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A
E
I'm
here,
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
go
and
talk,
hey
bill.
Go
ahead,
how's
everybody
this
evening,
yeah.
C
E
I'm
kind
of
talked
out
from
a
busy
day
of
of
meetings
and
whatnot,
but
I
appreciate
you
having
me
here
this
evening.
I
I
yeah
awesome.
G
C
What
I
don't
think
we
have
time
to
adjust
your
audio.
Yours
is
just
a
little
hot,
so
maybe
try
not
shouting,
but
you're
good.
All
right,
good.
Two
we're
two
teams
about
to
go,
live
in
about
three
minutes
guys.
We
will
be
playing
these.
If
everyone
looks
for
the
to
tv
pin
me
there's
a
feed
among
all
the
squares
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says
to
tv.
Pin
me
if
you
click
on
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dots
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right
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corner
or
you
double
click
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it.
C
If
you
have
a
touch
device,
that'll
pin
the
device,
that's
how
you'll
be
able
to
watch
and
follow
the
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entirety.
That's
how
you'll
be
able
to
see
the
votes.
You'll
be
able
to
see
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and
please
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way
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
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open,
claudia
you'll
be
able
to
see
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open.
The
two,
the
city
council,
video
open
and
after
that
we'll
go
to
the
wide
shot
of
the
mt
forum,
and
then
you
guys
can
commence
the
meeting.
I
Now
is
the
time
for
all
good
men
to
come
to
the
aid
of
their
party
four
score
and
seven
years
ago
our
fathers
brought
forth
all
right
we're
good.
Thank
you
very
much,
ed.
A
A
J
J
A
E
J
Item
number
four:
we
do
not
have
any
requests
for
a
continuance
or
a
public
hearing
item
so
with
that
we
will
go
to
number
five,
which
is
special
presentations
and
today
is
indeed
a
very
special
presentation.
In
fact,
it
is
one
about
the
the
covet
update
to
be
given
by
our
city
manager
drew
powers,
and
it
is
also
a
special
presentation
which
is
now
for
the
first
time,
also
taking
questions
and
comments
from
the
public.
So
I'll
now
turn
it
over
to
mr
powers.
F
Hi
good
evening,
mayor
bill,
delapina
members
of
the
city
council
and
the
public
as
we
begin
the
new
year,
I
felt
it
was
important
to
give
an
update
as
I've
done
at
the
outset,
of
every
city
council
meeting
for
every
meeting
since
march,
on
the
state
of
coven
19.
and
where
we've
been
and
really
where
we're
heading
and
what's
in
front
of
us
before
I
share
the
latest
data.
F
F
The
city's
role
has
been
one
of
support
to
county
code
enforcement
professionals
and
environmental
health
staff.
As
part
of
what's
called
the
business
ambassador
program,
we
have
focused
on
education,
technical
support
and
where
needed,
enforcement
support,
because
the
health
orders
are
issued
by
the
county,
which
is
a
separate
governmental
entity.
Our
role
is
to
attempt
to
gain
compliance
through
education
and,
if
needed,
to
issue
county
of
ventura
closure
paperwork
and
citations
to
businesses
and
to
document
that
activity
for
the
county
for
court
proceedings.
F
F
F
F
That
said,
there
is
a
misperception
that
our
local
law
enforcement
personnel
are
choosing
not
to
enforce
the
mask
mandate.
In
reality,
the
state's
guidance
provides
for
a
number
of
exemptions
relating
to
health
conditions.
Both
mental
and
physical
you'll
see
some
of
those
written
on
the
screen
here.
F
F
F
F
You
also
see
on
the
chart
in
front
of
you,
the
coveted
cases
and
the
hospitalizations,
and
you
see
how
these
numbers
and
upticks
correlate
with
holidays
and
as
the
staff
at
the
public
health
agency
have
pointed
out,
we
were
beginning
to
see
a
decline
in
mid-december
after
thanksgiving
and
then
since
that
point
in
time,
you're
seeing
a
substantial
uptick
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
averaging
over
a
thousand
coveted
cases
a
day
for
over
a
week.
F
Now
you
have
to
assume
that
almost
anyone
around
you
has
the
potential
of
being
contagious
at
this
point
and
the
safest
place
to
be
is
at
home
with
those
in
your
household
last
week,
ventura
county
had
the
third
highest
rate
of
cases
in
the
state
of
california.
L.A
county
was
fourth,
as
the
public
health
leadership
said
this
morning.
This
week,
this
week
in
particular,
will
be
critical.
F
You
see
in
front
of
you
a
listing
of
the
various
phases
and
the
rough
time
frames
around
that
we
are
currently
in
phase
1a
of
vaccinate
of
vaccinations
and
we're
coming
close
to
the
conclusion
of
1a
in
preparation
early
next
month
to
move
into
phase
one
b,
the
guidance
and
the
tenor
around.
F
This
is
continuing
to
shift
and
change
as
new
directives
come
just
today
with
the
directive
of
trying
to
push
for
those
65
and
older
for
vaccination,
and
so
as
those
pieces
of
information
from
the
federal
government
shift
and
change
and
come
to
the
states
we're
working
with
our
county
partners
to
incorporate
that
into
the
plan.
F
The
county
and
all
the
cities
in
the
county
are
working
in
conjunction
to
staff
up
and
man
vaccination
sites
at
various
locations
throughout
the
county
once
finalized.
These
will
be
shared
with
the
public.
At
large
and
will
provide
clear
guidance
on
the
best
method
for
you
to
sign
up
and
understand
when
it's
your
opportunity
to
be
vaccinated
and,
as
you
see
in
phase
1b,
the
key
function
there
earlier
february
through
march
is
the
critical
infrastructure
workers,
essential
workers,
law
enforcement
and
fire
teachers
and
as
it
lists
here,
those
75
and
up.
F
You
do
need
to
stay,
take
take
the
moment
to
stay
informed
and
the
county
of
ventura
has
a
website
where
you
can
sign
up
not
only
to
be
kept
abreast
of
what's
happening,
but
also
to
sign
up
to
volunteer.
If
you
can
assist
those
that
are
perhaps
retired
from
the
health
care
profession
or
have
previous
experience.
F
They're
looking
for
volunteers
to
vaccinate
having
that
ability
will
stretch
the
hours
the
clinics
are
able
to
be
open
and
distribution
sites
are
able
to
be
open,
assuming
that
the
volume
of
shots
is
available.
So
please
go
to
please
go
to
the
county
site,
sign
up,
venturacountyrecovers.org,
sign
up
to
register
for
vaccine
updates
and,
if
you're,
interested
and
able
to
volunteer,
encourage
you
to
take
the
time
to
do
so.
F
I
can
assure
you
that
the
cities
are
working
in
close,
consult
with
the
county
of
ventura
to
move
as
quickly
as
they
are
able
to
that
includes
putting
our
staff
resources
available
to
assist
with
logistics
regarding
vaccinations
as
needed,
and
we
will
keep
our
public
and
our
residents
informed
clearly
and
consistently
about
what's
happening
regarding
vaccinations
in
these
weeks
ahead,
as
we
anticipate
a
lot
of
information
flowing
with
that,
I
wanted
to
pass
the
baton
over
to
my
colleague
sheriff
bill.
Ayo.
E
E
Generally,
we
see
very
good
compliance
throughout
the
community
with
restrictions
imposed
by
the
health
order.
We
have
seen
a
few
high-profile
examples
locally
of
groups
defying
the
mass
mandates
in
public
protest
protesting,
of
course,
in
the
midst
of
a
raging
pandemic,
is
strongly
discouraged,
but
is
permissible
under
the
state's
stay-at-home
order
and
activity.
That's
strongly
protected
by
the
first
amendment
of
the
constitution.
E
E
E
We
know
that
many
of
our
local,
coveted
infections
are
attributed
to
gatherings
in
the
home
and
now
is
the
time
for
everyone
to
dig
deep
and
do
their
part
to
help
our
community
emerge
from
the
grip
of
this
pandemic.
If
any
community
can
do
it,
this
one
can
and
I'm
proud
to
be
a
part
of
serving
it.
So
thank
you.
J
Thank
you
sheriff
for
your
remarks.
I
appreciate
them.
I
am,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
covet
update.
We
did
give
the
public
opportunity
to
make
comments
regarding
the
enforcement,
and
so
I
just
we
received
about
15
or
18
comments
regarding
item
five
and
okay,
okay
and
number
three.
Would
that
be
under,
but
it
says
under
public
comments
here,
so
we
will
take
those
right
now
we
are
still
under
covert
update
yeah.
J
So
the
questions,
the
ques,
the
questions
that
are
being
posed
is
why
law
enforcement,
why
deputies
are
not
keeping
masculine
protesters
apart
or
away.
J
E
I
I
feel
as
though
that
was
addressed
in
our
comments.
The
protest
activity,
similar
to
what
we've
seen
since
I
believe
it
was
may
for
a
variety
of
reasons
in
our
community
is
a
lawful
activity.
That's
very
closely
protected
by
the
first
amendment
of
the
u.s
constitution.
E
We
didn't
interfere
with
protest
activity
in
the
summer.
We
don't
interfere
with
it
now,
unless
there
is
overt
acts
of
violence,
property,
destruction,
dangers
to
the
general
public.
E
Those
who
choose
to
gather
and
protest
are
doing
so
of
their
their
own
free
will,
and
I
would
encourage
anybody
that
is
not
interested
in
being
part
of
an
event
that
could
be
considered
a
super
spreader
event,
or
certainly
a
dangerous
environment
for
attracting
an
illness
to
stay
away
from
groups
that
do
such
such
things.
E
G
Yes,
please
mayor,
go
ahead,
mr
adam.
Thank
you.
I
think
the
public
can
see
that
over
the
last
year
the
city
has
really
gone
to
herculean
efforts
to
deal
with
covet
19
in
our
community
and
along
with
sheriff
ayoub.
We
pursued
a
course
of
of
compliance
through
education
and
that's
exactly
the
course.
We've
taken,
whether
it's
through
the
media
or
through
videos
through
youtube
through
the
acorn
we
have
reminded
people
constantly
to,
and
you
all
know
the
reminders.
G
Wear
your
mask.
Wash
your
hands
be
socially
distant.
You
know
as
to
treat
this
with
a
public
health
problem
with
criminal
enforcement,
as,
as
sheriff
again
said,
is
very
problematic
and
almost
impossible.
So
it
really
boils
down
to
social
responsibility,
and
I
must
say,
the
vast
majority
of
residents
of
thousands
are
doing
just
that
being
responsible
when
complying
to
try
to
get
this
covered.
Business
under
control,
and
the
city
of
course,
has
stepped
up
in
so
many
ways
in
helping
business
and
helping
renters.
G
So
just
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
we
can.
We
will
continue
to
do
that
from
everything
I'm
hearing
this
whole
pandemic,
at
least
here
in
ventura
county
might
peak
in
late
january
and
start
to
level
off
in
the
spring
and
start
to
come
down
in
the
summer
and,
of
course,
part
of
that's
just
the
general
direction
of
the
disease
and
a
lot
has
to
do
with
the
vaccinations.
G
F
Yes,
council,
member
adam,
we
do
anticipate
an
east
county
presence
of
a
vaccination
center,
we're
having
a
all
hands
meeting
with
our
city
manager,
colleagues
and
county
personnel
on
thursday
morning.
Regarding
that-
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
assume
that-
and
it
was
discussed
in
the
board
of
supervisors
meeting
this
morning-
that
there
will
be
an
east
county
presence,
exactly
what
that
looks
like
and
what
the
hours
and
the
details
associated
with
it.
That's
still
forthcoming.
F
But-
and
you
know
to
add
to
that-
we
would
also
advocate
for
such.
We
want
to
ensure
that
our
residents
here
have
as
much
access
quickly
and
easily
to
vaccinations
as
possible.
G
J
Thank
you,
mr
jones,
did
you
have
a
question.
I
K
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
yeah,
just
a
quick
comment
and
then
a
couple
of
questions
I
think
in
terms
of
wearing
a
mask
people
who
wear
a
mask
are
part
of
the
solution,
and
I
encourage
everyone
to
be
part
of
the
solution
and
that
part
of
of
the
problem
of
spreading
this
disease.
K
In
terms
of
my
questions,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
I
think
for
sheriff
ayoub
and
then
perhaps
one
for
mr
powers
as
well
sheriff
ayoub.
We
have
had
some
ongoing
demonstrations
similar
to
what
occurred
earlier
this
year
with
social
justice
issues
that
came
about
at
that
time.
The
sheriff
was
very,
very
active
in
protecting
the
demonstrators
and
also
making
sure
that
they
stayed
in
an
area
that
was
safe
for
them.
K
E
We
do
we
do
closely
monitor
that
sort
of
activity
throughout
the
county
and
certainly
are
aware
of
that
group
and
their
activities
on
the
lynn,
road,
overpass
and
other
areas
of
the
city.
We
do
monitor
and
look
for
public
safety
concerns.
Generally,
they
they've
been
very
minimal.
K
Thank
you
and
then
we
did
have
one
incident
where
there
was
the
invasion
of
one
of
our
shopping
areas
where
people
attempted
to
rush
the
door
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
required
an
intervention
on
your
part.
How
do
you
do
you
have
a
a
way
of
determining
when
intervention
is
necessary,
and
can
you
speak
to
that
particular
incident
and
how
you
determine
intervention
was
necessary.
E
Sure
that
that
certainly
was
a
call
for
service.
We
were
notified
that
this
this
event
had
occurred.
We
heard
information
circulating
in
the
community
that
that
a
group
was
intending
to
do
some
some
action
of
that
sort.
We
said
we
just
didn't
know
when
or
where,
when
we
were
called
and
and
stores.
Certainly,
businesses
that
are
doing
their
darndest
to
comply
with
very
strict
guidelines
that
that
they
must
meet
to
stay
in
business
are,
are
and
should
be
completely
off
limits
to
this
type
of
activity.
E
That
being
said,
the
mass
guidelines
remain
problematic
for
us
to
enforce.
However,
in
a
situation
like
that,
there
becomes
conventional
law
that
we
can
resort
to
using
should
the
business
or
a
shopper
in
the
in
the
vicinity
of
people
protesting.
If
you
will
and
use
that
term
loosely
in
the
form
of
trespassing
in
the
form
of
assault
or
battery
should
something
like
that
occur,
but
there
are
certainly
requirements
that
to
be
met
for
the
threshold
of
those
crimes
to
to
be
met.
E
In
this
case,
we
were
notified
of
a
disturbance
involving
some
people
that
had
entered
the
store.
