
students
there
who
have
their
own
vehicles
foreseeably,
and
you
know
it's
certainly
something
that
troubles
me.
Why
don't
you
build
a
law
firm
there?
We
don't
have
enough
lawyers
in
that
area,
I'm
just
I.
K
S
S
You
so
so
this
is
my
apartment.
Complex
I
got
a
text
from
the
owner
of
the
the
high
part
tea
cottage
and
she
was
in
panic
on
Friday.
So
I
met
her
on
Saturday.
She
had
a
heat
stroke
heat
stroke
on
Sunday.
She
could
make
it
so
I
told
her
I'd
attend
and
back
in
when
I
bought
the
complex
parking
wasn't
an
issue
they
built
Hyde
Park
townhomes
in
2001
it
became
an
issue
and
here's
the
Hyde
Park
tea
house.
These
are
these.
S
Two
houses
are
the
ones
that
are
no
longer
there
where
the
project
is
so
in
2008.
They
put
a
big
I,
think
4
unit
condo
complex
there
and
we
lost
more
parking
because
the
curb
cuts
are
so
wide.
So
it
became
even
a
bigger
problem
and
then
they
asked
me
to
paint
my
building
so
I
painted
it,
and
then
they
built
a
fence
right
here
where
my
dumpster
was
and
I
hadn't
moved
the
dumpster
back,
I
guess
passing
out
high-wage
into
these
guys
close
to
these
guys
parcels.
S
So
the
city
contacted
me
last
year
and
said:
you've
got
to
have
these.
We
put
them
in
the
front,
but
obviously
because
of
the
parking
problem,
they
couldn't
dump
those
trash
cans.
So
now
they're
in
the
back
against
these
guys
parcel,
which
is
a
problem
I,
don't
know
what
I'm
gonna
do
now
to
dump
the
trash
and
then
finally,
and
there
I
get
in
a
row.
Finally,
the
biggest
concerns
is
the
same
that
you
guys
addressed
as
you
drive
through
up
a
willow.
If
you
reduce
the
parking,
it's
gonna
be
a
big
problem.
S
This
is
the
alleyway.
Making.
These
reduce
parking
spaces
is
actually
where
those
trash
gathers
exactly
right
in
the
alleyway
I
didn't
put
them
there.
The
city
did
cuz
they've
nowhere
else
to
put
them,
because
when
they
put
it
in
front
of
my
building,
they
couldn't
pick
up
the
trash.
So
I
can
you
know
I
got
a
problem.
S
There
got
to
figure
out
myself
on
my
parcel,
but
I
really
am
concerned
about
about
all
the
traffic
flowing
through
this
behind
my
complex,
as
well
as
the
lack
of
part,
because
we're
tight
now
and
we're
18
we're
16
single
family
units
in
and
to
two
bedrooms,
I
suppose
one
bedrooms.
So
that's
my
biggest
concern.
Thank.
L
K
L
Is
right
here
and
I
just
want
to
reinforce
the
issue
regarding
parking
I
mean
I,
think
it's
absolutely
amazing
that
they
can't
meet
the
parking
for
five
units
and
they
want
nine
in
an
area
that
is
starved
for
parking.
This
is
I
mean
it's
incredible
to
me
and
if
they
want
to
pay
for
a
bonus
and
and
do
that,
this
property
right
here
has
an
office
building
and
they
bought
all
of
this.
L
This
is
a
view
looking
north
and
these
two
Lots
that
you
see
here.
This
is
all
additional
parking
that
Liguori
bought
for
supplemental
parking,
not
not
to
meet
the
code.
He
met
the
code
down
here
on
his
building.
So,
where
are
these
people
going
to
go
they're
going
across
the
street
they're
going
to
Liguria
slot,
or
they
going
over
here
to
the
gentleman's
lot
that
he
just
spoke
to
his
apartment,
complex,
which
is
here
or
they're,
going
to
go
down
here
to
the
law
office
or
to
this
this
property
here?
This
is.
L
This
is
just
a
amazing
request.
You
know-
and
you
know
that
I
show
up
before
you
and
I
asked
for
certain
waivers
for
restaurants
and
things
like
that.
This
is
residential.
This
is
very,
very
different.
