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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - 6/6/23
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Yes,
this
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments
for
closed
session.
Only
speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Poor
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
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Thank
you,
mayor
McNamee.
We
do
have
two
closed
sessions
tonight.
The
first
one
is
conference
with
labor
negotiators
pursuant
to
government
code,
section
54957.6.
It
is
with
the
city
designated
Representatives,
Ingrid
Hardy,
Jenny,
boscarino,
Tim,
Giles,
Cheryl,
Sharon,
Chen
and
Carrie
Madsen
with
the
employee
organizations,
tocia
Toma
SMA
and
the
executive
managers
and
then
the
second
closed
session
is
conference
with
legal
counsel
on
existing
litigation.
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Thank
you
very
much,
I'd
like
to
also
make
a
comment
that
this
is
now
summer
session.
Therefore,
council
members
are
to
dress
and
Casual.
We
do
have
a
fashion
expert
in
the
council
here,
who's
setting
a
higher
Spar
and
standard.
Thank
you,
council,
member
Adam
for
doing
that.
For
us
there
you
go,
you
can
stop
at
the
tie.
You
don't
need
to
take
off
anymore.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
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With
that
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
You
have
three
minutes.
As
city
clerk
has
said,
Laura
Holton
h-o-l-t-a-n
is
first
up
and
behind
Laura
we
have
Drew
cornyn
Drew.
Could
you
come
on
down
and
have
a
seat
behind
her,
so
we
can
call
you
up
right
afterwards.
Laura,
please
proceed.
You
have
three
minutes.
Thank.
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You
good
evening
my
name
is
Laura
Holton
I
live
in
Woodland,
Hills
and
I
am
the
lead
negotiator
for
the
Thousand
Oaks
city
employees,
Association
commonly
known
as
tocio.
We
have
many
of
our
members
here
in
the
audience
today,
we've
been
negotiating
with
the
city
for
months
now
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
we've
made
some
good
progress
and
believe
we
are
steps
away
from
the
finish
line.
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However,
we
are
here
tonight
because
we
are
concerned
about
the
city's
medical
benefits
proposal.
We
surveyed
the
city's
comparator
agencies
identified
in
the
mou,
and
the
city's
proposed
contribution
is
the
13th
lowest
out
of
the
15
agencies
listed
in
the
mou
and
I've.
Provided
you
with
that
survey
as
well
of
the
list
of
Premium
costs
in
Ventura
County
the
Calpers
premium
costs.
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We
appreciate
the
cost
of
living
adjustment
that
the
city
and
tocia
have
already
agreed
upon,
as
well
as
the
one-time
payment
of
600
that
the
city
offered
us
today.
However,
even
that
will
not
restore
tosia
employees
to
their
previous
purchasing
power.
It
is
important
to
our
members
that
the
city
increase
its
medical
contribution,
so
employees
on
family
plans
are
not
losing
their
cost
of
living
adjustment
to
cover
their
medical
premiums.
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All
right,
thank
you.
Greeting
councils,
members,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
Drew
Cronin
I
live
in
the
City
of
Camarillo
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
toshia
Union
president
I
believe
we're
extremely
close
in
finalizing
a
solid
contract
for
the
tocia
members
and
for
the
city
itself,
but
movement
and
medical
coverage
is
slowly
slowed
to
a
stop,
and
for
this
reason
we
tosia
find
ourselves
here
today.
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with
that
said,
I
understand
the
importance
of
running
a
conservative,
Financial
conservative
Financial
practice
when
it
comes
to
excuse
me
maintaining
a
budget
and
from
watching
our
online
all
employee
meetings.
Here
in
the
city,
we
have
been
told
that
the
city
is
in
a
very
good
financial
position,
and
the
proposed
budget
reflects
that
as
well.
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We're
asking
you
to
increase
the
city's
monthly
medical
contribution
for
tosia
employees
to
300
a
month
for
each
year
of
the
contract.
This
would
reduce
the
out-of-pocket
cost
for
tocia
employees
on
family
plans
and
would
make
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
much
more
competitive
in
the
labor
market
and
reviewed
against
those
comparable
cities.
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We
see
we
see
this
as
a
win-win
for
the
city
and
its
employees
alike,
because
we
believe
it
will
improve
employee
recruitment
and
retention,
which
we
believe
we
have
a
major
issue
with
right
now.
We
are
sincerely
grateful
for
the
progress
we
have
made
thus
far
in
negotiations,
and
we
hope
that
you
we
can
ratify
a
deal
with
the
city
as
soon
as
possible.
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You
can
take
a
look
at
the
charts
that
you've
been
receiving.
You
can
see
what
the
other
cities
are
paying,
but
it
still
comes
down
to
every
cola
that
we
get.
The
money
goes
towards
our
medical
premium
and
then
some
so
all
that
money
that
we
get
goes
right
back
to
Medical
premiums,
which
is
forcing
our
members
to
choose
what
they're
paying
for
you
know
they're
having
a
hard
time.
They've
got
to
pay
for
their
homes,
they
got
to
pay
for
their
kids
clothes.
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They
got
to
pay
for
food
with
the
inflation
rates
that
are
going
on
and
the
interest
rates
going
up.
They
need
help
and
that's
why
we're
here
tonight
we
need
the
council's
help.
We
need
you
to
boost
up
that
money.
That's
paid
towards
the
medical
premiums
we're
just
asking
for
300,
like
you,
can
see
from
the
chart.
That's
going
to
bring
us
up
to
about
10th
on
the
chart
the
following
year.
Hopefully
we
can
get
even
higher
than
that.
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First
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
the
progress
we
have
made
during
negotiations,
thus
far
between
tosia
and
the
city.
However,
it
is
essential
to
note
that
we
have
not
yet
reached
a
consensus
regarding
the
city's
contribution
towards
its
medical
premiums.
As
of
now,
we
do
not
have
a
tentative
agreement
to
present
to
our
membership
for
a
ratification
vote.
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One
critical
concern
that
we
cannot
Overlook
is
the
alarming
turnover
rate
among
city
employees
in
2022,
the
turnover
rate
stood
at
nine
percent,
surpassing
not
only
the
state
average,
but
also
exceeding
our
Region's
average
by
more
than
double.
Furthermore,
the
turnover
rate
for
2023
has
reached
over
six
percent.
These
statistics
are
a
clear
indication
that
a
significant
problem
exists
within
our
Workforce.
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The
excessive
turnover
has
placed
tremendous
burden
on
existing
employees.
We
find
ourselves
continuously
training
new
hires,
only
to
see
many
of
them
resign
shortly
after,
moreover,
When
comparing
Thousand
Oaks
to
other
similar
agencies,
we
fall
significantly
behind
in
terms
of
medical
premium
coverage.
This
disparity
has
caused
for
concern,
as
it
affects
the
attractiveness
of
our
agency
as
the
place
of
employment.
It
is
important
to
recognize
that
medical
coverage
is
one
of
the
key
factors
contributing
to
the
high
turnover
rate
we
are
experiencing
during
negotiations.
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The
city's
team
has
informed
us
that
they
have
reached
their
Authority
with
an
increased
medical
contribution
of
175
dollars
per
month.
However,
tosia's
membership
is
requesting
an
increased
contribution
of
three
hundred
dollars
per
month.
