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September
11
2001
will
be
a
day
forever
remembered
both
for
its
tragedy
and
for
the
unwavering
spirit
of
the
american
people.
Our
nation
was
attacked
by
terrorists
in
ways
never
seen
before.
Heroes
among
us
emerged
among
those
who
showed
true
courage
and
sacrifice
were
the
new
york
fire
and
police
departments.
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B
B
A
B
D
E
F
B
La
pena
present
thank
you.
We
go
to
our
special
presentations,
we
begin
with
the
american
radio
archives
and
what
is
that?
I'm
about
to
tell
you
in
1987
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
the
thousand
oaks
library
foundation
partnered
to
purchase
a
collection
of
memorabilia
from
the
estate
of
american
singer,
musician
actor
and
radio
host
rudy
valley.
B
Those
materials
became
the
start
of
the
american
radio
archives,
one
of
the
largest
collections
of
archival
material,
documenting
the
history
of
radio
in
the
united
states
and
since
its
creation,
the
american
radio
archives
have
been
housed
primarily
at
the
grant,
brim
hall
and
newbury
park.
Libraries
this
year,
the
foundation
donated
the
archives
to
uc
santa
barbara,
and
before
I
introduce
our
guests,
we
would
like
to
show
this
video
that
totv
produced
about
the
american
radio
archives.
E
C
To
be
a
really
significant
library,
you
need
to
have
a
specialty
area.
Radio
was
one
of
the
significant
things
that
that
occurred
in
this
greater
los
angeles
area
and
nobody
was
doing
anything
with
it.
And
yet
there
were
some
wonderful
collections
that
could
be
available,
and
so
that
was,
I
think,
the
entree
into
why
we
got
into
the
radio
old
time.
Radio,
the
golden
age
of
radio
over
the
period
of
years
with
council
assistance,
staff,
support
and
so
forth.
D
D
Over
the
years,
the
collection
has
been
added
to
by
many
sources
and
really
developed
into
this
fantastic
collection,
huge
with
thousands
and
thousands
of
items,
a
collection
of
great
national
significance.
The
american
radio
archives
is
just
an
incredible
collection.
There's
some
really.
You
know
world-class
collections.
There,
norman
corwin
rudy
valley,
pacific
pioneer
broadcasters,
there's
just
an
incredible
wealth
of
information
that
documents
the
first
decades
of
broadcasting
in
america.
H
The
scripts
alone
are
one
of
the
largest
script
collections
in
the
world,
and
the
recordings
cover
the
entire
history
of
recorded
radio
from
the
1920s
right
up
to
the
1960s
and
then
including
some
tribute
programs
right
up
to
the
current
day.
It
truly
fills
in
a
part
of
the
history
of
american
culture.
D
Ucsb
has
long
had
a
specialization
in
the
preservation
of
historical
audio
formats,
whether
that's
16-inch
transcription
discs
like
here
behind
me
or
open,
reel
tapes
or
wax
cylinders,
we've
developed
expertise
in
preserving
those
formats
over
many
years
when
the
thousand
oaks
library
foundation
contacted
uc
santa
barbara
about
the
library
taking
over
the
stewardship
and
curation
of
the
american
radio
archives.
D
We
were
obviously
thrilled
it's
one
of
the
largest
and
most
important
archives
in
the
country,
documenting
radio
history
and
to
even
be
considered
to
have
that
role
of
taking
on
the
next
generation
of
stewardship
of
the
collection
was
really
honored,
and
we're
really
glad
that
it's
going
to
come
here
and
be
accessible
to
researchers
and
students.
I
can
tell
you
that
not
only
was
I
personally
ecstatic,
but
the
board
was
just
just
delighted.
D
We
really
felt
that
we
had
fulfilled
our
purpose
of
stewarding
this
collection
effectively
and
carefully
and
moving
it
on
to
a
place
where
it
will
be
able
to
be
accessed
by
vast
numbers
of
people.
Ucsb
is
a
public
university
we're
open
not
just
to
our
students
and
faculty
but
to
the
general
public
as
well.
The
collection
will
be
moved
here
to
the
special
research
collections
department.
On
the
third
floor
of
the
ucsb
library.
We
will
be
digitizing
these
recordings,
putting
them
online.
D
So
people
can
listen,
you
know
on
their
smartphones
or
in
their
offices
or
wherever
they
happen
to
be
so.
Anybody
from
the
general
public
will
be
able
to
come
in
and
access
the
collections.
Look
at
the
historical
photographs.
Look
at
the
scrapbooks
request,
a
digitized
copy
of
a
recording,
and
that's
really.
What
distinguishes
our
program
here
is
that
wide
public
access
that
we
do
provide
to
audio
visual
materials.
B
D
Yes,
I
think
I
will
speak
first
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
I'm
wondering
if
I
need
my
video
is.
Let
me
just
maybe
that
wasn't
started
okay
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
and
council
members,
I
think
the
wonderful
video
that
we
just
saw
really
says
it
all.
But
let
me
try
to
add
a
little
bit
of
of
context.
D
As
you
well
know,
the
thousand
oaks
library
foundation
was
formed
in
1983
to
support
the
library,
its
special
collections
and
programs.
We
were
pleased
to
establish
the
american
radio
archives
to
preserve
and
document
the
history
of
this
largely
bygone
era
for
future
generations.
D
D
That
was
not
to
be.
However,
the
foundation
does
take
satisfaction
from
having
been
a
good
steward
of
the
collection
and
we're
grateful
to
the
city
for
its
continuing
support.
As
you
just
heard,
the
story
does
have
a
very
happy
ending.
We
found
the
perfect
home
for
the
collection
at
the
ucsb
library
already
home,
to
a
world-class
collection
of
entertainment,
radio
and
media.
We're
deeply
appreciative
of
our
friends
at
ucsb,
david
sawyer,
the
curator
of
the
performing
arts
collection,
the
university
library
and
kristin
antelman
and
danielle
moon
special
research
collections
without
their
dedication
and
resources.
D
This
would
not
have
been
possible
and,
most
importantly,
we're
grateful
for
the
radio
artists
themselves,
as
well
as
our
donors,
whose
contributions
preserve
the
history
of
this
most
important
medium.
We're
thankful
that
the
collection
remains
in
southern
california
and
will
eventually
be
fully
accessible
to
the
public.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
D
Madam
mayor,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
and
members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
as
well.
As
david
said,
I'm
david
soybert,
the
curator
of
the
performing
arts
collection.
So
it
is
my
responsibility
now
to
steward
this
collection
for
the
next
period
of
time.
D
We're
really
grateful
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
the
thousand
oaks
library
for
being
the
custodians
to
this
collection
and,
in
particular,
we're
grateful
for
the
thousand
oaks
library
foundation,
in
particular,
david
shane,
eloise,
cohen,
and
past
members
of
the
foundation
board
for
having
the
confidence
in
uc
santa
barbara,
to
entrust
us
with
this
collection
going
forward
and
to
keep
these
important
materials
in
southern
california.
D
I'm
not
going
to
say
a
lot
because
you've
heard
me
in
the
video,
but
I
do
want
to
introduce
some
people
from
ucsb's
team,
in
particular:
mallory,
genoa,
the
project
manager,
who's,
coordinating
the
move
and
also
kristin
antelman.
Our
university
librarian,
who
should
be
on
screen
now
and
kristen,
is
going
to
say
just
a
couple
of
words
and
oh
there's,
danelle
moon
as
well.
D
The
head
of
special
research
collections
and
I've
asked
them
to
maybe
say
a
couple
words
about
how
it
fits
in
with
ucsb's
mission
and
and
how
grateful
we
are
to
have
this
collection
as
part
of
ucsb
libraries
portfolio.
Thank
you.
J
David
and
david,
on
behalf
of
uc
santa
barbara,
I
would
like
to
express
our
gratitude
to
the
thousand
oaks
library
foundation
and
in
particular
to
david
shane
and
eloise
cohen,
for
their
interest
and
confidence
in
ucsb
library
becoming
the
permanent
home
for
the
historic
american
radio
archives
collection.
J
J
That
meeting
was
in
march
just
four
days
before
we
rapidly
had
to
shut
the
library's
doors
due
to
the
pandemic
and
even
though
covid
has
closed
our
campus.
Until
recently,
we
have
been
actively
planning
and
starting
the
move
of
the
radio
archives,
collection
and
I'd
like
to
now
turn
it
over
to
danelle
moon
director
of
special
research
collections.
To
make
brief
comments.
Thank
you
good
evening,
everybody.
J
This
is
like
such
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
this
collaboration
to
take
place,
and
I'm
I'm
delighted
that
david
has
been
so
much
a
part
of
the
infrastructure
really
at
thousand
oaks.
As
a
and
as
an
advisor-
and
we
have
already
seen
some
really
wonderful
examples
of
how
important
this
collection
or
this
multiple
collection
is,
with
researchers
coming
from
new
york
to
see
the
collection
in
our
cobia
sort
of
environment
where
we
are,
we
are
appointment
only
sort
of
process
currently
in
into
the
future.
J
You
know
projects
to
the
78
collections
that
we've
been
building,
and
so
I
hope
that
you
all
feel
confident
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
really
take
this
collection
into
the
future
and
digitizing
where
we
can
and
looking
out
for
new
grants
that
can
help
support
this
work.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
trusting
us
in
this
wonderful
collection
that
you've
been
building
for
so
long.
B
Thank
you
all
very
much.
I
really
appreciate
the
enthusiasm
for
the
collection
that
we
passed
on
to
you
great,
to
have
found
a
wonderful
home,
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
mention
the
former
library
director
heather
cousin,
who
made
this
possible
as
well
or
helped
to
make
this
possible.
So
this
is
very
exciting
and
looking
forward
to
a
continued
partnership
with
ucsb.
Thank
you
so
much
and
congratulations
to
everyone.
D
B
Very
good,
and
now
we
will
go
to
the
next
presentation,
and
it
is
one
of
my
my
favorites.
I
am
pleased
to
be
able
to
introduce
this
month's
recipient
of
our
community
commitment
award
the
month
of
august.
Her
name
is
taba
syed
and
for
the
past
12
years
ms
syed
has
been
a
committed
volunteer
at
the
islamic
center
of
conejo
valley.
She
leads
youth
discussion,
circles
and
youth-centric
lectures.
B
Baking
and
cooking
classes
during
covet
were
especially
successful,
virtually
story
time,
arts
and
crafts
and
study
sessions
she's.
Also
a
sunday
school
teacher
for
second
and
third
graders
at
the
weekly
islamic
school
taba
rose
was
raised
in
thousand
oaks
graduated
from
westlake
high
school,
where
she
actually
helped
start
a
spanish
club
and,
after
earning
her
degree
at
uc
san
diego,
she
returned
to
her
hometown
to
continue
to
volunteer
and
she
has
devoted
herself
to
giving
back
to
the
entire
community.
B
Hi,
I'm
claudia
bill
de
la
pena,
mayor
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
and
it
is
a
pleasure
to
introduce
you
to
this
month's
honoree
of
our
wonderful
community
commitment
award
and
her
name
is
taba.
Zayed.
Congratulations!
Thank
you!
So
I'm
presenting
to
you
on
behalf
of
the
city,
the
certificate
of
recognition,
along
with
the
community
commitment
award
for
the
month
of
august.
Congratulations!
B
C
I
think
I
have
to
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
the
community.
I
grew
up
in.
I
grew
up
around
so
many
people
that
were
just
always
volunteering
themselves
and
helping
out
whenever
you
can-
and
I
think,
that's
just
the
spirit
of
being
in
a
community.
Sometimes
you
give
help,
and
sometimes
you
receive
it,
so
I've
been
blessed
to
be
able
to
give
help
as
much
as
I
can
these
past
few
years.
B
C
C
Thing
I
enjoy
doing
most
is
probably
teaching
at
sunday
school,
it's
a
small
classroom,
but
it's
little
kids
and
they
just
take
in
so
much
and
it's
just
such
a
pleasure
to
be
able
to
work
with
them
every
week.
The
teaching
is
done
in
english,
but
we
teach
multiple
subjects.
So
I
teach
islamic
studies
about
the
religion.
We
teach
arabic,
so
learning
your
letters
and
how
to
read
in
arabic
and
then
also
we
teach
quran
memorization,
so
memorizing
little
chapters
of
the
holy
book.
B
C
B
And
that
is
why
you
are
the
recipient
of
this
month's
community
commitment
award
because
you
care
there
are
no
boundaries,
no
barriers,
because
we
are
all
together
again,
congratulations
on
your
awards
and
continue
the
wonderful
work
that
you
are
doing
spreading
cheer
throughout
our
community.
Appreciate
that
very
much.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
and
if
you
know
someone
that
you
would
like
to
nominate
for
our
community
commitment
award,
please
go
to
our
website.
Www.Oaks.Org.
B
And
that
was
tabasayet.
She
is
not
able
to
join
us
tonight
because
of
work,
but
on
behalf
of
the
entire
city
council,
I
would
like
to
congratulate
her
on
this
recognition
and
thank
her
for
her
commitment
to
serving
the
people
of
thousand
oaks
and
also
again,
thank
you
to
our
to
tv
crew,
for
a
wonderful
production,
and
with
that
we
will
now
go
to
public
comments.
Madam
clerk.
C
This
is
a
time
and
place
for
public
comments
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
city
council
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
C
C
Okay,
good
evening
mayor
ville
de
la
pena
city,
council,
members
and
city
staff,
my
name
is
randy
guthrie
and
I'm
the
vice
president
of
government
affairs
with
app
and
services
and
a
lifelong
ventura
county
resident
being
part
of
this
community
means
being
local
and
I'm
thrilled
to
be
working
with
you.
In
this
capacity.
C
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
address
the
mailer
that
was
sent
out
over
the
weekend
by
waste
management.
This
mailer
is
spreading
false
accusations
about
our
company
and
is
attacking
the
decision
you
made
in
march
to
award
athens
services
the
waste,
recyclable
material
and
organics
waste
collection
services
contract.
C
C
In
fact,
this
contract
was
awarded
after
a
multi-year
process
where
your
staff
and
environmental
consultant
thoroughly
vetted
all
proposals
and
ranked
athens
highest
and
overall
score
and
value
to
the
community
of
thousand
oaks
to
ensure
a
fair
and
competitive
bid
process.
You
evaluated
all
proposals
on
several
criteria,
including
qualification
experience
and
reputation,
financial
qualification,
technical
approach,
sustainability,
diversion
and
outreach,
and
customer
service
again
athens
services
ranked
highest
in
the
overall
score.
The
average
customer
stands
to
stay
29
with
athens
services
compared
to
current
waste
management
rates,
city
staff
and
city
council
did
an
exceptional
job.
C
Managing
this
bid
process
to
ensure
the
award
was
fair
and
equitable
for
both
the
city
and
its
ratepayers,
and
I
would
like
to
emphasize
this
contract
prohibits
extraordinary
rate
increases.
Athens
stands
behind
our
ability
to
provide
better
service
at
fair
and
competitive
rates.
Ultimately,
as
the
scores
reflected
rates
was
just
one
of
the
many
reasons,
athens
was
selected
as
your
next
waste
hauler.
As
a
family-owned
company
based
in
southern
california,
athens
services
will
focus
on
positively
impacting
the
community.
C
C
Today,
our
recycling
coordinators
are
in
the
community
educating
businesses
on
the
proper
way
to
reduce
reuse
and
recycle
materials
like
never
before.
We
are
grateful
for
this
new
partnership
with
the
community
of
thousand
oaks
and
look
forward
to
the
start
of
our
services.
On
january
1st
2022,
I
would
like
to
invite
you
and
any
member
of
the
community
to
visit
our
thousand
oak
sustainability
center
located
at
2251
east
thousand
oaks
boulevard
or
go
to
athens
thousand
oaks
dot
com
to
learn
more
about
our
programs
and
services.
Thank
you
and
have
a
great
evening.
B
D
Hello,
my
name
is
clint
full
and
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
I'm
a
member
of
the
canada
climate
coalition
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
bike
lanes
thanks
to
the
public
works
department
for
the
great
public
information
meetings
last
week
and
a
special
thanks
to
kathy
naum
for
fielding.
