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A
Hear
hear,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay
may
I
have
a
motion
to
open
the
public
hearing.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Councilman
morena,
the
second
by
Councilman
Goodes,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
okay
to
our
highly
esteemed
finance,
chair,
councilman
Miranda.
If
you
could,
please
do
the
reading
of
the
second
public
hearing
statements
Sarika.
Mr.
chairman.
B
This
is
the
second
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa,
visible
year,
2020
budget,
the
proposed
millage
rate
of
six
point:
two,
oh
seven,
six
mil,
which
is
six
point:
six,
nine
more
than
the
rollback
millage
of
five
point:
eight
one,
eight
one
Mills
property
taxes.
Funds
are
used
to
support
the
general
fund
operating
the
budget
of
the
city.
This
fund
includes
the
such
apartments
as
Fire
Rescue,
Police,
Human,
Resources,
Parks
and
Recreation.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
First,
we're
going
to
begin
with
the
administration
presentation
and
thereafter
the
citizen
budget
advisory
presentation
since
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
questions
are
very
likely
going
to
be
running.
Concurrent
will
bathe,
wait
until
both
presentations
are
done
for
questions,
so
if
the
administration,
we
should
go
forward,
you
may
and
then,
after
initial
questions,
we'll
move
to
public
comment.
C
Good
evening,
chairman
good
evening,
council
community,
my
name
is
john
bennett,
chief
of
staff
city
of
tampa.
Normally
I
go
off
the
cuff
and
from
the
heart,
which
is
the
way
I
like
it
with
an
eye
to
have
a
few
prepared
comments.
They'll
be
brief,
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
ask
our
chief
financial
officer
dennis
or
herro,
and
our
city
attorney
in
support
south
korea
to
come
up
and
give
some
specifics
about
tonight's
agenda.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
As
you
well
know,
we're
gathered
here
tonight
for
the
second
public
hearing
of
the
2020
fiscal
year,
budget
for
the
city
of
Tampa,
but
first,
how
about
a
little
context
before
we
get
started
mayor,
jane,
caster's,
stood
here
a
short
thirty
two
business
days
ago
and
presented
to
the
community
through
the
leadership
of
this
city
council,
a
balanced
and
responsible
budget.
This
serves
our
near
400,000
citizens
as
well
as
those
beyond
living,
come
here
for
work,
education
and
play
each
and
every
day.
C
It
was
only
double
that
time
or
64
short
business
days
prior
to
that
budget
presentation
that
all
of
you
were
sworn
in
on
May
1st
to
this
next
chapter
of
Tampa's
bright
future.
The
mayor
also
reminded
all
of
us
that
Tampa
will
most
likely
undergo
more
change
over
the
next
decade
than
it
has
in
previous
decades,
which
is
no
surprise
between
our
vibrant
and
diversified
communities.
C
So
what
has
happened
relevant
to
the
budget
process
and
what
our
collective
responsibility
this
evening
as
a
council
and
administration,
and
most
of
all
a
community
involves.
First,
we
need
to
recognize
that
the
budget
is
a
plan
and
while
a
plan
must
have
focus
and
flexibility
to
adapt
to
strategic
change,
it
also
must
have
resiliency
towards
economic
risk
and
those
risk
factors
to
protect
our
ultimate
Trust,
which
is
our
citizens
to
signify
this
point.
C
Lastly,
within
the
realm
of
flexibility
of
the
administration,
acted
upon
motions
made
by
you
as
City
Council
in
the
first
budget
hearing
tonight.
Our
CFO
will
outline
the
requested
budget
amendments
to
the
first
line-item
of
$180,000
towards
the
nonprofit
community
to
support
enhanced
messaging
toward
the
city's
mission
of
increasing
and
improving
the
quality
of
life
by
example.
We
expect
to
hear
some
deliverable
concepts
from
both
the
TBA
II,
as
well
as
the
cultural
assets
Commission
for
the
intended
use
of
some
of
these
dollars
to
better
serve.
Our
community.
C
Third,
albeit
not
necessarily
a
motion,
but
a
request
that
the
administration
within
the
balanced
budget
will
be
funding
an
increased
level
of
EMS
service
based
out
of
station
16,
while
the
administration
works
with
our
Fire
Rescue
chief
toward
their
strategic
plan
of
ensuring
comprehensive
public
safety
deliverables
over
this
in
subsequent
fiscal
years.
So
as
I
wrap
up,
we
are
all
at
harder
work
during
this
compressed
planning
period
for
FY
2020.
C
Please
keep
in
mind
that
a
good
plan
can
be
agile
while
still
being
effective,
efficient
and
equitable,
as
I
turn
the
podium
over
to
our
legal
department
and
then
our
CFO.
For
some
brief
housekeeping
and
technicalities
of
what
I
mentioned,
the
community
looks
forward
towards
your
support
of
the
city's
plan
through
the
FY
2020
budget.
Thank
you.
D
My
name
so
let's
read
illegal
Department,
just
want
to
mention
to
you
that
you,
since
all
the
changes
you
requested,
have
been
made.
There
are
no
impediments
that
you
continue
in
tonight
on
your
second
public
hearing,
you're
free
to
go
forward
based
on
what
has
been
already
been
told
to
you.
So
that's
all
I
already
had
to
tell
procedurally
your
okay
to
move
forward
on
the
second
hearing
and
the
second
budget
meeting
tonight.
That's
all
I
really
had
to
say.
E
Good
evening,
council
Dennis
for
Harrow
interim
chief
financial
officer
just
to
expand
on
a
couple
of
the
things
chief
of
staff,
said
resuming
we
go
forward
tonight
with
the
changes
that
the
chief
of
staff
referenced.
We
will
bring
you
appropriate
amending
budget
resolutions
in
your
first
City
Council
meeting
in
October.
These
will
include
a
appropriation
from
the
community
investment
tax
for
both
the
asset
associated
with
expanded
EMS
service
in
Tampa,
East
Tampa,
and
an
appropriation
from
the
community
investment
tax
for
a
cultural
center
in
East
Tampa.
E
As
again,
we
look
forward
to
the
results
of
the
master
plan
for
Parks
and
Recreation
I,
understand
and
remember.
There
was
talk
about
a
and
another
source
of
funding
and
CRA
and
an
equal
amount
for
that.
I,
don't
believe.
A
motion
was
made
at
the
CRA
Board,
so
that
is
still
in
play
to
the
best
of
my
understanding.
That'll
be
the
expanded
EMS
service
in
East
Tampa,
the
cultural
center
in
East
Tampa,
and
then,
of
course,
as
you
heard,
the
chief
of
staff,
the
TB
AE,
because
that
is
an
incremental
payout
throughout
the
fiscal
year.
E
A
B
May
I
asked
that
he
introduced
the
member
yes,
the
city
advisory
or
here
with
the
chair
today,
and
the
Chairman
Steven
Lydell
and
whoever's
here,
I
like
to
recognize
them
and
also
at
this
time
like
to
take
the
opportunity
chairman
thank
Verena,
hard
to
work
for
doing
all
the
hard
work
and
the
technical
assistance
that
was
needed
for
the
city
budget
city,
advisory,
Budget
Committee
to
end
the
year.
She
is
leave
aid
to
yes,
sir
Wilson.
F
Council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
before
you
tonight.
We
do
have
a
presentation
at
our
point
here
that
will
help
guide
you
through
the
conversation
that
we're
gonna
have
tonight
and
echoing
with
Councilman
Miranda
said
we
do
have
a
couple
of
member
members
here,
Vibha
as
well
as
Craig
and
wonderful,
to
have
their
support
and
very
thankful
for
them
to
be
here.
F
The
way
that
this
committee
works
is
obviously
each
of
you
appoint
a
committee
member
and
then
we
have
very
robust
conversations
with
the
department
directors
throughout
the
year
this
year
being
a
little
bit
of
an
anomaly
given
the
elections
and
expedited
time
frame
that
we
had
to
move
forward
with.
But
as
you
can
see,
we
have
different
members,
who've
served
in
different
capacities.
We
have
four
who
are
brand
new
and
thank
you
both
for
my
two
peers
for
being
here
that
are
new
and
learning
more
and
being
very
active
within
the
committee.
F
We
also
have
Joe,
who
is
appointed
by
Councilman
vera
and
count
missy
Martin,
who
is
appointed
by
Councilman
Maniscalco,
who
have
some
tenure
on
the
committee
as
well.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
the
committee
chair
for
four
years
and
I
think
this
year
will
be
my
last
as
we
allow
some
fresh
blood
to
get
in
and
see
what
can
happen.
I'll
still
serve
on
the
committee,
but
I
want
to
see
what
else
the
other
opportunities
exist
we
do
are.
F
We
do
have
support
from
both
Mike
Perry
as
well
as
Lorena,
who
have
been
absolutely
tremendous
assets
to
us
throughout
this
process,
helping
us
to
understand
the
budgeting
process
and
ask
the
right
questions
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
things
that
we
need.
We
did
visit
with
quite
a
few
departments.
You
can
see
those
listed
above
I
think
there's
a
couple
that
we
did
miss
HR
being
one
of
them
and
I
believe
fire,
because
we
did
have
an
expedited
timeline
when
we
only
had
about
60
days
to
meet
with
every
department.
F
It
makes
it
very
difficult,
especially
when,
when
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
committee
members
are
there
and
present
and
have
a
voice
within
the
decision-making
process
in
the
past,
the
citizens
budget,
Advisory
Committee,
has
made
recommendations
that
have
been
successful,
and
so
here
you'll
see
city
fleet
and
apprentices
in
15
fiscal
year.
Some
of
those
were
repeated
in
16
we've
seen
Parks
and
Recreation
maintenance.
Up
there.
Many
times
we've
seen
storm
water,
which
we
saw
changes
to
that.
F
When
I
first
joined,
we
were
giving
a
litany
of
options
for
you
guys
in
terms
of
where
we
wanted
you
to
allocate
money
and
I
kind
of
compare
that
to
when
you
have
a
child
and
I'm,
thankfully
I'm
a
dad
of
a
10
month
old
and
she
doesn't
do
chores
yet.
But
when
she
does,
you
give
her
tours,
you
give
her
a
list
of
10
or
15.
You
come
home
two
or
three
done
and
they're,
probably
the
easiest
ones.
F
We
determined
that
we
needed
to
really
kind
of
evolve
our
committee
to
not
only
prioritize
what
actually
needs
to
be
done,
but
also
to
consider
where
we
find
revenues.
Revenue
excuse
me
increased
revenue
as
well
as
cost
savings,
and
so
some
of
these,
as
we've
gone
through
the
years
with
the
parking
audit
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
fees
with
the
the
the
health
clinic
you'll,
see
that
some
of
them
are
a
spin,
but
some
of
them
are
on
cost
savings
as
well.
F
These
are
some
of
the
successful
recommendations
we've
made
on
the
apprenticeships
program
happened
in
16
and
17,
we're
very
estatic
to
see
the
North
Tampa
health
clinic
on
the
fiscal
year
plan
for
this
year,
parking
rate
studies
underway.
Obviously
you
guys
know
about
the
master
plans,
and
so
that's
all
been
a
part
of
this.
Our
recommendations
are
broken
down
into
allocations,
revenues
and
savings,
and
also
a
future
planning,
and
future
planning
was
something
that
we
added
last
year.
Drainer
transitional
cal,
because
we
knew
there
wouldn't
be
a
whole
lot
that
we
could
influence.
F
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
considered
that
year-over-year
as
well.
So
we
knew
the
impact
and
we
were
doing,
we
were
making
responsible
decision
making
as
it
relates
to
our
budget.
So
our
first
recommendation
this
year
is
regards
to
city,
employee
population
and
with
over
4,500
employees,
we
have
a
lot
of
internal
and
external
customers.
F
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
meet
the
level
of
service,
whether
it's
fire
or
police,
whether
it's
wastewater,
whether
it's
solid
waste
code
enforcement
or
even
HR,
and
last
year
you
saw
us
come
up
here
and
speak
pretty
significantly
about
HR,
as
it
relates
to
overtime,
cost,
contracted
services,
so
overtime,
overtime,
cost
overtime,
cost
contracted
services
similar
to
man,
con
and
fleet
contractor
cost,
which
credit
goes
to
very
timely,
showing
up
mr.
ding
filter
for
asking
questions
about
HR.