Those
people
come
and
they
stay
so
we're
they
going
to
seek
to
park.
They
can't
park
on
either
side
of
willow
because
there's
no
parking.
This
is
a
heavy
traffic
area.
This
is
one
of
two
lots
that
then
Liguori
bought
for
her
parking
for
his
office
building
here.
L
This
was
a
this
photo
was
taken
at
about
2:30
in
the
afternoon.
It's
loaded
with
traffic.
What
were
you
going
to
go
the
same
with
this
one?
This
is
the
parking
lot
across
the
street
from
the
subject
property.
The
staff
found
it
inconsistent.
You
can't
make
a
nine
unit
complex,
consistent,
it's
it's
too
much
for
this
size
of
this
property.
They
can't
they're
removing
more
than
50%
of
the
green
space
there.
L
Anyway,
I
you
see
the
letter,
they
can't
meet
the
code.
They
need
to
go
back
to
square
one
or
deny
this
project.
It
simply
doesn't
it
doesn't
comply,
it's
not
compatible
the
surrounding
areas
and
it
isn't
it
it's
a
encroachment
and
it's
a
it's
a
violation
upon
or
putting
a
a
a
burden
on
all
of
the
other
surrounding
property
owners.
It
simply
doesn't
make
sense,
reducing
the
dial
wits
for
the
drive
Isles,
putting
angled
parking,
forcing
the
drive
viols
to
go
out
onto
the
alley.
Thank
you,
sir.
It's
not
a
good.
G
L
Sir
I've
been
certified
by
the
13th
Judicial
Circuit
Court,
as
an
expert
in
land
use
and
zoning
I've
been
practicing
land
use
and
Zoning
for
over
30
years.
On
my
own
and
before
that,
I
was
the
Zoning
Administrator
for
the
city
of
Tampa,
I
wrote
many
of
the
early
zoning
codes
first
PD's,
where
were
drafts,
that
I
wrote,
Mary,
Brian,
typed
them
and
David,
and
and
with
a
selecting
there
were
no.
There
were
no
computers.
We
did
this
simply
on
on
typewriters.
So.
K
C
And
you
have
no
financial
stake
in
the
petition.
That's
in
front
of
you
today
absolutely
and
what
you
hear
today.
You
can
still
make
a
decision
be
fair,
impartial
based
on
the
confidence,
substantial
evolute
lis.
So
thank
you
for
disclosing
that.
But
it's
my
professional
opinion
that
it
is
not
does
not
rise
to
level
of
conflict
in
you
require
the.
K
S
Good
evening,
James
R
Schaefer
I
own
in
occupy
the
building
across
from
mr.
Nagori
on
the
corner
of
120,
South
Willow,
so
I'm
on
the
corner
of
Cleveland
and
Willow,
there's
the
property
to
the
immediate
north.
To
me,
which
is
housing
and
I,
believe
to
my
understanding,
it
seems
like
UT
students,
it's
multi-family
and
then
the
two
lots,
and
then
we
have
the
alleyway
in
the
back.
The
alleyway
goes
to
nowhere
because
of
the
fire
station.
I
don't
want
to
rehash
what
it
seems,
like
you,
gentlemen,
already
know,
and
what
has
been
said.
S
But
I've
been
there
19
years
when
I
built
that
everyone
said
you're
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
Crosstown
kind
of
freaked
me
out,
because
I
was
really
young
then,
but
they
were
wrong,
but
I
experienced
a
lot
of
problems.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
parking.
I
have
six
spots
in
the
back
which
we
enter
through.
The
alleyway
I
have
two
plus
a
handicap
that
you
enter
willow.
I
have
persistent
problems
with
people
parking
and
I'll.
Preface
this
with
I
have
never
told
anyone
outside
of
business
hours.
That
is
not
my
intentions.
S
I
have
cameras
on
my
building,
I,
don't
sit
in
Temple
Terrace
and
try
to
tow
somebody.
I've
actually
told
people
encourage
them
to
do
that,
but
I've
had
people
taking
up
two
spots
at
11
a.m.
I
have
attorneys
that
can't
park
can't
work
and
I
believe
was
mr.
Angelo
and
I
sympathize
with
him,
but
that
alleyway
he's
lost
a
lot
of
parking,
there's
sanitation
issues
when
they
go
to
imp.