My
call
today,
I'd
like
to
start
by
paraphrasing
a
web
page
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
website.
D
D
D
D
New
bike
lanes
are
a
simple
and
much
needed
opportunity
to
enhance
our
air
quality
and
health,
while
simultaneously
lowering
the
fossil
fuel
pollution
which
drives
drought,
water
scarcity
and
wildfire
risk.
I
understand
they
aren't
part
of
the
current
plan,
but
I'd
like
to
just
briefly
advocate
for
protected
bike
lanes.
D
Bike
ridership
increases
across
the
board
when
there's
protected
bike
lanes,
cities
that
build
protected
lanes
for
cyclists,
end
up
with
safer
roads
for
people
on
bikes,
people
in
cars
and
pedestrians,
protected,
separated
bike
facilities
were
one
of
the
biggest
factors
associated
with
lower
fatalities
and
lower
injuries
for
all
road
users.
According
to
several
studies,
in
conclusion,
be
sure
to
head
over
to
www.tox.org.
D
Lanes
and
voice
your
support
for
more
bike
lanes
fill
out.
The
survey
write
an
email
and
call
in
by
tomorrow,
wednesday
august
31st.
Additionally,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
for
approving
the
local
road
safety
plan
and
its
roadway
improvement
plans
to
enhance
bicycle
access
across
the
101
freeway
thanks
everyone
for
your
time.
H
Madam
mayor
council
members,
I'm
roseanne
witt
from
thousand
oaks.
This
month,
195
countries
approved
ipcc's
sixth
assessment
on
climate
science.
The
report
echoes
daily
images
of
unprecedented
tragedy,
impacting
every
region
on
earth.
The
consequences
of
failing
to
act
on
past
warmings
co2
levels
are
at
their
highest
in
level.
In
2
million
years,
methane
levels
are
higher
than
at
any
point.
H
The
report
is
unambiguous.
We
need
immediate,
rapid
and
large-scale
action
to
cut
greenhouse
gas
pollution
in
half
this
decade.
To
avoid
exceeding
the
threshold
between
manageable
and
catastrophic
risk.
Our
region's
fact
sheet
already
observes
larger
temperature
change
than
the
global
mean
it's
virtually
certain.
It
will
continue
to
get
hotter
and
snow
cover,
thus
available.
Water
will
keep
declining
drought
and
fire
weather
will
continue
to
worsen
every
pound
of
ghg
pollution,
and
every
fraction
of
a
degree
of
extra
heating
will
accelerate
and
magnify
the
destruction
and
suffering
compound.
H
Extreme
events
in
which
unprecedented,
simultaneous
or
overlapping
hazards
of
increased
intensity
and
duration
will
occur
more
frequently,
straining
our
emergency
response
resources
as
occurred
when
the
borderline
shooting
and
woolsey
fire
struck
within
24
hours.
The
good
news
is
every
pound
of
greenhouse
gas
pollution
and
every
fraction
of
a
degree
of
heating
we
prevent
can
reduce
these
impacts.
H
But
every
day
we
delay
implementation
narrows
our
window
of
opportunity
to
stabilize
temperatures
at
a
level
to
which
we
can
realistically
adapt
ipcc
calls
for
strong,
rapid
and
sustained
reductions
in
methane
as
the
fastest
strategy
to
stall
temperature
rise.
So,
while
I
look
forward
to
our
climate
action
plan
mitigation
need
not
and
must
not
wait
for
its
completion.
H
Your
council
must
implement
measures
now
to
ensure
all
development
in
to
is
constructed
without
gas
infrastructure
that,
once
in
place,
will
pollute
our
climate
for
decades.
When
we
now
know
it
will
inevitably
result
in
unacceptable
costs.
Financial
and
social,
which
you
can
preemptively,
avoid
adopt
santa
barbara's
reach
code,
prohibiting
new
gas
connections
and
add
another
requiring
solar
panels
and
battery
storage
on
all
new
buildings:
local,
clean
energy
generation,
plus
storage,
prevent
power,
shutoffs
and
building
electrification
in
turn,
incentivizes
the
solar
and
batteries
that
maximize
grid
reliability.
H
L
L
The
recent
ipcc
or
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
report
issued
august
9
was
consistent
in
its
warnings.
The
report
was
nothing
less
than
quote
a
code
red
for
humanity.
The
alarm
bells
are
deafening
and
the
evidence
is
irrefutable
end
of
quote
created
in
1988.
The
objective
of
the
ipcc
is
to
provide
governments
at
all
levels
with
scientific
information
that
they
can
use
to
develop
climate
policies.
L
I
want
to
underscore
the
words
government
at
all
levels.
Tonight
I
am
urging
the
city
council
and
officials
to
look
through
a
climate
lens
and
ask
how
city
projects
and
policies
affect
our
climate.
For
example,
on
tonight's
agenda
there
is
an
approved
expenditure
for
asphalt,
paving
were
cool
pavements
considered
during
the
expenditure
evaluation,
hot
pavements
or
asphalt,
which
comprise
about
one
third
of
urban
services,
aggravate
heat
islands
by
warming,
the
local
air
and
contribute
to
global
warming
by
radiating
heat
into
the
atmosphere.
L
L
M
Erin,
council,
I'm
gary
wartick,
I'm
a
30,
a
lot
of
echoing
a
34-year
resident
of
ventura
county
and
I
live
in
camarillo
and
I'm
here
this
evening
to
talk
about
item
10c
on
the
agenda.
As
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
new
west
symphony,
I
served
as
a
I've
served
as
a
member
since
2010.
M
from
1998
to
2011.
I
served
as
this
city's
first
economic
development
manager.
During
that
period,
I
became
particularly
aware
that
the
newest
symphony
was
and
remains
one
of
the
important
amenities
that
makes
this
community
what
it
is
a
very
desirable
place
to
live,
work,
recreate
and
even
be
entertained.
M
The
taneo
valley,
though,
is
not
just
about
jobs,
good
housing
parks
and
good
schools,
we're
also
about
the
arts
for
25
years.
The
us
symphony
has
been
one
of
the
three
resident
companies
that
has
provided
the
entertainment
tiger,
canelo
valley
and,
in
fact,
all
of
ventura
county
with
music
and
public
school
level.
Education
programs,
tied
to
that
music
newest
symphony
normally
has
presented
its
mix
of
music
with
the
70,
a
70
percent
orchestra
performing
in
the
cavalier
theater
bernie.
The
pandemic
has
financially
challenged.
Almost
all
of
our
local
nonprofits
symphony
is
no
exception.
M
We've
been
been
unable
to
provide
live
performances
in
the
cavalier
for
nearly
18
months,
but
perhaps
another
four
months
or
so
yet
to
go.
During
this
period,
we've
worked
with
our
musicians
to
create
create
online
performances
that
have
been
well
received
and
helped
keep
public
interest
in
the
new
west
symphony
and
thus
helped
keep
the
doors
open.
M
The
symphony
received
federal
ptp
funds
over
the
period
without
which
we
could
not
have
paid
our
staff
and
the
orchestra
members
who
have
been
performing
online
as
well.
We've
made
a
challenging
effort
to
continue
to
pursue
fundraising
among
our
concert,
former
concert,
goers
and
others
who
recognize
the
value
of
the
symphony.
M
As
we
approach
fiscal
year
end
tonight,
august
31st,
we
find
that
we
have
funds
only
available
to
help
keep
us
symphony
operating
during
the
next
four
months,
we're
also
facing
a
1
million
fiscal
year
operating
loss.
That
symphony
cannot
afford
again,
ultimately
we're
seeking
enough
funds
to
keep
the
symphony
operating
until
live.
Performances
can
return
sometime
next
year.
M
We
understand
that
the
one
million
dollars
that's
been
recommended
by
staff
to
spread
among
teo
arts
and
other
local
worthy
non-profits
outside
the
arts
is,
is
a
is
a
significant
amount.
We
are
requesting
that
the
allocation
for
the
arts
within
that
one
million
dollars
we
set
at
a
50
50
ratio
or
500
000,
to
be
shared
among
all
of
the
arts.
M
J
Good
evening,
mayor
city,
council,
members
and
community,
my
kids
attend
banyan
elementary
and
our
family
lives
on
michael
drive
tonight,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
crossing
guards.
If
you've
ever
experienced
pick
up
or
drop
off
at
earth.
I
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
howard.
Not
only
does
howard
put
a
smile
on
every
single
child's
child
that
passes
him,
but
he
also
ensures
that
traffic
keeps
moving.
J
Last
week
we
had
a
substitute
crossing
guard
and
the
traffic
was
backed
up
all
the
way
onto
orchard
by
the
am
pm
crossing
guards
play
a
vital
role
when
it
comes
to
pick
up
and
drop
off
at
all
our
schools.
Some
schools
have
one
crossing
guard.
Some
have
two
and
others
have
three,
my
children's
school,
where
they
actually
cross
lynn
road
does
not
have
any.
At
the
moment.
J
We
are
to
rely
on
our
children
to
know
to
walk
down
to
reno,
where
there's
a
cross,
where
there's
a
light
for
them
to
cross
at
earth's
and
sequoia.
There's
no
crossing
guard
at
michael
and
orchard
which
students
from
earth
sequoia
and
newberry
park
high
school
use
to
cross.
My
family
has
often
crossed
michael
and
orchard
to
get
to
newbury
park
gateway
park
where
we
have
been
almost
hit
multiple
times
to
the
point
of
instead
of
pushing
my
stroller
across
the
crosswalk
I
pull
it
across.
J
J
Most
of
us
haven't
picked
up
or
dropped
off
at
a
school
with
this
many
cars
in
many
many
months
and
I'll,
be
totally
honest
when
I
say
that
some
of
us
may
have
forgotten
the
rules,
some
of
us
may
have
forgotten
what
it's
like
to
have:
300
families
dropping
off
at
one
location
in
a
30-minute
period.
We
have
forgot
to
give
each
other
grace
and
to
slow
down.
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
de
la
pena
for
reaching
out
to
me.
J
When
you
saw
my
post
about
the
drop
off
and
pick
up
madness,
I
hope
that
it
can
be
resolved
soon,
so
our
children
can
walk
home
from
school
safely.
For
community
members,
there
are
two
job
postings
on
the
city's
website.
If
you
can
think
of
anyone,
send
them
a
message
or
give
them
a
call.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
and
have
a
wonderful
week.
B
Thank
you,
and
just
so
you
know
your
concerns
and
comments
that
I
received
from
you
today
were
also
forwarded
to
staff,
and
we
are
looking
into
the
situation.
Thank
you
for
bringing.
A
J
Good
evening
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
council,
members
and
city
staff,
my
name
is
leanne
holland
and
I
live
in
newberry
park.
I
am
the
leader
of
thrive,
canejo
and
we
are
part
of
kaneho
unido.
Kaneho
unido
believes
that
diversity
is
a
fact.
Equity
is
a
choice.
Inclusion
is
an
action
and
belonging
is
an
outcome.
J
We
are
so
grateful
that
the
council
has
embraced
the
diversity
of
our
city
and
has
chosen
to
make
equity
and
inclusion.
A
top
goal
for
thousand
oaks
city
leaders
and
staff
have
already
taken
first
steps
toward
putting
this
goal
into
action
to
reach
the
desired
outcome
of
belonging
for
everyone
who
lives
in
thousand
oaks.
It's
important
to
understand
what
that
means
for
community
members
who
are
often
marginalized
as
the
parent
of
a
child
with
disabilities.
J
Incorporating
the
principles
of
universal
design
into
planning
processes
is
an
effective
way
for
decision
makers
to
remove
barriers
for
everyone.
A
great
example
of
universal
design
is
the
curb
cut
originally
designed
for
wheelchair
users.
The
curb
cut
is
also
helpful
for
parents
and
caregivers,
pushing
strollers
people,
riding
bikes
and
skateboards,
and
people
pulling
luggage
or
pushing
hand
carts.
The
curb
cut
makes
sidewalks
more
accessible
for
everyone.
J
J
J
B
N
Thank
you,
madam
marin.
Council
members,
my
name
is
adam
haverstock
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
canelo
valley
chamber
of
commerce.
Here
with
a
couple
updates
from
your
chamber
this
evening.
The
first
is:
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
new
event
we
are
putting
together.
It
is
a
job
fair
for
conejo
valley.
It
is
going
to
be
on
wednesday
september
22nd
from
9am
to
noon
at
the
gardens
at
los.
N
This
is
an
effort
by
the
chamber
of
commerce
to
help
address
the
current
labor
shortage
throughout
the
canal
valley,
and
you
know
the
state
in
the
nation.
It
is
a
free
event
for
job
seekers
to
attend
and
there
is
a
small
fee
for
businesses
to
reserve
a
table.
It
is
open
to
all
you
do
not
need
to
be
a
chamber
member
to
participate
and
more
information
is
on
the
calendar
on
the
chamber
website
at
kaneho
chamber,
dot
org.
N
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
nominations
are
open
for
the
chamber's
annual
awards
gala
and
that
event
has
six
categories.
We
have
our
man
and
woman
of
the
year.
We
have
volunteer
of
the
year
business
of
the
year
non-profit
of
the
year
and
a
new
category
small
business
of
the
year.
This
year,
winners
will
be
honored
at
this
year's
annual
recognition
gala
on
friday
october,
8th
at
the
hyatt
regency
westlake,
and
the
nomination
form
is
on
the
front
page
of
the
chamber
website,
kanejochamber.org
and
then.
N
Finally,
I
wanted
to
mention
a
piece
of
legislation
that
came
up
last
week
and
that
is
senate
bill.
Nine.
The
greater
canelo
valley
chamber
of
commerce
is
opposed
to
senate
bill,
9,
which
I
believe
is
heading
to
the
governor's
desk
now
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
posted
about
this
bill
on
social
media
the
other
day,
so
we
wanted
to
bring
it
up.
This
is
the
bill
that
would
prevent
cities
from
setting
their
own
rules
about
the
number
of
units
that
can
be
built
on
a
given
parcel
of
land.
N
While
the
chamber
is
vocal
about
the
need
for
workforce
housing
in
our
community,
we
also
want
to
maintain
the
character
of
our
single
family,
neighborhoods
and
senate
bill.
9
will
not
solve
the
housing
crisis,
so
we
are
opposed
to
that
bill.
Thank
you
to
the
city
for
also
weighing
in
on
this
very
important
bill.
Thank
you.
That
concludes
my
comments
this
evening.
Unless
there
are
any
questions.
B
J
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
marianne
vanzile
and
I
am
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
I'm
a
member
of
the
thousand
oaks
livability
action
network.
Congratulations
on
passing
a
new
land
use
map.
As
the
beginning
of
the
general
plan
review
process.
I
understand
as
the
next
step
in
the
general
plan
review
and
revision.
The
housing
element
will
be
presented
to
the
planning
commission.
J
We
will
move
into
a
system
of
development
by
right,
which
means
if
the
developer
proposes
a
project
that
conforms
to
our
land
use
plan
and
meets
our
objective
design
standards.
It
must
be
approved
administratively
and
will
not
come
before
a
planning,
commission
or
city
council
where
developers
have
been
encouraged
to
include
affordable
housing.
J
We
are
eager
to
see
the
objective
design
standards
and
to
assure
ourselves
that
they
are
rational
and
not
so
onerous
that
every
developer
requires
a
waiver
and
must
become
the
force
planning,
commission
or
council.
An
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
must
be
put
in
place
if
we
expect
developers
to
include
affordable
housing
in
their
proposals.
J
We
are
eager
to
see
what
the
city
will
propose
for
objective
design
standards
and
inclusionary
housing,
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
while
these
are
not
within
the
scope
of
the
general
plan
review
and
then
I'm
assuming
will
not
go
in
front
of
gpac.
I
encourage
the
city
to
make
sure
that
there
is
enough
time
and
a
process
in
place
for
meaningful
public
input.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
items
that
were
mentioned,
appreciate
representative
from
athens
services
coming
forward
and
providing
some
additional
clarity
based
on
the
mailer
that
was
sent
out
with
quite
a
bit
of
you,
know,
inaccurate
and
misleading
information.