Evidently
looking
for
shocking
reactions
from
other
shoppers
and
making
a
statement
and
so
forth,
they
immediately
left
when
our
deputies
asked
them
to
at
the
request
of
the
store
and
they
were
cooperative
with
our
staff.
We
had
no
criminal
behavior
reported
to
us,
and
certainly
nobody
stepped
forward
willing
to
swear
out
a
complaint
of
some
type
of
criminal
violation.
E
So
it's
it's
in.
In
my
view,
anybody
interested
in
doing
something
like
this
should
think
really
long
and
hard
about
it.
We
certainly
don't
support
it
and
we'll
take
every
step
that
we
can
to
prevent
that
from
happening
and
to
respond
appropriately.
If
and
when
it
does
happen
again,
I
just
think
it's
bad
behavior
and
it
does
nobody
any
good.
K
Thank
you.
Yes,
if,
if
someone
crosses
the
line
into
a
otherwise
criminal
behavior,
then
I
I
believe
you
you
can
step
in
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Giving
me
a
feel
for
where
you
think
intervention
is
needed,
mr
powers,
in
terms
of
tests
or
in
terms
of
the
vaccine.
K
Has
the
county
fleshed
out
all
the
details
yet
on
how
people
are
going
to
apply
for
vaccines?
How
are
they
going
to
be
administered?
I
know
that
we're
mentioning
that
they'll
be
administration
sites
set
up
by
the
county
in
east
count
in
the
east
county.
Our
area
is
there
to
be
private
partners
that
are
involved
in
this.
Has
that
been
fleshed
out
yet
by
the
county.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
mayor
protem,
for
the
question.
The
the
short
answer
is
yes,
all
those
details
are
in
the
process
of
being
fleshed
out.
What's
important
to
to
note,
is
you
know
right
now,
as
things
stand,
they're
anticipating
that
capacity
will
outpace
the
vaccine
allocation
within
a
week
week
and
a
half.
So
we're
still
at
a
point
in
this
where
getting
out
of
this
first
phase,
1a
is
several
weeks
down
the
line.
F
The
phase
that
we
are
in
right
now
is
focused
on
standing
up
sites
and
locations
that
will
be
high
capacity
vaccine
distribution
sites.
Those
will
be
paired,
along
with
a
variety
of
other
distribution
methods
that
will
involve
pharmacies.
It
will
involve
point
of
workplace
distributions
in
some
settings,
for
instance
between
law
enforcement
personnel
and
fire
personnel.
F
Those
will
be
distributed
on
job
sites
in
some
cases,
and
the
same
goes
in
other
essential
worker
environments,
and
so
it
will
depend
on
the
category
in
the
grouping
and
it'll
depend
on
the
amount
and
availability
of
the
vaccine,
but
there
will
be
an
appointment
process.
The
county
is
working
to
stand
up
that
appointment
process,
so
there
will
be
some
components
of
that
that
will
be
shared
as
soon
as
we
have
those
details.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
powers,
and
I
just
want
to
close
with
a
one
of
our
former
colleagues
when
this
first
came
about
almost
a
year
ago.
Now
he
he
compared
the
coven
to
some
of
the
sacrifices
that
people
needed
to
do
in
prior
times,
such
as
during
world
war
ii.
When
I
know
my
father
and
a
lot
of
people's
fathers
went
off
to
war
for
years
and
sacrificed
their
lives.
K
For
years,
our
colleague,
our
colleague
said
that
we're
being
asked
to
stay
home
and
watch
tv-
I
think
we've
got
this
and
that
is
wearing
a
mask
is,
is
a
very
simple
thing
to
do.
That
will
help
bring
us
through
this,
so
for
those
who
have
are
wearing
masks.
Thank
you
for
those
who
are
thinking
about
other
ways
of
doing
it,
consider
the
mask.
It
will
really
help.
J
Thank
you,
mr
engler.
Are
there
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
council
members
sheriff
or
actually
I
do
have
a
question
for
our
city
attorney
regarding
the
protests
on
lynn,
road
overpass?
Do
those
groups
have
a
city
issued
permit
or
does
the
sheriff
perhaps
know
if
they
have
a
county
issued
permit.
D
Thank
you,
I
don't
know
if
they
actually
pulled
a
city
issued
permit
or
not.
I
don't
have
that
information
at
this
time.
F
Just
to
answer
the
question
briefly,
I'm
not
aware
of
any
permits
being
pulled
for
that
that
type
of
activity
would
not
traditionally
be
a
permit
based
activity.
That
groups
would
would
seek
to
do
that
and
in
terms
of
of
compelling
a
permit.
F
It's
a
that's
a
more
nuanced
question,
if
that
would
if
we
got
into
a
situation
where
things
were
impacting
in
a
significant
basis,
right
of
way,
and
otherwise
I
know
our
our
chief
jim
freya
is
aware
of
the
the
fact
those
those
have
been
I
think
ongoing
at
that
location
since
november,
and
in
that
the
patrol
sergeants
and
the
others
that
are
out
on
patrol
there
keep
tabs
on
that
we're
aware
of
concerns
that
were
expressed
from
last
weekend
on
impact
and
right
away.
F
We
encourage
anyone
that
sees
that
thing,
something
like
that.
They
can
certainly
make
a
phone
call
police
department
and
we'll
go
out
and
check
out.
If
there
is
impeding
right
away
or
issues
regarding
health
and
safety,
then
the
police
department
will
absolutely
intervene.
J
Thank
you.
So
my
question
is
more
of
a
time
frame.
Now
we
will
have
a
new
president
on
january
20th.
The
election
was
absolutely
not
stolen,
contrary
to
the
minorities,
belief,
and
I
wonder
how
long
this
will
go
on
until
we
say
enough
is
enough
and
we
need
to
move
on.
J
I
don't
know
exactly
who
would
be
able
to
answer
that
question,
but
people
have
to
come
to
grips
with
reality
and
not
keep
watching
the
q
anon
type
conspiracy
programs.
So
I'm
just
wondering
whether
what
we
can
do
to
compel
people
to
just
let
the
rest
of
us
live
in
peace.
F
I'll
try
to
take
a
stab
at
that
and
tracy
can
jump
on
as
needed,
but
you
know
there
are,
you,
know,
time
place
and
manner,
components
of
first
amendment
protected
activity,
and
so-
and
we
have
examples-
you
know,
for
instance,
that
there's
been
some
consistent,
consistent
protests
over
the
years
at
planned
parenthood
locations.
For
instance,
there
are
so
that
is
just
a
sort
of
element
of
our
democracy.
F
J
Okay,
if
there
are
no
any
no
further
questions
or
additional
comments,
I
want
to
thank
sheriff
ayoob
and
chief
fryhof
for
attending
today's
meeting.
Mr
engler,
did
you
have
your
hand
up,
but
we
don't
hear
you
your
microphone.
J
Okay,
I
thought
you
did
sorry.
I
do
want
to
thank
you
and
again.
I
urge
everybody
to
as
soon
as
the
vaccine
becomes
available
to
actually
get
the
vaccine
and
that
is
and
wearing
a
mask,
of
course,
following
simple
guidelines,
because
that
is
the
only
way
we
will
get
out
of
this
out
of
this
nightmare
again.
Thank
you
all
very
much,
and
we
will
now
move
on
to
public
comments
and
I
believe
that
will
be
announced
by
our
city
clerk.
D
This
is
a
time
and
place
for
public
comments
for
those
wishing
to
address
the
city
council
regarding
items
on
the
agenda
or
on
a
subject
within
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Speakers
for
public
hearing
items
shall
be
called
and
heard
during
the
public
hearing.
All
remarks
should
be
addressed
to
the
council
as
a
whole.
Speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residents
for
the
record
under
state
law.
Public
comment
matters
may
not
be
considered
by
the
council
unless
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
may
be
referred
to
the
city
manager
for
administrative
follow-up.
D
J
L
Ahead
good
evening,
mayor
bill
de
la
pena,
council
members,
city
staff
thousand
oaks
residents
and
sheriff
ayobe
many
of
you,
if
not
all,
ran
campaign
campaigns
with
two
words
at
the
top
of
your
walk
pieces,
facebook
pages
and
websites,
public
safety-
you
told
us
your
electorate.
The
public
safety
was
your
number
one
priority.
L
So
it
is
particularly
concerning
that
we're
here
tonight,
in
the
middle
of
a
dangerous
pandemic,
with
a
completely
full
icu
351
deaths
in
this
county
and
a
refrigerator
truck
parked
at
las
robles
to
accommodate
the
bodies
of
those
who
have
yet
to
lose
their
lives
and
yet
for
some,
the
simplest
act
of
safety
wearing
a
mask
remains
optional,
which
to
be
clear,
it
is
not,
and
this
county's
primary
public
safety
entity,
the
ventura
county
sheriff's
office,
seems
uninterested
in
protecting
us
on
this
matter.
So
why
is
it
that
literally
down
the
street
from
your
offices?
L
Restaurants
remain
open
to
diners
and
doors?
Why
is
it
that
actors
can
summon
hundreds
of
people
to
private
property
for
the
sole
purpose
of
disobeying
the
mass
mandate?
And
why
is
it
that
throngs
of
individuals
can
enter
the
grocery
store
with
an
intent
to
intimidate
its
employees
and
put
them
in
harm's
way
which,
by
the
way
is
not
protesting?
L
What
I've
heard
tonight
is
that,
because
it's
complicated
and
yet
your
job,
particularly
the
city
council,
is
to
handle
the
complicated
last
april
or
even
may
was
the
time
for
learning
and
solving
yet
june
july
august
september
october
november
and
december
the
deadliest
month
yet
have
come
and
gone,
and
this
community
sees
nothing
being
done
about
the
very
thing
you
promised
all
us
all
from
the
beginning
that
you
would
protect
our
safety.
There's
no
longer
time
for
marginal
action.
L
Your
weekly
instagram
post,
reminding
three
thousand
followers
to
wear
a
mask,
is
not
enough,
and
I
hear
you
when
you
say
it's
a
complicated
web
and
that
enforcement
is
difficult.
I
respond
by
saying
that
this
city
spends
millions
of
dollars
by
hiring
the
sheriff's
office
to
protect
us
and
they
are
paid
to
do
the
difficult
work
and
the
numbers
show
that
they
are
failing.
It's
time
that
you
demand
they
do
their
job
pass,
a
city
ordinance
that
requires
enforcement
at
minimum,
hold
public
forums
weekly
about
what
you're
doing
to
help
the
community.
L
L
I
understand
that
this
is
difficult,
forcing
all
of
us
into
discussions
and
actions
that
we
would
rather
not
take.
And
to
that
I
will
leave
you
with
a
quote
from
president
john
f
kennedy.
He
said
there
are
costs
and
risks
to
a
program
of
action,
but
they
are
far
less
than
the
long
range
risks
and
costs
of
comfortable
inaction.
L
M
Thank
you.
My
question
is
actually
our
question.
It
was
meant
for
agenda
item
five,
so
it
was
directed
more
to
sheriff
ayew
and
I
hope
that
he's
able
to
answer
it
directly.
But
firstly,
I
want
to
thank
mayor
bilder
pena
for
organizing
and.
K
M
Expedite
a
presentation
like
this,
it's
certainly
timely
and
very
important
for
our
community
numerous
and
not
to
share
sorry.
You,
united
community
members,
have
expressed
concern
about
why
our
ventura
county
deputies
do
not
demonstrate
better
compliance
with
the
mass
mandate
while
on
duty
sheriff
ayoob
and
I
have,
and
it
had
an
email
exchange
on
august,
the
25th
regarding
this
issue,
and
I
have
yet
to
be
aware
of
any
improvement
by
deputies
regarding
this
issue.
H
M
M
J
Thank
you.
I
believe
we
don't
have
any
additional
public
speakers,
madam
clerk,
would
that
be
correct?
No
sorry,
I
think
we
do
have
adam
haverstock.
Yes,
okay
and,
I
believe,
he's
the
last
one.
N
Hello,
madam
mayor
council,
members,
adam
haverstock,
I'm
the
director
of
government
affairs
and
tourism
at
the
greater
canajo
valley
chamber
of
commerce,
with
an
update
for
you
this
evening
with
several
items
to
discuss.
First,
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
the
chamber
has
been
actively
working
to
provide
access
to
financial
support
recently
made
available
by
local
state
and
federal
government.
N
We've
also
been
helping.
Businesses
understand
the
state
and
local
covet
guidance,
so
they
can
stay
in
compliance
with
health
order
mandates.
We
have
sent
out
several
advisories
to
the
business
community
following
updates
to
the
regional
stay
home
order.
We
have
a
covid19
faq
on
our
website
and
we
answer
phone
calls
and
emails
every
day
about
how
to
follow
the
guidance
at
the
chamber.
We
believe
that
slowing
the
spread
of
covet
19
is
what's
best
for
business
and
it's
what
will
ultimately
get
businesses
back
open?
N
We
are
partnering
with
the
us
chamber
of
commerce
help
businesses
get
access
to
the
recently
passed
stimulus
package.
We
actually
have
an
event
coming
up
this
thursday.
It
is
a
stimulus,
package,
q,
a
webinar,
and
we
have
jennings
zamel,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
western
region
for
u.s
chamber
of
commerce?
Talking
about
the
stimulus
package
and
answering
questions.
This
event
is
free
and
open
to
the
public.
All
businesses
are
invited
to
attend
and
all
the
details
to
log
into
it.
N
It's
going
to
be
a
zoom,
it's
at
canehochamber.org,
which
is
our
website.
The
chamber
has
a
new
partnership
with
linkedin
and
we
plan
to
have
several
events
with
them
this
year.
The
first
is
a
virtual
class
on
getting
the
most
out
of
your
linkedin
profile.
It's
called
rock
your
linkedin
profile
and
it's
being
taught
by
joey
zamaya
from
linkedin.
It's
going
to
be
next
wednesday
january
20th
at
10
30
in
the
morning,
and
it's
virtual
and
it's
free
and
open
to
all
businesses,
job
seekers,
linkedin
users.
N
I
want
to
have
you
all
save
the
date
for
canelo
valley
restaurant
week,
which
is
going
to
be
the
last
week
in
february,
specifically
february
19th,
through
the
28th
we're
currently
seeking
thousand
oaks
restaurants
that
want
to
participate.
They
do
not
need
to
be
a
member
of
the
chamber,
but
they
do
need
to
provide
a
two-person
or
four-person
to-go
special.
So
that
way
people
can
frequent
their
business
during
that
week
and
you
can
sign
up
at
canajo.com
to
participate
if
you
are
a
restaurant
and
finally,
the
chamber
is
resuming
its
virtual
mixers
in
2021.
