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From YouTube: COSCA Meeting | February 9, 2022 | City of Thousand Oaks
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Conejo Open Space Conservation Agency Meeting - 2/9/22
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A
F
F
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
time
to
present
to
you
some
information
regarding
resident
attitudes
on
fire
protection,
which
is
a
critical
issue
to
everyone
in
our
city.
Protection
of
our
open
space
has
long
been
the
top
priority
of
our
citizens,
but
some
changes
have
recently
occurred,
mainly
devastating
damage
caused
by
uncontrollable
wildfires.
F
We
wanted
to
determine
if
the
recent
wildfires
and
the
promise
of
future
wildfires
may
have
changed
citizen
attitudes
on
how
we
protect
our
open
space,
for
example,
questions
like.
Should
we
rely
on
nature
to
make
all
the
decisions?
Do
we
have
a
responsibility
to
protect
our
open
space
itself
from
the
devastating
effects
of
wildfires?
F
Should
we
do
more
to
protect
our
wildlife
population
from
these
devastating
wildfires?
Should
we
assist
our
residents
to
harden
their
homes
against
the
threat
of
these
wildfires,
and
one
thing
in
particular:
should
the
ventura
county
fire
department
work
with
costco
to
develop
a
joint
plan
that
would
mitigate
the
total
devastation
of
these
runaway
wildfires
attitude?
Polling
is
an
expensive
task
because
it
requires
professionals
to
properly
design
and
conduct
the
polling
to
get
at
the
heart
of
what
residents
tell
us
what
our
priorities
should
be
through
a
grant
from
the
national
association
of
realtors.
F
We
engaged
a
national
professional
polling
company
american
strategies,
headquartered
in
washington,
d.c
to
design
and
conduct
an
over
400
person
survey
of
thousand
oaks
residents
concerning
their
specific
priorities
regarding
wildfire
safety.
We
are
here
to
share
that
information
with
you
as
an
adjunct
to
your
well
done
surveys,
you
may
use
it
in
any
way.
You
wish.
We
hope
it
provides
some
deeper
insight
into
the
attitudes
that
thousand
oaks
residents
have
about.
This.
Excuse
me
about
this
mini
faceted
problem.
F
A
more
detailed
version
of
this
information
was
already
shared
with
you,
so
I
will
make
not
make
you
sit
through
a
presentation
of
something
you
have
already
read,
perhaps
to
efficiently
utilize
the
remainder
of
this
time
that
you
have
allowed
me.
I
would
like
to
use
a
short
powerpoint
presentation
to
show
you
the
main
points
of
our
presentation.
F
This
is
just
from
the
company
that
had
processed
the
information
that
we
were
suggesting
be
polled.
Wildfires
issues
are
actually
now
the
top
voters.
Priorities
for
local
government.
Preserving
and
protecting
open
land
follows
close
behind.
Historically
polling
has
indicated
that
residents
of
thousand
oaks
place
a
very
high
value
on
the
ring
of
open
space
that
surrounds
our
city.
As
stewards
of
our
open
space,
costco
has
done
an
excellent
job,
protecting
our
open
space
as
realtors.
F
F
These
wildfires
destroyed
some
homes
and
actually
destroyed
the
open
space
itself,
realtors
funded
polling
by
a
respected
national
polling
company
to
measure
whether
priorities
may
have
shifted.
We
are
presenting
the
results
of
that
polling
for
your
consideration
and
perhaps
future
guidance
here
is
the
executive
summary
of
the
main
points.
Protecting
homes
from
wildfires
tops
the
voters,
priorities
for
thousand
oaks
city
government,
reducing
the
intensity
of
wildfires,
ranked
second,
closely
followed
by
preserving
and
protecting
open
space.
F
F
94
of
the
voters
that
we
quote
pulled
support
along
the
ventura
county
fire
department
to
remove
some
brush
and
dead
plants
from
the
canal
valley,
open
space
area,
74
strongly
favored
it
and
94
overall
favored
it
most
voters
say
both
the
city,
government
and
individual
homeowners
will
have
to
take
individual
and
additional
steps
to
reduce
wildfire
intensity.
They
say
we
need
to
harden
homes
against
wildfires,
as
well
as
manage
our
open
space
to
guard
against
runaway
wildfires.
F
F
F
Obviously
not
everybody
totally
agrees,
but
we
wanted
you
to
have
this
information
more
than
three-fourths
of
the
voters,
favor
extending
the
brush
removal
to
200
feet
around
a
home,
that's
probably
up
to
the
fire
department
rather
than
costco,
but
it's
an
important
issue.
It
just
shows
that
they're
ready
to
actually
clear
more
of
their
own
space.
F
A
F
A
A
C
A
A
H
H
C
H
A
A
G
H
G
H
G
G
Yeah,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
kind
of
obligated
to
have
to
meet
remotely
that
this
enables
us
to
meet
remotely
or
if
we
choose
to
be
in
a
hybrid
fashion,
where
you
know,
as
has
been
done,
either
board
members
and
or
the
public
come
to
a
meeting
room
and
some
board
members
or
some
public
are
meeting
remotely
is.
Is
that
still
an
option.
H
A
H
G
G
A
B
B
Hybrid
meetings
put
a
slightly
different
challenge
on
us
only
because
our
normal
boardroom
doesn't
have
the
technology
enabled
in
it
to
do
that,
so
we
would
have
to
move
over
to
a
different
city
facility.
So
that's
why
we've
kind
of
looked
at
either
going
online
or
or
going
back
in
person.
I
think
all
the
you
know
all
the
arrows
are
pointed
at
a
return
to
in-person
meetings
as
soon
as
possible.
A
We
we
too
would
like
to
go
back
to
in-person
meetings,
but
there's
people
love
it
that
they
don't
have
to
drive
hither
and
on
to
get
to
a
meeting
and
they
can
be
in
their
comfort
of
their
home
to
and
be
able
to
participate
and
we've
got
plenty
of
public
testimony.
In
fact,
we
actually
have
spanish
translation
for
our
conservancy
and
mrca
meetings,
so
there
is
ample
public
participation,
but
I
hear
your
concern
we
do.
A
G
Would
thank
you,
chair
chairsuke.
I
appreciate
that,
especially
with
some
of
the
organizations
you're
with
which
has
such
a
regional
reach.