O
O
In
regards
to
the
the
discussion
on
crossing
guards,
the
we
do
have
very
very,
very
fortunate
in
this
community
that
city
actually
provides
the
crossing
guard
services
on
behalf
of
the
school
district,
as
we
do
with
the
school
resource
officers.
Actually,
the
city
pays
for
those
positions
of
those
locations.
We
spend
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
providing
those
crossing
guards.
O
As
the
speaker
very
eloquently
mentioned,
we
we
are
in
the
midst
across
the
board,
just
like
every
other
business
out
there
in
in
desperate
need
of
staffing.
We
are
currently
staffing
fully
some
with
multiple
crossing
guards
at
22
of
our
24
locations.
Some
have
multiple
at
that
particular
location.
Due
to
snapping
shortages.
We
we
have
to
triage.
We
had
a
great
deal
of
crossing
happening
at
kalina
in
other
areas,
and
so
we
had
to
bring
some
pumps
over.
We
were
seeing
one
to
two
crossings
per
hour
at
that
that
particular
location.
O
That
said,
we
are
actively
recruiting
and
we're
actually
putting
full-time
city
staff
at
times
out
into
the
field
to
assist
in
these
areas,
so
we
will
definitely
reach
out
to
to
the
resident,
definitely
as
a
parent,
understand
and
appreciate
the
the
concern
there,
but
it
is
an
ongoing
challenge
for
those
that
may
be
interested.
Those
positions
do
pay
twenty
one
dollars
an
hour,
go
to
teox.org
jobs,
there's
an
application
up
there.
O
If
you
know
anyone,
that's
interested
in
and
being
a
part
of
that,
I
would
be
happy
to
have
them
join
our
crossing
guard
force.
Our
public
works
department
works
very
carefully
at
analyzing
these
locations
and
understanding
how
many
crossings
are
happening
and
understanding
where
we
need
to
add
guards
and
where
we
may
need
to
look
at
removing
guards
and
that's
always
a
difficult
equation.
O
But
there
is
a
value
value
component
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
adequate
safety
and
doing
doing
that
in
a
fiscally
responsible
way.
So
we
will
definitely
reach
out
to
the
resident
and
we'll
definitely
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
to
provide
a
great
safe
service
at
those
locations.
O
M
B
F
F
Madam
mayor
yeah,
this
is
not
a
crossing
or
location.
However,
it
is
a
new
crosswalk
location
that
the
city
is
in
the
middle
of
constructing
at
the
intersection
of
wendy
and
charlotte.
This
is
an
item
that
came
before
the
city
council
earlier
this
year
and
we're
actively
pursuing
the
that
project
and
are
hoping
to
complete
the
project
by
the
end
of
september
or
early
october
to
provide
another
safe
means
of
crossing
a
windy
drive
with
some
assistance
of
some
signage
and
some
lighting.
So
that's
we're
excited
about
that
project.
Thank.
B
E
B
E
Might
just
mention
I
I'm
not
familiar
with
this
letter
that
waste
management
evidently
has
sent
out.
I
don't
know
to
whom
they
sent
it
or
I
don't
know
the
content
of
it,
but
it
disturbs
me
a
lot
and
I
wonder
if
we
have
by
way
of
the
council
meeting
tonight,
we
have
noted
it,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
ought
to
do
more,
that
we
ought
to
make
the
public
aware
that
this
is
a
letter.
E
B
I
mentioned
earlier
that
the
city
actually
has,
on
its
website
an
faq
page
regarding
athens
services,
so
that
anybody
in
the
community
who
has
questions
can
actually
go
on
the
website
and
find
the
facts.
And
obviously
this
item
is
not
on
the
agenda,
but
certainly
for
informational
purposes.
Residents
can
go
onto
the
city's
website
and
look
for
the
athens
services
faq
and
athens
is
also
in
the
process
besides
appearing
tonight.
Countering
all
of
these
accusations
using
other
channels
and
our
city
manager
can
speak
to
that.
O
Yeah,
just
very
very
briefly,
obviously
because
it's
not
agendas,
but
I
wanted
to
let
councilmember
jones
know
I'll
I'll
be
happy
to
send
you
a
copy
via
email
over.
It
was
a
direct
mail
piece
that
arrived
over
the
weekend.
Interestingly,
athens
had
their
welcome
letter
that
arrived
just
yesterday
into
mailboxes,
so
you
may
have
begun
receiving
that.
If
your
residence,
we
have
had
a
conversation
with
athens,
they
are
going
to
be
having
a
number
of
responses
out
there,
utilizing
various
media
sources
and
are
actively
involved
in
countering
falsehoods.
B
Thank
you
all
right.
We
can
now
go
to
the
consent.
Calendar
item
number
seven.
Is
there
anything
that
my
colleagues
would
like
to
pull.
H
E
N
F
Yeah,
the
council
member
jones-
this
is
knotter
with
the
public
works
department
yeah.
This
is
a
plan
that
we
recently
put
together
by
you
know
a
third
party,
independent
traffic
engineering
expert,
to
take
a
look
at
our
roadways
and
see
how
we
can
go
about
making
them
even
more
safe.
F
This
plan,
also,
as
of
next
year,
becomes
required
to
for
municipalities
to
have
in
place
if
they
are
to
pursue
certain
grants
from
caltrans
and
so
forth,
so
we're
ahead
of
the
curve
when
we
got
the
grant
completed
and
in
fact
some
of
the
findings
of
the
grant
were
already,
I
mean
of
the
plan
already
helped
us
secure
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
grants
for
various
components,
such
as
guard
rails,
reflective
back
plates
and
flashing
beacons
for
various
areas,
city-wide,
which
we
were
successfully
able
to
obtain
earlier
this
year.
F
So
the
plan
outlines
additional
potential
safety
improvements
beyond
that,
and
we're
going
to
be
pursuing
grant
opportunities
to
try
to
bring
those
to
fruition
in
the
coming
year
or
two.
E
These
are
all
items
that
would
make
our
roads
safer.
To
drive
on
than
walk
across
is
that
it.
E
You
know
with
that
in
mind
since
a
moment
ago
you
talked
about
charlotte
and
wendy.
E
That
is
one
day
at
that
point
is
if
people
are
going
north
they're
coming
downhill
and
they
tend
to
develop
a
lot
of
speed
right
there
at
charlotte
and
is
there
some
way
we
can
put
flashing
lights
or
the
same
type
of
thing,
perhaps
that
we
put
at
some
of
the
schools
I'm
thinking
of
colina
in
the
crosswalk
there,
because
you
know
some
people
think
if
there
are
two
lines
across
the
street
they
can
walk
on.
That
makes
them
automatically
safe.
E
I
I
I
think
we
ought
to
really
be
concerned
about
putting
that
crosstalk
there
across
wendy
at
charlotte,
because
of
the
the
speed.
Is
there
some
yeah.
F
We
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
more
advanced
crosswalk
there.
It's
not
just
striping,
it
will
include
signage
and
it
will
include
some
lighting
and
newer,
newer
generational
lightings,
not
the
ones
that
are
in
the
asphalt,
but
the
ones
that
are
led
lights
that
are
brighter.
That
are,
you
know,
at
each
corner,
to
attract
the
the
driver's
attention.
E
Well,
I'm
glad
to
hear
it
because
I
would
be
very
careful
walking
crossing
wendy
at
that
area.
So
thanks
for
doing
that,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
E
I
don't
know
I'd
like
to
mention
I'd
like
to
publicize
the
memorial
service
for
former
mayor
and
councilman
lawrence
horner.
Do
we
have
the
date
of
that
matter?
Mayor.
E
September
11th
he's
been
a
great
contributor,
I've,
I've
known
him
for
50
years,
and
he
served
for
over
16
years
on
the
council
and
was
really
responsible
for
a
lot
of
positive
important
improvements
in
the
city
and
I'd
just
like
to
make
note
of
that
for
the
general
public.
I
hope
as
many
as
hear
this
and
understand
what
a
great
guy
he
was
and
what
a
great
contribution
he
made
to
the
city
would
be
in
attendance
at
that
particular
facility.
E
D
D
I
B
Thank
you,
and
also
as
a
reminder,
council,
member
jones
and
everyone
else.
We
will
adjourn
today's
meeting
in
memory
of
larry
horner
and
next
is
item
10a,
which
is
the
los
feliz
sidewalk
sidewalk
project
phase
two,
and
this
will
be
presented
by
our
public
works
deputy
director,
mr
haidari.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
mayor
and
good
evening,
I'm
here
tonight
to
present
the
los
feliz
phase
two
sidewalk
project.
Please
advise
if
the
screen
share
is
working
properly.
It
is
great
with
me
tonight
our
senior
engineer,
mike
davidian
and
engineering
associate
michelle
mccarty
to
present
on
the
project
and
address
any
questions.
Here's
the
project
limit
the
location
map.
The
project
is
on
both
sides
of
los
feliz
drive
between
thousand
explorer
and
canada
school
road.
F
It's
approximately
half
of
a
mile
in
total
length
phase,
one
of
the
project
from
skyline
to
canal
school
road
was
successfully
completed
in
2016,
and
therefore
the
completion
of
this
segment
will
provide
one
of
the
last
remaining
last
missing
pedestrian
access
linkages
to
connect
the
entire
surrounding
neighborhood
to
the
thousands
boulevard
area
and
civic
arts
plaza
area.
F
This
missing
sidewalk
has
been
requested
by
the
community,
and
the
city
is
responding
by
virtue
of
this
project
to
the
community's
needs.
The
main
objectives
of
this
project
are
to
improve
the
overall
safety
for
the
community
by
providing
a
continuous
sidewalk
on
los
fellas
drive
from
thousand
floor
heart
to
canada,
school
road.
This
will
help
accommodate
the
substantial
pedestrian
activity.
F
That's
in
that
neighborhood
from
the
large
multi-family
multi-family
residential
developments,
as
well
as
the
parents
and
students
accessing
canal
elementary
school,
which
is
at
the
eastern
end
of
the
project
at
las
fulos
drive
and
pineal
school
road.
Other
objectives
of
the
project
include
upgrading
existing
sections
of
sidewalk
to
become
compliant
with
the
latest
federal
ada
standards.
F
Completing
the
project,
while
minimizing
parking
and
tree
impacts
as
much
as
possible,
and
another
critical
element
of
the
project
is
a
replacement
of
approximately
two
thousand
feet
of
aging
and
undersized
six
inch
water
main
line
with
a
new
ten
inch,
water
main
and
new
service
laterals
for
all
the
properties
which
will
provide
improved
fire
flow
protection
and
domestic
water
supply
for
the
entire
neighborhood
in
total.
This
is
a
great
project
for
the
community
and
all
the
verses
excited
to
move
it
into
the
construction
phase.
F
There
are
also
at
this
at
the
current
moment,
27
existing
off-pavement
parking
spaces
along
the
project
limits
that
will
mostly
be
repurposed
into
new,
curb
and
sidewalk
to
provide
the
continuous
sidewalk
that's
needed
in
many
of
these
areas.
The
roadway
is
not
wide
enough
to
install
the
new
sidewalk
and
still
allow
for
on-street
parking,
as
you
can
see
in
the
image
here.
F
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
the
goal
of
the
project
was
to
provide
sidewalk
and
on-street
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
This
graphic
shows
the
full
street
section
in
the
areas
where
we
have
the
real
estate
and
are
able
to
provide
the
on-street
parking
in
addition
to
the
sidewalk,
which
will
be
continuous
sidewalk
wherever
possible.
In
many
areas,
we
weren't
able
to
preserve
the
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street
and
still
maintain
the
required
12
foot
minimum
lane
widths,
as
required
by
the
ventura
county
fire
department.
F
As
far
as
tree
impacts,
the
project
received
a
protected
tree
permit
earlier
this
month,
and
this
permit
is
consistent
with
the
oak
city's
oak
tree
preservation
and
production
guidelines
and
covers
the
potential
encroachment
of
22
protected
trees
along
the
project
limits,
including
four
valley
oaks.
Five,
california,
sycamores
and
13
coast
live
oak
trees.
The
majority
of
these
trees
are
located
on
an
adjoining
private
property
behind
the
sidewalk.
F
F
The
city
received
seven
bids
earlier
this
summer
for
the
project,
with
a
low
bid
coming
in
the
amount
of
1.5
million
from
toro
enterprises
in
oxnard,
but
this
was
below
our
engineer's
estimate.
Toro
has
completed
similar
sidewalk
projects
for
the
city
in
the
past,
including
the
wesley
boulevard
sidewalk
project.
A
couple
of
years
ago.
F
F
The
staff
recommendations
are
included
in
the
staff
report
and
this
concludes
the
report
again
just
to
recap,
this
is
a
great
project
for
the
neighborhood
that
responds
to
the
needs
of
the
neighborhood
and
improve
safety
for
both
motorists
and
pedestrians
and
upgrades
the
critical
water
infrastructure
on
that
street.
At
the
same
time,
thank
you
again
for
your
time
and
staff
is
available
to
answer
any
questions.
B
I
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Just
a
quick
question.
I've
had
several
people
who
live
in
that
area
who
are
very
excited
to
have
this
project
come
in.
Can
you
give
me
an
idea
of
what
other
types
of
comments
you've
received
from
the
neighbors
neighborhood
up
in
that
general
area
of
this
project?
F
Most
of
the
comments
were
dealing
with
some
of
the
easement
acquisitions.
We
had
to
obtain
temporary
construction
impacts.
F
You
know
the
timing,
access
to
driveways
and
some
of
the
details
that
were
going
to
be
worked
out
and
as
we
go
into
the
construction
phase,
but
in
addition
to
that
there
were
some
comments
about
you
know:
preserving
trees
and
sight
distance
and
all
parking
impacts
that
we
were
able
to
address
and
explain
to
everybody.
I
And-
and
you
mentioned
in
your
your
report-
that
the
on-street
parking
will
actually
be
enhanced
a
little
bit.
Is
that
what
I
heard
yeah
the.
F
Permanent
parking
spaces,
which
are
curbside
spaces,
will
increase
from
57
to
66
at
the
completion
of
the
project.
There
are
obviously
cars
that
are
currently
parking
off
the
pavement
in
the
location
of
where
the
sidewalk
is
supposed
to
be
that
are
additional
spaces
that
are
out
there
right
now,
which
are
you
know.
I
guess
you
can
call
miscellaneous
parking
spaces
which
are
not
curbside
and
they're,
basically
in
the
way
of
the
future
sidewalks.
So
as
with
any
street
that
gets
fully
improved,
you
know
that
those
will
no.
B
B
Okay,
let
me
just
check
with
mr
jones,
mr
jones.
M
Just
want
to
congratulate
staff
on
this
very
well
put
together
project
and
the
fact
that
they
went
out
there
and
have
paid
roughly
half
of
the
project
cost
with
this
active
transportation
grant
through
the
california
department
of
transportation
is
really
well
thought
out,
made
the
project
shovel
ready
and
we're
going
to
defer
half
those
costs
through
that
grant,
and
we
get
a
lot
of
public
benefit
for
this.
E
B
B
5-0,
thank
you,
and
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is
very
good
at
receiving
grants
for
public
infrastructure
improvements
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
next
big
one,
which
is
willow
lane
on
the
horizon.
In
a
few
weeks,
all
right
and
with
that
we
go
to
a
much
anticipated
item,
10b,
which
is
the
sale
and
purchase
agreement
for
hillcrest
christian
school,
and
this
will
be
presented
by
our
economic
development,
director
or
manager.
Mr
hader
alawami
good
evening.
P
P
The
current
zoning
on
it
is
r3,
which
is
multi-family
residential
and
the
general
plan
designation.
There
are
several
designations
on
the
saturn
and
I
can
explain
what's
going
on
here,
it's
institutional.
It
is
existing
park,
golf
courses
and
open
space.
P
If
you
look
at
the
map
on
the
left
side,
you
see
a
stellar
park
to
the
south
of
the
parcel
and
the
configuration
of
the
parcel,
which
is
like
an
l-shape.