F
Last
time
when
we
had
the
hearing,
because
he
talked
about
the
contracting
cost
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
recent
RFP
for
contractors,
and
so
we
look
at
those
and
last
year
we
thought
some
of
those
rates
might
be
a
little
high
for
what
we're
paying
for
contractors,
and
so
our
recommendation
is
that
we
do
propose
a
workforce
planning
on
it
to
identify
headcount
needs
by
Department
the
overtime
cost
and
contract
employee
costs
and
contract
services
costs.
The
reason
for
this
being
is
in
addition
to
what
we've
seen
last
year.
F
What
does
it
look
like
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
fill
those
positions
and
prevent
overtime,
cost,
and
so
we'd
like
to
see
some
kind
of
audit
there
or
Workforce
Planning
to
make
sure
that
we're
decreasing,
total
overall
cost
and
creating
metrics
that
create
responsibilities
in
that
manner?
Attention
should
be
paid
honestly
with
those
contractors
and
contract
costs.
We
don't,
we
don't
incur
the
pension
or
the
health
care
costs
so
that
some
attention
should
be
paid
to
that.
F
And
although
we
can't
provide
those
numbers
up
here
today,
I
think
that
we
believe
that
there's
there's
immediate
financial
impact
to
the
city,
that
we
should
be
check
out
and
explore
the
opportunity
for
a
Health
Trust
for
Tampa
Fire,
Rescue
or
a
tampa
police
department.
The
reason
for
this
being
is,
if
you
look
at
the
graphic
below
which
comes
straight
from
the
budget
presentation
in
nine
years,
we've
actually
increased
twenty
million
dollars
in
our
healthcare
costs
alone
and
I
know
that
that's
reflective
of
what's
going
on
nationally.
F
But
I
think
the
number
is
three
percent
of
the
numbers
that
are
used
on
the
p-card.
And
we
look
at
that
and
we
see
those
small
dollar
purchases
equate
to
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
And
so
our
recommendation
is
that
the
city
expand
the
current
peak,
our
program
to
incur
to
include
larger
purchase
limits
and
potentially
the
ability
to
pay
for
capital
improvement
project
costs
using
the
p-card
when
we
sat
down
with
the
purchasing
department,
I
think
initially,
we
heard.
F
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
future
planning
and
making
sure
that
we're
reflecting
responsible
decision-making
within
the
budget
and,
while
all
of
our
committee
members
agree
that,
at
least
to
my
knowledge,
we
were
unanimous
in
the
fact
that
we
believe
that
police
body
cameras
are
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
assure
accountability
with
citizen
interaction
with
law
enforcement.
We
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
long
term
commitment
and
future
funding
sources
for
body
cams.
F
When
we
look
at
the
budget,
there's
a
million
dollar
donation
this
year,
which
is
going
to
help
out
a
little
bit
to
alleviate
the
cost,
but
the
initially
anticipated
cost
for
officer
for
the
hardware
is
about
five
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
the
additional
headcount
needed
for
body
camera.
Analyst
alone
is
two
hundred
forty
five
thousand
dollars
and
they
have
1.3
million
in
annual
cost
for
data
storage.
One
of
our
committee
members
recommended
recommended
whether
there's
an
opportunity
to
have
that
data
storage
with
the
city
versus
paying
a
million
dollar
annual
cost.
F
F
Is
we
all
know
that
the
city
of
Tampa
is
growing
in
downtown
is
growing
in
an
exponential
rate,
1.5
million
by
2021
in
terms
of
the
square
footage
that
will
be
completed
for
Water
Street
32%
growth
in
downtown
residential
units
in
the
last
two
years,
18
new
buildings,
4,000
residential
units?
That's
just
amazing
numbers,
and
it
shows
what
we've
done
with
our
city
and
that
growth
is
also
happening
across
the
city.
F
Our
focus
right
here
is
really
about
the
impact
on
Tampa
Fire
Rescue,
giving
the
amount
of
square
footage
that's
going
to
be
added
to
downtown.
But,
as
we've
heard
in
previous
presentations
with
Councilman
Goods,
it
seems
there
are
needs
for
the
other
parts
of
down
the
other
parts
of
the
city,
whether
it's
East
HAMP
or
whether
it's
Busch
Gardens.
And
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
future
planning
allows
the
city
maintain
a
superior
level
of.
F
F
Finally,
this
is
something
that's
probably
we've
noticed,
I
think
councilman,
councilman,
Maniscalco,
Miranda
and
Vieira
are
probably
familiar
with
this
and
councilman
ding
Felder
and
his
past
experiences
with
budget.
But
we've
noticed
over
the
last
four
or
five
years
oftentimes
we
come
here
and
we
have
conversations
about
the
budget
and
we'll
ask
about
changes
to
the
budget,
we'll
ask
about
changes
to
the
military
and
a
lot
of
times.
F
F
You
can't
make
significant
changes
based
on
feedback,
and
so
our
suggestion
is
that
we
move
the
budget
process
ahead
or
back
two
to
four
weeks
to
allow
for
more
robust
conversation
and
changes
as
necessary
and
I
think
that
that
would
probably
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
two
to
three
years.
Specifically,
that's
all
I
have
for
you
guys
today
in
terms
of
what
we're
doing
from
a
budget
planning
process
or
the
budget.
F
Advisory
Committee
appreciate
the
opportunity,
thank
you
guys
and
that
are
new
to
council
this
year
for
finding
us
new
members
to
serve
on
the
budget.
Advisory
Committee
I
found
that
all
the
ones
that
have
have
been
appointed
to
committee
have
been
very
value-added
and
have
served,
served
wonderfully
I
look
forward
next
year
to
bringing
our
presentation
and
a
little
bit
earlier
with
us
less
than
60
days
or
probably
45
days.
When
we
thought
about
when
you
guys
were
announced
into
office,
it
gave
us
really
an
expedited
timeframe.
F
A
G
His
committee
to
come
on
so
people
can
see
who
was
on
this
robust
committee
to
make
some
of
these
fabulous
recommendations
to
councils.
They
would
come
up
to
be
recognized
and
to
be
recognized,
I
see
Joe
Johnson
in
the
back
anybody
else
here.
Mr.
light
on
that
committee,
we
should
recognize
these
fine.
H
G
I
just
wanna
say
thank
you
for
the
work
you've
done.
I
know
mr.
Newman
I
know
mr.
Johnson
and
I
know
they've
worked
hard
to
put
some
things
in
this
packet
that
we
probably
can
utilize
and
look
forward
to
finally
implement
because
I
know
when
we
talked
about
procurement
and
talked
about
the
level
of
savings,
and
some
of
these
contracts
have
been
in
flux,
40%,
and
we
think
that
you
don't
thank
you
for
your
service
and.
A
Goodes,
thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
guys
all
for
your
service
on
here.
I
can
tell
you
this
being
my
I
guess
it
is
my
third
budget
round
as
a
city
council,
member
I,
always
not
just
look
forward
to
y'all's
presentation
but
I
pay
it
a
lot
of
deference.
I
really
do
I
mean
my
first
year
on
council.
We
were
looking
at
raising
the
millage
rate
and
you
guys
came
out
strongly
for
that
adjustment.
A
K
K
I
know
we're
busy
doing
a
million
other
things,
but
we
talked
about
starting
it
in
April,
actually,
and-
and
so
maybe
we
don't
have
to
do
it
now,
but
maybe
we
could
look
at
that
schedule
and
starting
early
on
we
talked
about
in
set
of
each
of
us
individually
going.
We
could
just
have
a
forum
where
we
philosophically
discuss
the
budget,
maybe
in
April
yeah.
C
K
J
Thank
you
to
the
committee
and
its
chair
very
good
job
very
comprehensive
I
have
to
say
I'm.
A
little
jealous
I
was
talking
to
mr.
Baden,
and
she
was
telling
me
about
the
amount
of
time
that
each
department
came
in
and
chatted
with
the
with
the
committee
and
specifically
about
the
budget
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
for
this
council
next
year
as
part
of
our
process
and
new
process.
Mr.
J
Bennet,
maybe
one
or
two
departments
could
come
in
in
the
months
leading
up
and
say
you
know
this
is
this
is
what
we
need.
This
is
what
you
know
we're
doing.
This
is
why
we're
so
efficient,
etc,
but
I
think
in
mr.
Vidal
as
much
as
it
might
pain
me
I
think
I
agree
with
many
of
your
recommendations.
Thank
you
for
your
heart.
A
G
Of
staff
in
material
just
said,
some
clarification
points.
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear.
We
have
a
lot
of
packed
house
in
today
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
certain
words
and
jargon.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear,
because
I
keep
hearing
like
doubts
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
you
mentioned
the
CRA
the
see
how
he
came
to
us.
Those
minutes
were
already
sent
to
the
appropriate
people.
That
said,
it
match
what
we
needed
to
do
as
far
as
the
cultural
enrichment
center
and
in
each
template.
G
There
are
also
other
funding
sources
that
people
are
calling
in
reference
to
that.
So
I
don't
want
any
doubt
with
people
think
we
have
doubt
to
you.
This
is
a
project.
You
see
the
audience
they're
here
to
express
their
concerns,
so
I
wanna
make
sure
we
talk
about
that
particular
million
dollars.
Let's
talk
again
worse,
it's
coming
from
where's
it
gonna
be
held
at
so
when
it's
time
to
move
we're
ready
to
move.
E
Yes,
sir
again,
we
anticipate
we've
come
to
you
in
your
first
meeting
in
October
and
heed
request
to
appropriations
one
from
the
community
investment
tax
for
purchase
of
the
asset,
a
second
and
it
wouldn't
be
an
appropriation
in
so
much
as
a
redistribution
of
what
is
already
contained
in
the
budget.
Approximately
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
staffing
of
that
asset
to
expand
EMS
service
in
East
Tampa.
That
is.
H
G
To
the
crowd,
what
a
peak
service
is
cheap,
so
I
can
get
a
clear
understanding,
because
to
me
that's
not
a
full-time
service.
That's
that's!
A
hot
zone
type
issue
for
a
four-car
to
come
out
doing
a
hot
time
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
one
of
those
hot
times,
because
anybody
can
have
a
heart
attack
or
multiple
heart
attacks,
and
she
could
happen
at
any.
Second,
so
explain
to
me
what
that
means.
Sure.
H
The
way
that
the
system
works
currently
is
that
it
is,
we
have
an
ALS
system
within
the
city
of
Tampa
and
that
ALS
system
there
are
ALS
engines
which
provides
advanced
level
of
care,
medicines
and
defibrillation
electrical
therapy
for
those
that
are
in
need
of
the
engine
companies
roll
out
in
concert
with
arrested
units.
Not
every
station
would
have
a
rescue
unit
assigned
to
that
station.
We
match
the
risk
with
the
resources.
The
density
there's
there's
several
avenues
that
we
currently
validate
and
review
on
a
consistent
basis
for
that
what
the
peak
units
do.
H
If
there
is
a
rise
in
any
particular
era,
area
or
or
system,
we
have
the
availability
to
place
a
rescue
unit
in
the
area
or
areas
for
certain
periods
of
time,
while
the
the
busy
part
of
the
day
goes
on.
We
have
established
two
of
these
units
previously
with
great
success
in
the
North
Tampa
area
and
they're.
Staggered
starts
one
starts
and
goes
from
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning
to
eight
o'clock
in
the
evening,
and
one
starts
at
10:00
and
goes
to
10:00
p.m.
H
in
what
it
does
is
it
it
shunts
the
use
of
the
regular
rescue
cars.
It
puts
things
back
to
scale,
so
one
district
is
that
not
out
of
a
line
or
out
of
service
for
any
exorbitant
length
of
time,
so
councilman
you're
correct
it's
not
a
24-hour,
but
I
believe
that
any
consideration
for
a
plus
of
service.
H
You
know
I
understand
how
hard
the
men
and
women
work
on
Terra,
Fire,
Rescue
and
ne+
of
service
is
a
good
thing
and
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
this
plus
of
service
this
additional
unit,
it
is
additional
unit
that
would
be
beneficial
to
the
city
and
it's
beneficial
to
the
area
of
East.
Tampa
I
believe
that
a
Plus
service
of
a
peak
unit
is
viable
and
is
a
great
place
to
start.
I
guess.
G
G
If
we're
talking
overtime,
I,
don't
see
why
we
not
having
talking
like
a
fool
unit
there
versus
paying
three
peak
units
and
overtime
price,
but
my
big
issue
is
that
I
look
at.
