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General Plan Advisory Committee Meeting #9 for TO2045, the City of Thousand Oaks' General Plan Update. Live participation was available during the meeting (between 6:00-8:00 pm on August 8, 2020).
For a copy of the meeting agenda and presentation, please visit the TO2045 website through this link. To provide comments or ask questions about this meeting please email the General Plan Team at gp@toaks.org
B
C
Thank
you,
okay,
with
that,
why
don't
we
get
started?
Hi
everyone,
matt
rabey,
again,
it's
great
to
see
you
all.
We
are
gonna
jump
in
pretty
soon
to
the
to
the
presentation
I
wanna
just
start
by
asking.
I
know
a
lot
of
you
have
your
have
your
videos
on,
and
that's
great
we'd
like
to
actually
ask
that
when
we,
especially
when
we
get
into
the
conversation
and
the
discussion,
if
people
can
turn
their
videos
on
it
would
be,
it
would
be
really
helpful.
C
This
is
a
topic,
that's
very
relevant,
as
you
know,
for
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
and
very
relevant
for
right
now,
in
the
time
that
we're
living
in
we
thousand
oaks
has
clearly
had
issues
in
the
past
with
fires.
There's
fires
burning
throughout
the
state
we're
dealing
with
the
pandemic.
There's
been
public
safety
questions
all
across
the
country,
as
we
talked
about
at
our
last
meeting,
and
so
we're
going
to
cover
a
really
broad
range
of
topics
tonight
on
safety
and
resilience,
including
seismic
safety
fires.
C
Policing
and
many
other
topics
we
have
as
we
get
started,
I'm
going
to
actually
turn
it
over
to
melissa,
so
she
can
quickly
go
through
the
zoom
and
instructions
we've
done
this
before
so
we
can
do
this
quickly
and
then
andrew.
If
you
want
to
pop
up
your
screen
for
right
now,
that
would
be
great
so
that
we
can
see
we
can
do
the
screen
share
as
well
as
this
is
coming
up.
You
can
just
go
to
the
the
full
screen
here.
B
C
Have
a
present
on
a
couple
of
topics
and
then
have
an
opportunity
for
questions
at
a
few
points
in
the
process.
We're
going
to
have
a
poll
everywhere,
sort
of
an
online
live
poll
that
you
all
can
do
to
ask
you
all
some
questions.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
we're
all
staying
awake
here
and
to
get
some
feedback
so
we're
trying
that.
Let
us
know
what
you
what
you
think
of
it
and
then
at
the
end,
we're
gonna
have
a
discussion.
C
We
really
want
to
get
your
perspective
and
your
ideas,
so
we
can
begin
to
build
goals
and
policies
that
will
be
included
in
the
general
plan,
and
so
we
want
to
sense
from
you
of
what
you
think
the
the
major
issues
are
and
what
ideas
you
may
have
in
order
to
address
those
issues,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
actually
get
into
solutions.
If
you
have
them,
it
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
moving
forward
into
the
process.
So
we're
going
to
we're.
We.
C
Small
group
tonight,
so
I
think
we'll
let's
try
and
keep
this
pretty
informal.
It's
why
we
have
a
lot
of
breaks
in
between,
and
so
please
maybe
hold
your
questions
just
for
the
the
breaks
in
the
presentation.
I
think
we
have
five
of
them
and
then
the
discussion
at
the
end.
Okay,
so
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
We've
done
the
agenda
andrew
next.
D
D
D
So,
starting
from
the
left
hand,
side
of
your
screen,
the
first
red
circle
just
highlights
how
you
connect
your
audio
once
your
audio
is
connected.
If
you'd
wouldn't
mind
muting
yourself,
you
press
that
same
button
to
unmute
yourself,
you
press
it
again
we're
asking
if
folks
wouldn't
mind
keeping
themselves
muted
for
the
majority
of
the
meeting
unless
they're
speaking,
we've
got
a
big
group
online
here
and
that'll
help
eliminate
any
background
noise,
then
moving
in.
We
have
our
start
video
really
glad
to
see
that
a
lot
of
folks
have
their
video
on
tonight.
Thank
you.
D
It's
great
to
see
you
if,
for
some
reason,
you
need
to
turn
off
your
video,
you
do
it
by
clicking
that
second
button
here
and
then
to
turn
it
on.
You
click
it
again,
then,
moving
over
one
more
to
kind
of
organize
ourselves
and
how
we're
going
to
do
our
discussion
tonight.
We're
asking
if
you
wouldn't
mind
using
the
raise
hand,
button
and
you
get
to
that
by
clicking
the
participants
button,
which
is
sort.
D
Of
the
screen
here,
that'll
take
you
to
another
window,
which
is
up
on
the
right
and
you'll,
see
that
little
blue
hand,
if
you
click
that
it'll
alert
everyone
on
the
meeting
that
you'd
like
to
see
something,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
staying
muted.
Until
we
call
on
you
that'll
help
us
stay
really
organized.
D
Next
slide
for
folks
who
are
watching
this
right
now
or
watching
it
later
on.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
We're
happy
you're.
Here
we
have
a
couple
ways
for
you
to
get
involved
folks,
who
are
on
the
line
right
now,
you're
going
to
have
an
opportunity
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting
to
provide
comments
verbally,
if
you
so
choose
for
folks
who
are
watching
this,
we're
going
to
have
a
virtual
comments
forum,
that's
open!
It's
actually
open
right!
Now
you
get
that
link
by
going
to
the
project
website,
which
is
highlighted
here.
D
D
C
Okay
back
to
me
and
then
so
we're
not
going
to
do
a
full
round
of
introductions.
I
think
you
all
know
each
other.
We
have
on
the
call,
you
know
other
folks,
so
melissa
and
I
from
raymond
associates
we
have
our
usual
suspects
from
city
staff,
kristin
michael
ian
tabitha,
kelvin
carrie,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
of
city
staff
members
who
and
they
say
tabitha.
Oh,
I
said
tabitha
I
see
you
there
and
then
we
have
a
few
other
staff
members
who
are
joining
specifically
for
this
topic.
C
Rincon
is
a
ventura
based
consulting
firm.
They
are
a
sub-consultant
to
us
on
this
project,
focusing
on
seqa
environmental
review,
but
also
safety
and
natural
resources,
and
they
are
really
the
experts
on
safety
and
resilience,
and
so
I'm
going
to
actually
turn
it
over
to
joe
power
who's
going
to
do
a
quick
introduction
of
the
topic
and
then
he's
going
to
turn
it
over
to
andrew.
And
then
it
will
come
back
to
me
at
the
end
to
help
facilitate
the
discussion.
Okay,
joe,
take
it
away.
F
F
Just
so
everybody
knows
I'll,
be
doing
a
little
back
discussion
of
the
sort
of
the
regulatory
background,
the
things
that
the
city
and
the
state
are
currently
doing
with
respect
to
safety
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
number
of
specific
issues,
flooding,
natural
and
man-made
hazards,
seismic
and
other
otherwise
hazardous
materials.
All
that
sort
of
thing
then
we'll
talk
about
noise
and
then
climate
change.
F
This
is
obviously
a
new
topic
for
the
the
safety
element,
but
it's
it's
an
important
one
that
state
laws
is
kind
of
pushing
all
of
the
cities
in
the
state
to
to
cover
matt
mentioned
we're
to
cover
policing
and
then
the
one
thing
that
the
latest,
I'm
sorry
to
say
not
greatest
issue
that
we're
going
to
be
covering
that's
a
little
bit
unusual
for
for
general
plans.
Is
infectious
diseases
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
tonight
in
light
of
our
current
situation?
