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A
B
B
B
C
C
B
D
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
my
pleasure,
to
be
with
you
this
evening,
wanted
to
give
you
just
a
very,
very
brief,
update
on
cobit
tonight
and
focus
that
update
on
vaccinations,
as
I'm
sure
some
have
heard
and
word
will
continue
to
spread.
The
county
did
loosen
up
eligibility
for
vaccinations
today
to
those
that
were
65
and
older
again,
those
that
are
65
and
older,
so
vaccination
appointments
were
made
available.
D
Starting
this
morning,
there
was
availability
throughout
the
week
for
this
week
on
on
appointments,
based
on
a
number
of
reports
that
we've
received
just
about
a
hundred
thousand
doses
have
been
administered
as
of
yesterday
in
the
county
and
of
those
62
000,
225,
first
doses
and
12
000
or
so.
Appointments
about
19
000
of
those
are
second
doses,
so
continuing
a
lot
of
hard
work.
D
I
know
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
folks
in
the
community
with
their
stories
of
going
through
and
getting
their
their
first
doses
and
shots.
This
is
really
hardening
because
it's
going
to
be
the
the
piece
that
helps
us
move
forward,
helps
support
our
businesses
and
continues
us
down
the
path
to
recovery.
D
There
is
a
concern
out
there
at
the
county
level
about
the
strength
of
variants
that
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
read
about
in
the
news.
It's
not
widespread
here
locally
yet,
but
there
is
some
concern
around
that
which
just
really
makes
it
that
much
more
important
to
move
through
the
vaccination
process,
and
it
seems
like
the
availability
of
doses,
is
improving
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
hard
to
support
the
county's
efforts
there.
D
We
do
have
some
of
our
employees
disaster
services,
workers
that
are
providing
logistical
support
at
vaccination
sites,
and
we
continue
to
make
an
offer
of
folks
that
are
in
need
of
that
are
eligible
to
assist
if
the
county
has
additional
needs
out
there.
That
concludes
my
update,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
E
Hi
good
evening
I'll
get
my
video
started
hi
good
evening,
thanks
a
lot
for
for
having
me
tonight.
My
name
is
christopher
moore,
I'm
the
california
public
utility
commission's
assigned
liaison
for
the
central
coast
in
santa
monica
mountains.
I've
been
this
position
for
approximately
three
years,
and
the
goal
of
this
very
short
presentation
is
to
make
sure
the
council
is
aware
how
I
can
be
a
resource.
E
Sorry,
as
you
may
be
aware,
the
cpc
oversees
utility
services
in
our
state
is
responsible
to
ensure
that
the
over
50
billion
dollars
in
services
that
californians
use
is
provided
in
a
safe,
reliable
and
affordable
manner.
I've
seen
in
my
my
time
in
the
position
that
thousand
oaks
gets
the
affordable
part
like
no
other
city.
I've
worked
with.
This
is
particularly
when
it
comes
to
water
rates.
When
I
first
took
the
job,
I
dropped
my
card
off
a
number
of
city
halls,
and
only
one
did.
E
I
find
myself
in
an
impromptu
45
minute
meeting
with
the
public
works
director.
If
j,
spurgeon's
knowledge
and
dedication
continues
with
the
staff
in
the
public
works
department,
there's
probably
not
much
more,
I
can
do
to
help
with
water
rate
cases,
though
I
am
more
than
happy
to
help
with
any
transition.
E
E
It's
possible
that
your
constituents
are
smart
enough
to
resolve
these
with
the
utilities
or
take
them
to
our
consumer
affairs
branch,
which
is
the
proper
protocol,
but
it
never
hurts
to
see
see
me
particularly
if
there
are
many
residents
experiencing
similar
issues,
perhaps
more
notable
and
some
big
issues
that
I'm
hearing
from
neighboring
jurisdictions
and
not
from
thousand
oaks
are
in
regards
to
southern
california,
edison's
public
safety,
power,
shutoff
policy
and
their
vegetation
management
practices.
E
Of
course,
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
regulate.
That
may
be,
that
may
be
of
interest
that
I
mean
we
can
we.
I
understand,
you've
got
a
lot
on
your
to
a
very
full
schedule,
so
we
can't
handle
those
today.
So
you
know
I
can
come
back
at
any
time,
discuss
with
your
staff
or
give
a
more
thorough
presentation
to
the
full
council.
So
I'd
just
be
interested.
E
If
you
have
any
questions
for
me,
if
there's
any
particular
topics
or
concern
that
should
be
on
my
radar,
so
I
know
to
include
your
staff.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
B
Thank
you,
mr
moore.
I
do
have
a
question
in
thousand
oaks.
We
of
course
have
had
power
outages
as
well,
and
not
sure
whether
you
can
speak
to
the
psps's
with
southern
california.
E
There
have
definitely
they're
they're
yeah,
so
the
psps's.
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
which
lead
to
psps.
You
know
there
are
a
number
of
the
number
of
things
that
can
lead
to
an
edge
besides
a
psps,
and
that
actually
has
been
one
of
the
ongoing
issues
with
edison
is
that
it's
not
always
clearly
communicated
when
something
is
a
psps.
E
I
know
that
simi
valley
and
moorpark
have
been
experiencing
a
lot
of
psps,
often
with
with
minimal
notification
and
they've
they've
written
us
letters,
and
I
believe,
they're
becoming
parties
of
to
a
proceeding.
There's
also
some
organizing
going
on
from
agua
dulce,
which
includes
parts
of
ventura,
county
and
they're,
looking
to
actually
monitor
every
single
sce
psps
and
submit
comments
about
how
how
sc
sce
did
and
whether
it
was
in
fact
necessary,
they're.
Actually,
looking
to
set
up
their
own
monitoring
stations
as
well.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Psps's,
of
course,
are
they
affect
our
citizens
as
much
as
any
neighboring
city.
We
are
in
a
in
a
wind
zone,
so
to
speak,
and
just
recently
we
did
have
a
a
psps
that
was
quite
extensive
and
lasted
for
quite
a
while
in
different
neighborhoods.
F
If,
if,
if
some
of
our
citizens
have
complaints
about
that
or
how
those
psps
has
rolled
out,
is
there
a?
Can
you
share
with
a
us,
a
number
or
a
website
to
go
to
to
share
their
comments.
E
I
can
follow
up
and
share
share
with
that
there.
Every
single
sce
psps
is
actually
noticed
and
submitted
to
us
and
there's
an
exam.
There
is
a
time
period
for
comment
on
those
on
those
psps.
E
Yeah
you
can
always
call
or
write
to
our
public
advisor
as
well.
Let
me
get
the
let
me
get
the
pull
that
pull
that
up
right
now,.
F
I
did
it.
I
didn't
want
to
share
your
particular
number
if
you
had
a
better
number
for
everybody,.
E
E
B
G
G
E
The
the
public
safety
power
shutoffs
has
to
do
with
the
change
in
wildfire
activity
so
and
that's
the
the
authority
to
shut
off
power
lines
in
the
case
of
imminent
threat
to
property
and
public
health
is
an
authority
that
the
utilities
have
and
they
are
now
exercising
it.
We
are
exercising
oversight
of
them
to
try
to
minimize
this,
but
ultimately
the
utilities
are
making
that
those
decisions
to
to
to
deactivate
power
lines
in
order
to
try
to
protect
public
safety.
E
Now,
of
course,
there
are
the
rolling
blackouts
that
happened.
Last
august,
there's
been
a
lot
of
criticism
of
our
agency,
as
well
as
the
independent
system
operator.
In
terms
of
you
know
how
that
how
how
planning
failed
in
those
cases,
there's
a
lot
there's
currently
a
lot
of
planning
to
try
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
happen
this
next,
this
next
cycle,
there's
a
full
root,
cause
analysis.
I
could
come
back
to
talk
about
that
at
some
point.
E
It
basically
came
to
us
that
the
current
procedures
in
place
did
not
anticipate
a
large.
You
know
this
the
the
amount
of
heat
all
across
the
west
at
the
same
period
of
time,
along
with
intermediary
such
as
renewables,
not
not
being
not
being
able
to
to
fill
the
gap.
So
that's
that's
very
much
a
current
issue
and
one
that
we're
working
to
avoid
in
the
future.
G
E
They
are
putting
significant
effort
into
wildfire
mitigation,
which
includes
a
vegetation
management
program.
Usually
we
a
lot
in
fact
they're
being
so
aggressive
in
the
santa
monica
mountains.
We
hear
a
lot
on
the
other
side
that
the
people
feel
like
they
feel
that
they're
being
too
aggressive.
So
there's
a
very
it's
it's
it's
a
difficult,
difficult
balancing
act
in
terms
of
you
know
that
that
they're
playing
out
and
we're
trying
to
we're
very
much
in
the
middle
and
trying
to
moderate
that
discussion
between
rate
payers
and
the
utility.
G
As
I
share
with
you
the
following
20
years
ago,
I
was
speaking
to
a
u.s
forest
ranger
and
he
prolifically
expected
and
saw
the
future
of
future
wildfires
in
california.
By
telling
me
how
policy
had
changed
in
sacramento
regarding
u.s
forest
service
going
into
vegetation
that
was
dead
in
the
forest
and
they
used
to
clean
it
out
to
reduce
the
brush
fire
possibility.
G
G
He
spoke
of
how
underneath
power
lines
like
southern
california
edison
there
used
to
be
teams
that
would
go
in
and
clear
out
the
brush
underneath
those
power
lines.
So
in
the
case
a
line
does
come
down
that
it
doesn't
fall
on
anything
that
would
ignite
until
power
utilities
are
able
to
be
put
back
online
again.
G
He
told
me
how
it
used
to
be
that
southern
california
edison,
as
well
as
other
power
companies,
used
to
go
in
and
inspect
the
connections
on
the
power
terminals
to
evaluate
if
they
need
to
be
repaired
or
not
or
if
their
potential
of
coming
down.
In
the
case
of
power,
outages
or
any
surges
things
of
that
nature.
G
G
E
Mean
so
cpc
has
no
jurisdiction
over
forest
management,
so
I
really,
I
really
can't
speak
to
that
issue.
We've
the
wildfire
mitigation
plans
are
our
vehicle
to
try
to
improve
management,
and
they
include
what
you
know.
Vegetation
management
is
a
major
piece
of
those
they're
also
a
risk-based
tool.
So
we
look
every
year
to
improve
how
how
the
various
practices
in
the
plan
are
to
meant
to
benchmark
them
across
against
other
plans
and
overall
improve
the
management
by
the
utilities
and
reduce
risk.
G
Is
there
any
control
that
puc
has
under
the
power
lines
that
come
down
and
clearing
of
the
vegetation
underneath
that
the
california
youth
corps
and
so
forth,
used
to
get
jobs
going
out
doing
such
clearance?
Is
that
under
the
preview
of
the
puc,
to
encourage
that
to
take.
E
Place
edison:
we
have
the
rules
regarding
the
the
right
right
of
way.
We
have
the
general
order
95,
which
dictates
vegetation
management
and
that
and
and
minimum
clearances
that
must
be
maintained
by
southern
california,
edison
and
the
other
investor-owned
utilities.
So
that's
that
we
that's
been
long.
You
know
long-staffing
months
long,
standing
practices
that
have
those
minimums
and
that
that
hasn't
changed
most
of
the
utilities
go
beyond
those
minimums
and
are
going
much
beyond
those
minimums
under
the
the
purview
of
the
wildfire
mitigation
plans.
E
A
This
is
a
time
and
place
for
public
comments
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
city
council
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Eleven
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
B
A
Oh
good
evening,
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
and
city
council,
members
and
staff.
Thank
you
so
very
much.
My
name
is
stephanie
belding.
I
am
tonight
representing
the
council
on
aging,
I'm
the
vice
chair
of
council
on
aging
and
I
do
live
in
a
thousand
oaks.
Our
much
awaited
survey.
You
know
we're
I've
been
working
as
a
city
on
a
senior
adult
master
plan
and
the
survey
is
wonderfully
up
and
active.
Now
it.
This
really
presents
a
rarity
of
opportunity
for
our
community
members.
A
Most
of
my
senior
friends
and
acquaintances
are
absolutely
not
shy
about
expressing
their
opinions,
and
so
I'm
asking
you
to
please
jump
into
the
survey
anyone
watching
tonight
we
do
have.
There
are
informations
available
on
the
thousand
oaks
acorn
and
in
t.o
star
and
online
and
at
the
library
websites
and
at
our
council
on
aging
social
media
pages.
A
A
I'm
urging
you
to
make
your
voice
heard
so
that
we
can
keep
thousand
oaks
a
vital
livable
community
for
all
ages
and
again,
the
survey
is
at
www,
dot,
t
oaks,
dot,
o
r
g,
slash
seniors
or
call
805,
381
7362,
and
you
can
even
print
out
the
survey.
Just
be
sure
you
click
on
the
way
to
print
out
the
survey
before
you
actually
submit
your
final
question
and
that's
another
wonderful
way
to
keep
a
record
of
all
the
phone
numbers
and
services
that
are
around.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
C
Hi,
so
my
name
is
ryan
palmer.
I
am
26
years
old
and
I've
lived
in
thousand
oaks.
My
entire
life,
I'm
speaking
today,
to
express
my
resentments
towards
the
statements
made
by
council
members,
ed
jones
and
supported
by
a
mission
by
mayor,
claudia
bill
de
la
pena
regarding
renters
and
the
idea
of
two
societies
being
created
in
thousand
oaks.
C
While
I
understand
that
ed
jones
didn't
necessarily
mean
any
disrespect
toward
renters,
his
statements
came
across
as
out
of
touch
and
unfounded.
While
I
may
not
describe
myself
as
someone
who
has
huge
involvement
in
civic
affairs,
I'm
someone
who
likes
to
stay
informed.
I
am
also
registered
to
vote,
and
I
am
also
a
renter
and
have
been
for
the
last
four
years
and
I'll
also
be
exercising
that
vote
in
the
next
election,
as
I
did
in
the
last.
C
What
mr
jones
described
as
something
that
is
hard
for
him
to
get
his
head
around
is
factually
baseless
and
potentially
damaging
to
a
large
group
of
people
who
are
active
in
our
community
registered
to
vote
and
are
also
renters,
additionally,
many
of
which
are
like
me,
who
intend
to
rent
in
thousand
oaks
to
save
money
so
that
we
may
one
day
become
a
homeowner
in
today's
increasingly
unaffordable
housing
market,
something
of
which
thousand
oaks
is
no
stranger
to
the
rent.
To
save.
Excuse
me,
the
the
type
of
person
I'm
describing
is
actually
somebody.
C
C
I
think
it
is
important
that
while
mr
jones
has
every
right
to
remain
with
his
opinion,
as
he
holds
on
the
housing
development
that
he
at
the
very
least,
amend
and
clarify
the
statements
he
made
last
month
to
something
better
than
the
phoned
in
and
baseless
ones
he
provided
with
us
last
month.
C
Lastly,
I'd
also
like
to
thank
councilmember
al
adams
for
providing
statements
on
the
contrary
to
those
made
by
ed
jones,
and
also
for
giving
clarity
and
perspective
to
the
outlandish
and
frankly,
fear-mongering
comparison
of
thousand
oaks
and
santa
monica
purported
by
mayor
bill
de
la
de
la
pena.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
B
D
Thank
you
very
much
good
evening.
Council
members,
my
name
is
patrick
dew
ross,
and
I
wanted
to
speak
to
briefly
address
some
of
the
sentiment
that
I've
witnessed
among
some
of
the
council
members
in
previous
meetings,
as
well
as
the
specific
comments
made
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
that
renters
have
negative
social
societal
implications
here
that
they
would
bring
to
the
city.
So
I
too
have
lived
in
this
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
for
over
30
years.
D
I
was
raised
here,
brought
my
family
back
here
and
now
raising
a
large
family
here
in
the
city.
We
love
it
here.
I
also
work
here,
I'm
a
commercial
real
estate
advisor
and
I
I
advise
many
of
the
biotech
and
life
science
companies
back
in
the
rancho
canelo
district,
as
well
as
other
companies,
employers
here
in
the
city.
D
I
I
want
to
give
you
my
perspective
that
I
disagree
with
those
sentiments,
as
stated
by
the
council
members,
and
particularly
the
comments
made
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I
believe
that
we're
negatively
impacting
our
community
by
not
being
open
to
the
idea
of
new
housing
and
multi-family
development.
I
think
it's
key
to
our
city's
success.
D
I
personally
would
like
to
see
a
lot
of
these
struggling
retail,
centers
and
vacant
lots
that
have
been,
in
some
cases
eyesores
for
many
years,
converted
in
and
beautified
and
made
and
put
into
good
use
I'd
like
to
see
more
people
frequenting
the
restaurants
that
I've
seen
closed
down,
that
haven't
made
it,
and
I
believe
that
young
renters,
first-time
home
buyers,
entry
level
home
buyers
would
benefit
our
community
in
making
some
of
these
new
types
of
amenities
that
many
of
us
here
in
the
city
would
like
to
see.
D
I've
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
gpac,
so
I've
I've
been
involved
for
the
past
18
months
in
the
general
plan
advisory
committee,
and
I
would
tell
you
that
from
every
corner
of
this
community,
I
would
say,
95
plus
maybe
higher
have
been
extraordinarily
vocal
about
their
need
for
more
housing,
and
so
I'd
like
to
challenge.
Maybe
your
thought
process
about
renters
and
and
what
that
will
do
for
our
community
in
working
on
a
daily
basis
with
these
life
science
and
biotech
companies.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are.
D
We
have
had
tremendous
growth
here
in
the
city
for
the
past
two
three
years,
but
the
number
one
challenge
for
us
as
a
community
in
both
keeping
companies
like
amgen
and
growing
companies
like
atara,
bio,
westlake,
bio,
is
their
ability
to
get
young
talent.