There
used
to
be
that
dumpster
and
I
figured
it
out
a
couple
months
ago.
S
They
lay
on
the
horn
because
there's
cars
flocking
and
they
can't
get
to
the
cans
and
or
the
dumpster,
so
I'm
all
for
development.
I
am
so
happy.
There's
going
to
be
something
there
instead
of
two
vacant
lots
but
I'm
just
personally
concerned
the
the
effect
it's
gonna
have
on
my
business
and
the
potential
parking
overflow.
Knowing
what
I've
seen
and
to
be
honest
with
you
only
primarily
in
the
last
five
to
six
years,
I've
never
had
to
have
toe
signs
up,
I
didn't
even
I,
didn't
even
know
the
law
on
it.
S
S
A
The
parking
waiver
does
concern
me
I
Drive,
to
this
area.
What
is
it
Cleveland
going
west
I
see
how
backed
up
Willow
has
used
it
to
the
Kennedy
light.
It's
a
it's.
It's
not
meant
for
heavy
traffic.
Historically
I
mean
that's
why
these
roads?
If
you
look
at
Boulevard,
it's
narrow,
if
you
look
at
Willow
its
narrow
before
the
crosstown,
this
was
a
lot
of
residential.
So
cramming
something
like
this
in
this
spot,
requesting
the
waivers
and
I
thought
about
it.
A
Ut
students,
I,
was
a
UT
student
for
a
year,
but
I
think
one
out
of
ten
of
us
had
a
car.
So
you
know
I
understand
that
not
everybody
on
the
car,
but
you
don't
know
that
the
thing
is
you're
accommodating,
so
many
students
what
if
all
those
students
have
cars?
What
if
half
of
those
students
have
cars?
Now
you
have
an
issue
because
you
don't
have
no
parking
they
can't
park
on
the
street.
You
have
an
issue
with
the
the
city
of
Tampa,
solid
waste.
A
Trying
to
trying
to
come
in
the
gentleman
mentioned
that
they
lay
on
the
horn.
I,
just
don't
see
an
easy,
an
easy
way
out
of
this
to
accommodate
it.
Where
you
know
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
from
a
land-use
perspective,
so
I
don't
think
I
will
be
supporting
this
Thank
You,
councilman,
goose,
I,
guess.
H
K
O
Very
much
appreciate
all
the
comments
and
understanding
them
again,
as
I
previously
stated,
coming
from
Gainesville
I
understand
parking
concerns
and
the
effect
that
they
can
have
on
surrounding
property
owners,
businesses,
etc.
You
know,
Gainesville
is
draconian
about
it.
Tamp
is
not
quite
the
same
mentality.
It's
it's
a
different
animal.
The
emergency
Tampa
does
have
commuter
parking
lots
or
these
kids,
you
know
if
they
so
choose,
could
park
their
car
for
weeks
months
on
end,
that's
something
to
do
with
our
Zoey,
that's
something
you
could
enforce
that.
O
K
D
S
R
D
G
Mr.
Malloy
I
don't
profess
to
be
a
psychic
training
but
I'm,
not
hearing
very
good
stuff
up
here
as
a
friendly
suggestion.
Perhaps
you
might
want
to
you
know,
ask
for
a
continuance
and
revisit
your
since
it
is
a
PD.
It's
not!
You
know.
You
have
opportunities
to
tweak
issues.
That
counsel
was
raised
and
coming.
B
L
O
Much
appreciate
that
and
I
will
take
that
to
heart,
given
the
testimony
given
and
the
apparent
mood
of
the
council
on
it,
we
would
ask
respectfully
for
a
continuance
to
perhaps
rethink
the
parking
situation,
see
if
we
can
come
back
with
something
a
bit
more
palatable
a
bit,
if
not
a
waiver
at
least
much
less
of
a
waiver.
At
this
point,
rather
than
cancelling
the
whole
thing,
let
us
redraw
the
plan
can
come
back
at.
K
C
O
Have
a
pretty
firm
back-up
plan
if
notice
is
appropriate
if
the
good
time
is
appropriate,
I
would
love
to
make
the
next
meeting
I'm,
not
sure
mister.
There
you
go.