We
have
an
ambulance
service
that
we
charge
our
taxpayers
every
time.
I
taxpayer
takes
a
ride.
That's
roughly
about
eight
hundred
bucks,
a
ride.
It's
not
yes!.
G
H
G
B
G
Well,
my
thing
is:
if
you,
if
our
citizens
are
paying
this
money,
it
should
being
some
type
of
trust
or
another
offshore
account
to
what
you
say.
This
money
should
be
replenishing.
Our
fire
department
replenishing
the
rescue
cars,
fire
engines
and
so
forth.
Are
we
getting
those
type
of
dollars
so
to
me,
I'm
kind
of
bad
but
you've
been
the
fargy,
no
disrespect
being
the
fire
chief,
we're
getting
this
kind
of
money,
I'm
just
wondering?
How
are
we
saying
we?
We
can't
afford
a
rescue
well.
H
H
But
what
the
chief
does
do
is
make
sure
that
he
makes
sure
that
the
service
of
the
city
as
a
whole
goes
up
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
do
and
I'm
trying
to
convey
that
so
again,
I
look
at
it
as
a
plus
service.
For
that
I
understand
the
point
that
you
have
about
the
billing
in
and
in
the
questions
that
you
have
I.
G
Well
and
I
understand,
chief
and
I
understand
you.
You
were
under
the
program
I
understand
that
some
time
decisions
are
not
of
your
mate
I
understand
that
well
as
the
councilman
for
a
district
and
for
the
city
when
I
make
a
decision
or
vote
I
vote
for
the
whole
city
at
times,
but
in
this
instance,
I
have
to
look
at
the
folks
in
each
template
and
I
have
to
look
at
what
people
are
paying
and
to
look
at
what
people
are
paying
and
to
say
that
we
don't
have
a
rescue
in
that
district.
G
C
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
of
clarification.
I
know
when
the
original
budget
budget
presentation
is
resilient.
Adhan
August
first
I
want
to
say
that
there
was
nine
new
rescue
units
going
back
into
service
and
I
believe
we
could
pull
up
the
slide
or
the
data,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify.
There
is
ambulance
service
in
the
district
there's
and
the
chief
could
probably
solidify.
C
Like
there's
none
and
then
there
will
be
one
I
think,
even
as
many
as
five
units
are
going
into
the
district.
This
is
an
enhanced
level
of
service
on
the
outer
edges
of
the
district,
to
make
sure
that
the
fire
department
is
keeping
up
with
the
pace
of
the
calls,
as
the
chief
alluded
to,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
it's
not
going
from
zero
to
one.
It's
going
for
many
an
addition.
G
H
Well,
that
one
of
the
new
one
of
the
new
cars
will
be
a
peak
car.
Yes,
sir,
it
will
again,
but
it
it
is
not
a
the
service.
Is
there
for
that
now
there
may
not
be
an
ambulance
in
that
in
that
area
it's
station
16,
but
the
service
is
there
and
we
and
again
we're
trying
to
bring
it
all
up
together.
But
we
we
constantly
look
at
that.
H
G
Again,
I
understand
chief
I,
just
look
at
me
being
a
person
who
was
in
public
service
sitting
there
waiting
for
you
get
a,
but
we're
still
waiting
for
a
rescue
car
to
get
there
so
I
understand
both
ends
of
the
spectrum.
So
it's
not
like
I'm
new
to
the
game.
I
understand
the
game.
I
know
ice
plate.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
now
that
I'm
sitting
this
chair
that
I'm
getting
a
good
deck
of
card,
so
I
can
play
with
my
community
in
the
whole
city
of
temple
as
a
whole.
G
B
Had
a
thank-you,
there
was
something
chief
and
mr.
Goods
that
I
heard
about
Billie
and
as
I
understand
it
in
the
past,
I,
don't
know
how
it
is
now,
when
someone
uses
it
and
doesn't
have
the
funds
to
pay
in
their
bills.
Do
you
mean
that
all
the
bills
are
paid
or
they
stop
after
the
second
time
they
notice
them
it'll,
they
don't
mess
with
me
anymore.
E
Yes,
sir,
yes
exactly
what
the
fire
chief
said,
we
attempt
to
get
payment
when
we're
building
those
services.
We
attempt
repeatedly,
we
do
it
both
internally
and
as
part,
are
in
connection
with
a
third-party
vendor,
but
to
clarify
of
the
seven
or
eight
hundred
dollars
it
costs
to
provide
ambulance
service.
We
typically
only
receive
a
little
under
four
hundred
less
than
half
of
that
due
to
indigent
citizens.
Write-Offs
non-payment.
A
And
Councilman
Carlson
and
then
what
I
was
actually
gonna
do
is
because
I
know
this
is
one
of
the
main
issues
in
dispute.
After
y'all's
presentation,
I
was
going
to
give
a
few
minutes
to
mr.
Greco
and
other
folks
over
there,
maybe
five
minutes
or
so
to
speak,
and
then
we
can
ask
that
question.
Is
that
okay,
okay?
Thank
you.
I.
K
Just
want
to
quickly
chief
Bennett
to
pin
it.
Did
you
pin
it
mr.
Bennett,
would
you
mind
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
if
you're,
if
you're,
okay
with
it,
would
you
mind
telling
us
what
your
experience
was
in
Pinellas
and
and
what
your
we
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
before,
but
what
you
would
plan
on
doing
over
the
next
year?
Well,.
C
Certainly,
my
first
responsibility
is
to
support
the
standardized
level
of
service
that
is
required
by
the
fire
in
citywide,
and
that
means
you
know
just
like
the
other
public
safety
services.
Every
doorstep.
Every
intersection
is
getting
a
standardized
level
of
service
that
meets
the
best
practices
which
we
rely
on
the
department
to
provide
those
to
us.
The
pinellas
model
was
unique
in
a
sense
because
we
had
18
fire
departments,
but
the
county
also
had
its
own
ambulance
service.
So
there
was
almost
a
dual
level
of
response.
C
The
fire
department
would
be
first
on
scene,
much
like
what
the
fire
chief
spoke
about,
that
an
engine
could
get
there,
provide
those
life-saving
services
get
the
response
time
on
target
and
then
the
ambulance
ride
could
either
be
advanced
life,
support
or
basic
life
support.
After
the
initial
response,
Pinellas
was
a
different
model,
basically
about
600
transports.
A
day
we
had
a
very
strong
billi
model.
C
Those
are
the
things
that
chief
and
I've
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
a
my
whopping
22
days
on
on
the
ground
and
we're
looking
forward
to
supporting
this
and
just
to
reiterate
what
he
said.
Our
hope
was
to
increase
the
level
of
service
in
East
Tampa,
based
on
what's
been
discussed,
since
the
budget
was
presented
and
then
really
get
into
this
strategically
after
the
first
of
October
and
get
the
level
of
service
citywide
as
through
the
chief
strategic
plan,
I.
K
C
Absolutely
I
think
the
the
trifecta
at
least
will
be
the
the
fire
chief
as
his
department,
the
CFO
and
myself,
with
35
years
of
public
safety.
Background
are
going
to
work
together,
along
with
anybody
who
wants
to
be
involved
in
that
process
to
make
sure
it's
transparent,
but
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
get
the
services
to
the
citizens.
Citywide
and
I.
C
Think
this
is
a
commitment
to
show
that
progress
tonight
by
adding
by
the
mayor,
adding
the
additional
peak
service
unit
until
we
can
explore
that
final
number
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
only
in
the
strategic
plan
today
but
as
the
city
is
progressively
growing.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
those
level
of
service
standard
is
met
in
all
public
safety
eyes.
Just
like
the
infrastructure.
We've
already
talked
about.
A
Councilman
Dean
Felder
I'll,
wait
until
after
publicly,
okay,
any
other
questions
of
the
administration
from
Council
I
had
just
quick.
If
I
may
I
keep
on
hearing
different
numbers
that
the
costs
on
the
full-time
staff
saw
versus
peak.
What
is
your
position
on
what
that
is
the.
E
A
Is
we're
talking
about
700,000?
Yes,
okay,
just
making
sure
that
that,
for
me,
is
a
an
issue
and
I've
talked
about
it
with
folks
before
is
you
know,
where's
that
money
going
to
come
from
Public
Safety?
We
all
agree
here.
Obviously
you
know
chief
Bennett,
chief
Nick,
mayor
caster,
former
chief
caster.
We
all
agree.
The
public
safety
is
a
big
issue,
but
step
number
two
is
where's
that
money
going
to
come
from
and
a
how
can
I
call
it
a
dismissive
type
of
responses
to
the
reserves,
for
example,
I,
don't
think,
should
fly
here
tonight.
A
We
have
to
be
responsible
with
that
word.
We're
gonna
take
this
thing
forward
if
we
are
and
if
it
shows
that
it's
a
public
safety
necessity,
you
know,
there's
got
to
be
mathematics,
applied
er
I
think
that
certainly
something
is
very
important.
What
is
their
response
time
out
there?
Is
that
something?
That's
that's
known
at
this
time.
Well,.
H
The
response
time,
especially
in
the
16
area,
I,
did
do
some
research
and
look.
The
runs
are
extent
for
the
boxes
that
that
are
all
that
are
all
covered
for
areas
of
10
and
16,
but
for
medical
priority
calls
okay
and
a
first
unit
response
first
on-scene.
What
we
want.
What
we
want
is
8
minutes
and
30
seconds,
8
minutes
or
30
seconds
or
less.
That
is
a
response
time
currently
we're
we're
right
at
7,
almost
7:30,
so
we're
under
that
currently
now,
which
first
unit
response
so
I
mean
services
being
met.
D
H
Yes,
of
course
it
is
surged
and
that's
what
the
peeks
tried
to
help
to
do.
You
know
governments
across
the
country
do
not
have
the
latitude
to
put
a
station
on
every
corner,
and
we
understand
that
mr.
Goodes
understands
from
his
previous
life
about
a
surge
and
when
you
get
things
out
of
districts,
so
to
speak,
and
that
does
happen
and
you
will
get
those
poles.
We
follow
what
ISO
regulates
and
we
try
to
have
that's
why
the
geography
or
the
fire
stations
are
so
important.
H
We
want
a
mile
and
a
half
radius
for
Engine
Company
access
so,
and
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
fire
growth
and
making
sure
that
we
respond
closely,
but
it
will
draw
those
out,
and
this
is
why
the
peak
plan
had
helped
in
the
North
Tampa
area
as
to
not
get
those
those
units
dispersed
to
where
you
have
a
longer
response
time,
catching
a
unit
from
a
southern
area.
So
to
speak.
Yes,.
D
H
Know
40
to
60
s.
Is
it's
probably
a
good
estimation
now
all
those
may
not
bear
a
transport
all
those
may
not
be.
Those
are
all
kinds
of
calls,
but
you
know
in
totality
because
in
a
year's
time
and
some
of
those
you
know
as
far
as
the
district
for
16
you,
you
know
you
may
have
3,000
calls
you
know
in
all
of
those
all
of
those
all
of
those
areas,
but
the
call
number
is
not
the
sole
factor.
It's
specifically
when
you
drill
down
as
to
what
the
items
are,
can.
D
H
H
G
The
person
who
was
shot
the
person
having
a
heart
attack
a
person
who
scraped
their
knee
and
you
know
again
I,
go
back
to
how
people
get
upset
about
sometimes
when
he
called
in
on
our
9-1-1
system
and
they
get
frustrated
and
if
people
they
they
don't
know
all
I
know
is
I
got
an
emergency
and
I
think
at
times
again,
we
don't
mark
right,
because
citizens
get
upset
because
they
feel.
Where
is
the
the
ambulance?
G
They
don't
know
about
you
BLS
unit
or
what
a
LS
you
can
stand
for
all
I
know
we're
looking
for
service,
so
I
think
also
people
got
to
be
educate
a
little
bit
more
about
our
service
and
why
we
have
been
here
less
you
respond
and
why
we
have
a
BLS
didn't
respond
in
a
difference,
because
if
people
get
on
that
phone
and
we're
asking
a
bunch
of
questions,
all
they
care
about,
is
you
ain't
getting
here
fast
enough?
So
what
I
would
say
chief
is
we
need
to
market
better
on
that
aspect
as
well?