It
is
truly
a
benefit,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
that,
and
I
know
many
folks
have
taken
advantage
of
that,
whether
it's
our
daily
meetings
or
or
public
meetings,
but
I
would,
I
would
still
like
to
make
sure
that
we,
you
know,
don't
lock
us
into
only
going
virtual.
G
G
B
That's
how
we
made
the
call
on
this
one
we
had
we
booked
the
you
know
we
set
up
the
meeting
formats
weeks
in
advance,
and
so
that
was
based
on
what
conditions
might
have
been
like.
You
know
two
three
weeks
ago,
because
that's
the
build-up
time
for
an
event.
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
city's
plans
are,
but
that's
where
we
are
now.
G
Yeah-
and
I
appreciate
that-
that's
why
I
just
to
me
it's
a
matter
of
still
of
having
it
regardless
and
if
it's
not
city
hall,
then
maybe
it's
another
location.
It's
again
just
my
personal
view,
but
I
think
you
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point
go
ahead
and
continue
with
your
discussion.
I
think
chuck
had
a
question.
C
C
There
was
a
way
of
doing
it
remotely,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
hoops
that
you
had
to
jump
through
and
that
any
public
comment
had
to
be
in
person
and
even
if
the
city
or
the
costco
decides
that
it's
safe
to
go
back
to
in-person
meetings,
there
may
be
individual
members
of
the
public,
whether
for
convenience
or
health
concerns
or
whatever
it
might
be.
There
may
be
individual
members
of
the
board
for
convenience
and
or
health
concerns
that
would
want
to
participate
remotely.
H
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
briefly
respond
on
that,
I
think
for
the
most
part
that
that's
correct
and
then
historically,
you
had
to
show
up
in
a
meeting
to
to
participate
yeah.
I
would
say
that
that
though
the
law
on
the
on
the
brown
act
and
remote
meetings
and
remote
participation
is
evolving,
and
I
would
venture
to
guess
that
over
the
next
couple
years,
you're
going
to
see
more
options
for
participation
remotely
both
by
the
public
and
and
by
board
members
in
the
world.
H
F
H
A
Mr
duran
may
I
ask
so
absent
the
executive
orders
and
on
the
emergency
resolutions,
etc.
If,
if
people,
if
board
members
wanted
to
participate
remotely
in
the
future,
they
would
still
have
to
be
in
a
place
that
the
public
can
access,
so
they
wouldn't.
The
agenda
notice
have
to
indicate
each
location,
so
it's
either
either
board
members
would
invite
people
into
their
home
or
go
to
another
public
space
and
participate
from
that
space.
H
Yeah
there's
some
uncomfortable
requirements
to
participate
remotely
under
the
the
current
brown
act
and
you're
right.
You
need
to
you
need
to
identify
who's
going
to
be
remote
and
the
location
and
then
that
location
needs
to
be
posted
with
a
notice,
and
you
need
to
allow
the
ability
to
participate
from
that
location.
So
you
know
you
can
do
it.
It's
just
really
difficult
and
a
lot
of
local
officials.
You
don't
want
to
jump
through
all
those
hoops
to
participate,
and
again
I
mean
I,
I
think,
over
the
next
couple
years.
I
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
hybrid
program
is
really
wonderful
and
the
sure
forum
is
really
well
equipped
to
handle
that,
because
it
is
quite
a
technical
undertaking
to
be
able
to
do
in
person
as
well
as
zoom,
and
have
comments
public
comments
or
other
members
of
the
board
participate
from
other
locations.
I
So
not
sure
if
the
boardroom
is
equipped
to
handle
that,
but
it
is,
it
is
doable.
It
is
challenging
to
to
do
that.
I'm
not
sure
if
maybe
the
park
district
does
that
as
well
a
hybrid
program,
I'm
my
apologies.
If
I
missed
that
at
the
beginning
of
chair
nichols's
comments,
but
certainly
that
is
something
that
I
believe
will
probably
be
the
wave
of
the
future.
I
If,
if
not
sooner
than
that,
so
I
think
just
for
agenda's
sake.
We
would
go
ahead
and
approve
item
6a,
but
with
the
the
the
knowledge
that
city
hall
will
probably
be
as
masks
will
now
probably
not
be
mandated
anymore
on.
The
16th
will
be
back
opened
to
residents,
if
not
later
this
month,
certainly
at
the
beginning
of
next
month.
So
and
then
we
can
look
at
hybrid
versions
of
the
the
costco
meeting.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you,
and
that
was
amazing.
A
G
I
I
I
think
mr
nichols,
the
the
intent
really
is
to
have
habit
hybrid,
as
we
did
last
year.
When
I
was
mayor,
we
had
a
hybrid
council
meeting.
The
sure
form
is
equipped
to
handle
that
the
board
room
may
still
need
to
be.
I'm
not
sure
the
boardroom
that
we
normally
meet
in
can
handle
that,
but
certainly
as
the
mask
mandate
is
being
lifted,
and
we
will
slowly
come
back
to
city
hall
and
have
in-person
council
meetings
and
hybrid
will
continue,
at
least
in
the
sure
form.
Perhaps
that
is
of
a
consolation.
I
I
don't
know
what
sort
of
technical
investment
we
would
need
for
the
boardroom
to
handle.
All
of
that,
if
you
know
if
the
ipads
that
the
council
has
can
be
shared
with
koska,
I
I
don't
know
how
that
works.
So
I
really
cannot
guarantee
I'm
just
explaining
as
to
what
we
could
do
and
what
will
happen
at
city
hall
in
the
sure
forum.
That's
really
all
I
can
say
right
now.
G
I
G
A
J
A
I
C
A
A
D
A
H
H
However,
that's
not
the
case
for
secretary
and
historically,
mr
friedel
has
been
the
secretary,
but
he's
also
the
co-administrative
officer
for
the
agency
and
as
we
move
forward
with
management
of
property,
there's
there's
understanding
that
that
we'll
probably
have
to
enter
into
more
agreements
and
and
he
will
be
signing
some
of
those
in
his
title
as
the
administrator
and
so
we're
looking
to
maybe
have
a
different
secretary.
Who
would
then
approve
his
signature
or
the
city
manager's
signature,
because
that
individual
is
also
a
tow
administrator.
C
A
A
G
B
I
H
Yes,
the
the
original
jpa
outlined
the
ex-officio
officers,
the
city
attorney
and
the
treasurer,
for
whatever
reason
the
the
position
of
secretary
wasn't
linked
to
another
officer.