N
The
first
one
is
going
to
be
wednesday
january
27th
at
4
p.m.
It
is
sponsored
by
oak
and
iron,
it's
a
virtual
event
and
they're
going
to
feature
cocktail
demonstrations
and
info
to
access
that
virtual
mixers
on
our
website
at
canehochamber.org,
unless
there
are
any
questions
that
does
conclude
my
comments
this
evening.
Thank
you.
J
N
J
I
I
Move
to
to
approve
the
remainder,
please.
D
J
D
G
I
G
G
This
will
create
a
bike
and
walking
path
between
our
our
transportation
center
and
this
thousands
boulevard,
which
is
an
ideal
path
to
create,
and,
most
importantly,
and
we're
going
to
discuss
this
in
a
later
agenda
item.
It's
just
one
more
way
to
lower
greenhouse
gases,
get
people
out
of
their
cars
and
on
foot.
So
I
applaud
the
city
for
this
project
and
I
think
it's
just
going
to
continue
to
connect
us
all
and
give
us
the
ability
to
walk
and
bike.
Thank
you.
J
G
I
Now
I
know
we've
been
in
the
cove,
but
only
a
few
months
that
is
are
covered
by
this
report,
because
it's
the
fiscal
year
ending
june
30th
of
last
year,
but
I'm
interested
in
what
impact
the
kovad
is
having
on
our
city
finances.
So
if
she
could
explain
some
of
these
numbers,
I'd
appreciate
it.
O
Thank
you,
council,
member,
yes,
so
covid
for
the
fiscal
year
in
1920
really
started
impacting
city
finance
revenues
in
march.
Mid-March
was
the
first
shutdown,
so
it
was
about
three
and
a
half
months
of
impact
to
our
revenue
sources.
Obviously,
a
large
impact
was
our
sales
tax.
We
did
see,
of
course,
with
the
stay-at-home
order
back
in
march,
a
decline
in
sales
tax
revenue.
O
Thankfully
we
budgeted
for
a
decline
in
that
fiscal
year.
So,
despite
covid,
we
actually
ended
up
meeting
our
budgeted
sales
tax
revenue
and
that's
our
largest
revenue
source
for
the
city's
general
fund.
Although
we
had
a
decline
in
areas
like
restaurants
and
fuel
stations,
we
saw
upticks
in
other
areas
throughout
the
city.
In
our
sales
tax,
the
movement
to
online
brought
a
huge
increase
in
revenue
for
the
city
from
online
sales.
O
O
So,
yes,
we
did
see
a
decline
in
what
we
were.
Trending
for
the
fiscal
year
in
our
sales
tax,
but
we
ended
up
meeting
budget
anyways.
We
also
saw
a
decline
in
transient
occupancy
tax
people,
weren't
traveling
to
hotels,
so
our
hotels
lost
revenue,
which
meant
we
saw
declined
in
our
transit
occupancy
tax
revenue
as
well,
but
thankfully
it
was
pretty
much
just
the
transient
occupancy
tax
based
on
the
point
of
year
and
sales
tax.
And
so,
despite
the
covered
closures
back
in
march,
we
actually
exceeded
our
general
fund
revenue
budget.
I
O
Property
tax,
the
majority
of
that
increase
from
the
prior
fiscal
year
was
due
to
a
one-time
payment.
We
received
from
the
county
of
ventura
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
the
city
actually
incorporated
without
a
general
municipal
property
tax.
O
So
we
actually
get
a
tax
equity
allocation
percentage
from
the
county
of
ventura
and
there
was
a
case
that
was
challenged
in
a
different
county
and
ultimate
resolved
last
fiscal
year,
where
the
county
assessor's
office
lost
the
case
that
they
were
improperly
calculating
the
tax
equity
allocation.
O
So
our
assessor
of
course
had
to
adhere
to
the
terms
of
the
case,
and
they
actually
did
a
one-time
reassessment
for
the
past
three
years
for
statute
of
limitations.
So
we
got
a
one-time
payment
of
over
three
million
dollars
from
the
county
and
property
tax
revenue.
So
we
won't
see
that
one
type
payment,
obviously
moving
forward,
but
that
the
bulk
of
that
accounts
for
the
increase
in
the
property
tax
and
the
other
revenue.
O
F
I
know
his
battery
was
running
low.
They
could
see
it
on
the
screen,
so
they're
just
attempting
to
contact
him,
so
he
can.
J
Okay,
very
good.
I
imagine
I
have
to
suppose
that
this
answered
his
question
and
I
will
call
for
a
vote.
Madam
clerk.
G
B
J
J
D
Hearing
advertised,
as
required
by
law,
is
open
to
consider
agenda
item
8a
regarding
consideration
of
new
location
for
leaf
dispensary
speakers
are
requested
to
state
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
14
individuals
have
presented
speaker
cards
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
C
Thank
you
mayor,
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council.
This
item
is
back
before
city
council
with
a
new
location.
Some
of
you
may
remember
it
from
being
before
council
a
couple
of
times
before
this
evening.
We
will
have
a
powerpoint
presentation
that
will
be
presented
and
led
by
our
assistant
city
attorney,
patrick
heher,.
F
P
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
council
members.
We
are
here
tonight
to
talk
about
leaf
dispensaries
proposed
location
also
just
want
to
introduce
quickly
matt
eaton
from
hdl
consultants
and
assistant
attorney,
patrick
heher,
who
are
also
available
tonight.
To
answer
questions.
P
First,
a
quick
background
on
some
of
the
key
events
on
november
14
2017,
based
on
requests
from
citizens
of
thousand
oaks
and
over
two
years
of
analysis
and
research.
The
city
council
voted
to
approve
two
cannabis
dispensaries
and
two
testing
labs
and
the
two
cannabis
dispensaries
for
medical
use.
Only
I'm
sorry,
I
have
a
I'm
having
issue
with.
A
P
Okay,
so
this
decision
was
based
in
part
on
a
demonstrated
need
of
medical
cannabis
for
treatment
of
certain
ailments,
the
ordinance
implemented
medicinal
and
adult
use
cannabis
regulation
and
safety
act,
in
addition
to
requirements
specific
to
our
city,
to
protect
the
residents,
such
as
annual
review
of
the
permits
and
giving
council
discretion
to
reject
the
permit.
If
the
operator
does
not
follow
regulations
in
july
of
2018
council
selected
legendary
organics
as
city's
first
medical
dispensary
and
in
september
2019
council
authorized
leaf
dispensary
to
operate
the
second
dispensary
business.
P
P
In
this
case,
there
is
one
residentially
zoned
property
within
600
feet
of
the
proposed
location,
however,
for
a
residentially
zoned
property
to
be
current
to
be
zoned,
probably
to
be
designated
as
a
sensitive
use.
The
code
requires
the
property
to
be
currently
used
as
a
residential
property
at
the
time
that
the
cannabis
business
is
being
considered.
P
This
residential
property
is
currently
vacant
and
not
being
used
as
residential.
In
addition,
it
is
designated
as
undevelopable
in
the
general
plan
in
the
general
plan,
precisely
because
of
its
steep
hillside
terrain.
Therefore,
it
is
unlikely
that
this
property
would
ever
be
developed
for
residential
use.
P
P
P
P
There
are
many
restrictions
that
are
placed
on
medical
dispensaries
in
our
city
to
protect
the
residents
and
the
dispensary
staff.
Some
of
these
restrictions
are
noted
on
this
slide.
Of
course,
the
dispensary
will
be
medical,
only
hours
of
operation
are
limited
to
8
am
to
9
pm
with
a
buzzin
entry
system,
and
delivery
of
cannabis
will
be
limited
to
medical
marijuana
and
measures
have
to
be
made
to
ensure
odor
control.
P
P
P
So
on
december,
22nd
of
2020
staff
from
community
development
department
and
city
attorney's
office
and
also
sheriff's
department
met
with
the
applicants
from
leaf
again
it
was
concluded
that
safety
and
security
measures
that
leaf
is
proposing
are
adequate
and
staff
also
concluded
that
leaf's
new
location
meets
all
city
and
state
requirements,
including
parking.
P
P
If
approved,
the
applicant
must
renew
the
permit
annually,
which
gives
us
another
opportunity
to
evaluate
the
business
that
is
being
conducted
and
making
sure
that
they're
it's
being
conducted
according
to
standards,
staff
and
consultant
reviewed.
The
proposal
staff
conducted
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
a
site
inspection
to
ensure
ordinances
and
policies
were
all
followed.
P
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
bizzadi
appreciate
the
presentation.
K
C
Councilman
wrangler,
as
far
as
signage,
just
to
remind
all
council
that
we
are
very
restrictive
in
the
signage
that
we
allow
for
cannabis
businesses,
so
they
are
allowed
to
have
their
name
on
the
building
or
their
their
actual
front
of
their
building
itself,
but
no
other
types
of
signs
for
the
business.
As
far
as
the
park
is
concerned,
that
would
be
controlled
by
the
poa
or
the
professional
owners
association's
requirements
there
for
the
signage.
C
I
think
they
only
have
addresses
numbers,
obviously
not
names,
but
that
would
be
something
that
maybe
david
mcfarlane
could
answer
as
part
of
the
owner
of
this
leaf.
Dispensary.
K
Just
thank
you,
mr
here
I
I
did
remember
that
they're
not
allowed
to
have
advertising
type
signage,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
were
able
to
put
at
least
their
business
name
on
the
outside
to
help
any
confusion.
That
is
correct.
You
can't.
B
Thank
you
mayor
question
regarding
the
parking
just
to
be
assured
here
that
adequate
parking
is
provided
for
the
patrons
I've
spoken
to
other
businesses
that
have
been
around
both
recreational
marijuana
facilities,
as
well
as
the
medical
marijuana
facilities
and,
unfortunately,
the
parking
was
not
sufficient
and
those
with
non-cannabis
businesses
had
to
close
and
move
elsewhere
because
of
it.
What
are
we
doing
as
far
as
a
contingency
plan
to
necessitate
enough
parking?
So
the
other
businesses
are
not
impacted.
C
The
parking
requirements
for
this
location
is
14
spaces
and
they
meet
that
requirement,
but
in
a
concern
for
making
sure
they
had
enough
parking
and
and
to
ensure
that
they
did
not
have
an
impact
to
their
neighbors.
They've
also
arranged
to
have
additional
parking
through
an
agreement
with
another
owner
of
the
complex
for
any
excess
parking.
That
is
needed
as
a
final
possibility.
C
Currently
there's
signage
on
the
street
adjacent
to
this
property
that
does
not
permit
parking,
but
in
talking
to
public
works,
it
is
possible
that
they
could
change
the
signage
just
west
of
this
location,
where
the
driveway
is
to
allow
parking
the
prohibit
parking,
I
should
say
between
3
am
and
6.
Am
that
way
you
prevent
overnight
parking,
but
you
can
certainly
allow
parking
there
on
the
street,
which
is
pretty
close
to
this
proposed
location.
B
Excellent.
Thank
you.
One.
Other
more
of
a
question
for
council
members
is
that
medicinal
use
of
marijuana
in
the
research
literature
that's
come
out
since
this
first
was
introduced
at
a
to
the
voters.
Statewide
has
shown
that
there
is
benefit
to
some
medicinal
conditions
and
should
be
made
available,
as
the
voters
have
put
forth
in
the
state
of
california.
B
Unfortunately,
that's
thrust
upon
the
cities
on
how
to
regulate
and
how
to
monitor
and
make
this
available
to
the
people.
My
contention
has
always
been
that
marijuana
should
not
be
a
class
or
a
schedule.
One
should
not
be
a
schedule,
one
drug
right
there
with
crystal
meth
heroin
and
lsd,
but
should
be
moved
to
a
schedule,
3
drug.
B
So
that
way
it's
dispensed
by
a
health
care
practitioner
that
has
the
ability
to
write
the
licensing
dispensed
by
the
pharmaceutic
pharmacies
that
have
been
doing
it
for
other
drugs
and
then
regulated
by
the
california
board
of
pharmacy.
So
that
way
we
jump
into
the
mechanism,
that's
there.
So
this
takes
the
burden
away
from
the
cities
from
having
to
work
in
finagle
and
figure.
This
out,
the
people
of
thousand
oaks
had
a
vote
put
towards
them
asking
do
you
want
to
have
recreational
marijuana
facilities
and
also
medical
marijuana
facilities
and
the
people
voted?
B
My
request
to
the
council
is
to
consider
approaching
on
the
washington
dc
legislators
politicians,
regulators
level
to
see
about
moving
it
from
a
schedule,
one
to
a
schedule
three,
so
it
frees
cities
up
to
do
what
they
do
best
and
not
have
to
go
through
what
the
board
of
pharmacy
would
do
in
the
state
of
california,
and
this
would
come
down
under
our
congresswoman
julia
bromley's
domain
and
see
if
she
would
pre
champion
this
through
in
washington
and
make
this
change
so
that
way
we
get
some
relief
here
on
the
city
level
on
how
to
figure
this
out.
B
D
C
And
if
I
may,
madam
mayor,
just
looking
at
the
federal
work,
that's
being
done
again,
this
is
2019
2020.
There
was
a
number
of
two
actual
bills.
One's
called
the
state
act
and
one
is
called
the
states
act
and
one
is
called
the
more
act
and
both
of
those
were
proposals
to
in
some
way
either
d
schedule
or
change
the
scheduling
of
the
drug
as
council
member
mcnamee
just
suggested
from
a
schedule,
one
drug
to
their
schedule,
3
or
schedule
5
drug
and
those
two
bills.
C
I
I
checked
the
status
of
them.
It
seems
like
they
just
died
based
on
covet
issues
because
it
was
going
into
the
2020
season.
So
again
with
the
new
president
elect
biden
and
one
of
the
bills
was
actually
proposed
by
vice
president-elect
harris
the
moore
act.
So
I
would
suspect
that
there
might
be
new
legislation
proposed
in
the
federal
level
any
any
time
the
next
year
for
this
issue.
J
J
Q
Q
My
name
is
david
mcfarland
and
I'm
representing
the
leap
dispensary
group.
Unfortunately,
my
partner,
paul
burns
is
unable
to
attend
tonight's
meeting
due
to
being
hospitalized
for
an
appendix
issue,
but
I'm
glad
to
report
that
he's
doing
fairly
well
and
he's
on
the
road
to
recovery.
So
we're
all
praying
for
him
on
that
and
he
he's
really
upset
that
he
was
able
that
he
wasn't
able
to
make
the
meeting
tonight.
So
I'm
here
to
address
and
answer
any
questions
and
concerns
for
the
proposed
location
at
3321
grand
davis
to
drive.