They
need
young
talent
and
we
don't
have
the
housing
to
get
them
here,
and
most
of
them
are
tapped
out
and
they're
getting
these
these.
These
people
coming
in
from
west
l.a
and
there's
only
so
much
that
we
can
do
so
if
we
can
provide
more
amenities,
more
housing.
D
I
believe
that
we'll
be
able
to
grow
we'll
visit
community
and
the
one
thing
I
keep
hearing
is
we
don't
want
to
be
the
san
fernando
valley,
the
san
fernando
valley.
None
of
us
do,
I
I
I
don't,
but
the
san
fernando
valley
has
two
million
people
would
be
the
fifth
largest
city
in
the
country
if
it
weren't
part
of
the
city
of
los
angeles,
I
think
most
of
us
are
concerned
about
traffic.
D
B
B
H
Thank
you.
My
name
is
anna
leah.
I
live
in
santa
rosa
valley
and
I'm
25
years
old.
I
attended
thousand
oaks
high
school
and
have
worked
most
of
my
life
in
thousand
oaks.
It
baffles
me
to
hear
some
of
ed
jones
comments
at
the
last
council
meetings.
Last
council
meeting
about
renters
being
a
separate
society
that
he
does
not
care
to
welcome
to
thousand
oaks.
H
I
don't
know
where
we
skipped
a
step
in
thinking
that
most
people
get
started,
getting
started
in
life,
jump
right
to
buying
property
or
that
renters
do
not
care
about
their
community.
Over
the
last
year,
I've
been
looking
to
move
to
thousand
oaks
and
I'm
not
ready
to
buy
a
home
student
loan.
Debt
is
not
what
it
used
to
be
and
many
struggle
to
stay
afloat
with
other
expenses.
H
I
am
not
surprised
by
a
90
year
old
man
who's
clearly
forgotten
what
it's
like
to
exist
before
owning
property,
but
his
discriminatory
comments
aside.
I
am
more
surprised
at
mayor,
claudia
bill
de
la
penna's
defense.
For
him,
she
had
the
opportunity
to
defend
us
as
al
adams
did,
but
instead
chose
to
silence
al
and
condemn,
as
condemn
him
for
his
support
of
us.
H
You
are
literally
renovating
parts
of
this
town
to
bring
life
into
the
community
and
yet
in
condemning
renters
you're,
denying
a
younger
generation
from
experiencing
this
beautiful
town
that
we
have
the
ones
that
will
continue
to
keep
the
city
thriving
by
eventually
deciding
to
put
down
roots
here,
and
I
also
don't
know
where
the
city
council
consumes
its
news
or
gets
its
data,
but
to
say
that
young,
that
renters
or
a
younger
generation
don't
get
involved
in
their
community
or
politics
is
absurd.
H
B
I
I
I
I
Mayor
bill
de
la
pena
fell
silent
when
it
came
to
defending
the
renters
at
the
last
council
meeting,
even
though
only
an
hour
before
then
she
was
celebrating
the
commitment
of
18
year
old
wilbert.
Where
do
you
expect
him
to
live
after
he's
done
with
school?
Will
he
be
able
to
buy
a
home
here?
Ed
jones
makes
that
sound
so
easy.
I
If
he
doesn't
buy,
will
his
commitment
to
his
community
just
bleed
away.
These
are
obviously
dumb
questions,
as
would
ed
jones
assumption
and
claudia's
disregard
to
al's
comments
at
the
end
of
the
last
meeting,
nobody
likes
to
hear
when
they're,
wrong
and
al's
quick
use
of
facts
defeated
her
whole
argument
against
the
development.
I
J
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
cindy
liu
and
I'm
the
founder
of
we
belong
805,
a
grassroots
organization
that
advocates
for
community
access
and
representation
for
disabled
individuals.
I'm
calling
tonight
about
the
general
plan
process
to
date.
I
appreciate
and
recognize
the
months
of
hard
work
and
community
efforts
that
have
gone
into
developing
the
draft
land
use
maps.
However,
I'm
very
concerned
of
the
comprehensive
nature
of
the
process
and
direct
efforts
to
include
the
voices
of
our
disabled,
spanish-speaking
and
other
under-represented
communities
like
our
homebound
senior
citizens.
J
If
representation
access
to
the
process
has
not
been
provided
to
a
sizable
portion
of
our
community,
our
plan
and
the
process
is
not
comprehensive.
It's
exclusive
on
item
number
two:
the
draft
guiding
principles.
We
reference
community
values
and
speak
of
communities
that
are
welcomed
and
embraced.
Yet
we
exclude
the
disabled
community,
approximately
10
percent
of
our
population.
J
Unfortunately,
that
exclusion
was
on
display
on
february
2nd
during
the
land
use,
presentation
myself
and
another
community
member
requested
closed
captioning
and
the
availability
of
an
asl
interpreter.
A
rep
from
raymond
associates
said
closed.
Captioning
would
be
available
the
next
day
on
the
city's
youtube
channel,
with
no
way
to
ask
questions,
participate
in
the
live
polls
or
get
our
questions
answered.
J
To
date,
the
spanish
versions
of
the
land
use
maps
and
the
presentations
are
not
available
on
the
city's
website
and
spanish
is
the
second
most
spoken
language
in
our
community,
representing
roughly
roughly
25
of
our
population.
Again
not
inclusive
or
comprehensive,
we
belong.
805
would
happily
engage
in
good
faith
discussions
and
collaboration
with
our
city
managers
and
city
leaders.
J
We
respectfully
request
the
following:
include
the
disabled
community
in
the
final
version
of
the
guiding
principles,
provide
closed,
captioning,
asl
and
real-time
spanish
translations
at
all
city-related
presentations
and
meetings,
which
is
an
easy
fix
in
the
era
of
zoom
and
madam
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
please
create
an
ad
hoc
council
on
disability
community
inclusion
to
review
the
general
plan.
Since
a
sizable
number
of
community
members
have
been
locked
out
of
the
process
to
date,
it's
urgent
and
the
window
of
opportunity.
To
course
correct,
is
small
for
those
community
members
listening.
J
K
You
good
evening,
lady
mayor
and
members
of
the
city,
council
and
staff.
I
am
sincerely
grateful
to
have
the
opportunity
to
address
you
all
this
evening.
I've
been
in
conversation
in
recent
months
with
jonathan
cerret,
the
cultural
affairs
director
for
the
city
and
out
of
respect
that
somewhat
belatedly.
Perhaps
I
asked
him
beforehand
to
present
to
you
on
my
behalf.
What
is
tantamount
to
an
executive
summary
of
the
undertaken
by
my
company
garagebands,
not
sure
if
you
received
it,
but
in
the
meantime
I'll
proceed,
I'm
sure
jonathan
will
get
it
to
you.
K
I've
been
a
resident
here
within
the
community
for
more
than
30
years,
and
my
first
visit
here
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
was
in
the
early
80s
prior
to
that
I'd
become
aware
of
the
development
here
within
the
eastern
part
of
the
ventura
county,
while
flying
in
and
out
of
oxnard
and
camarillo
airports
in
the
late
70s,
and
during
that
time
I
bought
witness
what
really
can
be
to
the
evolution.
The
transformation
of
the
landscape
below
me.
K
K
They
were
raised
here
from
kindergarten
through
high
school
and
in
that
time
I
was
truly
privileged
to
watch
them
participate
within
the
community
and
so
many
different
activities
not
just
in
school,
but
in
many
other
school
programs
yeah,
including
the
t-ball
and
the
little
league
band
and
choir
flag
football
pop
warner,
nauseam,
youth,
basketball
and
soccer
to
wrap
it
up
there.
I
was
fortunate
as
a
dad
to
participate
with
them,
I'm
proud
to
say
along
the
way.
K
I
was
also
truly
fortunate
to
get
that
knowledge
for
that
and
with
one
of
the
teams
we
won
a
championship,
go
bro.
As
for
the
thousand
oaks
international
festivals,
which
is
what
I'm
dropping
on
you
all.
What
else
should
I
share
with
you
and
my
bona
fides?
If
you
want
to
scan
the
international
movie,
database
you'll
find
me
in
there,
but
I've
been
in
the
arts
and
culture
business
for
over
40
years,
50
years
to
be
precise
and
25
years
ago.
K
As
a
founding
member
of
the
kingsman
shakespeare,
and
during
that
time
I
collaborated
with
canao
valley,
unified
school
district,
developed
a
curriculum
for
the
schools.
I
did
a
film
and
tv
curriculum
for
oaks.
Christian
high
school
I've
worked
with
juvenile
offenders
youth.
I
have
been
working
with
all
my
life.
K
What
I'm
trying
to
do
here
is
introduce
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
for
one
week,
then
two
and
then
perhaps
three
an
international
festival
jonathan,
will
hand
out
later
the
executive
summary.
There
is
more
information,
should
you
so
require
it?
The
most
important
thing
in
the
development
of
this
going
forward
is
a
comprehensive
risk
assessment
plan
which
I'm
diligently
working
on
with
the
appropriate
authorities.
K
The
corporate
social
responsibility
of
thousand
oaks
international
festivals
is
paramount.
To
me
to
embrace
all
aspects
within
the
community
collaborations
with
members
of
the
community
is
absolutely
apparent,
a
paramount
as
well.
The
most
important
thing,
though,
right
now,
is
to
gear
it
towards
the
economic
recovery
of
this
wonderful
little
city
of
ours.
That's
continuing
to
grow.
The
international
festival
will
bring
diverse
revenue
streams
into
the
community.
The
hospitality
industry
will
perhaps
be
the
first
to
notice
it.
K
I
do
expect
hope
for
the
collaboration
of
members
within
the
community,
there's
going
to
be
job
opportunities
for
juniors
and
high
schoolers
high
sc,
juniors
and
seniors
in
high
school
returning
freshmen,
and
I
look
forward
to
developing
this
with
the
members
of
the
community
and
I
look
forward
to
keep
your
fingers
crossed
that
all
of
this
will
come
to
fruition.
K
Is
it
mr.
B
Patton,
mr
patton,
I'm
so
very
sorry,
you're
well
over
your
time
already
and
your
time
has
run
out.
But
we
we
altruism
by
design.
K
B
You
very
much,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
on
this
with
mr
surett
as
well,
because
your
idea
is
really
wonderful.
Thank
you.
So
much
next
up,
we
have
max
and
then
followed
by
carol
shelton
good
evening.
L
Good
evening
and
thank
you
mayor
and
council
members,
I
wanted
to
comment
on
statements
from
council
member
jones
at
the
last
city
council.
L
Yeah
yeah.
I
want
to
comment
on
statements
from
councilmember
jones
at
the
last
meeting
when
criticizing
apartments
proposed
for
thousand
oaks
boulevard.
He
said
I
quote,
I
think
we're
building
two
societies
here:
the
homeowners
who,
as
we
all
know,
take
an
interest
in
civic
life
and
he
went
on
so
it
goes
against
my
thinking
to
all
of
a
sudden
convert
everything
to
apartments
in
this
town.
L
When
council
member
adam,
puts
push
it
back
on
this
statement.
Jones
continued
quote,
I
think
renters
are
fine
people,
I
just
don't
think
they
have
the
same
level
of
communi
community
interest
as
the
homeowners
do.
I
want
to
say
that
I
am
a
lifelong
renter
and
I've
been
heavily
involved
in
my
community.
L
I've
been
active
in
local
political
groups
for
the
past
several
years
and
I'm
the
founder
of
ventura
county
indy,
a
grassroots
group
working
to
end
the
housing
shortage
here
in
ventura
county
many
other
members
of
our
group,
which
is
over
500
members
strong,
are
also
renters.
We
do
this
because
we
want
the
best
for
our
community.
L
My
father,
an
argentinian
immigrant,
was
also
a
lifelong
renter
and
he's
also
been
active
in
his
community,
organizing
fellow
latinos,
for
political
causes
in
california,
that
is,
he
was
a
lifelong
renter
until
he
purchased
a
home
in
2005.
He
then
foreclosed
on
in
the
2009
financial
crisis
and
he's
gladly
returned
to
renting.
Ever
since.
L
As
an
economist,
I
can
tell
you
that
access
to
rental
housing
isn't
just
more
inclusive
to
more
diverse
types
of
residents,
especially
those
who
struggle
to
afford
down
payments.
It's
also
good
for
the
economy.
Investing
the
bulk
of
one's
net
worth
in
a
single
volatile
asset
is
really
good.
Financial
advice
and
people
need
housing
options
that
don't
demand
that
rental
housing
offers
also
offers
more
flexible
housing
to
young
people
who
are
vital
to
entrepreneurship
and
new
industries.
L
This
is
all
somewhat
tangential
to
the
project
that
was
discussed
at
the
last
meeting,
which
didn't
reduce
home
ownership
by
a
single
home.
That
project
provided
dense,
infill
housing,
which
is
good
for
the
environment
and
good
for
affordability,
and
I
hope
you
move
to
approve
its
development
quickly.
L
B
A
Good
evening
my
name
is
carol
shelton
and
I
have
lived
in
thousand
oaks
for
the
last
40
years.
I
love
and
support
two
individuals
who
have
a
dual
diagnosis
of
idd
or
intellectual
and
developmental
disability
and
mental
illness.
While
this
is
a
very
complicated
topic,
tonight's
comments
center
around
crisis
response
and
thousand
oaks,
though
the
whole
county
is
impacted.
My
story
is
not
an
isolated
issue.
There
are
other
families
just
like
mine.
This
was
taken
verbatim
from
the
ventura
county,
behavioral
health
website,
ventura,
county
behavioral
health
provides
crisis,
intervention
services
for
psychiatric
emergencies.
A
The
crisis
team
operates
24
hours
per
day,
seven
days
per
week
and
is
accessed
by
the
entire
community.
This
is
not
what
happens
again.
I
am
speaking
about
families
of
individuals
with
idg
and
mental
health
disorders.
Our
families
are
often
instructed
to
contact
the
sheriff's
department
or
to
take
our
loved
ones
to
the
er.
We
must
rely
on
the
ventura
county,
sheriff's
department
or
the
er
during
psychiatric
emergencies.
This
places
our
families
and
their
loved
ones
at
risk.
A
In
the
end,
ventura
county,
behavioral,
health
or
vcbh
is
consulted,
but
only
after
pressure
is
exerted
by
the
hospital
or
the
deputies
responding.
This
must
change
vcbh
and
its
crisis
team
categorically
deny
access
to
a
service
that
is
open
to
the
entire
community.
What
if
they
categorically
denied
access
to
seniors
or
to
marginalized
communities?
Would
that
be
acceptable?
A
California
and
its
legislature
made
a
promise
to
individuals
with
igd
and
their
families
to
ensure
that
they
would
have
access
to
an
array
of
support
services
and
supports
that
would
allow
them
to
live
in
the
community,
as
is
their
right.
Ventura
county
behavioral
health
must
hold
up
its
end
of
this
promise
by
either
serving
these
individuals
or
contracting
this
out.
A
I
bring
this
before
our
council,
because
each
call
to
a
family,
like
mine,
keeps
our
officers
off
the
street
the
cit
officers
that
respond
are
not
equipped,
nor
should
they
be
to
make
these
complicated
decisions
in
isolation
for
individuals
with
igd
and
mental
illness.
This
places
an
undue
burden
on
the
sheriff's
department.
A
I
have
been
advocating
before
the
ventura
county
behavioral
health
board,
and
it
is
clear
they
are
not
interested
in
addressing
the
crisis
response
inequities.
It
is
my
sincere
hope
that
this
starts
a
conversation
that
affects
change.
Will
this
council
bring
this
issue
on
behalf
of
families
like
mine?
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
Centered
around
equity
may
seem
abstract
for
historically
underrepresented
populations,
however,
as
well
as
those
committed
to
supporting
them,
the
concept
of
equity
is
critically
important.
Our
general
plans
guiding
principles
state
the
city's
commitment
to
being
an
inclusive
and
welcoming
community.
In
the
july
2020
gpac
session.
The
city's
general
plan
consultant
said
in
regard
to
equity.
This
is
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
in
the
general
plan.
A
A
How
will
we
ensure
enough
housing
that
is
affordable
so
that
we
no
longer
have
a
waiting
list
of
3
000
households
at
many
mansions?
Is
our
burgeoning
low-income
senior
population
being
considered?
Are
we
including
community
land
trusts
and
other
innovative
solutions
in
the
mix
of
developing
more
housing?
A
Many
in
this
community
have
watched
or
been
involved
in
the
advocacy
around
vulnerable
populations
in
the
kaneo
valley,
unified
school
district.
In
recent
years,
numerous
groups
are
engaged
in
important
work
for
student
groups
such
as
bipoc
differently,
abled
and
lgbtq,
plus
these
advocates
organized
because
the
needs
of
certain
groups
weren't
being
met
when
these
voices
are
heard
and
ultimately
included.
Systems
like
the
school
district
or
city
government
ideally
begin
to
adapt
and
make
changes
to
ensure
they're,
modifying
or
designing
services
to
meet
the
needs
of
all
students
or
residents.
A
A
Good
evening,
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
janet
sher
and
I
don't
know
why.
I'm
on
a
phone,
because
I.
A
A
A
Having
residents
right
next
to
the
civic
arts
plaza
would
provide
potential
audience
members
who
could
seek
out
entertainment
at
the
bank
of
romero
art
center
without
having
to
drive
elsewhere.
Development
on
the
property
would
be
an
opportunity
to
move
forward
with
the
development
of
a
downtown
centered
around
the
theaters.
A
This
would
help
to
create
a
walkable
destination
where
people
could
come
for
an
evening.
Excuse
me
for
dinner
coffee.
They
could
see
a
show
they
could
have
a
drink
afterwards,
and
all
of
this
by
parking
once
and
walking
around
the
connection
between
the
lakes
and
the
civil
gods
plaza
could
be
a
place
where
we
could
feature
public
art.