G
So
people
can
understand
so
they
don't
get
frustrated
and
we
get
calls
my
office
about
the
ambulance
service
and
I
get
budgets
I
get
that
I
understand
what,
when
I
look
at
Public
Safety,
it's
critical
and
I
know
mr.
chairman
and
was
across
the
holler
about
the
reserves.
I
understand
reserve,
but
just
like,
if
you
guys
savings
account
at
your
house
when
the
AC
comes
out,
but
you
did
an
AC
you,
you
got
to
go
into
the
old
reserves,
your
savings
to
take
care
of
business.
G
This
is
taking
care
of
business
when
I
look
at
what
our
reserve
has
and
when
I
look
across
the
customer.
Some
bond
people
make
some
calls
and
I
look
at
what
they
tell
me.
Template
has
the
bit.
They
call
a
super
super
8,
we're
at
23%
and
it
they
look
at
with
these
bonds.
It's
sixteen
point,
five
something.
So
when
people
tell
me
about
the
bond
about
reserves
and
I
said
we
got
this
amount
of
money
and
we
got
household
chores.
We
need
to
take
care
of
that's
how
I
look
at
that.
I!
G
Look
at
it
like
if
it
was
my
home
and
my
money,
because
when
something's
break
bricks
in
your
home,
sometimes
you
can't
wait
to
fix
it.
You
have
to
fix
it.
So
the
talk
about
reserves.
We
have
a
robust
reserve
and
it's
one
of
the
best
in
the
country
knowing
like
we
are
assets,
the
liability.
We
are
a
sustainable
city
with
what
we
have
and
we
have
well
enough
money.
If
we
have
things
to
take
care,
we
can
take
care
of
so
to
me
about
the
reserves
and
the
bonds
to
me.
A
M
M
M
Some
quick
things
this
doesn't
cut.
This
didn't
come
out
in
the
original
budget.
This
came
up
after
the
original
budget,
so
we've
been
talking
about.
You
know
additional
units
and
trying
to
get
more
people
in
play
and
putting
the
two
and
a
half
years
ago
we
put
these
two
release.
Two
peak
units
in
service
they
haven't,
became
full-time
for
some
reason
and
the
numbers
that
are
haven't
changed.
Station
13
stay
in
18
are
well
over
4,000
calls
per
station.
M
Those
peak
units
have
been
alleviated
and
taken
the
burden
off
its
just
kept
them
from
running
five
thousand
calls
a
year.
Those
peak
units
are
part-time
and
they're
designated.
They
leave
from
a
certain
place,
but
they
go
where
the
call
load
is
so
what
this
new
peak
units
doing
is
is
going
it's
going,
it
might
leave
out
of
station
16,
but
it's
going
to
go
where
the
call
volume
is
so
to
say
it's
designated
there.
M
It's
a
part-time
unit,
that's
staffed
with
overtime
personnel
that
get
overtime
money,
and
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
fix
the
problems.
We
tried
to
fix
some
of
the
problem,
those
two
cars.
One
of
them
ran
1,300
calls
part-time,
he
evelyn
ran
a
thousand
calls
part-time
and
that's
to
date.
That's
not
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Those
numbers
are
real,
1300
calls
and
a
thousand
calls
12
hours
a
day
five
days
a
week,
nothing
on
Sunday,
nothing
on
Monday,
which
are
two
very
busy
days,
so
they
didn't
eliminate
anything
in
North
Tampa.
M
They
just
kept
the
two
units
up
there
that
are
running
4300
calls
and
4,100
calls
from
running
5,000
calls
which
anything
over
three
thousand
is
ridiculous.
But
4,000
calls
at
station
20
hour
at
station
13
and
4,000
calls
at
station
18,
which
is
the
unit
that
chief
of
staff
said,
would
be
cross
crossing
in
those
ones
that
cross
over
into
station.
16
area
is
station,
18
from
30th
and
Hillsborough,
and
the
other
unit
of
station
for
in
Ybor
City,
which
is
the
sixth
busiest
rest
in
the
city
running
just
over
3500
calls
a
year.
M
We
did
a
study
just
on
Charlie
Delta
and
echo
responses,
which
is
with
us
with
a
fire
truck.
It's
a
serious
call.
We
didn't
do
any
of
the
other
calls
they
would
be
running
or
station
16
running
anybody
else's
calls.
We
only
did
ones
in
their
geographical
area,
their
first
alarm
area.
Let's
look
at
those
so.
D
Sorry,
Andrew
Carter
vice
president
10
firefighters,
this
is
a
rough
approximation
of
station
16
s.
First
alarm
territory,
the
black
numbers
are
our
stations.
16,
10-4
and
18
are
the
main
ones
that
we're
going
to
look
at
right
here.
So
station
16
and
10
only
have
engines,
so
their
territories
are
split
between
rescue
18
and
rescue
4
over
station
four
and
station
18
also
have
their
own
response
areas,
so
they
split
to
different
stations,
so
they
have
roughly
two
entire
stations
worth
of
first
alarm
territory.
D
D
We
came
to
a
number
of
1700
and
37,
so
they're
very
close,
and
those
calls
that
additional
ninety
could
come
from
station
eighteen,
responding
into
that
area
station
for
responding
into
that
area.
So
we
say
those
numbers
are
relatively
equal
station.
Tens
territory
should
get
redistricting.
It
should
be
station
four,
with
rescue
for
rescue
sixty
and
rescue
ten.
When
you
add
in
the
quarter
of
calls
that
are
yet
to
come,
rescue
sixteen
would
run
approximately
eighteen
hundred
calls
that
would
place
it
at
this
orange
line.
M
So
what
we're
saying
is
it's
a
station?
Sixteen,
if
you
put
a
full-time
rescue
there,
wouldn't
be
the
slowest
car
on
the
block.
It
would
be
the
sixth
slowest
car
on
the
block,
the
two
peak
units
that
we're
talking
about
that
are
staffed
with
overtime
personnel,
they're
well
below
at
1300,
and
a
thousand
and
they're
they're
part-time.
Five
days
a
week,
you
put
a
rescue
car
at
sixteen
full-time.
M
It's
gonna
run
eighteen
hundred
calls
for
the
year
and
those
are
only
Charlie
Delta
and
echo,
which
are
the
more
serious
they
get
a
fire
truck
with
their
response,
potentially
ALS
coal.
That,
though,
that
station
would
then
be
the
seventh
busy
of
the
seventh
from
the
seventh
slowest
rescue
there
there
would
be
and
that
buzzer
messed
me
up,
sir
anyway,
there
are
lots
already
putting
another
wall.
Just
so
you
know
those
those
peak
units
are
staffed
with
voluntary
overtime.
If
they
don't
get
a
volunteer,
they
don't
go
in
service.
M
A
M
Real
quick
so,
though,
that
peak
unit
was
wouldn't
be
designated
at
station
16,
it
might
leave
the
station
out
of
16,
but
it
wouldn't
be
designated
and
it
wouldn't
be
in
service
all
the
time
only
when
it
got
in
which
it
does
most
of
the
time
get
a
volunteer
for
that.
But
it's
not
mandatory.
It's
volunteer,
as
the
burnout
happens,
you're
going
to
lose
those
people
there's
only
a
defined
amount
of
people
that
work
that
lieutenant
paramedic
that
worked
that
overtime.
M
A
M
K
Can
I
can
I
just
ask
you
a
simple
question:
what
do
you
reckon?
What
are
you
recommending
well.
M
We've
been
talking
me:
the
cities
didn't
need
a
full-time
rescue
cars
for
a
long
time
and
I,
don't
know
where
that,
where
the
failure
has
been
at
I,
don't
want
to
blame
anybody,
whether
it's
city
staff
or
fire
department
staff,
but
we're
well
behind
in
ordering
and
putting
new
full-time
rescue
cars
in
place.
If
you
look
at
the
statistics
on
how
many
calls
these
these
stations
are
running,
our
station
20
is
running.
Approximately
20
calls
a
day,
you're.
M
There's
there's
other
places
I'm
sure
the
chief
would
agree
that
station
13
and
future
in
the
next
year's
budget.
They're
gonna
have
to
do
something
there,
because
enough
is
enough.
There's
only
so
many
runs
you
can
run
in
a
day.
20
is
more
than
enough.
There
was
one
day
not
too
long
ago,
but
they
ran
46
separate
calls
out
of
station
13
46
separate,
run
numbers
out
of
that
station.
It's
out
of
control,
but
can
I.
M
I
mean
it's
been
way
overdue
in
station
16
area
that
car
came
out
of
there
17
years
ago.
It
never
went
back.
It
went
to
Hana
and
Nebraska
to
backfill
I
caught
talk
to
the
chief.
It
was
in
place
when
he
took
it
out
today.
I
talked
to
chief
boto.
Rescue
11
at
the
time
was
running
crazy.
So
it
was
the
advice
of
dr.
Carew
ba'
to
move
the
rescue
car
from
10,
which
is
in
of
course,
he's
Tampa.
M
We've
went
from
running
60,000
calls
into
almost
90,000
calls
now
now
you're
talking
about
in
just
16
area
every
day,
Charlie
Delta
Necto
responses
would
be
5
calls
a
day,
just
Charlie,
Delta
and
echo
in
their
geographic
area,
not
to
mention
the
calls
they
would
run
into
fours
area
into
a
teens
area
and
all
the
other
places,
because
we're
all
still
going
to
cross-transfer
we're
all
still
going
to
go
into
other
districts
or
into
other
areas.
They're.
M
Never
you
never
sit
in
your
designated
geographic
location,
you
go
to
where
the
call
is
and
wherever
the
availability
is
so
we're
closest
unit
responds
if
16
is
designated
in
East
Tampa,
it's
going
to
run
calls
in
Ybor
City.
It's
going
to
run,
calls
in
downtown
Tampa
and
coming
very
soon
in
the
in
the
Sparkman's
Worth
district,
when
all
those
towers
are
full
down
there.
It's
going
to
be
running
down
there
that
we
haven't
planned
for
so
a
designated
unit
at
16.
Full
time
is
what's
called
for
here
you
can.
N
J
Gentlemen,
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
mr.
Grecco.
Thank
you
for
your
passion.
Yes,
sir,
we
know
you
love
this
city
and
we
know
you
love
the
fire
department.
I
I
had
a
question
that
don't
hang
around
on
the
side
in
case
somebody
else
has
a
question,
but.
J
For
either
the
chief
Bennett
or
chief,
the
fire
department,
one
or
the
other,
whoever
wants
to
take
the
question,
but
chief
somebody
mentioned
chief
boto
I,
think
mr.
Grecco
did
and
he's
home
recuperating.
We
all
send
him
our
best.
He
texted
me
and,
of
course
he
was
chief
for
a
long
time
and
he
got
his
thirty
thirty
plus
years
in
with
the
fire
department.
He
texted
me.
He
said
back
back
when
he
was
chief.
We
had
a
four
a
four
minute
response.
J
Of
course
he
feels
that's
unacceptable,
I'd
like
to
know
if
that's
fairly
accurate
from
from
this
the
city's
perspective.
Mr.
Drecker
you
can
chime
in
as
well
afterwards
and
and
how
we
feel
about
it
and
listen.
I'm,
not
delusional
thinking
we're
gonna
solve
this
tonight,
but
I
just
want
to
know
if
it's
on
our
menu
to
be
solving
it
and
getting
to
a
better
place
over
the
next
year.
So
or
what
specifically,
is
our
plan
to
get
back
to
these
numbers
of
you
know
a
four
or
five
minute
response
time?
H
H
What
can
we
expect,
and
what
can
we
afford
to
do
that
with
I
mean
love
chief
photo
in
yes
many
years
ago
we
did
have
a
four
or
five
minute
response
time
and
we're
going
from
thirty
eight
forty
thousand
calls
to
eighty
eight,
eighty,
nine
thousand
and
some
change
and
many
many
different
miles
have
been
added
to
the
city.
We
have
air
at
different
areas
to
cover
and
it
makes
an
extreme
stretch.
So
can
we
get
there?
It
takes
staffing
and
money
to
get
there
to
do
that.
H
We
are
making
the
standard
on
what
on
the
benchmark
that
we
set
it.
Doesn't
it
is
not
out
of
realm
with
accreditation
and
and
they
look
at
fire
departments,
we're
one
of
two
hundred
and
twenty
some
I
fire
departments
internationally
accredited
and
do
they
go
through
everything
and
they
vet
through
everything
and
it
doesn't?