It
was
just
whoever
was
appointed
by
the
board.
The
only
caveat
in
the
jpa
is
that
it
could
but
didn't
have
to
be
a
member
of
the
board.
I
H
A
I
A
C
C
C
This
is
primarily
attributed
to
land
additions
of
2.1
million
program
expenses,
increased
0.3
million
compared
to
prior
fiscal
year,
primarily
due
to
a
one-time
land
donation
of
425
000,
mil
425
000
to
crpt
crpd.
If
you
recall,
this
is
the
transfer
of
the
equestrian
center
costco
ended
with
10.5
million
in
cash
and
investments
which
are
held
for
future
open
space
acquisitions
and
maintenance.
This
is
an
increase
of
0.2
million
compared
to
prior
fiscal
year,
primarily
due
to
rental
revenue
and
interest
income
capital
assets
increased
1.7
million
for
an
ending
balance
of
76.7
million.
C
B
A
E
Thank
you
brian
good
evening,
chair
skay
and
members
of
the
board.
As
you
can
see,
I
have
a
brief
powerpoint
sage.
Mountain
senior
living
is
located
at
3499
grande
vista
drive.
The
conditions
in
an
associated
development
permit
required
that
about
34
acres
of
the
original
parcel
be
transferred
to
costco
for
present.
Take
for
excuse.
G
E
The
open
space
partial,
which
is
parcel
a
here
on
this
map,
is
located
on
a
rugged
trailless
south
facing
slope
west
of
the
sage
mountain
parcel,
which
is
parcel
b,
parcel
a
abuts
existing
costco
open
space
to
the
north,
which
is
similarly
rugged
and
trailless
because
of
these
characteristics,
access
to
parcel
a
is
most
convenient
across
parcel
b.
This
was
recognized
during
the
development's
approval
and
an
additional
project
condition
required
that
sage.
E
In
conclusion,
parcel
a
is
a
valuable
addition
to
the
canelo
canyons
area,
its
acquisition,
preserves
native
coastal
sage
scrub,
habitat
areas
and
further
completes
the
city's
ring
of
green.
Now
that
parcel
numbers
have
been
assigned
accepting
the
easement
described
above
will
facilitate
convenient
access
to
inspect
and
maintain
this
additional
area
of
open
space,
and
with
that
I'm
available
for
questions.
G
G
G
Okay,
so
am
I
can.
I
conclude,
then,
that
there
are
no
trails
on
this
parcel,
correct,
okay
and
then.
Secondly,
I
didn't
see
it
in
our
packet,
but
now
that
you've
started
the
video
in
the
presentation,
I
see
that
is
parcel
b.
Even
all
the
apparent
open
space
on
the
northern
end
to
remain
under
the
ownership
of
the
developer.
G
E
G
A
A
E
Some
surveys-
that's
that's
correct,
chersky,
just
simply
for
monitoring
that
is
the
most
across
sage
mountain
that
is
the
most
convenient
access
area
to
that
air
to
that
portion
of
the
new
open
space
and
planning
staff
recognized
that
at
the
time
the
permits
for
this
particular
project
were
being
processed
and
approved.
So
we're
just
sort
of
finishing
that
last
little
part
of
remaining
business.
G
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
it
did
prompt
one
more
question.
I
know
it
is
possible
to
get
up
to
the
top
of
that
that
mountain
there
above
the
way
station
from
the
backside,
and
I
would
imagine
it
could
be
a
very
attractive
approach
for
someone
to
get
to
the
top
and
decide
that
they
wanted
to
get
back
down
towards
this
very
point.
B
E
Yes,
thank
you,
and
so
that
photo
is
of
myself
with
that,
I'm
with
the
big
straw
hat
and
a
representative
from
a
survey
company
and
I
are
checking
all
the
monument
markers
and
this
picture
was
taken
kind
of
near
the
top
of
the
ridge
line.
And,
yes,
it
is
possible
to
get
up
to
the
top
of
the
ridge
line
from
the
north
side
of
the
slope,
but
for
anyone
that
would
contemplate
coming
down
the
south
facing
slope,
I
think
that
they
would
see
very
quickly
that
they
should
that
going
back.
E
G
Yeah,
I
think
I
just
you
know
knowing
hikers
as
I
do,
I'm
one
of
them
as
we
know,
there's
always
that
urge
to
go
where
no
one
else
has
gone
before,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
weren't
introducing
a
situation
where
it
may
be
troublesome.
But
thank
you.
It
looks
like
you've
already
thought
that
through
so
thank
you.
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
asking
and
that's
a
very
important
concern.
The
slopes
are
really
quite
steep
and
we
don't
anticipate
developing
any
trails
on
this
side
because
of
that,
and
and
also
because
of
that,
it's
it's
while
the
retirement
facility
has
an
assortment
of
recreational
activity
for
its
residents.
A
A
C
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board.
The
item
before
the
board
tonight
is
adoption
of
a
resolution
accepting
the
transfer
of
23,
open
space
parcels,
totaling,
566
acres
from
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
to
costco
for
long-term
management
and
to
authorize
the
chief
administrative
officer
to
execute
any
and
all
documents
necessary
to
accept
the
property
and
authorize
staff
to
record
the
accepted
deeds
of
a
short
powerpoint
show.
For
you.
B
So
the
open
space
throughout
our
the
canelo
valley
can
be
owned
by
several
different
agencies.
The
city
and
thousand
oaks
costco
and
crpd
have
all
acquired
open
space
lands.
The
joint
powers
agreement
that
created
koska
anticipates
the
consolidation
of
ownership
under
costco
for
the
long-term
consistent
management.
B
These
are
spread
out
throughout
the
community,
and
so
the
open
space
areas
reflected
are
shown
here.
The
process
by
which
we
do
this
is
we
identify
the
property,
the
open
space
properties,
the
owner,
the
city
still
owns.
We
research
each
partial
parcel
to
confirm
the
intent
of
its
transfer
for
open
space.
B
We
also
review
the
you
know
the
open
space
values
on
that
property
and
also
to
look
for
items
like
if
it's
you
know
all
in
a
fuel
modification
zone
or
if
there's
municipal
infrastructure
on
it.
Some
of
these
parcels
are
still
left
in
the
city's
ownership
and
sometimes
we'll
run
into
a
zoning
inconsistency,
and
so
we
route
those
over
to
planning
to
get
those
updated,
and
we
also
talk
with
the
department
of
public
works
at
the
city.