F
F
F
F
F
Resiliency
planning
this
is
one
of
the.
This
is
kind
of
the
newest
topic
that
we're
dealing
with
in
general
plans
on
one
of
the
new
topics-
and
this
is-
is
we've
all
seeing.
Climate
change
is
already
affecting
the
state
in
a
number
of
ways:
wildfires
extremely
high
temperatures,
the
last
few
days,
drought,
conditions
and
the
like.
F
Obviously,
things
like
sea
level
rise
as
well,
not
as
much
of
a
concern
here
in
thousand
oaks,
but
but
certainly
elsewhere
in
the
state.
The
state
legislature
recently
adopted
sb
379,
which
requires
local
governments
to
incorporate
climate
change,
adaptation
and
resiliency
planning
into
the
safety
elements
of
general
plan.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
part
of
the
weight
of
that
element.
F
F
This
is
sort
of
a
consortium
of
agencies
at
the
state
level
and
provides
kind
of
a
guidebook
for
doing
a
comprehensive
evaluation
of
vulnerabilities
and
adaptation
and
developing
adaptation
strategies
for
a
whole
host
of
different
topics
that
may
be
affected
by
climate
change,
energy,
water
resources,
wildfires,
biodiversity,
public
health
and
the
like
next
slide.
Please.
F
Now,
in
thousand
oaks,
specifically,
there
are
a
number
of
plans
in
place
as
well.
The
city,
the
county,
has
a
hazard
mitigation
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2015
and
has
an
update,
that's
underway
and
expected
to
be
approved
in
2021
as
we
go
through
this
process
and
almost
surely
ahead
of
the
general
plan
that
hazard
mitigation
plan
provides
strategies
for
addressing
emergencies
for
a
whole
host
of
issues
the
same
ones
I
kind
of
just
mentioned
it's
seismic.
It's
flooding,
it's
hazardous
material
spills.
All
of
those
things.
F
This
provides
a
comprehensive
plan
for
how
those
are
to
be
addressed
when,
if
and
when
those
those
types
of
emergency
situations
occur,
there's
also
what's
called
the
emergency
operations
plan
and
that's
a
city
plan
that
was
adopted
in
in
2020.
That
was
an
update
to
a
2014
plan.
This
one
is
really
aimed
at
addressing
the
city's
response
to
really
unusual
emergency
situations,
not
just
your
standard
emergency,
but
really
huge,
catastrophic
things,
the
woolsey
fire
and
when
it
occurred
almost
concurrently
with
the
borderline
disaster
that
you
had.
F
The
city
also
has
a
sustainability
plan
for
its
municipal
opera
municipal
operations.
It
was
adopted
in
2018
that
includes
some
150
or
so
strategies
aimed
at
improving
city
operations,
with
respect
to
say,
resilience
to
drought,
addressing
power,
outages,
dealing
with
water
supply
emergencies
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
last
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
is
the
coven
19
emergency
declaration
executive
orders,
the
city
to
declare
a
local
health
emergency.
F
F
Now,
a
couple
of
other
items,
the
ready,
ventura
county
and
vc
alert
this
really.
These
provide
planning
information
about
emergencies
in
response
and
and
the
vc
alert
is
really
aimed
at
alerting
residences
to
emergencies
and
providing
information
about
how
and
when
to
evacuate
and
that
sort
of
thing.
F
So
that's
what
that's
all
about,
and
then
last.
Lastly,
we
have
the
metropolitan
water
district.
Has
a
number
of
programs
aimed
at
water
conservation,
the
ui's
water
program
and
things
like
a
turf
replacement
program
that
provides
incentives
for
people
to
replace
their
water,
consuming
turf
with
less
more
drought-tolerant
landscaping.
F
F
That
is
going
to
supplement
the
general
plan
update
with
some
specific
strategies.
That
plan
is
moving
forward
sort
of
in
conjunction
with
the
general
plan.
I
think
what
we
would
anticipate
is
that
it
it
will.
Obviously
we
want
them
to
be
consistent,
but
the
general
plan
will
probably
provide
more
general
direction
and
then
the
ceap
will
provide
more
specifics
as
to
how
those
policies
identified
in
the
general
plan
will
actually
be
carried
out.
F
G
G
Things
of
that
nature,
how
wildfires
are
kind
of
dealt
with
in
thousand
oats
is
in
the
state
in
general,
is
in
2012
the
state
adopted
these
fire
severity
maps
and
zones.
So
this
is
thousand
oaks
and
the
red
areas
are
the
the
local
responsibility
areas,
and
these
are
where
there's
high
fire
risk
around
the
city
and
a
lot
of
that
is
in
more
open
spaces,
natural
areas
and
the
the
local
responsibility
areas
of
ventura
county
fire
department
works
with
the
city
and
they
handle
suppression
prevention.
G
G
So
the
on
the
map,
you
can
see
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
flooding
hazard
zones
and
these
are
from
fema
maps
which
are
created
to
help
jurisdictions
address
how
or
where
the
flood
hazards
are
present
and
then
also
for
insurance
purposes
that
that
also
gets
pulled
in
so
there's
a
high
concentration
right
here
of
a
hundred
year
and
500
year,
flood
plains
around
casa,
canejo
and
then
around
our
arroyo
canejo
as
well.
There
are
other
flood
plains,
so
that's
kind
of
the
state
of
flooding.
G
Not
much
has
really
changed
in
that
regard,
and
then
they're
kind
of
tying
out
is
flooding
from
dam
failure.
So
a
couple
dams
around
the
area
that
if
they
were
to
burst,
they
would
cause
inundation
property
damage
things
of
that
nature
in
a
thousand
oaks.
So
the
two
big
ones
were
our
lake
sherwood
dam
and
the
banning
dam.
Both
of
those
were
built
over
100
years
ago,
around
1900,
or
so,
if
those
were
to
ever
burst
that
would
definitely
potentially
affect
thousand
oaks.
So
the
the
state
of
california
is
responsible
for
regulating
dams.
G
It's
not
something
that
it
needs
to
be
addressed
directly.
In
thousand
oaks
safety
element,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
the
city
can
prepare
for
and
try
to
address.
In
some
ways
the
the
state
inspects
the
dams
and
then
they
give
recommendations
to
damn
owners
to
try
and
keep
them
well
maintained,
and
things
like
that,
so
that's
kind
of
it
for
dams.
G
Moving
into
earthquakes
and
seismic
activity,
obviously
this
is
you
know
an
issue
around
the
state:
there's
always
a
risk.
There's
a
history
of
earthquakes,
nearby
san
fernando
northridge,
earthquakes,
those
were
both
6.7
magnitude,
earthquakes
and
the
two
major
faults
shown
on
the
map.
Here
are
the
the
bony
mountain
faults
and
the
sycamore
canyon
fault.
G
And
then,
similarly
landslides,
so
that's
fallen.
Massive
solar
rock
that
can
be
caused
by
improper
modification
of
slopes,
high
gradient
areas
on
unstable
surfaces,
so
there's
a
pretty
high
concentration
of
that
on
the
northeast
side
of
the
city
and
and
that
and
there's
a
lot
of
natural
areas
over
there.
It's
similar
trend
in
the
the
northwest
and
the
current
safety
element
for
thousand
oaks
has
a
variety
of
measures
in
place
already
drainage
designs
to
eliminate
creating
new
hazards,
new
unstable
slopes
and
guidance
for
areas
and
also
setbacks
from
unstable
zones.
G
And
then
kind
of
moving
into
man-made
hazards,
so
first
is
a
hazardous
materials.
