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A
B
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
attendees
and
participants
and
welcome
to
the
september
13th
meeting
of
the
city
of
tampa
variance
review
board
from
my
left
to
the
members
of
the
board
are.
B
And
aaron
murphy
and
we
are-
we
are
excited
to
have
ms
wallrap
joining
the
board
as
our
resident
architect.
Yes,
so
welcome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
glad
to
be
here
also
in
attendance
this
evening
from
legal.
We
have
susan
johnson
velez.
We
have
from
development
coordination.
We
have
jane
madue
and
mary
torres
from
tavares
right.
Sorry
about
that,
from
natural
resources
we
have
steven
eister
and
from
transportation.
B
We
have
jonathan
scott
there's
some
procedural
rules
that
we
will
ask
you
to
follow
this
evening
when
your
case
and
petitioner's
name
is
called.
Please
approach
the
podium
when
you
approach
the
podium.
Please
state
your
name,
your
address,
and
if
you
have
been
sworn
you're
going
to
hear
me
say
this
a
lot.
Everybody
forgets
to
state
that
they
have
been
sworn
so
when
you
come
up
state
your
name,
your
address
and
confirm
for
us
that
you've
been
sworn
the
petitioner
and
or
their
agent
will
have
10
minutes
to
make
a
presentation.
B
B
Any
information,
such
as
pictures
or
plans
that
have
not
been
previously
submitted
as
part
of
your
petition
and
that
you
intend
to
present
at
this
hearing
for
consideration
in
support
of
your
petition
must
be
individually
individually,
presented
and
accepted
by
the
board.
After
acceptance
by
the
board,
you
must
submit
the
item
to
staff
for
it
to
be
entered
and
made
part
of
the
permanent
record.
B
B
The
variance
granted
by
the
board
will
be
only
for
what
is
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
will
be
in
compliance
with
any
terms
and
conditions
stated
in
the
approval
by
the
board.
All
other
city
codes
will
need
to
be
met
if
the
case
is
approved,
your
variance
will
expire
two
years
from
the
date
of
the
decision.
If
the
case
is
continued,
it
will
be
continued
to
either
the
next
month's
vrb
board
agenda
or
the
next
available
position
on
an
upcoming
vrb
board
agenda.
B
If
the
case
is
denied,
you
may
wish
to
have
the
variance
review
board's
decision
reviewed
by
the
city
council.
You
must
file
a
petition
for
review
of
the
board's
decision
within
14
days
of
the
written
decision.
You
will
not
be
able
to
pull
any
permits
until
after
14
days
of
review
period
has
passed.
Your
cooperation
in
ensuring
that
this
meeting
is
run
smoothly
is
greatly
appreciated.
D
B
Any
opposed
great
minutes
have
been
approved
at
this
time.
I
will
ask
legal
staff
to
confirm
whether
there
are
any
ex
parte
communications
or
conflicts.
Thank.
E
E
B
D
B
All
right,
then,
at
this
time
I
would
ask
a
staff
member
to
conduct
the
swearing-in
for
the
members
of
the
audience.
If
you
plan
to
speak
tonight,
if
there's
a
chance,
you
might
speak
tonight
if
there's
a
possibility
that
you
might
need
to
contribute
or
speak
about
a
petition
this
evening.
Please
stand
and
be
sworn
so
that
we
don't
have
to
do
this
later
on.
When
you
decide
you
need
to
be
sworn.
F
F
This
is
an
aerial
showing
the
subject
property
in
the
highlight,
highlighted
dash.
It
is
in
the
central
tampa
planning
district,
it's
an
interior
lot.
It
is
zoned
rs60.
F
This
was
reviewed
by
right
away
and
found
consistent
with
no
comments,
natural
resources
reviewed
and
had
the
following
comments.
Natural
resources
has
reviewed
the
above
reference
project
with
respect
to
landscape
and
tree
removal
and
site
clearing
regulations
of
chapter
27..
F
Natural
resources
finds
the
vrb
site
plan
consistent
with
conditions
to
move
the
pool
outside
the
protective
radius
of
the
two
live
oaks
in
the
rear
in
the
rare
yard
would
lead
to
over
70
percent
reduction
of
the
pool
size.
The
proposed
plan
does
remove
the
c8
grand
life
oak,
but
leaves
ample
space
for
the
24-inch
live
oak.
To
continue
to
grow.
The
ground
tree
would
have
to
be
mitigated
in
accordance
with
the
tree
table.
At
the
time
of
construction,
transportation
review
was
not
required.
B
Thank
you,
miss
madhu.
I
do
have
a
question
for
legal,
miss
johnson
feliz.
We
have,
I
cannot
recall
ever
doing
a
tree
removal
variants
for
a
pool.
Can
you
tell
us
if
it
is
reviewed
in
exactly
the
same
manner
as
with
a
home.
E
Well,
I'll,
let
them,
if
I
could
susan
johnsonville's
legal
department,
I,
since
staff
reviewed
the
fair
enough.
B
E
G
Hello
steven
eiser
with
natural
resources
there
have
been
variances
for
pools.
G
G
G
B
Resources,
I
appreciate
that
I
was
really
just
asking
if,
if
we
need
to
review
this
in
the
same
fashion
under
the
rule
as
we
would
other
properties
which
you
told
us
is
very
helpful,
but
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
the
rule
is
applied
in
the
same
fashion
to
a
pool
as
it
would
be
to
a
to
a
home
or
a
different
structure.
G
I
think
that's
really
up
to
your
guys's
overall
decision
for
grand
tree.
What
they
need
to
do
is
show
their
reconfiguration
of
plans.
If
you
guys
don't
like
that
or
you
don't
like
the
idea
of
the
pool,
that's
up
to
your
guys's
decision,
I
can't
std
staff
deny
their
rights
to
a
pool.
F
B
D
B
H
Good
evening
board
members,
my
name
is
eric
hughes
property
address
is
427,
erie
avenue
and
I
have
been
sworn
in.
I
was
going
to
keep
this
brief.
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add
to
the
presentation.
I
feel
like
it's
pretty
straightforward,
a
few
things
I
did
want
to
point
out
and
to
answer
your
question.
Yes,
it
is
a
new
home
under
construction
not
yet
completed
so
midway
through
construction.
H
When
the
you
know-
and
I
wanted
to
point
out-
you
know
where
I'm
coming
from
too.
As
a
builder,
I've
I've
had
my
home
building
business
for
six
years,
and
I
worked
for
my
father's
company
two
years
prior
and
I've
never
even
applied
for
any
sort
of
variance
for
this
body,
much
less,
not
even
a
tree.
So
this
lot
presented
a
unique
challenge.
H
It's
already
a
narrow
lot,
a
lot's
only
55
feet
wide,
so
you
know
so
you
know
we
have
to
build.
You
know
a
little
deeper
and
the
the
the
oak
in
question
at
the
rear
right
is,
is
set
into
the
property
such
that
you
know
only
the
only
with
the
current
house
plans.
The
only
pools
that
could
be
built
are,
I
believe,
like
nine
feet,
long
or
something
like
that,
which
would
render
them
essentially
not
pools,
unusable.
H
I'd
like
to
note
the
the
side
of
the
property
that
we
proposed.
The
pool
to
go
on
which
would
require
the
tree.
Removal
is
the
right
side.
As
you
know,
the
rear
building
setbacks
in
the
city
are
20
feet.
H
That
side
of
the
home,
the
rear
of
the
home,
is
already
sits
about
58
feet
from
the
rear
property
line,
and
we
still
don't
have
room
for
for
a
pool.
So
the
house
would
have
had
to
been
designed
very,
very,
very
short,
of
the
rear
setback
to
allow
for
a
pool,
in
fact
we're
already
almost
three
times
the
rear
setback
existing
and
we
still
can't
fit
any
sort
of
reasonable
size
pool
and,
as
miss
madhu
mentioned,
pretty
much
every
home
in
the
neighborhood
does
have
a
pool.
B
Tonight,
okay:
does
that
complete
your
presentation
this
evening?
Yes,
all
right!
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening,
all
right,
if
you
can
step
aside
and
let
this
gentleman
come
on
up,
please
state
your
name.
Your
address
confirm
that
you've
been
sworn
and
you
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
I
If
there
were
pools
in
at
every
house
in
the
neighborhood,
I
would
suspect
that
they
may
have
thought
about
putting
a
pool
in
when
they
built
the
house.
I
I'm
just
assuming
you
know
it's
just
that's
just
me,
but
suddenly
the
house
begins
to
be
constructed
and
then
they
decide
that
they
need
a
pool
and
they've
got
to
take
down
a
grand
oak
to
put
the
pool
in
now.
This
sets
a
very
dangerous
precedent
for
grand
oaks
in
the
city
of
tampa.
I
I
Just
because
you're
sick
doesn't
mean
you
get
cut
down
if
these
people
move
into
this
house
and
they
want
to
keep
that
grand
oak
healthy,
they
can
put
time
into
keeping
that
grand
oak
health
healthy.
I
I
oppose
this.
I
oppose
putting
in
a
pool
after
the
fact
when
a
house
gets
started
and
a
grand
oak
comes
down
because
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
has
a
pool.
B
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
anyone
else
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening,
all
right,
seeing
none?
I
will
open
it
up
to
board
members
questions
for
the
petitioner
questions
for
the
audience
member
who
spoke
or
questions
for
city
staff.
J
I
have
a
question
for
the
applicant,
so
the
gentleman
who
spoke
from
the
audience
raised
a
similar
question
to
the
one
that
I
had
written
down,
which
is
so
my
understanding
is
that
your
company
is
the
one
who
you
know
decided
to
construct
this
home.
Did
you
in
tend
to
build
a
pool?
Did
you
consider
building
a
pool.
H
Yeah,
so
we
we
do
not
have
pool
plans
initially
we
and-
and
I'm
glad
you
asked,
because
I
did
want
to
address
that
we
it's
a
it-
is
a
spec
home
for
sale
and
we
do
have
buyers
who
wish
to
put
a
pool
now.
So
that
is
it.
The
intention
was
not,
as
he
stated
you
know,
to
play
foul
and
to
try
to
squeeze
it
in
last
second,
and
and
try
to
show
a
hardship
that
shouldn't
have
been
like.
I
said
you
have
never
seen
me
here
before
previous
board.
H
Members
in
eight
years
have
never
seen
me
here
before.
That's
not
what
I
do,
but
I
also
am
a
home
builder,
so
you
know-
and
I'm
not
being
misleading
by
saying
a
tree
in
this
honest
on
a
lot
like
this
in
so
far
into
the
property
like
that,
does
create
a
unique
challenge
to
design
a
home
with
the
you
know,
amenities
and
the
size
that
you
know
the
buyers
expect
in
this
in
this
neighborhood.
So
does
that
answer
your
question?
It.
D
Oh,
I'm
sorry
the
impervious
unpaved
here.
What's
what's
your
percentage
because
there
is
not
much
other
than
that
area
where
you're
proposing
the
pool.
H
So
without
the
pool
the
existing
permit,
it
looks
like
without
the
pool
we're
at
we're
at
48.6,
impervious
so
with
the
pool
and,
of
course
the
water
area
doesn't
count
towards
the
impervious.
You
know.
If
we
do
go
over,
we
would
have
to
you
know,
install
an
underground
ads
drainage
system,
but
at
without
the
pool
we
are
under
the
50
right
now.
B
So
does
anyone
else
have
questions
before
I
ask
one,
I'm
gonna
ask
a
question
similar
to
what
was
asked
previously.
B
I
mean
if,
if
your
position
is
that
all
the
other
houses
in
this
neighborhood
have
pools,
why
wasn't
that
part
of
the
planning
process
at
the
start?
Why
not
build
a
smaller
house?
And
I
heard
you
talk
about
the
amount
of
setback
that
you
had
the
three
times
the
amount
of
setbacks?
So
if
you
wouldn't
mind
talking
just
a
little
bit
so
that
we
can
understand,
that's
the
question
we're
being
asked.
That's
the
question
that's
being
raised.
Why
not
you're
building
the
house?
B
Why
not
build
a
smaller
house
put
the
pool
in
it
would
fit
with
all
the
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
H
Well,
the
plan,
like
I
said
the
the
the
pool
plan-
was
not
conceived
or
attempted
to
be
permitted
before
we
got
under
contract,
so
I
did
not
plan
for
a
pool
that
is,
I
did
not.
You
know
I.
I
basically
confirmed
with
what
miss
madu
said
or
sorry.
Mr
eister
said
so
I
mean
this.
H
That
was
just
our
plan
beforehand,
this
the
application
here
the
petition
is,
you
know,
I'm
doing
it
at
a
request
of
our
buyers
and
and
and
to
follow
up
on
that,
I
guess
to
fear
to
you
know
to
theorize.
If
it
had
been
planned
out
from
the
beginning,
the
you
know
the
home,
the
original
design
would
have
had
to
be
shrunk
significantly
from
what
it
is
and
significantly
from
what
you
know.
Large
majority
of
other
property
owners
are
given
to
work
with
due
to
how
far
it
is
onto
the
property.
K
H
The
original
home-
I
don't
know
it
was
it-
was
a
typical
davis
island
ranch
home.
So
I'm
going
to
guess
and
say
1500
1800
square
feet.
It
was,
it
was
in
poor.
I
I
would
probably
say
I'd
got
a
peak
in
there
unlivable
condition,
so
it
wasn't
something
that
could
have
been.
It
wasn't
something
that
somebody
was
going
to
buy
to
live
in
there
you're,
probably
familiar
with
that
market.
H
It
it.
I
believe
I
don't
know
if
it
happened
before
or
after
closing,
because
I'm
not
the
owner,
but
I
saw
some
broken
windows.
So
it's
it's
not
something
that
I
don't
think
someone
would
have
thought
to.
You
know,
remodel
and
live
in
there.
I
think
anybody
who
bought
it
would
have
built
a
new
home.
Okay.
H
L
H
May
I
respond
sure,
so
she
did
not
contact
me
about
this.
This
is
my
first
time
reading
this
email,
I
don't
know
her
personally
either
I
will
say-
and
I
do
not
have
a
photograph
of
their
house
at
the
ready,
but
they,
I
believe
recently
within
the
last
few
recent
years,
constructed
their
own
very
large,
new
home
on
their
property,
which
I
don't
think
they
would
have
been
able
to
do
if
they
had
a
tree.
H
You
know
in
the
you
know
in
the
same
area,
and
I
think
she,
you
know
present
some
color
here.
She
she
quote
as
more
and
more
homes
are
torn
down
willy
nilly
on
davis
island
to
build
expensive,
quote
spec
homes
with
high
square
footage,
and
it
goes
on
to
say
they
either
bought
an
empty
lot
or
did
the
exact
same
thing
for
themselves.
So
I
think
that's
an
unfair
characterization
of
what
we're
doing
a
little
hypocritical.
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
the
board
for
anyone
nope
all
right.
Well,
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
address
any
questions
that
were
raised
or
say
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
say.
H
H
As
a
you
know,
I
build
custom
homes
in
spec
homes.
You
know
when
I,
when
I
look
at
properties
to
build
spec
homes
as
this
is
the
case.
You
know
if
there
is
too
extreme
a
situation
with
the
tree.
I
often
pass
on
the
lot.
You
know
I
don't
go
in
and
for
a
fight.
H
The
timeline
of
of
the
house,
design,
construction,
contract,
etc.
Pool
came
to
be
is
exactly
as
I
described
it
and
you
know
this.
You
know
I
do
want.
We
are
keeping
the
24-inch
live
oak
at
the
back
left
and
that's
that
is
really
all.
I
have
to
conclude.
B
D
I
can
sympathize
with
your
plight,
but
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
it.
You
started
out
with
an
empty
lot
and
a
home
that
you
designed
for
it
and
just
because
I
wouldn't
say
all
of
the
houses
have
pools
some
of
them
do,
but
they
also
might
not
be
5
365
square
feet
of
house
on
a
lot
this
size.
I
just
don't
see
a
lot
of
open
area
on
it.
I
know
you've
given
me
the
percentages
but
you're
going
to
have
to
go
to
some
heroics.
D
B
J
I
don't
have
a
motion
to
make,
but
I
do
have
a
couple
sort
of
thoughts,
because
I
think
this
one
might
be
not.