A
B
Well,
we
need
to
thank
you,
mr
for
doing
all
the
things
that
you
have
done
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
including
this
chamber
in
which
I'm
sitting
right
now
is
named
after
you
and
your
husband.
So
thank
you
very
much.
B
D
Sure
sure,
thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
pena.
Just
a
few
follow-up
comments.
Our
first
speaker
talked
about
the
senior
adult
master
plan.
I
really
encourage
participation
in
that
and
you
can
find
that
up
on
our
on
our
website
at
teox.org
seniors
the
comments
regarding
accessibility
and
the
general
plan
staff
has
met
with
with
the
speaker
on
two
occasions
and
continues
to
make
refinements
to
the
process
all
future
meetings.
The
request
came
that
evening
for
closed
captioning
and
we
are
now
able
to
provide
that
at
all
subsequent
meetings.
D
So
we've
addressed
that
issue
and
we'll
continue
to
meet
and
engage
with
with
her
and
others
in
order
to
find
new
opportunities
to
make
the
process
more
inclusive
and
staff's
very
involved
in
that,
and
I
believe
that's
it
for
my
follow-up
comments.
B
What
about
what
mr
patton
said
regarding
regarding
the
the
work
or
the
project
that
he's
working
on
with
for
the
arts.
D
B
N
All
right,
I
was
going
to
comment
briefly
if
I
may,
because
my
name
I
believe
was
mentioned-
I
I
would
just
like
to
tell
ryan
patricia
anna
lee
and
cody
that
I'm
not
opposed
to
renters
matamira.
N
I
think
you
and
I
both
when
we
had
the
matter
last
week
of
the
what
we
call
the
christmas
tree
or
the
pumpkin
patch
a
lot
on
thousands
boulevard
expressed
the
idea
that
it'd
be
better
if
we
could
have
condos
rather
than
apartments,
and
I
made
the
statement
that
I
didn't
think
that
renters
were
as
involved
based
on
many
years
of
campaigning
and
trying
to
because
of
experience
of
not
finding
many
registered
voters
in
apartments.
N
Perhaps
I
drew
too
broad
a
conclusion
about
whether
they
are
involved
in
the
community
or
not,
because
I
felt
if
they
weren't
registered,
they
couldn't
vote
for
city
council
or
park
board
or
school
board
or
local
bond
issues.
N
I
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
the
remarks
of
ryan
patricia
annalny
and
cody,
and
if,
if
that's
true
I
mean
I
haven't,
made
an
experiment
lately,
but
if
they
are
involved
and
they
do
concern,
are
they
are
concerned
about
the
character
of
our
community?
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
that.
N
N
And
then
you
have
the
ability
to
deduct
that
from
your
income
tax,
and
you
establish
that
equity
that
you
could
allow
you
to
sell
that
unit
at
some
point
in
time
and
then
perhaps
have
the
damn
down
payment
for
a
single-family
detached
unit.
Maybe
that's
not
people's
goal,
but
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I'm
not
young,
but
I'm
not
out
of
touch.
N
For
the
two
reasons
I
just
mentioned:
you're
developing
equity-
that
you
could
later
turn
into
a
down
payment
in
the
house.
And
secondly,
I
still
have
a
feeling
that
you're
more
likely
to
put
down
roots
here
and
become
involved.
But
I
would
welcome
any
of
these
for
or
if
there
were
more
to
contact
me
just
call
the
city,
because
I'd
love
to
talk
to
you.
Thank.
B
N
B
I'm
I'm
sorry
due
to
brown
act,
I
have
been
advised.
We
need
to
keep
it
short,
and
so
we
will.
We
will
keep.
It
short
just
wanted
to
also
clarify
that
I
wasn't
defending
your
statements
last
time.
I
was
simply
trying
to
stick
to
the
council
norms
where
council
members
need
to
refrain
from
criticizing
one
another,
because
politics
is
a
blood
sport
in
washington,
but
we
don't
want
to
do
this
here
in
thousand
oaks.
So
that
is
why
I
interrupted
and
needed
to
make
sure
that
our
discussion
was
not
getting
out
of
hand.
B
So
I
hope
that
that
that
it
will,
it
is
understood,
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
with
that
we
will
go
to.
As
I
said,
consent
calendar.
Are
there
any
items
that
need
to
be
discussed
separately.
F
Madam
mayor
I'd
moved
that
we
passed
the
consent
calendar.
Thank
you.
B
N
Going
to
be
very
brief,
I
just
wonder
my
wife
and
I
and
others
that
I
know
have
had
season
tickets
for
the
your
your
in
2019
2020.
Of
course,
you
weren't
able
to
complete
the
shows
in
the
spring
of
2020,
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
jonathan
the
people
that
had
those
season
tickets
last
year
and
have
them
again
this
year.
What
how
are
are
those
going
to
be
disposed
of
when
we
are
able,
hopefully
to
get
the
theater
open
again.
C
Mr
jones,
the
the
dates
for
the
shows
are
continually
being
rescheduled,
so,
as
those
dates
are
reconfirmed,
then
emails
and
phone
calls
are
being
are
going
out
to
those
ticket
holders
to
notify
them
of
the
changes.
And
then
those
ticket
holders
are
being
given
options
if
they
are
able
to
proceed
and,
and
then
their
tickets,
that
they've
already
been
holding
will
still
be
valid.
C
But
if
they're
unable
to
attend,
then
we
have
different
options
for
them
as
well.
N
Thank
you
and
on
item
7c
noted
that,
with
these
painting
contracts,
we
had
a
lot
of
people
on
the
list
that
are
from
various
cities
around.
N
When
I
was
with
the
county,
we
had
a
policy
if
we
had
work
to
end
the
service
piggyback
on
what
the
gentleman
said
last
two
weeks
ago
about
this
project
that
we
are
in
the
way
of
improving
there
at
the
christmas
tree
lot.
He
wanted
to
see
if
we
would
use
local
people
in
that
project
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
any
policy
or
if
we
might
consider
a
policy
of
when
we
have
say
matters
like
the
the
painting
list
that
I
saw
in
the
packet.
N
If
we
would
have
a
policy
might
give
a
certain
percentage
of
preference
for
local
contractors.
Would
somebody
care
to
answer
that.
H
Hi
councilmember
jones-
I
just
wanted
to
first
point
out
that
we
went
through
a
request
for
proposals
and
every
single
company
painting
contractor
that
submitted.
A
proposal
is
being
included
in
this
item
tonight.
So
every
single
one
of
the
ones
that
apply
to
our
request
for
proposals
we're
issuing
a
contract
with
city
council
approval
tonight
we
do
currently
have
a
local
preference
program
that
is
specific
in
nature
to
equipment
purchases
where
those
vendors
do
receive
a
discount
on
those
equipment
bids.
H
B
A
F
B
O
This
discussion
is
in
regards
to
the
collection
of
the
city's
wastewater
utility
service
charges
being
built
via
via
the
ventura
county,
secured
property
tax
role
under
state
law.
Municipal
sewer
districts
have
the
legal
authority
to
place
wastewater
service
charges
on
the
county's
property
tax
roll.
The
city
first
became
involved
in
providing
wastewater
service
to
our
residents
in
the
mid-1960s
in
1966.
O
The
city-operated
wastewater
utility
is
a
public
enterprise
managed
by
the
public
works
department
with
utility
billing
and
customer
service
managed
by
the
finance
department.
The
city's
wastewater
system
provides
sewer
service
to
over
38
000
wastewater
customers
and
of
this
over
36
000
wastewater
accounts
are
single
family
residential
customers
and
the
remaining
accounts
are
either
commercial
or
multi-family.
Residential
wastewater
service
charges
are
the
responsibility
of
the
property
owner
and
currently,
customers
are
issued
bi-monthly
bills
directly
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
O
The
current
rate
for
a
single-family
residential
property
inside
city
limits
it's
59.90
every
other
month
of
this
of
the
single-family
residential
properties.
Approximately
16
000
accounts
are
also
part
of
the
city's
water
utility
service
billing.
Currently,
all
properties
connected
to
the
city
sewer
system
receive
a
bill
directly
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
O
So,
although
the
city
has
historically
built
sewer
service
charges
in-house,
we
are
allowed
the
option
to
collect
those
fees
by
way
of
direct
assessment.
Examples
of
direct
assessments
that
could
appear
on
a
property
tax
role
include
landscape
maintenance
fees,
flood
control,
trash
service,
sewer
service,
sidewalk,
repair
and
lighting
assessments.
O
Some
of
our
local
agencies
that
collect
wastewater
service
charges
via
ventura
county
direct
assessment
include
triumphal
sanitation,
district
city
of
simi
valley,
sanitation,
ohio
valley,
sanitation
and
the
ventura
county.
Water
works
district
16,
which
is
pyruv
the
county
of
ventura,
currently
charges
21
cents
per
parcel
for
a
direct
assessment
and
21
dollars
per
parcel
for
any
mid-year
corrections.
O
Collecting
single-family
residential
wastewater
charges
on
the
county,
property
tax
roll
would
cost
the
city
approximately
seventy
seven
hundred
dollars
per
year.
Wastewater
service
charges
are
more
likely
to
change
mid-year
at
a
commercial
or
multi-family
residential
property
than
at
a
single-family
residential
property.
So
to
avoid
mid-year
correction
charges,
commercial
and
multi-family
accounts
could
remain
a
part
of
the
in-house
city
utility
billing
system.
O
Collecting
wastewater
service
charges
on
the
ventura
county
property
tax
roll
would
result
in
a
significant
cost
savings
for
the
city
and
create
efficiency
for
the
customers
we
serve.
The
city
would
save
over
70
000
a
year
in
postage
and
printing
materials
and
would
also
save
over
3
200
hours
in
staff.
Time
spent
processing
bills
and
performing
account
maintenance.
O
Instead
of
printing
issuing
and
processing
payments
for
over
36
000
bi-monthly
residential
customers,
the
county
would
add
the
total
annual
wastewater
service
charges
to
the
price
to
the
parcels.
Property
tax
bill
residents
would
no
longer
need
to
initiate
a
request
to
start
or
stop
wastewater
service,
and
residents
would
no
longer
have
to
worry
about
submitting
payment
directly
to
the
city
six
times
per
year.
O
Staff
recommends
that
council
set
april
13th
as
the
public
hearing
date
for
residential
wastewater
service
rate
collection
via
direct
assessment
on
the
ventura
county,
secured
property
tax
role
staff,
including
jamie
vasquarino,
finance
director
and
cliff
finley
public
works
director
are
available.
Should
you
have
any
questions.
B
G
Well,
thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Ms
johnson.
That's
a
wonderful
savings
to
the
city
makes
it
more
convenient,
attaching
it
to
the
property
tax.
70
000
is
a
nice
amount
of
money
to
save,
for
the
city
so
can
be
put
to
other
services
within
the
city.
My
question
to
you
is
the
following:
if
we
have
someone
who
has
a
home
with
one
restroom
and
two
people
living
there,
they
would
be
paying
the
same
amount
monthly
for
wastewater.
As
someone
who
has
five
bathrooms
and
10
people
living
in
the
home
is
that
correct.
G
Now
my
sense
of
fairness
is
such
that.
Why
should
people
two
people
be
paying
the
same
wastewater
rate
as
someone
who
has
five
or
ten
people
in
the
house?
As
I
look
at
other
cities,
some
do
it
as
a
percentage
of
the
amount
of
water
drinking
water
that
comes
into
the
house
is
assumed
to
go
into
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
It's
done
as
a
pro-rated
basis.
G
That,
to
me,
is
more
equitable,
given
that
the
household
of
five
or
ten
people
would
consume
more
water,
creating
more
wastewater
as
compared
to
a
homeowner
with
two
people
within
the
residence
and
my
sense
of
fairness
and
equity,
which
is
a
common
word
being
thrown
around
now.
I
would
think
that
the
pro-rated
basis,
based
on
how
much
drinking
water
comes
into
the
house
would
be
a
better
way
to
go.
What's
your
thoughts
on
something
like
that.
O
So
there's
a
few
reasons:
our
residential
wastewater
rates
are
not
based
on
water
use
or
the
number
of
people
in
a
household.
We
want
to
charge
for
water
that
goes
into
the
wastewater
system
and
that's
indoor
use
versus
outdoor
use.
To
do
this,
we
would
need
to
have
either
flow
monitors
on
each
property
or,
as
you
said,
we
would
need
to
know
every
customer's
water
use.
O
Although
nearly
90
percent
of
the
city
is
a
wastewater
customer.
Only
around
40
percent
are
city
water
customers.
So,
unfortunately,
at
this
time
we
don't
have
the
data.
Also,
estimates
of
indoor
water
use
could
be
done
based
on
winter
average,
but
given
our
lovely
weather
here
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
water
use
doesn't
always
vary
in
winter
months
and
additionally,
when
we
look
at
household
side,
dense
household
size
density
in
thousand
oaks,
it
appears
to
be
mostly
similar,
so
neighborhoods
do
vary
in
size
and
and
type
in
thousand
oaks.
O
But
overall
the
average
amongst
the
36
000
single
family
residential
accounts
is
cost
effective
and
equitable
amongst
the
customer
class.
O
Lastly,
the
the
current
cost
of
service
study,
which
council
adopted,
fall
2019
looked
at
rates
amongst
various
customer
types.
We
we
are
required
by
law
to
conduct
a
cost
of
service
study
every
10
years,
but
the
city
proactively
conducts
one
every
five
to
six
years
and
we
will
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
changes
to
the
rate
structure
during
our
next
cost
of
service
study
and
perhaps
technology
or
data
exchange.
Improvements
may
allow
for
a
different
methodology.
Like
you
mentioned,.
G
I
appreciate
that
consideration.
What
I'm
considering
here
at
this
point
is
our
city
staff
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
moving
over
to
a
more
equitable
distribution
of
the
wastewater
costs.
Yes,
I
understand
that
our
city
water-
we
only
have
access
to
that
data
directly.
G
So
when
what
you
say,
miss
johnson,
that's
going
to
come
up
for
discussion
in
the
future,
we
have
some
numbers
and
some
potential
availability,
because
I'm
still
having
a
hard
time
justifying
a
household
of
two
people
paying
the
same
amount
of
wastewater
as
someone
who
has
a
household
of
10
people,
regardless
of
the
number
of
people
and
I'm
not
looking
at
a
people
count.
I'm
just
looking
at
a
water
consumption
count
to
be
the
driving
force
in
this
and
and
move
down
that
avenue.
G
B
A
M
G
B
P
I
am
here
tonight
with
tom
hair
crpd
administrator
to
present
the
next
steps
in
the
teen
and
global
community
center
capital
improvements
project,
a
quick
overview
of
what
we
will
be
discussing
tonight.
We
will
provide
a
brief
recap
of
the
project's
background,
an
overview
of
the
activities
provided
at
both
centers,
a
description
of
the
completed
project
plans,
the
estimated
construction
timeline
and
the
city
grant
agreement.
P
P
Crpd
owns
the
land
while
the
city
owns
and
maintains
the
buildings
over
this
30-year
cooperative
history.
Both
facilities
have
been
highly
used,
their
activities
expanding
and
evolving,
but
with
neither
building
receiving
a
major
renovation
since
they
opened
in
the
early
2000s,
the
city
and
crpd
envisioned
expanding
the
teen
center
with
a
full-size
gym
that
would
be
utilized
by
both
the
teen
and
adult
populations.
P
However,
the
project
was
put
on
hold
in
2008
due
to
the
financial
impacts
of
the
great
recession
during
the
last
capital
improvement
budget
process
for
the
fiscal
years,
2019
through
2021
city
and
cerpd
staff,
re-evaluated
the
scope
of
the
gym
expansion
project,
taking
into
consideration
the
addition
of
boys
and
girls
club
gyms,
which
had
opened
in
the
city
since
2008.,
while
evaluating
citywide
needs.
Crpd
staff
solicited
feedback
from
patrons
teen
and
senior
advisory
councils
and
center
staff
from
those
efforts,
crpd
staff
reimagined
a
new
conceptual
plan
for
improvement
at
both
locations.
P
P
Q
Hey
thanks
carrie
for
for
doing
that.
The
introduction
there
for
the
project
and
really
happy
to
be
here
mayor
bill
de
la
pena
and
the
rest
of
the
council
members
and,
as
you
well
know,
we've
had
many
successful
relationships
between
the
canary
record
park
district
and
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
over
the
years
and
the
teen
center
and
the
global
adult
center
are
just
some
great
examples
of
that.
Q
So
I
just
want
to
go
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
on
what
it
means
and
what
the
operations
and
activities
are
at
the
global
center
and
the
teen
center.
So
let's
look
at
the
global
center,
actually
pre-gates
the
the
building.
That's
there
at
the
canal,
creek
north.
The
original
partnership
was
in
1975
on
canelo
school
road.
Q
You
know
crossing
the
lakes
there,
but
due
to
the
dramatic
popularity
and
the
growth
that
had
happened,
you
know
they
said
hey,
let's
move
to
a
new
location,
so
that's
how
they
found
the
canal
creek
north
complex.
Q
Q
So
let's
just
talk
about
like
what
happens
or
a
pre
pandemic
of
the
global
center.
Just
tell
you
how
popular
it
is
we
get
about
over
16
000
patrons
per
month
at
that
place,
it's
a
really
hop
in
place
out
there.
So
many
classes,
workshops
and
trips
and
special
events
and
of
course,
bingo
happens
there
on
a
regular
basis,
which
everybody
absolutely
loves.
You
can't
mess
with
their
bingo
and
one
of
the
more
popular
things
we
have
out
there,
which
serves
the
community
greatly,
is
the
quineo
senior
volunteer
program.
Q
We
have
about
a
thousand
volunteers
that
provide
about
a
quarter
million
dollar
quarter
million
hours.