This
can
be
any
number
of
toxic
chemicals
pesticides
under
leaking
underground
storage,
tanks,
cleaning
products
from
households,
those
can
all
if
they're
improperly,
transported
or
managed
they
can
cause
a
public
health
incident.
So
typically,
the
transportation
of
these
chemicals
is
the
leading
cause
of
a
hazardous
outbreak
and
in
thousand
oaks
it's
on
highway,
101
and
state
route.
G
23
are
the
two
main
thoroughfares
where
hazardous
material
is
transported
and
there's
about
a
hundred
and
two
hundred
trucks
per
day
that
pass
through
a
thousand
oaks
along
those
routes
and
those
are
based
off
california,
highway
patrol
numbers
and
also
on
the
map.
Here
you
can
see
the
15
active
cleanup
sites
in
the
city's
sphere
of
influence
and
there's
over
200
inactive
for
closed
sites
as
well.
G
So
there's
not
a
that's,
not
terribly
high,
but
for
a
city
jurisdiction,
but
there's
definitely
a
you
know
a
presence
of
hazardous
material
sites
throughout
and
then
the
the
management
of
these
hazardous
materials.
Obviously,
the
state
has
regulations
for
these
hazardous
materials
moving
across
the
state
down
highways
things
like
that,
the
the
city,
though
it
does
operate
a
household
hazardous
waste
facility
for
small
businesses
and
residents
to
bring
their
waste
to
to
help
properly
manage
that
as
discarded
and
hazardous
materials
is
managed
primarily
at
the
county
level,
by
the
environmental
health
division.
G
So
they
have
a
a
large
hazardous
materials
program.
They
also
have
requirements
for
any
business
that
is
handling
hazardous
materials
above
a
certain
threshold
that
they
have
to
submit
a
business
plan
of
how
they
are
managing
that
material
and
how
they
will
get
rid
of
it
remediate
things
of
that
nature.
G
If
anything
were
to
occur.
Any
incidences,
ventura
county
has
a
hazardous
materials
emergency
response
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2014,
and
they
there
was
also
a
management
plan
that
was
adopted
in
1986,
which
is
pretty
old
at
this
point.
But
the
thousand
oaks
adopted
its
own
policy
and
implementation
document
as
a
part
of
the
general
plan
to
kind
of
work
with
the
county
and
the
fire
department.
G
G
It
can
lead
that
some
health
issues
or
psychological
damage
if
it's
consistent
or
extremely
loud
in
thousand
oaks.
The
major
sources
are
construction
activity.
Motor
vehicle
traffic,
industrial,
commercial
land
uses
things
of
that
nature,
while
large
thoroughfares,
especially-
and
it's
very
one
of
the
biggest
focuses
in
terms
of
the
planning
angle
of
it-
is
when
there's
new
developments
trying
to
keep
those
lot
new
loud
sources
away
from
noise,
sensitive
land
uses
such
as
schools,
hospitals,
residential
areas,
things
like
that.
G
G
And
then
another
extremely
relevant
topic:
infectious
diseases
not
usually
really
focused
on
in
general
plans
or
emergency
response
plans,
but
obviously
there's
a
new
found
importance
on
the
issue.
The
cova
19,
there's
8634
cases
as
of
about
a
week
ago
in
ventura
county.
I
think
I
I
checked
earlier
today
and
I
was
up
to
9
500
cases.
So
obviously
it's
a
very
present
issue
here
in
california,
it's
very
contagious.
G
They
are
mainly
releasing
directives,
protocols,
kind
of
orchestrating
the
the
response
to
this
pandemic
and
how,
hopefully
it
can
you
know,
lessen
its
impact
and
have
less
cases,
but
in
terms
of
preparedness
for
future
pandemics.
In
the
emergency
operations
plan
in
2020,
a
public
health
emergency
was
listed
as
being
a
part
of
that
plan.
Epidemics
were
not
included
in
the
county's
local
hazard
mitigation
plan.
A
F
Yeah
ongoing
cleanups,
you
know,
to
be
honest,
I
don't
know
whether
those
are
increasing
or
decreasing.
That's
a
good
question,
though
we
could
probably
take.
We
could
dig
into
that
a
little
more
deeply
and
see
if
there
if
there
seems
to
be
any
trend
in
that
regard.
It
would
kind
of
surprise
me
if
there
was
any
substantial
increase
in
in
that
sort
of
thing.
To
be
honest,
I'd
say
this
is
not,
for
the
most
part,
a
major
concern
in
thousand
oaks.
F
These,
the
hazardous
material
issues
are
usually
of
greater
concern
in
older
industrial
communities
and
things
like
that
not
to
completely
I'm
not
trying
to
discount
the
issue,
but
it's
not
the
kind
of
thing
that
I'd
say
is
we
typically
think
of.
As
a
you
know,
a
major
major
concern
in
thousand
oaks.
F
F
C
C
D
E
D
Of
multiple
choice
answers
the
question
is:
how
prepared
do
you
feel
for
future
wildfires
compared
to
the
before
the
hill
woodley
fire?
Do
you
feel
the
city
is
prepared
and
your
options
range
from
very
prepared
down
to
not
prepared
at
all
we'll
pause
here
for
a
few
seconds?
While
we
get
our
responses
in
and
then
we'll
share
results
and
we'll
be
able
to
see
how
the
group
is.
D
D
D
So
it
looks
like
most
of
folks
are
feeling
prepared,
35
percent
feel
prepared,
30
feel
not
very
prepared.
Next,
we
have
fifteen
percent,
feel
neutral
and
then
split
between
very
prepared
and
not
prepared
at
all
with
the
ten
percent
each.
We
have
a
few
responses
from
our
online
forum
for
folks
who
are
either
listening
in
or
following
along
from
home.
D
D
C
C
F
I
I
I
I
would
say
from
my
standpoint
is
joe:
I
that
doesn't
surprise
me
that
there
was
sort
of
result
there.
My
guess
is
that
people
feel,
and
rightly
so,
a
lot
less
prepared
than
we
thought
we
were
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
think
we
realized
that
with
the
changing
situation.
Well,
we
thought
we
were
in
better
shape
than
we
really
are.
Is
my
guess.
H
If
I
could
just
comment
on
that,
I
I
would
certainly
be
interested
in
hearing
from
the
members.
I
I
I
find
it
kind
of
surprising,
with
we've
done
so
much
work
in
the
last
three
years.
So
I'd
be
interested
to
know
if,
if
the
people
that
are
commenting
about
being
prepared
or
unprepared
are
saying
it
as
an
individual
or
is
it
they
feel
the
community
is
unprepared
just
some.
Some
comment
would
be
helpful
to
hear
that.
H
Sorry
about
that
yeah,
my
name
is
graham
watts.
I
work
in
the
public
works
department,
I'm
an
emergency
services
manager
and
the
emergency
operations
plan
and
other
related
documents.
I'm
responsible
for
and,
like
I
said,
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
preparedness
and
follow-up
action
after
action
reports,
similar
to
what
ventura
did
with
the
thomas
fire.
We
did
the
same
with
the
wolsey
fire
and
the
hill
fire
and
several
other
incidents
that
don't
make
the
headlines.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
any
feedback
from
the
group
specifically
to
individual
or
community
preparedness.
C
E
Yeah
thanks
yeah.
I
I
think
the
city
of
thousand
oaks
is,
I
put
prepared.
We
can't
stop
the
fact.
There's
mountains
on
both
sides
of
this
city.
I
was
actually
shocked
by
the
fact
that,
when
the
fires,
the
woolsey
fire
rolled
through
aguero
hills
and
thousand
oaks
over
about
thousands
of
houses
and
thousands
of
businesses,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
saw
burnt
hills
and
standing
buildings.