It
doesn't
raise
the
fact
they
always
want
us
to
move
the
needle,
but
it.
J
H
Yeah,
it's
a
consensus
document
that
NFPA
has
response
times
and
they're
very,
very
tight,
they're,
very
tight
and
they're
more
on
not
the
four
minute
response
time.
Six
minute
response
time,
four-minute
travel
time
to
do
that,
you
have
to
really
make
your
stations
a
lot
more
dense
to
be
able
to
handle
that
travel
time.
So
with
that
it
takes
more
units,
it
takes
more
staffing.
If
that's
the
deal
now,.
J
J
There
were
no
I
mean
I
mean
in
terms
of
maxing
them
out.
I
know
you
I
know
you're
moving
them
around
and
that's
sort
of
thing
again.
I'm
not
saying
we're
trying
to
solve
this.
No
I
I
understand
I'm,
just
saying:
well,
it's
it's!
It's
an
interesting
discussion.
I
appreciate
your
response
to
mr.
Drecker.
Do
you
have
anything
to.
M
Greco
chief
LoCicero
is
right.
We
do
we
do
get
to
every
call.
We
initiate
care
at
an
als
level
with
all
the
ALS
engines
in
the
city.
It's
the
transports
that
we're
failing
at,
because
it's
not
that
the
staff
doesn't
want
it
or
anything
like
it's,
because
we
haven't
moved
the
needle.
In
the
last
16
years.
We
haven't
added
those
rescues
that
have
been
required.
M
We're
we're
relying
on
these
rescues
to
run
so
many
calls
a
day
that
you're
getting
decreased
level
of
care
just
because
there's
so
more
out,
not
because
they
want
to,
but
when
you're
up
24
hours,
all
that
care
that
you
would
have
been
at
10
calls
is
going
to
be
different
than
its
at
20
calls
just
because
of
your
your
level
of
tiredness.
So
we
do
get
to
the
calls
it's
nothing
to
happen
to
do
with
staff
saying
that
they
don't
want
it.
M
We
need
to
start
moving
it
because
the
city's
growing
and
we're
behind
now
on
rescue
cars.
We
have
sufficient
engines
to
cover
the
city.
We
we
have
sufficient
tower
trucks
to
cover
the
city.
We
don't
have
sufficient
rescue
cars
to
haul
the
bodies
or
we
wouldn't
have
rescue
cars
run
in
4300
calls
and
4400
calls
a
year.
That's
those
are
real
numbers.
You
can
go
and
get
cheap
with.
This
ro
can
provide
those
to
you.
Those
these
cars
are
running
crazy.
M
We
need
some
more
transport
calls
and
putting
a
another
peak
car
in
place,
as,
like
I
said
last
time,
a
band-aid
on
a
bullet
hole
it's
over
time
for
people
that
don't
have
to
work
it
it's
voluntary.
So
that
means
when
they
don't
want
to
work
it.
If
there
isn't
enough
people
to
staff
it,
it
doesn't
leave
the
station.
So
then
Orlando
boozes
station
16
doesn't
have
a
rescue
car
or
station
12
or
wherever
else
at
waiting.
J
Q
Nestor
drinking
yes,
sir,
the
only
thing
I
would
add.
Mr.
chairman
is
I
heard
a
not
for
you
Jim.
Mr.
chairman
I
heard
a
comment
earlier
from
somebody
and
I
think
might
have
been
mr.
Drecker.
That
said,
that
a
lot
of
this
time
is
is
filled
by
off-duty
folks
or
overtime.
And
again
you
know
this
issue
about
what
is
the
our
efficiency
in
using
overtime
and
I.
J
A
couple
you
weeks
ago,
when
we
were
looking
through
the
budget,
not
as
asking
questions,
we've
got
some
big
overtime
numbers
I
think
it
was
seven,
eight
nine
million
dollars
of
overtime
and
a
lot
of
that
is
in
police
and
fire.
Most
of
it
is
in
police
and
fire.
So
so
again,
we're
not
gonna
solve
this.
Then
tonight
any
of
those
issues
but
I'm
confident
mr.
Bennett
will
be
addressing
those
over
the
next
year
with
us
about.
A
G
Guess
what
concerns
me
now
more
than
ever
as
we
talk
about
overtime
and
we
talk
about
when
people
don't
want
to
work.
So
if
you're
saying
that
peak
cars
and
people
don't
want
to
work,
then
there's
no
card,
it's
leaving
the
house.
So
my
question
again:
if
we
don't
have
a
full-time
staff,
then
we
don't
have
people
giving
service
in
a
community.
So
I,
like
chief,
does
this
for
that
to
come
up,
because
is
what
mr.
Grecco
saying
is
true:
we're
we're
running
five
days
we
don't
want
to.
H
The
peak
days
and
times
were
picked
just
because
they
were
peak
days
and
times
those
very
we
continually
look
at
them,
but
that
was
originally
why
it
was
set
the
way
and
the
manner
in
which
it
was
the
other
thing
is,
is
that
it
is
voluntary.
I
do
agree,
it's
totally
voluntary
for
them.
We
have
not
had
any
issues
with
serviceability
of
those
really
on
any
great
scale.
I
understand
that
this
would
be
another,
and
we
would
you
know.
H
I
would
answer
that
by
saying
that
I
would
just
look
at
that,
and
we
would
manage
that
as
we
would
we
would
we
would
adjust.
We
addressed
our
deployment
all
the
time
to
fit
the
need
of
what
the
circumstance
is,
and
we
would
look
at
that.
So
I
don't
see
that
that
to
be
a
problem,
it
could
be
a
problem,
but
we
would
adjust
and.
A
K
Mr.
mr.
Greco,
we
have
a
new
chief
of
staff
there,
the
chief
of
staff
and
the
mayor
are
going
through
I,
think
every
department,
the
city
looking
from
top
to
bottom,
at
how
to
improve
it
and
they're.
Making
a
lot
of
changes
and
a
chief
Bennett
had
said
that
he's
gonna,
look
at
this
department
and
all
the
departments.
K
Do
you
think
that
what
you
said
is
this?
Is
this
that
we're
talking
about
is
a
band-aid
right
now
it
seems
like
we
need
to
look
at
this
systemically
and
the
Union
needs
to
partner
with
the
fire
chief
and
and
the
chief
of
staff
and
the
mayor.
Is
it
possible
over
the
next
year
that
you
all
can
all
partner
and
look
at
this
systemically
and
come
back
with
a
recommendation
earlier
than
I've?
You
know
we
got
stuck
with
this
at
the
at
the
last
minute
and
it's
it
sounds
like
there's.
M
So
this
is
the
first
time
this
has
gotten
any
traction.
This
isn't
the
first
time
this
has
been
brought
up,
whether
through
labor
management
or
anything
else,
I've
been
here
through
three
mayor's
and
quite
a
few
chief
of
staff's
and
we've
been
kicking
the
can
for
long
enough.
We
are
at
the
level
where
enough
is
enough.
If
anybody
will
put
a
number
well,
if
I
hear
that
same
one
more
time
wins
enough
enough.
We've
talked
about
this
forever.
This
isn't
something
that
just
popped
up
that
rescue
car
is
needed.
M
I
think
the
numbers
are
there
to
prove
it.
You
can
put
another
a
peak
unit
in,
but
if
three,
if
you
only
got
a
defined
amount
of
people
that
can
ride
that
rescue
car
and
when
they're
done
when
they're
burned
out,
which
they
are
when
they're
done,
the
peak
unit
doesn't
run
anymore
because
it's
not
mandatory,
it's
voluntary,
it's
asking
it's
not
telling.
So
it's
not
the
fix.
M
It
is
a
quick
fix
to
up
to
a
big
problem,
but
it's
not
the
fix
and
if
you're
saying
work
with
staff
to
get
it
on
the
handshake
deal.
I'd
love
to
I'd
love
to
have
a
good
conversation.
That
means
something
that
things
get
done,
but
here
recently
things
aren't
getting
done
and
I
spoke
to
mr.
Bennett.
Today,
good
handshake
deals
again
to
make
things
happen,
but
depending
on
what
happens
in
the
next
year,
maybe
maybe
something
tanks
and
all
of
a
sudden.
M
Now
it's
gone
again,
so
you
can't
rely
on
having
good
conversations
and
handshake
deals
anymore,
to
make
anything
to
say
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
it.
It's
through
talking
you've
got
people
that
are
getting
out
of
the
rescue
division
because
they
can't
take
it
anymore.
It's
the
only
time
in
the
career
here
that
I've
seen
more
people
trying
to
get
out
of
rescue
than
trying
to
get
into
rescue.
When
I
came
on,
you
couldn't
get
the
people
out
of
rescue
they
loved
rescue.
Now
they
don't
love
rescue
because
we're
beating
them
up
every
single.
B
Sir
last
question:
techies
chairman
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
the
fire
department
and
the
union
representative
also
appreciate
everything
that
chief
Bennett
has
in
my
years
of
experience
here.
No
one
has
been
as
accommodating
to
everyone
and
I
mean
that
sincerely
and
I
don't
flatter
people
and
chief
Bennett.
He
has
been
very
accommodating.
He
does
it
in
a
way
that
he's
not
insulting
to
anyone
he's
very
soft-spoken.
The
only
thing
I
don't
like
about
him
that
he's
a
left-handed,
strong,
pitcher
I
could
never
hit
him.
B
But,
aside
from
that,
you
have
to
have
and
I'm
asking
both
the
Union
and
the
fire
department
and
really
the
whole
city.
You
see
when
you
want
to
get
out
of
someplace.
Where
you're
going
look
at
the
plan.
What's
gonna
happen
in
ten
years
you
got
to
have
a
ten-year
plan.
I
had
it
all
my
life,
where
I
wanted
to
do
the
next
ten
years,
whether
I
failed,
a
success
depends
who
you
ask,
but
in
saying
that
I
mean
this.
B
What
does
that
mean
then
you're
talking
now
about
fire
rescue
engines,
good
sort
of
people
who
work
there,
what
are
they
going
to
be
driving
the
fire
engines
not
inexpensive
is
about
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars.
An
ambulance
is
about
500,000
fully
equipped.
What
are
you
gonna
do
then?
You
better
start
thinking
not
for
today,
not
for
that
car
code.
That
car
is
needed.
There's
no
doubt.
However.
What
are
you
gonna
do
then
where's
the
money
coming
from
city's
gonna
continue
to
grow
and
I've
had
emails
today
say:
stop
everything,
no
more!
B
H
B
What's
gonna
happen
in
2026,
you
have
to
think
way
way
far
in
advance
and
you
may
have
to
make
some
calculation
changes
because
all
those
projections,
but
in
doing
that,
you're
gonna
find
that
the
needs
are
going
to
extensively
grow
if
we're
going
to
have
a
35
or
40
percent
increase
in
population.
That's
what
this
consensus
said
what's
gonna
happen,
then,
are
your
roads
ready
and
that
who
knows
what
the
Supreme
Court
is
gonna
do
on
that
tax
for
roads
they
may
go
up
and
they
may
go
down
and
then
what
happened?
B
I've
said
that
many
times
here,
but
in
the
case
of
the
chief
I've,
seen
and
watched
everything,
that's
asked
of
him
and
it
was
on
trust
and
it
was
verified
because
everything
he
said
up
to
this
date
he's
come
right
through
that
third
pictures
of
strike
on
the
outside
corner.
So
he's
done
everything
accordingly
to
what
he
said.
So
he's
earned
my
trust.
B
The
verification
is
for
the
unions
and
the
chief
and
the
administration
to
get
together,
not
the
plan
for
next
year.
You
better
have
planned
for
10
years,
because
that
growth
is
coming,
whether
you
want
it,
I
don't
want
it
guess:
what's
happened
in
Tampa
the
crank
kids
used
to
go
to
college
somewhere
else
and
stay
there.
The
grandkids
are
going
to
college
and
coming
back
and
thank
God.
They
are
because
I
couldn't
afford
an
airplane
ticket.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
live?
B
You
can
say
anything
you
want
about
the
city
temp,
it's
so
bad
that
it's
gonna
grow
by
40%,
that's
a
terrible
illness,
and
when
you
look
at
the
things
we
do
and
I'm
not
gonna
get
to
things.
We
don't
do,
but
it's
a
company
bomb.
