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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - September 26, 2023
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - 9/26/23
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B
Council
members
could
come
in
and
have
a
seat
we'll
get
underway
and
I
noticed
that
the
audience
got
very
quiet,
so
the
residents
have
been
very
well
trained
when
someone
speaks.
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that,
so
we're
going
to
call
this
to
order.
We
already
ended
our
closed
session
and
go
over
to
our
City
attorney
Tracy
Noonan.
To
give
us
a
report,
nothing
to
report,
would
you
come
up
with
something
better
next
time?
Thank
you
very
much.
All
righty
I'd
like
to
do
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Would
you
all
rise?
Please.
B
There
are
no
requests
for
continuance
or
any
public
hearings
we'll
move
forward.
We
have
some
special
presentations.
I
would
like
to
honor
and
pay
tribute
to
the
residents
we
have
here
from
Los
Robles
Hospital.
This
July
I
had
the
honor
of
attending
Los
Robles
hospitals
systems.
Third
white
coat
ceremony,
where
incoming
residents
were
presented
with
white
coats
and
welcomed
into
the
hospital,
and
our
community
40
individuals
were
welcomed
into
their
program,
bringing
a
total
number
of
residents
up
to
120..
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B
Los
Robles
had
the
vision
to
realize
that
we
were
going
to
lose
a
lot
of
our
doctors
here
in
the
community
and
one
of
the
best
ways
to
change
that
tide
was
to
open
a
Residency
program
because
whether
you
guys
realize
it
or
not,
60
of
you
or
more,
are
going
to
stay
here
in
this
wonderful
Community,
because
you'll
never
find
a
better
place
to
live.
The
other
is
it's
like
the
song
from
Hotel
California.
B
When
you
finish
your
residency
program,
you
can
check
out,
but
you're
never
allowed
to
leave
with
that
said,
we
have
tonight.
We
have
Gabriella
Sherman
chief
medical
director
of
Los
Robles
Hospital
System,
to
talk
about
the
importance
of
The
Residency
program
and
to
publicly
welcome
the
40
new
members.
Gabriella.
Would
you
please
stand
up
to
the
microphone
and
it
should
be
on
for
you
there
so
go
ahead.
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E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
warm
welcome
and
for
the
introduction,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
tonight.
Last
time.
I
was
here
was
actually
two
years
ago,
and
some
of
you
may
have
been
here
for
that
and
when
we
welcomed
our
first
inaugural
class
of
residence,
we
had
20
Internal
Medicine
residents
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
crowd
this
evening,
we've
grown
that
number
significantly
and
I'll
share
a
little
bit
of
that
with
you.
E
So
we
went
from
our
first
class
of
20
residents
to
now
having
83
residents
on
campus
you'll,
see
a
lot
of
brand
new
white
coats
and
and
young
fresh
faces
on
campus,
which
is
really
refreshing
and
by
2026,
as
you
mentioned,
we
will
have
approximately
actually
150
residents
on
campus
training
to
be
that
next
generation
of
Physicians
for
our
community
having
a
gme
program.
Fundamentally,
enhances
the
quality
of
care,
we're
able
to
provide
each
and
every
day
at
Los
Robles
and
to
patients
in
our
broader
Community.
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It
also
importantly,
trains
that
next
generation
of
Physicians,
who
will
be
here
to
care
for
all
of
us
one
day
for
the
years
to
come.
Most
studies
show
that
70
to
75
percent
of
residents
actually
State
a
practice
in
the
community
in
which
they
train,
which
is
great
news
for
us
here
in
Thousand
Oaks.
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We
have
residents
who
are
even
born
at
Los
Robles,
some
of
whom
volunteered
in
our
facility
and
are
really
excited
to
be
able
to
provide
excellent
care
for
the
entire
community,
I
think
having
gme
really
puts
Los,
Robles
and
Thousand
Oaks
on
the
map
for
clinical
Excellence
for
clinical
research
and
just
being
known
as
the
place
to
get
your
care
for
our
community
and
to
really
draw
patients
from
all
over
California
to
come
here.
I'd
also
like
to
introduce
Dr
Tacker
who's
here
this
evening,
he's
our
program
director
for
Internal
Medicine.
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B
You
thank
you
I'd
like
to
say
to
the
residents.
Welcome
to
a
fabulous
City
I
refer
to
Thousand
Oaks
as
the
gem
of
California.
We
hope
you
fall
in
love
with
the
city
and
seriously
stay
here
and
make
this
your
home.
We
are
very,
very
fortunate
to
have
Los
Robles
Hospital
in
our
community,
and
we
appreciate
all
the
energy
that
you've
put
into
developing
this
residency
program
that
is
so
vital
to
the
future
of
healthcare.
B
Here
with
that
I'd
like
to
do
the
following
is
to
ask
the
residents
to
come
on
down
to
the
diocese
right
here
in
front
you'll
join
their
council
members
for
a
memorial
photograph
that,
yes,
you
can
frame
in
your
own
Office
later
on
in
years
Council.
Would
you
join
me
in
front
residents?
Come
on
down.
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What
an
exciting
time
they
described-
medical
school
as
drinking
out
of
a
fire,
hydrant
turned
on
full
blast
and
residency
is
no
different.
So
congratulations
for
a
second
presentation
of
the
night.
We
have
Julian
Fleming
program
manager
with
the
County
of
Ventura
Human
Services
Agency,
who
will
provide
a
report
on
the
homeless
service
program
and
homeless
prevention,
feel
free
Julian
come
on
back
up
to
the
residents
here,
you're
welcome
to
say,
stay
in
and
enjoy
this
delightful
meeting
or
please
feel
free
to
go
and
help
other
patients
at
the
hospital.
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So
again,
my
name
is
Jillian
Fleming
I'm,
the
program
manager
for
the
County
of
Ventura,
Human,
Services,
Agency,
homeless,
Services
Program
here
in
the
audience
with
my
senior
manager,
Chris
Russell,
also
with
me
here
today.
So
just
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
having
us
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
program.
We
were
asked
to
speak
specifically
about
the
homeless
prevention
efforts
that
we
do
at
the
county,
so
we'll
dive
in,
and
do
that
so
just
to
start
a
little
bit
about
what
homeless.
Prevention
is
exactly.
F
So
it
is
part
of
the
homeless
response
system
really
geared
at
helping
people
who
are
at
risk
of
losing
their
housing
and
becoming
literally
homeless.
And
so
the
goal
is
to
prevent
individuals
and
families
who
might
be
facing
those
circumstances
from
from
becoming
homeless,
trying
to
to
keep
them
housed,
and
so
that
can
be
keeping
them
housed
in
their
current
housing
situation,
or
it
could
be
helping
people
move
from
one
housing
unit
to
another
without
having
to
experience
any
homelessness
in
between
and
the
the
services
for
homeless.
F
Prevention
would
be
both
Financial
Services
to
help
make
that
happen,
and
then
Supportive
Services,
like
case
management,
to
help
support
these
people
and
so
going
into
who
would
qualify
as
being
considered
at
risk
of
homelessness,
and
this
would
be
the
federal
definition
from
HUD
for
one
one.
Frequent
way
that
we
see
is
people
who
have
received
some
sort
of
notice
from
their
landlord.
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There
is,
of
course,
the
actual
eviction
or
unlawful
detainer,
which
is
where
a
landlord
is
going
through
with
court
proceedings
to
have
someone
removed
from
their
unit
or
people
could
be
issued
a
notice
to
vacate.
So
this
could
be
because
of
tenancy
issues.
It
could
be
because
the
landlord
wants
the
the
unit
back
for
their
own,
their
own
use
and
those
are
usually
a
30-ish
60
day
notice.
F
Again,
those
are
probably
the
most
common
situation
that
we
see
another
one.
That's
frequent
as
people
have
received
a
written
notice
that
they'll
be
losing
their
residence.
F
This
is
usually
people
in
a
little
bit
more
informal
housing
situation,
perhaps
they're
living
with
family
or
friends
and
they've
kind
of
worn
out
their
welcome
their
room
rental
or
something
with
not
not
such
an
official
lease
and
have
been
noticed.
Given
notice
that
they'll
need
to
leave
that
situation,
it
could
also
be
people
that
have
moved
multiple
times
in
the
past
60
days
on
what
people
may
refer
to
as
Couchsurfing.
So
someone
who's
kind
of
bouncing
around
does
not
have
a
Home
of
Their
Own.
F
I
mean
it
could
also
be
someone
who
may
be
exiting
an
institution
and
do
not
have
housing
lined
up
for
when
that
exit
is
coming.
So
this
could
be
people
in
a
transitional
housing
program.
Maybe
someone
who's
incarcerated,
someone
who's
been
in
a
hospital
or
a
Skilled,
Nursing
Facility
stay
and
their
exit
is
approaching,
and
so,
in
addition
to
those
different
housing
situations
to
be
considered
at
risk
of
homelessness,
someone
has
to
also
not
have
an
alternate
option.
F
So
they
don't
have
somebody,
you
know
family
or
friend,
or
someone
else
that
they
can
stay
with
on
a
long-term
basis
and
they
don't
have
financial
resources
or
a
support
network
to
get
them
out
of
that
situation
or
to
get
into
a
better
housing
situation,
and
so,
if
they
meet
those
kind
of
either
housing
criteria
at
the
top
and
don't
have
the
the
support
to
kind
of
prevent
the
loss.
That's
going
to
happen,
they
would
be
considered
at
risk
of
homelessness.
F
F
Do
you
want
to
give
the
caveat
that
there
are
additional
eligibility
criteria
for
our
program,
mostly
related
to
income
residency,
some
things
about
their
rent
and
rent
amounts
that
would
apply
before
people
are
automatically
eligible
for
these,
but
so
we
have
financial
assistance
to
provide
people.
This
can
be
helped
with
a
security
deposit.
F
You
know
that
can
be
a
really
large
expense
that
people
are
not
necessarily
prepared
to
pay
so
a
deposit
to
help
them
get
into
a
rental
for
people
who
have
gotten
behind
on
rent,
but
are
could
stay
in
that
rental
if
they
were
able
to
get
caught
up
in
current
their
landlord
wants
to
work
with
them.
We
can
help
with
rent
arrears,
and
then
we
can
also
provide
short-term
rent
assistance.
F
So
short
term
typically
means
a
couple
months,
maybe
up
to
a
year
or
18
months
on
the
long
end,
and
so
this
could
be
kind
of
ongoing
assistance
where
people
are
getting
some
support
with
their
rent
on
a
monthly
basis,
but
more
commonly
commonly.
For
us.
People
are
getting
a
little
bit
of
assistance
here
and
there
they're
maybe
doing
it
on
their
own.
Then
sometimes
something
happens.
Maybe
a
car
breaks
down.
F
Someone
is
out
of
work
for
an
injury
or
an
illness
for
a
period
of
time
and
they
get
behind
again
and
they
need
a
little
bit
of
support
and
then
they're
able
to
kind
of
catch
back
up
again
and
then
there
is
also
utility
assistance
available
through
our
program.
Sometimes
if
people
have
experienced
some
sort
of
financial
hardship
and
they've
gotten
behind
on
rent
or
they're
moving
into
a
new
rental,
they
may
also
need
help
with
the
utility
deposits,
or
they
might
have
some
utility
arrears
that
they
need
help
catching
up
on.
F
So
that
can
be
something
that
we
can
provide
in
certain
certain
circumstances,
and
so
the
financial
assistance
obviously
very
helpful,
very
useful
for
people
who
are
in
a
tight
financial
position,
but
I
think
what
we
kind
of
value
even
more,
is
the
support
of
services
that
follow
because
we,
you
know,
people
are
getting
into
the
situation
for
a
reason,
and
so
our
our
goal
is
to
work
with
them
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
has
been
going
on.
F
F
That's
typically
a
meeting
at
the
person's
home
at
minimum
once
a
month
for
six
months,
really
try
to
tailor
it
based
on
the
family
and
their
situation.
What
they
need.
So
sometimes
it
might
be
twice
a
month
or
once
a
week
and
it
might
go
on
for
a
year
or
18
months,
because
they
really
need
that
level
of
support.
And
so
again,
it's
kind
of
identifying
what
challenges
that
family
might
be
facing
and
helping
them
work
on
a
plan
and
get
connected
to
resources
to
to
get
in
a
better
position.
F
We
also
provide
housing
navigation.
So
we
have
a
woman
on
our
team
who
is
a
housing
strategist,
where
her
whole
goal
is
to
interact
with
landlords
in
the
community
work
on
engaging
them
meeting
new
landlords
that
would
be
willing
to
work
with
some
of
the
people
that
we're
working
with,
who
maybe
don't
have
the
best
credit,
maybe
have
some
tough
housing
history,
maybe
don't
make
three
times
the
rent
and
to
try
to
find
people
that
would
be
willing
to
work
with
our
program.
F
We
also
provide
landlord
mediation
and
advocacy.
So
sometimes
if
someone
has
gotten
behind
on
their
rent
or
if
there's
been
challenges,
I
can
you
know,
constrain
the
relationship
with
the
landlord,
and
so
our
social
workers
will
kind
of
help
you
that
liaison
or
mediator,
with
a
landlord
to
try
to
preserve
that
relationship.
F
If
it
looks
like
that'll
help
them
be
able
to
maintain
housing
and
again
the
whole
time
that
we're
following
up
with
the
the
household,
we're
also
able
to
follow
up
with
the
landlord
and
checking
in
and
try
to
be
a
support
for
them
too,
to
make
it
a
successful
housing
situation
and
then,
finally,
connection
to
resources
mention
that
people
have
different
challenges
they're
facing.
So
this
could
be
help.
You
know
getting
employment
resources
getting
connection
to
benefits.
F
And
then
just
to
share
a
little
bit
about
our
program
performance
with
homeless
prevention,
specifically
for
last
fiscal
year,
so
our
fiscal
year
runs
from
with
this.
Data
specifically,
is
from
July
1st
2022
to
June
30th
of
2023.