So
the
fact
that
our
buildings
aren't
made
with
oil
dipped-
you
know
kindling,
it's
stuck
on
spanish
tile.
I
I'm.
E
I
was
actually
surprised
there
wasn't
more
damage.
I
saw
the
firefighters
out
there
doing
what
they
could.
My
you
know
the
street
organization.
We
can't
stop
fire
guys
right.
So
I
think
the
city
of
thousands
was
the
question.
Graham,
so
thank
you
is
doing
a
fantastic
job
and
they
have
to
because
we're
surrounded
on
both
sides
of
us
by
pills
that
could
have
fire
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do.
E
B
Yes,
action,
graham
you,
you
did
hit
right
on
my.
That
was
my
first
reaction
when
I
saw
the
pull
way,
who
am
I
answering
for
and
actually
I
said
prepared
for
both
myself?
Actually,
I
call
myself
very
prepared
and
I
think
the
city
is
prepared
and
really
again
you
know
the
you
mobilize
emergency
operations
center.
I
Okay,
so
during
the
woolsey
fire-
okay,
so
where
I
live,
there's
a
lot
of
people
very
low
on
very
low
car
ownership
rates.
Quite
a
few
seniors
in
the
disabled,
there
were
people
who
just
were
not
able
to
get
out
and
I
think
that's
a
concern
getting
people
transported
out
of
areas
that
are
that
you
know
that
are
heavily
dense
but
don't
have
where
the,
but,
where
people
don't
have
a
lot
of
cars.
That
was
an
issue
in
the
area.
Also,
I
lived
in
that
area
had
not
burned.
I
I
This
happened
and
second,
when
the
when
the
evacuation
centers,
they
got
them
open
very
quickly,
but
they
also
filled
up
very
quickly
one
filled
up,
and
then
they
opened
another
one,
and
there
was
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
confusion,
because
some
people
were
being
told
what's
full,
but
they
were
not
being
told
go
to
the
the
community
center
on
moore
park.
Road
because
they
were
coming
to
the
global
center,
it
was
full
and
there
was
a
bit
of
confusion
there.
I
I
know
there
were
people
who
were
struggling
to
find
the
evacuation
centers
where
they
could
take
their
large
animals,
and
there
were
some
people
who
were
told
to
go
all
the
way
to
woodland
hills
and
it
ended
up
being
full
there
and
the
problem
with
that
was.
There
was
still
space
at
the
community
center
here
on
moore
park
road,
and
so
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
lack
of
communication
there.
I
F
J
And
I
think
we
are
prepared,
we
learned
a
lot
from
that
last
fire.
I
live
about
a
mile
east
of
the
main
library
and
I
could
see
the
hills
about
a
quarter
mile
from
me,
a
flame
which
was
a
wake-up
call,
but
I
think
the
city
has
done
a
lot
to
prepare
for
it
now.
I
feel
confident
that
we'll
address
the
next
one,
just
fine.
J
Hello,
I
guess
I
have
to
take
it
off
on
my
phone
and
on
the
computer
yeah
I
actually
put
less
than
prepared,
and
that
was
really
more
based
on
the
woolsey
fire.
I'm
not
intimately
familiar
what
the
city's
been
doing
since
the
woolsey
fire,
but
in
part
I
think
that
goes
back
to
maybe
doing
a
little
more
public
education,
because
the
community,
I
think,
really
needs
to
understand
how
to
prepare
and
how
to
react
to
those
emergencies.
But
from
the
woolsey
fire
experience
you
know
I
live
in
the
newbury
park
area.
J
Our
entire
area
was
evacuated
almost
at
one
time.
I
personally
lived
about
a
two-minute
walk
from
the
emergency
evacuation
center,
where
they're
telling
everybody
to
go
so
then
all
the
freeways
were
packed
and
people
couldn't
get
out
because
everyone
was
told
to
leave
at
the
same
time,
even
an
area
that
I
really
at
this
point.
The
hill
fire
had
already
kind
of
passed
our
house
in
newark
park
and
was
headed
almost
towards
the
malibu.
G
J
And
so
all
the
opportunity
for
fire
had
already
kind
of
passed
our
neighborhood,
but
everyone
was
being
asked
to
evacuate
at
like
two
in
the
morning,
so
I
think
definitely
some
more
strategic
emergency
evacuation
orders,
a
little
more
on
the
ground
would
help,
and
my
big
issue
is
with
the.
I
think
there
is
ways
to
at
least
mitigate
the
fire
and
doing
some
sort
of
strategic.
J
You
know
fire
breaks
and
maybe
that's
a
controversial
issue
to
go
in
and
do
fire
breaks,
but
if
everything
burns
then
the
whole
nature
burns
anyway.
I
know
where
the
hill
of
fire
burned
kind
of
in
behind
newbury
park
and
jose
ends
up
down
the
middle.
That's
the
third
time
it's
burned.
Since
I've
lived
here
for
about
16
years,
so
every
few
years
it
burns
it
comes
through
and
burns
the
whole
area,
and
so
we
don't
seem
to
do
anything
about
fire
breaks,
and
you
know
I
know.
J
We've
I've
talked
to
other
people
in
other
parts
of
the
state
in
the
country
where
they
look
at
doing
strategic
grazing.
They
look
at
doing
or
some
sort
of
other
strategic
fire
breaks.
Kind
of
working
with
your
fire
department
and
obviously
all
the
working
with
biologists
and
environmentalists
to
try
to
you
know
find
spots
that
you
know
are
kind
of
that,
helping
with
the
fire
without
having
too
much
environmental
damage.
But
I
think
that
should
be
something
that's
on
the
table
until
we're
doing
something
like
that.
E
John
brooks
city
of
thousand
oaks
in
the
sustainability
division
and
recent
author
of
the
firewise
landscaping
and
home
defense
blog.
So
there
is
a
actually
I
didn't
really
do
it.
I
talked
to
the
author
of
the
speaker
coming
up,
that's
going
to
be
hosted
at
cayegas
september
17th,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
great
seminar
covering
how
you
kind
of
protect
your
home
and
prepare
for
home
defense
for
fires.
A
D
D
D
C
C
B
C
C
C
H
H
The
the
comments
I
appreciate
having
to
do
with
emergency
management
was
certainly
appreciated,
a
couple
of
them
just
for
clarification
purposes.
The
gentleman
commented
about
the
hill
canyon
hill
fire.
I
also
live
in
newark
park,
and
that
area
is
part
of
the
sycamore
fire
also
burned,
and
it
will
burn
again
and
thankfully
it
was
burned.
Otherwise,
all
of
those
vientos
would
have
been
inflamed.
H
H
It
was
a
very
difficult,
perfect
storm
with
wind
heat,
multiple
fires,
exhaustion
from
the
borderline.
I
mean
we
had
everything
happening
at
once,
so
usually
we
have
one
fire
and
one
area
of
the
city
and
evacuations
on
the
other.
In
this
case
we
had
freeways
closed.
We
had
everything
going
at
one
time,
so
it
was
pretty
amazing,
but
in
what
I
did
hear
from
everyone
is
more
education,
more
outreach
and
more
structure
hardening.
H
So
I
certainly
appreciate
all
that-
and
I
would
also
mirror
the
comments
about
the
pandemic-
that
yes,
it's
more
of
a
county,
statewide
issue
but
locally.
We
can
implement
measures
that
support
what
the
county
is
proposing
and
we
are
already
doing
that.
In
fact,
this
meeting
is
part
of
that
because
of
what
we're
doing
virtually
so.