The
seven
of
us
understand
that
that
man
has
got
a
job
to
do
and
so
far
he
hasn't.
Let
me
down
and
he
hasn't
let
the
citizens
down
so
I
trust
him
until
tomorrow
defend
what
he
does
so
I
appreciate
what
he's
done.
B
M
M
B
Your
plan
for
next
year,
only
you
got
nine
years.
You're
gonna
lose
because
you're
not
ready
for
it.
That's
what
happens
in
life
and
that's
how
it
is
today.
Society
has
changed,
people
haven't
changed,
the
system
has
changed,
they
get
elected
to
raise
money
and
I'm,
not
talking
about
us,
and
then
we
don't
get
elected.
Keep
the
money.
I
never
saw
that
when
I
was
living
1860
counterpart
never
heard
of
anything
like
that.
B
My
father
told
me
things
when
I
was
a
kid
that
I
thought
it
was
nuts
and
now
I'm
gonna
go
to
grave
and
talk
to
him
because
he
was
right.
I
was
a
guy
who
was
nuts,
but
he
also
had
much
more
experience
than
I.
Did
so
I
see
what
this
Gauss
is.
Gonna
do
and
I
appreciate
both
your
certainly.
Your
presentation
was
more
than
superb.
It
was
to.
The
point:
is
the
chief?
Let's
just
also
two
different
views
arriving
at
the
same
conclusion.
I
understand,
I,
understand
any
differences.
B
There's
always
gonna
be
differences
unless
you
lift
single,
you
live
other
wife,
you're
gonna
tell
you
what
to
do,
but
thank
God
that
we're
here
today
and
thank
God
that
this
city
has
gotten.
Where
is
that
today
and
then
to
get
here
because
elected
officials
they
got
here
because
of
the
people
in
Tampa,
wanting
to
make
it
better
for
their
children
to
stay
here.
Thank.
A
Those
are
two
men
that
I
trust
a
whole
lot.
So
this
is
something
where
I
do
hope
that
there
is
a
lot
of
cooperation
and
a
lot
of
work
together
to
be
done
and
I
think
something
that
councilman
Carlson
said
is
very
true,
which
is.
This
is
a
city
wide
issue.
We
talked
about
station
13,
we
talked
about
East
Tampa.
This
is
a
real
citywide
issue
and
it
leads
me
to
the
belief
that
the
city
of
Tampa
does
not
have
a
spending
problem.
We
have
a
revenue
problem.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
lot
of
needs
that
surpass
our
revenue.
That
is
a
discussion
that
we
had
two
years
ago
and
that's
the
discussion.
Do
we
need
to
have
again
in
the
future?
No
one
likes
to
talk
about
it,
but
it's
a
fact
because
these
aren't
once
okay,
this
isn't
something
that
we're
is
is
a
preference.
This
is
Public
Safety.
This
is
police.
This
is
fire.
This
is
somebody's
having
a
heart
attack
and
you
got
to
get
EMS
out
there,
somebody's
a
victim
of
a
crime.
You
got
to
get
a
police
officer
out
there.
A
Comment
and
if
everyone
please,
who
is
going
to
be
speaking
tonight
on
on
the
item,
if
you
could
please
just
so
that
we
have
an
idea,
raise
your
hands:
okay,
good
now.
Furthermore,
after
raising
your
hand,
if
you
could
please
come
forward
to
my
left,
I
guess
y'all's
right
line
up
against
the
wall,
if
you're,
but
to
do
so
and
get
in
line
for
public
comment.
Three
minutes
person-
and
please
begin
by
stating
your
name.
M
P
You
good
evening
my
name
is
Ella
coffee,
citizen,
here
of
the
city
of
Tampa
and
I'm,
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
need
of
services
in
East,
Tampa
East
Tampa
needs
a
full-time,
Rescue
Squad,
we
lost
the
rescue
squad
and
our
community
seems
to
continue
to
lose
things
and
I.
Don't
have
the
great
confidence
that
we're
ever
thought
about
when
we're
talking
about
replacing.
Now
is
the
time
that
we
need
to
replace
the
rescue
squad
in
East
Tampa.
It
needs
to
be
our
top
priority
because
it
is
about
safety.
P
It
is
about
transporting
people
in
their
time
of
need
their
crisis
when
they
need
city
services.
The
most
mr.
Miranda
councilman
Miranda
spoke
about
40%
growth.
If
there's
40
percent
growth
happening
in
Tampa,
then
taxes
are
increasing
here
in
Tampa
we're
collecting
more
money.
So
we
shouldn't
have
an
issue
about
where
the
money
is
going
to
come
from.
If
we're
spending
$400,000
on
a
peak
time,
part-time
car
and
double
it
plus,
maybe
another
20%
gives
us
a
full
time.
7
days,
24
hours,
that's
a
much
better
fit
for
the
city
of
Tampa.
P
When
you
got
to
stop
kicking
kicking
the
can
down
the
road,
we
have
five
units
going
into
this
area
to
help
and
if
we
have,
if
it
has
its
own
rescue
squad,
it's
going
to
be
the
seventh
busiest
Rescue
Squad
here
in
the
city.
It's
not
an
A+
service
with
the
peak
it's
a
service.
These
are
services
that
the
city
is
required
to
provide
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
providing
it
equally
throughout
the
entire
city.
No
other
part
of
the
city
loses
services
like
East
Tampa
and
we're
ignored.
I.
P
Ask
that
you
all
consider
the
full
time
versus
the
peak,
because
we
have
full-time
people
that
get
sick
and
they
need
services
when
they
need
services,
and
it's
not.
We
may
not
choose
to
have
a
heart
attack
on
Tuesday
at
12
o'clock.
When
we
have
a
peak
service,
it
may
happen
Sunday
night
at
and
if
we're
not
there,
to
provide
the
services
I'm
afraid
that
the
city
is
going
to
be
sued
when
a
family
loses
their
loses,
their
family
member
or
their
loved
one,
because
we
weren't
there
to
provide
the
service.
Thank
you
all.
Thank.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Betty
Jay
Bell,
BLL
I'm,
give
about
three
thousand
and
three
star
Street
Tampa
33
605
I'm.
Here
today,
representing
all
seniors
living
in
East
Tampa.
We
have
been
deprived
of
senior
exercise
and
communication
for
many
years
by
having
to
lead
the
various
rec
centers
when
children
are
released
from
school.
Speaking
of
one
group,
the
Jazz
is
seniors.
We
were
blessed
to
get
permission
to
use
Reagan
Center
about
five
years
ago,
because
we
don't
have
to
leave
at
12
noon.
Our
membership
has
grown
to
over
180
plus
seniors.
N
We
meet
on
Monday,
Wednesday
and
Friday.
We
have
many
activities
going
on
in
one
big
room
example:
shuffleboard
bingo
cause
dominoes,
arts
and
crafts,
dancing
aerobics
exercise.
Two
days
a
week,
vendors
and
cooking.
We
go
on
outings.
Also.
We
are
in
dire
need
of
a
multicultural
center
that
will
benefit
seniors
as
well
as
children
and
the
central
location
would
be
Albarn's
Park.
N
Each
therefore
needs
and
elements
for
the
community.
It
is
sorely
needed,
but
7
square
miles.
We
need
that.
We
need
an
indoor
shuffleboard
court
in
this
Center
that
we
are
asking
for
and
separate
room
for.
Different
activities
has
in
this
new
center
prayer
is
very
important
to
our
seniors.
We
have
two
chapters.
We
celebrate
birthdays
every
three
months.
We
cater.
We
have
catered
food
and
gifts
for
each
person.
N
Hospital
states
are
given
$25
immediate
deaths
in
a
family,
they
are
given
$50
visiting
nursing
homes,
doing
holidays
singing
and
gifts
are
given
for
different
shirts
for
use
in
this
group.
The
jazzy
seniors
and
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
the
consonants
and
especially
to
councilman
Orlando
gue,
who
has
said
promises
made
and
promises
kept.
We
have
seniors
from
all
over
the
Hillsborough
County
area,
West
Ham,
Riverview
progress,
village,
Carrollwood,
Ruskin
Brennan
gives
it
to.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
I
Cable
station
I'm
not
here
for
the
one-year
plan,
but
for
the
10-year
plan,
and
we
can
incorporate
our
fire
department
of
Police
Department
to
kind
of
let
the
community
know
it's
not
an
easy
thing.
You
know
that
it
takes
money,
time,
effort
voices
to
get
the
money
to
the
areas
that
I
needed.
You
know.
That's
all
I'm
here
for
us
to
support
them,
and
I
came
here
for
a
different
reason.
But
after
hearing
everything
and
the
guys
speak
about,
you
know
where
money
is
lacking.
I
I
just
idea
came
up
to
incorporate
out
every
kid
I
know
in
these
communities.
When
they
grow
up,
they
want
to
be
a
policeman
or
a
fireman,
but
they
have
no
idea
what
it
takes.
They
have
no
idea
how
much
it
costs
and
the
effort
that
it
takes
to
get
these
things
done.
So
that's
really
all
I
have
to
say,
and
thank
you
thank.
Q
Hi
police
Thompson,
the
executive
director
of
Tampa
Bay
Community,
Network,
a
service
of
Speak
Up,
Tampa,
Bay,
public
access,
television
ad
in
the
early
1980s,
the
city
and
the
County
residents.
Each
received
three
channels
from
the
cable
company,
the
government,
access
channel,
the
public's
access
channel
and
the
education
access
channel.
These
things
were
run
from
the
University
Tampa
campus
since
the
early
80s,
and
they
were
run
by
the
cable
companies
of
the
channel
trained
people
in
TV
production
and
helped.
Residents
and
nonprofits
have
a
voice
on
TV.
Q
The
channels
were
operated
by
the
cable
company
until
2000,
when
both
the
city
and
the
county
asked
our
nonprofit
speak
up,
Tampa
Bay
to
manage
the
channels.
Since
then,
we
have
featured
thousands
of
individuals
and
nonprofit
organizations,
we've
improved
the
quality
of
the
channels
and
also
expanded
onto
the
internet,
making
video
production
training,
our
signature
programming
and
also
doing
web
streaming,
and
providing
on-demand
programming
and
podcasting
people
we've
trained
or
employed
by
the
local
network,
affiliates
the
other
access
channels
and
many
started
their
own
production
companies
helped
on
local
films,
etc.
Q
We
had
the
support
of
the
city
in
the
amount
of
550,000
annually
for
many
years.
In
the
past
few
years,
we've
suffered
many
cutbacks
and
in
2017
when
former
mayor,
Buckhorn,
defunded
us
and
the
education
channel,
which
I'm
glad
you
guys
have
put
back
in
the
budget,
we
went
down
to
two
hundred
and
seven
thousand
six
hundred
dollars.
The
county
has
provided
us
with
some
money
for
the
training
of
residents,
but
we
can't
do
it
without
the
city's
money.
Q
There's
money,
it's
the
seventeen
million
that
is
coming
from
the
communication
services
tax,
where
the
cable
companies
put
their
money
in
other
cities
and
states.
They
have
designated
that
some
portion
of
that
money
coming
into
municipalities
should
go
to
the
operation
of
the
public,
education
and
government
access
channels.
We
currently
have
511
Catholic
students,
some
you'll
need
tonight
in
the
past
year
that
our
students
have
taken
1851
classes.
Q
We
have
an
enormous
demographic
of
minorities
and,
last
but
not
least,
we've
cut
back
everything
we
could
no
one's
had
a
bonus
or
a
raise
in
eight
years
to
keep
this
thing
going,
we're
down
to
four
employees
from
fifteen.
So
we
really
need
this
money
if
you
could
ask
again
for
some
money.
Last
but
not
least,
I
noticed
in
a
state
statute
that
the
operation
of
public
educational
government
access
channels
are
the
responsibility
of
the
municipality
or
County,
and
so
you're
responsible
for
these
and
I
hope
you'll
help
us.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
R
Hi,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Joshua
Lynch.
They
get
for
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
speak
today,
I'm
here
also
to
speak
about
the
Tampa
Bay
Community
Network
as
well,
and
my
experience
with
them
and
the
education
that
they
provided
me.
So
I
I've,
been
with
in
the
film
industry
for
a
couple
months
now,
I'm
now
doing
full
time
a
production
assistant
job,
an
independent
contractor
through
that
and
I
spent
two
years
in
college
for
film
school
and
I
never
got
to
touch
a
camera.