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
have.
You
know
a
unanimous
decision
here.
So
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
criteria
that
we
have
to
look
at
it.
J
I'm
sort
of
thinking
of
this
as
kind
of
a
hybrid
I'm,
considering
both
the
hardship
criteria
for
a
typical
variance,
but
also
the
criteria
that
you
know
for
removal
of
a
grand
tree,
because
this
isn't,
you
know,
doesn't
quite
fall
into
the
grand
tree
removal,
but
it
also
doesn't
quite
fall
into
the
variance
criteria
that
we
have.
So
you
know
with
respect
to
the
the
grand
tree
removal
factors.
J
I
do
think
that
you
have
technically
met
a
lot
of
the
factors.
For
example,
you
have
presented
a
survey
that
shows
you
know
the
area
of
the
tree.
You've
presented
alternative
design
methods,
although
you
know,
as
was
pointed
out,
you
know,
perhaps
if
this
pool
had
been
considered
when
the
house
was
first
constructed
that
alternative
design
methods
could
have
potentially
saved
the
tree,
I
don't
see
that
there
are
any
alternative
construction
methods
that
can
be
used,
and
you
know,
looking
at
the
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
is,
is
somewhat
informative.
J
As
to
you
know,
one
of
the
factors
that
we
have
to
consider
the
development
pattern
of
accessory
buildings
and
structures
within
the
the
same.
You
know
an
approximate
radius
of
this
house.
You
know,
on
the
other
hand,
as
far
as
the
hardship
criteria
is
concerned,
you
did
note
that
this
was
a
particularly
narrow
lot.
It's
owned
rs60,
but
it's
only
55
feet
wide.
So
you
know
the
house.
J
There
is
some
practical
difficulties
that
are,
you
know,
unique
to
this
property.
Now
that
said,
yeah
again,
as
was
pointed
out
it,
it
does
appear
that
there
are
some
actions
on
the
applicant
that
have
you
know,
self-created
this
hardship.
So
I
so
I'm
on
the
fence,
although
I
am
tending
to
lean
in
favor
of
permitting
this
grant
tree
removal,
but
I'm
interested
in
what
the
rest
of
the
board
thinks.
B
Okay,
did
you
have
a
comment
or
you
want
to
make
a
motion?
I
saw
you
take
out
a
folder.
That's
why
I
ask
I
I
will.
I
will
comment
similar
to
yours,
that
it
it
this
is
challenging.
I've
never
seen.
I
know
that
we
may
have
had
in
the
past
variants
removals
tree
removals
for
for
pools,
but
I've
never
seen
one
and
it's
it's
particularly
challenging,
because,
while
I
understand
the
timeline
that's
been
presented,
don't
know
that
that
really
throws
a
tremendous
amount
of
relevance
to
me.
B
The
challenge
that
I
see
is
that
I
agree
that
when
you
try
and
fit
these
factors
around
the
facts
in
front
of
us
they
fit,
but
the
overriding
concern
I
have
is
that
a
pool
is
not
a
right
and
should
we
allow
someone
to
build
a
brand
new
house
and
then
have
a
pool
and
and
that's
the
piece
that
challenges
me,
because
I
do
see
that
the
criteria
in
front
of
us
can
fit
and
can
say
yup
it
all
fits
the
problem.
Is
you
know
it?
D
D
B
And
the
the
issue
that
I'm
facing
here
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
is
the
criteria
for
our
review
on.
True
removal
doesn't
really
doesn't
really
include
self-imposed
hardships
or
self-created
hardships.
They.
B
No,
I
agree
with
you,
but
I'm
looking
at
the
criteria,
the
code
criteria
for
for
for
tree
removals.
That's
a
relatively
new
criteria.
Okay,
and
so
the
question
is:
does
this
quite
and
that's
that's
the
question
I
asked
off
the
bat
to
staff
was:
does
this
criteria
apply
when
we're
talking
simply
about
building
pool
and
as
I
understand
it,
it
does
and
if
that's,
if
that's
what
we
are
faced
with,
the
question
is:
how
do
we
apply
it?
B
D
D
B
D
B
So
we
have,
we
have
a
3-3
tie,
which
means
we
have
a
continuance.
B
Majority
is
required
to
approve
to
approve
a
petition,
so
we
don't
have
a
majority.
We
have
a
three
or
three
tie.
I
think
it
gets.
E
B
A
E
E
B
E
B
Question
is
this:
is
there
time
on
the
net
on
the
october
vrb,
or
does
it
need
to
go
to
a
later?
One
snap
is
checking
yup,
that's
all
right.
B
Okay,
so
it's
by
by
rule
the
the
tie
automatically
gets
continued
to
the
october.
What's
the
date
october,
11
october,
11th,
okay,
so
by
rule
you
automatically
continue
to
the
october
11th
hearing
date.
At
that
time
you
can
present
new
evidence
to
us
to
help
us
make
a
decision.
You
can
try
and
work
issues
through
with
city
with
neighbors
to
see
if
you
can
resolve
some
of
the
neighbor
concerns,
but
either
way
we'll
see
you
next
month.
B
F
I
have
passed
out
additional
oppositional
letters
that
we
received
between
yesterday
and
today.
So
I
think
there
are
about
12
more.
B
Miss
miss
johnson
velez.
Would
you
like
us
to
wait
for
the
applicant
to
return?
Okay,
we
will.
We
will
wait.
F
F
All
right,
the
next
case
before
the
board
is
brb
2270.
F
F
And
this
is
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
put
forward
for
the
proposed
new
home
on
the
structure
and
they
have
provided
two
alternative
plans
showing
reasonable
reconfiguration
and
those
are
the
two
site
plans
that
they
provided.
This
was
reviewed
by
natural
resources,
transportation
and
right-of-way
right.
We
had
no
comments.
F
Natural
resources
had
a
memo
that
was
included
in
the
staff
report
and
transportation
had
no
comments
they
have
they
had.
They
went
through
a
formal
decision
to
prove
that
they
are
illegal,
non-conforming
law,
because
the
loss
is
50
foot
wide,
as
opposed
to
60
for
the
rs-60
zoning
district
and
they
have
a
residential
demolition
permit
as
well.
F
F
B
B
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
mark
mobley.
My
address
is
711
west
swann
avenue.
I
have
been
sworn
in
prior
to
starting
my
presentation.
I
wanted
to
submit
this
package
into
the
record.
M
And
do
we
have
the
elmo
working.
B
It
should
be
working
just
a
button
push
away
there,
you
go
look
at
that.
All
right,
awesome
get
that
got
it
right,
set
up
and
everything.
B
M
Work
all
right
well
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
or
to
apply
for
grand
tree
removal
at
3122,
west
san
jose
street.
M
The
property
is
in
palmystia
neighborhood,
it's
a
50
by
100
corner
lot,
where
the
original
home
was
from
1941
located
on
the
property,
and
here
I've
got
a
picture
here
of
the
original
survey
noted
here
on
the
survey
there's
several
trees
on
the
property,
there's
three
specimen
trees
and
two
non-specimen
trees.
The
specimen
trees
are
a
b6
28
incher
up
in
the
front
by
the
right
away.
There's
another
b6
24
incher
in
the
back
right
corner.
M
There's
a
tree
we're
talking
about
application
for
removal
here,
which
is
a
43
inch
tree,
and
then
you've
got
a
c8
tree
here
and
a
c8
tree
on
the
other
side.
Over
here.
This
right
away
tree
is
okay.
This
tree
is
borderline
hazard.
M
The
current
tree
is
just
outside
of
the
tree
removal
zone
had
the
tree
been
moved
or
been
over
eight
inches,
or
so
we
would
have
been
in
the
tree
removal
zone.
We
would
have
been
allowed
to
remove
the
tree
by
right
without
going
through
a
variance,
but
since
it's
you
know
about
this
far
outside
of
where
it
needs
to
be
to
be
in
the
tree
removal
zone,
you
know
you
have
to
go
through
the
variance
review
process
and
get
approval
for
the
tree
to
be
removed.
M
I
have
some
pictures
here
showing
the
various
trees
on
the
lot
you've
got.
This
is
the
front
of
the
property
in
the
old
home
that
was
there.
It
was
about
a
1050
square
foot
home.
This
is
one
of
the
trees
in
the
front
that
we're
trying
to
preserve
it's
a
b6.
M
We've
got
there's
a
picture
here.
Kind
of
the
side
of
the
of
the
property
doesn't
show
the
trees
that
well.
But
what
does
start
to
show
is
this
is
an
old
1940s
home.
You
know
so.
Eight
foot
ceilings
not
very
high
pitch
and
you
can
start
to
see
how
the
canopy
is
over
top
of
this
house
from
the
various
trees,
in
particular
the
one
that
here
is
in
question.
The
spread
on
the
tree
that
we're
looking
at
is
57
to
66
feet
based
on
the
tree
report
that
we
loaded
into
the
file.
M
This
is
a
picture
of
the
property
after
the
lot's
been
home
was
cleared
off
a
lot.
You
can
better
see
the
tree
in
question
that
we're
talking
about
here
these
branches
here,
the
canopy
that's
starting
to
spread
over.
So
if
you
go
you're
really
limited
going
two-story
without
getting
into
the
canopy
of
the
tree
and
you've
also
got
power
lines
running
through
the
tree.
So
at
some
point
the
power
the
tree
limbs
start
to
interfere
with
the
power
lines
and,
as
you
know,
tico
has
the
right
to
come
out
and
trim
the
trees.
M
So
if
we
were
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
build
around
the
tree,
we'd
be
likely
looking
at
removing
some
of
these
limbs,
and
then
you
know
if
tico
comes
out
most
the
tree
gets
gets,
gets
chopped
off,
which
they
unfortunately
do
seem
to
do
quite
a
bit.
Lately,
there's
another
picture
of
the
tree
from
the
side.
There's
the
tree
in
question:
we're
applying
for
removal,
it's
kind
of
got
a
v
base
in
it,
and
then
we've
got
the
tree.
M
One
of
the
preservation
trees
back
here
in
the
back
corner
of
the
lot
that
we're
trying
to
keep,
because
it's
really
out
of
the
build
of
the
footprint
and
wouldn't
impact
anything
in
the
future,
such
as
a
pool.
M
Our
proposed
structure,
you
know-
or
I
guess
before
I
get
into
that
you
know
hardship-
is
that
most
lots
in
this
neighborhood
don't
have
three
or
four
trees
that
you've
got
to
maneuver
around
a
lot
of
the
lots
will
have
one
or
two,
and
you
can
kind
of
work
your
plan
around
that
and
make
them
fit,
and
I'll
get
later
in
my
presentation
to
show
you
how
I've
done
that
on
multiple
occasions
in
this
neighborhood
this
particular
lot,
just
because
of
the
number
of
trees
that
are
on
it
and
the
preservation
quality
of
some
of
the
trees
and
the
low
canopy
really
make
it
difficult
to
design
around
the
trees.
M
Our
footprint
that
we're
trying
to
develop
on
this
lot
is
a
36
by
60
foot
square,
which
is
what
most
of
the
new
homes
are
in
the
neighborhood
on
these
tight
lots,
because
people
are
wanting
additional
square
footage
and
even
if
you
go
to
a
2700
square
foot
home,
the
footprint
is
still
kind
of
the
same.
M
This
home,
this
neighborhood
has
a
mix
of
mediterranean
and
traditional
houses.
Our
plans
to
put
in
a
mediterranean
home.
We
want
to
utilize
the
front
porch
rule
that's
been
enacted
in
the
code
for
several
years
now,
because
people
in
the
neighborhood
tend
to
live
more
out
of
the
front
of
their
homes,
with
the
small
backyards,
there's
a
lot
of
neighborhood
interaction.
M
I
also
lived
in
this
neighborhood
for
10
years,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
opinions
about
the
neighborhood.
I've
also
built
a
lot
of
houses
there
and
you
know,
had
great
customers-
and
you
know,
frankly,
my
wife
and
I
wish
we
would
have
not
moved
out
of
the
neighborhood
because
it
was
just
a
great
place
to
live.
This
is
just
kind
of
a
generic
floor
plan
of
what
these
layouts
look
like.
M
You
know,
you've
got
a
family
room.
You've
got
a
dining
room,
you're
getting
pocket
studies
now
because
more
people
are
working
from
home
and
we
try
and
incorporate
a
downstairs
bedroom
for
people
who
have
guests
or
parents
that
visit
that
maybe
can't
navigate
the
tight
stairs
on
these
narrower
products.
M
You
know
we
have
looked
at
three
different
options:
two
of
our
own
and
one
as
suggested
by
city
staff,
for
what
ways
to
redesign
around
the
home
or
redesign
around
the
trees,
and
so
there's
one
of
our
layouts.
Where
we've
looked
at,
you
know
putting
a
front
load
garage.
This
is
san
jose
and
putting
a
driveway
here
for
the
for
the
house
and
the
issue
with
this
particular
footprint.
M
M
You
know
57
to
66
foot
canopy,
that's
low,
so
you
really
have
a
hard
time
building
anything
on
the
second
floor
here
so
everything's
house
forward,
and
so
you
get
a
footprint,
that's
about
1300
square
feet
for
just
downstairs
of
the
home,
which
is
well
below
the
size
that
most
of
the
new
homes
that
have
been
are
being
built
over
the
last
20
or
25
years
in
the
neighborhood
are
there's
another
design
kind
of
the
same
similar
theme.
M
We
looked
at
side
loading,
the
cars
into
the
garage
to
kind
of
stay
out
of
the
front,
and
it's
a
similar
situation.
You
really
end
up
with
the
shotgun
format
for
the
house,
where
you've
got
15
feet
to
work
with
to
design
your
living
space
and
hallways,
and
such
the
last
design
that
we
looked
at
was
one
that
was
suggested
by
natural
resources
and
they
actually
drew
a
picture
of
it
on
their
report.
M
And
so
we
took
a
look
at
whether
or
not
that
might
be
viable,
and
you
know
it.
It
still
was
kind
of
a
similar
situation.
You
know
you're
you're
still
trying
to
preserve
this
big
tree.
You've
got
the
other
specimen
trees
staying
you're.
Putting
a
detached
garage
over
here.
You've
got
es
bronzes
a
street
over
here,
so
you
shift
all
of
your
outdoor
living
space
to
underneath
this
tree
on
the
traffic
road
and
you
know,
and
so
you're
you're
you're.
You
know
you
kind
of
you
just
underutilized
a
lot.
M
You
have
no
real
backyard
at
that
point
with
their
design,
you
still
get
maybe
50
to
75
feet
more
square
feet
on
the
living
area,
but
you're
still
building
a
home,
that's
well
below
this
size
and
it's
kind
of
inconsistent
with
the
new
homes
that
are
being
built
in
the
neighborhood.
M
You
know-
and
I
mentioned
earlier-
I
mean
we've
done
this
a
lot
in
the
neighborhood,
where
we've
come
up
with
houses
that
have
had
tree
issues.
I
mean
this
one's
just
down
the
road
at
32,
18,
san
miguel,
and
we
had
a
big
37
inch
oak
here
live
oak
and
we
were
able
to
design
this
house
around
it,
and
this
house
has
ended
up
being
a
3000
or
3100
square
foot
home.
M
You
know,
we've
got
a
house
under
construction
right
now,
elizabeth
court,
much
bigger
lot
same
thing,
though
two
specimen
trees
shrunk
down
the
size
of
our
house
quite
a
bit
to
work
around
the
trees.
You
know-
and
you
know
made
it
work,
and
you
know:
we've
got
a
great
new
buyer
who
just
moved
to
tampa
from
seattle
who's.
You
know
running
one
of
the
major
businesses
that
just
moved
here.
You
know.
Moving
in
the
neighborhoods.
Is
it's
a
very
desirable
neighborhood?
It's
another
one.
M
We
have
under
construction
right
now,
3410
dorchester,
we've
got
a
big
live
oak
here.
A
couple
more
live
oaks
here
and
here
and
here
and
you
know,
we've
much
bigger
lot.
We
shrunk
the
house
down
because
a
lot
size
is
so
big
and
we
were
able
to
redesign
the
house
around
these
trees,
and
you
know
I
can
go
on.