Excuse
me
quarter
million
hours
of
volunteer
work
for
many
different
organizations
throughout
the
the
community.
So
it's
a
really
it's
a
it's
an
excellent
place
and
love
having
that
in
our
community.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
Q
So
the
teen
center,
the
goal
was
always,
and
it
continues
to
be
that
we're
always
looking
for
positive
alternatives
for
teens
for
their
leisure
activities.
So
we
figure
if
we
give
them
something
good
to
do,
that.
They'll
stay
out
of
trouble,
so
we
have
over
9
000
patrons
per
month
there
you
have
pre-co
bid,
and
similarly
we
offer
lots
of
classes,
workshops
and
sports
leagues
and
many
exciting
excursions
and,
of
course,
the
fantastic
dances
that
they
have
there.
Q
We
work
very
closely
with
the
canada
valley,
unified
school
district
and
their
teachers
and
principals
and
administrators
to
figure
out
what's
the
best
way,
to
incorporate
the
teens
into
the
community.
We're
very
thankful
for
this
facility.
That's
been
around,
like
kerry,
said
over
a
little
over
30
years,
because
this
is
definitely
an
investment
in
the
future
of
the
leaders
of
our
community
that
will
help
grow
and
shape
and
become
important,
important
members
of
our
community.
Okay,
next
slide
kerry.
Q
So
now
for
the
project
you
know,
kerry
had
mentioned
before,
and
it's
worth
noting
again
that
the
project
with
it
wasn't
just
something
was
just
staff.
We
got
quite
a
bit
of
input
from
the
seniors
and
from
the
teens
and
from
the
advisory
councils
that
they
have
on
what
should
be
happening
here.
First
of
all,
you
know
we're
going
to
tell
you
about
what's
not
shown
on
this
plan.
This
is
this.
Q
Is
the
plan
for
the
backyard,
but,
what's
not
shown,
is
over
at
the
global
community
center
we're
doing
some
interior
renovations
to
the
the
restrooms
to
improve
the
efficiency
and
the
accessibility?
There's
gonna
be
a
shaded
fitness
area
out
in
the
back.
That's
gonna
replace
the
putting
green
and
we're
also
gonna
renovate
the
horseshoe
pit
area
for
usability
and
better
better
viewing,
also
not
shown
on
this
as
at
over
the
teen
center.
Q
It's
also
that
there's
very
similar
improvements
there
there
we're
going
to
refresh
and
renew
the
restrooms
there
we're
going
to
renovate
the
kitchen
in
some
storage
areas.
It's
also
very,
very
important
to
note
that
what
other
the
facilities
that
the
teen
center,
when
not
in
use
by
the
teens,
are
used
by
the
seniors.
So
it's
a
dual
use
facility
that
gets
well
used
throughout
the
whole
day.
You
know
throughout
throughout
the
whole
year,
not
just
just
for
teens
during
during
the
evenings
and
off
school
hours.
Q
Q
If
you
go
to
area
number
five
which
carries
rolling
her
mouse
over
right,
there,
that's
a
stage
with
shade
sales
with
some
or
we
can
have
like
outdoor
concerts
with
like
something
like
the
battle
of
the
bands
and
also
with
the
flexible
seating
areas.
So
it
could
people
could
be
seated.
People
can
be
standing
that
just
depends
on
what
what
can
happen
at
that
stage.
Let's
go
over
to
area
number
eight,
which
looks
like
a
basketball
court,
but
it's
actually
a
multi-use
court.
Q
There's
gonna
be
basketball,
volleyball
football
pickleball.
It's
also
a
space
for
those
large
events.
So
if
there
is
a
big
big
band
out
there
and
we
could
use
that
area
for
more
more
seating
or
a
standing
room,
only
area
for
the
band
area-
number
nine
is
an
alternative
gaming
area,
we're
calling
it
yeah.
So
it's
got
like
flexible
elements
you
can
move
in
and
out,
like
ping
pong
tables
or
corn
hole.
Q
So
that
should
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
you
know
we
could
change
change
it
depending
upon
what
the
kids
want
area
number
is
15.,
there's
a
couple
different
areas
there,
where
the
the
outdoor
kitchen
tables,
so
we
have
some,
we
can
teach
some
classes
like
cooking
classes
or
we
could,
you
know,
use
it
for
our
barbecues
or
for
our
special
events
that
we
have
and
then
over
at
area
19
in
the
upper
left.
Q
There
is
our
state
plaza,
which
is
very
new
and
unique
urban
skate
elements
that
will
be
there.
It
will
supplement
the
existing
skate
park
that
we
have
at
orchard
community
center
and
then
the
bike
slash
scooter,
slash,
skate
area,
we
have
at
sockwood
trails
community
park
and
then
on
area
number
20,
which
is
just
you
see,
long
and
linear.
Q
This
is
some
one
of
our
art
opportunities
that
we're
going
to
have
so
some
artwork
there
that
will
be
inspired
by
the
teens
and
so
maybe
someone's
gonna
be
able
to
show
off
their
artistic
abilities
there.
Okay
next
slide
carrie.
Q
And
so
now
with
that,
so
it's
gonna
be
a
wonderful
project.
If
we're
successful
tonight
and
getting
the
the
grant
approved
by
the
city
council
and
then
next
week
by
the
canada
wrecking
park
district
board,
we're
moving
into
bidding
and
pre-construction
activities
for
the
next
few
months.
We're
looking
for
construction
to
start
in
the
summer
and
complete
in
early
2022,
and
then
that
will
be
the
big
party,
hopefully
in
spring
march
of
2022,
and
we
promised
the
first
five
cheeseburgers
will
go
to
the
council
members.
Q
If
you
approve
this
grant,
I
just
want
to
say
hey
thanks
again
to
not
just
this
council,
but
the
prior
councils
and
park
district
boards
that
had
the
the
foresight
to
partner
on
these
incredible
and
important
community
facilities
that
we
have
in
our
community.
It
just
just
makes
our
quality
of
life
in
our
community.
What
it
is
today-
and
I
do
I
want
to
thank
also
the
current
council
and
our
crpd
board
of
directors-
for
continuing
to
look
for
opportunities
to
expand
recreation
for
the
teen
and
seniors
by
considering
this
grant
agreement.
P
P
In
order
for
crpd
to
initiate
the
construction
phase
of
the
project,
the
following
actions
are
being
recommended
tonight
to
approve
the
teen
center
and
global
center
capital
improvements,
grant
agreement
between
the
city
and
crpd
to
authorize
the
expenditure
of
2.7
million
for
the
construction
phase,
to
approve
the
project,
design,
plans,
specifications
and
working
details
for
the
project
and
to
delegate
authority
to
the
city
engineer
to
approve
changes
through
bid
agenda,
work,
directives
and
change
orders,
and
with
that
we
are
both
available
for
any
questions.
Council
may
have.
B
M
B
C
Just
echo
mr
mcnamee's
comments:
the
alex
fiore
teen
center
and
the
global
adult
community
center,
just
fantastic
parts
of
our
community
that
make
thousand
oaks
the
great
city
that
it
is,
and
I
can
tell
you
my
daughters
spent
many
many
hours
at
the
teen
center
when
and
when
they
were
in
middle
school.
They
went
to
all
the
dances
and
it
really
give
kids
all
across
the
canelo
valley
the
ability
to
meet
with
each
other
and
share
and
and
learn,
learn
things
about
kids
from
different
socioeconomic
backgrounds.
C
And
I
think
that's
that's
an
important
thing
and
I'm
I
really
like
the
emphasis
on
the
outdoor
project
that's
being
built.
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
wonderful
and
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
B
Certainly
we
will
hear
from
mr
jones
and
then
you
can
make
the
motion,
mr
adam
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
jones.
N
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
echo
what
the
two
previous
council
members
said
seems
like
old
time
for
me
to
see
tom
here,
making
a
presentation
because
of
my
stint
with
him
on
the
park
district
and
I'd
just
like
to
echo
what
he
said.
I
don't
know
of
a
community
that
has
a
better
relationship
between
the
park
system
and
the
city
than
we
do
and
it's
resulted
in
overshifting
parks
and
you
know
just
a
marvelous
atmosphere
here
for
our
residents.
B
Before
mr
adam
makes
his
motion,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it
is
absolutely
wonderful
and
it
is
a
relief
to
see
that
we
have
such
good
relationships
with
our
partner
agencies
and
a
crpd
is
one
of
them,
and
we
have
always
worked
quite
well
in
concert
with
them
and
the
board,
and
when
you
have
good
relationships,
good
things
happen.
F
You
thank
you,
madam
mayor
yeah.
Let
me
jump
on
the
the
train
here.
It's
this
is
one
of
the
the
projects
that
we're
spending.
You
know
quite
a
bit
of
money,
but
this
is
one
of
the
locations
that
gets
more
use
of
just
about
any
public
project.
We
have
in
town
set
aside
the
roads
and
all
that,
but
we
have
so
many
people
who
enjoy
this
location
if
we
can
do
anything
to
burnish
our
crown
jewels
here,
I'm
all
for
it.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
council
member
adam.
C
A
C
G
B
5-0
excellent.
Thank
you
now,
our
last
item
of
the
evening.
I
believe
it
is
yes
9c
and
that
deals
with
residential
capacity
allocation
for
the
area
known
as
the
lakes,
and
for
that
we
will
go
to
steve
kearns
our
planning
division
manager
and
then
also
later
on
available
for
questions
will
be
our
community
development
director
calvin
parker
good
evening.
Mr.
B
R
R
R
The
for
brief
background,
this
development
site
is
part
of
specific
kind
of
11,
which
is
a
civic
center
civic
center
specific
plan.
This
original
concept
was
adopted
in
1989,
and
this
area
of
the
site
at
the
lakes
was
always
contemplated
for
development.
Initially
it
was
a
hotel
and
that's
subsequently
changed
to
an
imax
theater
and
obviously
neither
one
of
those
projects
moved
forward
and
before
you
this
evening
is
the
proposed
apartment
project
in
2004,
an
amendment
number
two
to
the
specific
plan
and
a
development
permit
approved
the
current
existing
48
000
square
foot
lakes
development.
R
This
was
most
recently
amended
in
2008,
and
the
amendment
incorporated
additional
retail
and
restaurant
uses
for
the
site,
and
if
this
project
is
goes
forward,
an
amendment
to
this
existing
dda
would
be
required
and
negotiation
between
the
city
and
the
developer
would
occur.
At
that
point,.
R
Now
this
area
is
part
of
the
downtown
core
master
plan.
The
downtown
core
is
effectively
from
urge
road
to
canada,
school
road.
It
involves
about
60
acres
of
land,
the
master
plan
established
development
standards
and
policies
for
activation
of
this
area
to
create
a
downtown
core
new
living
units
were
contemplated
as
part
of
this.
This
area,
including
the
the
soon
to
come
online
1710
project
of
the
west
end
of
the
court.
R
As
a
subset
to
the
campus
downtown
core
masterclass,
there's
a
campus
master
plan
that
was
endorsed
by
city
council
in
2019,
this
incorporated
main
street
concept,
which
includes
a
pedestrian
vehicular
main
street
traversing,
the
campus
civic
plaza
and
connecting
the
lakes
property,
and
this
is
all
intended
to
activate
the
campus
frontage
and
provide
kind
of
connectivity
between
developments
now
in
order
to
allocate
residential
capacity.
This
project
a
change
in
the
general
plan
alignment
designation
is
necessary.
R
The
commercial
residential
designation
has
a
maximum
capacity
for
residential
units
of
30
units
per
acre,
so
the
allocation
will
be
based
on
the
overall
site.
This
is
one
parcel.
This
is
not
multiple
parcels
and
just
with,
as
with
all
of
our
mixed
use
projects,
we
calculated
based
on
the
overall
acreage
times
the
maximum
capacity
for
that
designation,
which
in
this
case
would
be
228
units
which
again,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
project
is
requested
165
units,
so
it
results
in
an
over
allocation
of
63
units.
R
R
So
the
pre-screening
process
is
necessary
as
prerequisite
for
measuring
allocation
union
allocation,
and
it
evaluates
projects
on
an
established
criteria
which
was
recently
revised
and
paired
back
a
little
in
december
of
2020,
and
it
brought
it
back
to
me
and
being
more
of
a
high
level
use
of
land
evaluation.
R
Whether
or
not
the
project
has
potential
and
that
city
council
wants
to
see
it
vetted
further
through
the
development
review
process
and
detailed
design
is
provided
through
that
formal
application
review
process,
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
only
a
very
preliminary
review
of
the
land
use
here
by
this
stage.
R
So
that
being
said,
approval
of
a
pre-screen
does
not
mean
a
project.
Disapproved
doesn't
mean
that
city
council
is
endorsing
the
project.
It's
just
saying
that
they,
they
think
it
has
potential
and
should
be
looked
at
further,
and
it
requires
the
applicant
to
provide
the
formal
applications
to
see
within
a
one
year
period.
R
So
the
key
considerations
in
the
pre-screening
resolution
are
the
arena
numbers.
The
regional
housing
needs
assessment.
Our
contribution
for
the
next
cycle
from
2021
to
2029
is
22
615
units.
This
will
probably
provide
165
units
towards
that
allocation
requirement.
R
R
R
So
if
city
council
allocates
the
units
at
that
point,
they
go
into
the
pre-application
process,
followed
by
formal
submittal
of
development
permits
the
environmental
analysis,
a
report
prepared
for
a
public
hearing
and
planning
commission
and
then
a
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission
to
city,
council
and
ultimately,
city
council
has
jurisdiction
over
approving
or
denying
the
application.
At
this
stage.
R
R
R
Now
into
the
actual
concept
site
plan,
as
you
can
see
to
the
northeast
part
of
the
site,
is
the
property
is
bound
by
a
thousand
of
school
of
art
to
the
north
canada
school
road
to
the
east.
R
R
R
M
R
Now
for
compatibility,
the
civic
center
is
located
to
the
west,
the
there's
commercial
to
the
north
across
thousands
of
boulevard
and
to
the
northeast.
There
is
residential
beyond
that,
along
classical
road.
On
chiquita
lane
to
the
east,
there
is
additional
residential
units,
there's
also
a
shopping
center
on
the
corner
and
then
on
the
north
east
corner
of
thousand
school
of
art
musical
road,
and
then
there
are
also
two
pocket
parks,
parker
le
paz
and
beyer
park
shown
in
green.
R
There
are
a
couple
of
oak
trees
in
the
vicinity
of
the
proposed
project.
The
applicant
is
indicated,
there'll
be
no
impact
on
these
trees,
no
removals
or
encroachments,
but
if
the
project
goes
forward,
the
tree
permits
will
be
required
so
again
back
to
where
we
are
we're
at
the
very
beginning
stage
of
the
pre-screen.
If
it's
approved,
we
get
to
the
pre-application
form
applications,
the
environmental.
B
Thank
you,
mr
kearns,
for
this
presentation.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
of
the
recommendations.
I
did
not
see
a
renegotiation
of
the
dda
in
there,
along
with
concurrent
processing.
R
Yes,
the
renegotiate,
the
dda
will
be
required.
There'll
be
an
amendment
to
that
document.
It
would
be
necessary
to
capture
the
change
to
the
specific
land
and
these
agreements
on
the
property.
B
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
am
absolutely
delighted
that
the
trees
will
be
kept
untouched
and
not
encroached
upon.
That's
eliminates
a
lot
of
discussion
down
the
road
and
looking
at
rick
caruso's
building
projects
that
he
has
done
both
in
the
city
as
well
as
in
other
communities.
He
does
first
class
a1
projects
and
that
the
theming
that
goes
into
it,
similar
to
a
disney-esque
kind
of
experience,
really
brings
a
certain
flavor
to
his
projects
and
I
have
no
doubt
that'll
be
done
to
a
top
quality
level.
G
My
question,
though,
is
I
do
some
number
crunching
here.
It's
my
assumption
that
we
have
studio
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
in
this
facility,
and
I
applaud
the
effort
to
put
rentals
in
there
to
appeal
to
a
certain
opportunity
for
people
to
reside
here
in
thousand
oaks,
which
is
a
great
opportunity
for
everyone.
G
G
So
I'm
looking
at
330
cars
is
what's
going
to
be
probably
occupied
there
at
1.6
parking
spaces,
that's
going
to
leave
approximately
66
cars
without
parking,
unless
it's
moved
to
1.6
is
moved
to
two
parking
spaces
per
one
bedroom.
For
example,
if
we
take
15
feet
per
car,
let's
give
me
990
feet
worth
of
cars
that
need
to
find
an
alternate
parking
space.
G
So
if
I
do
the
math
correctly,
I'm
coming
up
with
over
three
football
fields,
long
of
cars
parked
end
to
end
out
on
the
street,
whether
it
be
on
cameo,
school,
road
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
and
my
challenge
with
all
these
projects
that
are
being
put
forth
here
is
inadequate
parking
that
is
going
to
be
a
burden
upon
the
streets
surrounding
the
project
and
I'd
like
to
hear
perhaps
from
staff
and
or
the
developer.
How
do
we
address
this?
G
R
I
I
think
I
can
answer
that
for
you.
It's
a
very
good
point,
it's
a
very
fair
point
and
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
that
through
the
analysis
of
the
park
in
the
development
standard
review
portion,
we're
obviously
not
there
yet,
and
the
parking
requirements
based
on
our
municipal
code
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
states.
The
applicant
has
not
indicated
they're
looking
for
any
sort
of
concession
through
state
density,
bonus
law,
so
they'll
have
to
follow
our
code
requirements
and
our
prescriptions
for
parking
for
the
site.
R
The
product
type
we're
not
there
yet
either.
We
don't
have
the
floor
plans,
the
elevations
that
there's
going
to
be
subterranean
or
some
sort
of
parking
structure.