We
believe
the
increase
is
necessary
to
address
the
concerns
of
our
members
and
ensure
adequate
medical
coverage
for
our
our
employees.
It
is
crucial
for
us
to
acknowledge
the
consequences
of
our
current
situation
as
a
result
of
the
high
turnover
rate
and
inadequate
benefits.
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I
urge
the
city
council
to
consider
the
impact
of
this
issue
on
our
community
and
its
Workforce
in
the
best
interest
of
both
the
employees
and
residents
to
reach
an
agreement
that
address
the
concerns
of
tosia
by
prioritizing
a
fair
and
reasonable
increase
in
the
city's
contribution
towards
medical
premiums.
We
can
improve
employee
retention
and
ensure
the
provision
of
high
quality
services
that
our
residents
deserve.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
and
I
hope
that
together
we
can
find
a
solution
that
benefits
the
well-being
of
our
employees
and
the
overall
success
of
our
city.
Thank.
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I
would
like
to
invite
Elaine
Hagen
welcome,
come
on
up
with
Conejo
Valley,
open
space
foundations
join
me
at
this
presentation.
Each
year,
Conejo
Open
Space
Foundation
holds
Trails
education
day,
where
nearly
a
thousand
CVUSD
4th
grade
students
participate
experiencing
nature
hikes
to
Wildwood
Canyon,
following
by
three
workshops
focusing
on
park,
ranger
careers,
Trail
safety
and
courtesy
and
Indigenous
birds
and
animals
following
their
outings
students,
are
invited
to
enter
a
letter
writing
contest
to
describe
what
they
have
learned
by
district-wide
grand
prizes.
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I
guess
I,
don't
need
to
go
into
the
details,
because
you
really
did
that.
But
if,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
Trails
education
days,
if
people
aren't
familiar,
they
can
find
a
lot
of
information
at
The
Conejo
at
the
cost
of
dot
org
website
kossoff.org
Advance,
slash,
Trails,
Dash
education,
Dash
days,
you'll
find
videos,
photos
and
lots
of
info.
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Two
retired
teachers
manage
the
contests
and
they
enlisted
a
whole
lot
of
their
friends
to
help
judge
it
tonight,
I'm
happy
to
introduce
you
to
four
of
the
five
wait:
a
minute
one.
Two
three
four
of
the
five
grand
prize
winners
and
I'll:
ask
the
Grand
Prize
winners
to
stand
and
face
the
council
when
I
call
your
name.
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I'm
very
honored
to
present
this
Commendation
tonight
to
an
extraordinary
member
of
our
community
Captain
Jay
Charles
or
Charlie
Plum
31-year
Navy,
veteran
Charlie
flew
combat
missions
over
Vietnam
on
his
75th
Mission,
with
only
five
days
left
before
his
scheduled
return
home.
He
was
shot
down,
tortured
and
imprisoned.
B
He
spent
almost
six
years
as
a
prisoner
of
war
in
North
Vietnam.
During
his
captivity,
he
was
a
source
of
inspiration,
motivation
for
his
fellow
prisoners
and
formed
lifelong
bonds
with
them.
He
returned
home
stronger
than
ever
more
motivated,
encouraging
others
to
use
their
skills.
They
learned
from
family
teachers,
friends
and
mentors
to
face
day-to-day
life
challenges.
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He
is
now
a
Hall
of
Fame
motivational
speaker
talking
to
audiences
about
parallels
between
his
prisoner
of
war
experience
and
the
challenges
of
everyday
life,
Captain,
plum,
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
our
fellow
council
members
myself
as
mayor.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
country
and
your
work
now
motivating
others.
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Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you
councilman
and
thank
you
very
much
audience
pleasure
to
be
here.
My
wife,
Susan
and
I
have
never
been
politicians.
We
vote
at
every
election,
but
I've
got
to
tell
you
how
much
respect
we
have
for
you
who
spend
your
time,
effort
energy
here,
making
decisions
that
affect
the
culture
of
our
community.
It's
really
important
to
us,
and
so
we
certainly
salute
you
for
the
efforts
that
you
have
to
making
this
a
better
community.
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In
fact,
I'd
like
to
call
you
all
parachute
Packers,
let
me
explain
that
several
years
after
I
came
home
from
the
prison
camps
of
Vietnam,
I
was
in
a
restaurant
about
two
tables
over
a
guy
kept
looking
at
me,
I
didn't
recognize
this
Gent.
This
guy
stood
up.
He
walked
over
to
my
table.
He
pointed
at
me
and
he
said:
you're
Captain,
plum,
I
looked
up
and
I
said
yes,
sir
I'm
captain
slum.
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I
said
yes
or
indeeda
did
and
I
must
tell
you.
I've
said
a
lot
of
prayers
of
thanks
for
your
Nimble
fingers,
but
I
had
no
idea.
I'd
ever
had
the
opportunity
of
expressing
my
gratitude
in
person.
He
said
were
all
the
panels.
There
I
said
no
of
the
18
panels.
I
was
supposed
to
have
in
that
parachute
had
only
15
good
ones.
Three
of
the
panels
were
torn,
but
it
wasn't
your
fault.
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It
was
mine,
I,
ejected
from
that
F4
Phantom
jet
at
600
miles
an
hour
close
to
the
ground
that
was
well
outside
the
envelope
of
that
parachute.
You
did
your
job,
I
didn't
do
mine
I
said,
but
let
me
ask
you
a
question:
do
you
do
you
keep
track
of
all
the
parachutes
you
pack?
Do
you
know
of
all
the
lives
you
saved?
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To
the
young
folks
in
the
audience,
there's
a
term
used
about
the
greatest
generation
that
gentleman
you
just
saw
as
part
of
that
greatest
Generation.
They
don't
make
them
like
that
anymore
and
sir.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
this
country.
We
are
where
we
are
today
because
of
you
enjoy
have
a
good
evening.
All.
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This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record,
three
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
pursuant
to
council
standards.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
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We're
also
very
pleased
to
announce
that
for
this
year,
for
the
first
time,
the
service
is
completely
free
to
students
in
grades,
one
through
twelve,
as
well
as
college
students
through
various
Grant
programs
that
we
participate
in.
However,
if
you
don't
meet
that
category,
you
can
still
ride
for
the
nominal
cost
of
four
dollars
round
trip
or
if
you're,
a
senior
or
an
ADA
qualified
individual
you
ride
for
only
a
single
dollar
round
trip
to
and
from
the
beach.
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We
have
plenty
of
storage
on
our
bus
that
we
purchased
specifically
for
this
program
for
your
coolers,
your
chairs
and
even
your
surfboards,
and
it
is
by
far
the
most
convenient
and
cost-effective
way
to
have
some
fun
in
the
sun
and
in
the
sand,
and
so
if
people
would
like
more
information,
including
departure
times,
please
visit
the
Thousand
Oaks
Transit
website
and
that
address
is
to
Transit
all
one
word:
dot.
Org.
Thank
you.
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So
I'm,
the
president
of
our
school's
environmental
club
and
the
problem
that
I've
noticed
has
to
do
with
deep
juice
boxes,
so
the
juice
boxes
distributed
at
our
school,
our
apple
and
Eve,
and
the
juice
box
basically
consists
of
three
parts:
it's
a
juice
box
and
then
the
straws
and
funnily
enough.