C
P
Scenario:
Sam
Nia,
the
next
meeting
is
unappropriate.
The
next
meeting
is
September
26,
which
is
already
a
full
agenda.
October
agenda
is
full,
it
I
can't
say
I'm,
not
sure,
exactly
the
extent
of
the
changes
that
they're
proposing
to
make
this,
let
me
clarify
their
code
provisions
in
the
procedural
section
that
says,
based
on
the
amount
of
changes,
how
far
back
into
the
review
process
they
have
to
go.
If
they
are
proposing
the
small
changes,
then
we
could
maybe
do
it
with
a
45-day
review.
D
If
you
potential
change,
40%
reduction
on
parking
in
that
area
is
a
lot
and
I.
Don't
know
what
the
people
around
there.
You
know
I'm
not
too
much
keen
on
rel
properties
that
you
say
I'm
one
of
the
rent
somebody
else's
locked,
because
that
lot
of
developed
then
you're
back
to
square
one
and
they
got
what
they
want
and
now
and
I'm,
not
talking
speaking
about
your
case
in
general.
D
I
K
P
Marry
Samaniego,
typically,
you
can't
and
again
miss
more.
You
can
speak
to
this
if
I
say
anything
incorrect,
but
typically
you
can't
put
a
condition
on
the
plan.
To
Vemma
is
something
that
the
city
can
enforce
so
I,
don't
know.
It's
necessarily
that
the
city
code
enforcement
department
would
be
able
to
check
leases,
and
you
know
either
whether
or
not
they're
enrolled
in
a
school
program.
K
O
C
K
C
H
K
B
K
I
C
It's
not
a
statutory
requirement,
it's
not
in
the
code
and
B.
What
we
normally
do
is
notice
usually
requires
at
least
a
long
period
of
time
out.
It
also
requires
an
expense
to
the
petitioner,
and
it
is
a
devolved
process
and
also
in
court
requires
the
filing
of
an
affidavit
and
proof
to
the
city
clerk.
It's
a
very
involved
process.
So
what
we
do
counsel,
it's
a
very
good
question.
K
P
J
J
West
Columbus
Drive,
which
is
a
designated
transit
emphasis
order
on
to
the
aerial.
This
is
the
subject
site
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Columbus
and
MacDill.
This
is
the
yes.
This
is
the
Waffle
House
you
can
see
it's
mostly.
This
is
a
commercial
note
directly
to
the
north
is
single-family
detached
residential
on
to
the
future
land
use
map
the
subject
site
and
all
these
parcels
that
miss
pink
are
the
community
mixed-use
35
future
land
use
it's
more
intense
on
the
south
side
of
Columbus
in
this
community.
J
J
As
you
know,
this
was
originally
developed
as
a
bank.
It
was
approved
a
couple
years
back
for
medical
office.
They
want
to
go
back
to
the
bank,
it
would
not.
It
would
be
comparable
incompatible
they're
using
the
existing
building
so
based
on
that
Planning
Commission
staff
recommends
that
this
be
found
consistent
with
the
Tampa
Comprehensive
Plan.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
P
Mary
78
located
design
and
development
coordination.
Again.
This
is
a
request
from
plan
development
to
plan
development.
Here
is
the
center
property
her
the
staff
report
I've
outlined
it.
This
was
approved
as
a
PD
in
2004
zo0
444
for
a
banquet
drive-in,
but
allowing
all
CG
uses
then
last
year
for
our
easy
1810.
They
wanted
to
convert
the
building
and
add
on
to
it
for
a
business,
professional
office
and
medical
office.
P
P
There
are
no
waivers
required
or
being
requested.
There
are
changes
for
planning
and
development,
just
some
minor
notations
needed
to
the
site
plan.
So
if
you
do
approve
this,
please
wear
provision
sheet
and
the
developer
very
compliant
staff
did
buy
this
consistent
with
the
city
of
temple
and
development
ordinance.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
me
at
this
time?
Any.
N
E
L
A
K
I
K
A
K
K
G
Thank
you
good
catch.
In
regard
to
our
easy
1907,
D
I'll
move
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
three
zero
one.