We
do
have
we're
very
fortunate
for
this
location
to
have
a
parking
structure
on
the
campus,
that's
open
to
the
public,
as
well
as
the
surface
market
and
for
the
commercial
site
as
well
as
whatever
parking
they
provide
as
part
of
the
development
itself.
So
we
will
look
at
that.
G
When
you
say
the
parking
site,
that's
on
site,
are
you
referring
to
the
city
parking,
that's
next
to
city
hall,
or
is
this
another
parking
site
I'm
not
familiar
with.
G
Okay,
so
the
the
occupants
here
would
be
using
city
hall
parking,
so
we
have
a
civic
arts,
plaza
production
that
has
a
lot
of
cars
already
in
there.
That
also
would
be
competing
with
the
residents
at
this
location.
Is
that
correct.
R
F
Miss
thank
you
mayor
in
terms
of
the
parking
I
I'd.
I
would
be
curious
with
mr
cruz
or
one
of
his
representatives
there's.
If
this
is
a
problem
and
some
of
his
other
buildings,
or
has
he
had
that
creative
solution
already
worked
out
for
us,
because
it's
always
a
concern
parking's,
always
concerned
depending
on
the
mix
of
the
units
and
how
many
people
will
take
advantage
of
that.
The
walkability
factor
that
this
will
provide.
F
I,
mr
kearns,
if
you
could
go
a
little
bit
into
the
a
little
bit
deeper
into
we're,
allowing
to
200
228
units,
of
which
only
100
in
165,
was
asked
for
what
becomes
of
those
units?
Can
we
reallocate
them?
R
Absolutely
that's
a
very
good
question
as
well
a
good
clarification.
The
measuring
allocation
is
based
on
our
land
use
element
of
our
general
plan.
So
all
the
units
in
the
capacity
is
derived
from
those
densities
on
that
map,
so
we're
taking
a
density
specific
to
one
site,
we're
looking
at
this
lake
site,
isolated,
7.58
acres
and
we
have
to
allocate
those
units
to
that
specific
location.
So
we
can't
reallocate
those
units
to
another
site.
R
They
need
to
remain
there
and
if
there's
not
another
project
that
ever
comes
forth
and
those
units,
just
they
don't
go
anywhere.
So
it
is
an
overallocation.
We
do
acknowledge
that,
but
the
project
itself
is
limited
to
165
units.
F
I
also
sharpened
my
pencil
a
little
bit
if
the.
If
the
the
applet
is
asking
for
165
units,
that's
substantially
lower
than
these
30
units
per
acre,
that
you
would
be
allowed
to
build
there
is
that
correct.
R
That's
correct
yeah.
He
could
actually,
he
could
request
a
full
allocation
of
228
units
if
the
product
type
works
with
with
how
they
do
their
analysis
in
the
market.
So
technically
they
could
have
asked
for
the
228
units
they
did
not.
The
product
they're
proposing
is
165
unit
apartment
complex
and
I
can
let
them
get
into
the
the
unit
mix
and
what
they're
actually
looking
at.
I
think
councilmember
mcnamee
mentioned
the
unit
types
and
they
might
appeal
provide
some
clarification
on
that.
F
B
Mr
current
is
the
number
of
the
units
before
us
this
evening,
not
the
requested
number,
but
the
allotted
number
is
that,
including,
is
that
spread
out
over
the
entire
parcel?
Or
is
it
only
the
acreage
behind
the
commercial
section.
R
B
R
Yeah
I
have
to
refer
to
the
applicant
on
that.
We
have
not
gotten
into
the
elevations
or
the
proposed
heights.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
site
location
that
this
is
being
proposed
is
about
44
feet
lower
than
the
freeway.
Then
you
also
have
about
a
15
foot
tall,
sound
wall
in
that
location.
So,
just
hypothetically,
if
it
was
75
feet,
you'd
probably
see
about
16
feet
above
the
sample,
but
we
don't
have
a
proposal
yet.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
If
there
are
no
further
questions,
let
me
just
double
check
here.
I
don't
see
any
other
raised
hands.
I
will
then.
Oh,
mr
mr
mcnamee
go
ahead.
G
G
There
was
an
agreement,
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
that
a
guaranteed
12
percent
return
was
going
to
be
allowed
allowed
to
mr
caruso
and
his
project
and
anything
above
that
the
city
would
start
to
receive
rent
and
in
the
time
that
it's
been
there,
the
city
has
received
zero
rent
because
we
as
a
city
have
not
been
able
to
get
over
that
12
percent
threshold.
R
H
Kearns
so
yes,
the
original
ground
leaves,
as
part
of
the
dda
provided
for
a
12,
preferred
return
for
the
developer
on
the
project
on
their
development
costs,
and
if
they
achieved
their
12
percent
return,
then
the
city
would
get
20
of
the
participating
cash
flow.
And
yes,
as
you
mentioned,
they
have
not
received
their
12
preferred
return.
So
and
thus
the
city
has
not
received
any
any
lease
revenue.
G
Now
we
have
received
sales
tax
revenue,
which
is
which
is
a
plus,
but
we
haven't
owned
up
to
our
city
obligation
to
get
this
over
the
12
and
what
happens
to
that?
Rent,
that's
not
received
by
the
city
is
that
working
against
the
developer?
Are
we
owing
the
developer
that?
Could
you
please
go
into
that?
A
little
bit.
H
G
What
I
look
at
is
I
examine
the
square
footage
that
was
allocated
and
I'm
thinking
to
myself.
This
is
a
no
win
to
begin
with.
It's
a
lose-lose
situation
both
for
the
city
as
well
as
for
the
developer,
because
there's
not
enough
square
footage
for
the
retail
and
restaurants
to
make
this
work,
even
though
it's
a
beautiful
property
to
look
at
and
again,
mr
caruso
and
his
projects
are
usually
quite
elegant
and
the
park
is
wonderful
to
look
at
the
buildings
are
terrific.
G
What
was
originally
proposed.
My
understanding
is
that
there
was
going
to
be
office
building
a
center
in
the
back,
a
theater
so
forth,
which
would
have
made
more
sense
and
I'm
looking
at
this
thinking.
Well,
can
we
make
a
good
situation
out
of
a
bad
situation?
Are
we
able
to
open
up
the
negotiations
with
mr
caruso
with
this
project?
So
that
way,
it's
a
win-win
for
both
he
and
the
city.
G
B
Mayor
mr
jones
go
ahead.
N
Yes,
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
like
the
idea
of
reaching
a
new
agreement,
because
I
have
always
felt
that
the
agreement
that
we
have
been
operating
under
all
these
years
was
not
satisfactory
either
for
the
developer
or
the
city.
So
I
like
that
aspect.
I
have
one
question
about
the
allocation
of
these
units.
N
R
Yeah,
it's
a
good
point.
I
think
the
best
way
to
frame
it
is
if
you
looked
at
this,
like
a
frame,
a
phase
project
where
the
commercial
component
came
in
before
the
residential
component.
That's
how
I
would
look
at
this
just
to
put
it
in
terms
of
understanding
how
the
allocation
process
is
working.
R
We
have
to
allocate
units
based
on
the
general
plan
and
land
use
map
which,
if
we
change
it
to
commercial
residential,
would
have
a
30
unit
per
acre
maximum
capacity,
and
that
applies
to
the
entire
site.
So
we're
not
just
changing
one
portion.
We're
not
parceling
this
off
into
two
separate
lots
partially,
because
the
project,
if
it's
built,
would
operate
and
function
as
one
development
site.
You'd
have
shared
parking,
shared
circulation,
dry,
vials
and
typical
planning
techniques
that
are
accompanying
a
new
development.
R
N
And
so
the
logic
of
it
is
what
is
the
logic
of
it
when,
when
quite
a
bit
of
the
ground
is
already
occupied?
In
other
words,
if
you
needed
that
land
for
say
parking,
it
wouldn't
be
there
I
mean
can't
you
carry
this
to
an
extreme
where,
where
it
would
not
work,
if
you
have
other
uses
already
on
the
ground,.
R
You
have
more
uses
more
development
than
the
site
would
be
squeezed
to
a
point
where
it
wouldn't
make
sense
to
build
anything
right,
so
that
could
happen
hypothetically.
I
think
what
we're
doing
here
is
measure
e
is
based
on
our
general
plan.
Land
use
map.
So
all
the
units
that
are
in
the
measuring
capacity
are
based
on
individual
parcels
which
have
a
specific
density,
which
a
few
years
back,
went
through
an
exercise
of
reconciling
our
projects
that
were
underutilized
and
adding
units
to
this
measuring
capacity,
and
now
that's
what
we're
taking
from
at
this
point.
R
So
we
have
measuring
units
in
the
bank
so
to
speak,
and
we
can
assign
them
based
on
a
specific
project.
In
this
case,
we
do
have
to
base
it
off
the
entire
project
site.
It's
the
entire
project
site
is
what's
on
the
land
use
map.
N
It
seems
a
little
illogical
that
it.
You
know,
you
know,
I
guess
you
know
I
has
the
developer
considered
anything
besides
apartments.
Has
he
ever
spoken
to
you
about
perhaps
having
condos
for
sale
there?
Mr.
B
Mr
jones,
we
can
actually
have
mr
caruso
address
your
questions.
I
believe
he
is
standing
by
right
now
and
he
would
be
the
first
one
to
speak
in
this
application.
He
is
the
applicant
and
therefore
gets
a
few
minutes
to
address
this.
Would
that
be
okay?
Mr
jones
yeah.
N
C
Great
well
good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
the
council,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening,
15
years
ago,
we
opened
up
the
lakes,
it's
amazing
how
quickly
that
has
gone
by,
but
we
have
been
very
proud
of
the
lakes
development
and
we're
certainly
very
proud
of
being
a
member
of
this
community.
C
C
With
this
project
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
fulfill
the
original
mission
of
this
project,
which
was
to
give
a
lot
of
life
and
energy
to
the
core
downtown
to
energize
the
street,
to
make
downtown
more
walkable
and
the
lakes
has
been
and
has
been,
and
is
one
of
the
most
beautiful
projects
that
we
built.
C
It
was
in
great
partnership
with
the
city
but
again
to
what's
been
said
tonight,
there's
more
that
can
be
done,
and
we're
excited
to
do
that
in
terms
of
revisiting
the
development
agreement,
we're
certainly
willing
and
open
to
do
that.
We
think
this
is
an
appropriate
time
to
be
doing
that
through
this
process
and
again
eager
to
find
a
win-win
solution.
C
As
was
mentioned,
I
also
am
eager
to
get
back
out
when
it
is
safe
to
do
or
be
a
zoom
and
meeting
with
everybody
in
the
city,
the
community
groups
that
are
interested
and
care
about
this
wonderful
town.
We
always
want
to
do
what's
right
by
the
city
and
for
the
community
and
even
during
the
pandemic,
when
retail
and
restaurants
were
closed.
C
As
you
know,
we
very
proudly
kept
our
properties
open
so
that
they
could
be
walked
through
the
lights
on
the
music
on
and
perfectly
maintained
and
safe.
So
we
always
want
to
do
the
right
thing:
we're
ready
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
sit
down
with
your
team.
I'm
grateful
to
the
planning
department
and
mr
kearns
for
the
thorough
presentation
tonight.
C
This
is
a
major,
if
not
the
number
one
priority
for
our
company,
and
we
are
just
excited,
as
can
be,
to
have
the
opportunity
to
at
least
talk
about
another
project
in
the
great
city
of
thousand
oaks.
So
with
that,
if
you
don't
mind
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you
and
make
bryce
and
chris
available
to
answer
all
the
particulars
which
they
are
much
more
versed
in
than
I
am
and
we'll
handle
everything
from
here
on.
C
B
C
T
Good
evening,
mayor
chris
robertson,
vice
president
of
planning,
government
and
community
relations
for
career.
So
if,
if
it's
agreeable
to
you,
we
had
prepared
a
few
slides
that
we'd
like
to
share
and
make
a
few
opening
remarks.
And
then
again,
if
it's
agreeable
to
you,
we
can
get
into
some
of
the
more
granular
details.
I
Okay,
thank
you
good
evening,
madam
mayor
city,
council
and
staff,
as
rickett
shared,
we're
very
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
and
talking
about
the
future
of
the
lakes
property
in
thousand
oaks.
I
do
have
a
brief
presentation.
I'd
like
to
share,
so
I'm
going
to
put
that
up
on
the.
B
I
Okay,
perfect,
perfect
caruso
has
been
a
long
established
and
trusted
community
partner
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
It's
coming
up
on
nearly
three
decades
now
we
know
that,
when
the
thoughts
and
ideas
of
the
community
residents
and
civic
leaders
are
embodied
into
the
vision
of
any
proposal
that
it
will
result
in
being
beloved
and
enjoyed
by
the
community
and
adding
joy
to
people's
lives,
that's
a
prime
example
of
the
two
and
a
half
acre
park
at
the
lake.
It's
a
thousand
oaks
which
does
just
that
every
day
the
park
is
beautif
beautifully.
I
Is
a
beautiful
community
benefit
that
many
ways
has
become
the
heart
of
the
community
and
is
loved
by
families
throughout
the
community?
One
of
cruzo's
leading
principles
is
that
is
to
ensure
that
we
always
have
the
community
and
its
residents
at
the
top
of
our
minds.
It
all
starts
with
a
conversation
for
us
here,
as
we
always
do
crucial
will
conduct
a
comprehensive
community
outreach
and
engagement
program
prior
to
presenting
a
formal
redevelopment
proposal.
I
It's
it's
paramount
to
our
process
that
we
provide
a
platform
to
everyone
involved.
Numerous
meetings
will
help
us
achieve
an
even
clearer
perspective
on
how
to
best
serve
the
public,
including
intimate
conversations
over
zoom
and
larger
town
hall
type
meetings
over
zoom
as
well.
I
Only
after
we
establish
a
solid
understanding
of
the
desires
of
the
thousand
oaks
community,
where
we
begin
to
put
a
proposal
together.
Caruso's
partnership
with
the
community
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
continues
to
grow.
We
host
and
operate
dozens
of
family-friendly
community
events
over
our
properties
in
the
city
every
year
from
movies
in
the
park
and
live
concerts
in
the
park
and
holiday
events,
including
the
annual
ice
skating
rink,
our
tree
lighting
and
santa's
cottage,
all
of
which
were
born
from
our
community
engagement
process.
I
T
Thank
you
bryce
good
evening
again,
mayor
council
members,
I'd
just
like
to
wrap
up
with
a
few
key
points
when
we
partnered
with
the
city
to
develop
the
lakes
back
in
2004,
we
shared
a
common
vision
for
the
future
of
thousand
oaks
boulevard
as
a
thriving
downtown
center
with
the
civic
center
as
the
anchor
we
like
the
city
remain
committed
to
that
vision.
Today,
as
mr
kearns
pointed
out,
the
site
has
always
contemplated
more
development,
but
what
that
looks
like
has
evolved
over
time.
T
We
know
that
the
city
needs
housing
and
we
believe
the
addition
of
residential
units
at
the
lakes
will
help
to
implement
a
number
of
important
city
policies
to
begin
with.
In
2017,
the
economic
development
strategic
plan
emphasized
the
need
for
housing
as
a
key
strategy
to
attract
and
retain
employers.
We
know
the
new
generation
of
employees,
the
city
is
striving
to
attract
and
retain,
is
looking
for
housing,
that's
more
walkable,
with
access
to
retail
restaurants,
open
space
and
entertainment.
T
We
believe
this
is
a
step
towards
implementing
the
strategic
plan.
Next,
in
2018,
as
staff
mentioned,
the
downtown
core
master
plan,
the
city's
blueprint
for
creating
an
active
downtown
underscored
that
the
surface
parking
lot
behind
the
lakes
was
underutilized
and
highlighted
that
its
redevelopment
could
play
a
catalytic
role
in
the
creation
of
a
successful
downtown.
T
As
you
know,
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
updating
its
general
plan
to
comply
with
state
requirements.
We
would
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
together
to
move
the
city
towards
meetings,
its
housing
goals,
and
we
are
absolutely
committed
to
working
with
the
city
and
the
community
to
integrate
affordable
housing
into
the
project.
As
we
prepare
to
revisit
the
development
agreement,
we
are
absolutely
incredibly
excited
to
re-engage
with
the
community
of
thousand
oaks,
which
again
is
a
city.
We
believe
strongly
in
we'd
like
to
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
tonight.
T
F
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
thank
thanks
so
much
for
coming
out
tonight
and
helping
us
see
what
your
vision
is.
The
the
buildings
that
you
currently
have
in
town,
I
think,
are
gosh
they're,
probably
closing
in
on
25
years
old.
Now
or
so.
They
still
look
fresh,
and
I
appreciate
the
public
art
that
has
been
put
in
by
by
caruso.
They
are.
F
They
are
part
of
the
community
now
and
I
look
forward
to
another
development
within
our
community
that
rises
of
that
level
of
involvement
on
your
part
and
your
level
of
taste
that
you
bring
to
most
of
your
developments.
F
So
with
that
said,
I
got
a
couple
of
comments
really
just
looking
at
the
plot
plan
of
of
your
of
the
property
out
there
at
the
back
of
the
parking
lot
and
everything.
How
are
you
gonna
make
the
the
connection
between
your
current
property
and
the
property
to
the
west
there,
our
civic
center?
How
is
that
going
to
interface
together,
rather
than
just
walk
across
a
large
parking
lot?.
T
Yes,
great
question:
councilmember
engler,
we
are,
it
should
council,
let
us
move
forward
with
an
application,
we're
ready
to
start
a
robust
community
outreach
process,
we'd
like
to
engage
with
the
community
to
hear
their
thoughts,
what
they
need.
What
they'd
like
to
see
there
we'd
also
like
to
work
closely
with
the
city
and
the
civic
arts,
plaza
master
plan
committee,
to
see
what
kind
of
ideas
we
might
come
up
with,
but
we
are
absolutely
committed
to
making
sure
that
redevelopment
is
walkable.