It's
not
exactly
the
juice
boxes
that
have
produced
the
most
amount
of
like
litter.
It's
actually
and
it's
not
the
straws
either.
L
It's
the
straw,
wrappers
so
they're,
just
basically
littered
around
campuses
everywhere,
not
only
in
the
hallways,
but
also
in
classrooms.
I've
talked
to
teachers
and
they've
also
said
that
they're
also
found
in
classrooms.
Students
oftentimes
eat
their
lunch
in
classrooms
after
nutrition.
After
during
fourth
period,
they
eat
their
breakfast
in
the
classrooms.
So
I
went
around
school
and
I.
Basically,
just
found
I
collected
these
straw
uppers
and
I
basically
filled
a
whole.
L
B
L
M
Good
evening,
mayor
City
members
and
community
's
Kinsey
playing
my
husband
and
I,
reside
in
Newbury
Park
tonight.
I
wanted
to
come
on
and
talk
about
public
comments,
kind
of
silly
right.
Public
comments
are
one
community
members
get
to
share
their
opinions
on
items
on
items
that
are
on
and
not
on
the
agenda.
Public
comments
are
essential
to
local
government
allowing
community
members
to
share
their
opinions
likes
dislikes
and
even
some
suggestions.
Public
comments
are
opinions
of
those
speaking
sometimes
including
facts.
M
When
speakers
are
giving
their
opinion,
they
should
speak
on
their
own
opinion
alone
and
not
share
identifying
facts
about
other
others
views
unless,
given
permission
speakers
are
expected
to
be
respectful
in
this
when
speaking
to
the
community,
as
well
as
when
they
are
waiting
their
term.
Those
attending
City
Council
meetings
are
encouraged
to
be
respectful
to
all
those
attending
the
meeting
not
engage
in
private
conversation
or
disrupt
the
city's
business.
M
In
any
way,
I
firmly
believe
that
everyone
in
our
community
has
the
right
to
attend
City
Council
meetings
and
give
public
comments,
while
feeling
safe,
respected
and
heard.
I
also
have
to
give
you
a
big.
Thank
you
for
the
continuation
of
Zoom
comments,
two
kids,
two,
a
mom
of
two
Littles
and
sometimes
it's
hard
to
get
there.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Last
week,
I
attended
the
city
council
meeting
and
spoke
about
the
board
of
property
in
which
which
I'm
super
excited
about
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
positive
addition
to
our
community.
M
There
are
my
public
comments,
which
were
all
my
opinion.
I
sat
down
in
my
chair
three
to
four
four
rows
back
and
was
approached
by
a
woman
who
had
previously
given
public
comments,
and
she
approached
me.
She
began
to
try
to
have
a
conversation
with
me,
as
others
were,
giving
their
comments.
She
was
said.
I
was
sharing
misinformation.
I
respectfully
told
her
that
it
was
not
appropriate.
She
was
disrupting
the
council
meeting
and
I
did
not
feel
comfortable.
I
repeated
myself
again
in
which
she
continued.
M
It
wasn't
until
another
woman
loudly
asked
for
the
stop
that
she
finally
moved
back
to
her
seat.
She
left
the
meeting
to
make
sure
there
was
no
other
engagement.
I
waited
an
additional
30
minutes
before
leaving
the
building
only
to
find
her
outside
the
door.
She
continued
to
yell
and
follow
me
and
a
friend
through
the
parking
lot
and
tell
another
woman
stepped
in
between
us.
We
continually
told
her
that
we
are
not
interested
and
she
needed
to
leave
us
alone.
M
I
believe
these
actions
could
lead
our
community
members
to
be
fearful
to
share
their
public
comments
at
City.
Council
meetings
being
approached
inside
the
meeting
being
followed
in
the
parking
lot
and
yelled
at
these
actions
are
not
only
harassment
but
also
severely
disrespectful
to
our
community
as
a
whole.
Along
with
the
council,
the
pub
this
public
speech
speaker
also
shared
a
map.
The
map
had
everyone's
homes
that
had
been
color-coded
with
their
opinion
on
the
portrait
property
identifying
a
small
number
with
black
for
those
who
were
not,
in
the
same
opinion
very
easily
identifiable.
M
Then
they
left
this
map
for
all
to
view
in
the
entryway
of
the
meeting
location.
Did
all
of
these
people
have
their
consent
to
share
their
opinions
and
addresses
at
the
meeting
my
home
color
was
coded
black
and
I
certainly
did
not
give
anyone
permission
to
share
My
Views
by
leaving
the
map
up
for
people
to
be
those
attending.
The
meeting
could
have
perceived
this
as
true
and
correct
a
true
and
correct
study.
Thank.
B
B
O
However,
among
the
many
items
described
in
this
new
contract,
which
is
item
F
under
10.,
is
the
inclusion
of
the
chamber
hosting
excuse
me
with
City
taxpayer
funds,
two
Council
candidate
forums
during
the
election
cycle?
I
call
your
attention
to
the
fact
that
in
the
previous
City
Council
election,
the
chamber
changed
its
previous
policy
of
never
endorsing
city
council
candidates
to
a
new
policy
where
they
now
do
make
endorsements.
Therefore,
this
new
quarter
of
a
million
dollar
chamber
contract
will
now
allow
a
private
well-subsidized
organization
to
create
a
candidate
Forum
using
public
funds.
O
Then
this
same
organization
will
endorse
one
or
more
of
those
very
candidates.
As
a
retired
social
studies,
teacher
I
am
all
for
promoting
education,
especially
about
government
and
Civics.
I
love
the
fact
the
chamber
for
I
logged
the
chamber.
Excuse
me
for
providing
these
public
forums,
as
this
exercise
is
very
important
to
improving
Community
knowledge
about
local
elections.
I
also
note
that
other
private
community
groups
provide
public
forums
and
do
endorse
candidates.
The
difference
is
they
do
not
use
public
funds
for
that
purpose.
O
I
ask
that
this
contract
be
revised,
so
taxpayer
money
does
not
underwrite
in
any
way.
The
cost
of
city
council
candidate
forums
put
on
by
a
private
organization
which
endorses
candidates
in
that
very
election,
to
keep
the
wording
as
it
is
currently
stated,
is
inappropriate
and
calls
into
question
its
propriety.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
P
Thank
you
very
much.
After
hearing
a
Sally
Hibbett's
comments,
I
I'd,
basically
like
to
Echo
those
I
think
that
that,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
our
chamber
has
decided
to
endorse
candidates,
despite
the
great
likability
of
the
number
of
the
candidates,
they
endorse
this
past
election
I
feel
that
there
is
a
conflict
involved
in
allowing
an
entity
to
endorse
people
and
then
receive
public
money
from
the
people.
They
are
potentially
endorsing
it.
Just
it
it
it
it
it.
P
B
Q
Good
evening,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
city,
council
members
and
Thousand
Oaks
citizens
here
and
virtually
my
name
is
CJ.
Keavny
I
reside
in
Newberry
Park
I've
been
living
here
for
32
years
I'm
here
also
to
address
the
item.
F
of
the
consent
calendar
before
I
address
the
topic.