Q
Q
Q
The
citizens
of
the
community
will
be
able
to
to
get
their
medicine
in
thousand
oaks
rather
than
have
to
travel
outside
the
city.
That'll
that'll
be
a
benefit.
So
in
my
13
years
of
being
a
dispensary
operator
in
the
santa
barbara
county,
our
patients
rely
on
us
for
safe
access
to
their
medicine.
Q
I
want
to
point
out
too,
california
has
deemed
cannabis
as
an
essential
business.
People
rely
on
this
as
medicine,
and
they
deserve
to
have
access
to
it.
So
we're
happy
to
bring
it
to
them.
Q
This
location
will
provide
safe
access
and
it'll
be
a
benefit
to
community,
as
I've
already
said,
and
paul-
and
I
are
are
ready
to
get
this
open.
We've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
long
time.
We
hope
the
council
feels
the
same
way
about
the
location
to
save
time.
Q
Rather
than
have
we
have
a
lot
of
support
behind
us
so,
rather
than
have
you
know,
50
callers
call
in
we
encourage
them
to
send
emails
to
the
supplemental
package,
so
I
hope
that
you
had
a
chance
to
review
those,
because
I
last
count
we
had
51
submissions
in
our
favor
and
I
realize
there's
some
opposition
too.
There's
a
few
people
opposing
it,
and
I
understand
that
and
my
years
of
being
in
the
business
I
mean
that's,
that's
not
unusual.
Q
So,
let's
see
yeah
one
thing
I
want
to
point
out
in
the
in
the
package
too,
on
page
eight,
if
you
get
a
chance
to
look
at
it,
if
you
had
a
chance,
cnh
construction,
who
is
our
neighbor
and
when
I
say
neighbor,
we
have
a
joining
wall
with
them.
We're
we're
sharing
the
same
building.
Half
of
the
building
is,
there
is
half
of
it.
It
is
ours,
so
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
they
have
given
us
full
support
and
they've
welcomed
us.
Q
So
with
that,
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
more.
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
time
up,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
we'll
go
from
there.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mcfarlane.
Are
there
any
questions,
mr
engler.
K
Thank
you,
madam
mater
nice,
to
see
you
again,
mr
mcfarland.
I
think
the
last
time
we
spoke,
your
beard
may
have
been
a
little
bit
darker,
but
good
to
see
you
again.
K
Right,
I'm
there's
there's
some
discussion
on
the
parking
issue
and
whether
there's
sufficient
parking
at
apparently
the
city
has
determined
that
there
is
sufficient
parking.
Can
you
give
me
a
feel
for
the
type
of
volume
in
terms
of
people
in
your
store
at
any
particular
time?
Q
Well,
thank
you
for
your
question.
It
it.
It
is
not
an
appointment
business.
It
is
open.
You
know
during
business
hours
to
anybody,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
with
my
experience.
We
don't
have
like
a
mad
rush
of
patients
that
come
at
one
particular
time.
Everyone
has,
you
know
their
schedule,
so
we
see
like
just
an
even
ebb
and
flow
of
customers
coming
and
going.
Our
goleta
location
has
been
there
13
years
and
we
only
have
three
parking
spots
and
we
have
never
had
one
problem.
Q
We've
never
had
a
complaint
from
our
neighbors.
We've
never
had
any
loitering.
We
we
have
operated
without
a
single
complaint
for
13
years,
so
part
of
that
is
is
having
a
communication
with
our
neighbors,
making
sure
that
we
we
listen
to
it
to
them
and,
and
they
have
they
have
my
phone
number
directly
and
if
there's,
if
there's
a
concern
or
something
that's
bothering
them,
we
would
address
it
immediately.
So
we
typically
see
maybe
six
to
ten
people
an
hour.
You
know
and
that's
during
rush
hour.
Q
You
know
sometimes
we'll
go
an
hour
or
more,
without
even
anybody
coming
depending
on
their
day,
so
we've
never
had
an
issue
with
parking
same
with
lomb
hook.
I
only
have
four
or
five
parking
spots
there,
and
and
both
of
my
facilities
are
medical
and
recreational
in
the
santa
barbara
county.
So
so
so
you
get
a
little
more
flow
that
way,
but
it
hasn't
been
a
problem.
G
Yeah,
we
did
pardon
me,
we
did
do
away
with
the
appointment
requirement
at
a
session
in
the
past.
I
can't
remember
exactly
when
to
ensure
you
know
more
freer
access
to
the
medicinal
marijuana
facility
and-
and
it
would
seem
to
me-
I
mean
you-
do
intend
to
deliver
correct.
Q
Yes,
not
right
off
right
out
of
the
gate,
but
eventually
yeah
we're
gonna
get
deliveries
going
as
well.
Yeah.
G
It
would
seem
to
me
if
you're
delivering
that
would
cut
cut
some
of
their
personal
visits
down.
Would
it
not
it.
Q
Certainly
has
and
deliveries
deliveries.
Deliveries
have
become
much
more
popular
since
covet
so.
G
Q
Also
have
a
lot
of
phone-in
orders
that
are
coming
so
we
prepare
the
order
before
they
get
there.
So
their
visit
is
is
relatively
quick,
they're
in
and
out
in
several
minutes,
rather
than
sitting
around,
because
our
website
our
menu,
it
has
all
of
our
products.
It
has
all
the
information
they
need.
They
can
ask
us
questions,
they
can
call
our
staff,
so
we
can
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
traffic
by
by
them
doing
the
online
ordering
and
delivery.
B
Just
to
follow
up
on
the
question
that
was
just
posed
regarding
deliveries,
one
of
the
challenges
on
delivery
is
people
coming
in
to
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
to
make
a
marijuana
delivery.
That's
not
a
business
located
here
as
in
bricks
and
mortar,
and
we
have
no
way
of
tracking
the
sales
tax
or
the
business
tax
on
that
particular
delivery.
Now
you
have
several
facilities
and
other
locations
around
the
state.
What's
your
experience
with
deliveries
coming
in
competing
with
your
business
within
the
cities
that
you
have
current
brick
and
mortar
locations.
Q
The
are
you
talking:
okay,
that's
for
you,
david
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah,
that's
always
been
a
problem.
I
mean
the
the
illegal
deliveries
that
that
take
place
that
aren't
licensed
that
don't
sell,
tested
products.
Q
I
mean
it's
an
ongoing
problem
in
our
industry,
so
slowly
but
surely
the
the
so-called
illegal
deliveries
and
services
and
the
ones
that
don't
do
it
correctly
are
limited
to
getting
all
the
products
that
we
get
that
are
tested
and
sealed
and
all
the
major
manufacturers
now
have
you
know,
taken
precautionary
steps
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
want
to
risk
their
license,
and
so
their
supply
is
slowly
running
out
and
people
are
aware
of
that.
B
Q
That's
a
really
good
question.
I
mean
I
remember,
former
police
chief
hegel
mentioned
that
they
had
done
several
like
10
or
maybe
15
sting
operations
where
it's
it's
relatively
easy
to
to
weed
them
out
because
most
of
them
advertise
on
the
cannabis
directories.
J
Perhaps
mr
heeher
can
chime
in
about
enforcement
of
the
deliveries
from
out
of
town.
In
fact,
we
have
gone
after
businesses
and
sighted
businesses
who
are
not
filing
a
license.
F
Mayor,
if
I,
if
I
might
jump
in
there,
just
really
quickly
on
a
couple
of
points
regarding
enforcement,
because
chief
fryoff
is
on
on
the
line
as
well.
F
Mr
mcfarland
is
correct
in
that
we
have.
We
were
the
first
city
in
the
county
to
really
start
forcefully
pushing
for
enforcement
when
the
state
allowed
for
deliveries
to
begin
occurring,
and
part
of
that
was
to
ensure
compliance
with
both
our
business
license
practice
and
our
taxation
that
was
approved
by
the
voters,
and
so,
as
a
result
of
that,
you
know,
miss
boscarino
just
gave
me
a
an
estimate
of
last
year's
collections.
F
I
believe
it
was
in
the
neighborhood
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
collected
from
deliveries
that
occurred
from
outside
of
the
area,
because
we
do
not
have
any
dispensaries
in
thousand
oaks
and
coming
in
to
deliver
product
in
thousand
oaks
chief
fryoff.
Perhaps
you
can
speak
to
the
enforcement
without
giving
away
the
specifics
of
the
tactics
utilized.
But
the
important
thing
here
is
seeking
compliance
compliance
with
both
our
business
license
and
with
our
remittance
of
taxation.
C
I'm
ready
to
speak,
I'm
just
waiting
for
myself
there
we
go
so
yes,
mayor,
council
members,
mr
powers.
Yes,
we
do
have
a
process
in
place
to
continue
to
do
our
operations.
C
Our
sting
operations
to
make
sure
that
those
that
are
operating
and
delivering
within
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
have
a
proper
permit
and
also
are
from
licensed
dispensaries,
both
obviously
there's
a
multiple
concerns
that
was
mentioned
by
the
the
applicant
about
the
unlicensed
dispensaries
that
are
doing
deliveries,
perhaps
spreading
products
that
have
not
been
tested
that
are
not
deemed
safe,
that
are
truly
black
market
items.
C
And
so
this
there's
an
effort
on
both
sides
of
this
to
ensure
compliance,
protect
the
local
businesses
protect
all
those
that
are
lawfully
doing
the
the
when
the
voters
approve,
and
we
do
it
in
a
manner
that
is
gonna
insure
or
gain
compliance,
and
also
we
did
receive
notice
of
the
dispensaries
that
are
paying
their
taxes
and
that
do
have
their
permits.
And
so,
when
we
look
at
the
directory,
we
know
which,
which
targets
we're
going
to
be
looking
forward
to
king
and
compliance
from.
J
Thank
you
chief
appreciate
that,
are
there
any
other
questions?
I
have
a
question
from
mr
mc
actually
for
its
staff.
Last
time
we
discussed
this
medicinal
marijuana
business.
We
were
not
going
to
have
any
deliveries,
and
now
I
hear
that
we
will
have
deliveries.
Where
did
that
change?
Did
I
miss
something.
C
I
think
in
the
last
presentation
we
had,
we
realized
that
we
changed
our
ordinance
to
allow
deliveries
from
outside
sources.
So
I
believe
the
consensus
of
the
council
at
that
time
was
to
allow
these
two
local
businesses
again
the
two
medical
dispensaries
to
deliver
medical
marijuana
or
medical
cannabis.
Only.
J
Okay,
it
seems
so
long
ago,
okay,
so
that
was
the
question
that
that
I
had
another
question
that
I
also
had
was
that
the
another
dispensary
owner
was
asking
the
question,
and
I
see
it
in
the
supplemental
packet.
An
email
thread
about.
Q
Certainly,
the
owner
of
the
building
has
assured
us
that
there
is.
There
is
no
mortgage
on
the
property
whatsoever,
he
owns
it
outright
and
we
have
it
in
writing.
I
believe
paul
submitted
it
to
marjan
or
part
of
our
package,
but
we
have
I
mean
because
of
the
problems
we've
had
with
the
mortgage.
We
made
sure
100
that
it
is
mortgage-free
and
we
are
not
going
to
have
that
problem
here.
J
Thank
thank
you
so
much.
If
there
are
no
further
comments,
I
will
then
call
the
first
speaker
who
is
michael
reilly
and
he's
joining
us
here
via
video
good
evening,
good.
R
Evening
my
name
is
michael
riley
and
I'm
the
ceo
of
integrity,
bio
and
we're
located
in
the
same
business
park
as
the
proposed
site
for
this
retail
cannabis
operation.
I'd
like
to
object
to
the
proposed
location
for
four
reasons:
number
one.
R
R
My
company
moved
to
this
complex
eight
years
ago
to
be
part
of
a
growing
biotech
industrial
park,
not
neighbors
with
a
retail
cannabis
outlet.
So
we
don't
think
of
this
as
a
corner
of
thousand
oaks.
That's
away
from
everything.
We
in
fact
started
our
business
in
thousand
oaks
in
2003
and
since
then,
we've
grown
to
110
people.
We've
invested
heavily
in
our
laboratory
and
manufacturing
sites
and
now
we're
the
fourth
largest
biotech
employer
in
ventura.
County
companies
like
ours,
attract
further
investment,
and
now
there
are
multiple
biotech
companies
in
this
part
of
the
industrial
park.
R
R
Despite
what
the
city
had
looked
at
and
we're
a
long
time
tenant
of
this
complex,
we
have
firsthand
experience,
like
probably
nobody
in
this
room,
that
the
limited
signage
causes
people
to
take
the
wrong
driveway
since
we're
the
first
one
in
the
encounter
and
with
signage
limited
to
the
address
number
people
frankly
can't
tell
the
difference
between
3401
or
3321
and
for
years,
the
post
office
traffic
has
ended
up
not
only
in
our
parking
lot,
but
people
entering
our
facility
until
multiple
signs
were
posted
on
grande
vista,
to
help
people
find
their
way.
R
Our
employees
work
after
hours
and
the
retail
cannabis
operation
is
planned
to
be
open
until
9
00
pm,
when
the
signage
is
even
less
clear
and
with
a
large
cash
operation
around
the
corner,
I
don't
feel
my
employees
will
be
safe
leaf,
has
promised
guards
and
gates
to
protect
their
business.
That
sure
doesn't
do
much
for
the
safety
of
our
employees,
while
it
does
indicate
the
risk
of
this
business
model
for
those
around
it.
R
Fourth
circumstances
have
changed
since
2017,
when
the
council
approved
an
ordinance
and
we've
started
considering
alternative
sites,
as
discussed
just
before
me.
According
to
the
site
weed
maps,
there
are
now
20
retail
delivery
services
in
thousand
oaks,
so
really
accessed.
Medical
marijuana
is
already
insured
access.
When
I
looked
at
the
materials
that
were
provided
for
this
meeting,
it
says
that
leaf
also
wants
the
option
to
expand
at
some
point
to
an
adult
use,
retail
business,
which
would
drive
even
more
traffic.
R
J
D
D
I've
lived
here
very
happily
for
many
many
years
my
husband
owns
a
business
in
thousand
oaks.
We
live
in
agora.
My
parents
live
in
westlake.
Sadly,
my
father
passed
on
december
4th
this
past
year.
He
was
in
excruciating
pain,
oxycontin
that
he
was
prescribed
for
bone
cancer
did
nothing
to
touch
his
cancer.
The
only
thing
that
helped
him
was
medicinal
marijuana.
D
I
had
to
leave
the
beautiful
kenejo
valley
to
go
and
scrounge
for
medicinal
marijuana.
For
my
father
I
am
a
community
member.