So
during
that
time,
the
homeless
Services
Program
had
four
different
grants
that
provided
homeless
prevention
assistance,
so
all
of
which
had
both
the
financial
assistance
and
the
Supportive
Services
that
I
just
mentioned.
F
So
between
those
four
grants,
we
served
132
households
in
total
that
breaks
down
to
404
people,
183
adults
and
221
children,
so
I
think
the
numbers.
You
know
it's
a
pretty
significant
impact
to
our
community.
A
lot
of
families
and
individuals
that
might
otherwise
have
been
in
the
streets
or
shelters
or
their
cars
that
we
were
able
to
keep
housed
can
see
spent
just
over
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
time
on
Direct
financial
assistance.
F
So
all
of
those
that
assistance
is
specifically
for
the
the
financial
piece,
the
support
of
services
where
they're,
regardless
and
then
I'm,
really
proud
of
the
success
rate
of
96
of
the
cases
that
we
closed
remain
stably,
housed
at
case
closure
and
so
case.
Closure
for
us
isn't
necessarily
a
specific
date.
It's
again
we're
providing
that
kind
of
individualized
service
based
on
what
the
household
needs.
F
What
could
be
six
months
in
it
could
be
a
year
in
really
try
to
keep
people
open
until
they
get
in
a
good
spot,
but
to
have
96
percent
of
the
people
close
with
us
successfully
is
something
definitely
very
proud
of.
I
think
shows
the
benefit
of
what
we
can
offer,
and
so
that
really
closes
what
I
was
going
to
share
just
the
final
slide
is
our
program's
contact
information.
F
This
is
our
general
phone
line
and
email,
so
this
could
be
used
both
if
anyone
has
follow-up
questions
or
if
there
is
anybody
who
may
be
in
need
of
services
could
reach
out
and
calls
and
emails
will
be
directed
routed
appropriately.
So
with
that
I
want
it
to
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have
MS.
B
G
You
mayor
yeah,
I'm,
really
glad
you
came
this
evening,
because
I
think
the
key
word
in
your
presentation
is
prevention
prevention.
You
know
David's
mentioned
that
many
times
about
the
dealing
with
homelessness,
the
best
ways
to
keep
people
in
their
home.
They
don't
have
homelessness,
and
here
on
our
level,
you
know
we're
very
concerned
about
homelessness
and
we've
we're
converting
a
motel
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing
we're
working
on
some
modular
housing,
but
those
are
for
people
that
are
already
homeless.
G
Your
program
keeps
people
in
their
homes
before
they
reach
that
state,
which
I
think
is
fantastic.
That
success
rate
of
yours,
too,
is
amazing,
96
percent
that
you
give
them
financial
assistance
to
have
been
able
to
remain
in
their
homes.
I
really
appreciate
that.
So
considering
the
critical
nature
of
homelessness
in
Ventura,
County
and
other
counties,
do
you
have
any
money
left
in
your
budget?
F
Yeah
I
think,
like
the
county
has
been
lucky
that
we
have
been
able
to
access
different
grants
and
kind
of
funding
sources
from
the
state
to
to
help
provide
these
services.
So
it's
not
just
County
funds.
You
know
we're
out
there
looking
for
resources
that
might
be
available
so
that
we
can
replenish
those
that
we
spend
and
that
we
maintain
the
ability
to
to
help
support
these
families.
It's.
G
Really
a
vital
service.
There
was
a
human
understanding.
There
was
a
study
I
think
it
was
by
the
County
of
Los
Angeles.
It's
a
five-year
study
on
homelessness
and
they
really
came
up
with
the
root
cause.
Was
people
being
priced
out
of
the
homes,
apartments
or
whatever?
That
they're
in
I
mean
if,
if
you're
being
charged
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
rent
for
an
apartment,
all
of
a
sudden,
it
goes
up
to
1900.
G
F
Yeah
I
mean
that
is
something
that
we
see,
unfortunately,
quite
a
bit
as
that
rent
increases.
Really,
you
know
they
take
a
toll
on
people.
People
are
living
on
some
tight
budgets
and
housing
here
is
quite
expensive,
and
so
those
rent
increases
can
really
be
impactful.
There
are
some
where
we
are
able
to
kind
of
fill
that
Gap
and
help
for
a
period
of
time,
always
with
the
goal
that
you
know
it's.
F
It's
not
forever
assistance
that
we're
helping
people
get
in
a
better
financial
position
or
come
up
with
maybe
alternate
plans
to
be
able
to
afford
it.
There
are
other
situations,
unfortunately,
where
we
may
not
be
able
to
assist
in
that
situation,
because
we
do.
We
do
look
at
the
sustainability
piece
and
have
to
realize
that
our
funds
are
not
forever.
You
know
that
we,
so
we
we
help
as
best
we
can,
but
certainly
it's
there
are
others
out
there
that
that
that
we
can't
always
assist.
G
Yeah
I
guess
you
have
to
judge
the
potential
success
rate,
because
you
know
you
want
people
to
stay
in
their
homes
and
you
want
to
be
able
to
assist
with
that.
Well,
you're,
really
providing
providing
a
great
service
and,
frankly,
the
good
education
for
me
and
I
hope
to
be
able
to
maybe
send
you
some
referrals
if
it
happens
to
come
up.
F
F
H
You
know
the
homelessness
and
interventions
and
homelessness
is
a
multi-level
interventions
and
you're
doing
something,
as
my
Council
colleague
said,
you're
you're
preventing
homelessness.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Just
a
couple,
quick
questions.
H
In
the
last
few
months
we've
been
discussing
senior
mobile
home
parks
and
those
types
of
facilities.
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
we're
concerned
about
here,
I
think,
is
an
increasing
number
of
older
citizens
who
are
having
increasing
difficulty
in
staying
in
their
homes.
Are
you
finding
that
same
type
of
situation.
F
Oh,
we
are
seeing
that
there
is
a
lot
of
seniors
and
older
adults
who
are
often
living
on
social
security,
or
you
know
some
other
fixed
income
where
the
it
is
a
challenge.
In
fact,
this
is
not
homeless
prevention,
but
we
have
another
program
that
we're
kind
of
just
implementing
kind
of
geared
towards
older
adults.
Kind
of
for
that
very
reason
that
we're
seeing
that
so
yeah
I
I
think
it's
fair
that
that's
happening.
County-Wide
and.
H
And
then
I
guess
my
second
question
somewhat
as
Mr
Adam
has
mentioned:
how
do
folks
access
this?
In
other
words,
is
it
through
the
Continuum
care
through
the
county?
How
would
we
tell
folks
to
access
these
benefits,
and
this
help.
F
Sure
so
we
participate
in
the
Continuum
of
Care
and
some
of
our
funding
does
come
through
them,
but
our
agency
is
kind
of
its
own
entity
and
so
that
contact
information
we
have
there
is
something
that
people
in
need
of
assistance
could
call
us
or
email
us
directly
and
so
just
a
little
bit
about
what
happens
is
that
we
have
some
staff
that
will
we
do
return
every
call
and
every
email
that
we
get
they'll
kind
of
do
a
brief
assessment
to
see
if
people
meet
some
basic
criteria
and
then
the
case
would
be
assigned
to
a
social
worker
on
our
team
that
would
really
kind
of
Deep
dive
into
the
situation
a
little
bit
more
and
help
kind
of
process,
their
their
application
for
assistance
and
determine
eligibility.
J
Thank
you
again
for
the
presentation.
I
have
two
questions:
one's
kind
of
piggybacking
off
Mr
Adams.
Are
you
having
to
turn
people
down
just
because
of
lack
of
either
support
infrastructure
or
Finance?
On
your
end,
are
you
guys
able
to
at
least
help,
because
it's
a
pretty
specific
group,
it
seems
like
that
you
guys
are
helping.
Are
you
able
to
help
everyone
or
is
it?
Are
you
at
Max,
Capacity,
I,
guess
the
easy
way
to
say
it.
F
F
In
regards
to
the
capacity
we've
been
lucky
that
we
have
been
able
to
access
kind
of
a
variety
of
Grants
and
funding
sources
where
we
have
not
had
to
recently,
at
least
for
the
past
several
years,
I've
returned
someone
away
because
we're
out
of
funding
or
we've
run
out
of,
like
Financial
Resources,
to
assist
I,
think
more
than
anything
that
sometimes
we're
not
able
to
kind
of
get
back
to
people,
maybe
quite
as
quickly
as
we
would
like
because
of
like
Staffing
challenges.
F
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
dealing
with
it,
and
so
but
weekend
we
don't
have
a
wait
list.
We
return
every
call.
We
do
get
people
through
if
they
meet
basic
eligibility
criteria
to
a
social
worker,
and
we
really
try
to
prioritize
where
we're
dedicating
our
time
and
how
we're
managing
that
with
how
urgent
someone's
situation
is.
So
if
it's
really
a
crisis
situation,
they
seem
eligible
to
try
to
kind
of
expedite
that,
maybe
more
than
someone's,
whose
landlord
might
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible
right.
J
J
Right-
and
this
might
be-
maybe
not
the
greatest
question
since
a
96
success
rate
is
so
high,
but
out
of
that
four
percent,
what
are
the
is
there?
A
common
struggle
or
challenge
that
you
see
that
maybe
is
the
greatest
hurdle
to
overcome,
but
I
mean
96
so
high?
That's
that's
out
of
this.
That's
so
good!
Well,.
F
Thank
you
but
I'm,
pretty
proud
of
it.
Yeah
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
would
say,
there's
a
there's.
A
common
one
I
could
pinpoint
there's
a
few,
maybe
more
common
reasons.
F
Yeah
but
I
yeah,
there's
not
like
a
top
reason.
I
could
say
that
is
the
most
common
I
could
maybe
look
at
our
data
a
little
bit
more
and
get
back
to
you
on
all
in
two,
though.
Thank.
I
It
mayor,
would
you
mind
if
I
addressed
Bob's
question
on
the
referrals
Jillian?
Do
you
also
take
referrals
from
2-1-1?
Is
that
also
a
resource
for
people?
Yes,.
F
Absolutely
so
two
on
one
tends
to
make
referrals
through
a
database
that
we
use
that
a
lot
of
other
homeless
service
providers
use.
So
yes,
definitely
two
on
one
as
well
connected
with
us
and
usually,
if
there's
another
homeless
service
provider,
who
maybe
isn't
able
to
help
or
doesn't
quite
do
what
we
do,
but
they
also
work
with
this
population.
They're
able
to
make
referrals
to
us
as
well
in
that
database.
B
Miss
Missouri.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
observation,
city
manager
and
myself
we're
going
to
bring
up
2-1-1.
That
has
become
my
go-to.
When
people
ask
me
questions
and
I,
don't
know
the
answer.
Two
on
one
they've
got
the
answer.
They'll
tell
you
where
to
go.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Mr
Newman.
K
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
for
not
only
for
your
presentation,
which
was
excellent,
but
but
also
for
this
preventive
service
that
you're
providing
and
the
preventive
part
is
so
important
because
it,
the
next
step,
is
so
much
worse
for
everyone.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I.
Don't
really
have
a
specific
proposal
or
question
so
much
as
an
Ask
as
you
continue.
K
This
96
success
rate
going
forward
if
there
are
things
that
the
county
can
do
or
we
as
individual
cities
can
do
to
strengthen
this
kind
of
approach
going
forward
and
on
a
regional
basis,
because
sometimes
this
is
a
regional
problem
and
not
a
point
problem.
If
there
are
things
like
that,
please
please
come
back
and
plea.
Please
let
us
know
what
what
those
would
be,
because
you
know
we
we're
in
relatively
good,
depending
on
who
you
speak
with
relatively
good
Economic
Times
now.
K
F
B
Fleming
you're
a
feeling
of
definite
Market
need
here.
Housing
has
become
such
a
critical
issue,
especially
with
an
eight
and
a
half
percent
inflation
rate
last
year
and
I
think
it's
higher
than
that.
If
you
include
food
and
energy,
so
staying
in
a
home
has
become
quite
challenging
for
many
families,
even
on
a
fixed
income.
B
With
that
I'd
like
to
say,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
update
and
wish
you
all
the
very
best
continuing
the
good
work
that
you
do,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
now
to
city
manager,
powers
for
any
additional
comments.
L
You
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
appreciate
you
coming
coming
down
both
of
you.
Well
as
we
wrap
up
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
of
of
privilege
here
to
acknowledge
a
member
of
our
team.
We
don't
get
to
do
this
very
often,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
if
senior
Deputy,
Tom
Fuchs
could
come
up
to
the
podium
here.
L
So
I
think
many
of
you
here
I
know
the
council
is
very
familiar
with
with
Tom,
but
Tom
has
been
promoted
and
we'll
be
departing,
the
Thousand
Oaks
police
department
and
and
moving
to
another
assignment,
hopefully
to
only
be
redeployed
back
to
us
at
some
point
very
very
soon.
L
If,
if
we
all
put
in
good
words,
but
Tom
has
served
on
our
vulnerable
population
officer
unit
for
just
under
two
years
and
I
can
say
unequivocally,
he's
made
a
transformative
impact
in
the
way
we
have
been
able
to
manage
and
address
what
is
the
greatest
challenge
for
public
service
today
and
he's
done
it
with
the
level
of
drive
and
humility
and
compassion
that
I
think
is
rarely
seen,
and
he
faced
some
tremendous
challenge.
L
I
just
want
to
rewind
the
council
back
to
when
Tom
came
into
this
post
and
and
just
in
October
of
21,
and
we
were
dealing
with
a
large
encampment
at
the
Jans
off-ramp
that
Caltrans
was
frankly
refusing
to
deal
with
and
despite
all
of
our
efforts
and
advocacy,
it
was
Tom
in
working
with
Chief
Paris
made
that
breakthrough
that
created
that
relationship
with
Caltrans,
which
resulted
in
getting
that
addressed
and
subsequently
allowed
us
to
to
take
a
proactive
approach
in
so
many
different
areas.