I
certainly
appreciate
the
comments.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and-
and
you
know,
one
of
our
one
of
our
challenges
with
with
safety
and
with
these
topics
is
that
we
always
end
up
with
the
best
ideas
after
a
major
event
happens,
and
so
how
do
we
do
our
best
to
plan
ahead
and
that's
where
the
resilience
comes
in?
It's
the
the
preparation
and
then
the
resilience
of
how
you
respond
afterwards.
So.
G
So
there's
a
variety
of
topics
and
you'll
notice
that
a
lot
of
these
tie
in
directly
with
the
existing
safety
hazards
that
were
just
covered,
so
the
intersection
between
climate
change
and
the
impacts
of
climate
change
on
all
these
existing
hazards
is
really
this
cross-section.
That,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
more
and
more
important
over
the
next
couple
of
decades
here.
G
So
for
context
joe
mentioned
a
cal
adapt
which
is
a
state-run
program
or
module,
I
guess
is
a
good
way
of
putting
it
online
and
it.
It
basically
gives
you
this
group,
this
style
of
graph
on
the
right
here
where
it
it
takes
together
a
variety
of
models
and
it
puts
them
together.
So
you
get
really
a
succinct
and
dynamic
visualization
of
you
know
what
is
is
projected
to
happen
as
a
result
of
climate
change,
based
on
a
variety
of
scenarios.
G
So
as
this
trend
continues
and
if
it
does
continue,
there,
there's
going
to
be
impacts,
so
water
and
energy
demand
more
people
using
ac,
more
people.
You
know
using
water
in
general
to
cool
down
whether
it's
their
plants
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
different
aspects.
There,
energy
supply
availability
very
relevant
to
right
now
with
the
rolling
blackouts
that
you
know,
we've
seen
just
the
the
demand
more
more
people
want
energy
for
ac
that
also
impacts
energy
costs.
G
G
G
I
think
four,
that
the
average
heat
wave
is
going
to
be
up
to
four
days
compared
to
about
like
a
half
of
a
day
from
the
past,
and
the
number
of
extreme
heat
days
are
projected
to
go
as
high
as
90
days
or
50
days.
I'm
sorry
per
a
year
by
the
end
of
the
century.
So
that's
days
that
I
think
that
the
threshold
is
94
degrees
fahrenheit.
G
So
that's
the
the
the
number
of
days
above
94
degrees,
fahrenheit,
that's
kind
of
what
this
is
looking
at
and
the
impacts
of
this
are
are
very
similar.
You
know
the
sea
waves
will
be
longer
generally
hotter
and
then
they'll
be
happening
more
frequently,
so
that
that
ties
in
with
the
the
temperature
and
then
the
impacts
of
that
on
the
community.
G
And
then
that
that
kind
of
brings
into
precipitation
and
drought,
so
drought
kind
of
a
result
of
you
know
it's
intertwined
with
heat
waves,
higher
temperatures
precipitation
overall,
it's
very
interesting
so
that
the
total
annual
precipitation
statewide
in
california
is
it's.
The
the
trend
is
basically
the
same
on
average
in
terms
of
the
projected
amount
of
precipitation
in
total,
it's
going
to
fall,
but
it's
kind
of
misleading
to
kind
of
take
that
as
oh,
there
won't
be
an
impact
because
the
there
will
be
more
precipitation
falling
as
rain
rather
than
snow.
G
The
the
soil
generally
will
will
be
there'll,
be
like
higher
variability
in
terms
of
how
much
rain
there
is
so
that
drives
out
the
soil
that
can
create
more
flash
flooding
risks
to
go
to
the
flood
hazards.
Tie-In
have
agriculture
impacts,
so
there's
a
variety
of
issues
that
could
impact
people's
safety
and
public
health
and
access
to
water.
G
All
that
stuff
is
tied
together
and
something
that
is
definitely
coming
increasing
issue
and
kind
of
make
some
of
the
safety
hazards
that
are
present
right
now,
worse
or
potentially
worse.
If
they're
not
properly
addressed
through
adaptation,
resilience
measures
and
then
that
that
brings
right
into
going
back
into
this
conversation
about
wildfires
and
and
the
cross
section
between
that
and
air
quality
generally
air
quality
is
set.
G
There
is
projected
to
get
worse
as
a
result
of
climate
change,
notwithstanding
wildfires
just
generally
as
the
air
is
hotter,
it
creates
an
environment
where
pollutants
are
are
more
able
to
freely
float
form
things
like
that
ozone
gets
worse.
There's
a
lot
of
different.
You
know.
Air
pollutants
out
there
that
that
would
are
will
get
worse
as
things
get
hotter.
So
then,
when
you
mix
in
wildfires
as
we're
seeing
now,
I'm
in
the
bay
area
here
in
oakland
and
the
smoke
is,
you
know
hazy
can't
really
go
outside.
G
There's
a
lot
of
public
health
risks
just
with
respiratory
issues,
heart
issues
as
wildfires
continue
to
to
get
more
intense,
longer
more
frequent.
Those
issues
become
more
and
more
constant
and
and
ever
present.
So
you
know
how
can
the
general
plan
for
thousand
oaks
try
to
address
and
mitigate
some
of
these?
These
issues?
You
know,
and
that's
I
mean
getting
into
the
property
risk
of
just
wildfires
in
general,.
G
D
Right
we
just
launched
our
third
poll.
This
question
asks
which
natural
disaster
or
event
are
you
most
concerned
about
in
the
city
of
thousand
oaks,
options
are
increased
temperature
and
extreme
heat
events
or
precipitation
flooding
and
drought
or
wildfires
and
air
quality,
give
this
a
few
seconds,
and
then
we
will
share
our.
D
D
C
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
I
I
had
answered
it
that
wildfires,
because
I
think
the
nature
of
the
question
was
what
is
it
relevant
to
a
thousand
oaks?
I
think
just
the
nature
of
the
question
does
sort
of
say
the
wildfires
are
the
things
we
can
have
more
control
to
prevent
in
our
given
areas
versus
increased
temperatures,
which
I
think
are
a
big
issue.
A
We
all
ought
to
be
contributing
to
the
solution
for,
but
I
think
one
thing
that
can
be
helpful
is
we
do
know
it's
a
real,
as
I
think
you
were
saying,
matt,
we
sort
of
sometimes
plan
for
the
most
recent.
Like
things,
we've
had
to
go
through
and
don't
look
ahead.
The
whole
thing
of
planning
is
to
look
ahead
and
be
prepared
for
the
things
that
maybe
haven't
happened.
What
can
we,
as
a
city,
do
to
help
do
our
part
or
contribute
the
best
understanding,
the
impacts
of
increased
temperatures
and
global
warming?
A
C
I
Okay,
well,
I
I
picked
the
extreme
temperatures
and
the
heat
events,
because
once
again,
this
is
an
aging
community,
and
you
know
in
the
summer,
when
it's
really
hot,
you
may
have
some
seniors
who
will
not
use
their
ac
because
they
are,
you
know
they
don't
want
to
run
up
their
electricity
bill,
and
I
think
what
how
we
can
tie
this
into
the
general
plan,
something
that
we
can
do.
Maybe
a
little
bit
easier
is
tied
in
with
housing.
I
You
know
maybe
make
it
where
it's
possible
to
have
a
density
bonus
for
developers
who
incorporate.
You
know
solar
panels
into
their
newer
buildings,
because
there
is
a
street
I
live
on.
There
is
a
public
housing
authority
building
where
they
did
include
some
solar
in
the
building
and
some
of
the
people
over
there
that
I
know
it
has
helped
them
with
their
electricity
bill,
and
you
know
air
conditioning,
it's
no
longer
a
luxury.
