►
From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting | November 9, 2021
Description
Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting 11/9/21
A
Good
evening
welcome
to
the
first
city
council
meeting
again
well
for
the
second
time
this
year
in
the
chambers,
with
a
small
audience
and
welcoming
everybody
here,
my
colleagues,
it's
much
nicer
to
be
surrounded
by
people
with
several
people
veterans
day
is
on
thursday.
So
I
have
asked
that
council
member
ed
jones
lead
us
off
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
A
A
D
A
E
A
F
A
A
C
Hearing
advertised,
as
required
by
law,
is
open
to
consider
agenda
item
8a
mixed-use
project
at
1872,
newbury,
road,
timber,
school
applicant,
daylight
thousand
oaks.
Llc
speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record,
and
five
individuals
have
presented
speaker
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
each
speaker
will
have
five
minutes.
G
One
general
plan
land
use
amendment
lu
2019-70504,
going
from
commercial
to
commercial
residential,
two
zone
change,
2020-70275,
going
from
c2
highway
and
arterial
businesses
to
specific
plan
21..
Three.
A
lot
line:
adjustment,
2020,
702
72
reconfigure;
existing
lots
into
two
legal
lots
of
record
for
specific
plan
2020-70276
to
adopt
sp
21
to
establish
development
standards
for
the
subject
site.
G
This
allows
a
new
multi-family,
residential
and
hotel
development
consisting
of
13
buildings,
two
of
which
are
existing
218
unit.
Two
two
to
three
story:
apartment
complex
with
a
120
room,
three-story
hotel,
an
adaptive,
reuse
of
historic
timber,
school
buildings,
six
oak
tree
permit
2020-70278,
removal
of
six
live
sorry,
six
coast
live
oaks
and
preservation
of
two
coast
live
oak
trees,
also
a
landmark
permit,
ltp
2021
702.89
to
allow
the
encroachment
of
four
california
sycamores
and
those
are
located
off-site
and
removal
of
three
california
walnut
trees.
G
So
a
little
bit
of
background,
the
physical
site
itself
is
composed
of
9.67
acre
parcel
it's
located
at
1872
newberry
road,
which
is
the
southeast
corner
of
newberry
and
kelly
roads.
It
currently
has
the
historic
timber
school
and
auditorium
buildings
and
remnants
of
a
maintenance
yard.
Generally,
the
topography
is
relatively
flat.
It's
kind
of
level
with
newbury
road,
slants,
supple
or
slopes
up
a
little
bit
the
site
transitions
upward
to
the
south
and
that's
approximately
16
feet.
It
does
vary
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
G
G
In
2019
october,
8th
residential
capacity
allocation
was
granted
and
a
general
plan.
Amendment
was
initiated
by
this
council
allocation
that
included
allocation
of
218
units
for
the
residential
portion
of
the
project
and
endorsed
a
mixed-use
concept
in
2020
january
23,
a
pre-application
meeting
was
conducted
by
the
applicant
and
in
2020
may
28th
applicant
began
submitting
formal,
submittals
or
formal
applications.
G
This
is
just
going
to
talk
a
little
about
the
rda
funds.
It
was
from
the
redevelopment
agency
and
the
funds
are
public
monies
collected
from
local
businesses.
They
do
need
to
be
used
for
public
improvements
or
improvements
that
benefit
that
are
a
benefit
to
the
public.
The
developer
is
required
to
go
through
a
city
of
the
city's
three
bidding
prevailing
wage
bidding
process
per
the
development
agreement.
G
There
is
three
million
dollars
that
would
go
towards
relocation,
upsizing
and
improvements
to
the
city's
city.
Storm
drain,
widening
sidewalks
on
kelly
road
can
be
from
six
to
eight
eight
foot
width,
new
street
trees
on
newbury
road
within
the
city,
right
of
way,
new
street
lights
on
newbury,
road
and
street
lights.
At
the
new
entrance
on
kelly
kelly
road
and
new
enhanced
crosswalks
at
newberry
and
kelly
intersection
talk
a
little
bit
about
the.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
about
the
planning
commission
review
that
occurred
a
week
ago,
a
few
weeks
ago.
G
The
planning,
sorry,
the
the
project
process
was
as
follows.
There
was
a
pre-screen
that
was
procedure
that
the
project
went
through.
City
council
approved
the
concept
there
was
a
was
followed
by
a
pre-application
review,
plus
a
formal
application.
All
these
requisite
steps
being
satisfied.
The
planning
commission
has
made
a
recommendation
to
to
approve
to
the
city
council
a
little
bit
about
the
surrounding
uses.
As
you
can
see
in
the
diagram
that
I've
displayed,
there
are
residential
units
to
the
north
of
101,
also
to
the
south
of
the
site.
G
G
G
G
This
is
what
the
kelly
road
plaza
will.
Look
like.
You
see
here
kind
of
picture,
there's
a
phantom
image
of
two
oak
trees.
Those
are
the
two
oak
trees
that
are
going
to
be
preserved
in
place
and
also
kind
of
have
a
playground
built
around
them
little
bit
about
the
actual
buildings
themselves
and
the
amount
of
units
we
are.
We
did
mention
218
residential
units.
G
They
actually
are
larger
than
what
we'd
ordinarily
see
for
sidewalks.
They
do
offer
additional
gathering
opportunities
and
one
can
think
of
them,
as
mini
courtyards
that
actually
connect
the
buildings
they
offer
better.
Walkability,
walkability
and
circulation
and
staff
believes
they'll
help
to
contribute
to
a
better
overall
social
health
of
the
of
the
project
itself,
because
it
will
allow
more
community
and
here's
just
another
simulated
view
of
what
the
paseo
may
look
like
in
between
the
buildings.
As
you
can
see,
there's
there's.
H
G
Also,
just
kind
of
keep
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
the
open
space,
the
paseos,
along
with
the
other,
open
space
amenities
such
as
the
the
pool
area,
the
plazas
that
I
mentioned
before.
Those
are
quasi
public.