L
There's
so
many
stories
about
the
impact
that
he's
made:
balancing
enforcement
with
compassion
and
services
with
out
talking
to
concerned
citizens.
Anybody
that
had
a
question
wanted
to
talk.
Tom
was
there
throughout
his
tenure.
In
this
role
we
had
situations
where
we
had
private
property
encampments
and
him,
and
his
partner
would
literally
drive
to
the
private
property
owners
home
in
the
valley
out
of
town
and
have
a
filled
out
order
for
them
to
sign
that
they
could
run
back
to
the
court.
I
mean
going
above
and
beyond.
L
I
can't
I
can't
stress
enough
the
efforts
that
he
put
in
you.
Just
you
don't
see
it.
You
don't
see
it
every
day
and
I
would
have
been
remiss
not
to
have
him
come
in
front
of
this
group
and
just
acknowledge
the
remarkable
work
that
he
put
in
here.
I
Know,
Chief,
parasako's
Echoes
this,
along
with
the
entirety
of
our
executive
team.
It
has
been
such
an
honor
and
privilege
to
work
with
you.
L
We
are
super
excited
that
you're
moving
to
to
bigger
and
brighter
things,
but
hopefully
we'll
we'll
see
you
back
in
the
Thousand
Oaks
Police
Department
soon,
and
if
you'll
do
us,
the
honor
we'd
like
to
take
a
picture
with
you
up
front
and
we
have
a
little
certificate
for
you.
Of
course.
Thank
you.
Would
you
like
before.
I
L
M
B
B
H
Thank
you,
No
I,
I
Echo,
a
lot
of
what
our
city
manager
said.
Tom
Yura
were
very
great
asset
for
the
city
and
on
one
of
my,
my
ride-alongs
with
you,
we
we
saw
I
mean
you
know
all
the
all
of
our
people
who
are
unhoused
and
know
them
on
a
first
name
basis,
and
it
was
a
young
guy,
20
25,
walking
over
by
the
mall.
I
H
He's
talking
on
a
phone,
he
said,
oh
hold
on
the
cops.
Are
here?
Oh,
no!
No,
no!
No
he's
cool,
I,
know
this
guy
and
that's
the
relationship
you
had
with
our
unhoused
and
I
appreciate
how
you
brought
that
every
day
to
the
job
and
really
made
a
difference
in
town.
B
Now
you
may
go
if
you
wish
we're
going
to
item
eight
public
comments.
Madam
Clerk.
C
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Two
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining
and.
B
Madam
clerk
confirming
I've
got
two
here
on
the
list.
Is
that
correct,
excellent?
First
up,
we
have
three
minutes
again
at
15
seconds
to
go.
I
will
say
very
softly,
15
seconds,
so
you
can
wind
it
up,
because
I
will
call
the
next
speaker
and
then,
after
that
we
have
pentia
penty,
we'll
be
up
after
that
John
go
ahead.
Step
up
the
microphone
feel
free
to
begin
speaking,
when
you're
ready
and
we'll
start
the
clock
at
three
minutes
go
ahead.
N
N
N
N
N
N
So
let's
think
about
that.
Maybe
we
can
put
that
in
there,
because
it
is
a
little
bit
confusing
when
you're
going
through
the
application
process
and
looking
at
the
codes,
the
new
codes
for
sb9
and
adus
anyway.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
about
that.
Also
I
just
want
to
say:
I
love,
you
guys,
I'm
praying
for
you
guys
every
day
to
ask
God
for
assistance
and
making
the
right
choices.
N
B
O
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
I'm
here
to
my
name
is
pentia
churumi,
my
husband
and
I.
My
husband
grew
up
here.
I
moved
here
from
Germany.
We
have
two
children
that
go
to
Hillcrest,
Christian
School
right
here
in
Thousand
Oaks
and
we're
proud
residents
of
Thousand
Oaks
we're
also
first
time
Property
Owners
on
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard.
We
purchased
the
old
Arby's,
which
was
a
dream,
come
true
and
we're
turning
it
into
a
pediatric
dental
practice.
O
I
wanted
to
thank
I'm
here
to
show
my
gratitude
to
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
It's
an
honor
I
to
be
here.
I
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
everybody
at
the
city,
it
was
very
helpful.
The
process
of
getting
permits
was
very
stressful
for
us
because
it's
the
first
time
we're
doing
this,
but
everybody
was
helpful
and
last
week
we
had
an
incident
where
someone
tried
to
scam
us.
O
They
came
on
our
property
and
offered
that
they
had
some
leftover
cement
from
asphalt
from
a
neighboring
property
and
they
offered
to
fix
the
driveway,
which
is
very
bad,
and
we
had.
We
really
didn't
have
a
budget
in
to
fix
it
for
for
now,
and
he
said,
oh,
we
can
fix
this.
We
have
leftover,
material
and
I
said
here's.
My
number
I
have
to
go
pick
up
pick
up
my
children,
please
contact
me.
The
next
morning,
I
arrived
at
the
property
and
half
of
our
driveway
was
done.
O
It
looked
wonderful,
I
I
said
you
know
this
looks
very
expensive.
Can
you
please
give
me
a
price?
He
said?
Do
you
want
to
finish
the
rest?
I
said.
Obviously
it
looks
amazing,
but
please
give
a
surprise.
He
suddenly
said
forty
two
thousand
dollars
and
we
were
just
shocked.
O
I
told
him
that
I
cannot
make
any
decisions
on
my
own
over
five
thousand
dollars
and
that
I
need
time
to
think
about
it
and
discuss
with
our
partners
and
that
suddenly
became
very
pushy
and
you
know
and
I
said
please
stop
and
and
until
we
know
what
to
do,
anyways
I
made
one
phone
call
to
Mr
Sean
moradian,
the
the
president
of
Toba,
because
it
kind
of
I
was,
it
didn't,
feel
right
and
he
within
30
minutes
was
there.
He
said
these
people
are
doing
this
to
other
properties.
Apparently
they
come.
O
If
you
don't
pay
them,
they
put
a
lien
or
something
on
your
property.
He
was
there
within
30
minutes,
Mr,
Nader,
hey
Dari,
I
believe
also
was
there
within,
maybe
less
than
that,
and
immediately
they
tried
to
figure
out
what's
happening.
They
called
the
police.
The
police,
Thousand
Oaks
police
was
amazing.
They
arrived
there
within
a
few
minutes.
Two
police
cars
were
there
for
half
a
day.
They
protected
my
husband.
O
These
people
became
very
aggressive,
they
became
they
started,
threatening
my
husband
and
it
was
just
a
terrible
experience,
but
I
wanted
to
thank
you
guys
and
the
Toba
and
Mr
Sean
and
Mr
Hayden
Nader
and
the
police
department,
because
if
it
wasn't
for
them,
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
handle
this
situation
and
they
really
protected
us
and
helped
us
get
out
of
this
extortion
situation.
B
P
Yeah
I
mean
this.
This
one
I
mean
the
the
real
guidance
is
do
what
you
did
and
get
other
people
involved
that
can
that
can
help
out
so
as
I'm
really
glad
that
she
called
I
got
a
call
from
Mr
moradian
and
got
a
couple
sergeants
over
there.
So
yeah
she
did
the
right
thing.
It's
you
got
to
get.
Gotta
call
call
people
in
when
you
start,
especially
when
people
start
getting
aggressive
or
push
you
with
you.
B
Now
mind
you,
we
have
all
of
like
12
people
watching
right
now,
so
to
get
the
word
out.
If
perhaps
the
local
newspaper
would
give
you
a
call
and
interview
you
and
put
out
the
word
through
the
newspaper
I'd
like
to
turn
this
over
to
our
city
manager,
Drew
Powers,
absolutely.
L
I
was
just
gonna
Echo
the
same
point
there
that
yeah,
that
you
know
you
might
not
realize
it,
but
word
of
that
in
real
time
made
it
all
the
way
to
me
and
to
others
on
our
team
so
yeah.
We
knew
that
that
was
being
addressed
so
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
come
down
here
and
then
in
regards
to
John
your
comment.
I
know
Mr
Kearns
caught
you.
Hopefully
you
guys
can
chat
in
the
lobby
for
a
minute
or
or
find
another
time
he's
the
best
guy.
L
This
there's
no
question
in
the
world
that
the
state
of
California
has
made
housing
in
this
arena
with
sb9
lot
splits
and
the
overlay
of
ccnrs
and
HOAs
extremely
challenging,
and
so
we
can
help
wind
you
through
that
Steve's
our
planning
division
manager
be
happy
to
chat
more
detail
about
it.
So
thank
you
message.
B
We'd
like
to
send
out
from
the
city
is:
don't
try
to
come
here
and
do
scams
because
we
stand
behind
our
people,
our
senior
engineer,
Mr
hadari.
Thank
you
so
much
Chief
Paris,
please
thank
your
sergeants
and
everyone
else
who
responded
to
the
Toba
and
the
president
Mr
moradian.
Thank
you
for
so
much
for
caring
about
the
city.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that
story
with
us,
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
our
consent
calendar
any
questions
from
Council
on
the
consent-
calendar,
none
I,
don't
we
I,
don't
see.
Any
speakers
is
that
correct?
Excellent.
B
We
have
a
motion
by
a
council
member
Angler,
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
vote
council.
B
B
J
J
B
B
Excellent,
thank
you.
You
do
that
so.
Well,
let's
move
to
item
12
Department
reports.
First
one
we
have
Thousand
Oaks
Alliance
for
the
Arts
operations
and
programming
update.
We
have
David
Mead
T.O
Arts
chair.
Who
will
do
the
presentation
so
David
will
give
you
a
few
moments
to
get
set
up
and
please
proceed.
Q
You
good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
and
council
members
on
behalf
of
TR
Arts
I'm,
proud
to
present
our
report
covering
to
Arts
operations
and
programmings
for
the
fiscal
year,
ending
June
30th
2023.
Q
under
the
governance,
and
we
have
some
slides,
obviously
up
there,
so
that
we
have
an
ad.
A
hawk
nominating
Committee
of
the
board,
undertook
a
blue
ribbon
committee
process
whereby
they
invited
members
of
the
community
to
a
one-time,
90-minute
session,
to
learn
more
about
to
arts
and
to
have
the
attendee
suggest
people
who,
from
their
networks,
who
might
be
able
to
serve
on
the
board
and
with
that
we
were
intending
to
broaden
our
board
membership
beyond
our
own
personal
networks
and
come
up
with.
Q
You
know
more
differing
members
because,
as
you
know,
most
of
us
are
getting
older
on
the
board
and
so
we're
happy
to
announce.
This
year
we
invited
two
new
members
to
the
board:
Sean
rendonio
and
Elizabeth
Valencia
Munoz
to
join
the
board
and
we're
very
happy
with
how
that's
turned
out
with
them.
Q
On
a
sad
note,
unfortunately,
this
summer
has
been
a
tough
one
for
for
for
the
board
and
for
the
Thousand
Oaks
Community
as
a
whole.
We
not
only
mourn
the
loss
of
Bob
and
Patty
Berry
and
Bob
was
a
former
board
member
and
both
of
them
were
donors
to
Teo
Arts.
We
also
lost
two
dedicated
Advocates
supporters
and
board
members.
Kathy
Jeffers
Volks
joined
the
board
in
2020,
after
serving
as
president
president
of
the
angels
of
the
Arts
auxiliary
group.
Q
It's
also
fitting
that
we
are
presenting
to
you
tonight
as
your
journeying
tonight's
meeting
in
memory
of
Eloise,
Cohen
I,
know,
I
saw
Tom
and
Chuck
here,
thanks
for
being
here,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
miss
Eloise.
She
wore
many
hats
as
a
friend
supporter
Advocate
and
was
our
vice
chair.
She
her
involvement
with
Tor,
it's
the
alliance
and
the
theaters
cannot
be
overstated.
She
was
intricately
connected
to
the
Arts
and
education,
our
community.
All
of
them
are
going
to
be
greatly
missed
on
that.
Q
Next,
on
on
finance,
we
reviewed
and
accepted
the
annual
independent
audit
report
for
our
fiscal
year,
2021
2022
at
our
meeting
on
March
9th
of
this
year.
The
audit
report
provides
a
written
opinion
of
the
auditor
regarding
our
financial
statements
from
July
1
2021
through
June
30th
2022..
Q
In
addition,
I'm
sure
the
the
council
members
will
be
happy
to
hear
this
in
an
effort
to
reduce
our
Reliance
on
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
staff
for
day-to-day
operations
per
the
original
intent
to
the
merger
committee.
We
have
contracted
with
an
independent
bookkeeping
service
to
divest
the
finance
function
from
the
city's
finance
department.
Q
So
we're
happy
that
we're
starting
to
do
some
of
those
things
there.
Next
on
development,
we
hosted
our
annual
gratitude
reception
in
May
in
person
here
in
the
sheer
Forum.
We
successfully
surprised
former
council
member
and
arts
Advocate
Claudia
Bill
De,
La,
Pena
and
honored
her
with
our
lifetime
heart
for
the
Arts
award,
the
expression
on
her
face
when
we
announced
her
name
was
truly
Priceless.
I
mean
I
think
she
was
shocked,
but
it
was
a
well
deserved
and
award
for
her.
Q
We
believe
it's
important
for
to
Arts
to
be
engaged
in
and
support
the
community
and
in
a
variety
of
ways,
and
as
a
result,
we
are
sponsors
for
different
events
and
organizations
throughout
the
year.
Additionally,
our
associate
director
serves
on
the
Thousand
Oaks
rotary
scholarship
committee
and
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
greater
Canal
Chamber
of
Commerce.
She
also
graduated
through
the
chambers
leadership
Conejo
program
last
year.
Our
program
and
development
coordinators
participating
in
leadership
can
hail
this
year.
Also.
In
addition,
our
to
Arts
executive
director
serves
on
the
board
of
art
Direct.