That's
that's
a
key.
T
That's
a
key
point
of
our
redevelopment
efforts,
making
sure
that
thousand
oaks
boulevard
is
walkable,
pedestrian,
friendly,
vibrant,
and
so
those
are.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
hope
to
work
on
as
we
move
through
the
development
process
and
the
community
outreach
process.
T
That's
something
we're
absolutely
open
to
having
a
discussion
about.
As
you
know,
the
green
building
code
is
is
very
cumbersome
with
all
the
updates
that
have
currently
been
included
and
it's
close
to
leed
standard.
So
we
the
building,
will
be
sustainable
and
those
will
be
part
of
the
community
discussions
that
we
have
as
we
move
forward
in
the
process.
B
N
Yeah
I
like
the
idea
of
going
forward
with
the
project.
I'd
like
it
when
we
get
to
the
stage
of
excuse
me
of
actually
getting
in
more
detail,
is
what
what
is
going
to
be
developed.
N
I'm
also
concerned,
as
was
brought
up
by
councilman
mcnamee,
about
the
number
of
of
cars
that
would
be
associated
if
you
build
it
out
to
the
maxim
that
you
could
build
it,
but
I
really
like
the
idea
of
redoing
the
agreement,
because
without
casting
aspersions
on
anybody
in
the
past,
I
I
don't
think
it
was
a
very
good
agreement
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
modified
to
the
benefit
of
both
the
developer
and
the
city.
N
And
I
I
don't
mean
to
monopolize
the
conversation,
I
just
like
to
say
that
I
look
forward
to
making
a
new
agreement
and
to
having
the
city
be
a
equal
partner
in
deciding
what
is
going
to
be
there
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
I
wasn't
sure
whether
you
were
ready
to
make
a
motion,
which
is
why
I
brought
up
the
the
the
25
speakers
that
we
have
didn't
mean
to
to
interrupt.
My
apologies.
B
I
just
wanted
to
find
out
from
staff-
I'm
sorry
not
from
city
staff,
but
from
caruso
staff,
the
mr,
mr
grass
or
howl,
or
miss
robertson.
The.
What
can
you
tell
us
right
now
about
parking
and
height
concerns?
If
anything,
because
those
those
issues
will
be
when
it
will
obviously
be
concerns
for
residents
or
our
concerns
for
residents.
I
We
definitely
understand
that
those
are
important
and
sensitive
issues,
and
at
this
point
it
would
be
premature
to
address
them,
but
we
definitely
understand
them
as
sensitive
issues
and
as
we
process
forward
with
our
community
outreach.
We'll
be
collecting
a
lot
of
different
information
on
that
and
look
forward
to
sharing
the
results
and
some
of
the
thoughts
and
conversations
back
with
staff
and
with
the
council.
As
we
move
forward.
B
I
We
are
open-minded
at
this
point
in
the
in
the
process.
Our
job
is
to
listen
is
to
hear
from
the
community.
I
think
councilman
jones
thought
is
is
definitely
a
point
that
we're
hearing
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
give
a
broad
opportunity
for
the
community
to
provide
their
input
before
we
make
any
kind
of
recommendations
or
decisions
as
we
proceed
forward.
B
Thank
you,
and
with
that
we
will
go
to
our
first
speaker
and
we,
as
I
said,
have,
I
believe,
25
of
them.
First
one
will
be
and
they
will
all
be
joining
us
via
video
amy
commons,
followed
by
tim
hagel
and
then
scott
patterson
madame.
I
believe.
A
The
first
speaker,
the
listed
change,
is
tim
hagel.
D
Okay,
we
can
oh.
Thank
you,
hey,
listen!
I
I
just
it's
an
honor
for
me
to
be
here
tonight.
This
is
close
to
home
for
me,
as
you
know,
being
born
and
raised
here
starting
60
years
ago,
and
having
the
honor
to
be
the
former
chief
of
police.
I
know
how
important
it
is
for
the
city
to
provide
a
pathway
for
workforce
housing.
G
D
D
Caruso
properties
has
been
a
long
partner
of
the
canal.
I
think
they
mentioned
that
close
to
16
years
ago,
partnering
with
the
city,
and
they
really
have
touched
virtually
every
non-profit
in
the
canal
valley
to
say
that
they
are
socially
invested
in
our
community,
can't
even
begin
to
say
every
time
you
turn
your
back.
You
see
the
impacts
and
the
lives
that
they
change
and
how
beneficial
they
are
for
the
community
they're
on.
So
many
boards.
S
Thank
you,
council
for
your
time,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
here.
My
name
is
scott
patterson,
I'm
31
years
old
and
I
graduated
from
west
lake
high
school
in
2008.
If
I
did
my
math
correctly,
I'm
lucky
enough
to
live
in
thousand
oaks.
Now,
I'm
a
commercial
real
estate
broker
here
in
the
area,
and
I
couldn't
help
but
notice,
as
I
drive
by
the
lakes,
that
to
no
fault
of
caruso
company,
it's
quite
vacant
right
now
and
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
world.
S
That's
causing
that
to
happen
and
as
a
commercial,
real
estate
broker.
My
clients
are
businesses,
small
and
large,
and
one
of
the
key
things
that
these
businesses
ask
me
when
we're
trying
to
find
a
location
is
where
are
the
employees
going
to
live
and
with
office
building
vacancy
really
really
high
in
thousand
oaks?
Last
I
checked
it
was
about
16
and
that's
before
covid.
S
We're
gonna
need
to
fill
these
these
spaces,
and
these
employees
are
gonna
have
to
live
somewhere.
We
want
them
living
here
and
we
want
their
them
earning
their
money
in
thousand
oaks
and
we
want
them
spending
their
money.
In
thousand
oaks,
I
think
that
lakes
is
a
great
spot
for
an
apartment
building,
it's
a
big
old
parking
lot
and
I've.
Never
in
my
life
had
trouble
finding
a
parking
spot
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
which
is
great,
and
I
I
hope
that
it
continues
that
way.
S
I
don't
see
that
being
an
issue,
but
I
I
trust
that
that
will
be
perfectly
vetted.
I
say,
let's
be
proactive
about
approving
high
quality.
New
developments
like
caruso
is,
has
a
track
record
of
doing,
and
let's
not
wait
for
the
state
to
mandate
that
these
projects
get
done
and
get
our
backs
against
the
wall
and
have
to
be
forced
to
to
create
something
that
we
don't
all
want.
I
think
this
is
a
great
project
and
I
think
it's
a
great
place
to
put
it.
A
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
city
council.
The
last
time
that
I
came
before
city
council.
I
proposed
the
question
who
are
we
building
for,
and
my
question
was
in
the
hopes
that
city
council
enact
a
framework
when
judging
housing
proposals
more
apartments
in
a
mixed-use
setting
that
about
where
their
backyard
is.
The
freeway
has
concerns
for
me.
A
A
The
city
needs
more
housing.
Absolutely
there's
no
question
about
that,
but
we
need
a
variety
of
affordable
housing
and
affordable
condos
that
are
and
town
homes
and
apartments
that
are
inclusive
to
our
senior
and
disabled
and
working
families.
Population.
A
A
B
A
Hi,
my
name
is
delaney
rodriguez.
I
currently
live
in
orange
county,
but
I
grew
up
in.
A
A
But
we
choose
to
live
now
in
an
apartment
because,
where
we
live
in
orange
county
is
close
to
the
amenities
that
we
want
at
this
stage
of
our
lives.
There's.
A
O
When
we
left
thousand
oaks,
the
this
type
of
housing
was
not
available,
it
wasn't
feasible
for
us
and
the
entertainment
retail
options
were
extremely
limited.
Our
families
are
still
in
ventura,
county
and
someday.
We
would
like
to
move
back
to
be
with
them.
The
proposal
you
have
been
talking
about
tonight
is
exactly
the
kind
of
place
where
we
might
want
to
live.
If
the
boulevard
ever
became
a
place,
that
was
lively
with
entertainment,
restaurants,
coffee
shops
that
we
could
walk
to.
That
would
be
a
real
draw
for
us.
D
Hi
thanks
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name's
john
irwin,
I've
lived
in
thousand
oaks
with
my
wife
and
kids
for
25
years
now
we're
fortunate
enough
to
raise
all
three
of
them
here.
They
all
went
to
thousand
oaks
high
school
city's
been
a
great
place
to
live
and
raise
family,
and
one
of
the
ways
I
chose
to
give
back
to
the
community
was
to
get
involved
at
cal,
lutheran
university.
I've
been
on
the
board
of
regents
for
the
last
11
years.
D
There
are
they're
out
in
the
community
constantly
one
project
that
I
got
to
witness
early
on,
which
was
a
sign
of
creativity
in
this
partnership
was
you
know
the
building
of
the
community
pool
at
cal
lutheran,
where
it
was
a
partnership
between
cal,
lutheran
crpd,
and
you
now
have
the
crpd
community
pool
is
a
a
great
spot
on
the
north
campus
and
as
a
pr
president
of
the
local
swim
club
at
the
time
it
was.
It
was
great
to
see
the
benefit
that
brought
to
the
kids
in
the
community.
D
D
We
were
fortunate
for
the
last
10
years
to
have
dr
kimball
lead
the
university,
and
we
recently
brought
on
dr
lori
varlatta
as
our
new
president,
a
phenomenal
transformative
leader
that
will
continue
the
tradition
of
partnering
with
the
city,
the
ability
to
attract
faculty
and
staff
to
the
university.
It's
really
essential.
D
I
think
it
makes
reviewing
concepts
like
this
one
at
the
lakes
for
residential
housing,
the
housing
for
workforce
to
support
the
university
is
great.
I
also
think
seeing
caruso
and
how
he's
engaged
the
community
and
taking
community
input
is
a
great
step
in
the
right
direction.
To
help
the
city
move
forward
and
look
at
a
great
option
for
the
university
and
really
for
other
businesses
to
come
to
town
thanks
and
have
a
great
evening,
everybody.
S
Hello,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
adam
haverstock
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
for
the
greater
kaneho
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
I'm
here
tonight
to
speak
in
support
of
the
motion,
allocating
housing
units
to
the
proposed
project
at
the
lakes.
My
comments
tonight
will
probably
sound
familiar.
S
I
spoke
at
the
last
council
meeting
in
favor
of
the
mill
creek
pre-screen
that
you
all
approved
two
weeks
ago
and
I
provided
very
similar
comments.
In
short,
thousand
oaks
needs
more
workforce
housing.
S
I'm
sure
that
you
are
all
aware
of
senate
bill
330..
It
is
also
known
as
the
housing
crisis
act
of
2019
in
sb
330.
The
state
legislature
declared
a
housing
supply
crisis
in
the
state
of
california,
noting
that
the
state
of
california
ranks
49th
out
of
50
states
in
housing
units
per
capita.
As
of
2018.,
I
want
to
repeat
that
real
quick.
We
are
49th
out
of
50
states
in
housing
units
per
capita.
So
that's
where
we
stand.
S
California
needs
to
build
180
000
additional
homes
per
year,
just
to
keep
up
with
population
growth,
and
governor
newsom
has
called
for
an
additional
3.5
million
homes
to
be
built
statewide
over
the
next
seven
years.
That's
500
000
a
year
specifically
here
in
thousand
oaks.
The
southern
california
association
of
governments
in
their
most
recent
regional
housing
needs
assessment
allocations
determined
that
thousand
oaks
needs
to
build
2616
housing
units
in
the
next
eight
years.
S
S
P
Hi
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
katzelm
and
I'm
a
renter
here
in
thousand
oaks.
I
have
several
questions
about
this
project.
Questions
that
the
applicant
says
will
be
answered
if
they
receive
the
green
light
tonight
to
proceed
with
a
formal
development
review
process.
P
I'd
also
like
to
see
the
council
request.
The
applicant
exceeds
california's
current
building
energy
efficiency
standards
and
require
this
applicant
and
all
others
to
go
all
electric
with
no
new
gas.
Hookups.
You've
heard
it
before
from
to
residents
here
at
city
council
meetings
on
these
new
development
projects.
We
do
not
want
buildings
to
be
out
of
step
with
our
environmental
reality.
P
Allowing
gas
connections
in
new
building
projects
is
short-sighted,
unnecessarily
costly
and
harmful
for
our
health.
It's
a
waste
of
time
and
money
to
include
something
that
is
so
certain
to
become
obsolete,
whether
that
be
in
the
2022
cec
code
cycle,
the
2025
cycle
reach
codes
adopted
by
the
city
or
by
adopting
the
statewide
goals
of
retrofitting
existing
infrastructure
for
zero
net
energy.
The
writing
is
on
the
wall
with
gas
infrastructure.
P
S
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
city
staff,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
council
this
evening.
My
name
is
steve
bertram,
I'm
the
chief
people
officer
for
a
tower
of
biotherapeutics
based
in
newberry
park,
as
well
as
a
member
of
the
board
for
the
canal
chamber
of
commerce.
S
I'm
here
tonight
in
support
of
the
project
that's
being
proposed
at
the
lakes
and
and
full
support
for
advancing
it
to
further
study.
Atari,
as
many
of
you
know,
is
a
rapidly
expanding
biotech
company
here
in
the
canao
valley
and
and
one
of
many
companies
that
is
currently
setting
up
shop.
If
you
will
within
the
canal
valley
in
the
life
sciences
area,
our
staff
is
typically
comprised
of
biologists,
engineers,
scientists,
highly
educated
individuals
in
the
stem
fields.
S
We
recruit
people
nationally
to
the
thousand
oaks
area
and
and
we
have
a
lot
to
offer
in
this
community
for
people
joining
atara
and
other
companies
like
ours
when
they
come
they're.
Looking
for
a
variety
of
things,
they're
looking
for
jobs,
they're
looking
for
outdoor
opportunities,
they're
looking
for
entertainment
and
they're
looking
for
housing,
and
if
I
go
through
the
list,
thousand
oaks
is
fantastic.
We
have
a
lot
of
jobs
in
this
community
high
paying
physicians.
S
S
Having
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
city
on
the
master
plan
and
looking
at
the
lakes
area
and
and
other
development
options
within
the
area
I
see
what's
being
proposed
by
caruso
in
the
lakes,
is
kind
of
the
the
gem,
a
really
tremendous
opportunity
for
people
joining
a
company
like
katara
to
have
another
housing
option
where
they
can
walk
to
restaurants.
They
can
walk
to
entertainment
venues,
they
can.
They
can
live
in
thousand
oaks
and
have
the
quality
of
life
that
they're
looking
for
and
have
a
housing
option
that
they
can
afford.
S
So,
from
my
perspective
and
and
being
a
champion
of
someone
who
not
only
wants
to
attract
people
into
the
area
but
to
keep
people
in
the
area,
an
option
like
this,
I
think,
is
extraordinarily
valuable.
It
adds
to
our
quality
of
life
and-
and
I
think
it's
worth
advancing
for
consideration
by
the
council.
Thank
you,
mayor.
B
A
B
I'm
sorry
also
just
reminding
our
speakers
to
where
you
live.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
council,
members
and
mr
caruso,
my
name
is
roseanne.
I
live
in
thousand
oaks.
Did
you
know
that
60
of
new
u.s
home
construction
is
now
built
to
be
all
electric
but
95
of
california?
Construction
still
uses
fossil
gas,
which
is
mostly
methane.
H
A
climate
heating
gas
84
times
more
potent
than
co2
fossil
gas
powered
buildings
added
25
of
our
state's
global
heating
emissions
in
2016.,
given
that
all
electric
buildings
improve
indoor
air
quality,
reduce
emissions,
increase,
building
safety
are
less
expensive
to
build
and
save
on
energy
costs
mandating
all
electric
buildings
is
the
single
most
effective
strategy
you
can
take
to
lower
climate
risks
and
protect
residents,
physical
and
fiscal
health
that
solar
now
generates
the
cheapest
electricity
is
good
news
for
our
community,
which
now
faces
wildfires.
Even
in
january.
H
No
wonder
42.
California,
cities
have
adopted
building
codes,
reducing
fossil
gas
reliance,
50
more
cities
and
counties
are
considering
policies
for
all-electric
new
construction,
the
california
energy
commission
last
updated
title
24
energy
efficiency
standards
in
2019
and
is
working
on
the
2022
revision
burning.
Fossil
gas
in
our
buildings
for
three
more
years
will
result
in
3
million,
more
tons
of
climate
pollution
by
2030
and
more
than
1
billion
dollars
of
unnecessary
spending
on
new
gas
connection
infrastructure.
H
H
It
will
lower
construction
and
energy
costs,
increase
the
supply
of
affordable
housing,
avoid
the
cost
of
retrofitting
obsolete
fossil
fuel
infrastructure,
down
the
line
and
make
significant
strides
towards
climate
goals
like
the
promenade
and
the
lakes.
I
know
mr
caruso
will
design
a
stylish
complex.
He
has
earned
a
reputation
for
excellence
which
makes
him
exactly
the
right
person
to
lead
on
climate
forward.
H
B
M
M
M
The
creation
of
a
walkable
downtown
would
help
bring
needed
energy
around
the
civic
arts.
Plaza
renewed
enthusiasm
in
the
area
could
lead
to
more
support
of
the
performing
arts
center
to
art,
the
resident
companies
and
other
art
organizations
which
use
the
theaters
nearby
residents
could
be
an
audience
for
arts
and
entertainment
at
the
theaters
without
a
need
to
drive.
M
M
M
B
F
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
members
of
the
thousand
city
council.
My
name
is
jackson
piper.
F
I
am
a
resident
of
unincorporated
newbury
park,
consider
thousand
oaks
to
be
my
home
community
and
I
am
also
a
lead
with
ventura
county
embi,
which
is
a
volunteer
organization
forum
to
advocate
for
more
housing
and
better
housing
in
ventura,
county
cities
and
unincorporated
counties.