I
E
Hey
guys
yeah
a
lot
of
great
comments
there
I
agree
with
mick
and
victor.
I
think
I
looked
at
the
question
as
more
what
we
can
handle
in
a
general
plan,
which
is
what
you
know
we're
talking
about.
I
think
you
can
do
a
lot
of
mitigation.
You
could
you
could
say
where
you
know
evacuation
zones
are
when
it
comes
to
fires.
I
think
we
learned
from
one
of
the
earlier
meetings
map
the
highest
pollution
and
that
I
mean
we're
pretty
clean
city.
E
I
would
say
compared
to
a
lot
of
places
in
this
world.
I
think
the
one-on-one
freeway
had
the
most
ablution
we're
not
gonna,
reroute
it
and
we're
not
gonna
change
the
trucks
driving
by
so
there's
only
so
much
you
can
do
in
a
general
plan,
there's
plenty
of
laws
that
we
have
emissions
laws
and
all
these
other
things
that
so
from
a
general
plan
standpoint,
which
is
why
we're
here.
I
think
that,
while
that's
why
I
chose
wildfire
and
some
other
things,
we
have
a
little
more
physical
control
over.
E
B
Yeah,
so
I
picked
extreme
heat
events
not
to
downplay
far.
I
literally
evacuated
ventura
during
the
thomas
fire,
two
thousand
oaks,
and
that's
how
I
ended
up
here
so
and
then
in
the
evacuated
hill
fire
to
a
place
that
became
a
woolsey
fire
evacuation
zone.
So
I
just
bounced
all
over
the
place
from
fire.
So
I'm
not
gonna
downplay
fires
at
all.
B
But
fires
are
big,
dramatic
events
that
get
every
gets
everyone's
attention
and
I
I
assumed
that
there
would
be
a
large
minority
or
majority
of
people
who
would
select
wildfires.
For
that
reason-
and
I
want
to
highlight
extreme
heat
events,
because
when
folks
die
in
extreme
heat
events,
it's
not
big
disaster
news.
B
Sure
I
totally
agree.
We
as
a
city
can't
do
much
to
mitigate
sorry
to
to
prevent
extreme
heat
events,
but
I
think
the
city
needs
to
plan
to
mitigate
those
events
as
they
become
more
frequent
because
those
will
be
quietly
killing
people
and
impacting
people's
lives
and
not
get
attention
unless
we
specifically
plan
to
account
for
them.
C
G
G
It's
variable,
based
on
where
a
police
car's
at
at
the
time
of
a
call,
but
generally
goals
were
met
about
70
percent
of
the
time
for
both
emergency
and
non-emergency
calls.
So
that
was
the
the
rate
for
that
and
then
on.
A
budgeted
operational
cost
is
about
30
million
in
2017-2018
for
a
per
capita
rate
of
232
dollars.
G
So
that
kind
of
brings
the
conclusion.
You
know:
thousand
oaks,
there's
a
lot
of
positives
in
terms
of
its
safety
and
resiliency
planning.
It
just
seems
like
there's
a
strong
relationship
with
the
county
and
planning
emergency
responses,
and
implementation
has
that
emergency
operations
plan,
which
was
recently
updated,
the
city
controls
its
water
utility
for
a
good
portion
of
its
residents.
So
in
terms
of
resiliency
water
conservation,
things
like
that,
there's
some
room
for
burbank
action
there
and
then,
and
on
the
flip
side
there
there.
G
You
know
our
issue
areas
that,
for
the
general
plan
update
not
only
that
were
discussed
during
the
polls,
but
just
general
climate
resiliency
measures
how
to
how
to
respond
better
to
pandemic
situations
that
we're
currently
going
through
mitigating
wildfire
risk
and
then
equitable,
policing
and
hazard
responses
in
general.
How
to?
How
does
the
city
of
bosnia
accomplish
that?
C
Yeah,
actually,
I
think
we're
gonna
go
and
move
on
to.
Why
don't
we
skip
the
poll
here,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
time
for
discussion
and
then
public
comment.
I
know
we've
got
approximately
15
people
from
the
public
who
are
I'm
watching?
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
there's
time.
So,
let's
go
to
the
maybe
to
the
next
slide,
which
is
the
discussion
questions
that
we
had,
and
these
are
just
some
questions.
C
You
know,
prior
to
our
conversation
that
we
had
tonight
some
of
the
questions
that
we
came
up
with,
which
is
you
know,
first,
what
are
the
most
critical
safety
issues
in
thousand
oaks
and
then
really
importantly,
what
can
the
general
plan
actually
do
to
address
them?
What
can
we
do?
What
are
the
key
needs
in
the
community
for
increasing
resiliency
to
the
impacts
of
climate
change?
C
C
I
guess
just
an
observation
from
where
I
sit
and
again
this
is
not
my
area
of
expertise,
but
it
seems
that
compared
to
a
lot
of
communities
where,
where
I
work
across
the
state
that
thousand
oaks
is
actually
dealing
with
more
safety
related
issues
than
potentially
other
communities,
you
know
you're
right
in
the
wildfire
hazard
zone.
You're
you've
got
you've,
got
faults,
you've
got
extreme
heat
events.
You've
got
issues
from
from
damn
innovation.
C
F
C
Good
responses
to
that,
and
so
be
great
to
see
that
trend
that
trend
continue.
So
maybe
we'll
start
with
that.
The
first
question
of
what
are
the:
what
are
the
most
pressing
issues?
Is
there
anything
that
was
missed
in
terms
of
safety
in
what
we
presented
this
evening
and
then
for
the
most
pressing
issues?
C
F
C
A
So
the
the
cr,
the
you
know,
I
think,
obviously,
the
critical
ones
they're
the
ones
that
are
that
are
at
our
attention
and
the
ones
that
we
think
happen.
All
the
you
know
are
happen,
the
most
frequently
and
obviously
we're
in
an
area
where
wildfires
occur
on
an
annual
basis
and
they
happen
to
be
occurring
more
frequently.
So
it's
something
it's
a
critical
safety
issue
for
us.
There
are
a
number
I
I
think,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
other
those
you
know.
Other
potential
safety
issues
might
be.
A
The
ones
where
we
get
surprised
are
the
ones
that,
of
course,
haven't
happened
but
might
happen
in
the
future,
but
they
likely
would
happen
at
a
low
likelihood.
You
know
to
where,
like
low
probability,
we
just
don't
just
don't
know
about
them.
You
can't
plan
for
everything,
but
what
we
can
do
potentially
is
look
out
to
say.
Are
there
things
that
aren't
affecting
us
now?
That
could
be
low
probability?
Should
we
list
those
out
and
at
least
have
put
a
little
mind,
share
and
planning
to
think?
How
would
we
kind
of
address
that?
A
So
we
would
have
some
nominal
things
in
place
if
those
things
happen.
I
know
when
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
back
when
9
11
happened.
So
terrorism
was
one
of
the
issues
that
all
of
a
sudden
became
up
in
attention.
It's,
it's
kind
of
you
know
faded
from
from
our
memory
on
those
things
that
doesn't
mean
it
wouldn't
happen
again,
it
doesn't
mean
that
domestic
terrorism
wouldn't
happen
again,
that
you
know
that
the
you
know
a
lot.
A
A
lot
of
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
passions
being
thrown
around
right
now,
politically
and
with
those
who
spark
into
things
that
could
lead
to
safety.