Q
Next
we
have
some
information
on
our
programs,
our
first
program
access
Arts,
as
we've
discussed
before
with
you.
Through
this,
we
support
elementary
schools
to
provide
high
quality,
sequential
Arts
education
to
students
throughout
Ventura
and
Northern
Los
Angeles
County
this
past
year
to
Arts
provided
funding
to
local
elementary
schools
as
well
as
Port
Hueneme
School
District,
an
elementary
middle
school
district
of
7
500
students.
They
sought
to
create
a
strategic
Arts
plan.
Much
like
CVUSD
did
last
year
to
develop
scope
and
sequence
for
Arts
programming
across
all
grade
levels
closer
to
home.
Q
We
helped
Acacia
build
an
outdoor
stage.
We
provided
dance
lessons
at
West,
Lake,
Hills
and
Theater
Arts
at
Ladera
Stars
among
other
items
that
we
helped
this
year.
In
addition,
in
terms
of
a
teacher
professional
development
over
the
course
course
of
2022-2023
school
year,
local
elementary
school
teachers
received
three
and
a
half
days
of
continuing
education
to
use
Arts
integration
in
the
classrooms
to
teach
English
language,
arts,
social
sciences
and
support
social,
emotional
learning.
Q
By
empowering
and
educating
the
teachers
with
new
tools
and
skills,
we
can
exponentially
reach
thousands
of
students
who
will
benefit
from
these
new
ways
of
incorporating
arts
in
the
classroom.
Our
next
program,
kids
in
the
Arts.
Obviously
we
believe
it's
important
for
Arts
education
for
elementary
school
students
and
that's
one
of
our
main
things
we
do
in
in
TR
Arts
among
others.
Not
only
do
the
students
learn
from
watching
a
live,
theatrical
performance,
they
learn
how
to
participate.
Q
Last
year
we
were
able
to
provide
free
tickets
and
transportation
to
3
200
students
and
teachers
representing
34
schools,
to
see
two
different
School
shows
Grace
for
president
and
Grimm's
Fairy
Tales.
In
addition,
in
a
wonderful
new
partnership
with
Wesley
Women's
Club,
they
donated
and
delivered
the
book
Grace
for
president
to
all
20
classrooms.
A
week
before
the
performance.
This
additional
resource
was
very
well
received
in
the
classroom,
as
the
students
were
bred
or
prepared
to
experience
the
play.
Q
We
have
a
new
program
family
pack
that
we
started,
which
helps
families
make
lifelong
memories
at
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center.
This
program
provides
low-cost
or
complimentary
tickets
to
families
who
otherwise
would
not
be
able
to
attend
a
live
performance.
Last
year,
American
Theater
Guild,
which
is
Broadway
in
Thousand
Oaks
partnered,
with
to
Arts,
to
make
over
100
tickets
available
for
their
performances
as
well.
Q
In
partnership
with
the
Oxnard
Performing
Arts
Center
Foundation,
we
co-presented
catapult
Shadow
dance
and
made
blocks
of
tickets
available
to
local
community
organizations
to
give
the
families
they
to
give
to
the
families
they
support.
In
Total,
Tea
Arts
gave
away
or
subsided
over
1
000
tickets
to
11
different
shows.
We
are
continuing
our
relationship
as
a
fiscal
receiver
for
the
Young
Artists
Ensemble.
This
group
is
responsible
for
a
number
of
fantastic
Productions
presented
at
the
Hillcrest
Center
for
the
Arts.
As
you
were
all
likely
aware.
Q
Next
are
Olsen
performance
grants.
Again
we
were
thrilled
to
be
able
to
provide
grant
funding
to
our
resident
art
companies,
as
well
as
other
local,
non-profit
performing
art
groups
for
in-person
performances.
This
year
we
distributed
148
000
of
which
80
000
was
distributed
to
the
into
the
sorry,
the
resin
companies
and
three
resin
companies,
and
grant
funding
to
help
offset
the
cost
of
renting
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center
theaters.
Q
Additionally,
with
a
goal
to
help
the
resident
companies
to
build
greater
awareness
and
track
new
audiences
to
Arts
is
entered
into
a
three-year
contract
with
Consortium,
medium
and
marketing
from
Ventura.
This
project
encompasses
research,
development
of
a
strategy
and
the
implementation
of
the
strategy
to
engage
and
expand
their
audiences
and
help
them
attract
the
Next,
Generation
audience
and
audiences.
Q
Next
but
not
least,
we
have
a
teal
Arts
presents,
which
is
the
presenting
arm
of
of
the
theater.
Last
year,
we
presented
55
performances
between
the
sheer
forum
and
Fred
cavly
theaters.
These
performances
attracted
more
than
48
500,
patrons
I.
Q
Through
our
torch
presents
events,
we
provide
63
days
of
use
between
the
two
theaters,
also
in
addition,
additionally
represented
after
dark
at
Stagecoach,
a
fun
Festival
style,
Outdoor
Concert
Series,
which
features
an
Eclectic
and
unique
lineup
of
entertainment
at
the
at
the
stage
at
the
stagecoach
of
any
of
you
attended.
But
it's
coming
up,
I
think
next
month
or
oh
first,
one,
this
Friday
we'd
love
to
see
you
out
there
and
last
year
we
presented
four
shows
with
the
total
audience
of
approximately
a
thousand
people.
Q
Next
upcoming
and
I,
probably
already
just
I,
already
said
it.
We
have
to
Arts
after
dark
at
State
judge
coming
up
for
the
next
three
Fridays
four
Fridays,
this
Friday
and
then
three
Fridays
in
October.
Q
As
far
as
tors
presents,
we
have
48
shows
for
this
fiscal
year
and
Jonathan
and
his
team
continue
to
add.
More
performances
through
the
season
to
Arts
has
adopted
a
1.3
million
dollar
operations
budget
for
this
year.
In
addition,
we're
developing
new
programs
to
support
youth
in
the
Arts
in
diverse
and
relevant
ways,
in
addition
to
presenting
three
field
trips,
which
are
aligned
with
curriculum
and
new
this
year,
we're
hosting
a
week-long
storytelling
residency.
Q
Q
If
you
haven't
heard
the
story,
Disney
basically
has
put
it
on
hold
and
probably
never
coming
back.
So
our
great
team
of
people
decided
to
come
up
with
our
own.
You
know
basically
show
of
live
artists
and
basically
we're
getting
many
of
the
same
artists.
We
would
have
gotten
through
National
Geographic,
so
we
highly
suggest
you
come
out
and
see
those
it's
a
great
series.
Q
We're
all
also
excited
to
feature
performances
from
The
Guess,
Who,
The,
Blind,
Boys
of
Alabama
Tom,
Papa,
blippi,
Brian,
Culbertson,
and
so
many
others,
so
on
behalf
of
to
Arts
board
and
staff
and
the
millions
of
patrons
whose
lives
have
been
enriched
by
attending
performances
at
the
Bank
of
America
Performing,
Arts
Center.
Thank
you.
R
You
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Denise
Bean
white,
with
Consortium
media.
Thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
for
allowing
us
to
have
some
time
today.
Dave
is
a
tough
act
to
follow,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
with
Nikki
from
to
arts
and
also
Jonathan,
who
have
put
together
an
audience
development
program.
So
they
can.
We
can
really
locate
and
yeah.
Thank
you.
R
We
can
really
locate
and
build
awareness
for
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center
here
the
sheer
forum
and
everything
else
along
with
the
resident
companies,
it's
been
difficult
since
covid,
so
this
this
program
is
really
very
strategic.
It
has
goals,
it
finds
information
and
it
does
a
lot
so
our
first.
Our
first
goal
is
to
reach
new
audiences,
but
our
most
important
goal
is
to
take
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center
and
locate
it
directly
in
the
city.
R
R
So
this
is
designed
to
affect
that
there
are
some
audiences
less
engaged
they
may
go
to
one
event,
so
we're
going
to
look
to
have
them
go
to
more
events,
so
for
our
research,
if
you
can
see
here,
there's
some
some
small
lines,
which
is
the
box
office
information
about
where
the
audience
was
coming
from,
and
this
is
from
two
years
of
study
and
then
the
black
circle
around.
It
is
a
trading
area
that
we
have
set
up
so
that
we
can
specifically
Target
within
an
area
very
likely
to
attend
and
to
drive
here.
R
If
you
notice,
we
have
some
nice
density
on
the
right
side
just
over
the
border
into
the
valley,
and
what
was
really
interesting
is
how
amazing
that
training
area
is
because
marketing
dollars
are
very
difficult
to
come
by
and
everyone
talks
about
them.
But
if
you
focus
them
into
areas
where
they
hear
your
message
repeat,
your
message
understand
what
you
have
to
offer
they're
more
likely
to
drive
here.
R
So
we
didn't
really
have
all
the
research
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
look
at
what
are
some
of
the
issues
that
are
going
on
at
the
Civic
Center
and
also
for
the
for
the
resident
companies.
So
we
decided
to
partner
with
a
local
University
and
we
did
a
survey.
They
told
us.
We
could
expect
around
90
local
survey
responses
and
I
thought.
No,
that's
just
not
going
to
do
it.
It's
not
even
going
to
be
enough
statistics
to
make
it
reliable.
So
we
ask
a
lot
of
different
people.
R
We
ask
foundations,
we
ask
the
city,
we
ask
the
chambers
of
all
of
the
areas
that
that
do
come
to
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center.
We
had
991
responses
and
731
were
full
data.
They
gave
us
the
answers
to
each
of
the
questions,
so
it
was
postcovid.
So
we
know
now.
What
is
the
post
covet
audience
expecting?
R
R
So
what
are
some
of
the
issues
of
concern?
40
said
ticket
prices.
We
know
they
drive
to
Pantages.
We
have
that
research.
We
know
they
drive
to
Santa
Barbara
and
they'll
pay
150
to
175
dollars
for
tickets.
What
makes
the
Bank
of
America
Performing
Arts
Center
worth
only
60
or
less
that's
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
the
audience
development
survey
initiative
really
has
to
address.
The
other
thing
was
33
percent
say
they
cannot
find
information,
they
don't
get
enough
emails,
they
don't
see
enough
social
media.
R
They
don't
see
enough,
so
we're
developing
a
program
to
really
help
that,
and
next
is
this-
is
my
favorite
slide
of
765
people,
which
is
more
than
normal,
that
filled
out
the
the
audience
survey.
There
were
a
number
that
wanted
to
have
dinner
and
a
show
there
were
a
number
that
wanted
to
have
cocktails
in
a
show.
There
were
a
number
that
wanted
to
to
follow
with
their
friends.
R
What
that,
what
that
came
out
to
be
with
642
want
to
have
something
to
do
before
the
show,
and
they
actually
said
they
didn't
know
restaurants
here
they
really
didn't
know
how
to
do
that.
So,
luckily,
for
concerning,
we
had
already
planned
that
this
would
probably
likely
be
an
answer
on
the
survey,
so
we
went
ahead
and
put
together
and
asked
a
lot
of
shopping,
centers
and
others
to
partner
with
us,
so
Jan's
Marketplace
stepped
on
me
immediately.
R
It's
a
lovely
Marketplace,
it's
clean,
it's
safe,
excuse
me,
and
they
have
been
really
helping
us
tremendously
they've,
given
us
gift
cards
to
do
the
win,
a
dinner
in
a
show
that
we
know
people
are
looking
for.
We've
got
one
started
already,
and
it's
doing
amazingly.
So
it's
really
nice
when
you
can
come
together
and
build
the
financial
generation.
That
really
will
happen
if
we
can
get
people
coming
and
having
a
dinner
in
a
show,
a
cocktail
with
friends
or
wander
around
the
beautiful
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
R
B
Council
members,
any
questions
for
the
speakers,
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
that
the
Arts
adds
a
tremendous
depth
and
enrichment
to
our
city.
It's
a
quality
that
we'd
like
to
see
enhanced
even
more.
So
thank
you
for
the
wonderful
work
that
you're
doing
to
bring
the
Arts
to
the
residents
of
Thousand
Oaks.
Much
appreciated
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
the
council
members
if
they
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
receive
the
report
and
not
a
sequel
issue
here
or
anyone
so
moved,
Mr,
Newman,
Madam
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
vote
council.
B
B
Q
B
B
S
S
Three
of
the
city's
adopted
2021
to
2029
housing
element,
see
Title
IX
chapter
4,
article
37
related
to
Senate
bill
9.,
the
California
home
act
cleanup
items
to
be
consistent
with
state
law,
D
title
V,
chapter
17
related
to
massage
establishments,
massage
therapists,
the
practice
of
Massage
Therapy
related
to
business
licenses,
regulations
and
permits,
including
potential
changes
to
Title
IX.
Chapter
4,
which
is
zoning
e-residential
large
residential
large
family
day,
cares.
Oh
that's
section
9-42104
to
be
compliant
with
Senate
bill
234.
S
O
S
The
definition
of
Emergency
Shelters
to
be
in
agreement
with
recent
State
Law
changes
second
request
would
be
to
find
the
initiating
multiple
or
sorry
Municipal
Code.
Amendments
for
changes
to
the
city's
zoning
code
is
an
action
exempt
from
SQL
pursuant
to
section
1506
one
sorry
15061,
subsection
B3
of
title
14,
chapter
3
of
the
California
code
of
regulations.
S
S
Item
1A
is
being
requested
by
an
applicant
that
seeks
to
establish
an
allowance
for
private
schools
within
residential
Zone
within
a
residential
Zone.
This
allowance
would,
of
course,
require
an
approved
special
use,
permit
again
continuing
continuing
with
item
1A
cities.
Council's
initiation
of
the
MCA
will
authorize
direct
with
authorize
and
direct
staff
to
evaluate
the
item
by
reviewing
standards
from
other
jurisdictions
related
to
permitting
private
schools
and
residential
zones.
Such
an
analysis
may
include
impacts
associated
with
schools
and
residential
zones,
traffic
impacts
during
drop-off
and
pickup
times.