So
they
not
only
serve
the
public
but
also
the
residents
as
well,
and
they
are
included
in
the
common
open
space
and
with
this
particular
project.
G
G
G
This
rooftop
deck
is
sort
of
quasi-private,
in
that
it
is
private
to
maybe
a
couple
units
that
can
have
access
to
the
roof,
but
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
common
open
space
where
somebody
from
a
different
building
across
campus
would
want
to
walk
over
and
use
it.
But
it's
just
a
small,
more
intimate
space
again
that
that's
that's,
perhaps
up
on
a
roof
or
close
to
a
couple
units,
and
now
we'll
talk
a
little
about
the
hotel.
G
As
I
mentioned,
it's
a
110
to
120
room
hotel
and
it's
going
to
be
facing,
or
it's
going
to
be
situated
on
newbury
road.
This
image
here
does
show
its
relationship
to
timber
school,
which
is
shown
in
the
corner
there,
and
the
arrow
does
kind
of
show
where
timber
school
is
is
going
to
be
or
is
situated.
G
So,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
bit
of
a
space
between
the
two.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
parking
area
there
and
that's
going
to
allow
a
little
bit
of
separation
so
that
the
new
hotel
doesn't
dominate
the
old
historic
structure
and,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
going
to
be
about
three
three
stories
and
35
feet
tall.
G
The
architecture
is
a
mission
revival
style.
It
includes
similar
roof
styles
veneers
that
are
kind
of
match,
more
or
less
what
the
timber
schools
is
going
to
be.
It's
going
to
look
like
once
they
once
they
renovate
that
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
timber
school,
so
rehabilitation
and
adaptive
reuse
of
the
two
existing
on-site
historic
buildings.
What
that
means
is
that
they're
going
to
be
again
refurbished
and
well
improved
in
such
a
way
that
they
can
be
reoccupied.
G
The
the
the
uses
that
are
now
envisioned
are
going
to
be
low-impact
uses
things
like
an
office
nature,
or
there
was
talk
of
a
museum
or
some
kind
of
an
exhibit,
perhaps
but
but
low
intensity
type
of
uses.
Business
uses
commercial
uses
that
wouldn't
require
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
to
the
to
the
building
infrastructure
itself.
G
G
G
It
should
be
noted
that
the
style
and
the
treatment,
architectural
treatment
and
quality
is
going
to
be
carried
throughout
the
entire
project,
so
that
the
interior
of
the
buildings
will
also
have
that
visual
interest
and
visual
architectural
quality,
not
just
the
buildings
that
you'd
see
from
the
public.
This
is
just
important,
I
think,
speaks
to
the
quality
of
the
the
project
itself.
G
A
little
word
about
the
parking.
There
are
three
subterranean.
What
I
call
daylight
garage
structures.
They
have
a
portion
of
them
that
do
come
up
above
the
ground
three
or
four
feet,
and
they
will
actually
house
277
stalls
they
do
allow
because
they
are
subterranean.
They
do
allow
more
amenities
on
the
surface.
The
paseos
is
an
example
as
well.
G
G
Each
also
should
be
noted
that
each
use
and
or
development
is
exclusively
parked,
that
is,
the
parking
that's
being
provided
for.
The
residential
is
located
exclusively
on
the
parcel
for
the
residential
portion
and
the
parking
that's
being
provided
for
the
hotel
is
being
lo
is
exclusively
located
on
that
hotel
parcel.
G
So
just
a
quick
graphic
here
about
the
parking
you
can
see
the
table.
I
won't
necessarily
go
through
it.
You
can
look
at
it
for
yourself
just
to
reiterate
some
of
the
points
here.
It
is
19
additional
parking
spaces
over
the
the
standards
for
thousand
oaks
municipal
code,
the
apartment
buildings.
I
could
break
it
to
a
little
breakdown
apartment
buildings
themselves
are
in
excess
of
12
or
12
extra
extra
units,
the
hotel
and
associated
uses-
are
parked
at
two
extra
units.
G
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
height
the
commercial
commercial
parcel
which
is
going
to
have
the
hotel
is
going
to
have
a
35
foot
maximum
height,
the
multi-family
residential
apartments
are
going
to
have
a
45
maximum
45
foot
maximum
height.
That
height,
though,
is
specifically
reserved
for
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
furthest
from
the
street
and
not
abutting
any
of
the
residential
properties
to
the
south,
so
these
are
going
to
be
more
interior.
G
So
the
perspective
as
seen
from
the
public
right-of-way
will
help
to
sort
of
lower
the
impact
of
the
height
of
those
buildings.
Since
they
are
going
to
be
central
to
the
to
the
parcel
structures
on
newbury
and
east
kelley,
roads
will
have
an
average
maximum
height
of
35
feet
and
the
number
of
stories
for
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
located
within
70
feet
of
the
property
line,
that's
closest
to
the
or
the
property
line
that
divides
the
commercial,
commercial
property
and
the
residences
to
the
south.
G
G
This
cross
section
demonstrates
what
I'm,
what
I'm
talking
about
it's
a
little
bit
busy
here.
So
I'll
kind
of
just
just
walk
you
through
it
there's
actually
two
cross
sections
here
and
they
start
from
newbury
road.
They
cut
all
the
way
down
through
to
the
southern
properties
of
the
residential
properties
off
of
galway
to
the
south.
G
So
if
we
take
a
look
at
the
cross
section,
a
and
cross
section
b,
cross
section
b,
for
instance,
will
cut
through
building
e
cross
section
a
will
cut
through
the
hotel
and
through
building
n,
which
is
the
the
building
furthest
furthest,
I
should
say,
closest
to
the
southern
southern
residential
properties
to
the
south.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
above,
the
above
cross
sections
here,
that's
what
that's
showing
there's
a
easier
example
to
look
at.
G
That's
this
one
right
here,
as
I
mentioned
building
end,
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
buildings
that
was
actually
closer
to
the
residences
to
the
south
that
we
see
here
and,
as
you
notice,
there's
a
dimension
line
here
that
shows
building
in
at
66
and
66
feet
and
six
inches,
because
of
that
distance.