Issues
in
the
city
doesn't
mean
that
they're
going
to
happen,
but
they
might
be
worthy
of
a
little
bit
of
of
listing
out
some
of
those
things
which
I'm
sure
the
city
probably
already
does,
but
just
having
a
little
bit
of
of
getting
you
to
think
a
little
bit
outside
of
what
normally
is
right
in
front
of
you
to
figure
out.
A
C
H
Surprisingly,
I
haven't
heard
anyone
mention
earthquake,
so
get
ready,
because
that's
next
and
we
will
have
several
fires
now,
to
give
you
night
a
sense
of
planning
about
two-thirds
of
thousand
oaks
around.
It
has
been
burned,
we've
identified
areas
that
have
not
been
burned
and
we're
anticipating
that
they're
next,
and
should
that
happen,
we're
making
contingencies
for
evacuations
for
planning
for
communications
all
the
time
now.
H
Now
it
might
be
pandemic
in
fires
and
heat
waves,
but
in
six
months
that
will
change.
No
one
is
really
talking
about
earthquakes
right
now,
not
just
on
this
group
but
throughout,
and
we
have
them
every
single
day.
They
may
not
be
as
local
and
as
big
as
we're
used
to,
but
that
will
happen.
We
will
lose
power.
We
will
have
all
kinds
of
things
happening,
but
you
can't
plan
without
planning
and
expecting
the
next
disaster
so
remaining
calm
and
know
that
the
city
and
the
county
have
a
plan.
H
C
J
The
101
south
was
closed,
so
you
had
only
a
couple
ways
you
could
either
go
101
north
or
try
to
get
on
the
23
and
those
were
just
gridlocked,
and
so
maybe
we
have
to
have.
We
may
not
be
able
to
build
wider
or
more
roads.
So
thinking
about
what
do
we
do?
If
we
can't
evacuate,
you
know
right
away
making
sure
we're
considering
that
some
sort
of
shelter
in
place,
whether
it's
at
these
evacuation
centers,
but
on
a
large,
a
large
scale.
J
Since
people
you
know,
may
have
trouble
evacuate
if
we
have
an
earthquake
and
one
of
our
bridges
go
down
on
one
of
these
freeways,
then
then
we're
basically,
you
know
out
of
luck
as
far
as
trying
to
get
mass
amount
of
people
out
of
the
city.
So
I
think
that's
a
regardless
of
the
hazard
you
know
is
probably
one
of
the
major
issues
for
the
city.
J
Yes,
mr
watts,
read
my
mind:
earthquakes,
it's
when
not
if-
and
it
really
really
makes
me
uneasy
when
I
hear
people
for
the
sake
of
more
density
talk
about
building
above
three
stories,
that
should
be
a
definite
exception
versus
a
rule
as
far
as
concerning
building
above
that
level.
Thank
you
and
fred.
Why
is
that?
J
C
I
I
If
there
is
a
disaster
yeah
you
get
together
with
your
neighbors
and
decide.
Okay,
so
who's
going
to
take
charge
who's
going
to
take
this
person
out
who's
going
to
take
this
family
out.
You
know,
I
think
people
are
going
to
have
to
kind
of
evacuate
together,
they're,
not
always
going
to
be
able
to
get
in
one
car
and
just
go
because
it's
going
to
cause
a
backup.
I
So
that
is
something
that
I
we
have
to
look
at
is
because
there
are
a
lot
of
streets
in
this
city,
residential
streets,
where
there's
only
one
way
out,
and
even
if
the
few
people
can't
get
to
the
evacuations,
I
mean
what
are
they
going
to
do?
If
they're,
you
know,
they're
stuck
on
their
residential
street.
C
Are
there
I'm
going
to
ask
thanks
jason?
Are
there
things
that
activities
or
policies
or
strategies?
You
think
that
the
city
should
start
to
think
about
for
climate
change
and
resilience.
You
know
this
is
this
is
a
topic
you
know
mickey
brought
this
up.
It's
like
this
is
a
very
long-range
topic
and
it
is
the
exact
kind
of
thing
we
should
be
thinking
about
in
the
general
plan,
because
we
can
be
proactive
now,
rather
than
just
reactive,
to
an
event.
C
B
B
We
go
yeah,
I
think
chase
actually
touched
on
one
of
his
earlier
comments.
I
think
if
the
city
has
kind
of
can
start
thinking
about
a
plan
to
assist
people
in
retrofitting
their
homes,
both
with
solar,
increased
insulation
cisterns
for
water
collection.
When
it
does
rain,
I
mean
it
would
be
an
expensive
procedure,
and
that
also
goes
for
wildfire
protection,
as
I
already
mentioned
in
grand
mention
house
hardening
and
many
things
that
can
be
done
so
that
we
can
essentially
individually
and
as
a
city
protect
ourselves
in
place.
C
All
right,
graham,
let
me
ask
you
something
since
you've
done
a
lot
of
thinking
about
this.
What
do
you
feel
should
be
included
in
the
general
plan
relative
to
safety
and
resilience
in
order
for
you
to
be
for
your
job,
to
be
more
more
effective
and
for
you
to
help
help
protect
the
city
in
the
future,
and
you
know-
and
maybe
maybe
step
back
and
think
really
big
and
long-term
of
things
that
are
new
and
creative
and
innovative
that
maybe
we
haven't
thought
about
yet.
H
I
will
be
a
defender
of
local
government
as
being
the
most
responsive,
but
the
fire
department
isn't
going
to
knock
on
your
door
and
ask
you
if
you're,
okay,
early
on
they're,
going
to
ask
you
late
in
the
process.
You
need
to
be
ahead
of
that.
So
when
you
ask
that
question,
it's
almost
like
any
other
type
of
city
service.
Where
would
you
put
it?
I
would
put
it
in
the
forefront
with
public
safety
and
everything.
It's
almost
like.
Every
time
you
go
into
a
building
and
go
see
a
theater.
H
Do
you
look
at
the
for
the
evacuation
routes?
You
probably
don't
unless
you
work
in
public
safety,
but
what
we
could
do
is
do
a
better
job,
educating
and
reminding
people
to
think
about
safety.
So
my
overall
response
would
be
intertwined
public
safety,
individual
preparedness
response
in
every
aspect
of
all
programs
in
the
general
plan.
They're
all
related
and
one
quick
example-
would
be
power
we're
going
through
these
heat
waves.
We
need
to
have
contingency
powers
in
place.
We
need
to
have
more
solar
battery
storage
in
place.
We
need
to
be
self-sufficient.
H
C
K
K
K
They
have
diesel
generators
and
all
of
our
critical
operations
have
diesel
generators,
so
they
can
operate
for
a
number
of
days.
I
believe
I
don't
know
exactly
how
long
of
those
generators,
but
we
are
looking
at
a
wastewater
treatment
plant,
for
example,
as
being
having
the
ability
to
run
off
bread
through
self-generated
power
and
through
battery
storage.
K
But
that's
something
you
know
that's
one
particular
facility,
but
our
emergency
centers.
Yes,
they
have,
as
I
said
they
have.
These
are
generators.
They
don't
have.
A
couple
of
a
couple
of
the
crpd
ones.
Do
have
solar,
but
as
yet
they
don't
have
batteries.
So
if
you
have
solar
without
batteries,
you
also
you
can't
operate
off
right.
So
those
are
things
that
the
city's
looking
at
and
should
you
know,
continue
to.
B
Does
the
city
have,
as
part
of
its
planning,
an
effort
to
look
into
water
reclamation
recycling
of
wastewater
as
an
alternative
to
having
an
additional
supply?
In
the
event,
we
have
issues
with
the
imported
supply.
That's
currently
available
to
us
in
terms
of
availability,
as
well
as
if
there
is
an
emergency
situation
and
we
don't
have
access
to
it.