Just
in
case
there
is
any
mutual
infrastructure.
B
I
kind
of
talked
about
some
of
the
stuff.
We
avoid
accepting
properties
that
have
the
drainage
structures.
All
this
property
is
already
being
managed
by
costco
now,
so
it
doesn't
really
increase
the
amount
of
work
we're
doing
it.
It's
just
now
we're
we're
fully
vested
here.
The
maps
have
been
kind
of
showing
along
the
way,
and
if
you
have
questions
about
those,
this
one
here
is
the
hillcrest
area,
so
that
this
is
the
yeah.
The
intersection
of
north
carolina,
school
and
hillcrest.
Here.
B
C
I
B
The
the
reasoning
behind
it-
I
guess
the
reasoning
behind
it-
is
that
the
land
ownership
for
the
open
space
system
should
be
consolidated
and
uniform
across
the
open
space
system
and
having
one
agency
provide.
That
management
is
the
best
way
to
get
consistent
management
applied
to
all
the
properties
and
that's
the
rationale
that
was
described
in
the
joint
powers
agreement
they
created
costco,
so
we're
following
up
on
on
that
direction.
B
And
the
the
two
rounds
we're
working
tonight
will
mostly
complete
transfer
of
city-owned
open
spaces
and
as
the
city
you
know,
we
acquire
property,
sometimes
through
the
development
process.
So
if
new
ones
come
up,
you
know
we
just
do
those
at
the
time
that
that
they
come
up
so
these
you
know,
weren't
always
done
right
when
that
action
happened,
so
we're
playing
a
little
catch
up.
There's
there's
one
large
parcel
of
about
450
acres
that
is
still
in
sea
ownership
for
now,
and
it's
a
large
parcel
down
in
hill
canyon.
B
So
it
has
the
access
road
to
a
treatment
plant
and
there's
also
municipal
infrastructure
concerns
and
future
plans
for
municipal
infrastructure.
So
we've
held
that
one
back.
While
we
work
more
closely
with
the
public
works
department
and
the
city
departments
to
ensure
that
that
you
know,
if
we
determine
the
transferring
it
makes
sense
that
that
all
parties
can,
you
know,
effectively
manage
their
needs
on
that
property.
So
it's
a
little
more
complicated.
B
It's
really
just
a
function
of
generally
accepted
accounting
practices,
so
it's
the
gap,
accounting
that
that
yields
that
the
actual
value
I
mean
it
could
be
determined
in
any
number
of
ways
if
we
purchase
it,
if
that's
usually
the
purchase
price,
if
it's
you
know
donated,
there
might
be
an
appraisal
for
part
of
that.
If
it's
dedicated
as
part
of
development,
you
know
they
may
use
you
know
a
tax-based
number.
So
it's
really
just
about
capturing
that
number
and
that
point
in
time.
C
B
C
A
C
B
We
might
might
always
not
quite
understand
how
accountants
work,
but
we
we
own
the
property,
and
so
the
only
way
that
property
gets
into
our
financial
system
is
by
assigning
it
a
value
and
carrying
it
as
a
capital
asset.
So
if
we
could
bring
all
the
land
and
into
the
finance
department
office,
since
we
can't
do
that,
we
we
put
numbers
on
it.
B
B
This
area
is,
I
think
we
do
own
some
of
this.
We
own
this
one
I
believe
up
here,
this
one's
kind
of
an
oddball,
because
we
don't
own
anything
else
in
this
area.
This
was
just
a
requirement
of
this
development.
It's
just
we're
kind
of
spur
of
the
city's
influence
over
here
we
own
this
adjacent
property
here
off
the
sunset
hills
areas.
This
one
is
adjacent
too.
G
G
B
B
Most
of
these
are
adjacent
to
areas
where
you
know
some
parcels
were
transferred
there.
We've
cost
has
done
these
transfers
over
the
years
a
number
of
times,
and
so
sometimes
they
they
were
happening
in
smaller
groups.
The
only
thing
we're
doing
here
is
just
putting
them
in
bigger
groups,
and
you
know
trying
to
wrap
up
this
process,
so
we
can
move
on
to
other
other
projects.
G
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
it
looks
like
in
from
what
you've
described
then
that
all
these
parcels
are
adjacent
to
current
open
space,
except
for
like
a
hill
canyon,
because
that's
still
being
retained
by
the
city
and
the
one
off
of
reed
road.
So
I
have
a
question
for
you,
then,
mr
stark.
If
this
parcel,
which
is
592-0-250-125.
G
E
B
G
G
Okay,
all
right,
it's
to
me,
it's
just
a
little
little
bit
isolated,
but
I
can
see
if
you,
if
there's
a
piece
across
the
development,
is
included
and-
and
we
have
some
responsibility
there-
I
can
kind
of
make
that.
But
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we're
picking
up
some
isolated
pieces
that
were
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
to
manage.
But
I
can
see
that
work.
So
thank
you.
A
B
A
A
A
B
Yes,
so
so
this
item
is
the
adoption
of
a
resolution
accepting
17
open
space
parcels,
totaling,
373
acres
from
the
city
for
long-term
management
and
to
authorize
the
chief
administrative
officer
to
execute
all
documents
necessary
to
accept
the
properties
and
authorize
staff
to
record
those.
I
will
show
some
slides
here
too.
B
So
similar,
this
is
a
very
similar
item
to
the
one
you
just
had,
so
I
won't
recapitulate
every
part
of
this
staff
report.
These
were
placed
in
a
separate
resolution
for
a
couple
reasons.
One
is
for
record
keeping
purposes
the
city's
approval
to
trans
to
transfer.
These
was
done
a
long
time
ago
in
2008.
B
B
These
are
all
parcels.
I'll
show
a
few
a
few
maps
there's
fewer
maps
on
this
one,
but
the
region
you're
looking
at
on
this
slide,
is
the
western
plateau
area.
So
the
parcels
you're
going
to
see
tonight
were
all
approved
for
transfer
to
costco
in
the
western
plateau
protection
plan,
which
was
approved
by
the
city
council
in
2008,
and
this
involved
trading
land
and
some
development
rights
around
with
other.
B
B
B
G
Thank
you.
This
is
kind
of
follow
up
to
the
director
bill,
dela
pena's
question
earlier
about.