That
building
mass
nearest
to
the
property
line
is
now
regulated
to
two
stories.
G
The
building
mass
of
the
rest
of
the
building,
that's
beyond
that
can,
of
course,
go
up
to
three
stories
and
the
other
example
here
below
in
large
and
large
partials
section
of
bb.
We
see
building
j
now,
building
j
is
actually
86
feet
and
beyond,
above
or
beyond
the
property
line,
and
so
that's
allowed
to
go
to
three
stories.
G
One
thing
also
that's
noteworthy
is
the
elevation
differences
between
the
daylight
site
and
the
residences
to
the
south.
There
is
an
average
it
does.
It
does
change
a
bit,
but
it
like,
I
said
it
averages
from
like
eight
feet
to
potentially
13
feet.
So,
having
said
that,
given
given
where
the
again
where
the
properties
are
located
and
the
future
planning
of
the
the
vegetation
that's
going
to
be
alongside
the
southern
border,
a
line
of
sight
should
really
that
should
help
mitigate
the
line
of
sight
and
seeing
the
buildings.
G
G
As
I
mentioned,
on
the
kelly
road
plaza
and
in
addition
for
landmarks,
we
have
three
protected
walnut
trees
that
were
going
to
be
removed
and
six
toyon
trees
that
are
going
to
be
preserved,
and
that's
that's
I'll,
show
you
that
and
incorporate
how
it's
incorporated
in
the
landscape
plan
to
follow.
One
thing
we
should
note,
though-
and
you
may
see
this
in
one
of
the
attachments-
is
that
the
originally
the
the
three
protected
walnut
trees
were
thought
to
be
california,
walnut
trees,
city,
arborist
or
actually
sorry.
G
The
consulting
arborist
did
confirm
that
the
report
was
was
accurate
in
calling
that,
however,
the
arborist,
the
author
of
the
report
themselves,
went
ahead
and
issued
a
correction
in
that
they
were
english
walnuts,
in
which
case
it
would
not
have
been
protected.
However,
the
applicant
did
elect
to
mitigate
for
those
trees,
regardless
of
whether
they
were
protected
or
not
so
became
a
moot
point.
G
And
here,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
landscape
plan.
That's
being
proposed,
those
trees
that
are
highlighted
in
yellow
are
going
to
be
the
mitigation
trees.
So
there's
going
to
be
quite
a
few
trees
that
are
going
to
be
planted
in
place
of
removing
the
the
nine
trees
that
I
mentioned,
and,
of
course
you
can
see
the
in
pink.
We
have
the
preserved
trees
as
well,
the
six
toyons
in
the
southern
eastern
corner
and
the
two
oaks
in
the
kelly
plaza.
G
Also,
as
I
mentioned,
there
was
going
to
be
some
shrubbery
that
was
going
to
be
planted
along
the
southern
border
and
that
shrubbery
upon
maturity
should
be
at
least
25
feet
tall
again
helping
to
mitigate
the
the
viewpoints
from
the
residences
to
the
south
and
all
the
the
land.
The
landscaping
is
about
18
000
square
feet
which
again
exceeds
the
thousand
oaks
municipal
code
of
10
coverage
by
350
percent.
Another
way
to
put
that
is
it's
it's
basically,
three
and
a
half
times
that.
G
So
at
this
point,
staff
would
recommend
that
city
council
adopt
planning
commission's
recommendation
and
that
they
accept
mnd
2020-70279
and
approve
the
project
based
on
the
staff
report,
findings
and
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
and
the
attached
ordinances
and
resolutions
attachments.
Number
four
number
five.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
nizar
slim.
I
apologize
for
mispronouncing
your
first
name
since
we
don't
have
the
mechanism
yet
in
place
for
council
members
to
push
the
button.
If
they
want
to
speak,
would
it
be
okay
with
my
colleagues
if
I
started
out
on
the
far
right
with
mr
jones
and
work
my
way
down
to
the
to
the
left?
Is
that
acceptable?
Okay,
mr
jones.
E
H
A
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
follow
up
on
the
question
that
was
asked
by
council
member
mayor
pro
tem
bob
engler.
It
is
about
the
solar
panels.
I
recall
in
watching
the
planning
commission
meeting
that
it
was
testified
or
stated
by
staff
that
this
project
will
have
solar
panels,
and
so,
if
you
could,
please
clarify
or
restate
that
that
that
will
become
indeed
the
case.
Certainly.
G
And
so
as
it
was
mentioned
earlier
here,
it
is
a
function
more
of
the
building
code,
then
of
planning,
and
it
has
also
been
stated-
you
know
by
the
applicant
that
these
buildings
are
going
to
be
solar
panel
ready.
So
the
roofs
are
designed
to
take
on
solar
paneling.
But
if
you
want
a
more
specific
response
to
that,
I
would
actually
refer
to
our
building
building
official
dragon's
fees
available.
You
can
go
ahead
and
comment
on
on
the
code,
language
itself
and
what's
actually
required
of
these,
of
new
construction
of
this
size.
H
A
K
K
To
briefly
recap
the
benefits
of
this
project.
There
are
three:
the
restoration
of
the
historic
timber
school
buildings,
they're
going
to
be
renovated
back
to
their
historic,
splendor
and
used
by
our
community
the
development
of
the
apartment
project.
That's
medium
density
contains
26,
affordable
units,
you've
seen
the
design
by
our
architect
after
consulting
with
city
staff,
and
it's
a
very
beautiful
project
and
the
property
owner
did
not
ask
for
a
density
bonus.
K
K
Last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
thank
the
city
staff,
especially
mr
slim
and
assistant
city
attorney,
patrick
hayer.
They
put
a
lot
of
long
hours
and
dedication
into
this
project.
The
discussions
weren't
always
pleasant,
but
in
the
end
we
got
to
where
we
needed
to
be,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
become
a
site
that
everyone
in
the
city
can
become
proud
of.
K
I
Thank
you,
mayor
hi,
mr
gallery.