I
even
show
you
90
seconds
left,
mr
movie,
okay.
M
Well,
and
so
you
know
we've
gone
through
like
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
just
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
record.
You
know
barbara
lynch
with
land
development
coordination.
She
found
that
our
our
request
was
consistent
and
transportation
also
found
that
it
was
consistent.
Natural
resources.
You
know,
wanted
us
to
look
at
look
at
the
alternative
plans
and
I
feel,
like
we've,
met
that
threshold
and
going
through
that
that
effort
to
see
what
else
would
fit.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
Our
procedure
has
us
asking
for
any
one
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
about
this
petition.
So
if
that
completes
your
presentation
this
evening,
thank
you
awesome.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
if
anyone
in
the
audience
would
like
to
come
up
and
speak
now's,
your
opportunity,
you'll
have
three
minutes
come
on
up.
I
Bob
whitmore,
founder
and
executive
director
of
city
tree
the
citizens,
action
group
and
I
will
start
by
saying,
tico's,
taking
good
care
of
those
wires
without
cutting
down
that
tree
for
many
many
years.
I'd
also
like
to
begin
by
thanking
you
the
board
for
your
work.
We
are
very
grateful
for
your
service.
I
Half
truths
manufactured
to
help
a
builder
overbuild
on
a
lot
he
purchased
knowing
far
too
well
that
the
house
he
planned
to
build.
There
could
only
be
built
if
he
could
convince
you
to
allow
him
to
destroy
a
healthy,
b-rated,
legally
protected
grand
oak
in
short,
self-inflicted
hardship,
as
you
will
hear
this
home
this
monstrous
mansion.
This
monument
to
greed
is
not
consistent
with
other
homes
in
the
neighborhood,
but
would
be
consistent
with
a
growing
trend
to
overbuild
on
smaller
lots.
I
I
It's
been
I've
been
in
front
of
this
board
enough
times
to
know
that
a
decision
like
this
comes
down
to
question
a
reasonable
use,
and
I
will
tell
you
there
is
nothing
reasonable
about
putting
a
house
this
big
on
that
lot
in
this
neighborhood
at
this
expense
of
a
massive,
beautiful
global
warming
reversing
protected
tree,
where,
if
you
can't
bring
yourself
to
say
no
to
the
building
at
least
say
no
to
the
destruction
of
this
grand
oak,
insist
on
a
building
plan
that
will
save
this
community
treasure.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
You
can
talk
about
anything,
you
want
you
three
minutes,
but
I
did
want
to
say,
because
we
saw
the
letters
that
we
are
not
talking
about
a
hardship
criteria,
we're
talking
about
a
reasonable
use
criteria,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
the
most
helpful
thing
that
folks
can
do
is
talk
about
the
reasonable
use
criteria,
not
the
hardship
criteria,
but
again
you're
welcome
to
talk
any
in
your
three
minutes.
N
B
I
understand
and
that's
that's
somewhat
confusing,
but
the
code
criteria
that
we
are
faced
with
this
evening
is
section
27
dash,
which
are
we
on
284.2.5
f4.
The
standards
are
those
that
apply
if
you
need
a
copy
of
that,
I'm
sure
city
staff
can
provide
that
for
you,
but
those
are
the
criteria
that
we
have
to
rely
upon
for
our
decision
this
evening.
That's
why
I
say
to
the
extent
it's
most
helpful
to
us.
If
folks
want
to
address
that
criteria,
that's.
N
N
B
N
I
have
a
prepared
statement.
Okay,
my
name
is
lorraine
perrino.
I
live
at
604
ontario,
I'm
a
lifelong
tampa
residence
good
evening
this
time.
During
this
time
of
devastating
global
climate
change,
the
city
of
tampa
should
be
preserving
its
old
growth
trees.
On
july,
7th
2022,
the
national
weather
service
issued
a
rare
warning
to
tampa
residents
that
the
heat
index
that
day
would
rise
to
110
fahrenheit
and
urge
residents
to
stay
inside.
Despite
the
climate
change
alarm
bells
going
off
daily.
N
Mobley
homes
cannot
honestly
claim
the
hardship
that
building
a
house
on
the
lot
would
be
impossible,
so
he
instead
asserts
that
by
removing
this,
grand
oak
would
allow
the
property
to
be
used
in
the
same
manner
as
other
lots
of
the
same
size
in
the
area.
The
obvious
counter
to
this
false
claim
should
be
that
other
lots
of
the
same
size
do
not
contain
a
healthy
50-foot.
N
Grand
oak
57-foot
grand
oak
growing
in
their
side
yard
mobley
is
not
being
denied
use
of
the
property
constructing
a
building
that
is
slightly
reduced
in
size
or
detaching.
The
garage
as
the
city
arborist
recommended
would
allow
the
builder
to
build
his
mcmansion
while
preserving
this
gem
of
a
grand
oak
for
future
generations.
N
The
builder
also
falsely
claims
that,
by
removing
this
healthy
grand
oak,
the
rights
of
others
are
not
compromised
or
injurious
in
any
way
to
the
public,
health,
safety
and
general
welfare,
but
he
completely
disregards
the
serious
adverse
effects
on
the
entire
area.
If
the
grand
oak
is
removed,
a
the
dramatic
rise
in
the
neighborhood's
heat
index
resulting
from
the
loss
of
shade
and
cool
air,
the
deterioration
of
air
quality
resulting
from
the
loss
of
pure
oxygen
that
this
tree
pumps
out
daily,
the
increase
in
air
pollution
street
flooding,
loss
of
native
wildlife.
N
The
builder
falsely
states
that
the
proposed
variance
is
in
harmony
with
the
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
This
claim
is
directly
refuted
by
the
urban
forestry
section
of
the
comp
plan,
which
states
tree
canopy
is
a
vital
community
and
environmental
asset
that
is
appreciated
and
desired
by
residents
in
you
and
established
neighborhoods
alike.
N
The
protection
and
supplementation
of
the
street
canopy
is
a
necessity
in
order
to
sustain
the
resource
and
maintain
the
environmental
effects,
such
as
cooler
temperatures
that
the
mature
canopy
provides
and
the
2011
urban
forest
analysis
states,
unlike
other
public
infrastructure
components,
properly
planted
and
maintained,
trees
increase
in
value
over
time
as
a
local
civic
body.
Vrb
your
charge
is
to
promote
the
general
welfare
of
tampa's
entire
community,
which
includes
protecting
tampa's
old
growth
trees.
N
In
this
age
of
catastrophic
climate
change,
tampa
city
government
should
strive
to
protect
and
preserve
its
grand
trees,
precisely
precisely
because
of
all
the
health
benefits
the
trees
trees
provide
to
every
living
thing
and
because
by
protecting
our
grand
trees,
we
also
protect
our
own
good
health.
Please
vote
no
to
this
petition
and
vote
instead
to
preserve
one
of
tampa's,
most
beautiful
old
growth,
trees,
grand
oaks.
Thank
you.
B
N
N
I
have
not
been
sworn,
but
also
you've
really
thrown
us
all
a
curveball,
because
nowhere
was
it
available
to
the
public
to
know
that
reasonable
use
was
the
format,
so
I've
got
these
handouts
for
y'all.
I
don't
know
who
I
give
these
two
I've
had
11
citations
from
the
comp
plan,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
give
them
to
you,
but
that's
what
I
was
going
to
speak
on,
but
now
I
find
out
that
that's
not.
Let's.
B
B
B
Sorry,
it's
it's
a
silly
thing
because
we
saw
you
get
sworn
in,
but.
N
Reasonable
use
that
house
that
was
torn
down
was
built
in
the
1940s.
That
means
someone
lived
there
for
80
years.
I
would
argue
that
that
is
obviously
very
reasonable
use.
The
family
could
live
there
for
80
years.
It
does
not
have
to
be
a
gigantic
house
to
be
reasonable
use.
There
are
no
surprises
about
this
lot.
The
people
the
person
who
bought
it
is
a
professional.
N
N
No
one
held
a
gun
to
his
head
and
made
him
buy
a
house
that
was
too
small
or
had
a
protected
grand
oak.
That
would
prohibit
him
from
building
what
he
wanted
to
build
the
force.
The
natural
resources
have
found
this
inconsistent.
They
even
showed
a
proposal
with
a
detached
garage
that
is
a
reasonable
use
that
can
be
built
on
that
property.
N
N
B
N
N
You'll
hear
that
a
lot
that
they
are
entitled
to
it,
but
the
fact
is
that
isn't
true
they're
entitled
to
a
reasonable
use,
the
same
reasonable
use
that
the
house
was
you.
The
lot
was
put
in
used
for
for
the
last
80
years,
put
a
normal
size,
appropriate
size
house
on
that
lot,
just
as
the
builder
knew
would
be
the
requirement
before
he
purchased
it.
The
arborist
an
arborist,
did
a
study
on
that
law
in
january
and
said
that
the
tree
was
very
healthy,
so
it
this
is.
There's
no
surprises
here.
B
O
Sure,
pamela
jackson,
haney
I've
been
sworn
oh
address,
3014
west
harborview
avenue
great,
so
I
can
use
before
my
time
starts.
I
just
want
to
use
this
elmo.
Do
you
mind
if
I
or
what.
O
Okay,
great
thank
you.
Just
wanna
put
these
on
here
really
quick.
A
O
Okay,
great
okay,
I'm
ready
this
tree
should
be
and
needs
to
be
saved
and
not
one
but
two
respected.
Arborists
agree
months
ago,
I
received
notice
that
a
variance
for
the
removal
of
a
grand
tree
in
san
jose
had
been
applied,
for
it
was
a
43
inch
live
oak,
not
a
50
inch
live
oak
as
the
developer
states
in
his
hardship
request
and
it's
rated
b6
most
trees.
I
have
heard
about,
and
the
giants
around
my
house
are
c-rated,
so
I
needed
to
see
this
berate
a
tree.
O
O
O
O
Also,
the
developer
repeatedly
states
that
he
is
saving
a
tree
on
the
property.
I
want
to
point
out
again
that
he
isn't
saving
any
tree
on
the
property.
The
tree
he's
speaking
of
is
on
the
right
of
way
and
he's
not
allowed
to
touch
that
healthy
tree.
As
far
as
I
know
that
tree
belongs
to
the
city,
tampa
needs
thoughtful
building
now
more
than
ever.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
builder
to
think
outside
the
big
bach
mcmansion
mentality,
and
he
will
still
make
a
handsome
profit.
O
He
bought
the
lot
at
an
incredibly
decent
price
in
one
of
the
most
expensive
neighborhoods
in
the
city.
There
is
a
new
tree
report
coming
out
soon
that
will
show
our
tree.
Canopy
has
significantly
diminished
due
to
all
the
building
going
on
school
districts
are
in
the
process
of
being
redrawn.
Due
to
this
big
building
boom,
some
may
say
that's
progress
and
that's
fine,
but
let's
have
smart
progress.
O
B
O
The
dec,
I
think
that
the
decision
made
today
by
this
committee
will
have
a
significant
effect
on
the
future
of
tampa's
canopy
and
I'm
going
to
explain
why
there's
a
new
state
law
at
sb,
518
new
state
tree
law,
and
it
clearly
defines
how
land
owners,
arborists
and
tree
cutters
are
all
responsible
for
following
the
laws
and
if
not,
they
will
be
fined.
O
O
O
And
finally,
the
developer
needs
to
create
an
alternative
plan
that
preserves
that
tree,
not
not
pretend
that
that's
something
that
can't
be
done.
The
lot
was
purchased
with
two
grand
lives:
okay,
like
live
trees
on
it,
and
the
developer
knew
he
would
have
to
come
here
today
for
permission
to
remove
at
least
one
of
those
trees.
If
he
planned
to
have
a
larger
house
footprint,
this
tree
is
being
described
as
a
hardship
by
the
developer,
with
a
tone
of
expected
entitlement
for
his
request.
O
O
Tampa
tree
code
will
be
useless
and
the
tampa
tree
canopy
will
be
gone.
If
the
tree
is
preserved,
then
tampa
has
a
chance
of
saving
at
least
some
of
the
grand
trees.
There
are
still
many
that
don't
meet
these
requirements
and
there,
and
there
are
also
some
many
that
are
taken
down
because
people
don't
follow
the
law,
but
all
builders
need
to
understand
that
if
the
grand
oak
is
on
a
property
they
purchase,
they
may
not
claim
it
to
be
a
hardship
they
may
have
to
build
around
it,
and
that
is
the
case
today.
O
Don't
buy
a
lot
with
the
grand
oak
unless
you
want
to
take
responsibility
for
it.
Voting
against
this
variance
sends
that
message
to
the
community.
Please
vote
to
save
this
grand
tree.
The
decision
made
here
today
by
this
committee
will
have
a
significant
effect
to
the
future
of
tampa's
tree
canopy.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
E
E
He
doesn't
know
to
jump
out
until
it's
too
late
and
that's
what's
happening
in
south
tampa
we're
the
frogs
and
we're
slowly.
Turning
into
a
cookie
cutter
community,
we
have
three
mark
mobley
homes
on
our
street
three
and
where
does
it
end?
Honestly,
we
met
with
the
builder
to
express
our
concerns.
E
This
slot
was
purchased
and
sold.
Knowing
a
grand
oak
had
lived
there
for
a
long
time
and
the
assumption
was
that
it
would
be
approved
in
our
meeting
we
heard
it's
relatively
easy
to
get
out
a
grand
oak,
a
stately
grand
oak
at
that
it
was
also
said
if
the
variance
board
doesn't
approve,
it
gets
pushed
to
city,
council
and
city
council
always
lets
them
come
out.
If
someone
comes
up
with
a
reasonable
use
on
a
50
by
100
foot
lot
is
removing
a
grand
oak
for
a
3
400
square
foot,
reasonable
use.
E
There's
no
hardship
here.
Obviously,
that's
a
moot
point
now,
for
whatever
reason
I
don't
know
it's
an
inconvenience
to
the
builder.
A
house
can
be
built
to
work
around
the
tree
and
additionally,
there
was
a
complete
lack
of
regard.
When
the
house
was
torn
down.
There
was
two
city
visits.
At
least
someone
could
probably
verify
to
stop
the
the
destruction
of
the
house,
because
there
was
no
barrier
built
around
the
tree,
a
vehicle
just
jamming
all
around
the
tree
without
a
barrier
fence,
so
complete
lack
of
regard.
E
It
wasn't
until
a
few
city
visits
that
they
finally
put
up
a
little
fence.
So
I
do
oppose
the
removal
of
this
grand
oak
and
ask
the
board
to
put
an
end
to
the
slow
boil
happening
in
our
neighborhood
and
I'd
also
like
to
add
the
comment
about
borderline
hazard
for
the
tree
on
the
side.
That
is
a
shared
tree
with
the
neighbor
who's.
Not
here
who
offered
to
buy
this
property
and
the
our
burst
report
said
that
tree
cannot
be
pruned
unless
it's
approved
by
the
neighbor.
E
E
E
Oh,
the
shade
would
be
perfect
for
children
playing
on
the
or
a
porch
area
for
entertaining
on
the
side
where
esperanza
is
which
he,
I
guess
stated,
was
a
heavily
trafficked
traffic
street.
It
is
not
it's
a
side
street
other
than
people
walking
dogs
and
people
pushing
strollers,
that's,
basically,
the
only
traffic
on
it
mobley
homes
have
not
been
consistent
with
the
feel
of
palmacio.
The
new
homes
are
inconsistent
with
the
neighborhood,
and
the
tree
was
there
when
he
bought
it.
The
proposed
building,
oh
and
on
the
code,
which
I
just
reviewed
shortly,
part
b.
E
The
proposed
building
can
be
reasonably
reconfigured
and
part
e.
There
is
no
cost
involved
to
do
that.
The
city
of
tampa
arborist
is
against
the
tree
removals.
He
does
not
see
any
reason
for
the
tr
that
the
tree
should
be
removed.
He
even
sent
a
drawing
of
a
new
home
to
the
builder
that
can
be
built
on
the
lot
leaving
the
tree
intact.
E
Mowgli
can
reasonably
build
a
home
on
the
lot
without
destroying
the
tree
and
without
any
costs
mo.