You
know
why
transfer
from
city
to
the
tokasuka
it
when
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
previous
item
as
well
as
this
one,
when
these
parcels
were
identified
in
the
development
process
or
whatever
the
transaction
was,
were
they
specifically
identified
to
be
ultimately
handed
to
koska,
or
was
it
just
to
be
held
as
open
space
and
the
city
may
or
may
not?
B
B
When
the
the
city
works
on
it
on
a
track
map,
for
instance,
you
know
they'll
identify
the
open
space
in
a
lot
of
those
cases.
That's
a
that's
a
city
action,
it's
been
mixed
depend.
You
know
over
time
the
city's
done
this
in
different
ways.
They've,
you
know,
taken
the
property
to
the
city
and
then
transferred
to
costco.
There
have
been
situations
where
they've
put
in
the
track
map
that
the
property
comes
directly
to
costco.
B
B
So
there
were
delays
in
how
when
these
transfers
happen,
because
the
developers
were
developing,
but
then
they
actually
had
to
go,
do
some
restoration
on
these
properties.
So
that's
temporarily,
why?
Some
of
them
take
longer
than
others
and
why
the
city
had
the
city
has
the
requirement
and
the
hold
over
the
developer
on
those
costco
doesn't
have
leverage
at
that
point.
So
the
city
may
retain
that
property
to
ensure
that
all
the
conditions
of
approval
have
been
met
on
that
property
prior
to
a
transfer.
So.
G
B
Might
also
just
add
that
costco
also,
we
do
buy
property
and,
depending
on
the
funding
source,
when
we
use
city
money
like
in
the
costco
trust
fund,
when
those
funds
are
used,
then
the
city
for
their
accounting
purpose.
That
land
goes
into
the
city.
You
know
prior
to
coming
to
costco,
so
there's
another
reason
why
it
would
go
to
the
city
and
then
to
costco.
Okay,
all
right.
I
I
It
gives
me
traumatic,
stress,
very
rough
period,
but
you
know
what
it
is
all
ending
with
a
good
in
a
good
cause.
The
only
thing
that
I
lament
coming
out
of
this
western
plateau
agreement
is
that
the
senior
units
I
believe
they
were
supposed
to
be
50
units,
maybe
80
units-
I
don't
recall
the
exact
number
that
were
to
be
built
as
a
result
of
the
agreement
and
that
never
materialized.
I
So
that
is
the
thing
that
I
regret,
really
never
happened.
Out
of
this,
the
the
units
went
away
and
nonetheless,
you
know
here
we
are
struggling
with
affordable
housing,
senior
housing
and
so
forth.
But
tonight
certainly
I
would
like
to
move
to
prove
the
staff
recommendation
and
that
we
will
add
this
to
the
costco
inventory.
I
So
that
was
just
a
little
bit
of
background
information,
because
I
saw
my
name
on
there
and
the
staff
report
thing
here
and
there
and
so
yeah
that
that
was
one
of
the
the
times
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks.
That
probably
nobody
was
very
proud
of
necessarily,
but
we
are
expanding
our
open
space
and
ring
of
green
around
the
city
and
and
that's
a
good
thing.
D
A
A
B
B
B
Leasing,
commercial
industrial
space
cannot
be
accommodating
costco's
budget,
as
the
costs
are
estimated.
You
want
to
range
between
130
and
180
000
a
year
during
our
process
of
working
with
the
city.
The
cameron
center
was
identified
as
having
the
attributes
needed
for
acoska
field
operations
and
in
discussions
with
the
city's
facilities
departments
determined
that
the
facility
was
was
not
being
heavily
used.
So
one
might
consider
slightly
underutilized
over
there.
B
A
proposal
was
made
to
the
city
and
we
brought
that
to
the
city's
capital
facilities
committee,
where
it
received
a
positive
response.
The
committee
recommended
additional
outreach
to
current
users
and
neighbors,
and
after
that
outreach
was
conducted
by
the
city
to
groups
that
had
been
utilizing
the
facility
to
assist
in
finding
alternative
meeting
places.
B
So
for
lease
terms,
costco
will
pay
the
city
a
dollar
a
year
and
assume
most
of
the
facility
maintenance
expenses,
including
things
like
interior
paint,
landscaping,
utilities
and
security.
So
the
city's
costs
on
the
on
the
center
drop
and
koska
picks
some
of
those
up,
not
necessarily
in
equal
measures,
because
we
require
some
different
things
out
there.
B
Costco's
office
expenses
at
the
facility
are
anticipated
to
be
approximately
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
they'll
be
a
one-time
conversion
cost
to
get
it
set
up
for
offices.
It
was
estimated
at
100
000.
since
that
time
we've
actually
been
able
to
accomplish
some
of
this
stuff
at
a
much
reduced
cost.
So
it's
likely
that
those
costs
might
might
drop
a
little.
B
What's
really
most
exciting.
For
me,
I
think,
for
all
of
us
here
at
cost
is
our
our
rangers
do
some
of
the
hardest
work
in
the
canelo
valley
to
take
care
of
all
this
open
space,
and
you
know,
and
they
they've
earned
a
nice
new
office
space
and
while
it's
not
the
newest
building
in
town,
it's
a
great
improvement.
We're
looking
forward
to
it.
Establishing
a
central
headquarters
for
costco
is
really.
I
see
it
as
an
evolution
in
costco's
organizational
development,
as
well
as
a
boon
to
the
community
open
space
management.
B
B
Staff
recommends
authoring,
koska's
administrative
officer
to
execute
the
lease
for
costco's
new
ranger
headquarters,
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
and-
and
we
also
have
matt
kuba
and
tom
here-
were
instrumental
in
putting
this
together.
So
I
don't
know
if
they
had
anything
to
add,
but
we're
happy
to
take
questions.
J
G
The
rangers,
obviously
in
their
current
location,
was
less
than
desirable
for
storage,
let
alone
for
office,
and
so
this
would
be
a
great
improvement
and
certainly
with
the
additional
staff
that
we
have
have
or
will
be
bringing
on
board
with
with
new
rangers
with
the
new
supervising
ranger.
I
think
this
would
be
a
great
step
and
looking
forward
to
major
accomplishments.