S
Thanks
for
allowing
me
this
time,
my
name
is
Robin
Ford
and
I
am
also
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
TBC
n
I've
graduated
from
there
I'm
certified
TV
producer
and
since
then,
I've
been
able
to
have
my
own
show
on
their
network
as
well
as
expand
onto
YouTube.
And
after
doing
that,
I've
been
doing
it
for
the
past
two
months,
but
this
month,
I
usually
have
a
show
once
a
month.
But
I
can't
do
it
this
month,
because
I
can't
afford
it
and
the
reason
for
the
reason
I
can't
afford.
S
It
is
because
it
costs
200
plus
dollars
to
actually
rent
out
their
studio
and
their
control
room.
And
you
might
be
wondering
why
does
it
cost
that
much?
Well?
That's
because
the
studio
has
to
charge
people
now,
because
they
don't
have
the
funding
if
they
were
to
have
that
funding.
They'd
be
able
to
have
these
classes
for
free,
as
they
did
in
the
past,
and
people
like
myself
and
others
who
want
like
to
have
their
own
shows,
who
want
to
just
realize
their
own
dreams
would
be
able
to
do
it
at
a
whim
essentially
and.
S
So
filming
alone
isn't
the
only
thing
that
people
can
benefit
from
here
and
not
just
it's
not
just
that.
There's
also
the
economic
benefits
from
it
as
well,
because
when
doing
TV
production,
you
can
ask
for
sponsorships
from
different
companies
different
small
businesses,
and
by
doing
so
they
will
be
a
the
producer,
will
be
able
to
help
promote
their
businesses
and
help
traffic
go
towards
those
establishments
which,
of
course,
helps
those
businesses
prosper
and
grow
and
listen.
S
T
Good
afternoon
council,
my
name
is
Bishop
Michelle
B,
Patti
I'm,
the
pastor
of
Trinity
and
faith
ministry.
Many
of
members
of
my
congregation
lives
in
East
and
West
camp
or
Bama
height.
Your
zip
code
should
not
determine
what
type
of
service
or
how
much
service
you
receive.
We
should
have
a
permanent,
a
permanent
fire
station
with
the
paramedics
I'm
hearing
them
saying
that
it's
volunteer
that
times
might
come
with
people
may
or
may
not
be
there.
Council
Magoo's
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
T
If
we're
gonna
pay
overtime,
then
we
need
just
staff,
it's
more
to
pay
for
overtime
staff.
That's
have
that
staff
there.
Also
when
you
look
at
people
lives.
It's
already
been
said.
You
can't
dictate
when
a
heart
attack,
stroke,
somebody's
being
shot
in
the
community.
One
minute
can
make
the
difference.
In
a
person.
Life
I
have
a
nephew
that
it's
brain
dead
because
he
couldn't
get
oxygen
to
his
brain.
So
you
every
life
is
valuable.
T
We
cannot
sit
here
and
wait
for
the
state
to
come
back
and
say
how
many
people
died
because
people
your
response
time
was
that
short.
When
we
talk
about
taxpayers,
we're
paying
the
same
money,
they
don't
charge
the
people
each
stamp
any
less
than
they
do
over
in
Davis
Island,
so
they
should
not
receive
any
less
service
than
what
anyone
else
is
receiving.
T
When
we
talk
about
that
of
the
different
community,
centers
I'm
just
sitting
at
the
fact
that
you
want
to
pick
the
people
from
different
parts
of
the
community
against
one
another,
you
even
put
in
the
chief,
the
fire
chief
and
Joe
Greco
they're
up
here,
who
trusts?
Who
you
know
the
reality
is
that
we
all
need
service
and
it's
long
overdue.
As
council
Magoo,
you
stated
quite
eloquent,
it's
long
overdue.
So
when
you
look
at
promises
that
has
been
made
over
the
years,
we
need
to
talk
about
Fair
Oaks.
T
We
need
to
talk
about
the
Multicultural
Center
and
we
need
to
fund
all
of
these
things
as
a
priority.
African-American
people
should
not
have
to
come
here
time
and
time
again
and
beg
and
plead
for
what
is
do
us
we
are
do
because
we
are
taxpayers.
We
are
citizens
you're,
looking
at
the
Super
Bowl
coming
you're.
Looking
at
all
these
grand
things
coming
to
the
city
and
I
pray,
this
is
not
nationally
televised
because
it
seems
like
we're
in
some
foreign
country,
where
you
don't
care
about
all
of
the
citizens,
and
that
is
not
right.
T
When
people
pay
their
taxes
and
each
one
of
y'all
coming
out
of
community
say:
you're
gonna
do
something,
and
then
we
get
here,
it's
a
whole
bunch
of
fluff.
The
fluff
need
to
stop
and
people
need
to
be
taken
care
of
and
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
listening
and
this
council
I
have
trust
in
you
all.
I
have
trust
in
you
all
that
you're
going
to
do
the
right
thing
and
don't
give
me
that
excuse
the
budget
was
already
made
up.
You
can't
do
anything.
T
L
T
v--
CN
is
worth
Tampa's
financial
and
public
support
one.
It's
unlike
schools,
colleges
and
universities,
where
students
take
classes
graduate,
leave
an
attempt
to
get
a
position
in
their
chosen
field
of
study.
It's
also,
unlike
those
schools,
colleges
and
universities,
where
students
possibly
can
get
an
internship,
I
select
view,
and
they
hope
for
a
long
term
position,
or
at
least
a
good
reference
for
their
resume,
and
it's
even
unlike
unenlightened,
businesses
that
recognize
the
value
of
furthering
their
employees.
Education,
TB
CN,
offers
something
very
unique.
L
L
P
I'm
Antonia
McCutcheon
I'm,
the
programming
coordinator
for
a
Tampa,
Bay,
Community,
Network
and
I,
wanted
to
just
give
you
a
different
perspective
of
who
we
are,
and
even
why
we're
more
important?
Yes,
we
do
provide
excellent
training
for
the
community-wide,
our
students
come
in
and
they
get
full-fledged
training
with
hands-on
experience
and
become
producers,
but
that's
not
the
only
thing
that
makes
us
important.
P
The
other
thing
is:
is
we
provide
video
services
to
the
community,
to
businesses,
to
nonprofits
and
to
especially
small
businesses
and
I'm,
going
to
read
you
something
that
I
put
together
a
thriving
community
is
one
that
has
an
effective
communication
base.
Tv
CNN
helps
build
the
core
strength
of
the
community
through
the
production
and
distribution
of
videos,
because,
as
statistics
and
trends
have
shown
us,
video
owns
the
Internet
and
the
world
at
any
given
moment.
P
80
percent
of
all
traffic
on
the
Internet
is
video
and
by
2022,
that
percentage
is
expected
to
rise
to
almost
85
person.
Video
is
an
extremely
powerful
medium
and
studies
have
shown
that
a
community
that
effectively
uses
video
becomes
stronger
economically
and
socially.
Did
you
know
that
businesses
who
use
video
and
their
marketing
repertoire
grow
50%
faster
than
businesses,
who
don't
TBS
and
wants
to
continue
being
that
organization
that
provides
Tampa
Bay
with
all
their
video
needs,
because
video
production
and
video
marketing
is
no
longer
a
luxury
but
a
necessity?
P
We
are
not
just
a
television
station.
We
are
everything
video,
especially
internet
video,
I,
myself
am
an
Internet
video
specialist.
The
community
needs
us
small
businesses,
nonprofits
individuals,
they
need
us.
Please
don't
allow
one
of
the
most
important
resources
in
the
community
to
go
away.
We
would
only
be
going
backwards.
Thank
you.
So
much.
E
N
Good
evening
City
Council,
my
name
is
fran
tate
and
I
resided
3405
clay
street
in
the
district
of
five.
I
am
the
president
of
the
Jackson
Heights
neighborhood
association
and
Crimewatch.
We
like
to
thank
you
for
listening
to
us
this
evening
and
sharing
our.
We
would
like
to
thank
you
for
listening
to
us
this
evening.
We
appreciate
your
unwavering
efforts
to
address
our
knees
and
make
provisions
need
number
one.
It
is
imperative
that
our
24-hour
rescue
units
be
stationed
in
East
Tampa.
N
N
We
are
sure
if
one
was
located
24
hours
in
East
Tampa
that
will
cut
down
on
response
of
8
minutes
and
30
seconds.
We're
talking
life
saving
time.
Time
is
of
essence
when
it's
when
it's
meant
to
save
the
life.
I'm
sorry
lead
number
two.
As
a
responsible
citizen,
we
are
charged
with
making
provisions
for
our
seniors
and
our
children,
our
city
as
it
moves
forward
as
it
advances
we
are
in
desperate
need
of
a
multicultural
or
a
community
center.
N
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it
we're
in
desperate
need
of
that
in
East
Tampa,
this
Center
will
provide
ample
space
for
our
seniors
and
our
children
will
be
able
to
organize
and
participate
in
organized
daily
activities
such
as
mrs.
Bell,
static,
aerobics,
shuffleboard
on
sewing
classes,
arts
and
crafts
for
the
seniors
and
for
our
children.
S
Government
is
already
well
served
by
departments
such
as
Tampa
Zone,
CT
TV,
but
the
voice
of
the
public
and
education
is
endangered
if
TBC,
N
and
T
BAE
are
not
supported.
Well,
it
might
seem
quaint
to
think
that
something
like
public
access,
still
exists
or
is
needed.
I
assure
you
it
is.
There
are
segments
of
our
city
that
are
stratified,
satisfied
economically
or
of
a
certain
age
where
new
technologies,
like
YouTube,
become
intimidating
and
thus
preventive.
S
Today,
if
you
are
a
Hillsborough
County
residents,
you
can
take
these
training
classes
free
of
charge
thanks
to
this
fund
provided
by
the
county.
Unfortunately,
that
only
services
a
small
segment
of
the
population
and
they
are
not
able
to
continue
their
good
work
without
additional
funding.
That
funding
would
also
help
propel
both
organizations
well
into
the
future
and
help
them
modernize
their
technology
to
adapt
to
more
immediate
needs
of
our
citizens.
S
I
My
name
is
Cynthia
view:
I
reside
at
4506,
north
29th,
Street,
Tampa
and
I
have
lived
in
Tampa
for
71
years
and
I
appreciate
that
I
was
afforded
activities
and
a
place
to
go
after
school
or
after
we
got
out
of
school.
We
always
were
able
to
either
go
to
South
Florida
for
activities
or
we
went
on
field
trips,
but
we
don't
have
anywhere
in
East
Tampa
right
now
that
afford
our
children
the
same
activities-
and
this
is
what
bringing
a
multicultural
building
to
East
Tampa
would
do
for
our
young
people.
I
It
would
keep
them
off
the
street.
It
would
give
them
something
positive
to
do
with
their
lives
and
then
maybe
they
would
make
it
to
71.
I
also
believe
that
we
pay
taxes
and
our
taxes
should
afford
US
a
emergency
vehicle
that
is
full-time
not
part
time.
Since
we
pay
taxes
when
we
are
assessed
them,
we
need
the
services.
I
have
a
nephew
who
has
seizures.
If
he
doesn't
get
the
necessary
health
benefits,
then
he
will
not
live
so
we
need
the
emergency
vehicle.
I
A
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
mr.
O'hara
just
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
of
clarification
and
I
think
you
spoke
to
it
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
I
want
to
wanted
some
more
detail.
I
know
this
is
not
the
CRA
and
we're
not
we're
not
headed
there,
but
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
make
an
assumption,
let's
say
assuming
the
CRA
approves
of
$1,000,000
toward
the
the
East
Tampa
rec
center.
E
That
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is
both
millions.
Two
million
would
be
appropriated
in
fiscal
year
twenty
once
we
get
approval
tonight
again
at
the
first
meeting
in
October,
we'll
bring
your
resolution
appropriating
community
investment
tax.
The
amount
of
a
million
dollars
as
soon
as
the
CRA
board
takes
an
action
that
we
can
act
upon,
we'll
bring
you
another
resolution,
appropriating
that
funding
to
the
same
to
the
same
project.
So
you'll
have
a
total
of
two
million
dollars
in
that
project
from
two
different
funding
sources:
okay,.
J
And
then
so
that's
this
doesn't
have
a
discrete
name.