Five
West
Columbus
trod
for
a
first
reading,
consideration
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classifications,
PD
plan
development
and
medical
office,
business
professional
office,
PD
plan
development
bank
with
drivin
provide
an
effective
date
and
specifically
that
the
petitioner
has
met
its
burden
of
proof
providing
confidential
evidence
that
the
development
has
conditioned
and
sewn
on.
G
K
P
K
K
Unfortunately,
wasn't
here
for
the
commendation
that
occurred,
but
you
know
you
do
a
great
job
and
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
you
for
about
two
and
a
half
years,
or
so,
and
you're
a
real
top-notch,
professional
and
just
being
an
attorney
I
know
the
kind
of
pressure
that
you're
under
and
and
you
you
wear
it
well
to
quote
Rod
Stewart
now.
So
thank
you.
B
F
G
It's
sort
of
relevant
to
you
in
your
world,
Kathy's,
world,
etc.
This
issue
of
bonus
density
had
comes
back
up
periodically
and
I'm,
not
completely
convinced
that
it's
a
great
provision,
that's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
so
I'd
like
to
request
to
respectfully
request
the
staff
report
in
a
November
meeting
mr.
Shelby
to
to
start
the
discussion
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
bonus
density
provisions.
G
E
Were
a
legal
department
if
I
may
make
a
suggestion,
sir
I
believe
that
that
may
come
up
during
a
workshop
for
January
30th
I
think
that
that
dovetails
excellently
with
a
motion
that
councilman
Goodes
has
as
well.
So
if
I
may
make
that
suggestion
to
incorporate
that
into
that
workshop,
that
would
be
an
appropriate
time
to
potentially
discuss
those
issues.
What.
E
Would
put
them
it
would
be
after
the
January
15th
cutoff
for
the
January
cycle,
so
it
would
be
looking
at
July,
but
it
may
be
an
involved
discussion.
I
know
that
each
time
that
this
has
come
up,
there's
been
a
lot
to
talk
about
so
I
I.
Don't
imagine
this
will
be
one
where
we
you
know,
or
my
successor
will,
throw
it
together
code
language
over
the
course
of
a
weekend.
It'll
probably
be
a
fairly
involved
discussion.
I
would
imagine
I'll.
G
Tell
you
what
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
start
that
discussion
in
November
just
through
a
staff?
Maybe
it
can
be
minimal
and
we
can
start
discussing
the
pros
and
cons
and
then,
if
we
need
to
carry
it
over
until
January,
then
we
know
that
that's
happening.
But
you
know
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
make
that
January
cycle,
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
do
something.
C
K
P
G
P
H
I
think
it
ties
into
the
workshop
injera.
That's
why
I
pushed
the
workshop
back,
so
legal
and
staff
can
have
time
to
bring
us
good
information
of
not
what
we
can't
do,
but
what
we
can
do
to
move
things
along,
because
that
I've
already
had
a
discussion
just
yesterday
before
mr.
miss
Christian
is
leaving
and
reference
to
a
community
business
builders.
That's
agreement,
and
these
keep
coming
up.
H
K
H
I
have
two
motions
for
this
evening.
One
motion
to
give
accommodation
was
le
baguette
founder
of
the
ladies
of
the
heights
associate
dean
for
a
hygiene
drive
initiative
in
which
she
has
donated
more
than
four
thousand
hygiene
products
to
19
different
schools
across
the
Hillsborough
County
on
nine
nineteen,
twenty
eighteen
and.
K
H
K
H
K
And
all
and
I'll
tell
you
what
I'll
do
this
I'm
going
to
talk
about
something
afterwards,
because
we
have
to
start
limiting
the
number
of
commendations
and
other
things
that
we
do
per
meeting,
but
but
darn
it
I'll
talk
about
it
at
the
end.
So
we
have
a
motion
by
Councilman
Goods,
a
second
by
Councilman
Citro,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
and,
and
those
were
the
only
two
other
ones.
That
date
correct.
That's
correct,
mr.
Craig
right,
that's
the
only
they
were
both
and
they're,
both
mine.
Yes,.
B
H
K
H
H
I
also
had
to
make
a
motion
to
give
a
comedy
to
Reverend
Oscar
Johnson
jr.,
passed
away,
posthumously,
posthumously,
retire
and
long
time
passing
served
as
a
member
of
the
County
School
District
for
35
years.