I
know
mr
stark
will
be
giving
us
lots
of
reports
and
all
the
great
things
we're
completing
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
G
One
thing
I
might
add
just
for
our
city
council
colleagues,
is
the
park
district
held
a
staff
health
laws,
our
board
meeting
there,
the
cameron
center
last
month-
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
you're
made
aware
of
this
or
not,
but
in
the
you
know,
midst
of
our
meeting
one
of
the
neighbors
came
running
over
to
the
meeting.
You
know
practically
busting
through
the
door
and
said:
oh,
my
am
I
too
late.
G
I'd
want
to
just
make
a
comment,
and
she
she
was
afraid
that
that
the
costco
approval
of
use
of
that
building
was
not
going
to
be
approved,
and
she
didn't
realize
that
she
was
talking
to
the
park
district
in
that
costume.
She
was
expressing
how
much
she
was
going
to
be
appreciating
having
the
koska
rangers
there,
because
of
all
the
challenges
that
the
neighbors
have
been
experiencing
with
the
folks,
the
transients
in
that
neighborhood.
G
It's
always
a
challenge
to
make
sure
that
our
next
door
neighbors
are
satisfied
or
happy
or
in
agreement
with
the
efforts
that
we're
making.
So
I
was
thrilled
to
hear
that
so
I'd
be
happy
to
support
that
fact
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
to
authorize
execution
of
the
lease,
as
recommended
by
staff.
C
And
so
this
there
were
two
things
we
voted
on
in
september
of
64..
One
was
whether
or
not
to
have
a
city,
and
the
other
was
whether
to
call
a
thousand
oaks
or
call
it
canelo
valley,
so
thousand
oaks,
obviously,
and
the
city
both
passed,
and
I
was
so
happy
that
we
named
this
building
for
bruce
cameron.
C
And
my
first
reaction
was,
you
know
now.
The
public
can't
use
it
for
general
meetings
as
they
have
been,
and
maybe
that
would
lessen
the
knowledge
of
bruce.
But
I
began
to
think
that
nobody
really
knows
that
anymore.
Probably
so,
I'd
be
in
favor
of
the
motion
because
of
the
fact
that
I
think
that
would
be
making
a
wonderful
contribution
to
kaska
and
the
rangers
also
because
the
neighbors
all
seem
to
be
in
favor
of
it,
which
I
think
is.
C
We
don't
always
get
that
when
we
make
a
landing's
decision
that-
and
I'm
you
know
very
happy
about
that.
I
might.
I
might
just
suggest
that
in
the
publicity,
if
we're
getting
some
publicity
about
this-
that
we
might
get
some
recognition
of
bruce
cameron
in
that
not
only
did
he
was
the
author
of
the
city.
C
Oaks
now
something
that
has
been
named
for
him
is
going
to
be
used
for
a
very
fine
purpose,
and
I
don't
know
how
we
do
we
get
that
out.
I
guess
we
could
persuade
the
acorn
newspaper
perhaps
to
print
something
to
that
effect,
but
maybe
we
could
put.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
recognition
on
the
building
is
the
is
the
bruce
cameron's
name
anywhere
on
the
building.
C
C
I
I
I
just
wanted
to
thank
brian
stark
for
holding
the
community
meeting
that
thursday.
I
know
there
were
a
couple
of
residents
that
were
concerned,
but
he
took
care
of
everything
and
convinced
everyone
who
had
some
doubts
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
very
good
proposal
and
a
very
good
idea-
and
indeed
it
is
so
I'd-
be
happy
to
support
this.
So
thank
you,
brian,
oh,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
you
did
offer
to
add
screening,
for
example,
for
for
some
of
the
residents.
They
are
correct,
so.
B
We
did
we,
we
met
with
the
about
20
of
our
neighbors,
came
over
to
a
sort
of
an
open
house
and
crpd
staff
and
city
staff.
Were
there
too,
and
we
were
able
to
walk
people
through,
and
we
could
look.
You
know
we're
on
site.
We
can
look
at.
Most
of
this
was
about
visual
screening
from
the
building,
so
we'll
be
working
with
three
adjacent
landowners
on
some
landscaping
work
there
that
that
should
improve
their
view
and
their
privacy,
and
they
will
beautify
our
cameron
center.
A
A
E
Okay,
thank
you,
chairskay,
and
I
have
another
brief
powerpoint
for
you
all.
At
our
last
meeting,
staff
presented
the
extent
of
undeveloped
lands
that
had
been
preserved
as
open
space
for
the
2021
calendar
year
as
a
follow-up
to
that
we're
presenting
costco's,
updated
open
space
acquisition
priorities
to
you
this
evening.
E
A
quick
summary
priority
acquisition
parcels
are
classified
into
three
broad
priority
groups,
as
initially
described
when
costco's
first
open
space
priority
list
was
created
in
1996
and
to
summarize
quickly
the
priority.
One
category
includes
areas
with
important
open
space
resources
that
are
not
likely
to
be
adequately
protected
through
the
development
review
process.
E
The
priority
two
category
includes
areas
with
important
resources,
but
the
parcels
may
be
comparatively
expensive
due
to
approved
or
recorded
track
maps
adopted,
specific
plans
or
easily
developable
terrain
or
because
the
resources
they
support
are
likely
to
be
protected
through
the
development
review
process
and
sorry
brian.
Could
you
put
your
mic
on
mute
because
I'm
getting
it?
E
So
the
updated
acquisition
map
consists
of
16
areas
which
total
approximately
1481
acres.
Five
areas
are
classified
as
priority.
One
nine
areas
are
classified
as
priority.
Two
and
two
areas
are
classified
as
priority.
Three,
these
classifications
were
derived
by
utilizing
costco's
property
evaluation
criteria
to
rank
the
parcels
according
to
current
site
characteristics
and
those
evaluation
scores
priority
rankings
for
each
area
and
the
property
evaluation
criteria
are
all
presented
as
attachments
2,
3
and
4
in
the
associated
staff
report
in
the
agenda
packet.
E
There's
a
lot
of
detail
in
that,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
it
here,
but
hopefully
you've
all
had
a
chance
to
have
a
look
at
that
and
then
just
some
more
kind
of
fun,
summary
and
background
information.
Koska
acquires
open
space
through
a
variety
of
methods,
including
dedications,
required
by
development
conditions,
donations,
fee
purchases
from
individuals
and
organizations,
tax,
sale,
purchases
from
ventura,
county
and
specific
plan,
land
use
designations
for
land
to
be
acquired
as
open
space.