I
first
like
to
congratulate
the
Greater
Conejo
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce
for
recently
being
honored
as
the
2003
president
Circle
award
at
the
Cal
chamber,
Summit
in
Sacramento.
Q
Q
Q
B
B
R
S
B
N
Mayor
I,
too,
want
to
commend
the
chamber,
which
provides
many
many
functions
that
are
vital
to
the
health
of
our
local
economy.
The
chamber
supports
small
businesses,
of
course,
but
it
also
does
many
other
things.
It
provides
scholarships.
It
guides
young
entrepreneurs
who
are
looking
to
get
started
in
business.
It
supports
business,
travel
and
tourism.
N
It
provides
it
hosts
the
score
mentoring
program,
where
retired
Executives
give
guidance
on
people
looking
to
get
started
in
new
businesses.
These
are
all
vital
functions
and
help
our
economic,
health
and
I'm
I'm.
For
those
things
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
rest
of
the
services
that
are
outlined
in
this
contract.
N
I
do
have
the
same
concern
as
the
three
public
speakers,
because
one
thing
the
chamber
was
up
until
last
year
was
nonpartisan
in
all
these
activities
and
with
the
decision
to
endorse
and
to
inject
itself
in
the
political
process,
it
is
now
not
strictly
nonpartisan.
It
is
endorsing
specific
candidates
for
specific
roles
that
chamber
members
have
a
right
to
political
activity.
Is
not
the
question
before
us.
In
fact
it
kind
of
misses
the
point.
Of
course,
chamber
members
have
rights
of
free
speech
and
assembly
and
I'll
be
first
in
line
to
defend
those
rights.
N
That's
not
the
question
before.
If
the
question
is
whether
public
money,
the
public
trust
taxpayer,
funds
should
be
used
in
furtherance
of
those
partisan
aims,
I,
don't
think,
in
my
view,
that
they
should
be
I.
I
want
to
support
the
chamber
in
its
continued
missing
to
support
our
local
business,
their
local
economy
and
toward
that
end,
I'm
willing
to
support
itemf
with
two
modifications.
N
One
is
that
we
drop
the
hosting
of
a
city
council,
candidate,
Forum
from
the
city
schedule.
The
chamber
can
continue
to
host
one
it
just
isn't
something
that
taxpayer
money
is
going
to
support,
and
second,
there
is
also
an
item
listed
in
the
schedule
on
legislative
roundtables,
and
if
the
city
is
going
to
support
those
and
I
think
it
should,
there
should
also
be
a
requirement
that
any
legislative
Roundtable
support
both
the
pro
and
the
con
side
of
any
particular
issue.
N
This
is
consistent
with
state
law
for
voter
guides,
for
example,
that
they
must
provide
both
pro
and
con
positions.
So
with
those
two
modifications,
I
would
be
willing
to
support.
Item
f.
I
do
want
to
preclude
possible
objections
to
this
on
three
counts.
One
is
sour
grapes.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
chamber
did
acknowledge,
did
endure
City
candidates
last
year
and
I
was
not
one
of
them,
so
I
suppose
there's
an
argument
to
be
made
that
council,
member
Newman
is
just
engaging
in
sour
grapes.
N
O
N
Not
that's
the
chamber's
decision,
it's
not
the
question
before
us
and
finally,
because
I've
been
accused
in
the
past
of
politicizing
things
I'm
specifically
asking
here
that
we
not
politicize
things
I,
think
government
as
a
general
statement.
We
we
are
here
in
the
quality
of
life
business.
We
are
not
in
the
political
ideology
business
and
we
function
best
when
we
stick
to
these
quality
of
life
issues
and
for
that
reason,
I
think
the
rest
of
this.
We
should
absolutely
pass.
N
B
The
way
I'd
like
to
move
forward
with
this
is
Mr
Newman.
If
you
would
make
that
and
restate
it
as
a
motion,
then
we
open
it
up
to
discussion
among
the
council
members
and
when
discussion's
over,
we
will
vote
whether
we'll
accept
what
you're
proposing
and
if
not,
then
we
will
come
back
for
another
motion
from
Council
to
move
forward.
With,
with
that
now
we
have
councilmember
Engler.
First
then
we'll
go
over
to
council
member
Adam
and
hold
on
just
a
minute,
and
we
have
actually.
B
T
Course,
good
evening,
mayor,
McNamee
and
council
members
I
just
wanted
to
make
first
of
all,
I
want
to
share
my
appreciation
for
our
continued
partnership
with
the
city
of
Thousand.
Oaks
I
have
been
part
of
this
chamber
for
over
10
years
and
in
the
president's
role
for
over
three
and
the
collaborative
efforts
between
Council
and
staff
in
the
city
with
our
chamber
to
elevate
our
business
Community
I
would
say,
is
almost
unmatched
across
the
state
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
clarifying
comments
in
regards
to
our
legislative
Roundtable.
We
do
not.
T
T
These
are
you
know,
we
invite
guest
speakers
to
speak
on
different
issues
and
different
projects
and
invite
different
elected
officials
to
speak
at
that
round
table,
but
no
decisions
are
made
in
regards
to
positions
that
are
taken
by
our
organization,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
council
is
clear
on
that
and
then
the
candidates
Forum,
if
it's
the
council's,
will
for
us
not
to
include
the
contract.
That
is
completely
fine
by
us.
B
U
U
U
U
The
people
in
the
chamber
are
completely
above
board,
but
I
want
to
just
remove
any
chance
that
someone
might
think
that
there's
some
impropriety
there
so
I
would
I
would
support
removing
the
the
directive
from
Council
to
to
have
this
Forum
the
chamber
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
can
do
whatever
a
chamber
would
like
to
do
with
the
Forum.
But
let's
take
it
away
from
our
directive
to
you
to
remove
any
shadow
of
a
doubt
that
we
have
any
vested
interest
in
the
outcome
of
those
forums.
U
The
other
aspect
of
it
I
I,
do
recognize
that
the
the
chamber
does
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
business
and
to
bring
items
to
the
business
community
at
the
Business
Roundtable
and
at
the
legislative
Roundtable
is
part
of
your
function.
So
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
that
and,
as
you
said,
it's
it's
mainly
a
an
educational
exercise,
not
a
not
a
way
of
arriving
at
a
decision.
So
I
would
not
support
that
aspect
of
what
you
have
say.
U
S
V
Thank
you
mayor.
Well,
there
actually
are
taxpayer-funded
organizations
that
do
endorse
candidates,
Ventura
County,
deputy
sheriff's
Association,
for
example,
endorses
candidates
and
they
even
contribute
to
candidates,
and
last
time
we
checked,
we
endorsed
them.
If
I
can
use
the
word
by
about
33
million
dollars
a
year.
The
professional
firefighters
Association
also
endorsed
candidates
and
write
checks
to
candidates
and
we
indirectly
Finance
them
as
well.
So
this
is
not
unheard
of,
and
many
of
us
seek
those
endorsements
and
some
of
us
get
them.
V
V
V
Furthermore,
as
far
as
these
forearms
go,
the
the
chamber
immediately
provides
the
production,
the
technology,
the
venue,
the
marketing
when
it
comes
to
the
content,
the
chamber's
not
involved
whatsoever.