S
S
2023-7003-7005-7006-7007-7008,
allowing
staff
to
analyze
measures
to
bring
the
city
into
compliance
with
state
law.
Additionally,
it
would
also
allow
private
the
private
request
amendment
to
be
researched,
analyzed
and
presented
to
Planning
Commission
for
their
recommendation
to
city
council,
and
that
concludes
the
presentation.
Staff
is
available
for
questions.
Thank.
K
K
This
item,
which
is
to
start
the
discussion
on
that
item,
is,
is
what
tools
or
what
changes
to
the
municipal
code
Amendment
would
make
it
easier
for
staff
to
ensure
that
that
only
permitted
uses
are
actually
taking
place
and
and
that
we
can
more
quickly
crack
down
and
eliminate
any
illegal
uses,
because
the
law,
the
law
already
and
our
city
code
already
says
no
sex
accident,
massage
parlors,
state
and
federal
law,
both
say
no
human
trafficking.
So
this
isn't
we're
talking
about
things
that
are
already
illegal.
K
What
I'm
asking
is
what
what
do
we
need
to
change
in
terms
either
in
process
in
terms
of
process
or
in
terms
of
law,
to
have
what
what
we,
the
city
intended
when
we
issued
those
massage
parlor
permits.
S
That
thank
you,
council,
member
Newman
I'm,
going
to
start
by
answering
that
question.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
City
attorney.
It's
really.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
join
a
Cooperative
effort
from
other
departments,
other
institutions
within
the
city
to
better
monitor
these
practices
or
these
businesses
and
to
ensure
a
more
I
guess,
a
a
better
outcome
in
terms
of
the
operational
standards
and
I'm
going
to
switch
it
over
to
turning
a
little
talk.
Talk
more
about
that.
T
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
structurally,
the
municipal
code
is
going
to
be
very
similar
to
what
it
is
now.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
kind
of
marry
the
changes
in
the
law,
with
some
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
out
there
in
the
community
and
I
think
the
main
thing
is
updating
our
regulations
on
licensing
of
these
establishments
and
making
sure
that
they're,
following
through
with
the
rules
of
the
city.
K
T
K
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
twofold:
one
is
Mr
Slim
mentioned
improvements
in
process,
so
more
cross-department
communication,
so
planning
with
legal
planning
with
COPD
other
other
groups
to
to
ensure
Speedy
enforcement,
and
then
two,
as
you
said,
Mr
Duran
code
amendments
to
ensure
that
that
what
is
legal
is
permitted
and
what
is
not
legal
is
taken
care
of
quickly.
Is
that
a
fair
summation,
yeah.
K
Okay,
very
good
thanks
for
that.
My
only
other
question
is
on
the
bringing
the
code
into
alignment
with
sb9.
K
We
had
a
public
speaker
earlier
this
evening
who
spoke
about
the
confusing
situation
with
regard
to
what
governs
when
it
comes
to
sb9.
He
had
also
mentioned
adus,
but
but
we're
looking
specifically
here
at
sb9
I
I
had
understood
that
sb9
Exempted
HOAs
properties
within
HOAs
is
that.
Is
that
not
the
case
or
is
my
understanding
to
an
oversimplification.
U
I
can
answer
that
if
you
want
mayor
and
members
of
the
council,
I
I
think
what
you're
referring
to
is.
It
is
interesting
because
it
gets
confusing
as
as
time
goes
on,
with
these
various
laws
that
come
into
play.
You
will
remember
for
for
the
Planning
Commission
days
that,
with
a
solar
act
initially
initially
you
could
have
a
contract.
U
Hoa
could
could
control
that
and
then,
within
a
year
or
two,
they
changed
the
law
to
say
any
contract
that
prohibits
solar
is
void
as
a
matter
of
law
right
and
then
you
see
it
for
adus.
That's
literally
changed
where
you
weren't
able
to
modify
it
through.
A
private
agreement
like
a
HOA
or
ccnr
says
was
expressed,
and
then
you
have
sb9,
which
again
right
now
does
not
have
such
measures
right
now,
but
I
think
as
we
go
on
through
housing
laws,
those
again
might
be
changed.
U
We
we
I
can't
say
what
other
words
it's
going
to
happen
or
not,
but
it's
I
think
your
point
is
that
there's
changes
in
the
law
as
time
goes
on
and
they
make
clarifications
or
recommended
changes
as
as
they
see
how
it
presents
throughout
the
California.
K
Okay,
so
thank
you
for,
for
that,
walk
through
and
you're
quite
correct
about
changes
over
time,
but
I'm,
sorry,
but
I'm
still
unclear
I
understood
at
the
time.
We
were
first
talking
about
sb9
that
it
would
not
affect
properties
within
HOAs
that
that
was
off
the
table.
Is
that
still
the
case?
Or
is
that
not
the
case.
V
H
ccnr
skin
actually
prohibit
or
prevent
that
for
now,
as
as
it
was
explained,
State
Law
changes
over
time
and
just
like
adus
were
not
allowed
before
now
they
are,
they
cannot
be
prohibited
so.
L
D
D
K
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
would
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
by
my
colleague
on
the
massage
parlors
have
seen
that
this.
This
particular
code
coming
from
the
state,
may
assist
us
in
ensuring
that
the
businesses
are
legitimate
and
minimizing.
Some
of
the
non-desirable
activities
that
could
occur
is
that
correct.
W
Yes,
that
is
correct
with
this
opportunity.
We
have
the
ability
to
go
in
and
make
some
local
changes
to,
which
was
not
an
opportunity
that
we
had
before
being
that
it
was
so
heavily
regulated
by
the
state.
So
this
gives
the
council
an
opportunity
to
add
additional
requirements
or,
in
some
instances,
restrictions
to
prevent
illicit
activities.
Thank.
H
You
yeah
I
would
I
would
think
that
that's
a
probably
a
good
move
for
us
to
make
I
noticed
that
most
of
these
are
language
cleanups
on
state
law
that
has
come
down,
which
you
know.
This
is
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
we
stay
concurrent
with
the
state
directives,
there's
one
though
that
was
that
was
as
a
result
of
a
request,
and
that
was
the
religious
or
school
facilities
in
a
residential.
H
W
Is
excuse
me
that
is
correct,
so
there
is
an
existing
existing
Church
in
town
who
has
a
school
that
K-8
that
they
would
like
to
legalize.
In
order
to
do
that,
it
would
require
a
code
change
and
that's
just
the
function
of
the
zone
that
they
happen
to
be
listed
in,
which
is
R1.
In
this
instance,
in
our
zoning
code
we
allow
religious
facilities
in
many
residential
zones.
It
just
so
happens
that
this
one
does
not
specifically
allow
schools.
H
So
single
family
residence
zones
correct
so
this
this
one
entity
has,
you
know,
evolved
into
a
school.
Why
do
we
need
to
open
the
whole
a
box
of
signal
family
residents.
W
Residential
and
this
instance
is
a
bit
of
a
unique
circumstance.
It
happens
that
there
are
several
religious
facilities
that
currently
operate
with
schools
in
the
R1
zones
in
the
city.
There
are
vestiges
that
were
approved
by
the
county
prior
to
City,
incorporation
or
through
annexation
in
the
city
over
time.
So
in
this
instance,
it
really
would
be
allowing
this
particular
religious
facility
to
enjoy
the
same
rights
that
are
enjoyed
by
some
of
their
other
counterparts
here
in
town.
H
W
So
and
I'll
allow
Mr
Hero
to
speak
as
well,
so
in
this
instance,
it
may
make
sense
that
something
the
staff
has
to
evaluate.
If
city
council
allows
us
to
initiate
this
amendment
extensive
research
and
evaluation
of
a
code,
change
of
this
Nature
has
not
been
conducted
yet
being
that
we
haven't
received
the
green
light
from
Council.
So
if
we're
giving
the
green
light
tonight,
that's
something
that
we
can
come
back
with
to
provide
that
information
before
Council
has
to
make
a
final
decision
to
move
forward
or
not
with
that
particular
zoning
code.
Amendment.
U
And
let
me
add
that
that
when
you
look
at
this
initiation
and
to
your
to
your
point,
we
understand
your
point
I.
Think
as
we
go
through
the
investigation,
we
go
through
the
analysis.
We
come
up
with
what
would
make
sense
for
the
conditions
and
the
parameters
of
such
a
amendment
to
our
code
and
would
by
doing
those
conditions
and
amendments
and
and
specific
types
of
conditions.
Would
we
in
a
sense
control
a
little
bit
better?
U
How
much
we
would
see
from
this
type
of
use
going
into
the
residential
Zone,
the
private
and
private
schools,
so
part
of
that
is
just
exploring
okay.
This
is
what
we
would
recommend
as
if
we
wanted
to
go
that
direction.
The
types
of
of
conditions
or
requirements
that
you
would
have
to
meet
just
to
even
apply
for
it,
and
so
that
could
be
such
things
as
minimum
size
of
a
lot
to
maximum
size
of
a
lot
parking
issues.
U
Of
course,
various
factors
that
you
would
investigate,
and
we
would
also
look
at
other
other
jurisdictions
and
see
how
they
have
done
that,
because
it
is
common
in
other
jurisdictions
that
you
allow
this
type
of
use
in
residential
Zone
and
again
is
to
explore
that
and
say
what
are
the
pros
and
cons
from
those
jurisdictions
what
they
have
experienced
and
that
way
we
come
up
with
a
set
of
standards
that
we
could
present
to
you
as
part
of
then
bringing
it
back
for
a
decision
from
this
body.
D
D
It
would
apply
to
anywhere
in
the
city
that
has
that
zone,
but
to
Patrick
and
kelvin's
point
if
the
municipal
code
amendment,
in
other
words
the
zone
change,
is
initiated,
it
gives
staff
an
opportunity
to
look
at
what
types
of
what
type
of
criteria
would
would
be
best
suited
for
it.
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
would
be
automatically
permitted
in
every
area.
An
sup
by
definition
acknowledges
that
there
are
some
locations
where
a
type
of
use
is
appropriate
and
other
locations
where
it's
not.
H
I
just
know
on
numerous
occasions:
we've
we've
Exempted
a
code
for
a
particular
property
to
change
the
use
that
benefits
the
city
for
whatever
reason
on
an
individual
basis
and
I
don't
understand
now
why
we
need
to
open
the
entire
single-family
residence
neighborhoods
to
for
a
for
a
Zone
possible
zone
change
or
a
use
change
for
the
entire
single-family
residence
neighborhoods
that
we
have
many
of
us
up
here
have
said
we
were
going
to
try
to
protect
against
this
type
of
thing.
I
mean
the
state.
W
If
I
can
just
add
one
key
piece
that
we've
sort
of
talked
around,
but
it's
really
core
to
this
particular
issue
that
you're
raising.
In
this
instance,
we
received
an
application
from
a
private
party,
and
we
have
a
duty
to
process.
That
and
part
of
that
process
is
coming
forward
to
city
council
with
that
initiation.
W
At
this
stage,
and
as
our
City
attorney
and
chief
assistant
City
attorney
mentioned
by
the
nature
of
a
use
like
this
and
it
being
in
a
zone
that
is
sensitive
and
that
we
do
want
to
protect
the
an
sup
or
providing
appropriate
conditions
to
ensure
compatibility,
which
is
something
that
we
do
with
other
uses
that
have
the
potential
of
causing
impacts.
Beyond
its
borders
is
something
that
we
can
consider
and
evaluate
for
this
as
well,
but
being
that
that
application
was
submitted.
H
D
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
all
understand.
General
plans,
zoning
codes,
Etc
a
general
plan
again
is
a
general
designation.
So
when
we
process
General
plan
amendments
from
commercial
from
like
residential
to
commercial
or
commercial
to
residential,
or
what
have
you
it's,
it's
opening
up
an
opportunity
to
do
any
of
the
uses
that
are
permitted
in
there.
And
so
then,
once
you
have
your
general
plan
designation,
then
you
look
at
your
zoning
code
and
it
gives
you
a
list
of
uses
in
this
particular
case.
This
specific
use
is
not
permitted.
D
So
I'm
not
aware
of
any
time
where
cities
city
council
has
Exempted
a
a
business
or
a
use
that
is
otherwise
prohibited
by
our
zoning
code.
We've
definitely
processed
General
plan
amendments
to
change
a
property
from
a
a
specific
land
use
designation
to
another.
But
one
of
the
things
we
also
do
is
make
sure
we
don't
engage
in
what's
called
spot
zoning,
and
that's
where
you,
you
can't
take
a
piece
of
property
and
say
everyone,
you're
commercial,
but
this
little
teeny
tiny,
parcel,
your
residential,
that's
spot
zoning
and
you're
not
allowed
to
do
that.
D
You
have
to
have
some
like
commonality
of
it.
Sorry,
you
have
to
have
some
some
like
commonality
of
the
types
of
uses
in
the
area,
so
I'm
not
I'm,
not
aware
of
a
situation
where
we
have
Exempted
a
use
that
was
otherwise
prohibited
by
our
zoning
code,
but
if,
but
if
we
did
find
a
use
that
or
an
operation
or
a
business
or
something
that
was
being
done,
that
was
in
violation
of
our
zoning
code.
S
So
if
I
may
just
add
one
other
quick,
maybe
idea
here
or
concept
to
sort
of
digest
right
now
as
it
stands,
the
art-
let's,
let's
we're
working
with
the
R1
Zone
in
this
in
this
particular
case
for
this
particular
applicant,
and
that
R1
Zone
churches
or
institutions
of
worship
are
allowed,
so
religious
institutions
are
allowed
we've
contemplated
again.
This
is
very
early
in
the
stage
we
haven't
gotten
into
the
full
analysis,
but
we've
contemplated
this
being
again
as
a
complementary,
a
complementary
use
to
that
church.