I
am
a
business
owner.
I
am
a
taxpayer.
It
is
time
to
let
leaf
open
their
business.
The
community
has
requested
and
begged
you.
It
has
been
years
of
this
man
who
is
an
amazing
human
being
given
the
runaround
to
open
his
business
in
in
this
city.
D
I
would
hope
this
evening,
if
you
had
any
further
questions
that
would
prevent
dave
from
opening
his
business.
That
is
necessary
that
you
would
ask
them
tonight
and
move
forward
with
opening
his
doors.
He
is
a
great
asset
to
this
community.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
wish
you
all
a
happy
new
year.
M
Good
evening,
everyone
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
Thank
you.
I
am
sarah
armstrong
director
of
industry
affairs
for
americans
for
safe
access,
I'm
also
a
22-year
resident
of
thousand
oaks
founded
in
2002
americans
for
safe
access
is
the
oldest
and
largest
national
organization
advocating
on
behalf
of
medical
cannabis
patients.
M
M
If
the
council
approves
this
tonight,
you
will
begin
a
process
that
will
greatly
benefit
patients
and
the
community,
and
I
promise
you
I
have
16
years
experience
in
cannabis
policy.
I
visited
hundreds
of
dispensaries
and
I've
listened
to
police
talk
about
this
process,
including
los
angeles,
which
is
a
high
crime
rate.
The
chief
of
police
there
many
years
ago
stood
up
and
said
that
the
legal
license
dispensaries
in
his
community
generated
no
police
calls
and
were
infinitely
safer
than
banks
or
7-elevens.
M
I'm
lisa
aronson,
I
moved
to
thousand
oaks
in
I
1975.
for
leaf's
new
location
leaf
dispensary
is
a
positive
and
vital
need
for
our
community's
health
and
well-being.
Leaf's
new
location
has
been
chosen
following
every
guideline.
M
In
accordance
with
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
the
community
has
agreed
that
not
only
does
leaf
bring
a
high
quality
and
value
to
their
patients
with
illness
such
as
cancer,
arthritis,
insomnia,
heart
disease,
eating
disorders
and
much
more
leaf
is
valuable
to
all,
especially
in
the
serious
pandemic
leaf
has
all
surrounding
communities
in
favor
of
a
local
and
professional
place.
To
pick
up
our
medication
as
traveling
is
limited
and
not
always
convenient
leaf
is
a
very
well
respected
for
over
12
years
of
excellence
and
welcome
to
the
thousand
oaks
community.
M
C
O
D
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
great
hi.
My
name
is
erica
delamo.
I
am
a
resident
of
val's
milk
since
1984
and
I
also
am
a
nurse.
I
work
for
a
local
doctor
here
in
thousand
oaks
and
we
are
a
functional
and
integrated
medical
facility.
We
treat
patients
all
kinds
of
patients
from
cancer
autoimmune
disease.
D
D
We
also
want
to
to
help
with
the
stigma
that
we're
not
sending
patients
who
are
a
bunch
of
you
know,
drug
seekers.
These
are
professional
members
of
our
society
and
really
just
you
know,
looking
for
their
medication.
So
I
highly
highly
recommend
you
guys
go
ahead
and
pass
this
so
that
we
have
a
safe
place
to
send
our
patients.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
J
M
My
name
is
chris
trindade,
I'm
a
resident
of
thousand
oaks.
Thank
you
for
having
me
tonight,
mayor
council
staff.
Thank
you
for
your
tireless
work
for
the
city.
I
know
it's
hard.
I've
been
in
your
in
your
position
before
you
know.
I've
been
following
this
journey
with
council
since
you
granted
the
first
dispensary
opportunity
to
legendary
and
the
second
to
leave,
but
it's
been
frustrating
for
me
since
neither
have
opened
here
in
thousand
oaks.
M
You
know,
city
staff
has
vetted
this
new
address
and,
as
you
know,
as
the
public,
you
know
I
perceive
that
as
a
green
light,
and
it's
a
go.
So
I
think
the
the
council
should
vote
yes,
despite
any
any
self-serving
opposition.
M
I'd
like
to
to
share
a
little
a
bit
myself,
because
I'm
a
dispensary,
customer
and
I'll
do
a
little
show
and
tell
you
know
when
people
hear
of
a
cannabis
dispensary.
I
think
the
immediate
perception
is
that
customers
of
a
dispensary
are
potheads
or
no.
We
can't
have
a
dispensary
within
the
city
because
it
produces
riff,
raff
or
bad
people
hanging
around,
and
this
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth.
M
M
This
bomb
allows
me
to
sleep
and
walk
better
and,
as
I
said,
I
don't
even
smoke,
but
I'm
a
regular
dispenser
customer
and
this
bomb
is
not
cheap
at
a
dispensary
up
in
wai
nibi,
it's
a
hundred
dollars
in
la
it's
135,
so
to
be
self-serving.
I
am
in
support
of
leaf's
new
address
and
hope.
Council
will
vote
in
favor
too
and
I'll
state,
the
obvious,
with
either
location,
opening,
either
legendary
or
leaf
in
2021
I'll,
be
able
to
buy
closer
stay
within
city
limits
and,
of
course
the
city
will
benefit
financially.
M
Like
councilman
mcnamee
stated
you
know
the
public
voted
for
medicinal
cannabis
here.
So
it's
it's
time
and
you
know
if
you
have
any
questions
for
me,
I'm
here
for
you,
but
but
thank
you.
J
N
J
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
know
appreciate
it.
Then
we
have,
I
believe,
josh
is
joining
us
via
phone.
J
M
D
H
H
H
It's
it's
also
affected
my
life
in
such
a
positive
way
that,
like
one
of
the
previous
callers
using
the
bombs,
I
have
really
bad
arthritis
and
a
lot
of
the
cannabis
products
have
really
changed.
My
life-
and
I
know
the
location
in
which
leaf
is
seeking,
and
I
think
it's
a
terrific
location,
it's
going
to
be
a
real
asset
to
the
community
and
I'm
just
calling
to
show
my
support
and
and
david
mcfarland's
operation.
H
J
J
I
H
Ahead,
okay,
hi
yeah,
thanks
for
having
me
my
name
is
alan.
I
lived
in
a
thousand
oaks
for
over
20
years
and
I
I
pretty
much
live
with
chronic
pain
from
a
skiing
accident
and
I'm
just
tired
of
driving
into
the
valley
to
get
my
medicinal
cannabis
and-
and
I
did
my
research
with
leaf
dispensary
and
what
a
class
act
place
and
I've
read
about
it,
and
I
see
that
dave
really
runs
it
like
a
true
business
and
it's
a
class
act
operation.
H
It
really
would
it
would
just
save
me
time
and
and
not
only
me
and
I'm
sure,
just
a
lot
of
people
have
been
hearing
some
of
the
the
comments
and
what
have
you
so
I
kind
of
kind
of
want
to
piggyback
on
those
comments
as
well,
because
it's
just
a
fact,
so
I
I
I
hope
that
they
they
pass
this
on
and
and
the
mayor
approves
it
and
everybody
moves
forward
with
it,
because
I
think
you
know
it'd
be
a
good
asset
for
thousand
oaks.
So.
N
J
J
H
I'm
very
confident
that
anything
that
they
would
commit
to
and
present
to
the
city
to
the
council,
members
and
the
residents
of
thousand
oaks
that
they
would
absolutely
deliver
on.
I'm
not
going
to
bore
everybody
with
echoing
all
the
thoughts
and
comments
that
have
already
been
presented,
both
on
personal
levels,
personal
levels
from
people
who
benefit
from
medicinal
cannabis
use,
as
well
as
all
the
different
benefits
that
could
ultimately
come
to
the
community
on
many
many
different
levels.
H
Additionally,
I
believe
that
it's
a
very
valuable
and
much
needed
service
for
the
residents
that
do
have
ailments
that
are
currently
forced
to
go
outside
of
our
city
limits
to
spend
their
hard
earned
money
and
in
other
cities
that
have
already
approved
medicinal
cannabis
dispensaries
where
we
could
be
taking
advantage
of
of
those
taxation
opportunities.
H
Last
and,
and
certainly
not
least,
if
you
know
just
observing
all
the
comments
happening
tonight,
all
the
comments
that
are
coming
in
for
the
benefit
and
to
support
leaf
dispensary,
as
well
as
the
presentation
for
given
by
mr
mcfarlane
and
and
having
seen
and
observed
mr
burns's
presentation
on
a
different
meeting.
I
I've
taken
notice
that
they
are
have
the
best
interest
of
the
community.
H
Of
course
they
are
business
owners
and
entrepreneurs,
so
there
is
a
personal
benefit
to
them
economically,
but
every
comment
they
make
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
The
opposition
seems
to
have
a
very
self-serving
interest,
which
is
rather
unfortunate.
We
should
look
to
the
benefit
of
the
community,
which
I
believe
lip
dispensary
has,
and
I
support
it,
100
being
both
the
resident
of
newberry
park
in
the
west
vancouver's
community,
as
well
as
a
business
owner
in
the
thousand
oaks
city
limit.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
to
speak
tonight.
Happy
new
year.
H
My
mother
suffers
from
back
pain,
chronic
back
pain
and
unfortunately,
she
is
allergic
to
every
single
painkiller
available.
Every
opiate
is
you
know
something
that
she
cannot
take
and
cannabis.
Legal
cannabis
has
been
a
lifesaver
for
her
and
instead
of
having
to
travel
to
los
angeles,
to
pay
premiums
and
put
tax
dollars
in
in
their
county,
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
come
to
the
leaf
dispensary
and
take
care
of
my
mother's
medicinal
needs
there
and
put
the
tax
dollars
into
ventura
county.
H
I
know
the
operator
the
proposed
operator,
dave,
mcfarlane
and
he's
a
great
individual.
I
think
that
the
location
is
fantastic
and
I
think
it'd
be
a
great
benefit
to
the
community
for
many
reasons
that
were
already
brought
up
by
other
other
people.
Proponents
of
the
leaf
dispensary.
J
D
J
H
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much
well
good
evening.
Everybody.
My
name
is
oliver
summers.
I
am
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
southern
california
coalition,
which
is
one
of
the
larger
cannabis
compliance
groups
in
the
state,
as
well
as
one
of
the
founders
of
the
greater
los
angeles,
collective
alliance
back
in
2007..
H
H
I
think
that
the
persistence
that
they've
shown
in
the
patience
and
diligence
that
they've
put
into
finding
the
new
location
after
the
small
setback
that
they
had
back
in
april,
has
shown
how
they
have
quite
the
dedication
to
thousand
oaks
and
that
they
would
be
an
absolute
benefit
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
all
those
around
and
not
to
be
an
issue
on
it,
but
just
the
original
people
that
were
talking
about
security
and
things.
H
To
that
extent,
it
has
been
known
to
show
that
to
a
rand
study
a
few
years
ago,
that
security
around
dispensaries
actually
gets
increased
and
the
safety
around
the
areas
get
better.
So
not
only
will
they
not
be
bringing
any
issues,
but
they
will
actually
be
making
the
more
area
more
secure.
So
again,
just
want
to
say
that
these
are
great
people.
They've
done
a
great
job.
I've
seen
many
many
an
operator
over
the
time
and
they
are
fantastic
and
thousand
hoes
should
be
thankful
to
have
them
and
that's
it
hope.
J
Thank
you
very
much,
and
that
was
our
last
speaker.
I
will
now
go
to
staff
for
any
questions
I
mean
for
to
answer
questions
or
any
concerns
that
were
raised.
P
P
When
staff
did
its
distance
evaluation,
the
church
did
not
show
up
as
being
within
600
feet,
and
so
I
quickly
went
back
and
looked,
and
I
did
a
measurement
and
saw
that
the
distance
is
six.
It's
more
than
600
feet,
604
feet
from
the
front
door
of
leaf
to
the
property
line
of
where
the
church
is
located,
which
is
which
is
in
compliance
with
the
municipal
code.
C
C
A
youth
center
is
actually
not
is
is
our
policy
is
a
youth
center
is
very
specifically
defined,
so
we
have
the
boys
and
girls
club
or
the
youth
center
next
door
to
the
jans
marketplace.
All
right.
Excuse
me,
jan's
library.
C
J
Q
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
everybody's
comments
tonight.
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
couple
of
quick
comments
on
mr
riley.
I
understand
his
concern
and
I
I
thank
him
for
his
comments
on
that.
One
of
my
main
goals
of
being
a
successful
operator
and
having
no
complaints
is,
is
being
a
good
neighbor.
Okay,
again,
like
I
said
before,
I've
I've
always
have
an
open
communication
with
my
neighbors.
Q
I've
operated
in
two
different
cities,
one
for
13
years
and
one
for
over
two
years,
and
we
have
had
zero
complaints,
zero
problems,
zero
theft,
we
haven't
had
a
broken
window.
We
have
operated
perfect
perfectly
as
perfectly
as
possible
our
cameras.
Q
We
have
cameras
that
cover
every
square
inch
of
the
property
inside
and
out
our
security
system,
and
our
our
facility,
obviously
is
state
of
the
art,
has
motion,
sensors
and
vibration,
sensors
and
all
that,
so
the
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
that
he
was
concerned
about
people
making
the
wrong
turn
or
going
to
the
wrong
driveway.
Q
Well,
I
could
say
most
of
our
customers
that
visit
our
facility
for
the
first
time
they
from
what
I've
seen
they
use
gps.
They
use
their
phones.
The
modern
technology
nowadays
will
help
eliminate
that
and
once
they've
been
to
the
facility
once
they
won't
make
the
mistake
twice
or
they
won't
make
that
mistake
of
the
the
driveway
or
if
they
do
they'll
realize
they're
in
the
wrong
spot,
because
we,
when
you
turn
in
our
driveway,
we
are
the
very
first
building.
Q
So
it's
going
to
be
no
no
mistake
that
they
could
possibly
be
in
the
wrong
driveway,
but
I
I
don't
think
that's
that's
a
problem,
and,
and
one
more
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
I
just
don't
feel
that
that
our
cannabis
dispensary
is
different
than
any
other
business.
That
would
be
going
in
there.
I
mean
you
know.
Other
businesses
could
could
create
foot
traffic
and
parking,
and
all
that,
so
I
don't.
Q
I
just
don't
see
any
difference
between
us
and
like
I've
said
before
and
paul,
and
I
both
have
made
a
pledge
and
promised
to
the
council,
the
members
of
the
community,
that
we
will
be
good.
Neighbors,
we
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
community
and
we
look
forward
to
getting
this
open.
Finally,
so
that's
it.