There's
a
third
party
that's
enlisted
last
year
it
happened
to
be
the
acorn.
They
come
up
with
their
own
questions.
Their
own
material
had
nothing
to
do
with
the
chamber.
So
I
don't
quite
see
the
connection
between
some
sort
of
the
fact
that
they're
endorsing,
but
in
the
same
time,
putting
on
a
forum
which
is
a
huge
Community
benefit.
V
A
B
B
N
N
W
N
N
We
agree
on
that
I'm
delighted
to
hear
that
you're
perfectly
fine
dropping
the
the
one
line
about
the
Forum,
because
it
doesn't
preclude
you
from
having
the
Forum.
You
can
continue
to
have
that.
That's
not
that's!
Not!
What's
going
to
be
in
the
motion
that
I
will
make
regarding
the
legislative
Roundtable
I
I
too
didn't
perceive
that
as
a
place
where
decisions
were
made.
I
was
aware
of
one
that
I
heard
from
actually
some
discomfort
from
some
chamber
members
last
year.
N
My
my
discomfort
on
that
and
I
didn't
use.
The
word
impropriety
I
think
conflict
is
probably
a
more
accurate
term,
is
in
the
use
of
public
funds
in
a
presentation
of
views
on
one
side
and
not
the
other
again
we're
in
the
quality
of
life
business
here
we're
not
in
the
ideology
business
and
that
that's
all
I
was
saying
with
regard
to
the
legislative
Roundtable.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
B
I
would
just
like
to
say:
the
chamber
is
permission
and
purpose
is
to
encourage
businesses
to
survive
and
thrive
in
our
economic
environment.
We
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
quality
businesses
that
exchange
product
and
service,
and
from
that
exchange
of
product
and
service,
we
get
sales
tax
revenue.
In
order
to
run
our
city,
we
have
the
lowest
business
license
in
the
county.
We
have
a
lowest
allowed
sales
tax
in
the
County
compared
to
neighboring
cities,
and
that's
our
strength.
B
I
applaud
the
chamber
for
having
the
foresight
to
help
businesses
recover
from
the
covid
lockdown
and
going
bankrupt
to
encourage
them
those
new
businesses,
as
well
as
existing
businesses,
by
establishing
workshops
for
business
development
that
took
foresight
a
lot
of
work
to
put
it
together
and
the
Chamber
is
what
brought
that
to
the
table
to
help
businesses
survive
in
these
tough
Economic
Times.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
that.
B
B
B
That
said,
I
think
chamber's
doing
a
fine
job,
I'm
glad
we're
able
to
help
the
chamber
Survive
and
Thrive
and
increase
business
here
in
our
community,
and
because
of
that
we're
able
to
provide
the
services
we
do
to
our
wonderful
City
and
every
time
I
drive
through
another
city.
That's
got
potholes
all
over
the
place.
B
Huge
parking
problems,
street
lights
that
are
out
major
crime
going
on
I,
am
so
happy
to
come
back
to
Thousand
Oaks.
This
is
my
Oasis.
This
is
my
refuge
and
I.
Thank
the
council
members,
not
only
here,
but
also
the
ones
previously,
that
created
this
environment
and
the
Chamber
is
a
big
part
of
that.
So,
if
there's
no
other
comments,
councilmember
Newman,
would
you
like
to
make
this
motion.
B
N
You
attack
the
three
speakers
and
you
you
use
the
word
legitimacy
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
viewpoints
set
aside
the
issue.
We're
discussing
for
a
moment
viewpoints
that
you
don't
agree
with
are
legitimate,
they're
just
viewpoints.
You
don't
agree
with
you
can't
you
can't
say
that
they're.
They
are
therefore
illegitimate,
because
you
don't
agree
with
them
that
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
I
I
object
to
that
characterization
noted.
W
Okay,
so
I
I
actually
have
a
little
bit
different
of
a
opinion
than
my
colleagues.
I
was
not
endorsed
by
chamber
and
I
sought
after
the
endorsement,
which
I
was
disappointed
in
but
I
also
one
recognize
the
importance
of
what
they
do
for
our
community
and
especially
our
business
community
and
second,
what
I
experienced
at
The,
Forum
and
the
platform
that
they
provided
me
was
I.
W
Think
a
big
part
of
why
I
was
elected
when
I
was
knocking
doors
every
day
and
talking
to
the
residents
I
had
so
many
people
say
we
listened
to
you
at
The
Forum
and
we
are
voting
for
you
because
of
it,
and
so
I
think
I'm,
actually
a
living
example
of
not
getting
an
endorsement
and
succeeding
based
on
the
platform
that
they
provided
me.
So
because
of
my
experience,
I
would
actually
have
a
different
view
than
than
you
or
or
my
colleagues,
and
so
I
would
be
okay.
W
N
Yes
and
I
want
to
make
clear
that
I'm
making
this
motion
not
in
any
way
to
direct
the
chamber
on
what
it
can
or
can't
do.
This
is
not
about
the
chamber
cannot
have
a
form.
This
is
not
about.
The
chamber,
cannot
have
a
legislative
Roundtable.
The
chamber
can
do
whatever
it
wants
we're.
We
have
no
enforcement
power
over
the
chamber.
My
motion
specifically
is
about
public
the
expenditure
of
public
money
and
what
is
the
right
and
proper
role
in
that
spending?
N
So
with
that
I
want
to
move
itemf
with
two
amendments,
one
is
to
remove
the
one
line,
as
the
chamber's
president
has
indicated,
she
would
approve
regarding
Council
debates,
and
the
second
is
to
add
language
to
the
round
table
line,
saying
that
if
public
money
is
used
in
that
activity,
that
both
sides
of
it
of
an
issue
would
be
presented
at
a
round
table.
That's
my
motion.
N
B
V
V
V
N
Want
to
delete
that,
yes,
sir,
and
what
was
the
other
part,
the
other
was
to
modify
the
line
on
the
legislative
round
table
that,
if
we're
going
to
fund
that
we
can
either
delete
that.
So
so
there's
no
public
money.
They
can
still
do
it,
we're
not
stopping
them
from
doing
it
either
delete
it
or
what
I
had
proposed
is
that
we
fund
that,
because
it
is
in
the
public
interest,
but
we
require
both
sides
of
an
issue
to
be
presented.
N
N
V
B
U
What
we're
saying
here
doesn't
preclude
that
from
happening
right.
What
what
I
would
propose
is
simply
that
we
are
not
directing
the
chamber
to
do
so,
based
on
the
fact
that
now
we
have
a
chamber
that
is
making
endorsements,
the
chamber
wishes
to
do
that,
that
that
is
a
service
to
the
community.
That
I
think
would
be
well
appreciated
by
the
community,
but
all
we're
all
I
would
say
is:
let's
take
that
out
of
the
out
of
our
contract
and
not
direct
them
to
do
it
with
with
public
funds.
B
B
U
N
N
B
Have
agreement:
let's
do
this,
make
it
clean
we're
going
to
vote
on
your
motion.
First,
the
modification
that's
right
and
then,
if
it
succeeds
great,
if
it
doesn't
then
we'll
come
back
and
Mr
Engler
will
make
his
motion
and
then
we'll
vote
on
that,
and
if
that
succeeds
great,
if
it
doesn't,
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
motion
as
it
exists
from
recommendation.