P
Many
years
ago
there
was
no
technology
when
we
done
the
general
plan
to
actually
delineate
the
park.
The
way
it
is
built.
So
the
general
plan
map
shows
a
straight
line
where
the
l-shaped
base
goes
straight
to
earth's
road,
which,
which
is
again,
it's
not
accurate.
P
An
amendment
or
a
modification
to
the
general
plan
needs
to
be
done
to
reflect
the
actual
designation
of
the
side
of
institutional
and
delete
that
open
space
designation,
which
was
ma
and
staff's
opinion,
is
an
error.
So
with
that
that
building
was
an
abandoned
hospital
and
in
1976
the
school,
purchased
the
property
and
filed
an
application
to
convert
the
the
building
into
a
school.
P
In
order
for
us
to
do
negotiation
to
start
negotiations,
staff
hire
the
consultant
to
prepare
a
consultation
appraisal.
So
we
have
an
idea,
so
staff
can
have
an
idea
of
what
the
fair
market
value
of
the
property
and
that
appraisal
came
to.
The
range
is
between
9.3
and
11
million
dollars.
P
So
when
we
got
that
appraisal,
we
started
negotiation
with
the
property
owner
and
there's
offers
and
counter
offers,
and
on
june
10th,
a
letter
of
interest
was
signed
by
both
the
seller,
as
well
as
the
city
establishing
a
10
million
tentative
sale
offer
which
is
within
the
range
that
was
shown
in
appraisal.
P
So,
in
order
to
help
us
with
the
process
the
rest
of
the
way
with
regard
to
actually
preparing
the
sale,
the
purchase
and
sales
agreement
and
other
documentation
to
finalize
the
sale,
we
staff
hired
hammer
and
jewell,
who
has
ongoing
contract
with
the
city
to
help
staff
in
that
process
and
that
include
escrow,
closing
escrow
and
all
other
documents,
that's
needed
for
the
actual
transaction.
P
So
if
the
city
council
tonight
choose
to
purchase
this
property,
it
will
provide
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
to
collaborate
with
a
potential
affordable
housing
developer
of
the
site,
to
provide
a
much
needed,
affordable
units
in
the
city
which
is
which
will
meet
our
arena.
Regional
housing
need
and
assessment
obligations
that
required
by
the
state.
P
If
the.
If
the
council
just
choose
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
this
and
designate
the
site
for
affordable
housing,
there
is
an
excess
funds
left
in
the
successor,
housing
fund
of
1.2
million
dollars
that
could
be
used
to
purchase
the
site.
The
remaining
balance
for
the
purchase,
which
is
8.8
million
dollars.
P
It's
already
in
approved
to
your
budget
that
the
city
council
approved
earlier
this
year,
and
it
was
set
aside
that
money
was
set
aside
for
affordable
housing
as
well
as
emergency,
supportive
housing
and
shelter.
So
the
money
is
already
in
the
budget
and
was
approved
by
the
city
council
moving
forward
and
in
order
to
attract
and
get
a
collaboration
relationship,
a
request
for
proposal.
P
Qualification
needs
to
be
prepared
with
provisions
in
it
that
will
set
certain
development
criteria
and
standards
for
that
site
to
make
sure
that
whatever
project
that's
gonna
being
proposed
is
gonna
fit
within
the
existing
environment.
At
that
corner,
there's
topography,
issues
that
are
major
intersections,
as
well
as
some
simple
family
homes.
So
all
those
sensitive
topics
needs
to
be
addressed
and
that's
through
the
rfp.
Our
cue
process
would
be
able
to
add
those
criteria.
P
P
P
So
with
the
recommendations
and
the
all
in
the
staff
report
again
approved
the
purchase
and
sale
agreement
tonight
authorized
expenditure
of
1.2
million
from
the
house
and
successful
fund
and
8.8
million
from
the
general
fund
additionally
approved
budget
of
prohibition,
expenditure,
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
general
front
for
both
fiscal
year,
21
22
and
22,
22-23
for
maintenance
and
operation
of
the
site
and
the
property
and
for
the
city
council
to
provide
direction
to
staff
on
the
future
use
of
the
site
when
it
comes
to
affordable
type,
affordable
type
housing
and
also
authorized
staff
to
prepare
an
rfp
and
rfq
for
for
the
property.
P
So
with
that,
I
conclude
my
presentation
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
O
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
de
la
pena.
I
just
wanted
to
to
quickly
note
for
the
council
and
the
community
as
a
reminder
how
we
arrived
here
this
evening.
The
council
set
forth
in
your
priorities
back
in
march,
a
desire
to
focus
on.
O
Housing
particularly
shortfalls
in
our
region,
regional
housing
needs
assessment.
We
also
heard
quite
a
bit
during
the
general
plan
process,
a
desire
for
a
focus
on
on
affordable
housing
and
thus
appealing
the
council's
priority.
With
that
priority,
the
council
adopted
a
budget
in
june
that
established
one-time
funds
set
aside
of
16
million
dollars
to
address
housing
and
homelessness
issues.
O
I
wanted
to
say
a
note
of
thanks
just
getting
us
to
this
point
for
hedera
elami,
jamie
boscarino,
our
city,
attorney's
staff
and
deputy
city
manager,
gary
rogers,
in
transactions
like
this,
you
have
to
move
through
due
diligence
at
a
very
rapid
clip
and
they've
dedicated
significant
time
of
resource
over
the
summer
to
bring
it
to
this
point.
Where
it's
an
item
for
discussion
and
consideration
on
part
of
the
city
council,
that's
it.
Q
Your
microphone,
please,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
do.
I
just
want
to
clarify
we're
looking
at
17
units
per
acre.
Is
that
correct.
P
Not
at
this
time,
the
density
has
not
been
determined
through
the
rfp
rfq
process
and
direction
from
the
council
tonight.
Regarding
it's
gonna
be
for
rent
or
for
sale,
affordable
housing.
We
will
determine
what
potential
density
and
the
general
plan
designation
would
be.
My
understanding
is
the
under
the
preferred
land
use
alternative.
It
is
neighborhood
medium
which
is
10
to
20
units
per
acre,
or
I
need
to
confirm
that,
but
with
that
density
again
depending
on
the
type
of
housing.
J
L
If
council
provides
this
direction
for
staff,
we'd
also
like
to
urge
staff
and
council
members
to
consider
the
benefits
of
an
all-electric
project.
I'd
like
to
remind
the
council
that
35
percent
of
our
city's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
come
from
buildings,
the
second
largest
source
behind
transportation.
L
Reducing
emissions
from
buildings
provides
one
of
the
most
feasible
opportunities
for
cutting
emissions,
as
transforming
the
entire
transportation
sector
will
prove
really
challenging
at
the
local
level.
Ccc
has
been
researching
the
feasibility
of
all
electric
projects
in
southern
california
for
some
time
and
we've
spoken
directly
with
an
affordable
housing
developer
national
core
on
the
topic
of
electrification.
L
National
core
currently
has
10
to
15
projects
in
the
pipeline
in
southern
california.
Some
of
them
at
a
very
large
scale
and
everything
they
have
planned
will
be
all
electric
one
example
of
a
newly
finished
all-electric.
Affordable
project
is
vista
verde,
where
they
built
101
units
of
family
housing
with
individual
heat
pump,
water
heaters,
a
solar
pv
system
with
storage
and
designs
for
future
installation
of
ev
chargers
for
each
apartment.
L
L
Tim
kohut
national
course,
director
of
sustainable
design
had
this
to
say
in
a
cal
matters,
article
on
affordable
housing.
If
national
core
can
make
all
electric
buildings
work
with
affordable
housing
budgets
where
every
dollar
counts,
anyone
can
do
it
we'd
like
to
urge
the
city
to
follow
this
shining
sample
and
build
a
project
that
all
residents
at
the
canejo
valley
can
be
proud
of
one
that's
truly
affordable,
resilient,
healthy
green,
and
that
sets
the
pace
for
the
rapid
emission
reductions
that
we
all
need
to
live
on
a
habitable
earth.
Thank
you.
So
much.
J
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members.
I
will
be
very
brief.
I
just
would
like
to
speak
in
support
of
the
purchase
of
this
property
for
affordable
housing.
If
the
city
relies
on
developers
for
the
development
of
work,
affordable,
housing,
there's
money
that
just
goes
into
the
pocket
of
the
developers
that
should
be
used
to
provide
more
housing
for
our
residents.
D
Yes,
my
name
is
gordon
clint
and
I've
been
a
homeowner
at
newbury
park
for
many
years
as
and
also
as
a
member
of
the
chalice
unitarian
universal
fellowship
and
the
canal
climate
coalition.
I
care
deeply
about
both
social
justice
and
climate
justice.
D
Less
commuting
will
allow
employees
to
spend
more
time
with
their
families
and
reduce
greenhouse
gas
pollution.
It
will
also
be
another
step
towards
our
city's
goal
of
improving
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
this
purchase
and
I
hope
it
leads
to
the
the
kind
of
things
we
need.
Thank
you.
R
R
I
would
like
the
city
council
to
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
place
a
large
number
of
units
for
people
who
would
not
normally
be
able
to
afford
to
live
in
thousand
oaks
or
who
are
currently
struggling
to
live
in
thousand
oaks
within
easy
walking,
distance
of
the
shops
and
services
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
also
with
concurrent
access
to
the
thousand
oaks
transit
system
and
potentially
with
improvements
in
the
transit
system
and
improvements
in
our
bicycle
facilities
throughout
the
city,
potentially
access
throughout
the
city
as
well
with
those
means
of
travel.
R
I
strongly
encourage
the
city
to
think
beyond
just
what
is
in
the
general
plan,
use
designation
for
this
property
and
imagine
how
you
can
comfortably
fit
a
larger
number
of
people
than
just
20
units
per
acre
will
allow,
whether
it
be
with
apartments
or
row
houses
or
some
other
kind
of
dense
housing
configuration
that
can
still
fit
in
with
our
our
city's
character.
R
It
does
this
by
a
combination
of
having
access
to
a
light
rail
station
nearby,
which,
of
course,
we
won't
have,
but
we
do
have
our
bus
system
that
may
hopefully
expand
in
the
future
and
it
offers
what
I
believe
is
the
solution,
which
is
to
have
a
car
share
system
on
site,
so
that
cars,
instead
of
being
individually
owned
and
individually
garaged
on
site,
serve
the
entire
community
at
the
time
that
they
are
needed
by
those
members
of
the
community
living
on
the
site
and
then
go
on
to
serve
someone
else,
instead
of
just
taking
up
space
there.
R
D
I
live
in
simi
valley,
I'm
coming
to
you
tonight
as
the
president
of
homes
for
generations
of
ventura
county.
We
are
a
non-profit
community
land
trust
designed
to
create
affordable
housing
for
sale
in
ventura
county.
There
are
more
than
225
community
land
trusts
around
the
county,
but
we
were
the
first
formed
in
ventura
county.
D
D
I
want
to
commend
this
council
for
taking
this
step
and
considering
this
action
tonight.
This
is
what
your
community
and
communities
all
across
southern
california
are
asking
for:
cities
to
make
housing
affordable
and
this
council
and
this
staff
is
doing
that
through
this
effort
on
the
hillcrest
property.
It's
a
great
move
by
your
council,
and
I
want
to
assure
you
that
when
this
rfp
goes
out,
homes
for
generations
of
ventura
county
and
our
partners
in
the
affordable
housing
development
community
will
be
right.
D
B
Thank
you
very
much,
so
mr
gallagher
was
our
last
speaker.
I
appreciate
that.
Certainly
we've
heard
now
from
our
public
speakers
and
staff
is
available
for
questions.
I
would
like
to
say
that
before
we
go
into
discussion
that
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
along
with
many
other
cities
in
california,
had
relied
on
funding
through
the
redevelopment
agency
for
many
years,
but
the
redevelopment
agency
was
dissolved
in
2012.
B
our
last
public
project.
Public
housing
project
was
with
the
ventura
county
area
housing
agency
on
hillcrest
and
that,
I
believe,
was
in
2013.,
but
over
the
years
while
the
rda
was
in
effect,
we
had
received
58
million
dollars
and
with
those
fifty
eight
million
dollars,
we
provided
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
fourteen
affordable
units,
four
thousand
oaks.
When
that
flow
of
funding
was
cut
off
nine
years
ago,
we,
along
with
many
other
cities,
were
left
holding
the
bag.
How
were
we
going
to
provide
now
affordable
housing
with
that
important
source
gone?
B
I'm
personally
very
excited
about
this
and
just
wanted
to
say
that
there
has
been
so
much
discussion
about
this
affordable
housing,
but
one
has
to
recognize
many
factors
contribute
to
the
housing
crisis.
Income.
Inequality
is
a
big
factor
of
that,
and
so,
and
certainly
the
the
value
of
land
and
tonight's
proposal
is
not
cheap.
It
is
very
expensive
because
land
in
california
is
expensive.
B
So
I'm
going
to
look
at
my
colleagues
now-
and
I
see
that
hand
is
up
by
council
member
mcnamee.
Q
Q
We're
looking
at
20
units
per
acre
right
now
under
the
general
plan
as
a
maximum,
and
I
would
encourage
our
council
here
to
hold
to
that,
because
if
it's
increased
the
number
of
units
per
acre,
that
means
that
the
seller
right
now
has
lost
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
that
should
have
been
under
consideration
if
it
was
a
higher
number.
That's
the
first
point,
second,
is
that
the
lazy
policy
maker
looks
at
moving
taxpayer
money
from
in
one
end
of
the
economy
to
the
other
to
suit
whatever
problem
presents
itself,
in
this
case,
affordable
housing.
Q
Q
And,
yes,
we
can
point
to
the
land
value
and
demand
in
a
wonderful
community,
but
when
a
developer
tells
me
in
thousand
oaks,
it's
five
to
six
years
to
develop
a
property
from
the
time
they
take
possession
of
that
piece
of
land
to
the
time
they
get
occupancy.
It's
five
to
six
years
down
the
road
carrying
costs
are
seventeen
thousand
dollars
per
unit
that
means
per
apartment
per
condo
per
townhome
per
house.
Q
Q
Let's
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
government
more
efficient
because,
as
I
talk
to
developers
who
are
doing
projects
in
other
states,
they're
speaking
to
two
to
three
years
to
get
a
project
done
in
other
states
that
are
more
efficient
government
to
move
it
through
when
we're
talking
five
to
six
years.
Eighty
five
thousand
dollars
cut
in
half
or
more
is
a
pretty
significant
reduction
to
make
it
affordable
for
everybody
and
government
doesn't
have
to
use
taxpayer
dollars
to
provide
affordable
housing.
Q
So
my
recommendation
is
that
we
start
looking
at
how
we
can
make
the
process
more
streamlined,
more
efficient
to
reduce
the
time
it
takes
from
the
time
property
is
taken
by
the
developer
and
developed,
and
they
get
occupancy
from
a
five-year
type
plan
down
to
a
two
to
three
years,
as
other
states
and
other
governments
are
doing.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
too
am
excited
that
this
project
is
is
before
us
tonight.
I
think
that,
as
you
pointed
out,
when
there
was
redevelopment
agency
money
that
we
could
dedicate
to
these
types
of
needed
aspects
of
our
city,
we
were
able
to
do
quite
a
bit
of
work
with
it.
I
I
The
missing
part
of
some
of
our
affordable
housing,
though
I
think
is
we
have.
We
have
some
affordable
housing
through
our
partner
mini
mansions,
who
does
a
great
job,
but
the
missing
part
is
the
a
stair
ladder
for
people
to
have
a
below
market
rate
for
purchase,
and
I
I
think,
if
we
can
provide
that
type
of
you
know
ladder
for
people
to
become
you
know,
perhaps
go
out
and
get
their
own
house
at
market
rate
sometime
down
the
line.
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
way
that
we
could
fill
a
niche
within
our
community
that
doesn't
exist
right
now.
So
my
my
thought
is
that
we
should
approve
the
purchase
of
this
location
and,
of
course,
have
it
monitored
and
worked
with
other
partners
to
be
able
to
give
that
missing.
Link
of
affordability
to
some
of
our
members.