We
prematurely
tore
down
the
home
on
the
property,
assuming
he
could
build
a
large
home
in
the
lot,
and
while
doing
this,
moby
had
no
protection
designating
or
fencing
around
the
tree.
Moby
bought
the
home
well
below
market
value.
Without
it
going
on
the
market,
mobley
could
solve
a
lot
for
more
than
he
purchased
the
entire
lot
in
home.
I
am
a
real
estate
broker.
I
know
this.
E
A
A
Five
of
those
were
within
three
lots
of
where
we
live
and
the
difference
in
the
canopy
just
walking
around
the
block
that
we
normally
walk
around
in
with
my
grandkids.
It's
it's
gotten
noticeably
hotter
than
just
the
last
year,
and
I'm
talking
about
one
of
these
grand
oaks
was
it
they
were.
They
were.
It
was
the
biggest
tree.
I've
ever
seen,
I
think
in
person
it
was
a
double
tree
and
it
was
counted
in
the
middle.
A
A
lot,
but
what's
what's
unusual
about
tonight,
is
I'm
used
to
when
I
called
the
city
about
these
trees
coming
down,
they
said:
well,
they
have
an
arborist
report.
That
is,
I
think,
a
d9
or
a
d10,
which
I
believe
is
a
very
unhealthy
tree.
None
of
these
trees,
I've
seen
cut
down
right
now
or
unhealthy.
A
I
mean
I
videoed
two
of
them.
It
took
them
all
day
to
take
these
trees
and
there
wasn't
an
unhealthy
limb
that
they
cut
anywhere
so
in
in
this.
But
I'm
just
saying
this
is
a
problem
in
all
of
south
tampa
it's
a
huge
problem
in
beach
park.
This
does
not
seem
like
a
reasonable
use
on
this
lot
to
me,
it's
50
foot
wide.
How
big
a
house
do
you
expect
to
put
on
a
50
foot
wide
lot
plus
he
knew
about
it
when
he
bought
the
lot.
J
Yes,
so
my
name
is
megan
libel
and
my
address
is
3119
west
palmyra
avenue
and
I
have
been
sworn
in
so
my
other
neighbors
have
made
some
some
great
points
so
I'll,
just
chime
in
on
a
couple
of
things
here.
J
A
lot
of
my
notes
are
about
the
hardship
which
I
guess
we're
not
reviewing,
but
I
would
just
like
to
re-emphasize
it.
Nobody
forced
this
builder
to
purchase
this
home.
He
knew
very
well
that
that
tree
existed
on
that
lot.
The
house
was
in
good
condition.
It
was
a
very
cute,
charming
home.
A
lot
of
people,
myself
included,
would
have
loved
to
have
the
opportunity
to
purchase
that
if
it
had
gone
on
the
market,
but
it
never
went
on
the
market
and
he
purchased
it
for
well
below
market
value,
so
a
reasonable
use.
J
J
J
J
I
would
also
like
to
address
the
statement
that
he
made
about
tico
cutting
down
tree
limbs.
They've
been
out
there
probably
three
times
within
the
past
year
in
that
very
spot
and
haven't,
had
to
knock
down
the
tree
and
haven't
done
substantial
damage
that
would
cause
it
to
be
knocked
down
with
regards
as
well
to
the
lack
of
regard
when
tearing
down
the
home,
the
demolition
machine
wasn't
just
knocking
all
around
the
tree.
J
J
Let
me
see
so
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
that
he
can
still
make
a
substantial
profit
in
two
ways.
Without
knocking
down
that
tree,
he
can
sell
the
empty
lot
for
a
big
profit
over
what
he
paid
for
it
and
he
could
also
build
a
smaller
home
that
would
have
reasonable
use
for
many
small
families
in
the
neighborhood
to
move
into.
So
that's
all
I'd
like
to
say.
E
Yes,
I'm
carol
kamisa.
I
live
at
3409,
west
santiago
street
in
in
palmisia,
and
I
was
sworn
in
earlier.
I
happen
to
be
to
lead
the
environment
and
climate
action
group
for
the
league
of
women
voters
that
very
much
supports
the
tree
canopy,
as
stated
by
the
mayor
yesterday,
but
I'm
here
as
a
near
neighbor.
E
I
regularly
walk
my
dog
there
because
it
is
charming
because
of
the
brick
streets
because
of
the
shade
and
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
I've
encountered
some
of
the
neighbors
who
really
appreciate
living
there
because
of
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
the
brick
streets,
the
shade,
the
modest
homes,
some
of
the
homes
there.
The
the
older
homes
are
larger,
there's
quite
a
few
that
are
craft.
E
You
know
bungalow
style
and
small
modest,
but
there
are
larger
ones,
but
those
ones
except
for
the
ones
built
by
mr
mobley
do
have
property
around
them
and
trees
and
greenery.
And
that's
what
the
neighbors
really
very
much
appreciate.
Now.
I
spent
some
time
going
through
the
application
materials.
It's
not
a
territory,
that's
familiar
for
me,
but
there
was
a
use
of
the
term
justice
that
was
very
confusing
to
me
and
how
I
know
the
definition
of
justice
and
how
I
finally
came
to
understand.
E
It
was,
if
I
just
put
the
word
profit
instead
of
justice,
then
it
it
all
began
to
make
sense,
and-
and
I
think
that's
that's
really
what's
at
issue
here-
it's
it's
not
with
regard
to
anything
beneficial
to
the
neighbors
or
the
neighborhood
or
the
environment,
and
I'm
asking
tonight
that
you
please
refuse
this
request.
Thank
you.
A
Hi
david
alvarado,
I
have
been
sworn
in,
I'm
a
resident
at
3117,
west,
san
jose
street,
so
this
home
that
is
being
proposed
in
the
tree
coming
down
is
across
the
street
from
me.
I
have
lived
in
south
tampa
for
about
15
years
originally
from
michigan.
So
I
do
know
a
lot
about
trees
see
a
lot
of
trees.
It's
very
green.
It
is
what
attracted
me
to
south
tampa
south.
A
You
know
cute
houses,
they're,
not
all
cookie
cutter,
and
it
has
a
great
tree
canopy.
One
of
the
great
things
about
san
jose
street
is
we
have
a
beautiful
high
school
at
the
end
of
the
road
plant
high
school.
We
have
the
country
club
and
from
this
street
you
can
see
the
first
tee
of
the
country
club.
A
A
The
tree
was
there
before
they
bought
the
house.
There
are
lots
of
houses
being
built
in
the
neighborhood.
We
don't
need
to
tear
down
another
tree.
You
could
build
anything
in
that
spot
and
it
would
sell,
as
I
think
somebody
would
say,
you
don't
even
have
to
put
anything
in
that
spot
because
it
will
sell
that
particular
tree
is
on
the
side
of
the
lot.
It
is
not
in
the
middle
of
the
lot.
There
have
been
recommendations
for
other
avenues
of
how
they
could
build
the
home
that
have
been
recommended
by
the
city.
A
Of
course,
this
tree
does
not
poten
does
not
pose
any
hazard
to
anyone
of
a
building
of
a
home
or
providing
shade,
or
that
homeowners
will
have
to
face
the
street.
Well,
my
home
faces
the
street
too.
You
know,
so
I
don't
really
know
how
we're
gonna
fix
that
by
getting
rid
of
a
tree,
so
the
tree
was
always
there.
He
bought
the
home.
A
Lots
of
other
people
could
have
lived
there,
they
could
be
living
there.
Now.
There's
no
reason
to
take
down
this.
This
grand
tree,
that's
50
feet
tall
that
covers
the
streets.
We
don't
have
sidewalks,
we
don't
have
sidewalks,
so
people
walk
in
the
street.
That's
where
we
look
for
shade.
So
as
a
resident
of
south
tampa-
and
I
love
what's
happening
to
this
city-
I
love
what's
happening
to
south
tampa.
I
don't
think
anybody
could
complain
about
south
tampa,
with
the
exception
of
we
need
to
keep
more
of
our
trees.
B
All
right
is
there
anyone
else
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
all
right,
seeing
none,
then
I
will
turn
it.
I
will
open
up
for
questions
from
the
board
for
the
petitioner
for
any
member
who
spoke
in
the
audience
or
for
city
staff.
J
I
have
a
question
for
the
applicant:
could
you
put
up
the
site
plan
that
you're
proposing
again.
M
B
Will
get
the
five
minute
rebuttal
after
we
ask
our
questions
so,
okay,
if
we
ask
our
questions
after
your
rebuttal,
you
get
through
a
butt
again,
so
you'll
get
the
time
to
for
five
minutes
to
say
whatever
you
want
to
say.
After
all,
the
questions
are
okay.
Thank
you.
I.
J
J
Okay,
I'm
so
sorry,
could
you
actually
put
up
one
of
the
alternative
site
plans?
That's
what
I
have
the
question
about.
E
M
J
So
in
the
report
from
natural
resources,
mr
eister
indicated
that
you
can
encroach
into
the
20-foot
protective
zone
of
the
grand
tree
using
a
pure
and
lentil
construction.
Is
that
something
that
you
looked
into,
because
I
know
that
you
talked
a
lot
about
how
you
know
this:
a
house
that
was
15
feet
wide?
Wasn't
you
know
realistic
and
and
would
mess
with
the
flow
of
the
house?
But
could
you
could
we
make
the
house
a
little
bit
wider
by
encroaching
into
that
protective
zone
using
some
alternative
construction
methods?
Sure.
M
So
we
use
pure-
and
you
know
basically
spanning
the
root
systems
on
lots
of
homes,
because
we
work
around
these
trees
all
the
time
in
south
tampa-
and
you
know
the
main
driver
of
that
is
how
low
the
canopy
is
and
on
this
particular
home
you
might
be
able
to
get
closer
to
the
home
to
go
another
five
feet
in
over
closer
to
the
the
base
of
the
tree,
which
would
give
you
a
little
bit
more
space
but
the
problem.
M
It
still
remains
that
you're
going
to
be
running
into
the
canopy
up
above
it
and
you
know
so
yeah
I
mean
that
by
right,
you're
allowed
to
span
five
feet
of
it
by
the
code,
but
this
particular
situation.
M
M
You
can
try
and
pull
the
home
forward
to
get
further
away
from
the
tree,
but
you've
got
a
specimen
tree
in
the
right
of
way
and
so
there's
just
a
lot
of
trees
on
site
to
work
around
where
things
that
you
might
be
able
to
do
on
other
lots
like
examples
I
was
showing
you
previously
are
more
difficult
to
do
on
this
lot,
one
because
it's
a
50
by
100
lot.
So
there's
only
so
much
there's
only
5
000
square
feet
to
work
with,
but
then
two
there's
trees
on
two.
M
Yes,
okay,
every
new
home
being
built
in
palmocia
is
two
stories
the
smaller
you
know,
2-1
homes
that
were
there
from
the
1910s
and
20s
and
then
again
in
the
40s
and
50s.
That's
when
those
stopped
being
built,
I
used
to
live
in
one
of
those
on
3409
granada
for
a
long
time
and
great
I
loved
living
there.
But
as
my
family
got
bigger,
you
know
it
wasn't.
I
couldn't
have
three
boys
and
in
the
two
in
the
two
one
we
more
space
was
more
efficient
for
us.
J
M
I
think
you're
getting
into
this
issue
of
you
know
the
original
house
that
was
there
was
a
thousand
fifty
and
it
was
you
know
very
similar
to
what
natural
resources
proposed
on
what
their
layout
was.
So
even
if
you
get
up
to
14
or
1500
square
feet
like
on
this
particular
lot,
we
paid
515
000
for
the
slot.
You
know
we're
still
buying
lots
in
the
neighborhood
for
565.75
a
year
year
and
a
half
later
now,
so
we
didn't
steal
the
slot
out.
M
This
was
a
retiree
who
called
us
and
said:
hey
we're
looking
to
sell.
We
bought
the
lot
from
her
because
that's
that's
what
we
do
you
know,
and
so,
but
there's
just
not
a
given
the
land
values
having
moved
up
so
much.
M
J
And
yeah
no,
and
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
what
we're
charged
with
is
is
not
you
know
the
the
monetary
value
or
you
know
the
the
efficiency
of
building
a
home
isn't
really
something
that
that
we,
you
know,
consider
we're
looking
at
you
know,
but.
M
I
do
think
it
lends
itself
to
the
reasonableness
of
what
the
uses
of
the
property,
though
you
know,
if
you're
saying
well.
This
is
what
the
new
standard
is
of.
What's
consistent
in
the
neighborhood
what's
consistently
being
built,
then
that
becomes
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property.
You
can't
look
back
and
say
well,
hey
back
in
1910
the
use
was
x
now
the
use
is
y
and
you
know
somewhere.
You've
got
to
meet
those
two
things
up
and
I'm
certainly
appreciative
of
the
desire
to
you
know
protect
the
canopy.
M
You
know
when
they
were
redoing
the
code
and
coming
in
with
the
tr.
You
know
the
the
trz
zone.
I
I'm
good
friends
with
gina
grimes.
I
worked
a
lot
with
her
on
talked
with
her
about
it
give
her
what
my
thoughts
were
from
a
builder
same
thing
with
dave
reilly,
I
mean
you
know
we
we're
not
someone
who's
in
trouble
with
taking
down
trees
illegally.
You
know,
there's
plenty
of
things
that
could
have
been
done
to
you
know.
M
I
see
it
happen
all
the
time
when
these
trees
are
just
like
they're
talking
they're
just
coming
down,
and
I
don't
understand
why
the
city
is
letting
that
happen,
because
a
lot
of
these
trees
that
people
are
classifying,
they
should
do
what
I'm
doing
come
here.
You
have
to
prove
up,
that's
reasonable
or
not
and
the
board
votes,
but
people
are
getting.
M
You
know
somebody
for
500
bucks
to
say
it's
a
hazard
and
the
tree
comes
down
or
they
rate
it
as
a
c9,
and
you
know
that's
that's
not
what
should
be
being
done
in
the
city,
but
it
is,
you
know-
and
you
know
so-
I'm
sensitive
to
the
canopy,
which
is
why
we're
willing
to
forego
a
lot
of
our
profits
to
go
and
build
homes
that
we
can
build
around
them
and
the
one
house
I
showed
john
elizabeth
court
in
this
neighborhood.
M
You
know
that
home
I
mean
two
doors
down.
You
know
they
had
some
trees
disappear
and
you
know
they
got
a
more
than
a
million
dollars
more
on
that
particular
home
than
what
than
what
we're
doing.
So
you
know
they
were
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
a
healthy
tree
out
of
there,
and
you
know
we
just
built
around
them.
J
M
Yes,
you
can
get
five
feet
closer
to
the
tree
in
this
back
into
this
protective
root
zone
here
or
this.
The
protective
radius
of
the
tree,
if
you
pee
or
lentil
it
you'd,
have
to
air
spade,
make
sure
you're
not
hitting
any
big
roots
that
are
over
two
inches
and
whatnot.
But
yes,
it.
It
is
possible.
That's
one
of
the
approved
methods.
M
The
post,
the
house
we're
going
to
build
is
a
3
500
square
foot
home.
The
bottom
floor
is
2160.,
which
includes
the
garage.
M
A
four
bedroom
home
okay
and
we
built
that
same
model
several
times
several
other
locations
in
that
neighborhood.
You
know
over
the
years
we've
been
very
active
in
this
neighborhood.
I
started
my
business
in
this
neighborhood
on
when
I
lived
on
granada.
Those
were
the
first
homes
that
I
built,
which
has
been,
I
guess
17
years
ago.
M
M
I
mean
you've
got
a
lot
of
you
know
older
homes,
some
of
them
can't
be
restored
and
the
land
values
are
pushed
up,
and
you
know
people
with
families
are
moving
more
and
more
into
the
neighborhood
one
because
of
close
plan
high
school
and
roosevelt
elementary,
which
are
the
best
schools
in
the
district.
And
yes,
there's
just
a
lot
of
demand.
There.
M
D
M
Most
of
the
time
we
work
with
a
woman
named
aaron
barker
and
she
used
to
work
for
bsp
design
for
a
long
time,
and
now
she
works
for
escapes
my
mind
with
the
firm
is,
but
she
does
all
of
our
plan
design
for
us.