So.
N
U
B
U
N
S
S
A
X
X
U
S
B
S
N
N
B
U
S
R
S
C
Y
Y
The
City's
community
Social
Services,
grant
program
funding
is
included
in
the
proposed
fiscal
year
2023-24
budget.
The
grant
provides
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
annual
funding
for
social
services
agencies
in
order
to
qualify.
The
applicants
must
be
a
501c3,
not-for-profit
organization
located
in
or
primarily
serving
citizens
of
Thousands
Oaks
qualifying
programs
must
provide
a
benefit
to
the
community.
They
serve
for
a
wide
cross-section
of
Thousand
Oaks
residents.
Y
The
application
period
was
open
from
March
10th
to
April
3rd
of
2023..
The
application
was
available
on
the
city's
website.
Email
notifications
were
sent
to
the
applicants
from
the
previous
cycle.
Previous
Grant
Cycles,
a
press
release
was
published
and
the
city
utilized
social
media
to
notify
a
community
of
the
grant
opportunity.
Y
The
city
received
28
applications
with
Grant
requests,
totaling
267
thousand
dollars
the
cfrc
members
independently
evaluated
the
applications
using
predetermined,
scoring
criteria
based
on
requirements
in
the
grant
applications
on
May
10th.
The
cfrc
met
to
discuss
the
correlated
scores
of
the
applicants
and
unanimously
confirmed
the
recommendation
to
city
council.
Y
Y
V
Thank
you
mayor,
awesome,
very
worthy
organizations.
As
always.
Thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
safe
passage.
Man,
a
hospice,
Westminster
free
clinic,
all
great
organizations,
so
glad
to
be
able
to
contribute.
We
even
found
a
little
bit
money
for
the
Ventura
Ventura
County
Family,
Justice
Center,
which
I
was
glad
to
see
so
move
14a.
The
community
Social
Service,
Grant
recommendations.
B
C
Z
Z
Staff
went
into
great
detail
on
both
budgets
at
the
study
sessions
that
we
had
earlier
so
tonight
is
a
high
level
presentation
and
we're
highlighting
some
changes.
Minor
changes
that
we've
made
since
the
study
sessions,
as
I
mentioned
back
in
our
study
sessions,
budget
engagement
with
the
community
through
our
your
city,
your
priorities
campaign
was
a
central
Focus
during
the
past
several
months.
The
goal
was
to
help
residents
gain
a
basic
understanding
of
the
municipal
budget
process
and
get
some
Community
feedback
we
reached
over
54
000.
Z
Our
budget
theme
this
year
is
rooted
in
community
a
nod
to
the
general
Plan
update
process.
As
mentioned,
we
asked
for
input
on
what
community
means
to
everyone,
and
we
asked
for
original
artwork
submissions
from
those
in
the
community,
and
this
is
just
a
compilation
of
the
different
artwork
that
we've
received.
This
is
several
of
these
submissions
and
we
were
really
impressed
with
all
of
everything
that
we
received.
Z
The
city
has
a
biennial
budget
process,
so
we
adopt
a
budget
every
two
years.
As
usual
staff
was
conservative.
In
our
Revenue
estimates,
we
took
into
consideration
increases
in
the
cost
of
doing
business
in
our
expenditure
budget
estimates,
the
city
continued
to
remain
fiscally
strong
as
evidence
in
our
past
actual
results
and
our
proposed
budget
that
incorporates
strategic,
one-time
and
ongoing
investments
in
services
and
infrastructure.
Our
budget
is
structurally
balanced,
which
means
that
ongoing
revenues
are
sufficient
to
cover
our
ongoing
operating
expenditures.
Our
reserves
in
the
general
fund
support
icap
projects
in
any
one-time
initiatives.
Z
Our
operating
budget
is
a
comprehensive
document
that
is
divided
into
multiple
sections
in
order
to
help
the
user
easily
navigate
our
budget.
The
city
is
required
to
use
fund
accounting,
so
our
funds
are
broken
out
by
sections
staff.
Insurers
that
are
operating
in
CIP
budgets
adhere
to
our
governmental
and
legal
requirements.
Z
Our
proposed
budget
for
fiscal
year
2324
is
270.5
million,
with
the
bulk
of
the
budget
in
the
general
fund,
the
city's
discretionary
fund
that
provides
a
wide
range
of
services.
Our
next
two
largest
are
water
and
wastewater
funds,
with
the
three
of
them
comprising
almost
three-fourths
of
the
city's
overall
budget
proposed
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2425
is
271.4
million,
which
is
very
similar
to
fiscal
year,
2324.
again
with
the
bulk
of
the
budget
in
our
general
fund
and
our
water
and
wastewater
funds.
Z
Z
This
table
highlights
our
proposed
Revenue
types
for
the
general
fund
over
the
next
two
fiscal
years,
as
well
as
the
percent
change
in
the
budget.
Overall,
there
is
a
7.4
increase
from
projections
from
fiscal
year
22-23
and
a
slight
decrease
in
the
second
year
of
the
budget.
This
is
primarily
due
to
revenue
from
other
agencies
expected
to
decline
due
to
anticipated
Grant
revenue
for
construction
of
our
navigation,
Center
being
included
in
the
first
year.
Z
And
speaking
of
sales,
tax
is
our
largest
revenue.
Source
I
showed
this
at
our
study
session,
but
just
wanted
to
reiterate
how
our
seven
and
a
quarter
sales
tax
is
divided,
which
is,
of
course,
the
lowest
sales
tax
that
a
city
can
have
most
of
the
sales
tax,
leaves
our
city
and
goes
to
other
agencies
with
the
city
actually
only
receiving
about
13
of
the
dollar.
So
a
small
portion
of
the
sales
tax
paid
in
Thousand
Oaks
actually
directly
comes
back
to
our
city.
Z
For
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
on
city
services,
it's
very
similar
with
our
property
tax.
We
incorporated
without
a
general
Municipal
property
tax,
and
we
now
receive
a
small
share,
called
tea
or
tax
Equity
allocation.
The
bulk
of
the
one
percent
property
tax
from
Thousand
Oaks
residents
and
businesses
goes
to
other
governmental
agencies,
not
to
the
city.
The
city's
general
fund
receives
about
four
percent
with
our
library
getting
another
two
percent.
Z
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
of
the
changes
since
I
last
saw
you
at
the
study
session
in
the
general
fund.
Overall,
there
was
a
3.1
million
increase
in
fiscal
year,
23
24
revenue
and
expenditure
budgets.
This
was
to
account
for
the
cost
for
the
Development
and
Construction
of
the
navigation
Center,
but
that
is
being
offset
by
anticipated
Grant
revenue
and
or
funding
from
the
county.
Z
We
also
slightly
increased
our
operations
budget
each
year
for
the
navigation
center
after
receiving
updated
operating
estimates
after
receiving
our
property
tax
revenue
in
April
and
May
staff
updated
our
projected
ending
fund
balance
in
our
library
fund.
So
we
are
anticipating
the
general
funds
transfer
to
support
the
library
to
decrease
and
that's
a
decrease
in
our
expenditures.