I'm
taking
this
math,
I
think
we
can
take
it
off
when
we
speak
okay
and
you
can
too
actually
very
good
a
little
clearer
anyway
good
evening,
thanks
for
being
here,
I
like
the
breakdown
of
the
unit
sizes
on
the
apartments.
You
know,
you've
got
micro
studio,
one
bedroom,
two
bedroom-
I
don't
recall
seeing
micro
before,
but
I
think
that's
probably
good,
because
I
would
assume
that
the
pricing
will
be
reflected
on
that
micro
studio
due
to
due
to
the
size.
F
I
E
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
gallagher,
and
then
the
daylight
crew.
This
is,
it
seems
to
be
a
good
project,
that's
coming
forward.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you've
taken
into
account
some
of
the
information
and
some
of
the
comments
that
we
gave
you
last
time
and
also
in
meeting
with
the
neighbors.
E
I
could
see
how
you've
stepped
the
buildings
back
a
little
bit
two-story
rather
than
three
toward
the
neighborhood,
that's
responsive
to
some
of
the
things
I
heard
our
the
neighbors
there
saying,
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
those
steps
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
project.
I
think
the
last
time
we
we
saw
you
here
in
chambers,
I
think
we
were
in
chambers.
E
E
K
Sure
I
can
give
you
an
overall
view
of
how
we
did
it
and
then,
if
there
are
specific
questions,
mr
sellers
could
speak
to
those
more
specifically.
But
what
we
were
trying
to
do
was
seek
the
flexibility,
financial
flexibility,
that
the
market
conditions
would
allow
us
to
separate
those
projects.
Build
them
both
in
a
timely
manner.
Make
no
mistake:
they
want
both
those
projects
built
just
as
soon
as
possible,
but
with
the
recovery
from
kovid.
K
The
hotel
market
is
softer
now
than
it
was
just
a
few
years
ago,
and
what
the
owners
asked
for
was
a
little
flexibility
in
the
timing
of
the
project
so
that
they
weren't
put
in
in
a
disadvantageous
position
when
it
came
time
to
negotiate
with
someone
to
build
the
hotel.
In
other
words,
they
didn't
want
the
buyer,
the
hotel
builder,
to
have
a
gun
to
their
head
saying.
We
know
you
need
to
sell
this
in
the
next
six
months
or
what
have
you
city
gave
a
little.
F
Yes,
there's:
basically,
we
need
to
go
with
apartments
in
two
years
the
hotel
were
given
a
longer
period
of
time,
but
I've
been
doing
this
a
long
time
and
one
thing
I've
observed
over
the
years
when
you
have
raw
vacant
land
with
no
entitlements.
You
don't
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
hotel
operators
after
tonight.
F
I
don't
know
whether
I
got
a
hotel
or
not,
and
I
won't
know
for
two
years
so
call
me
when
you
get
your
entitlements
and
that's
where
we
are
right
now
and
we
want
to
get
that
hotel
done
as
quickly
as
possible
because
that's
financially
beneficial
to
the
owner
and
what
we
have
is
a
three
three
million
dollar
or
two
million
dollar
a
penalty.
If
we
don't
get
the
hotel
started
in
five
years,
so
that's
our
adversary
response
to
not
getting
the
hotel
built
and
again
we
want.
E
L
E
The
other,
the
other
I
mentioned
it
in
the
question
to
staff
about
the
solar
requirements
and
and
the
ev
charging,
and
that
sort
of
thing
for
vehicles.
I
know
that
this
building's
lifespan
is
going
to
be
easily
into
the
I
think
it
was
2035
is
when
all
vehicles
in
california
are
supposed
to
be
the
new
vehicle
supposed
to
be
eevee.
K
Right
so,
as
you
heard
from
mr
slim,
the
rooftops
will
be
prepared
for
the
solar
panels.
The
ev
charging
stations
will
be
at
construction
permitting
time
we'll
be
building
whatever
the
city
code
is
at
that
time.
But
I
got
to
say
this
is
a
developer.
Who
has
exceeded
the
parking
requirements
exceeded
the
landscape
requirements
exceeded
the
open
space
requirements.
I
think
it's
a
safe
bet
that
they
will
exceed
whatever
energy
requirements
clean
energy
requirements.
The
city
has.
A
But
it
is
a
state
for
environment,
so
it
is
a
state
requirement.
So,
regardless
of
what
the
city
code
is,
it
can
be
stricter,
but
it
will
have
to
be
installed
and
I'm
seeing
that
mr
parker
is
nodding
his
head.
Yes,
okay,
very
good!
Thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
to
go
to
the
speakers
now
that
are
who
are
waiting.
A
M
M
M
I've
been
here
for
a
little
over
30
years
now
and
I
definitely
am
interested
in
seeing
more
affordable
housing
developed
in
thousand
oaks
and
elsewhere
in
ventura
county,
because
you
know
I
just
turned
38
and
I'm
still
living
at
home
with
my
parents,
because
I
don't
really
see
another
option.
That's
realistic
for
me
right
now
so
yeah.
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
project
that
will
bring
a
lot
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
I
think
it
sets
a
good
aesthetic
standard
as
far
as
the
quality
of
the
architecture.
M
And
it
will
provide,
you
know
the
the
218
units,
26
of
which
will
be
affordable
within
the
affordability
categories
provided
by
the
state
and
as
council
member
adam
noted
earlier,
it
will
also
provide
some
inherent
affordability
in
those
smaller
studio
and
micro
units.
So
that's
a
good
thing
that
I
hope
we
see
more
of
throughout
thousand
oaks,
because
not
everyone
needs
a
huge
living
space.
Sometimes
it's
more
important
to
have.
M
M
You
know
a
very
good
example
going
forward
of
what
can
be
done
in
ventura
county
and
in
thousand
oaks
in
particular,
I
would
prefer
if
there
was
additional
units
and
additional
affordable
units,
but
you
know
I
think,
as
far
as
quality
of
projects
that
we
have
seen
in
thousand
oaks.