We've
used
her
for
every
home.
We
used
to
use
stacy
davis
on
a
few
homes,
but
you
know
he's
obviously
since
passed,
but
that's
how
we
design
our
homes.
M
We
try
and
you
know,
kind
of
match
up
and
like
when
the
code
changed
where
we
were
allowed
to
start
doing
the
front
porches,
and
I
know
john
dingfelt
really
spearheaded
that
that
was
you
know
that
was
you
know.
We
felt
like
that's
a
big
plus,
particularly
in
neighborhoods
like
this,
where
you're
on
these
postage
stamp
lots
and
you're
able
to
you,
know,
push
out
into
the
front
yard
some
with
the
livable
space.
That's
open
air,
because
that
is
how
people
in
this
neighborhood
lived
back
then
and
still
now,
that's
the
preference.
A
D
And
when
I
have
a
site
plan
that
I'm
going
to
work
towards
whether
it's
a
home
or
a
commercial
building,
we
don't
assume
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
raise
what's
on
that
site.
A
good
architect
can
work
around
certain
issues,
and
I
guess
I
would
I'm
surprised
that
you
don't
have
an
alternate
here
that
that
you're
happy
with
that
you
could
do
if,
if
you
can't
remove
the
tree.
M
Well
that
the
question
here
is
reasonable
use
by
code,
not
whether
or
not
we
hired
someone
to
design
a
home
on
this
particular
lot,
which
we
didn't.
We
have,
as
you
know,
like
any
builder,
you
know
that's
building
a
volume
of
homes.
We
have
standard
plans
that
we're
trying
to
use
there's
a
lot
of
obviously
efficiencies
in
doing
so,
and
you
know,
and
so
when
we
buy
sites,
you
know
we
evaluate
the
sites
and
then
you
know
we
have
home
buyers
who
want
certain
plans
or
certain
lifestyles
and
that's
what
we
market.
M
We
don't
go
and
we're
not
a
design,
build
firm
or
we're
doing
design
build
on
every
lot.
So
it's
just
that's
just
not
our
setup,
there's
lots
of
builders
that
that
are,
and
they
do
a
good,
very
good
job
of
it.
There's
one
of
them
sitting
behind
me
here
that
was
up
here
before
you
know,
and
they
do
an
excellent
job.
Dad
did
an
excellent
job
and
you
know
it's
just,
but
that's
just
not
our
model,
so.
K
P
K
M
The
the
front
setback
being
at
the
25
reduction,
okay
by
code.
You
know
when
you
have
these
trees,
that
you're
trying
to
work
around
you're
allowed
to
move
a
home,
one
foot
to
the
left
and
right
if
you
will-
and
you
can
have
a
reduction
in
the
front
yard
of
up
to
25,
which
in
this
particular
case
would
be
at
the
up
to
the
20-foot
mark
and
then
you'd
have
some.
You
know
the
garage
is
already
at
the
three
feet,
so
you
can't
reduce
any
further
back
sure.
M
The
garage
is
that
because
you
won't
meet
the
fire
code.
So
what
you're
seeing
here
is
without
another
variant,
but.
M
K
M
And
I
understand
that,
but
I
don't
think
they're
what
they're
talking
about
is
the
standard.
The
standard
is
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property
and
the
reasonable
use
is
measured,
based
on
what
other
things
what's
codified,
obviously,
and
what
are
their
homes
what's
consistent
with
what's
being
built
in
the
neighborhood?
And
you
know
I
understand
about
the
tree
canopy
and
you
know
they
redid
the
tree
code.
They
tried
to
whittle
some
things
down
and
you
know
my
view.
M
M
Is
you
know
when
you
go
and
you're
approved
for
a
tree
that
did
not,
you
know
to
do
reasonable
use
you're
required
what
the
mitigation
is,
and
you
can
either
do
the
mitigation
on
site
or
you
can
play
it
pay
into
the
tree
fund.
You
know
and
on
lots
like
the
this
size,
where
you've
already
got
a
lot
of
trees.
Most
time
people
are
paying
into
the
tree
fund
because
you're
not
just
going
to
put
a
bunch
of
trees
on
the
lots
that
are
either
one.
M
The
new
homeowner
is
going
to
just
pull
them
out
of
there,
because
I
don't
want
them
there
or
two.
The
trees
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
grow
because
there's
not
the
canopy,
just
constricts
them
kind
of
like
in
a
forest.
You
know
the
biggest
trees
are
there
and
it's
hard
for
the
acorns
to
fall
on
the
grow
up
because
they
don't
get
enough
light.
K
M
That's
the
point
you
go
and
you
start
packing
up
the
canopy
so
low
on
this.
By
the
time
you
start
building
up
and
you
take
a
good
chunk
of
the
canopy
out
of
the
tree.
It's
you're
defeating
the
point
of
trying
to
preserve
to
trying
to
preserve
the
tree.
This
is
the
picture
I
was
putting
up
there
earlier.
That
was
showing
when
you
start
to
go
this
canopy's
down
here.
You
can
see
kind
of
where
this
house
is
at
over.
Here
I
mean
going
even
one
story
this.
M
How
the
original
house
was
just
kind
of
weaved
in
the
canopy.
They
clearly
had
trimmed
the
tree
around
the
top
of
the
roof
over
the
years.
So
if
I
was
to
go
two-story
here,
you're
starting
to
lop
off
just
a
huge
chunk
of
the
tree-
and
I
mean
natural
resources
to
tell
you-
I
mean
if
somebody
goes
and
does
that
that's
effectively
a
taking
that's
you
know
it's
a
lot
less
expensive
for
the
builder,
because
they're
not
paid
a
tree
fund
they're
not
having
to
pay
to
have
the
tree
removed.
M
You
know
the
tree
just
gets
lopped,
and-
and
that's
you
just
don't
want
that-
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
helping
the
canopy
and
with
regard
to
chico
yeah
they're,
still
splicing
up
trees.
All
over
the
place.
You
know
davey's,
not
not
the
you
know,
they're,
not
the
the
surgeon
you
want
working
on.
You.
B
Any
other
questions
from
the
board.
I
have
a
couple.
Actually.
My
questions
are
for
staff.
First,
I'd
like
to
ask
mr
eister,
you
propose
come
on
up.
You
proposed
the
alternative
site
plan.
Was
that
your?
That
was
your
proposal.
You
knew
that
no.
G
That's
fine
yeah,
hello,
stephen
is
for
natural
resources.
So
what
I
looked
at
was
when
I
went
to
this
site.
Originally
there
was
a
detached
single
car
garage.
The
footers
were
already
existing.
G
B
Of
where
that
well,
my
question
then
becomes
looking
at
this
application.
One
of
the
cr,
I
should
start
by
saying
we
are
board
constrained
by
city
code,
we're
looking
at
a
code.
The
code.
One
of
the
criteria
is
whether
essentially
whether
natural
resources
finds
the
application
consistent
or
inconsistent,
what
is
your
finding
on
this
application
so.
G
I'm
going
to
stay
with
my
finding
of
inconsistent:
it's
a
single
family,
home
or
single
family
lot.
It
had
a
home
there.
So
to
me,
a
home
is
a
home.
That's
how
we
consider
like
reasonable
use.
G
We
can't
really
dictate
the
size
of
the
home.
We
just
have
to
make
sure
they
meet
the
25
green
space,
all
those
requirements.
I
let
mr
mobley
know
about
the
reductions
and
setbacks,
so
they
could
kind
of
explore
that
option,
and
then
I
didn't
see
this
detached
two-car
garage
diagram
till
today.
G
B
All
right,
thank
you.
That's
what
I
need
from
you.
I
have
a
question
for
legal
again
with
the
position
that
we
are
aboard
constrained
by
the
city
code,
legal
question
for
you,
ms
chancellor,
pelez,
some
of
the
comments
and
I've
heard
these
before
they're
very
common
comments.
E
You
know,
that's
that's
part
of
your
general
variance
standards,
but
the
tree
code
focuses
you
on
a
reasonable
reconfiguration
and
that's
how
you
determine
whether
or
not
there
is
a
hardship.
You
know
you
do
still
are
constrained
by
the
code
in
terms
of
consistency
with
the
comp
plan
and
things
like
that.
But
the
tree
code
does
dictate
what
reasonable
reconfiguration
encompasses,
and
that
is
what
this
board
has
to
apply.
E
B
Any
other
questions,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
so
sorry,
we've
we're
past
that
point.
We've
had
our
opportunities
to
speak,
even
if
he
lied
about
the
number
of
bedrooms.
Folks,
I'm
sorry,
and
if,
if
we
can't
stick,
we
have
rules,
we
have
our
rules
that
we
have
to
stick
with.
We
can't
stick
with
them.
We're
going
to
have
to
ask
folks
to
leave.
So
I
appreciate
that
passions
run
high
over
these
things.
B
I
appreciate
that
people
feel
strongly
about
them,
but
we
have
our
procedure
we'll
be
here
all
night
and
we'll
have
no
time
for
the
variances
that
come
after.
If
we
don't
stick
with
what
we've
got
so
are
there
any
other
questions
from
from
the
board
for
the
applicant
for
folks,
in
the
audience
or
for
city
staff.
M
I
can
show
you
the
actual
floor
plan
for
the
house.
We
can
count.
I
mean
if
I
misspoke
on
that,
I'm
happy
to
put
it
up
here.
If
I
put
it
in
the
record
the
plan,
I
believe
you
know
when
I
introduced
the
record,
so
you're
also
welcome
to
refer
to
it
there.
M
But
you
know
the
first
floor
here.
You
know,
we've
put
this
room
here
and
you
know
it's
labeled,
as
kim's
kids
den
on
this
particular
plan
doesn't
have
a
closet.
I
think
a
closet
is
what
generally
denotes
it
as
it
would
be:
a
bedroom
based
on
most
standards
and
then
up
here
you've
got
one
two
three
four
bedrooms
and
then
this
is
labeled
as
an
exercise
room
for
the
folks
who
would
like
to
buy
this
home,
who
also
live
in
the
neighborhood.
M
So
I
guess
arguably,
the
exercise
room
could
be
a
fifth
room.
If
you
put
a
if
you
put
a
closet
in
the
den's
room,
I
think
by
most
standards
that
would
make
it
six,
but
that's
not
how
this
plan
is
currently
set
up
and
it
has
already
been
submitted
for
a
permit.
So
it's
been
at
this
exact
plan.
Okay,
so
it
wasn't
my
intention
to
mislead
you
regarding
the
number
the
bedroom
count.
I
mean
the
issue
is
just
really
boils
down
to
you
know
whether
or
not
this
is
the
plan
we
applied
for.
D
M
All
right:
well,
I
appreciate
everybody
taking
the
time
to
do
this.
I
know
you
guys
are
here
late
night,
some
nights
and
I
know
I
appreciate
the
neighbors.
You
know
taking
time
out
of
their
schedule
to
come
and
talk
about.
You
know
an
issue
that
is
a
real
issue
for
our
city,
particularly
as
it
grows
with
regard
to
our
particular
project.
M
We
do
have
this
home
under
contract
with
someone
who
lives
in
the
neighborhood
who's
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
a
number
of
years
and
they're
just
you
know,
trying
to
build
a
new
home,
and
you
know
when
we
looked
at
what
the
floor
plan
is
that
we're
trying
to
do,
which
is
you
know
this
one
that
we've
been
talking
about
all
night,
you
know
and
showing
them
a
lot.
I
mean
we
think
that
the
reasonable
use
is
to
be
allowed
to
build
the
home
that
we've
proposed.
M
You
know
sit,
you
know,
preserve
the
right-of-way
tree,
preserve
this,
the
24-inch
b6
tree
in
the
back
and
preserve
this
c8
tree,
and
we
think
that
you
know
then
whatever
happens
with
this
tree
that'll
be
between
us
and
the
neighbor.
If
they
want
us
to
peer
a
little
over
that
we
will,
if
not,
then
you
know
we'll
work
that
out
with
them,
but
I
think
that
provides
the
most
reasonable
solution,
for
you
know
reasonable
development.
M
On
the
lot
again,
we've
built
other
homes
on
the
street
they're
very
similar
footprint,
they're
smaller
one
of
them
smaller,
the
other
one.
I
don't
remember
how
big
it
is
and
there's
another
one
on
a
double
a
lot
or
a
lot
and
a
half,
and
so
you
know
this
would
be
pretty
consistent
with
what
we've
been
building
in
the
neighborhood.
What
other
people
have
been
built?
Other
builders
have
been
building
in
the
neighborhood.
M
We've
worked
really
hard
on
the
other
lots
like
this
one
down
the
street
where
we've
you
know,
worked
around
trees
previously,
and
you
know
we're
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
build,
build
a
home
that
you
know
worked
for
our
customer
and
worked
for
the
neighborhood
and
worked
for
preserving
the
tree
and
unfortunately,
on
this
particular
lot,
because
there's
three
trees
on
it
that
are
significant.
It
just
isn't
something
a
place
that
we
were
able
to
get
to.
M
And
yeah,
I
think
that
concludes
concludes
my
my
my
presentation.
I
appreciate
it.
C
C
27-284.2.54
of
the
city
code
for
granting
tree
removal
for
three
basic
reasons.
This
is
a
newly
constructed
home
for
a
single
family
residence.
I
do
believe
there
are
reasonably
able
to
reconfigure
a
single-family
home
on
this
lot
and
you've
seen
some
examples
from
natural
resources
and
your
options.
C
The
tree,
that's
50,
inches
is
protected.
This
is
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
Removing
this
tree
detracts
from
that
character,
and
the
third
that
you
know
cannot
deny
is
that
we
have
22
letters
of
opposition
and
I
believe
there
were
10
people
that
came
tonight
to
also
oppose
this,
so
that
cannot
be
ignored
and
those
are
the
reasons
for
denial.
B
Right,
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
all
right
is
there
need
for
discussion
on
this
motion.
D
I
just
want
to
say
one
thing:
when
you
tell
me:
you've
got
standard
models
that
you
use
on
the
lot,
no
matter
what
the
lot
looks
like
or
has
on
it
or
what
size
it.
Is
that
disturbs
me,
because
this
is
not
I
mean
you've
got
a
tree
here.
You've
got
to
deal
with
it.
You
can't
just
stick
one.
D
You
know
model
a
b
or
c
there
and
expect
that
that
the
neighborhood
is
going
to
be
okay
with
it,
and
I'm
I'm
disappointed
that
that
was
your
answer
to
that
question
because
you
sound
like
you
didn't
even
look
at
something
else
that
would
have
maybe
eased
some
of
this
concern.
B
Well,
since
we're
since
we're
discussing,
I
will
say
that
I'm
struggling
with
this
one,
you
know
I
appreciate
the
builder's
position.
I
appreciate
all
the
folks
that
come
out
taking
down
trees
in
is
probably
one
of
the
most
challenging
issues
that
we
deal
with
for
this
board,
because
we
all
see
the
value
of
trees
to
our
neighborhood.
B
We
all
see
the
benefits
I
mean
personally,
we
all
walk
on
our
streets.
At
times
we
all
drive
through
the
neighborhoods.
We
all
experience
the
benefits
of
these
trees,
but
we
are
also
constrained
by
the
rules
that
are
before
us
and
to
the
extent
that
we
look
at
these
rules
and
see
the
impact
on
a
reasonable
use
it.
You
cannot
say
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
say
a
builder
knew
about
this
tree
and
bought
the
lot
anyway.
B
B
And
I
I
do
see
alternatives
here
that
are
viable.
I
see
an
alternative
that
would
allow
moving
this
up
and
creating
additional
space
moving
it
up
closer
to
the
other
trees.
So
again,
I'm
really
struggling
with
this.
I
see
both
sides
and-
and
I
you
know
frankly-
could
go
either
way
for
me,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
what
other
people
on
this
board
have
to
say
about
it,
but.
K
I
mean,
since
it's
come
up
multiple
times:
builders
buying
a
lot
and
building
something,
and
that
being
the
reason
why
they
can't
build
is
because
they
knew
the
tree
was
there
I
mean,
does
that?
Does
that
go
away?