Z
We
also
have
our
library
fund
as
a
special
Revenue
fund
and
I
mentioned
the
property
tax
revenue
budget.
So
we
increased
our
property
tax
revenue
budget
which
necessitated
a
decrease
in
our
Journal
fund
transfer
in
in
our
Enterprise
funds.
There
was
a
change
in
our
Wastewater
fund.
I
briefly
referenced
this
during
the
study
session
that
our
chemical
costs
came
in
much
higher,
so
we
increased
our
expenses
for
our
chemical
costs.
We
also
increased
our
revenues
in
the
Wastewater
fund,
based
on
anticipating
and
needing
more
revenue
for
these
changes.
Z
Z
This
map
I
showed
this
at
our
study
session.
But
again,
it
just
highlights
the
location
of
our
CIP
projects
and
how
funds
are
being
invested
throughout
the
city,
including
in
Newbury
Park
in
Sunset,
Hills,
downtown,
Thousand,
Oaks,
Westlake
Village.
Our
projects
really
are
Incorporated
all
throughout
the
city.
Z
Z
There
are
11
project
categories
which
are
listed
in
numerical
order
from
greatest
proposed
budget
to
the
least
the
water
category
has
the
highest
proposed
budget
at
30.1
million,
with
our
Wastewater
fund.
Next,
at
25.6
million
those
categories
comprise
some
of
our
largest
assets
and
also
our
oldest
assets
that
require
a
lot
of
Maintenance
and
improvements.
Z
There
were
a
few
changes
to
our
ceip
budget
since
our
study
session
in
April,
both
of
the
bike
Lanes
projects
were
revised
to
reflect
the
grant
funding
that
is
actually
being
received
this
fiscal
year.
So
we
moved
the
budget
into
the
carryover
column
and
decreased
some
of
the
budget
for
both
of
those
projects.
Since
grants
are
received
this
year,
the
freeway
Reservoir
access
road
and
Province
project
was
moved
up
in
the
schedule,
so
the
budget
was
also
moved
up.
Z
The
EV
charger
city-wide
project
has
moved
to
year,
one
for
some
of
the
budget
in
order
to
complete
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
so
that
we
can
apply
for
grant
funding
our
TL
curb
teal,
Boulevard,
curb
and
pedestrian
Crossings
project
was
updated
to
move
budget
to
carryover.
For
this
fiscal
year
and
our
pavement
overlay
project
was
updated
to
reflect
available
gas
funding.
Z
Included
in
the
city's
budget
are
the
city's
financial
and
budget
policies
which
are
Central
to
a
strategic,
long-term
approach
to
sound
financial
management.
It's
a
best
practice
of
government
Finance
Officers
Association
to
have
and
adhere
to
finance
and
budget
policies.
Staff
periodically
review
these
policies
and
our
investment
policy
is
actually
separately
presented
annually
to
city
council
for
adoption
foreign.
Z
This
budget
presents
fiscally
sustainable
plan
for
the
next
two
years
of
providing
city
services
and
infrastructure
Investments
before
ending
I
just
wanted
to
thank
key
City
staff
that
were
on
the
integral
part
of
the
development
of
the
proposed
budget.
This
encompasses
staff
from
every
single
Department
in
the
city,
working
together
to
present
a
balanced
spending
plan
addressing
city
council
priorities
and
needs
of
the
community.
B
V
This
process
is
just
about
to
wrap
itself
up.
You
can
congratulations
on
great
work.
We
talk
about
that
in
just
a
minute,
but
and
I
really
appreciate
the
way
you
linked
our
priorities
with
the
budget
and
I.
Think
that's
really
reflected
here.
One
of
the
priorities
we
talked
about
at
the
goal
setting
meeting
was
a
potential
Family,
Justice
Center
and
that
may
come
to
the
East
County
and
how
we
would
certainly
be
in
favor
of
that
I
understand
there
there's
some
progress
being
made
in
the
county
towards
that
end.
V
Maybe
this
is
a
better
question
for
Mr
Bowers
as
this
process
moves
along
since
the
Family
Justice
Center
isn't
mentioned
specifically
in
the
budget.
Do
we
have
plans
to
you
know,
continue
to
to
help
in
moving
this
process
along
and
do
we
have
some
plans
for
potential
funding
if
it
ends
up
coming
our
way.
AA
So,
as
with
any
priority
like
that,
obviously
it's
been
articulated
by
the
council
in
your
goals.
The
my
understanding
is
that
the
county
is
still
working
the
towards
what
the
next
steps
for
that
look
like
in
the
event
that
there
is
a
funding
ask
or
something
that
emerges
out
of
that.
Then
we'd
certainly
bring
that
back
to
the
city
council
and
make
a
recommendational
options
that
you
would
have
to
fund
it.
AA
E
V
U
A
U
U
What
I
would
like
to
suggest,
perhaps,
is
that
our
finance
department
and
the
community
funding
Review
Committee
get
together
and
look
at
ways.
Perhaps
we
can
increase
that
in
budgets
going
forward
and
assign
that
as
a
task
to
them,
so
that
we
can
be
a
little
more
responsive
to
our
social
services
groups.
This
last
time
around
there
was
an
ask
for
267
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
We
were
able
to
fund
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
that.
So
there's
a
demand
out.
There
I
think.
B
Any
other
questions
of
staff
esposaurino
I'd
like
to
say
that
again,
I
talked
to
other
council
members
from
other
cities
and
we
are
sitting
in
a
very
strong
financial
position
with
our
reserves
that
if
we
were
shut
down
today,
not
receiving
any
more
funds
coming
in
from
the
state,
we
have
a
good
year
and
a
half
two
years
that
we
would
survive,
and
it's
because
of
your
leadership
there,
as
well
as
past
councils.
Thank
you
very
much
for
doing
a
good
work.
City
manager,
yeah.
AA
Thanks
I
just
want
to
take
a
quick
sec
to
respond
to
councilman
engler's
question,
and
we
have
had
some
internal
discussions
based
on
you
mentioning
that
that
question,
so
we
have
a
number
of
those
different
funds.
First,
let
me
just
say
that
the
councils
years
ago
that
established
those
endowment
funds
were
wise
beyond
their
years
because,
having
worked
in
other
jurisdictions
where
those
types
of
competitive,
Grant
funded
processes,
don't
exist,
what
you
end
up
with
as
a
Litany
of
one-off
requests,
that
makes
it
very
difficult
to
weigh
them
against
one
another.
AA
They
come
throughout
the
year
very
difficult
to
budget
for
and
not
really
the
best
practice,
and
so
having
that
is,
is
fantastic,
so
they've
set
aside
money
and
then
the
way
that
that
just
so
the
public
understands
is
the
interest
earnings
off
of
those
that
are
what
has
generated
that
through
the
years
so
certainly
happy
to
take
a
look.
Miss
hartato
is
here
who
oversees
that
unit
as
well.
It's
interesting.
AA
We
have
some
sections
like
our
sports
facilities,
endowment
that
is
historically
undersubscribed,
meaning
we
don't
get
as
many
ass
and
then
we
get
some
in
Social
Services.
There
are
so
what
we
would
likely
do
is
collaborate
with
the
community
funding
review
Community,
but
we're
also
going
to
take
kind
of
a
five-year
look
back
and
look
at
those
that
would
have
qualified
meaning.