S
That's
already
allowed
much
like
in
the
way
of
a
like
a
souped-up
daycare,
and
so
of
course,
with
that
you
know
we
have
to
analyze
the
impacts
of
that
another
another
limitation
we
were
considering
again
we're
very
early
in
the
stages
is
limiting
it
to
perhaps
up
to
the
eighth
grade,
which
would
eliminate,
for
instance,
considerations,
traffic
impacts
of
students
who
drive
again
it's
still
in
early
stages,
but
it's
something
to
contemplate.
Your
original
question
is
this
was
a
choice.
S
It
was
sort
of
the
path
of
sort
of
least
resistance
is
to
look
at
the
use,
Matrix
itself
and
not
to
change
the
zone
or
change
some
other
aspect
of
the
Zone.
It
should
be
noted,
however,
though,
the
the
general
plan,
designation
as
it
exists
today,
does
allow
this
use,
so
it
recognizes
the
use
of
schools
as
part
of
the
ordinary
fabric
of
the
residential
designation.
So
that's
important
to
know
so
we're
not
doing
anything
contrary
to
General
plan.
D
S
H
S
Here
so
there
is
kind
of
a
funny
situation
here.
This
is
simply
put
so.
Churches
which
is
existing
on
this
site,
are
allowed
in
in
most
the
residential
zones,
so
like
R1
through
I,
think
R3
for
it's
not
allowed
in
the
tpd
and
in
re
Okay.
So
we've
established
that
churches
are
allowed
in
a
residential
Zone.
However,
schools
are
not.
Schools
are
only
allowed
in
the
pl
Zone.
S
If
we
were
to
go
ahead
and
change
this
parcel
to
a
PL
Zone
to
allow
the
school
we
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
have
a
church,
so
we're
kind
of
caught
in
that
and
that
way
there's
a
paradox
is
we
can't
have
a
PL,
because
the
pl
Zone
would
exclude
the
church
and
where
we
would
be
allowed
to
have
a
school.
You
know
so
we
kind
of
back
and
forth.
So
the
use
Matrix
was
a
way
to
address
that.
W
H
W
Church
isn't
allowable
use,
not
necessarily
the
school
and
we're
bringing
it
Forward
specifically,
because
we've
received
an
application
from
the
applicant
to
try
to
legalize
that
use
there.
So
as
part
of
it,
we
would
have
to
evaluate
all
the
options
that
are
associated
with
that
and,
as
the
City
attorney
mentioned,
we
can
look
at
other
opportunities
for
maybe
reclassified
in
other
zones
or
evaluate
other
particular
sort
of
nuances
to
address
that
particular
issue.
H
I'm
a
little
confused
because
you
said
that
the
department,
the
primary
use
of
the
property,
is
as
a
religious
facility,
but
an
ancillary
use
is
they
can
have
a
school
so
again,
I.
Don't
understand
why
we
need
to
look
at
the
R1.
The.
W
Ancillary
use
would
need
to
be
approved.
It's
it.
It's
not
something.
That's
particularly
allowed
at
this
location
and
we're
simply
trying
to
evaluate
whether
that's
something
that
makes
sense
or
not,
and
ultimately
it's
a
policy
decision
that
the
council
would
have
to
make,
but
we're
simply
bringing
it
Forward,
because
we
received
that
application
from
the
applicant.
This
is
not
something
that
staff
initiated.
G
Jordan
yeah
thank
you,
mayor,
well,
I
guess,
since
private
schools
aren't
allowed
in
residential
zones.
Theoretically,
if
we
don't
amend
the
municipal
code,
the
school
could
actually
have
to
close,
couldn't
it
that
is
correct.
G
Okay,
maybe
we
better
do
that
then,
anyway,
getting
back
to
sb9,
which
basically
eliminates
single-family
home
zoning
in
the
state
of
California
and
allows
a
lot
to
be
split
into
as
many
as
four
units,
and
sometimes
eight
I
can't
imagine
any
CCR
ccnr's
here
in
the
city
that
would
allow
that
per
se,
so
Tracy
I
don't
know
if
I
got
got
it
straight
with
you
on
this.
Are
you
saying
that
sb9
is
silent
on
ccnr's?
L
G
D
A
CCR
and
I
didn't
allow
I
mean
who
no?
What
I'm
saying
is
that
the
sb9
statue,
for
example
the
solar
Rights
Act?
Clearly
in
the
beginning,
when
the
solar
Rights
Act,
was
approved
or
adopted
by
the
state
legislature,
it
too
was
silent
on
ccnr.
So,
even
though
it's
we,
as
a
city,
were
obligated
to
process
solar
permits,
solar
roof
permits
and
HOA
could
say
nope.
D
You
can't
do
it
here
and
then
State
Legislature
amended
their
solar
laws
and
specifically
said
that
any
private
contract
that
prohibits
it
gear,
you
know,
leaning
toward
you
know
basically
focusing
on
ccnrs-
is
also
null
and
voice.
So
they
specifically
brought
ccnr's
or
HOA
contracts
into
the
statutory
scheme
and
prohibit
it
with
sb9
we're
back
at
the
silent
stage.
It's
it
basically
doesn't
say
anything.
D
Remember,
ccnrs
are
always
you
know
the
way
that
the
the
whole
operating
mechanism
with
with
development
is
that
you
have.
You
have
your
city
that
says
you
can
do
X
and
you've
got
14
things
that
you
can
do,
but
then
an
HOA
might
have
something.
That's
stricter
and
that's.
Okay,
an
HOA
can't
permit
something
that
a
city
wouldn't
allow,
but
an
HOA
can
certainly
restrict
something
that
a
city
would
allow,
because
it's
a
private
contract
between
the
HOA
and
a
private
property
owner.
G
G
D
U
D
Is
additional
updates
that
have
occurred
to
state
law?
I
think
that
the
gentleman's
Point
tonight
was
that
you
know,
should
staff
remind
applicants
that
hey
just
because
you
know
we
permit
it.
We
give
you
a
permit,
for
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you
can
go
ahead
and
do
it.
You
need
to
check
with
your
HOA
okay.
I
G
G
Happens
actually,
oh
that's
very
interesting.
I
didn't
I,
didn't
really
know
that
and
just
one
other
thing
on
this
business
of
the
massage
establishments,
so
I
mean
I.
Think
I
was
around
when
that
it
was
the
California
massage
therapy.
Council
was
passed
and
that
kind
of
loosened
the
controls
we
have.
D
Abuses,
yes,
so
so
these
regulations
will
be
kind
of
in
two
different
buckets.
One
will
be
the
regulatory
bucket,
the
business
license
process,
you
know
permitting
process
and
then
the
other
one
will
be
in
the
land
use
context.
You
know
zoning,
you
know.
Where
would
we
allow
massage
establishments
prior
to
the
passage
of
1147?
Remember
with
the
laws
that
were
passed
in
2009
cities?
Were
cities
basically
were
preempted
of
any
type
of
enforcement
in
trading
massage
establishments
any
different
than
they
would
a
doctor's
office.
O
D
D
We
can
we've.
We
have
done
that
in
the
past,
we've
revoked
we've
revoked
licenses,
but
but-
and
we've
also
sent
notice
to
the
state
about
revoking
licenses
as
well.
One
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
have
learned
is
that,
if
you
revoke
a
say,
you
revoke
a
permit
for
a
particular
massage
establishment
for
doing
something
outside
our
regulations.
The
next
day
they
would
just
have
a
new
operator
in
the
same
location.
So.
A
D
B
B
This
could
be
the
parent
who's
got
a
teaching
credential
or
a
tutor
that
comes
in
that
also
takes
place
within
the
school.
They
also
fill
out.
A
private
school
affidavit
called
a
PSA
here's.
My
challenge
with
what
we're
doing
here
is
that
we
now
in
the
state
of
California,
allow
for
private
schools
to
exist
within
people's
homes,
so
much
so
that
different
models
have
evolved
where
they
may
have
one
home,
which
has
a
pod,
which
could
be
four
or
five
families,
putting
their
kids
there
and
they're
getting
homeschooled
right
within
the
residential
community.
B
My
point
being
is
that
we
already
have
private
school
education
going
on
within
the
homes,
Through
The
Homeschool
Market,
one
of
the
initiatives
that's
being
put
forth.
The
children's
Educational
Opportunity
Act
allows
for
a
credentialed
School
accredited
school
to
be
at
least
10
students,
and
that
could
take
place
within
someone's
home
to
allow
for
affiliation
with
other
students
to
come
in
they're,
referred
to
as
micro
schools.
B
What
are
we
able
to
do
to
accommodate
the
growing
homeschool
Market,
the
state
of
California,
recognizing
it
as
a
private
school
affidavit
in
the
private
school
happening
within
the
home,
with
these
regulations
that
we're
putting
in
place
with
the
R1
and
so
forth?
I'm
putting
this
out
to
you
because
this
exists?
It's
growing
they're
in
people's
neighborhoods
and
r1s
they're,
already
private
schools
recognized
by
the
state.
How
do
we
handle
that
with
the
regulations
we're
moving
forward
with.
W
W
B
W
B
B
S
So
I
I,
so
we're
talking
about
two
different
types
of
instruction:
I.
Think
what
we're
describing
here
with
the
homeschooling,
this
particular
use.
Matrix
change
wouldn't
infringe
on
that
it,
wouldn't
it
would
really
be
disconnected.
It
would
really
be
more
addressing,
like
I,
said,
we'll
just
get
into
the
very
start
of
analyzing
this,
but
we
can
get
to
the
point
where
we
only
have
this
allowance
as
again
as
an
Ansley
part
of
perhaps
an
existing
place
of
worship
or
any
new
place
of
worship
that
was
coming
in
and
have
it
limited.
S
So
the
focus
here
is
allowing
that
church
to
exercise
that
right
of
of
wanting,
like
you,
said
to
to
to
educate
the
children
and
whatever
the
nomination
or
whatever
way
they
feel
the
congregation
would
like,
and
that
and
that's
never
going
to
infringe
upon
the
other
options
that
we're
talking
about
and
I'm
someone
familiar
with
some
of
the
items
you
discussed.
So
there
shouldn't
be
any
kind
of
I
guess
impediment
to
any
of
that.
It'll
be
just
completely
like.
You
know,
unrelated
with
the
two
good.
U
Peter,
yes,
sir,
so
I'm
going
to
add
that,
as
as
initially
stated,
this
is,
if
we're
going
to
initiate
this
we're
going
to
look
at
a
number
of
of
issues.
And
one
of
those
is
going
to
be
State
regulation
that
we
have
to
use
with
schools.
For
example,
our
land
use
ability
our
local
authority
to
do
land
use
and
we
do
actually
monitor
and
sometimes
regulate,
home-based
occupations,
for
example,
and
to
some
extent
and
I.
Think
to
your.
U
Your
biggest
point
is
when
you
start
combining
homeschooling,
where
it's
really
not
a
homeschool
is
starting
to
create
more
of
a
of
a
community
kind
of
response
and
people
start
attending
one
particular
house
and
you're
starting
to
get
impacts
with
traffic.
And
those
are
things
that
we
would
have
to
analyze
and
would
be
part
of
that
analysis.
U
To
your
point
and
that's
because
we
have
these
competing,
but
sometimes
merging
kind
of
uses
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
analyzing
both
under
state
law
but
also
through
our
local
Authority
that
we
can
do
and
some
of
those
things
we
might
not
be
able
to
do
initiate.
Because
State
mandate
says
we
can't,
but
some
of
them
we
can
and
that's
more
of
our
local
land
use
Authority
that
we
have,
and
so
those
again
are
things
that
we're
looking
at
what
we
will
be
looking
at,
for
example,
the
traffic.
U
B
B
B
It's
unfortunate
that
there's
a
group
that
takes
a
very,
very
honored
profession,
called
massage
therapy
and
has
tainted
it
for
the
rest
of
the
quality,
massage
therapists
out
there,
I'd
like
to
as
a
form
of
dialogue
to
refer
to
it
as
a
massage
establishment,
the
massage
business,
the
massage
parlor,
is
condescending
and
does
not
characterize
the
massage
profession
in
a
favorable
way.
That
would
be
like
saying
a
dental
parlor
or
a
surgeon's
parlor
or
a
podiatrist
parlor.
B
Yes,
we
have
to
have
mechanisms,
as
Mr
Adam
discusses
about
pulling
the
trigger
if
they're,
actually
not
a
legitimate
therapeutic
massage
facility,
but
that
of
ill
repute
of
illicit
sexual
activities
which
may
have
human
trafficking
and
sex
trafficking
going
on
I'm.
The
biggest
advocate
of
trying
to
get
those
women
back
to
their
lives
that
they
had
once
before
and
get
them
out
of
that
environment.
K
This
is
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question
mayor.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
compliment
staff,
our
police,
our
sheriff
and
our
district
attorney
for
the
reason
that
we're
having
this
discussion
tonight
there
was
there
was
an
incident.
There
was
a
establishment
I
think
this
one
was
not
an
establishment.
It
was
doing
what
the
mayor
just
referred
to
as
illicit
activity.
K
Residents
brought
this
to
to
staff's
attention
staff
acted
on
that
staff
got
the
police
involved,
police
got
the
sheriff
for
the
D.A
involved
and
it
turned
into
a
much
wider
investigation
than
just
Thousand
Oaks
and
concluded
successfully
in
my
mind,
with
arrests
and
made
this
a
safer
Community
as
a
result.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
my
kudos
for
what's
been
done
so
far
and
I'm
glad
we're
talking
about
ways
we
can
make
that
process
easier.
Thank
you.
The.
B
Historical
perspective
on
that
Mr
Newman
is
that
on
next
door
someone
had
posted
the
website
and
some
of
the
wording
that
went
to
a
resident
that
was
sent
this
listing
on
next
door
to
friend
in
Simi
Valley,
who
showed
it
to
her
husband.
Who
knows
me
he
calls
me
and
next
thing
I
know:
I
get
the
text
with
the
images
I
called
city
manager
who,
to
his
credit,
responded
very
quick
as
well
as
Mr
or
chief
Jeremy
Paris.
Thank
you
for
responding,
so
quick.