If
the
homeowner
that
lived
in
the
home
for
50
years
decided
that
the
home
was
no
longer
suitable
for
their
family,
they've
had
two
a
set
of
twins:
they
need
to
grow
a
larger
home
and
they're
here
asking
for
the
tree
removal.
Does
that
make
it
less
egregious?
I
you
know
I
I
don't
think
so.
B
All
right
any
other
comments,
discussion
before
we
go
ahead
and
vote
all
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
deny
say:
aye.
D
B
All
is
posed
all
right
motion
to
deny
is
approved
if
you
wish
to
appeal.
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
B
B
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
back
on
we're
on
22.79.
F
B
F
The
next
case
before
the
board
is
vrb
2279.
This
is
addressed
at
2021,
east
okaloosa
avenue.
The
property
owner
is
dario
rodriguez.
This
is
zoned
rs
50
and
the
request
is
to
remove
a
33
inch
grand
tree
and
a
27
inch
current
tree
for
the
purpose
of
construction
of
a
new
single
family
residence.
The
code
section
in
reference
is
section:
27-284.2.5
has
the
criteria
for
the
removal
of
a
grand
tree.
F
F
This
property
was
originally
one
lot
of
about
a
hundred
by
a
hundred,
and
it
was
split
into
two.
It
was
well
originally
planted
as
three
25-foot
lots
and
one
30-foot
lot,
but
then
they
combined
it
into
one
and
then
the
property
owner
split
it
into
two
rs50
lots
of
50
by
100,
and
this
was
done
through
a
certification
letter.
F
This
on
the
on
the
left
hand,
side
you
have
this
site
plan
with
the
proposed
plan
that
the
applicant
is
putting
forward
for
their
single-family
residence.
The
proposed
plan
does
not
have
a
garage,
so
they
would
need
to
maintain
an
18-foot
driveway
and
transportation
can
speak
to
that.
If
you
have
any
questions
and
on
the
right
side,
we
do
have
a
floor
plan
that
the
applicant
has
put
forward
for
the
proposal
of
the
proposed
plan
for
this
new
single-family
residence.
F
He
has
provided
alternative
plans
as
well
to
show
reasonable
reconfiguration
in
order
to
save
the
two
trees
or
to
see
to
show
that
it's
impossible
to
save
the
two
trees.
F
F
These
are
pictures
showing
the
subject
property
and
the
trees
are
in
the
far
end
at
the
rear
of
the
lot,
the
two
trees
in
question,
and
here
you're,
seeing
the
trees
up
close
and
he's
showing
dimensions.
I
guess
to
show
how
much
house
he
could
potentially
put
on
the
site
and
in
the
picture
to
the
right.
You
see
the
tree,
that
is
in
front
of
the
property.
B
Do
you
have
a
question?
I
actually
have
two
questions.
I
don't
see
an
arborist
report
in
in
this.
Was
there
an
arborist
report
provided.
B
Okay,
second
question:
I
notice
again-
and
this
is
maybe
not
one
you
can
answer,
but
maybe
one
that
you
just
need
to
look
into.
I
notice
again
that
we've
got
in
the
application
the
statement
of
hardship
as
part
of
the
application,
we're
probably
going
to
need
to
look
into
making
sure
that
the
right.
F
F
Q
C
I
have
one
quick
question
I
see
in
the
the
report
from
stephen.
It
said
that
the
protective
radii
were
not
shown
correctly.
Has
that
been
revised
in
our
set?
Are
we
looking
at
the.
F
We
didn't
receive
any
new
plans
from
the
applicant.
R
R
I
I
My
dad
was
a
builder
when
he
went
into
a
lot.
He
didn't
buy
plans.
He
would
he
wasn't
an
architect
either.
He
would
sit
down
at
the
the
dining
room
table
and
figure
out
how
a
house
would
fit
in
the
trees
that
were
around
the
house
to
give
it
a
forested.
A
forested
field.
I
I
would
hope
that
we
can
get
an
arbus
report
for
this.
If
it
does
happen
to
go
away,
we
can
actually
maybe
think
about
that
further
if
this
actually
becomes
something
that
you
do
approve,
but
I
would
urge
you
for
the
tree
codes
for
what
you're
charged
with
doing
to
deny
this
build
and
deny
this
tree
removal.
Thank
you.
I
N
Good
evening
my
name
is
lorraine
perrino.
I
live
at
604
ontario
avenue,
I'm
with
a
group
called
the.
B
B
N
Ago
I
I'm
with
a
group
called
the
tampa
tree
advocacy
group.
We
have
a
facebook
page
and
we
also
have
a
website.
It's
a
one-stop
information
center
for
everything
that
regarding
trees,
I
live
on
davis,
island
and
I've
seen
so
many
trees
come
down.
There
are
whole
blocks
on
davis
island
that
are
devoid
of
trees
because
of
all
the
mcmansions
that
have
gone
up.
N
N
That's
really
a
house,
and
now
it
looks
and
now
there's
no
trees
on
that
lot
at
all.
So
I'm
always
very
interested
in
reading
about
trees.
Last
week,
in
the
a
week
ago,
on
the
tampa
bay
times
front
page,
they
had
an
article
about
south
tampa
and
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhoods
in
south
tampa.
In
that
article,
they
made
mention
of
a
blog
titled,
the
mcmansioning
of
south
tampa.
N
N
The
blogger
has
not
been
able
to
keep
up
with
the
red
amount
of
red
pins.
If
you,
if
you
click
on
that
link,
you'll
see
the
city
of
tampa
and
it's
all
red.
It's
just
covered
in
red
pens
and
in
that
article,
in
the
paper
it
said
that
in
the
last
10
years,
5
000
residential
demolition
permits
were
issued
by
the
city
of
tampa
709
in
2021
alone.
N
So
every
it's
been
my
experience
that
every
house
that
comes
down
has
at
least
one,
maybe
two
three
four
trees
that
come
down
with
it.
So
if
you
do
the
math,
if
709
residential
demolition
permits
were
issued
in
2021
and
only
half
of
those
houses
had
trees
on
them,
yeah
that's
350
trees
and
if
every
one
had
a
tree
on
it,
that's
709
trees
and
if
they
had
more
than
one
tree
on
it,
I
don't
haven't
done
the
math
yet.
N
But
you
know,
as
the
speaker
before
me
said,
the
tree
code
is
there
for
a
reason:
it's
there
to
protect
the
trees,
and
once
one
of
the
reasons
the
tampa
has
such
a
tree,
canopy
that
the
mayor
can
try
brag
about
and
by
the
way,
the
information
she
was
using
was
seven
years
old,
because
the
urban
forestry
study
for
2020
hasn't
even
come
out
yet
so
she's
going
by
the
2015
urban
canopy
study,
which
doesn't
take
into
account
all
these
demolitions
that
had
trees
on
them.
N
The
reason
that
tampa
can
tout
a
tree
canopy
of
this.
What
we
used
to
have
anyway,
is
because
of
the
tree
ordinance,
because
this
tree
orders
protected
trees.
So
you
need
to
adhere
to
the
tree
ordinance.
Thank
you.
O
Pamela
jackson,
haney
3014
west
harbor
view
avenue,
and
I
have
been
sworn
so.
I
finally
learned
by
the
end
of
this
that
I
have
been
sworn
it's.
O
I'm
not
used
to
speaking
off
the
cuff.
I
did
not
prepare
for
this
particular
item
line
item,
but
I
I
wanted
to
come
up
and
and
say
a
few
words
about
it,
because
I
too
appreciate
where
this
homeowner
probably
is
right.
Now
I
mean
he
built,
you
know
he
had
it
changed
into
two
lots.
O
I
understand
you
know
for
reasonable
use.
He
hopes
that
he
can
build
on
this
piece
of
property,
as
he
did
on
the
other
piece
of
property
and
he's
hoping
he
can
get
a
variance
to
take
out
the
two
trees.
O
But
if,
if
the
the
law
is
followed
and
if
we
are
going
to,
you
know,
be
stewards
of
the
law
and
the
things
that
we
have
in
place
here
in
tampa,
I
really
think
that
he
could
probably
rethink
it
and
do
something
else,
for
example
a
lot
of
people
right
now
and
even
the
city
council
they're
talking
about
tiny
houses
and
how
we
need
more
of
those.
O
You
know
I
I
would
like
a
tiny
house
in
my
backyard.
If
I
could-
and
I
you
know,
I'm
always
saying
you
know
tampa
is
very
hot
right
now
I
mean
you
know
whether
you
think
that's
a
great
thing
or
a
bad
thing.
It
is
it's
very
hot.
O
We
have
a
ritz
carlton,
going
up
on
bayshore,
which
just
blows
my
mind
after
being
here
for
30
years,
but
we
could
use
all
sorts
of
different
types
of
houses
and
we
have
to
start
thinking
out
of
the
box,
but
we
also
have
to
save
our
trees
and
follow
the
laws
and
follow
the
codes,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
so.
Please
please
save
these
two
trees.
Thank
you.
B
B
K
Mr
avister,
can
I
steal
you
for
a
moment
and
can
we
throw
that
picture
of
the
from
the
front
to
the
rear
of
the
lot
back
up
on
the
overhead
projector
or
you
guys
have
that
or
if
you.
K
So
I
guess,
since
we
didn't
have
an
arborist
report,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
to
rate
these
trees,
but
I
know
at
some
point
of
tree
quality.
This
type
of
variance
would
not
be
necessary.
G
They're,
both
preservation
quality.
The
one
big
thing
I
want
to
bring
up
is
there's
a
27
and
a
33..
A
27
inch
tree
only
needs
a
15
foot
protective
radius
right
now.
He
has
it
specked
out
as
a
20
foot.
So
that's
a
5
foot
plus
another
five
foot
worth
of
encroachment,
so
you're
talking
10
foot.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
and
then
sorry
what
other.
K
Oh
so
yeah
I
was,
I
was
getting
two.
This
is
even
better
than
I
was
hoping
for.
Thank
you.
I
got
off
top,
so
the
27
footer
is
the
one
in
the
middle
correct.
Yes,
so
now
we're
the
33
we're
coming
we're
coming
10
feet
closer
to
that
guy
and
then
the
other
one.
We
can
still
come
five
feet
closer.
I
believe
it's
a
20-foot
setback,
but
with
spading
heat
speeding,
we
can
move
another
five
feet
in
correct.
L
G
L
C
L
K
G
G
I
took
the
house
plant,
he
had
that
was
already
approved
for
the
lot
next
door
and
just
scaled
it
over.
That's!
What's
on
the
memo,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
got
that
second
page.
G
K
G
Next
door:
okay,
that,
I
think,
is
already
under
construction,
so
I
just
used
that,
because
my
the
planes
I
got
were
not
scaled,
so
I
printed
everything
off
and
traced
it
all
out
and
put
it
on
paper.
G
C
It
was
kind
of
going
off
of
what
you
were
saying,
but
for
that
corner
tree
and
there's
such
a
big
setback
from
the
actual
street.
So
here
it
says
15,
you
know
on
the
revised
plan,
but
it
seems
like
if
there
was
a
variance
to
make
that
even
shorter
to
make
the
house
bigger.
You
know
he
could
come
back
with
that.
You
know
so.
It
seems
like
there's
just
a
lot
of
different
options.
C
F
B
A
F
B
Right,
thank
you.
That's
all.
I
need
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant
for
the
applicant
for
anyone.
Frankly,
any
other
questions
nope
all
right.
Well
then,
I
will
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal
to
respond
to
any
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
or
to
respond
to
anything
that
members
of
the
audience.
F
R
L
R
R
R
L
So
I
built
homes
in
sulphur
springs
area
and
there
was
one
house
in
particular
that
there
was
a
tree
that
was
the
sick,
that
it
was
the
three
that
had
problems,
but
there
were
seven
trees
in
that
area
and
we
tried
to
remove
them,
but
because
of
the
city
rules,
we
were
not
able
to
move
them.
When
the
gentleman
that
came
to
see
it
say,
hey
what's
happening
here.
This
is
a
forest.
L
A
B
J
Failed
to
provide
a
reasonable
alternative
failed
to
provide
examples
of
homes
that
could
be
reasonably
reconfigured,
as
evidenced
by
you
know.
Testimony
from
that.
We
heard
this
evening.
A
B
All
right,
we
have
a
second
on
his
powers.
Is
there
a
need
for
discussion
on
this
motion
all
right,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
denial
say
aye,
any
opposed.
B
All
right
motion
to
deny
passes,
sir.
You
have
14
days
from
the
issuance
of
a
written
denial
if
you'd
like
to
appeal.
F
All
right,
the
next
case
before
the
ward
is
vrb
2267.
This
is
addressed
at
9413
north
22nd
street.
The
property
owner
is
charles
sanders
and
this
is
owned.
Rs60
residential
single
family.
The
request
is
to
reduce
the
side,
yard
setback
from
seven
feet
to
three
feet
and
the
rare
yard
set
back
from
20
feet
to
five
feet
for
a
detached
combat
patio.
F
F
This
is
an
ariel
showing
the
subject:
property
well
wrong,
ariel
my
apologies,
but
this
the
properties
and
is
in
the
usf
institutional
planning
district.
This
is
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
provided,
showing
us
the
existing
structures
on
the
property
and
in
the
black
is
the
proposed
addition
for
a
patio.
F
This
was
reviewed
by
right
away
and
found
consistent
with
no
comments.
Natural
resources
found
them
inconsistent
and
they
provided
memo
which
was
attached
in
the
reports,
and
they
do
have
concerns
regarding
hardly
that
car
lift
that
is
currently
on
the
property
potential
impacts
of
the
tree.
Canopy
transportation
reviewed
and
had
no
comments.
F
We
have
received
no
letters
of
support
or
objection
for
this
variance
request
before
you,
and
these
are
pictures
that
were
taken
by
stephen
when
he
went
out
to
the
site
and
in
the
rear
there.
You
see
the
card
lift
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
F
B
P
A
P
This
is
an
existing
building
that
was
built
over
40
years
in
the
backyard
and
that
now
the
reason
well
anyway,
my
I'm
totally
caught
off
guard
with
this,
because
I'm
not
the
builder
or
whatever
anyway.
Basically,
what
I'm
trying
to
get
permitted
and
it's
been
a
year
in
the
process
I've
had
surveys.
I've
had
runoff
people.
I
did
not
know
anything
about
tree
canopy,
because
it's
all
high
enough
to
where
this
would
not
be
interfering
with
that
at
all
the
automotive
lifts
that
was
listed
there.
Yes,
that
does
exist.
P
It's
been
there
for
two
three
years
now
I
am
a
retired
automotive
instructor.
I
do
have
classic
cars
that
I
do
work
on
and
you
know
it's
for
my
own
use,
I'm
73
years
old
and
I
can
no
longer
work
off
a
floor,
jack
and
jack
stands
and
stuff,
like
that.
P
The
idea
for
the
cover
over
the
over
the
carport
out
here
basically,
is
that
the
work
area
next
to
the
hoist
I'd
like
to
convert
that
into
like
a
small
picnic
area,
with
a
picnic
table
and
stuff
like
that
or
whatever,
and
that
the
reason
that
I
have
contacted
this
builder
these
these,
it's
basically
like
a
portable
car
park.
It
is
it's
not
a
permanent
structure,
it
bolts
to
the
actual
patio
it
doesn't
bolt
to
or
hook
any
way
to
the
existing
structure.
That's
there,
but
it
does.
P
You
know
we'll
cover
that
to
where
we
can
do
that
out
there
just
a
little
protection
from
the
the
environments
for
me
being
out
there
and
and
that
you
know,
piece
of
equipment.
That's
out
there
when
I'm
doing
some
work
out
there.
You
know
I
just
you
know
I
did
when
you
see
him
going
up
his
carports
in
front
of
the
house.
This
is
an
upscale
type.
P
Right
now,
so
I
don't
know
the
reason
you
know
it
probably
would
be
a
better
presentation
if
my
contractor
was
here
but
due
to
some
covet
stuff
which
the
latest
from
last
month-
and
you
know
and
all
that
is
why
they're
not
here
representing
me.
But
you
know
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
the
technical
stuff
out
there.
P
You
know,
but
all
I
know
is
that
this
permitting
process
is
a
lot
longer
than
what
I
believe
the
file
date
for
this
permit
was
march
of
21,
and
I've
done
everything
that
they've
asked
us
to
do.