F
I'm
here
tonight
to
ask
you
to
approve
the
allocation
of
these
units
to
to
the
developer
for
this
project.
F
F
F
Moderate
income
units
for
the
city's
residents
and
housing
in
thousand
oaks
is
an
issue
it's
been
going
on
for
decades
and
we'll
probably
continue
on
being
a
catechist
issue
for
a
while,
but
we
need
more
housing,
that's
affordable
to
people
who
have
been
here,
people
who
want
to
be
here
and
also
to
recognize
that
housing
needs
to
provide
enough.
F
B
I
Good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council,
my
name
is
clint
fultz
and
I'm
a
renter
here
in
thousand
oaks.
If
the
resolution
is
adopted,
I
would
like
to
urge
this
city
to
address
several
issues
that
will
impact
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks.
I
think
it
goes
without
saying
that
we
are
in
desperate
need
of
affordable
housing,
but
I'm
going
to
say
it.
I
Anyways
thousand
oaks
is
in
desperate
need
of
affordable
housing,
essential
workers,
the
elderly
and
young
people
are
often
priced
out
of
the
area
and
end
up
leaving
for
other
cities
in
the
case
of
essential
workers.
Many
commute
from
oxnard
and
the
san
fernando
valley
in
order
to
fulfill
the
lower
wage
jobs
here
in
thousand
oaks,
and
they
do
so
in
passenger
cars.
This
creates
more
traffic
and
an
abundance
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
contributes
directly
to
climate
change.
I
I
urge
you
to
build
as
much
affordable
housing
as
possible
and
when
you
do
adopt
reach
codes
that
go
beyond
statewide
building
codes,
making
sure
buildings
are
all
electric.
According
to
rachel
golden
of
the
sierra
club,
there's
no
pathway
to
stabilizing
the
climate
without
phasing
gas
out
of
our
homes
and
buildings.
This
is
a
must
do
for
the
climate
and
a
livable
planet.
I'd
also
like
to
add
that
the
lancet
reported
in
1996
that
the
use
of
domestic
gas
appliances,
particularly
gas
stoves,
was
linked
to
increased
asthma,
respiratory
illness
and
impaired
lung
function.
I
P
P
P
I'm
asking
that
the
developer
comply
with
california
energy
commission
2022
code
and
require
the
entire
building
to
be
all
electric
ready
and
without
gas
hookups
all
electric
buildings
improve
indoor
air
quality
and
building
safety.
They
lower
construction
and
energy
costs
and
they
reduce
greenhouse
pollution.
P
P
They
are
motivated
by
the
changing
climate
worsening
air
pollution,
escalating
gas
rates
and
safety
risk
from
gas.
Let's
put
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
on
that
list
and
since
half
of
the
greenhouse
gasses
produced
in
thousand
oaks
are
generated
by
cars,
I
strongly
urge
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
for
every
unit
so
that
many
apartment
owners
can
acquire
electric
vehicles
and
participate
in
reducing
emissions.
P
B
M
Evening,
good
evening
near
build
a
penalty
council,
members
and
city
staff.
My
name
is
clevy
flame.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
you
my
thoughts,
I'm
a
mom
and
a
business
owner
in
our
community.
Our
family
lives
in
the
newberry
park
area.
My
two
businesses
depend
on
the
growth
of
our
community
and
the
ability
for
new
growing
families
to
move
here.
My
husband
and
I
own
a
children's
martial
arts
center-
and
I
am
the
owner
of
moms
of
tanejo
valley
moms
of
canal
valley-
is
where
you
can
find
out
what
that
loud.
M
Boom
was
at
11
o'clock.
Last
night,
probably
the
latest
gossip
maybe
sell
your
kids
stuff,
but,
most
importantly,
you
can
find
out
what
our
community
needs.
We
are
22,
000,
moms,
strong
with
a
lot
to
say
and
a
lot
of
opinions.
I
can
confirm
that
we
absolutely
need
multi-family
housing.
We
have
hundreds
of
posts
per
week
for
moms
in
our
area,
looking
for
affordable
housing
as
an
extremely
involved
and
engaged
community
member
and
a
member
of
our
greater
canada
valley,
chamber
of
commerce
board
of
directors.
M
Caruso
has
been
a
strong
community
partner
and
is
a
good
safe
bet
because
of
their
track
record
of
commitment
and
their
history
of
encouraging
their
executives
to
participate
on
the
boards
of
dozens
of
causes
to
support
all
aspects
of
thousand
up.
Crusoe
has
continued
to
create
events
that
our
families
look
forward
to.
M
These
properties
are
where
some
community
events
happen,
that
our
children
will
remember
for
years
to
come
concerts,
art
festivals,
kids,
clubs,
breakfast
with
front
of
the
bunny
and
so
much
more
cruzo
and
his
team
brought
the
beautiful
lakes
park
area
to
the
city,
its
amenities,
maintenance
and
programming
for
community
events
at
their
expense.
Our
family
loves
to
spend
time
at
the
lakes,
especially
during
cover
19..
The
lakes
is
always
well
kept.
The
grounds
are
beautiful
and
it's
family
friendly.
M
M
M
The
board
of
directors
for
the
chamber
would
like
to
express
our
support
for
the
proposed
allocation
of
units
for
caruso
for
this
mix
juice
project
caruso
has
a
proven
track
record
of
quality
developments
in
the
city
and
the
additional
housing
to
this
center
will
create
much
needed
workforce
housing
for
our
major
employers
to
recruit
and
retain
the
local
talent
we
need
to
make
our
community
thrive.
One
of
our
largest
employers
in
thousand
oaks
amgen,
with
over
5
000
employees
agrees.
M
M
Mixed-Use
housing
provides
opportunities
for
all
level
of
employment,
including
those
wanting
to
put
down
roots
in
our
wonderful
community.
We
also
strive
to
be
located
in
communities
in
which
inclusiveness
is
valued
and
our
team
members
can
feel
a
true
sense
of
belonging,
regardless
of
backgrounds.
M
You
also
heard
remarks
this
evening
from
a
tarot,
bio
and
honestly.
This
is
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg,
because
the
recent
investment
in
our
biotech
sector
will
ultimately
create
thousands
of
jobs
that
we
all
want
and
further
elevates
the
importance
of
additional
housing
options
for
these
professionals.
M
As
you
all
know,
this
is
not
a
final
approval,
but
merely
a
pre-screen
process
to
assess
the
merits
of
this
project
and
give
the
developer
initial
feedback.
There
will
be
ample
opportunity
to
provide
feedback
along
the
way
to
ensure
this
project
meets
the
needs
of
thousand
oaks,
businesses
and
residents
alike.
On
behalf
of
our
chamber,
I
strongly
urge
you
to
support
this
project's
pre-approval
this
evening.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Next
up,
we
have
james
connor,
followed
by
max
guinness
and
then
sean
moradian
and
again,
if
you
would
please
mention
where
you
live.
Thank
you.
D
D
I
am
involved
in
commercial,
real
estate
brokerage,
so
I
have
seen
firsthand
and
dealt
with
companies
moving
in
and
out
of
the
area
and
definitely
over
the
course
of
time
that
we've
lived
here
have
seen
the
need
to
increase
the
local
housing,
including
affordable
housing,
primarily
for
these
companies
to
house
their
employees.
D
D
D
I
also
want
to
applaud
the
crucial
companies
for
their
for
their
great
projects
that
they
have
built
in
the
past,
including
the
promenade
and,
of
course,
the
lakes.
They
have
an
excellent
reputation
in
the
community
they're
a
great
community
partner,
along
with
having
a
great
relationship
with
the
city,
and
I
really
look
forward
personally
to
seeing
what
they
would
come
up
with
in
terms
of
a
design
plan
for
this
proposed
project.
D
So,
as
a
result
of
this,
I
would
encourage
the
city
council
to
vote
in
favor
of
allowing
the
crusoe
companies
the
opportunity
to
have
their
projects
submitted
for
review
and
consideration
by
the
planning.
Commission
and
city
council,
given
the
city's,
affordable
housing
needs
and
the
opportunity
to
develop
a
property
like
this.
D
B
L
Hello
again,
yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
max
guinness.
I
live
in
oxford
and
like
newbury
park
resident
jackson
piper
who
spoke
earlier.
I
am
also
a
lead
of
venture
county
envy.
We
are
working
to
end
the
housing
shortage
that
plagues
ventura,
county
and
california,
more
broadly,
especially
in
high-cost
areas
like
thousand
oaks,
I
want
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
approving
this
project
and
moving
forward
as
quickly
as
possible.
L
This
is
the
exact
kind
of
multi-family,
dense
housing
development
that
we
think
is
critically
important
to
making
areas
more
affordable,
more
sustainable,
more
inclusive,
and
especially
if
it's
replacing
a
parking
lot
that
will
get
even
more
cars
off
the
road
and
if
it's
in
a
walkable,
neighborhood
that'll
help
people
live
without
getting
in
their
cars
and
causing
carbon
emissions,
polluting
our
air,
etc.
L
This
really
is
a
sizable
lot
that
can
accommodate
more
future
thousand
oaks
families,
including
many
who,
like
one
though
one
of
the
people
who
spoke
earlier,
moved
out
partially
because
there
is
not
this
kind
of
housing
available
in
thousand
notes.
I
also
wanted
to
clarify
one
of
the
points
I
was
made
earlier
and
really
emphasize
it
that
california,
this
is
a
statewide
issue
and
we
are
not
only
the
number
49
50
states
in
terms
of
housing
units
per
capita
number
50.
There
is
actually
utah,
so
that's
largely
driven
by
their
large
families.
L
We
are
number
50
out
of
50
in
terms
of
housing
units
per
adult,
and
we
are
also
number
one
out
of
50
in
terms
of
the
poverty
rate.
These
are
directly
linked.
There
has
been
extensive
research
showing
that
there's
a
link
between
housing
shortages
actually
causing
poverty
as
they
raise
housing
costs
and
make
sure
that
people
don't
have
enough
resources
to
pursue
their
other
needs.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
the
time,
and
I
hope
you
improve
this
quickly.
Thank
you.
B
L
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
honorable,
council
members,
my
name
is
sean
moradian,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
thousand
oaks
and
president
of
the
thousand
oaks
boulevard
association.
On
behalf
of
our
association,
we
strongly
support
the
application
before
you
this
evening.
This
pre-screen
is
like
none
of
that
you've
heard
before.
We
would
respectfully
consider
this
the
boulevards
application,
the
residence
application.
L
This
project
in
large
part
belongs
to
the
taxpayers
upon
which
mr
caruso
would
like
to
enhance
at
his
expense.
The
residents
of
thousand
oaks
would
be
the
direct
beneficiaries
of
any
future
project.
Is
mr
crusoe
qualified?
I
believe
the
answer
is
yes.
He
has
an
outstanding
track
record
of
award-winning
developments
in
our
community
and
throughout
southern
california.
L
For
over
30
years,
he
and
his
executive
team
have
been
involved
in
our
community.
Mr
cruz
has
empowered
his
senior
vice
president,
mr
rick
limo,
to
serve
on
countless
community
boards
and
organizations,
including
the
chamber
of
commerce,
clu
board
of
regents
rotary
clubs,
louis
robles
hospital,
the
alliance
for
the
arts,
just
to
name
a
few.
L
We
should
embrace
this
opportunity
to
upgrade
the
lakes
to
its
potential
with
him
and
his
team.
Nearly
20
years
ago,
prior
city
councils
tried
to
play
developer
and
reduced
the
proposed
scale
and
size
of
the
lakes
to
a
quarter
of
which
what
mr
cruz
originally
had
intended
to
develop.
The
result
has
been
20
years
of
no
profit
sharing.
Many
residents,
including
members
of
our
city
council,
have
asked
for
years
for
the
development
agreement
with
mr
crusoe
to
be
revisited
by
granting
tonight's
allocation.
The
city
council
will
have
that
desired
opportunity
as
the
landowners.
L
L
165
units
isn't
going
to
maturely
change
caruso's
portfolio,
but
it
will
make
a
direct
impact
on
the
struggling
businesses
nearby,
we'll
place.
New
residences
within
footsteps
of
the
civic
arch
plaza,
thus
supporting
the
arts,
and
it
will
begin
the
process
of
re-envisioning
the
campus
master
plan
and
surrounding
areas
at
this
point
before
you
tonight,
there's
just
a
concept.
The
question
is:
will
we
like
housing
at
the
lakes?
If,
yes,
the
city
and
residents,
couldn't
have
a
better
company
to
partner
with
based
on
the
overwhelming
success
of
1710?
L
We
know
there
is
demand
for
each
of
the
proposed
units.
Topa
stands
in
strong
support
of
the
city
and
the
applicant's
joint
venture
to
enhance
the
lakes.
You've
heard
it
before
and
I'll
respectfully
say
it
again.
Land
is
scarce.
We
cannot
afford
to
waste
it.
Please
support
this
pre-screen.
Thank
you.
B
B
H
H
H
I
hope
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
smart
development
to
meet
our
needs
here
in
thousand
oaks.
I
love
thousand
oaks,
so
I
think
this
is
fabulous.
I
think
it's
fabulous
and
I'm
going
to
so
many
people
have
said
really
what
I
want
to
say.
I'm
going
to
be
concise,
it's
fabulous
because
the
caruso
construction
and
design
is
always
good
and
the
caruso
buildings
last
forever
and
are
timeless
they'll
be
good
for
our
town.
B
H
Hi
good
evening,
madam
mayor,
thank
you
for
having
me
my
name
is
amy
cummins.
Vice
president
community
employer
relations
at
los
robles
health
system,
I'm
a
resident
of
oak
park,
I'm
here
tonight
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
conceptual
hearing
and
further
planning
talks
of
creative
development
for
multi-family
housing
in
thousand
oaks.
On
behalf
of
los
robles
health
system
and
as
our
board
of
trustees
board.
Member
chief
tim
hegel
shared
with
you
earlier
tonight.
We
are
thrilled
to
announce
that
we'll
be
having
26
new
residents
launching
our
teaching
program
starting
july
1
of
this
year.
H
20
of
those
residents
will
be
specializing
in
internal
medicine,
another
six
in
emergency
medicine,
launching
in
conjunction
with
our
graduate
medical
education
program.
It's
been
years
in
the
making
and
actually
was
delayed
like
many
other
projects
due
to
the
pandemic,
studies
show
that
doctors
often
choose
to
stay
and
nurture
roots
in
the
city
where
they
do
their
residency
and
we
would
love
nothing
more
right.
H
However,
affordable
housing
is
a
huge
component
of
this
equation
and
these
young
residents
will
continue
to
grow
in
other
disciplines
with
our
medical
practice.
So
hopefully
that's
in
our
future.
With
seasoned
developers
like
caruso,
with
thoughtfully,
designed,
inclusive
approaches
to
all
of
their
housing
needs,
john
irwin
mentioned
earlier
tonight
and
referenced
the
talents
that
we
are
attracting
at
clu,
as
well
as
our
robust
investment
in
the
biotech
hub
that
the
city
has
been
driving.
H
But
we
want
all
of
these
bright
young
minds
to
live
and
grow
their
families
right
here
and
thrive
in
thousand
oaks
like
the
rest
of
us.
Webster's
is
certainly
being
put
to
the
test
tonight
with
their
thesaurus
when
complementing
the
caruso
touch.
Cities
across
the
country
are
vying
for
developers
of
his
caliber
and
in
intentions.
H
But
tonight
I
want
to
put
a
face
to
one
of
our
beloved
critical
care:
nurses
at
las
robles
tom
vasco,
who
has
worked
in
critical
care
for
the
past
year,
delivering
the
most
compassionate
care
to
some
of
our
most
critically
ill.
Patients
with
covid
tom's
last
day
is
tomorrow
february
10th.
This
is
tom
and
his
son.
I
want
to
read
a
letter
that
he
sent
to
me
last
night,
knowing
that
I
was
going
to
testify
tonight.
H
He
said
my
family
and
I
recently
decided
to
uproot
and
move
from
our
beautiful
ventura
county,
a
county
where
we
were
born,
raised
and
plan
on
raising
our
children.
My
siblings
three
sons
are
all
attending
the
same
elementary
school
middle
school
and
high
school
that
he
and
I
attended
in
our
youth.
I
was
hoping
to
do
the
same
with
my
son
when
he
became
of
age.
This
proved
to
be
too
difficult
to
obtain.
H
I
truly
hope
that
one
day
I
can
return
to
this
wonderful
area
and
its
exceptional
beauty,
safety
and
community
members,
tom
vasco,
so
you
know
we
take
so
much
pride
in
taking
care
of
our
youth
and
taking
care
of
our
seniors,
and
all
of
them
deserve
to
thrive
here.
I
just
don't
want
to
lose
them
to
other
cities
and
certainly
to
other
states.
H
Lastly,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
honoring
wilbert
ack
in
the
last
council
meeting.
I
hope
he
too
has
the
opportunity
to
thrive
and
stay
in
thousand
oaks.
I
hope
that,
with
projects
being
thoughtfully
considered
like
crusoe
lakes,
development
and
others
on
the
boulevard,
we
get
to
welcome
tom
and
his
beautiful
family
back
to
thousand
oaks
on
behalf
of
los
robles
hospital.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
B
C
Resident
a
part
of
a
thousand
oaks
and
a
former
mayor
and
council
member
for
over
60
years,
I
have
thorough
knowledge
of
the
need
for
multiple
family
housing
and
thousand
oaks,
and
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
over
40
years.
To
my
knowledge,
and
now
we
have
an
opportunity
to
address
at
least
a
portion
of
that
need.
C
C
Mr
crusoe
has
always
been
known
as
the
best
of
the
best,
and
I
think
that
this
project
that
he
will
be
faced
with
in
terms
of
development
will
be
just
exactly
that.