This
is
one
of
the
top
ones
so
far
and
yeah.
I
definitely
agree
with
the
idea
of
incorporating
solar
and
incorporating
other
sort
of
social
and
environmentally
conscious
elements
to
this
project.
M
C
Good
evening
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
and
city
council,
my
name
is
roseanna
guerra
and
I
have
been
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks
since
1993.
since
that
time,
thousand
oaks
has
made
many
significant
changes.
The
demographics
of
our
city,
county
and
nation
has
shifted
as
well
with
an
increase
in
the
older
adult
population.
C
With
this
growing
shift
and
in
light
of
the
recent
census
data,
it
is
important
for
the
city
to
look
at
any
new
development.
With
this
shift
in
mind,
housing
must
be
viewed
through
the
lens
of
how
it
serves
the
older
adult
population
and
the
disabled.
I
am
hoping
that
questions
to
any
new
development
developer
answer.
How
does
it
meet
the
needs
of
our
older
adult
population
and
the
disabled?
C
A
C
C
C
To
present
this
recommendation-
and
this
would
be
a
great
thing
to
benefit
our
area-
we
know
that
there
will
be
challenges.
There's
no
question
about
that,
but
I
hope
you
will
agree
with
me
that
this
may
be
the
highest
and
best
use
of
the
land
and
our
most
historic
public
building.
So
I
hope
that
you
will
vote
in
favor
of
this
this
plan
and
I'm
sure
that
we
can
all
work
together
to
get
through
some
of
the
challenges
that
may
be
ahead
of
us.
Thank
you
and
have
a
great
night.
A
O
I
can
really
appreciate
the
mix
of
housing,
that's
being
provided
with
this
project.
They've
got
over
200
units,
which
are
a
variety
of
from
micro
to
two
bedroom
units
which
will
serve
a
variety
of
occupants
and
also
in
support
of
some
of
the
measures
that
the
developer
has
used
some
required.
You
know
by
state
codes
as
an
architect
here
in
the
community.
A
P
A
P
A
P
My
name
is
mitchell
schwartz
and
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
directly
south
of
the
proposed
project
at
the
corner
of
newbury
road
and
kelly
road.
As
a
28-year
resident
of
thousand
oaks
and
newbury
park,
I've
seen
many
changes.
I've
watched
as
the
small
town
feeling
of
living
in
thousand
oaks
has
begun
to
erode
and
hope
that
the
city
council
uses
its
powers
to
do
the
right
thing
and
not
let
that
happen.
P
P
It
used
to
be
that
people
could
afford
a
one
bedroom
apartment
on
their
one
salary.
That's
not
the
case
anymore.
Now
the
vast
majority
of
renters
need
at
least
two
salaries
to
afford
their
apartments.
What
does
that
mean?
It
means
that
there'll
be
a
minimum
of
two
full-time
working
adults
in
every
apartment,
with
each
person
needing
a
car
to
get
to
and
from
work.
This
means
there'll
be
a
minimum
of
436
cars.
P
Just
from
the
residence
of
the
apartments
add
to
that
the
cars
from
the
unnecessary
hotel,
and
now
you
have
a
minimum
of
500
new
cars
on
that
corner.
I
call
the
hotel
unnecessary,
because
there
are
six
hotels
in
walking
distance
of
this
location
that
are
rarely
fully
completely
full.
Maybe
a
new
hotel
would
be
appropriate
if
we're
planning
on
reopening
jungle,
land
or
something
500
new
cars
on
that
corner,
500
new
cars,
I'm
going
to
say
that
one
more
time
500
new
cars
picture
that,
in
your
mind,
500
cars.
P
And
you
know,
maybe
some
of
these
people
might
actually
have
some
guests
and
where
are
they
going
to
park?
Are
they
going
to
park
in
our
part
of
the
neighborhood?
Are
we
not
going
to
be
able
to
park
in
front
of
our
own
homes
anymore,
due
to
this
large
influx
of
new
vehicles
for
everyone
in
the
neighborhood
south
of
this
project,
newbury
road
and
kelly
road,
which
is
one
lane
in
each
direction,
is
our
way
in
and
out
of
our
homes.
P
This
will
destroy
our
neighborhood.
This
project
is
too
big
for
this
residential
neighborhood.
This
project
is
too
big
for
this
residential
neighborhood
with
california
finally
beginning
to
recover
from
the
covet
19
pandemic.
Does
it
really
make
sense
to
approve
a
new
densely
populated
community
with
over
500
new
residents
in
a
relatively
small
area,
when
it
was
the
densely
populated
areas
that
were
hardest
hit
by
the
pandemic?
P
P
I've
spoken
with
many
of
my
neighbors
and
they
all
agree
that
this
project
will
really
destroy
our
quiet.
Neighborhood.
You
are
the
city
council.
Are
you
planning
on
destroying
our
neighborhood?
If
you
approve
this
project
in
its
current
forum,
that's
exactly
what
you'll
be
doing.
I
implore
you
to
deny
this
project
in
its
entirety.
P
P
D
Good
evening,
william
maple
resident
newberry
park,
things
are
so
much
more
complicated.
Now
I've
sat
in
on
some
of
the
meetings
on
this
topic
and
it
reminds
me
of
the
iclear
homes
over
there
that
were
built
back
in
the
50s
and
the
attempt
was
to
build
something
low
income.
You
know
small,
no
frills,
but
aesthetically
pleasing
something
that
people
would
actually
enjoy.
D
Those
are
going
for
about
three
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
now
and
if
you
added
everything
that's
being
mandated
from
the
state
from
solar
charging
batteries
stations,
universal
design
density,
I
don't
know
how
much
those
would
be.
I
have
three
children
mid-thirties
and
they
can't
afford
to
live
here.
So
I
understand
the
the
fight.
The
the
design
challenge
to
produce
something
that's
affordable
meets
all
the
mandates
in
the
community
wants,
and
you
are
our
cultural
heritage
board.
D
Tonight.