P
I
own
three
of
them
and
you
know
it's
pretty
much
what
I'm
doing
with
my
retirement.
So
I
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say:
that's
pretty
much!
Well,
I've
I've
jumped
I've
never
jumped
through.
So
many
hoops
you
get
that
done,
but
it's
been
a
long
time
this
this
building,
you
know
my
backyard.
It's
been
there,
my
daughter's
42
years
old,
so
it
was
built
when
my
wife
was
pregnant
with
her.
So
it's
been
there
a
long
time
and
you
know
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
in
that
area
there
on.
P
I
grew
up
in
that
area,
so
I've
been
there
a
long
time.
So
that's
that's
all
I
have
to
say
I
don't
they
didn't
give
me
any
pictures
or
anything
like
that.
I
was
told
that
they
were
already
submitted
to
the
to
the
committee
to
look
at
prior
to
me
coming
tonight.
So,
okay.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Does
that
complete
your
presentation
this
evening.
P
B
Seeing
none
does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
petitioner
for
staff?
B
I
have
one
so
do
we
have
a
copy
of
the
of
the
site
plan
that
we
could
put
up
or
that
we
could
put
on
the
element.
B
Perfect,
all
right,
sir,
you
want
to
come
back
up
sure
all
right.
So
let's
talk
about
what
exists
and
what
is
being
proposed
so
that
one
story
building
that
that
rectangle
in
the
back.
That's.
P
P
That
building
was
built
in
1979
when
my
daughter,
wife
was
pregnant
with
my
daughter,
okay,
it
was
a
permitted
structure,
it
was
built
there
and
believe
it
or
not.
I
believe
we
had
a
variance
because
it
was
too
close
to
the
back
line
or
something
from
way
back
in
that
day
and
that
to
have
that
building
put
in.
B
Okay
and
then
so
that
that
black
box
coming
off
the
side
of
that,
that's
where
the
lift
exists,
yeah.
P
P
B
Cover
over
it,
so
that
you
could
work
under
under
cover,
instead
of
out
the
side.
P
B
B
That
piece
is
going
to
track
the
same
rear
line
as
the
existing
building.
B
And-
and
it
needs
to
come
within
three
feet
of
the
side-
is
that
what
you're
saying
there.
P
The
patio
the
existing
slab
in
there
they
they
got
the
dimensions
I
think
for
the
I
thought
they
had
sent
all
this
stuff
up,
but
with
all
this
stuff
recovered
in
there
yeah.
I
guess
my.
B
Question
is
this,
sir
okay,
so
I
get
that
because
of
the
size
of
this
structure,
we
need
to
meet
some
setbacks,
which
then
pushes
it
from
20
to
five
on
the
rear
setback,
but
the
rear
setback
is
tracking
right
along
the
same
line.
My
question
is:
why
does
is
it
possible
to
meet
that
side
setback
of
seven
feet
instead
of
three
feet.
P
It
would
move
it
to
the
the
actual
structure
size
that
we've
applied
for
is
a
25
by
26
to
go
over
that.
B
Yeah
so
explain
to
me
if
you
want
to
go
up
to
three
feet
on
the
side,
explain
to
me
why
it
needs
to
go
to
three
feet
instead
of
seven
feet
on
the
side.
Is
there
any
reason
why
you
couldn't
meet
that
side
setback
and
if
there
is
tell
tell
me
why.
P
On
which
side
the
to
the
property
line,
yeah.
P
Yeah
because
it,
the
patio,
goes
that
far
over
there,
the
slab-
oh
the.
P
B
B
P
B
Is
it
possible
that
we
could
just
shift
it
over
to
if
we
were
to
say
grant
you
the
rear
yard
setback
just
talking
hypotheticals?
Here
we
were
to
grant
you
that
rear
yard
setback,
because
you've
already
got
a
building
that
runs
right
along
that
line
right,
but
we
could
still
meet
your
side
yard
setback.
Is
that
something
you
could
work
with,
or
is
there
some
reason
why
you
need
to
have
it
go
in
three
feet,
step
seven.
P
I
could
just
have
them
yeah.
I
could
shorten
the
you
know
to
get
the
cover
and
yeah.
We
could
pull
it
in.
Okay,.
P
P
D
P
P
I
mean
we
do
park
back
there
or
something,
but
I
mean
no,
it's
not
parking.
I
have
plenty
of
parking
in
the
front
of
the
house.
There's
a
you
know,
it's
a
double
garage
on
the
front
of
the
house
and
most
of
the
parking
is
done
on
that.
I
do
park
my
truck
on
that
existing
slab
in
the
back
back
there,
but
the
grass
itself.
Sometimes
we
do
you
know
I
have
a
trailer
for
my
classic
cars
that
sometimes
parks
back
on
the
grass
back
there
on
that.
But
we
did
some
kind
of
a.
P
P
A
B
Tell
me
about
any
off-site
trees
or
concerns
that
you
have
with
the
with
putting
this
cover
out
there.
Is
there
any
issues
that
we're
talking
about
yeah.
G
S
B
Bring
in
that
unit,
okay!
Well,
let
me
let
me
ask
you
that
question
sir
does:
does
the
new
cover
follow
the
same
roof
line
as
the
existing
one-story
building?
That's
behind
your
house.
P
K
Yes,
sir,
go
ahead
in
the
event
that
this
does
move
towards
some
approval
of
some
sort.
You
know
this
variance
moves
forward
with
the
property.
Would
you
be
willing
to
a
condition
that
this
patio,
this
covered
patio,
remain
open
to
be
never
enclosed
in
the
future?.
P
Oh
yeah,
oh
definitely
yeah
yeah,
I'm
not
very
good
trust
me.
I
have
enough
storage
for
rusty
car
parks
over
the
years
and
you
have
a
house
that
has
a
double
garage
on
the
front
of
it
and
then
you
have
a
double
garage
with
another
single
tide
in
the
backyard.
I
have
plenty
of
space
like
that.
No,
it
would
never
be
no
perfect.
Thank
you.
No.
P
That's
not
that's,
not
the
this
company
does
do
that,
and
I
realize
that
they
do
make
some
real
nice
double
garages
out
of
these
whatever.
But
no,
this
is
basically
a
canopy.
It
probably
won't
even
have
a
side
that
comes
down
more
than
about
three
foot
from
the
roof
at
the
most
to
cover.
It's
definitely
going
to
be
an
open
air
structure
and
all
that
just
a
little
extra
protection.
B
P
I
am
I'm
good,
the
only
thing
is
well,
however,
it
goes
if
this
is
approved
now
we
will
be
approving
a
re-configured
cover,
in
other
words,
it'll
be
shorter.
P
P
You
know
when
I
see
him
going
up
in
the
neighborhood
and
of
course
I
will
not
guarantee
you
know
that
they
got
permits
for
him,
but
but
I
did
this
one
the
way
I
you
know
thought
it
was
supposed
to
be
done.
B
You
guys,
okay,
well
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board
or
discussion.
If
necessary.
Does
anyone
have
a
motion.
K
B
K
A
motion
go
forward,
sir.
I'm
going
to
be
giving
a
bifurcated
motion
here:
okay,
we're
going
to
start
with
the
one
with
conditions.
Would
you
like
to
do
the
other
one?
First?
Well,.
B
You
do
whatever
you'd
like,
but
hypothetically.
If
your
bifurcation
of
the
motion
is
to
actually
now
you're
you
do
it.
That's
they're
gonna
tell
me
that
I
was
gonna.
Do
something
else
there
you
go.
K
I
don't
see
any
health
safety
hazards.
It
is
in
harmony
with
the
neighborhood,
as
there
are
other
existing
sheds.
This
will
provide
additional
shelter
for
the
homeowner
while
outside
and
he
has
agreed
to
the
additional
condition
of
never
being
enclosed.
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
rear
yard
setback
reduction
from
20
to
five
conditioned
upon
it
being
unenclosed.
Is
there
a
second?
Second?
All
right?
Is
there
any
need
for
discussion
on
the
motion
scene?
None,
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
all
those
in
favor
of
the
approval
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
to
five
with
the
condition
say:
aye
any
oppose
all
right
that
one
passes
six
to
nothing.
Okay,
all.
B
All
right
keep
it
consistent.
Thank
you
any
need
for
discussion
on
this
motion.
Seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
denial
say,
aye
any
opposed,
hey
all
right.
So,
sir,
you
got
your.
You
got
your
approval
of
everything,
except
you
got
to
just
keep
it
at
seven
feet
on
the
side
instead
of
three,
so
you
should
be
good
to
go
and
you
can
talk
to
staff
about
timing
that
so.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
evening.
F
F
F
F
This
is
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
provided,
showing
us
the
existing
conditions
and,
where
they're
looking
to
their
their
they're,
requesting
those
setback,
reductions
3.4
on
the
side
toward
the
west
and
three
feet
towards
the
the
rare
yard,
which
is
towards
the
north.
F
F
Natural
resources
found
them
consistent
with
conditions
that
they
comply
with
all
applicable
sections
of
27
chapters,
27
tampa
city
of
tampa
tree
and
landscape,
technical
manuel
at
the
time
of
permitting
transportation,
reviewed
and
found
them
consistent.
With
no
comments
we
received.
No
letters
of
objection
or
support
for
this
variance.
Request
and
staff
did
not
provide
any
memos.
F
The
applicant
provided
pictures
showing
the
pool
it's
an
existing
pool
and
the
patio
is
existing
as
well,
so
they
are
looking
to
enclose
the
patio
as
it
currently
exists
in
the
determination
of
the
variance
request
before
you.
The
board
shall
consider
section
27-80
the
criteria
for
the
approval
or
denial
of
the
variance
request.
B
T
B
T
T
And
I
have
been
sworn
in:
yes,
sorry,
so,
basically
what
we
are
trying
to
do.
T
T
Okay,
so
what
we
are
wanting
to
do
is
we
are
running
to
build
a
18
by
40,
mansur
style
pool
enclosure
for
heather
casagrande.
She
is
the
homeowner
and
presently
here
she
bought
the
house
in
2021.
T
Under
the
under
the
understanding
that
she
could
have
a
pool
enclosure
put
on
if
wanted,
the
pool
was
obviously
built
before
she
bought
the
house
in
2015.
T
B
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
heather
casagrande,
I'm
the
owner
of
4021
west
in
louis
street.
I
have
been
sworn
thanks,
so
the
hardship
is
my
understanding
when
I
tried
to
go
through
permitting
to
obtain
this
full
enclosure
and
she's
correct.
The
reason
I
sought
to
do
so
is
because,
despite
every
effort
that
I've
made
to
control
mosquitoes
through
pest
control
services
spraying,
what
have
you
my
son
has
severe
allergic
reactions.
We
cannot
enjoy
the
backyard
at
all
for
most
of
the
year
here
in
tampa,
so
I
sought
to
have
a
permit.
Q
I
was
shocked
to
hear
that
it
was
denied.
I
had
no
idea
that
the
pool
was
built
in
the
setback.
It
was
properly
permitted
back
in
2015..
The
house
is
also
apparently
built
in
the
setback,
which
I
of
course
had
no
idea
of.
When
I
purchased
the
home
as
well.
I
did
move
there
to
be
in
his
school
district
to
send
him
to
roosevelt.
Q
I
do
not
wish
to
move,
but
it
is
such
a
big
issue
that
it
is
a
major
concern
to
me.
I
don't
see
how
it
would
impose
on
my
neighbors
as
it's
not
going
to
exceed
the
current
pavers
that
are
already
there.
The
pool
again
has
been
there
for
the
past
six
years
and
will
not.
It
will
not
encroach
on
the
the
yard
space
at
all
which
is
minimal
anyway.
So
I
I
you
know,
I
don't
see
how
it
would
impose
any.
Q
You
know
public
safety
threat
or
difficulty
for
my
neighbors
in
any
way
if
the
variants
were
to
be
granted.
So
that's
all.
B
Okay.
Anyone
else
in
the
audience
would
like
to
speak
on
this
petition,
seeing
none
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions
from
the
board,
for
the
petitioner,
for
the
agent
or
for
any
city
staff.
C
Have
a
question
for
the
petitioner:
is
there
a
reason
why
you
can't
meet
the
setbacks
and
put
the.
T
T
T
J
You
mentioned
an
easement
issue.
Can
you
explain
that
a
little
bit.
T
So
from
what
I've
gathered,
when
I
tried
to
pull
the
permit,
I
was
told
that
just
the
the
permit
perimeter-
sorry
that
we
did
it
that
we
applied
for
just
were
not.
It
was
encroaching
in
a
certain
easement
that
we
were
not
allowed
to
build
in.
I'm
very
sorry,
I'm
not
super
construction
friendly.
So
I
can't
really
explain
more
than
that.
I
just
kind
of
go
off
of
what
I'm
told
when
I
apply
for
the
permit.
J
Oh,
can
city
staff
speak
to
like
where
this
easement
is
or
what
easement,
I
guess,
was
brought
up
to
the
applicant.
A
Jonathan
scott
transportation
planning:
do
you
have
your
survey
or
anything.
A
Oh
okay,
that's
where
utilities
are
right:
yeah,
yeah,
there's,
probably
utility
easement
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
from
the
utilities.
So
usually
you
have
like
a
10
feet
from
the
power
line,
so
they
can
maintain
it
and
stuff.
That's
probably
what
she's
referring
to
I'm
assuming
that's!
Yes,.
A
T
T
No,
there
is
no
power
poles.
I
can
show
you
guys
pictures
and
there's
no
trees
to
take
down
we're
just
putting
on
how
do.
I
know
if
I'm
doing
this
right.
Okay,
okay,
so,
as
you
see,
there's
no
power
poles.
The
fence
line
is
back
here
and
we're
just
putting
the
pull
enclosure
on
the
existing
pavers
that
were
there
when
she
had
bought
the
house.
D
Whole
side
that
the
property
line
on,
I
guess
on
on
the
left
side,
the
west
side.
Yes,
the
entire
house
is
only
about
three
feet
from
the
property
line.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
A
K
A
K
A
B
T
I
don't
really
necessarily
have
a
rebuttal.
I
just
know
that
we
would
really
like
to
do
this,
and
I
don't
see
where
it's
going
to
have
an
issue.
I
know
her
next
door.
Neighbor
also
has
a
pool
enclosure
as
well,
so
I
don't
feel
like
it
would
be
any
kind
of
eyesore
or
anything
like
that.
C
I
just
wanted
to
discuss.
I
always
have
an
issue
with
setbacks,
less
than
five
feet
for
emergency
purposes
or
just
general
maintenance
of
the
house,
and
this
situation
is
even
you
know
more
interesting
because
the
house
doesn't
meet.
You
know
the
current
setback
on
the
west
side,
so
everything's
really
pinched
so
tight,
even.
C
Yeah
six
650,
but
I
always
feel
like
five
feet
is
like
in
my
head
kind
of
a
safe,
a
safety
kind
of
setback
in
terms
of
a
minimum.
So
I
have
a
hard
time
accepting
enclosures
that
go
within
or
under
five
feet.
K
May
not
have
put
forth
enough
effort
in
figuring
out
why
the
additional
four
foot
monument
is
there
and
why
that
would
give
you
the
setback.
You
know
at
some
point,
I'm
assuming
that
must
have
been
the
monument.
This
lot
must
have
been
shown
as
54
feet
wide
as
measured,
and
that's
why
it
was
able
to
be
built
this
way.
So.
B
K
All
right,
I
move
that
the
variance
request
for
case
vrb
22-77
for
the
property
located
at
4021
west
san
luis
street,
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
in
the
rear
yard
setback
from
five
feet
to
three
feet
and
the
west
side
set
back
from
five
feet
to
three
point
four
feet
based
upon
the
african
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
for
an
unnecessary
hardship
of
practical
difficulty.
K
B
Because
it's
a
pool
enclosure
because
it's
a
screen
enclosure-
I
don't
know
that
it's
necessary,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
legal
staff
staff
folks
do
we
need
to?
We
don't
need
a
condition,
a
screen
enclosure
that
it
not
be
enclosed
or
do
we.