E
Yeah,
madam
mayor,
I
would
like
to
also
agree
with
what
is
proposed
tonight.
You
know
we
keep
getting
these
mandates
from
the
state
to
build
more
and
more
affordable
housing
and,
as
I
think,
councilman
angler
just
alluded
to.
E
If
you
make
that
part
of
a
project,
the
developer
is
still
going
to
have
to
make
a
profit
and
if
he
designates
a
certain
number
of
units
as
affordable,
he
raises
the
density
way
up.
I
think
the
proposal
originally,
if
I
I'm
not
mistaken
or
the
christmas
tree
or
pumpkin
patch,
lock
whatever
it
is
on
to
boulevard,
was
like
50
units
an
acre.
E
As
I
say,
this
would
be
at
a
density.
I
don't
know
what
the
optimum
density
is
to
have
a
a
unit,
a
development
that
is
easy
to
live
in.
It
has
enough
space
for
the
homes
that
has
actually
it's
a
wonderful
location
because
it
has
access
to
a
stellar
park,
which,
I
might
note
parenthetically
is
the
original
part
of
the
canada
recreation
and
park
district
now
that
they
have
50
of
them.
That
was
the
first
one.
So
I
think
this
particular
project
is
in
a
great
location.
E
I
I
do
not
think
that
there
should
be
any
problem
with
the
immediate
neighborhood.
You
have
an
apartment
house
across
herbs.
You
have
a
vacant
lot
across
the
street
to
the
north.
E
There
are
single-family
homes
directly
to
the
east
on
glenwood
I
I
would
hope
they
would
welcome
this
project,
so
I
think
it's
really
a
win-win
project.
I
think
it
allows
us
to
show
the
state
that
we're
doing
our
best
for
affordable
housing
and,
at
the
same
time,
that
we
are
making
a
a
housing
involvement
in
a
suitable
environment
with
a
park
next
door
and
hopefully
at
a
density
that
will
not
be
anywhere
near
the
50
units
per
acre
that
was
proposed
for
geo
boulevard.
E
B
Thank
you,
mr
jones
council
member
adam
has
his
hand
up,
but
I
wanted
to
first
propose
that
we
break
up
the
votes
according
to
the
recommendations
on
item
10b,
one
two,
three
and
four
really
deal
with
grant
authorization
or
the
purchase,
whereas
five
and
six,
and
in
particular,
five
deal
more
with
the
decision
and
discussion
of
future
use
and
the
policy
direction.
B
M
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
yeah.
For
years
now,
we've
talked
about
the
lack
of
redevelopment
agency
funds
and
how
that's
hampered
us
with
affordable
housing
here
at
thousand
oaks.
So
now
we
finally
have
a
chance
to
make
up
for
that
dearth
of
funds
by
thanks
to
good
fiscal
stewardship
on
our
part,
be
able
to
put
some
money
forward
to
purchase
this
land
and
give
people
a
chance
to
get
a
foothold
here
in
the
city.
M
And
of
course
it's
not
like.
We
haven't
done
that
in
the
interim,
when
we
did
lose
a
redevelopment
agency
funds,
we've
had
a
number
of
projects
in
front
of
us,
but
you
know
the
first
step
with
any
affordable
project.
Is
you
have
to
vote
for
it
and
that's
why
the
kmart
site
the
nazer
beacon
side,
the
299
side
are,
in
my
opinion,
so
important,
because
they
do
embed,
affordable
units
within
those
projects
and
any
organization,
no
matter
how
great
they
are,
can
always
be
more
efficient
in
processing
things.
M
So
I
mean
I'm
all
for
that,
but
the
first
step
is:
we
have
to
vote
for
the
project
and
after
that
we
can
always
try
to
be
more
efficient
to
get
that
project
up
out
of
the
ground.
This
particular
project,
though
the
ones
I
just
mentioned,
were
all
rentals.
M
M
That's
around
the
city
with
these
high
home
prices
and
give
people
a
chance
to
start
to
accrue
some
wealth
in
their
lives,
and
that's
why
I
would
definitely
be
in
favor
of
having
these
units
be
for
sale,
I'd
like
to
give
staff
that
direction
as
they
go
out
with
that
rfp
rfq
request,
and
I
guess
I
can
make
a
motion
and
what'd
you
say
mayor
you
wanted
to
see.
Yes,.
B
Yeah,
if
you
could
just
make
a
motion
for
one
two,
three
and
four,
because
that
deals
with
authorizing
the
money
to
purchase
and
then
we
can
talk
about
the
future,
use
whether
sale,
condos
townhomes,
whatever
for
points
five
and
six.
So
go
ahead.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
moving
one
through
four.
C
M
B
M
Yeah
I
can
make
that
motion.
I
think
that's
the
right
way
to
go
on
this
particular
site.
B
Yes,
excuse
me:
we
do
have
two
hands
up
mayor,
protem,
engler
and
then
councilmember
mcnamee.
I
I
I
was
going
to
say
that
that
would
be
my
preference
on
this
property
that
we
do
use
it,
as,
as
I
mentioned
before,
that
laddering
effect
for
people
who
are
coming
out
of
rentals
into
an
into
a
pro
for
purchase
and
then
be
able
to
share
that
equity
down
the
line
with
the
next
person
coming
through.
I
That
would
be
my
preference,
because
I
think
it
adds
that
laddering
effect
that
we're
missing
in
town
I'd
also,
I
mean
I
appreciate
the
people
from
the
climate
coalition
saying
that
we
should
look
at
if,
if,
if
we
can
all
do
it
to
be
a
a
green,
it's
a
building
we
can
build.
But
primarily
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
the
ability
to
house
some
people
with
an
equity
balance
going
their
way
as
well.
Q
Q
I
am
of
the
opinion
that
it
should
be
up
to
the
open
market,
the
developer,
to
figure
out
if
they
want
to
offer
both
electric
and
or
natural
gas
to
help
keep
costs
down
for
them
and
not
enrich
the
electric
producers.
Q
This
idea
that
we're
going
to
be
burning
up
in
10
years
that
was
supposed
to
have
occurred
10
years
ago
and
to
us
those
of
us
that
experienced
what
happened
in
texas
and
you
see
what
occurred
there,
that
their
entire
grid
went
down
when
they
had
a
snowstorm
and
their
solar
panels
didn't
work
or
their
windmills
were
frozen,
electricity
wasn't
being
produced
and
they
were
stuck.
So
I'm
of
the
opinion,
let
them
free
market
decide
which
way
they
want
to
go,
and
my
preference
is
to
include
both
if
I
were
the
developer.
Q
Q
That's
up
to
the
service
groups,
the
non-profits,
the
religious
faith-based
charities,
when
we
offer
this
property
as
a
form
of
ability
to
quote
get
their
foot
in
home
ownership.
That's
not
our
job
as
a
government.
Q
Our
job
is
to
provide
a
framework
upon
which
the
market
can
work.
I
illustrated
in
my
comments
before
that
builders
developers,
contractors,
trades
and
residents
are
telling
me
that
it
is
cost
prohibitive
to
build
here
in
thousand
oaks
and
if
they
do
build,
our
inefficiency
of
our
planning,
building
and
public
works
department
is
driving
up
the
cost
of
affordable
housing.
Here
in
thousand
oaks,
we
need
to
become
more
efficient
as
a
government.
Q
It's
now
no
fault
of
the
staff,
that's
involved
there
or
the
management.
We
just
need
to
reorganize
and
do
things
differently.
So
that
way,
we
can
do
it
in
one
two,
three
years,
that
other
states
are
doing
it.
Instead
of
five
and
six
years,
when
I
hear
a
developer
tell
me
they
spend
half
a
million
dollars
on
redoing
plans
and
engineering
designs
to
finally
get
a
project
approved,
that's
wrong
and
that's
driving
up
the
price
of
housing.
Q
So
you
can
say
demand
you
can
say
land
prices,
you
can
say
whatever
you
want,
but
when
that
developer,
who
you
think
is
making
lots
of
money
is
not
really
making
lots
of
money.
In
fact,
many
times,
they're
negative
and
won't
see
return
on
their
money
for
20
years
because
of
the
delays,
our
government,
our
city
government,
our
planning
building
and
the
project
works
are
imposing
upon
these
developers
and
contractors
coming
in.
Q
So
my
thought
is
that
there
should
not
be
homes
for
sale
if
you
want
to
do
them
as
apartments
for
low-income
housing
to
satisfy
arena
numbers
that
I
can
live
with.
But
if
people
were
to
purchase
these
homes,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
tiered
ladder
system
where
they
can
pass
that
on
to
somebody
else.
That's
30
years
down
the
road
and
that's
going
to
be
a
long
way
down.
How
long
are
these
people
going
to
be
in
those
homes?
Q
Are
they
any
motivation
to
move
out
of
the
homes
to
another
home
that
they
actually
come
in
with
the
down
payment?
And
then
what
about
those
people
that
actually
saved
to
live
in
thousand
oaks,
but
didn't
make
the
low
number
that
it
would
qualify
for
them
to
move
into
these
homes
they're
homeless?
Right
now,
because
we
are
doing
this
by
allowing
government
to
weaponize
government
to
provide
affordable
housing
for
people
that
make
under
a
certain
income
to
buy
that
house
what
about
those
people
that
are
saving
right
now
to
move
into
thousand
oaks?
Q
I
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
If
I
can
borrow
my
co,
my
colleagues,
the
soapbox
for
just
one
second,
the
I
I
don't
look
at
government
as
charity,
either
there's
a
a
need
in
town
in
the
same
way
that
there's
needs
for
parks
the
same
with
their
needs
for
for
the
same
way
that
there's
a
need
for
proper
management
of
our
city.
I
That's
as
valid
a
need,
as
any
other
need
that
we
can.
We
can
put
forward,
therefore,
by
using
this
as
a
the
ability
to,
as
you
mentioned,
meet
our
irene
some
of
our
arena
needs,
but
it
also
will,
if
it's
done
in
a
for
sale
type
environment
of
the
type
I've
heard
that
the
land
trust
and
those
types
of
organizations
use
it
will
provide
a
ladder.
I
It
will
provide
the
ability
for
people
to
move
into
regular
housing,
and,
that's
to
me,
that's
a
valid
need
for
our
city
to
provide
has
nothing
to
do
with
charity.
It
has
to
do
with
making
a
better
city.
Thank
you
I'll.
Give
you
I'll
give
you
the
soapbox
back.
S
B
City
manager
drew
powers.
E
You
know
young
professional
people
in
construct,
people
just
for
typical
incomes
could
come
here
and
you
have
to
show
you
made
a
third
of
the
total
price
of
the
house
per
year
in
order
to
buy
a
house
predicated
on
the
idea
that
people
should
spend
no
more
than
about
30,
maybe
33
percent
of
their
income
on
housing.
So
they'd
have
the
balance
for
food
clothing,
transportation,
medicine,
whatever
else
they
need
it.
E
E
E
Be
spending
more
than
than
30
on
the
on
the
monthly
payments,
because
you
still
have
a
balance
of
four
or
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
In
short,
the
only
way
you're
going
to
have
affordable
housing
is
if
the
city
or
some
governmental
entity,
aids
in
the
financing
of
the
land,
and
that's
what
we're
looking
at
here
yeah.
I
would
too
getting
back
to
the
basic
question
that
al
raised.
E
I
would
be
in
favor
also
of
selling
pound
houses
or
condominiums
rather
than
rental
units,
but
I
would
also
say
that
to
keep
this
affordable
housing
people
who,
when
they
buy
a
condo
you're
gonna,
have
to
sign
a
covenant
to
say
that
they
will
not
immediately
go
into
market
rate.
E
You
know
whatever
the
traffic
will
bear
they're
going
to
have
to
say
that
they're
limiting
their
resale
number
to
a
certain
percentage
to
keep
the
unit
affordable.
We
don't
want
them
affordable,
just
for
the
first
owner.
You
know
in
case
that
owner
moves
to
chicago
or
something
we
want
it
to
be
affordable
for
the
second
owner
and
the
third
owner
and
so
forth.
So
I
think
they
will
get
it.
As
I'll
said.
E
A
small
stake
when
they
sell
the
unit,
but
they
would
not
get
the
same
stake
as
if
they
could
just
take
off
any
limit,
and
you
know
assault
or
whatever
the
traffic
would
bear.
But
you
know
I
I
and
I
I'd
like
to
just
say
a
word
to
councilman
max
mcnamee.
I
believe
in
the
free
enterprise
system
too,
but
I
think
there
are
certain
things
that
you
have
to
carve
out
an
exception
for
you
know,
and
I
do
believe
that
we
should
encourage
developers
and
wherever
we
can
make
the
process
streamlined.
E
You
know
we
don't
want
to
tie
up
their
money
forever,
their
the
work
of
their
unit,
their
company
forever
I'd
like
to
see
everything
as
streamlined
as
possible
too.
But
as
again
as
I
say,
I
think
we
need
to
make
an
exception,
an
exception
to
the
normal
free
enterprise
system
for
housing
in
thousand
oaks.
So
I'm
100
for
the
project
and-
and
I
too
would
favor
condos
ownership
of
the
new
housing
rather
than
arrangement.
E
B
B
Mr
mcnamee,
if
you
would
wait
your
turn,
please,
I
will
go
to
mr
drew
at
powers
first
and
then
to
you,
but
I
wanted
to
men.
Well,
go
ahead.
There
was
something
else
I
wanted
to
say,
but
go
ahead.
Mr
powers.
O
It's
okay
mayor.
I
was
going
to
make
some
some
sort
of
final
comments
just
to
make
sure
there
was
clarity,
so
councilmember
magna
can
go
ahead.
Q
B
Q
Mr
mcnamee,
that's
why
I
kind
of
interrupted
because
he
usually
wraps
everything
up
for
us
just
to
come
back
to
the
concept
that
people
is
gonna,
be
a
temporary
living
situation
where
they
actually
own,
and
then
they
move
out.
I
don't
hear
of
anything
that
requires
that
you're
there
for
a
five
year
ten
year
process,
and
then
you
have
to
move
out
and
buy
a
house
elsewhere
or
find
any
other
living
arrangement.
Q
So
that's
again
not
built
into
or
baked
into
this
plan
there
that
they
buy
a
house
and
they'll
move
out
after
a
certain
period
of
time
after
they
sell
the
unit
to
someone
else
at
a
low
income
level.
Q
Again,
this
is
most
likely
to
be
permanent
housing
for
30
years
for
many
of
the
people
that
move
in
there.
In
my
opinion,
second
I've
always
been
very
respectful
and
courteous
and
and
appreciate.
My
other
council
members
comments
disparaging
comments
that
I've
heard
here.
Q
Regarding
my
soapbox,
I
would
ask
that
the
courtesy
be
extended
to
me,
as
well
as
what
I've
extended
to
you,
and
I
highly
respect
all
of
your
opinions,
and
we
may
disagree
on
points
of
view,
but
I
think
you're,
all
wonderful
people
and
again
the
disparaging
comments
are
not
appreciated.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mcnamee.
No,
we
we
want
to
be
respectful,
and
that
includes
staff
as
well
calling
staff
inefficient
or
someone
else
lazy
policy
makers
is
not
helpful,
but
mr
drew
powers
I
I
do.
I
do
have
some
comments
to
make.
If,
if
we
leave
it
up
to
the
developers,
we
will
not
ever
have
affordable
housing,
whether
that
is
apartments
or
whether
it
is
single-family
homes.
Very
few
developers
lose
their
shirts.
B
A
thousand
oaks
has
been
a
very
lucrative
location
for
most
developers
and
they
are
in
the
industry
because
it
is
lucrative
and
the
only
way
that
we
can
actually
provide
housing
where
families
can
build.
Equity
is
if
we
purchase
land
or
work
with
a
non-profit
and
therefore
we
can
save
a
ton
of
money
and
make
the
the
homes
affordable.
B
So
I
believe
that,
in
terms
of
the
details
as
to
how
long
does
someone
get
to
stay
in
the
house
is
something
that
obviously
staff
will
have
to
work
with,
whoever
will
be
chosen
to
be
our
provider
or
our
builder
habitat
for
humanity.