E
E
So
in
conclusion-
and
this
item
is
just
a
receive
and
file
for
you
all-
this
priority
list
of
potential
acquisition
areas
provides
a
framework
for
open
space
acquisition
efforts
in
the
canao
valley
and
helps
evaluate
whether
proposed
open
space
purchases
merit
the
allocation
of
limited
financial
resources,
and
with
that
I'm
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
G
G
E
E
By
koska,
I'm
sorry
that
fight
directly
by
koska
to
protect
the
parcel,
because
in
some
cases,
existing
resources
are
protected
with
the
planning
department's
assistance
through
the
development
review
and
application
an
approval
process
right
and
but
in
some
situations
that
may
not
occur.
So
when
that's
the
situation,
the
recommendation
is
direct
purchase.
G
G
E
Yes,
and
so
in
that
particular
area,
the
vast
majority
of
parcels
are
about
a
tenth
of
an
acre
in
size
and
they
are
also
not
located
within
the
city
they're
located
in
the
county.
So
if
an
owner
were
to
pursue
development,
putting
a
tiny
house
on
a
tiny
parcel,
it's
not
clear
that
the
open
space
in
that
immediate
location
would
be
protected.
There
would
not
necessarily
be
any
mechanism
for
that.
E
Correct
and
in
this
the
southern
ridge
area,
there
are
numerous
tiny
parcels,
many
of
them
actually
in
case
helpful,
are
sort
of
when
we
think
when
we
go
back
to
the
large
rasnow
donation.
That
you'll
recall
many
of
those
parcels
are
third-party
owners
within
the
larger
block
of
braz
now
donated
land.
G
A
B
All
right,
I'm
off
me
now
sorry
about
that.
I'm
chair
members
of
the
board.
This
is
just
a
verbal
report
and
an
update
on
costco
utilization
of
the
woolsey
fire
recovery
funds
as
you'll
recall
year
or
two
back.
I
know
it
seems
like
time
has
flown,
but
the
the
board
allocated
certain
sums
of
the
woolsey
fire
recovery
money
into
different
buckets,
we'll
call
them
into
different
funds
for
different
purposes.
B
B
B
They've
also
developed
training
materials
and
have
trained
10,
volunteer
home
ignition
zone
assessment
volunteers
and
have
even
gone
beyond
that,
because
these
home
these
home
ignition
zone
assessments
and
programs
are
happening
regionally.
So
the
resource
conservation
districts,
in
los
angeles
and
santa
monica
mountains
are
doing
these
two.
So
our
federation
council
work
closely
with
the
other
agencies
that
are
doing
this
to
standardize
procedures
regionally.
B
B
It's
been
really
helpful.
A
small
allocation
of
338
000
was
put
toward
equipment
services
and
administration
costs.
The
board
appropriated,
30
000
for
an
update
to
costco's
website.
Well,
it's
taking
a
little
bit
longer
than
anticipated
to
get
it
going.
We
do
anticipate
having
it
launched
within
the
month.
B
A
E
That's
the
story
of
my
life.
Okay:
here
we
go
all
right.
Thank
you.
Chair
skate
our
trail
watch
and
adopted
trail
volunteers
logged
the
following
hours
since
we
last
met
so
for
november
and
december
of
2021.
The
trail
watch
had
60
reports
and
86
hours
donated
and
adopted
trail
had
48
reports
and
119
hours
donated.
B
Thank
you
anna,
and
I
just
want
to
share
something.
I
think
it's
just
been
really
fun
that
I've
been
doing
here.
So
this
is
the
oak
park
high
school
wildfire
prevention
club
and
we
connected
with
their
club
president
prominently
featured
in
her
purple
hat
three
years
ago
to
start
acorn
planting
in
areas
of
lang
ranch
that
were
burned
in
the
woolsey
fire.
A
G
B
Well
because
well,
the
woolsey
fire
didn't
just
burn
a
thousand
oaks.
You
know
it
affected
the
neighborhoods
that
the
club
members
lived
in
and
they
wanted
to
do
some
projects
that
would
help
help
the
community
they
do
some
of
their
work
with
the
rancho
simi
park
and
rack
on
on
some
vegetation
work.
B
But
over
here
you
know
our
our
our
need.
When
we
were
talking
about
kind
of
the
universe
of
needs
over
here
in
our
burned
areas,
they
also
wanted
to
participate
in
bringing
life
back
to
some
of
these
areas.
So
we
were
able
to
find
some
places
that
really
needed
them
to
help
and
a
group
of
very
well
organized
and
enthusiastic
young
people
to
help.
A
D
So
that's
exciting
also
on
this
report
that
I'm
going
to
do
you
know
this
was
based
off
of
the
past
couple
months,
so
it's
a
little
different
than
our
recent
and
future
weather.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
of
course
we
got
a
lot
of
rain
really
quickly.
The
photo
on
the
left
is
one
of
our
parking
lots
like
not
exactly
sure
where,
but
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
rain
to
be
sitting
in
a
parking
lot.
D
If
you
look
at
the
photo
on
the
right,
that
is
looking
down
into
the
canyon-
and
that
is
the
reason
people
should
not
go
into
open
space
in
the
rain.
It's
extremely
dangerous.
It's
extremely
slippery,
it's
extremely
damaging
to
the
trails
and
stay
out
of
open
space
in
the
rain.
Hopefully
we
have
some
more
so
you
can
stay
out.
This
is
the
results
of
that.
These
are
the
blowout
bridges
I
constantly
talk
about
on.
D
The
left
is
the
evidence
of
what
it
looks
like
right
after
the
rain
and
then
that's
about
two
hours
later
after
ranger
nick
was
able
to
reestablish
those
blowout
bridges.
Keep
in
mind
that
all
that
plant
material
is
washed
down
a
lot
of
its
poison
oak.
So
when
you're
doing
the
bridges
you're
pretty
much
going
to
have
close
neck.
So
yes,
that's.
G
D
A
guarantee
all
right
next,
I
I'm
a
firm
believer
that,
in
order
to
deal
with
water,
that's
falling
from
the
sky,
you
need
to
be
smarter
than
the
water
and
that's
a
difficult
thing,
because
water
is
very
smart,
but
sometimes
we
do
have
to
put
in
a
physical
barricade
or
try
and
condense
it
into
a
certain
spot.
So
this
is
some
evidence
of
that
water
coming
off
and
we
were
trying
to
get
it
off.