The
combinational
presented
to
his
family
other
services
today
determine
which
will
probably
be
either
the
wake
on
this.
H
K
D
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
our
city
of
Tampa
legal
staff
for
keeping
a
secret
to
the
combination
that
was
given
to
miss
Mora
today.
Thank
you
very
much.
You
did
a
great
job
on
not
letting
Miss
Moore
enough.
In
that
case,
what
I
have
to
ask
for
is
move
the
miss
Kristen
Mora,
get
a
commendation
on
her
wonderful
three
years
of
exemplary
service
with
the
legal
staff,
the
city
of
Tampa.
We.
D
K
D
K
K
K
F
I
think
at
the
last
meeting,
I
asked
I
asked
for
a
motion
to
to
contact
the
Planning
Commission
about
doing
neighborhood
commercial
district
plans,
and
then
they
responded
I
think
they
CC
to
all
of
you
all
and
then
I
worked
with
them
over
the
last
24
hours
or
so
to
come
up
with
a
motion.
So
what
what
their
their
new
proposal
is?
Instead
of
giving
grant
money,
what
they
would
do
is
pro-bono.
F
Do
a
community
plan
or
neighborhood
plan
around
these
areas,
and
and
that
means
because
it's
pro
bono
and
they
would
bring
in
other
agencies-
it
would
be
worth
a
lot
more
than
the
ten
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
that
we
were
proposing.
This
is
the
thing
that
that
I
wanted
to
do
because
I
wanted
to
get
the
area
around
MacDill
in
beta
Bay
planned.
F
There
was
a
conflict
over
the
over
the
beta
Bay
plan
a
few
months
ago,
and
this
neighborhood
badly
wants
to
be
planned,
but,
as
I
was
doing
it
I
I
requested
that
we
get
at
least
one
in
each
district,
so
that
we
could
do
this
as
a
beta
test.
And
if
we
get
more
money
than
maybe
we
could
do
130
neighbor
commercial
districts
throughout
the
city
anyway.
What
they?
F
What
they
come
back
and
propose,
is
that
we
would
request
one
per
year
for
the
next
four
years
and
we
have
to
decide
which
district
and
in
which
area
within
a
district.
We
don't
have
to
do
it
right
now,
but
I
would
ask
you
all
when
they
come
back.
If
we
could
do
that
area
in
South,
Tampa
first
and
then,
if
we
end
up
with
that
all
for
transportation
plan
money,
then
we
won't
need
any
of
this
in
the
future.
F
Maybe,
but
we
could
do
one
per
year
anyway,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
request
that
the
Planning
Commission
work
collaboratively
with
the
city
of
Tampa
staff
for
the
purpose
of
developing
an
approach
toward
the
establishment
of
neighborhood
commercial
district
plans.
This
approach
would
be
brought
to
Council
for
consideration
with
the
goal
of
the
Planning
Commission
city
staff
and
potential
assistants
of
partner
agencies
to
develop
a
district
plan
in
each
council
district
each
year
over
the
next
four
years.
In
order
in
an
order
to
be
determined
by
council
target.
F
With
the
the
budget
that
we
approved
last
week,
with
the
pipes
being
put
in
they,
there
were
neighborhoods,
especially
history,
historic
Hyde,
Park
that
have
brick
streets
or
that
have
brick
underneath
asphalt
and
they're
very
concerned
about
what
will
happen
to
the
bricks.
They
don't
want
the
bricks
to
be
ripped
up
and
thrown
away.
G
C
K
F
K
K
K
Just
very
briefly,
gentlemen,
with
with
and
thank
you
and
I'm,
not
making
any
motions
with
regards
to
especially
day
and
morning
meetings,
I'm
gonna
be
putting
forth
what
I
call
I
don't
want
to
call
them
the
10
commandments,
they're
gonna
be
more
than
10
strong
suggestions,
there's
probably
not
gonna
be
10,
but
just
dealing
with
a
couple
of
issues
and
look
I
wanna
I
want
to
state
this
before
I
was
chair
in
my
first
two
and
a
half
years
on
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
I
was
often
with
me
and
Councilman
Redick.