It
says
the
East
Tampa
new
East,
Tampa,
rec
center
or
or
they're
laying
a
good
Center
or.
E
K
Don't
know
where
we're
gonna
go
on
any
of
this,
but
one
thing
I
think
we
need
to
do
next
time.
We
talk
about
changing
that
process.
I
hope
that
through
our
public
engagement
process,
starting
in
April
that
we'll
get
more
of
this
earlier
instead
of
later
I
wish,
we
had
had
all
these
conversations.
The
last
meeting
instead
of
this
meeting
number
two,
is
I'm
in
favor
of
all
of
the
things
that
people
want.
K
Harrow
has
explained
to
us
that
the
bond
when
we're
looking
for
the
body
agencies,
credit
rating
agencies
are,
are
expecting
that
we're
going
to
be
consistent
and-
and
so
my
fear
is
that
we
go
into
a
recession
in
the
next
couple
years
and
two
three
years
from
now.
We
don't
have
the
money
to
cover
basic
services
and
we
can't
pull.
We
can't
pull
down
those,
we
can't
pull
down
the
reserves
that
are
tied
to
bonds,
because
that
will
affect
our
ratings
and
our
interest
rates
on
those.
K
We
also
can't
it
sounds
like
we
also
cannot
pull
down
this
general
fund
reserve
because
that
will
affect
our
ratings
as
well.
So
whatever
we
put
into
the
into
this
account
now
above
the
23%-
or
this
is
I-
think
keeping
us
even
with
23%,
whatever
we
put
in
is
going
to
help
us
to
cover
basic
services
when
the
revenues
are
going
down
potentially
in
a
couple
years
and
I
think
we
have
to
fiercely
defend
that.
We
can't
do
the
same
thing.
K
The
last
mayor
did
and
and
spend
all
the
money,
so
what
I
would
suggest
is,
if
any
of
you
want
to
propose
that
we
fund
any
of
these
things.
I
think
they're
all
great
things,
but
if
you
want
to
propose
something
police
tell
us
where
we're
going
to
cut
or
work
with
staff
to
figure
out
where
we're
going
to
cut,
because
I
don't
think
we
can
pull
down
the
general
fund
reserve
anymore.
A
G
Gentlemen,
you
saw
tonight,
you
saw
five
different
Association
presidents
here
so
Jackson
High
came
up,
you
saw
College
Hill,
you
saw
Highland
Pines
I,
see
the
Fair
Oaks
coupe
is
back
there
in
the
back,
which
someone
tried
to
pick
my
communities
against
one
another
for
my
community
center,
which
that
didn't
work
they're
here
they
said
what
they
wanted.
They
told
me
what
they
wanted.
It
was
my
job
to
deliver.
However,
I
could
deliver
it.
It
was
my
job
to
bring
it
to
this
board
about
that
community
center
I'm,
not
Dolph,
I'm
a
praying
type
person.
G
It's
going
to
happen.
Okay,
I
was
gonna,
God's
gonna,
give
us
a
blessing,
we're
gonna,
get
that
Center
fire
senior
saving
one
for
years
and
then
ask
you
so
I,
don't
really
care
about
him
about
the
reserves.
I
respect
what
everyone
is
saying
about
reserve
ratings,
but
you
know
when
it
comes
to
a
certain
section.
If
this
was
downtown
it
just
was
channel
sizes
or
anyplace
else.
We
weren't
all
about
reserves.
We
would
try
to
make
a
way
to
fund.
We
talked
about
an
ambulance
service
there.
Here
you
heard
the
concerns.
My
concern
deeply.
G
That's
not
my
check,
so
I
don't
understand
that
I
really
don't.
But
what
I
do
understand
is
this:
they
don't
really
care
about
a
brand-new
unit
when
I
already
got
to
peak
units
running
tenth
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
unit
could
go
to
pay
for
those
employees
to
work.
The
two
units
you
already
have
is
a
peak
unit
for
a
full-time
unit
that
makes
common
sense
to
me
until
we
can
afford
to
get
in
next
budget
eight
unit,
because
all
you
did
was
you
you,
you
you're
allocated
dollars
to
replace
humans.
G
I
need
you
to
replace
the
unit
for
16
I.
Need
you
there
going
those
peak
use.
You
got
there
running
50
and
51.
Put
those
back
in
service
at
6:00
team.
Take
that
money
that
you're
talking
about
buying
that
one
rescue
car
don't
buy,
that
rescue
car
put
that
for
salaries
to
get
that
unit
as
a
full-time
for
the
people.
These
Tampa,
that's
where
the
money
can
come
from
istic
officer
to
me.
That's
a
fix
to
me.
That's
a
fix!
It's
a
service.
G
So
when
it's
time
for
motions
I'm
gonna
make
my
motion
later
on.
I
reserve
my
right
for
everybody
else,
but
I
just
think
that
there
is
a
way
a
way.
There's
a
will.
We
can
get
it
done.
This
council
can
do
it,
I
mean.
A
A
For
that,
so
I,
don't
think
the
issue
are
the
needs
of
Eastham
for
North
Tampa
resource
out-tan
for
North
Tampa
cetera.
The
issue
is
how
we're
gonna
pay
for
it.
That's
what
I
really
public
safety
is,
is
number
one
but
mathematics
and
getting
to
those
dollars
that
pay
for
Public
Safety
is
very
important.
So
it's
one
thing
to
propose
an
idea.
A
It's
another
thing
to
talk
about
how
to
pay
for
it
when
it
comes
to
paying
for
anything
just
flippantly
out
of
the
out
of
the
out
of
the
reserved
a
perfect
example
or
early
on
in
this
budget
process.
There
were
numerous
requests
that
I
made.
One
of
them
was
for
an
autism,
sensory
friendly
Park
that
was
gonna
cost
several
million
dollars,
something
that,
if
you're
raising
a
child
with
special
needs,
it's
an
e,
it's
a
real
need.
A
That
was
something
that
wasn't
in
this
budget
as
proposed
by
the
administration,
or
look
forward
to
engaging
on
that
next
year.
But
I'm
not
gonna,
push
that
forward
this
year
in
Co:
hey,
listen,
let's
just
you
know,
take
it
out
of
the
reserves,
etc.
We're
gonna
find
a
way
into
feature
how
to
take
care
of
that,
but
if
I
were
to
I'd
want
to
have
mathematics
that
adds
up
on
that
proposal,
and
that's
all
I'm
looking
for
here
tonight
is
for
fiscal
responsibility
is
to
come
to
that.
A
K
E
Separate
and
apart,
if,
if
I
may,
let
me
back
up
for
just
a
second
the
peak
scenario,
wherein
we
provide
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
compensation
and
benefits,
and
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
an
asset,
still
maintains
the
balanced
general
fund
budget
that
you've
been
presented
with,
while
pulling
additional
resources
from
the
community
investment
tax.
The
full
time
scenario
would
imbalance
the
general
fund
budget
that
you've
been
presented,
while
taking
again
from
the
community
investment
tax
for
the
asset
for
the
rescue
vehicle.
So
the
peak
unit
can
be
contained
within
the
budget.
K
K
Mr.
Vieira
talked
about
what
he
asked
for
I
asked
for
nothing,
except
for
the
mayor
to
put
in
the
general
fund
reserve
and
if
we
don't
at
least
do
that
I
think
we're
being
fiscally
reckless
again
and
what
we
need
to
do
is
look
systemically
at
the
services
throughout
the
city.
There's
money
that
I
believe
was
wasted
and
purchasing
and
things
like
12
million
dollar
boat
houses.
I
mean
just
stupid
things
that
money
was
spent
on
the
new
administration
is
going
through.
K
Looking
all
these
line
items
look
in
all
the
budgets
where
more
carefully
looking
at
it
I
think
we
we
all
partly
inherited
this
budget.
We've
got
we've
all
committed,
as
mr.
Vieira
said,
to
support
East
Tampa
I
asked
for
nothing
so
that
we
could
focus
more
energy
on
East
Ham,
but
we've
put
a
million
dollars.
We're
proposing
put
another
million
I'm
committed
to
focusing
a
lot
of
energy.
It's
not
my
district,
but
I'm
I'm
I'm
interested
in
focusing
a
lot
of
efforts
in
in
that
area.
K
But
the
only
thing
I
ask
is:
let's
not
erode
our
general
fund
reserve,
because
we
desperately
need
that
if
we
get
into
two
years
from
now
and
we're
cutting
basic
services
if
we're
cutting
back
even
from
where
we
are
now
in
these
basic
sources.
We're
gonna
hear
three
hundred
people
complaining
in
this
audience,
and
so
we
need
to
be
fiscally
responsible.
So
what
is
it
that
we
want
to
cut.
E
If
it
may
also
offer
a
clarification,
just
so
there's
been
absolutely
no
misunderstanding:
I
live
and
breathe
this
stuff
and
I
don't
want
to
take
it
for
granted
that
everybody
else
does
to
the
East
Tampa
cultural
center
does
not
impact
the
balanced
budget
that
you've
been
presented
either.
Both
those
funding
sources
are
non
general
fund,
the
community
investment
tax
and
potential
funding
source
from
the
CRA.
Okay.
Thank.
O
Then
we'll
take
a
break
go
ahead,
sir,
but
just
some
general
comments.
I've
been
quiet,
you
know
Phil
last
few
hours,
but
first
mr.
Bennett
you've
been
wonderful
in
communicating
your
accessible.
You
you
answer
right
away.
You
call
back
right
away.
Same
goes
for
mayor
caster,
I
said
before
we
became
we
began
this
meeting
tonight
because
I
spoke
with
her
today.
I
said:
I've,
never
thought
Buckland
was
very
nice
with
me.
No,
you
know
it
was
a.
O
He
was
a
very
kind
man
in
that
regard,
but
Castro's
on
top
of
things
non-stop,
always
communicating
always
asking
what
I
think
how
I
feel
any
other
ideas.
I
mean
she's
very
much
engaged
and
I
appreciate
that
looking
at
this
budget,
my
biggest
thing
was
the
swimming
pools
and
the
price
tag
for
one
came
in
at
almost
four
million
dollars
for
a
brand
new
ad,
a
compliant
facility,
state-of-the-art
new,
you
know
done
the
right
way
in
the
budget.
O
They
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
study,
not
just
the
Seminole
Heights
pool,
but
the
one
in
West
Ambler.
So
it's
a
start.
We
have
the
conversation
going,
so
we
can
make
sure
we
look
at
all
sources
of
funding
to
get
that
done
and
I
appreciate
that
I
asked
for
some
roads
to
be
repaved.
Specifically
in
Westham
gone,
the
administration
responded.
They
help
prioritize
some
of
those
rows
that
are
very
badly
needed.
One.
I
O
T
O
A
road
paving
and
you
delivered
East
Tampa
in
this
community
center
called
Multicultural
Center
I've
heard
the
jazzy
singing
seniors
come
year
after
year.
Asking-
and
you
know
the
action
was
taken
this
year
with
the
leadership
of
councilman
goos
and
supported
this
council
at
almost,
we
have
a
million
dollars
tonight
and
then
you
know
we
we
assume
with
the
CRA
another
million
dollars.
That's
a
huge
win
again.
You
responded
we're
talking
about
the
rescue
vehicle.
It
may
not
be
perfect,
but
again
you
responded.
You're
here.
O
O
Everything
I
wanted,
not
the
four
million
dollar
pool
whatever
I
have
to
be
reasonable,
but
you're
you're
doing
the
best
that
you
can
and
and
I
think
we're
being
fiscally
responsible.
Looking
at
especially
I
mean
a
million
dollars.
You
know
we
made
the
motion
and
it
was
supported.
That's
a
huge
investment,
so
I'm,
you
know
I'm
happy
to
support
this
budget.
I'll
see
what
happens
after
this
break,
but
I
mean
you.
You
guys
are
going
above
and
beyond.
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
to
say.
So
that's
a
thing.
Mr.
Shelby,
yes,.
S
In
Council,
just
before
you
take
your
recess,
I
know.
Council
knows
this,
but
I'm
also
saying
this
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
This
recess
is
for
you
to
discuss
individually
that
the
sunshine
laws
does
apply.
This
is
a
public
meeting.
Anything
that
you
discuss
cannot
be
with
other
council
members
or
in
the
presence
of
other
council
members
related
to
city
business.
I,
know,
council
knows
that
I'm
asking
for
the
public
to
be
aware
of
that.
As.