AA
There
are
a
lot
of
asks
that
we
receive
in
either
the
they
don't
meet
the
grant
criteria
and
so
of
those
that
would
have
qualified
you
know
what
would
that
number
kind
of
look
like
and
maybe
make
some
some
informed
recommendations
to
to
the
Council
of
what
that
might
look
like
based
on
fund
to
fund,
and
we
can
do
that
as
we
move
forward
in
the
in
the
year
ahead.
If
that's,
okay,
no.
U
B
Z
Right
now,
based
on
our
8
million
dollar
endowment
you're
talking,
maybe
150
000
in
interest
earnings
on
that
endowment,
which
is
not
you
know,
quite
up
to
being
able
to
fully
fund
the
program
so
we're
having
to
dip
into
our
fund
balance
to
fund
it
right
now.
But
we
are
seeing
our
yield
increase
as
some
of
those
older
Investments
do
drop
off
and
we're
able
to
reinvest
at
much
higher
rates.
Excellent.
B
C
B
X
X
The
annual
increase
for
all
lighting
zones
is
also
5.77
percent,
and
there
are
two
developments
that
are
proposed
to
be
annexed
into
the
lighting
District.
This
year
the
average
landscape
assessment
rates
are
proposed
to
increase
by
19.69
per
year
or
roughly
about
two
dollars
per
month
for
the
average
resident
and
then
just
to
note.
X
X
So
some
future
challenges
of
the
district
lighting
and
Landscape
continues
to
face
challenges
with
escalating
utility
rates
and
contract
maintenance
costs.
In
addition,
Public
Works
is
beginning
to
allocate
funding
towards
landscape
Rehabilitation
projects
focused
upon
reducing
water
consumption,
as
well
as
using
smart
irrigation
controllers
and
the
lighting
District
revenues
continue
to
lag
behind
expenses
and
do
require
some
City
subsidies.
X
B
N
Newman,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
You
made
reference
to
increasing
utility
rates,
something
we're
all
struggling
with
I'm
wondering
if
there
can
be
any
relief
from
that
either
through
some
sort
of
microgrids
that
I
know.
Public
Works
is
standing
up
in
other
City
facilities
and
or
switching
from
a
current
utility
to
the
clean
power
Alliance.
AB
AB
Yeah
the
the
way
that
the
current
lighting
landscape
district
is
currently
configured.
We
don't
have
any
a
real
high
energy
uses
if
we
just
stick
with
electrical
at
any
one
location,
it's
kind
of
more
just
spread
across
the
city,
so
the
installation
of
microgrids
wouldn't
be
there,
wouldn't
be
really
a
return
on
investment
there.
AB
However,
as
a
likely
recommendation,
the
climate
action
plan
which
may
be
coming
to
council
later
this
year
would
entail
switching
the
street
light
Network
to
LED
street
lights,
which
will
have
some
reduction
of
energy
costs
not
as
much
as
we
maybe
would
have
hoped.
But
it's
it
is
a
lower
cost
with
with
SCE.
So
that's
one
advantage
that
we
may
seek
to
to
pursue.
X
N
N
B
C
U
U
V
B
V
Okay,
sure
yeah
I
mean
South
Carolina
for
Southern
California
Association
governments
has
six
counties
and
of
one
is
Ventura,
and
you
know
we
talk
about
all
kinds
of
issues,
especially
in
the
breakouts
we
covered
Transportation.
You
know
the
governor
wants
us
to
be
zero
emissions
by
2035,
but
the
issue
also
came
up
well
how?
How
are
we
going
to
afford
all
these
electric
cars?
So
this
could
be
a
little
bit
of
a
problem.
I've
talked
about
job
growth.
V
You
know
you
got
the
Boomers
retiring,
but
you
got
the
X
Y
and
Z
generations
and
the
Millennials
coming
up
and
they
have
a
whole
different
view
of
what
jobs
are.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
friction
there
and
we
talked
about
housing
and
everybody's
in
favor
of
bringing
back
the
Redevelopment
agencies.
So
are
you
listening
Sacramento
and
then
I'll
just
share
one
little
anecdote
I
think
it
was
during
the
housing
breakout.
There
was
one
fellow
up
there
that
told
everybody
there.
V
As
elected
said,
if
you're
going
to
work
with
a
builder
you've
got
to
give
them
your
demands
right
away,
you
got
to
tell
them
what
you
want.
You
know
step
up
there
and
I
want
this
street
fixed
and
I
want
this
and
I
want
that
and
I
thought
to
myself.
I
wonder
if
that's
this
greatest
tactic
in
the
world
to
start
out
by
demanding
what
we
want
and
I'll
give
you
the
example.
As
you
know,
we
attract
very
high
quality
projects.
V
U
A
U
You
go
I
I,
do
agree.
100
I,
attended
that
Workshop
as
well.
Do
you
remember
that
and-
and
the
another
speaker
had
said
that
basically
rather
than
I
meant
to
really
paraphrase
here,
but
rather
than
demand,
it's
a
collaborative
effort,
yes
between
the
Builder
and
and
the
city
and
the
citizens
to
come
up
with
products
that
are
what
the
city
city
needs
and
which
serve
the
needs
of
the
community.
So
it's.
If
you
take
that
more
collaborative
approach,
typically
you
get
better
results.
U
This
is
this
is
not
anything
that
is
particularly
earth-shattering,
but
it
was
a
nice
nice
thing
that
I
brought
back
as
a
refresher
we
had.
One
of
our
speakers
was
a
somebody
who
was
a
rocket
scientist
who
talked
about
the
way,
a
NASA
and
those
organizations
to
think
about
things,
and
they
always
talk
about
rather
than
forecasting.
U
They
talk
about
back
casting,
in
other
words,
start
where
you
want
to
be
and
work
back
on
the
ways
to
make
that
happen,
and
it
worked
very
well
to
get
us
on
the
moon
in
eight
years
and
he
suggested
that
we
as
as
Community
leaders,
look
at
where
we
would
like
the
city
to
be
and
then
take
those
steps
to
make
that
happen.
So
I'll
just
leave
that
if
it
was
another
good,
another
good
exercise.
Thank.
B
You,
sir
again
I,
would
like
to
extend
my
thanks
as
I'm
sure
the
council
does
as
well
to
our
legislative
analyst
Mina
leyba,
who
does
a
great
job
in
Washington,
DC,
Sacramento
and
here
with
Cal
cities.
So
Mina
we'd
like
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
the
good
work
that
you
do
and
please
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
the
future
years,
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
receive
the
report
that
would
be
16
a
one
and
two
could
I
have
a
motion
who's
going
to
fight
for
this
one
Mr.
B
C
B
AA
So
much
mayor
McNamee,
we
have
a
meeting
two
weeks
from
tonight
and
right
now,
we've
got
two
more
public
hearings
set
our
hearing
number
three
for
district
elections
and
a
hearing
on
a
development
consideration
at
2150,
West
Hillcrest
and
that's
a
mixed
use
apartment
that
went
to
Planning
Commission
last
night.
We
will
also
hear
annual
reports
from
our
Council
on
Aging
and
our
youth
commission,
and
that
will
be
two
weeks
from
tonight
on
the
20th
of
June.