J
Thank
you
very
much
before
I
close
the
hearing,
I
would
like
to
give
my
colleagues
the
chance
to
ask
any
questions
of
staff,
or
perhaps
the
applicant
or
others
who
would
like
to
go
first
nobody's
raising
his
hand
very
good.
I
will
then
close
the
public
hearing
and
then
open
it
up
for
a
discussion.
G
Mayor,
mr
adam,
if
I
may
thank
you
well,
I
think
we
can
all
see
with
the
experience
we've
had
with
leaf
of
the
past
few
years
that
they
are
a
experienced
operator
with
a
good
trust,
very
good
track
record
they're,
a
dedicated
business
to
their
philosophy
to
help
people
with
their
product.
G
There's
plenty
of
parking
it's
in
a
remote
location,
which
was
really
the
criteria
that
we
were
looking
for
above
all
else,
and
I
think
they
satisfy
that
and
most
importantly,
as
ms
armstrong
brought
up
in
her
remarks,
they're
offering
a
product,
that's
safe,
that's
been
tested,
that's
free
of
contaminants
and
I
can't
think
of
anything
more
important
if
you're
going
to
offer
it
on
a
medicinal
basis
to
someone
who's
suffering,
and
I
can
just
ima
and
I've
read
articles
where
a
lot
of
this
marijuana
that's
being
delivered
from
sources
other
than
someone
like
a
leaf
can
have
contaminants
up
to
80.
G
90
percent
are
contaminated.
We
just
can't
have
that,
especially
here
in
thousand
oaks,
so
you
know
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
we've
got
our
city
attorney
approving
it.
Our
community
development
department
approving
and
our
sheriff's
department
approving
it,
so
I
think
at
this
point
it
for
me.
It
goes
without
saying
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
leaf
operating,
I
think
they're
going
to
do
a
great
job
they're
going
to
offer
a
really
good
service
to
our
city.
J
K
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Just
this
has
been
a
long
time
in
coming
the
we
started
this
process
years
ago
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
our
our
two
vendors
have
stuck
with
it
and
are
proceeding
along.
I
think
I
take
a
somewhat
narrow
view
of
our
purpose.
Here.
K
K
K
Illegal
location
to
buy
these
products,
so
I
think,
leaf,
has
a
track
record
of
being
in
business
in
this
business
for
the
last
13
years
in
two
locations,
I
think
they
they're
bringing
some
expertise
into
our
town.
If
the
bottom
line,
though,
is
if,
if
there's
a
problem
with
their
operation,
there,
we
do
get
a
chance
to
revisit
it
on
a
regular
basis
and
there's
the
people
need
to
work
it
out
at
the.
I
believe
these
are
business,
condos
and
there's
association.
K
J
J
J
D
J
Thank
you.
Let
me
I'm
operating
with
a
different
computer
here.
Thank
you.
We
will
now
begin
with
jim
ashiko.
C
C
C
Implementation
of
the
ordinance
has
nearly
eliminated
the
storage
of
rvs
and
trucks
and
city
streets
and,
as
a
result,
enabled
police
resources
to
be
utilized
more
efficiently.
Over
time.
A
few
of
the
oversized
vehicle
owners
have
found
their
vehicle
is
immune
to
the
ordinance
due
to
the
exception
granted
to
disabled
placards
and
license
plates.
C
This
type
of
behavior
is
common
to
nearly
every
parking
regulation.
In
the
city,
some
vehicle
operators
will
find
a
way
to
skirt
around
the
rules.
Much
like
they
did
72
hour
parking
ordinance
by
moving
their
vehicle
every
71
hours.
Removing
the
placard
exception
would
correct
the
matter
the
police
are
dealing
with.
C
Here's
a
page
from
the
municipal
code,
stating
all
the
exceptions
under
which
the
ordinance
does
not
apply.
The
two
words
covered
in
red
will
be
removed
from
the
ordinance,
if
approved
by
the
city
council.
This
evening,
in
october
of
last
year,
the
city's
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
reviewed
this
matter
and
unanimously
recommended
the
proposal
ordinance
amendment
be
approved
by
the
city
council.
C
So
with
that,
the
recommendation
of
the
staff
and
the
traffic
and
transportation
advisory
commission
is
in
the
staff
report
and
listed
on
this
slide
right
here.
We
also
have
representatives
from
the
thousand
oaks
police
department
also
available.
Besides
mr
hidari
and
myself
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
I
don't
see
mr
adam.
Oh
there.
You
are
okay,
very
good,
so
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
move
approval
of
item
8b.
G
I
just
a
madam
mayor-
I
just
like
to
add
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
this
people
gaming,
the
system
by
parking
these
oversized
vehicles
on
the
street
that
has
to
stop.
They
can
be
hazardous,
they
limit
sight
lines,
they
they're
aesthetically
displeasing
and
they
jut
out
into
the
street
and
impede
traffic.
This
is
a
very
good
loophole
to
close.
G
F
K
D
J
T
T
Here
we
show
the
elements
of
the
sustainability
strategic
plan
that
are
underway
at
the
city
and
their
relationship
to
the
climate
and
environmental
action
plan.
Our
goal
is
to
develop
the
climate
and
environmental
action
plan
in
parallel
with
the
general
plan
over
the
next
12
months,
so
that
they
are
aligned
and
mutually
supportive.
T
The
ceap
will
detail
the
strategies
and
actions
that
the
city
will
pursue
to
protect
the
environment
and
address
the
challenges
of
climate
change.
Actions
will
be
aimed
at
improving
overall
public
health,
sustaining
a
healthy
environment,
reducing
air
pollution,
protecting
our
energy
supply,
mitigating
climate
change
and
its
impact
and
supporting
a
healthy
economy
into
the
future.
T
Making
up
approximately
50
percent
is
shown
in
orange
at
the
bottom,
then
electricity
above
that
in
yellow,
then
the
natural
gas
shown
in
brown
and
the
more
minor
sources
above
that
you
can
see
a
significant
reduction
in
ghd
emissions
from
electricity.
The
yellow
area
result
in
2019
and
2020
due
to
the
council's
decision
to
switch
to
queen
power
alliance
as
the
community's
default
provider
of
electricity
at
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
which
occurred
in
early
2019
in
this
business.
T
As
usual
scenario,
emissions
are
projected
to
be
28
below
2010
values
by
2030
and
increasing
slightly
due
to
population
growth
for
an
approximate
25
reduction
by
2050..
T
You
can
also
see
that,
since
electricity
emissions
reductions
have
largely
been
realized,
the
remaining
ways
to
achieve
significant
further
reductions
are
to
address
the
other
major
emission
sources,
which
are
transportation
and
natural
gas
use
to
address
natural
gas
use.
An
increasing
number
of
cities
in
the
state
are
adopting
building
codes
that
prohibit
or
disincentivize
future
natural
gas
connections
and
require
new
development
to
be
all
electric.
T
Taking
a
look
at
our
transportation
emissions,
these
are
broken
down,
as
shown
here.
The
largest
share
come
from
passenger
vehicles.
Emission
reductions
in
transportation
can
be
achieved
through
more
fuel-efficient
vehicles
through
a
transition
to
electric
or
alternative
fuel.
Vehicles
are
coupled
with
the
electricity
being
supplied
by
renewable
energy
or
a
reduction
in
vehicles.
My
in-vehicle
miles,
traveled
vehicle
miles
can
best
be
reduced
by
providing
opportunities
for
people
to
live
and
work
in
the
city
or
telecom,
or
to
telecommute
by
providing
more
walkable
neighborhoods
walkable
access
to
services
and
higher
density,
residential
and
or
mixed-use
development.
T
T
T
The
larger
majority
of
respondents
want
the
city
to
set
ghg
emission
reduction
targets
aligned
with
those
of
the
state
40
percent
by
2030
and
80
by
2050.
T
J
B
T
If
we
have
a
climate
action
plan
in
place,
then
we
don't
also
have
to
go
through
that
separate
eir
for
the
ghd
emissions,
so
it
has
advantages
in
that
respect
and
if.
F
If
I
might
add
to
that
kevin
just
really
quickly,
they
they
also
they
also
bond
rating
agencies
commonly
asked
for
that
information
or
that
type
of
documentation
when
doing
bond
ratings.
B
T
B
T
We
will
be
assisted
by
the
regulations
regarding
clean
vehicles,
for
example,
the
transition
to
electric
vehicles
and
to
clean
vehicles
in
in
california
in
particular,
will
really
help
to
reduce
our
transportation
emissions
and
then
obviously
you
know
it
depends
to
some
extent
on
the
measures
that
we
decide
to
take
on.
You
know
our
land
use
decisions,
for
example
with
with
the
general
plan
and
whether
or
not
we
want
to
adopt
any
what
so-called
reach
codes
or
codes
that
improve
our
energy
efficiency
requirements
in
new
construction,
for
example,
but
they're
they're
certainly
reachable.
B
Well
time
will
tell,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
there.
K
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
miss
cox.
The
the
state
of
course
wishes
that
we
go
this
direction,
which
is
which
I
think
aligns
somewhat
with
the
findings
that
your
survey
showed
as
well
with
a
vast
majority
of
people
who
are
were
inclined
to
become
better
stewards
of
our
of
our
environment,
so
to
speak.
T
Oh
yes,
for
sure
the
majority
of
the
respondents
are
so
they
are
definitely
in
favor
of
having
a
plan,
a
climate
action
plan
and
one
that
would
at
least
meet
these.
These
state
aggressive
goals
of
the
state.
K
So
the
the
the
minimum,
I
suppose
would
be
the
if
I
remember
the
numbers
right:
80
percent,
that
of
our
2010
amounts
by
2050
and
was
it
40
percent
at
2030..
T
T
So
setting
targets
tonight
does
not
preclude
them
being
changed
either
one
way
or
another.
T
In
the
final
plan
that
comes
to
you
in
in
the
fall,
ultimately,
the
emission
reductions
will
be
determined
by
the
strategies
that
the
community
is
prepared
to
adopt
and
they'll
be
participating
in
this
development
of
the
climate
action
plan,
and
so
you
know
in
particular,
they're
going
to
they're
going
to
depend
significantly
on
actions
related
to
natural
gas
use
and
land
use
decisions
that
are
made
in
the
general
plan
update,
which
are
an
important
driver
of
the
transportation
emissions.
T
So
this
is
a
sort
of
a
a
working
goal
to
start
with
and
then
trying
to
develop
strategies
around
that.
But
the
actual
final
target
would
come
before
you
as
part
of
the
plan
in
the
fall.
K
And,
and
since
these
are
these
are
goals
that
we
happen
to
align
with
what
the
state
wants
us
to
go
to
apparent
to
our
surveys,
is
there
a
penalty
if
we
don't
achieve
the
goal,
or
is
this
something?
This
is
a
goal
that
we're
really
going
to
try
to
achieve,
and
it's
more
important
that
we
in
the
effort,
rather
than
really
the
result,
or
how
would
you
see
that.
T
I,
as
far
as
eirs
are
concerned,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
where
that
lies
with
respect
to
the
emissions
reductions
or
you
know
aligning
new
developments
and
and
things
along
that
line
with
the
with
the
general
plan.
But
as
far
as
just
the
climate
action
plan,
there
are
no
penalties
for
not
meeting
those
particular
targets.
J
Very
good,
mr
adam,
before
we
go
back
to
council
member
mcnamee,
mr
adam,
did
you.
G
Yeah
kevin
can
go
ahead.
Did
he
have
a
question.
B
Thank
you.
The
the
question
I
have
here
is
that
essentially,
transportation
is
one
of
the
is
actually
the
largest
ghd
that
we're
looking
at
here
and
how
to
tailor
that,
and
you
suggested
well
we're.
Looking
at
the
advent
and
the
introduction
and
the
growth
of
electric
cars
and
other
options,
is
it
going
to
get
to
the
point
where
we'll
say?
Okay,
everyone
can't
have
a
combustible
engine
and
you
must
have
a
certain
miles
per
gallon
with
your
vehicle,
and
you
cannot
drive
only
so
many
miles
within
the
city
you.
B
You
must
compel
yourself
to
use
bicycles.
What
what
do
we
have
other
than
market
forces
that
are
already
underway
to
get
us
to
that
goal,
because
I
I
don't
want
to
have
a
city,
that's
going
to
say
to
people
that
you
have
limitations
on
your
freedoms
of
movement
and
how
you
want
to
move
in
a
legal
aspect.
Just
so.
B
We
meet
these
goals
and
I
can
see
some
conflict
coming
up
where
the
the
meetings
that
you're,
having
with
the
community,
come
up
with
things
that
may
not
really
align
with
freedom
of
movement
and
choice
of
how
they
want
to
move
through
the
city
just
to
meet
these
goals:
doc,
doc
cox.
What's
your
thoughts
on
that.
T
I
don't
see
that
there's
any
way
that
the
city
is
going
to
be
mandating,
what
kind
of
vehicles
people
have
or
when
they
can
drive
or
not
drive.
It's
more
that
the
state
has
is,
has
put
in
place
new
restrictions
on
the
vehicles
that
will
be
sold
in
the
future.
So
you
know,
governor
newsom
has
an
executive
order
that
all
new
passenger
vehicles
will
be
zero
emission
by
2035.
T
So
obviously,
that's
going
to
make
a
big
difference
once
we
get
that
far
along
before
that
there
is
a
transition,
certainly
to
cleaner
vehicles
and
higher
mileage
vehicles,
and
that
again
those
standards
have
been
put
in
place
by
the
state.
T
I
see
it
more
as
the
city
supporting
some
of
those
efforts
through
charging
infrastructure,
for
example,
you
know
whether
it
requires
charging
infrastructure
to
go
in
with
you
know:
new
development,
residential
commercial,
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
city
would
be
involved
in
and
how
much
infrastructure
the
city
itself
provides.
T
B
I
follow
up
on
that
question.
Is
that
some
of
the
housing
that
we
have
here
in
thousand
oaks?
One
bedroom
has
1.6
parking
spaces
allocated
for
a
unit.
Well,
if
you've
got
two
people
living
there
and
they
have
to
have
one
car
to
go
to
glendale
the
other
one
to
go
to
camarillo,
1.6
doesn't
work,
but
yet
1.6
parking
spaces
is
wholly
inadequate
for
two
cars
because
which
part
of
the
transmission
do
you
leave
in
the
parking
structure
and
which
one
go.
B
What
what
rest
of
the
car
goes
out
on
the
street
and
that
to
me,
that's
appears
to
be
social
engineering
trying
to
force
people
into
one
vehicle
and
the
other
person
has
to
figure
out
transportation,
either
locally
and
or
public
transportation
to
get
them
to
camarillo
or
ventura
or
whatever.