K
There
was
always
a
running
joke
with
regards
to
commendation,
so
trust
me
I
get
that
110
percent,
but
in
a
couple
of
issues
such
as,
for
example,
public
comment,
you
know
if
you
actually
take
a
look
at
our
rules:
410th
the
City
Council.
They
actually
preclude
100%.
Essentially,
a
council
interaction
with
the
publisher
in
the
public
comment.
I,
never
enforced.
That,
because
I
know
we
like
to
talk
to
the
public,
but
there's
a
saying
that
I
don't
know
if
I
made
it
maybe
I
did.
But
it's
you
can't
change
people,
but
you
contain
their
excesses.
K
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
just
take
some
of
the
excesses
because,
for
example,
public
comment
often
becomes
a
Town
Hall
and
essentially
we're
trying
to
run
meetings
here
where
people
are
waiting
for
hearings,
land-use
development
hearings,
a
rezoning
hearings,
etc,
etc,
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
engaging
the
public.
But
there's
gotta
be
some
modest
limitations
on
that.
K
I
think
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
hearings
on
issues
such
as
speaking
staff
reports,
you'll
notice
that
I'm
checking
on
how
many
staff
reports
having
eight
or
nine
staff
reports
at
the
end
again,
something
that
takes
us
to
a
long
time
and
then
commendations
and
again
I
want
to
emphasize
September
19th,
there's
two
commendations
on
there,
they're,
both
mine.
So
you
know
I'm
I'm,
not
throwing
the
stones
here
in
a
glass
house
I'm
trying
to
create
a
better
house
here.
K
G
Discussions
and
again,
this
relates
also
to
the
not
showing
up,
but
he
and
he's
clearly
indicated
that
they
would
be
thrilled
if
we
gave
them
a
concert.
Yes,
you
know
in
the
neighborhood
of
like
you
know,
10
or
10:30,
whatever
is
reasonable,
and
then
that
way
they
know
when
to
be
here.
Chances
are
they'll
be
in
and
out
within
at
least
an
hour.
B
K
And
I
agree
a
hundred
percent
without
we're
all
working
on
that,
but
with
regards
than
the
number
of
items
again,
they
don't
want
the
public.
They
have
to
sit
there
for
during
that
for
an
extra
hour
and
a
half
or
something
at
a
reasonable
time.
So
I
think
by
reasonably
limiting
the
number
of
staff
reports
now
don't
mean
anything
for
coney
until
like
two
or
three
you
know
may
be
looking
at
five.
So.
K
Yeah
yeah
and
that
actually
we
can't
prevent
so
long
as
the
proper
protocols
are
followed,
etc,
but
again
looking
just
attained
the
excesses
so
that
we
don't
have
folks
that
are
here
for
up
you
know,
ten,
thirty
or
whatever.
Here
Luke
was
forward
or
one
you
know,
attorneys
who
are
building
clients,
etc.
Again,
just
to
you
know,
trim
the
fat
so
to
speak,
so
I'll
be
putting
forth
some
proposed
changes
and
we
can
talk
about
them,
have
a
dialogue
and
then
we
can
even
have
a
meeting
since
it's
procedure
and
not
substance,
correct.
C
K
And
in
one
thing,
for
example,
again,
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
rules,
are
very
conservative.
For
example,
commendations
there
only
be
given
during
workshops,
I,
don't
follow
that
I
mean
McVerry,
Bryant
ones
show
commendations
are
pretty
much
all
we
got.
You
know
what
I
mean
to
express
our
values
in
the
community,
etc.
So
I'm,
a
big
proponent
of
them,
so
I'm
just
looking
for
I
guess.
Additional
reasonable
restrictions
within
the
excess
counseling
includes
I.
H
Was
gonna
say
about
commendations
I?
What
that
limit
may
be,
or
are
certain
days,
you're
gonna
say
a
workshop
day,
then
that's
the
day.
We
do
all
combination
whatever,
but
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
say
we're
just
gonna
limit
it
to
one
or
two.
You
know
if
you've
got
a
hold
council
of
seven
people,
so
I
mean
it's
be
mindful
of
that
as
well.
We
got
a
Council
of
seven.
Everybody
has
a
foundation.
H
Lichter
and
I
sit
there
like
a
bump
on
a
log
and
just
do
nothing.
I
say
nothing.
I!
Think
that's
wrong
is
irresponsible
and
I.