K
I
think
that
would
be
a
priority
over
trying
to
recycle
wastewater,
which
also
is
another
potential
that
the
problem
or
one
of
the
one
of
the
problems
about
that
is
that
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
sort
of
at
the
lowest
point
of
the
city.
And
so,
if
you
treat
water
down
there,
you
have
to
get
it
back
uphill
and
distribute
it
around
the
rest
of
the
city.
K
B
B
K
C
I'm
gonna,
thank
you
laura
you.
Actually
that
was
awesome,
because
what
you
just
did
was
the
introduction
to
our
next
meeting
in
in
late
september,
so
I'm
going
to
actually
have
a
since
we're
at
about
10
minutes
left,
and
I
know
that
during
a
lot
of
the
previous
general
plan
advisory
committee
meetings,
particularly
those
in
person,
people
brought
up
public
safety
and
emergency
preparedness.
So
maybe
we
can
go
michael.
A
L
L
They
complicated
issues
because
generally,
we
plan
for
one
event
at
a
time,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
with
climate
change
as
we're
seeing
in
northern
california
right
now
with
lightning
strikes
and
heat
and
wildfires
that
we
can
very
much
expect
that
we
are
going
to
have
multiple
events
happening
simultaneously
with
an
increasing
frequency
going
into
the
future.
So
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
and
plan.
For
that.
L
My
question
I
guess
is:
I
think
that
it
is
absolutely
critical
that
we
plan
for
extreme
heat
and
wildfire
and
drought
and
all
of
those
things
because
they're
interconnected,
and
they
will
all
be
exacerbated
over
time.
Given
our
current
climate
situation-
and
I
want
to,
I
think
there
are
ways
that
we
can
mitigate
a
lot
of
those
effects.
L
C
L
A
C
L
C
A
B
A
B
Okay,
first
I'd
like
to
say
roseanne
is
awesome
and
she
is
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you're
going
to
be
listening
to
her.
Then
I
have
one
one
comment
and
one
question
I
with
covid.
It
is
hard
for
I.
I
know
it's
hard
for
you
guys
to
get
community
involvement
and
engagement,
but
I'm
really
concerned
because
I've
heard
some
folks
that
would
normally
be
involved
in
the
meetings
and
and
anything
that
that's
going
on.
B
B
B
C
C
H
Well,
just
from
a
general
perspective,
that's
part
of
the
whole
planning
process
in
terms
of
any
type
of
multi-family
through
the
fire
department.
It's
all
a
condition
of
planning
beyond
that,
it's
more
of
a
sheriff's
department
and
city
function
in
terms
of
process
and
follow-up,
so
it
is
captured.
I
don't
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
perfect
location
for
general
plan,
but
it
should
certainly
be
referenced.
C
Yeah,
I
I
think,
graham,
I
think
that's
right.
It's
not
the
the
general
plan
should
reference
it
at
a
high
level,
but
there
are
already
there's
already
a
lot
in
place
in
the
california
building
code
and
the
building
safety
code
about
evacuation
and
how
to
get
out
of
buildings,
and
so
that's
relatively
well
covered.
I
think
it
could
be
better,
but
it's
typically
in
the
conditions
of
approval
of
a
specific
project.
C
C
B
A
And
if
I
can,
I
can
just
really
quickly
address
the
other
part
of
your
comments.
Also,
we,
you
know,
we
share
your
concerns
that
you
know
this
is
not
the
most
ideal
way
to
be
engaging
people.
This
is
and-
and
we've
said,
all
along-
you
know
the
gpac
meetings
are
one
way
to
provide
input
on
the
process,
but
certainly
not
the
only
way
to
do
that.
A
So
if
people
have
thoughts
and
ideas
on
on
other
ways
that
we
can
be
engaging
people,
you
know
please
by
all
means
share
those
with
us
and
we're.
Certainly
you
know
open
to
that,
and
hopefully
we'll
you
know
within
a
few
months
here,
we'll
be
back
to
things
a
little
bit
more
normal
and
we'll
be
able
to
get
out
in
the
community
again
and
start
seeing
people
in
person
again
and-
and
you
know
this
process
is-
is
a
long
way
from
over
this.
A
You
know
this
isn't
going
to
be
wrapped
up
in
a
couple
months,
and
then
everyone
will
have
missed
their
opportunity
to
provide
input.
There
will
still
be
plenty
more
opportunities
along
the
way
to
provide
input,
and
there
are
still
many
months
ahead
of
us
in
this
process.
So
we
hope
to
hear
from
everybody
along
the
way.
The
last
speaker
who
had
asked
to
speak
was
gordon
clint.
J
I'm
glad
that
you're
going
to
deal
with
climate
change
more
in
the
september
one
on
sustainability.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
that,
because
adequate
planning
is
essential
for
our
city
to
do
its
part
in
preventing
global
climate
disaster.
We
all
need
to
do
our
part.
Our
planet
and
our
community
are
both
warming
faster
than
anticipated.
J
J
J
The
climate
action
program
must
have
milestones
and
a
leader
with
authority
who
reports
directly
to
the
city
council,
and
I
hope
that
can
be
put
into
the
the
revision
to
the
general
plan.
I
believe
that
the
general
plan
must
call
for
a
city
climate
action
office
with
a
director
who
has
expertise
in
solving
climate
problems
and
a
climate
advisory
committee
composed
of
volunteers
knowledgeable
about
climate
change,
science.
J
The
director
would
then
bring
the
committee's
recommendations
to
the
city
council
for
consideration
and
action,
and
if
we
don't
have
somebody,
that's
really
focused
on
climate,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
our
part,
and
I
think
everybody
really
on
this
planet
has
to
take
this
seriously
and
figure
out
how
each
community
will
do
their
part
of
this
whole
global
problem.
So
I
thank
you.
C
D
Yes,
that
is
right.
Yes,
so
we
have
two
comments
from
the
actual
presentation
themselves.
I'll
read
those
off
now
one
was
thank
you
for
hosting
this
meeting.
The
other
one
was
related
to
preparedness
for
wildfires.
This
person
mentions
that
they
think
some
of
the
evacuation
evacuations
were
parking
lots
rather
than
evacuation
routes,
and
then
we
have
one
comment
for
official
public
comment
which
reads:
reduce
development
and
stop
encroaching
further
into
areas
that
are
susceptible
to
wildfires,
promote
electrification
of
new
buildings
and
retrofitting
of
existing
buildings
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases.
A
J
C
C
This
is
actually
a
personally
a
topic
that
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
so
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it.
We're
going
to
have
helen
and
her
team
helping
to
lead
this
meeting
and
then
a
couple
of
raymond
associate
staff
members
who
are
experts
in
sustainability
prior
to
the
meeting.
I
would
like
everyone
to
spend
a
little
time,
starting
to
think
about
what
sustainability
means
to
you,
because
the
definition
of
sustainability
is
can
be
very
broad,
and
so
what
does
it
mean
to
you?
And
what
does
a
sustainable
thousand
oaks?
Look
like?
C
C
The
the
the
the
thursday
of
november,
where
we're
supposed
to
have
our
meeting,
is
actually
thanksgiving,
and
I
don't
think
people
want
to
have
a
meeting
on
that
day
and
thanks
in
november
and
then
in
early
december,
we'll
come
back
to
the
land
use
alternatives.
We've
we've
partially
put
off
land
use
alternatives,
as
you
know,
so
that
we
can
try
and
not
do
this
meeting
virtually
and,
and
you
know,
fingers
crossed.
We
can
actually
have
an
in-person
meeting.
I'm
you
know
we
were.