For
example,
has
a
house
here
on
hillcrest
drive
and
a
family
of
four
moved
in
they?
B
They
didn't
stay
all
that
long
in
that
house.
If
I
remember
correctly,
if
memory
serves
me
well,
it
is,
I
think,
in
its
second
or
third
ownership
now,
and
this
was
built
about
20
years
ago,
so
people
earn
money,
people
who
everybody
is
trying
to
save
money
for
a
house
whether
they're
living
with
two
other
families
in
an
apartment
or
if
it's.
B
If
it's
someone
who
is
renting
elsewhere,
everybody
is
trying
to
save
money
to
make
the
american
dream
come
true,
and
I
think
that
if
we
are
able
to
do
that
to
accommodate
that,
it
is
a
good
thing
and
without
needing
to
make
a
profit
on
it,
and
I
think
that
is
what
is
important.
B
O
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
and
I
appreciate
the
good,
healthy
discussion
on
the
part
of
the
city
council.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
couple
of
thoughts,
one
just
for
the
council
to
contemplate.
For
a
moment,
we've
heard
very
clearly
on
the
preference
for
an
ownership
structure
on
the
site.
I
also
want
to
know
whether
you
would
like
to
provide
an
opportunity
or
alternate
to
consider
hybrid.
O
That
will
obviously
affect
the
type
of
proposers
that
would
come
in.
If
you
want
a
hybrid
would
mean
a
combination
of
rental
and
ownership,
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
would
have
to
go
in
any
particular
direction
there,
but
it
would
certainly
widen
the
lens
type
proposer,
but
that's
obviously
up
to
the
pleasure
of
the
council,
but
we
wanted
to
get
that.
O
We
wanted
to
get
that
feedback
now
just
quickly
to
address
timing
issues,
but
I
think
it's
it's.
It's
always
a
relevant
point.
Government
and
basically
any
enterprise,
private
or
public
can
always
be
more
efficient
and
we're
striving
to
do
that.
Every
single
day
we
have
a
tremendous
team
in
our
public
works
department
and
our
planning
and
community
development
department,
a
team
that
is
dealing
with
record
volumes
and
some
tremendous
staffing
challenges
at
the
moment,
as
most
industries
are,
but
just
as
a
point
of
reference
for
the
community
and
for
the
council.
O
O
The
299
thousand
oaks
boulevard
project
was
approved
by
the
city
council
in
september
of
2018
and
is
now
well
under
construction
just
three
years
later.
So
there's
always
anecdotes
and
portions
there's
always
opportunities
to
be
more
efficient,
more
effective.
But
those
are
just
two
recent
examples.
We
haven't
had
a
lot
of
construction
recently,
but
two
recent
examples
that
fall
right
into
that
three-year
window
so
with.
If
the
council
has
any
additional
feedback,
we
welcome
it
in
the
rfp.
B
B
B
We
want
to
be
forward-thinking
and
forward-looking
in
terms
of
becoming
more
sustainable,
so,
as
was
mentioned
with
one
particular
project-
vista
verdi,
if
certainly
if
that
can
be
replicated
here
in
thousand
oaks,
that
would
be
great
without
breaking
the
bank,
and
so
that
should
definitely
be
considered.
So
I
want
to
make
that
also
one
of
the
focal
points
and-
and
with
that
I
know
you
mentioned
hybrid,
but
I
see
a
couple
of
hands
up
still
one
is
mr
jones
and
then
the
other
or
mr
adam.
M
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
I
would
like
to
finish
up
with
my
motion,
but
I
would
just
say
that,
as
it's
been
said
already
and
as
I
said
myself,
any
organizations
whether
it's
private
or
public,
wants
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible,
and
certainly
we
want
to
foster
an
environment
here
in
the
city
where
we
welcome
building,
we
welcome
residential.
We
welcome
housing
and
I
know
that's
on
the
minds
of
our
community
development
department
every
day,
but
that's
kind
of
a
long
term.
Ongoing
battle.
M
You
know
we
need
housing.
Now
we
need
housing
now
and
and
developers
can
provide
some
of
the
housing
we're
looking
for
when
it
comes
to
rental
because
we
can
require,
or
they
can
volunteer
to
add,
affordable
housing
in
in
a
rental
situation-
kmart,
for
example,
50
units
of
affordable
rental
housing
nazarbakian.
M
I
think
it
was
15
or
20.,
as
mr
powers
mentioned,
299's
got
about
15.,
so
that's
good,
that's
good,
but
when
it
comes
to
developers
offering
affordable
housing
for
sale,
that's
a
whole
another
ball
game,
because
the
cost
of
land
is
so
expensive
and
all
the
answers
lay
across
and
go
with
it.
I
I
I
it's
almost
that
you
know
if
we
want
to
give
people
a
chance
to
own
in
the
city
we
have
to
step
in
and
that's
what
we
have
the
opportunity
to
to
do
this
evening
in
a
small
way.
M
I
mean
we're
talking,
maybe
40,
to
60
units
on
this
piece
of
property,
but
I
think
it
it's
a
good
thing
for
us
to
do,
and
I
I
think
it
will
give
some
people
some
real
opportunities,
and
I
I
I
the
hybrid
approach.
I
don't
know
it
doesn't
really
appeal
to
me
to
be
honest
with
you.
We
have
a
lot
of
rental
going
up
and
we're
looking
at
some
more
down
the
road,
but
this
is
a
unique
opportunity
to
get
some
for
sale
properties
to
build
equity
for
people.
M
M
So
I
would
like
to
proceed
with
my
motion,
which
was
to
ask
staff
to
pursue
the
for
sale
option
here
with
an
rfp,
slash
q
and
look
particularly
at
the
land
trust
opportunity.
M
I
think
this
could
be
actually
a
model
for
land
trusts
all
across
the
state,
really,
if
we
do
it
right
and
that's
kind
of
exciting
in
itself.
Here's
thousand
oaks
setting
the
pace
again,
and
I
I
I
think
is
five
and
six
both
in
the
same
vein.
B
Five
five
deals
with
the
giving
staff
direction
regarding
the
desired
future
of
the
site,
and
it
sounds
that
it
will
be
for
sale
and
then
number.
M
Particularly
with
in
in
a
land
trust
format
and
also
authorize
the
rfp
slash
q.
B
B
Any
new
development
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
after
we
approve
our
climate
action
plan,
we'll
have
to
comply
with
our
sustainability
plan.
Yes,.
O
To
the
extent
that
there
are
firm
policies-
and
in
that
plan
you
know
the
city
attorney
tracy
newton
can
can
weigh
in
on
that,
but
obviously
to
the
to
the
extent
that
there
are
foreign
policies
and
not
just
recommendations,
then
any
development
would
have
to
adhere
to
it.
Just
like
it
would
public
or
private
development.
M
I
think
it's
premature,
we
don't
we
don't
even
have
that
plan
developed.
Yet
really
I
I
get
what
everybody's
saying
about
the
climate
and
yeah
it's
important,
but
for
now
I
think
I'd
just
like
my
motion
to
be
as
it
is.
J
What
what
I
can
say
is
that
again
you
know
we
we're
working
on
the
climate
action
plan
and
the
general
plan
policies
and
principles.
J
You
know
right
now
we
do
have
title
25,
that's
already
been,
you
know,
incorporated
and
has
already
been
applied
to
existing
building,
but
we
can
also,
as
part
of
the
rfp
rfq
process
we
can
include.
You
know
when
we're
asking
for
proposers
to
present
project
opportunities.
We
can
include
a
factor
or
some
type
of
criteria
where
we're
factoring
any
type
of
sustainability,
components
that
are
put
into
the
project
as
one
of
the
factors
that
we
look
at
as
part
of
our
evaluation.
B
E
B
And
the
number
will
be
determined
after
the
rfp
rfq
to
see
how
many
units
we
can
fit
on
there,
the
the
more
the
merrier
all
right.
So
we
have
a
motion-
and
that
includes
everything
from
for
sale
to
the
rfq
rfp
authorization
to
also
giving
what
is
it
considering
the
sustainability,
and
I
will
call
for
a
vote
council.
M
Q
D
B
B
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
wanted
to
also
show
mr
councilmember
mcnamee.
So
when
you
break
up
votes
like
that,
you
give
council
members
individual
options
to
vote
yes
or
no,
rather
than
to
vote
on
the
entire
package.
So
I
think
that
is
a
good
way
of
doing
things
as
well
all
right!
So
congratulations
to
everyone.
This
is
a
historic
vote
as
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money.
B
However,
it
is
for
a
very
good
cause,
namely
making
affordable
or
housing
affordable
for
our
hard-working
families
in
thousand
oaks,
and
I
look
forward
to
the
final
project.
Thank
you
so
much
to
staff
for
working
on
this
since
the
beginning
of
the
year
and
you
you
really
worked
on
this,
and
I
am
very
grateful
for
that.
Thank
you
all
right
and
with
that
we
are
going
to
item
10
c,
which
is
our
community
grants
program,
and
I
believe
this
will
be
presented
by
our
interim
library,
director,
melissa,
hurtado.
T
T
Little
difficulties
here
we
go
at
the
goal-setting
session
earlier
this
year,
the
city
council
listed
post-pandemic
community
recovery
through
various
strategic
one-time
investments
as
a
priority.
During
this
year's
budget
process,
city
council
moved
this
priority
forward
by
generously
approving
one
million
dollars
to
be
used
for
community
grants.
These
are
not
cares,
act
funds
but
rather
discretionary
general
fund
monies.
T
T
There
is
no
question
that
the
non-profit
social
services,
agencies
and
thousand
oaks
stepped
up
during
this
pandemic.
They
provided
food
clothing,
medical
services,
coveted
supplies
and
helped
folks
financially,
who
struggled
to
pay
rent
fix
their
car
or
pay
utility
bills.
While
they
were
doing
all
this
amazing
work,
their
financial
resources
were
strained
with
the
inability
to
host
traditional
events.
T
In
addition
to
the
one-time
support
mentioned
in
the
previous
slide,
the
city
provides
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
annual
grants
to
social
services
organizations.
Also,
two
of
our
resident
companies
utilize
office
space
at
the
civic
arts,
plaza
paying
only
one
dollar
a
year
in
rent
resident
companies
also
receive
a
35
discount
on
rental.
T
The
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
was
deducted
from
the
intended
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
leaving
six
hundred
and
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
for
social
services
organizations.
The
community
funding
review
committee
will
review
and
make
recommendation
on
grant
funding.
Grant
funds
will
not
be
tied
to
any
specific
program
or
service
and
can
be
used
more
broadly
than
with
previous
grant
programs.
T
T
These
numbers
may
vary,
depending
on
the
number
of
qualified
applicants
received,
300
000
grants
for
the
arts
organizations
would
be
administered
by
to
arts,
while
the
grant
amounts
for
each
organization
have
not
been
determined.
At
this
point,
it
is
anticipated
that,
due
to
their
sizable
operations,
our
three
resident
companies
would
be
granted
an
amount
significantly
larger
than
the
other
organizations.
T
B
T
Certainly,
we
actually
have
this
discussion
at
the
finance
audit
committee
and
after
discussing
the
number,
just
your
number
of
applicants
and
the
basic
need
for
the
social
services
programs
and
then
also
the
number
of
potential
applicants
of
a
need
in
the
arts
organizations
based
on
the
numbers.
This
is
where
we
came
up
with
the
with.
C
T
B
O
Mayor
friday
may,
the
so,
with
the
council's
community
support
fund,
the
finance
audit
committee
contemplated
a
number
of
the
components
that
that
came
forward
to
the
council
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
In
doing
so,
they
looked
at
the
volume
of
recognizing
this
as
a
post,
post-pandemic
recovery
package
looked
at
the
volume
of
nonprofits
and
the
numbers
of
those
and
the
numbers
of
of
arts
organizations
and
the
support
that
have
been
provided
throughout
and
made
a
recommendation.
B
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that.
Let's
hear
from
our
speakers
and
the
first
one
is
natalia
stanieva,
followed
by
michael
christie.
Natalia
staniva
is
the
executive
director
of
new
west
symphony
and
michael
christie
is
the
music
director.
M
Being
said
on
the
finance
audit
committee
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
way
we
considered
it
was
the
fact
that
there's
roughly
28
social
service
agencies
in
town
that
would
be
eligible
for
these
funds
and
the
thought
was
we
wanted
to
be
somewhere
around.
Maybe
25
000
a
piece
for
them.
We
had
a
million
dollars
to
work
with,
and
you
know
we
also
wanted
to
get
the
biggest
possible
impact
we
could
across
the
broad
broad
community,
and
so
that
worked
out
to
roughly
two-thirds
social
service,
one-third
arts.
K
Thank
you
mayor
and
city
council
members,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
miss
hertado
for
for
the
report
before
the
pandemic.
I
used
to
say
that
I
was
a
ceo
of
the
new
west
symphony.
I
represented
the
largest
performing
arts
organization
in
thousand
oaks.
Besides
steel
arts,
I
feel
a
certain
responsibility
to
share
with
you
some
data
that
is
relevant
to
the
community
grants
discussion
tonight.
K
Last
month,
ventura
county
arts,
council
and
an
arts
consultant
conducted
the
survey
to
assess
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
on
our
local
arts
organizations.
Almost
55
of
31
vc
arts
organizations
that
responded
to
survey
defined
the
damage
due
to
covet
as
severe,
and
the
economic
impact
is
estimated
to
be
17
million
dollars.
K
K
You
have
supported
us
for
the
last
26
years,
I'd
like
to
thank
jonathan
serrat,
the
new
director
of
cultural
affairs
for
responding
to
our
crisis
and
opening
the
theater
to
film
our
concerts
from
october
2020,
as
well
as
gave
opportunities
for
five
star.
Theatricals
and
pacific
festival
ballet
to
perform.
K
He
provided
guidance
on
film
permits
and
protocols,
and
we
had
the
virtual
season
for
many
musicians.
That
recording
session
in
october
was
the
first
time
they
made
music
together.
We
even
made
spectrum
one
news
when
most
symphony
orchestras
simply
shut
their
doors.
We
carried
on
and
brought
music
to
our
patrons.
As
gary
ward
mentioned.
K
Let's
face
it.
We
all
have
questions
how
to
return
safely
to
the
crowded
venues.
Do
we
sell
every
seat?
Can
we
afford
not
to
sell
every
seat
when
we
send
our
subscription
renewals?
We
public
come
back.
What
is
the
role
of
the
digital
performances
if
we
decide
to
be
socially
distanced
and
cannot
accommodate
everyone?
How
do
we
survive
in
the
next
12
months
while
rebuilding
our
audiences?
K
K
While
we
recognize
that
this
is
a
time
when
there
are
many
worthwhile
causes
asking
for
support,
we
ask
you
to
please
consider
increasing
support
for
the
arts
at
this
critical
time
of
need.
We
can
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
and
your
generous
support
will
help
ensure
that
the
glow
from
that
light
will
illuminate
us
all.
S
Good
evening,
mayor
billa
de
la
pena,
council
members,
my
name
is
michael
christie,
artistic
and
music
director
of
the
new
west
symphony,
and
we
have
called
the
civic
arts
plaza
our
home
for
26
years
and
currently
enjoy
being
your
resident
company
of
the
bank
of
america
performing
arts
center
council
members,
like
you
and
the
services
you
provide
to
our
thousand
oaks
families.
New
west
symphony
was
challenged
but
resolute
over
the
past
17
months
to
comfort
and
inspire
our
fellow
residents
and
patrons.
S
We
shared
six
important
cultures,
their
music
and
traditions
with
our
own
community
and
viewers
in
55
countries
around
the
world,
as
we
embraced
our
community
neighbors
from
generally
underrepresented
sectors
in
the
music
arena.
We
learned
so
much
about
their
life
experiences
and
family
traditions
and
we
embraced
a
goal
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
employing
our
orchestra
along
27
guest
artists,
two-thirds
of
whom
represented
the
bipoc
community.
But
it
is
you
who
has
provided
us
with
a
constant
and
comfortable
home
throughout
this
pandemic.