The
case
may
be.
B
Should
we
be
restricting
the
amount
of
parking
for
residents
here
in
the
developments
that
are
being
proposed
or
accommodate
what
is
currently
being
used
as
in
two
vehicles,
while
parking
per
one
bedroom
so
that
way
they
do
have
it
and
then
let
the
market
take
care
of
the
transition
towards
more
environmentally
friendly
vehicles.
T
I'm
probably
not
the
best
person
taught
those
planning
decisions
necessarily,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
examining
as
we
develop.
The
climate
action
plan
is
to
look
at
our
building
codes
and
the
codes
that
support.
T
You
know
the
the
transition
to
reduced
emissions
and
we'll
look
at
the
codes
that
other
cities
have
put
in
place
and
the
ones
that
are
working
well,
so
part
of
the
planning
process
is
to
sort
of
evaluate
those
things.
I
don't
have
an
answer
to
that
right
now.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
is
wants
to
comment
on
well.
F
I'll,
just
I'll
just
you
know,
speak
to
a
briefly
councilmember
back
to
me,
so
parking
requirements
are
set
on
a
tied
to
zoning
and
entitlement
and
they're
set
on
a
basis,
sometimes
that's
directed
by
the
state
and
so
in.
In
this
case,
it
wouldn't
tie
directly
into
this.
G
Oh,
thank
you
mayor.
Just
just
a
comment.
Let
me
I
think,
thousand
works
is
well
on
the
way
to
lowering
our
ghds
and
we
were
perennial
beacon,
award
winners.
We've
lowered
ghds
in
the
community
side
on
the
municipal
side-
and
I
I
do
want
to
say
briefly-
commend
dr
cox
and
our
committee
for
the
elimination,
the
eventual
elimination
of
single-use
plastics
here
in
town,
I'm
just
reading
the
other
day.
G
So
thank
you,
dr
cox,
for
that
and
as
as
mr
powers
is
saying,
you
know
this
all
goes
back
to
ab32.
Fran
pavley
was
co-authored
that
bill
that
that
wants
to
lower
greenhouse
gases.
Then
we
had
a
sister
bill.
Come
up
a
senate
bill
that
linked
it
to
vehicle
miles.
Traveled,
that's
the
big
key
here.
G
Fifty
percent
of
greenhouse
gases
come
from
come
from
cars
and
thousand
oaks
is
a
car
dependent
city
was
designed
that
way.
There's
a
walkability
factor
that
is
assigned
to
all
our
homes.
My
home
here
in
thousand
oaks,
got
a
nine
nine
out
of
a
hundred
totally
car
dependent,
but
we
are
working
slowly
but
surely
to
try
to
change
that
that
equation,
and
that
comes
up
with
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
on
the
boulevard,
trying
to
make
it
a
walkable
area
trying
to
have
people
live
and
work
in
the
same
area.
G
1710
is
a
perfect
example.
299
is
another
good
example
just
to
stay
safe.
These
are
mixed-use
projects
that
people
can
live
and
work
and
have
amenities
and
not
have
to
get
in
their
cars.
People
are
tired
of
having
to
drive
everywhere
when
they
need.
You
know
just
the
slightest
thing,
so
we
are
on
the
right
track
there.
These
land
use
decisions
are
important,
they'll
come
up
in
the
general
plan
update,
and
they
will
also
go
a
long
way.
I
think
in
lowering
greenhouse
gases.
G
We
don't
we
don't
need
people
to
commute
from
here
to
ventura
from
here
down
to
the
valley.
We
wanted
to
stay
here
and
work
and
we're
headed
in
that
right
direction
with
the
way
we're
anticipating
building
some
housing
so
well.
I
guess
at
that
point
I
could
make
a
motion.
You
know.
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
We
need
to
comply
with
the
state
and
I
do
think
electric
cars
are
the
way
of
the
future
tesla
stocks
up
seven,
seven
hundred
percent
in
the
last
year.
G
It
seems
to
be
more
and
more
popular
way
to
go
with
driving
so.
J
Mr
adam,
mr
adam,
if
you
could
just
wait
with
your
motion,
because
I
actually
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
this,
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
weigh
in
as
well.
These
are,
of
course,
wonderful
goals,
ambitious
goals,
but
I
believe
that
thousand
oaks
has
been
the
leader
really
in
terms
of
the
environment
and
environmental
protection
and
fuel
efficiency
with
our
fleet,
for
example,
hill
canyon
treatment
plant,
our
municipal
service
center.
J
I
mean
we
are
a
leader
in
sustainability
and
therefore
I
would
like
to
see,
as
has
been
suggested
also
by
different
members
of
the
six
stakeholders
group,
to
see
if
we
could
not
increase
from
40
to
45
and
then
instead
of
80.
Why
don't
we
go
to
to
100
or
a
net
zero?
So
I
really
would
like
knowing
what
thousand
oaks
is
capable
of
doing
and
knowing
how
committed
people
are
to
clean
air
and
clean
water
that
perhaps
we
could
move
that
those
goals
just
a
tad
bit
higher.
J
S
S
It's
it
makes
me
really
proud
to
live
here
in
the
four
and
a
half
billion
years
that
the
earth
has
existed.
It
has
undergone
five
major
mass
extinction.
Events
currently
we're
in
the
sixth,
but
this
one
it's
a
little
different.
It's
the
only
mass
extinction
to
actually
be
caused
by
another
species
humans.
S
Some
experts
estimate
that
we
could
be
losing
as
many
as
2
000
species
a
year
as
a
biologist.
I
can't
describe
the
pain
and
grief
that
our
jobs
now
entail.
It
feels
as
though
we're
tasked
with
plugging
holes
in
a
sinking
ship,
it's
heartbreaking
and
it's
terrifying,
because
we
humans
aren't
actually
exempt
from
this
fate.
We
rely
on
nature,
clean
air,
water
and
food
just
as
much
as
the
next
mammal.
S
Selfishly
I'd
like
to
do
more
with
my
life
other
than
trying
to
save
our
oceans
from
becoming
garbage
dumps
and
watching
migratory
songbirds
go
extinct.
I
want
to
be
able
to
raise
a
family
and
know
that
I'm
bringing
children
into
this
world
that
will
be
allowed
a
quality
of
life,
or
at
least
a
chance
at
survival.
S
I'd
like
to
know
that
their
lives
will
not
be
spent
entirely
on
correcting
the
mistakes
of
past
generations,
but
the
longer
we
wait
to
reduce
our
emissions,
the
less
this
option
seems
likely.
According
to
the
international
food
policy
research
institute,
4.8
billion
people,
that's
more
than
half
of
the
world's
population
and
half
of
the
global
grain
production
will
be
at
risk
due
to
water
stress
by
2050.
S
If
a
business,
as
usual
emissions
scenario
persists,
that's
why
tonight
I'm
urging
you
to
adopt
stricter
greenhouse
gas
emission
reductions
goals
than
those
recommended.
The
goals
proposed
in
item
9a
are
simply
not
enough
to
maintain
habitable
and
abundant
life
in
thousand
oaks.
According
to
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change,
the
ipcc,
limiting
global
warming
to
1.5
degrees
celsius
would
require
rapid
and
far-reaching
transitions
in
all
of
our
sectors.
S
S
Moreover,
many
jurisdictions
in
california
that
have
climate
action
plans
have
established
targets
that
exceed
the
state's
goals,
so
let's
keep
thousand
oaks
habitable
and
safe
for
future
generations
and
make
our
reputation
one
of
environmental
leadership
regionally
and
internationally.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Thank.
S
S
S
The
staff
report
notes
that
quote
more
than
200
local
jurisdictions
across
california
have
responded
with
climate
action
plans.
The
majority
which
established
targets
in
line
with
or
exceeded
the
state's
goals
and
a
quote
ventura
county
is
warming
faster
than
39
million
counties
in
the
us
per
the
union
of
concerned
scientists.
This
is
a
primary
reason.
It
is
imperative
that
thousand
oaks
join
the
list
of
200
cities
and
adopt
more
aggressive
ghg
targets.
S
I
don't
agree
that
the
proposed
ghe
levels
achieve
b
and
e
extreme
heat
drought
wildfires
do
not
make
thousand
oaks
a
desirable
city
any
longer,
and
thousand
oaks
is
not
an
environmental
leader
if
it
isn't
willing
to
join
the
cities,
they're
adopting
more
aggressive
levels,
let's
adopt
carbon
neutrality
levels
by
2045
and
make
thousand
oaks
a
desirable
place
to
live
in
again
and
build
thousand
oaks
reputation
as
an
environmental
city
leader.
Thank
you.
S
You
hear
me:
yes,
we
can
great
good
evening
mayor
and
council
members.
My
name
is
roseanne
whitt
with
the
kanejoe
climate
coalition,
I'm
urging
an
emissions
reduction
target
in
line
with
science
of
no
less
than
ipcc's
directive
of
45
of
2010
levels
by
2030
and
net
zero
by
2050.
in
september.
Our
governor
ordered
carbon
neutrality
no
later
than
20
45.
S
S
I've
followed
the
climate
science
for
two
decades
and
though
I've
lived
in
california
42
years
until
the
thomas
fire,
when
santa
anna's
blew
an
unthinkable
13
days,
I
never
gave
wildfire
a
thought,
but
since
my
home
and
husband
were
directly
threatened
in
the
woolsey
fire,
I
think
about
it
every
day
and
grow
anxious
every
time
the
winds,
howl
thousand
oaks.
Average
temperature
is
projected
to
rise
three
to
five
degrees
by
2040
for
an
additional
three
and
a
half
weeks
per
year
of
heat
over
90
degrees
and
a
500
increase
in
days
over
100.
S
living
in
the
fastest
warming
county
in
the
lower
48
makes
a
stronger
target.
Mandatory
extreme
heat
makes
hiking
one
of
my
personal
passions.
Life
threatening
and
toxic
wildfire
smoke
has
confined
all
of
us
inside
our
homes
for
weeks
at
a
time,
but
expect
far
worse.
If
we
don't
target
emissions
reductions.
S
As
current
science
demands,
ipcc
concluded
that
every
fraction
of
extra
heating
will
worsen
climate
impacts
by
a
lot
that
extra
half
a
degree
that
ipcc's
directive
is
intended
to
avoid
places
increasing
demands
on
our
state's
already
strained
grid,
making
heat
waves
more
deadly,
it
intensifies
wildfires,
polluting
our
air
and
raising
health
costs.
It
reduces
our
snowpack,
worsening
drought
and
water
scarcity.
S
It
expands
the
range
of
mosquitoes
carrying
deadly
disease
and
sets
massive
numbers
of
refugees
in
motion
risking
widespread
economic
collapse.
Far
worse
than
covid,
my
family
has
already
discussed
how
much
longer
we
can
stay
here
before
it
becomes
too
dangerous,
not
to
leave
one
friend
relocates
next
week.
Four
more
dear
families,
whom
I've
known
since
moving
here
26
years
ago,
are
also
eyeing.
The
exits
climate
chaos
is
personal.
It
threatens
everything
I
love
my
family
and
friends.
My
enjoyment
of
the
outdoors,
my
home,
my
community
since
ipcc,
reached
consensus.
S
Two
years
ago,
data
shows
feedback,
loops
and
the
pace
of
heating
is
accelerating.
Their
directive
is
the
minimum
you
can
consider
to
have
any
chance
of
ensuring
a
prosperous
thousand
oaks
going
forward,
be
courageous
and
do
what's
right.
Please
raise
the
target.
Thank
you
for
considering
my
comments.
S
J
J
H
I
would
especially
like
to
to
thank
john
brooks
and
helen
cox
of
the
sustainability
division
for
their
dedication,
excellent
communication
and
commitment
to
making
thousand
oaks
and
environmentally
conscious
city
I'm
going
to
keep
it
short
tonight
and
just
point
out
that
the
ipcc,
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change,
says
that
the
entire
world
will
need
to
reach
net
zero
by
2050
to
avoid
the
worst
impacts
of
climate
change.
I
would
ask
the
city
council
consider
the
ipcc's
recommendations
of
a
45
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2030
and
a
net
zero
by
2050
at
minimum.
H
B
To
be
a
citizen
of
this
city,
because
it
cares
about
acting
for.
H
H
By
2030
and
net
zero
by
2050.,
you've
heard
many
speakers
mention
that,
but
that's
where
we
got
to
go
all
cities,
states
and
nations
must
do
their
part
if
we
are
to
preserve
human
civilization.
This
is
serious.
If
we
don't
get
this
under
control,
our
grandchildren
will
suffer
and
be
burdened
with
unbearable
costs.
H
T
We
can
set
whatever
targets
you
choose.
I
would
say
that,
as
we
get
into
the
planning
stage,
what
we
should
do
is
have
the
stakeholders
look
at
a
range
of
different
options
and
strategies
and
see
what
emissions
reductions
those
would
generate
and
present
those
options
to
council
to
choose.
You
know,
based
on
the
on
the
strategies
that
they
would
prefer
to
adopt,
so
we
don't
have
to
set
a
hard
and
fast
goal
right
now.
T
This
is
a
starting
point
for
us
to
aim
for,
but
as
the
plan
and
the
the
strategies
are
evaluated,
then
that
would
give
us
sort
of
a
range
of
emissions
reductions
that
were
possible
based
on
which
strategies
we
wanted
to
adopt.
So
that
might
be
a
possible
solution.
Is
that
council
would
be
presented
with
those
options
down
the
road?
T
J
I
think
that
would
be
a
viable
option
to
do
any
other
questions
or
comments.
K
Thank
you,
ma'am,
miss
cox.
The
the
proposal
you
have
currently
before
us
is
the
the
state
recommendation
of
forty
percent
and
eighty
percent.
If
I
remember
right
is
that
that's
not
the
maximum
we
can
go
for,
we
can
we
go
more
than
that
in
terms
of
as
we
go
through
this
the
process
to
look
at
the
different
techniques
that
we
can
use.
K
T
Absolutely
so
I
would
say
this
is
we
could
regard
this
as
a
sort
of
a
minimum
target
and
then
try
to
identify
strategies
beyond
this.
That
would
reduce
the
emissions
further
meeting.
Perhaps
the
targets
that
some
of
the
speakers
have
have
proposed
and
you
know,
do
our
modeling
up
and
obviously
you
know.
Ultimately,
the
reductions
are
going
to
be
determined
by
by
the
strategies
we
can.
T
We
can
make
a
plan
or
we
can
set
a
target,
but
unless
we
have
strategies
to
get
us
to
that
target
that
are
acceptable,
then
you
know
it
remains
just
just
a
target.