E
E
Legal
department,
I
mean,
if
it's
for
a
pool
enclosure.
You
know
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
speculate
on,
how
somebody
might
read
that
in
the
future.
But
if
you
would
like
for
it
to
remain
open
air
and
not
enclosed
with
walls,
then
what.
K
E
A
E
A
B
All
right
is
there
a
second
to
the
motion.
Second,
all
right
is
there
a
need
for
discussion
on
the
motion,
seeing
none
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
approve
say
I
was
opposed.
F
The
next
case
is
vrb
2278..
This
is
addressed
at
4116
west
layla
avenue.
It
is
zoned
rs,
60,
residential
single
family,
the
property
owner
is
brian
mellow,
and
the
variance
request
is
to
reduce
the
frontier
setback
from
25
feet
to
20
feet
and
the
rarer
setback
from
we
had
to
make
a
correction
or
make
an
amendment
to
the
variance
request,
because
even
the
building
require
requested
that
he
require
he
required
a
variance
for
the
rare
yard
setback.
F
We
determined
that
he
didn't
need
that
so,
even
though
he
noticed
for
it
he's
not
needing
a
rare
setback,
so
this
would
be
for
the
front
yard
setback
only
from
25
to
20
to
build
an
attached
garage
and
the
code
section
in
reference
is
section
27-156
the
table
that
has
the
schedule
of
area
bulk
and
height
placement
regulations
for
the
rs60
zoning
district
as
25
feet
for
the
front
20
feet
for
the
rear
and
7
feet
for
the
sides,
and
this
is
the
subject
property.
It
is
a
corner
lot
in
the
south.
F
F
And
he
provided
rendering
showing
what
that
would
look
like.
This
was
reviewed
by
right
of
way,
with
no
and
found
consistent
with
no
comments.
F
This
was
reviewed
by
natural
resources
found
consistent
with
conditions
that
they
comply
with
the
city
of
tampa
tree
and
landscape
technical
manual
at
the
time
of
permitting
reviewed
by
transportation
and
found
consistent
as
well
with
no
comments,
we
have
one
letter
of
support
from
stephanie
poinor,
no
letters
of
objection
and
the
stat
staff
did
not
provide
any
memos
in
the
determination
of
the
variance
request
before
you.
The
board
shall
consider
section
27-80
that
has
the
criteria
for
the
approval
or
denial
of
the
variance
request,
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
will
be
available.
F
Not
quite
lelie
is
this
front?
Okay,
because
even
though
it's
it's
oddly
shaped,
we
do,
he
does
have
a
narrow,
narrower
part
of
the
lot,
which
is
layla
and
that's
what
we
would
technically
consider
as
a
front
end.
Zoning
okay.
B
P
G
P
A
A
That
the
home,
it's
a
single-family
home
currently
doesn't
have
a
garage
so
we're
trying
to
build
a
one-car
garage
on
the
north
side
of
the
home.
It's
an
odd
shaped
lot
very
unique
actually,
and
it
does
appear
to
have
two
front
yard
setbacks.
So.
P
B
Awesome:
okay:
does
that
conclude
your
presentation
or
you
have
more
for
us.
B
Okay,
fair
enough!
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
about
this
petition?
Seeing
you
want
to
talk
about
it,
come
on
up
yeah.
B
B
Questions
beautifully
done
all
right.
Oh
good
job,
all
right!
Thank
you!
Okay,
anyone
else
in
the
audience
seeing
none.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
petitioner.
B
No,
it's
really
that
straightforward!
Okay,
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
Should
you
choose
to
use
it.
B
Okay.
Well,
then,
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board
miss
walmart.
Do
you
want
to
make
a
motion?
Well.
D
Who
no
staff
so
20
feet
six
inches?
Didn't
we
get
the
reduction
in
front
yard
setbacks
with?
Is
that
not
applicable
in
this
neighborhood?
You
know
how
we
had
the
whole
thing
on
the
porches
and
how
you
could?
No,
because
this.
D
D
Presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
in
front
yard,
setback
from
25
feet
to
20
feet
to
build
an
attached
garage
upon
the
applicant,
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
D
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
it
has
it's
an
irregular
shaped
lot.
Yes,.
B
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second.
N
B
F
Yes,
the
next
case
before
the
board
is
brb
2280.
This
is
addressed
at
4224,
west
barcelona
avenue
up
street,
I'm
sorry
and
the
property
owners
are
cameron
and
brittany
brown.
F
F
This
is
an
area
showing
subject
property
highlighted
in
the
dash
or
in
the
orange
dash.
It's
a
corner
lot
in
the
south,
tampa
planning
district,
it's
right
there
at
the
intersection
of
south
herbert
and
west
barcelona
avenue.
F
I
keep
saying
avenue,
I'm
sorry
street,
and
this
is
the
side
plan
of
the
proposed
new
single
family
residence.
F
F
These
are
pictures
that
the
applicant
has
provided
showing
the
subject
property.
F
This
was
reviewed
by
right
of
way
and
found
consistent
window
comments,
natural
resources,
reviewed
and
found
consistent
with
conditions,
with
the
comments
that
the
grand
laureal
oak
in
front
of
the
property
is
rated
at
c10.
The
owner
would
like
to
preserve
the
tree
and
continue
to
maintain
it.
The
driveway
is
currently
on
south
herbert
leaving
it.
F
There
would
create
less
impact
for
the
grand
laurel
oak
and
they
found
it
consistent
with
conditions
that
they
comply
with
the
city
of
tampa
tree
and
landscape
code
at
the
time
of
permitting
transportation
reviewed
this
and
found
it
consistent
with
no
comments.
We
received
new
letters
of
objection
or
support
for
this
variance
request
and
staff
included
no
memos
for
the
determination
of
the
variance
request
before
you.
The
board
shall
consider
section
27-80
as
the
criteria
for
review
approving
or
denying
a
variance
request.
G
Brown
4224
west
barcelona
and
I
have
been
sworn
in
so
yeah.
The
the
variance
setbacks
for
ours
100
to
150
has
made
it
difficult,
my
family's
getting
bigger
second
daughter
on
the
way
we
know
we
need
a
bigger
home.
We
know
the
environment
right
now.
Prices
are
kind
of
skyrocketing
so
to
tap
into
the
equity.
We've
made
we're
exploring
building
a
home.
I
love
that
oak
tree
in
the
front
of
the
yard.
G
It's
preventing
us
from
being
able
to
look
at
a
front
entry
garage
because
it's
nearest
the
stop
sign,
and
that
puts
it
on
the
side
street
of
hubert.
In
order
to
have
kind
of
an
open.
You
know
living
room
to
outdoor
area.
We
have
to
be
very
creative
with
how
we're
designing
the
house.
So
ms
wallrap,
you
kind
of
mentioned,
you
know,
get
creative
with
your
design.
We
went
to
an
architect.
We
did
that
we're
making
the
best
use
of
the
space
we
possibly
can
nothing
to
really
add.
S
B
So
you're
moving
the
garage
in
order
to
protect
those
grand
trees,
you're
putting
the
garage
on
the
other
side
and
that's
what
causes
you
to
need
to
move
into.
The
setback.
G
Technically,
we
don't
have
a
garage
now
we're
parking
out
an
open
space
so
for
the
new.
H
G
I
think
it's
actually
greater
than
that.
I.
K
K
G
K
G
D
B
B
Just
wanted
to
confirm
anyone
want
to
make
motion.
J
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
alleged
hardships
are
unique
and
singular
to
this
property
as
it's
both
a
corner
lot
and
it
is,
it
is
narrower
than
than
what
it
is
zoned
for
and
as
a
result,
you
know
the
the
required
setbacks.
Don't
quite
mesh
with
the
available
square
footage
on
the
property.
B
F
F
F
F
And
the
comments
saying
that
they
needed
to
provide
an
updated
site
plan
and
that
the
site
plan
was
unclear
and
the
dimensions
could
not
be
read.
The
applicant
did
come
back
and
provide
the
site
plans
to
the
city,
and
this
is
required
in
order
to
determine
the
home's
distance
from
the
grand
tree
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
property.
F
The
protective
bridges
is
also
required
to
be
shown
around
the
tree.
The
protective
regions
were
not
shown
on
the
plants
that
were
provided
transportation,
did
review
and
find
it
inconsistent
with
code
with
the
following
comments.
Transportation
has
no
objection
to
the
requested
variants
for
information
purposes
during
construction
permitting
the
property
we
need
to
comply
with
chapter
22-103
for
sidewalks,
and
the
code
requires
a
five
foot
sidewalk
to
be
constructed
in
public
right
of
way
along
the
full
length
of
any
and
all
streets
to
connect
with
existing
sidewalks
above
in
the
property.
F
F
It's
it's
just
a
really
bad
scan
and
as
much
as
we
try
to
you
know
he
he
probably
has
something
better,
but
it
was
just
a
really
bad
scan.
So,
even
when
he
came
into
the
office,
we
did
we're
able
to
see
the
dimensions
just
that
he
hasn't.
He
doesn't
have
the
protective
radius
on
the
trees.
I
know
that
there's
a
there's,
an
oak
right
there
and
there's
another
one
right.
F
S
Your
convincement
sorry,
my
name,
is
paul
dizzy.
The
address
is
8501
story
in
my
video
I
was
sorry
perfect.
All.
S
S
I
went
on
the
process
to
get
it
confirming
make
sure
it's
there
and
after
that
I
went
to
see
the
design
if
they
could.
If
I
can
build
a
house,
they
required
me
to
get
a
seat
back
by
designing
the
video
for
me
and
put
the
plane
together
and
that's
why
I
require
this
feedback
to
see.
If
I
can
build
that
path,.
B
Okay,
does
that
complete
your
presentation
today?
Yes,
okay,
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
petition,
seeing
none
anyone
on
the
board
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
K
K
Two
stars:
yeah
okay
and
the
total
square
feet
of
what
you're
building
is
1300.
Yes,
that's
an
interesting,
okay,
very
good.
Actually,
my
next
question
is
for
mr
scott.
K
K
A
M
Options,
but
you
can
always
ask
for
an
alternative
driveway
design
if
it
there's
no
other
options,
but.
K
And
in
addition
to
the
he
wants
to
reduce
the
parking
spaces
from
two
to
one
way
and
I'm
looking
at
the
site
plan,
I
see
a
driveway
in
a
garage.
Is
that
correct,
yeah.
A
It's
he
could.
Probably
the
thing
is
like
technically,
he
has
to
meet
the
code.
You'd
have
to
have
two
nine
by
18
spaces
on
his
property
so
like
he
can
only
fit
one
in
the
garage
and
then
that
one
in
the
driveway
kind
of
sticks
over
on
the
past
his
property
line
a
little
bit.
You
know
so
really
he'll
park
there
anyways,
but
it's
technically.
You
can't
count
as
a
space.
So
it's
a
okay,
so.
A
K
M
A
M
B
Anyone
else
all
right,
seeing
none.
You
have
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
J
I
move
that
the
variance
request
for
case
vrb
22-81
for
property,
located
at
8501
north
suwanee
avenue
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
of
the
front
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
12
feet,
a
reduction
of
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
10
feet
and
a
reduction
of
their
required
parking
spaces
from
two
two
to
one
based
upon
the
applicant
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
J
As
right-of-way
transportation
have
confirmed
that.
You
know,
during
permitting
they'll
make
sure
that
the
appropriate
site
angles
are
met.
F
F
F
Floor
plan
showing
the
first
and
the
second
level
with
the
two-car
garage
in
this
instance,
this
was
reviewed
by
right-of-way
and
found
consistent
with
no
comments.
This
was
also
reviewed
by
natural
resources
and
found
consistent
reconditions
that
they
comply
with
the
city
of
tree
on
landscape
covet
at
the
time
of
permitting
transportation,
also
found
them
consistent
with
no
comments.
F
F
B
S
S
The
same
thing-
everybody
I
have
the
prophecy
and
the
auction
because
I
buy
like
five
luck
on
the
county
on
the
city
campus,
so
on
the
ocean.
I'm
trying
to
see
beat
I'll
go
to
the
ver
conforming
and
to
go
to
the
event
to
see.
If
I
can
build
that,
I
was
there,
but
the
city
have
on
small,
like
twenty
four
on
fun
on
me.
I
actually
feel
they
will
sell
it.
I
went
there
to
ask
the
the
real
estate
department
they
sell
me.
No,
they
cannot
sell
it
to
me.
S
They
will
be
on
that,
but
that
one
I
have
so
I'll
try
to
see.
If
I
can
get
great
to
build.
Oh
single
family,
there
just
start.
Thank
you.
B
B
Does
anyone
on
the
board
have
any
questions?
What
is
the
size
of
the
house
that
you're
building
on
this.
B
15.
a
little
bit
bigger
yeah
and
you
managed
to
get
a
two-car
garage
on
this
one.
Yes,
all
right,
any
other
questions,
nope
all
right!
You
have
five
minutes
per
republic.
Thank
you,
okay.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
motion
from
the
board.
J
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
practical
difficulties
are
unique
to
this
property
as
it
was
purchased
at.
As
excuse
me,
that
has
been
determined
to
be
legal
non-conforming.
It's
a
particularly
small
lot
and
there
are
no
health
safety
or
welfare
concerns
that
have
been
raised.
C
B
Right
motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
wait
is
there
any
for
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
any
post
all
right
approved.
Now
you
get
to
have
a
great
night.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
F
F
The
code
section
references
section,
27-290,
accessory
structures
set
back
in
rs
75.
Zoning
district
are
60
feet
for
the
front
three
for
the
rear,
three
for
the
side
and
15
on
the
corner.
F
F
This
was
also
reviewed
by
wastewater
and
found,
and
they
were
denied
with
the
comment
that
the
survey
needs
to
show
the
location
of
the
terminal
manholes
located
in
the
rear
of
the
property
and
its
proximity
to
the
new
addition.
Additionally,
this
property
is
either
sell,
bilateral
to
the
sewer
main
located
in
the
rear
of
the
property
or
the
sewer
main
located
in
west
san
rafael.
F
We
receive
no
letters
of
objection
or
support,
and
that's
that's
it
so
in
the
determination
of
the
various
requests
before
you,
the
board
shall
consider
section
27
80
as
the
criteria
for
the
approval
or
denial
of
the
various
requests
before
you.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
will
be
available.
B
G
The
comment
regarding
the
the
sewer
line-
it's
actually
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
the
house
is
not
connected
to
that
at
least
when
they
dug
the
pool
they
didn't
find
anything.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
maintain
a
multi-generational
home
there's
three
generations
in
this
home.
G
They,
the
grandparents,
have
a
handicap
access
fan
and
basically
because
this
accessory
structure
will
be
kind
of
a
daily
living
space
for
them.
We're
proposing
that
the
van
parks
in
that
structure,
because
it's
a
flood
plain
home
this
has
to
be
elevated
to
elevation
12..
G
The
existing
house
is
at
11.42,
we'll
we'll
mediate
that,
through
the
the
raised
patio
slab
pools
existing
we're.
Looking
at
a
10-foot
setback
from
the
the
north
property
line,
the
neighbor
to
the
east.
G
Their
setback
is
12
feet
and
the
neighbor
across
cortez
to
the
west,
their
setback
is
actually
nine
they're
still
between
the
the
proposed
frontage
of
the
of
the
accessory
structure
to
the
street
edge
is
30
feet.
G
G
There's
another
view
of
it
how
the
neighbors
property
is
actually
and
I'm
not
trying
to
throw
them
under
the
bus.
I'm
just
saying
their
consistency
along
that
that
that
street
you
know
it's
a
12
that
would
be
a
10
and
the
next
one
would
be
a
9
foot
set
back.
G
B
Okay,
well,
I'd
ask
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
petition,
but
they'd
have
to
be
hiding.
So
is
there
anyone
on
the
board,
who
has
questions
for
the
petitioner.
K
G
K
K
K
B
Any
other
questions
from
anyone
else,
seeing
none.
Well,
you
get
five
minutes
four
above
them.
B
J
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
practical
difficulties
will
not
interfere
with
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
others
and
is
in
very
is
in
harmony
with
the
overall
area
design
of
the
neighborhood
and
will
not
you
know,
be
out
of
place
in
this
on
this
particular
street.