B
My
frustration
that
I
had
and
I
understand
the
District
Attorney's
challenges
is
that
of
the
Venture
County
area.
There
were
77
under
investigation
in
various
stages,
not
enough
evidence
was
available
to
actually
go
in
and
make
arrests
at
a
good
number
of
these.
Some
did
have
raids
that
went
in
and
arrested
and
stopped
the
activity,
but
the
vast
majority
of
them.
B
They
basically
were
notified
the
landlord
saying
that
they're
violating
their
lease
and
to
discontinue
business
in
the
hopes
that
they
would
leave
the
county.
Unfortunately,
that
did
not
do
anything
to
rescue
and
return
those
women
who
may
be
sex,
trafficked
or
human
trafficked
back
to
their
family
in
a
normal
life.
That
was
my
challenge.
B
They
deserve
to
go
back
to
a
normal
life,
but
they're
not
so
all
we
did
was
move
the
problem
to
another
County.
Some
we
arrested
some.
Perhaps
we
returned
back
to
family
and
normal
environment
again,
but
that's
the
challenge.
Mr
Newman
and
everyone
else
here
on
Council
is
that
we
don't
have
the
resources.
Unfortunately,
we
do
the
best
we
can
with
what
we've
got
and
I
applaud
our
city
staff
Mr
Powers.
Thank
you.
B
We
did
a
good
job,
Mr
Powers
did
you
have
any
common
with
that
Madam
clerk
I
see
that
we
don't
have
any
public
comment
at
this
point?
Is
that
correct?
Yes?
B
G
B
H
Yeah,
we
usually
we
do
discussion
on
the
motion
if
there's
a
motion
but
I'm
I'm,
fine,
with
the
updates
on
all
the
on
all
the
regulations
that
have
come
down
from
the
state
but
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
can't
for
the
life
of
me
think
why
we
would
impose
a
sweeping
change
or
single-family
residence
neighborhoods,
a
potential
sweeping
change
that
we
would
impose
it
on
ourselves.
H
We
we've
taken
hits
on
the
sb9.
Sb9
is
ministerial
approval
of
lot
splits,
adu's
ministerial
approval.
There
are
a
number
we
have
Residential
Care
Facilities
approved
without
any
input
from
the
city.
We
have
rehabs
rehab
homes
approved
without
any
input
from
the
city.
Why
would
we
open
the
door
for
this
and
I?
Don't
know,
I
mean
I'm
fine
with
all
the
other
ones,
but
this
one
I
think
is
too
broad
a
net
that
we're
casting
to
try
to
address
what
is
an
effect.
H
We
we
talk
about
a
religious
location,
but
that's
not
what
we're
looking
at
in
our
staff
report
we're
looking
at
R1
residential,
an
entire
zoning
classification
that
may
be
changed
so
as
I
go
back
to
my
original
thought.
Why
are
we
doing
such
a
wide
net
when,
in
fact,
it's
we're
trying
to
address
specific
locations
I,
don't
know
why
we
would
do
that
that
to
ourselves.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
want
to
concur
with
my
my
colleague,
council
member
Engler
on
this
and
that
I
think
there
is
a
bit
of
a
Wag,
the
Dog
situation,
if
you
will,
where
the
the
folks
who
are
in
residential
R1
zones,
author
properties,
with
a
reasonable
expectation
of
living
in
R1
zones
and
changing
that
after
the
fact
is
something
we
have
the
power
to
do.
But
but
we're
really
not
talking
about
as
councilman
ringler
is
has
clearly
pointed
out.
K
K
Further
we're
talking
about
what
Mr
Parker
called
an
ancillary
use
to
something
that
R1
already
permits,
which
is
religious
establishments,
we're
not
talking
about
a
different
class
of
school
that
the
mayor
talked
about.
That's
something
different
and
that's
out
of
scope
for
the
discussion
before
us
here
we're
talking
about
what
to
do
with
these.
Currently,
this
small
handful
and
and
currently
application
is
number
number
one
of
non-conforming
uses
and
so
I
think
there
is
a
as
I
said
at
the
outset
of
tail
wagging
the
dog
kind
of
quality.
K
B
Any
other
discussion
we'll
move
the
vote.
K
K
B
B
Up
we
have
the
12C
Canada's
cannabis
operation
update
so
yourself.
Thank
you
for
your
good
work
on
this
representing
the
C
staff.
To
present
the
report
is
Melissa
Hurtado
assistant
to
the
city
manager
Melissa,
when
you
get
settled
in,
please
feel
free
to
begin,
but
we
also
have
Chief
assistant,
City,
Attorney,
Patrick,
eher,.
X
Good
evening
mayor
McNamee
and
City
Council
Members
last
year,
city
council
approved
an
amendment
to
the
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal
Code,
to
allow
for
sales
of
adult
use
cannabis
by
our
two
retail
dispensaries.
At
that
meeting
staff
was
asked
to
return
in
one
year
to
provide
an
update
on
cannabis
operations.
X
So
our
two
cannabis
operators
have
reported
that
the
addition
of
adult
use
cannabis
was
critical
to
the
Vitality
of
their
businesses.
They
have
experienced
growth
in
revenue
and
both
businesses
report
a
stable
employee
base,
legendary
Organics
has
13
full-time
and
one
part-time
employees,
Leaf
has
20
full-time
and
five
part-time
employees.
The
revenue
increases
have
also
resulted
in
tax
revenue
to
the
city.
That
is
three
to
four
times
the
amount
it
was
prior
to
the
implementation
of
adult
use
sales.
X
The
city's
finance
department
is
planning
on
conducting
Financial
audits
in
the
next
calendar
year,
so
each
of
our
two
retail
operators
were
inspected
for
compliance
with
the
requirements
set
forth
in
the
Cannabis
ordinance
and
their
respective
operations
agreements.
One
of
the
two
facilities
was
overall
in
compliance
with
the
requirements.
One
facility
had
not
implemented
One
requirement
and
the
operator
staff
and
Thousand
Oaks
police
department
will
be
getting
together
to
discuss
the
matter
and
work
on
a
resolution.
X
The
Thousand
Oaks
Police
Department
reported
that
there
were
no
calls
for
service
to
the
two
dispensaries
that
were
directly
related
to
the
Cannabis
operations.
Earlier
this
month,
gopd
conducted
an
operation
in
which
they
attempted
to
purchase
and
have
cannabis,
delivered.
2
000
Oaks
by
businesses
who
did
not
have
Thousand
Oaks
business
tax
certificates,
so
companies
that
are
State
licensed
are
permitted
to
deliver
cannabis.
2000
Oaks,
provided
that
they
maintain
a
city
business
tax
certificate
and
provide
certain
information
such
as
vehicle
and
Driver
information.
X
Three
Delivery
businesses
were
cited
for
the
violation
of
this
section
of
our
municipal
code
at
the
well.
The
city
council
had
previously
approved
an
operator
to
open
a
Cannabis
Testing
laboratory.
Due
to
several
reasons.
The
selected
company
Atlas
qal,
did
not
move
forward
with
completing
their
permit
to
operate.
The
city
has
not
received
any
new
interest,
specifically
for
the
operation
of
a
testing
Laboratory.
X
The
Cannabis
ordinance
permits
up
to
two
Testing
Laboratories
within
the
city's
jurisdiction
staff
recommends.
We
maintain
this
number
for
this
foreseeable
future,
so,
as
you
saw
in
the
staff
report,
the
there
have
been
several
amendments
to
the
Cannabis
ordinance
over
the
years
and
the
current
Municipal
Code
allows
for
two
retail
operators
and
two
Testing
Laboratories.
But
city
council
does
have
the
discretion
to
consider
expanding
the
number
of
operators
and
allowing
different
types
of
business
activities
such
as
manufacturing
or
distribute
distribution.
X
While
there
have
been
some
recent
inquiries
from
parties
interested
in
opening
additional
retail
dispensaries,
we
have
not
received
any
inquiries
for
additional
types
of
uses,
so
Stop's
recommendation
tonight
is
to
receive
this
report
and,
if
counsel
is,
has
so
wishes
to
provide
direction
to
staff,
to
explore
options
to
amend
the
Cannabis
ordinance.
X
As
noted,
we
had
specific
requests
from
parties
interested
in
opening
commercial
retail,
but
no
other
expressed
interest
in
other
types
of
cannabis
operations
under
state
law,
so
both
Mr,
Heater
and
I
are
available
for
questions,
as
we
also
have
Chief
Paris
from
the
Thousand
Oaks
Police
Department.
That
is
with
us
tonight
that
can
answer
additional
questions.
Thank.
J
This
seems
to
be
perfect
timing.
Mr,
angler
and
I
were
in
Sacramento
last
week
for
the
national
league
of
cities
event,
and
we
both
ended
up
in
one
of
the
rooms
about
cannabis
in
the
industry
where
a
lot
of
city
council
members
were
there,
and
there
were
a
couple
questions
or,
in
some
cases,
complaints
that
we
kind
of
heard
over
and
over
so
I
kind
of,
want
to
ask
what,
if
our
experience
as
a
city
is
similar
to
theirs.
J
J
X
I,
don't
think
not
being
in
the
industry
myself
I
can
answer
that
we
actually
do
have
one
of
our
retail
operators,
David
McFarland,
with
a
leaf
group
with
us.
If
you
do
have
questions
about
for
sort
of
Industry
perspective
on
whether
or
not
they
feel
they
have
being
undercut
in
that
in
that
way,
but
having
only
two
dispensaries
in
our
city,
we're
not
hearing
a
lot
of
that
chatter
going
on
in
in
you
know,
in
our
in
our
end
of
the
world,
okay,.
U
And
let
me
also
add
just
that
when
we
initially
adopted
the
ordinances
we
also
adopted
in
the
next
the
next
year
at
the
Cannabis
tax,
and
that
is,
could
go
up
to
six
percent,
but
right
now
it's
at
four
percent,
so
that
is
something
in
which
again
was
standard
throughout
the
industry.
When
we
were
adopting
that
number
and
so
again
for
the
local
jurisdiction.
We
are
very
reasonable,
in
my
opinion,
based
upon
looking
at
across
the
state
as
a
whole
for
the
local
jurisdiction
again
with
the
state
adding
their
own
taxes
and
regulations.
J
It
was
multiple
cities
talking
about
how
they
just
kind
of
opened
the
doors
in
a
sense,
and
they
were
very
hopeful
that
you
know
the
booming
economy
was
going
to
kind
of
bleed
over
to
the
growth
of
the
city
and
from
what
it
sounds
like
it
sounds
like
the
industry
as
a
whole
is
going
through
a
pretty
tough
time
right
now,
and
so
what
you
heard
over
and
over
from
many
council
members,
was
one
we
were
kind
of
looking
forward
to
what
it
could
become
and
right
now
we're
all
feeling
the
pain
of
it,
where
we
have
more,
whether
it's
operators
or
retailers
that
are
struggling
in
this
time
than
thriving
and
so
I
guess.
J
My
question
to
to
you
is:
do
you
feel
like
we're
at
a
at
a
good
balance
right
now,
or
do
you
feel
like
there's
just
a
ton
of
demand
demand
that
we're
not
capturing,
because
just
hearing
that
opinion
over
and
over
I
think
my
concern
would
be
I
want
the
businesses
that
come
into
our
community
to
succeed
and
so
how
we
kind
of
roll
that
out
I
think
is
it's
important
to
be
strategic
with
it.
L
Let's
talk
for
a
point
off
the
top,
because
I
think
it's
important
from
a
policy
perspective,
because
this
the
Cannabis
policy
has
spanned
multiple
councils.
At
this
point
and
I
think
we
were
at
this
Council
in
particular,
was
one
of
the
first
out
of
the
gate
to
address.
L
In
in
Ventura,
County
and
I
think
have
struck
some
reasonable
equilibrium
through
that
process
and
adapting
where
it
needs
to
be
working
with
our
providers
to
bring
the
adult
use
component
forward
when
that
was
clearly
a
challenge
dealing
with
the
change
to
delivery,
which
happened
Midstream
in
this
process,
so
I
think
what
has
happened
for
those
communities
that
you
spoke
of
that
went
all
in
is
that
the
rules
changed
dramatically
around.
A
L
U
So
let
me
add
that
when
we
started
this
process
years
ago
now,
we
were
initially
focused
on
medicinal
cannabis
right
and
and
that
policy
of
of
providing
that
for
as
a
source
for
the
Ventura
County,
the
East
Ventura
County
residents,
who
came
numerous
times
to
council
to
express
their
need
for
medicinal
medicinal
cannabis.
Instead
of
having
to
go
all
the
way
to
the
valley
for
that
use
right.
So
the
the
tax
issue
or
that
number
really
wasn't
a
major
factor.
It
was
a
factor.
U
We
of
course
discussed
competition
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
right
and
I
will
say
that
I've
looked
at
other
cities
and
what
happens
when
you
have
an
influx
of
so
many
of
them,
and
you
have
some
jurisdiction
in
which
the
like
you
said
they
went
all
in
right.
They
said
hey.
U
This
is
a
great
tax
revenue,
we're
going
to
come
in
here
and
we're
going
to
add
as
many
as
we
can
all
types
of
different
licenses
and
then
one
they
don't
have
the
capacity
for
the
number
of
people
to
use
it
right
and
then
what
happens
that
they
start
undercutting
each
other.
And
then
what
happens
is
the
one
that
goes
out
of
business,
says:
okay,
well,
black
Market's
still
available,
and
you
know,
and
and
now
you
have
that
whole
issue
right.
U
U
The
previous
topic
right,
and
so
it's
very
difficult
to
find
locations
that
are
available
in
the
M1
Zone
that
meets
all
the
requirements,
including
the
sensitive
uses
that
might
be
nearby
and,
as
Council
knows,
we've
had
a
number
of
times
where
it
was
difficult
to
find
the
right
location
and
the
second
location,
the
second
operator
Leaf.