They
were
trying
to
get
it
off
of
the
road
and
into
just
open
space.
D
So
after
the
rains
the
rangers
come
through
and
they
triage,
basically
all
the
trails
and
they'll
they'll
repair
ones
that
spots
that
they
can
immediately
other
spots.
They
caution,
tape
and
barricade
and
they'll
have
to
come
back
to
it
in
another
day.
So
there
is
a
huge
triage
that
goes
on
through
all
of
our
trails.
D
We
rely
on
the
volunteers
that
are
putting
in
trail
reports
and
and
just
the
general
public
calls
almost
immediately
hey,
there's
this
there's
a
tree
down
here,
tree
down
there
or
whatever,
and
so
the
rangers
get
on
it
pretty
quickly.
So
that's
really
what's
been
going
on.
This
is
a
big
washout
on
one
of
the
trails.
You
can
see
the
stakes
there
with
the
caution
tape.
D
D
This
is
a
huge
one
over
on
in
north
ranch,
and
this
one
just
ended
up
being
a
sinkhole.
We
used
our
gas
powered
wheelbarrows
brought
in
about
two
and
a
half
to
three
tons
of
rock
riprap
that
we
have
stockpiled
throughout
the
district
and
dropped
that
in
there
and
then
backfilled
it
with
dirt.
Okay,
slippery
roads
mean
crashes.
This
is
on
lynn
road
at
truro,
and
there
were
three
accidents
in
this
location
and
took
out
three
sections
of
fence.
D
D
So
hopefully
we
win
recently
on
social
media.
You
may
have
seen
the
large
cats
being
seen
in
ring
cameras
and
this
this
cat
actually
got
into
a
go
pen
and
ate
killed
four
goats.
It
has
since
moved
on
and,
of
course
this
is
concerning
that
you
live
in
an
area
where
there's
cats,
large
cats
and
the
neighbors
were
very
concerned,
and
the
the
thinking
is.
Okay,
the
cats
are
probably
not
in
our
neighborhoods
any
more
than
normal.
D
D
Keep
your
dogs
on
a
leash
and
keep
them
close
to
you,
keep
your
kids
close
to
you
and
don't
turn
over
rocks
or
anything
like
that,
because
these
guys
are
sitting
around
getting
warm
and
they're
coming
out
trying
to
feed.
There's
there's
food
moving
around
for
them
too.
So
start
like,
I
said,
there's
no
such
thing
as
rattlesnake
season.
How
does
it
get
an
open
space
now
this
one
was
funny
and
it
wasn't
too
hazardous.
They
took
one
of
our
signs
and
enhanced
it
a
little
bit.
D
It's
a
sign
that
normally
says
that
there's
coyote
activity
in
the
area-
and
we
will
put
that
up
if
there's
a
den
with
pups,
because
the
coyotes
will
protect
their
den
and
they
do
be
get
a
little
bit
touchy.
So
we'll
put
those
signs
up
if
we
know
there's
a
den
in
the
area
so
that
people
are
aware
of
it,
but
somebody
came
and
enhanced
it
with
this
direct
giraffe
activity
in
the
area
and
of
course
I
like
that
sense
of
humor.
D
G
And
mr
coopa,
thank
you
for
the
report.
I
noticed
you
did
give
us
a
couple
of
pictures
of
trail
issues
following
the
rains
other
than
a
lot
of
water
and
what
you
showed
us,
no
major
issues.
I
mean,
of
course
it
was
obviously
had
a
lot
of
work,
but
we
didn't
lose
any
trails
and
nothing.
You
know
permanently
damaged
just
a
matter
of
a
lot
of
hard
work
on
the
rangers
to
get
things
up
and
going
again
absolutely.
D
Yeah
it'd
be
very
rare
that
we
would
absolutely
lose
a
trail.
Our
trail
building
techniques
over
the
last
20
years
have
really
improved,
and
it's
typically
it's
the
older
trails
that
were
not
designed
correctly
that
suffer
the
most
damage
and
the
the
newer
trails
that
we've
built
are
in
much
better
condition
and
they're
much
more
able
to
handle
the
moisture.
D
I've
seen
mustard
coming
up.
I
was
mentioning
that
I
had
one
of
my
matilla
hot
poppies
bloom
today,
that's
the
earliest!
I've
ever
had
one
of
those
bloom
so
we'll
see.
I
know
the
oak
trees
are
pushing
some
grain,
so
that
seems
a
little
bit
early.
I
don't
know
maybe
everything's
going
to
take
advantage
of
it.
We
get
a
good
late
winter
rain.
I
hope
so.
I
really
do.
D
B
A
J
That's
been
open
for
a
little
bit
more
than
a
month
right
now.
People
are
loving
it,
whether
it's
they're,
just
using
it
to
hang
out
or
dance
around
on
the
stage
we
are.
We've
got
some
information
kiosks,
so
it's
probably
about
the
last
icing
on
the
cake
that
we've
got
to
put
do
that
they'll,
probably
in
a
month
or
so,
and
then
in
conjunction
with
ride
on
and
rats
mature
community
equestrian
center.
I
A
I
I
And
also
wanted
to
check,
in
with
my
colleagues
on
the
park
district
side,
about
the
progress
with
borderline
sculptures
and
whether
the
borderline
sculptures
will
be
a
good
fit
for
the
botanical
garden.
Where
are
we
with
that?
And
I
only
ask
about
it,
because
I've
been
working
with
ali
al
alinajad
and
also
some
of
the
borderline
families
that
have
been
looking
for
a
permanent
location
for
quite
some
time,
and
they
were
very
happy
that
we
had
a
temporary
exhibit
in
november,
but
obviously
they're
looking
to
have
the
sculptures
be
in
a
permanent
location.
J
J
Correct
they're
they're
one
of
our
partner
organizations
like
whether
it
was
eti
or
los
flores
community
garden.
You
know
all
they're
a
partner
organization
like
trumash
museum.
We
we
have
an
agreement
for
them
to
operate
the
acreage
as
their
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
responsible
for
all
the
maintenance
and
operations
of
the
garden.
J
Not
at
this,
that's
something
that
we
have
taken
to
our
arts,
education
and
history.
Ad
hoc
committee,
that
particular
park
was
already
designed
and
being
implemented
and
built
now.
But
at
the
moment
when
we
did
discuss
it
at
with
our
ad
hoc
committee
that
there
is
no
appropriate
place
for
within
the
district.