You
have
a
vote
before
you
to
preserve
the
oldest
public
building,
still
standing
in
the
canao.
For
more
than
a
century,
timber
site
served
our
community,
including
the
founders
such
as
the
hayes
orchards
and
jan's
family.
As
far
as
I
know,
it
is
the
only
two-room
schoolhouse
of
its
kind
still
remaining
in
california.
D
It
was
designed
by
the
first
licensed
architect
in
the
in
ventura
county
roy
roycee
wilson.
He
also
by
the
way
designed
some
of
the
jungle
land
buildings
thousand
oaks
landmark
number
13.
Where
we
meet
tonight
landmark
number
six
was
the
dos
vientos
barnes.
Both
of
these
are
lost
to
us
long
lost
and
neither
are
good
examples
of
meeting
sequo
preservation
standards.
D
I
attended
the
early
meetings
provided
by
daylight
representatives.
One
was
hosted
by
the
canada
valley,
historical
society
and
they
were
very
open
to
the
public.
Unfortunately,
the
public
doesn't
attend
they.
They
don't
get
out
and
make
their
voices
known
early,
not
at
the
last
moment
when
it
counts.
D
The
representatives
at
daylight,
listen
patiently,
as
you
are
tonight,
to
resident
concerns
city
planners
were
present
and
I
believe
they
contributed
to
the
discussion
very
constructively.
I
feel
the
planning
department
worked
diligently
to
shape
this
project
for
the
better.
This
project
will
not
only
preserve
both
landmarks
but,
more
importantly,
restore
them
for
future
generations.
D
In
less
than
three
years,
timber
will
celebrate
a
century
100
year
old
anniversary
for
this
building,
not
the
wood
building,
the
the
site
itself
thousand
oaks
will
only
be
60.
after
two
miserable
years
of
covid.
I
hope
the
entire
community
will
be
able
to
celebrate
in
an
open
and
restored
timber
school
and
just
as
a
lastly,
it
was
mcfaris,
diligent
effort
and
paying
attention
on
the
planning
commission
that
preserved
this
building
as
it
is
to
today.
Thank
you.
A
O
O
We
represent
over
800
businesses
in
the
cities
of
thousand
oaks,
westlake,
village
and
agora
hills
and,
on
behalf
of
the
members
of
our
chamber,
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
the
timber
school
project.
Under
your
consideration
this
evening,
this
project
will
provide
critical
workforce
housing
for
young
professionals.
We
need
in
our
labor
force.
This
is
one
of
the
few
opportunity
sites
left
within
the
city
to
build
such
housing.
O
C
C
Good
evening,
mayor
de
la
pena
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
danielle
borgia.
I
am
a
lifetime
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
Also,
the
president,
ceo
of
the
greater
kaneho
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
I'm
speaking
tonight
on
behalf
of
our
board
of
directors
in
support
of
the
daylight
project
before
you
this
evening.
This
is
a
beautiful
project.
C
Our
biotech
sector
continues
to
grow
now,
accounting
for
15
percent
of
the
city's
jobs,
which
further
elevates
the
critical
importance
of
convenient
housing
options
for
these
professionals,
while
providing
affordable
housing
for
our
community.
The
location
will
place
more
residents
within
walking
distance
of
local
restaurants
and
businesses,
provide
infrastructure
improvements
and
preserve
the
timber
school
buildings.
I
recently
learned
from
my
91
year
old
grandfather,
who
moved
here
in
the
1960s
that
my
father
actually
went
to
timber
school.
C
L
But
speaking
as
a
private
citizen
hi,
my
name
is
chuck
leck
kind
of
excited
an
in-person
council
meeting
and
you're,
allowing
me
to
speak
without
a
mask.
Thank
you.
I
speak
in
favor
of
this
project.
This
is
in
a
different,
difficult
area.
It's
it's
right!
Next
to
our
main
freeway,
going
through
town
next
to
a
shopping
area.
L
L
I
believe
this
will
be
one
of
the
most
sought
after
areas
in
the
city
by
the
young
people
working
here
and
wishing
to
come
move
here.
In
addition,
it
will
also
provide
an
alternative
to
those
current
residents
who
may
not
be
able
to
keep
their
current
large
homes
and
are
looking
for
something
smaller
without
having
to
move
out
of
our
nice
community.
L
L
We
talked
about
the
the
possibility
of
the
hotel,
the
hotel's
only
going
to
be
built
if
it
makes
sense
to
somebody
to
build
it
and
to
operate
it.
The
layout
also
provides
very
reasonable
spacing
for
all
these
units
and
very
easy
to
get
to
parking,
protecting
and
utilizing.
The
two
remaining
units
of
our
locally
historic
timber
school
appears
to
be
quite
well
handled
by
this
project.
L
Traffic
is
always
a
concern,
but
it
will
be
mitigated
through
the
agreement
between
the
developer
and
the
city,
each
bearing
part
of
the
costs
traffic
flow,
I
think,
will
most
likely
be
improved
once
these
improvements
are
made.
All
in
all
the
project
appears
to
be
needed
well
designed
both
internally
and
for
the
surrounding
area
and
should
dramatically
improve
the
area
in
which
it's
going
to
be
built.
It
is
exactly
the
right
type
of
project
to
improve
that
area.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
your
attention.
A
G
H
H
Hotel
in
this
particular
location
would
be
in
support
of
our
economic
development
goals,
as
well
as
our
economic
base,
our
employers
in
our
burgeoning
biotech
sector
along
those
lines.
We
also,
additionally,
have
a
need
to
provide
housing
to
provide
our
fair
share
consistent
with
our
arena
numbers
in
regards
to
bus
and
transit
there's.
Currently,
an
existing
bus
stop
immediately
in
front
of
the
site
on
newbury
road,
so
this
project
will
be
served
by
tl
transit
and
in
regards
to
traffic
and
the
cars.
I
believe
there
was
a
number
reference
to
500.
B
B
H
H
H
A
H
A
2004.,
okay,
that's
right!
Mr
maple
was
instrumental
in
this.