They
had
I
think
three
or
even
four
locations
before
they
found
the
one
that
they
could
get
into
for
a
number
of
reasons
by
the
way.
But
that's
what
makes
it
difficult
as
well.
J
So
I'll
finish
up
with
this,
then
for
the
council
that
was
here
before
me
and-
and
you
know,
I
know
firsthand
now
how
hard
the
staff
works
on
on
the
reports.
What
I
was
hearing
in
that
room
was
nothing
like
we've
experienced
here
so
I'm,
very
thankful
for
the
policy
that
I
mean
you
before
me
have
put
in
place.
We
have
a
good
thing
going
on
with
this
city,
so
good
work.
B
H
Engler,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
just
as
a
side,
one
of
the
cities
that
was
mentioned
in
our
in
our
group
I
believe
had
63
distributors
in
a
town
of
about
65,
000
people
and
the
result
of
that
was
cannibalization
of
each
other,
but
the
they
went
back
to
the
city.
Looking
for
Relief
on
the
on
taxes
and
things
like
that,
just
to
try
to
stay
in
business,
we
took
the
opposite
pact
here,
approved
to
to
vendors
for
our
for
our
products.
H
Here,
I
heard
someone
describe
our
vendors
as
the
Apple
Store
of
of
cannabis
Distributors,
that's
that's
the
type
that
we
looked
at
so
I
think
I
have
just
a
couple
questions
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
good
shape,
I
know
when,
when
we
first
decided
to
do
this,
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
on
whether
this
would
lead
to
underage
sales
and
underage
usage.
Has
there
been?
Has
there
been
a
noticeable
increase
in
either
of
those
two
things
underage
sales
or
any
underage
usage?
None.
U
Of
those
two
facilities
certainly
not
reported,
it
is
important
to
know
that
they
have
to
obviously
check
and
they're
very
restricted
that
because
of
the
operations
agreement,
so
any
violation
of
that
would
would
make
their
agreement.
You
know
at
least
subject
to
cancellation,
and
they
definitely
want
to
avoid
that
again
with
cannabis.
You
have
a
number
of
of
situations
which
might
be
citations,
but
not
related
to
these
two
cannabis
facilities,
specifically.
H
U
I
I'd
have
to
go
look
at
the
citations
that
we
have
received
as
far
as
locations.
I
certainly
would
say
that
there's
probably
going
to
be
locations
where
the
citations
are
are
being
issued.
That
might
be
near
a
facility,
but
it's
it
would
be
definitely
hard
to
pinpoint
it
to
one
particular
facility.
So
again
we
want
to
be
careful
about
that
again.
U
Just
like
alcohol
or
other
issues,
you
can
have
people
who
get
alcohol
for,
for
example,
from
a
store,
and
then
they
immediately
go
to
a
parking
lot
and
they
open
it
up
and
and
they're
doing
something
illegal
based
upon
law.
H
P
When
we
make
any
marijuana
rest
in
the
city,
we're
not
typically
asking
where
people
got
it
from
they're
pretty
closed
mouth
about
that,
as
you
can
imagine,
if
they
do,
that
information
is
used
confidentially
to
go
bust.
Drug
dealers,
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
pass
it
on,
but
we
haven't
received
any
reports
of
people
complaining
that
from
like
other
businesses
or
other
the
neighbors
of
those
businesses
that
people
are
using
the
product
there.
H
P
B
B
B
B
Let's
move
to
Council
discussion,
then
Mr
Adam.
G
Thank
you,
mayor,
yeah
I
was
around
when
this
whole
thing
started
and
you
have
to
remember.
Historically,
we
were
approached
strictly
as
a
in
regards
to
Medicinal
cannabis
in
a
human
humanitarian
way.
Some
people
were
suffering
with
different
maladies
and
they
really
believe
that
the
Cannabis
would
help
them.
So
we
did
go
along
with
opening
a
couple
facilities
to
offer
medicinal,
but
it
wasn't
long
after
that,
when
those
facilities
came
back
to
us
and
said
we're
turning
away
50
percent
of
the
people,
because
they
don't
have
a
municipal
medicinal
marijuana
card.
G
I
think
they're
very
well
run,
but
I
one
of
the
questions
in
the
staff
report.
Would
we
be
in
favor
of
any
more
and
I
personally
would
not
be
in
favor
of
the
proliferation
of
any
more
cannabis
establishments.
At
this
point,
I
think
the
two
that
we
have
are
sufficient
and
I
think
they're
placed
well
in
a
in
a
good
location.
I
think
they
run
very
well
and
for
for
me,
I
think
that's
my
limit
here
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
B
I'd
like
to
complement
the
facilities,
we
have
having
taken
a
tour
and
seeing
the
beautiful
facilities,
the
interior
they're
in
Newbury
Park
up
in
the
industrial
area,
so
it's
up
and
out
of
the
way.
Thus,
you
have
some
control
over
who
comes
in
and
who
goes
out
with
the
Ingress
egress
beautiful
facilities,
Interiors
terrific.
There
are
quality
controls
they
go
through
on
the
product
coming
in
highly
compliment
them
for,
for
the
look
of
the
store
again
we're
talking,
26
sales
taxes.
This
emerged
here
in
our
state.
B
One
of
the
arguments
that
municipalities
had
was
that
this
is
a
great
Revenue
generator.
We
can
tax
it
well,
as
you
find
in
economics,
if
you
attack
something
way
too
much,
the
black
market
grows
because
they
can
buy
the
same
product
at
a
lesser
price.
It's
what
I
refer
to
as
Nordstrom
versus
Costco.
B
B
We
would
again
have
increased
tax
revenue
for
for
the
cities
the
camel's
nose
got
in
under
the
tent
under
the
guise
of
medicinal
marijuana,
and
yes,
there's
quality
studies
out
there
that
show
there's
medicinal
benefit
for
some
conditions
with
marijuana.
The
National
Institutes
of
Health
should
and
is
right
now
doing
studies
to
look
at
where
it
can
be
applicable
to
that
population.
They
should
have
access
to
it
because
there's
medicinal
benefit
to
it.
Challenges,
though
it's
a
schedule,
one
drug
right
up
there
with
crystal
meth
LSD
and
heroin,
which
has
no
therapeutic
benefit.
B
What
has
resulted
after
making
this
legal
is
that
we've
had
an
increased
amount
of
grow
houses
because
they
want
to
get
into
the
market,
because
the
market
has
expanded
and
exploded
by
making
this
legal
in
Northern
California,
for
example,
day
laborers
standing
out
at
Home
Depot
or
picked
up
in
advance.
Thinking
that
those
day
laborers
are
going
to
go
paint
a
house
they're
taking
two
hours
into
the
hills
in
Northern,
California
and
they're,
made
into
slave
labor
to
grow
marijuana
with
no
way
of
getting
out
they're,
basically,
human
slaves.
B
By
getting
people
elected
from
their
group,
we
have
illegal
purchases
that
are
being
made
because
they're
searching
for
the
lowest
price
for
that
marijuana,
because
if
the
best
you've
got
is
twenty
dollars,
if
you
go
to
one
of
these
wonderful
facilities,
we
have
that
are
legal,
it
costs
you
100
and
all
they
have
is
20..
They
do
that
and
I.
Remember
the
chief
of
police
here
mentioning
how
we've
had
a
number
of
crimes
that
took
place
in
the
transaction
of
these
illegal
sales,
where
someone
was
robbed.
B
B
We've
had
in
my
book
practice
working
with
the
public
increased
divorces,
spouses
that
decide
that
they
just
want
to
sit
around
smoke
pot
all
day
and
get
the
feel
good.
There's
children
in
high
school
and
middle
school
that
are
getting
access
to
this
because
it's
more
readily
available.
Yes,
they
can't
sell
to
anyone
under
18
years
of
age,
but
yet
they
get
access
to
it
because
there's
more
on
the
street
now,
because
it's
legally
purchased
by
someone
over
18
and
they
get
it.
B
B
B
B
It's
included
in
the
pharmacopo
yeah,
it's
regulated
by
the
Board
of
Pharmacy
in
the
state
of
California,
is
distributed
by
the
pharmacies
we
already
have
in
place.
The
mechanism
is
there
plus
the
sale
of
marijuana
is
now
able
to
be
deposited.
The
the
monies
the
revenue
is
able
to
be
deposited
in
the
bank
and
a
federal
bank.
B
B
B
H
B
G
B
B
B
H
Wow,
if
we
get
back
to
the
subject
at
hand,
we
we
have
a
a
motion,
I
think,
to
make
on
our
recommendations
from
our
from
our
staff
on
accepting
the
report
and
giving
any
feedback.
H
My
my
feedback
would
be
that
a
similar
to
Mr
Adam
is
that
we
currently
have
a
working
system
that
is
working
within
the
state
law,
providing
our
residents
with
an
approved
and
safe
product,
as
opposed
to
many
of
the
things
that
you
talked
about,
which
are
illegal
drugs.
You
can
get
illegal
Valium
on
the
street
too.
That's
cut
with
Fino,
so
I
I
think
we're
comparing
apples
with
with
watermelons.
H
So
the
thing
before
us
tonight
is
whether
we
should
expand
this
Pro
this
process
here
or
whether
we
should
continue
on
with
what
we
have
except
the
report
and
keep
our
eye
on
this.
This
business
in
town
and
I
would
motion
for
that.
H
B
K
I
think
one
of
the
important
points
to
make
in
the
in
the
report
I
hope
all
my
colleagues
will
grasp
this-
is
that
I
think
we're
less
than
a
year
into
adult
use,
marijuana
and
and
around
the
same
time
frame
I
think
for
home
delivery.
So
it
is
relatively
early
days
we're
still
evaluating
this,
and
and
for
those
reasons
on
on
my
from
my
perspective,
I
would
support
the
comments.
K
Councilmember
Engler
and
council
member
Adam
made
about
about
keeping
things
where
we
are
now
given
that
it's
only
been
a
year
or
less
under
the
current
regime
and
I
think
that
current
regime
seems
to
be
working
okay,
so
for
that
reason,
I'll
support
the
motion.
Thank
you.
B
To
conclude,
with
Mr
Adam
I,
remember
in
our
discussion
that
a
council
member
did
say
that
we.
O
B
D
H
J
J
L
Thanks
Mr
Mayor
next
meeting
will
be
the
10th
of
October
and
we
will
have
just
as
a
heads
up
to
the
public
we're
going
to
actually
do
a
little
bit
of
an
interesting
five
o'clock.
Rather
than
a
closed
session.
We
have
West
ripples
hospitals
coming
in
5
p.m,
that
evening
to
do
an
abbreviated,
CPR
training
as
part
of
preparedness
month
and
so
to
get
the
chance
for
the
council
to
get
refreshed
on
that
and
some
other
staff,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
out
there.
L
We
do
have
currently
slated
two
public
hearings
that
we're
working
through
our
our
inclusionary
housing
program,
non-residential
development
linkage,
fee
update
and
an
appeal
to
a
Planning
Commission
decision
on
a
proposed
30
unit
apartment
complex,
that
is
at
179
herbs,
Road
also
working
on
a
couple
of
additional
Department
reports.
But
the
main
focus
is
those
public
hearings
for
now
Mr.
L
No,
it's
it
is
done
in
in
conjunction
with
preparedness
month,
but
also
I,
think
you
know
what
I
had
a
pretty
sobering
conversation
with
one
of
your
colleagues
earlier
this
summer,
who
had
an
experience
in
their
office
where
someone
had
an
acute
event,
and
it
was
a
it-
was
sort
of
a
good
refresher
and
a
reminder.
It's
an
opportunity
to
do
this.
Thank.
B
You,
sir
tonight
we
are
adjourning
in
memory
of
a
prominent
Community
member
aloise
Cohen,
who
passed
away
in
early
August
Alois.
There
were
leadership
and
energy
was
a
community
advocate
with
an
unwavering
dedication
to
the
Arts
and
supportive
cultural
institutions,
including
the
construction
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Civic
Arts
Plaza.
B
She
and
her
husband,
Chuck
Cohen,
former
Thousand
Oaks
mayor,
where
the
Conejo
Valley's
first
couple
for
many
years
embodied
the
spirit
of
leadership
and
philanthropy
leaving
a
legacy
of
artistic
enrichment
within
Thousand
Oaks
in
2017.
They
were
honored
by
the
Association
of
fundraising
professionals
as
volunteers
of
the
year
as
the
daughter
of
the
late
Reverend
Dr
Raymond
Olsen,
who
served
as
the
second
President
of
the
California
Lutheran
Eloise,
grew
up
as
part
of
the
campus
community
and
graduated
from
what
was
then
California.
Lutheran
College
in
1971.
B
Eloise
enjoyed
a
professional
career
in
private
practice
at
the
family,
counseling
center
of
the
Oaks,
and
was
the
assistant
director
of
the
Harold
Stoner
Clark
lectures
at
clu.
Ese
was
closely
involved
with
the
clu
Center
for
non-profit
leadership
and
was
founding
advisoring
board.
Member
and
donor
Alois
was
vice
chair
of
the
to
Arts
board
of
directors
and
serves
since
its
Inception
in
2017..
She
was
a
long-serving
member
of
the
to
Arts
predecessor
organization,
the
alliance
for
the
Arts.
B
B
Karen
was
employed
by
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
As
a
member
of
the
accounting
team
and
won
recognition
as
a
reliable,
dedicated
worker
Who
provided
extraordinary
service
to
City
residents.
She
interact
with
throughout
her
career
in
the
city,
public
works
and
finance
departments.
Karen
was
promoted
several
times,
including
to
accounting
specialists
in
2008.
B
B
Karen
made
amazing
creative
homemade
birthday
cards
was
an
expert
in
the
craft
of
crocheting
and
delighted
in
decorating
her
cubicle
with
plants
creating
her
own
miniature
Forest.
She
consistently
volunteered
to
raise
funds
to
improve
the
lives
of
cancer
survivors
by
participating
in
the
city's
Relay
for
Life
team.