S
Our
isolation
was
softened
and
made
tolerable,
as
we
created
a
connection
to
music
and
to
those
community
partners
with
whom
we
collaborated
and
to
our
beautiful
theaters,
of
which
we
can
all
be
so
proud
from
our
local
town
of
thousand
oaks.
We
showed
the
world
that
we
can
celebrate
western
musical
traditions
because
of
the
many
cultures
that
influence
and
inspire
western,
classical
music
and
all
the
music
of
the
world.
S
Thank
you
to
the
cultural
affairs
department
and
to
you
for
working
with
us
to
open
the
cavali
theater
safely.
So
we
could
create
these
beautiful
presentations
and
proudly
tell
the
world
that
thousand
oaks
is
the
home
of
creativity
and
ambition,
as
we
now
set
our
sights
on
a
return
to
live
performances.
N
Thank
you
mayor
billet,
appena
and
city
council
members.
My
name
is
dwight
brown.
I'm
the
owner
of
home
helpers
home
care.
My
office
is
located
right
next
door
to
the
beautiful
up
and
coming
299
thousand
oaks
boulevard
development
in
thousand
oaks
as
a
business
owner.
I
believe
that
helping
the
community
can
also
help
to
build
a
business,
so
I'm
a
donor
and
sponsor
to
many
local
non-profits,
including
the
canadian
free
clinic,
the
to
westlake
rotary
clubs.
N
As
you
know,
our
theaters
enjoy
three
robust
resident
companies.
These
companies
employ
many
area
professionals,
including
performing
artists
actors,
dancers
musicians,
designers,
crew
and
staff.
The
theaters
and
the
work
of
the
resident
companies
are
large
and
important
economic
generators.
This
was
shown
in
prior
multiplier
effects,
studies
by
pepperdine
university
students
and,
more
recently
by
the
americans,
for
the
arts
study
conducted
by
the
cultural
affairs
department
three
years
ago.
Those
who
attend
our
theaters
also
purchase
gas.
N
They
eat
at
our
restaurants
and
they
stay
in
hotels
right
here
in
the
city
bringing
dollars
into
our
local
economy.
California,
senate
bill,
628,
california,
creative
workforce
act,
2021
supports
these
statements.
It
says
quote:
the
creative
industries
are
integral
and
necessary
for
the
recovery,
rebuilding
and
healing
of
california
in
the
aftermath
of
the
pandemic,
arts
and
culture
are
essential.
Drivers
of
civic
participation
and
dialogue
and
considerable
research
shows
that
integrating
artists
and
creative
workers
into
recovery
drives
better
outcomes
related
to
critical
concerns,
including
racial
justice,
health,
education,
community
cohesion
and
public
safety.
N
End
quote,
I
would
like
to
add
that
the
most
recent
arts
vibrancy
report
an
annual
report
published
by
the
national
center
for
arts
research.
This
report
defined
the
region
of
thousand
oaks
oxnard
and
ventura
as
an
arts,
vibrant
medium-sized
metropolitan
area,
ranking
number
eight
in
the
nation
out
of
947
metropolitan
areas.
N
N
You
might
have
guessed
that
the
city
of
santa
fe
new
mexico,
ranked
in
first
place
just
think
about
the
opportunity
we
have
right
now
to
nurture
our
amazing
existing
cultural
environment
number
eight
in
the
nation.
If
we
could
increase
government
support
for
the
arts,
we
would
increase
local
tax
revenues
for
our
city.
N
Now
when
it
comes
to
fundraising
and
philanthropy,
I'm
going
to
quote
a
recent
article
on
philanthropy.clunk.com
quote.
Overall
2020
was
a
banner
year
for
charitable,
giving
in
the
united
states
which
rose
471.4
billion.
According
to
estimates
from
the
latest,
giving
usa
report,
that's
a
3.8
percent
increase
over
estimated,
giving
in
2019.
the
quote
continues.
N
Perhaps,
unsurprisingly,
in
a
year
dominated
by
the
pandemic's,
many
effects,
donations
to
human
services
charities,
increased
8.4
percent,
many
groups
charted
a
staggering
increase
in
new
donors.
End
quote:
I
can
assure
you
that
arts
organizations
were
not
that
fortunate.
Our
doors
were
shut,
our
performances
had
to
be
cancelled.
Our
patrons
were
and
still
are,
unsure
of
when
we'll
be
able
to
open
our
doors
for
them
again.
The
donors
we
depend
on
focus
their
money
on
human
service
charities
rather
than
on
the
arts.
N
Q
J
Hey
listen.
I
was
so
moved
listening
to
taba
or
tabitha
the
community
commitment
award.
She
made
some
statements
in
there
that
I
couldn't
even
write
fast
enough,
so
I
think
it's
a
quote,
but
it's
close
to
an
exact
quote
and
she
said
you're
never
alone.
We
have
one
another
to
be
there
for
each
other.
Sometimes
you
give,
and
sometimes
you
help.
Sometimes
you
receive
it
and
I
think
she
just
paraphrased
everybody.
I've
been
listening
to
on
this
topic.
J
I
I
think
it's
so
important
to
thank
the
staff,
the
council,
but
also
all
the
community
groups,
whether
it's
the
arts
or
human
services,
2021,
the
community
grants
and
the
amount
of
665
000
for
social
human
services
and
300
000
for
the
arts
is
going
to
make
a
difference
in
the
canal.
It's
going
to
show
the
rest
of
our
area
that
we
the
rise
and
the
need
of
the
most
basic
necessities
of
life,
shelter,
food,
clothing,
electricity,
access
to
education.
J
This
need
has
not
changed
and
to
keep
the
community
stable.
We've
got
to
maintain
these
pillars.
These
maslow's
needs
of
helping
with
access
to
education,
shelter,
food
life,
health
we've
got
to
maintain
these
and
I'm
confident
that
every
penny
that
the
city
spends
on
these
services
will
be
used
properly.
Thank
you.
G
J
J
As
you
move
forward
with
these
grant
programs,
kenny
kaneho
unido
asked
that
one
additional
goal
citigold
be
taken
into
account
during
the
planning
and
development
process
city
goal,
a
which
focuses
on
credit,
creating
a
more
equitable,
accessible,
safe,
welcoming
and
inclusive
government
and
community.
The
arts
have
always
been
a
wonderful
pathway
to
inclusion
in
our
community.
J
I
want
to
share
our
family's
story.
Both
of
my
boys
have
developmental
disabilities.
They
connect
with
the
world
through
the
arts.
My
oldest
spent
much
of
schooling
in
separate
classrooms.
For
the
majority
of
his
day,
the
exception
was
for
the
arts
starting
in
middle
school.
He
participated
in
choir.
J
J
His
time
participated
in
participating
in
choir,
prepared
him
for
a
lifetime
of
performing.
Thankfully,
our
community
has
two
programs
for
him.
He
performs
with
canelo
theater
for
everyone
through
a
collaboration
between
crpd
therapeutic
recreation
and
young
artist
ensemble.
He
also
performs,
with
always
on
stage
both
of
these
wonderful
organizations,
feature
actors
with
and
without
disabilities.
On
the
same
stage,
our
family
has
seen
how
the
arts
fosters
inclusion.
Everyone
should
have
access
to
the
arts.
J
I
ask
that
you
add
the
city's
equity
and
inclusion
goal
to
the
community
grants
program,
because
ensuring
that
social
service
and
the
arts
are
available
and
accessible
to
everyone
in
our
community
is
a
great
step
toward
making
the
ideals
of
equity
and
inclusion
a
reality
in
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you
for
listening.
G
We
are
so
grateful
that
city
leaders
have
recognized
the
impact
that
the
pandemic
has
had
on
social
services
and
the
arts
and
thousand
ops,
creating
community
grant
programs
to
support
organizations
whose
goals
are
to
take
care
of
our
community
members
and
to
provide
an
art,
rich
culture
in
our
city.
It's
a
great
way
to
address
and
continuing
the
need
for
support
and
to
help
in
the
recovery
from
financial
losses.
G
As
you
move
forward
with
these
grant
programs,
conejo
nido
asked
that
one
additional
city
gold
be
taken
into
consideration
during
the
planning
and
development
process
city
goal,
a
which
focuses
on
creating
a
more
equitable,
accessible,
safe,
welcoming
and
inclusive
government
and
community
vrs
have
always
been
a
wonderful
pathway
to
inclusion
in
our
community.
For
me,
as
a
member
of
a
latino
community,
it's
so
important
to
see
myself
represented
and
teach
my
kids
our
culture
and
traditions
the
day
of
the
concert
of
las
cafeteras
and
thousand
oaks
community
park.
G
I
took
my
kids,
nieces
and
nephews
to
see
the
show
it
was
so
inspiring
for
them
to
see
themselves
being
represented
in
this
community
with
the
beautiful
music
and
dance
performance,
and
also
see
the
racial
diversity
and
joy
in
the
show.
It
is
really
really
nice
to
see
we
are
being
included,
and
I
hope
this
is
just
the
beginning,
just
like
the
cv,
usd
start
to
celebrate
hispanic
heritage
figures
already.
We
are
a
very
important
asset
to
this
community.
G
B
B
I
would
be
very
much
in
favor
of
that,
and
let
me
let
you
know
why
the
arts,
industry
and
you
all
know
this.
The
arts
industry
was
the
last
industry
to
come
out
of
lockdown
arts
and
entertainment,
the
newest
symphony
and
the
ballet,
and
even
five-star
theatricals
three
of
several
non-profit
organizations
in
our
community.
B
They
they
didn't
shut
down,
they
didn't
give
up.
They
tried
to
still
deliver
what
they
do.
It
is
dance
music,
and
that
is
something
that
we
as
humans
need.
In
order
to
connect,
the
ballet
did
virtual
events,
the
newest
symphony,
put
on
an
entire
season.
That
was
a
virtual
season
that
took
you
around
the
world.
B
B
They
they
go
into
the
community
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
you
can
compare
necessarily
the
budget
of
a
non-profit,
large
nonprofit
organization,
to
a
social
service
program
during
the
entire
last
year.
I
volunteered
for
various
social
service
programs
in
in
town,
but
I
also
had
the
luxury
of
or
the
opportunity
I
should
say
to
also
be
part
of
the
arts,
and
I
think
mr
brown
put
it
very
eloquently.
B
He
wore
two
hats
or
is
wearing
two
hats
he's
on
the
board
of
senior
concerns
and
on
the
board
of
the
new
west
symphony,
and
these
two
groups,
social
services
and
the
arts
fulfill
a
very
critical
need
in
our
community.
Did
you
know
that
conejo
valley,
unified
school
district
is
now
has
now
hired
a
or
actually
created
a
new
position?
A
district-wide
coordinator
for
the
visual
and
performing
arts,
because
they're
getting
serious
about
offering
much-needed
arts
education
k
through
12.
B
B
M
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
clarity
about
one
thing
that
I
noticed
from
some
of
the
emails
I
received.
Mr
powers
can
elaborate
on
that.
This
is
not
cares,
act
money.
This
is
not
corona
virus
aid
relief
and
economic
security.
That's
what
care
stands
for.
I
didn't
know
that
it's
not
federal
dollars.
O
These
are
general
fund
discretionary
dollars
that
the
city
council
allocated
towards
community
recovery
as
part
of
the
budget
engine.
M
Right
these
are
money
out.
This
is
money
out
of
the
general
fund
that
again,
with
careful
stewardship
and
and
management
we've
been
we
designated
to
return
to
the
community.
So
I
just
wanted
that
to
be
clear,
because
some
of
the
emails
I
received
seemed
to
think
that
this
was
federal
dollars.
It
is
not.
It
is
not
federal
dollars
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
mayor's
impassioned
plea.
M
Your
love
of
the
arts
is
obvious.
Typically,
mayors
like
to
reserve
their
pleas
for
the
end
of
the
session,
but
he
shared
with
us
in
the
beginning.
So
that's
fine
and
yeah.
It's
like
you,
said
claudia,
there's,
never
enough
money
and
everybody's
deserving.
We
got
28
non-profits
that
can
use
the
money
just
as
much
as
they
are.
So
that's
why
the
finance
audit
committee
bob-
and
I
came
up
with
this
split,
but
you
know
I
mean
we
could
talk
about
that.
B
J
Q
Madam
mayor,
thank
you,
mr
englander.
I
I
would
concur
with
you,
madam
mayor,
that
both
of
these
programs,
the
social
services
versus
the
arts,
are
much
needed
very
much
in
demand.
They
do
good
work
out
there
in
our
community
and
benefit
many.
I
am
siding
with
your
argument
that
the
arts
are
the
ones
the
first
that
are
cut
out
of
the
school
programs
and
wind
up
suffering
the
most
when
they
offer
the
benefits
that
students
need.
The
community
needs
to
facilitate
learning
and
development.
Q
I
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
appreciate
that
the
as
a
council
member
adam
mentioned
on
the
committee,
we
looked
at
the
the
numbers
of
of
recipients
on
either
side,
and
we
tried
to
get
to
a
a
point
where
it
seemed
that
everybody
was
getting
an
equal
share
of
the
of
the
money.
For
me.
I
I
think
the
arts
in
our
area,
yeah
they
do
a
great
job.
They
work
well
with
the
schools
they're
deserving
of
some
of
this
money
by
nobody's
stretch
and
whether
we
give
it
a
50,
50
split
or
give
more
to
social
services
does
not
reflect
at
all
on
the
appreciation
of
the
arts.
I
In
my
mind,
as
I
look
at
where
the
monies
go,
both
organizations
both
sides
of
these
organizations
leverage,
whatever
money
we
give
by
their
use
of
volunteers
and
they
take
very
small
amounts
of
money
and
make
it
work
miracles
within
our
town,
both
in
terms
of
the
arts
and
in
terms
of
social
services.
I
The
way
I
look
at
in
the
way
I
I
think
that
perhaps
we
need
to
stay
with
this
30-70
split
is
that
you
know
the
maslow's
theory
of
the
maslow's
theory
of
hierarchy
of
needs.
There
are
people
in
our
town
who
are
hurting.
I
They
need
food,
they
need
to
pay
the
rent
those
are
needs.
I
think
that
are
need
to
be
addressed
at
a
higher
rate
than
say
the
arts,
which
are,
albeit
they
for
arts,
provide
a
lot
to
our
community.
But
when
someone
can't
keep
a
roof
on
their
on
their
head
that
to
me
trumps
that
that
50-50
split,
that's
just
the
way
I
look
at
it.
B
Thank
you
account
mayor
pratam
engler.
Yes,
there
are
musicians
that
are
trying
to
keep
a
roof
over
their
head.
The
the
arts,
the
people
employed
in
the
art
industry
were,
as
I
said,
the
last
ones
to
come
out
of
the
lockdown.
B
B
Everybody
is,
was
hurting
and
still
is
hurting
in
this
pandemic,
and
that
includes
the
essential
workers
that
includes
the
musicians
where
we're,
basically
all
in
the
same
boat,
and
I
think
what
the
our
resident
companies
are
saying
or
trying
to
say
is
that
they
don't
provide
necessarily
the
food
edible
food
to
our
community,
but
they
provide
they
nurture
our
collective
soul,
especially
in
this
pandemic.
B
B
E
You
know
this
seems
like
such
a
strange
choice.
These
two
things
are:
there's
no
congress
they're
incongruous
to
me.
Why
would
you
be
choosing
between
social
needs
of
the
community
and
the
arts?
I
mean
I
I
I
I
think
it's
such
a
strange
choice
and
do
I
understand
from
reading
the
two
recommendations
that
it
says,
authorized
city
manager
in
recommending
recommendation
number
one,
or
does
he
need
to
design
and
implement
a
one-time
social
services
grant
program
in
the
amount
of
665
000
which
would
go
to
all
these
different
social
services?
E
I
understand
it
and
this
number
two
says:
approve
expenditure
of
available
funds
and
300
000
for
po
arts,
distribution
grants
etc.
Does
this
mean
they're
coming
from
two
different
pots
of
money.
B
No
they're
coming
from
the
same
they're
coming
from
the
same,
but
I
am
advocating
for
at
least
at
least
a
50-50
split,
because,
while
other
industries
have
been
able
to
open
up
sooner,
the
arts
industry
has
not,
and
they
still
really
can't.