We
had
formed
an
intergovernmental
relations
committee
with
the
school
district
in
order
to
come
up
with
this
recommendation
in
2004,
and
it
was
a
unanimous
recommendation.
So
so
I
I
am
really
glad
that
this
historic
building
is
being
preserved
regarding
the
traffic.
So
my
question
was
about
traffic
and
parking
and
we
had
mr
lammers
available
to
us.
I
think
he
was
on
camera
and
I
wanted
to
see
whether
he
could
answer
the
questions
that
were
asked.
N
Great
good
evening,
mayor
le
pena
de
la
pena,
members
of
the
the
city
council,
all
with
respect
to
the
number
of
cars
on
the
site
pair
the-
and
I
think
this
was
discussed
already
in
the
staff
presentation-
the
parking
requirements
of
the
combined
site,
which
is
the
community
building
the
leasing
office,
the
hotel
and
the
units.
The
residential
units
is
up
to
500
spaces,
so
one
can
expect
500
vehicles
on
the
site.
N
N
That's
a
any
type
of
housing
is
well
studied
throughout
california
and
throughout
the
u.s
and
there's
hundreds
of
studies,
so
those
raids
are
well
established
and
for
those
218
units
we
have
a
total
of
100
trips
in
the
morning
122
trips
in
the
afternoon
and
again,
those
are
combined
in
and
out
and
all
of
the
traffic
save
for
give
or
take.
10
percent
is
going
towards
the
freeway
and
north
of
the
the
freeway
and
to
the
commercial
along
kelly.
N
A
Thank
you,
then.
The
next
question
that
I
have
is
in
the
pictures
and
the
schematics
that
we
saw
in
the
slide
presentation
you
had
line
of
sight,
which
I
found
extremely
helpful,
and
I
don't
see
that
being
used
all
too
often,
at
least
not
in
council
presentations.
Line-Of-Sight
schematics.
Is
that
something
that
we
will
see
more
often
now
that
we're
looking
at
objective
standards.
H
A
J
A
J
N
N
J
So
we,
as
council
members,
have
more
data
to
ask
the
developer
for
a
more
specific
number
of
parking
spaces
available,
because
if
we
take
two
people
for
a
studio,
two
for
a
one
bedroom
and
let's
leave
two
people
for
a
two
bedroom
and
each
of
those
people
have
a
car.
I
don't
see
sufficient
parking
at
that
location
and
the
parking
will
pour
onto
the
street
and
into
the
neighborhoods
surrounding
the
community.
N
N
N
H
If
I
may
add
to
that
answer,
councilman,
if
you
don't
mind
so
typically
in
planning
parking
standards
are
standardized
and
they
use
the
ite
manual,
which
is
updated
periodically.
Typically,
every
two
to
three
years:
that's
the
basis
by
which
the
parking
standards
in
our
code
adopted
by
city
council
was
based.
H
J
O
If,
if
I'm
a
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
as
you
probably
know
in
the
instances
where
we've
had
things
like
this
crop
up,
I
remember
in
discussions
with
the
kohan
project.
For
instance,
there
were
some
discussions
around
that
and
when
you
start
unpeeling
that
onion
generally,
what
you
find
is
garages
that
are
filled
and
residents
that
are
parking
on
the
street
and
thus
a
kind
of
a
cascading
set
of
issues.
O
So,
as
you
begin
to
unpeel
that
when
we
have
neighborhood
issues,
that's
that's
usually
the
fact
that
we
start
to
go
down
and
when
you
see
that
public
parking
impact
it's
working
with
those
hoas
working
with
the
tenants,
but
in
this
case
they're
all
leases
that
are
on
each
of
these
parts,
and
perhaps
the
applicant
can
speak
to
those
leases
depending
on
the
structure
in
terms
of
number
of
people
that
can
reside,
parking
space
is
provided
and
so
on.
That's.
K
A
O
K
K
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
those
of
you
normally
know.
I
have
a
bunch
of
kids
in
this
age
range
and
one
of
them
lives
with
two
roommates
and
between
the
three
of
them
they
have
one
car
the
rest
of
the
time
they
use
uber
and
lyft
to
get
around.
So
you
know
they're
entitled
to
two
spaces.
They
only
use
one.
I
A
I
I
We
have
a
a
hospitality
element,
there's
affordability!
I
like
the
fact
that
you
have
micro
and
studio
in
there.
I
think
that's
good
and
we're
gonna
activate
three
million
dollars
in
rda
funds.
They're
just
sitting
there
dormant
at
this
point.
So
here's
a
way
to
activate
that
you've
got
the
trees
are
being
replaced
on
site.
I
like
that
too,
no
density
bonus,
all
good
stuff
and
and
tim
you
made
a
mention
of
that
dyer
shear
hand
group
about
rental,
the
rental
market
in
ventura
county.
I
But
right
now
landlords
went
through
three
times
what
the
the
income
is
to
qualify
for
an
apartment.
So
you
know
I
get
the
economics
of
it,
but
it's
really
a
question
of
supply
and
demand.
We've
got
a
huge
demand,
a
low
supply
that
means
high
rents,
and
everybody
asks
me
it's
too
expensive
to
live
in
thousand
oaks.
We
need
to
bring
the
prices
down.
The
way
to
bring
it
down
is
to
increase
more
supply
and
that's
what
this
project
will
do.
I
A
A
Would
you
do
we
need
to
include
anything
regarding
the
solar
panels
in
this
motion
or
mr
parker?
I'm
not
supposed
to
be
asking
you
questions,
so
you
can
give
me
hand,
signals
or
not,
okay,
very
good.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
that
option
and
we're
not
option
but
actual
requirement.
Councilmember
mcnamee.
J
J
My
concern
on
the
project
is:
we
have
parking
issues
that
go
on
here
and
again
we
don't
have
any
real
data
or
studies
to
verify
how
many
parking
spaces
are
needed
for
a
studio,
one
bedroom
or
two
bedroom,
and
that
will
impact
the
neighborhood
community
there.