Just
can't
see
myself.
The
person
I
am
not
to
engage
what
a
person
when
I
know
something
is
wrong
and
they're
taking
in
a
heart
their
time
to
come
down
here
just
for
the
concern
because
they
haven't
being
heard
so
I
trade
caution
was
to
look
at
that
and
I.
Think
for
me,
that's
a
real,
serious
and.
K
Actually
I
agree
with
you
100%,
which
is
why
I'm
not
precluding
I
wouldn't
even
propose
enforcing
the
the
hundred
percent.
Should
there
are
moments
I
mean
I.
That's
why
I
wouldn't
do
that,
because
I
I
I
would
fall
victim
to
that.
But
again
it's
there
are
certain
things
that
can
be
handled
outside
of
counsel.
There
are
certain
things
that
can
be
handled
with
you
give
my
a
to
call
it
cetera
and
there's
certain
things
where
it's
like:
hey,
listen,
I
want
to
talk
right
now
right
here.
K
G
You
know,
when
possible,
I,
think
presentations
from
outside
agencies
who
come
in
to
tell
us
about
whatever
they're
doing
again.
Should
you
know
we
should
give
them
guidance
as
to
what
the
expected
time
is
five
to
ten
minutes
and
and
also
and
Steve
I'm
glad
you're
here
on
the
blank
of
the
month.
Okay,
those
get
a
little
long
and
you
know
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
and
part
of
that
is
the
gift.
G
The
gift
thing
is
I've
just
gone
crazy
since
I
left
eight
years
ago,
which
is
it's
wonderful
for
the
people,
but
it
does
take
a
lot
of
time
and
it
sometimes
it
feels
like
an
advertisement.
So
maybe
we
can.
You
can
talk
to
Steve,
you
know
and
say:
maybe
we
can
limit
the
gifts
to
five
gifts,
a
high
person
or
something
that
and
again
I'm
just
talking
about
expediency
at
the
time,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
competing
stuff
going
on
before
we
even
get
to
the
meat
of
our
agenda.
G
K
And
with
regards
to
the
fire
fiber
police
officers,
soon
ATU
Employee
of
the
Month
or
the
court
or
whatever
it
may
be,
you
know
I
personally,
I,
don't
think
the
gifts
are
the
major
contributing
cause
of
things.
That's
just
my
opinion,
but
obviously,
if
there
is
somebody
up
there
taking
excessive
amount
of
time,
that
is
certainly
something
some
be
done,
but
I
know,
for
example,
or
not.
The
first
week
of
October
councilman
goos
will
be
presenting
our
first
ATU
member
of
the
month.
We're
very
excited.
F
The
dialogue
is
really
important.
I
think
you
all
are
saying
that
what
I
would
rather
do
is
limit
the
number
of
items
instead
of
limiting
the
dialogue,
because
I
think
it's
fair.
If,
if
we
don't,
if
we
have
too
many
items
between
now
and
November
7,
then
I
have
to
put
an
event
on
no
discussion
on
November
7th
and
it.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
address
more
issues,
but
it's
better
to
have
the
dialogue
on
the
others.
The
other
thing
like
I,
said
this
morning.
F
There
are
some
issues
that
not
because
it's
not
because
we're
new,
but
because
I
think
we
we
are.
We
believe
that
some
of
the
processes
should
be
changed
and
they
and
it
looks
like
the
mayor
and
stand
and
to
you
a
staff
and
others
think
the
processes
should
be
changed,
as
those
processes
are
changing.
It's
taking
more
time
to
discuss
things
as
the
process
once
the
processes
are
changed
in
the
next
few
months.
I
think
things
will
move
a
lot
faster
too
sure.
K
And
and
again,
I
want
to
make
clear
with
this
I'm
not
pointing
the
finger
at
anybody,
because,
if
you'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
the
two
commendations,
we
have
next
week,
both
mine
so
again,
there's
no
finger-pointing
go
one.
That's
thank
you,
sir
sister.
Well,
y'all
I
appreciate
hundred
percent,
like
I
said,
were
with
friends.
We
have
a
motion
by
Councilman
Maniscalco,
a
second
by
Councilman
central
all
in
favor.
Any
opposed.
Thank
you
are
you
answer.