So
I
encourage
you
to
approve
this
project
and
let
it
be
amongst
the
other
fine
projects
that
he's
already
built
for
us
in
the
city.
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
B
Thank
you
good
evening
to
you
as
well.
Our
last
speaker
is
edmonds
heykian.
Would
you
please
also
identify
where
you
live?
Thank
you.
S
S
The
reason
why
I
speak
on
behalf
of
this
project
is,
I
have
heard
the
other
speakers
earlier
this
evening,
and
I
have
children
who
have
told
me
the
same
thing:
they
love
thousand
oaks,
it's
beautiful.
If
there
could
be
a
district
where
we
could
walk
and
go
to
go
to
shops
and
not
have
to
drive
a
car,
that
would
be
fantastic
for
us.
S
That's
what
this
project
entails.
That's
what
we've
looked
at
and
it
it
meets
that
guidance
that
we're
looking
for
for
beautiful
housing,
easily
approachable
easily
utilized
in
our
community,
where
we
can
have
walking
districts
where
people
can
engage
as
a
community.
I
fell
in
love
with
thousand
oaks
30
years
ago
because
of
the
beauty
of
the
community.
S
I've
stayed
in
thousand
oaks
because
of
the
heart
of
the
community.
It's
a
beautiful,
vibrant
place
where
people
care
for
one
another,
and
this
project
helps
us
to
reach
out
and
to
be
more
inclusive
of
those
who
can't
afford
to
live
in
a
multi-million
dollar
home.
They
can't
afford
to
buy
a
house
for
the
first
time,
but
they
can
be
part
of
our
community
as
a
renter
and
they
can
be
engaged
in
our
community
as
a
renter.
S
I
think
that's
important
for
us
to
remember
is
that
we
are
looking
for
people
who
want
to
continue
to
grow
in
our
communities.
This
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
bring
some
folks
on
board
again.
The
stories
that
we're
told
tonight
were
just
amazing
in
terms
of
we're
losing
a
doctor,
we're
losing
students
in
our
community,
we're
losing
people
who
grew
up
in
our
communities,
because
they
don't
feel
it
reflects
them
any
longer.
Let's
do
something
to
really
make
a
difference
for
them.
S
This
project
really
seems
to
fit
right
in
that
wheelhouse,
and
I
applaud
the
city
council
for
taking
the
steps
to
work
with
developers,
specifically
like
mr
carus's
fantastic
project
that
they
they
put
together
over
the
years,
but
working
with
all
developers
to
find
ways
to
make
things
more
approachable,
more
affordable
and
more
access
for
our
folks
in
our
community
and
those
who
want
to
stay
in
our
communities
for
those
children
who
have
been
born
and
raised
here
who
want
to
stay
here.
They
don't
want
to
leave.
S
They
don't
want
to
go
out
of
state,
they
want
to
be
in
our
community
because
they
love
our
community,
and
I
would
applaud
your
efforts
to
move
forward
with
this
particular
project.
And
since
I'm
standing
between
you
and
getting
out
of
this
last
conversation,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
thank
you
all
and
end.
My
conversation.
B
T
Thank
you
mayor
first,
I
think
I'd
like
to
just
start
by
thanking
everybody
who
took
time
out
of
their
night
to
come
to
council.
We
absolutely
appreciate
the
support
and
appreciate
everyone
taking
the
time
to
make
comments.
T
One
thing
we
heard
from
a
number
of
community
members
is
an
interest
in
making
sure
that
the
building
is
designed
in
a
sustainable
way
and
incorporates
green
building
features.
That's
something
that
we
take
to
heart.
We've
made
lots
of
notes
and,
in
addition
to
mayor
pro
tem
engler's
comments,
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
as
we
move
forward
in
the
process.
T
B
The
yeah,
the
comment
that
I
heard
the
most
often
is
that
we
need
workforce
housing
and
affordable
housing.
Mr
caruso
isn't
really
known
for
affordable
housing,
so
I'm
wondering,
but
you
did
commit
to
building
some
affordable
units.
Do
we
know
how
many
units
that
will
be
what
percentage
it
might
be
anything?
Can
you
reveal
anything
to
that
effect?.
T
We
don't
know
what
the
what
the
distribution
would
look
like,
or
what
the
percentage
set
aside
would
be.
We
just
haven't
moved
forward
in
the
process
far
enough
to
be
able
to
to
make
those
commitments.
I
think
it
would
be
premature
of
us
to
do
so
as
we
reach
out
to
the
community
and
get
more
input
from
them
we'll
you
know
we'll
be
starting
to
figure
out
what
the
bedroom
breakdown
looks
like
what
the
affordability
looks
like
what
the
parking
requirements
look
like,
and
all
of
that
is
going
to
going
to
sculpt
the
project.
B
C
Yes,
thank
you.
I
I
have
been
impressed
by
caruso's
commitment
to
electronic
vehicles.
If
you
look
electric
vehicles,
I
should
say:
if
you
look
at
the
promenade
there's
so
many
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
there.
It's
it's
amazing
chris.
How
many
charging
stations
do
you
have
at
the
promenade?
Do
you
happen
to
know
the
number.
T
C
I
think
they
are-
and
I
don't
know
the
number
either,
but
there's
got
to
be
at
least
a
dozen
or
so
and
I
think
they're
the
fast
charge
type
as
well.
So
it's
a
it's
a
very
convenient
addition
to
the
promenade
and
I'm
sure
we'll
have
things
like
that
at
this
project
as
well.
F
Used
to
that,
it's
okay,
just
a
a
comment
on
our
speakers
tonight
again,
I
think
we
had
a
very
a
very
good
group
of
speakers
who
brought
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
to
what
can
be
a
very
nice
addition
to
our
downtown
area,
and
I
thank
everyone
who
spoke
tonight
for
their
comments
and
their
perspectives
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
my
thoughts
on
the
project.
Like
everybody,
I'm
always
impressed
by
the
the
product
that
the
crusoe
affiliates
puts
out,
it's
a
well-built
and
well
well
constructed
locations.
F
F
We've
got
to
make
sure
our
parking
is
adequate
for
for
those
things
in
in
terms
of
the
way
I
look
at
it,
I'm
not
a
builder,
and
I
think
the
city
did
make
a
mistake
a
few
years
ago
in
trying
to
dictate
to
a
builder
what
they
thought
they
would
would
be
best,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
how
you're
gonna
approach
it,
whether
it's
for
sale
or
for
rental,
I
I'm
gonna
trust
that
you
will
bring
us
a
project
that
reflects
the
current
market
needs
within
the
city
and
that
that
will
be
reflected
in
how
you
come
to
us
in
a
in
a
year
or
so
with
your
final
project.
F
In
terms
of
I
I
was
reading
preparing
for
this,
I
was
reading
some
community
development
articles
and
books
having
to
do
with
a
quote
that
came
out
was
something
a
city.
A
city
should
never
have
growth
without
adequate
planning.
This
particular
project
has
had
at
least
four
plans
that
apply
in
that
area.
F
The
specific
plan
11,
the
civic
arts
development
that
came
out
in
the
late
or
early
90s
we've
had
the
sp
20
boulevard
plan
that
it
also
affects
in
this
area
the
downtown
core
plan
that
we
passed
a
year
or
two
ago
and
most
recently,
the
campus
master
plan.
As
part
of
that,
this
project,
in
my
opinion,
dovetails
very
well
into
how
all
those
will
be
knitted
together.
So
I
have
high
hopes
for
this
project
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
a
project
that
will
accomplish
all
that
we've
asked
for
tonight.
G
You,
madam
mayor,
my
thoughts
on
this
project
is
that
mr
caruso
and
his
team
have
repeatedly
done
quality
projects
that
come
down
the
theme
route
again
as
a
disney-esque
type
approach
to
allow
people
to
enter
into
a
new
world
every
time
they
go
into
one
of
their
building
and
construction
and
development
projects,
which
is
a
unique
aspect
to
their
company,
which
makes
it
so
appealing.
They've
done
great
projects
here
in
thousand
oaks,
as
well
as
other
parts
such
as
glendale,
pacific,
palisades
and
the
grove.
G
G
There
will
also
be
a
renegotiated
contract
here
with
a
let's
just
say,
a
poor
agreement
that
was
reached
years
ago
that
moved
this
project
forward
to
where
it
is
right.
Now
that
does
not
allow
both
mr
crusoe
and
his
team,
as
well
as
the
city,
to
see
the
true
manifestation
of
what
it
could
be,
and
I
hope
that
this
will,
in
the
course
of
negotiations,
bring
it
around
to
something
that
works
for
everybody,
their
desire
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases.
I
applaud
them
for
their
effort
and
look
for
every
opportunity
to
do
so.
G
We
get
increased
enhanced
value
to
the
city
by
bringing
such
a
beautiful
project
when
it
is
finally
done
to
the
location
which
enhances
the
city
and
what
we
have
to
offer.
That
said,
the
again
the
disadvantages
is
that,
right
now
we
have
inadequate
footprint
of
the
current
retail
and
restaurant
space.
That
does
not
make
it
profitable
for
both
the
city
as
well
as
mr
caruso's
company,
and
that's
a
shame.
G
I
don't
know
if
I
would
have
moved
that
forward,
but
what's
been
done,
but
is
now
done
and
let's
go
back
and
fix
it
do
a
better
arrangement
for
everyone.
This
will
create
increased
traffic
on
both
thousand
oaks
boulevard
and
kaneoh
school
road,
which
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
that
will
come
out
in
the
process.
G
The
apartments
are
near
free
but
near
the
freeway
again
from
a
health
perspective,
not
the
greatest
in
the
world,
but
that's
up
to
the
free
market
for
people
who
want
to
live
there,
that's
their
choice
if
they
want
to
live
next
to
the
freeway,
I
as
a
councilman,
not
going
to
say
whether
they
should
or
should
not
live
there,
that's
their
choice
parking
again.
We
talked
about
that
right.
Now,
we're
looking
at
approximately
over
three
football
field,
long
cars
that
need
to
find
adequate
parking.
G
The
challenge
is,
is
if
mr
caruso
moves
forward
with
the
project
to
address
that
state
mandated
allocation
of
1.6
cars
for
every
one
bedroom.
G
However,
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge
where
we're
going
to
put
these
other
cars
so
that
way
it
does
not
impact
the
streets
around
the
city
hall
area
and
that's
one
where,
if
you
increase
the
parking,
that's
going
to
reduce
the
profit
margin
for
the
building
and
I'm
hoping
there's
a
balance
that
will
occur
there
for
mr
cruz
and
his
team
to
to
address
that
issue.
To
go
over
and
above
what
the
state
allows
as
a
minimum,
but
realizing
quality
of
life
is
more
important
and
again.
G
I
now
acknowledge
that
adding
more
parking
is
going
to
reduce
the
profit
margin
and
what
wants
to
be
made
there,
and
I
hope,
there's
a
an
answer
in
there
for
for
all
of
us,
so
some
aspects
of
this
project
that
will
weigh
heavily
on
my
final
position
and
vote
on
moving
forward
with
the
final
evaluation
of
it
will
be
things
like
adequate
parking
to
renegotiating
the
package,
because
I
want
to
win
win
for
both
the
city
and
mr
crusoe
and
his
team.
G
What
exists
right
now
is
not
working
and
we
need
to
go
back
and
renegotiate
it
and
there's
an
answer
in
here
to
make
it
profitable
for
both
the
city,
the
city
residents
and
mr
caruso,
who
has
done
again
beautiful
jobs,
there's
going
to
be
no
three-story
building
on
thousand
oaks
boulevard
directly,
which
again
I
want
to
get
away
from
the
cave
feeling.
It's
going
to
be
back
towards
the
parking
lot
next
to
the
freeway
and
the
entrance
way
into
the
civic
arts
plaza.
G
So
that
is
one
that
still
allows
us
to
enjoy
our
beautiful
vistas
mountains
and
skyline
traffic
analysis
needs
to
be
done
with
the
density
that's
going
to
be
put
in
there.
That
again
will
come
out
in
the
process
and
consideration
of
other
features
that
mr
caruso
and
his
team
are
well
known
for
to
make
it
a
beautiful
looking
project.
I
am
full
confidence
that
that
will
take
place,
but
that
will
also
weigh
in
on
the
final
approval
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
and
that
will
weigh
in
on
my
final
decision.
G
G
It's
one
where
our
community
is
is
changing
over
right
now
solely,
but
it
is
happening
and
the
apartments
provide
that
opportunity
for
them
to
get
a
foothold
become
part
of
the
community
and
continue
on
to
save
up
to
purchase
a
house.
So
that
said,
I
look
forward
to
the
vote
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
Madam
mayor,
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much
councilman
member
mcnamee.
Okay,
any
other
comments.
B
N
N
They
go
back
to
a
long,
long
time
of
planning
and
council
following
through
and
now
we're
seeing
a
new
dimension.
In
my
opinion,
we
didn't
foresee
50
years
ago
that
we
would
be
having
a
problem
with
the
price
of
housing,
but
we
have
that
now,
so
we
have
to
adjust
to
that,
and
but
I
so
I
intend
to
support
the
project.
I
think
it's
a
little
too
dense
right
now,
I'd
like
to
see
it
less
dense,
I'd
like
to
see
condos
as
part
of
it,
so
people
could
get
a
stake.
N
N
But
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
in
conclusion
that
we
have
to,
I
believe,
have
a
balance
here
and
I
don't
think-
and
I'm
readjusting
my
thinking
a
little
about
doing
something
in
the
area
of
the
lakes
and
the
city
hall,
but
I
I
still
have
a
lot
of
reservations
on
density
and
traffic
and
the
number
of
cars,
but
without
going
any
further.
I
hope
that
we
have
a
project.
Comes
that
comes
back
that
I
can
support.
Thank
you.
C
One
please
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
caruso
company
for
maintaining
the
lakes
in
the
immaculate
condition
that
had
that
it
has
been
over
the
last
15
years
because,
let's
face
it,
this
has
been
a
challenging
site
from
day
one
originally,
as
we
have
discussed,
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
250
000
square
foot
center
with
a
lot
of
different
amenities
and
the
politics
of
the
time
squeezed
it
down
to
48
000
square
feet.
C
C
They
even
opened
up
a
ice
skating
rink
there
every
year,
just
like
that,
just
like
what
was
agreed
upon
so
now
we
have
the
very
unique
opportunity
of
revisiting
the
lakes
through
this
project
and
reviving
the
lakes.
Actually,
I
believe,
and
and
perhaps
hitting
that
critical
mass
and
having
it
having
a
catalytic
event
that
will
spur,
I
believe,
a
renaissance
of
the
retail
in
front
of
the
lakes
and
also
be
at
a
very
intrinsic
part.
Next
to
our
our
own
campus,
we've
already
invested
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
our
campus
master
plan.
C
I'm
excited
about
how
this
can
bolster
the
arts.
Needless
to
say,
our
our
theaters
are
suffering
at
the
moment.
I
don't
anticipate
that
forever,
but
to
have
a
consumer
base
right
next
door
that
can
that
can
participate
in
our
theaters
and
and
all
the
retail
businesses
around
the
area
is
just
incredible.
C
If
you
ask
me,
so
I
think
that
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
see
what
they
come
up
with
and
with
that
I'll
move
9c
that
we
we
give
the
units
to
the
lakes
project.
C
A
Yes,
if
I
could
just
I
believe
it's
recommendation,
one.
Oh.
B
B
F
B
B
B
I'm
the
only
remnant
from
the
2004
city
council
vote
in
which
the
lakes
was
approved,
2004
on
a
3-2
vote.
I
was,
I
did
not
vote
for
the
project
because
the
development
agreement
at
that
time
really
was
not
to
my
satisfaction-
and
it's
been
bothering
me
ever
since
for
almost
17
years-
that
we.
B
So
with
this
particular
opportunity
here,
I
see
another
opportunity
to
re-enter
into
new
negotiations
that
are
much
fairer
to
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
I
do
want
to
say
I
appreciate
that
the
hospital
is
hiring
medical
school
graduates
to
do
residencies,
but
medical
school
graduates.
They
leave
with
up
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
student
loans
and
I'm
not
sure
whether,
with
that
amount
of
student
debt
that
they
will
be
of
able
to
afford
an
apartment
that
will
be
potentially
three
thousand
dollars
a
month
or
so.
B
Nonetheless,
we
do
have
other
industries
in
the
area
that
will
be
able
to
afford
this,
and
I
do
want
to
give
direction
for
this
particular
endeavor,
which
is
to
really
provide
a
meaningful
amount
of
affordable
housing
units
on
on
this
property
that
is
owned
by
the
city
and
the
taxpayers
that
you
consider
not
going
above
any
height.
That
will
really
affect
or
impact
our
scenic
highway
corridor
and
will
preserve
the
vistas
and
all
of
the
other
points
have
already
been
made.
B
Regarding
traffic
and
and
lead
certification,
the
environment,
sustainability
and
all
that
so
really
with
this,
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
entering
into
a
better
agreement
with
the
caruso
company
and
I'm
sure
it
will
be
whatever
comes
before
us,
naturally,
a
top
project,
and
so
with
that.
The
maker
of
the
motion
has
final
comments.
Mr
adam.
C
B
More
comments,
no
more
comments.
Okay,
then,
madam
clerk,
can
we
please
vote.
C
F
B
D
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
bill
de
la
pena.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
evening,
so
my
report
on
the
next
meeting
is
actually
very
brief.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
two
weeks
from
tonight
on
the
23rd
of
february.
We
currently
have
our
next
community
commitment
award
and
we
have
yet
one
more
pre-screening,
and
that
will
be
the
project
at
one
baxter
way
from
kennedy,
wilson
that
we
will
be
hearing
that
evening.
D
That
is
all
we
have
on
the
docket
for
right
now
and
concludes
my
final
comments.