Yes,
we've
met
what
the
state
requires,
but,
as
I
find
oftentimes
in
government
is
that
it
does
not
necessarily
meet
the
needs
of
the
community,
because
that
may
not
be
a
standard
that
can
be
applied
to
thousand
oaks.
J
J
But
it's
going
to
be
a
push-pull
we're
going
to
have
to
do
here
within
the
city
to
find
ways
in
which
we
can
help
people
live
and
enjoy
the
quality
of
life.
We've
come
to
enjoy
without
overgrowth
making.
It
look
like
the
san
fernando
valley,
which
I'm
very
much
opposed
to,
because
then
that
tank
changes
the
complexion
and
the
nature
of
our
city.
J
We're
gonna
have
more
people
coming
in
because
of
increase
in
the
biotech
hub
that
we're
creating
here,
as
well
as
other
jobs
and
industries
coming
to
live
in
our
desirable
community.
Yes,
I
believe
this
location
will
have
more
trips,
but
I
don't
think
that's
really
going
to
impact
the
community.
I
think
the
local
neighbors
are
going
to
feel
more
from
the
parking
that's
going
to
wind
up
on
the
street
and
as
we
open
up
our
economy
and
covid
abates
we're
going
to
wind
up
with
more
people.
J
Traveling
to
and
from
work
and
more
and
more
cars
are
going
to
be
necessary
to
get
to
various
places
that
they
do
have
a
job.
People
who
live
here
in
thousand
oaks,
don't
necessarily
work
in
thousand
oaks
and
an
average
lifetime.
Seven
to
eight
new
jobs
for
an
individual
means.
They've
got
to
go
to
burbank,
glendale
so
forth.
J
I
don't
know
why
you
want
to
put
a
boutique
hotel
when
there's
so
many
others
in
the
area,
but
I
leave
that
up
to
the
market
and
the
developer
to
decide
if
they
feel
they
can
put
in
a
beautiful
hotel
that
will
attract
people
and
survive.
That's
their
choice.
It's
their
risk,
that's
what
they
want
to
do
more
power
to
them.
I'm
not
as
a
government
elected
official,
going
to
sit
there
and
tell
them
how
economically
to
spend
their
money
or
how
to
to
make
a
dollar
in
this
marketplace.
B
Factors
that
the
developer
has
taken
in
mind,
I
like
saving
the
oaks
and
the
specimen
trees.
I
like
the
fact
that
he
is
not
asking
for
a
density
bonus
which
would
further
make
it
crowded
if
it
will
be
crowded
in
that
area.
I,
like
the
building
setbacks
the
fact
that
the
periphery
buildings,
as
I
get
it,
are
at
a
lower
height,
so
they
will
not
inhibit
views
of
the
surrounding
hillsides.
B
I
like
the
affordable
16
units
and
the
non-request
of
a
density
bonus
which
obviously
would
not
increase
the
crowding,
as
we've
heard
alluded
to,
and
I
like
the
quality
of
the
architecture.
It
looks
as
if
the
applicant
really
has
gone
out
of
his
way
to
have
a
very
attractive
and
very
pleasing
architecture.
B
Look
on
these
various
buildings.
I
like
the
low
profile.
I
think
we
would
be
showing
the
state
which,
whose
mandates
I
I
hardly
disagree
with-
that
we
are
making
some
progress
in
housing
if
we
need
to.
If
we
end
up
in
court,
I
hope
we
don't,
but
this
is
a
step
toward
increasing
our
housing
by
many
units.
B
E
E
E
E
E
A
Thank
you
mayor
pratam
engler,
and
I
too
will
support
this
project
for
the
following
reasons.
It
first
of
all,
it
preserves
a
historic
landmark,
absolutely
essential
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
It
is
older
than
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
and
a
lot
of
effort
went
into
determining
the
historic
landmark
of
a
status
of
timber
school
worth.
Preserving
the
architecture
complements
timber
school,
so
it
is
perfect.
A
In
my
opinion,
the
fact
that
you
are
not
asking
for
a
density
bonus
is
actually
a
good
thing
because
it
actually
does
reduce
traffic
and
parking
and
the
demands
for
additional
parking
elsewhere.
Had
you
asked
for
a
density
bonus,
the
we
would
really
be
looking
at
some
problems
regarding
parking,
but
you
have
not
done
that.
A
Also,
you
have
are
going
to
follow
or
whoever
purchases
this
you're
going
to
follow
the
state
regulations
and
will
provide
solar,
which
is
absolutely
important
in
in
the
fact
that
we
will
res.
This
is
part
of
the
new
generation
of
apartments
coming
in
2000
oaks,
thousands
of
apartments,
and
so
we
have
to
really
be
realistic
about
that
supply
and
demand
was
mentioned.
I'm
sure
these
will
be
rented
out
in
no
time,
but
I
like
to
use
new
york
as
an
example.
A
Supply
and
demand
didn't
really
work
out
in
new
york
city,
because
you
have
tiny
little
closet
apartments
that
are
costing
over
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
and
are
not
really
cheap
at
all,
probably
closer
to
three
thousand.
But
nonetheless
it
is
a
demand
and
we
do
need
to
supply
and
you
are
making
that
to
happen.
J
C
Council
member
mcnamee,
yes
mayor
pro
tem
engler,
yes
and
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
yes
and
madame
air.
That
motion
carries
5-0
and
I
do
have
an
ordinance
title
to
read
into
the
record:
it's
an
ordinance
adopting
specific
plan,
number
21,
1872,
newbury
road
and
its
associated
general
plan
amendment
in
authorizing
the
land
uses
and
development
standards.
In
said,
specific
plan,
applicant
daylight
thousand
oaks,
llc.
O
O
Next
week
we
will
have
just
two
items:
an
update
to
our
water
conservation,
ordinance,
an
amendment
to
that
to
bring
consistency
with
other
agencies.
We
also
have
an
update
from
our
investment
review
committee,
their
annual
report
and
those
will
be
our
two
items
for
next
week,
the
16th
of
november-
and
that
concludes
my
update.