So
ultimately
those
emissions
are
going
to
be
determined
by
what
strategies
the
community
is
is
prepared
to
adopt
and
those
are
going
to
be
determined
by
participation
of
the
community
over
the
next
few
months,
one
and
including
the
land
use
decisions
you
know
made
it
made
with
the
general
plan.
T
That's
going
to
be
a
pretty
important,
determining
factor
also
so
important
things
to
weigh
up.
You
know
both
with
the
climate
action
plan
and
with
the
general
plan.
I
would
also
say
that
you
know
this
is:
is
it's
going
to
be
a
10
year
plan,
so
yeah
the
20
30
targets
are
important,
but
we
are
planning
to
review
it
after
five
years.
T
So
we
can
take
another
look
five
years
from
now
and
see
what's
changed,
see
where
we
stand
see
where
the
states
stand
see
what
the
new
international
targets
are,
and
we
can
make
revisions
at
that
time
as
we
choose.
K
So
it's
going
to
be
a
living
document
then,
but
what
you
proposed
today,
it
it's
it's
in
conformity
with
the
the
survey
that
the
citizens
were
participated
in
earlier
and
also
in
conforming
with
the
the
state
that
we
know
as
of
right.
Now
I
understand
from
our
speakers
that
the
state
may
be
escalating
the
the
the
wishes
for
ghg
emissions.
T
Right
absolutely,
the
the
goals
that
are
in
the
staff
report
are
the
current
state
targets,
with
the
exception
of
the
state,
did
add
a
carbon
neutrality
goal
by
2045
and
is
probably
going
to
evaluate
whether
to
move
the
targets
in
line
with
some
of
the
new
ipcc
recommendations
that
the
speakers
mentioned,
which
would
be
a
45
reduction
rate
2030
that
hasn't
been
adopted
as
yet.
It
doesn't
prohibit
us
from
adopting
it.
T
But
I
would
say
that
the
targets
that
are
in
the
staff
report-
maybe
we
want
to
set
as
a
sort
of
a
a
minimum
starting
point
and
then
see
whether
strategists
take
us
and
and
get
those
options
back
back
to
council.
When
we
bring
the
plan
and
the
strategies
back
to
council.
I
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
I'm
in
full,
I
guess
I've
lost
the
video
part,
but
I'm
not
very
good
looking,
so
I
I
don't
mind
if
we're
going
to
go
to
more
and
more
electric
devices,
rather
particularly
for
transportation,
that
means
we're
going
to
have
to
be
generating,
obviously,
more
electricity.
I
I
wonder
if
dr
cox
knows
what
portion
of
our
electricity
approximately
is
being
generated
through
the
use
of
coal
or
natural
gas,
you
know
that
that
creates
air
pollution
as
opposed
to
wind
and
solar.
Do
we
have
any
idea
how
much
of
of
the
electricity
is
being
generated
through
substances
that
pollute
the
air
when
they're
burned.
T
T
They
do
have
other
programs,
that
are
lesser
amounts
and
more
from
natural
gas,
but
the
state
has
what
they
call
a
renewable
portfolio
standard,
which
means
that
the
the
generators,
what
they
call
the
load
serving
entities,
the
people
that
put
the
power
on
the
grid,
the
and
the
utility
companies
have
to
abide
by,
and
that's
called
the
rps
or
renewable
portfolio
standard
so
currently
about
36
percent
of
the
california
energy
on
the
grid,
action
that
may
be
southern
california
edison.
So
our
provider
here
are
our
other
providers
selling.
T
California
anderson
is
about
at
36
renewable
right
now,
and
the
state
has
required
that
the
energy
going
on
to
the
grid
is
60
renewable
by
2030..
The
other
40
percent
now
isn't
necessarily
from
fossil
fuels.
In
fact,
some
of
that
other
40
is
from
hydroelectric
and
from
nuclear,
so
those
are
also
carbon
free.
They
just
don't
count
as
part
of
what
they
call
the
renewable
portfolio,
so
a
smaller
and
smaller
fraction
of
the
electricity
is
generated
from
those
so-called
dirty
sources,
but
southern
california
edison
doesn't
operate
any
coal
plants
anymore.
T
I
Are
are
there
any
other
sources
other
than
wind
and
solar?
For
example,
I've
been
at
the
ocean
at
the
beach
and
know
those
tides
can
be
pretty
strong.
Is
there?
Is
there
ever
any
attempt
to
to
to
try
to
utilize
those
ocean
tides
to
generate
power.
T
T
So
for
a
region
like
southern
california,
that
has
a
lot
of
other
of
solar
and
wind
resources
that
wouldn't
be
the
most
economical
one
for
other
areas
of
the
world,
but
that
could
be
a
better
alternative,
particularly,
as
I
said
other
places,
northern
europe
and
stuff
that
doesn't
have
as
much
sunlight
as
we
do
here,
but
for
here
it
turns
out
that
it's
cheaper
to
generate
that
energy
from
the
sun
and
the
wind,
but
tidal
energy
is,
is
available.
It's
just
a
matter
of
the
economics.
I
Well,
just
a
final
question:
are
we
expanding
these
wind
farms
and
solar
panels
at
all
right
now,
in
california,.
T
I
You
know
I
would
go
along
with
the
idea
that
the
mayor
and
and
council
and
engler,
I
believe
about
expanding
these
goals.
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
doing
that.
It
seems
like
we
try
harder
if
we
set
the
goals
higher.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
around
when
we
reach
these
goals
or
when
we
reach
these
years,
but
I
think
we
ought
to.
We
ought
to
expand
the
goals.
I
mean
every
time
a
halfback
grabs,
a
football
on
a
run
he's
trying
to
make
a
touchdown.
I
G
G
Thank
you.
I
must
say
I
think
it
makes
eminent
sense
with
dr
coss
who's,
suggesting
that
we
go
with
the
state
of
california
and
the
staff
recommendations
and
as
a
minimum
for
ghd
reduction
as
a
minimum.
These
we're
just
giving
guidance
tonight
that
can
be
raised.
I'd
like
to
hear
what
the
stakeholder
group
has
to
say
of
over
20
people
and
I'd
also,
since
this
is
tied
very
closely
to
the
general
plan,
update
I'd
like
to
see
how
that
works
out
as
well,
particularly
with
land
use.
G
I'd
like
to
see
how
some
of
the
people
that
are
ardently
in
favor
of
greenhouse
gas
reduction,
which
I
think
most
of
us
are
also
will
feel
about
the
kind
of
housing
that
would
result
in
greenhouse
gas
reduction,
I'm
speaking
specifically
about
housing
along
the
101
corridor
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
years
now.
That
would
be
mixed
use
in
in
intent
and
perhaps
somewhat
denser,
but
would
also
make
the
boulevard
walkable
pedestrian
friendly,
cut
down
on
vehicle
miles,
traveled
and
greenhouse
gases.
So
I
think
you
see
where
I'm
going
here.
J
Thank
you,
mr
adam.
I
think
it
is
clear
that
they
go
hand
in
hand,
and
this
is
why.
S
J
G
J
G
Development
that
is
mixed
use
or
is
denser
than
a
single
family,
home
sprawling
type
tract,
and
yes,
there
has
been.
There
has
been
a
very
distinct
community,
as,
although
I
think
in
the
minority,
distinct
community
opposition
to
these
types
of
housing,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
a
conundrum,
because
this
is
also
the
very
housing
that
these
folks
want.
That
will
lower
the
greenhouse
gases
that
these
folks
want.
J
Now
the
the
issue
is
is,
of
course,
the
excessive
super
density,
whether
that
makes
sense.
If
we
build
excessive
super
density
and
still
have
people
driving
all
over
the
place
to
get
to
their
workplace,
then
then
it
doesn't
really
make
any
sense.
So
we
have
to
make
sure
we
don't.
G
J
And
we
will
have
a
stakeholder
group
that
will
look
at
this,
and
so
the
minimum,
the
minimum
that
we
can
set,
is
what
is
recommended
tonight.
But
to
the
the
language,
and
the
recommendation
really
is
two
specific,
because
it
says
we
will
have
a
target
of
40
below
2010
levels
by
2030,
when
in
fact
we
would
like
to
see
much
more
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
the
recommendation.
J
So,
mr
adam,
if
you're
willing
to
make
a
a
motion
that
would
include
that
this
is
a
minimum,
but
that
the
expectation
is
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
exceed
that.
I
think
that
is
something
I
could
go
along
with.
G
Yeah,
no,
that's
fine!
I
would
be
willing
to
make
a
motion
that
this
be
a
minimum
and
that
we
evaluate
the
possibility
of
going
higher,
depending
on
certain
factors
depending
on
our
stakeholder
group,
depending
on
the
general
plan
update,
depending
on
some
of
the
housing
element
that
I've
spoken
about.
All
that
is
very
important
to
see
the
community
attitudes
and
the
willingness
to
make
certain
sacrifices
to
lower
greenhouse
gases.
So,
yes,
I
would.
I
would
categorize
this
as
a
minimum.
J
Very
good:
we
also
need
to
keep
in
mind
our
forestry
element
also
very
important
to
cut
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Absolutely
so
is
that
a
motion
then,
mr
adam.
J
G
G
J
F
Yes,
mayor
bill
pena,
thank
you
as
we
close
out
this
this
meeting.
I
just
want
to
share
with
you.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
two
weeks
from
tonight.
On
the
26th
of
january.
F
F
Let
her
share
a
little
bit
about
that
when
we
get
get
to
that
that
item,
we
do
have
one
public
hearing
a
micro
grid
project
at
the
hill
canadian
treatment
plant-
that's
currently
slated
for
that
evening,
and
we
have
our
first
of
what
will
be
several
pre-screens
that
we
talked
about
late
last
year,
and
this
will
be
the
pre-screen
for
the
applicant
mill
creek
at
500,
east
thousand
oaks
boulevard,
which
is
the
better
known
as
the
nazarbeakian
property,
so
that
will
be
heard
on
the
26th.
F
J
Thank
you,
mr
powers,
and
before
we
adjourn,
I
would
like
to
share
with
you
the
background
of
three
wonderful
people
who
sadly
passed
away
recently.
J
The
first
german
to
this
evening
will
be
in
memory
of
marilyn,
jane
hogan,
who
passed
away
on
november
24th
just
days
before
her
93rd
birthday
lynn
was
married
to
her
high
school
sweetheart
ed
for
69
years.
Together
they
built
a
highly
successful
business
and
they
established
a
legacy
of
philanthropy
through
the
hogan
family
foundation.
J
She
had
an
acumen
for
finance
which
made
her
a
successful
businesswoman
managing
the
growth
of
pleasant
holidays,
which
is
a
business
that
she
developed
with
her
husband.
Lynn
was
in
the
top
200
women
in
travel
and
received
many
awards
and
accolades,
including
being
named
2016
woman
of
the
year
by
the
greater
kaneho
valley
chamber
of
commerce.
J
Lynn
was
especially
proud
of
the
hogan
family
foundation,
which
was
established
to
promote
entrepreneurship
and
philanthropic
interests.
The
foundation
created
a
four
and
a
half
acre
space.
The
public
could
use
as
its
own
oasis,
known
as
the
gardens
of
the
world
right
across
from
city
hall.
In
the
lakes,
the
hogans
were
included
in
the
first
100
founders,
who
supported
the
civic
arts
plaza,
and
they
were
recognized
by
the
alliance
for
the
arts
with
a
lifetime
achievement
for
the
arts
award
for
their
contribution.
J
J
He
passed
away
christmas
day
at
the
age
of
99.
harry,
had
the
wonderful
ability
to
engage
and
positively
impact
his
peers
and
community,
he
was
compassionate.
Innovative,
inspiring
and
thousand
oaks
has
benefited
immensely
from
his
lifetime.
Civic
achievements
harry
was
born
at
the
beginning
of
the
roaring
twenties
living
through
the
great
depression
and
he
was
an
army
air
corps
mechanic
servicing
aircraft
during
the
allied
invasion
of
france
in
world
war
ii,
professionally
perry
was
an
engineer
who
has
worked
at
puerto
anima
for
the
navy
and
westinghouse
nuclear
in
nevada.
J
As
a
long-time
resident
of
thousand
oaks,
he
participated
in
numerous
volunteer
services
in
our
community
harry
served
on
the
global
center
commission
18
years
at
conejo
free
clinic.
He
was
editor
of
the
newsletter
senior
buzz.
He
was
an
english
tutor
at
conejo
valley,
adult
school
and
volunteer
in
policing,
with
his
wife,
arlene
at
ages,
68
and
73.
J
Together,
they
ventured
out
every
thursday
morning
with
a
car
full
of
food
through
the
meals
on
wheels
program
to
help
homebound
seniors.
They
continue
delivering
food
well
into
their
80s
and
90s,
but
one
of
the
most
important
roles
for
harry
was
as
a
trailblazer
and
champion
for
seniors
for
16
years.
He
was
on
the
council
on
aging,
with
six
of
those
years
as
chair.
J
J
J
J
Alex
was
elected
in
1964
as
a
member
of
the
original
city
council
and
he
retired
in
1994
after
30
years
of
community
service,
including
six
terms
as
mayor,
he
was
a
founding
father
and
major
contributor
to
the
city's
master
plan.
As
chairman
of
the
finance
committee,
alex
fury
was
not
content
to
just
have
a
seat
on
the
council.
No,
he
was
a
true
leader
who
was
willing
to
take
measured
risks
for
things.
He
believed
in
every
aspect
of
the
community
has
his
touch
on
it
from
wildwood
mesa
to
the
malls.
J
Everyone
was
welcome
to
sit
with
him
where
he
would
answer
questions
listen
to
concerns
talk
about
current
events
and
what
help
you
with
your
taxes.
If
you
ask
his
name
has
been
placed
to
our
community
baseball
fields,
affordable
housing,
complex
and
our
teen
center,
alex
fury
passed
away
in
2002
living
a
full
life.
He
had
a
great
sense
of
humor
and
a
quick
wit
as
a
bridge
player
alex
achieved
a
rank
of
bronze
life
master.
He
loved
to
travel,
play
the
harmonica
and
guitar
and
was
a
great
fan
of
all
sporting
events.
A
J
His
wife,
katie
and
all
his
family
and
friends,
alex's,
commitment,
leadership
and
passion
for
public
service
is
an
important
part
of
thousands
of
history
and
future,
and
with
that
we
end
our
first
meeting
of
2021
a
year
that
I
sincerely
hope
will
hold
the
promise
of
being
a
good
year.
Thank
you
to
all
my
council
and
city
staff.
The
meeting
is
adjourned
until
our
next
meeting
on
january
26th
be
safe,
be
healthy.