We
still
cannot
fill
up
the
theater
to
full
capacity.
T
Council
member
jones,
if
I
may
jump
in
the
300
000
to
to
arts,
the
reason
had
to
be
phrased.
That
way
is
because
the
we,
the
city,
would
essentially
cut
a
check
to
the
to
arts
for
300
thousand
dollars
and
they
would
implement
the
program.
The
665
000
program
would
be
implemented
by
the
city
with
the
review
of
the
community
funding
review
committee,
and
so
the
checks
wouldn't
be
cut.
Just
yet
we'd
go
to
the
grant
program,
but
the
300
000.
T
T
Councilmember
jones,
you
don't
have
to
choose
between
the
two
recommendations.
The
recommendation
is
to
approve
both
of
them.
It's
just
the.
What
comes
with
america
is
disgusting
is
just
the
the
split,
so
we
had
essentially
a
million
dollars,
and
it's
the
split
of
how
those
funds
would
be
allocated.
O
So
councilmember
jones,
if
I
may,
that
was
what
this,
what
you,
as
the
city
council,
approved
in
june
as
part
of
this
one-time
community
investment
fund.
So
this
is
just
an
above
and
beyond
extra
benefit
that
you're
providing
to
both
non-profits
and
arts
organizations.
So
this
is
just
taking
discretionary
general
fund
dollars
that
were
available
based
on
our
financial
performance.
Last
year
and
you're
doing
this
special
allocation,
it
happens
to
be
just
to
to
arts
and
non-profit
groups.
T
T
B
Yes,
so,
mr
jones,
what
I
was
suggesting
is
a
50
50
split,
so
it
would
be
about
half
a
million
for
social
services
and
nearly
half
a
million
for
the
arts
distribution.
That
was.
E
C
C
Part
of
that
is
because,
despite
clovid,
we
were
still
able
to
have.
You
know
a
good
year
last
year
financially
and
with
our
long-standing
financial
strength
and
leadership
from
city,
council
and
management.
You
know
we
are
very
strong,
financially
as
a
city
throughout
the
state,
one
of
the
top
rated
cities
in
the
entire
state,
so
that
million
was
developed
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
C
That
said,
if
council
did
want
to
add
more
funding,
that
certainly
could
be
included,
but
we
would
have
to
come
back
to
city
council
at
a
different
date
to
add
additional
budget
appropriation,
because
we
don't
have
that
budgeted.
So
we'd
have
to
come
back
at
a
later
date
in
order
to
add
additional
budget,
if
council
so
choose
to
do
that.
E
But
would
you
entertain
a
motion
to
do
that?
Here's
what
I'd
like
to
do.
I
don't
want
to
be
difficult,
but
I'd
like
to
raise
the
300
000,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
it
away
from
social
programs
and
like
like
to
move
that
we
raise
the
money
for
the
arts
from
300
000
to
500
000
and
we
leave
the
665
000
alone
for
them
and
whatever
we
need
to
do
technically.
To
accomplish
that.
I
would
that's
part
of
my
motion.
Thank
you.
M
B
J
Thank
you
so
again,
as
as
miss
boscarino
indicated,
it
hasn't
been
budgeted.
What
we
can
do
is
you
can
ask
that
staff
bring
back
an
additional
item
at
a
future
city
council
meeting
to
adjust
the
budget
to
add
200
000
more
dollars?
That's
certainly
an
option
that
you
can
do
tonight,
but
to
actually
approve
it
tonight.
It's
not
been
agendized
nor
budgeted.
E
Okay,
I
would
agree
with
our
city
attorney
and
that's
my
motion.
O
Just
to
be
clear,
as
city
attorney
mentioned
from
an
administrative
standpoint,
we
can
approve
where
we
are
tonight,
if
the
council
wishes
and
then
with
an
additional
direction,
to
bring
back
an
additional
budget
allocation
to
the
city
council.
That
would
would
augment
that
additional
funding
for
the
arts
and
go
into
that
pot
for
administration
for
the
arts.
So
the
reason
I
mentioned,
that
is,
that
will
speed
the
opportunity
for
us
to
begin
administering
the
program
rather
than
waiting
on
the
entirety
of
it.
M
Yeah,
thank
you
well
number
one.
We
just
approved
eight
million
to
buy
some
land
number
two.
We
just
approved
another
two
million
to
fix
some
streets.
I
mean
generosity
has
its
limits.
I
thought
a
million
dollars
was
pretty
generous.
M
What
I
was
thinking-
and
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
claudia
with
50
50
split.
However,
if
we
do
that,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers,
the
social
service
agencies
go
down
from
665
000
to
482
000,
they
lose
183
000.
If
you
divide
that
by
the
28
agencies,
that's
about
6
500,
a
piece
it's
about.
25
percent
lost
from
what
the
finance
audit
committee
recommended.
M
Well
before
the
motion
was
made,
I
was
going
to
suggest
okay,
so
maybe
we
meet
in
the
middle
the
way
we
have
it.
Now
it's
about
70,
30.,
you're,
suggesting
50
50.,
you
know.
Does
anybody
think
a
60
40
split
sounds
about
right.
B
And
that
is
mr
jones's
motion
to
approve
and
then
come
back
with
additional
allocation
for
the
arts
next
month.
I
believe
it
would
be
so
we,
so
we
would
need
to
vote
on
that
first.
Mr
adam.
M
B
M
M
If
I
we
voting
to
allocate,
despite
what
the
finance
audit
committee
recommends,
you're
voting
to
override
the
committee
and
and
override
the
our
finance
department
and,
in
essence,
don't
have
more
money
than
what
we've
recommended
and
we're
voting
on
that
right
now,.
B
Yeah
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Yes
are.
E
Emotion,
may
I
clarify
my
motion
exactly
and
councilman
adam.
I
didn't
mean
to
be
that
dramatic.
I
mean
we've
been
very
prudent
here
in
the
city
and
because
of
the
good
work
of
our
city
treasurer
and
our
and
our
city
manager
and
our
city
councils
and
all
those
that
went
before
us
we're
in
good
financial
shape.
I
just
heard
the
city
treasurer
or
economics
officer,
whatever
her
title
is
say,
we're
powerful.
Our
our
financial
position
he's
she
said
is
powerful.
E
Well,
if
we're
powerful,
I
think
we
can
afford
another
200
000
for
the
arts,
so
my
motion
to
make
it
very
clear,
is
I'm
moving
the
recommended
action
as
put
forward
by
the
committee
that
you
and
councilman
engler
are
on
and,
and
the
other
part
of
the
motion
is
that
we
come
back
at
the
earliest
convenient
time
and
add
to
the
arts
from
make
it
200
000
more
that's
my
motion.
B
Thank
you,
mr
jones,
and
just
to
clarify
we're
not
overriding
anyone.
We
have
committees
that
make
recommendations
to
the
full
council
and
just
because
two
council
members
recommend
something
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
go
along
with
that.
Most
of
the
time
we
do,
and
I
respect
every
my
colleagues
opinions
very
very
much,
but
I
think
in
this
case
we're
missing
an
opportunity
to
actually
help
the
our
own
economy
and
help
other
employees.
B
Artists,
keep
a
roof
over
their
head
and
also
help
our
organizations
to
continue
to
educate
the
children
of
title
one
schools
and
giving
the
music
lessons,
and
I
think
that
is
very
important.
As
I
said,
the
arts
are
providing
food
for
the
soul,
nurture
for
the
soul
and,
while
as
social
service
organizations
with
their
volunteers,
give
us
give
the
community
physical
food.
So
we
mean
I
mean
no
disrespect,
mr
adam,
by
making
a
different
recommendation.
B
It
is
our
prerogative
as
a
council
to
to
disagree
with
some
recommendations
that
are
made.
It
doesn't
mean
that
I
am
trying
to
be
disrespectful
at
all,
I'm
just
letting
you
know
what
my
position
is,
and
my
opinion
is,
and
that
really
is
all
so.
The
motion
is
by
council
member
jones.
M
If
I
may,
I,
I
appreciate
your
opinion
and
your
position,
but
I
don't
have
to
be
reminded
about
how
important
the
arts
are.
I'm
an
original
founding
member
of
the
alliance
for
the
arts,
yes-
and
I
made
very
substantial
contribution
to
the
arts
and
I've
supported
the
arts
for
years.
M
For
doing
it,
let
that
be
let
that
be
known.
Okay,
however,
your.
M
Anyway,
so
I
understand
the
importance
of
the
arts.
Believe
me,
I
I
I
don't
know
what
word
you
want
to
use
if
you
want
to,
if
you
don't
like.
C
M
Word
override
the
recommendation
from
the
finance
audit
committee.
What
what
word
you
want
to
use?
Disagree?
Yeah.
I
guess
it's
a
matter
of
semantics,
but
I
presume
that
this
motion
that
mr
jones
made
when
it
comes
back
will
have
a
chance
to
they
basically
vote
on
it.
I
mean
we're
not
voting
right
at
the
moment
to
supply
this
extra
money.
Is
that
correct?
E
I'm
also
adding
another
part
to
the
motion
that
staff
come
back
with
an
extra
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
once
that
we've
gone
through
the
format
we
need
to
and
that
that
200
000
will
be
available
to
the
arts.
I
would
also
like
to
add-
and
I
didn't
mean
for
this-
to
become
controversial.
E
My
wife
and
I
are
patrons
of
the
arts.
We
belong
to
lachma
and
the
dion
museum
and
the
legion
of
merit,
museum
and-
and
we
can
contribute
to
the
arts
too.
So
I
think
we're
all
in
favor
of
the
arts
here
and
I
am
actually
moving
the
motion
before
us
just
as
written
with
one
more
proviso,
and
that
is
we
come
back
with
another
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
arts.
O
Thanks,
madam
mayor,
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
everyone
that
we
will
bring
back
as
we
do
with
any
recommendation,
we'll
bring
back
a
the
budget
allocation
for
it
and
determine
where
those
funds
exactly
will
will
come
from.
So
that
will
come
back
to
council
as
a
distinct
item
to
act
on.
M
B
M
Since
I
had
the
most
questions
about
this
and
since
I
sat
on
the
financing
audit
committee
and
I
felt
that
we
very
very
carefully
considered
what
we're
proposing
to
you
tonight,
you
know
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion,
because
I
can't
within
me
vote
against
the
arts
and
that's
what
I'm
being
asked
to
do.
If
I
don't
support
the
motion
and
as
important
as
the
arts
has
been
to
me
and
to
my
family
and
to
and
to
the
community
of
the
last
25
plus
years,
I'm
not
going
to
be
put
in
that
position.
M
You
know
I
get
what
everybody's
saying
and
all
the
testimony
about
how
important
the
arts
are.
Believe
me.
M
I
I
just
would
say
you
know,
generosity
has
its
limits
and
we
are
in
a
very
fortunate
position
right
now
to
be
able
to
be
generous,
and
so
with
that
mind
I
I
I
will
support
the
motion.
B
Thank
you,
mr
adam.
This
is
a
actually.
We
are
in
a
wonderful
position
to
be
able
to
be
more
generous
and
there
is
no
better
time
to
be
generous
than
now
when
we're
coming
out
of
this
long
dark
tunnel
called
covid.
When
so
many
people
have
suffered-
and
I
don't
I
know
it's
not
gonna
break
the
bank.
If
we
allocate
another
two
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
whatever
it
is
to
the
art,
so
they
can
continue
to
deliver
what
they
what
they
do.
So
I'm
glad
that
the
social
services
will
retain
all
that
money.
B
Social
service
is
super
important,
but
I
think
the
motion
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
So
thank
you
and
if,
oh,
mr
mcnamee,
your
high
hand
is
up
too.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
it's
been
quite
entertaining
listening
to
the
discussion
going
back
and
forth.
Ms
boscarino
has
again
the
budget
that
we
approved
in
june
allocated
a
million
dollars.
I
am
a
firm
fiscal
responsible
elected
and
I
really
think
we
should
stick
to
that
million
dollar
total
to
pull
it
from
somewhere
else
means
other
services
will
not
be
allocated.
Q
I
agree
that
it's
kind
of
difficult
to
look
between
social
services
and
the
arts,
because
both
of
them
are
very
vital
and
very
important
in
our
community,
and
that's
why
again,
I
I
do
not
want
to
vote
for
this.
The
way
it
stands
with
c1
and
c2,
with
the
potential
of
coming
out
and
spending
another
200
000
in
discussion
that
may
get
turned
down
or
it
may
get
approved
in
both
cases.
Q
B
Okay,
we
have
a
50-50
split
proposal
versus
the
motion
by
mr
jones,
mr
mcnamee.
Would
that
be
a
subsequent
motion.
Q
B
Have
one
on
the
floor,
but
you
can
make
a
subsequent
motion,
mr
jones.
What
mr
mcnamee
is
proposing
is
a
50-50
split,
because
there's
no
guarantee
that
it
that
the
200
000
would
be
approved.
Should
it
come
back
before
the
council,
so
would
you
be
amenable
to
a
50,
50
split.
E
No,
no,
I
I
thought
I
made
that
clear.
I
I
realized
we've
been
debating
this
a
long
time.
I
don't
want
to
take
money
away
from
social
services.
B
Okay,
mr
adam,
mr
engler.
C
Madam
mayor,
just
for
clarification,
we
are
voting
on
the
amendment
amended
motion
by
councilmember
mcnamee.
B
By
mr
england,
I'm
sorry
jones,
mr
jones
got
it.
B
E
E
B
Okay,
go
ahead
and
vote.
Please:
council,
councilmember,
adam.
E
I
C
B
B
O
Thanks
so
much
mayor,
belle
de
la
pena,
we
are
scheduled
for
our
next
city
council
meeting
on
the
tuesday,
the
14th
of
september.
Right
now,
working
on
a
number
of
items
will
be
considered
for
that
evening,
including
consideration
of
an
item
regarding
modification
of
the
timber
school
project.
The
daylight
project
council
is
aware
of
along
with
some
small
pre-screen
requests
that
have
come
in
subsequent
this
summer.
That
will
be
brought
forward
to
the
city
council
for
discussion
and
consideration.
J
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
We
have
four
closed
session
matters
tonight.
The
first
two
are
public,
employee
performance
evaluations
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54957b1,
and
that
is
for
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
manager,
and
the
second
two
are
conference
with
labor
negotiators
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54957.6
and
those
are
also
for
the
city
manager
and
the
city
attorney,
and
it
is
unlikely
I
will
have
anything
to
report.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
and
we
will
adjourn
tonight's
meeting
in
memory
of
one
of
our
city's
great
leaders
lawrence
horner.
He
passed
away
july.
14Th
larry
was
an
armed
forces,
veteran
an
accomplished
businessman
and
a
dedicated
thousand
oaks
public
servant.
A
native
of
indianapolis
larry
held
a
bachelor's
and
master's
degree
in
engineering
from
indiana
university.
B
After
serving
in
the
army
during
the
korean
war,
he
met
and
married
betty
thurman
and
moved
to
southern
california,
where
he
worked
in
the
aerospace
and
defense
industry
for
lockheed
lockheed
litton
and
finally,
as
vice
president
of
northrop
corporation
in
newberry
park,
larry
horner
was
first
elected
to
the
thousand
oak
city
council
in
1974
retired,
in
1990
after
16
years
of
exemplary
community
service,
including
four
terms
as
mayor.
He
was
one
of
the
few
council
members
serving
as
mayor
numerous
times.
B
Every
aspect
of
the
community
has
his
touch
on
it
from
the
oaks
mall.
The
ring
of
open
space
traffic
circulation,
housing
needs,
and,
yes,
the
swing
vote
for
the
civic
arts,
plaza
married
for
66
years
larry
and
betty
raised
three
children
and
together
contributed
countless
hours.
Volunteering
in
our
community,
larry,
loved
thousand
oaks
and
all
the
people
that
he
tirelessly
worked
for
larry's
commitment,
leadership
and
passion
for
public
service
is
an
integral
part
of
thousand
oaks
history
and
its
future.